Identifying Cannabinoids with President of MC Nutraceuticals™, Bret Worley!

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is a company that acts as a global leader. That
is a global leader and innovation and distribution in the
wholesale cannabinoid space. Now joining us blue is Brett Worley,

(01:34):
the presidents of mc You ready for this one. Nutraceuticals.
Looking at that word is so hard to get it down.
I'm like, nutraceuticals, folks, a subsidity of subsidiary company of
MC Global Holdings that is focused on bringing brands the
highest quality input materials of their consumers along the same

(01:55):
day shipments you guys for their raw materials.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
We're gonna break all that down with does.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
But Brett actually is a smarty pants University of Arkansas
studying International business and finance. I don't know why it
says you're still a senior there though, did you finish?

Speaker 5 (02:10):
I have four hours left one of those.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
We got a great story for that, continued Joe.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Oh do we ever? Yeah, you know it's funny. It
took me a while too. I can give you my story,
maybe even off their it's a funny one. But I
understand what that is because on your LinkedIn it says senior,
and I'm like, what.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
The fuck senior?

Speaker 4 (02:25):
In twenty nineteen, he hasn an updated this bottom line,
you guys. The company pricing states competitive, competitive, and will
stay ahead of the price in any industry. You want
to beat him, come over here and check it out,
you guys. Make sure you're getting the best quality of
service and pricing the industry can provide. MC Nutriceuticals also
outsources white labeling for their consumers, formulations and custom product

(02:48):
development through their partner network. For more information, be sure
to check out their website mc Neuticles it's mcn ut
r acee Utica ls dot com, or find them on
the gram at the same thing right there. Feel free
to give him a call direct one eight hundred six
eight five eight zero eight four. And you know what,

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they have the largest manufacturers of hemp derived Delta eight HC,
THCPCB and THCB and so much more cannabinoids across the globe,
shipping and supplying over five hundred brands across the US,
and I'm talking Europe and Asia, folks. So if you're
listening to this podcast around the world going, you know what,

(03:30):
I need to hook up with this company. Hit up
Brett over there without further ado, put your hands together
for mister Worthy's in the building.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, and I might have to go take them out
in golf and you know what I mean, love them.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Yeah, there's already been some bribery going on.

Speaker 6 (03:43):
In the golf department.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
I seen this.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
We'll be heading to Pelican Hills next time I'm here.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Oh, I cannot wait. He's already dropping nice bots. I'm like, dude,
that's a real good place. And I'm like, oh, and
then he's seen the putter took a video of the
pudder that I have here, the smoker that you can
smoke out of. So Brett, let's get into this company, dude.
I want to understand it more, but I really can't
grasp everything.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
You guys do. I feel like you do a lot.
They do a lot.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
Yeah, we do a lot. So we sell forty four cannabinoids.
So that's that's one of the starts. We export to
twenty seven countries. We sell to five hundred and ninety
companies as of two weeks ago. And those are companies,
whether they're just CVD companies, Delta eight companies, European companies
which usually sell HHG for example, or you know cannabis

(04:28):
MSOs or small small cannabis operators. So we we sell
to kind of the gambit of everyone across the world.
And and you know, our our goal.

Speaker 6 (04:39):
Is to make things easy.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
So we have a we have a fully scaled testing
facility in our inside our building where every every sample
gets ran through all the quality checks or perform same day.
That way we can have shipments go out same day,
over night, overnight which is one of the values of
us is you know, we're one stop shop, but we're
also quick. We're quicker than Amazon, is what I say.
So if you need hundred kilos of deltate tomorrow, I

(05:01):
can chip.

Speaker 6 (05:01):
Them to you. Wow by eight am? Really yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (05:05):
How big is your facility to do that? I mean, geez,
what do you guys got over there?

Speaker 5 (05:09):
We have about seven thousand square feet of just fulfillment space,
so and then the rest is office storage, et cetera.

Speaker 6 (05:17):
So we we have about twenty five thousand square feet.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
You've got a couple of costcos over there on a
big big essentially.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Yeah, And unfortunately we've pieced. We've grew grew this company.
I've grown this company with my team obviously, but we
grew it from zero so three years ago and then
three three years three years. Yeah, we've tripled or doubled
the company every year for three years.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Now, how did you start this? Dog?

Speaker 4 (05:38):
That's that's applaud for a give around? Geez dude.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
So hair, the hair helps. I think I have decided
that I never want to be bald, so I'm going
I'm going to keep the hair.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Wonderful hair.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
By the way, I.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Can't wait to see it off the ponytail because I
just want.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
To smell it. It smells good. I use the hotel
shampoo today.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Connor shuts in every day he has to take off
his hat and I smell his hair.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
It's like a mandatory thing. I O Connor, get over here.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
And it's not violating at all.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
We have to have a day though. Vanessa's here our
head of HR, so it's okay.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
We have to behave That means my charts in town too.
So that's why I left and came here.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
So Brett, Yeah, tell us more about this.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
I mean, what how do you come up with this
idea concept and start building a team from one to
two to how many employees and all?

Speaker 3 (06:31):
That give us the breakdown? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (06:33):
So I mean we can go back to the University
of Arkansas. I had I had four hours left. I've
been working in the great My father owns a boutique
bankruptcy restructuring distress firm. So as a loving father should,
he would just throw me into shithole companies essentially and
try to fix them. Wow, from the age of seventeen.
So I did that for seven.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Eight family problem to have. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, problem.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
I got to see all the things of what not
to do, which was which was great. It's great to
watch other people make mistakes that you don't have to
make them in the future. So that was huge to
you know, being young and being a business person. And
I had an opportunity to join a CBD group, which
at the time CBD was going downhill quickly. This was
twenty nineteen, so May twenty nineteen I essentially entered the

(07:18):
CBD space. We were doing chromatography remediation removing the THHG,
which is a stupid idea just in principle, I would say,
I would they would think we'd like to keep the THG.
But we were doing that and there was just no
market demand for CBD.

Speaker 6 (07:33):
You know this.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
The reality about the CBD market is is you know,
a sixty dollars bottle last few a month. There's not
a there's not a reoccurring consumption, right, So the CBD
market ended up being kind of a fluke essentially, And
Delta eight was made in March of twenty twenty, and
I started supplying the Delta eight suppliers with CBD isolate
and you know, me thinking like this is too good

(07:55):
to be true. You can't sell Delta eight Like that's great,
that's crazy. And you know, six months in, I said,
this is getting big quickly, I'm getting in And I
ended up leaving that company and starting my own company
from scratch and we've built into we have in between
fifteen sixty employees, depends how you count, and some of
them are fractional, so and you know, and then on

(08:19):
the other flip side of that, as I'm also on
the board of the American Healthy Alternative Association, which is
the largest hemp association in the in the world. I
guess we're worldwide now because I had to lobby in
the Czech Republic, which I can get into the international
business too. But you know that that's been a that's
been a huge thing, you know, task for me to
kind of part of the education tour on this is,

(08:39):
you know, to help people understand what the hemp derivatives are,
why they're important, Why you know, mixing cannabinoids is great
for your indo cannabinoids receptor. You know, we don't have
a lot of science because of the FDA, but you know,
hemp has given us the opportunity to kind of the
mix and match cannabinoids. You know, CBN's a great cannabinoids
for sleep. Ta TV is a great one for appetite suppression.

