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November 10, 2025 41 mins

A mother-daughter convo so real, we probably shouldn’t be listening.  As Gia spreads her wings, Teresa goes one-on-one with her oldest to talk about ALL the things.  From her views on sex before marriage, to the trait she hopes her daughters didn’t inherit from her.  Plus, the mid-air meltdown you didn’t know happened...until now!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey guys, and welcome back to another week of Casual Chaos.
This week, I have a very special guest Mom. Welcome
to Casual Chaos.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hi spee heeart. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
You're back again.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
I know it's been it's been a minute since I've
been on.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
No, it has been a minute.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
And now we have a lot more to talk about
because I just moved out, we did Special Forces.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
There's a lot to catch up on.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I know that was Yeah, that was something else. Let
me tell I'm so happy that we get to do
it together. So am I and you're so on So
everybody keep watching. Yeah, no, right.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
I can't wait to watch this week's episode.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
I know it just you.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
The thing about Special Forces, and I think a lot
of people don't understand it is that you don't think
it could get harder, but every single day got more challenging.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, wow, it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, but you always comment on all my Instagram posts.
But do you listen to my podcast The Truth?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, I mean, honey, there's a lot going on, so
but I will listen more.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, that was funny. I could have answered that question myself.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Have I said anything on a line that has surprised
you recently.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I mean I watch all your clips that you post
and I comment, yeah, I do, see, I do like
all that anything.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
I love.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I love the way you podcast, I do. I love
all the questions you ask. I like how you just
get in there down in dirty.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
No, you always say that whenever I even have clips
or even if I just like am speaking in the press.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
You love the way that I always respond and speak.
So that's the world of a compliment.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Sometimes I look at your clips and I'm like, oh
my god, that was such a good question. I love
how she answered that. You know, so I'm taking tips
from you.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
I want to get better.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Is that Bella right there on the left, Yeah, oh yeah,
so cute.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
We are recording this over zoom because I have moved out.
It's been a lot of pressure, for sure, and it's
definitely been a process, but thankfully.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
I have all the help in the world.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I mean, just spending yesterday with you, Louis Christian, the organizers,
it was so calming, and I think it was like
just like it was exactly what I needed before my
first night. And my bet is so cozy. It was
such a nice first night. What were your initial thoughts

(02:57):
with me being out of the house, I.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Need a truth.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
I mean, obviously, I'm sad that you're not here and
I can't see your beautiful face every day. I mean,
you swear you know, but I'm actually I'm like so
happy for you. I really am, like you know, like listen,
I love seeing I love my girls like you guys
are my life. Like I live for you guys like
you guys make my heart tick every day. But I'm

(03:22):
also so happy for you that you're able to do this,
Like you know, you're going to be paying your own rent,
You're doing it on your own. It's like, like I
love it. I'm so like, I'm proud of you. I'm
so proud of you.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
I said, look, God forbid you need anything. I'm right here.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
You know, you have me to fall back on, you know,
like Louie and I will do that, you know, like
we'll do anything for you guys, all of our kids,
you know. But I'm so proud of you, Like I'm
really proud of you, Like I like, I love your apartment.
I want to sell our house and I want to
move into your apartment now.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
She literally said that.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
I mean, I can't wait to give you guys an
apartmentor but I really am so in love with my space.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
It's so beautiful.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, I mean you said you're building. You wanted to
show me, you know, the amenities that your building has.
But like, I love your apartment. I love the view,
I love the windows. It's just I felt good in your.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Apartment, Like it's good vibes.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
You just you feel like at peace and free, like
I don't know, it's just it's so nice.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
And you can see the Statue of Liberty. Yeah, you
got to show Milania. We've never taken Malani to the
Statue of Liberty. Milania wants to go to Statue of Liberty.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
You've never taken me to the Statue of Liberty.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
I know, we've never got Did you ever go into
field chair?

Speaker 3 (04:40):
I don't know, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, we need to all right, So this summer we
should when Milania comes home from school, we should all
take a trip to the Statue of Liberty. Because Malania
is dying to go, she asked me last summer. So
we all need to go to the Statue Liberty. And
we can see it right from your right, from your
your windows.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
It is so nice. Do you trust me living on
my own? Are you nervous?

