April 14, 2025 • 51 mins
Fellow Real Housewives daughter Sami Sheen is here! And nothing is off limits…
Sami opens up about her difficult relationship with her parents, OnlyFans, plastic surgery, growing up in the public eye and making it on her own.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey guys, welcome back to another week of Casual Chaos.
This week, I have a super exciting guest that I
am so excited for you all to see, Sammy Sheen.
Welcome to Casual Chaos.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Ah, thank you so much for joining. Okay, so let's
kind of unpack. I feel like you and I have
both grown up in the public eye with very hectic families,
so I feel like this is something that we both
can relate to, and dealing with the public is definitely
(00:36):
not easy. So going back to your childhood, both of
your parents are insanely famous. How was that growing up?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It was, honestly all I knew, Like I was literally
born into I think I was on the cover of
people when I wasn't even like a year old. So
I was like, fully, it was like all I knew,
and I only knew it was weird when I would
have friends hang out with me and there would be
like paparazzi and stuff and they would be like, wait,
(01:07):
what you have cameras following you and I'm like, oh, yeah,
I guess it is not normal. And then as I
got older, I was like, yeah, this isn't normal, but
it didn't really hit me until like end of middle
school and beginning of high school, when kids started finding
out who my parents were. And you know, you understand.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Now, of course for anyone who doesn't know your dad
is Charlie Sheen and your mom is Denise Richards. So
growing up in California and especially you know, your parents
having this big name, that's surprising to me that a
lot of kids didn't think that this was normal, especially
because there's famous people flooding California all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah. I don't know why, because even when I like
meet someone who's in the public eye or like I
find out how friend's parents are whoever, like, I don't
really bat a eye because it's so normal out here.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah. So when your parents split, was that a difficult
time for you? Do you like even really right?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
But I honestly don't even remember. My mom hid so
much stuff from me. Like there was one year I
was like asking where my dad was on Christmas and
my mom told us he was skiing, but he was
actually in jail. And yeah, I don't know if he
actually went to jail or if he was on his
way to jail something with him in jail, But I
(02:33):
thought he was skiing, and I was like, that's weird.
My dad doesn't even know how to ski. But I
was so young, so I really don't have that many
memories of stuff when I was younger, And I think
my mom did a really good job of kind of
hiding stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
So she was your main protector throughout this entire thing. Yeah, no,
so was my mom too. Okay, so your father went away,
I didn't. I didn't know that. So were you mainly
with your mom?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah? I my dad, like he was not. I don't.
He was not in jail for I don't even know
if I don't know the whole story, but he was
not there for long at all. Like yeah, it wasn't
like he had like a year sentence or anything. But yeah,
my whole childhood, I want to say, like the first
thirteen years, my dad was very like in and out
of my life.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Okay, he would have been challenging.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Oh for sure. It was the worst if we had
like an event and he said he was going to
show up and then we wouldn't hear from him, or
he would show up like ten hours late. So we
kind of just stopped asking him to come to come
to stuff. But because it.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Was probably false, hope, and honestly at a young age
as well, it probably caused a lot of just trauma
and emotional damage for you.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Oh yeah, especially because then if he did show up,
like if we got lucky enough to see him, he
was most likely under the influence of something. So that
was it's like, it's sad, but I make humor out
of it, Like I literally cannot tell you one memory
from my childhood of him where he's been like sober,
which is kind of sad, but yeah, whatever, it's his choice.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
That must have been really challenging just watching him as
you were growing up and dealing with you know, drug
addiction and alcohol abuse.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, the hardest part was if I wanted, like friends
to come over, like their parents sometimes wouldn't let them
because they knew who my dad was, and like rightfully
so by the kid, I would not let them. But
that was pretty hard. But it was honestly, like it
was all I knew. It would have been a lot
harder if I went from like having a perfect family
(04:38):
and then all of a sudden, he's a crazy drug
addict and we don't get to see him. So it
kind of helps that it's all I know, but yeah,
it still sucks.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
No, for sure, And I mean, you know, again, this
wasn't your fault. So even hearing that sometimes your friends
weren't allowed to come over and it affected you like
during your school years, ultimately like, no, of this was
your fault, but it kind of falls on you.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Oh yeah, I had the hardest time getting into school.
Like when I was applying for different high schools, I
like dreamt of there's a school called Crossroads. I don't
know if you've heard of it. It's I can't even
remember what area. It's somewhere in LA but it's this
like beautiful private art to high school. And it was
my dream to go there. And I had other high
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schools that I wanted to go to, but that one specifically,
and like no high school would accept me because of
like stuff my dad has posted in the past about
like previous schools that I went to. So that was
one thing where like I still hold a grudge because
I'm like, oh, I feel like, I mean, everything happens
for a reason, But yeah, that one was really difficult.
(05:46):
Was like how it affected even the schools I was
able to go to. Yeah, I was just like, why
can I not, why are they not accepting my applications?
Like I have straight ags, I'm a grade student. I
remember my mom had to like write a letter on
his behalf and like try everything she could to get
us into these schools. But I had no idea until
later on. I'm like, so that's why I did not
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get in, and like it, honestly is really nice hearing
that it wasn't my fault that I didn't get there.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Definitely reassuring. So your mom was actually on the Real
Housewives of Beverly Hills as well. She joined the show
in twenty eighteen, and you were sixteen when she joined
Beverly Hills.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I think so you honestly know more than I do.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I have a little cheat cheet.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
No, I know you have your homework right there. I
literally have no idea, but yes, I guess I was sixteen.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, And how was that? Did you want her to
join the show? Because from when you were young to
when she joined the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, I
know your mom has been in plenty of movies, and
she was in the whole James Bond James Bond movies,
which is pretty iconic, but was her career still as
(07:08):
busy leading up to her joining Beverly Hills. Were you
excited to kind of jump back into the public eye
or did you kind of take or did you not really?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, I mean she's always been busy. I cannot remember
a time where she has ever like relaxed further half
the time. Like that woman is always working twenty four
to seven. She is the hardest worker I know. And
so she definitely was still booking jobs and like crazy work.
She had a crazy work schedule before the Housewives. But
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I was really supportive of her doing it. I was
really excited for her, and I'm like, Okay, like maybe
I'll make good friends through this, because it's obviously really
hard making friends when you're in the public eye.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I never know who you can trust exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
And I was really happy for her. But I also
had barely seen the show, so I did not really
know what she was getting herself into. And then after
the first season, I realized how much of a toll
the show took on her health and everything.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And it's very toxic.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, and I she was like debating going back and
I was telling her, like I've noticed a full one eighty,
like do not do this to yourself, Like it's not
worth it, Like these women fight like no tomorrow, Like
you don't deserve this.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah I'm crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
And yeah I so after the first season and after
I was around them when they were filming it, I
was like, this is so toxic.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, And I mean also, I feel so were you
very involved when your mom was filming, not necessarily with
the women, but with her at home?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Uh sometimes they filmed us here and there. Yeah, And
I remember being so nervous to be on camera.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I was so shy when I was in high school,
so I hated it. I would if I came home
and the cameras were on her, I literally would like
cover my face and run to my room and like I.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Was so funny. My sister Gabriella yea, yeah, so funny.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, I was like super.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Private, so she would be like no, no, no, no, no no,
and like run upstairs.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, that's exactly what I did.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
So then, knowing that you hated it, I know that
a super crazy scene happened with some of the housewives,
and I know your mom got really upset about it
when they were talking about a threesome in front of
you and you were with your friends, right.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, we were playing with Barbie's. There were barbies on
the table, like Eloise was playing with the barbies and
we literally, oh.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
My gosh, so your little little sister was there.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Too, Yeah, Elouise was there. But it was just funny
because like there was Elouise was like playing with her barbies,
and we were obviously playing with barbies, but not in
a PG Barbie way.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, being funny.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And then we hear them talking about three, so it
was really like, that's really funny. We're both having like
the same conversations right now. But they didn't have mics
on us. They don't they couldn't hear what we were
talking about. And so I turned when they said, like
I think it was eric I who said something, and
I was like, oh, that's so funny. I can't remember
exactly what was said, but like obviously, like we're in
high school, we know what a threesome was.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
My mom got so mad because she was so like
so classing, like you're not allot to talk about this
and you can't say this and like that around my kids,
and like, little did she know we were talking about
the same thing.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So it did it didn't even Oh, I.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Crossed your mind.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Okay, wait, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It was so funny, and I feel.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Like, I mean, for your mom's perspective, she was probably
just so mad and didn't want that to even be
spoken about around her.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Kids, probably because we've never heard her talk about any
of that stuff around us. So it was definitely like
it was kind of like relieving to know that my
mom also like has these conversations.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
With her friends and like a.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Normal thing to talk about. But she probably was like,
oh my god, my kids, like in poor Eloise, but
Eloise isn't She was so distracted with her dolls she
didn't even know.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
She probably wasn't even paying attention. Yeah, you weren't even
really involved. You guys were kind of just overhearing it,
but you thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, no, I don't even I don't even think. I
was barely barely on camera during that and I hardly
ever talked to any of the girls besides unless they
was like off camera obviously, and like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
You feel a little more comfortable. Have you experienced Bravo fans?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I have dealt with them online and they're horrible, horrible.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, I get so much hate all the time, and
sometimes it's so hard to deal with. Ye, but it's fans,
like it is the Bravo fans. I love them, they're loyal,
But if they're not on your side or they don't
like something that you did, meanwhile, it's not their life.
