June 9, 2022 • 34 mins
From learning to fly, to riding a white horse, to becoming friends with Michael Jordan, Mamaw’s audacious good humor has influenced her adored grandson Will to live with the same dauntless spirit – from starting Mental Floss with his friend Mangesh out of their college dorm room to becoming COO of iHeart’s Podcast Network. Join Rita and Ellin as they welcome our first Southern grandmother to the show with open arms – you’ll come away feeling like you could try anything and succeed.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
My microphone is right here, Rita on either side of
the microphone or two screws. Tighten the screws and the
microphone will face you. Yeah, I'm tightening them up. Now
you can say you were screwed. Listen, Allen, this is
a family show. Who is going to be on our
podcast today? Today we have Will and his mamma. Will
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is the chief operating officer of I Heart Radio podcasts.
Oh my god, we'd better really be good today. We're
working with that boss is okay, we have to be
specially good today, Allen. Listen. Even the boss has a mamma.
Everybody has a mammo, Grandma, Nana, you name it, Bobby, Zada, Nona, right,
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Will mamour poll Duke through again by one point? Date
that North Carolina, so you can burn the bitches. What
a game? I hope you are. It was something else,
but I pulled them through. Okay, tell them my sweet
girl that we wanted by mamma. While we're waiting. How
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did Duke look yesterday? Oh, Duke, they did great. They
did their free throws. They really did great. Now. I
like Georgia cause I went to the University of Georgia,
but I like dude, cause you went to Duke. Yeah,
that's right. So if you want to know about what
Mammo locks, I like those grandkids. Now, your kids are okay,
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but the grandkids now they're just really really special, special special.
It's true. My name is will and I'm joined by Nadine,
more commonly known as Mamma to those of us in
the family or anyone else who knows her. She is
ninety four years old and she lives in Birmingham, Alabama.
I actually don't know the agent because I was the
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baby cousin and the family, so I just knew from
day one that she was mamma. But it is not
an uncommon name for grandmother in the Southeast. Will Oh,
he's just the best. I tell you what. I remember
when he was born, he was cutest little thing and
he's been that way all of his laugh just so cute.
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Energy is the first word that comes to mind, and
it's contagious no matter what you're feeling, like when Mamma
wants to do something, it's impossible to say no. When
I picture Mamma's house, the first thing I imagine is candy.
We each have our favorite candies that she knows she
needs to put out, whether it's peanut Eminem's for one
of my cousins, whether it's yes, the disgusting circus peanuts.
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I will confess I love circus peanuts. I understand that
other people find them disgusting, but Mamma knows that I
like them, and so she always has very stale circus peanuts,
which are when they're at their best, if we're being honest.
She's done this my entire life, and I love it.
I remember when I told him to swim. I thought, now,
you know, he's just really good at this, and he
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got really good and dive off the diving board and
high diving board. I thought, this little boy's gonna do
a lot of things. He's just real sharp. He and
his buddy Mango decided to do a magazine. They got
the magazine and published it. She's talking about mental floss. Yeah,
it was a great magazine. They had a lot of
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fun doing it. Later he went to my Heart Radio,
so I think he hangs out there some. Now. I
think he likes that company's pretty good. Yeah, it is
pretty good, Mamma. Mammo taught him a lot, and Mammo
did modeling and I taught him how to model. That's
a quite so cute, that's quite a good looking. Mamma
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was always a unique grandmother. She was always moving at
a pace faster than all of us. There was always
an energy that to this day puts all of us
to shame. Like I really believe that if you told
her she was going to get out there on the
golf course today with some you know, LPGA professional golfers,
she would see no reason why she couldn't jump out
there and just compete with them, right that, just because
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she believed she could. Well, we never did tell him
about And they're taking you a little dog to school.
Tell him about that, Mamma. When you wanted to do something,
you didn't ask permission, You just did it. He was
in school and I took him a little shepherd dog.
He named it Sports. Fittingly, the dog's name was Sport,
which felt right for a dog from Mama. So I
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was in third grade. I think my parents had no
idea about this. And Mama pulls up to the elementary
school with a Shetland sheep dog and just straight up
walks in the school during the middle of lunch, and
of course all the kids just go wild because here's
this puppy. But that kind of summarized mamma. So you
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didn't tell mama, know, and so we just had a puppy.
After that, I was a very sweet dog. We'll see,
that's what mammals do. Oh, I loved it. I just
was wonderful. Is that adorable? Ninety four? The mind and
the mouths are terrific. And that Southern accent, it just
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gets me. And can you imagine the inspiration she gives
these grandkids. Her energy, her outlook, her free spirit terrific.
I loved everything except that he's a dukie because I
come from three generations of tarts. I know, I know,
But you gotta love her. Even if she went to
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your Shia, Ellen, if she went to Yeshiva University, you
would love her. She's got that kind of a personality.
Read it. You know, she is very very much like
many of the grandmothers that I met when I used
to go down and visit my in laws in North Carolina.
There's something very special about Southern grandmothers. They have no filter.
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There's a Jewish expression bus is often longest, often sung,
and that means what's in your heart on your your
longest on your tongue. That's how these Southern grandmothers are terrific. Listen,
I'm going to be ninety two, and I wish I'll
have our energy if I ever get to ninety four,
If you don't all have to kill you, well, well,
at least finished our grandmother podcast. I promise I will
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be here as long as I can. If I was
a Mammo, I'll be here. What energy and what inspiration?
And it's so cute the way he really enjoys everything.
That love has a sound. It's so sweet. Oh God,
and man that I heard it. What is mental floss?
I heard of it, but I don't know how I
heard of it. Listen, I have a son in law
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a dentist, and my daughter to dental floss. Mental flaws.
That's all I know's dental floss. I don't know anything
about mental flaws. I have nothing to narrow up here.
Oh God. We learned something every day, and if we
can remember it for the next day, we're thinking that
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learning it is one thing, remember learning another. Okay, we're
ready with part one. Most outstanding Lady Pilot. I can't
wait to hear this. This looks like a woman that
can do anything and everything. One of my favorite things
about your ma'm as you've always decided if there was
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something you wanted to do, you just did it. Yeah,
I don't know. I just decided to model, and I
modeled everywhere. Then I decided one flyer planes. So I
took lessons and learned to fly, and then I learned
to Banjoe oh, and I played the piano. All took
lessons and I love singing. And Will has a beautiful voice.