(09:01):
So the hemp industry has evolved the cannabis science by
by twenty years, probably two decades, and that's why we're
able to sell the forty four cannabinoids. And God blessed
the twenty eighteen Farm Bill giving us the leniency to
make derivatives from the hemp plant and whatever means fat
or we like, assuming that they're under point three percent
delta nine THHG.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
You know, it's funny to say that because you know,
right now, you know the delta, the delta nine, right,
is the only one that's actually really being you know,
looked at hard at it. I mean, you know, delta eight,
as you know, it gives you a psychoacic effect, right,
you could get just as high and in some cases more.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
Yeah, No, I mean TGP is probably three to five
times stronger than delta nine, and it also lasts around
twenty times.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Long really example, and quite frankly, you could sell that
right now into smoke shops anywhere, right.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Well, what there are some people doing it in Texas, right.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
Now a lot of people do the Texas fun fact,
Texas markets three point three billion dollars hemp converted cannabinoid market.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
So I'll drop another bombshell for you. The biggest cannabis
market in the world is Florida. And it's not because
they're meta. It's not the med program. It's the hemp
converted market. It's six point nine billion.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
California's five point nine billion.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
People are buying more hemp out there than huh, they're
just smoking it away.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Realize well, because I think again in order to you know,
get it into dispensaries. And it's funny because a lot
of people have talked about this and they don't even
realize it's happening. Yeah, right, And it's like, I'm like,
wait a minute, you guys.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
You know I've been saying this forever.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
I'm saying this is going to be sold into costcos,
it's going to be sold everywhere, and and THC is
being held in dispensaries right now until they get their
arms around everything. But I think the arms are around
everything and they know it is, and so that they're
allowing it to come out as hemp and get you
the same high.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
That's right sold over the counter, and where you.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Can get the Delta eights and the Delta tens at
the right now.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
And you know what I meant at all the smoke
shops nationally, so and.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
That's the bigger play for the government and the big
money people going well, fuck it, I don't want to
buy these thch things.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
It's it's so expensive.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
It's isn't that when I can get these Delta eight
Delta tens.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
For way cheaper. The farms are easier to do. Deal.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Well, if it's kind of the same work, you got
to grow it the same way, but you know it's
just still cheaper.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
Yeah, So I mean it's it's just a little bit
of education to the So we grow the CBD, we
convert it, we isolate out, or we isolate the CBD
to a pure ninety nine point nine percent product, and
then we actually do a semisynthetic reaction to convert it.
So that's that's another misnumber. And people like to kind of,
you know, our enemies or whatever you want to call them,
They kind of want to shit talk that. But the

(11:40):
reality is your vitamins, your bread, like you know, like hydrogenations,
how you make hach for example, that's how you make margarine.
So like we're nothing we're doing is any different, crazy
different than anything you would eat. I mean every day
you're eating something synthetic at some point, so you know
the beauty and I'm sure I'll get pushed back on
this is we make our delta e to nine nine

(12:01):
point nine percent, so you're for the most part, almost
all our cannabinoids are ninety nine percent. In the cannabis industry,
you know your distilance after doing your short pat distillation,
you're at seventy eighty percent, maybe ninety if you're really good.
But what's the rest of it? Sure, and we and
we have a good idea of most of what's the
rest of it. But you know, being able to formulate

(12:23):
with completely pure products also gives you once again that
kind of that leniency. Like say you want an endo
couple ends, so you do seventy five percent delta eight
twenty five percent CBN. That thing's going to knock you
out time that's nine night that's nine night time blind.
And then and then we add into terpenes too to
get the desired terpene pro you could really get.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
The effects that you're trying to get to the consumer.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
Yeah, so instead of instead of guessing and and you
know that and that you know it's pretty much guessing.
I mean, you're attracting cannabis and you end up with
this product at the end of the day, and that's
just your products. Sure, Instead, we can custom formulate, you know,
we're you know, one of the big things that we
started to do is we started doing custom blends in house.
And you know, we're doing hundreds, hundreds and hundreds of

(13:05):
q is a week of blends and you know, we
want two percent of this, five percent of that, ten
percent of this. We're just we're just making sure the
consumer is getting what they want.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
You know, I'm looking for a blend right now, right
and I've been I've been really looking for and I'm
looking for the giggly you know, do you have a
blend that's a giggly blend?

Speaker 3 (13:23):
After this break, it's Cannabis Talk one one more right back.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
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Speaker 4 (13:53):
I want to thank our guy Jose for being here,
standing right behind and being security for Vanessa.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Thank you guys so much.

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I didn't ask you before I left. Those came from Mary,

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and she said from Seattle.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, she said to us.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
She mailed those, but some CBD, CBG or whatever said
CG or something and then she and she sent us
the cookies for the health.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
I didn't what do we still have near? Yeah? They
should be right unless everybody say tomorrow. You know.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
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of Laran Oil's going.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
God, I love I love Loran oils. I just want
to bake it. All.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
I don't think.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
So Worthy is a senior still at the University of Arkansas,
but he's also the president of mc Nutraceuticals and he's
got four hours left in good old ARC.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah, I mean, but I love that.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
I had one class left too at San Jose State
to get my degree, and twenty years, dog twenty years,
it took me to go back and get it. Oh
you did it, actually, and I went so and I
had a call back, and thank god when I called SO,
I go, hey, you know what, my daughter, my daughter
was already born, and my other daughters born, and my
going to high school, going to college.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
I'm like, dude, I got to get my degree.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
My wife has a degree from KU, she went to
Kansas and then she has her doctor from USC.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
And I'm like, if I don't get.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
My fucking degree, I'm just a bonehead, right, because I
was one class away exactly.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
I thought they revoked some of your credits.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Well here's the deal. You ready for this?

Speaker 4 (15:40):
I called the head right because they called the first administration.
And I went to school before it was internet, so
I had to always just sit with an advisor.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
They're like, oh, you got to go online the huh,
what do you mean? Right?

Speaker 4 (15:50):
But then I find out they go talk to the
head of the department, which was radio, Television and Film
and see if they'll let you do it. I get
a hold of him, Thank god, I've helped out so
many students from there, because he goes.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Oh, Joe, big Joe, Oh yeah, well you know you
you helped out x student wise studient.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
But yes, that's me, that's me, and I just had
when I was working on NBC Sports.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
I'm like, yes, I just had here, and he remembered that.
He goes, oh, yes, such and such was working with
you at NBC Sports. Yes, that's me.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
He goes, don't worry, I'll grandfather you in twenty years
if ever.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
He goes, you don't have to worry about anything.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
And I go do but my minor sociology He goes, oh,
that's Larry Over.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
I'll tell him, don't worry about it. Oh, grandfather you
in that too.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
So everything I had to take the class I had to.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Take a So then I had to go to I
went to a JC and took my science class, which
was you know, a twenty.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
List of classes.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
That's what mine is. Science.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
So I took that's amazing.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
I have chemists that work for me. I have several
chemists that work for me. I have VHD chemist, organic
chemist that works for me. I mean, I have several
chemists that work for me. And I can't finish my
chemistry class. Wow.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Well instead of chemistry, like mine would have been chemistry,
this and that, I ended up taking social sociology Environments Associals.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Whatever it was, and I think it shark I and
it just was one.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Of those like equivalation of this, will equipalate that, and
it was a list.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
Yeah, that's that's that's what mine is. I mean a
lot of people in like college took like like the
bug class or whatever or they like to catch bugs,
and that was.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Like environmental science I think it is.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
When my class was yeah, yeah, and that could have
been how easy it was, and I just I just
didn't want to do the lab and so I just
pushed it off and pushed it off. And the next thing,
you know, I had a job, and then I was
running a company, and then I do with that company
and started I.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Was doing money radio. That's exactly my story.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
I got busy, busy, busy, and literally twenty years later,
I got my degree from my two years.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
My mom literally like begged me to finish. Wow, And
I'm like, I'm like Mom, Like, I'm like, I'm making
a lot of money, Like I don't need to go
back to school.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Dude. That's funny. So is that I was making tons
of I have millions of listeners every day. What do
you do?