(12:10):
And if they loved you as a person and supported
you as a fan, they should accept your decision and
respect it and watch you grow in life. Instead, I
get ripped to shreds all the time. I could literally
give you five examples, like.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Terry, you're so sweet, thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I mean, I definitely have had my moments on The
Real Housewives in New Jersey just because not really, not
even in a bad way. It was always out of
defense for my mom. So there I dealt with a
lot of family drama on The Real Housewives in New Jersey,
which is kind of the main reason why I would
say that The Real house Is in New Jersey is
(12:55):
on pause right now. Really, yeah, we're on hold, like
we're on pause, and it's kind of because Jersey needs
a wake up calling away to just I don't know,
it's it was family drama between my mom and her brother.
But this family drama has been going on for ten years.
(13:18):
Everyone's sick of it. We don't want to deal with
it anymore. And this is our real life, this is
what we are going through, so we don't want to
deal with it, and nonetheless the fans are sick of it.
It's almost like this same story that's on repeat and
it's boring, it's getting old. You need to find something new.
(13:39):
And then it's everybody's talking about my mom. Nobody has
anything else to talk about besides my mom. Everyone wants
to gring up on my mom and try to tear
her down and say things about her marriage. And it's
just this constant attack on my mom and it's toxic.
It's so tiring, honestly. So I think Bravo was like,
(14:06):
we are going to do things on our back end.
You girls need to reflect and see how you're going
to proceed to basically create a show that is going
to be enjoyable to watch and sustainable for the fans
to watch. But I've had my moments with you know,
my family, which have all been raw and real, and
(14:28):
you know, I have fans that say that I was disrespectful.
I have fans that say, you're not a housewife. I
have fans that say, no, you're place. But all of
these times when I have ever spoken out, or when
I have ever said something out of frustration or anger,
that was all real. It was me dealing with my family.
(14:51):
It was all real moments that just came out naturally,
you know, they just haven't and they happen to be
on camera. And then it's constant stop with the filler,
Stop with lip filler, stop with this, stop with that.
What are you doing to your face? You look crazy?
(15:11):
And between you and I, I mean, this is gonna
be aired, but I've said it a million times. I
want you after this to go look up a bit
picture of me when I was little. I've never gotten
lip filler in my life. Oh you haven't, no natural lips?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Okay, So I get lip filler all the time because
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
But it's it's okay, it's.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Okay even if you don't even have lipfil Like.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Why are they likes a cute now filler?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
That's so boring?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Like yeah, no, like people are bored. It's it's a lot.
So it's constant comments all the time. The only thing
that I have gotten done was my nose, Okay, how
was that?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Because I got mine done too.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I honestly, I was okay, really yeah, I mean they
ended up when they went in. They had to break
my nose and like do a little more than they expected.
But I mean I loved it. I lost ten pounds
after the surgery because you can't.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Eat Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, I was like it was hard. I was like
eating pastina and I would drink a case of water
I think every day because with that little cotton thing
under your nose, and you would constantly breathe out of
your mouth, so my mouth was so dry.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Did you have those like things stuff stuffed up your nose? No,
I didn't, Okay, we I only had them for like
twenty four hours. But okay, I've seen girls have it
for like a week and it looks like hell. But yeah,
and then know that's so funny.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, And I was very open about it. I posted
about it on my Instagram because I feel like if
I'm open about what I get done, people will have
less to say yes I'm wrong, because they still they
still say what they want to say.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
They will pick apart any little thing, like the other
day someone was saying, my forehead is too small. I'm like, Okay,
if I had a bigger forehead, you would say it's
too big, like way around my forehead. Why do these
people like tear me to shreds for literally absolutely everything
I do? It's crazy. So I started just like h
like not feeding into it, but kind of like mocking them.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
In a way of like, I mean, if you find
humor out of it, it's sure.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, it's funny because like I'll post something knowing like
this is going to piss people off, but like, yeah,
what more can they possibly say? I did not know you.
I guess everyone in the public eye gets hated on
for no reason.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Oh for sure, literally for no reason. It's terrible. What
have you gotten anything else done?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah? I actually just posted a TikTok because people like
the episode just aired where I got my nose done,
and everyone was flooding my comments like this is so sad.
I'm like, what's sad? I'm happy?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Like, yeah, I don't you need to do what makes
you happy? I was so unhappy with my nose. I
hated it, and I got my nose done. I was
I think I was twenty, Oh, I was twenty when
I got my nose done. Yeah, it's been.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
A couple of years now, Okay, Yeah, I got I
started with lip filler when I was like eighteen, obviously
went to the wrong person how to get it, dissolved
to start over. And then before I got my nose done,
I discovered nose filler so they would like fill the
tip and try and make it look cuter. But the
(18:27):
guy literally told me like, you're gonna need a rhino
pasty to get the look that you want. I'm sorry.
I'm like, well, thanks for being honest.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, And then I went through all this work.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, and that that one hurt, Like getting nose filler,
Oh my god, it's like as bad. And then I
got my boobs done almost. No. I want to say,
like a year and a half ago, I should have
gone bigger.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I'm so upset your boobs.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yes, the surgeon talked me down in size and no
because I relaps are not in. I love big boobs.
I think because my torso is so long.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I say, I have a short torso. So I feel
like if I ever got my boobs done, I wouldn't
be able to go so big. I feel like I'm crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, I think if I was more petite like shorter
and like more condensed. I would my boobs would fill up,
but because like my torso so long, I'm like, I
wish I went bigger, but whatever, they're still nice. And
then I got veneers, like a year ago. Wow, I
did my I got my dad's teeth. He has a
full mouth of veneers. So I only did the front
(19:40):
eight ones just because I or I only did the
front eight just because I went through like braces I
did in vizil line twice, I would whiteen them like
I just could not get the look I wanted.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
So I felt like I'm doing in biziline right now.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Oh really it sucks. And those like little bumps they
have to put on your teeth, well.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
That and I noticed it and pictures it bothers me.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, I was so sick of that. And like after
I got my vicilne off, I still hate in my teeth.
So I was like, I'll just get freaking veneers. And
I was at the dentist and I saw a photo
of like a big white smile and I'm like, I
want those teeth. Yeah, and literally a week later I
got it. And then I got my nose done in
August and that's it. It's all. It's a lot. But
(20:24):
compared to some other people, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Me listen filler and botox, I feel like it's so
as much as people want to hate on it, it's
also very normalized. You need to do what makes you happy.
And your rhino plasti surgery it looks so natural.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
No matter what you've gotten done, you've done it very naturally.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Sound like cool, Like I just want like little enhancements,
but those little enhancements like they're kind of big things.
I don't want it.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
The difference and whatever makes you happy. As long as
you wake up every morning look at yourself in the mirror,
you can give yourself a high five and say that
you're beauty and you feel confident in your own skined
I stand by that whatever makes you happy.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Thank you. I agree. I was really confident before I
had any work done. Like it wasn't like I needed
something Like I hated my nose, but I made it work,
and I yeah, if I can't get a nose rob
it's okay. But like I still had confidence, And I
think that's like such a huge thing that like girls
need to really be happy with themselves before they get
plastic surgery or any work done, because like, I think
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insecurity comes from like really like deep rooted within you,
and like a nose job isn't going to fix all
your insecurities and it's not going to like like it'll
definitely like add confidence, but I think you need to
really be confident and like love yourself before getting any
work done. And that's like what so many people don't realize.
So at least I was like, I actually love that.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I love everything that you just said.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I just because I didn't realize.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
It's it's true. If you have deep rooted issues and
you're insecure with yourself and you think that fixing these
changes are going to fix your insecurities, they're not.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, because everyone always comments like you need to respect
yourself and be happy with yourself. I'm like, I've been
happy with myself. I just finally am able to like
get a noose job. Like there's nothing wrong with like
wan wanting a little enhancement.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I feel like everyone needs to tell everyone's happy. Life
is life, and if you are a real fan, please
just support us in a loving way. We love the
supportive fans. And if you don't have anything nice to comment,
just don't comment it at all.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Or like write it like on a piece of paper
and burn it. Ors on me, Like, why do you
have to do in my comments?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Oh, it's come to the point where I literally filter
the words oh sameilters, Like it's so sad. But then
the haters also are the people who follow you, And
then I'm like, why if you hate me so much?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
It's all jealousy like and you know that, but it's
hard to remember that when you read something you're like,
oh my.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
God, Like it's just it gets you know, And I
have never been one to really dwell on the comment
section or make it affect me, but it after you're
reading it time after time again and you're really sitting there.
You want people to go to your content and enjoy it,
watch it, love it, comment on it, ask you questions,
(23:29):
but to go to your comment section and get that
feedback from your content, it's just it's honestly discouraging. It's
a little disappointing. Yes, exactly, it really does. It really does.
So Yeah, bravo fans love love you love hate relationship.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, Like I love the ones that are super supportive,
but I have only seen a few of those, the
main ones I get are like, you're so mean to
your sister. Treat your family better. I'm like, you guys
like this happens to just be on camera, like we're
a normal, like we fight.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I don't understand, but then they should also they want reality.
This is reality, this is life. If you're telling me
that you don't fight with your sister or brother, you're crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Oh literally, And like there was a lot of fights
that me and Lola had that didn't make it on
the show, But what made it on the show was
us after a fight. So I was in a bad
mood and then I didn't want to talk to her.
And then that's when people are like, you're so mean
to your sister, Like if only you knew what was
said before the cameras were wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I know, there's like eighty percent that's really shown you
don't know the other. Yeah, I mean there's twenty percent
that's really shown you don't know the other eighty literally
one hundred percent. In twenty twenty one, when you were
(24:56):
only seventeen, you publicly said you were moving out of
your mom's house to move in with your dad, and
that your mom's house was a hell house, Why did
you want to move out? And what has changed since then?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I mean, I've like had a really difficult relationship with
both my parents, but it was I was living at
my mom's obviously with Aaron and Lola, and like we
were all fighting constantly. I did not get along with anyone.
