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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Now it's time for Cannabis Talk one on one with Blue,
Joe Grunde and markin Craig Washerman, the pot Brothers at Law,
the world's number one source for everything cannabis. Our special
guest today is Big You, leader of the notorious gang
the Crips.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hello and welcome to Cannabis Talking one on one. My
name's Blue.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Alongside of me is the world famous Mark Washerman and
the big famous guy, mister Chok.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
I think there's a bigger dude on set. Finally, it's
about time I get to wait around this room.

Speaker 5 (00:28):
I'm shack of being the big dog around the building.
Big you, U be the MoU.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
He said, the hoodlighborhood. How many of us could throw it,
But you know what I mean, I get away with it.
One next to them? What's going down?

Speaker 5 (00:42):
Big you?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
How you doing? Baby Living Man talking to them like baby, come.

Speaker 6 (00:45):
On, I'm living man. I came up here and check
out the smoker's life.

Speaker 7 (00:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (00:52):
That cannabis Uh, Cannabis one on one.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, it's Cannabis Talk one one. That's it.

Speaker 6 (00:57):
I wasn't promoting the show. I ain't got no check
right that man.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
On man, Them crackers and the waters. That's partial payment.

Speaker 6 (01:09):
Right there, pay just for y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Know.

Speaker 6 (01:11):
The only thing they gave me was some crackers.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
And they're all around the room.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
And the edibles they did give me. They took the
edibles back and put them on the table. I don't
even know. I already ate something. I don't even know
if I get to.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
That's the coldest part about it. Here you going big here.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
And the funny thing is is actually this motherfucker opened
the bag and they're like.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
Didn't they just give them to him them?

Speaker 6 (01:39):
You can't put edibles in front of any cannabis.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
I'm like Mark doing that to you.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, man, there's more, there's more. Don't wait, there's more.
I got a bag of someone hit hiitting around here.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
We got you.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Don't worry about it, man, make sure. But they're only
for consumption, you so only you know what I'm saying.
They're for friends, just for friends, just to use. You
have to eat one before you leave.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
We ain't carrying you food for a few of us.

Speaker 6 (02:10):
Pit.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
You gotta get them legs working. We gotta get He.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Said he want gonna let you down. I will not
let you do. So listen, man, you know Big You, man,
friend of a long time.

Speaker 6 (02:18):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I love you, man, and got to see the kids
today that they've grown up.

Speaker 6 (02:21):
Huh, yeah, they grown up. They're bigger than that's how
we see that. It was at the house.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Yeah, they were like.

Speaker 6 (02:29):
D motorcycles.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, these kids, boy, they keep growing up.

Speaker 6 (02:34):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
So but it's good to have you on Cannabis talk
one on one man. And you know, one thing I
want to I want to dive into that's dear in
my heart about about Big You and a lot of people.
You know, he's he's world famous. But you know is
the charity and the foundation, the crench All movement that
you've always had and the things that you've done for
the city of Los Angeles, so you know, with the

(02:54):
sports programs to the you know, giving back to the kids. Man,
I remember your wife, you know, and and you and
everybody else. And you know, when I'm getting to know
you as a youngster, I'm coming up and I'm watching this,
you know, this influenceable man help so many you know,
kids and in the community that it just makes me
proud to be a friend. But can you tell us
a little bit about some of those those things that
you involved in yeah.

Speaker 6 (03:15):
So inside the curritr community, we have like one of
the biggest giveaways we do every year. We actually now
we just translated into every Wednesday. We gather like two
hundred meals to the kids every Wednesday. So we just
got through doing that. Me and my cousin Ron came
from over there were just dropping them off. So but
that's one of these like the life of love, working
for the community, finding different kind of ways. I do everything,

(03:37):
and we try to find ways to get book packed
backpacks books. I got a website that we're developing right now,
me and my cousin Ron Brown. That's gonna be able
to help parents that's at home dealing with homeschooling.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
I need the book.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
We both marking myself. I got a seven and a five.
And that shit's hard hard, it's the hardest hand. None
of that our old kids, God bless them all. But
my kids will listen to you better than you know
what I'm saying, vice versa. They don't listen to me, like, God,
I'm dad, you don't number four plus four is.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
I'm like, Okay, don't you gotta bring that up. I'm
gonna learn it soon.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I'm stop at Joe.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
No, No, you know it's it's actually you know, giving back.
So by doing that, you know, I know that you
you have been helping people throughout the Los Angeles area, Crinchall,
and not only that throughout the nation. But let's talk
about some of the football stuff you do as well.
I mean, I know you've been coaching actively for several years.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
And stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
So and then I know you have some of the
off leagues or whatever it is, the traveling leagues you
do that.

Speaker 6 (04:44):
Well, yeah, we do football. Well, I got I just
created I just started doing basketball. This is my first
year doing No, it's my second. You're doing AAU basketball.
But even more than that, what I like to tell
people is about I got right now, in the last
team that I coached, I got twelve of my kids
in D one colleges beautiful. So yeah, and then we
had eight that made it to the lead to the

(05:06):
NFL that came through our program over the seventh I've
been doing this for seventeen years now, yeah, and I
think what people don't realize how long I've been doing it.
So I had started my program when I before I
came home, So before I parode, I had started developing
option and it's just really just been a lot of work.
But let me tell you one of my highlighted moments

(05:26):
was on spreen break. I had seven of my kids
that saying colleges was at my house. They all brought
their girlfriends to come meet me and it turned into
a mic night that was a what is that called
carry on? You might have seen me post it. I
posted U and it was just a joy in my
life to see these young black men who were always

(05:47):
counted out all in college. I got twelve and d
one costume. You know what I'm saying, And that's like unheard.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Of, especially from the Prenchviall district talking Los Alamados.

Speaker 8 (05:56):
Where you know South Orange County or County, whether they
have I think something.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
That we need to do for our listeners to just
to really understand who we're talking to.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
It.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
This is Eugene big U Henley, and you know this
is the ex CRYPTS leader who when he says got
out people. I don't think we properly set the table,
you know for folks out there who are just listening, going, oh,
who is this cat?

Speaker 5 (06:16):
What do you mean just got out? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Just got out of prison, folks. As well, is what
he means. But just not just got out of you know,
the shower. He just got out the shower and started
to help from kids out. You know what, this is
the next crypt leader right here. This is not you know,
you're just a cat. That's oh man. I just worked
at Walmart. I'm happy to do some good things now
with these kids. And as I say that to you,

(06:39):
big you, you know, growing up in that neighborhood and changing,
I want to go back to where this beautiful change happened.
You know, was it going to prison or where did
this transition in your life occur?

Speaker 5 (06:51):
Walk us down that.

Speaker 6 (06:52):
Actually it was funny how it occurred. I was actually selling.
I was in between Minnesota's and between Minnesota Chicago. I
was living fifteen keys to Chicago for Minnesota on the seal,
and I bought Malcolm X's autobiography, and I read Malcolm
X's autobiography on the road, and then by the time
I got there, I cut my hair off because I

(07:14):
in Malcolm X's autobiography, they was talking about kunks, and
it was talking about how we as black men try
to be like everybody else with our hair and our
women and all that stuff, and so in the book
it affected me that much that I said I didn't
want to sell drugs or nothing, and I didn't want
to cut my hair. So I stayed in Chicago for
a while. But I didn't know how to do nothing
else because I had been selling drugs and banging so long,

(07:36):
and I was like, I didn't want to just become
like just over Muslim at one time. So I ended
up staying at Chicago. Make a long story short, I
came back home. I ended up doing some other stuff.
So I went to Robin. I was like, fuck it,
I'm always good with this pistol.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
He ain't gonna I did the time for it, so.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Don't tell him.

Speaker 6 (08:02):
I'm talking about only beat. So I ended up. I
ended up. So I was still young. Though I'm young,
you know, I'm in my early twenties, and so I'm
twenty one, twenty two. I'm thinking, like shit, I ain't
gonna sell dope, no one on. So I'm ribbing everybody
who sent it up. So but I'm ribbing on a
higher level.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
You know, it makes you a little better a little bit.
They had extra paper that gonna afford.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
This two hundred and fifty killing people with the driver.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
Doing good ship with it. I'm going back to the
hood of my ship.

Speaker 6 (08:31):
So any make a little story shore. I ended up
getting caught robertson undercover police.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, and uh that's.

