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May 29, 2023 38 mins

Crystal is a big-picture thinker who unburdens organizations by helping them establish a solid financial infrastructure and providing a framework for compliance as they navigate the complex, ever-changing tax laws. Her consultative process addresses the critical challenges businesses face in high-leverage transactions, including M&A, exit planning, and capital gains tax mitigation. An entrepreneur who has launched multiple companies, Crystal brings proven success in designing solutions that minimize risk and drive sustainable bottom-line growth.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome the Cannabis Talk one oh one featuring Blue with
Joe Bronde, the world's number one source for everything cannabis.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hello, welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one, the world's
number one source for everything cannabis.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
My day's Blue.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Alongside of this is mister Joe Grande and you are
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Speaker 4 (00:16):
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(00:38):
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Speaker 4 (00:55):
Cannabis Talkmagazine dot com and subscribe. Now our guest today female,
Hey ol Friendly, Crystal Wampler.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Crystal is an amazing woman, you guys, a holistic advisor
to CPAs, small business owners, high net worth individuals and
startups with a specialty and comprehensive tax planning business development
in cannabis and crypto. I can't wait to hear so
much that she has to offer. She is the founder
of the Kinethics Right Kinethics and the Crypto Canniverse show,

(01:26):
which we're going to talk about. They are a cannabis
financial advisory solutions group and they help connect you with
the best advisors, investors and partnerships. They love finding your
missing puzzle piece, which I like that coach, So she's
figuring things out for you. Crystal is actually a big
picture thinker, you guys, who unburdens organizations by helping them

(01:47):
establish a solid financial infrastructure and providing a framework for
compliance as they navigate the complex ever changing tax laws
with are always changing, and she's on it. Like Phonics,
her consultant business. This process addresses the critical challenges businesses
face and high leverage level transactions, including M and a's

(02:08):
exit planning and capital gains tax mitigation. An entrepreneur who
has launched multiple companies, Crystal brings proven success, which is
design solutions that minimize risks and drive sustainable bottom line growth.
You guys check out the website kinetics dot com which
is C A N E T H I c S

(02:28):
dot com on IG. It's the same thing. And of
course the show is the Crypto Kennaverse Show.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Crystal, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
You guys give her a warm welcome. We actually met
her blue, which is more ironic, at the crypto party
that we had here, the one that was here, Yes,
oh you were here, that one oh yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Now I remember when she said that to you, understanding
that right, yes, because she looks so familiar, and then
to me too, and then when she told me that
there were they kept saying that we I was like, no,
I think we met her at this crypto event in Newport,
or Coast.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
I was like, I wasn't that that one though?

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Yeah, and so she was here at the campus before.
So welcome back to the campus. And I hope you
had a good time at that first party that we had.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
Thank you, thank you. I appreciate it, had a great time.
This is a six set. It's just insane to be here.
I appreciate it so much.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Well, it's you know, cool to hear all these things
that you do. And I want to get into it
a little bit. But before we get into your company
everything you do.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Who are you and where are you from?

Speaker 5 (03:24):
My name is Crystal Wampler. I'm the CEO and founder
of Kinetics, and I spend half my time in Golden
Colorado and in Orange County.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
No she traveled back and forth.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yes, where where'd you.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Grow up at?

Speaker 5 (03:36):
I grew up in from Bloomington, Indiana, No way. How
did I get out to Orange County? Well, you know,
I got fibromyalgia and got really sick. Was on like
fourteen different medications and the cannabis, you know, really helped me.
So I came out to Arizona and uh, you know,

(03:57):
started to find the different strains that helped me. And
you know, a year later, I was off all my medication,
lost forty pounds, and you know, started really loving the
cannabis industry.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Wow, is that literally what drove you to leave the Midwest?
Leave the Hoo's your territory had to right?

Speaker 5 (04:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Really?

Speaker 5 (04:14):
Yeah, it's illegal, it's such bullshit.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
But how crazy and cool and ironic is that that
cannabis led you out here for medicine, I know, crazy,
and then to start a company like that to do this.
How old were you when that happened, when you figured
out this is what you had your elements?