I kind of felt like the odd one out, and
being the older sister, the blame was like always thrown
(25:32):
on me for everything. Yea, And yeah, it was just
I was really struggling mentally in that house. And there's
obviously a lot that I wish I could say, get
in trouble, but yeah, I just felt like at the time,
me and my dad were on good terms and it
was a more peaceful environment, so I wanted to try
(25:58):
out living there and like it was great till it
wasn't and then I figured it out And yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
But yeah, do you regret making that so public?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yes, but only because it reached the wrong side of TikTok.
Like there's the right side of TikTok and the wrong
side of TikTok. I feel like if you're like like
sometimes we'll post something, I'll literally say like I hope
this reaches the right audience. So I think the wrong
people saw that and like took it and ran with it.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, no, one like it's rough. No, no, but it's
rough if it does reach the wrong side, because then
you just get ripped to shreds.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah. I was expecting girls my age and be like,
oh my god, like I'm in the same boat as you,
Like I also don't get along with my mom, like
this is this but no, people were like, how dare
you have? It's so nice. I'm like, you guys have
no idea, Like what goes on behind closed doors is crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Of course, and everyone can judge, but especially being a child,
I feel like every child has gone through that period
where you want to move out. There has been multiple
times as a child, I've packed my bags and I've
been like, I'm leaving, I'm leaving, I'm never coming back,
(27:12):
and it's just frustration. It's when you're young. I think
it's a mix of wanting to leave, immaturity, trying to
escape the feelings. It's a bunch of things. And you
and your mom obviously made it back to have a
great relationship.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Now, yeah we didn't speak for almost a year, Oh wow,
and great.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
We're just and how was that time when you were
with your dad. Was that okay?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, obviously he loved that I was like taking his
side now after all these years, and like he was
the favorite parent. But I think, I mean, I don't know.
I kind of was just able to like find not
obviously not fully I was so young, but like start
to find myself and like have my own space in
(28:00):
my own environment, and like he keeps to himself, I
kept myself Like it was like nice until I was
just like really lonely and like I was like, this
is not working. My mom's was not working. So I
lived with a friend for a little bit, and then
I went back to my mom's, okay, right after I
turned eighteen, and I just was like I cannot do this.
(28:21):
So that's when I started holding fans. And I got
an apartment a month later and been living in an
apartment ever since. Not the same one, but yeah, I
haven't gone back.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Wow. So then that was Yeah, so you started only
fans when you were eighteen. That was in twenty twenty two.
Is this kind of the main reason why you started?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Oh? Yeah, I fully started just because I didn't know
what to do, because I was just so unhappy and
like I didn't have like every living situation I was
in was very chaotic, and I didn't have like a home.
I guess I didn't feel like a home. And I
was like, I just want my own space so bad,
like I'm tired of X, Y and Z. So I
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was like, I don't know what job in this economy
will give me an apartment. So and I didn't get
any help from my parents, Like if I did, I
would have probably gotten a regular job. But I was
fully I've been fully on my own, like financially since
I was eighteen, So I kind of was like, I
need to be a smart business woman. Here take it
(29:26):
to my advantage. I have parents in the public eye,
like people already know my name, so might as well
do only fans because I know it's doing really well
right now for other people. And it did, and it
really got me on my feet, and like it's affected
a lot of opportunities because it's not the classiest look,
but I'm still really grateful for it, and it's like
(29:48):
such it's given me a lot of confidence for.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Sure when that all started, because like you said, each
living situation was kind of toxic and causing a lot
of turmoil to you, did you feel like that was
your only option because you're like, where your parent's not
going to give you the financial funds to move out?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, I felt like it was. It really was my
only option if.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I like, it was like, if you don't want to
live with us, we're not going to give you the funds,
so figure it out or else you're like on your own. Basically, Yeah,
that's exactly what it was. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
People always comment like it's crazy you how to do this,
like you have daddy's money. I'm like, I really where
I wish? Yeah, it would be nice.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
But yeah, so then from there it kind of popped off.
But then at one point, I know, you referred to
yourself as a sex worker. Why why did you do that?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, Well because like people always like view sex work
as like you're going like an escort or like an
actual like sex worker. But I made sure I like
did my research and like looked up every definitely everything
to make sure I wasn't saying anything wrong. But technically,
like selling explicit images of yourself online two men is
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considered sex work, and that's why I was just saying that.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
We were just trying to cover proper terminology. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I literally was just like well when I was trying
to hook the audience to like be like.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Oh that definitely oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
But just in the wrong way because I didn't realize,
like obviously, like this generation is more familiar with like
those terms with the older generation. Here's sex worker. They're like, what, like, yeah,
sex worker? Like no, I just do only fans like
I've been doing only fans, like I just this is
my first time saying it what it is. So yeah,
(31:47):
I got my mom flipped her with me when I
said that, and I like screenshot the definition on Google
and send it to her and I'm like, it's not
what I meant.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I prom And then I know one thing we say
it gets twisted and word doomed. Yeah, but what kind
of content do you post on OnlyFans? Do you have
a boundary to what you post? Is there anything that
you won't go past?
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah, I'll never do like I've never ever ever done
a sex tape. I've never done like, I don't know.
I just keep it very classy while still giving people
their their money's worth, if that makes sense. But nudity, yeah,
there is nudity, but not full full, full nudity, got it? Okay,
(32:35):
I'm like, I don't know. They're like I feel like
I give people their money's worth, and like I'll tell
them like these are my boundaries. Like people will request
the craziest things and I'm like, just.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Get requested feet picks.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Oh I sell my feet pigs.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
That's like that's your easy money.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And people love my feet. I honestly do have really
cute feets. I don't blame them, but they request some
weird things like put in the toilet.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I'm like, why does that all have the weirdest bet?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Why did that party on my foot going into a toilet?
Like that's weird, but okay, Like yeah, I know. But
the other stuff that they've requested where I'm like that
it's just really crossing the line. I'm like, there's other
girls who will give you that. No judge, it's just
not my thing.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
And is there like something they sign where your stuff
cannot go public?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
No, there's not. I have like a disclaimer on my
page and it has my like watermark on it, like
OnlyFans dot com sash sa machine is plastered on every
single piece of content that I sell on there. But
people will still screenshot it and my stuff, and like
I have a whole team that does take down leak stuff,
(33:47):
but there's so much where it's like and like a
lot of my lead stuff was when I was like
literally just eighteen. I'm like, oh my god, like I
look so weird and like, eugh, I was so young.
I wish I didn't have to start it when I
was that young. But yeah, it's it's hard, Like people
get their stuff league all the time, so it's kind
of just something you have to pretend you don't see.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, no, for sure. Yeah, I mean I know people
make crazy money. How much money have you made on OnlyFans?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
This is one thing I literally like never talk about,
but I will say I'm doing pretty well, and like
I'm really happy with the money that I'm making. Obviously,
like months fluctuate and like summertime or holidays or like
when you have like something to dress up where those
months do really well. But then the months where it's
just kind of boring and like there's nothing looking forward to,
(34:38):
those months aren't that good. But like I would say, overall,
I mean I've been doing it for a while, so
it's been my mainstream of income for eighteen nineteen twenty Wait,
how many three years?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
For four years? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Really wait almost four years? Is that really eighteen nineteen
nineteen twenty three years?
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Three years?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:59):
But still well yeah, But then, like you said from there,
because OnlyFans is your main source of income, and because
it is a you know, it is a very revealing
platform that you're on, you said that has affected you
with other job opportunities. Does that kind of affect you
with brand deals or like what, like what what does
it affect you with?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah? So I've never done a brand deal. I would
love to. I was actually supposed to go to Coachella
with a brand and then they decided not to. I
think it's because I do only fans. I wasn't really
given a reason. I cannot get signed to a modeling
agency for the life of me. And like, okay, I'm
not Like I hate saying that because I sound so cocky,
(35:42):
like why can't I model?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
But like I really like no, But you're also trying
to bring in other opportunities of income for yourself and
it's kind of hard.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeah, And like I don't even want a model for
the income. I just love the creative side of it.
In the fashion and like meeting cool people, and like
I I've met with a good amount of agencies and
they'll just say like, oh, it's not the right time,
or like we think you're beautiful, but not the right fit,
and like they say it without saying it where I
know it's because of OnlyFans, and like I've seen it
(36:15):
with like different people that I've like dated, and just
everyone kind.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Of has this like how is that. I really wanted
to ask you about that aspect of it too, but
we'll finish the job opportunity aspect of it first.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah, it's I don't know, It's just I've.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Kind of seen TikTok is like your other way of
making income.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
To No, I don't make anything from TikTok. I don't
really have like I have. I don't even have like
a good following on TikTok. I just have like random
followers from like a video that'll do really well. But
I yeah, I only really make money off of OnlyFans.
It's definitely been hard. I've just kind of gotten used
(36:55):
to it and that people will just have this idea
of me that I'm this like OnlyFans girl, and like
whatever they think. But yeah, it's definitely like the annoying.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Part of it for sure. And then yeah, with relationships,
how does that go? Do you feel like it's not
like do you feel like going into a relationship you
really have to have your guard up because you're nervous
if this person is really in this relationship for you.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, the last guy I dated, I had my guard up,
but not enough. And I think we only dated for
six months, so clearly it didn't really go that well.
But I it became very very clear what his intentions
were and it was like a learning lesson for me
(37:44):
that I need to be more careful, like he put
on like a facade and whatever. We don't have to
get in the whole thing, because that's a whole other story.
But it became pretty clear what his intentions were and
I got out of that. And then obviously, like if
I'm just like meeting people, like I'll notice different guys.
They'll just like think I'm this crazy girl. I don't
(38:09):
even know because I don't want to disrespect people. They
literally will think I'm I will do whatever, and like
I'm so easy, and like.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, that almost like you're a sex magnet. You're very easy.
