September 22, 2025 • 48 mins
Lucy’s 13th birthday brings a surprise party, Camden family gifts, Simon stepping up with Happy, and a classic Mrs. Bink performance in Season 1, Episode 12. Plus — new episodes every week, with early access on Patreon!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, everyone, this is catching up with the Camdens. I
am Beverly Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm David, and I'm because you're also.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
And we're doing things a little differently as you can see,
because we are all in.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Different places right now. But we are so excited.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
That we are going to do another rewatch of season
one chapter Season one, episode twelve with a little help
from my friends.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
And this is a fun episode. Lots of lots of
things are happening.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
So many, so many things.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
As we will get used to, so many things.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
And one of the big things that is happening is
Lucy is turning thirteen and it is a big deal
and she makes it known right from the start.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
That it is a big deal and she has expectations.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You're so hilarious, classic like Lucy over the top like this,
this episode just sums Lucy up so well great.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It does, doesn't it. It's it's she.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I know, honestly, though she's not normally a self centered
as she comes across in this episode. Though it's she
she is.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
But you know what, I think also part of like
Lucy wanting to have like such a special birthday is
being the middle child.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I think she feels like this is her moment, like
this is like her her day, and she just.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Wants it to be perfect and wants it I've seen
see me.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I'm hurd here, I'm burtee. That did not come until
much later.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Trying.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yes, yeah, I think it was. It was definitely, But
I think I also can relate to that. I mean,
I think being an only child, I we've made a
big deal about my birthday.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Did you guys do that?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Like?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Were your birthday terrible? Time? No one wants to do
anything for my birthday, myself included. It's between Christmas and
New Year's which are like things I need strength for,
like and you know, social stamina. I don't my birthdays here.
I'm just like, let's just let's just get gas station food.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Wait, did you have like order as a kid?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Did you have like did you celebrate like half birthdays
like to like so you could have like a summer birthdays?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, And as an adult, every year I tell myself
I'll have a party in June. June comes around, I'm like,
I'm bad at hey, guys, celebrate my birthday now.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
The last birthday or your future birthday birthday?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You know what I think I should. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
It seems like the Camdens in this particular episode are
are particularly old fashioned with the you know, we celebrate
a birthday by by staying home and like drawing pictures
for each other or giving each other things we don't want.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
No, I love the gifts like I think it is
we make, we find or we give away something that
we don't want anymore, and that is and then also
when I love when Jimmy's like, He's like, so, then
I don't have to get you anything. And then of
course Lucy does what Lucy does, which is hangs up
with a hoof.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
This is a star episode for Lucy's crew, Old Jimmy
Moon and Dwight.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, dude, yeah that kid. So when I saw him,
I'm like, oh my god. He reminds me of Chris Farley.
And then I look it up and he ends up
playing young He's in Beverly Hills Ninja as like young
Chris Farley's character, which is ironic and that's also sadly
not where the similarities lie, but it is funny.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
He definitely he had some good lines too, He really
good lines, and I love can we also please talk
about Eileen Brennan, Missus Bink like is just gold in
every scene that she's in and when she's she's trying
to get Matt to like keep her secret that basically
she needs help and just has she kind of like
(04:30):
I also feel like she's got this like kind of
like devilish smile, like she just she loves having like
Matt as her like go to help boy.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Yeah, you can see in missus Bink's character and performance,
you can see it's a very two sided performance because
half of it is the kind of the desperation of
being lost and confused, used in your own space.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah, and then the other half is that is that devilish.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Twinkle in her eye, the signs of the old missus
Bink that everyone knows and expects that has this sassin attitude,
that is that is very and sharp wit. And it
all kind of bubbles up and goes away in each
scene like in little flashes, and it's and it's it's
(05:25):
heartbreaking in a way. Honestly, it's it's a very it's
my favorite performance of the episode for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean, I think I mean Brennan hands
down just such she's just pure gold. And whenever she
came on, she brought something so magical. And I think
also like at the time when we were shooting this
and when we were reading the script, like I didn't
understand the fragility of that.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Time in your life.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And so now as we're older and we're seeing kind
of the people that we love lose.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Those memories or you know, not remembering.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
What they just said, and it's heartbreaking, it's truly heartbreaking,
but like so well done.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
We're dealing with a bit of that right now, and
it's it's it's really crazy to you know, especially what
it's a family member or something you know, just to
see the person that you knew not not be that
person anymore.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It's yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And to feel like your your freedom and your you're
you know, is taken away from from you is tough too.