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When he was in school, you sang a solo and
it was really pretty well, thank you. And Penny Rose
has a beautiful voice. She does. Do you have any
favorite songs that you like to sing? One of them
a lot so well, and I did so well. It
was the National Anthem. I can do that one just
about perfect. Yeah, I agree, I've heard you sing it before.
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What made you decide you wanted to go learn how
to fly and be a pilot. I just thought, the
sky is so beautiful up there, and it is when
you get up there flying around. It's so pretty up there,
and I thought, I believe I want to go try
that out. The one that taught me to fly talked
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the Blue angels and thunderbirds, and he was great. He said,
you don't ever have to worry about flying because I
taught you to fly. So my husband Charlie Rose, just
to clarify, we are talking about my grandfather Charlie Rose,
not the Charlie Rose that everyone might have known from television.
He got back and he said, what are you doing.
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I said, I'm learning to fly. What I said, yeah,
it's a lot of fun. Well, I think I'll go
up there to the airport and see what you've checking into.
And he said, you know what, that's the most fun
thing I've ever done in my life. He love flying.
You got pretty good at it, didn't you. Oh yeah.
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We got in the Civil Air Patrol, hunted down to
aircraft it any time day, night, and I got Most
Outstanding Lady Polot for Alabama twice. The one reason is
we found a guy at Late Martin. His plane went
down in the lake and I knew how to find him,
so we found him. So that's how I got Most
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Outstanding Lady Polot. Were you scared the first time you
ever flew? No? No, no, no, I wanted to go fly.
It was great. You just laying that airplane just ship.
It's just great, much of fun. Never scared, you were fearless,
and then you get up there in the sky and
it's so pretty. I know this one instructor said, night,
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and I'm gonna fly with you today. I said, come on, well,
we're gonna do some different turns and spins and stuff.
I said, you're gonna do what I'm gonna do. You're
flying with me, and come on. So we went flying
all around. Next day, I was home fixing my face
to go the airports, and they called me and said
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that that instructor died that day. He was in with
the student and the student crossed the plane and killed him.
Now that's tragic. Did that make you scared to fly anymore? No? No, no, no, no,
no no, it's just an accident that happened. Yeah. She
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is amazing, amazing, amazing, the mind, the energy. Me. I
get on a commercial plane and I'm hold in the sides,
and then she becomes a pilot with no fear, with
such confidence. I thought I was terrific because I could
drive a stick shift. I'm calling Jeff Bezos and he's
got the astronaut that goes into the sky. She's got
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to be one of his passengers. She's unbelievable. She is terrific,
and she should have there's an expression till a hundred
and twenty right. My mother used to say that's right,
and that southern accent that gets me all the way.
It's just so infectious. It's really cute. I think that
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men who are married to women like that sort of
go along with the flow, and it sort of gives
them permission to do these things. She's the kind of
a woman it doesn't matter if her husband agreed or disagree.
She's gonna do what she's gonna do no matter what.
If he didn't like it, he wouldn't fly. But she's infectious.
She brings all these things into a person's life and
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you go along with it. I mean, see how the
woman lives. She's doing something right, that's for sure. She's very,
very tough. Absolutely, we have to thank Will for letting
us listen to him and his relationship with Mamoir. It's
really special. It's very special, made my day. Gotta be
one of my favorites. We have to take a break
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now because I'm getting a permanent dent in my head
from these headphones. I feel like my heart Radio should
pay for us to go to the beauty Paula after
having these headphones on all day. It's worth it. Anything
is worth it for our care. Your Grandmother Podcast. I'm
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back and my dentist fixed. But now I'm putting the
headphones on again. Annie. Here we go again with a
brand new dent Part two. Lingerie for Doctors, Ellen, This
sounds intriguing somehow. I have a feeling that she does
mind a life of linger or something. She does everything else.
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She could be doing that too, who knows, Maybe she's
starting med school. It could be. Mamma, you always dressed
so well, and all of my friends in high school
would always comment on it because you'd always have some
sort of leather or something like that on that looked
really good, and they called you leather Mamma. Do you
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remember this. I started to wear a leather jacket today.
That's so pretty, Saint John. Yeah, you've always liked getting
dressed up and being very fashionable. Have you been like
that your whole life? We'll see. That's how I got
into modeling, because I act it soil. I love shorts shorts.
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Somebody sus modeled Lingerie for Doctors. The doctors wanted to
just say the outfits for the women in a model
lingerie for um, that was fun. Where you at the
doctor's office for this, No, the doctors came to a
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place in Coleman. Oh. We had All Steak there that
was famous and they had a big place upstairs, sort
of like a doctor's convention or something. So the doctors
came to the restaurant to watch the model and got it.
You remember the All Steak restaurant, of course I do.
They're famous for their orange rolls. It was much fun.
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I'm a member of the International ninety nine Lady Pilots
and I modeled bathing suits for the International ninety nine
convention for the ladies. What do you like about modeling?
And what do you think makes you good at it?
It was just fun. They'd just say, give her the runway.
She don't even need any instructions. I just liked the model. Well,
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how did you get into it? At first? Just people
ask me to model because they thought I'll do soil
on it. He knows how to model. She's just saying
that he's mom and good. You watch him walk, he's good.
I didn't know that my fancy walk came from you, Mamma,
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I should have done that all along. That is so,
this woman is a piece of work. She is absolutely
the most adorable. I would love to be her friend.
What kind of doctors that most that go to see
laundry rate kind of weird? I don't know if I
would go to that kind of adopt It frightens me
a little bit of such busy doctors they got time
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to go see a woman modeling laundry, don't know. Let's
put it this way. If that restaurant was exactly kosher,
I don't know. I don't know, but I would love
to see her today. I bet you she's stunning. Don't
you love to go to lunch with her? Areta? Absolutely,
We're going to have to speak to Will and have
her come to New York City and we all have
to go down to visit with her. What else can
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we expect from her? I think that she is a
woman of many parts and that we are going to
be surprised over and over and over again. Right, we're
only up to part three, and we're shocked. Part three
the white horse Ellen guaranteed she's an equestrian of a
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white horse. So far, she's flown a plane, and she's modeled,
and she brought a dog to school. So I don't
know where that horse was. That horse is coming into
the picture. Listen. For all we know, she was in
the Olympics with the horse show. You never know. I
don't know what to expect from what we're going to see.