You'll screw them on the first night, all these all
these like a stereotype.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah, I'm like the complete opposite of that. And it's
really funny when guys find out that I'm not going
to sleep with them on the first date or the
second or third or fourth, Like I literally will not
sleep with someone unless I am labeled as their girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
And well, because you probably also think in your head,
I don't want them to think that they're getting something
that they're not.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Also sure, yeah, like there has been times where like
I won't give them everything they want, but I'll like,
I don't know how to word this without being like.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Too, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yeah, but there are times they make it.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
You'll maybe go to like base one or base two,
but you're not gonna give them a home run.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah, yes exactly, But then it's clear that's only what
they want, and that's not really what I want.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
So I said base one or base two, I meant
you'll go to first base or second base, but not
give them home Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Like it's just funny because people really don't expect that
of me, And like.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
It's honestly, that's so good that you do that, because
that just shows your respect for yourself because at the
end of the day, you're you also have to every well,
the guys that you're with, they're gonna love like love
you for you, love your personality, and love yourself for you.
At the end of the day, this is an income
(39:43):
and you want that respect when you're going into a
relationship as well.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, I really try and tell people like it sounds funny,
but this is literally my job and I've been doing
this for a while now. I have boundaries. I have
self respect, like get like if you think I'm about
to like do some crazy stuff or like you're talking
the wrong girl.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
No, I totally get it. But then your mom joined OnlyFans,
so obviously your mom was supportive of it. I know
your dad wasn't. But when you're now, obviously it's been
three years, I'm sure they've you know, your dad's got
over it.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
But my dad was not supportive until he saw I
actually started making income. And like I remember a phone
call I overheard. It was when I was living back
at my mom's right when I started only Fans and
he found out that I started when and he was
like on speaker saying, I can't wait to tell Sam
that I was right when she like she thinks she's
(40:44):
gonna make all this money and get a nice car
and apartment and move out, and this is in this
like I can't wait to tell her that she's wrong,
and I'm like, okay, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
You're just waiting to prove them wrong.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah, so I grooped them wrong. And then all of
a sudden, he like turned new leaf and was like,
I'm really happy for doing this, like it's good for you,
and I'm like thanks.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah. And then when your mom joined only fans and
I know your stepdad, Aaron, was he okay with it?
How was this whole transition of that.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
It's really funny. I never even talked to Erin about
my mom and fans, but he, I know, like helps
her with all her contents, so he's very sweet.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
It's so funny.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
I know.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
You need to find a guy like Aaron. Do you
do you love your stepdad?
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I mean we're not even that close, so it's hard
to like, like we don't ever hang out, we never talk,
so yeah, I feel like that's a stretch, Okay, but
if he makes her happy, then.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, my mom she when I started only fans, she
didn't really know what it was, and I was like
trying to explain to her, like I wouldn't be doing
anything crazy because I really just started off with doing
like lingerie photos. It was very very new to it.
I was also very young, and I knew I was young,
so I didn't want to do anything.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Comfortability level probably was like not nowhere near.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, Like I had very very very strict boundaries. And
she was like, I don't agree with it, but I'll
still support you. And we've never gotten an argument about it.
And then she saw that I was doing really well
and she was like, I want to start only fans,
so she did, and I was so mad at her
at first.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Fore you did you feel like this was like this
is my thing?
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah? Was like I also have been only known as
like Denise Richards or Charlie Sheen's daughter, so I was
so excited. I remember I had my first article come
out where it was just Sammy Sheen and it wasn't
like Charlie Sheen's daughter.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yeah. Wait, that's so funny. I feel like I deal
with that so much too. Yeah. Teresa Judice's daughter Gea
said this, and you know that's why even with this podcast,
and I have you know, things in the works right
now for twenty twenty five that I'm super excited about.
But even me, I'm you know, trying to get into
(43:02):
my own path. As much as I love my family
and I will always back them up, support them, have
them right behind me, x y Z, I'm also trying
to step into my own as well. So I totally understand.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah, it's really really hard making a name for yourself
when you already have parents who are in the public eye.
So I was that's why I was like so excited
to also start this and like have people know me
for me. And then my mom started one and I
was like, thank you for taking my spotlight. I was
so upset and a lot of my subscribers because they
(43:35):
all subscribed me because they're like, oh, this is like
the next best thing of like Denise Richards, because like
they're all like obsessed with her, like wow things era
and like all that stuff. Yeah, so when she started it,
oh my god, they flooded to her page from my
page and I lost so many subscribers at first.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Oh wow. Yeah, so that probably was that probably pissed
you off even more.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Yeah, I was just like mad that she couldn't really
let me have my moment at first, But now it's
kind of obviously we have our own fan bases now
and like we have different content, like so we have
different fan bases that prefer one or the other. But
at first it was like crazy, No.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
For sure, I'm sure. So I'm happy that that all
died down. I'm happy you both now have your moment
and everyone knows Sammy She and as Sammy She, and
she has her own platform with also your mom going
(44:41):
back on Bravo, and now you guys having your own show.
I know that your relationship with your parents have been
mushy washy, but I know you said in recent episodes
you haven't talked to your dad in five months and
that you wouldn't even want to get lunch with him.
I know you said you lived with him and all
of this. It has it turned since then, or do
you still not speak to him?
Speaker 2 (45:01):
So we haven't we haven't spoken on the phone in
almost a year, and then we haven't texted in a
little over six months. I think it we were like fine,
he was working on his own stuff and like pretty busy,
so we weren't even that close anymore. But then I
(45:22):
really got frustrated because it was when I got my
nose surgery. I was really mad that he couldn't even
like call me or anything to see if I made
it out of surgery, which even though it's not like
a it is a big surgery, but it's not like
I was.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Like life or death. Yeah yeah, but still it's still
the support of it. Yeah, you're still going under anesthesia.
The dog the anesthesiologist could give you a little too
much and something to talk to the worst, like one
hundred percent. You never know what's gonna happen when you
go under.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I was like pretty upset that he didn't call me
after surgery or he texted me twenty four hours later
being like, oh, did you make it out okay? And
I'm like I could have been dead by now, but yeah,
I'm fine. Yeah. And then we kind of got into
it and he was like saying stuff, being like, oh,
it's not like you got a new kidney, You're fine,
and I was like, okay, thank you for making his words,
(46:13):
and it really just like tumbled into something really big
where I had to really distance myself and then yeah,
we he got I actually had to block him because
he was sending me some crazy stuff and then he.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Still deal with addiction problems.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
He's been sober for the past like I want to say,
like five years now, but I obviously haven't spoken to
him in a while, so I can't speak. I have
no idea if he's still sober. I honestly hope the
stuff he was sending me was because he wasn't sober,
because I'm like that would at least make it a
(46:55):
little better. But yeah, so I've had him blocked for
a minute now. I had to block his email as well,
and then he actually got a new number on Christmas
to text me other other crazy stuff where I had
to block that number. So I'm like, fully, we're done.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, so it hasn't. It kind of went into like
a full but it didn't stop.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah. I got pretty bad to where I had to
like put a stop to it and tell him, like,
do not contact me ever again because this is crazy.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
So yeah, yeah it's And.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
People are like that's crazy, like you'll take his money
but you won't speak to him. I'm like, you guys
make my blood boil. You have no idea? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
so we are not speaking, but him and Lola are
really close and like he always goes over to hers
and like we'll say hi to her.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Does that, ever, you know, make you feel a certain
type of way.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah, it is a little frustrating that they have.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Is Lola ever try to help you out and defend
you in that aspect with your dad?
Speaker 2 (48:00):
No, not really. I think she also just like hates
getting involved in like arguments and stuff, and she'll like
tell me, like, well, you only have one dad, like
you should text him, like of course, you have no
idea the stuff he was sending me. So it is
a little frustrating that he will like bring her gifts
and like go say hi to her, and it's just
(48:22):
like I don't know, but I think as Lola has
a harder time like putting her foot down, and like
she's more she's very like okay, like that's fine, like yeah,
it's okay, sorry, And I'm more like I absolutely not,
like I don't have any disrespect. So we're very different
and nonsense. But I don't blame her because sometimes it
is a little easier just kind of not dealing with it.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
One hundred percent. I mean, I get it. I'm kind
of like you in a sense, but then I'm also like,
h do I want to deal with this right now?
I don't know, but I fully understand when I when
I am pushed to my breaking point. I really I'm
just like you.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Yeah, well, it gets to a point where you're like,
if you have like respect for yourself and like you
kind of just need to know when it's time to
put it unto certain things.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Yeah. Well, I'm really happy that everything in your life
has been on track for the most part. I'm sorry
that you have to deal with these issues with your dad,
but hopefully, you know, hopefully one day you guys can
make amends and move forward. But we'll see.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
I'm sorry what you're going through too. I'm so proud
of you for your podcast. That's such a big deal
and like everything you've been like marketing it so it's
so cute and like I love it.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Thank you so much of course, and you know, with
only fans, I hope you I wish you the most success,
and I hope that you do find somebody one day
who respects you for you, because you really are such
a beautiful person. And this has been such a fun interview.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
You're so sweet. Thank you so much and this was
my first podcast by myself.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Is it? Did I make you feel comfortable?
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Oh my gosh, so sweet.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Listen, we've both been through a lot. I feel like
everybody has their story, everybody has their side, everyone has
their version. But no matter what, this is also what
has made us the women we are today. You could
tell that you are very mature for your age, and
I know, I like we've had to grow up super fast.
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When you deal with a lot of things when you're young,
it forces you to grow up quickly and it's but
it makes you listen. It could affect you for the
worst and we could have both turned to probably pretty
ugly things from what we've been through. Or you make
the best out of it and you capitalize on our platforms.
You try to be your best self and put your
(50:52):
best foot forward and show the fans who you are.
So I think we've done a pretty good job.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
I think so too.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
But Sammy Sheen, thank you so much for being on
Casual Chaos. This was such a fun episode and we
are definitely going to hang out soon.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Oh yeah, I can't wait. And thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Oh, no problem.
