Zahur Lalji of the Award Winning, Wheelhouse Cannabis Dispensary™!

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(01:44):
I mean not only the story of persevering through the
roughest waters so the finance and banking industry to ultimately
becoming one of the big movers and shakers in the
cannabis game folks like today's this dude Z writer sitting
next to us, the director of Willhouse, like Z, I
can't wait for you to break down this story and

(02:05):
game because it's a part of a story that literally
could be in a movie. And if it's not already,
I mean, I don't know, and maybe it is, right
if not, some of the people associated with it are
in movies. With this cannabis movement that has gone on
in the early stages of what of the pioneer ones?
So Z is right there with us, says Willhouse is

(02:27):
a series of cannabis dispensaries and now lounges now which
is dope, not just focused on selling cannabis, but rather
a business set on changing the live of others, which
I love the whole mindset and can't wait to dig
into the mind of mister Z. Right here. As Willhouse
addresses community issues head on, right, I want to know
how they're doing this as well, so Z, how are

(02:49):
you doing that head on and provides much needed assistance
to others through community services. I heard about how you're
doing some of that educational programs. I can't wait to
hear your educational views, especially what's going down right now
currently in the news, uh with America going from Schedule
one to Schedule three, as well as community activisms. The
guys been out there doing this thing as teams doing

(03:11):
their thing. There are a high standard you guys of
customer service and they are leading the way. At Wilhelse.
What do I mean by that? They received the twenty
twenty the twenty twenty one Best Marijuana Dispensary Award for
Inventora County. I mean retort. This is all this like
reporting stuff basically right, Oh who does this? Who does that? Well,

(03:32):
you got to follow Willhelse to see who's really doing
this because on ig it's Willhelse dot vip or check
out their websites. Willheluse pH dot com right there and
dropping on z and say what's up to as many locations,
Where where the hell is Portsjuanma.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Portwaanini is in Ventura County. It's little, yeah, it's where
of the naval bases. It's a one and a half
mile radius city that was the first to go live
with cannabis in Ventura County and they were able to
get twelve dispensaries out there in this one mile radius.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
So it's called the Green Mile, and they were the
first ones to do it.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
So it's a little city that took a chance and
took the city from potentially not profitable to much more
profitable location.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
How do how does that store do for you in
such a suburban area where it's a military base and
they're not supposed to be heavy consumers, but.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
Others no, So I'll be straightforward. We have no military customers.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
We have veterans, but none of them that there active
duty because they obviously have rules and regulations and they
follow their jobs and they're very disciplined individuals. The city,
as I said, is the county was. It was the
first city in the county, so we really got business
from all the county.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
So it's a very successful business.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
At the very beginning because again you're the first one
in town and the only one in town, and we
have a lot of people.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
It's called the monopoly.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
It's not much fun, but you do win a lot
of money, right in the sense that we captured a
lot of customers. Now there's about thirty stores. Venturo went live,
we have a location there too, and Auxnard went live too,
which there's about sixteen stores there that are in the
pipeline or some have open, So competition has become real
and we've have to become a real business. The good

(05:23):
part is my partners and I have always been a
real business and we've ran our business not based on
what the market says, but running it from a financial
background of making sure we're profit right. And we've always
been mom and pop operators where we actually show up
to work.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
So if you ever do show up, actually there, I'm
always there.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
You'll pull up, you'll see Z at one of the locations,
whether it be Venice and now coming soon to Coasta Mesa.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Yeah, Coast to Mesa's in the pipeline.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
That one was a little bit of a fun game,
and it's still fun game and it's still gonna be a challenge.
It's still out there, but it's still in the pipeline
and we're still hoping to get it.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Well, you know, just hearing this, seeing this and knowing
what an entrepreneur you are, and you know, knowing what
cannabis talk one on one is hearing the stories of
these guys and your guys just journey and I say
your guys is because I am so intrigued because I've
heard this story from his side. When I say his side, folks,
I'm referencing to mister Christopher ak a Blue aka mister

(06:18):
mouth wearing guard. Hey Joe, Hey Joe, you want to
look at me? Hey Joe. Right before the show, Hey Joe,
I'm like, dude, we're gonna start the show and I'm
gonna talk about what the hell's in your mouth? So
now that we're on the show, what was it? Well,
you know what I'm talking about. What are you wearing
in your mouth before the show that made you look
like Darth Vaders cousin. You know, it's.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Funny because my buddy, my buddy has u you know,
these new veneers that you pomp in right, and and
he put them on and and I was like, damn
you he look great, you know whatever, you know. So
he was like, yeah, you gotta try a dude. You know,
they go on there.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
So you grab no, no, no, disgusting. No.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I got my own hold on, okay, a pipe. But
they wouldn't even go as far as a few other things.
It wouldn't fit come on, but that one. So I
ended up I ended up getting the molds right and
doing it. And then because I did want to get
Veneers from the actual Veneers, right, So I got the

(07:17):
pop ons and I put them on.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
I thought for sure he was going to say something
I did.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
I just say you had very pretty teeth a few
minutes ago.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, a few minutes or another terrible familiarly perfect like
I wanted to mcflurry or some type of McDonald's because
I thought he was Ronald McDonald's mouth with those fucking veneers.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
I was like, dude, what is he a character or
like a McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
The thing is is that you don't know when you
when you first, when you see someone every day, it's
a huge exactly when you don't, though, it's not.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
A big no no, I disagree.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
I did notice them, but that's like noticing somebody with
a two pey and calling him out on it.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, yeah, you know what. Blue eighth the one to
act like, oh what like he and you know before
Joe Joe like he's just like little brother. Do you
see this? Do you see this? And I'm like waiting
to start this, tell me saying there with his chops
over But it's just so funny. But it's great to

(08:12):
have you here and just to do this show because
break down the story for me Ze. I mean, we
just kind of explained what we'll talk about some of
these dispensaries and how you've done. But obviously you've done
pretty well. Why I've just named three cities that you're
active in, one that you're about to get active in
in a very dominant California market that's hard as help

(08:33):
to be in. Right, and now Blue is putting on
his gay face killer mouthpieces, which I'm not mad at
and I might have to order some. But I want
your side because I've heard this story, and you know
what people you have to you've heard parts of this story,
but you just don't realize it. And you didn't know
Z was part of the story on this show. So

(08:55):
they'refore Z, how did you meet Christopher? Right? And there
it is.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
He tried to hit on me and I said, no.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
You're at the same right that's where I met him.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Gave me I got the ring, bro.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Spot you, Joe, just hold the putter that one before.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
So surprising enough, I didn't get to meet Chris, heard
his name quite a bit.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
I had an investor.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
We had got a location in LA We still have
that location. It's not Wheelhouse, but it's another location that
we have that I had partnered with some partners with
and then we took some investors on and then we
had what the era had at time, which was you know,
defraud and people sold us a fake license. So then
our investors you know, had to obviously back up their

(09:47):
money and make.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
Sure they did what they did.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Good news at the end is they reinvested in us
and our partners. And Chris was one of the reasons
that it all went into place, and he had a
license that was availed and he was going into this
path of his life and I was going in that
path of my life because I had just left banking.
And the other partner again that was in the cannabis

(10:11):
much longer, had the skill set and the experience of cannabis.
I had the financial background. And then we had investors
with the money, and so the investors with the money
backed us up again met Chris, introduced us to Chris,
We verified the license, and we acquired that license from Chris,
and we actually are in business because this gentleman was

(10:33):
part of that process.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
So is it fair to say.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
I'm in the business because Chris?