Speaker 6 (08:39):
Catching catching the case. I got sentenced to fifty six years.
But what's funny is what I tried.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
To about fifty six I want to hear this one.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
What's funny?

Speaker 5 (08:48):
You know?

Speaker 6 (08:49):
What's what? What? What? What changed me even more than
that was I had already been reading, so my mind
was already in a different place. But for young men,
and that's not and this is not just unique to
African America Meskan's wife, it's everybody. I was sitting in
the courtroom and they were they were talking about me
in the courtroom in the language that I couldn't understand,

(09:10):
and they were speaking ain't English, right, you know what
I'm saying. So it was at that moment that I
overstood that, like, damn, you didne delivered yourself to these
people and they talking about you in front of you,
and you don't understand the fucking word they're saying. So
I went and got the Black Laws Dictionary, and while
I was in there, and I started studying the law.
So then I started, but I'd already got found guilty

(09:32):
to the fifty six years. So in the process that
I had caught another case while I was in prison,
while I was in the count of jailer sticking on
the police officers and I didn't do it? Then who
did it? But they said something? Anyway, I ended up
fighting that case per per and so that started me,
p what's means when you represent yourself as your own?

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Now you're doing the same thing to us up here?
By the way, what happened a fucking lawyer over there?

Speaker 6 (09:59):
Now?

Speaker 5 (10:00):
You mean I'm an ex cript lawyer. Now somebody who
understands what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
And this motherfucking lit up, and I'm like, okay, now
you're talking.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Lawyer, because I don't know what the fuck you're just saying.
So yeah, everybody's we're over here, like huh.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
You and Mark Washerman over there in the corners starting
their own fucking firm over here, Joe and I Washerman.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Are like okay, yeah, okay. One, I'm like, can you
say that in English? That's what he meant, though, It's like,
you know.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
You could, like that's twenty minute, that's exactly what he meant.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I was like, like, what is that purper? What is
that proper? Tell us about what happened?

Speaker 6 (10:38):
So yeah, breaks up going signed. No, it was just
that was that was, that was the process. So by
me going for per, I started understanding the law. Yeah,
and then I was and I understood that the way
they charge us in our communities is wrong. So I
still ended up I had to go back. I got
set into the fifty six years. I ended up getting
that back to twenty three. Then know for twenty three,

(10:59):
I did thirteen, but I really was only supposed to
do like nine, but I had caught. I did three
years and nine months in the hole. So that's why
right when I parode, when I seen when I met
blue Enim, I was just coming out the hole. So
I had been in. I had been in solitary confinement
for three years and nine months Jesus, and then I
parode fifteen days out out of out of the hole. Right,

(11:21):
So my mind was like, I wasn't even used to
being around people.

Speaker 5 (11:23):
Yeah, well you're reading a lot. What kept you going
in that?

Speaker 6 (11:28):
Really just programming? Man, It was kind of like my
first my first two months in the hole, because of
my sticking, because of my accused of sault on staff.
They were so I had problems with the with the
with the with the officers, and then placing me first
in the hole. So I had to get past that, let.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
The resentments go, and the killer the killer.

Speaker 6 (11:52):
And so I finally once I, once I got past that,
it was more like I started. I got the regular population,
which was still hole, solid confinement in the cell by yourself,
twenty four hours a day. They is to give us
eight hours a week. So what they would do is,
because there was so many people in the hole, they
couldn't give you your one hour a day or your
two hours a day that you're supposed to get. They'll

(12:12):
come give you eight hours. They'll come get they'll start
to sell one and they'll go out. And then how
many people want to go out? If it's raining, if
it's healing, if it's sunny, if it's whatever, you're going
out there in a pair of drawls and some sandy down,
and they're gonna put you in a little kettle. They
used to put us in these, uh, these kettles, the

(12:33):
dog kettle, yeah, with a toilet and the sink.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
And you never see each other ship and everything right there.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Right, you're outdoor.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
Oh yeah, you're right next door. This is how close
we were.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
Yeah, right, right right. And change of hand.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
You can't get your hand all the way through. You're
chained up.

Speaker 6 (12:47):
Like no, they know once you get in, once you
get in, Sandy, the change Okay, you know. But but
I did that, and it was that that was like
my mental transformation, that was part of it. But that
was a firm me to say that when I came home,
I wanted to help people, and I wanted to be
able to give back to black and brown people of
our community that don't know and especially who are going

(13:10):
through it we went through and not realizing that these
people have a power of us if we give it
to them. So I've been I made it my life
work to to change people. And the one thing that
that that I like this Californians did is is taking
the and changing the laws as far as cannabis. And

(13:31):
it's the reason why shows like you Guys Show is
important and these shows need to go south. In the South,
there's still licking colored people up for small petty crimes
that involve cannabis.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Here too, the most part, but not like in Texas,
but it's happening even Atlanta. You still get wrapped up
for lots of Chicago, you still do more time than here.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
It's to change. It's the contact when you change. Like
the reason we need to get these shows and the
shows like your shows around the world and a lot
of people talking about it is because the contact of
marijuana is the first contact that police used to or
you with you to get to start the process. Yeah,

(14:16):
now you're in jail for a whole lot there. I
went to jail for that. Yeah, I got my brother
called a case. So I know I'm taking a lot
of time again.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
Cockinge forever you want.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
But why you thinking about that?

Speaker 3 (14:27):
What was Eugene Hanley right here, big you from Prince
Shaw will be right back after this break you did.
Welcome back to Cannabis talking one on one alongside of
me is Mark Washerman, Joe Grande and Eugene Hanley, Big you.

(14:48):
You one of Los Angeles finants for sure and h sir,
continue on your story man about you know, the black
brother getting busted with the smoking weed or.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
No, no, we got what happened was it was in
the process of I was me and my brothers and
were just rolling and he had forgot he had marijuana
in the truck the car. So we get pulled over.
So when we get pulled over, the police they just
making the assumption that they had where was in.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
They call that.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
So the guys like, do I smell marijuana? No, you
don't smell wine. I don't smoke.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
I don't know what you're selling.

Speaker 6 (15:33):
So that's that was the contact point. After they found
the marijuana. So they pulled us out. They asked me
in my own parole, I'm on parole, so I gotta
tell him. So once I tell him pole, now they
can pull me out.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
Mark, No, he didn't have anything. You're searching seizures.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
I'm in the passengers.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
See, you got no rights when when you're on parole
and and your cop comes.

Speaker 6 (15:56):
No, it wasn't. No smell, it wasn't. They just said
that after they found us. They used that as the
grounds to say this. Know they smelled the marijuana was
before now the law change, now, law change, and so
and so what happened is we went to we went
to court. I hired a lawyer, so I'm in, I'm
a parole, Violet my parole and say they found it
in my When I go to my Morris, here the

(16:18):
judge of my Morris is here and is like, well,
was the driver there? Yes? Was he driving the car? Yes?
So why is he here? Because he's he was because
I'm big you, because I was a big you. And
so went from there in the in an attorney, I mean,
the cop uh was being beligious with the judge and

(16:41):
she was like, I don't know if you realize it,
but you are in a real court of law. And
they was going out at beefing watching Oh yes, I'm like.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
She was.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Judges like, who.

Speaker 6 (16:56):
Are you talking to? And so we went through that
press says, to make a long story short, they called
my brother a gang member because he was in the
car with me, right yeah, so profile And so the
judge was like, well, why did you call him a
gang member? Because in this and now we go to
my brother's trial. What a good judge though. I love
the fact that the judges he judge. Let me tell

(17:19):
you what the cop said. This white cop said, he said,
we call all of them gamers. So the judge said,
why he was gonna stand Yeah, hedge said, well, what
if he was in the car with his mother. She'd
be a game member too. The judge almost stood up.
It's the white just the white judge. Wow, he almost living.
He is living, bro, He's a huge judge here. It's

(17:39):
a white judge. He's that white guy. He stands up.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
He's like what.

Speaker 6 (17:43):
Then he calmed himself down. He sits back down and
he says, what do you mean by that? And he's like, well,
their their mothers and fathers help them do crimes. This
is the sorer mothers.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
This is happening in front of you in real life.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Like, I can't make this up, bro.