Speaker 5 (04:30):
I was thirty years old.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Well that's when you first got diagnosed.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Yeah, when I first got diagnosed.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
What is fibrobiologia.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Fibromyalgia is basically a degenerative disease. So I don't know
how to explain it. But it messes with your muscles
and your your nerves.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Are kind of crippling, right like, Yeah, tears you down
and really puts you to work, Like you don't want
to get up, you don't want to leave the house,
you don't want to do anything.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
Mm hmmm. But cannabis fixed all that for me, got
me healthy and you know, now.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Was there a certain like method that you were taking
it where you're taking like sibs and oils, where you
smoking it, where you applying it on your muscles.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
I started smoking it, but then my mother got cancer
and died from lung cancer, and so I changed to edibles.
So now now I use edibles and sativa. I know
it's like sativa indica, but those kind of sativa's really
helped me, you know, helped me lost weight, helped me,
you know, stay off medications, helps with pain control.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Sorry for most lost. My father also passed away. How
long ago was that Yeah? From wow, yeah, right down
during the pandemic.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
Yeah, right, during COVID. It's tough.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
It's always really tough.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yeah, one person at a time in the hospital, very
very difficult.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Did your mom use cannabis as well to try to
treat it?

Speaker 5 (05:50):
You know what? She always called it the devil's lettuce,
wacky weed. But as she was getting sick, I helped
her find some cannabis and it actually helped her a lot.
The doctors said that she was the most happiest patient ever.
When she was going through chemo. I would rub really
strong CBD oil on her body, and the doctors were like, well,

(06:17):
why isn't she burning, you know, her skin wasn't burning
as badly as other people people's skins were burning because
of this medication, and so it was really really helping
her out.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
It's just so crazy that, you know, your mom calls
it the Devil's let us, as so many people do, right,
and then they have an element that makes them go, well,
this little disease, you know, could be not cured but
treated with something that you would think is never it's
a drug. And the propaganda that we've all grown up on,

(06:50):
especially your mother in a time where you know, obviously
she's older than us, is like, no, you don't want
to use this type of medication, or it's not medication,
it's a drug. You don't want to use this drug
to treat you, but we'll shoot you up with this
and give you chemo for that and do all this
and that.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
As she was going.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Through that was she hesitant to try it because of
her upbringing.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
You know, she was hesitant. But after coming out to
California and going to cannabis events with me and seeing
some presentations and education is key, right, So that really
changed her mindset, and so then when she did get sick,
it was easier for her to uh, to medicate.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
That's a blessing. And who taught you about it? How illness?

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Just by accident? Research Google?

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Right? Well, yeah, I mean research Google some of the
cannabis companies that I was working with, you know.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, And so do you have a college background?

Speaker 5 (07:48):
I do? I do. I went to Purdue Yeah there. Yeah.
I thought I was gonna do engineering or something like that.
And I realized that, you know, the best thing that
I could do for myself is get a public relations
degree and create a psychology minor and Spanish minor so

(08:08):
that I could, you know, communicate with people, build relationships.
My parents were both business owners, and I realized that
if I could communicate and you know, talk with people,
then I could do anything I wanted.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
And now you've created a few businesses and now you
have this business that leans into the cannabis space and
deals with cannabis from this to that to even crypto.
So tell us a little bit about what your company does.
Because you're helping people strategize, you're looking at missing pieces.
I love that you're the you know, finding the missing
puzzles for your cannabis company.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
What exactly are you doing for people?

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Because even looking at what I read in the bio,
all the laws, all the regulations that are constantly changing.
You have to just stay on your game consistently. It's
like you're a consultant basically.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
Right exactly. You know Kinethics, it's a cannabis financial advisory
solutions group. So I work with the best people in
the industry and I help companies find solutions.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
And solutions for what like what are some of the
people coming to you for? Like who's a client? How
does it how do people get a hold of you?
And for what reasons?

Speaker 5 (09:11):
So financial solutions, raising capital, yeah exactly, you know, do
raising capital, partnerships, investors, family offices that I work with.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Actually, we're actually discussing doing a raise right now.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
Oh really, Yeah, tell me about it.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I mean, well, I mean I don't want to go
to detail, but we're looking to raise about five million
dollars to expand into multiple states. We're going to buy
the real estate in five different states and grow into
the fighter states, building the same.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
EXI six set that you just said about it. Yeah,
in five different locations.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I mean there's there's you'd have to know all of
our revenue streams and understand you know why we're successful
and why it works in all the states. But yeah,
that's what we're looking to do. We got a PPM
that we're putting together.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
Right now, and I'd love to see it.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah. Yeah, I think this is an awesome timing.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
This is perfect to get that and being a woman
owner and you're on the board of the International Cannabis
Business Women's Association that actually helped women launch a business
into the cannabis industry.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
How did you get involved with that?