Like there's the transition between moving, having your independence and
needing help.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
I think that's interesting you bring that up, your freedom
being taken away from you, because there is this element
in the even in the in the show here with
Missus binc there is this resentment that comes from Missus
Bink and it feels like like she's where that she's
(07:02):
losing a piece of herself, some of her freedom, and
she wants to blame it on someone, but there's no
one to blame it on, and so you get this
this flailing which is very sad and very.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Very relatable, you know, where.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
She doesn't really have anyone to blame, so she kind
of lashes out indiscriminately or or blames the one person
who's trying to help her, who's Matt.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Well, and she's fearful that Eric is going to put
her in her home like that Eric, And I think
that at that age, that's where you're kind of scared of,
like max out of like losing that freedom and being
kind of just put away and.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Forgotten the circle coming back to.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So she's so scared, and I think, like, I love though,
the playfulness and what a perfect scene partner in Barry
with Missus Bank because they have this like ongoing fun
but also like you know, Matt trying to keep a secret,
knowing that like he will, and and also like when
(08:09):
Mary comes into to play and kind of is now
brought into this uh secret of keeping Missus Bank kind of.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
The scene safe.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I think the scene a lot of the scenes too
with Matt and Missus bink work because they're both just
so good at comedy too, yes, and they're like on
opposite sides of the spectrum a bit too in some regards,
and it's just it's really really cute. Simon has a
(08:44):
pretty big oh a pretty big thing.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
One of my favorite scenes when one of my favorite
scenes same.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
When when you David, when you come into the kitchen
and you take your stand about for like women's rights.
When but yeah, that was hilarious.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
She's a new mom, Simon. Can we talk about.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
The cutest thing the fact that like you were like
such it was so funny because it's the first time
and I'm like, oh my god, this is.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Like this is what David would be like as he's becoming.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
A dad, like so protective, so like I'm I'm going
to be that partner, Like what do I need to do?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Like so like it was so cute.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
He's like, I don't know, happy's husband, partner owner, I
don't like it was.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
His categorization of please.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
So it is so cute.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
It is literally like I love the the grown up
like Simon in this little body who's like, you know,
he is ready to take on the world and be
the best dad for these puppies.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Extra in this as happy as husband. What what are
we saying? What? Excuse me?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
But the enthusiasm, right, you can't knock the enthusiasm. It's uh,
it is really funny to see, uh, Simon suddenly become,
like you said, such a hyper aware feminist On behalfy
his dog who has never done this before and seriously
can help and support and I need to be there
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for her as the father of these puppies.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It was the cutest thing ever.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
And the over protective nature every time she's like Happy's
let out, like You're like.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
She's she can't be outside.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
It's just like, do.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
You know what was really cunny though that I noticed,
Like there's a one scene where you run in the
kitchen and you're, you know, you're talking about Happy and
Eric and Annay are sitting there and you know they
each say to each other, he gets that from you.