Speaker 6 (17:59):
They even said I they told them I said I
was a game mamber. I had tattoos. I don't have
a tattoo. So the judges like when when I was
in the standard, just like, do you have any tattoos?
I like not. The judge took over the case. He
basically asking all the questions, said, do you up? I
SUREM not have no tatto.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
Judge starts representing. But it all goes.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
Back to marijuana though. So it all goes back to
Mirra because after they found the marijuana they used, they
used the marijuana to say that was the reason why
they searched the car. They smelled. It hadn't even been opened.
It was still in the pack, it was still sealed.
When they got it, they had to pre like you're

(18:38):
ready to ship, Like like you're ready to ship all
you did not smell this guaranteed guarantee you not like
come on, but I'm just happy you know that California.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
But I'm so drop the case.

Speaker 6 (19:02):
Oh no. So the judge was so livid. The judge
has each had each one of our attorneys right a
dissertation to uh to this case. And and I was
to address the search and seizure part and the contact part.
And before he even let us read ours, the prosecuting

(19:23):
attorney was like, we ain't right nothing. We're just gonna
drop the case. We're gonna let it go. So when
he came back to court, they dropped the whole case
against him and and let it go. It was it
was ridiculous. And but the judge was like, no, we're
not stopping right here. I want to talk to this
this this cop. We want to talk to the cops.
Who's ever over here?

Speaker 5 (19:44):
What do you mean?

Speaker 6 (19:45):
Yeah? We done?

Speaker 4 (19:49):
We could go no hearing.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
I watched we lecture these mother.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
Price jes is hot.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
He was like because he felt like if this was
the mentality just out on the streets from the sergeant
and the lieutenants, what are the guys under.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
I mean, which is out there which we've seen over
and over and over again.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Well that's that's the statement. I tell people.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
A lot of people that didn't grow up in l
a man like I go on a period highway bro
and and cops were were gang bangers, you know what
I mean? Like you you, you, and you say that
you can say that to your mom or some other
elder that doesn't really get it because they weren't there.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
But cops were gang banging.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Back in the day.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
They would literally pull you out a car.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Not even back in the day they still This is
my point though, is that at that time, though the
streets were so rough, is that that they kind of
had to But then it stopped and the streets didn't
get so rough.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
And guess what, the.

Speaker 8 (20:41):
Cops kept gang banging and they kept roll and a
lot of us got like, Okay, we all know who
the crazy cops are. You know, if if if, if,
if all of us are sitting in the car, they're
damn near gonna go why are you rolling.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
With these guys? I mean, Mark's driving.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
In the car. They're looking at us like it's okay,
I'm shutting the funk up.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
Don't ask Mark?

Speaker 8 (21:03):
Is he here?

Speaker 5 (21:04):
Is he with us on his own will? Are you
riding with cat on your own wheel?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
That's the kind of ship they used to do that.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
Yeah, I had girlfriends wife that I was dating happening
to me three times? Are you a ks?

Speaker 7 (21:16):
Like?

Speaker 2 (21:16):
What the fuck do you mean? She's at me?

Speaker 5 (21:20):
Mean she's using me.

Speaker 6 (21:22):
But you know what the problem is, you know what
the answer that is they need to let cops smoke marijuana.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, yeah, man, you're not lying.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
If they had cops, it'd be a whole common police force.
Can you imagine? Yeah, we're fucking around being maybe.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
They start selling everybody here's I mean they kind of
flipping training days. Was no fake movie?

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah no, so so so they dropped that case, you know,
And that's very fortunate that that's a beautiful thing because
it seems like it was on like they're trying to
frame it on you again because you were the guy
on parole and I was.

Speaker 6 (22:03):
I had a bigger name.

Speaker 9 (22:04):
My name holds a lot of ways It's funny, big
you as I hear you say that, and I'm just
curious to would you give a tribute to your success
of changing to reading.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
Malcolm X. Is that first one that you say and
you go in Tello, who really did it? Blue Blue
Little gave you his brother's book.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
I know, Yeah, that's me going, I'm Blue Little.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
That's my real last name. If you don't know. Those
who don't know, that's Malcolm X's real last name. Caps
you know what I'm saying, that's my history.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
It's funny though, because as you say that, I'm a
huge fan of it too, and just knowledge and going
to school getting your degree and things like that. Like
you know, I've always been a proposer. I was the
first of my family to do it. And I look
at it like I've soaked in so much knowledge. The
streets give you a lot of knowledge as well.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
Don't get it twisted. But when you soak up that game.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
That talk that you referred to when you go to
court and you hear these people talking about you and
the way you don't know, you need to soak up
that type of knowledge folks from reading, from learning and
be inspired by a book like Malcolm X, man, dam
if something happens which big U it didn't shake him
up straight Malcolm X after rolling his grave, going the
motherfucker didn't read my.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
Book will enough.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
He took, by any means necessary, to a whole none
of level of it. By that being said, he said,
he went back in and read more, and then he
learned the law, which is crazy and dope, all in
the same factors that resented himself.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
I think it's called mercy.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
That was that that kind of reminds me of the
lawyer and reading it just it's just great knowledge. And
for that's why I was like, would you say you
would attribute the change to reading?

Speaker 6 (23:50):
Definitely without a doubt. That's mama puponed of reading. And
it's not just watch. I've been talking to my kids.
They talking about, well, he got books on if you
read it, you reinforce it once you read it, and
you and you and you read it and you see
those words, they can never take that from you. I
got another story. When I first got to prison, I

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had read the title fifteen what's that? And the title
fifteen is a book that they give you. It's the
book of rules that you can write the police up
for violating and yourself for violating. It's called the title fifteen.
I read the title fifteen and I just memorized what
I needed.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
When you can write them up in prison, are not.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
Prison in prison. So if if you're it's the title
is by which is a book by.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Which it charges on a police officer.

Speaker 6 (24:39):
While you're there, are on yourself. It tells you what
you can what you can't do. It tells you what
you're supposed to have and what you're not supposed to
add I had read the title fifteen, so when I
got there by me being big U. When I got
to the yard, a lot of people gave me a
lot of stuff and they send me TVs. I had
TV or radio, everything, hot pot, but I wasn't supposed
to have all that stuff because I was reception. So

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when the police seen it, got this stuff. So the
police go on my cell. I walked to child and
going to sell it just ramis to sell tatter sell up.
I went and wrote a six oh two, which is
complaint for him from memory. And I wrote the complaint

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for him from just remembering, just from what I had,
and I just dropped it under the my first time
of writing one didn't even know it was gonna work,
and I slid it under the door and we kept
on going back to child. So the next morning, by
the time I came back, they had everything that they
had took but the TV and the radio, because I
wasn't even supposed to have that. But they even gave

(25:43):
me the crock pot back. I wasn't supposed to have
that yet. But they was like, man, we're gonna make
a deal with you. We're gonna give you this back.
And but but that was the point that made me
realize that if you read it, the one thing they
can't do is take that from you. If you played
the game right, They couldn't take that knowledge from me
that I had obtained. They could take me physically, take
my shoes, my clothes, But it was the knowledge I

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had obtained from reading the book that I realized in
that moment that they could not take from me right.
And I've been telling that the kids forever get the
knowledge in the books, get what the information. They can't take.
They could take your life, but they cannot take what
you Your education they can't take.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
And they're still gonna fuck with us because we black
and brown period. And it's gonna happen and we can't
get it. That's why I love the script. But Mark
says it because you know it can fuck with us.
The bad cop is gonna be a bad cop. But
if you know your rules and you know your rights,
you follow the script, you shut the fuck up. You're
gonna get out of this in a better way.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
Period.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
You know, one of my mentors they need.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
To smoke weeds.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, yeah, go from blue to green.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
You know.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
You know, one of the one of my mentors is
it's always told me says, once your mind expands from
its original form, it can never go back.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
And that's exactly what reading does.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
It expands your mind from its original form, so therefore
it cannot go back. It's like writing a Once you
learn how to ride a bike, ninety percent of the
time you could ride a bike, you rest your life.
You know, I might not be as good as riding
that bike, but you sure do remember how to ride.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
That damn bike.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
And so that's the kind of education that you know,
our youth needs to get first and foremost, Yes, and then,
and that's what I've seen you doing. I mean throughout
the years, man, I've you know, I've watched you ever
since you've been out like I've watched you, you know,
spend a large portion of your private personal time to
helping youth. You know what I mean hours, dude, Hours

(27:28):
and hours on the football field, hours and hours at
community centers, hours and hours putting proposals together. I met
up on the you know, with them till three in
the morning, with secretaries on the phone, and we're trying
to put together, you know, proposals for shit. I mean,
this man puts his life out there to help others,
to educate people and give them something that maybe he
possibly didn't have that same.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Direction on so I didn't. Yeah, no, I'm I'm I'm
a big fan of this man.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
Dude. It's funny.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
And for those that's the ex CRYPTS leader, Big you
also known as Eugene Hanley from the belly button name.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
And as you as you go to that right that belly.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
Button name, you cut the cord, baby, that's your name
from the chord, And as you hear all this, even yourself,
and you get to look back and you think of
your own childhood and say, you know, and you just
said it like we didn't have that chance when you
see some of these kids though, so going in the
different direction the ones that you're trying to help that
can't though, how is that message?

