August 25, 2021 • 33 mins
If you have one relationship with the same sex, does that mean you're gay? Jess invites Prince back to talk about the double standards of sexuality.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Carefully Reckless, the production of Our Heart Radio
and the Black Effect, And just like that, we're back
(00:20):
on the air. Welcome back to another episode of Carefully Reckless.
I got my twin back. Say hey, prints, what's what's
up now? Listen? We played a lot and we we
we had a lot of random ship that we talked about.
I'm gonna be honest, we just ain't know what the
fun to talk about last week. And um, yeah, you
know y'all been with me up until this point, so
sometimes y'all can take a little fumble episode ain't nothing,
(00:41):
but we are very serious this week. I want to
touch on something that I feel like I can't touch
you on a loan. You know what I'm saying. I
can't touch on it by myself, you know what I mean,
because I am not in the community. And then I
have been canceled by the community. And listen, I know
what y'all thinking. She keep on talking about gays. That's
why one like I nailed, but like, no, I'm gonna
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really get into something that I really have a problem with,
you know what I mean, Not against y'all. I stand
with y'all on this, so um and I want to
bring my brother in because he is gay. It just
seems crazy to say like that because he is gay.
Let me just say it better because he's gay. Okay,
(01:22):
he's gay, So yeah, gay gay, Like we are serious, serious, Okay.
So this was a part of a conversation that we
were having. Prince and I it's harder for gay males
than it is for gay women, and I do sincerely
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agree with that. I always, I mean, I've always felt
that way anyway, that it's it's easier for a woman
to be accepted, you know, when she's gay versus a man.
You know, that comes from that hits from different aspects.
It could be your family can be you know, friends,
it can be you know, church, family can be your
platform if you have one, you know, if you don't,
it can be your neighborhood. Whoever, how would you translate it,
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how would what would you add to a prince? I mean,
I stand with you. You You know how you said it.
Women can in fact choose when where the men can't.
You know. It's like once you cross that line of
that boundary, you're just gay. That's it. There is no
no I was just doing this ship for fun. I
was just doing this because I was mad at my bitch, Like,
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what the nigga suck your dick because you was mad
at your Like this is something you've been you thought about,
This has been something that's in your mind, Like I
just need one more little thing that's gonna send me
over the ass. It's gonna make me go see what
this nigga throat about? Like hold up what you know
what that? Yeah, that's as crazy as a motherfucker because
and I get it because a woman can do that
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like a woman back. I'm gonna let this eat my pussy. Oh,
it's okay. And men was gonna like to see that.
Ain't no woman excited to see two men? Yeah? Or
or there are some, but I know it's it's very rare.
The ratio is different. More men that enjoy watching two
women than they would be women watching two men men.
Yeah for sure, because listen, I can't even put myself
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in it, like you know, I know I don't want
to see two men. Wait, this is going left with
serious guys. Know at a at a young age and
and I've touched on this um during the Catholic Reckless
episode before I messed with a female. You know, what
I mean when I was like twenty one, you know,
just right after I had ash and I just had
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enough of his dad and I had enough of niggers,
and I was like, you know, I fuck it. I'
musta see what's something. I was always attracted to this girl.
She looked just like young low Wayne. So I was
like ship, but I've only ever been attracted to that
one woman in my whole life. And I tried it
and we had sex and ship, and then after that,
I felt like I didn't know what I was doing.
I was kind of weird. I didn't know what to do.
I felt like we was going to be like thrusting
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our like navels together. It was just like it was
the sciss SCISSI know what I'm saying. I was like, alright,
bamn pow power, you know what I mean. And I
just realized that I just couldn't do it. Then I
was scared of the deal though. I was so scared
of it because it was like I hate PEPs mans.
I hate anything going up there, and that's why I
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don't like for Nikola finger me like, let me play
with your pussy, what's your tongue? Like I I don't
want you to be up there with your two fingers.
Just imagine your two fingers just going up there. She's like,
did you find it? What? Then you're looking for joyable?
You know what I'm saying. It feels like I'm at
the doctors, you know. So I never I didn't. The
only thing that I will allow inside of me, you know,
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is a penis. That's just what it is. But I
was still so fucking tracted to her, and you know,
to this day, like I said, it's never been anybody else.
So that made me question, like damn, maybe I wasn't gay.
Maybe it wasn't Maybe that was just a phase, or
maybe I was just so curious where I thought that,
you know, because you never really know. Yeah's And then
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that goes into like the different acronyms, like based on
what you described, it would be like an a sexual
y'all ain't having sex, but you attracted to their personality,
you know, So I think that fault that will fall
under that that acronym of a sexual whatever you want
to say, whether it's a man or a woman. Yeah, okay,
it's like you're not having you're not having sex, you
just attracted tonalities however that go or whatever one of
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the acronyms. You know that people have to make them
feel comfortable with who they are. And then back to
what we were saying to complete the thought. Look, after
I had sex for her, I went to sleep, woke up,
and then I was straight. I really, you know what
I'm saying. It was just like, no, that's that's sex,
and her want to sleep, woke up, Nope, back to that, yeah,
and then I never wanted it after that, So in
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my mind and to me, I'm not gay, you know
what I mean? And and when do I say I
was gay? Or did I try it? You know what
I'm saying, If you try it once, does that make
you gay forever? As a male? Yes, see, that's what
I'm saying. For a woman, it's like, you can't explain
a story like that as I'm man to a woman.
And they'd be like, you know, I was growing up, man,
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and my big mother got him a fucking nerves and man,
my homeboy down the street looked like fucking Drake, you know,
And I was like, you know, young Drake, you know,
said Drake, like you know, and and you know what
I mean, We just we just sucked each other dick.
But I went to sleep and woke up and was
like this, ain't it eating pussy? Like you know, yeah, nah,
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that's not like Nigga's gonna look at him and straight
up be like, that's it. Where's the woman gonna be like,
all right, bitch, let's go. Let's party, like bitch, what not,
Let's party and everything okay, and then walk up to
you and tell nigger story. He gonna be like, oh,
I don't hear what you're saying, but I mean you
wouldn't try it again. What if it wasn't nigger in
the mix and it was too yell like he's gonna
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try to finesse some ship because nigga's like to see
two bitches together, the average nigga. There is some niggas
because I have a homeboy who doesn't like that woman
and woman action and right defensive when his wife like, well,
dance with a girl in the club, you don't pay
and there are I mean that that's not every man
does not think that sexy. Yeah he don't. You know,
he don't play that ship. He don't like that ship,
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and he stands on that. Yes, I know that ship
is not just to act like he stands and he
don't like that ship. So but the average man is
going to enjoy ship like that. Yeah, yeah, that's just
what it is, you know. But nah as a man, no, Yeah,
let me ask you this. Even outside of you know,
like being accepted by people, how else do you feel
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like it affects like your everyday living, like like when
you go out into the world, like even in an industry,
or if you like or if you try to get
a job. Do you feel like it affects gay mails
their their sexuality when trying to do anything in life,
you know what I mean as versus a woman. Absolutely absolutely,
And and see this is this is ah, it's it's
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a double standard when it comes to rich gay mail
and regular gay mail. There's a double standard. Rich Gamel
can do whatever you want, he can say whatever you want,
he can act as is he want, He can do
whatever he want and doesn't have to give a funk
about people because he's in a position to be okay,
you know, um, there's there's there's going to be a
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fan base that surrounds him because he's being thinking outside
of the box. He's doing things above and beyond. He's
representing for the community per sect, whereas though someone from
your average neighborhood has to be mindful you know, they
have to only act based upon what's appropriate to the
limit of their neighborhood or with their neighborhood. Wow, because
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they grew up there. You know, the ship that little
Nosx is doing, there's no way that average male can
do that in his neighborhood. You just can't. You know,
you can't. You ain't walking around as Snaked or making
no even if you are like a local gay rapper,
you ain't making no. You ain't making no no no
as Snaked music video and the numbers going off the
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off the chain, you know what I mean, Like, that's
not that's not gonna happen. Like so it's only you
feel like yeah, if it's only if you rich with
a platform or if you just have a platform. What
I'm saying, because like a lot of people look up
to Lord's accent, saucy Santana and you know, her Bobby lights,
and you know they look up to them because that's
who A lot of people wish that they can be
just like that. But you know how many you know
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how many you know how many Kay Niggers in the
hood want to do the ship that Santana do. Like
they want to go to the to the street clubs
and tork. But they're better to fuck note, you know,
like get their bodies done. They want to get bbls.
