June 9, 2025 • 40 mins
Bev, Mack and David sit down to recap, revisit and rehash season 1/episode 9 of 7th Heaven, “See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil.” They dive into the heavy-handed metaphors, the PSA-worthy dialogue, the always-entertaining way 7th Heaven tries to juggle five plot lines at once, AND MORE!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, Mac, do you think you can do the intro?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I find out I think I can.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
We start with you, so let's kick start this off.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
So we are back with another episode of Catching Up
with the can Bins, and this is a beat hash
of episode nine, which is no Evil speak no evil.
I don't think it mentions hearing evil, but anyways, I digress. Ruthie,
We've got you, got to you. I'm Mackenzie Rosman, but
(00:33):
everybody knows that, just kidding.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I'm David Gallagher and I'm Beverly Mitchell. And now let's
get into.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
The nobody knows that anyways. Uh yeah, So Ruthie has
the chicken pox in this episode and it opens up
with her playing a really solitary actually who he's there,
but she's playing Shoots and Ladders, I believe, or the
Candy Land, which are I think solid games by the
way I played them, though as an adult David, it's
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not interesting as it was when I was a kid.
Sadly are they.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
In David's game collections?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Not for like age three and up to forever. It's
kind of like caps Out at twelve, you'll be bored.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Candy Lands like the worst game all you do is
go from one side of the board.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Or the other. It was awesome. I remember it being
so awesome. Okay, it's definitely so.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
The answer my question to you is.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
When I mean shoots and ladders is more fun than
candy Lands? You know, David's the game obviously to dynamic.
You know, board movement, shoots.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Not as dynamic as War.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You know the game War War What you mean Stratigo, No, the.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Card game War where it's like basically if you can
talk about oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, let's startle back bringing buns in this episode?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Why are you sitting in your room candy Lands?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Isolated? And I have the chicken pox and Simon doesn't
want me to breathe on him.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Fair enough and I get it anyways, right, but we don't.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
You're just yeah, spoilers. Let's remember slowly, we were just
actually in the episode. We gave up on the intro.
We're now in.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
We're in. It happen perfect. I'll do better if you
keep letting me try it.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
No, you're doing great. I said we're doing I wasn't
even talking about that. I'm saying we've by passed the intro.
You did a great job. Now we are into the
actual episode, so you don't want to breathe on you.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Annie and mad are listening to some rock song when
they're driving to.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Just skipping ahead, I think again. We're just going to
the like fast forward.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Mary wants to get to.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Okay, I'm just going through the major no, no, no, hold on, okay,
we have to restart.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
You have landed on catching up at the Camdens and
I am a Kenzie Rossman.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I'm not really Mitchell, and I'm David Gallagher and we
are rehashing episode nine. Ye speak no evils.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
You know the monkey thing?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Mm hmm it is, And.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
We start off with one crazy little monkey playing board games.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Chicken pox, myself isolated, they quarantined. Who quarantines a five
year old honestly with the chicken pox?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Everyone, that's yeah, that's the first thing.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Okay, well, yeah, she's playing a board game by herself.
Well who he was there? Allegedly he had she had
to do all of his moves for him.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
So that's so you're playing the game by yourself with
the chicken pox. We could get there's a knock at
the door. This is Simon pleading, can you please hold
your breath right so that I can get my stuff.
Simon does not have the chicken pox and is desperately
trying to go about his life in peace without the
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chicken pox.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And he has that babe that he's trying to impress.
So that's why he doesn't want to get the chicken pox,
because he doesn't want to, like, you know, that would
count as like his first He doesn't never mind, he
doesn't want to have a girl on his crush. I
do you know infectious disease quite so young in its
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dating lives?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I do love that there. Ruthie does have one great
line though, too, saying like when you actually say, well,
why don't you, why don't you hold your breath? Because
he's sitting here blaming you, you know, blaming you for breathing,
and you're like, well, you don't want to get infected admitted.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Right?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Too soon?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
So moving away from the chicken pox, we get into
early on in the episode the kind of the a
storyline of the episode, which is Matt and Annie are
in the car at night, driving down the road.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Where are they going? Do we know? Do we remember?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I think they were just they were supposed to be
like going home. But it was also very funny because
I was like, let Up was a pretty safe place.
But you know what some of those dark streets.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, we got to deal with these issues, man, these issues.
These kitchen table is.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
No, there was a car malfunction and one of the
wires came loose. So Annie has to fix the wires
right in that super old station.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
You know that was a class a really huge drug
problem and that could be why that they got mugged
in Gonoak.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I don't think because of the pot he was probably
I think.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
We're mixing episodes right now, but.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
In just in general, there's there's there's a drug problem,
a lot of teen pregnancies in Glen Oak and so trucks.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
The radio goes on the fritz and they Annie says,
pull it over so I can check it's probably a
loose wire. Because Annie is our jack of all trades,
kind of fix it all. They constantly are showing her
doing the plumbing and doing electrical and you know, doing
all sorts of.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Cracks rebuilding car and just because as you do when
you're a cool mom, like.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Right, So so she's to slide under the radio under
the dash and and when she does that, as they're
sitting on the side of the road in the dark,
a man runs up to the window with a gun
and Uh says.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Give me, give me your purse, your money.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
And all your money, give me everything, any of the stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And Annie says, this will be the easiest robbery ever
and just hands it all over and they then take
But there's a gun. There's because there's a gun.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Is a gun.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
There's a gun not to his head, just to just
pointed in their direction. Generally speaking, it staged is still
a dangerous image. But uh but it wasn't too It
wasn't like to the you know, it wasn't it wasn't
that right, We weren't that so uh So Matt freezes,
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he can't move, He doesn't know what to do. He
doesn't respond, and Annie reaches over, gets his wallet out
of his pocket and gives the stuff, and he takes
her wedding ring forcefully. She she makes a noise like
it hurts. He rips her ring off her hand, and
then he uh takes their car keys so they can't
go anywhere, and he runs off into the darkness.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
And so they've been mugged at gunpoint and.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Thou seems like she's been mugged before. No.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I think it's like when you're in that of emergency
situation and somebody freezes, like I also think like the
motherly instinct is to like handle it right.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah, I think it's just it was a good I
think the point of it for the two of them
is to just demonstrate like different the right and wrong response,
so to like the safe response to this situation, which is, hey,
no problem, take what you want. I I've my life
is more important than anything I'm carrying.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Not to fight back.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
When someone pulls a gun on you, to just submit,
give them what they want, let them go, let them go.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Well, and so Annie does that, Matt does the thing that.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
You you want to avoid doing that you that you
shouldn't do, which is to freeze up and not be
responsive to the person making demands of you with the gun.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
So and and then and then that kind of sets
up like the you know, the the the arc, the
big main a storyline arc of the episode, which is.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Dealing with.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Being mugged, having having this crime kind of to you
the thing you never think will happen to you when
it does happen to you, and then how you process
that event, that trauma and the different ways that that
that that is processed by different people, which is great.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Because, like we've said before, it's like you get the
perspective from uh, Matt, and then you get the perspective
from Annie and Matt's Matt's kind of in this like
frozen stuck kind of space where he's having a hard
time kind of like going through it, and Annie's kind
of like, no, no, no, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine,
I'm fine, I'm okay, I'm fine, I'm fine. It out
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and it's and it's the like to the point where
like you're fine until you're not fine, and when you're
not fine, you're really really not fine. Yeah, and when
like that kind of like breakdown and all the while,
you know, she's still trying to parent and she's still
trying to like be there for everyone else, so she's
kind of putting her herself, her needs and what had
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happened to her last and wanting to deal with it.