Speaker 4 (17:49):
And then the guys on the radio used to bust
my balls like you didn't have you don't just have
one class left?

Speaker 3 (17:53):
And then we even did a whole bit on it.
They called and he really did only have one class left.
Then I moved to LA and I'm like, I got
to get finished that one class.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
Yeah, so I know you're I'm not gonna do it.
I mean you really have to.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
You really have to for the reason you have kids.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
Well, when you have kids, dog, you're gonna sit there
and you're gonna say, you guys need to see this.
I did it too, And then they're gonna look at
you and you're gonna say, oh, kids keep trying hard. Yeah,
well daddy only has one class left, and they're gonna go,
yadd are you're fucking moron?

Speaker 3 (18:21):
What do you mean you have one class.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
I've got three years left, you know what I mean,
not two years left or even a year one class.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
I just put USC on my LinkedIn and so I'm
graduated at you know, I mean, you know, broadcast Oxford
or something.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Yeah, it's funny though, but I love when I seen that,
and it's just a funny thing to randomly hear you
got one year left.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
That's phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
So Blue was questioning, He's been questioning a lot of people,
and we said this before he went to break and
how could you guys configure something? Because I can relate
to what Blues asking for that We that we used
to smoke when we were younger, and just get the
jiggles over it, right, you get high, you feel high,
you feel fun, you feel happy, and I'm sure there's

(19:04):
some way that does that for some people.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah, but there's the og.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
This that that's not the uppers.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Though, if a gun to the back of my head,
I would probably do you know. I I'd do a
Delta eight blends so it's a little bit less psychoactive,
and then I'd put probably a fifteen percent CBG and
fifteen percent TGV. That'd be the first guess just because
of the energy that both those cannabinoids are allegedly supposed
to bring. So I think that's that's really what you're
looking for. You want to be high, and you want

(19:31):
to be high energy, and you want to be having
a good time. See that's just the guests off the
top of my head.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
But do you say allegedly because you know, yes, because
legal purposes. Yeah, yeah, I mean, but but is it
do you truly feel that way? I mean, is it
it's okay to have Hey, I feel this is.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
Yeah, I can have and I can have opinions. Obviously
I'm training. I'm trained for.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
An like this. Yeah, which is very good. I like that.
What do you run the company? Yeah, we heard him
say on can I.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
Can't get into some things, but some things like that
have happened to me. So I have you know, we
had with a big.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Company you're you know, delivering around the world, which I
want to get into you.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
But yeah, so you know, the short answer is this
TV CBN got me into the space. Really, so I
was already in the CBD space, but CBN, you know,
I was working a crazy amount trying to make this
company work out, the original one, and you know, working
one hundred and hundred ten hours a week. We were
twenty four to seven lab too. So you know, something
that happened at two am I got to be there.

(20:33):
I was having issue setting off my brain and someone
it was just like one of the first batches of
pure CBN ever made, and I just took it just
as the island, like fifty to one hundred milligrams, best
sleep I'd had in.

Speaker 6 (20:46):
I don't know years.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Thanks for bringing them.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Well, we can just talk about my we can have
stuff here tomorrow sower. So that that opened my eyes
because CBD did anything for me personally.

Speaker 6 (21:02):
This can help people.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
Yeah, you know, at the end of the day is
you know, I'm you know, I'm here to run my
business and make sure my employees have jobs and make
money for myself. But you know, I'm actually passionate about
these cannabinoids. And then the next one was Delta eight,
and then the one after that was t TV, which
TV's you know, allegedly an appetite suppressant and it works
for me personally, and it's also a stimulant, so it's

(21:25):
like a like a two milligrams of adderall, you know,
like instead of like thirty you know, like because you
know I've taken adderall before. Man, I'll be out for
three days.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, I just someone offered me. It's funny. I took
me a second, know someone it was funny because I
don't know where we're at in Vegas or someone. They're like, oh,
just take half of this adderall, you'll be fine, And
I'm like.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
I'm good. I'd rather do this coke.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah, I'm good with that, you know.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
And yeah, that's I mean, that's the other part of this,
and not to take a stab at pharmaceuticals, but I'll
do it anyways. Is you know, I've seen people go
down these paths and it is kind of a you know,
there's there's room for pharmaceuticals, but there's also room for
alternative medicines, and that's what diasary supplements have done with
in the nutraceutical space. But I see these cannabinoids as

(22:18):
having extreme promise. I mean, I'll tell I'll tell a
story about we have a blend CBG CBGA blend and
it's called our it's our cancer blend. And my buddy
had liver cancer. He's actually my driver in Vegas and
we were driving back and I overnighted him, you know
once again next day our you know this one to
one blend. It's fifteen hundred milligrams of CBG, fifteen hundred
milligrams of fifteen of CBGA, and there's literature in mice

(22:41):
that shows that these cannabinoids reduced tuber growth. So I
just sent it over to him. He was about to
be on the liver on the transplant list, and in
three days he started feeling significantly different. And I don't
I don't know the exact I don't know the exact
timeline of when when he went and did the scan,
but he was going to be on the transplant list,

(23:02):
and he went and did his scan and it was
completely gone, one hundred percent eradicated. The doctors had no
idea what to even say. They go, whatever you did,
keep doing that, just keep taking it.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
That's the reason why we do this show, Brett, for
stories like that. I mean, that is the reason why
we're both here. While I'm here, while I'm such an
advocate of it, and I love all your products right
here because I don't actually smoke flower like that, but
I use everything that you have on your site. That's like,
oh my god, I want to use this for that.
Actually I don't use everything on it. I want to
start using more of it because I see the benefits

(23:36):
more and more by talking to guys like you like.
And not only that, people that are regular smokers need
to be more educated on this because so many people
just think I just want to smoke weed. Yeah, and
it's like cool, And don't get me wrong, I think
it's cool. And if that's what you want to do,
but if you really want the full effect of what
this cannabinoiling plant could do for you.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
I think even better than the full effect, it's the
broken down effect, right, Like, I mean, you know, because
I think that the when they're getting the plant, they're
just getting the whole plant they're smoking, which is great, right.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
And whatever's in there is in there is the usually
don't know and there's usually not high enough concentrations any.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Of which one to make right.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
So when you hyper focus though on hey, this is
how I feel, this is what I'm trying to achieve.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
I think there's a I mean, you.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Know, and I've never said this, by the way, but
you know, based on just the you know, the conversation
we're having now, I mean, I know, now that CBN
also makes me go to sleep.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yeah you know, I know that because I've tried it enough.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
You know, I'm like, oh, CBN, it's like and not
necessarily a joint does joint Sometimes you can wake up
after smoking joint. And quite frankly, that's why I don't
smoke joints all the time and get high all the
time like I used.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
To, because I don't. I'm getting a crapshoot of what
I might get. But if you do CGN, you do
a thing you're like, yoh, yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
And so so by being able to break that effect down,
really having trials and starting to figure out, you know,
exactly actually what part of this plant is providing you
the necessity Like you said that the cancer blend, you know,
you're you're now able to really hone in on people's
you know, problems, and that is something that I again, it's.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
What we do here and why we do this. We
love to promote.