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Is it fair to say Christopher Wright aka blue CEO
of Cannabis Talk one oh one helped encourage the steps
for Willhouse.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
Absolutely, that's amazing.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
It's every step because the reality is every road you take,
you have to go through many paths. You have to
take many steps, good ones, bad ones, falls cracked. My
other partner was run the other day. He forgot how
to run. He didn't lift his leg high enough. He
fell on his face. Right, you got to remind yourself
how to run again. Sometimes sometimes you got to pick
yourself up. No, I wish I was. I make serious

(11:14):
and the guy was a professional runner. I'm doing that
just to piss him off, because when he hears this podcast,
knows exactly what I'm talking about. Somebody said, speak from
the heart and to the camera to you he loves you. Yeah,
but the reality is we have a lot of steps
to take, and that was one of the biggest challenges.
I just left a banking career where I'm used to

(11:36):
sitting in a corporate office, somebody doing ninety percent of
the work and I do get all one hundred percent
of the credit. And I just have a fancy title
in a beautiful office. Right, and then I leave the Canada.
I leave that world of safety security, worrying a monkey
suit all day to join the cannabis world, and people
tell me, don't do it, don't do it. It's they're criminals.
And then the very first one I deal with is

(11:58):
a criminal. So it wasn't fun and wasn't exciting.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Christopher Wright was the first one you go with exactly,
And you know that's what I love about him too.
As long as we all put the cards on the table,
let's talk.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
Yeah, he was straightforward.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
People like that.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
He had something we needed to buy something. We came
to a deal and and it worked itself out, and
everybody's sitting here today talking you know, you know things
z is.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
That I think a lot of people don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Like what you're referring to is is that you know,
people have these licenses and we weren't sure whether or
not they were completely you know, going to be legal
or not.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
At that time.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
We we we had these licenses and we weren't sure
if you know, the license you were having in your
hand and the contract you had was real because it
could have been a copy and and and and we
weren't sure whether or not there was you know, you know,
a shadow around this license in this number, you two

(13:01):
knowing that you oh, I thought that I knew mine
was good but okay, so okay, but everybody else can
feel that way in general. But you knew one thou well,
like this is solid. Mine was good, but I'm saying
there was. I mean, I had sold my license three times.
I've told him this, you know, and I bought it
and then I bought it back from somebody because they
didn't know what to do with it.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Then I had it over here, and then you know,
and it was moved around several times.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
But when it came to them, they actually knew what
to do with it, right, and and and again that's
that same exact conversation that he's saying, like, look, you know,
you have to go through a lot of different doors
and a lot of different tunnels to find the right
hole on the right, you know.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
And and that's exactly it. I mean, I you know,
the entrepreneurs is not easy like that, you know. I mean,
just think, dude, Look, I mean it's just too funny
because one may think and say, wow, Blue, look what
you could have owned. This could have been you right
wheelhouse easily think because that could easy? Did it come
on no problem. I mean he could have well maybe

(13:56):
and maybe, and he's done a lot of other great things.
Don't get me wrong, it's phenomenal. But it's the paths
you take.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
You know.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
It's not a good or bad. I'm not dissing, I'm
on it. I'm just saying it's funny how one could
look at it that way, right, even from Afar, even
us amongst clothes. But I think amongst us we all
realize our paths are our paths, and it's just funny.
But from abroad, you're listening going fuck Blue? Is that you?
That could have been?

Speaker 5 (14:18):
You don't know. Blue and I were just talking about this.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
We were just talking offline and we said, if, right now,
if somebody told you you never have to worry about
the roof over your head, clothes on your back, or
food on the table, what would you do he goes
take over the world. Yeah, because there's nothing to lose now.
We have the bare minimums that we know to. We
can eat, sleep, and clothe ourselves. If we can do that,

(14:42):
we can take on any challenge in the world. That's
what we work hard for, is to do that for
our next generation and our next generation of our families,
and again, why are we sitting here. He's become a
successful individual. I'm still trying to build my success and
that's why I'm here so I can get more successful
through his talk show. See I'm going to get this again.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Twice. He helped me out once. I'm trying to get
another helping hand. Right.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
No, and you've done what you're doing. Let's say, look
what you've done. You've got a company that went from
one to two to three to now you know, different cities,
this and that, possibly potential multi state operator. I'm sure
that's just want to state California two.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
Hour drive maximum, I got kids?

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Well, you know what, and that's a good thing. So
where are you at? Where's home plate?

Speaker 5 (15:27):
Where's the Venture County? You're you're in Ventura and three
four years of Ventura County.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
Yeah, I came from Africa to Glendale, from Glendale to Camerio,
and I'm still in Camerario.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
So then you know of Roses, I love.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
The first Persian places there usion Armenian.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
I love exactly the best. Bob ever.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
My close friend, what's up, mister Omi Jafrudi, Him and
his dad took me there for the first time in
a beautiful limousine and I got to enjoy a great
meal with the family.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
It's one of those places, right like we're gonna go
what Raffi's and a limo?

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Yeah no, no, it's more like, hey, this is a
great event. The whole family can get together. Let's take
everybody in one car and enjoy one meal together. And
I got to celebrate that family meal with them. So
thank you your fruities.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Love you. Not being better than breaking bread with people
like that, I swear I've always felt that which one
of the best things to do with people.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
You see how to eat, how sloppy they really are,
and like I really like this.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Feel someone day the day was like you like to
eat your hands, and I'm like I do, Like it's
it's it's just I enjoy eating my hands.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
You know, I'm You're fer food.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
It's even if it's like like I mean random stuff
I eat. You know, I'll grab chicken, you know if
it's like like not just like a chicken do it
off our plates too, though.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
You'll take a piece of chicken breast just.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Like I'm looking at like family style, like that's what
you do in your dad, uncle, like big brother, like
what do you who is that over there?

Speaker 5 (16:54):
And we're.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
That's the sign of the fact that you will eat
because you want to eat. That's really that comes down to, Yeah,
I don't need a four.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
I want to taste that food that's on your plate
because it looks so good.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
My background, I'm Indian and my wife is Moroccan, so
we eat a lot with our hands.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
Anyways, dolls, the curries, the Moroccan dishes.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
They normally Moroccans only have a tajin and then the meal,
the full meals there and then you sit around that
dish and everybody, everybody grabs a piece of bread and
right out of that Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Holy soup, I grab rice.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
I put rice in my in my hand and you
know I yeah, a little salted butter.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
My boys from Morocco. I become Moroccan when it's Ramadan
because when they break the fast, I want to eat
that soup.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
And the way they o my wife I love it.
Family makes that so good.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Oh so good.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
So my wife can cook. I'm gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
I wish I enjoyed more that style food, Like I
don't eat much Indian food. I've been very westernized, as
my uncle says that I'm a coconut brown on the outside,
very Caucasian on the inside, and we grew up very
poor here. So for me, what think I eat most
of my life growing up fast food, right.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
Because it's cheap, easy, and it's easy to feed.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
And if I met the Boys and Girls Club or something,
while I'm taking you to McDonald's on the way home,
and you're.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
Eating that right, So for me, I'm very that way.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Now.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
The more I eat her food, the more I realized, Wow,
that's savoring. And the more people that come over to eat,
they keep coming back for more. So it's she's a fantastic,
fantastic cook.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
See, I want to pick your brain a little bit
more about your entrepreneurship as far as like you come
from the Bakony world. I get. But what college did
you go to?

Speaker 5 (18:34):
Didn't?