It kind of like goes about her way. So that's
why we've got like the other storylines where she's taking
care of the kids with like chicken pox, and then uh, Lucy,
what was all.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Those areas to avoid dealing with her own emotions about it?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Absolutely, but then to lighten, like as seventh even does,
we lighten the episode with other storylines, and you know,
our good friend Jimmy Moon decides that he wants to
break up with Lucy because they're both running for class
president and asks her dad.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
This starts.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I was trying to bypass that I was like screwing
over It starts with the greatest boyfriend girlfriend fight.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Of the show so far, which is you guys tiffing
at each other over running for class president in front
of the school.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I forget exactly this is so good.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
We're going to get into it after the break so
I can convince you not to talk about it. So
let's just do it yet, I don't want to talk
about Lucy's uh outfit of choice? What's trying to run
for a class president? Because but yeah, this weird like
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which wasn't all that bad. I think it was that bad,
but like it was made to be really that bad.
But I definitely felt a little slighted by Mary's comments
saying like, you know, it's not Eric says, like you know,
it's not about what you look like, it's what you say.
And then Mary says, I've heard the speech, let her
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wear the dress.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
You know, I think it's actually fire burned there.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, you know, I think that's such a sisterly like things,
so supportive and so loving and kind. But yes, there
is a a very heated that's a joke because there's
no heat behind Jimmy Moon and Lucy passion.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
There, yes, very very muted passion.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
It's called monotone passion. It's uh, sighting as a white
piece of paper. So yeah, that's his Lucy. Lucy and
Jimmy Moon are running for class president and we have, yes,
we have a tiff, a tip a tiff.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
It's cute. It's just silly and cute. But I did
it made me.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Laugh, and Lucy, I'm pretty sure I huffed because guys
kind of.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Like, fine, yeah, you to and then you both like
march off in different directions, and I was just like as.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
One does in middle school relationships as boyfriend and girlfriend,
because also what does that mean? And then and then
he just to break up with her.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Middle school relationships, you know, like like a two weeks
it's like a long span.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Is no Jimmy Moon and they're going for the long
haul man until he decides to break up with her,
using her father to break up with her.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Jimmy and I'm looking for an out, yeah, and well
so and I don't know I need to grun to
the defense of Jimmy Moon.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
No, but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I guess to put it in the context of the
show or what the show is trying to do is
to is to is to show how like Jimmy Moons
a young kid, he doesn't know how to This is
his first breakup. He doesn't know what to do, and
so he starts off by making bad calls like oh,
I'll have other I'll have someone else do it for me.
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He doesn't man up to like to break up with Lucy?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Was that easy? You're like, you know, I don't feel
like breaking up with him? Will you do it for me?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
He looks for an out and easy out, which which
is you know, it's it's cute and it's in its own.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And honestly, I don't know what's worse having a guy
break up with you or having your dad break up
with you. For a guy, I.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Know what's worse.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
All of it.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I think it's easy. Which one of those is worse?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Did the dad?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Having your own dad do it for him is worse?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, having your dad be in on the breakup, Like
I realize there's a lot of trauma that Lucy went through,
Like no wonder she made such poor choices later.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
We didn't go through with the plans.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I don't think he knows he considered it.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I don't know. He obviously comes in.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
He know he did because he comes in and Lucy's
like said, and then Annie's mad. It's just sad mad.
Annie's mad at Eric for like having had the talk
with Lucy, and then she makes Jimmy Moon and Lucy
talk and then all of a sudden, like magical, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
You guys each other out of breaking up with each other.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, because we realize that our relationship is so much
more important than running for class president. While we're definitely
planting bulbs, you guys are.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Gonna You're like, I'm not going to run for class
president anymore. He's like, I'm not going to run for
class president anymore. You're worship It's really sweet.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
It's and I'm totally monotone.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
It's sweet in a in a a silly I don't know,
kind of boring.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
It wasn't sweet, it wasn't it wasn't my best storyline.
But that's okay. So moving on, Let's go to Mary,
who wants to get a tattoo.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Very storyline is that she is you know, that she's
like cool on the basketball team. We established he's a
good player already previously, but.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
We also find this out because she's basically Lucy's trying
to out her as sisters do. We're like, Mary tells
something for Lucy, and then Lucy's like, Mary.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Mary was a tattoo.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
You guys are savages.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Like, right from the beginning of the show, you guys
constantly backstab each other.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I'm pretty sure it's I'm doing most of it all
the time, but I'm pretty sure I start most of it.
And then Mary, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I mean, you know, when a war has been going
on that long, who's gonna remember who started.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
It's awful, it's messy, no one wins.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I definitely throw Mary under the bus for that damn tattoo.
And I was like, but.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Then Mary tries to like she tries to like justify.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
It and like and and reason for it, and it
just fails miserably with everybody, and she is warned not
to play the parents against each other, which she tries anyway.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
As every kid does.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I know and uh, and so that just it just
is a it's a non starter.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
She can't get the tattoo.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
And then as the as the show progresses, we see
the peer pressure kind of build. We see the other
teammates were like, hey, see it the tattoo parlot.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And then I'll be there, and then she I do,
I do love the reveal with the scrunchy socks and
there is a tattoo.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
That's right, and there is. In the end, we we
see her playing basketball. We get that great insert shot
of her wildcat ankle tat.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
With her scrunchy socks.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
With the scrunchy socks obviously obviously the first thing I noticed, scrunchy.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Sox and uh.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
And then it's you know, it's it's revealed that spoiler
she got a custom uh sticker tattoo.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
It looks really real where she found it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
But first Eric and Annie are very disappointed and very
upset and very mad because she went against their wishes.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yes, they were.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
And I didn't really do anything.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
It's just like, ah, I fooled you as well, come
right off.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
And then they were like, but and I'm a teenager
and I'm smarter than my parents.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Yeah, she exports everybody because she makes it clear that
you know, she got it for team spirit and every
fools everybody.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
So Mary wins again.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Mary wins. Wait, but let's dive. So we explore.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
But throughout this episode, the real important stuff, the a
storyline is the fallout from the robbery. So uh, maybe
we want to get into that a little more when
right after the right after this break, okay, so we're back,
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we're talking about the fallout from the mugging that happened
to Annie end Matt real.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Quick, because we keep saying a storyline and I know
that's like super we're very familiar with that, but like,
will you from the film critics side of it give
us the breakdown of like sometimes how these episodes are
set up. So we've got the ABC just because just
you know, for our listeners, just a quick overcap.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
As you guys are well aware, on Seventh Heaven, the
episodes are typically themed around something and all of the
different characters. Many stories will all tend to like come
around and join up around a common theme.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
But and you could usually tell who it is pretty easily.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
But there's usually one family member whose storyline is kind
of the centerpiece of the episode, and so that's like
the backbone of the episode, and we call that the
A storyline. So when you're doing multiple storyline threads, you
have your A storyline and then everything else is kind
of there isn't like ABC, you don't kind of rank
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order them, but everything you'll have your A storyline, and
then the B storylines will be supporting the A storyline.