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We've always talked about how you believed you could do
anything and had a positive outlook on life. Where do
you think that came from. I was born in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
Then my mother and dad is separated, so I was
with my grandparents. And Grandma was a lot like this
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Laura Bell book out. She went to New York and
took piano lessons, and she loved the Bible. She read
that Bible through and through and through and through. She
was great. She was a real funny person. Yeah, and
Grandpa's book out was a lot like that. He had
a lot of land and we had a grocery store,
of filling station, and amusement park. We had a little
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motel too. Yeah. We even had races there and had
entertainers to come into the place and sing, dance or what.
And that's where I grew up. Now, did you work there.
Oh sure. I worked in the grocery store and go
fill up the car and old fashion store and station. Yeah,
that's pretty neat. That's a long time ago. I remember
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you telling me about the property there, about you having
a white horse horse. Yeah, I liked that horse a lot.
I came down the highway on that horse riding it.
But I was in a hurry going down the highway
and his big old bus coming by, and I gave
him a little kick and he threw me off. Well.
I had two brothers, one of them was Jim. Jim
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said that she's dead. Well, I wasn't dead. I didn't die,
but I was upset with that horse. Yeah. Did you
ride it again after that? Of course I did. So.
You talked about Charlie Rose, who was my grandfather. We
called him Papa. What was it that made you like
him so much? He was one of the finest people
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that you'll ever meet. In fact, Will is a lot
like him, and so is his daddy. And he was
just a fine person, real intelligent person. Everybody loved Charlie Rose.
He died in nineteen ninety. With Harry set Loukima, we
went to Lahoya, California, and they said they cured it,
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but we got home in seven days later he was dead. So, yeah,
that's not very good thing to catch. Yeah, it was
a tough time for sure. Papa was kind of a
larger than life figure in all of our lives. It
was definitely a period of shock and of course great sadness,
but also a thankfulness for everything that we've got into
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experience with Papa. Do you remember when you first started
going on dates with him? What was that like? He
went to school at Georgia and he came to my
school to teach and to coach the basketball team, and
I was on the basketball team. Well, my granddaddy says,
I don't know about that little guy that's coming to
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see you. I don't know about that guy. His daddy
gave him a brand new little car, and he came
flying in that little car, and Grandpa thought, well, he's
a pretty little thing, you know, come flewing in there,
brand new car and young guy out of college. I
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get it. He probably just didn't quite trust him at first.
Did he end up liking him? How did Papa win
him over? Oh? Yeah, he locked him after a while.
He was always the funniest person, just real fun Papa
had a habit of because they lived out in the country,
he just decided when he got home he would wear
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nothing but his underwear. And so he just whether he
was outside, inside wherever, so people would pull up the
visit and there he would be in his underwear. And
so I decided I would do the same thing, and
so we just played outside doing that and just had
a blast. Papa is pretty cute. He was hilarious. We
just fell in love and really had a good time
together all the years we were together. Oh what a
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nice background will is coming from. It's a real love story.
From beginning to end, this has been a love story.
And could you just see him walking outside in his underwear?
I mean, what a nice heritage he has. I was
thinking the same thing. I think this is a wonderful family. Really,
they live, they savor their lives and everything. Could you
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see her with the white horse running down? It reminds
me here of that movie with Sander Bullock riding away
on a horse. Every time she'd ride away and a
horse to get married. That was the Runaway Bride or
something exactly. But so I could just see Memo on
this white horse running away. Oh my god, you're so special. Well,
she's much older than you. I'm not riding a horse,
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and I'm not flying in a plane, that's for sure.
If I go on the M four bus on Broadway,
that's the adventurous as I'm getting. Or in an Oba,
my white horse is called ober and mine is called Excess.
That's right. After the horse threw her off, she got
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back on the horse. Well, I think that that's the
story of her life. That's right. But she always got
back on the horse. You get back on the white horse.
That's a good thing. Get back on the white horse.
That's my new motto. Hard four banana pudding for Michael Jordan's.
Do you think she cooked banana pudding for Michael Jordan's unbelievable.
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Maybe she decided she wanted to bring him something to
fatten him up. Probably when he was at Carolina Ellen.
She could fly a plane to heavy he was give
him the banana pudding. Anything, It's possible. With Mamla. None
of us were allowed to grow up without learning how
to swim. Why was that so important to you? I
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learned to swim in a creek with my brothers, and
then later I was a certified swimming struke or not.
Taught everybody to swim, never did charge anybody a penny,
but just wanted everybody to swim. You've kept swimming your
whole life. You participated in the Senior Olympics. Oh, I
want seven eight of those for the state. Do you
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think it helped you, Mama, with the guys that you
were so interested in sports? Probably so, because I was
pretty good at it. But girls like sports too. You've
always taught us that. When I was a kid, our
minor league baseball team here it's called the Birmingham Barons,
and you were one of their biggest fans. I know it.
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I fixed ice cream in banana, putting everything for those Barons,
and they loved it. I remember when Michael Jordans came. Yeah,
this was in his two year break from playing basketball. Yeah. Yeah,
So the Chicago White Sox have a minor league team
in Birmingham, and so he came to play for the
Birmingham Barons, and that is, of course Mamma's team. And
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I liked Michael a lot. I made his children, and
Michael and I were pretty good buddies. It was funny
because Michael Jordan would pull up and have a parking
space that I'm not kidding was a few spaces down
from Mamma's. And then you just see them talking as
he was walking into the stadium. She'd be there early
because she'd be preparing some of the meals before the game,
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and it was pretty cute, this tiny older lady with Michael,
and I really do believe that he would probably remember
Mamma even this many years later. His wife and children
was NiFe. Did come into the stadium with me, and
so I sent him some stuff when he went to
another place, and he really thanked me. In fact, the
newspapers in the magazines came to talk to me about him,
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speaking of which I don't know if you remember this, Mamma,
but when you were at a Baron's game one time,
they had a contest to see who could bark the
loudest to win some free dog food. You won the
dog food. But the best part about it was you
didn't have a dog at that point, and so you
came home with all this dog food. I don't know
what I did was so the only team I can
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think of you liking more than the Barons would be
Duke Basketball. Oh, I like them, and coach k is
so nice. In fact, I'd send some instructions to the
daughter to tell the team how to play, and she said,
Coach Kate, listen to everything. I said, what was some
of your advice to them? Well, I just tell him
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to practice. When I sang solos, my instructors told me
to practice, practice, practice, and wait a minute, you practice
some more. You will never make a mistake. You'll do
it perfect. So I told the team that practice those
free throws and then you will do great. You can
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lose your game on those free throws. I think it
was maybe last year he called and wished me happy
birthday on my birthday. Coach Kate did, he did. I
thought that was pretty neat, Mamma. It's coach k Happy
nine three birthday, Holy Mackrow, Happy birthday. Mamma's approach to
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celebrities is the same as it would be with anyone
like it's a fearlessness and I love this. We should
all be like this. She's a larger than life character
and so when you meet her you can't help but
want to chat with her. We were at a charity
event one time and Charles Barkley was there across the
room and Mamma decided she wanted to go meet Charles Barkley,
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and we thought, well, Mama, he's very busy. There's a
lot of people over there talking to him. Let's see
if we can make that happen later. And I swear
it was like we turned our backs. She's across the room,
in front of the line of everybody else, arms literally
around his neck. This man is, you know, probably six
ft seven. He's a tall guy, and she's not. She's
probably five three five four, and she has her arms
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wrapped around his neck. He's leaning over there, basically face
to face. That's just always been the way she worked.