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Oh wow, I was wondering. I didn't see that online.
It didn't. Okay, So no college. So you get your
bread working at a bank, and that's what's built you
up to get into the CA.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
So I've always been good at sales. I did get
accepted to some universities. I did well in the SATs
and all that fun. So I'm not crazy good, but
just decent enough to get into school at the time. Unfortunately,
my dad didn't want to pay for my school. He
said go work for it yourself. And then I went
to go work. The problem was I liked money more
than I liked to go back to school. Yeah, and
then every job I worked, I worked it in and

(19:08):
when that was high school time, so basically I was
delivering papers I was doing working at McDonald's, I was
doing whatever, right I did.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
Yeah, yeah McDonald's mother. My mom was my manager. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
And so growing up like that, having to work work,
and then finally, at twenty I became a teller at
a bank. Then it was literally July nineteen ninety six.
I turned twenty one in July nineteen ninety six. Now
I just aged myself, and at twenty one I killed it.
As a teller. I became the number one teller in

(19:42):
the Thousand Oaks branch out of all the tellers. Five
months later, somebody's asked me if I want to be
a banker. I'm like, sure, I'll be a banker. Six
months later, they're offering me another banking position. Six months later,
they're offering me the manager position. I had to decline.
I wasn't ready. Nfortunately, one of my managers left and
I had to run the branch for three months, and

(20:04):
I knew I wasn't ready. So they said, you ran it,
you can do it. You'll learn on the way, and
I said, no, I'll take deny. Let me have somebody
else come and I'll learn.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
And I did that. Then I became the manager.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Then I was in retail for the few years, and
then I went into commercial and business banking and I
learned how to be a business development office for special
deposits and treasure management for banking. Then I became the
area manager for treasure management specialty banking.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
Then I went to another bank, and then I went
to another bank.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Finally left as senior vice president of specially Deposits commercial
bank for at the time Woolshire Bank. And then I
one of my clients had asked, Hey, buy me a bank.
My brother in law made a million dollars more than
me last year and he owns a bank in Texas,
so buy me a bank.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Like I wish much respect. I love you for thinking
me that I'm like that guy that can just go
out and buy Oh.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Yeah, let me hold on check and can we camemb
my phone? Please?

Speaker 5 (20:57):
No, No, he had the money.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
He showed me here, like you're just like to get
a bank for you.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
And so it did kind of work out that way.
I called the guy named Greg, Greg Baker. He used
to work at Wells Fargo with me, and I knew
he went to the private equity side and he knows
these people. Yeah, so we tried to buy bankers out
of Barbara and that was really about it. And then
we decided it doesn't make sense because Dodd Frank was there.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
Didn't make financial sense. So then we decided to go
towards cannabis banker.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Right.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
That's what I called my partner who's my partner now, Sergio,
And I said, hey, Sergia, you're in the cannabis space.
You've been in it for a while. You have a
dispensary in San Diego, and tell me what do you need.
He's let's let's have some breakfast. And so we had
breakfast in Marmalade cafe, me a lawyer, CPA and him,
and all of a sudden we're in Santa Barbara trying
to run a cannabis dispensary and then we got La

(21:41):
and then we went to Orwaanimi, Ventura, Venice and now
close to Mesa hopefully.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
And did you guys, what'd you guys do in the banking?
Was that you guys created.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
Anything a chance? We didn't even do it because I
got into the dispensary world.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, that's how random is that?

Speaker 4 (21:58):
So that's that wasn't my career path. It wasn't planned.
People know how you do it? I go lock a little.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Bit of luck and not only that. Well, here's the thing.
Let me ask you this. Were you consuming cannabis while
having all those jobs? Yes, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (22:12):
And then you know I mean, if I had the
fifty to fifty fill the dice, you know you you
participated in hustling some weed around.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Nope, no, never, never, never, But you knew people that did.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Yes, I've always id I did buy so I so
for me, I guess you.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Bought it from somebody if you, I mean you still
did it?

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Right?

Speaker 3 (22:28):
What I guess did? I just you held it and I've.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
Been held No, no, no, no, I bought an ounce forward,
I loot announced. I never bought, I never sold it,
never made money from it. But I did buy it
or were given it most of the time for free.
My friend was a grower and he would give me
announced every month and that's all I would smoke for
the whole month.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
It's a good friend right there, especially back in the
days like that. We got wheelhouse in the building, folks,
he's here. Check this out. Is when we come back,
I want to do the thing. It's like our version
of what would you do? Right? You've seen that right
and it's on Cannabis Talk one on on blue with
Joe groandeis answer this question, what would you do if
someone walked in here and said, why are you all

(23:07):
smoking that devil's lettuce? Why are you allowing these kids
to buy this? You goddamn druggies. You are one to hell.
That's easy, okay, Well I want your five minute pitch.
It's Cannabis Talk one oh one. Is Ethan Wilholse. When
we get back, how does he talk to that person?

Speaker 1 (23:23):
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(23:43):
Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one on one.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Number one during your typical into something special folks, when
it comes in. You've products today in case joys to
bring in your experience. Make sure you check out the
website laranoils dot com. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one
on one with Blue and Joe Brande. It was number
one source for everything in cannabis. Before we went to break,
we asked Ze, what would you do and say to

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someone who walked in here and said, you're all going
to help or small the man and devil let us.
I don't know why I put that extra accent on
it like that, like someone's gonna say it that way.
They could come and say it just as well as
I'm talking now. And you know, either way, you're all
sinners and you're druggies, and you're probably you know, not

(24:30):
good people. And you know if that person was here today, Connor,
welcome in. Please, Jennifer cut she is. I'm skidding, that's okay.

Speaker 6 (24:40):
I have an answer, right, So this is your times
you to take the floor and give those uneducated type
of people your five minute like educated taking opinion.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Of course you know it's your opinion. And then they're
gonna have some facts I'm sure of why cannabis is
so great to you and and how you have seen
this plan help and benefit so many others from I mean,
who are you kidding? From infants to aging people that
are dying, to people that are in wheelchairs in front
of us right now, so ze five minute pitch. The
floor is yours. Well, she's sitting right there looking at you.

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Oh he is.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
No, No, that's okay. Let me give you. I'll look
at the camera right to your right there the camera
is the person. So good news is.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
I did have to go to a council hearing where
I was the only pro cannabis individual. I had a
church group that literally felt this way and said that
throughout the hearing and I purposely put my card in
the last so i'd speak last and get out.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Of there as fast as possible.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
But unfortunately somebody was after me and I had to
deal with the crowd afterwards. And the guy said that,
So what I said to the individual, I said, let
me just ask you one question and we can have
an educated conversation. And the question is is that your
daughter And it was a sixteen yearl daughter and she
had come up to speak and that was one of
her things, get away from the kids and not you know,
my child is here. Don't get over cannabis and all

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that stuff.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
So when we went out there, don't smoke weed around.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Yeah, you're going to create a bad habits a gateway drug,
all the negative stereotypes. But I said, you know what,
let's start with one question and then we can talk.
If you can't answer, you as the first question. And
as he goes, what's the question, I said, your daughter here, sixteen,
as you said, if a doctor said she's going to
live or die and she has to take cannabis to live,
would you give it to her? And he looked at

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his wife and everybody around him, and he couldn't answer
the question. And I said, so, if you're that closed
minded that you can't save your own daughter's life as
somebody says, this is going to kill her or keep
her alive, we cannot have a conversation. We are not
in the same conversation space because if you are willing
to be at least have Because a mind is like

(26:46):
a parachute, it only works when it's open, right, So
if we can't even have an open argument, then it's
already a decision that he's closed.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
If you can't go there for death, then we can't
go there.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yeah, we can't go there. We can't if your own daughter.
As I'm a parent and I know I would do anything,
I will take heroin.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Okay, now see you ready, Yes, let's go there. Now
we have the person that says, okay, but only if
they're dying.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
Agreed. So he did do that.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
He came to my shop, he visited my shop, he
did every educational thing, and then he came back to
me and said, I'm still not going to support cannabis.
And I said, I agree, but can I say thank you?
He's like, why are you thinking me? At least you
did some homework and then you made an educated decision.
Just like I don't like certain things for my life,