They better to fun not like you. You just can't.
You know, they want to wear long hair with full beards.
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They're better to funck not like if you think he
better to funk not. I keep telling them that ain't
cute k and told him any time. But I love
me some Santanta, but go in. Yeah, you know you can't.
You can't. You can't do that in the hood. They
can do that. They have platforms, are larger, they have
people behind them that's bigger than them, that's supporting and
pushing them. You know, it's like it's different ship. It's different.
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It's it's a double standard, Like you can't do that
ship in your hood. You know, It's like you just can't.
Like little nas X, I think some of the ship
that he's doing is because of his platform. If Old
Town Road didn't blow up the way that it blew up,
I don't think that he never would have came out.
I don't think he would have never really not even
get into where he is. I don't think that he
would have never came out and said, hey, y'all, I
am identifying as gay or however he worried because I
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don't want to. You know, that's not verbat him. But
in a sense he basically said hey, y'all, and it
was he's extremely comfortable. Yeah, And it was like and
it was like, damn, this song is rocking, like you
got the whole everybody, everybody, everybody's singing Old Town Role,
like I mean everybody, everybody, everybody. And then it was like,
you know, the numbers, what it was. He made some money,
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he did what he did, and I was like, boom,
this is who I am, this is what i'm, this
is what I represent. Do you think these then stopped
listening to Old Town Road because now this man is gay, absolutely,
you know. But then it's then there's some people that
be like, man, I listening to that because he is
get this in the third but it's more because he
has a platform and he has the money and because
you know, everybody wants you know, whatever whatever that whatever
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the reason it is, it was acceptable because of where
he was. He couldn't have done that on a regular scale,
Like you can't just nah, that's that's that's not even
performance wise, Like it's like speaking on his BBC performance
where he kissed the guy tuned them down. It's niggers
that's been getting the neighborhood for years, and the neighborhood
knows and they dare not kissing nigga in the neighborhood,
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like kissing nigga in public period, Like you just you're
just not doing that. You're just not doing that. But
he can do it, Like who won't check them? Think
about like honestly, who won't check them? Has it ever
affected you in a sense where you felt like you
couldn't do something where you got a harder time because
of because I know I've been there since you came out,
you know what I mean, And I've seen and even
things that I don't see. I haven't seen much change
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for you, but you never I didn't know that when
I met you, you know what I mean, that you
were gay, Like I I just I just didn't. I'm like, oh,
that's a very fashion forward nigga. He find you know
what I mean, Like he can dance, He never across
my mind that you were gay until you told me.
You know what I'm saying, I'm like, oh ship, cool
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o ship. I'm like, okay, what changed once you came out?
A lot? You know, a lot, a lot of things changed,
but a lot of things because I'm an image person,
I shielded in a mask, masked it away from you know,
the world. Like I lost a bunch of clients behind it.
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You know, he is a barber. Yeah, you know I
lost a bunch of clients. Man. You know I got
a bunch of hate emails. You know, like you never
told me that you lost I know you did get
a bunch of hate messages and ship, but I never
knew you lost clients. I lost a lot of clients. Um.
But it wasn't nothing that you know, it didn't. It
just was like for me, it was more of like
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a freedom of a mind thing like yeah, it's whatever
now you know, like it's gonna be, It's gonna be.
How what how much worse can get? You know, It's
like okay, now, who's no more speculation? I said it
like you know what I mean, Like I don't have
a bun like definitely was like the wrong sound effects
that that's giving, Penis, that's giving. Dick. Come on, I
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told you you're gay, and this is my brother and
we play like this day. But you know, I lost
a lot, you know, um and still lose a lot,
you know. And I think that a lot of things
that that I put together, even in my mainly in
my city, you know, a lot of things that I
may try to put together the orchestra. I think that
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people don't actually funk with me because of the fact,
because you know, and it's just like damn like if
I never said nothing, niggas wouldn't have known. But I
never felt like I had to tell anybody because if
I'm not interested in it, don't matter. You're my homeboy.
You can be my home boy, I can be I
can be gay with straight homeboys. And listen, that's another
thing about you. I noticed, and knowing you for years,
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you don't hang with gay people. Gay man. You know
what I'm saying. You don't and why And they're gonna
hate me for for saying this, but I mean it
is what it is. You know. I don't like the
stigma or the perception of groups that gay people hanging together,
you know. And and let me explain generally when you
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hear gay, you know, faggy or whatever. You know what
I mean, we're generally associated with them thieves, they still
they do fraud, they do this, they do that. Like
it's never oh he has a business, or oh he
has he does real estate, or he's he's a doctor.
Is always the negative about groups of gay people that
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hang together, you know, And I don't know he's selling
ass or he's selling dick. He don't like na, no, no,
no no. So I don't want to be a part
of that. Like I'm a community supporter, but I'm not
a community member. The things that go on in the community,
I don't. I don't partake in those things. Got a
real life, no real real ship going on. And I
don't have time for those general characteristics of that group
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of people associated with me because I don't move like that,
you know. And there's nothing against how you get your money,
get your money, how to fun you get your money.
I don't want you to be like, oh, he's stereotyping us,
blah blah blah, what he think he up and he
gave nigga No no, no, no, no, I got calm
and sense. That's just what it is. You know, like
you know, get your money though, however you get it.
What works for you works for you. Hold up, hold up,
I know the ship getting good, but listen to just
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a couple of seconds of a commercial. If you love me,
you'll listen. Now, do you know any successful gays? Absolutely,
Lewis Baton, Oh ship. Yeah, all of these designers that
we wear when the niggas in the hood got problem
with gay niggas, but they're wearing around the ass but
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they're not ready for conversations and luxury brand. Yeah, you
spend your last on to keep up. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely,
you know you got you know, it's just and I'd
be like, damn, you don't like gay niggs, but you
win all those designer ship. These niggers were for sure
gay and and and was out about it like yes,
I'm out here sucking dick. That's just what it is.