Oh my goodness, everything she does there's an expression he
failed from. He gets joy of seeing how do these
things that are so unusual? He appreciates it. Can you
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imagine she's telling coach k practice practice. She's an influence
on whoever she meets. How many kids could say my
grandmother made a banana putting for Michael Jordan's all right,
I'm taking off the headphones. I have to fix my
hair because I'm going to walk my dog and maybe
i'll meet a neighbor. Read it's a look. It's definitely
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a look. We're back, doggies walked, We're ready to go,
and another dent and now we have come to the
last part, Part five. Just do it. Oh, I'm so sorry.
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This is the list part. I could go on with
her forever, but let's just do it. Ellen, there was
something I was thinking about that was a little bit
unrelated to all of this. So you remarried. You remarried
a man named Jim, one of my favorite people. If
you remember, at Christmas one year, you gave Jim a
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very special gift that was in a frame and all
the grandkids were there when you gave Jim this special portrait.
Do you remember this? I'll have one in the bathroom
now and it is a real nice portrait. It is nice.
When she and my mom were at a museum, there
was a nude and she thought this was so interesting,
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and she asked my mom if my mom thought nudes
were appropriate. This was when my grandmother was in her seventies,
and so my mom says, yes, that's appropriate, of course,
thinking about like an artist. So fast forward to Christmas
Eve and we're all sitting around opening gifts and everything,
and she hands this gift to Jim and Jim opens
it up and his face turns beat red, and we're like, Jim,
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show us what it is. And Jim just looks at us.
He's like no, and we were like, Jim, come on,
and he shakes his head again and Jim turn it
around and show us, and so he finally turns it
and it is a nude portrait of my grandmother holding
a son hat over her breast. Can you describe it?
What is it like? It's just a picture of me
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with a black thing across it and shows your arms
and all. This is real, pretty picture. Let's show it
to you when you go home. Yeah, I know I
remember it, but just think what would I like to
do tomorrow. Hey, let's go do it. I don't care
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if it's raining, snow and sleet, and let's go do
it anyhow. Don't let little things bother you like that,
Just do what you want to do. I do think
a lot of that inspiration played into the way that
her grandkids have all tried to live our lives, whether
people starting a company, whether in the case of Mangush
and me starting Mental Floss and feeling like there's no
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reason we shouldn't go try to do this, even if
we have no experience in starting a media company, even
if we're college kids. Just do whatever you want to do,
as long as you're not hurting anybody. Just God help you.
We're not smart enough to know what all to do,
so Wendy's some help. Thank you, Mama. I'll see some
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money here. I guess that's for you. Maybe that's your
payment for doing this podcast. Mama, i'd say put it
in your pocket while nobody's looking. So. I love you
so much and I'm so glad you were willing to
spend some time with us today. Well, I sure enjoy
being with you all, I really do. Thank you, ma'ma.
I'm gonna come upstairs. This is fun. It's a lot
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of fun. This was a gift. I have chance in
my eyes. I think that this young man has the
most glorious memories of this woman who obviously has shaped
his life in a lot of ways. You know. It
reminds me, not not that I'm ever ever going to
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compare myself to her, but the one thing I always
try to say is don't say no. Whatever life has
to offer, take advantage of it, because that time may
never come around again. And that's why they're all successful
I mean, if you follow whole way, just do it,
have confidence as yourself and if you want to swim,
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practice play bullpractice and you know what, and put that attitude.
You never saw a rejection. You can't reject a person
like that. There's such a love and enjoy in her way.
If she's living, you have to accept it, and that's
why everybody loves her. Just listening to it with such
a happy time. I'm hoping he'll keep this podcast is
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going to be a treasure for him. And you know what,
it's going to be a treasure for me when I
feel down in the dump. Life is here to live,
and she certainly has lived an unbelievable, beautiful life to
the fullest. Don't you have nude pictures in the bathroom?
Not of me? I have a little nude picture that
says bath on it, because if I didn't have that picture,
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that would be paying on my clothes in the closet.
But read it's not, you know, my picture of nudity.
You would never get to see. I don't even look
in the mirror. When I was young, I was okay,
but now you know, pardon me, the boobs are hanging
ninety two nothing is perking. I just don't look. You
just don't look in the mirror that room. I don't
look anymore. I only have a mirror that shows from
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the facetop. That's me when I put my makeup on,
and that's it. So hey, Mama. There's the Big Awards
every year, and this podcast called Call Your Grandmother was
nominated as one of the best podcasts. Isn't that neat?
Who was? This show that You're on right now was
nominated as one of the best shows. Oh I lock
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that Call Your Grandmother is a production of I Heart
Podcast Network and Superb Entertainment. Our lead producers are Shina
Ozaki and Nora cb. Executive producers are Narrow Poster, Nikki Echo,
and Anna Stump. Managing producer is Lindsay Hoffman. Mastering by
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Bahed Frasier. A theme song is by Anna Stump and
Hamilton's Lighthouser. What else do you like to watch? Or reader?