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Absolutely? Yeah? Now I trust you.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
I mean, and you lived on your own in college,
and if you're going to do anything crazy, you're going
to do it in college.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Now you're a grown adult.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
And you know, listen, you're twenty four years old, go
close to twenty five. January eighth, you'll be twenty five,
So listen, I totally trust you a million percent. I
feel like you could do you do crazier things in
college than in now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
I don't really think I did even crazy things in college,
So there's really nothing to you about.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
And I'm glad I put the fear in you because
you're probably scared of me.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Now. I would try to put the fear in you
guys as much as I could, because that's how I
grew up with my dad. And then you had no no,
still living with us right when you were in college? Yeah, no,
no was living with us, right.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, my mom was.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Already yeah no, no, no, Noah was living with us.
No no, right there in my freshman year dorm when
I yeah, been right there as I was setting up
my freshman dorm.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
How often do you plan to visit me?

Speaker 4 (06:08):
I want it. I can't. I want to wait till
you're all settled in.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Well, you know, non is like literally a disaster right now.
But the organizers just finished the kitchen.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Mom, you're amazing.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Those two girls are amazing.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
I love them fund and inform they are amazing.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
About my closet. You I mean, you know what, they.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Would have a stroke if they saw your closet.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yes, they would, but you know, maybe I consider because
I don't want anybody to see my closet.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
I just have so much stuff.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
That's why so much stuff.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
I have a lot of stuff.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Like I think it's like borderline, like you're a hoarder.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I have a lot of clothes and I don't want
to get rid of it because anytime you guys want anything,
you just go on my closet, go shopping.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, but there's like certain things that like can we go.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
But not really because things come back every ten years,
so every twenty years.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, but there's definitely some things that are like I
do give.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
It away, you know, I do.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I give it to you know, I give it to
our cleaning lady, you know, I give it away to
the need. Like whenever I give rid of stuff. I
don't just throw it out. I give it away.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah, it's true, I do.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
So the kitchen is done today, which is great. And
now Olivia is here. She's so cute going through all
of my makeup and she's basically seeing she's going through
all of my makeup right now.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Let everybody know who Olivia is.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Olivia is my cousin. She is a makeup artist and my.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
God daughter, my niece and my goddaughter.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yes, and she's going through all my makeup right now.
Whatever is my shade and that I could use in
the summer, I'm keeping, and then whatever else, I'm like,
take it all please, I'm like, I have so much,
please take it, use it.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
She'll obviously get my home.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Can you give me some I'm looking for a new foundation.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
But yeah, so it was a lot yesterday.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
But I mean, I remember, just after the move, you
were so excited to just keep to keep coming back.
And I can't wait for us to really explore Jersey
City too, even for myself. I mean, obviously I'm not
going to be doing much until I feel pretty settled
and that once everything's organized. But there's so many restaurants

(08:28):
I walked around a little bit. The neighborhood's so so cute.
So I'm really excited for you guys to know I'm.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Excited because sorry, like, I've been to New York so
many times, so I'm like, I'm just saying I've been
to New York a lot of times.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
But I'm excited about.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Jersey City just because it's fun, it's up and coming.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
There's so many.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Restaurants and like, yeah, it's like I just want to
I totally want to check it out.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
I really do. I want to check it out.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
So I feel like, pick a date because when your
sister comes home, I want to do like being able
to do you know, Girl's day, you know, when Gabriella
and Malania come home from college, you know, for Thanksgiving break,
I definitely want to come.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
So you know, I want everyone here all the time.
I hate being alone.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
But do you have any advice because a lot of
people always, you know, you say this all the time
that you've you never lived on your own. The first
time you moved out was when you got married. So
what's one thing you wish you would have done differently
when you first moved out?