Typically on other show formats that are more sprawling, then
you have like an ABC storyline that all kind of
go off in their own directions. And that's just to
keep track of different threads. But on our show, we
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always tend to coalesce around one theme and try to
stick a landing together at the end.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Right, it all is supposed to tie up at the end.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
So when we talk about the A storyline in this case,
that would be the mugging that happens. So that's the
big kind of shocking moment in the beginning that gives
you your cliffhanger into the episode. And that's the thing
that kind of hangs over all the characters. We all
hear about it, we all have our opinions about it,
and we're most interested in how those characters are dealing
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with that, which is Madden the event, Matt Nanny so
and again they the two of them deal with the
mugging itself in two different ways. Matt freezes up and
he responds selflessly and and uh and quickly to give
the mugger what he wants to get him away for
their safety.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
And that's great that.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I'm just as you're saying that, also, like what would
you say in that situation?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Are you a panicker? Are you someone who's like really
good at dealing with like an emergency situation, or are you,
like I'm just interested in, like who you guys are
as I'm not a pancker.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I'm pretty good at the emergency.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, I'm pretty good at the emergency situation. I'm the
what would you get?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
My thoughts are clearer and more organized in that.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, Hi, adrenaline is like it actually keeps you more centered.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I like to think I can focus in under pressure.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah that's good. So if anything bad happens, all three
of us are going to like rock it and kill it.
I mean.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
To take us.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I'm just saying I'm in charge.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
We're all dead.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
The three stooges all run to solve the problem, and.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I would be laughing because I guarantee all three of
us would solve something uniquely different. Our strategies would all
be very different in that Smario, probably, I'm sorry. I
I didn't mean to take us off, but I just.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Was circling back. V. Come on, BEV, We're circling back.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
So we uh So, as we go through the episode
with Annie and Matt, we see I think the so
Annie at first is just like I'm fine, I'm fine,
and and on the surface, she really does seem fine.
She's taking care of the kids, she's she's going through
the routine stuff. She you could tell that she's preoccupied,
but she does seem to keep it together, and you're
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really not sure how that's going to shake out. Matt
early on has to take the kids to school. He says,
I'm gonna go get in the car, and he sits
back in the car, and when everyone tries to go
to school, he can't move again. So as soon as
he puts himself back in that position he was in
when it happened. He freezes up again, and so his
trauma is more immediate. It's harder for him to deal with,
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and it's clear that he needs more help right away
to kind of get back to his normal self. So
and while that's happening, Annie is so busy trying to
be her normal self and make sure everything is fine
that she's effectively hiding how she truly feels about what
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has happened. They get a call from the police station
saying that they have suspects. So we've established that the
police are kind of like looking for the guy early on,
but then later they get a call that they have suspects.
They speak directly to Annie. She says, yeah, sure, we'll
be right there, hangs up and says nothing.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Do you think that this is why Annie and Eric
don't want Mary to get a tattoo, because you know,
the tattoo is how she recognizes the suspect who robbed them.
Maybe she's like a Mary, you know that tattoo could
give you away if you commit a crime.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I think that there was there there was a no
tattoo rule that was established at the beginning, but I
do think that there is also this kind of idea
that if you have a tattoo like you could be
like a criminal. I think I'm joking, I know, but
I do think that there is a connection with the test.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
There is if you're asking me if the show is
suggesting to its audience that tattoos are things they lead
you to the put on their body by people who
commit crimes, the answer is yes, yes, I think they
are suggesting that, which seems silly.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
They suggest do not pick a tattoo off the wall.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Well, most people would have suggested that to you, but
not Jazz.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
She left. Do you remember what the tattoo was that
he had in his hand.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
It wasn't like it was a it was an It
was a snaky snake. I forget that references.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I'm sorry, but yeah, So then we kind of.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Like, because this is a biblical, there's a biblical reference there.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Maybe perhaps I think I think it's.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Like that.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I think it was like maybe, I mean, we have
to check the script to see if the tattoo is specified.
It might have been.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
But also I totally believe it if they just were like,
I need a criminal tattoo like snake, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
It would have been barbed wire, though.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I mean there's a host of like stereotypical business flower.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
It's a butterfly on his lower back, it's t bone, stamp.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Storied relationships with tattoos.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I mean, there's a lot. I mean, that's a whole episode,
but we're not going to start that one right now,
so I definitely circling. I'd like this, let's circle back.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
I'm so sorry, Mac, please circle us back.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Sorry, you're getting off topic.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Bring us back, Mac, bring us back.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
So returning to that, there's a a police lineup and
I think we have Sergeant Michael's again in this one.
He's the guy. There's only one police officer in Glen Oak.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
No, there was two, but like our main one, there
were set And you know.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
That's why there's a lot of crime in Glen Oak
because they're really understaffed police. So they have all they
have pulled all these guys in and Annie recalls the
man who mugged them.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
No, no, no, Mac, I watched it.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
You didn't.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I did was fast forwarding. Let's be real, I did.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
No, But she remembers the tattoo and that's how she
goes no, no no, no no no no no no
no no no no no no no.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
They they pulled off some.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Men for the lineup, and maryctly what. Mary and Matt
look at the lineup and they say, I'm sorry, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I know, I can't.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
That's what we're talking talking about, doesn't what they do? Remember?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Year later.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
It then gets set up chronological recap.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Well, I mean it's never been chronological with you.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I guess we should story.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
You should do a recap in reverse starring Mac.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
That's what every episode is.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
So they they they can't do a rewatch people to
the emotions.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Then they can see us.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Wait, who's emotionally blocked?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Mary can't identify the man. They're so traumatized they've blocked
it out.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Oh you're recapping, you're back, Okay, got it.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Why would Mary be able to do anything? Like she
wasn't even there? What Mary? Never mind?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
No, no, Annie has Annie does have a moment with
Mary at the grocery store when Annie thinks that Mary's
being attacked and like she kind of goes mama bear
at the guy who's just returning her sunglasses. That's right,
And and that's also when.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Mary's starting to cry, and that's that's.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
When the yeah, and where Mary kind of just is
trying to calm her down and Annie kind of starts
to fall apart in the parking lot.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
And where do we go from here? So the Annie
starts to show her cracks at the grocery store.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And there's some music.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
There's always there's definitely music, but we we show Annie
over the course of the episode, the kind of gravity
of the situation, the trauma that she has suffered, kind
of catches up to her eventually, where she then has
a wonderful sweet performance a scene where she.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
You know, finally kind of lets it out and gets
upset in the kitchen yeah with with Eric.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And then Eric actually says he goes, so, by fine,
you mean that you were terrified and you were not okay,
She just like kind of like falls apart, which kind.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Of spells it out.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
She but she she does a wonderful kind of delayed breakdown.