Those kinds of things a lot? Some of the Hallmark
movies are good, they're best, the best ones. I think
that they took them off the station for a while
and I had a fit about it, so they put
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them back on, so they're on all the time. Now,
what did you do to get them back on? I
called them, I call the stations, and I said, you're
gonna lose a lot of people if you don't put
those back on. So listen to call your grandmother on
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five star reviews
My microphone is right here, Rita on either side of
the microphone or two screws. Tighten the screws and the
microphone will face you. Yeah, I'm tightening them up. Now
you can say you were screwed. Listen, Allen, this is
a family show. Who is going to be on our
podcast today? Today we have Will and his mamma. Will
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is the chief operating officer of I Heart Radio podcasts.
Oh my god, we'd better really be good today. We're
working with that boss is okay, we have to be
specially good today, Allen. Listen. Even the boss has a mamma.
Everybody has a mammo, Grandma, Nana, you name it, Bobby, Zada, Nona, right,
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Will mamour poll Duke through again by one point? Date
that North Carolina, so you can burn the bitches. What
a game? I hope you are. It was something else,
but I pulled them through. Okay, tell them my sweet
girl that we wanted by mamma. While we're waiting. How
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did Duke look yesterday? Oh, Duke, they did great. They
did their free throws. They really did great. Now. I
like Georgia cause I went to the University of Georgia,
but I like dude, cause you went to Duke. Yeah,
that's right. So if you want to know about what
Mammo locks, I like those grandkids. Now, your kids are okay,
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but the grandkids now they're just really really special, special special.
It's true. My name is will and I'm joined by Nadine,
more commonly known as Mamma to those of us in
the family or anyone else who knows her. She is
ninety four years old and she lives in Birmingham, Alabama.
I actually don't know the agent because I was the
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baby cousin and the family, so I just knew from
day one that she was mamma. But it is not
an uncommon name for grandmother in the Southeast. Will Oh,
he's just the best. I tell you what. I remember
when he was born, he was cutest little thing and
he's been that way all of his laugh just so cute.
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Energy is the first word that comes to mind, and
it's contagious no matter what you're feeling, like when Mamma
wants to do something, it's impossible to say no. When
I picture Mamma's house, the first thing I imagine is candy.
We each have our favorite candies that she knows she
needs to put out, whether it's peanut Eminem's for one
of my cousins, whether it's yes, the disgusting circus peanuts.
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I will confess I love circus peanuts. I understand that
other people find them disgusting, but Mamma knows that I
like them, and so she always has very stale circus peanuts,
which are when they're at their best, if we're being honest.
She's done this my entire life, and I love it.
I remember when I told him to swim. I thought, now,
you know, he's just really good at this, and he
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got really good and dive off the diving board and
high diving board. I thought, this little boy's gonna do
a lot of things. He's just real sharp. He and
his buddy Mango decided to do a magazine. They got
the magazine and published it. She's talking about mental floss. Yeah,
it was a great magazine. They had a lot of
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fun doing it. Later he went to my Heart Radio,
so I think he hangs out there some. Now. I
think he likes that company's pretty good. Yeah, it is
pretty good, Mamma. Mammo taught him a lot, and Mammo
did modeling and I taught him how to model. That's
a quite so cute, that's quite a good looking. Mamma
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was always a unique grandmother. She was always moving at
a pace faster than all of us. There was always
an energy that to this day puts all of us
to shame. Like I really believe that if you told
her she was going to get out there on the
golf course today with some you know, LPGA professional golfers,
she would see no reason why she couldn't jump out
there and just compete with them, right that, just because
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she believed she could. Well, we never did tell him
about And they're taking you a little dog to school.
Tell him about that, Mamma. When you wanted to do something,
you didn't ask permission, You just did it. He was
in school and I took him a little shepherd dog.
He named it Sports. Fittingly, the dog's name was Sport,
which felt right for a dog from Mama. So I
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was in third grade. I think my parents had no
idea about this. And Mama pulls up to the elementary
school with a Shetland sheep dog and just straight up
walks in the school during the middle of lunch, and
of course all the kids just go wild because here's
this puppy. But that kind of summarized mamma. So you
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didn't tell mama, know, and so we just had a puppy.
After that, I was a very sweet dog. We'll see,
that's what mammals do. Oh, I loved it. I just
was wonderful. Is that adorable? Ninety four? The mind and
the mouths are terrific. And that Southern accent, it just
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gets me. And can you imagine the inspiration she gives
these grandkids. Her energy, her outlook, her free spirit terrific.
I loved everything except that he's a dukie because I
come from three generations of tarts. I know, I know,
But you gotta love her. Even if she went to
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your Shia, Ellen, if she went to Yeshiva University, you
would love her. She's got that kind of a personality.
Read it. You know, she is very very much like
many of the grandmothers that I met when I used
to go down and visit my in laws in North Carolina.
There's something very special about Southern grandmothers. They have no filter.
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There's a Jewish expression bus is often longest, often sung,
and that means what's in your heart on your your
longest on your tongue. That's how these Southern grandmothers are terrific. Listen,
I'm going to be ninety two, and I wish I'll
have our energy if I ever get to ninety four,
If you don't all have to kill you, well, well,
at least finished our grandmother podcast. I promise I will
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be here as long as I can. If I was
a Mammo, I'll be here. What energy and what inspiration?
And it's so cute the way he really enjoys everything.
That love has a sound. It's so sweet. Oh God,
and man that I heard it. What is mental floss?
I heard of it, but I don't know how I
heard of it. Listen, I have a son in law
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a dentist, and my daughter to dental floss. Mental flaws.
That's all I know's dental floss. I don't know anything
about mental flaws. I have nothing to narrow up here.
Oh God. We learned something every day, and if we
can remember it for the next day, we're thinking that
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learning it is one thing, remember learning another. Okay, we're
ready with part one. Most outstanding Lady Pilot. I can't
wait to hear this. This looks like a woman that
can do anything and everything. One of my favorite things
about your ma'm as you've always decided if there was
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something you wanted to do, you just did it. Yeah,
I don't know. I just decided to model, and I
modeled everywhere. Then I decided one flyer planes. So I
took lessons and learned to fly, and then I learned
to Banjoe oh, and I played the piano. All took
lessons and I love singing. And Will has a beautiful voice.
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When he was in school, you sang a solo and
it was really pretty well, thank you. And Penny Rose
has a beautiful voice. She does. Do you have any
favorite songs that you like to sing? One of them
a lot so well, and I did so well. It
was the National Anthem. I can do that one just
about perfect. Yeah, I agree, I've heard you sing it before.