Speaker 3 (09:33):
And what is your advice to me?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Well, I wish that I would have been able to
live on my own before moving in with your dad. Yeah,
because I went from my parents' house to your dad's house.
So it's like and I kind of rushed, like I
just wish I would have lived on my own.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
I mean, I think it's a very good experience to have.
I think everyone should do it. It just gives you time
to grow, and it gives you time for yourself.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Right to grow exactly, to know who you are, to
know exactly you know what you really want in life.
Because I think I just wanted to get out of
a house. So the only way to get out of
my house is like if I got married. So it's
like I kind of rushed into like settling like with
your dad. Unfortunately I really did, like I should have

(10:23):
dated more. And I mean, listen, I have I got
you four beautiful I have four beautiful daughters out of it.
But I'm just saying, it's like I want you guys
to do everything I didn't get to do, Like you know,
I want you guys, yeah, to like explore life, know
what you want in your twenties, Like you think you
know it all, but you don't, like you know, I

(10:44):
think you start coming into who you really are, like
in your thirties, you know, and then I don't think it.
You know, I don't think anybody should rush into having kids.
And look, I adore you guys, but I feel like
you need to live your life. You have one life
to live live at the best way you know how.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
And that's how I feel.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
I agree. What are your best qualities that you see
in us?

Speaker 3 (11:17):
In all of us?

Speaker 2 (11:18):
And oh my gods, I mean everyone, everything that you
guys say about me that I'm strong or resilient, that
I you know, I can handle, Like if anything comes
by way, I can handle it, and I feel like
it bounces right back to you guys, because that's what
Malania even says to me.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
She's like, Mommy, I'm glad, you know. She even says this.
She's like, I'm glad we went through what we went through.
I'm like we did.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
She's like, because I say it all the time too,
because she's like, mom made me who I am today.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
And that's what Malania says too. Malania says, mommy, because
I see my my friends that when they go through things,
she's like, they can't even handle anything. And she's like,
you know, and she's like, and that's what ye, Malanie's
just the same thing to me, and she's like, I
feel like I can handle anything in life, Like yeah,
she says that, and she you know, like Malanie's going

(12:09):
to be yeah, you know, she's junk. You know, she's
still in college, and she's like, I think I feel
like anything that comes my way, I could handle it, Macau.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Because of what we've gone through.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
What traits do you regret passing on?

Speaker 4 (12:24):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (12:24):
What traits? I guess losing temper, Like if you lose
your temper, like you know.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
I think that's just like in our blood though, like
we are Italian, It's just it's in the blood.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, Like I don't want you guys to lose your temper.
I want you guys to be much calmer than me.
And like, you know, we gotta we gotta take more
a page out of Gabrielle and Augianna's book, Yeah, because
Agianna and Gabriella are very calm and we have to
learn from them, yes, and just we do and not
react right because I feel like I feel like like

(13:00):
you met and Malaani are more the same and we.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Have to I used to definitely react more. Now I've
definitely gotten a lot better.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, you have gotten better.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yes, yes, so, And I don't want like, I don't
really want you to be like me because I reacted
real quick. I was definitely hot blooded. I definitely have
my father's temper like my mom.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Was getting so funny because people have been saying it
more and more to you recently, and I said it
to you not too long ago.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
You are no.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
No, yes, I'm totally my dad. No, No, I am
so my dad. Yeah, I really am so.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
You know.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
That's and obviously as I'm getting older, I am getting
calmer and now you know I'm not.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Well then that's what he did too. He was like
the biggest softy ever.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
And the biggest teddy bear right turned into the big
I mean he was really scary growing up, like with me,
But like I wasn't that scary with you guys because
of our situation. I was with you right with you old.
I was so strict with you. Oh my god, it's
so strict with you. Oh find out you are not
a lot to have any sleepovers.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
I couldn't leave the house.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I know, I was like that. Sorry, I'm know I'm sorry,
but look look at you now.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
I mean, I don't even care.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
It's not even like I really wanted to go to
anyone else's house. But but that's what you guys would
say to me.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Oh, this isn't good. Your house isn't good.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Here now, sign, I did put the fear in you
because I was treating you. I was raising you the
way my parents raised me. Like I was not allowed
to have sleepovers, which.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Was like a beautiful way to be raised, like one thousand.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
Yeah, but kids like sleepovers.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
But you know, listen, I educated you guys and gave
talks to you, you know, to all four of you,
because then later on I allowed your sisters to have sleepovers.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
So the only reason why you let them have sleepovers
is because you got soft. I bet you have none
of this ever happened, but because then I would get pissed.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Oh yeah no, if if none of the legal stuff happened,
and if your father was not if your father didn't leave,
I wouldn't have Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
I probably still would have been the same way. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
So I feel like this will give a lot of
other moms out there some helpful advice.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
How do you approach the sex talk with your daughters.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Oh well you just had it so yeah with who.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Gianna?