He gets it for you, like you know, they're blaming
the other parent, but in like the sweetest way, like
for the things you do right, And I'm like thinking, like,
(11:07):
don't normally people go he gets it from you, and
you know the kid's doing with it some undesirable behavior displayed,
but I'm like, oh, they're so sweet to each other.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
I still think it was a little bit of like
this this uh, this over the top.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Stuff is yeah, yeah, you know it was sweet.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
No, it's it was all very tongue in cheek and sweet.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yet well don't you find that though as a parent
now that there's sometimes where you look at your kid
and you're like, oh god, that's me or you're like,
oh no, no, that is not that is not me.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
That is all you and and I say this to
each other all the time, but like all the time, Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
It was probably the most relatable parental thing. Uh so far.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I know we got one.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Guy each other credit for like for the good stuff. Yeah, yeah,
it was funny.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I definitely take credit for the good stuff. When the
good stuff then I both ways.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
We do it for the positive things, but it's funnier
for the silly things.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I like that same with Simon and ruth Fie where
they're going over the names for the puppies. I thought
that was really cute.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
It's one of my favorite scenes. So first of all,
I come up with the name Mac.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Was that what it said? Because I replayed it, I'm like,
wait what.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
And then ever ever was it ever ever rested?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
And then I love being Blossom.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Bean Blossom, who can for the wind?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Who can?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Absolutely being Blossom?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
And I'm pretty sure those puppies that we had were
actually my cousin's puppies, so I actually like brought them
because she had just happened to have puppies.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
And those were the puppies that.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
We used, which looked nothing like happy because they were
Australian shepherds happy, you know, father was No, that's very true,
getting around.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
She landed in in the old Camden House, so you know.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
She was she was a shepherd, I guess.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
And then can we please talk about Dwight because you
know Dwight was having a birthday party on Lucy's birthday,
which was like, it was so funny, a big deal
because you know he was planning something.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Having just been introduced. Yeah, just coming through to the house. Yeah,
to come in and sweet talk mom.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
And how about his line kudos on the cookies, Betty
Crocker has nothing on you. I remember I remember when
he said that line, like, I will never forget that.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
As soon as I heard it, I had that like
it struck like lightning where I was like, oh my god,
I remember this.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Kid because I just remember that line of being like
that's okay, like.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
We'll go for it.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
But that's what's so funny about his performance is that
he his performance starts off where he he says everything
kind of sassy and kind of slippery, and there's this
there's this like drag on the way he says everything.
But then by this point in the episode, after seeing
him for a couple of scenes, it all comes across
(14:19):
as like very like manipulative and he's trying to be
charming and he's it's all just his way of like
like ingratiating himself to everybody, Like oh yeah, So it
comes across as intentional after a while, as opposed to
just you know, in a tick or the way this
kid talks.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, because at the beginning of the when we first
meet Dwight, like he's trying to get everyone to come.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
To his birthday party.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, and like all the girls like basically everyone like
everyone's mean, Like all the girls are like I don't
know who you are, like never in a million years,
Like I'm washing my hair like and then and then
Lucy comes up and apparently like Dwight's Jimmy Moon's best
friend who we've never met before.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Didn't Jimmy Moon look especially sleepy during I feel like,
didn't Jimmy Moon look extra sleepy during some of these scenes?