Hey guys, welcome back to another week of Casual Chaos.
This week, I have a super exciting guest that I
am so excited for you all to see, Sammy Sheen.
Welcome to Casual Chaos.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Ah, thank you so much for joining. Okay, so let's
kind of unpack. I feel like you and I have
both grown up in the public eye with very hectic families,
so I feel like this is something that we both
can relate to, and dealing with the public is definitely
(00:36):
not easy. So going back to your childhood, both of
your parents are insanely famous. How was that growing up?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It was, honestly all I knew, Like I was literally
born into I think I was on the cover of
people when I wasn't even like a year old. So
I was like, fully, it was like all I knew,
and I only knew it was weird when I would
have friends hang out with me and there would be
like paparazzi and stuff and they would be like, wait,
(01:07):
what you have cameras following you and I'm like, oh, yeah,
I guess it is not normal. And then as I
got older, I was like, yeah, this isn't normal, but
it didn't really hit me until like end of middle
school and beginning of high school, when kids started finding
out who my parents were. And you know, you understand.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Now, of course for anyone who doesn't know your dad
is Charlie Sheen and your mom is Denise Richards. So
growing up in California and especially you know, your parents
having this big name, that's surprising to me that a
lot of kids didn't think that this was normal, especially
because there's famous people flooding California all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah. I don't know why, because even when I like
meet someone who's in the public eye or like I
find out how friend's parents are whoever, like, I don't
really bat a eye because it's so normal out here.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah. So when your parents split, was that a difficult
time for you? Do you like even really right?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
But I honestly don't even remember. My mom hid so
much stuff from me. Like there was one year I
was like asking where my dad was on Christmas and
my mom told us he was skiing, but he was
actually in jail. And yeah, I don't know if he
actually went to jail or if he was on his
way to jail something with him in jail, But I
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thought he was skiing, and I was like, that's weird.
My dad doesn't even know how to ski. But I
was so young, so I really don't have that many
memories of stuff when I was younger, And I think
my mom did a really good job of kind of
hiding stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
So she was your main protector throughout this entire thing. Yeah, no,
so was my mom too. Okay, so your father went away,
I didn't. I didn't know that. So were you mainly
with your mom?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah? I my dad, like he was not. I don't.
He was not in jail for I don't even know
if I don't know the whole story, but he was
not there for long at all. Like yeah, it wasn't
like he had like a year sentence or anything. But yeah,
my whole childhood, I want to say, like the first
thirteen years, my dad was very like in and out
of my life.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Okay, he would have been challenging.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Oh for sure. It was the worst if we had
like an event and he said he was going to
show up and then we wouldn't hear from him, or
he would show up like ten hours late. So we
kind of just stopped asking him to come to come
to stuff. But because it.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Was probably false, hope, and honestly at a young age
as well, it probably caused a lot of just trauma
and emotional damage for you.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Oh yeah, especially because then if he did show up,
like if we got lucky enough to see him, he
was most likely under the influence of something. So that
was it's like, it's sad, but I make humor out
of it, Like I literally cannot tell you one memory
from my childhood of him where he's been like sober,
which is kind of sad, but yeah, whatever, it's his choice.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
That must have been really challenging just watching him as
you were growing up and dealing with you know, drug
addiction and alcohol abuse.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, the hardest part was if I wanted, like friends
to come over, like their parents sometimes wouldn't let them
because they knew who my dad was, and like rightfully
so by the kid, I would not let them. But
that was pretty hard. But it was honestly, like it
was all I knew. It would have been a lot
harder if I went from like having a perfect family
(04:38):
and then all of a sudden, he's a crazy drug
addict and we don't get to see him. So it
kind of helps that it's all I know, but yeah,
it still sucks.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
No, for sure, And I mean, you know, again, this
wasn't your fault. So even hearing that sometimes your friends
weren't allowed to come over and it affected you like
during your school years, ultimately like, no, of this was
your fault, but it kind of falls on you.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Oh yeah, I had the hardest time getting into school.
Like when I was applying for different high schools, I
like dreamt of there's a school called Crossroads. I don't
know if you've heard of it. It's I can't even
remember what area. It's somewhere in LA but it's this
like beautiful private art to high school. And it was
my dream to go there. And I had other high
(05:26):
schools that I wanted to go to, but that one specifically,
and like no high school would accept me because of
like stuff my dad has posted in the past about
like previous schools that I went to. So that was
one thing where like I still hold a grudge because
I'm like, oh, I feel like, I mean, everything happens
for a reason, But yeah, that one was really difficult.
(05:46):
Was like how it affected even the schools I was
able to go to. Yeah, I was just like, why
can I not, why are they not accepting my applications?
Like I have straight ags, I'm a grade student. I
remember my mom had to like write a letter on
his behalf and like try everything she could to get
us into these schools. But I had no idea until
later on. I'm like, so that's why I did not
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get in, and like it, honestly is really nice hearing
that it wasn't my fault that I didn't get there.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Definitely reassuring. So your mom was actually on the Real
Housewives of Beverly Hills as well. She joined the show
in twenty eighteen, and you were sixteen when she joined
Beverly Hills.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I think so you honestly know more than I do.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I have a little cheat cheet.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
No, I know you have your homework right there. I
literally have no idea, but yes, I guess I was sixteen.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, And how was that? Did you want her to
join the show? Because from when you were young to
when she joined the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, I
know your mom has been in plenty of movies, and
she was in the whole James Bond James Bond movies,
which is pretty iconic, but was her career still as
(07:08):
busy leading up to her joining Beverly Hills. Were you
excited to kind of jump back into the public eye
or did you kind of take or did you not really?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, I mean she's always been busy. I cannot remember
a time where she has ever like relaxed further half
the time. Like that woman is always working twenty four
to seven. She is the hardest worker I know. And
so she definitely was still booking jobs and like crazy work.
She had a crazy work schedule before the Housewives. But
(07:41):
I was really supportive of her doing it. I was
really excited for her, and I'm like, Okay, like maybe
I'll make good friends through this, because it's obviously really
hard making friends when you're in the public eye.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I never know who you can trust exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
And I was really happy for her. But I also
had barely seen the show, so I did not really
know what she was getting herself into. And then after
the first season, I realized how much of a toll
the show took on her health and everything.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And it's very toxic.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, and I she was like debating going back and
I was telling her, like I've noticed a full one eighty,
like do not do this to yourself, Like it's not
worth it, Like these women fight like no tomorrow, Like
you don't deserve this.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah I'm crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
And yeah I so after the first season and after
I was around them when they were filming it, I
was like, this is so toxic.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, And I mean also, I feel so were you
very involved when your mom was filming, not necessarily with
the women, but with her at home?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Uh sometimes they filmed us here and there. Yeah, And
I remember being so nervous to be on camera.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I was so shy when I was in high school,
so I hated it. I would if I came home
and the cameras were on her, I literally would like
cover my face and run to my room and like I.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Was so funny. My sister Gabriella yea, yeah, so funny.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, I was like super.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Private, so she would be like no, no, no, no, no no,
and like run upstairs.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, that's exactly what I did.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
So then, knowing that you hated it, I know that
a super crazy scene happened with some of the housewives,
and I know your mom got really upset about it
when they were talking about a threesome in front of
you and you were with your friends, right.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, we were playing with Barbie's. There were barbies on
the table, like Eloise was playing with the barbies and
we literally, oh.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
My gosh, so your little little sister was there.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Too, Yeah, Elouise was there. But it was just funny
because like there was Elouise was like playing with her barbies,
and we were obviously playing with barbies, but not in
a PG Barbie way.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, being funny.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And then we hear them talking about three, so it
was really like, that's really funny. We're both having like
the same conversations right now. But they didn't have mics
on us. They don't they couldn't hear what we were
talking about. And so I turned when they said, like
I think it was eric I who said something, and
I was like, oh, that's so funny. I can't remember
exactly what was said, but like obviously, like we're in
high school, we know what a threesome was.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
My mom got so mad because she was so like
so classing, like you're not allot to talk about this
and you can't say this and like that around my kids,
and like, little did she know we were talking about
the same thing.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So it did it didn't even Oh, I.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Crossed your mind.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Okay, wait, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It was so funny, and I feel.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Like, I mean, for your mom's perspective, she was probably
just so mad and didn't want that to even be
spoken about around her.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Kids, probably because we've never heard her talk about any
of that stuff around us. So it was definitely like
it was kind of like relieving to know that my
mom also like has these conversations.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
With her friends and like a.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Normal thing to talk about. But she probably was like,
oh my god, my kids, like in poor Eloise, but
Eloise isn't She was so distracted with her dolls she
didn't even know.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
She probably wasn't even paying attention. Yeah, you weren't even
really involved. You guys were kind of just overhearing it,
but you thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, no, I don't even I don't even think. I
was barely barely on camera during that and I hardly
ever talked to any of the girls besides unless they
was like off camera obviously, and like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
You feel a little more comfortable. Have you experienced Bravo fans?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I have dealt with them online and they're horrible, horrible.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, I get so much hate all the time, and
sometimes it's so hard to deal with. Ye, but it's fans,
like it is the Bravo fans. I love them, they're loyal,
But if they're not on your side or they don't
like something that you did, meanwhile, it's not their life.
(12:10):
And if they loved you as a person and supported
you as a fan, they should accept your decision and
respect it and watch you grow in life. Instead, I
get ripped to shreds all the time. I could literally
give you five examples, like.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Terry, you're so sweet, thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I mean, I definitely have had my moments on The
Real Housewives in New Jersey just because not really, not
even in a bad way. It was always out of
defense for my mom. So there I dealt with a
lot of family drama on The Real Housewives in New Jersey,
which is kind of the main reason why I would
say that The Real house Is in New Jersey is
(12:55):
on pause right now. Really, yeah, we're on hold, like
we're on pause, and it's kind of because Jersey needs
a wake up calling away to just I don't know,
it's it was family drama between my mom and her brother.