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And you're gonna wear my ship. You're gonna pay top
dollar for it. But you won't even endorse a nigga. Hey,
but you won't even endorse a nigga in your neighborhood
who maybe don't even like you. But you just got
a problem because you're worried about what your other straight
homeboys gonna saying you don't gonna be friends with him
because he gay. Why do you feel like straight men
have such a problem or such such a negative guard
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up when you know it comes to even being around
gays or being friends, not not not being around but
being friends, actually having gay homeboys. If you're straight, it's
like a rule you can't have a gay homeboy or
something like that being together. Why do you feel it's simple? Twin, Like,
it's real simple. The problem is that gay people have
their own narrative on the friendship between them and the
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heterosexual and in a gay person's mind that if you know,
the average gay person, if a straight guy is treating
them like the homie or just you know, like like
being nice to him, or you know, looking past the
fact that you know what I mean, that they're gay
or whatever, they automatically assume that now the heterosexual male
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is flirting with them, you know, and now it's like
they're doing the most you know what I mean. Like
one of the saying keep just doing is doing that
the whole time. The straight nigger is just comfortable with
enough with his sexuality to be able to be friends
with your communicate with you, but you suck it up
by making it seem like something is what in fact isn't.
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And now you're trying to explain to the hood that
you ain't sucking this nigga, but he giving off the
signs like a bit that she really is sucking them.
And it's one thing that is hard for a straight
nigger to get off of his off of his name,
is that he's gay. Once a gay person say that's
like they act like all the ship that gay people
do or people in general. Dude, they act like straight
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gay people tell the truth when it comes straight people. Yo,
you had like it's people that died that has died
behind that ship, like all that type of ship, right,
like people people get killed, like putting that type of
m or But a lot of the times this should
be true, and and it do be true, you know
what I'm saying, Not all the time. It's also a
variation that that's not you know, the people are honestly
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everybody that I hang around straight up and down straight
and they don't have a problem with being around. But
you're not absolutely not. Man. It's like I move, I
move carefully and respectably upon the people that I'm around,
you know what I mean. Like it's just like it's
not that I'm hiding who I am. It's just certain
things aren't permissible in certain atmospheres, Certain people can't go
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certain places. I'm not going to invite my straight friends
to a gay event, which I really don't go to.
But you know, I'm not gonna write my straight friends
to a gay event. I'm not gonna write my gate
friends to a straight event. I don't have no gay event,
no friends. I don't have it. But I'm saying if
I did, I wouldn't do that because that's just like,
you know, you gotta learn how to entertain people appropriately.
It's like you have friends, you know, just all subject
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because you have friends that when you hang with them friends,
you don't hang with other friends because you know, they
just don't mix. You don't put oil and water together
and then get an attitude because it's not working the
way you wanted to work, you know, And that's just
how that's just how my mind set. But even the
heterosexual or homosexuality whatever, I don't believe in public affection.
I don't. It doesn't matter, you know, when I you know,
I was dealing with females. You know, it's like, I
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don't got to do all this outside. We we spend
time together behind closed doors. I just think that it's unacceptable,
you know. I don't. I'm not I'm not going to
do the most, you know, that's just I'm just not
to nobody, absolutely not. What if you're doing something out
in public and it's a kid around watching You don't
even know this kid is watching you and his parents
have to explain to him the birds and the bees
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or the bees and the bees and the birds and
the birds, or whatever the case may be. And they're
not even old enough to have this conversation yet, Like,
you just gotta be and what's around you at all times.
And do you think that is why they are trying
to interject gay and everything in the world, okay, one
time for the people in the back. I think that
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is the stupidest ship in the world. You are teaching
these kids, And I don't want to say that it's
okay to be gay because so many people have that's
like a politic that's like a politics. It's very political,
you know, it's like, oh, it is okay to beginning, Okay,
Like I don't want to get into all that, but
you're I think you're forcing the kids to learn something
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that wasn't taught to us instead of just leaving them
opening to finding out you know later. What about this
with somebody in the barbershop, It was like, you know,
I felt She was like, I feel like the TV
and and this generation is forcing the kids to be,
you know, interested in this because if they don't know
about it, what's gonna make them curious about it? And
I get it, you know, I get it. But my
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rebuttal to her was, you know, well, also, I feel
like it's not even just TV. I feel like it's
social media. She like, what you mean? I'm like, what
does your kid have fortnight? And all of that sudden
she like, yeah, I'm like, you're not listening to what
these people saying, or you're not listening. You don't know
it's no age burriger on, what the funk? You know?
It online and that's some dangerous ship. Yeah, just be
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so much ship going on. And nowadays these kids have
because of social media and other things related to it,
these kids have an option to have a personality. We
had no fucking personality as kids. So you've got a personality.
Now you become curious. You know, we didn't do it
because our parents told us not to do that. Don't
funk with the same sex because that's wrong. Yeah, yeah,
that's it. Now. If it was done, it was sneakily done,
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you know what I mean. It wasn't. It wasn't niggers
didn't even want to know if you was working with,
better not to say that. And if your mother knew,
she would tell you better not say that ship. You
better not emburssed me around the family and let them
find out. So whatever you're gonna do, you do it
in private. And you see how everything is evolved from that,
Like everything everything, everything we hands out out like Batman
and robbing. They just made robbing gay. They robbing is bisexual.
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Why the first of all, saving the world has has
to deal with why? And this is the thing growing
up as a kid, and you watch this ship. You're
not worried about who robbing fucking You're worried about who
he's saving. You're actually we don't even see robbing enough
for him to know he gay? How when then did
he tell us this? What is he like? Kissing? Kissing?
The kissing, the boy in the movie or something like
what he's by. They don't have him as gay, but
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they have Miso. He was ready get up in something
he didn't He mad as a motherfucking about rob because
I don't like it. It's like, yeah, it's like I don't.
I just don't like that. Man. It's it's it's like
a brainwash mechanism, like, yeah, these things are an option.
You know, this is the way, this is the way
it's supposed to be, you know, but these things are
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an option. And then it's like, here are some more
options if you don't want to be straightforward and just
say you're gay. Now we have all these acronyms and
half of the fucking alphabet, like you know, weird ship,
like just to make somebody feel like that it's okay
for what they're doing. If you're gay, you're gay period,
you straight, you straight period? You know what I mean?
If you mix with you know, both sex, cross contamination, period,
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Like that's what the fun it is like, it's there's
no it's no ups and there's no downs. And I know,
you know the community is gonna hate me for that,
but you know what, Yeah, a matter of fact, I
think they're gonnaht me to you. So now I take
back that that second cross contamination. You can do what
you want. If you like pussy on Winds, you like
Dick on Thursday, do that. That's the nastiest ship in
the world though. I just think that it's nasty, like
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you can't and yeah, yeah like that. That is crazy.