Speaker 5 (28:25):
It's got to be so hard, But how do you
try to relate that message? Man? Fuck that big you
we out here doing it?

Speaker 6 (28:31):
Dog?

Speaker 5 (28:31):
Come on?

Speaker 6 (28:31):
You know what I mean? I kind of usually don't
get that. I've seen people get it, get.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Them, give them what.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
You know what I'm talking about right shape the room
because I know you can ground and get big you're
the big bear brother.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
But you know with me, with me, when kids talk
to me, it's kind of hard for him to tell
me because I've been there. Yeah, and so so what
kids tend to do? What I see when people reaching
out to kids and they mind, they thinking he ain't
never struggled, not But for me, they know I struggled.
Because it's the information age. So before we walk through

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a room, they already know everything about you. There is
a no the in and they're gonna tell him everything
about you, answer some extra stuff that it really ain't true,
so you know, but it ain't that really so they
So with me is different because I mean I can
tell a kid I've been hungry, I've been chased, I've
been under cars, I've been shot. I'm shot seven different times,
you know what I mean. So it's like, I know

(29:29):
what you're going through, and I'm where you need to
get to. I'm where you're trying to get to. So
let me help you get to it, because I need
to find out what's going on with you, what's really
bothering you, And you need to understand because what I
had a kid today I was talking to and his
problem with his father and his mother is that he
gotta do too much. I gotta clean up, I gotta

(29:49):
do this thing. I do that. I'm ready to leave home,
and I'm said, I guess what's gonna happen. You're gonna
leave home. You're gonna be going to your parting house
for two weeks, three weeks. They're gonna get tired of
you be in there. You gonna do all the cleaning
up your home. We're gonna figure out gotta clean up
to stay here. He ain't gonna have to clean up.
You have to clean up. But then when you get there,
if it's a real structured house, you're gonna have to
do homework, the same thing you're running for at home. So,

(30:13):
and I'm telling these kids because right now I have
a real problem in my community where kids don't have
nowhere to go. They remind me of me. So now
I'm buying hotels at night. I'm trying to get these
kids somewhere to stay because I can't let them sleep
in my store all night, every night, you know what
I mean. So I got sometime I let him sleep
in the store. Sometime I'm like, man, listen, I gotta

(30:35):
go home, you know what I mean. And it's real.
It's like right now today today, I'm talking about today.
I don't got enough money to help every kid that
needs somewhere to sleep, because then they'll figure out when
uncle give us some money to go get some one
to sleep. I get one room, you know what I mean.
I'm like, look, if the room's tore up, if y'all
mess this room up, I ain't gonna get your number

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room no more, you know what I mean. And then
I got to get them to school right so, and
then it's like if they get kicked out the house,
I figured it's a four day window before the pearents
ready to let him come back, you know what I mean.
The average about a four day window, and I got
to keep him alive or keep him out of trouble
within that four days, you know what I mean. So
I'll be looking at that.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Good analogy is if you get if you get arrested,
you're gonna be cleaning.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
Yourself, let alone.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
If these cats go on and you get your Okay,
let's just say you got a job and it's a
blessing and you start getting your own apartment. Guess what
you got to do with got an apartment. You gotta
clean up your everything. You gotta pay the fucking bills
that you are paying. It's so crazy, the mindset of
that young kid who don't even get it young they're
still young.

Speaker 6 (31:42):
But Blue has a maid? Why blue, Blue has a made? Blue?

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Don't you don't do nothing he has made?

Speaker 6 (31:52):
Not has it made? Has a maid as a maid?

Speaker 4 (31:55):
You know all of us do in south Thorne County.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
My maid was in the house.

Speaker 6 (32:02):
I was like, here's not all of us has a maid.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
Let me take this my pinky up right now.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
There's a point in your life where you realize your
time is more valuable as well. Though, if you get
to that that level of freedom, there's a there's a
more valuable space and time for what you need to do.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Not that you don't clean your own ass, but you know.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
Community. Hold on the second he's on the phone.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Over and Biggie, what what are you doing now in
the cannabis community in the space.

Speaker 6 (32:39):
Well, we creating some brands. I'm creating some brands. I've
really been looking at a lot as hemp because I
like the way himp does for the body, CBD products,
CBD products, So I mean, that's great way we start. Yeah,
and we're coming out with a whole another crunch our brand.
I'm spelled to doing something with blue and I got
a copor people that's doing that, so I like it myself.
I don't I don't actually consume anything. I don't eat meat,

(33:01):
I don't, I don't e meet, I don't take nothing.
I'll smoke on drinking. I'll do nothing.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
It's a lot of eating.

Speaker 6 (33:09):
They tried to years.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
He's like, I'm good, bro, what about the edible.

Speaker 6 (33:18):
Now? I made a deal with my mother met a
long time ago.

Speaker 7 (33:20):
Man.

Speaker 6 (33:20):
I wouldn't get no tattoos. I wouldn't. I wouldn't use drugs.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
But I beat the ship out of people in Wait
a minute, that's where I went to go learn it
at my mom's paid for karate.

Speaker 6 (33:31):
Like you got sisters, you got to learn.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
You got to protect them all today from these motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Too, and me and me and me and this managed road.
I've seen these two roll. You know what I mean.
I almost took them. I almost took you down one
day at Wis Kalifa's video shoot. I almost had you
on the ground.

Speaker 6 (33:46):
Yeah you a text from the.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
I don't get that. That's a terrible joke.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
I literally went to take him down though. I was like,
I'm taking this little down and then I ended up
with a stiff neck for three days.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
I was wrong.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Everybody was looking at me like what.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
So d he didn't just engage with the CBD tinksters
oils and rubs.

Speaker 6 (34:12):
And smoke, Like yeah, yeah, and you'll fuck.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
With the hempen h. That's funny.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
That's exactly what I do. I don't do, and I
think THC. I've been so over twenty two plus years,
no alcohol, no drugs at all, so it's like I
only do exactly what that is. I'm drinking this new
CBD drink which is called kill Cliff strictly CBD all this.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
Type of stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
I find it so much better for the body, and
especially guys like guys that are so fucking.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
Big that you know what I mean, we need it.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah, it's just be too big for the body. It's like, okay,
I can't be living like that. So what made you
though lean towards that.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
Well, just really just studying it. It was it was
so many laws that was changing to California, and then
I already always felt that let me tell you this,
I don't know if I can say that, say whatever you.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Want to want.

Speaker 6 (34:57):
Okay, Well, in prison, the only thing that kept the
animals calm come was marijuana. So they needed That's what
I'm saying about the cops need marijuana.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Isn't that crazy thing?

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Because they got weed in fucking prison, And yet all
the ship.

Speaker 6 (35:14):
It starts with that.

Speaker 7 (35:15):
In the car, I smell weed and then we're gonna
put you in jail where you can smoke weeds.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
And it's just nuts to think how the system really
works because you're thinking, oh my god, there's more anecdotal
evidence right there, and now big us running with the
anecdotal evidence saying cannabis works best when you're in prison
for the crazies, right, And that type of evidence though,

(35:39):
is like, you know, hence the CBE goals. When are
more people are gonna realize that one of the cops
gonna realize it the government that they fuck it.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
It's working here. It's work because it's his face it.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
It's not like they can use that anecdotal evidence to
say it's really working well in prison, but it is.

Speaker 5 (35:59):
And Bigue, how do you think or do you know
or can you tell?