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What made you decide you wanted to go learn how
to fly and be a pilot. I just thought, the
sky is so beautiful up there, and it is when
you get up there flying around. It's so pretty up there,
and I thought, I believe I want to go try
that out. The one that taught me to fly talked
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the Blue angels and thunderbirds, and he was great. He said,
you don't ever have to worry about flying because I
taught you to fly. So my husband Charlie Rose, just
to clarify, we are talking about my grandfather Charlie Rose,
not the Charlie Rose that everyone might have known from television.
He got back and he said, what are you doing.
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I said, I'm learning to fly. What I said, yeah,
it's a lot of fun. Well, I think I'll go
up there to the airport and see what you've checking into.
And he said, you know what, that's the most fun
thing I've ever done in my life. He love flying.
You got pretty good at it, didn't you. Oh yeah.
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We got in the Civil Air Patrol, hunted down to
aircraft it any time day, night, and I got Most
Outstanding Lady Polot for Alabama twice. The one reason is
we found a guy at Late Martin. His plane went
down in the lake and I knew how to find him,
so we found him. So that's how I got Most
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Outstanding Lady Polot. Were you scared the first time you
ever flew? No? No, no, no, I wanted to go fly.
It was great. You just laying that airplane just ship.
It's just great, much of fun. Never scared, you were fearless,
and then you get up there in the sky and
it's so pretty. I know this one instructor said, night,
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and I'm gonna fly with you today. I said, come on, well,
we're gonna do some different turns and spins and stuff.
I said, you're gonna do what I'm gonna do. You're
flying with me, and come on. So we went flying
all around. Next day, I was home fixing my face
to go the airports, and they called me and said
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that that instructor died that day. He was in with
the student and the student crossed the plane and killed him.
Now that's tragic. Did that make you scared to fly anymore? No? No, no, no, no,
no no, it's just an accident that happened. Yeah. She
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is amazing, amazing, amazing, the mind, the energy. Me. I
get on a commercial plane and I'm hold in the sides,
and then she becomes a pilot with no fear, with
such confidence. I thought I was terrific because I could
drive a stick shift. I'm calling Jeff Bezos and he's
got the astronaut that goes into the sky. She's got
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to be one of his passengers. She's unbelievable. She is terrific,
and she should have there's an expression till a hundred
and twenty right. My mother used to say that's right,
and that southern accent that gets me all the way.
It's just so infectious. It's really cute. I think that
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men who are married to women like that sort of
go along with the flow, and it sort of gives
them permission to do these things. She's the kind of
a woman it doesn't matter if her husband agreed or disagree.
She's gonna do what she's gonna do no matter what.
If he didn't like it, he wouldn't fly. But she's infectious.
She brings all these things into a person's life and
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you go along with it. I mean, see how the
woman lives. She's doing something right, that's for sure. She's very,
very tough. Absolutely, we have to thank Will for letting
us listen to him and his relationship with Mamoir. It's
really special. It's very special, made my day. Gotta be
one of my favorites. We have to take a break
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now because I'm getting a permanent dent in my head
from these headphones. I feel like my heart Radio should
pay for us to go to the beauty Paula after
having these headphones on all day. It's worth it. Anything
is worth it for our care. Your Grandmother Podcast. I'm
(12:43):
back and my dentist fixed. But now I'm putting the
headphones on again. Annie. Here we go again with a
brand new dent Part two. Lingerie for Doctors, Ellen, This
sounds intriguing somehow. I have a feeling that she does
mind a life of linger or something. She does everything else.
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She could be doing that too, who knows, Maybe she's
starting med school. It could be. Mamma, you always dressed
so well, and all of my friends in high school
would always comment on it because you'd always have some
sort of leather or something like that on that looked
really good, and they called you leather Mamma. Do you
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remember this. I started to wear a leather jacket today.
That's so pretty, Saint John. Yeah, you've always liked getting
dressed up and being very fashionable. Have you been like
that your whole life? We'll see. That's how I got
into modeling, because I act it soil. I love shorts shorts.
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Somebody sus modeled Lingerie for Doctors. The doctors wanted to
just say the outfits for the women in a model
lingerie for um, that was fun. Where you at the
doctor's office for this, No, the doctors came to a
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place in Coleman. Oh. We had All Steak there that
was famous and they had a big place upstairs, sort
of like a doctor's convention or something. So the doctors
came to the restaurant to watch the model and got it.
You remember the All Steak restaurant, of course I do.
They're famous for their orange rolls. It was much fun.
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I'm a member of the International ninety nine Lady Pilots
and I modeled bathing suits for the International ninety nine
convention for the ladies. What do you like about modeling?
And what do you think makes you good at it?
It was just fun. They'd just say, give her the runway.
She don't even need any instructions. I just liked the model. Well,
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how did you get into it? At first? Just people
ask me to model because they thought I'll do soil
on it. He knows how to model. She's just saying
that he's mom and good. You watch him walk, he's good.
I didn't know that my fancy walk came from you, Mamma,
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I should have done that all along. That is so,
this woman is a piece of work. She is absolutely
the most adorable. I would love to be her friend.
What kind of doctors that most that go to see
laundry rate kind of weird? I don't know if I
would go to that kind of adopt It frightens me
a little bit of such busy doctors they got time
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to go see a woman modeling laundry, don't know. Let's
put it this way. If that restaurant was exactly kosher,
I don't know. I don't know, but I would love
to see her today. I bet you she's stunning. Don't
you love to go to lunch with her? Areta? Absolutely,
We're going to have to speak to Will and have
her come to New York City and we all have
to go down to visit with her. What else can
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we expect from her? I think that she is a
woman of many parts and that we are going to
be surprised over and over and over again. Right, we're
only up to part three, and we're shocked. Part three
the white horse Ellen guaranteed she's an equestrian of a
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white horse. So far, she's flown a plane, and she's modeled,
and she brought a dog to school. So I don't
know where that horse was. That horse is coming into
the picture. Listen. For all we know, she was in
the Olympics with the horse show. You never know. I
don't know what to expect from what we're going to see.