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah well yeah, okay, but my Adriana, don't get any ideas.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
She is pure and perfect.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
She really is like amazing.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, And I love driving my kids in the school
in the morning. I love driving like I love like
I have one more year left, so I love driving
out Gana to school and back.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
That's what she tells me everything anytime. I'm her uber driver,
so I'm her chauffeur, and I love doing it. And
that's when we you know, she tells me everything.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
She really does.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, well you know, she has an amazing body.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
And like I guess we're not just like we're not
just talking about draw what do you always do?

Speaker 2 (16:25):
I feel comfortable about talking about this because I feel
like it's private. I feel like every mom like they
have their way of doing it, like.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Okay, but I feel like your way of doing it
is I can't believe I'm even having this conversation with
you right now. But d so, like I think she
gives us her advice of like there shouldn't even be
a topic of conversation right now.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
But in the same case.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Justin Kate, here's my take. Here's my take.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yes, yeah, because that all right? You want me to
say that?

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Take?

Speaker 4 (17:05):
All right?

Speaker 2 (17:05):
I'm like, we should never be having this conversation. You
should not be having sex. You should not have sex, tope,
like before you get married. Yeah, that's you know, this
is why my dad told me he was gonna take
me to the doctors the day before I got married
to make sure.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
I was a virgin. Yeah, that's what my dad told me.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Yeah that so, so.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I say, I kind of like I sound like my dad.
I'm like, yes, you shouldn't be having sex until right
before you get married, and but if it happens, just say,
make sure you wear a raincoat, like definitely a raincoat.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah what well, the guy has to wear a raincoat.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
What I'm talking about, he has to wear a raincoat
down there like over it.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Oh, I'm like, what the are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Nobody said that to me, and always somebody just said
they're dying.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Is that you're.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yes, somebody get to work. I'm like, make sure the
guy wears a raincoat. And I said that to Adrian
Audre was like, I know what that is.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
I'm like, okay, I didn't even know what that is.
That's I've never heard of that in my life.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Yes, so a raincoat.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
And I said to her, you know, because God forbid,
you know, you could get sexually transmit diseases.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
That's STDs. Do you know what that is?

Speaker 2 (18:22):
I'm like, did you learn that in school? And she's
like yes, I'm like yeah, you don't want to get
you know.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
And then Audren was.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Like, ew, that's disgusting, and I'm like you see that.
I'm like, yeah, that's what it is, I know. And
then Augianna was so freaking cute though she's like can
I should I say this? Far?

Speaker 4 (18:42):
I mean this, she goes this, I don't even it's
she's like.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
I don't even want to have sex because she's like,
then for me it's going to be really special, and
then for him it's not going to be that special
because if he had sex before. And I was like
die and because I was like, I was like.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
She really is so amazing because like she is, she
just has so much respect for herself, and you know,
she's just also such a mature mindset, like who says
that yet? But she's also just so real with herself,
even when it comes to like relationships and getting dating.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
In high school and all of this.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Like she's so real with herself, like she's like, you know,
I'm not ready, I'm too young, and she's like this
is not this is not my thing right now, and
it's so amazing.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
But I think.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Adriana, you feel the most comfortable talking to her. I
think she also feels the most comfortable talking to all
of us. I would never talk to you about sex.
I know in my life.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
We're really close, Like.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Well, but I couldn't talk to you about that stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
For you, Yeah, I would be out of the houck now,
like go live with Nona.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Like I would get dropped off by the nuns, Like yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
I remember that's what me and your father used to
say anytime you guys made us upset, where like we're
dropping you guys off at the nuns and you guys
would all start crying. It was so freaking killing. I
was like, I can't really say that. I mean, that's
how we got you guys to listen.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, yeah, So that was never a conversation with me.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
And then we even drove you guys once to the church.
We're like, all right, we're dropping you guys off.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
That, yeah, I remember.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
And then Gabriella, I don't think ever we'll talk to
you about that either, Yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
No, but Gabriella yeah, now maybe maybe Milania, Yeah, Milanyah
and Gabriella yeah now yeah maybe Milania.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
And Milani is very open with me too.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
What do you think makes a real partnership work, especially
after everything you learned from both of your marriages?