I thought he often was sleepy, I know, but he
looked extra sticky this time.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Jimmy Jimmy Moon seemed to be his old self to me, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
You know, yeah, maybe it was just standing next to
like Dwight, who's basically like standing on a you know,
auction box, like shouting at people. But yeah, I do
love the fact that he immediately hurls insults and anyone
who rejects him like without even.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Yeah, well it's funny. They paired Jimmy Moon with his
best friend. So Jimmy Moon, who was very unbothered and
seemingly uh, barely aware of things that are happening with
his best friend who.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Is like who's like a sassy kid, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
And I just thought that they're like, it seemed so
intentional to me that they they paired up Jimmy Moon's
kind of unique quirky performance with another unique quirky performance
made them like this this.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Uh yeah, this un likely?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Who yeah, exactly well, And I also think there's a
there's a moment too in the episode where, like I
feel like was not the best moment for Lucy, where
she became very shallow about Jimmy and dwighte not being cool.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
And since now.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Lucy is a cheerleader, obviously she is cool and could
get cool kids to come to her party.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
And obviously as a parent, I was like, oh, man.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Like, but then again, she's turning thirteen, like, of course
all of these things are happening, and of course she's gonna,
you know, not be well.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
I felt both ways about it, Like I was like, oh,
it's Lucy is at the same time very relatable in
the sense that she wants to have her own birthday party,
which is a very reasonable thing to care about at
that age, and she wants to remember You say, I
want to remember this day for the rest of my life,
and you say it like, come on, I'm thirteen, like
(17:15):
it's the most important day ever. So funny and cute
in hindsight, But then you know, at the same time,
you you start to defend yourself on those grounds for
the wrong reasons. Yeah, So you, it's it's cute, and
then it's also like it's come on, there is a
(17:37):
lesson here for Lucy.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, we've raised you better than that.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Well then right after that moment when you know Lucy
kind of has a slip up, Simon has this This
scene was truly my favorite.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
When you come down to the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
And you're exhausted from being up all night. Yeah, and
the reason why was because you were feeding feeding Happy,
because every time Happy fed the puppies, you fed Happy
because you wanted to make sure that she had enough milk.
That was so sweet and actually like there was there's
(18:14):
something so tender about like Simon's little heart where like
he's so aware, hyper aware, I would say, yes, and
hyper helpful, like it was just oh my god, it's
the cutest scene.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
It is.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
And again, Sean and I say this about Lily all
the time, where people are like, oh, like, is Lily helpful?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
And I'm like, yes, Lily is too helpful.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
And so like that sentiment is exactly what's going on here.
Simon cannot help himself but to be hyper helpful even
if it's uncalled for, and exhausts himself from getting up
through the night with Happy.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Being a doting and worried father.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Again, it's Simon's like conception of this maybe needs a
bit of.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Uh help, But I love that you're.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Mad at Ruthie because Ruthie did not wake up and
did not take part and she didn't take her shift.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
To be fair, I've been mad before because somebody's going
to make to take haven't we like, But.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
It's it's so cute because now that we're parents, like
this scene like is even funnier because now there's it's
so relatable that like you want your partner to like
wake up and like you know, take a shift and
like that bitterness.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Like when you see someone sleeping and you're tired and
you're just like I You're just like so mad. It's
so funny.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
But it's just so sweet as a child trying to
take care of a dog. It's it's I don't think
I saw the magic in it when we were doing it,
because obviously I wasn't on this side of life.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Yeah perspectively.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Now, Oh, it's literally like so freaking cute. I love
this whole storyline for you. It's so fun, it is
very cute.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
So so Simon, I love that it is very Simon
as well to not only put himself in this, in
this predicament that is exhausting him, and it's all it's
all kind of self inflicted, but but then to also
treat Ruthie as his partner, your partner in the crime,
who is disappointing him, even though this is something no
(20:34):
one signed up for.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
But in Simon's head, it.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
All should work like this, and he's just taking the
paradigm of parenting and over applying it as as he
will often do.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I I love it. It's just it's the cutest thing.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
After this, yeah, we get into a little bit of
what I guess is part of the A storyline or
maybe the B storyline, But it's Eric who is going
out of his way, bending over backwards in fact, breaking
things at the church so that he can help one
(21:17):
of his parishioners who has lost his home, and he's
essentially trying to force work at the church for him
so that he can give him some money and help
him out without making it feel like charity. He's trying
(21:39):
to give him the opportunity to work for things, and
so he's just looking for any excuse to help out
this parishioner. But what surprised me and what I wasn't
quite ready for this early in the show. I obviously
remember that this was a thing, but I didn't realize
it was so quick. In the first season, was that
(22:00):
we we see this parishioner who is living in his
van with his wife and his daughter, and his daughter
is my sister Michelle.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah, when she popped up on my screen, I was like,
Oh my.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Gosh, baby Michelle.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Yeah, it's and the same I did the same thing.