Speaker 4 (36:03):
How did that cannabis get into prison? Is it strictly
the guards? Is it straight up tennis ball?

Speaker 6 (36:08):
Everybody's over there. I deny, Shut.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
The fuck up.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
Come on, you didn't really ask.

Speaker 6 (36:14):
That all things I deny. I just say that they
need it. And that's the reason why I'm in this
field because I see the common effect of how I mean,
I mean, I don't know the healing point, but I know, Devin,
sometimes some people needs it.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
You know what, There's so much I need it.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
I need it, needs it needs it. They need it.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
I've had two hip surgeries.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
I have this bad ankle right and after the two
hip surgeries, I tore my labors. They had to slice
my IT band up to put it in there to
replace my labors, which then gave me fucking arthritis. So
now I'm, you know, forty eight years old walking with
this limp. All the time before I started using CB,
my pain would be you know, seven to eight level
from a one to ten, and it's dropped down to

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like a good four, five, six when it gets cold.
So my point is, I see how it's helped me
at quote unquote a younger age of forty eight. But
look at that sixty year old woman and.

Speaker 6 (37:17):
Sl Renald man who really can use.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
Some help, probably than popping all these pills and going,
you know what, I'm taking all this fucking medication you
seventy yeah, on my liver.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
My old sert, my gut, everything else.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
And it's like you got this organic natural way.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
So there's so much ready for me to hold that thought. Man,
this Cannabis Talk one on one, we'll be right back
with Big You.

Speaker 7 (37:46):
Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one on one. We are
here with Blue, Joe Grande and Big You. Yes, and
you know we got to give our special thanks to Pitt,
Peanut and Gen Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
I love those three girls.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
You cut me, you cut me off.

Speaker 7 (38:05):
I think Elvis, he's trying to cut I love those
four girls, ladies, all four of them.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Around here.

Speaker 7 (38:15):
All right, it's the time of the show where we're
going to get into the high five with Big U.

Speaker 6 (38:20):
Yes, all right, jokes.

Speaker 5 (38:23):
Question number one, Big U, here you go. How old
are you the first time you smoked weed? And where
did you get it from?

Speaker 2 (38:32):
First time?

Speaker 6 (38:32):
Uh? Maybe nine?

Speaker 4 (38:36):
Look at that thought processity nine? There was nine?

Speaker 2 (38:41):
And where at.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
I had. I had a family friend. She used to
sell marijuana, and we was that she lived across from
the elementary school. So when she would leave, she would
just give us the bags to hold, like when certain
people come by, hooking them up. And then we didn't
really know what size. She just knew what bags, right,
so we knew because that's back then, it's just selling
them by sticks. Yeah, so you just get the stick

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out of this was This was a one dollar one
and this one was a was a fire out of stick.
We knew there was either one of five.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
So you picked the one of the fire stick up.

Speaker 6 (39:13):
And then no, we just my my cousin, my older
cousin used to take them and split them and then
take something out and roll it up. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Nice that was what you got your first one, and
it was like the same thing to me.

Speaker 6 (39:28):
It was the same high as the first cigarette. Yeah,
it was like the first cigarette.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
Yeah, that's like a good early age. So you're nine exactly.
That's what point is that you don't know?

Speaker 6 (39:39):
You know, it was like this, all right?

Speaker 7 (39:42):
Question number two of the High five, what is your
favorite way to use cannabis.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
When you smoke? I don't smoke, but when you did.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
My favorite way to use it from my hand to
their hand and their money back.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Cas down. No one's giving that answer.

Speaker 6 (40:08):
I think we have to close down the High five.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
We're done retired.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
There ain't not one person, that's not one person that
met a hustler up here like that, god sobolute shot
was brilliant, well said, he said, from my hand to
the other hand, back to my.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
Hand with my hat.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Fantastical. Question number three of the High five with Big U.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Craziest place you've ever used or smoked cannabis or sold
it or sold it?

Speaker 6 (40:36):
How about that state prison?

Speaker 5 (40:41):
That's another fucking first.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
That's another first.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
There ain't too many cats that we've been on that
since state.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Not nobody body that said state prison.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
That is was it decent weed?

Speaker 6 (40:54):
I had the decent weed for the people who was
just coming in because they still have money. And then
the ones who've been in there you just whatever. It's
always a story with that because like guys who were
in prison already, they have to you know, the connection
to the streets is kind of waned away. So they

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going they calling home telling them I'm gonna get killed
if I are. They it's come with us, and so
it's but you got the guy who was fresh in
already got you say, the.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Real packs for them they got because they already got
cash on them.

Speaker 6 (41:27):
The got connection.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Then they after a couple of years, people a couple.

Speaker 6 (41:34):
Of years then they dropped off to you got to
get the new ones, right, hustle.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Right, that's good games, Just to know right there before
the high five?

Speaker 5 (41:44):
What is your big you go ahead?

Speaker 7 (41:49):
What what is your coat to munchies when you get
when you got high?

Speaker 2 (41:54):
What's your go to munchies when you got high?

Speaker 6 (41:57):
Chips? Man, I don't know my go too much? Ships? God,
damn big right now?

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Or just it's funny because I'm so Mexican that everything
I eat needs to have a corn ship with it.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Everything that's what that's what. Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
It's a flavored corn ship.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
Everything needs a corn you I don't care what I mean.
And I'm like, rise, put a little chip perfect.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
That makes it good for me? Chips with everything. Question
number five on the high five. If you can smoke
with anyone big you dead or alive, who would you
smoke with.

Speaker 6 (42:39):
Snoop?

Speaker 5 (42:41):
You ain't smoked with Snoop?

Speaker 6 (42:44):
What he did if I was would be Snoop we heard.
But I'm scared of Snoop though, because I've been in
there with Snoop smoke and it's like they don't smoke.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah they have.

Speaker 6 (42:55):
You ever seen have you ever been this with Snoop?

Speaker 4 (42:57):
And I've actually been in with Snoop the bishop and
if you ever can you had that experience.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
I've actually had that experience.

Speaker 6 (43:06):
I've sit there and watched him like everybody's rolling up
and then people walking through the door and pulling out
their kind. He walking out putting his kind, he putting
and everybody's putting out in the room. Is like and
I'm sitting like I'm sitting like I'm trying to be
that the lowers I can get to.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
Get fresh air.

Speaker 6 (43:26):
I'm trying. I'm sitting lower and I'm watching snoop, big homie.
You sure you don't want to try this? Now, I'm
good that will be the only sober person in this room.
In the room. But let me tell you when I
did get high. I just turned eighteen, and I think
it was it was Michael Spinks and Larry horm fight.

(43:51):
I'm in Seattle. Now, you guys, remember this is this
is eighty nine, eighty nine, ninety right, this is when
we Seattle, so we bring in the real back then,
six thousand pounds folk down the pound, remember back then?
So I fuck it was here, am out of tailing
me smoke, bro. Michael Spinx was hidding Larry Holmes in

(44:14):
the head and I was staying like damn, like he
ain't moving his head, bro, like punching them like like move.
And I'm sitting there on the couch and it's like
I'm trying to say, did I say that yet?

Speaker 5 (44:29):
Right? Why am I discompopulated totally?

Speaker 6 (44:34):
And I'm trying to remember, right, And I'm having a
conversation and I'm trying to remember, like.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Did I did you really say that?

Speaker 6 (44:41):
I said, you know when I'm talking, I'm trying to
people moving. I'm thinking, like this ain't cool, right, how
do I get unlike this? Right?

Speaker 5 (44:52):
Like this?

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Unlike it?

Speaker 5 (44:55):
You need milk her cookies too, but we do.

Speaker 6 (45:00):
Everybody's like, that's the ultimate one. You're gonna be chasing
that forever. I'm like, no, I'm not.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
I was. Lord knows, I was chasing it forever. I
need to get.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
That's why I need to get sober, because exactly what
you just said, I was chasing that high.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
Oh that's a good line. It's a terrible line. There's
many lines. I can't say lines again.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Oh my god, breaking out in the sweat.