Speaker 2 (20:59):
I'll communicate, yeah, and I like I didn't have that
really that much with your dad, but Louis like, we
communicate you.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
I mean you see it.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
I mean you see, Louis, I think communication and trust
is kay.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yes, communication trust and yeah, I mean yeah, I mean
you see you see it, like like Louis amazing. He's
like it's so different, like I went, like.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
I mean they're definitely from one scale to the exactly.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yes, that's very different one scale to the other.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
It's like totally.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Different, right, yeah, definitely two different people. Yes, but I
guess you got to have the macho guy to then
get the you know, the sweet guy, so you got
to try them all out.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Well see, that's the thing because when you were when
I was younger, Yeah, I mean, like who the person
I am today.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
But now I think anybody when they're younger, you know,
and I don't.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I don't think it's intentional, but I think a lot
of girls when they're younger are more attracted to like
the macho bad boy, and then obviously, you know, sometimes
it doesn't turn out to be the best decision because
then sometimes the macho bad boy gets in trouble.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
I know. But even though I feel like Louie's macho too,
like I love, like, I'm very attracted to him, so
there's you know he has.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah, no, like he's attractive, but Louis was was not
Dad like Louie didn't get in trouble, you know, get deported,
like things didn't happen to you.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
God, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
But no, I definitely agree.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Do you think if we were never on Housewives that
our family would still be together, like Dad not being
deported and like you and your brothers still being close,
like just everything. Do you think the show like caused
a lot of like turmoil?

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Oh definitely, But I don't want to go back in
time because you could say what it could have should have.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
But yes, I mean, did.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
I get definitely you know, added to the.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Oh yeah, So I feel like I was made an
example of. Absolutely absolutely, because, like I said, your father
had a partner and he didn't go to jail, and
he should have went to jail. So that's what pissed
me off the most. Like I don't care, I mean,
I get it. My John Hancock was you know on
you know, because I went to a closing and I

(23:25):
did sign those papers because you know, your father used
my credit.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
But you know what pisses me off is that all
three of us should have went to jail. Yeah, and
you know, he had a partner and his partner didn't
go to jail, and that's well, you know, and that's why,
you know, I know I was made I was made
an example of.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
You're right and about me and your dad. I don't know.
I mean, listen, I feel like.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
You know, I think, you know, regardless if the marriage
would have lasted or not.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
I think.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
I don't think it would.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
I think he would have been in the States though,
if it weren't for housewives, Oh.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Yes, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
But I don't know if our marriage would have lasted
just because yeah, I don't think so, because it would
have if it would have lasted, it would have lasted.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
So you know, so we were I mean no, really,
I wouldn't want to be married to somebody living in Italy.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
No, hello, we knew, we know someone else that got
deported and she traveled back and forth.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Yeah, but that's just like so like that's just like
very difficult. You had four kids.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
She had three kids, No, but they were.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Two of her kids were already graduated from college and
one was in college.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
So they were all of all of us were so young,
like we we all had to be in the States.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
It would have it would have been a lot. And
it's no way to have a marriage, even for anyone
in that situation. Yes, if you really love the person,
you know, you try to make it work. But like
you suffer a lot of things. You could, you know,
face infidelity with each other, long distance, you're not with
your partner every day.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Like it's not.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
No, it's not. I wouldn't have made it work even
if it was an option. I mean, it's not. That's
not how I want my marriage to be. And I
don't think a lot of people want their marriages to
be that way.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
So I think regardless even if you still loved him
at the time. I don't think anyone blames you for
divorcing him.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Yeah, okay, I'm glad, but.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Let's move on to Special Forces.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
But special Forces was really emotional for me, especially watching
you leave. Were you worried about me after you left?

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (25:35):
My god? Gee, you know I cried.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
First of all, I cried that that whole night in
the hotel, that whole night.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
I cried the whole.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
The next day, going to the airport, I called Christian.
I was hyperventilating talking to him. I was just so emotional, like, Luisa.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Are you okay?