So again, awesome performance from Catherine as usual. And uh
and and what happens is when they see Mary's fake tattoo,
they go then it then she realizes wait a minute,
(29:52):
calls back and says he had a tattoo sort of
what I said.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
It's not really, but I think I can see where
you were trying to get there, and you know what, here,
we'll dive deeper and we'll revisit whether that's what you
said or not when we come back and we are
that that was really good.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I think that that was awesome.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
No one told me we were doing that well. I mean,
not that I would participate in the singing.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
We want one of these days, we'll just get you
to sing on the podcast. Anyway, So wrapping up like
this episode and finishing it yet with a bow is
the whole tattoo connection. That is what kind of once
she sees it on Mary, even though she's mad because
Mary is a tattoo, it's this realization that that is
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a way that she can identify.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Yeah, we do a nice little flashback type thing and
she remembers the snake.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Snake what do you think like the ultimate criminal in
the eyes of the Camdens looks like, I mean definitely
lots of tats on the pot and pregnant as a teenager,
Like that's the criminality. Maybe you can't, I.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Mean there's roads lead to that suspect.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yes, Anyways, we're gonna have to dive deeper into that question.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
And I think once we keep going through these episodes,
I think it might really like standard to add to it.
I think there's definitely stuff to add. But as we
finish up this episode, also like I can we also
go back to there's like that cute scene where like
you kind of get you Simon, get left in the
bathtub with all the corn meal.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
I remember that we completely glossed over chicken poxpt like
whole arc.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I have a picture I think of you and me
in the bathtub.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Well, and I also distinctly remember them like having to
painstakingly paint me with these with the with the spots, yeah,
you know, and then take pictures of me.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Where they.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yeah, exactly, so they could always put them in the
same spot. And then if you notice in the episode
when Simon so first of all, when I'm trying not
to get the chicken pox from you, first I get
a snorkel Oh, that was so good.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I get a snorkel out.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
This is one of Simon's best like physical gags this
early in the show, honestly, and I was like watching it, going, yeah,
but like that's funny, good job me. I did it
this snorkel. I'm talking to you through the snorkel, and
Annie's just like, it's not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Simon. It's obviously not gonna work.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
When she's like you were exposed a week ago and you're.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Like, wait what, I'm just like, that's not how this works.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
And you also like were I think, uh, happy's itching too,
And then Matt says something about fleas and you're like, wait,
I can get those two like what I like. And
then and then also this realization once you have everything
that like you can't give it to anyone because you
thought you had power to give it powerless.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
I try to like threaten you guys with the chicken pox,
like don't mess with me, and you're like we had
Mary was like we had the chicken pox already.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
And then you were just so deflated.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yeah, yeah, it's it is. It is cute. I love
the snorkel gag though, my favorite gag that I got
in this episode. That's that's my highlight. But but then
they uh, as we go through the where were we going?
What was the the other the thing you were saying
about it just a second ago, the corn meal or
the corn meal? Yeah, the oatmeal bath thing.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, I don't know, an entire box and deep bath, right, and.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Then Annie sets me up with one of those nice
uh oatmeal bath things that you do when when you
get the chicken pox, or at least we used to
do when we.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Used to get the chicken pox and uh.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
And then you get left in the bath.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
And then she like walks away and I'm like, give
me that box. I dumped the whole thing in there
and to get in and basically like uh, batter myself
to be deep fried or something, which is funny and stupid,
like walked away and forgoing no.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Annie went to the grocery store and then like I
think you yell at me. I come, I come to
the the door and I'm like Mom's gone.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I'm just and then You're like, go get mad, and
I'm like, go get mad.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Right. His Boys and Girls Club definitely like going in
there separate spot.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yeah, and so and then Matt Matt like just picks
you up out of the bath and was like I
love the part where because this is such a kid
thing to say, like you're in the bath, and then
Matt's like got to get you in the shower and
You're like, but I just took a bath. Yeah, yeah exactly,
and you're like, as you're literally covered head.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
To toe and like, while I am fully battered, Yeah,
ridiculous was do you remember? No, I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
You know, remember the bath was always like they tried
to make it warm, but like obviously like there was
no Yeah, there's like you just have this like weird.
It's the bath scenes were always just so weird and
uncomfortable and just like.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
It was a bad as bad as the food on
the dinner table.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
No, I think it was worse.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
The bath was worse, but it wasn't like you didn't
have to do that much.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Well, it's warm when they fill it up for you,
but by the time you shoot, it is not warm,
and there's and no one cares.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
No one's going to redo it, definitely.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
So you just get in there and it's it's like,
you know, room temperature water, and you're covered in what
looks like sunscreen. I'm covered in paste, you know. I
I hate personally the sensation of being sticky. I can't
(35:36):
stand it. And so like anytime I had to do
like I really don't like being covered in like the
fake blood or anything. Like that with my onsets and stuff.
I'm always just like getting off me, Like I hate
being sticky so much.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
It's a serious stick for me.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Just do you use syrup as a condiment then, or
you just I do?
Speaker 4 (35:56):
I love maple syrup, but I but I am elbows
in my hair. But I can't stand like letting the
maple syrup like drip down the bottle. Like I'm the
person who like wipes the bottle when I use it,
like hot sauce, maple syrup, any anything I use that's
like that, I will clean it before I put it back.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I can't use it without getting it. This is just right.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
We're circling back anyway.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
So so so basically Annie kind of like you, you
survived chicken pox.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I survived the chicken pox. It's I thought I was
going to beat it, but no.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yes, defeated Yeah. And then and then Annie has her
big moment in the end realizing yes.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
And we back to what we were talking about originally.
Annie has her breakdown and uh, and we we kind
of wrap up the episode with her realization that the
guy who mugged them had a wrist to a hand tattoo.
And so they go back to the lineup at the
(37:05):
police station and she has everybody roll their sleeves up
and there it is so they they do catch the
guy who who mugs them in the beginning, and they
kind of get that, I don't know, closure, Yeah, that's
probably that's the best term for it, and security that.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
He's No, there's that moment.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
There's that moment in the middle of the night where
Annie gets up from bed and goes and takes Happy off.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Of my bed and uh, and that's where you're up
in my bunk with me and I'm like, what are
you doing up here? But I've just given up.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I'm just like, all right, whatever. And Annie takes Happy
with her downstairs to go check the locks. She's been
changing the locks the whole episode. Yeah, and uh and
she she checks the front door again and then sits, well,
I just thought it was so sweet because Happy is
(38:13):
so not the dog that would be helpful in that.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
She would be like she would cover her eyes.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Yeah, but but it just that secure. But Happy was
one hell of a security blanket, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
She was.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
She was and soft, so Happy did her job excellently.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
It was.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
It was a good episode. It was that was it
was fun. It Like, yeah, it was. It was very
There was a lot of sweet moments in it and
a lot of funny moments. There was a lot of
it was well balanced. It was a well balanced at.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
The title of this episode and like seeing it on
our scripts when we got that for some reason.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, well that was our wrap up of see no Evil,
Here no Evil our rehash recap. Let us know what
you guys think, what your favorite scenes were, leave us comments,
make sure to like subscribe, put the heart button. Check
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(39:08):
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Speaker 3 (39:13):
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Speaker 1 (39:14):
Crazy things are happening.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
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you follow us on all of our socials and do
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stuff for you.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Right, anybody else have anything to add? Uh?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
No, you nailed it all right, Thank you said.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
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Speaker 4 (39:39):
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Speaker 1 (40:00):
If you don't go the w
All right, Mac, do you think you can do the intro?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I find out I think I can.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
We start with you, so let's kick start this off.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
So we are back with another episode of Catching Up
with the can Bins, and this is a beat hash
of episode nine, which is no Evil speak no evil.