Speaker 5 (10:16):
So I got involved with that. I became friends with
the CEO and co founder, Sofia, and you know, one
thing led to another, and they asked me to be
their seventh board member. I was actually very proud of
it because I was the first gringa. So I absolutely
love it. We just threw our first event last month,

(10:40):
and we're going to do another event coming up probably
in August.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Nice and you're doing other events. We're gonna break real quick.
I know you have a big event coming up in July, right,
and you got a lot of event. Is this in
Los Angeles?

Speaker 5 (10:52):
Actually? Yeah, Well, there's event coming up June twenty ninth,
and I'm working with Brad Turner and Josh Bio's and yeah,
you do know Brad Brad throws like all of the events.
It's another event that I saw you, you guys at
as well. Your bus is huge, it was parked right
out front. It was a cryptocannabis event investor investor event

(11:15):
as well, and I totally forgot where I was going
with that.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Well, you're having another event in June. You said, yes, yes,
that's to raise capital.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
Right, It's a Cannabis Investor Network event and it's the
Global Global Capital Network event as well. What do you
a newport?

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:32):
And actually I want to talk about what you charge
and how you make your.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Fees on that.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
But it's Cannabis Talk.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
When one moves right back from this break there, sure
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Speaker 3 (11:50):
Welcome back to.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
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(12:18):
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company that's helping so many entrepreneurs out there. Blue was
asking before we went to break, how do you make
your money?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
How do you charge these people? How does this work?
So you raise us five million dollars? What happens?

Speaker 5 (12:40):
Generally? I charge about seven percent.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
It's a good little ticket.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
Mm hm. I'm actually pretty good at finding money and
I enjoy it. I find a lot of money internationally.
It's taken me a long time to connect with people
outside of the cannabis industry, people that are actually ready
to write a check.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
You know, what's is I think like a lot of people,
you know, like I think we were talking about this
off break and and you know, there's a lot of
people that are jaded from the cannabis industry because they're
touching the plant, you know. And there was a lot
of these guys that came in that you know, they
knew everything about cannabis.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
They were the.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
You know, the goat of this and the goat of that,
and they you know, and they're master this, master that,
and then they find out that they don't really know
how to run businesses and how to operate and how
to you know, you know, sustain themselves in a market.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Right, So I think it's it's interesting, you know, to.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Raise capital for the cannabis industry, but are you finding
that people want to raise for the actual flower or
for the ancillary brands?

Speaker 5 (13:42):
Actually the yeah, both both. It just depends on what
kind of investor you're you're talking to, but yeah, both, yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, some of them are are you you know, predominantly
finding things that are real estate backed or are you
looking for things that are like licensed backed or like
what kind of you know.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
Yeah, well I I well, real estate's really important. That
that's super important. But the team, the team is the
most important. You know, have have the do they have
what it takes to get the job done? Are they
going to be successful? Because you know, everybody can whoever
can open a cannabis business, but can you sustain it?
Can you take it to the next level? And so

(14:25):
that's part of what I do is I bring together
a team to help help them do that, a team
of you know, CPAs, banking attorneys, asset protection, those kind
of things. But my what I really like is I
like to hunt for companies that are just doing things
a little bit different. Like, for example, there's this one

(14:47):
company that is going to be tokenizing their farm and
then it kind of drops the threshold for just anybody
to be able to invest. And so that's that's something
that's super cool. So instead of having two or three
investm you might have you know, one hundred and fifty investors.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Right, what does that mean? Tokenizing in the farm, crowdfunding.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
Right, cryptocurrency, n FT, smart contracts using blockchain?

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (15:10):
And is that are people wanting to throw that money
in towards the cannabis space where they just put their
funds intore?

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Like, how does that work?