But this family drama has been going on for ten years.
(13:18):
Everyone's sick of it. We don't want to deal with
it anymore. And this is our real life, this is
what we are going through, so we don't want to
deal with it, and nonetheless the fans are sick of it.
It's almost like this same story that's on repeat and
it's boring, it's getting old. You need to find something new.
(13:39):
And then it's everybody's talking about my mom. Nobody has
anything else to talk about besides my mom. Everyone wants
to gring up on my mom and try to tear
her down and say things about her marriage. And it's
just this constant attack on my mom and it's toxic.
It's so tiring, honestly. So I think Bravo was like,
(14:06):
we are going to do things on our back end.
You girls need to reflect and see how you're going
to proceed to basically create a show that is going
to be enjoyable to watch and sustainable for the fans
to watch. But I've had my moments with you know,
my family, which have all been raw and real, and
(14:28):
you know, I have fans that say that I was disrespectful.
I have fans that say, you're not a housewife. I
have fans that say, no, you're place. But all of
these times when I have ever spoken out, or when
I have ever said something out of frustration or anger,
that was all real. It was me dealing with my family.
(14:51):
It was all real moments that just came out naturally,
you know, they just haven't and they happen to be
on camera. And then it's constant stop with the filler,
Stop with lip filler, stop with this, stop with that.
What are you doing to your face? You look crazy?
(15:11):
And between you and I, I mean, this is gonna
be aired, but I've said it a million times. I
want you after this to go look up a bit
picture of me when I was little. I've never gotten
lip filler in my life. Oh you haven't, no natural lips?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Okay, So I get lip filler all the time because
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
But it's it's okay, it's.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Okay even if you don't even have lipfil Like.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Why are they likes a cute now filler?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
That's so boring?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Like yeah, no, like people are bored. It's it's a lot.
So it's constant comments all the time. The only thing
that I have gotten done was my nose, Okay, how
was that?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Because I got mine done too.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I honestly, I was okay, really yeah, I mean they
ended up when they went in. They had to break
my nose and like do a little more than they expected.
But I mean I loved it. I lost ten pounds
after the surgery because you can't.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Eat Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, I was like it was hard. I was like
eating pastina and I would drink a case of water
I think every day because with that little cotton thing
under your nose, and you would constantly breathe out of
your mouth, so my mouth was so dry.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Did you have those like things stuff stuffed up your nose? No,
I didn't, Okay, we I only had them for like
twenty four hours. But okay, I've seen girls have it
for like a week and it looks like hell. But yeah,
and then know that's so funny.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, And I was very open about it. I posted
about it on my Instagram because I feel like if
I'm open about what I get done, people will have
less to say yes I'm wrong, because they still they
still say what they want to say.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
They will pick apart any little thing, like the other
day someone was saying, my forehead is too small. I'm like, Okay,
if I had a bigger forehead, you would say it's
too big, like way around my forehead. Why do these
people like tear me to shreds for literally absolutely everything
I do? It's crazy. So I started just like h
like not feeding into it, but kind of like mocking them.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
In a way of like, I mean, if you find
humor out of it, it's sure.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, it's funny because like I'll post something knowing like
this is going to piss people off, but like, yeah,
what more can they possibly say? I did not know you.
I guess everyone in the public eye gets hated on
for no reason.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Oh for sure, literally for no reason. It's terrible. What
have you gotten anything else done?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah? I actually just posted a TikTok because people like
the episode just aired where I got my nose done,
and everyone was flooding my comments like this is so sad.
I'm like, what's sad? I'm happy?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Like, yeah, I don't you need to do what makes
you happy? I was so unhappy with my nose. I
hated it, and I got my nose done. I was
I think I was twenty, Oh, I was twenty when
I got my nose done. Yeah, it's been.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
A couple of years now, Okay, Yeah, I got I
started with lip filler when I was like eighteen, obviously
went to the wrong person how to get it, dissolved
to start over. And then before I got my nose done,
I discovered nose filler so they would like fill the
tip and try and make it look cuter. But the
(18:27):
guy literally told me like, you're gonna need a rhino
pasty to get the look that you want. I'm sorry.
I'm like, well, thanks for being honest.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, And then I went through all this work.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, and that that one hurt, Like getting nose filler,
Oh my god, it's like as bad. And then I
got my boobs done almost. No. I want to say,
like a year and a half ago, I should have
gone bigger.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I'm so upset your boobs.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yes, the surgeon talked me down in size and no
because I relaps are not in. I love big boobs.
I think because my torso is so long.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I say, I have a short torso. So I feel
like if I ever got my boobs done, I wouldn't
be able to go so big. I feel like I'm crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, I think if I was more petite like shorter
and like more condensed. I would my boobs would fill up,
but because like my torso so long, I'm like, I
wish I went bigger, but whatever, they're still nice. And
then I got veneers, like a year ago. Wow, I
did my I got my dad's teeth. He has a
full mouth of veneers. So I only did the front
(19:40):
eight ones just because I or I only did the
front eight just because I went through like braces I
did in vizil line twice, I would whiteen them like
I just could not get the look I wanted.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
So I felt like I'm doing in biziline right now.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Oh really it sucks. And those like little bumps they
have to put on your teeth, well.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
That and I noticed it and pictures it bothers me.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, I was so sick of that. And like after
I got my vicilne off, I still hate in my teeth.
So I was like, I'll just get freaking veneers. And
I was at the dentist and I saw a photo
of like a big white smile and I'm like, I
want those teeth. Yeah, and literally a week later I
got it. And then I got my nose done in
August and that's it. It's all. It's a lot. But
(20:24):
compared to some other people, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Me listen filler and botox, I feel like it's so
as much as people want to hate on it, it's
also very normalized. You need to do what makes you happy.
And your rhino plasti surgery it looks so natural.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
No matter what you've gotten done, you've done it very naturally.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Sound like cool, Like I just want like little enhancements,
but those little enhancements like they're kind of big things.
I don't want it.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
The difference and whatever makes you happy. As long as
you wake up every morning look at yourself in the mirror,
you can give yourself a high five and say that
you're beauty and you feel confident in your own skined
I stand by that whatever makes you happy.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Thank you. I agree. I was really confident before I
had any work done. Like it wasn't like I needed
something Like I hated my nose, but I made it work,
and I yeah, if I can't get a nose rob
it's okay. But like I still had confidence, And I
think that's like such a huge thing that like girls
need to really be happy with themselves before they get
plastic surgery or any work done, because like, I think
(21:28):
insecurity comes from like really like deep rooted within you,
and like a nose job isn't going to fix all
your insecurities and it's not going to like like it'll
definitely like add confidence, but I think you need to
really be confident and like love yourself before getting any
work done. And that's like what so many people don't realize.
So at least I was like, I actually love that.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I love everything that you just said.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I just because I didn't realize.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
It's it's true. If you have deep rooted issues and
you're insecure with yourself and you think that fixing these
changes are going to fix your insecurities, they're not.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, because everyone always comments like you need to respect
yourself and be happy with yourself. I'm like, I've been
happy with myself. I just finally am able to like
get a noose job. Like there's nothing wrong with like
wan wanting a little enhancement.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I feel like everyone needs to tell everyone's happy. Life
is life, and if you are a real fan, please
just support us in a loving way. We love the
supportive fans. And if you don't have anything nice to comment,
just don't comment it at all.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Or like write it like on a piece of paper
and burn it. Ors on me, Like, why do you
have to do in my comments?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Oh, it's come to the point where I literally filter
the words oh sameilters, Like it's so sad. But then
the haters also are the people who follow you, And
then I'm like, why if you hate me so much?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
It's all jealousy like and you know that, but it's
hard to remember that when you read something you're like,
oh my.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
God, Like it's just it gets you know, And I
have never been one to really dwell on the comment
section or make it affect me, but it after you're
reading it time after time again and you're really sitting there.
You want people to go to your content and enjoy it,
watch it, love it, comment on it, ask you questions,
(23:29):
but to go to your comment section and get that
feedback from your content, it's just it's honestly discouraging. It's
a little disappointing. Yes, exactly, it really does. It really does.
So Yeah, bravo fans love love you love hate relationship.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, Like I love the ones that are super supportive,
but I have only seen a few of those, the
main ones I get are like, you're so mean to
your sister. Treat your family better. I'm like, you guys
like this happens to just be on camera, like we're
a normal, like we fight.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I don't understand, but then they should also they want reality.
This is reality, this is life. If you're telling me
that you don't fight with your sister or brother, you're crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Oh literally, And like there was a lot of fights
that me and Lola had that didn't make it on
the show, But what made it on the show was
us after a fight. So I was in a bad
mood and then I didn't want to talk to her.
And then that's when people are like, you're so mean
to your sister, Like if only you knew what was
said before the cameras were wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I know, there's like eighty percent that's really shown you
don't know the other. Yeah, I mean there's twenty percent
that's really shown you don't know the other eighty literally
one hundred percent. In twenty twenty one, when you were
(24:56):
only seventeen, you publicly said you were moving out of
your mom's house to move in with your dad, and
that your mom's house was a hell house, Why did
you want to move out? And what has changed since then?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I mean, I've like had a really difficult relationship with
both my parents, but it was I was living at
my mom's obviously with Aaron and Lola, and like we
were all fighting constantly. I did not get along with anyone.
I kind of felt like the odd one out, and
being the older sister, the blame was like always thrown
(25:32):
on me for everything. Yea, And yeah, it was just
I was really struggling mentally in that house. And there's
obviously a lot that I wish I could say, get
in trouble, but yeah, I just felt like at the time,
me and my dad were on good terms and it
was a more peaceful environment, so I wanted to try
(25:58):
out living there and like it was great till it
wasn't and then I figured it out And yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
But yeah, do you regret making that so public?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yes, but only because it reached the wrong side of TikTok.