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I understand you don't like this for yours.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
I love the fact when people do that as well.
I've always been asking and encouraging. As a matter of fact,
if you know the person that hates cannabis, and I
want to talk to them, just like you said, and
I want to tell me more. And I'm not going
to try to discourage you though, I just want you
to encourage me to think this sway.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
I want you to convince me to exactly.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
I want you to encourage me that cannabis is the
day and you just think it is. And I want
that person on this show so bad, right, Like I've
been wanting that.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Should I bring him so I can bring you know
some that's the guy. I can bring that guy? He
still talk to him, We don't. He doesn't like cannabis,
he doesn't like the business that I'm in. Will he
likes I can ask him. I was the head of
the church and the entire church is anti cannabis, and
he's the leader for that that movement.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
I would love to talk to the he's a nice
guy too, and I'm sure he is.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
He's a nice guy.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Back to my point is like I think there's respectable,
presentable conversations like this and I hate to say it,
but it's it's just like politics. And if you can't
fucking sit here and talk openly about it, but then
you're just an idiot in.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
My either way, lock yourself in the bubble, right because no, he.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Told me this way. It's the same concept with cannabis.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
I agree, concurred, and anything to be honest with you,
every anything, anything. Anything people believe, ex people will believe
why We've all been raised in different ways in different cultures.
I've traveled quite a bit, so I've been very fortunate
to see a lot of different cultures and see what
different beliefs are like. Even my wife just being from Morocco.
We have different ways of seeing things and the way

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that education system, everything, livelihood, perception, what's happiness and what's
not all defined differently by what you were taught and
what you were brought up, by your nature and your nurture.
So you can't blame somebody for being taught something for
all their life. And if they are at least open
minded and go and do a little research and they

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get a little bit more open minded.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
We made a great movement. We made a great movement.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Cannabis industry saw a great, great movement when in twenty
twelve to twenty twenty, when you saw in every magazine,
at every grocery store, you didn't have to market if
you owned cannabis because everybody was looking for cannabis. And
now cannabis has become normalized. It's a normal business. It's
looking at being descheduled. We're talking, we talk.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Which now you know as this real error schedule we
went from a schedule one to a schedule three. You've
already talked about this a little bit. I haven't gotten
my chops around it, nor have I dialed in on
more than one story. And I like to listen to
the Fox News version, the CNN version, in the MSNBC

(30:22):
version of the story Store to Speak, and maybe a
CBS version, and then do my own readings of some
other readings. It is like, you know, my point is,
that's how I like to absorb and then read a little.
And maybe my read might be LA Times, New York Time, whatever,
or El Nazir is another one. I like to get

(30:43):
my other random back from. And then once I get
all those and I let me think about all the
different sides I just heard from right there of the
way you're pitching me this fucking story. So that all
being said, Zee, how are you interpreting this story right
now that we're hearing that's being presented as cannabis will

(31:03):
move from a schedule one to a schedule three? How
do you present that to the cannabis community and what
it means in your layman's terms?

Speaker 4 (31:13):
Well, so I've spoken to first Jane, one of my consultants,
Abraham Finberg, my accountant, spoken to my partner Sergio. I've
spoken to my partner Andy. I've spoken to a bunch
of people we've all started doing the same thing, reading, writing, reviewing,
and then I've also spoken to politicians, and I've spoken
to other individuals and a lot.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Of anecdotal stuff, right like that. Thank you for saying that.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Yeah, because it's important for me to understand everybody's Oh.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
I love that you said this because now it gives
me so much more weight of your opinion and I
can't wait to hear.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
Yeah, it made very simple in the short term, we believe,
we believe. Again, we don't know the process, so we're
playing believe. But any process takes time. When you built
this business, you didn't get one hundred people on the
show right away that we're celebrities. It took it time
to get to that level to be where you guys
are at today. So just the same thing. To build anything,
it takes time. Just like the Cannabis Bureau licensing, everything

(32:10):
took time. So it's going to take time to implement processes, procedures,
reviews and all this stuff. So immediately, we see this
as good news as a retailer because hopefully now we
can write off all our expenses, actually be a normalized
business and have more normalized taxes. Other side of the
coin is, well, who else is going to come in

(32:31):
the business. The other side of the coin is now
money can come into business now. The other side of
the coin is FDA is going to rule it. The
other side of the coin is they're gonna have interstage
interstate transfers. Are there's so many variables to the process.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
But that are inevitable of the process.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
It's becoming what I call normalized business, and it hash
to happen, and forgetting if it happens or doesn't irrelevant.
As an entrepreneur, your key responsibility is to remain fluid
with the business. If monopoly changes its rules and you
want to play monopoly, you got follow the rules.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
You got to play by the rules.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
So either be flexible and be the fluid to change
to the rules, or be what I call my one
of my favorite books, one of the easiest books to read,
Who Moved My Cheese? It's the two Mice that.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
I remember it well. I worked at Pow Pig Boy,
there you go. My boss gave it to us, Jimmy Steele.
I'll never forget it.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
And it was a great book. Give us the I
love hearing other people's version of it. What's your bbated
version of the book, Give us the bottom line.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
So for me, reading that book and looking at the
parallels was looking at what we do at the radio station.
Don't let somebody else come in there and take your gig,
because what we do, like we're a morning show and
you know, everybody wants this. Everybody wants what bat cheese.
Don't move your cheese dog. So my point is, I

(33:58):
remember the parallel of like why he gave it and
we all talked like we read it and we talked
about it on some like what does it mean to us?
Will you guys see the parallels? Yes, And we talked
about that. So my point is it was good for me,
like it stood out of my head.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
It should be good for everybody because one of those.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Good learning books that builds team bonded you because and
hopefully everybody sees it that well.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
Even if you don't even team, the bonding and you
individualize it. The abbreviated version is there's two mice that
have cheese put in the same place every day and
they get fed. Then they decide the scientists decide to
move the cheese introduced to two new mice and two
old mice. The two old mice keep going to the
same place for the cheese that never exists, and the

(34:41):
two mice who never had cheese go hunting for the cheese.
The moral of the story is the two new mice
find cheese because they're hunters and they finally learn how
to feed themselves versus the two old mice that never
get fed and they end up obviously passing away. So
you always have to stay relevant. You always have to
know the cheese is moving, the food is always moving.
You have to stay fluid, you have to stay liquid.