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Okay, so we both have crypto, we get Well, I
don't I'm not really into the crypto Bluemore is. But
if I have X amount of crypto, I can put
that towards that. And I'm part owner now in this
because I'm utilizing my crypto towards that.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
Well, you can pay crypto towards that. But what happens
is you have a realist, like say you have a farm,
and the farm is broken down to like thirty plants.
Each plant is a fraction of that farm, and so
then you would sell that fraction that plant and invest
in that. So whatever it makes, you'll make back, right.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
And and it's also making money in the in the
market what you're saying, So it's so, but is that
investment dollar going towards the company or is that going
into you know, into the into the holding of the crypto.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
It's just like money. It's just like using regular money,
but instead you're using you know, cryptocurrency money. But you
don't have to use cryptocurrency money. You can, you know.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
But the company that gets it right, I'm asking, like
the compan let's so let's say I did that for cannabis,
talking on right, and I went raised a million dollars. Okay,
so I'm raised a million dollars. And then so I
take out half a million dollars to goo throw an event,
and then I bring back seven hundred thousand on that
half a million dollars in a six month period or

(16:35):
three month period or whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
And then.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
That that turns into am I pulling that money out?
Or are we leaving that money in there for the crypto?

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Is it?

Speaker 5 (16:46):
Well? So it's just like imagine having investors, you know,
like ten investors, right, and so whatever money you're you know,
they invest whatever percent they they invest or. You say, okay,
you get this ten percent or you get this, then
you're gonna give them that money back.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Sure, but when they pull it out, but then they
can pull it out anytime.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
No, they can't pull it out anytime.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
So it has to mature, right, gotcha? How long does
that using mature? What are some of these deals that
you're looking at?

Speaker 5 (17:13):
It could take anywhere from a few months to a
couple of years depending on what kind of right, all
deals are different.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
That's awesome.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
And what kind of companies are you working with now?
Are that in the past, any good big deals that
we'd know of, any big companies that we were aware.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
Of, Yes, but I'm under in DNA and I kind
of can't speak about it.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Oh that's always good.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
Yeah, I'm on the finance side, so of who's funding
and this and that.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
So you're the behind the scenes getting your money to
support this.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Okay, Well, let's talk about this, well real quick, do
you need a series seven to do that?

Speaker 5 (17:45):
To raise this kind of Well, I do marketing and partnerships,
so I put a little spin on it, and so
I'm not really offering in the investor. I'm just marketing
and so that's that's how I get paid.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Are you just finding marketing? Finding and connecting.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
The dots exactly?

Speaker 4 (18:04):
And you need to meet with this person you guys
figure it out.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
But I'm the one that made it happen for.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
You exactly the market that's great questions.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
Yeah, well, yeah, I mean that's what I mean, you know,
I mean I ideally, like I mean, you know, when
you start to deal with you know, investments or or
or helping to find investors, depending on you know, what
level of you doing that, sometimes you need to carry

(18:31):
licenses to do so.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
So you know, and I think there's but I understand
what you're saying to your your marketing rms.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
So but I also have a team that do have
that does have licenses and things like that.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Whatever license.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
It's is good because then you got to have that
backing of knowing what you're doing and making sure it's
legit and making sure it's right making sure the process
goes down, because no matter who you hook them up with,
you got to make sure it's solid and all the
PaperWorks tight.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
If not, it's like, Okay, who the hell you're introducing
me to?

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Right?

Speaker 4 (19:00):
And now I see that some of this knowledge comes
from one of these shows that you're doing right here,
the Crypto Cannabise Show. You're the co founder and co
host of this. I love this blue check this out.
It's an internationally faith based show providing inspirational and education
platform for entrepreneurs with the five sees. When I seen that,

(19:22):
I was like, what are the five seas? Before I
read and the first one just touched my heart. It's Christ, Cannabis, Cryptocurrency, cybersecurity,
and CPAs. I've never heard somebody use the five sees
and then starting it off with Christ like that, this
faith based organization that you're doing with the show and

(19:45):
you throw Christ first?

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Where does that come from?

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Well? My upbringing, you know, I was raised in the
Church and I realized that they were very judgmental on
people that use cannabis, and I wanted to change the stigma.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Oh and as you see that, I read that too,
somewhere in something that you wrote too. That's one of
the big things that you're trying to do is change
the stigma within churches.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
How are you going about doing that? Because we've all
known that.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
I've randomly just had another interview with Greg who is
from the Mormon Church ironically, and we were talking with
him about he left the Mormon Church. He's an ex
Mormon active member there. We literally just had a podcast
a few back touching a lot about that.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
What is it that you're trying to do and want
to do about that?