I don't think it mentions hearing evil, but anyways, I digress. Ruthie,
We've got you, got to you. I'm Mackenzie Rosman, but
(00:33):
everybody knows that, just kidding.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I'm David Gallagher and I'm Beverly Mitchell. And now let's
get into.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
The nobody knows that anyways. Uh yeah, So Ruthie has
the chicken pox in this episode and it opens up
with her playing a really solitary actually who he's there,
but she's playing Shoots and Ladders, I believe, or the
Candy Land, which are I think solid games by the
way I played them, though as an adult David, it's
(01:01):
not interesting as it was when I was a kid.
Sadly are they.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
In David's game collections?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Not for like age three and up to forever. It's
kind of like caps Out at twelve, you'll be bored.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Candy Lands like the worst game all you do is
go from one side of the board.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Or the other. It was awesome. I remember it being
so awesome. Okay, it's definitely so.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
The answer my question to you is.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
When I mean shoots and ladders is more fun than
candy Lands? You know, David's the game obviously to dynamic.
You know, board movement, shoots.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Not as dynamic as War.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You know the game War War What you mean Stratigo, No, the.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Card game War where it's like basically if you can
talk about oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, let's startle back bringing buns in this episode?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Why are you sitting in your room candy Lands?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Isolated? And I have the chicken pox and Simon doesn't
want me to breathe on him.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Fair enough and I get it anyways, right, but we don't.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
You're just yeah, spoilers. Let's remember slowly, we were just
actually in the episode. We gave up on the intro.
We're now in.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
We're in. It happen perfect. I'll do better if you
keep letting me try it.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
No, you're doing great. I said we're doing I wasn't
even talking about that. I'm saying we've by passed the intro.
You did a great job. Now we are into the
actual episode, so you don't want to breathe on you.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Annie and mad are listening to some rock song when
they're driving to.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Just skipping ahead, I think again. We're just going to
the like fast forward.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Mary wants to get to.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Okay, I'm just going through the major no, no, no, hold on, okay,
we have to restart.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
You have landed on catching up at the Camdens and
I am a Kenzie Rossman.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I'm not really Mitchell, and I'm David Gallagher and we
are rehashing episode nine. Ye speak no evils.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
You know the monkey thing?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Mm hmm it is, And.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
We start off with one crazy little monkey playing board games.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Chicken pox, myself isolated, they quarantined. Who quarantines a five
year old honestly with the chicken pox?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Everyone, that's yeah, that's the first thing.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Okay, well, yeah, she's playing a board game by herself.
Well who he was there? Allegedly he had she had
to do all of his moves for him.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
So that's so you're playing the game by yourself with
the chicken pox. We could get there's a knock at
the door. This is Simon pleading, can you please hold
your breath right so that I can get my stuff.
Simon does not have the chicken pox and is desperately
trying to go about his life in peace without the
(04:11):
chicken pox.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And he has that babe that he's trying to impress.
So that's why he doesn't want to get the chicken pox,
because he doesn't want to, like, you know, that would
count as like his first He doesn't never mind, he
doesn't want to have a girl on his crush. I
do you know infectious disease quite so young in its
(04:32):
dating lives?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I do love that there. Ruthie does have one great
line though, too, saying like when you actually say, well,
why don't you, why don't you hold your breath? Because
he's sitting here blaming you, you know, blaming you for breathing,
and you're like, well, you don't want to get infected admitted.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Right?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Too soon?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
So moving away from the chicken pox, we get into
early on in the episode the kind of the a
storyline of the episode, which is Matt and Annie are
in the car at night, driving down the road.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Where are they going? Do we know? Do we remember?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I think they were just they were supposed to be
like going home. But it was also very funny because
I was like, let Up was a pretty safe place.
But you know what some of those dark streets.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, we got to deal with these issues, man, these issues.
These kitchen table is.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
No, there was a car malfunction and one of the
wires came loose. So Annie has to fix the wires
right in that super old station.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
You know that was a class a really huge drug
problem and that could be why that they got mugged
in Gonoak.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I don't think because of the pot he was probably
I think.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
We're mixing episodes right now, but.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
In just in general, there's there's there's a drug problem,
a lot of teen pregnancies in Glen Oak and so trucks.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
The radio goes on the fritz and they Annie says,
pull it over so I can check it's probably a
loose wire. Because Annie is our jack of all trades,
kind of fix it all. They constantly are showing her
doing the plumbing and doing electrical and you know, doing
all sorts of.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Cracks rebuilding car and just because as you do when
you're a cool mom, like.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Right, So so she's to slide under the radio under
the dash and and when she does that, as they're
sitting on the side of the road in the dark,
a man runs up to the window with a gun
and Uh says.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Give me, give me your purse, your money.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
And all your money, give me everything, any of the stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And Annie says, this will be the easiest robbery ever
and just hands it all over and they then take
But there's a gun. There's because there's a gun.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Is a gun.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
There's a gun not to his head, just to just
pointed in their direction. Generally speaking, it staged is still
a dangerous image. But uh but it wasn't too It
wasn't like to the you know, it wasn't it wasn't
that right, We weren't that so uh So Matt freezes,
(07:27):
he can't move, He doesn't know what to do. He
doesn't respond, and Annie reaches over, gets his wallet out
of his pocket and gives the stuff, and he takes
her wedding ring forcefully. She she makes a noise like
it hurts. He rips her ring off her hand, and
then he uh takes their car keys so they can't
go anywhere, and he runs off into the darkness.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
And so they've been mugged at gunpoint and.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Thou seems like she's been mugged before. No.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I think it's like when you're in that of emergency
situation and somebody freezes, like I also think like the
motherly instinct is to like handle it right.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah, I think it's just it was a good I
think the point of it for the two of them
is to just demonstrate like different the right and wrong response,
so to like the safe response to this situation, which is, hey,
no problem, take what you want. I I've my life
is more important than anything I'm carrying.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Not to fight back.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
When someone pulls a gun on you, to just submit,
give them what they want, let them go, let them go.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Well, and so Annie does that, Matt does the thing that.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
You you want to avoid doing that you that you
shouldn't do, which is to freeze up and not be
responsive to the person making demands of you with the gun.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
So and and then and then that kind of sets
up like the you know, the the the arc, the
big main a storyline arc of the episode, which is.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Dealing with.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Being mugged, having having this crime kind of to you
the thing you never think will happen to you when
it does happen to you, and then how you process
that event, that trauma and the different ways that that
that that is processed by different people, which is great.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Because, like we've said before, it's like you get the
perspective from uh, Matt, and then you get the perspective
from Annie and Matt's Matt's kind of in this like
frozen stuck kind of space where he's having a hard
time kind of like going through it, and Annie's kind
of like, no, no, no, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine,
I'm fine, I'm okay, I'm fine, I'm fine. It out
(09:45):
and it's and it's the like to the point where
like you're fine until you're not fine, and when you're
not fine, you're really really not fine. Yeah, and when
like that kind of like breakdown and all the while,
you know, she's still trying to parent and she's still
trying to like be there for everyone else, so she's
kind of putting her herself, her needs and what had
(10:06):
happened to her last and wanting to deal with it.