Man like you gotta choose feeling the cross contamination. I
love that. Got to choose, man like that ship. I
think I think it's not fair to heterosexual relationships. It's
not fair to homosexualations ships because if you're diving a
dab and I guarantee you your partners don't know. Yeah, yeah,
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you know. And that's that's that's where I get the
cross contamination from. There's no where you're gonna stick your
dick in the man's ass and then later that night
or tomorrow you want to fun your wife with the
same dick and like nah nah shout up to the
movie cover said you got something in y'all you want
me blow it? Nig movie not good game? Hold up, sorry,
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it means so much good good game, yo. That said
you got something to y'all you want me blow it?
First of all, sir, we are in the bathroom. If
you don't back the something, I think you got something
in your eye, but you want me blow it like
that was like the pickup line to have like gay
sex with the male while they were in the restaurants
with their wives. Man, And this is ship that goes
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on day. I know multiple situations where niggas had lived
with what you have a lot of time, niggas live
with bitches and we'll sneak out the house to do
ship with a nigga. I think that is the most
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disgusting and ship and you are in fact right that
that is that is disgusting, you know, especially because you're
not giving your made a choice. You know what I'm saying,
You're not even right. And I'm telling you there are
women that are okay with men being bisexual, just like
there are men okay with some women being bisexual. But
when you're sneaking around it like like the saying on
cover when she because Leon played the master game, he
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was like the top. Yeah, he was the one, like
shit Leon so damn sexy and smoothing them up. And
in every movie, yes he was the ship and he
ain't give a fuck, you know, what I mean. But
he loved his wife, but he still loved men, you know,
And she was like so stressed out. It's not even
about him cheating. It's like, yo, if it was a woman,
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I can compete with them. With a woman, I can't
compete with a man, like you don't want I can't compete,
you know what I mean. So she felt like yo,
like damn, like I'm I'm useless to this man because
I'm not really what he wants, you know what I'm saying.
She probably feeling like I'm just an armed piece. Yeah,
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you know, so that really broke her hard. Like the
movie cover, I'm just a cover. Yeah there you go.
Hold up, I see what you did there? Cover? All right?
Well that that's that's exactly. And it's a lot and
and and and that, and it's again, there's a lot
of people who live like that. You know. They have
four families, four wives, but their side piece is a nigga,
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you know, or a male. I don't want to just just
keep saying nigga. You say nigga, nip think you know,
just black, but is a male you know? And I
do think that it is discussing though, you know, but
it is harder for broke gay niggers than it is
for rich gay niggas. Man. I do understand, and I
believe it's it's hard for men period as opposed to women.
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You know what I mean that is, you know, it's
a double it's a double standard. That is literally the
what what we wanted to address. Like I really wanted
to have you on here to talk about that ship because,
like I said, if I would have tried to do
this episode, the topic by myself, oh no, like this
bitch is off perfec. Like you don't have a you
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don't have a right to say, you know what I'm saying.
But I I just I see that and I know
it like I have, you know, family members who I've
seen and a lot of my church family, you know,
they're not biologically related to me, but a lot of
my church family. You know, I have a lot of
you know, gay cousins who grew up in church and
ship and they I watched people like this own them,
you know, their dads and even don't come back to
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this church like crazy. You know what I'm saying. I know, cope,
people that got kicked out of the house, you know
after you know, moving in secret for so long and
then at being axd like, you know, what is the truth?
Tell me the truth? And then you tell the truth
and they still cut them to funk off. You know,
he's come to you know, it's rough. It's rough. The
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community will say you're wrong for for hiding what you're
doing behind closed doors, but then when you come out
of these closed doors, now you're wrong for being it. Yeah,
you know, it's like damn if I do, Damn if
I don't. And then if I try to act like
I like women, I'm still gonna be looked down on,
you know what I'm saying. So it's like it's no
because now you're faking. Yeah, you're pretending, or you're wasting,
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you're taking you know, you're taking pussy out here. That's
for the straightening. Like, it's just so much ship that
you get scrutinized about, and it's like, damn if you do,
Damn if you don't, you just never right, you know,
you just you just never right. As far as the
like paying sexuals, a sexuals, intersex, like all those different
you know groups or you know, committees, how would you
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colonies something mean, it's just they're all sub topics again
to make people feel okay with what they're doing, except
for intersex. Intersex isn't more so a sexuality. Yeah, it's
not sexuality. That's something that you're born with. This basically
a hormorphoditeus when you're born with both, Okay, okay, yeah
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that so it's like you know, it's when you're born
with both. So those that's something that you can't control. Yeah,
you can't control that. So it's just like that's like
you gotta pick and choose which one or not even
then choose like whatever you feel you are. If you
don't have it surgically fixed, you know you gotta so
you can, you can, you can, damn. Some intersects are
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born with with with breasts and then some aren't. So
I guess you can choose, like, you know, even if
you are breast, but you want to be you know,
a male, you know, you do what you gotta do.
But the other things are just topics and make people
feel better about this, make them feel okay what they're
doing to make a scene less gay as a male.
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Once you cross that line, that's it. You just no
matter what the funk, you don't you can't be like, Oh,
I'm just gay today, but tomorrow I'm sure you like, yeah, Nah,
It's just it's you get feel I feel you because
a lot of people feel like, you know, like I'm
attracted to Like for instance, I think Willow Smith is
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uh something where she is. She doesn't see man or female,
she just sees love. So it's like then you buy
like you like both, but she's like, no, I'm not
by sexually. What the funk are you? You know what
I'm saying, Like, I don't know. It's just like people,
it's just like it's it's just an acceptance thing of
my mind. It's a that's a mental thing, like I'm free,
like like you got damn hippie. That's cool. But it's
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you know, why is it so fine? It's like, yeah, word,
you gotta ask people in the community when you meet them,
you know, how do you identify? What are your pronouns? Like?
First of all, I'm not walking up to nobody said hey,
how are you doing? What are your pronouns? Like like
like a robot, I'm a person. It's just it's just
extra because at the end of the day, like you
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just said, the first and foremost, you're human. Yeah, all
that other ship it's irrelevant, and it's like, it doesn't
it doesn't. I don't think I personally don't feel as
though that it takes that much to identify yourself as
who you are. If you gave you gaye, you straight,
you straight. If you're a cross contaminated, you're a cross contaminating,
all right, we're gonna end on that. Not if you
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are a cross contaminated, you are cross contaminated. That was
Prince that said that, not me, So he's never been
canceled before. Canceling him to see how you feel about
that ship. It's like, no, no, no, But I did
want to touch on this ship because it's a lot
of it that people don't talk about and scared scared. Yeah,
they're scared to talk about it. So I really really
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wanted to dig into it because it's what else but
conversation and dig into it. Damn. Oh man, see you
your gay game in there? You go digging into it?
What are you talking about? Oh my god, listen, I
love y'all while they are gay straight hermaphrodite or Prince
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said hermorphonite. But whatever, you know, we're gonna come back
morphing time. And I love you, thanks for stopping by,
No problem, I'm out, bitch. I thought it was gonna
get on, because he definitely was like, bitch, if you
ever thanked me for stopping by, Remember last week he said,
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I was not walking down the street. But look, we'll
see who the funk we got on here. Next week,
I might bring my cheat nests farther pits, you know, yeah,
like niggas, hold on, what old on? Cheap faring this bitch?