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Because I know what I can say about it, But
how are you going about doing that?

Speaker 5 (20:32):
Well, one way I'm going about doing that is having
business owners that are within the church and pastors come
on the show and be educated about you know, cannabis,
and that's changing a lot. And another thing that I
would like to do is I would like to work
with you know, Brad Turner again and launch a you know,
a cannabis fish fair of some kind within the churches

(20:56):
to help educate them as well. But I've also reached
out to my pastor and found out, you know, that
his wife is selling CBD and things like that. So
we're going to start working together and help have events
and educational platform.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Now you guys doing another event with Brad No, i'd
like to Oh you haven't worked with him?

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Oh, no, I have worked with him. We have another
event coming up on June twenty ninth in Newport at
the Hyatt and that's the Global Global Investor Network event
and it's also going to be the Cannabis Investor Network event.
And there's five different women cannabis leaders that are going

(21:38):
to be presenting and I am one of those.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Fantastic and those tickets are available at event rights and
thank you for those who want to go out there
on the good old June twenty ninth right here, if
you're local in California at the Hight Regency, Newport Beach, California.
That looks like it's going to be a great conference.
It's just a one day What time does that start?

Speaker 5 (21:58):
That starts at two o'clock, goes to ten pm.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
So are people going there to pitch their their their stuff.
So it's just a conference to pitch.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
Right, It's a conference to pitch to. There's gonna be
a lot of money in the world room.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Ben Zinga, Yeah, ben Zingo.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
Yeah, exactly, it's very similar.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
I got you, what is ben Zinga? How did you
pull that out? I'm sitting here going what's be Is
that a game? I thought it was a board game
ben Zingo? I'm in the investment world, joke, look at you,
I know, I was like looking at you like, oh
my goodness, I'm so happy he's Here's sometimes when I'm like,
oh my goodness, what did he say?

Speaker 3 (22:35):
What is Benzinga?

Speaker 4 (22:36):
So Benzinga is a type of conference that they have
where just a bunch of money comes so that our
investors correct.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
It's a trade show.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
It's a trade show, just like all the shows we
go to, but for you know, up and coming businesses
that are looking for funding. Oh wow, So like like,
you know, we could set Like what I was thinking
is that they actually asked us to partner with them
to help them sponsor I mean, to help him promote
it this year. But they asked us like again, like
thirty thirty days into it. So you know when people
ask that late in the game, we kind of just

(23:04):
usually bad back.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
You know what one of the thoughts was next year,
doing this setting all this up at Benzinga and setting
up our whole show, and then having the basically sit
right here and and interview people and let people know
that we're doing a pitch, that we're raising money, and
why we've got seven different revenue streams. What are those
revenue streams?

Speaker 4 (23:26):
But boom, you know, and then even that someone's listening,
if somebody wants to start a gummy company, and that
would contact you and go to your company and say,
what am I? This is how I want to do it,
this is what I've been doing, and can you help
me raise the money in the capital for this?

Speaker 5 (23:41):
That is correct?

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Now are you doing a startup like that? Are you
trying to do already already? Companies that are already you know,
in motion, I can.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
It depends if the startups, if they have money, if
they're they're smart, if they seem to know what they're
doing and they can take direction. Yes, but I prefer
companies that have been in business, you know, two or
three years that you know are yeah, or at least
two or three years that are that's raising at least
you know, three million plus. A lot of my investors

(24:11):
they they won't invest in anything that's less than ten million.
But if they have a good team and their their
books are clean and everything is good, they'll invest.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, that's nice.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
And how do you pull in I mean, I know
the cryptocurrency, but cyber security.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Explain that to me?