It kind of like goes about her way. So that's
why we've got like the other storylines where she's taking
care of the kids with like chicken pox, and then uh, Lucy,
what was all.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Those areas to avoid dealing with her own emotions about it?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Absolutely, but then to lighten, like as seventh even does,
we lighten the episode with other storylines, and you know,
our good friend Jimmy Moon decides that he wants to
break up with Lucy because they're both running for class
president and asks her dad.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
This starts.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I was trying to bypass that I was like screwing
over It starts with the greatest boyfriend girlfriend fight.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Of the show so far, which is you guys tiffing
at each other over running for class president in front
of the school.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I forget exactly this is so good.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
We're going to get into it after the break so
I can convince you not to talk about it. So
let's just do it yet, I don't want to talk
about Lucy's uh outfit of choice? What's trying to run
for a class president? Because but yeah, this weird like
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which wasn't all that bad. I think it was that bad,
but like it was made to be really that bad.
But I definitely felt a little slighted by Mary's comments
saying like, you know, it's not Eric says, like you know,
it's not about what you look like, it's what you say.
And then Mary says, I've heard the speech, let her
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wear the dress.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
You know, I think it's actually fire burned there.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, you know, I think that's such a sisterly like things,
so supportive and so loving and kind. But yes, there
is a a very heated that's a joke because there's
no heat behind Jimmy Moon and Lucy passion.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
There, yes, very very muted passion.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
It's called monotone passion. It's uh, sighting as a white
piece of paper. So yeah, that's his Lucy. Lucy and
Jimmy Moon are running for class president and we have, yes,
we have a tiff, a tip a tiff.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
It's cute. It's just silly and cute. But I did
it made me.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Laugh, and Lucy, I'm pretty sure I huffed because guys
kind of.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Like, fine, yeah, you to and then you both like
march off in different directions, and I was just like as.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
One does in middle school relationships as boyfriend and girlfriend,
because also what does that mean? And then and then
he just to break up with her.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Middle school relationships, you know, like like a two weeks
it's like a long span.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Is no Jimmy Moon and they're going for the long
haul man until he decides to break up with her,
using her father to break up with her.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Jimmy and I'm looking for an out, yeah, and well
so and I don't know I need to grun to
the defense of Jimmy Moon.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
No, but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I guess to put it in the context of the
show or what the show is trying to do is
to is to is to show how like Jimmy Moons
a young kid, he doesn't know how to This is
his first breakup. He doesn't know what to do, and
so he starts off by making bad calls like oh,
I'll have other I'll have someone else do it for me.
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He doesn't man up to like to break up with Lucy?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Was that easy? You're like, you know, I don't feel
like breaking up with him? Will you do it for me?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
He looks for an out and easy out, which which
is you know, it's it's cute and it's in its own.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And honestly, I don't know what's worse having a guy
break up with you or having your dad break up
with you. For a guy, I.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Know what's worse.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
All of it.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I think it's easy. Which one of those is worse?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Did the dad?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Having your own dad do it for him is worse?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, having your dad be in on the breakup, Like
I realize there's a lot of trauma that Lucy went through,
Like no wonder she made such poor choices later.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
We didn't go through with the plans.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I don't think he knows he considered it.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I don't know. He obviously comes in.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
He know he did because he comes in and Lucy's
like said, and then Annie's mad. It's just sad mad.
Annie's mad at Eric for like having had the talk
with Lucy, and then she makes Jimmy Moon and Lucy
talk and then all of a sudden, like magical, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
You guys each other out of breaking up with each other.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, because we realize that our relationship is so much
more important than running for class president. While we're definitely
planting bulbs, you guys are.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Gonna You're like, I'm not going to run for class
president anymore. He's like, I'm not going to run for
class president anymore. You're worship It's really sweet.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
It's and I'm totally monotone.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
It's sweet in a in a a silly I don't know,
kind of boring.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
It wasn't sweet, it wasn't it wasn't my best storyline.
But that's okay. So moving on, Let's go to Mary,
who wants to get a tattoo.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Very storyline is that she is you know, that she's
like cool on the basketball team. We established he's a
good player already previously, but.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
We also find this out because she's basically Lucy's trying
to out her as sisters do. We're like, Mary tells
something for Lucy, and then Lucy's like, Mary.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Mary was a tattoo.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
You guys are savages.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Like, right from the beginning of the show, you guys
constantly backstab each other.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I'm pretty sure it's I'm doing most of it all
the time, but I'm pretty sure I start most of it.
And then Mary, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I mean, you know, when a war has been going
on that long, who's gonna remember who started.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
It's awful, it's messy, no one wins.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I definitely throw Mary under the bus for that damn tattoo.
And I was like, but.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Then Mary tries to like she tries to like justify.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
It and like and and reason for it, and it
just fails miserably with everybody, and she is warned not
to play the parents against each other, which she tries anyway.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
As every kid does.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I know and uh, and so that just it just
is a it's a non starter.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
She can't get the tattoo.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
And then as the as the show progresses, we see
the peer pressure kind of build. We see the other
teammates were like, hey, see it the tattoo parlot.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And then I'll be there, and then she I do,
I do love the reveal with the scrunchy socks and
there is a tattoo.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
That's right, and there is. In the end, we we
see her playing basketball. We get that great insert shot
of her wildcat ankle tat.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
With her scrunchy socks.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
With the scrunchy socks obviously obviously the first thing I noticed, scrunchy.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Sox and uh.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
And then it's you know, it's it's revealed that spoiler
she got a custom uh sticker tattoo.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
It looks really real where she found it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
But first Eric and Annie are very disappointed and very
upset and very mad because she went against their wishes.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yes, they were.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
And I didn't really do anything.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
It's just like, ah, I fooled you as well, come
right off.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
And then they were like, but and I'm a teenager
and I'm smarter than my parents.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Yeah, she exports everybody because she makes it clear that
you know, she got it for team spirit and every
fools everybody.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
So Mary wins again.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Mary wins. Wait, but let's dive. So we explore.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
But throughout this episode, the real important stuff, the a
storyline is the fallout from the robbery. So uh, maybe
we want to get into that a little more when
right after the right after this break, okay, so we're back,
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we're talking about the fallout from the mugging that happened
to Annie end Matt real.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Quick, because we keep saying a storyline and I know
that's like super we're very familiar with that, but like,
will you from the film critics side of it give
us the breakdown of like sometimes how these episodes are
set up. So we've got the ABC just because just
you know, for our listeners, just a quick overcap.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
As you guys are well aware, on Seventh Heaven, the
episodes are typically themed around something and all of the
different characters. Many stories will all tend to like come
around and join up around a common theme.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
But and you could usually tell who it is pretty easily.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
But there's usually one family member whose storyline is kind
of the centerpiece of the episode, and so that's like
the backbone of the episode, and we call that the
A storyline. So when you're doing multiple storyline threads, you
have your A storyline and then everything else is kind
of there isn't like ABC, you don't kind of rank
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order them, but everything you'll have your A storyline, and
then the B storylines will be supporting the A storyline.