Like there's the right side of TikTok and the wrong
side of TikTok. I feel like if you're like like
sometimes we'll post something, I'll literally say like I hope
this reaches the right audience. So I think the wrong
people saw that and like took it and ran with it.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, no, one like it's rough. No, no, but it's
rough if it does reach the wrong side, because then
you just get ripped to shreds.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah. I was expecting girls my age and be like,
oh my god, like I'm in the same boat as you,
Like I also don't get along with my mom, like
this is this but no, people were like, how dare
you have? It's so nice. I'm like, you guys have
no idea, Like what goes on behind closed doors is crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Of course, and everyone can judge, but especially being a child,
I feel like every child has gone through that period
where you want to move out. There has been multiple
times as a child, I've packed my bags and I've
been like, I'm leaving, I'm leaving, I'm never coming back,
(27:12):
and it's just frustration. It's when you're young. I think
it's a mix of wanting to leave, immaturity, trying to
escape the feelings. It's a bunch of things. And you
and your mom obviously made it back to have a
great relationship.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Now, yeah we didn't speak for almost a year, Oh wow,
and great.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
We're just and how was that time when you were
with your dad. Was that okay?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, obviously he loved that I was like taking his
side now after all these years, and like he was
the favorite parent. But I think, I mean, I don't know.
I kind of was just able to like find not
obviously not fully I was so young, but like start
to find myself and like have my own space in
(28:00):
my own environment, and like he keeps to himself, I
kept myself Like it was like nice until I was
just like really lonely and like I was like, this
is not working. My mom's was not working. So I
lived with a friend for a little bit, and then
I went back to my mom's, okay, right after I
turned eighteen, and I just was like I cannot do this.
(28:21):
So that's when I started holding fans. And I got
an apartment a month later and been living in an
apartment ever since. Not the same one, but yeah, I
haven't gone back.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Wow. So then that was Yeah, so you started only
fans when you were eighteen. That was in twenty twenty two.
Is this kind of the main reason why you started?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Oh? Yeah, I fully started just because I didn't know
what to do, because I was just so unhappy and
like I didn't have like every living situation I was
in was very chaotic, and I didn't have like a home.
I guess I didn't feel like a home. And I
was like, I just want my own space so bad,
like I'm tired of X, Y and Z. So I
(29:04):
was like, I don't know what job in this economy
will give me an apartment. So and I didn't get
any help from my parents, Like if I did, I
would have probably gotten a regular job. But I was
fully I've been fully on my own, like financially since
I was eighteen, So I kind of was like, I
need to be a smart business woman. Here take it
(29:26):
to my advantage. I have parents in the public eye,
like people already know my name, so might as well
do only fans because I know it's doing really well
right now for other people. And it did, and it
really got me on my feet, and like it's affected
a lot of opportunities because it's not the classiest look,
but I'm still really grateful for it, and it's like
(29:48):
such it's given me a lot of confidence for.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Sure when that all started, because like you said, each
living situation was kind of toxic and causing a lot
of turmoil to you, did you feel like that was
your only option because you're like, where your parent's not
going to give you the financial funds to move out?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, I felt like it was. It really was my
only option if.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I like, it was like, if you don't want to
live with us, we're not going to give you the funds,
so figure it out or else you're like on your own. Basically, Yeah,
that's exactly what it was. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
People always comment like it's crazy you how to do this,
like you have daddy's money. I'm like, I really where
I wish? Yeah, it would be nice.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
But yeah, so then from there it kind of popped off.
But then at one point, I know, you referred to
yourself as a sex worker. Why why did you do that?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, Well because like people always like view sex work
as like you're going like an escort or like an
actual like sex worker. But I made sure I like
did my research and like looked up every definitely everything
to make sure I wasn't saying anything wrong. But technically,
like selling explicit images of yourself online two men is
(31:10):
considered sex work, and that's why I was just saying that.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
We were just trying to cover proper terminology. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I literally was just like well when I was trying
to hook the audience to like be like.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Oh that definitely oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
But just in the wrong way because I didn't realize,
like obviously, like this generation is more familiar with like
those terms with the older generation. Here's sex worker. They're like, what, like, yeah,
sex worker? Like no, I just do only fans like
I've been doing only fans, like I just this is
my first time saying it what it is. So yeah,
(31:47):
I got my mom flipped her with me when I
said that, and I like screenshot the definition on Google
and send it to her and I'm like, it's not
what I meant.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I prom And then I know one thing we say
it gets twisted and word doomed. Yeah, but what kind
of content do you post on OnlyFans? Do you have
a boundary to what you post? Is there anything that
you won't go past?
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah, I'll never do like I've never ever ever done
a sex tape. I've never done like, I don't know.
I just keep it very classy while still giving people
their their money's worth, if that makes sense. But nudity, yeah,
there is nudity, but not full full, full nudity, got it? Okay,
(32:35):
I'm like, I don't know. They're like I feel like
I give people their money's worth, and like I'll tell
them like these are my boundaries. Like people will request
the craziest things and I'm like, just.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Get requested feet picks.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Oh I sell my feet pigs.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
That's like that's your easy money.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And people love my feet. I honestly do have really
cute feets. I don't blame them, but they request some
weird things like put in the toilet.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I'm like, why does that all have the weirdest bet?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Why did that party on my foot going into a toilet?
Like that's weird, but okay, Like yeah, I know. But
the other stuff that they've requested where I'm like that
it's just really crossing the line. I'm like, there's other
girls who will give you that. No judge, it's just
not my thing.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
And is there like something they sign where your stuff
cannot go public?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
No, there's not. I have like a disclaimer on my
page and it has my like watermark on it, like
OnlyFans dot com sash sa machine is plastered on every
single piece of content that I sell on there. But
people will still screenshot it and my stuff, and like
I have a whole team that does take down leak stuff,
(33:47):
but there's so much where it's like and like a
lot of my lead stuff was when I was like
literally just eighteen. I'm like, oh my god, like I
look so weird and like, eugh, I was so young.
I wish I didn't have to start it when I
was that young. But yeah, it's it's hard, Like people
get their stuff league all the time, so it's kind
of just something you have to pretend you don't see.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, no, for sure. Yeah, I mean I know people
make crazy money. How much money have you made on OnlyFans?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
This is one thing I literally like never talk about,
but I will say I'm doing pretty well, and like
I'm really happy with the money that I'm making. Obviously,
like months fluctuate and like summertime or holidays or like
when you have like something to dress up where those
months do really well. But then the months where it's
just kind of boring and like there's nothing looking forward to,
(34:38):
those months aren't that good. But like I would say, overall,
I mean I've been doing it for a while, so
it's been my mainstream of income for eighteen nineteen twenty Wait,
how many three years?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
For four years? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Really wait almost four years? Is that really eighteen nineteen
nineteen twenty three years?
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Three years?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:59):
But still well yeah, But then, like you said from there,
because OnlyFans is your main source of income, and because
it is a you know, it is a very revealing
platform that you're on, you said that has affected you
with other job opportunities. Does that kind of affect you
with brand deals or like what, like what what does
it affect you with?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah? So I've never done a brand deal. I would
love to. I was actually supposed to go to Coachella
with a brand and then they decided not to. I
think it's because I do only fans. I wasn't really
given a reason. I cannot get signed to a modeling
agency for the life of me. And like, okay, I'm
not Like I hate saying that because I sound so cocky,
(35:42):
like why can't I model?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
But like I really like no, But you're also trying
to bring in other opportunities of income for yourself and
it's kind of hard.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeah, And like I don't even want a model for
the income. I just love the creative side of it.
In the fashion and like meeting cool people, and like
I I've met with a good amount of agencies and
they'll just say like, oh, it's not the right time,
or like we think you're beautiful, but not the right fit,
and like they say it without saying it where I
know it's because of OnlyFans, and like I've seen it
(36:15):
with like different people that I've like dated, and just
everyone kind.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Of has this like how is that. I really wanted
to ask you about that aspect of it too, but
we'll finish the job opportunity aspect of it first.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah, it's I don't know, It's just I've.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Kind of seen TikTok is like your other way of
making income.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
To No, I don't make anything from TikTok. I don't
really have like I have. I don't even have like
a good following on TikTok. I just have like random
followers from like a video that'll do really well. But
I yeah, I only really make money off of OnlyFans.
It's definitely been hard. I've just kind of gotten used
(36:55):
to it and that people will just have this idea
of me that I'm this like OnlyFans girl, and like
whatever they think. But yeah, it's definitely like the annoying.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Part of it for sure. And then yeah, with relationships,
how does that go? Do you feel like it's not
like do you feel like going into a relationship you
really have to have your guard up because you're nervous
if this person is really in this relationship for you.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, the last guy I dated, I had my guard up,
but not enough. And I think we only dated for
six months, so clearly it didn't really go that well.
But I it became very very clear what his intentions
were and it was like a learning lesson for me
(37:44):
that I need to be more careful, like he put
on like a facade and whatever. We don't have to
get in the whole thing, because that's a whole other story.
But it became pretty clear what his intentions were and
I got out of that. And then obviously, like if
I'm just like meeting people, like I'll notice different guys.
They'll just like think I'm this crazy girl. I don't
(38:09):
even know because I don't want to disrespect people. They
literally will think I'm I will do whatever, and like
I'm so easy, and like.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, that almost like you're a sex magnet. You're very easy.