I went, oh, wow, this is Michelle's episode I had.
I didn't realize it was coming up so quick.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I the moment she popped up on screen, I was like,
oh my gosh. I didn't realize it either, So it
was like, oh.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Like, baby Michelle. I've never seen baby Michelle before. I know.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
It's such a trip.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Like I think that's what's so fun about re living
these episodes is these little nuggets that come to surprise us.
It's like we're fully aware that these things happen, but
they kind of pop up when you're just like, wait,
what they.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Were in this episode?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
No, no way, Like, it's it's so fun.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I know, she's so cute, she's so sweet. Her scene with.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Her, she's a couple of lines.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
She did a great job and she's like, I'm not
scared of her.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
So cute. She was very cute and she did a
great job.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
And it's and it's funny too because you know, I
doubt many people even to this day. Uh know that
my sister, you know, did a little guest to parents
on the show and that and that that's.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
My sister Michelle.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
But but I'm the oldest of five kids.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Michelle is is the second.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
She's three years younger than me, so at the time
she must have been eight when we when we did
this episode, give her take and.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
She did great because she's working up against like Eileen
Brennan yep, which is just like so wonderful, and she
held her own. It was a great scene.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Like she's so cute at the because because we skipped
over it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
But after Missus Bank kind of falls because she was
trying to get a can off the and also I
love Missus being Aunt Gladys and calling and getting a
Matt and Mary in trouble.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Yeah, the Aunt Gladys sketch made me laugh.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yet after she breaks her hip and then you know,
we finally get missus Bank home, and like, like Eric would,
Eric finds a way to help a family and to
help Missus Bank feel needed, because I think that's what
the doctor says, is that the biggest thing that someone
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in that stage of life is they need to feel needed.
They don't want to feel insignificant, and they need to
have purpose. And that part of that is like kind
of teeming her with this family in which she can
help them, but she also has like a little mini family.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
There really are a lot of similarities between the beginning
of your life and the end of your life. Like
you know, I was thinking, you know, for for her
losing independence, that's the same. You know, when you're and
you're a kid, all your want is to gain independence
and that's probably why it's so sad when you're losing
it again. But also that they need to feel needed too,
I mean, that's what makes kids happy, you know. Of course, really,
(25:17):
I bet the similarities don't end there, but it's just
still circle sad.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
And the way that the way that this comes about,
it's all kind of orchestrated by Eric, as many events
in the show are kind of in the background as
the puppet master. He's trying to put people in the
right place at the right time so that his plan
can can happen on its own sort of a thing.
(25:43):
But having the family at Missus Bink's house and then
and then Missus Bink trying to trying to ask without
asking that if if they could stay, you know, just
until just until he gets back on his feet or
or I get back on my feet or whatever, and
(26:04):
graduates little exchange. It's very charming and sweet and turns
out to be a great little solution to Missus Bink's
issue because it and they do they make a point
to show that it's not just because the dad is
a handyman and that that's what Missus Bink needs. But
(26:27):
they show the mother helping Missus Bink with her medications,
and then they show the daughter sitting with Missus Bink
and giving her company. And so you see that this
little family, that each member of the family has something
to offer Missus Bink.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
That she needs.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I don't remember seeing this family though in subsequent episodes
with Missus Bank, I remember her. So did they end
up coming in or do they live in her garage?
And we never hear from them because it's not what happens.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Well, like Seventh Heaven done. As we wrap it up,
I think it's.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
Move on from this vignette and move on to other things.