Speaker 5 (45:26):
You know.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
It's actually it's funny because you know, a lot of
people get get caught into the high and and don't
really enjoy it anymore. I think I think there's some
people that are just you know, getting high to get high,
versus like, you know, there's a time I think when
when I was getting high, that I was just getting
high to get high every single day, and I was smoking, smoking,
and finally, you know, I just was like at this point,
I'm like, I'm just not one hundred when I'm when

(45:48):
I'm getting high, like I don't have that focus. I
can't get as many things done. I missed too I
stumbled too much. And there's people like this guy right here.
He smokes all freaking day and he doesn't even stop, so.

Speaker 7 (46:00):
He won't live survived here.

Speaker 5 (46:04):
He's already consumed more than most people doing a week head.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
More than most people do. You know?

Speaker 7 (46:11):
Those doctors wanted to give me riddling and all sorts
of ship over the years.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
And you still should know. They need this ship.

Speaker 6 (46:19):
What was it?

Speaker 5 (46:20):
What was the word?

Speaker 6 (46:20):
He needs it?

Speaker 2 (46:21):
What was it?

Speaker 5 (46:25):
Man?

Speaker 3 (46:25):
They gotta have it like it's different. So, but it's
great to have you on the show, Big you.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
You know.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
One of the things I want to tell you that
you know also admired from you before we get out
of here, is you know all the different celebrities and
and people that you've influenced to to be out there
and do the right thing and have the ability to
be successful and and just kind of been behind a
lot of these art artists and again, Man, the kids
and the things that you've done for the city of
Los Angeles and just in other cities and states as well,

(46:52):
but specifically for Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Man, keep up the.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Good work before we get out, Is there anything you
want to plug or talk about?

Speaker 2 (46:58):
And and uh before we check out?

Speaker 6 (47:00):
Well, then, like I said, I got an app coming
out documentary. Oh the documentary. Yeah, I'm doing a documentary
with with f X. It's one of the biggest documentaries
just coming out since Dtor Dre and Jimmy Ivian was
so yeah, we got one. That's a six part f
X already paid for, fully paid for, a really big budget.

(47:21):
So it's me, Jimmy Hinchman. Uh, you're gonna hear Jimmy
Hits talking about him and Park sounds like the first
time being me walking Flocker mother has uh russ and
the mother.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Oh man, she got a story.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
I didn't don't know her story.

Speaker 6 (47:38):
She got the number one story in the documentary.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
You said that no joke, but it's hard. I kind
of like walking he comes with.

Speaker 6 (47:50):
No when you see this talking about his mama. Great
is the one jat multiple times? Wow, damn it? Oh
tis her story is so much, so much more interest

(48:10):
and did by leader don't mean that, bro, I'm telling
you she did all that. She not cris but she hustled.
She she hustled.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
She was doing everything like you're like, Okay, you're doing
your thing like I did my thing, but you did
some more things.

Speaker 6 (48:30):
But she was doing it from a point of view
of a woman though, yeah, like her whole family from
like her story is gonna be amazing, bro, Like.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
Okay, who else did it? Okay, now you got me
so puppy. That's why I was like, walk a flock.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
His mother like doesn't get that as much press as
I feel like he should be getting to get.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
It and drop it my son mother.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
But now that I remember seeing some ship on him,
his mom was pushing a lot of stuff that he
was doing.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
And I didn't know she had a story.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Like like what you're claiming, But I felt his mama's
presence of just major support and and down.

Speaker 6 (49:06):
But she but look she she was. She was behind
Ludacris first, Nicki Minaj. Yes, she had nick Ludacris, Nicki Mina. Yes,
she had what was another boy named from Atlanta, Big
Boy Killer Mike Dark Skinned of Tall beefing with Giz

(49:30):
Beefing Rick Ross No, uh beef not dof he beefing
with Gez Him and Ju used to be part of.
She had Gucci. Yeah, Oh she got in the maid
bro her story is.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
Oh, so she earns her paper, then she did.

Speaker 6 (49:48):
Yes, that's what Walker came after that, all that she
already had done, all them like her name, her name
of people she's touched and really managing dealt with in
the industry.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
So well then too, I mean he had a good run.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
He yeah, it was making He was fucking millions on
the roads, just like you know other big carew up.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
With all these people around there.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
And then he learned how to make his underground name
and book shows and make money.

Speaker 6 (50:15):
So we got her, we got Jimmy Hinsman. Her story,
like I said, her story is gonna be. Her story
is gonna kind of trump everybody the mines only goes
back to mines is more like the streets. And then
the fact that I've been in music since nineteen eighty five.
My first artist was was papul o Q Lakwan and
did from there corrupt, Nick Going and Nipsey and all
the rest of them. So it talks about that, and

(50:38):
we got Who's we got rusids, and we've got Mike
Tyson on it, we got we got a whole.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Plunker on does this production start, Jerry.

Speaker 6 (50:46):
We're actually shooting. We're actually shooting today. We we finished
like the first four episodes, the six episodes, and like
we've been all over. We went everywhere. We've been to Europe,
We've been to satchral Pay. We've been too good. They
supposed to want to Africa to finish some shots, so
we've been everywhere.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
Talk about that.

Speaker 6 (51:06):
As you dropped like an eight million, I want to.

Speaker 5 (51:08):
Get back to you, Bill big Yu before we let
you go.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
You just reminded me talk because maybe cats don't know
how did you meet Nipsey and how did that relationship
come about?

Speaker 5 (51:17):
Where you started working with them? Break us down there.

Speaker 6 (51:20):
With Nipsey, we all grew up from the same neighborhood.
Nipsey is like my baby homeboy, like he like maybe
seven eight generations under me in an arcade of roll
the sixties and the crips. So when I when I
came home, I was dealing with Sug first. So in
dealing with Sug, I went through that learning you know,
I went. I went from Harry Go first and learned

(51:41):
dealing with Harry in prison. I was on yard with
Herrio for two years. Then I come home to deal
with Sug and it's like hearing both of them talk
about each other.

Speaker 5 (51:50):
Was just funny.

Speaker 6 (51:51):
He was funny.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
And if you don't know who and and and Sugar,
they were bloods from you knowerent.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
Running side Big the Big, the big leaders of.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Both the Christan and the Blozzy to talk E, this
is what we have to do.

Speaker 6 (52:04):
So dealing with both of them. Then coming home and
like I said, just when I my time with Sure
get ran out and it was time for me to
find another artist. So that's when I went to my
neighborhood to start looking for artists. And I was kind
of like, you know, acting around, and my nephew told
me about this young cat named Nipsey, So I went
to go looking for him. So when I found him,

(52:26):
he played me some music. He played me bullets ain't
got no name, Like this ship is hard, and I'm like,
what can we do? And so we kind of started moving.
I shift through a bunch of the artists and then
the story kind of goes from there. We moved on.
I couldn't really get in the industry because my name
was so ominous, Like I could even get on a
big boy talk show. Want to get on show? Yeah,

(52:54):
but you know they wouldn't know they went never be
on the show. I seen Fuzzy one time. Do you
even know who I was? And uh was playing possum
hunh know. I knew who he was, but I really didn't.

(53:15):
I really didn't know them at time, but I knew
somebody told me he was and I'm talking to him
and he's like, yeah, yeah, you got a new artist. Okay, bro,
we'll figured out. Then I say I'm big you.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
He's like.

Speaker 6 (53:28):
Change, So I don't know we can do. That's like
to back up, like, but you know, Fuzzy my boy,
but it was like that wasped his finest right there. Yeah,
that's how hard it was to be big you trying
to move in the industry. So that's what forced me
to go get Steve Lobel.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
Yeah, shout out to Steve Man love Steve's been doing
that ship, bro.

Speaker 5 (53:47):
I love Steve back with the licks.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
My guy.

Speaker 5 (53:49):
He's a music guy doing ship for years.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
And my brother, if you see him, tell Joe Grid
because I remember him for way back in the day.
And just this, you know white Cat that you just
don't know who's so incited the hip hop game.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
Look at this guy, but a hip hop guy.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
You're like, this guy's hip hop and like, no, motherfucker,
like that's hip hop hip hop.

Speaker 5 (54:12):
He'll get you somewhere hip hop.