You know what I'm saying. Holy, he'd be walking past
like I'm just stopping the fun by. Make sure you're
tuning in each and every Wednesday. That's hump Day and
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Welcome to Carefully Reckless, the production of Our Heart Radio
and the Black Effect, And just like that, we're back
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on the air. Welcome back to another episode of Carefully Reckless.
I got my twin back. Say hey, prints, what's what's
up now? Listen? We played a lot and we we
we had a lot of random ship that we talked about.
I'm gonna be honest, we just ain't know what the
fun to talk about last week. And um, yeah, you
know y'all been with me up until this point, so
sometimes y'all can take a little fumble episode ain't nothing,
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but we are very serious this week. I want to
touch on something that I feel like I can't touch
you on a loan. You know what I'm saying. I
can't touch on it by myself, you know what I mean,
because I am not in the community. And then I
have been canceled by the community. And listen, I know
what y'all thinking. She keep on talking about gays. That's
why one like I nailed, but like, no, I'm gonna
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really get into something that I really have a problem with,
you know what I mean, Not against y'all. I stand
with y'all on this, so um and I want to
bring my brother in because he is gay. It just
seems crazy to say like that because he is gay.
Let me just say it better because he's gay. Okay,
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he's gay, So yeah, gay gay, Like we are serious, serious, Okay.
So this was a part of a conversation that we
were having. Prince and I it's harder for gay males
than it is for gay women, and I do sincerely
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agree with that. I always, I mean, I've always felt
that way anyway, that it's it's easier for a woman
to be accepted, you know, when she's gay versus a man.
You know, that comes from that hits from different aspects.
It could be your family can be you know, friends,
it can be you know, church, family can be your
platform if you have one, you know, if you don't,
it can be your neighborhood. Whoever, how would you translate it,
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how would what would you add to a prince? I mean,
I stand with you. You You know how you said it.
Women can in fact choose when where the men can't.
You know. It's like once you cross that line of
that boundary, you're just gay. That's it. There is no
no I was just doing this ship for fun. I
was just doing this because I was mad at my bitch, Like,
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what the nigga suck your dick because you was mad
at your Like this is something you've been you thought about,
This has been something that's in your mind, Like I
just need one more little thing that's gonna send me
over the ass. It's gonna make me go see what
this nigga throat about? Like hold up what you know
what that? Yeah, that's as crazy as a motherfucker because
and I get it because a woman can do that
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like a woman back. I'm gonna let this eat my pussy. Oh,
it's okay. And men was gonna like to see that.
Ain't no woman excited to see two men? Yeah? Or
or there are some, but I know it's it's very rare.
The ratio is different. More men that enjoy watching two
women than they would be women watching two men men.
Yeah for sure, because listen, I can't even put myself
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in it, like you know, I know I don't want
to see two men. Wait, this is going left with
serious guys. Know at a at a young age and
and I've touched on this um during the Catholic Reckless
episode before I messed with a female. You know, what
I mean when I was like twenty one, you know,
just right after I had ash and I just had
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enough of his dad and I had enough of niggers,
and I was like, you know, I fuck it. I'
musta see what's something. I was always attracted to this girl.
She looked just like young low Wayne. So I was
like ship, but I've only ever been attracted to that
one woman in my whole life. And I tried it
and we had sex and ship, and then after that,
I felt like I didn't know what I was doing.
I was kind of weird. I didn't know what to do.
I felt like we was going to be like thrusting
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our like navels together. It was just like it was
the sciss SCISSI know what I'm saying. I was like, alright,
bamn pow power, you know what I mean. And I
just realized that I just couldn't do it. Then I
was scared of the deal though. I was so scared
of it because it was like I hate PEPs mans.
I hate anything going up there, and that's why I
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don't like for Nikola finger me like, let me play
with your pussy, what's your tongue? Like I I don't
want you to be up there with your two fingers.
Just imagine your two fingers just going up there. She's like,
did you find it? What? Then you're looking for joyable?
You know what I'm saying. It feels like I'm at
the doctors, you know. So I never I didn't. The
only thing that I will allow inside of me, you know,
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is a penis. That's just what it is. But I
was still so fucking tracted to her, and you know,
to this day, like I said, it's never been anybody else.
So that made me question, like damn, maybe I wasn't gay.
Maybe it wasn't Maybe that was just a phase, or
maybe I was just so curious where I thought that,
you know, because you never really know. Yeah's And then
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that goes into like the different acronyms, like based on
what you described, it would be like an a sexual
y'all ain't having sex, but you attracted to their personality,
you know, So I think that fault that will fall
under that that acronym of a sexual whatever you want
to say, whether it's a man or a woman. Yeah, okay,
it's like you're not having you're not having sex, you
just attracted tonalities however that go or whatever one of
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the acronyms. You know that people have to make them
feel comfortable with who they are. And then back to
what we were saying to complete the thought. Look, after
I had sex for her, I went to sleep, woke up,
and then I was straight. I really, you know what
I'm saying. It was just like, no, that's that's sex,
and her want to sleep, woke up, Nope, back to that, yeah,
and then I never wanted it after that, So in
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my mind and to me, I'm not gay, you know
what I mean? And and when do I say I
was gay? Or did I try it? You know what
I'm saying, If you try it once, does that make
you gay forever? As a male? Yes, see, that's what
I'm saying. For a woman, it's like, you can't explain
a story like that as I'm man to a woman.
And they'd be like, you know, I was growing up, man,
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and my big mother got him a fucking nerves and man,
my homeboy down the street looked like fucking Drake, you know,
And I was like, you know, young Drake, you know,
said Drake, like you know, and and you know what
I mean, We just we just sucked each other dick.
But I went to sleep and woke up and was
like this, ain't it eating pussy? Like you know, yeah, nah,
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that's not like Nigga's gonna look at him and straight
up be like, that's it. Where's the woman gonna be like,
all right, bitch, let's go. Let's party, like bitch, what not,
Let's party and everything okay, and then walk up to
you and tell nigger story. He gonna be like, oh,
I don't hear what you're saying, but I mean you
wouldn't try it again. What if it wasn't nigger in
the mix and it was too yell like he's gonna
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try to finesse some ship because nigga's like to see
two bitches together, the average nigga. There is some niggas
because I have a homeboy who doesn't like that woman
and woman action and right defensive when his wife like, well,
dance with a girl in the club, you don't pay
and there are I mean that that's not every man
does not think that sexy. Yeah he don't. You know,
he don't play that ship. He don't like that ship,
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and he stands on that. Yes, I know that ship
is not just to act like he stands and he
don't like that ship. So but the average man is
going to enjoy ship like that. Yeah, yeah, that's just
what it is, you know. But nah as a man, no, Yeah,
let me ask you this. Even outside of you know,
like being accepted by people, how else do you feel
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like it affects like your everyday living, like like when
you go out into the world, like even in an industry,
or if you like or if you try to get
a job. Do you feel like it affects gay mails
their their sexuality when trying to do anything in life,
you know what I mean as versus a woman. Absolutely absolutely,
And and see this is this is ah, it's it's
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a double standard when it comes to rich gay mail
and regular gay mail. There's a double standard. Rich Gamel
can do whatever you want, he can say whatever you want,
he can act as is he want, He can do
whatever he want and doesn't have to give a funk
about people because he's in a position to be okay,
you know, um, there's there's there's going to be a
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fan base that surrounds him because he's being thinking outside
of the box. He's doing things above and beyond. He's
representing for the community per sect, whereas though someone from
your average neighborhood has to be mindful you know, they
have to only act based upon what's appropriate to the
limit of their neighborhood or with their neighborhood. Wow, because
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they grew up there. You know, the ship that little
Nosx is doing, there's no way that average male can
do that in his neighborhood. You just can't. You know,
you can't. You ain't walking around as Snaked or making
no even if you are like a local gay rapper,
you ain't making no. You ain't making no no no
as Snaked music video and the numbers going off the
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off the chain, you know what I mean, Like, that's
not that's not gonna happen. Like so it's only you
feel like yeah, if it's only if you rich with
a platform or if you just have a platform. What
I'm saying, because like a lot of people look up
to Lord's accent, saucy Santana and you know, her Bobby lights,
and you know they look up to them because that's
who A lot of people wish that they can be
just like that. But you know how many you know
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how many you know how many Kay Niggers in the
hood want to do the ship that Santana do. Like
they want to go to the to the street clubs
and tork. But they're better to fuck note, you know,
like get their bodies done. They want to get bbls.