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I was crying on the airplane. Stewardess asked me if
I was okay.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
She kept bringing me tissue. I swear to God, I
wish the stewardess.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Well, can you call g into her podcast and let
her know how I was crying on the plane.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I was hysterical crying. Yeah, like if I remember, if
I get that plane, we should find that plane, find
the stewardess that were on that plane, and they're gonna
I was hysterical, hysterical, I couldn't stop crying, like I
was a mess. And then coming home, Louis like, what's wrong?
And I was I was so out of that until

(26:32):
you came home. Louis thought that maybe I don't know
if something happened on.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
Special Forces, like did you find No?

Speaker 2 (26:38):
No, okay, not that I found Zone, but I was
really like in another world. And he's like, are you okay?
It's like you're very different, and I'm like, I just
you know, I was just so I was so worried
about you, and I wasn't myself until you got home.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
No, I know, because it is scary and you you
understood it because we really were doing things that were
very dangerous, sin just terrifying.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, that living conditions were horrible. It was like, yeah,
it was bad. Yeah, it's like really bad.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Do you think you learned more about me from our
time together on the show.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
Yes, yeah, a lot more.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, and even I'm so like I was proud before
and so much you know, I'm so much more.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
I don't want to say prouder.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Because like you just like, I'm even more proud now.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Yeah, I'm even more.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I like that, thank you, I'm even more proud, and
I'm like in awe of you, and I'm so glad
we got to do this together because it's something like
I'll never forget, I'll always cherish and I feel like,
you know you're going to do the same.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
What has it been like to continue?

Speaker 4 (27:48):
And I was this is one regret.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I wish they would have did the milling a few
episodes later.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, I agree, just because it was really early on.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
It was and it's like I didn't want to trust me,
I didn't want to leave. But then it was something
that you know, because we were talking before that and
I'm sorry, and I just made a call as your
mom and something that I wanted to show you as
your mom, and you know, to prove to you that
you know. It was a lot of things, you know,

(28:19):
like first of all, I would have never been able
to see you fight, Like whoever was punching you, I
would have been punching them.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
That would have not been good, But that would have
made great TV that way.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
It would have if Fox was kicking themselves after that one.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
I would have made the best TV ever.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
And I didn't want you to see me fight because
I feel like I've been fighting. There's like a lot
of things I feel like I've been fighting on TV
for the past fifteen years, like defending myself. And this
is the true first time that I'm saying this too,
So I feel like I was incorporating, like mentally, all
these things about the milling gave me post traumatic stress

(28:57):
about a lot of things.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
And I and.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
As a mom, because I'm always a mom, first, I
wanted to show you. You know, I don't want you
to fight in life. I don't like, I don't want
you to fight in life. I know you had to
do that because that was our task. I get it,
that was what we had to do. But at this
point in my life, you know, I was I was
with my daughter. I was you know, I was with you,

(29:21):
and I was like, I'm like, I want to teach
my daughter something. I want to just show her something.
So it was something mentally for me to show you.
And you know, and I feel like I feel like you.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Did what you had to do for yourself, and like
I totally understood and respected why you learn and I.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Think exactly, I feel like you totally understood it and.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
I was just and I was just like, but I
was upset doing it.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
But you know, I was like, I know my child's
going to understand this, you know, when I'm able to
speak to her and tell her like why I did it?

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Definitely thank you. You've always told me to be strong.
What does strong mean to you?

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Now when you get knocked down that you're able to
get back up and do it with a smile on
your face.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
A lot of people said they saw a new Terresa
on the show. Did it make you rethink how people
perceive you?

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Yeah, and that's not a new Tersa.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
That's a Teresa, that's always that, That's who I am.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
And it's because you weren't around, you know, you weren't
in a toxic environment. You weren't around like you know,
people who are just trying to like tear you down,
and it's hard. And that's what people don't understand, like
being on the Real Housewives in New Jersey or just
being on Real Housewives in general, Like as a franchise,
it is a fun show, but when it gets dirty,