Speaker 4 (24:30):
What is that about on the show and how you
guys are talking about that.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
So cybersecurity is super important, especially now that you know
cryptocurrency is in play and digital currency, and we just
really like to try to educate our business owners on
best cybersecurity practices.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Is it more like just buying Norton Security for your
you know what I mean? Like I always see Norton
and thinking that's the Is that the go to? Or
am I just one of these guys that's falling for
the big brand name that's out there.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
No, I mean I have different side. Security companies come
on and teach and educate. So it's it's I mean, yeah,
there's Norton, but there's also you know, educational pieces on
you know, how to keep your kids safe you know
off of you know, from the dark web, and you know,
educate them and you know, teach them, you know what
they're looking at to do their due due diligence and

(25:20):
to be smart, change your passwords, you know, just basic
cybersecurity stuff.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Which I keep getting to notice I need to do
for myself.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Google keeps telling me change your pastor know what's funny
is when you do that. Now I'm scared to not
do it, scared to do.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
It, you know. I mean, like I'm scared.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
To do it.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
That's funny you say that because I'm like, a change it?

Speaker 5 (25:38):
Now?

Speaker 3 (25:38):
What am I gonna?

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, I'm gonna start playing with it and find out
that that was the trap. You know, I fell into
the mouse trap. But listen, when we come back, we
want to do the high five with you. But we
also you know, I appreciate, I appreciate what you're doing
for the industry. I mean, ultimately, you know, we need
more people that you know, understand how to raise capital
and bring in funding and can evaluate people's companies and
look into it, you know, And I think it's uh,

(26:01):
it's it's a it's something that our industry I think
in the beginning has taken advantage of. But but not
that they were taking advantage. I just don't know that
they knew what kind of wave they're hopping on, you know,
Like I think.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
There's they were definitely taking advantage of.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, yeah, there was a lot of investors that were
I'm saying, but I don't know that the drivers like
did it intentionally. I think they really thought they could
do it. Yeah, unfortunately, not everybody. I mean, some of
the drivers might have came in and knew what they
were getting into. But you know, it's like when you're
building something. You know, if if you don't know how
to build out a machine, you know, that's never and
who knows how to build out a machine like this

(26:36):
that you know, because it's never really been done. You know,
It's different when you know, you say, hey, I'm gonna
get into the you know, automotive industry. Okay, what does
that look like.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Well, we're gonna, you know, do a car dealership down
the street and we're gonna, yeah, we're gonna go buy
the lot.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
We're gonna you know, go to the auction pick up
a bunch of vehicles. We're gonna get them all ensured,
we're gonna throw them on this lot, and we're gonna
flip them.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
On Beach Boulevard.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
There's you know, we know that's been done.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
But we started talking about like, you know, we're going
to build out greenhouses and you know, three hundred thousand,
you know, greenhouses.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
And nobody's proven it yet.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
And it's like Glasshouse has the biggest one and they're
not profitable yet, but they're about to have a turnaround
when you go well within the smaller ones and they've
made a little money, but there's just not enough anecdotal
evidence either to prove it.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
And then oh, look at this dispensary.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
This one did pretty good, that one sold, this one
sold for this It's got to be hard sometimes for
people to even want to go in there.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
To where a lot of people have pulled out.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
I would think, you know it, does that make that
hard for your job to find people to be like, no,
I still want to invest?

Speaker 5 (27:39):
Well, it did. It made it very difficult. But then
I had to go outside of the cannabis industry that
the regular investors to, you know, mainstreams and family offices
and people in Dubai and Germany and find investors that
way that you haven't been jaded.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Sure, yeah, well listen this Cannabis talking about.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
One move right back after this brier there.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
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Speaker 3 (28:13):
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Speaker 5 (28:36):
Me, can ethics. You can be ethical in the.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Cannabis Is that what it stands for? Say it again, ethics.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
Can ethics, you can be ethical in the cannabis industry.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Oh that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
That is really a cool little tagline like that, which
sometimes people weren't and aren't sometimes you know, it's it's.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Fund a bad wrap. You know.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Here's the thing, man, like you, I think there's you
know something that like I can understand from being an
entrepreneur and you know, walking into a wave like I
said that, you don't know, you know what kind of
way if you're getting into you know, you know, you
walk into a new industry and you know, you believe

(29:18):
that the laws are going to be what they say
they were, and so they these laws all became this
here's the law, and then all of a sudden, you know,
you're a million dollars into it, and the law just changes.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
You know, and all the rules changed.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Whoa, you know, and it's just like I just spent
three hundred thousand on that law in order to do this,
and then now there's this new law that says I
got to spend a three hundred grand over here trying
to fix what I did over here after you Yeah,
everything's happening, right, There's these there's these are things that