They better to fun not like you. You just can't.
You know, they want to wear long hair with full beards.
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They're better to funck not like if you think he
better to funk not. I keep telling them that ain't
cute k and told him any time. But I love
me some Santanta, but go in. Yeah, you know you can't.
You can't. You can't do that in the hood. They
can do that. They have platforms, are larger, they have
people behind them that's bigger than them, that's supporting and
pushing them. You know, it's like it's different ship. It's different.
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It's it's a double standard, Like you can't do that
ship in your hood. You know, It's like you just can't.
Like little nas X, I think some of the ship
that he's doing is because of his platform. If Old
Town Road didn't blow up the way that it blew up,
I don't think that he never would have came out.
I don't think he would have never really not even
get into where he is. I don't think that he
would have never came out and said, hey, y'all, I
am identifying as gay or however he worried because I
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don't want to. You know, that's not verbat him. But
in a sense he basically said hey, y'all, and it
was he's extremely comfortable. Yeah, And it was like and
it was like, damn, this song is rocking, like you
got the whole everybody, everybody, everybody's singing Old Town Role,
like I mean everybody, everybody, everybody. And then it was like,
you know, the numbers, what it was. He made some money,
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he did what he did, and I was like, boom,
this is who I am, this is what i'm, this
is what I represent. Do you think these then stopped
listening to Old Town Road because now this man is gay, absolutely,
you know. But then it's then there's some people that
be like, man, I listening to that because he is
get this in the third but it's more because he
has a platform and he has the money and because
you know, everybody wants you know, whatever whatever that whatever
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the reason it is, it was acceptable because of where
he was. He couldn't have done that on a regular scale,
Like you can't just nah, that's that's that's not even
performance wise, Like it's like speaking on his BBC performance
where he kissed the guy tuned them down. It's niggers
that's been getting the neighborhood for years, and the neighborhood
knows and they dare not kissing nigga in the neighborhood,
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like kissing nigga in public period, Like you just you're
just not doing that. You're just not doing that. But
he can do it, Like who won't check them? Think
about like honestly, who won't check them? Has it ever
affected you in a sense where you felt like you
couldn't do something where you got a harder time because
of because I know I've been there since you came out,
you know what I mean, And I've seen and even
things that I don't see. I haven't seen much change
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for you, but you never I didn't know that when
I met you, you know what I mean, that you
were gay, Like I I just I just didn't. I'm like, oh,
that's a very fashion forward nigga. He find you know
what I mean, Like he can dance, He never across
my mind that you were gay until you told me.
You know what I'm saying, I'm like, oh ship, cool
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o ship. I'm like, okay, what changed once you came out?
A lot? You know, a lot, a lot of things changed,
but a lot of things because I'm an image person,
I shielded in a mask, masked it away from you know,
the world. Like I lost a bunch of clients behind it.
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You know, he is a barber. Yeah, you know I
lost a bunch of clients. Man. You know I got
a bunch of hate emails. You know, like you never
told me that you lost I know you did get
a bunch of hate messages and ship, but I never
knew you lost clients. I lost a lot of clients. Um.
But it wasn't nothing that you know, it didn't. It
just was like for me, it was more of like
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a freedom of a mind thing like yeah, it's whatever
now you know, like it's gonna be, It's gonna be.
How what how much worse can get? You know, It's
like okay, now, who's no more speculation? I said it
like you know what I mean, Like I don't have
a bun like definitely was like the wrong sound effects
that that's giving, Penis, that's giving. Dick. Come on, I
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told you you're gay, and this is my brother and
we play like this day. But you know, I lost
a lot, you know, um and still lose a lot,
you know. And I think that a lot of things
that that I put together, even in my mainly in
my city, you know, a lot of things that I
may try to put together the orchestra. I think that
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people don't actually funk with me because of the fact,
because you know, and it's just like damn like if
I never said nothing, niggas wouldn't have known. But I
never felt like I had to tell anybody because if
I'm not interested in it, don't matter. You're my homeboy.
You can be my home boy, I can be I
can be gay with straight homeboys. And listen, that's another
thing about you. I noticed, and knowing you for years,
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you don't hang with gay people. Gay man. You know
what I'm saying. You don't and why And they're gonna
hate me for for saying this, but I mean it
is what it is. You know. I don't like the
stigma or the perception of groups that gay people hanging together,
you know. And and let me explain generally when you
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hear gay, you know, faggy or whatever. You know what
I mean, we're generally associated with them thieves, they still
they do fraud, they do this, they do that. Like
it's never oh he has a business, or oh he
has he does real estate, or he's he's a doctor.
Is always the negative about groups of gay people that
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hang together, you know, And I don't know he's selling
ass or he's selling dick. He don't like na, no, no,
no no. So I don't want to be a part
of that. Like I'm a community supporter, but I'm not
a community member. The things that go on in the community,
I don't. I don't partake in those things. Got a
real life, no real real ship going on. And I
don't have time for those general characteristics of that group
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of people associated with me because I don't move like that,
you know. And there's nothing against how you get your money,
get your money, how to fun you get your money.
I don't want you to be like, oh, he's stereotyping us,
blah blah blah, what he think he up and he
gave nigga No no, no, no, no, I got calm
and sense. That's just what it is. You know, like
you know, get your money though, however you get it.
What works for you works for you. Hold up, hold up,
I know the ship getting good, but listen to just
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a couple of seconds of a commercial. If you love me,
you'll listen. Now, do you know any successful gays? Absolutely,
Lewis Baton, Oh ship. Yeah, all of these designers that
we wear when the niggas in the hood got problem
with gay niggas, but they're wearing around the ass but
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they're not ready for conversations and luxury brand. Yeah, you
spend your last on to keep up. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely,
you know you got you know, it's just and I'd
be like, damn, you don't like gay niggs, but you
win all those designer ship. These niggers were for sure
gay and and and was out about it like yes,
I'm out here sucking dick. That's just what it is.