(30:52):
it gets dirty, and when it gets messy, it gets messy,
and when it gets draining, it's draining.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Special Forces, we as.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
A cat like we all really got along so well,
and we had such a good cast, so.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Now we did and we had each other's backs, like
everyone helped out, you know, I'm just saying, like I
didn't feel no jealousy, no toxicity, no trying to tear
each other down.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Like the guys were actually helping us, like.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
We were all, Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
If it wasn't for the guys, I probably wouldn't have
gotten up half the hills I did.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, And like I have to say, like I did
have a lot of guy friends in high school, you know,
I mean, because guys are cool, you know, no me,
They're like, guys are cool and like.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
They were really steet.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
And I have to say all the girls, all the
ladies on our cast too, I thought they were all
like empowering.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
They were.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
No, definitely, and everyone has their own story. So everyone
definitely had an empowering story on Special Forces.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
But we did Special Forces together.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Would you do it again with Audriata, Malania and Gabriella
if they wanted to?

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Absolutely? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
I can't say yes to you, and I say yes
to that.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Let's talk about next Gen in real houses in New Jersey.
So next Gen, myc How does it feel to watch
me film my own reality TV show?

Speaker 2 (32:17):
I love it, love love love It's what do you.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Think is different about it? Watching me film Next Gen?
Versus you filming Housewives.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
I don't feel like there's anything different about it. I
just feel like it's your error. Like it's where you
being your twenties, having fun being out there and like,
oh my god, the sky behind you is absolutely gorgeous.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Oh no, it's so I love your view.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Last night, the skyline was amazing.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Oh I'm so beautiful.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
I know, it's I just.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Yeah, I mean, I'm just happy for you.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
And I feel like you're doing what I always saw
you to be doing because I used to take you on.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Gee.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
I took in so many.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Auditions when you were younger, so many auditions, and and
like we just kept going and going, and I mean
the you know, because you had, like we had, you
had to land the right part that is right for you,
and like look and now you're finally doing what's right
for you and like now you can do it on
your own.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
But I did. I took it in so many auditions.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
You did. You did so much for me when I
was younger.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Yeah, I really did. Don't forget that.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Did you have any hesitations when I first brought up
this idea to you?

Speaker 4 (33:30):
No, not at all. I'm she's gonna kill it.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
And you're like amazing, and how just how you are,
Like I'm take one advice from me.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
Watch your show, Yeah, watch your show.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Well, how do you think I was perceived in the
first season?

Speaker 2 (33:45):
I mean, you're my daughter, so I feel like you're
perceived amazing. But like, you know, I guess you took
accountability for you know, any actions that you know it
was set to you and then you're like, Okay, you
know what, I'm going to do it this way again.
You know, then you saw what people were saying to you,

(34:06):
and and I feel like that's a good Definitely.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yeah, I self reflected a lot, definitely.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
And I love that.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Like that's why I feel like it's important to watch
your show, and I have to do more of that.
And I'm going to yeah, like it's important. It is
it is because the thing is you I didn't watch
the show. First of all, I didn't have time. I
was raising four beautiful daughters and I didn't have the time.
And I'm glad I didn't want. And then look, there
was a reason why I didn't watch it because if

(34:33):
I would have watched it, real houses in New Jersey would.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
Have ended a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
I think or or they would have definitely made different changes,
like a long time. So it was there was a
reason why I didn't watch it because I think if
and it would have caused a lot of heartache for no, no,
and no that if I would have saw it.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
So I'm glad I didn't.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
So everything everything always works out.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
The way it's supposed to. It really does.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Like that's why you can't say I would have, could have,
should have, wasn't supposed to watch it. But going forward,
if Rosse's in New Jersey comes back, I will be watching.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
You've been through some brutal friendship breakups on Housewives. What
is the biggest difference between how your generation handles falling
out versus my generation?