(35:02):
You have to move with the cheese. So simply put,
if you want to get fed, chase them, chase the game.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
Play the game.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
And that's what you've done with your first one, which
is so awesome and hearing how you go from a
banker this and that, and you know, looking at the
pros and cons of what you've gone through, because lord knows,
I'm sure it hasn't been an easy ride, and all
the craziness of the laws and rules changing, and even
as just reaching as like you point out a couple

(35:32):
of days ago with this one to three. I like
your take on that, and my take as well is
when I looked at this, the thing that I love
the most, and no matter what, there's going to be
a lot of things that suck about getting there right,
But the thing I love the most is that we now,

(35:55):
as when I say we, as the United States of America,
could finally put the real money into the research. Yes,
that we can then say Joe, what we got Johnson.
Johnson's spending the money about a two hundred and forty
five pound mail for hip pain should take you know

(36:15):
this instead of for advils.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Well, one of the fastest growing markets and industries are
nurse practitioners that utilize cannabis for the adult care world.
So we do a lot of adult care help. We
do a lot of adult care health work with adult
care facilities, nonprofits and stuff that really want to give
the seniors a more comfortable transition. And it's amazing to

(36:42):
see how that is helping the community. How many more
elderly folks were having in the community that are supporting
the cannabis side of things, even people as closed minded
as my grandmother took ninety three years to get her
to try.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Cannabis from India.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
I mean actually were born in Africa. Yeah, five generations
were born in Africa, but we came back about in Africa,
Kenya and Irobi to be specific. Okay, still have a
lot of family out there, still have a lot of relations.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
I have a few friends. Like I said, my one
of my good friends is from Morocco. So he's shown
me and taught me a little bit of the area.
As you made fun of me and Moroccos. Well we'll
call him after after me, but I mean and his parents.
They work at the mosque over there, a Mission Viejo.
Like you know, I've been to the Moscule with his
dad on Fridays and him and just a good brother.
Like I just love.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
This was meant to be because my wife literally just said,
we need to find a mosque for girls.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Well the Mission Viejo one is a highly recommend oh way,
but she could make it happen exactly. And like I said,
I've been there, and I know that I know people
that's there you'll go with like, hey, I know somebody
in the.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Fact that they're Moroccan and they're gonna be speaking Arabic
is the bigger thing.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
And they're from Morocco. Exactly where you'll fire'll be making
exactly it'll be like where you're from. And that's why
I said Africa. I was like, oh, my boys are yeah,
you'll have we go to.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
We were just in Morocco. We go back regularly. Let's
give us where my wife's family is from. And one
of the nicest people. Food is great, has a lot
of Spanish. It's right on the border of Spain. You
can see Spain from the tip of Morocco because it's
northern Africa. And so you got Morocco, you got beaches,

(38:18):
You've got food, you got Italian influence, French influence. Markesh,
you're talking Lambos, Rolls, Royces and well.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah, I never realized, which is funny. See how Morocco
was the Beverly Hills of you know, quote unquote.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
Africa has the largest club in all of Africa.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
I mean, and then like I said, my boy lays
me up. But he was living in the suburbs, like
and he was like, now, Joe, it possably goes Joe.
Like presidents come and stay in Morocco when they come
to Africa. I was like, you're right, they have. I
was like Obama went there.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
Yeah, a lot of them.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
And I'm like, that's right. I just read goes so
many others in the past. Jeo Morocco is a new bought.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
The new king is from what I've seen from an
economic standpoint and from a a educational standpoint, he really
has supported his people and community and does really well.
And they just went to live with cannabis. Well, yeah,
you know, you hear your sponsor, your sponsor, Big Mike
Advanced Nutrients signed a contract in the capitol in robot

(39:19):
because he was there a week before I was there,
and he was out there signing a contract with the
Prime Minister or somebody or the head of AG or
something like that for being one of the nutrients company
supplying nutrients to the country of Morocco for cannabis.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
If I'm not mistaken, that's amazing.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
And I mean it's already been known. If you know
Morocco and you know hash that, you know, if you're
a part of the street life and so you're listening, going,
what are you talking about, Joe? Those who know know,
those who don't here you go. Ah, A lot of
hash in the world. Yeah, it comes Fromco, comes from Morocco. Ironically,

(40:00):
weirdly like that. Moroccan hash is like a known thing.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
The closest, the closest hash that I've tried. That's like
Moroccan hash. And God rest his soul is Frenchy from
uh from Frenchy's he used to the hash Cannoli.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Oh really, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Okay, remember him?

Speaker 3 (40:19):
You know, I'm Daniel Ye remember him. He got a
few years back.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
And he had he was he was French That's what
I call him, Frenchy and he knew. He went to
Morocco and he learned how to make the hash and
he started doing it. He built the company here and
he was one of my brands that I used to carry.

Speaker 5 (40:36):
Wow, Yeah, French Canoli and and it was amazing hash.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
It's just when you just think about people the world,
what comes from what? How Morocco is known for hash?
As in how is the Trifecta in Northern California known
for some of the most amazing outdoor.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
Beautiful too?

Speaker 3 (40:58):
What's the smell? What's this humble county feel of? Like whoo?
And you know it's just LA's got a cachet as well,
of course killer. But you know, it's like you think
of these places and it's funny that Morocco has one
of those.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
Yes, Rash, Well, that's the cool thing about it. It's it's.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
Cannabis has been around forever, man, and it's India, Morocco, Afghanistan.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
It's fucking amstradny hash I mean af Danny Kush.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
And this has been put seeds that were this when
we were younger, Like, oh, man, I remember in Afghanny
Cush when when I was fucking sixteen fifty two.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
To be honest, that's well the market in my age,
of the clientele that I am, They're like, can I
get all that old school strains? I want the old
school strains. Bring back the old school strains. Give me
my blue dream, give me my green crack, give me
my lambs bre.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
I'm telling you right now, Zee, if you come back
with a fucking three finger bag with some seeds in it.

Speaker 5 (41:59):
But here we go, here we Gomer.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Picked up a zip Again.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
I didn't come from that era. I just bought an
ounce from my boy. But here's the truth, here's the
funny factor.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
Ready, here.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
We were playing MythBuster. Right, somebody comes and says, marijuana
is the worst, It's horrible.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
Right.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Do you remember the times where they used to tell
you don't smoke marijuana seeds.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
This is your brain, this is your brain on.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
And I'll forget about the brain. Think about it this one.
If you smoke marijuana and seeds, you can't have kids.
You can't have babies. It affects your you just you know,
blah blah blah counts. And I got full babies.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Baby, yeah, I have three as well, and lord knows
how many others just crazy.

Speaker 5 (42:41):
And I smoked, man, I know, I went to Mexican
when I smoked some seeds too when I was there.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
Even Mexican reads should eat them, funny, that's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
We used to fucking be so fucked up, like, dude,
they're just we were so stupid and crazy, like I
didn't care. And I think I snorter one one time.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
But you've never had it again. I've never done any
of that. You know, is the blue collar You're not
the blue collar will goes the white collar.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
I was the white collar as long as there was
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(44:19):
there we go, right, And of course he's a board
vice president of Big Brothers and Sisters out of Ventura County,
which in my opinion is probably some of the best
work he really does. And the director of the big
shirt that I'm wearing right here at will House Cannabis Dispensary,
as I do mention that I want to point that
out because I too, z have done Big brother Big

(44:40):
Sister work for places, and still till this day am
very good friends mentor still to Mauricio Camal who lives
in Vegas, who when he was thirteen years old Virgie
I think Virgine yep me. He was in downtown LA
and I went to school there, came to power when

(45:01):
I was six when I worked out there and met him.
I mean, the man's thirty five. Now you know what
I'm saying. It's just so when I say this, that's
one great story, but there's several and then and then
this story gets even deeper because why Mauricio, who I
was a big brother too. I was like his dad,

(45:22):
meaning he watched his dad gets shot, right, and he's
been And then I had to like literally teach him
as a young Mexican boy to look people in the
eyes when you shake hands and look at like all
those little things like maybe a dad would tell you,
like he knows. I know. I taught him all because
of a fucking Big Brother program.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
I you can't imagine the smile you're putting on my
face and you.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
Know and you know the stories.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Yeah, that's why. That's why we do it, is my point.
And my point is telling me something a year because
I'm giving you mine, and I don't get to share
that on the show too much because it's not brought
up like this. And my and my point to you know,
you're gonna give me your story of one of your kids,
as I'm giving you one of my a list stories
of the kid that I still see who when I
go to Vegas and host something, he still shows up.