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And you're gonna wear my ship. You're gonna pay top
dollar for it. But you won't even endorse a nigga. Hey,
but you won't even endorse a nigga in your neighborhood
who maybe don't even like you. But you just got
a problem because you're worried about what your other straight
homeboys gonna saying you don't gonna be friends with him
because he gay. Why do you feel like straight men
have such a problem or such such a negative guard
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up when you know it comes to even being around
gays or being friends, not not not being around but
being friends, actually having gay homeboys. If you're straight, it's
like a rule you can't have a gay homeboy or
something like that being together. Why do you feel it's simple? Twin, Like,
it's real simple. The problem is that gay people have
their own narrative on the friendship between them and the
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heterosexual and in a gay person's mind that if you know,
the average gay person, if a straight guy is treating
them like the homie or just you know, like like
being nice to him, or you know, looking past the
fact that you know what I mean, that they're gay
or whatever, they automatically assume that now the heterosexual male
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is flirting with them, you know, and now it's like
they're doing the most you know what I mean. Like
one of the saying keep just doing is doing that
the whole time. The straight nigger is just comfortable with
enough with his sexuality to be able to be friends
with your communicate with you, but you suck it up
by making it seem like something is what in fact isn't.
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And now you're trying to explain to the hood that
you ain't sucking this nigga, but he giving off the
signs like a bit that she really is sucking them.
And it's one thing that is hard for a straight
nigger to get off of his off of his name,
is that he's gay. Once a gay person say that's
like they act like all the ship that gay people
do or people in general. Dude, they act like straight
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gay people tell the truth when it comes straight people. Yo,
you had like it's people that died that has died
behind that ship, like all that type of ship, right,
like people people get killed, like putting that type of
m or But a lot of the times this should
be true, and and it do be true, you know
what I'm saying, Not all the time. It's also a
variation that that's not you know, the people are honestly
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everybody that I hang around straight up and down straight
and they don't have a problem with being around. But
you're not absolutely not. Man. It's like I move, I
move carefully and respectably upon the people that I'm around,
you know what I mean. Like it's just like it's
not that I'm hiding who I am. It's just certain
things aren't permissible in certain atmospheres, Certain people can't go
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certain places. I'm not going to invite my straight friends
to a gay event, which I really don't go to.
But you know, I'm not gonna write my straight friends
to a gay event. I'm not gonna write my gate
friends to a straight event. I don't have no gay event,
no friends. I don't have it. But I'm saying if
I did, I wouldn't do that because that's just like,
you know, you gotta learn how to entertain people appropriately.
It's like you have friends, you know, just all subject
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because you have friends that when you hang with them friends,
you don't hang with other friends because you know, they
just don't mix. You don't put oil and water together
and then get an attitude because it's not working the
way you wanted to work, you know, And that's just
how that's just how my mind set. But even the
heterosexual or homosexuality whatever, I don't believe in public affection.
I don't. It doesn't matter, you know, when I you know,
I was dealing with females. You know, it's like, I
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don't got to do all this outside. We we spend
time together behind closed doors. I just think that it's unacceptable,
you know. I don't. I'm not I'm not going to
do the most, you know, that's just I'm just not
to nobody, absolutely not. What if you're doing something out
in public and it's a kid around watching You don't
even know this kid is watching you and his parents
have to explain to him the birds and the bees
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or the bees and the bees and the birds and
the birds, or whatever the case may be. And they're
not even old enough to have this conversation yet, Like,
you just gotta be and what's around you at all times.
And do you think that is why they are trying
to interject gay and everything in the world, okay, one
time for the people in the back. I think that
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is the stupidest ship in the world. You are teaching
these kids, And I don't want to say that it's
okay to be gay because so many people have that's
like a politic that's like a politics. It's very political,
you know, it's like, oh, it is okay to beginning, Okay,
Like I don't want to get into all that, but
you're I think you're forcing the kids to learn something
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that wasn't taught to us instead of just leaving them
opening to finding out you know later. What about this
with somebody in the barbershop, It was like, you know,
I felt She was like, I feel like the TV
and and this generation is forcing the kids to be,
you know, interested in this because if they don't know
about it, what's gonna make them curious about it? And
I get it, you know, I get it. But my
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rebuttal to her was, you know, well, also, I feel
like it's not even just TV. I feel like it's
social media. She like, what you mean? I'm like, what
does your kid have fortnight? And all of that sudden
she like, yeah, I'm like, you're not listening to what
these people saying, or you're not listening. You don't know
it's no age burriger on, what the funk? You know?
It online and that's some dangerous ship. Yeah, just be
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so much ship going on. And nowadays these kids have
because of social media and other things related to it,
these kids have an option to have a personality. We
had no fucking personality as kids. So you've got a personality.
Now you become curious. You know, we didn't do it
because our parents told us not to do that. Don't
funk with the same sex because that's wrong. Yeah, yeah,
that's it. Now. If it was done, it was sneakily done,
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you know what I mean. It wasn't. It wasn't niggers
didn't even want to know if you was working with,
better not to say that. And if your mother knew,
she would tell you better not say that ship. You
better not emburssed me around the family and let them
find out. So whatever you're gonna do, you do it
in private. And you see how everything is evolved from that,
Like everything everything, everything we hands out out like Batman
and robbing. They just made robbing gay. They robbing is bisexual.
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Why the first of all, saving the world has has
to deal with why? And this is the thing growing
up as a kid, and you watch this ship. You're
not worried about who robbing fucking You're worried about who
he's saving. You're actually we don't even see robbing enough
for him to know he gay? How when then did
he tell us this? What is he like? Kissing? Kissing?
The kissing, the boy in the movie or something like
what he's by. They don't have him as gay, but
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they have Miso. He was ready get up in something
he didn't He mad as a motherfucking about rob because
I don't like it. It's like, yeah, it's like I don't.
I just don't like that. Man. It's it's it's like
a brainwash mechanism, like, yeah, these things are an option.
You know, this is the way, this is the way
it's supposed to be, you know, but these things are
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an option. And then it's like, here are some more
options if you don't want to be straightforward and just
say you're gay. Now we have all these acronyms and
half of the fucking alphabet, like you know, weird ship,
like just to make somebody feel like that it's okay
for what they're doing. If you're gay, you're gay period,
you straight, you straight period? You know what I mean?
If you mix with you know, both sex, cross contamination, period,
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Like that's what the fun it is like, it's there's
no it's no ups and there's no downs. And I know,
you know the community is gonna hate me for that,
but you know what, Yeah, a matter of fact, I
think they're gonnaht me to you. So now I take
back that that second cross contamination. You can do what
you want. If you like pussy on Winds, you like
Dick on Thursday, do that. That's the nastiest ship in
the world though. I just think that it's nasty, like
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you can't and yeah, yeah like that. That is crazy.
Man like you gotta choose feeling the cross contamination. I
love that. Got to choose, man like that ship. I
think I think it's not fair to heterosexual relationships. It's
not fair to homosexualations ships because if you're diving a
dab and I guarantee you your partners don't know. Yeah, yeah,
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you know. And that's that's that's where I get the
cross contamination from. There's no where you're gonna stick your
dick in the man's ass and then later that night
or tomorrow you want to fun your wife with the
same dick and like nah nah shout up to the
movie cover said you got something in y'all you want
me blow it? Nig movie not good game? Hold up, sorry,
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it means so much good good game, yo. That said
you got something to y'all you want me blow it?