(29:50):
are real life and and you know, unfortunately, I think
that there's a group of individuals out there that got
you know, you over their head, you know, and and
and they involved into an industry, you know that, and
I think some of them took advantage of it by
you know, over living, you know, like having nicer vehicles
and having the extra stuff that they didn't need. And

(30:13):
and they they don't really understand how to you know,
make this something that you know, that is a profitable
machine because.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
It's not a it's not a franchise.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
You know, you didn't buy into Little Caesars, you didn't
buy into the you know, Pizza Hut, you didn't buy
into you know, McDonald's.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yeah, it's it's still like you use your analogy, you're
still we're still building the plane in the air. Yeah,
it's flying, it's taken off. And then the government still
playing with everybody's tools by changing everything and there's no
real rules. Are you working with more people just strictly
in California? Are you nationwide?

Speaker 5 (30:50):
I'm actually nationwide. I work with people in California, in Texas, Oklahoma, Chicago.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Nice, so all over the country.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
People need to look at your company and how long
you has been in business.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
Since twenty eighteen eight?

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Really?

Speaker 5 (31:05):
Yeah, we were actually in twenty nineteen we were nominated
by the California Cannabis Business Awards for the top five
CPAs and cannabis CPAs in California.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
You know, congratulation.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
I am not a CPA, but my partners are, you know.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
And one of how much have you guys raised collectively?
That's probably more of a broad question you can answer.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
Yeah, about eighty three hundred or eight eight million, three
hundred and ninety seven dollars.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Eight million, three hundred and eighty seven dollars nice.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
In the last year and a half.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Oh, that's fantastic. That's pretty accurate right there. That was
a good answer. I would seventy three. Geez, that's so cool.
And your show that you do does it?

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Is it broadcasted live every Friday from eleven to twelve
pm Pacific statard time on LinkedIn, Facebook and Twitter?

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Is that what I seen?

Speaker 5 (31:53):
It does? And I actually now have a discord channel
and so I'm on there and TikTok as well.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Oh really, so people can interact with you live too,
m ask all the same questions pretty much, right? Is
that kind of like a borderline free question and answer
type scenario for people that are tuning in?

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Or is it more for like the curious investor?

Speaker 5 (32:15):
Both?

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (32:16):
Both.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
It's funny.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Is like sometimes you get on those like these apps
and then all of a sudden you're sitting with people
and they become investors or partners and stuff. And you know,
I know that because we've worked with you know, many people,
and you.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Never know where it really comes. You know, you never
know who's going to be on there.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
No, you just start out, you start asking and you
receive you know, yeah, it depends.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
You know, that's just the way the world works. It
really does, well, Crystal. I like what you're doing. I
think it looks amazing. People go check out our website
as she's a hard working. How many partners do you
have in this? I know you said some of your
partners with CPAs. How many people are you working with?

Speaker 5 (32:49):
So I have a different CPA in each state that
I'm working with, and I also have my partner out there,
who is.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
A little guy.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
Yeah, the little guy. He's only six ' nine, mister
Clayton Cruise, and he is an estate and tax planning attorney.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
He's like the guy that comes in and you're like,
oh my god, who is this monster that just walked
in there?

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Won't even let him in, Like he's got to go
under He's gotta duck under the door.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
I'm like, it's such a big dude. I just want
to throw him basketball and like go go play somewhere. Geez,
get out of here, you man, big old monster. He's
a big old bear.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Dude. He's huge. I love when I like that.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
I mean maybe maybe one or two people will have
to duck through the door since they've been here.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yeah, he's he's a big one.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
Very very few people have to duck the door, you know.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
He's huge.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yeah, and you never know. You're like, oh, he's the
car he's gonna hit.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
Me the door probably like what seven feet probably.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Seven foot door. Yeah, he's sitting there bending.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
His door shoes. His shoes make him pop his head
on it.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
When I shook his hand, he actually tickled my armpit
with his middle fingers are so big too, which is yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Duge shaking his head.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Well, Crystal, it's good to see your company. It's good
to see you women doing great things and helping other
women out there too. Those who want to go support
once again. That big party is going to be in
Newport on jul What is it against June twenty ninth.
June twenty ninth, going out there and if you're looking
for some investments, or you're looking for something to do,
or you're an investor and want to go find some
products and some companies that are out there, go check

(34:18):
that out. But we like to do the high five
Crystal with everybody that comes.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
On the show.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
So question number one, especially with you dealing with your elements,
how old are you the first time you tried cannabis?
And where'd you get it from?