(46:09):
When I brought him on the show because he got cancer,
when I hooked him up with a company that's here
on the show called MJ's Wellness with my boy jo
g and helped him and put his cancer and remission.
I love it all from this and then came to
this and like.

Speaker 5 (46:23):
That, and there.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Was a guest on the show and all these guys
now I'm around here.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
It's the bottom line, he's now family.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
All big brothers. So give me a big brother story
that you just had, because that was my quick one.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
But I wish I was blessed enough. I was actually
told no to be a mentor. And that's how honest
the Big Brother in Big Sister program is. I was
a board member. I just joined as a board member,
and I was at the time going to be a mentor.
And I went through the whole process. Now, guys, it's
not easy to go through the process. You have to

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go through the whole background check, you go through a
bunch of interviews, you go through a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 5 (47:02):
Which is and it's good stuff. It's all positive stuff.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
I got all brought up stuff like okay, I explained
it all go we go.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
Yeah, and it was good.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
And then they'd say, okay, what style person or what
kind of child would you like to mentor they even
ask you that far because they asked the child the
same things.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
They really want to match.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
And that's what happened, because when there's a match, it
lasts a lifetime, and that's what we look for. So
when I was doing the matching side. They were ready
to match me and we were having a baby, and
they asked me, are you having a baby? Like yes,
they go, we interviewed your wife. Like okay, she says,
this is your second child. I said yes. They're like,

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and you have your in laws with us too. I'm like, yes, okay,
you have a lot on your plate. Maybe you should
try for the mentorship program next year. Right now, we
want you to mentor your family and be there. Is
you already a board member, You're already spending your time there,
your doing things for them. Wow, So let's not have
you take on an additional thing, which would not be

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helpful because if you have to give that up, that
actually hurts the child, right because when you're a mentor,
you want to be a mentor for them for a
long time.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
And you have a new one. That's a beautiful thought
out there.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
So they did that. I am now the vice president
of Big Brothers and Big Sisters in June. I hope
to be voted for the president of Big Brothers and
Big Sisters of ninety percent there unless somebody wants to
vote against me. But everybody's my friend, and the reason
I joined them to be honest with you was half
the board members were my friends. So I have successful
friends that are part of the board enjoy giving back

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to the community we grew up and I get to
be part of that.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
So that's why I joined. The sad part is we
all now.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Are doing better. The organization is doing better. We've hit
platinum standards across all boards. We're thinking about expansion, we're
thinking about a lot of things, and we've done more
for the children in the community than ever. Plus, it's
one of the local places that works with other nonprofits.
Supports it Live Boys and Girls Club, like Kids Stream,

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and they work together to really give back to the
community because at the end of the day, every person
there on board is a volunteer.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Zee. What does the community say when they look at
your profession and go, wow, he's in the cannabis industry.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
At the beginning, it was much tougher. Now it's easy.
Now they don't care. It's just everybody that knows me
doesn't care.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
I mean, you're out in an area where the Budweiser
Village is right down the way. Guys, it's you know,
it's not that far. Yeah, I mean, we all have
people that work in other industries as well, the porn industry,
the entertainment industry that is all around here as well.

Speaker 5 (49:38):
Agreed.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
And the thing is, it's again, it's what you were
taught up, what you were brought But let's be honest.
Like I asked my mom, why don't you like marijuana?
And she goes, agains, it's illegal. I said so from
the beginning if it was legal, would we be having
this conversation. She goes, that's a good question.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
I don't know. So it was what she was taught.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
I love exactly. I love the because it's illegal. Okay,
do you ever drive over the speed limit?

Speaker 5 (50:02):
My mom doesn't drive, but yes, I get it.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
I love playing, but we love playing the game too.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
With people, which I always play doubles. I might agree
with you, and I'll still question your agreement because I
want to make sure we're on the same point, not
just on the same page.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
And I really love the people that can go back
and forth with it even when I don't agree, even
when I'm listening at the person like it's on and
you really see it that way.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
Okay, Well, there's always a rule, like I may not
like you or your beliefs, but I might like to
buy you a drink because you're a good dad, and
you're a good father and you take care of and
I respect you for that. Find something you respect in
the other person and focused.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
On that exactly. I agree in life too, right like,
because because there's gonna be enough common things, whether it's
smoking a bowl together, whether it's going to the good
old willhouse and picking yourself up a bag.

Speaker 5 (50:47):
Or are they going four by four with your boys,
whatever it.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Is, you know what, And I love this right now
because learning about you and not hearing so much about
what product is in your store, I want people to
understand what this gentleman is because, like I said, hearing
stories from Blue and the way you've talked about you
has just put you at a level that is everything
I've heard right now in front of me and more

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because it's just been, you know, a real blessing to
not only see what you're doing with the boys and girls,
big brothers, big sisters, but what you're doing with consulting
and helping communities and helping people and educating people like
you did with that gentleman at the church. And if
you can bring them on, I'd love to talk with

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them because I'll just give them the platform. I'm like, well,
what do you say to this, what do you say
to that? I just want the answers to your thoughts
and theories.

Speaker 5 (51:40):
We want to know what the extreme side says, so
we know what the other side says.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
I want to hear, and I want this platform for
you to preach.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
Yeah, because I'm not I'm not for somebody just okay,
let's put it very simply.

Speaker 5 (51:53):
No, I'm not in the.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Business to provide cannabis for somebody to sit at home
all day and not make anything of their life, like
a stereotype. But I am in the business of providing
cannabis for five people like us to sit down and
communicate like we do today and be able to consume
and still have an adult conversation. I have friends that
are lawyers, doctors. I have a great story. One of

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my consultants told me he's a Harvard graduate and he
his little answer was, I'm only got to Harvard because
I started smoking weed. He was like, I was just
average person doing average and certain category. And then he
started smoking cannabis and he became really focused and really
good at when he became and he had graduating Harvard
with a law degree. Yeah, cannabis makes.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
I swear to God, I believe that wholeheartedly.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
Actually, you've had him on your show, sir.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Who is it.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
His name is Hush first Jane. He's a consultant and
he's a consultant for little short Indian guy told he
was in person. I don't know, but he knew. I
know he spoke to him.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
I know his name he was.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
I said, I was coming here today because, as I said,
I called one of my I believe.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
So I think I know who he is, Berkeley guy.
Then he went there, I think, and he said, Indian dude.
It's coming to mind. We had him on the show, right, Yeah,
I remember him definitely.

Speaker 5 (53:23):
So when I as I said, when I when this
law passed, or I think.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
A smart guys like him too. It's funny. I know
exactly who you're talking about now. And he's a fucking
brainiact and it's such a great dude to stoner is like,
you know, I know a lot of super smart as hell.
I agree.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
I always make fun of him.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
I have to pick on him because at the end
of the day, he's Indian, so I gotta you know,
we always pick on and so I'm like, you're the
smartest guy in the room.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
I'm the best looking, and he's like, no, you're.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
You're the best look at Indian.

Speaker 5 (53:56):
But he'll say no, he's a he's a great guy.
So I love Hi. And you know what, if we
think we're good looking, the women think we're good.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
You are good looking, Willhouse Cannabis dispensaries. You guys go
out there and support it. You just hear the man
z where he comes from, what he's about, what he's
doing over there, the communities that he's supporting, and everything
in my book is just phenomenal. I just want to
think our whole staff before we get to the high
five that make everything happen, from Adrian who's just sleeping
over there, to Amy Tamando, to Mary Mikayla, Jenna Juice,

(54:26):
Queen Dre, Daniel Diego, Lay, Stacey Logan, Gary Carly, Kayla Connor,
Ice Dog, Zeus, Teddy the show Dog, Goldie Brother, Pitt,
Mark Carnes, Beach Barcelaar, Ali Muffins, Og, Skinny Ruby, Chris Frank,
you know, Jennifer, Eric and Elvis. Thank you guys all
for doing what you do right now. I'm excited Zee

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because hearing your stories have been great and thinking that
you probably started smoking cannabis at a later age.