Speaker 6 (25:20):
Yeah, and you'll love this piece.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
So we've you know, my mother again wanted me to
do some philanthropy, so I said, okay, So we did
a We're doing a billion milligram giveaway for non psychoactives.
So it's CBN, CBG. I think it's CBN, CBG, CBG A,
and CBD. So any anyone that goes through the proper
process essentially for people that really need it, you know,

(25:42):
low income or people that just have problems and want
to try it out there, they can get three grams,
so three thousand milligrams essentially a pure products that they
can take and then if they do, if it does
help them, we have a platform to where they can
essentially buy wholesale raw materials like a like a way
Pro Team powder essentially, and they can buy an ounce,
they can buy one hundred grams, they can buy whatever

(26:04):
they need because some people do need you know.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Try it first and see if it helps you it
doesn't move on.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
We're partnering with you know, like I don't have any
names the name today, but we're you know, we're looking.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
To talk and will help us credit for you brother,
I promise you we will.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
That's a great looking to partner with, you know certain
you know, you know the Cancer Society. I'm just dropping names,
but you know societies like that, associations that have these
people that need help that might want to try something alternative,
especially in dire situations. I mean, when you're on the
verge of a transplant list like, I don't know about you,
but I'll try whatever.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Yeah, you know, I mean my mom had a kiddie transplant.
His dad, both my parents are dad. His dad died
of cancer. So it's like, you know, we get it.
That's while we're so behind this, I got a quick
question about the CBD isolate. Can you break down the
difference of why you guys are using isolate more than
disolate or why would you use more dissolate than isolate?

Speaker 5 (26:57):
Yeah, sure, I mean, and it kind of goes back
to that conversation about like how many cannabinoids are in there.
So you know, isolate at this point is mainly a
conversion product.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
It and it's a powder.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
It's a powder, so so it's you know, precise formulations
ninety nine percent. It's a crystalline product. So you know,
some some cannabinoids when they when they turn pere, they
start to crap what we call crash out, and then
we can we can spend those and penttain and throw
out all the all the pure products. So not not
all cannabinoids crash out at hyperity, but most of them do.
So it's a it's just a technique, but anyway, it's

(27:29):
an easy way to formulate. And then a lot of
the CBD goes into making delta, and then the delta
makes the HHG and then you kind of go So
a lot of people don't know this either is CBN,
like you know, for the cannabis folks out there that
buy CBN, you know, for the people that don't love
the delta people, your CBN is made from delta a THHC.
So just fun factoid for everybody. Educational comes from that.

(27:50):
So you so you take CBD, you convert it to delta,
and then you convert the delta eight to CBN.

Speaker 6 (27:54):
Oh wow yeah yeah good.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
So then people are thinking, I don't like that. You're like, no,
you actually do.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
You Almost everyone's got CBN and and their products nowadays
because it's a great product. And and once again, you know,
it all goes down to purity, like there's you know,
if we know what all the compounds are in the product,
and we and we do additional toxicology screenings, basic toxicology
screens on all our compounds, we run them against this database,
which will only mean stuff to nerds. But it's essentially

(28:20):
four hundred thousand known compounds toxins, chemicals, but just all
compounds in general. So even if we had like you know,
some plant material in there were like some terpenes in there,
we would pop up and we would know that for
some reason there's terpenes in our deltate or whatever. So
we whenever we make something new, we make sure to
do everything we can in our ability to make sure
make sure it's safe. Of course, because we are you know,

(28:42):
breaking the mold. I mean we forty four cannabinoids. Would
have guessed that you could isolate out forty four cannabinoids
and you know they have different purposes and if're.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Still not knowing how many there are still, I mean, there's.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
In my opinion, there's styles. I mean, like just based
off our sciences, we can we can drive and drive
and drive and drive and make cannabiitoids all day long.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
Essential.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
So you know the real question is is when do
we catch up with finding them in the plant, because
there is you know, conversations of you know, if it's
not a final cannabinoid, but it's a cannabinoid, like you know,
is it just because we haven't found it in the plant.
Because most of these cannabinoids are just tracing the plant.
That's another reason why we have to make them this way.
We don't there's not really a choice, right, And then
there's also the scale discussion. How are you going to

(29:20):
supply a billion people with cannabinoids in ten years whenever
that time? That you can't grow enough marijuana to do that,
You got to grow it outdoor, just like corn. Sure, yeah,
I mean we have problems enough supplying enough corn. So
so I mean I I look at this, you know
in the company's name is mc Nutraceuticals, And I guess

(29:40):
I got lucky if the name because it worked out
the way I envisioned it is. These are vitamins, you know,
at the end of the day, these are vitamins. Some
of them are psychoactive and those those player role obviously,
but there's some that are non psychoactive, that are literally
just vitains.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Yeah, I agree that what I.

Speaker 6 (29:57):
Say about it, I mean you want to you don't
want to.

Speaker 5 (29:59):
You don't want melatonin because it gives you a little
bit of a hangover in the morning or you groggy. Yeah,
try CVN. I mean, if you if you want to
try to be more accelerated during the day, try to HGV.
So we've we've supplied all these products on our We
have a small directing consumer site that I'll plug real
quick vivimove dot com, VI I V I M you
dot com and you can get these isolated cannabinoids, whether

(30:20):
in the pure form or in soft gail form or
in gummy form.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
As you do those different forms, is it better to
take a pill with isolate in it? Are you using
the dissolate with more oils? What's one is better for
your body?

Speaker 5 (30:33):
That? I mean, I would I would always go just
on to pure products. I mean, I don't know, I
don't have an answer to that. The pure things are
the less chances. You know, Disolate's not a pure product,
so typically, and the names are kind of confusing sometimes
because people will say, like like anything that's a liquid's
a disolate, But a dissolate by true scientific definition would
be something of multiple compounds in it.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
That's not completely easier.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
So I would I would favor on the side that
your compounds are the way to go, and the only
way to do that is through you know, our is
RaSE isomerization process, which is the processing date hydrogenation, which
is the process DJ.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
She is that one. There is that one. They're more crystallized,
is what you're.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
Saying, versus but not all cannabilities technically, So like delta
doesn't crystallize, Delta nine doesn't crystallize, o J she doesn't
crystallize even at ninety nine percent. Wow, So CBN crystallizes,
CBD crystallizes, cbg A crystallizes.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
You know, It's like, but you could that you can
add components to.

Speaker 5 (31:27):
Make it so we can still we can still make
sure that the ninety nine percent, but not all cannabinoids
behave the same way.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Sure's that amazing?

Speaker 6 (31:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah, yeah, So so you know, I'll tell you what
it really is. What is your favorite, you know, blend
of cannabinoids? After this break, it's Cannabis Talking on a
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Talk one oh one. I never mind you guys about
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Speaker 4 (32:14):
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President of mc Nutraceuticals.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Brett, You guys are working with.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Not only nationwide here in the US, but you go
out of this country and how many different countries are
you working with? And how easy was it? Hard was it?
What was the hardest one? Are you in Russia? Are
you in China where it's a little freaking different where
it's like, dude, those are communist places where it's dictators.

(32:54):
It's not like, you know, going to France or Europe.
It's you know, tell me a little bit more of
what you're doing internationally and your favorite Thank you for
going back to that.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
So I'll do that. I'll do that first. I would
say I have two favorites. I don't I don't smoke anymore,
so no one shoot me for that, or right, don't
consume cannabis every every once in a while, I'll try
maybe one of our newer products, but I would I
would say, I'm gonna say I give three answers. Actually,
CBN's my favorite because sleeping is really important to me.

(33:25):
I work out every day. I need my recovery from
my brain. I'm just kidding, but I do need my recovery.
But sleeping is like really important to me. So CBN
has helped me out in the past. I don't I
don't take it habitually. But and then TGV is my
my my other favorite. You know, four milligrams even we
have a blend that we have is it's four milligrams

(33:46):
t TV and a couple other cannabinoids. And I when
I took it the first time, I mean I got
I got to like eight pm, and I just like
looked back and was like what just happened? Like it's
it's not like like I said, it's not like add
orall where you're like kind of tweaking out, Like it's
like you don't even know that you have the energy
no caffeine and needed for for me personally, of course,

(34:08):
but you don't even really notice that it's going on.
Because for me, even even caffeine. You know, if I
drink caffeine after two pm, I'm not sleeping. Really, yeah,
I'm a super low I don't know. If it's caffeine tolerance. Yeah,
my caffeine intake.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
I could drink.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
If it has a lot of sugar, I can do
it because I'll have a crash. But if I that's interesting.
But if I do a but if I do a
like a coffee, you know, that's it.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
I'm I'm I'm up until maybe sometimes four in the morning.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
I'll go at five pm up You're down.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
You're like, what the fuck? And then and then I
have to lay there and go why am I like this?
And you had that afternoon?