Speaker 5 (34:29):
I was almost eighteen and I got it from my sister.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Oh she was already smoking.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
Huh yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Older sister.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Yeah, older sister in Indiana, in Indiana, still smoking. Yeah,
she does nice.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
That's fun, that's great.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Question number two of the High five, what is your
favorite way to use or smoke cannabis?

Speaker 5 (34:45):
I prefer edibles?

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Oh really?

Speaker 5 (34:47):
Yeah? What kind gummies are nice? Chocolate's great?

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Is it in every day any day or is it
nighttime only type thing?

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Pretty much nighttime or weekend?

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Yeah? Yeah, and go ready to go down that last hour,
that last two hours of the night.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Yeah, it makes all the shows better. Question number three
of the High five crystal Craziest place you ever used
or smoked cannabis?

Speaker 5 (35:13):
Probably in British Columbia Whistler. I was. I'm an adrenaline junkie,
and so I took this snowmobiling extreme snow wheeling to
or seven miles up into the mountains. And once I
got up there, I was like, oh, thank god, I'm alive.
And so I just smoked a joint up there.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
That's gotta be fun. It was scary.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
It was very scary. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Question number four of the High five, what is your
go to munchie after you get.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
Probably chocolate, you know, browniees. It has to be something homemade.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
It's not like, you know, I like that good answer.
A lot of people just answer, but they don't say
it has to be homemade.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Yeah, do you know what I mean? Like when she
said that, I was like, man, I just really I
got you on that one.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
I went to a good homemade brownie too. There's some
good homie. I like the little you know what's funny
is I literally was thinking of little ran oils when
they were making the brownies and stuff that those are good.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
I just like went, like I said, the homemade was
such a bigger, you know, fine touch.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, no one ever said that.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Because you can get cookies from anywhere you're homemaking to brownie.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Other people will just be like a taco okay cool.
Some people are like, oh cookies, what kind of oreos?
Okay cool?

Speaker 2 (36:22):
You know, but when she was like homemade, I was like, damn,
you're like almost like that's just a broad enough answer.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Just anything homemade. I need to go get some.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Although I must say, Trader Joe's has these brownies that
are like in the small little package that come in
like I think it's an eight little package that are
just phenomenal. And then they have the cookie brownie too.
It's a cookie on the bottom and the brownie on top.
Trader Joe's is phenomenal for things that random. Let me
get the fatty out of me. Question number five with
the high five crystal. If you could smoke cannabis with

(36:51):
anyone dead or alive, who would it be and why?

Speaker 5 (36:56):
Probably George Washington, our founding fathers actually relate. I'm related
to him, no way, Yeah, And so I think it
would be cool to go back in time and sit
on the porch and you know, light up a fatty
with him and you know, talk about you know, what
he's doing and Mount Vernon and all of that.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
How did you figure out that you guys were related?

Speaker 5 (37:21):
My dad did a genealogy. He looked back into our
family history and found it.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Do you give any perks for that?

Speaker 5 (37:28):
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
That'd be amazing if you did, Like like so he
was just one of the ancestors of your of your lifeline.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
Hum hmm, wow, yeah, crazy cool.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
To find out somebody there.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
You could do it too, well. I've done somebody, and
I found out my dad was Native American from Nebraska,
the Winnebago tribe. And you know, my real last name
could have been Bear because the guy that was his
real dad was Bear.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
It was his last name. But Lopez is what raised him.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
So like we did a little bit, but not that
far back, you know what I'm saying, Like that's deep.
I mean, he's literally one of the four Fathers, spiners
of this whole civilization.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
I'm related to the right brothers. Ain't that right? That's
a good thing.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Well, christ is there anything that we forgot to mention
that you want to mention about your company or that
we didn't talk about that you want to plug about yourself?

Speaker 2 (38:18):
No?

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Thank you No, And I can't wait to see now
more events. Now when we see you, it's gonna be like, oh,
there's Crystal.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
I'm excited. Thank you again.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
Five million dollars.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Make it ten.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
We don't want ten, we don't want that much, so
let's go.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Well, there it is, guys, it's Cannabis Talk one on
Want to remember this if no one else loves you,
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