Speaker 6 (54:14):
So that's when I went and got Steve so because
it was so hard for me. So I'm like, let
me go get Steve. Somebody there and my wife sister,
my wife's niece was married to Steve, so I already.
That's how I knew Steve from her, and she's always
telling me about him. So I met him. I met
him at a concert and I introduced myself and then

(54:37):
we kind of went from there and I'm like, yeah, man,
I have a new artist. Man, I want you to
help me with him. And we started moving and Steve
brought like China, a deal in China, dealing in Japan.
He brought John Sapiro, which we eventually signed to Cinematic
Music Group, and from there it just took off and

(54:58):
then we're on the road. I left right after that
because I got to put it in come on some
other stuff, and so I was like, man, I'm cool
on this for a second. And that's when I was like, yeah, okay,
you gotta wake up. You know, like you you tripped
out playing and we need you yeah here, so you know,

(55:20):
and then it goes like because people you slide sometimes,
you know what I mean. And so I kind of
I left it long and I had to refocus my
life and myself and that's when like, that's my second
life back really where I just didn't do nothing else
bus sports football, and I was like, and I focused
on that team I was talking about that's in college,
right huh, that one and the young casters in college

(55:41):
right now, And it was only with them every single day,
every day nothing.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
What a big fucking changeing you something like that, and
it's got to make you feel and think like I
wonder how many more if I can or what's this
group just.

Speaker 5 (55:51):
That special charge?

Speaker 4 (55:53):
And I think it's a combination of all but the
influence of doing something like that and even gives you
It makes me think God's got.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
Bigger purpose for you even here, right Like damn dude.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
I act said all the time, Man, I see so
many people dying and some people were going and I'm
thinking like, wow, so with all these kids, man, you
know what I mean. So but I mean, you know,
I can boast this that with develop an Option, which
is my company over the last fifteen years that I've
been doing these contracts with the Mayor's office, we have
gotten the gang vinus down almost forty percent. Like we

(56:24):
are in a different place than we were, especially with
Red and Blue in the music industry and in the
streets of LA So the violence is down so much
lower than it was before I start doing this work,
and I really want to take it across the country,
take it other place, just the develop an option apartment,
because the difference of what we do is this, we

(56:46):
give big homies who are influencials in those neighborhoods the
ability to go out and work and concentrate on doing
that work, like they don't have to go they don't
have to go to work and then come back and
doing their job. They in the hood and being apresent
representative hood and represented. And then you know, we we
like you want to get the ones who really got

(57:09):
the real hard to do it, because it's the ones
that it's something out there that really want to help
their community, want to see that community thrive. Because before
I came home and we created the brand to Crenchall brand,
it was we didn't we we made Crenshaw something different,
not than just us. But the brand was already going
because people were familiar with the Moesha Boys and hood all.

(57:31):
But we made the brand a more accessible brand, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (57:37):
It was like a real brand.

Speaker 6 (57:38):
Yeah, and we took it different. And so what I
wanted to do was tease my home was how to
own their own. So when I came home out of prison,
I don't I don't want to say his name wrong,
but Myles see tongue, I hope I'm seeing it right.
It was was kind of like my my, my mentor Syeah.
And I felt like we needed to come back and
love ourselves. So we needed to create brands that people

(58:01):
would love. And what's funny is people don't know Nipsey
never went to Krinshaw. He never went to Krishaw. I
went to christ to Hamilton. He went to Hamilton. He
went to Hamilton. And so what I was telling him
what was when I was teaching him and telling him,

(58:22):
little bro, you're gonna take the hood to a whole
nother level. And he got it. And when I left,
he took it and he kept kept going with the brand,
with the brand, you know what I mean, and created
his own thing. Yeah, yeah, he was phenomenal. Man. He
he he's gonna do more for us and his going

(58:44):
than than probably he would have did if he had
went longer, because so many kids can see his example
and so many and they have affirmed his words and
his intelligence and and and and talking about businesses and
becoming entrepreneurs and doing for self and and putting himself from.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
Being a self made and coming out the ghetto. You
can do it type.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Yeah, buying in the hood exactly like that ship like
that from the hood.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
It was key.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
And like you said, people wouldn't know that ship and
if you wouldn't pass because that the message that got
sent because of his passing.

Speaker 6 (59:18):
Right and and and and and that's the only thing
that that that that makes me be able to deal
with the comfort of it, like like because it was
so tragic and the way it happened and how the
whole world seen it, and it was something that you know,
everywhere I go people ask me that and this and
this it was And they asked me how come it

(59:39):
was so big, because I don't think people have ever
seen an artist of that magnitude. Past we heard about
pot dying, We heard about Biggie dying. We heard about,
but you didn't actually see it. You want that you
didn't have to see it. He was just up for
a Grammy. He was just you know, doing a TV
special for news. So it was something that was transcended,

(01:00:02):
and you got people who never seen a person actually
and from life from.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
The hood, like you know l A represented coming through.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
He was a good kid and he was just going exactly,
just going in that direction changing.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
Damn near your images on a crip exactly. Hold on,
this is the way the crips A is doing. What
in the neighborhood? You're doing what for people?

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
Why do I think this about changing?

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
I'm saying he was changing.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
Okay, you got some tattoos that you can see from
just looking at his face, But damn, that don't mean
he's fucking gonna punch you or slap your stair.

Speaker 6 (01:00:38):
At time, he was, he was a proper He was
a perfect one. He was charismatic, good looking, intelligent. Yeah,
now you let's do a little better. Snoop, snoop. That
was my guy.

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
Anyway.

Speaker 6 (01:00:52):
No, but but but it was so hurtful because of
he was the perfect one and when I chosen, when
I chose to put my money, time and energy behind him.
I was looking at all of that like I've more
seen it. Yeah, I've seen that televice because I had
to choose who I was gonna put on, you know

(01:01:12):
what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
And that's your pocket that you're putting it.

Speaker 6 (01:01:14):
Was my pocket, was my money. And when his brother,
when his brother went to jail, he lived with me.
He lived in my condos, in the back and forth.
And so I seen it, you know what I mean,
And I and everybody else got a chance to see
it before he passed, and that's the good thing, and
didn't even after he passed. Now people see it. So

(01:01:34):
every time I see this as a highlight of my life
to be able to say that I was a part
of it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
A lot of people thank you for doing what you
did there because a lot of people, probably I didn't
even know that story. So that I'm thinking you personally,
because for you to put that money and time in
artist like.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
This like that, we'll have to do part too.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
I want to touch real quick on something else that's
kind of a street related and how did you deal
with and how have you been dealing with I mean,
you're not thinking leader of the Crypts anymore, but you
got a heavy hand and influencing with everybody with that
Black Lives Matter movement on.

Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
Let's not all fucking go over there and burn everything
up and take it all anyways, I felt like I
seen cats and Long Beach.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
It was some crypts and Long Beach for instance, they
stood out on one streets.

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
Hey, motherfuckers, you fly some Long Beach. No, they get
the fuck out of here.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
I seen some crips, and there were crips at the
time still stand up where something like it was another
example of what crips do for their neighborhood.

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
That are good.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
My point is with you, big, you being the ex
leader of the cryps, how have you had to deal with?

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
What have you had to deal with? And what are
you doing?

Speaker 6 (01:02:37):
Well, I'm not an ex leader of Chris.

Speaker 5 (01:02:38):
Well, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
I was waiting for something like that.

Speaker 6 (01:02:45):
No, I'm not lead. It's no leader of the christ period,
but but I know what you're saying. So No, my
whole thing on the Black Lives Matter movement is that
is about time. It's overdue and this country still doesn't
get it. And I'm not talking to and I did.

(01:03:05):
I did an interview and I was telling them that
it's needed. Sometimes you gotta burn it down sometimes, but
don't burn your home down, you know. But sometimes because
we have March though.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
That's the last time I ate.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Like during the Rodneyney King, it was right at home.
It was right in the mix of everything.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
You know. Now it's it's a little different, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
It's a little different. It's a little different only in
the fact that if we want to be realistic, it's
different only because we have a virus just keeping everybody
at home and TV's on. If we did not have
this virus, it will be going over people's heads. But
because it's happening in this time, and we have the
greatest president in the world, Donald Trump, This dumb motherfucker.

(01:03:52):
You hey, look, let me tell you. Let me tell
you why. Let me tell you why Donald Trump is
great for us. Tell you why it's great for us
because he zach. Because before Donald Trump, there was never
black gang members, Hispanic gang members all concerned about politics.