Speaker 5 (34:52):
I had a couple got to be the caffeine. I mean,
I don't know for sure, but that's that's I don't
take anything else.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
So now though it's funny that because my and my
mom is now allergic to caffeine.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
What yeah, at you? I don't know. I want to
say forty, I'm sorry, fifty something years old. She's not
younger than No, I'm saying what she got when she
got really. No. So there's fifty something years old, fifty
five years old. My mom's sixty. She's so beautiful for sixty,
it's crazy. She said, we take care of us. You
don't have nothing like your mama walking him up And

(35:25):
we'd be like.

Speaker 7 (35:25):
Who's that. Well, that's why we're friends. Uh, you know,
you know, but the the she's now, I'm not. She's
now allergic to caffeine. And she just tells me she's like,
she breaks out in hives. What is what does that mean?

Speaker 3 (35:40):
No?

Speaker 2 (35:41):
So she she gets ships. Yeah, so she she has
the ship. Yeah, she has a very you know, she
gets tweaky like that, fidgety. It takes her straight to
Uh that's.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Why I used to like to feel race. I should
like to feel like that.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
On her race level. She can't have any caffeine? Can
I have allergic to that? Lactose tolerant, and all the
kinds of things that just all come together with just randomly.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, fifty because she.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Was having problems and she and she went to the
hot she's small dog, she like, she's tiny, beautiful, Yeah,
you know she she you know, they just literally go.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
From she just tells me she's had a whole list.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Of things that says, well, if any of these things
happened to you, I want you guys to know because
I became at fifty five, I became allergic to caffeine.
I became las old. So she has this whole list
of things that she wrote for me, and she's like,
I have the list aside for you. I don't want
to give it to you because I don't want you
to start thinking about it and thinking that you're going

(36:38):
to be you know.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
But but if you know, though, but if you ever
need it, you know.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
And so she's already monitoring me, like are you smoking.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
A cigarette and his dad died, that's a whole different story.
Why are you doing that? Ship You're making me want
one right now, Joe, don't worry. I want to go
smoke with you. Please, let's go.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
So Brett, now that we've answered those CBDs, I think
there was a third one too that.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
So the third thing is the blend. So we we
have we've started to blend about fifteen milligrams CBN, fifteen
milligrams of delta nine TG. So another thing that we've
been able to do with the farm bill is because
it's point three percent by dryway basis. We can put
Delta nine in gummies, so we can actually sell down there. Well,
we we're selling the same thing that's in the dispensary.

(37:25):
I can actually go up. You know, a lot of
states as capped. It's based on the size of my gummy.
So if I make a fifteen gram gummy, I can
put fifteen milligrams in it.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
Yeah, so ours we have we have a new product
that's a sampler product. We're probably gonna scale it up eventually.
They do really well. But we have fifteen milligrams D
nine per gummy plus fifteen milligrams a D nine t
TV and then we have a fifteen milligrams uh D nine,
fifteen milligrams CBN and then a fifteen.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
And this is legal and every small shop most most states.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
Most it's probably California is a tricky one because they're
converted cannabinoids and.

Speaker 6 (37:58):
Stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (37:59):
Yeah, and we can go into some of the everywhere else. Yeah,
but most most states it's legal.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
So yeah, so it's.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
A federal loss. So as long as the state hasn't
specifically banned converted cannabinoids or they define it differently in
different states. And we can talk a little bit about
the politics if you guys want to do that. But
you know, the reality is they're legal most states, and
I would do interstate commerce, which is the biggest thing.
I mean, the poor Mso is like I meant, I
gotta feel bad for him a little bit. I mean,

(38:27):
I can't imagine having to break up my operations in
every state. I can barely keep up with my travel
schedule of you know, doing you know, going to Prague
for Canifest and these shows and speaking and stuff like that.
I can't imagine operating fifteen states independently. I mean, we
had a problem in Colorado where they're threatening to kick
us out of the state, and we fought back and

(38:48):
luckily we won. But we were thinking about moving to Florida,
and I'm like, I can't lose my people. My human
capital is too precious to me. So I just fought
back and we ended up keeping Harbor essentially, so we're
allowed to manufacture all products in Colorado. We just can't
sell them retail unless they go through a dispensary outlet.
Oh wow, we were able to keep it, and the

(39:09):
most of the man A lot of manufacturing's done in Colorado.
So that's all we you know, give the marijuana people
their dispensaries.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Whatever are you guys were going to clouds out there?
Clouds of smoke? Is that the Is that the dude?
The homies out there in Texas? Oh you're talking about uh, clouds,
cloud ponics, cloud ponics.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah, you guys the fourteen stores in in uh in
in Texas, so.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
They probably they probably stock like the brand. So we
were mainly B two B to brand. That's that's our
specialty is and that's why we have so many clients
is because we have you know, small mom and pop brands,
we have giant corporations, so we're really.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Do you direct? Do you direct deliver for them as well?
I mean are you.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
Well, well, right now when we're expanding, we're probably going
to expand into contract manufacturing. I guess that's a that's
news for everybody in the world.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
That's countries. Just said hi to everybody.

Speaker 5 (39:59):
But but right now, we just ship raw materials to
their facilities or potentially a contract manufacturer themselves, uh, and
then they just put it in the vapor, they put
in the gummies or whatever, and then they ship it
back to probably their fulfillment center and then then it
would go to the store.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Gotcha.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
So there's a couple a lot of the brands that.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Were taking out those steps so right now or so.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Slowly, just just going down the value chain essentially.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
As you start to scale and look at what it is.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
Yeah, what's it seems valuable?

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Right?

Speaker 5 (40:26):
What the capital investment is, all those different things. How
much does it really play into what we do now?
You know, the one thing that people, you know, I
think in business in general is is they sometimes try
to do everything at once. So we've really just focused
on the raw material thing and we're not done with that.
You know, we probably have a seven to ten percent
market share. I want a quarter and I'll be happy
with that. So, I mean, that's that's part of this

(40:48):
is we want to we want to make sure, you know,
one for market share, but also I trust our products
and I don't necessarily trust everyone else's products because I've
seen the other products. So you know, there's bad act
in every industry. You know, we've done a really good
job overall self regulating this industry because.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Well that's the other hard part because you're you know,
this isn't regulated for you.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
You literally just have a federal guideline that says don't
don't go over point three percent delta and ith and
you can do whatever you want. I mean, that's that's
the gist of it.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
And yeah, using gas for water, so we we've.

Speaker 5 (41:21):
This goes into some of the politics. So shifting into that,
I mean we you know, I'm I'm a board member
of association American Healthy Alternative Association, and we've spent time
and we've passed laws in Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama, Florida, West Virginia,
and Colorado. Now that are the only one that's not
super pro Delta AID is Colorado just because we can't

(41:41):
do the retail sales like through a smoke shop. But
the rest of them are age they're just age Gate
essentially twenty one plus you know, some basic packaging requirements
and the state loves it. I mean, I met with
the Governor of Kentucky and I thanked him because he
was one of the first people to stick his neck
out for doubt date and an executive order. And I'm like,
I'm like, like that was huge for us. It's like, listen,

(42:03):
this isn't this isn't a scary molecule. For for a fact,
I've sold seventy seventy billion doses of ten milligrams of
Delta eight. Probably I've shipped one hundred and forty thousand
kilos over my career. Now wow, and we now we
do you know twenty five to thirty five thousand a quarter,

(42:23):
like this stuff isn't unsafe. Like if it was, we would.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
Know by now at your door, Boby and other countries
wouldn't allow it. Now going back to how we started
this before, we went back to your three favorites that
you'd like to use. How difficult, No, no problem, I
love it. It was all good. But I'm so curious.
How difficult was it to get into that international game?