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We've always talked about how you believed you could do
anything and had a positive outlook on life. Where do
you think that came from. I was born in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
Then my mother and dad is separated, so I was
with my grandparents. And Grandma was a lot like this
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Laura Bell book out. She went to New York and
took piano lessons, and she loved the Bible. She read
that Bible through and through and through and through. She
was great. She was a real funny person. Yeah, and
Grandpa's book out was a lot like that. He had
a lot of land and we had a grocery store,
of filling station, and amusement park. We had a little
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motel too. Yeah. We even had races there and had
entertainers to come into the place and sing, dance or what.
And that's where I grew up. Now, did you work there.
Oh sure. I worked in the grocery store and go
fill up the car and old fashion store and station. Yeah,
that's pretty neat. That's a long time ago. I remember
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you telling me about the property there, about you having
a white horse horse. Yeah, I liked that horse a lot.
I came down the highway on that horse riding it.
But I was in a hurry going down the highway
and his big old bus coming by, and I gave
him a little kick and he threw me off. Well.
I had two brothers, one of them was Jim. Jim
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said that she's dead. Well, I wasn't dead. I didn't die,
but I was upset with that horse. Yeah. Did you
ride it again after that? Of course I did. So.
You talked about Charlie Rose, who was my grandfather. We
called him Papa. What was it that made you like
him so much? He was one of the finest people
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that you'll ever meet. In fact, Will is a lot
like him, and so is his daddy. And he was
just a fine person, real intelligent person. Everybody loved Charlie Rose.
He died in nineteen ninety. With Harry set Loukima, we
went to Lahoya, California, and they said they cured it,
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but we got home in seven days later he was dead. So, yeah,
that's not very good thing to catch. Yeah, it was
a tough time for sure. Papa was kind of a
larger than life figure in all of our lives. It
was definitely a period of shock and of course great sadness,
but also a thankfulness for everything that we've got into
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experience with Papa. Do you remember when you first started
going on dates with him? What was that like? He
went to school at Georgia and he came to my
school to teach and to coach the basketball team, and
I was on the basketball team. Well, my granddaddy says,
I don't know about that little guy that's coming to
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see you. I don't know about that guy. His daddy
gave him a brand new little car, and he came
flying in that little car, and Grandpa thought, well, he's
a pretty little thing, you know, come flewing in there,
brand new car and young guy out of college. I
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get it. He probably just didn't quite trust him at first.
Did he end up liking him? How did Papa win
him over? Oh? Yeah, he locked him after a while.
He was always the funniest person, just real fun Papa
had a habit of because they lived out in the country,
he just decided when he got home he would wear
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nothing but his underwear. And so he just whether he
was outside, inside wherever, so people would pull up the
visit and there he would be in his underwear. And
so I decided I would do the same thing, and
so we just played outside doing that and just had
a blast. Papa is pretty cute. He was hilarious. We
just fell in love and really had a good time
together all the years we were together. Oh what a
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nice background will is coming from. It's a real love story.
From beginning to end, this has been a love story.
And could you just see him walking outside in his underwear?
I mean, what a nice heritage he has. I was
thinking the same thing. I think this is a wonderful family. Really,
they live, they savor their lives and everything. Could you
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see her with the white horse running down? It reminds
me here of that movie with Sander Bullock riding away
on a horse. Every time she'd ride away and a
horse to get married. That was the Runaway Bride or
something exactly. But so I could just see Memo on
this white horse running away. Oh my god, you're so special. Well,
she's much older than you. I'm not riding a horse,
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and I'm not flying in a plane, that's for sure.
If I go on the M four bus on Broadway,
that's the adventurous as I'm getting. Or in an Oba,
my white horse is called ober and mine is called Excess.
That's right. After the horse threw her off, she got
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back on the horse. Well, I think that that's the
story of her life. That's right. But she always got
back on the horse. You get back on the white horse.
That's a good thing. Get back on the white horse.
That's my new motto. Hard four banana pudding for Michael Jordan's.
Do you think she cooked banana pudding for Michael Jordan's unbelievable.
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Maybe she decided she wanted to bring him something to
fatten him up. Probably when he was at Carolina Ellen.
She could fly a plane to heavy he was give
him the banana pudding. Anything, It's possible. With Mamla. None
of us were allowed to grow up without learning how
to swim. Why was that so important to you? I
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learned to swim in a creek with my brothers, and
then later I was a certified swimming struke or not.
Taught everybody to swim, never did charge anybody a penny,
but just wanted everybody to swim. You've kept swimming your
whole life. You participated in the Senior Olympics. Oh, I
want seven eight of those for the state. Do you
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think it helped you, Mama, with the guys that you
were so interested in sports? Probably so, because I was
pretty good at it. But girls like sports too. You've
always taught us that. When I was a kid, our
minor league baseball team here it's called the Birmingham Barons,
and you were one of their biggest fans. I know it.
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I fixed ice cream in banana, putting everything for those Barons,
and they loved it. I remember when Michael Jordans came. Yeah,
this was in his two year break from playing basketball. Yeah. Yeah,
So the Chicago White Sox have a minor league team
in Birmingham, and so he came to play for the
Birmingham Barons, and that is, of course Mamma's team. And
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I liked Michael a lot. I made his children, and
Michael and I were pretty good buddies. It was funny
because Michael Jordan would pull up and have a parking
space that I'm not kidding was a few spaces down
from Mamma's. And then you just see them talking as
he was walking into the stadium. She'd be there early
because she'd be preparing some of the meals before the game,
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and it was pretty cute, this tiny older lady with Michael,
and I really do believe that he would probably remember
Mamma even this many years later. His wife and children
was NiFe. Did come into the stadium with me, and
so I sent him some stuff when he went to
another place, and he really thanked me. In fact, the
newspapers in the magazines came to talk to me about him,
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speaking of which I don't know if you remember this, Mamma,
but when you were at a Baron's game one time,
they had a contest to see who could bark the
loudest to win some free dog food. You won the
dog food. But the best part about it was you
didn't have a dog at that point, and so you
came home with all this dog food. I don't know
what I did was so the only team I can
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think of you liking more than the Barons would be
Duke Basketball. Oh, I like them, and coach k is
so nice. In fact, I'd send some instructions to the
daughter to tell the team how to play, and she said,
Coach Kate, listen to everything. I said, what was some
of your advice to them? Well, I just tell him
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to practice. When I sang solos, my instructors told me
to practice, practice, practice, and wait a minute, you practice
some more. You will never make a mistake. You'll do
it perfect. So I told the team that practice those
free throws and then you will do great. You can
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lose your game on those free throws. I think it
was maybe last year he called and wished me happy
birthday on my birthday. Coach Kate did, he did. I
thought that was pretty neat, Mamma. It's coach k Happy
nine three birthday, Holy Mackrow, Happy birthday. Mamma's approach to
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celebrities is the same as it would be with anyone
like it's a fearlessness and I love this. We should
all be like this. She's a larger than life character
and so when you meet her you can't help but
want to chat with her. We were at a charity
event one time and Charles Barkley was there across the
room and Mamma decided she wanted to go meet Charles Barkley,
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and we thought, well, Mama, he's very busy. There's a
lot of people over there talking to him. Let's see
if we can make that happen later. And I swear
it was like we turned our backs. She's across the room,
in front of the line of everybody else, arms literally
around his neck. This man is, you know, probably six
ft seven. He's a tall guy, and she's not. She's
probably five three five four, and she has her arms
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wrapped around his neck. He's leaning over there, basically face
to face. That's just always been the way she worked.