Typically on other show formats that are more sprawling, then
you have like an ABC storyline that all kind of
go off in their own directions. And that's just to
keep track of different threads. But on our show, we
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always tend to coalesce around one theme and try to
stick a landing together at the end.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Right, it all is supposed to tie up at the end.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
So when we talk about the A storyline in this case,
that would be the mugging that happens. So that's the
big kind of shocking moment in the beginning that gives
you your cliffhanger into the episode. And that's the thing
that kind of hangs over all the characters. We all
hear about it, we all have our opinions about it,
and we're most interested in how those characters are dealing
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with that, which is Madden the event, Matt Nanny so
and again they the two of them deal with the
mugging itself in two different ways. Matt freezes up and
he responds selflessly and and uh and quickly to give
the mugger what he wants to get him away for
their safety.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
And that's great that.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I'm just as you're saying that, also, like what would
you say in that situation?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Are you a panicker? Are you someone who's like really
good at dealing with like an emergency situation, or are you,
like I'm just interested in, like who you guys are
as I'm not a pancker.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I'm pretty good at the emergency.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, I'm pretty good at the emergency situation. I'm the
what would you get?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
My thoughts are clearer and more organized in that.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, Hi, adrenaline is like it actually keeps you more centered.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I like to think I can focus in under pressure.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah that's good. So if anything bad happens, all three
of us are going to like rock it and kill it.
I mean.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
To take us.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I'm just saying I'm in charge.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
We're all dead.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
The three stooges all run to solve the problem, and.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I would be laughing because I guarantee all three of
us would solve something uniquely different. Our strategies would all
be very different in that Smario, probably, I'm sorry. I
I didn't mean to take us off, but I just.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Was circling back. V. Come on, BEV, We're circling back.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
So we uh So, as we go through the episode
with Annie and Matt, we see I think the so
Annie at first is just like I'm fine, I'm fine,
and and on the surface, she really does seem fine.
She's taking care of the kids, she's she's going through
the routine stuff. She you could tell that she's preoccupied,
but she does seem to keep it together, and you're
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really not sure how that's going to shake out. Matt
early on has to take the kids to school. He says,
I'm gonna go get in the car, and he sits
back in the car, and when everyone tries to go
to school, he can't move again. So as soon as
he puts himself back in that position he was in
when it happened. He freezes up again, and so his
trauma is more immediate. It's harder for him to deal with,
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and it's clear that he needs more help right away
to kind of get back to his normal self. So
and while that's happening, Annie is so busy trying to
be her normal self and make sure everything is fine
that she's effectively hiding how she truly feels about what
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has happened. They get a call from the police station
saying that they have suspects. So we've established that the
police are kind of like looking for the guy early on,
but then later they get a call that they have suspects.
They speak directly to Annie. She says, yeah, sure, we'll
be right there, hangs up and says nothing.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Do you think that this is why Annie and Eric
don't want Mary to get a tattoo, because you know,
the tattoo is how she recognizes the suspect who robbed them.
Maybe she's like a Mary, you know that tattoo could
give you away if you commit a crime.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I think that there was there there was a no
tattoo rule that was established at the beginning, but I
do think that there is also this kind of idea
that if you have a tattoo like you could be
like a criminal. I think I'm joking, I know, but
I do think that there is a connection with the test.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
There is if you're asking me if the show is
suggesting to its audience that tattoos are things they lead
you to the put on their body by people who
commit crimes, the answer is yes, yes, I think they
are suggesting that, which seems silly.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
They suggest do not pick a tattoo off the wall.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Well, most people would have suggested that to you, but
not Jazz.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
She left. Do you remember what the tattoo was that
he had in his hand.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
It wasn't like it was a it was an It
was a snaky snake. I forget that references.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I'm sorry, but yeah, So then we kind of.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Like, because this is a biblical, there's a biblical reference there.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Maybe perhaps I think I think it's.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Like that.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I think it was like maybe, I mean, we have
to check the script to see if the tattoo is specified.
It might have been.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
But also I totally believe it if they just were like,
I need a criminal tattoo like snake, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
It would have been barbed wire, though.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I mean there's a host of like stereotypical business flower.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
It's a butterfly on his lower back, it's t bone, stamp.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Storied relationships with tattoos.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I mean, there's a lot. I mean, that's a whole episode,
but we're not going to start that one right now,
so I definitely circling. I'd like this, let's circle back.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
I'm so sorry, Mac, please circle us back.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Sorry, you're getting off topic.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Bring us back, Mac, bring us back.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
So returning to that, there's a a police lineup and
I think we have Sergeant Michael's again in this one.
He's the guy. There's only one police officer in Glen Oak.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
No, there was two, but like our main one, there
were set And you know.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
That's why there's a lot of crime in Glen Oak
because they're really understaffed police. So they have all they
have pulled all these guys in and Annie recalls the
man who mugged them.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
No, no, no, Mac, I watched it.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
You didn't.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I did was fast forwarding. Let's be real, I did.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
No, But she remembers the tattoo and that's how she
goes no, no no, no no no no no no
no no no no no no no.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
They they pulled off some.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Men for the lineup, and maryctly what. Mary and Matt
look at the lineup and they say, I'm sorry, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I know, I can't.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
That's what we're talking talking about, doesn't what they do? Remember?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Year later.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
It then gets set up chronological recap.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Well, I mean it's never been chronological with you.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I guess we should story.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
You should do a recap in reverse starring Mac.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
That's what every episode is.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
So they they they can't do a rewatch people to
the emotions.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Then they can see us.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Wait, who's emotionally blocked?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Mary can't identify the man. They're so traumatized they've blocked
it out.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Oh you're recapping, you're back, Okay, got it.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Why would Mary be able to do anything? Like she
wasn't even there? What Mary? Never mind?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
No, no, Annie has Annie does have a moment with
Mary at the grocery store when Annie thinks that Mary's
being attacked and like she kind of goes mama bear
at the guy who's just returning her sunglasses. That's right,
And and that's also when.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Mary's starting to cry, and that's that's.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
When the yeah, and where Mary kind of just is
trying to calm her down and Annie kind of starts
to fall apart in the parking lot.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
And where do we go from here? So the Annie
starts to show her cracks at the grocery store.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And there's some music.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
There's always there's definitely music, but we we show Annie
over the course of the episode, the kind of gravity
of the situation, the trauma that she has suffered, kind
of catches up to her eventually, where she then has
a wonderful sweet performance a scene where she.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
You know, finally kind of lets it out and gets
upset in the kitchen yeah with with Eric.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And then Eric actually says he goes, so, by fine,
you mean that you were terrified and you were not okay,
She just like kind of like falls apart, which kind.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Of spells it out.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
She but she she does a wonderful kind of delayed breakdown.