Speaker 5 (42:44):
The international game? We technically, one of my clients told me,
technically we created it. So you know, a company made
HHG hexohydroc cannabinol, so it's not a TG. So in
Europe they have a total TCH ban. Any tetrahydroc cannabinoll
is as banned. Right, So HG was you know, call
a loophole whatever you want to call it. But that's

(43:04):
essentially just hydrogenated like I sus it's the margins to
the butter sure. So it's it's just a psychoactive essentially
as Delta nine TG. Some people prefer it, some people don't.
You know, once again he goes back to preference. But
we can make it in ninety nine percent. We started
exporting it to the Czech Republic. We started to make
a name for itself over in Europe. I started to
have to lobby in Europe, and you know, Czech Republic,

(43:26):
we have a distribution facility and then we you know,
send everything there and then everything goes throughout Europe through there.
So we have a company in Czech Republic. I have
a company in Ireland that owns the company in the
Czech Republic. Tax reasons. But you know, it's it wasn't
it wasn't all that difficult. But the problem is is
the same problem that we had. You know, they're there
year one of Delta. If you if you were to

(43:47):
just some things up is you know, you got no
champions to fight it. So some countries banned HC. So
then you know, you got to come up with a
new cannon or you know, whatever the next thing is.
So you know, that's you know, I can't be everywhere
at once. Obviously in educating. We stuck our foot in
the Czech Republic and we educated them and and the
reality is these politicians or you know, whoever they are

(44:08):
in these different countries, it's it's it'sd a little bit
different and international politics. But you know, when you educate them,
like just like we're kind of educating today, it's like
you're like, huh that it all makes sense. You know,
you can grasp it when you but when you see
these articles online and that's all you've seen about, you know,
how dell date it's bad and the child you know,

(44:29):
children are taking it in school.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
It's somebody died, but it doesn't mean because it was
mixed with other oils and somebody fucking you.

Speaker 5 (44:35):
Know, there was a Pennsylvania case where they said that
someone was putting fennel in their Delta eight and it
was just completely wrong. They had to retract it publicly
and everything. And it's like someone brought that up to
me the other like two weeks ago, and I'm like, well,
they retracted it because they just someone made a mistake somewhere.
I don't know why. I mean, I'm not saying it
was ill intentioned, but I mean, that's not a good. Look,

(44:57):
how often does that have that good industry you know,
like go take your vitamin K and yeah, this is
something something happens. I thought that.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Were using it.

Speaker 5 (45:11):
Yeah, So I mean it's it's you know, that's part
of the reason why I do this. This is, you know,
I know the science, I know the economics, I know
the legal stuff. It's it's easy for me to sit
here and talk to you guys about this and and
really to educate people on you know, the the greatness
of these cannabis. And and we shouldn't be prohibiting any cannabinoids.

(45:32):
And we should be pushing for the regulation or the
descheduling of builta nine teche. And we shouldn't be applauding
rescheduling at all. It needs to be descheduled. They should
all be descheduled, just like I mean, yeah, if if
the federal government took the approach that they've taken with him,
they just created an eighty billion dollar market. So so
you know, to look at numbers. We're about to release

(45:53):
an economic report done by Bo Whindy, who's the number
one economists in the cannabis industry, and he's saying, on
the high side, it's the thirty eight billion dollar industry.
Hemp is himp's already bigger than cannabis on a revenue basis. Potentially,
if you drop down to the bottom line, it's five
times bigger because we're all profitable. We didn't take money
from people at the beginning.

Speaker 6 (46:10):
Yeah, that's most of us did.

Speaker 5 (46:12):
Yeah, some people, Yeah, but those people already Yeah, so
those people are kind of already out.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Of the space, so they were just taking it to
take it.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
But you know, these brands are all you know, they're
all making money. I mean, twenty four percent of cannabis
companies are profitable.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:24):
Wow, that's unbelievable. I mean it's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
And and you think that's because the taxes.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
It's the taxes, and it's it's Yeah, if you were
if you moved to ade and you give interstate commerce up,
you're just looking at.

Speaker 6 (46:38):
The hip market.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
Yeah, that's all you're looking at, just looking at them.
Welcome back, Yeah, welcome to what we're what we've been
doing for four years essentially three years of deltate probably,
but I think we might be coming up on four years.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
And let me ask you, was that by like mistake
or was that just kind of like doing your your
homework before you walked in and was just like, listen,
well we had because I'm sure you had an idea, Hey,
we're gonna get in the cannabis industry. And then it's like, no,
it's probably better to go hamp And this is what
it turned out to be.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
Like I said earlier, my dad's restructuring firm. He got
asked by someone he used to work with to come
help them raise money and do all this stuff. My
dad said, fuck, no, I don't want to be involved
in cannabis. He's you know, Christian and thinks CBDs cannabis
at the time.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Yeah, And the story, the.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
Story gets funny because he's my CFO now and my company.
He's not one of the largest THG dealers in the
in the world world, which I hope my mom doesn't
see this clip because she might have an aneurism. But
but I mean short answers, No, I mean it was

(47:45):
a complete accident. I just got thrown into this company
and and you know, I ended up having to run
the whole thing. I you know, I had I had
two chemical engineers who now I help them build their
own company, and they're they're crushing it and uh because
the company once I left, it does all in a month.
I just it was just too much. I just I
wasn't getting paid. And you know it's like, I go

(48:06):
do this my own way. We there was you know,
when you have too many cooks in the like, I
don't want business partners, I'll be honest. You know, I
like advisors, but you know, when there's too many cooks
in the kitchen, I mean, you see it time and
time and time again. I mean, and sometimes having business
partners works, but you know, it's a lot of times
it just doesn't. It doesn't for me, especially because I
trust my gut and I go with my gut and

(48:27):
and it's usually right. And when it's wrong, you know,
I own that.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
You take the blame. I take the blame, have bubble guts,
and you take it and.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
You're good.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
How big is your grow out there?

Speaker 4 (48:40):
The grow grow as in for product that you are
you guys buying the product?

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Are you growing your own product?

Speaker 5 (48:46):
So we're pretty much just a distributor. The only things
that we do in house is there is the QA,
so we keep the manufacturers accountable. So essentially contract manufacture
our rollways. So We have very strong relationships with our vendors.
They make the product for us, and then we buy
it from them and then we q A it quarantine
at q A it under just normal GMP guidelines, which

(49:06):
is good manufacturing practices, which is dietary supplement you know,
for dietary supplement UH rules. We now have those regulations
in Colorado that'll be implemented next year. But so we're
really just sales service, quality focus. We're good at that.
That's what we're good at. So we're not the farmer.
We're not even the ice. Yeah, I mean indirectly were

(49:30):
buying millions of pounds a month essentially, So it's a
it is quite a bit, but we just want There
was there was a gap in the market that I saw,
and that that is what I when I made my
analysis was the manufacturers don't want to sell, so someone's
got to step in and sell for them. And I
don't want to manufacture anymore. I just did it for
a year. It was awful. I hated it. It's like

(49:51):
too much, too much, too many chemicals. Is what I
always say is I don't want to be breathing in
chemicals every ten seconds. So and I know, and I
don't want my eployees doing that either. I mean, you know,
obviously there's ways to do it properly, but you know,
you got to run in the back for a second.
Are you really going to mask up and everything? I
mean probably no, you should, yeah, and you should, but
probably not. So we decided that we were going to

(50:12):
be the best distribution company, the biggest distribution company, and
quality service and focus was going to be. It was
going to be everything for us, and having the most
amount of cannabinoids because the other thing is is, you know,
we have forty vendors. You know, no one makes every cannabinoid.
You'd have to build out a two hundred million dollar
facility to really do that properly, and like we that
would cost us that. So we've just leveraged the existing

(50:34):
infrastructure and we've helped out those companies quite a bit
by becoming their sales arm. They want us there, they
you know, maybe a couple of them want to choke
us out, but that's impossible. So yeah, you know, and
that's why I have no problem you know, discussing this
because a lot of people know that, you know, we're
almost like a third party audit facility for these cannabinoids,
like when you get it, when you get it from us,
you get the MC and guarantee that it is what

(50:55):
it is. Well, we intake products from manufacturers all the
time and guess what it ain't what it is?