But but I think it's it seems to be a
nice little wrap up for the for the kind of
two main stories of the show to come together at
the end and and uh and and each one solves
the other's issue in a very communal kind of community
(27:27):
focused way.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
It's nice.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
And then we go back to Lucy not wanting to
go to Dwight's party because at the same time, meanwhile, meanwhile,
big things are happening for Lucy and and I. But
before that, though, I think is a very sweet scene
because also the through line, because Eric is helping this
family who has lost everything, is this notion of how
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he didn't raise us right because Lucy is so centered
on like wanting what she wants and not recognize how
much she already has.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
So there's this very big.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Teachable moment, yes where Eric is disappointed in himself and
Lucy I think actually said because he said he failed
as a father, and Lucy says, no, you didn't like
you did teach me the right things, but I haven't
learned them all yet. And I thought that that was
actually very sweet because there's often times where like we
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do instill these lessons and we do these things, and
you know, like not everyone catches on on the first try,
Like sometimes it takes a little bit longer, and it's
that recognition of like one, she does recognize how much
she has, she does recognize how much she's loved, but
she's you know, just having this moment as a thirteen
(28:46):
year old that she wanted something, you know, something special. Meanwhile,
I also I just in my notes, I love that
Ruthie decides like she just wants to give away the
puppies because they don't do anything, because it's this notion
of like, puppies are boring because all they do is
eat and they like sleep when they pick and I
(29:06):
don't like want to I don't want them anymore, and
and and Simon. But then also when Simon talks about
like finding homes for them, Ruthie is also very focused
on the fact that they can't be split up because
it's like, would be like splitting up Ruthie and Simon. Yeah,
and that very sweet line that Simon has do you
(29:28):
remember the line.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I wrote it down because it's so cute what God
has brought us together. Let no man take a part.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Oh that's right, yeah, my little my little Bible quote.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yes, it's which is also just again so sweet because
it's this like you're very this fatherlike figure for these puppies,
and this is really cute.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I think the show and this this is I think
the show constantly showed its strength in demonstrating the voice
of children. Yeah, and so you know, some of it's
some of it's a bit campy or cheesy or you know,
(30:14):
or silly. And but but in the but in the dialogue,
in the way that the kids are perceiving the storylines
that are going on around them, the show really captures
like the innocence of childhood in a way that feels
it feels unique. When I watch it, I just and
it and it does make me smile. And that's sometimes
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it's a sweet smile, and sometimes it's like a cringey smile,
and sometimes it but but it always, it always does
have that effect of making me go like, ah, that's
so funny that.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
They wrote the kids like that.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
You know that the kids have this very unique innocent perspective,
and and they they did a great job with that
over the course of the show, I think.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
And did you guys guys notice that when there's a
scene in the middle school hallway and that was a
true that's when we didn't have these We didn't have
the hallway set yet, so.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
We were in a real school.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Yeah, you could tell when we were outside when when
they're shout, when Dwight shouting at kids and stuff. That
was like the university school that we shot at for
a while.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
No, that wasn't university yet.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
That was the one over in North Hollywood, the little
I forgot the name of it, but it was like
right around the corner from the church.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Yeah, it was near the church. Yeah, and there was
a school that we used in the beginning for a while. Yeah,
and we would shoot outside inside you know. But h
but I do. I did notice that. I went, oh, yeah,
this is when we when we used a location.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
For this, I know, yeah, we used a location for
the exterior and the.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Interior, which was definitely like didn't happen like further on
in the seasons when we dive deeper into the show.
I also, uh, when Jimmy reveals that he is throwing
a surprise party for Lucy, but like Lucy ruined it,
which is also again a total like typical Lucy storyline
where like something good was meant for her and she
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totally like messed it up.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Yeah, that reveal was and it's uh, it's and Jimmy Moon,
of course, just lays it out to you in a
way that where you're like, oh, man, yeah, he tried,
he tried to do something sweet for you. Maybe the
effort was not obvious to all, but it was there.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
So then we go and we go out to dinner
like as we do as a family, and we have
our family dinner and you know when something's I forgot
where they talk about like a gift or something, and
she said she learned. This is what Lucy says, I
learned a lesson and that's a present from life.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
It is.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It's funny because I feel like sometimes like there's these
very strange moments where like Lucy will say something that
is like it makes sense, but it's still a little
like because I don't feel like she's all that wise.