Speaker 5 (54:53):
I did.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Question number one is how old are you the first
time you use cannabis and where did you get it? From?

Speaker 4 (54:59):
Twenty three years old, I just became branch manager vice
president of a bank. I had a career, and I
went to with my best friend at the time, getting
a little intoxicated and my girl I was dating and
he was dating. We all went and had celebration at
his apartment. After I got a little bit intoxicated, I said, Hey,

(55:22):
since I have a career now I'm still young, tell
me what this cannabis is all about. He's like, you
want to smoke? Man, like, yeah, I'll try it tonight.
I'll try it for the first time. He called his buddy.

Speaker 5 (55:36):
Come.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
This little guy comes to the door with a joint.
Not even the bag, nothing, just a joint. He's just
a friend.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
When you live in an apartment complex, or what do
you mean call it just a friend?

Speaker 5 (55:45):
He said, Hey, buddy, I have my boy here. He
wants to smoke some weed. Can you bring some over?
An think?

Speaker 4 (55:49):
So the guy brings over a joint now, remember I've
already drank alcohol and this is the first time I'm
consuming cannabis.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
So what do you think happened. Let's see if you
can guess.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Joe, you shit your pants.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
No, not that bad.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
I passed out and went to sleep. So I took
one hit and fell asleep. I didn't even feel the effects,
didn't feel anything. I just passed out.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
Really, But my first experience of cannabis and first real experience,
was with a very close friend of mine and his
name is Brandon.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
He said, you're stupid for smoking that way. He goes,
come here on a Saturday, come to my condo. I'll
have a bowl for you, and you're only going to
take one hit, and he had a bong. I couldn't
even finish the bawl. Took one hit.

Speaker 5 (56:29):
I laughed, I cried, I watched TV, I joked. I
ate a lot. I remember everything I ate. I can
tell you exactly what I ate and how much I ate,
and it was all yummy.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
It all tasted better, and then I passed out. So
I had a great experience, but that didn't start me smoking.
It just let me know it wasn't harmful, and I
did enjoy it. I didn't start smoking cannabis until I
was thirty and when I was finally in a place
where I just consumed on Friday night called Friday night
chill night, because at the end of a Friday, instead
of drinking, I'd come home and consumer bowl and order

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takeout and just relax until the next day and have
my regular Saturday and Sunday. And I was only smoking
on fright, I haven't I started smoking more when I
finally got into the cannabis space. Until then, I was
only smoking maybe a little bit here and there. That's
why it would people would give me free weed because
I didn't smoke that much.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
So that was it?

Speaker 3 (57:24):
When did it? Where is it at? That was such
a fucking good story, dog, I have to ask where
is it at now?

Speaker 4 (57:28):
Like, well, I smoked weed all the time. It's right here, guys,
so you can't see it on the TV.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
What a beautiful story though. You just took me down
like I was, just like I could feel it see
it up how you started and it was fun and
not only fun for you. But it sounds like would
you say that because of the way you were are
meaning banker, very meticulous, therefore you're not gonna because all

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your voys are smuggling weed. You just want to smuggle block.
That's not Z style. No Z looked at this like,
why are they doing it? Is there some medical benefit
for me here?

Speaker 5 (58:12):
Well?

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Can I see that far? Can I? Are?

Speaker 5 (58:15):
You laugh?

Speaker 4 (58:16):
You can laugh the first time? No, it was just
me being a kid, just trying to learn what it
was all about. Tell me what it does, what it does,
why you like it?

Speaker 5 (58:22):
Right?

Speaker 4 (58:22):
What's the effect? I started smoking at thirty regularly because,
as I said, it let me chill out. I didn't
have to consume alcohol. I found it seen a medical benefit,
and literally one of my old attorneys said, people say, well,
you're you're stoned and you're stuck on the couch. You're
a drug addict. No, I'm actually relaxing now, and I'm

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actually soothing myself.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
I'm meditating, and I'm so happy to be relaxed.

Speaker 5 (58:50):
Right now, and I'm not.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
This is a separate lawyer, and I can't name how
many lawyer friends I have that smoke weed. They didn't
make lawyers that aren't getting paid and aren't doing well
because they stupid and can't read the law and understand
whether judge or speak in front of a judge or
in front of anything, or run a case or lawsuit,
or make anybody money if they stone and stupid.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
I agree. I got Mark m craig, the Pop Brothers
at law. Those guys are they.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
Worked on one of my godson's mom's case. Yes, And
She's like, put a package together for so. I actually said,
Pop Brothers a goodie bag from her, and it was
all the wheelhouse gear, including the wheelhouse hat and everything else.
If somebody wants to wear my gear, I never said no,
Well your your team said bring gear, and I said,

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hell yeah, bring gear.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Well, you know, just because of the history of Blue too.
I've just love that Connor has it on and I've
seen Blue have it on, and I'm like, because of
your deep, rich history, I'm like, we're all going to rock.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
But I love that because whose house. As I said,
I'm going to quote this line, we're all in your
wheel house. Everything we have is in your wheelhouse.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
I could already hear the commercial wheelhouse. That's right, wheelhouse
go down there wire right around whilsteron Boulevard. Whatever I mean.
I just I.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
Would have remember when we were growing up, that guy
who was the fastest talker would do the Oh my.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
God, well, I mean I used I still do commercials.

Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
I mean, but that's the best. But he was the fastest.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Question number twosy, what's your favorite way now to use cannabis?

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
I learned that just last week officially. So I've tried
to love these moments. Yeah, I literally.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
So I went on vacation with my wife and the family.
I took my dab rig with me. I have an
icepied dab rig. I love icepier.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Thanks Jeff, Love inspired love Jeff.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
Jeff is great. So he gave me the icepire and
I took it with me. Because you don't want to
take flour on the boat or anything else of the smell.
You just want to be respectful.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
So I did the vapors and I did it and
I loved it, and I really do enjoy it because
I owned the stuff and I smoke it. But then
when I got back, I took one hit of my
flower and nothing needed to be said more after that
because I was relaxed.

Speaker 5 (01:01:10):
I enjoyed it. It was the flavors, the taste.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
Everything that I like. And I still dab but it's
not now. I'm not doubting as much. I'm really just
going back to my original root, which is my flower.
I don't even like joints. I don't like a few stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
I really just like.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
One tiny bowl, one tiny bowl, fresh green one. I
prefer it out of a bong, out of the water.
Just a normal, old school straight.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Just a snapper Connor style, history Connor style over there,
snapping bowls with a little tobacco whacky.

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
No no, no, no, tobacco whacky. He does I pollute
my fucking don't do it? Do it, don't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
I hate I look at it, whether it's green or yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
That's like me and that guy that says cannabis is
the devil, tobacco is the devil.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Actually that's so, and I'm aware of it. Put the
camera on your car. That's the devil's wheelhouse.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
Support wheelhouse though non cannabis, I mean, non.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
On tobacco wheelhouse. Check it out that sick gear. I'm
already comfy because it's funny. It is cozy, comfy. It's
a stupid fucking comfy, cozy feel. It's funny. You say
that because I'm like, what is this about this shirt
that I like right now? It's comfy, cozy feel, and.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
You know what, who looks I'm gonna be not to
insult anybody, including myself. The blue pulls it off the bath.
He looks really good at it. When he put it on, he.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Look really good.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
His body is looking good right now.