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Sure, and you guys will test it and you'll send
it back I.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
Know, right back.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Do you guys do terms with them or is this
something that they just you pay? You pay up front?
I mean obviously taking a quarantine and.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
Smaller manufacturers have to go through at least our quarantine process.
And a lot of our manufacturers are.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Take it in and then once you take it in,
test another batch just to make sure that do didn't
happen because I'm sure.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
Oh yeah, we test, We test small, test a lot, yeah,
yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
And are you using the test that you guys the
kit the test right there? Was it? What do you
think about that?

Speaker 5 (51:31):
I don't I don't know enough to speak on it.
I don't know how it could be overly accurate, especially
for what we do because we test so many caninoids.
You need, you need there's two machines that you have
to have. A g C MESS which is gas chromatography
that's really good for separating out isomers better than an
hboc is. But in HBOC's high pressure pressure liquid chromatography,

(51:53):
that's pretty standard. That's what everyone's been using in cannabis,
specifically for flour because you can't add heat to flower
obviously it'll de cars, so you can't use gas chromatography,
so every everyone, And that's the other thing is is
a lot of manufacturers don't have these equipment, Like we
have three HBOCs that are on twenty four seven.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Wow really yeah wow, And.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
We have one GCMs that's not quite up right yet
but I and I also gave a g CMS away
to my buddy so that he could one of our manufacturers. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Well that was kind of the theory. So and we
made a trade, so it was it was amicable. But
you know, we'll deal with manufacturers. We literally have no

(52:34):
I mean honestly, they have no idea what they're doing.
And that's why I love the color The Colorado regulation
ended up actually being great, even though we were fighting
for our lives at one point. Is is we have
some really good regulations for manufacturers that you have to
you know, g mp IS should be the basic for
all cannabis companies and hip companies because things are being
ingested and inhaled. So that's been a good framework that

(52:55):
we've set up and and and Colorado, and.

Speaker 6 (52:58):
We applaud that.

Speaker 5 (52:59):
We hope that that that is kind of a case
study for cannabis and for him is airnets, beard nets, booties.
It's pain in the ass. You know, it is what
it is. But anytime you open it, I mean, it's
it's been it's you know. I mean, so there's no
reason not to do it. So I'm glad. I'm glad
we were able to come to terms of Colorado and

(53:19):
say in that state. So thank you to the State
of Colorado. Thank you to the cd pH G, and
thank you Governor pol Us for helping us out with
the process. Yeah, and now you're a Denver's the tickets,
the Nuggets and avalanche. So I had to wait for
the law to go through.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
The knew it was so good. They beat the last night.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
I was holding off the lady for so I'm like,
I need this building. I need the governor to sign
the bill before I could get the season tickets because
I might be moving.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
Oh that's funny, that's really fun Well, Brett. Everything we
do here, we love what you guys are doing. Man,
you are the president of MC Nutraceuticals. Your company sounds amazing.
The website's amazing. I love looking and learning about all
the cannabinoid products that you guys are getting there and
shipping out. So if you're a company that wants to

(54:09):
explore more, feel free to go to their website, you
guys and check it out. Hear me now, Believe me.
Later you'll see what I'm talking about. As far as
what they got mc.

Speaker 5 (54:18):
N U t r A c e U T.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
I see als dot com with so many great products
that you can see they're blue.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
It's just phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
But we like to do the high five with everybody
that comes on here, and before we do, I want
to thank the whole staff for doing everything around here
and making Vanessa's world just so much better with the HR.
Thank you Vanessa for doing what you do. But a
mere Adrian, Alex c Alex A Mondo, Madison, Teddy the
Show Dog, Daniel O'Connor, Vey, Logan, cam Beach, Barcelar, Ali Muffins,

(54:46):
Sunday Cassie, Goldie Brother, pitt Og, Skinny Ruvi, Mark Carnes,
Chris Frankeino, Jennifer Erica, and Elvis.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Let's a good one, right there, Daniel.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
Five simple questions, brother, we have to do the high
five Brett. So question number one, I know you said
you don't really smoke anymore, but I know you did.
How old are you the first time you smoked? And
where did you get.

Speaker 5 (55:05):
It from the first.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Time I saw Mommsen.

Speaker 5 (55:10):
The first time I smoked weed, I think I was sixteen,
fifteen or sixteen. The first time I bought wheed, I
bought a quarter, so that was that was interesting. And
then I sold it to my friends and I smoked
for free.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
I always a good deal, I guess.

Speaker 5 (55:24):
I guess since day one. It was always in my
blood to be quite for I think statue limitations should
be up.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
Good, okay, so it's a quarter. Yeah, it was a quarter.
So anyway, I started smoking, and I loved it immediately,
and I smoked almost probably every day for five years.
And then it got to the point where I was
smoking like eight months a day, and I got chronic
bronchitis from it, and I just you know, some other

(55:50):
things happened, but I decided that I was done smoking,
and I would become just an alcoholic instead.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Yeah, I like that. I know the filling very well.
I couldn't smoke my smoking that you're drinking.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
My drinking bumping to my bumping led the pumping, and
then you know, it was just a whole mess, was it.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Question number two of the high five, what is your
favorite way to use or smoke cannabis?

Speaker 5 (56:14):
I would say back in the back in the day.
You know, I went through lots of evolutions, from dabs
to vaporizers. I always loved the volcano. Yeah, that was
I always thought that was the most energetic. Speaking of
giggly highs, I mean I thought vaporizing it was. It
was a different experience. Yeah, And I really enjoyed that
high as it seemed to be more of an uplifting
high more than than anything else. So, I mean I

(56:36):
smoked a lot of blues though, too, and I and
I dabbed quite a bit at some point too, So
I mean I did it all. But I think the volcano,
like at its time, yeah, like back when I started smoking,
I mean like it was.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
A party, true revolutionary. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:49):
Between that and the gravity bong. With the gravity bong
was scary because people would like throw up. But yeah,
but now they have that, they have that gravity bong
like all my guys are.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
Like they're they're like.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
My sales guys are like selling those things.

Speaker 6 (57:00):
The people like.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
A good relationship. I don't know what company that is,
so shout out to them because they're apparently working. Give
my sales guys some little.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
Exactly what is that company? Connor, Daniel and Connor.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
You don't know it.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
I know there's one called Grave that they do gravity bombs.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
I can't remember it. Saucy.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
No, They're everywhere there and they're cool and terrifying at
the same time. Because I don't smoke anymore. I actually
did smoke it a little bit with with my lawyer
which I want name, which no lawyer was. We we
came home drunk and I actually tried and I was like,
this is this still pretty cool?

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Blunts?

Speaker 4 (57:39):
Would you wrap with?