You'll screw them on the first night, all these all
these like a stereotype.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah, I'm like the complete opposite of that. And it's
really funny when guys find out that I'm not going
to sleep with them on the first date or the
second or third or fourth, Like I literally will not
sleep with someone unless I am labeled as their girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
And well, because you probably also think in your head,
I don't want them to think that they're getting something
that they're not.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Also sure, yeah, like there has been times where like
I won't give them everything they want, but I'll like,
I don't know how to word this without being like.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Too, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yeah, but there are times they make it.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
You'll maybe go to like base one or base two,
but you're not gonna give them a home run.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah, yes exactly, But then it's clear that's only what
they want, and that's not really what I want.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
So I said base one or base two, I meant
you'll go to first base or second base, but not
give them home Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Like it's just funny because people really don't expect that
of me, And like.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
It's honestly, that's so good that you do that, because
that just shows your respect for yourself because at the
end of the day, you're you also have to every well,
the guys that you're with, they're gonna love like love
you for you, love your personality, and love yourself for you.
At the end of the day, this is an income
(39:43):
and you want that respect when you're going into a
relationship as well.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, I really try and tell people like it sounds funny,
but this is literally my job and I've been doing
this for a while now. I have boundaries. I have
self respect, like get like if you think I'm about
to like do some crazy stuff or like you're talking
the wrong girl.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
No, I totally get it. But then your mom joined OnlyFans,
so obviously your mom was supportive of it. I know
your dad wasn't. But when you're now, obviously it's been
three years, I'm sure they've you know, your dad's got
over it.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
But my dad was not supportive until he saw I
actually started making income. And like I remember a phone
call I overheard. It was when I was living back
at my mom's right when I started only Fans and
he found out that I started when and he was
like on speaker saying, I can't wait to tell Sam
that I was right when she like she thinks she's
(40:44):
gonna make all this money and get a nice car
and apartment and move out, and this is in this
like I can't wait to tell her that she's wrong,
and I'm like, okay, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
You're just waiting to prove them wrong.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah, so I grooped them wrong. And then all of
a sudden, he like turned new leaf and was like,
I'm really happy for doing this, like it's good for you,
and I'm like thanks.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah. And then when your mom joined only fans and
I know your stepdad, Aaron, was he okay with it?
How was this whole transition of that.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
It's really funny. I never even talked to Erin about
my mom and fans, but he, I know, like helps
her with all her contents, so he's very sweet.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
It's so funny.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
I know.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
You need to find a guy like Aaron. Do you
do you love your stepdad?
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I mean we're not even that close, so it's hard
to like, like we don't ever hang out, we never talk,
so yeah, I feel like that's a stretch, Okay, but
if he makes her happy, then.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, my mom she when I started only fans, she
didn't really know what it was, and I was like
trying to explain to her, like I wouldn't be doing
anything crazy because I really just started off with doing
like lingerie photos. It was very very new to it.
I was also very young, and I knew I was young,
so I didn't want to do anything.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Comfortability level probably was like not nowhere near.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, Like I had very very very strict boundaries. And
she was like, I don't agree with it, but I'll
still support you. And we've never gotten an argument about it.
And then she saw that I was doing really well
and she was like, I want to start only fans,
so she did, and I was so mad at her
at first.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Fore you did you feel like this was like this
is my thing?
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah? Was like I also have been only known as
like Denise Richards or Charlie Sheen's daughter, so I was
so excited. I remember I had my first article come
out where it was just Sammy Sheen and it wasn't
like Charlie Sheen's daughter.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yeah. Wait, that's so funny. I feel like I deal
with that so much too. Yeah. Teresa Judice's daughter Gea
said this, and you know that's why even with this podcast,
and I have you know, things in the works right
now for twenty twenty five that I'm super excited about.
But even me, I'm you know, trying to get into
(43:02):
my own path. As much as I love my family
and I will always back them up, support them, have
them right behind me, x y Z, I'm also trying
to step into my own as well. So I totally understand.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah, it's really really hard making a name for yourself
when you already have parents who are in the public eye.
So I was that's why I was like so excited
to also start this and like have people know me
for me. And then my mom started one and I
was like, thank you for taking my spotlight. I was
so upset and a lot of my subscribers because they
(43:35):
all subscribed me because they're like, oh, this is like
the next best thing of like Denise Richards, because like
they're all like obsessed with her, like wow things era
and like all that stuff. Yeah, so when she started it,
oh my god, they flooded to her page from my
page and I lost so many subscribers at first.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Oh wow. Yeah, so that probably was that probably pissed
you off even more.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Yeah, I was just like mad that she couldn't really
let me have my moment at first, But now it's
kind of obviously we have our own fan bases now
and like we have different content, like so we have
different fan bases that prefer one or the other. But
at first it was like crazy, No.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
For sure, I'm sure. So I'm happy that that all
died down. I'm happy you both now have your moment
and everyone knows Sammy She and as Sammy She, and
she has her own platform with also your mom going
(44:41):
back on Bravo, and now you guys having your own show.
I know that your relationship with your parents have been
mushy washy, but I know you said in recent episodes
you haven't talked to your dad in five months and
that you wouldn't even want to get lunch with him.
I know you said you lived with him and all
of this. It has it turned since then, or do
you still not speak to him?
Speaker 2 (45:01):
So we haven't we haven't spoken on the phone in
almost a year, and then we haven't texted in a
little over six months. I think it we were like fine,
he was working on his own stuff and like pretty busy,
so we weren't even that close anymore. But then I
(45:22):
really got frustrated because it was when I got my
nose surgery. I was really mad that he couldn't even
like call me or anything to see if I made
it out of surgery, which even though it's not like
a it is a big surgery, but it's not like
I was.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Like life or death. Yeah yeah, but still it's still
the support of it. Yeah, you're still going under anesthesia.
The dog the anesthesiologist could give you a little too
much and something to talk to the worst, like one
hundred percent. You never know what's gonna happen when you
go under.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I was like pretty upset that he didn't call me
after surgery or he texted me twenty four hours later
being like, oh, did you make it out okay? And
I'm like I could have been dead by now, but yeah,
I'm fine. Yeah. And then we kind of got into
it and he was like saying stuff, being like, oh,
it's not like you got a new kidney, You're fine,
and I was like, okay, thank you for making his words,
(46:13):
and it really just like tumbled into something really big
where I had to really distance myself and then yeah,
we he got I actually had to block him because
he was sending me some crazy stuff and then he.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Still deal with addiction problems.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
He's been sober for the past like I want to say,
like five years now, but I obviously haven't spoken to
him in a while, so I can't speak. I have
no idea if he's still sober. I honestly hope the
stuff he was sending me was because he wasn't sober,
because I'm like that would at least make it a
(46:55):
little better. But yeah, so I've had him blocked for
a minute now. I had to block his email as well,
and then he actually got a new number on Christmas
to text me other other crazy stuff where I had
to block that number. So I'm like, fully, we're done.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, so it hasn't. It kind of went into like
a full but it didn't stop.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah. I got pretty bad to where I had to
like put a stop to it and tell him, like,
do not contact me ever again because this is crazy.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
So yeah, yeah it's And.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
People are like that's crazy, like you'll take his money
but you won't speak to him. I'm like, you guys
make my blood boil. You have no idea? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
so we are not speaking, but him and Lola are
really close and like he always goes over to hers
and like we'll say hi to her.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Does that, ever, you know, make you feel a certain
type of way.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah, it is a little frustrating that they have.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Is Lola ever try to help you out and defend
you in that aspect with your dad?
Speaker 2 (48:00):
No, not really. I think she also just like hates
getting involved in like arguments and stuff, and she'll like
tell me, like, well, you only have one dad, like
you should text him, like of course, you have no
idea the stuff he was sending me. So it is
a little frustrating that he will like bring her gifts
and like go say hi to her, and it's just
(48:22):
like I don't know, but I think as Lola has
a harder time like putting her foot down, and like
she's more she's very like okay, like that's fine, like yeah,
it's okay, sorry, And I'm more like I absolutely not,
like I don't have any disrespect. So we're very different
and nonsense. But I don't blame her because sometimes it
is a little easier just kind of not dealing with it.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
One hundred percent. I mean, I get it. I'm kind
of like you in a sense, but then I'm also like,
h do I want to deal with this right now?
I don't know, but I fully understand when I when
I am pushed to my breaking point. I really I'm
just like you.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Yeah, well, it gets to a point where you're like,
if you have like respect for yourself and like you
kind of just need to know when it's time to
put it unto certain things.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Yeah. Well, I'm really happy that everything in your life
has been on track for the most part. I'm sorry
that you have to deal with these issues with your dad,
but hopefully, you know, hopefully one day you guys can
make amends and move forward. But we'll see.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
I'm sorry what you're going through too. I'm so proud
of you for your podcast. That's such a big deal
and like everything you've been like marketing it so it's
so cute and like I love it.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Thank you so much of course, and you know, with
only fans, I hope you I wish you the most success,
and I hope that you do find somebody one day
who respects you for you, because you really are such
a beautiful person. And this has been such a fun interview.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
You're so sweet. Thank you so much and this was
my first podcast by myself.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Is it? Did I make you feel comfortable?
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Oh my gosh, so sweet.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Listen, we've both been through a lot. I feel like
everybody has their story, everybody has their side, everyone has
their version. But no matter what, this is also what
has made us the women we are today. You could
tell that you are very mature for your age, and
I know, I like we've had to grow up super fast.
(50:28):
When you deal with a lot of things when you're young,
it forces you to grow up quickly and it's but
it makes you listen. It could affect you for the
worst and we could have both turned to probably pretty
ugly things from what we've been through. Or you make
the best out of it and you capitalize on our platforms.
You try to be your best self and put your
(50:52):
best foot forward and show the fans who you are.
So I think we've done a pretty good job.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
I think so too.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
But Sammy Sheen, thank you so much for being on
Casual Chaos. This was such a fun episode and we
are definitely going to hang out soon.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Oh yeah, I can't wait. And thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Oh, no problem.
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