First of all, sir, we are in the bathroom. If
you don't back the something, I think you got something
in your eye, but you want me blow it like
that was like the pickup line to have like gay
sex with the male while they were in the restaurants
with their wives. Man, And this is ship that goes
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on day. I know multiple situations where niggas had lived
with what you have a lot of time, niggas live
with bitches and we'll sneak out the house to do
ship with a nigga. I think that is the most
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disgusting and ship and you are in fact right that
that is that is disgusting, you know, especially because you're
not giving your made a choice. You know what I'm saying,
You're not even right. And I'm telling you there are
women that are okay with men being bisexual, just like
there are men okay with some women being bisexual. But
when you're sneaking around it like like the saying on
cover when she because Leon played the master game, he
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was like the top. Yeah, he was the one, like
shit Leon so damn sexy and smoothing them up. And
in every movie, yes he was the ship and he
ain't give a fuck, you know, what I mean. But
he loved his wife, but he still loved men, you know,
And she was like so stressed out. It's not even
about him cheating. It's like, yo, if it was a woman,
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I can compete with them. With a woman, I can't
compete with a man, like you don't want I can't compete,
you know what I mean. So she felt like yo,
like damn, like I'm I'm useless to this man because
I'm not really what he wants, you know what I'm saying.
She probably feeling like I'm just an armed piece. Yeah,
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you know, so that really broke her hard. Like the
movie cover, I'm just a cover. Yeah there you go.
Hold up, I see what you did there? Cover? All right?
Well that that's that's exactly. And it's a lot and
and and and that, and it's again, there's a lot
of people who live like that. You know. They have
four families, four wives, but their side piece is a nigga,
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you know, or a male. I don't want to just just
keep saying nigga. You say nigga, nip think you know,
just black, but is a male you know? And I
do think that it is discussing though, you know, but
it is harder for broke gay niggers than it is
for rich gay niggas. Man. I do understand, and I
believe it's it's hard for men period as opposed to women.
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You know what I mean that is, you know, it's
a double it's a double standard. That is literally the
what what we wanted to address. Like I really wanted
to have you on here to talk about that ship because,
like I said, if I would have tried to do
this episode, the topic by myself, oh no, like this
bitch is off perfec. Like you don't have a you
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don't have a right to say, you know what I'm saying.
But I I just I see that and I know
it like I have, you know, family members who I've
seen and a lot of my church family, you know,
they're not biologically related to me, but a lot of
my church family. You know, I have a lot of
you know, gay cousins who grew up in church and
ship and they I watched people like this own them,
you know, their dads and even don't come back to
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this church like crazy. You know what I'm saying. I know, cope,
people that got kicked out of the house, you know
after you know, moving in secret for so long and
then at being axd like, you know, what is the truth?
Tell me the truth? And then you tell the truth
and they still cut them to funk off. You know,
he's come to you know, it's rough. It's rough. The
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community will say you're wrong for for hiding what you're
doing behind closed doors, but then when you come out
of these closed doors, now you're wrong for being it. Yeah,
you know, it's like damn if I do, Damn if
I don't. And then if I try to act like
I like women, I'm still gonna be looked down on,
you know what I'm saying. So it's like it's no
because now you're faking. Yeah, you're pretending, or you're wasting,
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you're taking you know, you're taking pussy out here. That's
for the straightening. Like, it's just so much ship that
you get scrutinized about, and it's like, damn if you do,
Damn if you don't, you just never right, you know,
you just you just never right. As far as the
like paying sexuals, a sexuals, intersex, like all those different
you know groups or you know, committees, how would you
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colonies something mean, it's just they're all sub topics again
to make people feel okay with what they're doing, except
for intersex. Intersex isn't more so a sexuality. Yeah, it's
not sexuality. That's something that you're born with. This basically
a hormorphoditeus when you're born with both, Okay, okay, yeah
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that so it's like you know, it's when you're born
with both. So those that's something that you can't control. Yeah,
you can't control that. So it's just like that's like
you gotta pick and choose which one or not even
then choose like whatever you feel you are. If you
don't have it surgically fixed, you know you gotta so
you can, you can, you can, damn. Some intersects are
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born with with with breasts and then some aren't. So
I guess you can choose, like, you know, even if
you are breast, but you want to be you know,
a male, you know, you do what you gotta do.
But the other things are just topics and make people
feel better about this, make them feel okay what they're
doing to make a scene less gay as a male.
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Once you cross that line, that's it. You just no
matter what the funk, you don't you can't be like, Oh,
I'm just gay today, but tomorrow I'm sure you like, yeah, Nah,
It's just it's you get feel I feel you because
a lot of people feel like, you know, like I'm
attracted to Like for instance, I think Willow Smith is
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uh something where she is. She doesn't see man or female,
she just sees love. So it's like then you buy
like you like both, but she's like, no, I'm not
by sexually. What the funk are you? You know what
I'm saying, Like, I don't know. It's just like people,
it's just like it's it's just an acceptance thing of
my mind. It's a that's a mental thing, like I'm free,
like like you got damn hippie. That's cool. But it's
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you know, why is it so fine? It's like, yeah, word,
you gotta ask people in the community when you meet them,
you know, how do you identify? What are your pronouns? Like?
First of all, I'm not walking up to nobody said hey,
how are you doing? What are your pronouns? Like like
like a robot, I'm a person. It's just it's just
extra because at the end of the day, like you
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just said, the first and foremost, you're human. Yeah, all
that other ship it's irrelevant, and it's like, it doesn't
it doesn't. I don't think I personally don't feel as
though that it takes that much to identify yourself as
who you are. If you gave you gaye, you straight,
you straight. If you're a cross contaminated, you're a cross contaminating,
all right, we're gonna end on that. Not if you
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are a cross contaminated, you are cross contaminated. That was
Prince that said that, not me, So he's never been
canceled before. Canceling him to see how you feel about
that ship. It's like, no, no, no, But I did
want to touch on this ship because it's a lot
of it that people don't talk about and scared scared. Yeah,
they're scared to talk about it. So I really really
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wanted to dig into it because it's what else but
conversation and dig into it. Damn. Oh man, see you
your gay game in there? You go digging into it?
What are you talking about? Oh my god, listen, I
love y'all while they are gay straight hermaphrodite or Prince
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said hermorphonite. But whatever, you know, we're gonna come back
morphing time. And I love you, thanks for stopping by,
No problem, I'm out, bitch. I thought it was gonna
get on, because he definitely was like, bitch, if you
ever thanked me for stopping by, Remember last week he said,
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I was not walking down the street. But look, we'll
see who the funk we got on here. Next week,
I might bring my cheat nests farther pits, you know, yeah,
like niggas, hold on, what old on? Cheap faring this bitch?
You know what I'm saying. Holy, he'd be walking past
like I'm just stopping the fun by. Make sure you're
tuning in each and every Wednesday. That's hump Day and
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