Speaker 2 (35:19):
I don't know. You have to tell me that. I mean,
how does your generation I just cut people off.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
They're like just that's I mean, that's that's the right
way to do it.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
I mean I think our generation it's a little bit
like you know, beating around the bush and then like
finally you got to address it.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
But I don't think it's as direct.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, I mean I'm a more direct person as you
can see, Like I'm very direct, Like yeah, and I
don't know if that's a good way to be. I mean,
it's just I don't know how to be any other way.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
But no, but I think being direct is a good thing.
Like you need to tell people how you feel. You
need to be straight up and it's honestly, it's if
you're not telling somebody how how you feel, I just
think you're being fake.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
But there's a lot of that going on. Yeah, there's
a lot of that going on. And it's all about
how you play the game and blah blah blah. See
I'm not strategic and calculated, so I'm neitherning reo is
what you see is what you get. So I kind
of I don't know, Like I'm not saying my way
is the right way.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
I don't know what the right way.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I get what I mean, I think the right way
is though, because again, communication is so key, Like if
something is bothering you, you need to address it, Yes.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Very And I think that's a million percent that's what
I do.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
I mean, and I think that's something that my generation lacks.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
I mean, you know what, then you do you if
something bothers you, then you communicate with the person you know,
and then maybe maybe you'll teach them something, you know.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, what kind of advice would you give me in
regards to keeping my personal life and my professional life
separate even though they kind of blur into each other.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, I would try to keep it, you know, as
private as much as as you can. Yeah, I would,
just because you learn from mommy. Yeah, I feel like
it's better that way.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
You have had everything, quite literally everything filmed and broadcasted
on TV.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
What do you think I should keep private that.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Your private life. Yeah, your private life is your private
time because I mean, yeah, I mean, you don't have
to show every little thing. And that's the thing everyone
thinks that they know.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
Oh my god, the sky is so beautiful. It's I think.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Everyone thinks they know you by only seeing you know,
they see it's a glimpse into your life. It's not
your full life. So you you know, that's what people
are gonna have to you know, that's what people have
to realize, Like it's it's not your full life, you know.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
You're filming three months out of the year. They catch
you at moments or catch you during times where they
can be heightened, and you're not your true self, and
it is it's it's a glimpse of you.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
It's not the full picture.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
I mean, I just say, don't judge.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
Yeah, you don't judge.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
I know you can't say too much about Housewives, But
if Housewives were to come back, what would fans expect
from the new season or what could fans expect from
the new season from you?

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Oh, I'm not going to give that away now. You
just have They're gonna have to tune in to see
you know what to expect.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
Yeah, I mean it's listen, it's been.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
It's maybe something with cooking.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
I mean, I would love to do another cookbook. Yes,
I would love to do another cookbook. As a matter
of fact, I'm working on my third memoir right now.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Incredible. You're so amazing.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Well, you know I'm working on my have a skincare
line coming out, Sampity. Yes, I know, so samfy like
our tattoos, Sampane and Zami.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
Sampity means in a talent always like.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
You can always do your skincare.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah, you always have to wear your skincare. So excited
about that.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
That's super exciting.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
And there's other things in the works too.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
There's so much. I can't give it all away.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
You know, I'm so happy for you that you're staying busy.
But before we close out on this podcast, what are
you most proud of me for?

Speaker 3 (39:45):
For?

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Just for everything that you've accomplished. Like, look, look where
you're living right now, Look at your view. You're living
in your own apartment. You're twenty four years old, doing
it on your own. You have Look at you're beautiful,
you have, you have the brains, you have it all.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
I feel, yeah, I'm so proud of you.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, Like you're so strong, you're so you're dedicated to
your family, your wonderful big sister, wonderful daughter, wonderful step daughter.
Like you're pretty amazing, Yeah, pretty amazing. So Brady, if.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
We had the chance to work on something together again,
what would you want to do?

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Like I would love to do a traveling show with you,
Like let's like go to different go go to different
cities and like and try the food and say what
we thought, try different restaurants, like like what was the name?
Like a like a traveling traveling to different countries.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
I would love to do that. Oh my god, I
would love to do that with you.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Not do a show where we could travel the world.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yes, I would love that, or pick like five beautiful
places and then talk about it and go and try.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Different you know the better.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
All right?

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Any networks get me and my mom on a traveling show.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Yes, I would love that. Love that?

Speaker 3 (41:07):
All right?

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Mom?

Speaker 1 (41:07):
I love you so much and thank you for coming
on Casual Chaos.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Love you so much, and make sure you tune into
Turning the Tables awesome.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yes, where can they find you?

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Mom?

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Anywhere? Anywhere you get your podcasts.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Make sure your rate reviews, subscribe Turning the Tables love Love,
Love you guys.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
And your Instagram Teresa, Teresa Judys, Yes Teresa. All right guys,
And that is all for this week's episode. Until next time,
Love you, guys,
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