Speaker 8 (57:42):
Oh, geez, duchies nice almost student glass student glass student
glass student students student.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
That's it. That sounds great.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
Good job, Daniel, way to find that for him. I'm
sure Connor didn't, and you gave him the tip way
to go. Question number three of the High Brett Worley
is in the building president of mc Nutraceuticals. Go check
them out. Craziest place she ever used cannabis or smoked cannabis.

Speaker 5 (58:09):
Oh geez, that is a tough one. What is the
craziest place I've ever Ah?

Speaker 4 (58:16):
What country were you in? Yeah, don't let the CEO
of your company house.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
I remember in Thailand, I asked I was messing with
this guy. I asked him for a kilo of weed,
just for just for ships and giggles, and he told
me four and fifty dollars on the spot, and I
ended up he gave me some weed. So I've smoked
we in Thailand like way back in the day. And
for some reason, I asked him how much akuilo was.
I don't know why, but I did. What the street

(58:44):
market value is? H it was in Thailand. I'm always
interested in numbers, So you know, what's what's the.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
A good question? Magazines out in Thailand? Now? Yeah, just
license our magazine.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
I heard we're starting to do some business over there too.
I I think I smoked whed in China, which is probably.

Speaker 6 (59:02):
The serioust place.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
Yeah, yeah, lucky, Yeah. I think we ran after we
hit it, like we were at like an expat bar
and I think we hit it and we just just
got away immediately. Just it's I mean, it's serious over there.
And I was just in Dubai, you know. I got
back on Saturday, and like I was warned by like

(59:23):
three hundred people, like just like, don't do anything. It
doesn't matter what it is, just stay away from it.
Which honestly, I sometimes I think, you know, drugs, you
just do them when you're board kind of a thing.
So I was like I had plenty to do. In Divine,
jumped out of an airplane for the first time ever,
which I was, Wow, it was I'm scared of heights,
so I were the night before we were at the

(59:43):
Birch Khalifa, the tallest building in the world. I looked
over and you know, get you get that feeling. But
I went up in that airplane. I was the first
to jump. I think it was my height. I don't
think they want to put me in the back of
I was. I was like on the verge of them
not letting me jump. I was five kilos underweight and
the height seemed to be quite a problem. How tall
are you in centimeters? I'm like, I have no idea

(01:00:04):
probably six three taller than that. Anyway that I wasn't.
It was amazing. I suggest anyone that's scared of heights,
I guess because you're strapped in because you obviously have
to tandem. Like, I think that made me feel more comfortable.
I will say the guy I was with who jumped
before was way more terrified than I was, So I

(01:00:24):
don't know what it was. I mean, like, I am
scared of heights, and I never had that gut reaction
at all ever, even jumping out of the guy that
jumped more. Yeah, yeah, he was.

Speaker 6 (01:00:34):
He was.

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
I looked at him. I'm like, oh, he's nervous, and
I'm just like sitting there, I'm just like, guy, No,
maybe maybe the guy jumped before. I'm not talking about
your friend. That would be very concerning. Yeah, this guy

(01:00:55):
jumped like three thousand times that I jumped.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
You know, it's funny when I walk around here candem
just to practice, just like after the show, practice jumping win.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
I don't know, but it's practice. We jumped this morning. Man,
it was.

Speaker 5 (01:01:10):
It was a fun experience, but at the same time,
I feel like I gotta go do it again because
I was like, I feel like I was in kind
of shock of jumping out of there. Like once again,
I wasn't scared, but I feel like I was wasn't
soaking it all in as much as I should have.
But I have, like I paid for this three and
a half minute video. It's like it's like, you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Gotta do it, jump out.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
I'll show you. It's pretty funny. It's like literally hype video.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Yeah, it's an almost death video as well.

Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
They're like, what do you have to say to your
family or whatever? I just said, don't take all my
ship when I die, is what I said.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Ship Question number four of the High five what is
your go to munchie after you get high?

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
Talkies were heard Trader Joe's talkies. Yeah, Trader Joe's talkies
they're the same.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
Oh yeah, I mean that's where I get him from.
I don't know, but talking still yeah, yeah, talking, he.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Just goes Are they different there? I didn't know that either.
I just.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
I know is there everywhere I like, there's a I
have these Mexican as I was saying, I go to
Cabo a lot, there's a I don't even know what
they're called, but I order them on Amazon. There are
just these like Mexican chips, best ships ever had. I like,
I like hot stuff, so anything flaming hot, flaming hot cheetahs,
love Gatorade when I'm high to you know, anything, because

(01:02:26):
I don't. I mainly just drink water. So it's nice
to get it. The things taste different when you're high.
Oh yeah, yeah, so I you know. And then I
mean obviously taco bell right, I mean, so that's just
wrong with.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
Taco about I just pulled over and grabbed me two
tacos the other day and it was like three bucks whatever,
it was still and I went, you know what, it's
the same taste that. It's just that ground beef, that cheese,
the lettuce and a.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Couple of tomatoes on top dog. It's perfect. It really is,
Like you can't front on a taco Taco bells, there's
no neutral. I mean, it's ground beef.

Speaker 5 (01:02:58):
I mean, I like to think of myself as a
food style. But man, I don't get me wrong, it's amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
I was ready to go like this, we can we
can go and grab a twenty pack of tacos, twenty
bean and cheap burritos and wipe everything here.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Guys eat them like it's not bad. It's not that bad.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
It gets a bad wrap and I think I just
gets a certain age and it's like, that's not that good.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
I was hungry as hell, don't get it twisted, and
I was driving it and.

Speaker 5 (01:03:25):
I was it's like immune from inflation.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Like talking to you right now, who who?

Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
Yeah, it's immune from inflation.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:03:33):
The dollar menu will always be the same.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
I love Taco Bell. I love it, the two dollars menu.
I don't think they have a dollar menu there anymore
anywhere they do? They do?

Speaker 5 (01:03:46):
They all taco are like immune from inflation.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
With del Taco too much dog. I like Taco Bell
more than.

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
We don't play some Texa called Taco and they actually
use organic, like real ingredients and it is phenomenal. Where
is that it's in text? I think it should Texas,
They're like Taco Casa it is.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
It's like I think my little cousin was a spokesman
for that. Angela Johnson, the comedian, was think.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
It's really really good. It does ship on Taco Bell
to be fair.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Wow, let's go to Texas.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
Question number five of the high five Brett Worthy's in
the building.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
It's been a great time. Damn, we've been rolling with you.
Look at this time we've been talking. We don't normally
go this long.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
Hey dog, we don't talk to people this long, Brett,
but you're so interesting. Yes, if you can smoke cannabis
with anyone dead or alive, who would it be and why?

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:04:33):
So in college we always said that we wanted me
and my buddy who smoked a lot of weed. Is
we we smoked. We claimed that we smoked so much
weed is because if the day came where we had
to out smoke Whiz and snoop, we wanted to be
able to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
So that's my answer, and that was in Arkansas.

Speaker 5 (01:04:50):
That was when I was in Arkansas dropping out of college.

Speaker 6 (01:04:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Nice, maybe one class, folks. We know that we know
the drill. Well, Brett, listen, is there. It's been a
pleasure having you on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Is there anything that we forgot that you might want
to mention before we that you get on out of here?

Speaker 6 (01:05:04):
Bud uh No.

Speaker 5 (01:05:05):
I think I think we covered everything. I mean, you know,
just just a brief description. You know, we're the largest
raw materials fire in the world essentially, and we supply
everywhere so please reach out to us if you need
anything from us. Also, if you need any help with
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with your state's government, feel free to reach out to

(01:05:25):
us for that too.

Speaker 6 (01:05:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
Appreciate you, brother, Yeah, thank you so much. Brett.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
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