So again, awesome performance from Catherine as usual. And uh
and and what happens is when they see Mary's fake tattoo,
they go then it then she realizes wait a minute,
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calls back and says he had a tattoo sort of
what I said.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
It's not really, but I think I can see where
you were trying to get there, and you know what, here,
we'll dive deeper and we'll revisit whether that's what you
said or not when we come back and we are
that that was really good.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I think that that was awesome.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
No one told me we were doing that well. I mean,
not that I would participate in the singing.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
We want one of these days, we'll just get you
to sing on the podcast. Anyway, So wrapping up like
this episode and finishing it yet with a bow is
the whole tattoo connection. That is what kind of once
she sees it on Mary, even though she's mad because
Mary is a tattoo, it's this realization that that is
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a way that she can identify.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Yeah, we do a nice little flashback type thing and
she remembers the snake.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Snake what do you think like the ultimate criminal in
the eyes of the Camdens looks like, I mean definitely
lots of tats on the pot and pregnant as a teenager,
Like that's the criminality. Maybe you can't, I.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Mean there's roads lead to that suspect.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yes, Anyways, we're gonna have to dive deeper into that question.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
And I think once we keep going through these episodes,
I think it might really like standard to add to it.
I think there's definitely stuff to add. But as we
finish up this episode, also like I can we also
go back to there's like that cute scene where like
you kind of get you Simon, get left in the
bathtub with all the corn meal.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
I remember that we completely glossed over chicken poxpt like
whole arc.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I have a picture I think of you and me
in the bathtub.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Well, and I also distinctly remember them like having to
painstakingly paint me with these with the with the spots, yeah,
you know, and then take pictures of me.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Where they.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yeah, exactly, so they could always put them in the
same spot. And then if you notice in the episode
when Simon so first of all, when I'm trying not
to get the chicken pox from you, first I get
a snorkel Oh, that was so good.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I get a snorkel out.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
This is one of Simon's best like physical gags this
early in the show, honestly, and I was like watching it, going, yeah,
but like that's funny, good job me. I did it
this snorkel. I'm talking to you through the snorkel, and
Annie's just like, it's not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Simon. It's obviously not gonna work.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
When she's like you were exposed a week ago and you're.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Like, wait what, I'm just like, that's not how this works.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
And you also like were I think, uh, happy's itching too,
And then Matt says something about fleas and you're like, wait,
I can get those two like what I like. And
then and then also this realization once you have everything
that like you can't give it to anyone because you
thought you had power to give it powerless.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
I try to like threaten you guys with the chicken pox,
like don't mess with me, and you're like we had
Mary was like we had the chicken pox already.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
And then you were just so deflated.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yeah, yeah, it's it is. It is cute. I love
the snorkel gag though, my favorite gag that I got
in this episode. That's that's my highlight. But but then
they uh, as we go through the where were we going?
What was the the other the thing you were saying
about it just a second ago, the corn meal or
the corn meal? Yeah, the oatmeal bath thing.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, I don't know, an entire box and deep bath, right, and.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Then Annie sets me up with one of those nice
uh oatmeal bath things that you do when when you
get the chicken pox, or at least we used to
do when we.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Used to get the chicken pox and uh.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
And then you get left in the bath.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
And then she like walks away and I'm like, give
me that box. I dumped the whole thing in there
and to get in and basically like uh, batter myself
to be deep fried or something, which is funny and stupid,
like walked away and forgoing no.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Annie went to the grocery store and then like I
think you yell at me. I come, I come to
the the door and I'm like Mom's gone.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I'm just and then You're like, go get mad, and
I'm like, go get mad.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Right. His Boys and Girls Club definitely like going in
there separate spot.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yeah, and so and then Matt Matt like just picks
you up out of the bath and was like I
love the part where because this is such a kid
thing to say, like you're in the bath, and then
Matt's like got to get you in the shower and
You're like, but I just took a bath. Yeah, yeah exactly,
and you're like, as you're literally covered head.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
To toe and like, while I am fully battered, Yeah,
ridiculous was do you remember? No, I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
You know, remember the bath was always like they tried
to make it warm, but like obviously like there was
no Yeah, there's like you just have this like weird.
It's the bath scenes were always just so weird and
uncomfortable and just like.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
It was a bad as bad as the food on
the dinner table.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
No, I think it was worse.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
The bath was worse, but it wasn't like you didn't
have to do that much.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Well, it's warm when they fill it up for you,
but by the time you shoot, it is not warm,
and there's and no one cares.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
No one's going to redo it, definitely.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
So you just get in there and it's it's like,
you know, room temperature water, and you're covered in what
looks like sunscreen. I'm covered in paste, you know. I
I hate personally the sensation of being sticky. I can't
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stand it. And so like anytime I had to do
like I really don't like being covered in like the
fake blood or anything. Like that with my onsets and stuff.
I'm always just like getting off me, Like I hate
being sticky so much.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
It's a serious stick for me.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Just do you use syrup as a condiment then, or
you just I do?
Speaker 4 (35:56):
I love maple syrup, but I but I am elbows
in my hair. But I can't stand like letting the
maple syrup like drip down the bottle. Like I'm the
person who like wipes the bottle when I use it,
like hot sauce, maple syrup, any anything I use that's
like that, I will clean it before I put it back.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I can't use it without getting it. This is just right.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
We're circling back anyway.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
So so so basically Annie kind of like you, you
survived chicken pox.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I survived the chicken pox. It's I thought I was
going to beat it, but no.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yes, defeated Yeah. And then and then Annie has her
big moment in the end realizing yes.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
And we back to what we were talking about originally.
Annie has her breakdown and uh, and we we kind
of wrap up the episode with her realization that the
guy who mugged them had a wrist to a hand tattoo.
And so they go back to the lineup at the
(37:05):
police station and she has everybody roll their sleeves up
and there it is so they they do catch the
guy who who mugs them in the beginning, and they
kind of get that, I don't know, closure, Yeah, that's
probably that's the best term for it, and security that.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
He's No, there's that moment.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
There's that moment in the middle of the night where
Annie gets up from bed and goes and takes Happy off.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Of my bed and uh, and that's where you're up
in my bunk with me and I'm like, what are
you doing up here? But I've just given up.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I'm just like, all right, whatever. And Annie takes Happy
with her downstairs to go check the locks. She's been
changing the locks the whole episode. Yeah, and uh and
she she checks the front door again and then sits, well,
I just thought it was so sweet because Happy is
(38:13):
so not the dog that would be helpful in that.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
She would be like she would cover her eyes.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Yeah, but but it just that secure. But Happy was
one hell of a security blanket, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
She was.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
She was and soft, so Happy did her job excellently.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
It was.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
It was a good episode. It was that was it
was fun. It Like, yeah, it was. It was very
There was a lot of sweet moments in it and
a lot of funny moments. There was a lot of
it was well balanced. It was a well balanced at.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
The title of this episode and like seeing it on
our scripts when we got that for some reason.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, well that was our wrap up of see no Evil,
Here no Evil our rehash recap. Let us know what
you guys think, what your favorite scenes were, leave us comments,
make sure to like subscribe, put the heart button. Check
us out on Patreon, and also follow us on socials
(39:08):
because we've been teaching David how to do social media.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
It's been crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Crazy things are happening.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
You ex dot my dear what we're making him do
and it's all for you guys, So make sure that
you follow us on all of our socials and do
all of the fun things because we've got some good
stuff for you.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Right, anybody else have anything to add? Uh?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
No, you nailed it all right, Thank you said.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Hey? Guys.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
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