Speaker 5 (01:02:33):
He's working out. He's healthy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Yeah, you can tell his hard attacking steroids are really
kicking in hard for him.

Speaker 5 (01:02:37):
It's good.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
I'm just his heart attack helped him lose weight. His
steroids putting some muscle on him. So that's a perfect humbo.

Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
It's it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
I mean, I'm not mad at him. Question number three
of the high five seehouse. I'm kidding you, guys. You
didn't have that happen. Some of it did. He's not
on the steroids.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
Craziest place you ever used are smoked cannabis easy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
I got kick down from it. Disneyland. I just told
that to Chris today.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
First time ever elaborate, give me the whole fuck.

Speaker 5 (01:03:07):
I wish there was some elaboration.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
It's literally ooh no, so literally.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
I went to Disneyland, parked in the parking lot. Everybody left,
everybody left the car. I went and took a quick
hit before I could even finish the hit and come
back up. There was two security guards right next to
me and said, you must leave the premises in the
parking lot.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
In the parking lot, you didn't even get out of
the park.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
You didn't get out of the car. I didn't get
out anywhere. I didn't leave the premises. I barely parked,
got rid of the A couple of years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Wow, your kids and wife.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
No, it was the kids and wife and stuff, but
they were gone. As I said, I didn't because they
don't know. I'd never consume in front of them. Wasn't
about to do it, and as that I was very respectful.
I'm not going to take it in the park. I
wasn't going to do anything of that sort. But I
did consume in the parking lot. In the parking lot
to call your wife and say let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
I simply said, you have two choices. You can stay
and enjoy your day, or they're gonna give us all
passes for the next day. They only kick you off
for twenty four hours unless you really are a jerk
and a rude and aren't doing this and you have
more than one offense. But yeah, basically they just said
come back tomorrow. So we came back the next day.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
Oh that's an easy story. It was.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
But that's the craziest because to me, everybody else has
been very accepting. I mean, if you want to say,
where's the craziest, well, I was sitting in a club
smoking weed with some celebrities. That's Those are just not
stories that are very crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
For me.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
The crazy one I got I was stuck without my
kids and family that won't have to make a decision.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
And embarrassed my crazy story.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
To me, that was embarrassed. I was to be honesty.
To me, it was crazy because I was embarrassed that
I had to tell my family.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
And now you're forever gonna have to tell your kids
what we got kicked out. Fuck, they remember, they're gonna
watch this. They're gonna be twenty one years old watching this. Boy, Dad,
you fucking liar.

Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
No, I'll tell you the truth. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
You never told us the truth like that.

Speaker 5 (01:04:59):
No, I know, if they ask, I tell the truth. Unfortunately,
I'm as my wife. Yeah, my wife goes, I think
you're a little too honest. I said, yeah, But unfortunately
I got to treat them with respect too. Makes sense,
and being honest is respectful, so I want them to
be respectful.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
You don't ask if I would just say, you don't
want to know that answer.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
When you grow up my real answers that I don't
want to give up, Like when you become a parent,
we'll have that conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
That's a nice one.

Speaker 5 (01:05:24):
And don't be a parent until you are old enough.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Oh please don't do that. Question Number four the high five?
What is your go to munchies after you get HIGHI.

Speaker 5 (01:05:34):
I'm a chip chips aholic, so I love chips, all
different variations. There's not one in particular that I go to,
but whatever I'm creating at the time, I'm a chip guy.
Crunch aholy o, everything's better with the chip chip.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
I just bought a variety bag from Costcow that has
the funions and then is my bag that I've opened up.
I haven't opened up a funions bag, but I opened
up the bag of the chili.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
Reminds me of reminds me of childhood. I just I
just need a little bag of that everyone, and it
gives you the childhood memory, gives me a.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Fix, like if I'm a junkie exactly, and it's like
like and I felt like I was eating them in
the corner like a little fat kids.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
My junkie is the funions. So I'm a fund and
so if I open my daughter now loves she hates onions,
but she loves funions, which is the irony of everything.
If I buy a bag of funions, and you if
I smoked weed and I'm watching a movie, the whole
bag is gone. So my wife and I love consuming together, uh,
and we go to movie night. So we we'll like

(01:06:35):
consume and we'll go watch a movie. It's walking distance
from our house. We'll walk there, so we will literally
go smoke. We'll walk to the theater, we'll enjoy the movie,
and then we'll walk back. And if it's a long movie,
like a three hour movie like Avatar, we're throwing an
edible in the middle so that by the time that's
right there. That is amazing and Avatar three D.

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
Yeah on.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Our shouldn't number five of the high five was z
great to catch up and know you like this dude
here a great guy. But if you could smoke cannabis
with anyone dead or alive, who would it be? And why,
my dad, why you never did or never head.

Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
He passed away?

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
How long ago?

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
Twenty twelve? Okay, yeah, it's been a while, So why
not if I could bring somebody back.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Did you never smoke with around? No?

Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
No, he knew, he knew.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
Oh, he knew that I consumed here and there and yeah,
my dad and I had a very honest relationship.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
But he used to come from you, I don't like it, eron, No.

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
No, he comes from the era of yeah, I don't
like it and yeah, more importantly, no, just do smart things,
don't do stupid things. And he was such an honest guy.
I'm like, why me, And he's like, because you remind
me of me, So guess what you have to be me?
Oh great, thanks dad, Thanks for expectations.

Speaker 5 (01:07:51):
Life Indians is what it is. But you can use
great guy.

Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
And if I could bring anybody back, whether it's cannabis,
anybody who said any question regarding bringing back somebody dead
or alive, it'd be my dad because I miss him
and I love him and it'd be nice to have.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
And he's the one that's going to give you the
whether he smokes.

Speaker 5 (01:08:05):
It or not. If he smokes it or not, he's around, right,
I get to see him one more time. Say what's up, Dad?

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
I love it? Yeah, I think it'd be awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:08:11):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Menzie, is there anything else you want to break out
before we let you get on out of her brother's
great time.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
Please support all cannabis businesses. Please support Wheelhouse. Come check
us out come, check out our excellent level of service.
Everybody sells the products, everybody brands, we support them all.
We want to make sure they all survive too, because
the more they survive, they help us survive. And same
with the cannabis industry. Support the industry, don't support the
black market, and keep using and keep talking to all

(01:08:39):
your political parties to get rid of these damn taxes
so cannabis can be more affordable and that way all
the businesses can survive. We appreciate cannabis one on one
for thank you for being letting us come here.

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
Chris. I know I made a joke.

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
I said, Chris, how many people try to get on
the show. I ran into Chris and Hall of Flowers
and he's like, you're the dispension for Hall of Flowers.
I'm like, yeah, we were chosen this year. What a
great successful event.

Speaker 5 (01:09:03):
Thank you, Danny, and the team and Rama and Chris, well,
yeah they included me and I appreciate that and now
we'll become friends and the same thing. So much respect.
And I'm like, you saw me there. I'm like, why
haven't you got me on the show? He goes when
you want to.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
Come on and literally sent me a text message that
same moment, and a week later, I'm here on the show.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Not only that, dude, when your name came up on
our company meeting, I literally went and I said, I
haven't text brother, It's gonna be a great show. And
I couldn't wait. And you know, it's O's ober An
hour now because I knew this is I wanted to
hear for you.

Speaker 5 (01:09:36):
No, this is great. I love this actor that you know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
This is just friends talking exactly and hearing the story
because it's like we're all connected somehow, especially with this
whole the way we are so zee, it's pleasure. Gonf you,
thank you, thank you so much. Go check them out, folks.
It's World Health. It's Cannabis Talk one on one. We're
blue with Joe Grande. If nobody else loves you, we.

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