Oh my goodness, everything she does there's an expression he
failed from. He gets joy of seeing how do these
things that are so unusual? He appreciates it. Can you
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imagine she's telling coach k practice practice. She's an influence
on whoever she meets. How many kids could say my
grandmother made a banana putting for Michael Jordan's all right,
I'm taking off the headphones. I have to fix my
hair because I'm going to walk my dog and maybe
i'll meet a neighbor. Read it's a look. It's definitely
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a look. We're back, doggies walked, We're ready to go,
and another dent and now we have come to the
last part, Part five. Just do it. Oh, I'm so sorry.
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This is the list part. I could go on with
her forever, but let's just do it. Ellen, there was
something I was thinking about that was a little bit
unrelated to all of this. So you remarried. You remarried
a man named Jim, one of my favorite people. If
you remember, at Christmas one year, you gave Jim a
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very special gift that was in a frame and all
the grandkids were there when you gave Jim this special portrait.
Do you remember this? I'll have one in the bathroom
now and it is a real nice portrait. It is nice.
When she and my mom were at a museum, there
was a nude and she thought this was so interesting,
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and she asked my mom if my mom thought nudes
were appropriate. This was when my grandmother was in her seventies,
and so my mom says, yes, that's appropriate, of course,
thinking about like an artist. So fast forward to Christmas
Eve and we're all sitting around opening gifts and everything,
and she hands this gift to Jim and Jim opens
it up and his face turns beat red, and we're like, Jim,
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show us what it is. And Jim just looks at us.
He's like no, and we were like, Jim, come on,
and he shakes his head again and Jim turn it
around and show us, and so he finally turns it
and it is a nude portrait of my grandmother holding
a son hat over her breast. Can you describe it?
What is it like? It's just a picture of me
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with a black thing across it and shows your arms
and all. This is real, pretty picture. Let's show it
to you when you go home. Yeah, I know I
remember it, but just think what would I like to
do tomorrow. Hey, let's go do it. I don't care
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if it's raining, snow and sleet, and let's go do
it anyhow. Don't let little things bother you like that,
Just do what you want to do. I do think
a lot of that inspiration played into the way that
her grandkids have all tried to live our lives, whether
people starting a company, whether in the case of Mangush
and me starting Mental Floss and feeling like there's no
(29:48):
reason we shouldn't go try to do this, even if
we have no experience in starting a media company, even
if we're college kids. Just do whatever you want to do,
as long as you're not hurting anybody. Just God help you.
We're not smart enough to know what all to do,
so Wendy's some help. Thank you, Mama. I'll see some
(30:10):
money here. I guess that's for you. Maybe that's your
payment for doing this podcast. Mama, i'd say put it
in your pocket while nobody's looking. So. I love you
so much and I'm so glad you were willing to
spend some time with us today. Well, I sure enjoy
being with you all, I really do. Thank you, ma'ma.
I'm gonna come upstairs. This is fun. It's a lot
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of fun. This was a gift. I have chance in
my eyes. I think that this young man has the
most glorious memories of this woman who obviously has shaped
his life in a lot of ways. You know. It
reminds me, not not that I'm ever ever going to
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compare myself to her, but the one thing I always
try to say is don't say no. Whatever life has
to offer, take advantage of it, because that time may
never come around again. And that's why they're all successful
I mean, if you follow whole way, just do it,
have confidence as yourself and if you want to swim,
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practice play bullpractice and you know what, and put that attitude.
You never saw a rejection. You can't reject a person
like that. There's such a love and enjoy in her way.
If she's living, you have to accept it, and that's
why everybody loves her. Just listening to it with such
a happy time. I'm hoping he'll keep this podcast is
(31:38):
going to be a treasure for him. And you know what,
it's going to be a treasure for me when I
feel down in the dump. Life is here to live,
and she certainly has lived an unbelievable, beautiful life to
the fullest. Don't you have nude pictures in the bathroom?
Not of me? I have a little nude picture that
says bath on it, because if I didn't have that picture,
(31:59):
that would be paying on my clothes in the closet.
But read it's not, you know, my picture of nudity.
You would never get to see. I don't even look
in the mirror. When I was young, I was okay,
but now you know, pardon me, the boobs are hanging
ninety two nothing is perking. I just don't look. You
just don't look in the mirror that room. I don't
look anymore. I only have a mirror that shows from
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the facetop. That's me when I put my makeup on,
and that's it. So hey, Mama. There's the Big Awards
every year, and this podcast called Call Your Grandmother was
nominated as one of the best podcasts. Isn't that neat?
Who was? This show that You're on right now was
nominated as one of the best shows. Oh I lock
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that Call Your Grandmother is a production of I Heart
Podcast Network and Superb Entertainment. Our lead producers are Shina
Ozaki and Nora cb. Executive producers are Narrow Poster, Nikki Echo,
and Anna Stump. Managing producer is Lindsay Hoffman. Mastering by
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Bahed Frasier. A theme song is by Anna Stump and
Hamilton's Lighthouser. What else do you like to watch? Or reader?
Those kinds of things a lot? Some of the Hallmark
movies are good, they're best, the best ones. I think
that they took them off the station for a while
and I had a fit about it, so they put
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them back on, so they're on all the time. Now,
what did you do to get them back on? I
called them, I call the stations, and I said, you're
gonna lose a lot of people if you don't put
those back on. So listen to call your grandmother on
the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you
get your podcasts, and don't forget. Leave us a glowing
(33:50):
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