(01:04:14):
We have never been this seke never he is. This
guy is the best thing that is that could have
happened to African Americans. And look, not only are we
becoming conscious of political I mean of the president politicies,
we become conscious of of of inner city politics. We
needed Donald Trump at this time because Obama put us

(01:04:38):
to sleep. Obama willed us to sleep.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
Kept it cool, and that it was like the voice
was there. You finally got that voice, so it's had
somebody to vote in.

Speaker 6 (01:04:51):
It was a false sense of reality that we needed
Trump to come back and say no, motherfucker.

Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
No, that's a great point.

Speaker 6 (01:04:59):
No, And that's why I'm saying for us, for for
for for men from the inner city, of of these
these different populacis. We needed him, right, We need him
to scare the shut up and say, look, grow the
fuck up, grow up.

Speaker 5 (01:05:14):
Right, that's real spec cats out there acting like are
running their mouths and saying something, well this motherfucker.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
Well, then guess what you need to do with November,
and guess what you need to do before November, because
by the time it gets to November it might be
too fucking Especially if you want cannabis in your city
and you want that, you got to be voting in early,
you know, juwis July, all these times you got to
be voting for your mayors, you're all these other fucking
things that guys focus and wake up.

Speaker 5 (01:05:39):
I agree one thousand percent.

Speaker 6 (01:05:41):
Yeah. But and that's the thing too that we we
we forget that the most touching part of us in
our community is your mayors, your city councils, your your governors.
Those are the people who affect you because they affect
your actual finances. Right, That's that's what people are missing.
It's really not the president because he deal with the

(01:06:03):
federal money. It's the mayor. Is to actually start with
your governor, who are you electing to be your governor?
And then it goes down from here because the governor
can really say what the president is saying, and even
city start with.

Speaker 5 (01:06:17):
Your local city mayor as well. Look what look into
what your city mayors.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
It's being clear through this process because some of them
were like, f you, this is what we're doing. And
it's starting to happen more often than not, because you know,
you're like can you do that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Can our state do that? You know, you're starting to
question all questions.

Speaker 6 (01:06:34):
We got Hitler, and we got Hitler in the United States.
President I don't like that.

Speaker 7 (01:06:41):
Trump, I don't look.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
Over here, like, don't say was nervous.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
He's a washerman.

Speaker 6 (01:06:53):
But he coming for us though, so we and he's
really coming for the Brown brothers. Hey look like I
tell people time that motherfuckers ate off here, looked to
the to the to the minority community.

Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
No, you know, it's not like anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
We just we just had it. We just did yesterday.
We did. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
There was a survey that came out on on La
Times or something or or California News or something, and
his brother had it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
So I don't have the paper in front of me.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Forty two percent higher rate of Hispanic Americans are arrested.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
For drug It's the highest for Canada, highest in the world,
in California, the United the United States States.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
In the United States, forty two percent more than any
other race.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
Hispanics are well, I think it was forty two percent,
which not forty percent more.

Speaker 5 (01:07:35):
It was forty two percent.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
The African Americans were like thirty two percent. White America
it was thirty one percent, but it was still more.
And I believe those are pretty accurate. Thirty one, thirty two, forty.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Yes, so it was like forty thirty and then and
then so on.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
So, but but that was shocking to me, you know
what I mean, Like I already know that, but there's
a lot in my opinion that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
Latin to get it. They well lagin blacks whoy kid
has been like.

Speaker 6 (01:07:58):
Just Trump Trump Villa.

Speaker 10 (01:08:01):
I'm gonna say, but the percentage of how many blacks
there are versus Hispanics, whites and Hispanics, so the percentage
of twenty percent way higher people because there's less and
there's way more white.

Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
So it's gonna right.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
The numbers aren't real saying that, but this still shows
that there's big numbers, and with those numbers it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Can equal out and it might even over over Trumpet
like Trump.

Speaker 5 (01:08:26):
That's because you said that to me, don't you don't you.

Speaker 6 (01:08:27):
Know, but you guys don't realize it's a bigger push
coming though. I don't think people. I don't think people
realize it's a bigger push coming because what Trump is
trying to do is so major because he's demilitized. He's
demilitarizing the United States around the globe and pulling back
the United States forces around the globe. So people don't hear, no, no, no, no,

(01:08:51):
Well he's demilitizing, so he's he's lessening the power of
the United States troops. Wow, China in Russia are pushing
their strengthen in there. And then this man is talking
about who has had collusion talks with the Russians in
the Chinese saying that if he loses, he not leaving office,

(01:09:14):
but everything they have done up to now is questionable,
and dealing with these a question about dealing with these people.
So there's a bigger discussion to be had if you
just study the pattern of what Trump is doing or
attempting to do.

Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
He's fucking crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:09:32):
Well, well, he has a lot of people behind him
that's moving. So you have to be conscious of what's
going on. And if we talk about tell people at
the time, if you talking about you want change, what
does change look like? Change looks like some people are
not going to be rich no more. Some people are
not gonna be middle class anymore. Some people are gonna
come down to where we are struggling every day. Most

(01:09:52):
of us are a car accident away from the poorhouse,
you know what I mean. And in this, in this,
in this a forest for us not to recognize what's
going on in the federal government, because you got you
have local government, then you have federal government right that
controls your own forces. That's what Donald Trump has the

(01:10:13):
ability to send people in and he can say this
is this, this is not. So it's a bigger picture.
I don't know where it's going, but it's just.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
Stuff that it can go to the next And the
funny thing is is we've always said it is you know,
I've always said it. You can take all of us,
and not all of us, but you can take some
of some of the people that we know and the
people we run with, and you could drop all the
bombs you want and drip all the things out and
we're gonna be just fined.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
We're gonna thrive, which is but there's a lot of
folks that it's not that that aren't that are.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Gonna come down to this level and they're just gonna
be like, whoa, You're gonna start working for a whole
new civilization that you can.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
And just grind and you know what, that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
You haven't had to been through that, and I'd hate
to see our country have to go through that again.
But there's a small part of me that wants to
believe that they're trying to start it all over again.
They're trying to start it all over again. You know,
you better believe that that's exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
We're going to lose homes and and people.

Speaker 6 (01:11:07):
Are going to lose the drug the man is saying it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Yeah, saying it gonna have drugs are going to have
an all time high again.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
You know, prostitution, everything's going to re evolve and and
so there's gonna be a rude awakening for a lot
of people, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
What I mean, they didn't grow up and likes the
prostitution parties and bring that back.

Speaker 6 (01:11:27):
It should all be legal, it should all be illegal.

Speaker 7 (01:11:30):
And you know, I actually I think there's a connection
Pop Brothers at Law and Big U if I get
this right. About a year ago, uh, we were contacted
by a manager, a guy named Bon Prescott, and he
said he learned about us from Big U, just saying

(01:11:51):
and that's how he can.

Speaker 6 (01:11:53):
Did you tell.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
Bring about the Pop art? Do you not remember that?

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
Because you didn't look like you're by the look on
your face blue, that's what That's what.

Speaker 5 (01:12:01):
That's what he told us.

Speaker 6 (01:12:03):
But me and breebe talking about so much stuff. I
don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:12:05):
Probably he said something to the effect of Big you
told me there's these two Jewish guys out there who
are teaching people.

Speaker 6 (01:12:10):
How Oh no, yeah, no, no, I tweeted your on Instagram. Yeah,
I reteeted your Instagram and he followed it from there.

Speaker 5 (01:12:17):
That was it.

Speaker 6 (01:12:17):
Yeah, I retweeted, I reposted your stuff. Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:12:20):
Then he goes, there you go before you walk in,
you're in the room.

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
Mark goes, well, if the story is true, I'm gonna
find out tell you you did?

Speaker 6 (01:12:35):
You did? Uh? You did two of them and I
reposted both of your Uh. One was about wasn't.

Speaker 7 (01:12:44):
It was probably the one the probably the one where
we were talking about three people who got raided in
a in a bud and two of them said we
work here, and one of them was our clients.

Speaker 6 (01:12:54):
Shut the funk up. Yes, that was yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Shut the Fridays baby, yeah Friday.

Speaker 5 (01:13:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Well, there it is. Guys, it's Cannabis Talk one on one,
Big you one. Thank you for being on the show.

Speaker 5 (01:13:06):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
We're gonna have to have you back because we have
so many more stories that we have to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
As far as the app and all the fun things
that you're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
I like to go onto the show a little bit
more once it's on, Guys, it's Cannabis Talk one on one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
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