I feel like Lucy's still like struggling to figure it
all out, especially at thirteen and then wham bam, we
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have a surprise party.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Well, again, the kid's voice, right, is not a perfect
perspective with all the information that you would need to
make the same decisions an adult would make. Yeah, but
it's the They do a good job at a kind
of giving us all our unique kid's voice that means
well and gets things wrong and stuff, you know. But yeah,
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we come home from a dinner out, which is a
much more normal way I think normally to celebrate a birthday,
right to have to have dinner out. And then we
come home to a a very dark house. And then
we walked through the dark house and you can immediately
tell right there you go, here it comes and then
the lights kick on and lo and behold, all of
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Lucy's friends are present.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
For boys and girls, boys and.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Girls, boys and girls because it's a boy girl.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Wanted it's a boy girl party that she's too young for.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Maybe, but but here we go.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yes, And it was funny too because I didn't realize
that Mela was Mela Cunas was in this episode.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Because Ashley comes back.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Actually dancing with an older woman.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yes, I love that one.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
It's so cute When that part comes up.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
I went, oh, yeah, it's like that's Mela Cutas and
Seana was like it is, yeah, that's Melacunas, and then
I put in my notes amazing dancing.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, oh my god, okay.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I do love also that Lucy acknowledges that she didn't
deserve this, but she's grateful for it. And I also
love that it's the older sister moment with Mary when
Mary's like, yeah, you definitely didn't like she like calls
her out like yeah, there's like she was, There's this
sweetness and then Mary is just definitely like the grounding force,
being like yep.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
But when Lucy made the cheerleader comment to her her disgust,
she was just like.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Yeaes.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
The Mary Lucy dynamic and sisterhood is just like through
and through, like solid.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
It was great.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
But in my notes, I literally wrote, oh MG, the
dancing with Dwight and when White admits to being in
love and it's just this like it's all it is,
is just like arms because I.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
There it was so bad.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
It's so bad.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
If you just enjoy this moment, there's so much amazing
dancing going on to be to be seen. One kid
in the background is doing one of these, Oh my god,
just really aggressively.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Because also keep in mind for the audience to understand,
is that we don't get music, so there's no music
that we're dancing to.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
It's just silent.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
So the people like, everyone has their own music in
their head going and we're not dancing to the same
song people like.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
So it's it is always a treat when you're on
a stage, I would say, probably more particularly on for television.
It's it's it it leans into this problem more.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
But like.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Having a room full of of extras.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Yep, and and and the main cast and everyone has
to dance, and then what happens is they might play
a snippet of a song, which one is not going
to be the song that they actually are going to
use in the episode if there is indeed a song,
and two they're gonna play it for about three seconds,
(37:04):
not long enough to catch a beat or anything, God forbid,
and then they're gonna cut the music and the a
d is going to shout at the top of.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
His lungs and dance.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
And then you're so people stare at you and everyone
else as you as you do things like this whatever
whatever this.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Was, doesn't you know, it makes me nothing in life
after that could really be all that embarrassing? Could it?
Like we were like the SuperFect foundation for just pinnacle confidence.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
So Dwight and I were like sawing lungs.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
We were just going back and forth like this is
all that was happening, and we're trying to talk. Favorite
sweetly admits what we're you gonna say?
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Well, and then and then.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
With with my favorite note, which is Dwight is sexy.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
You forgot hold on.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
You are skipping, you are skipping something. It's important to
acknowledge that Dwight admits being in love with Lucy, that.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
She finds that so.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
She does.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Lucy loves love. Let's be honest. Lucy loves love. She
is the hopeless romantic.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Everything has to be some big gesture, and let's be real.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Jimmy Moon's not really giving it to her, like he's not.
He doesn't, he doesn't profess his love.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
He basically like, you know, he's very sure.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
He's very Jimmy Moon is confident. Okay, he doesn't. He
really is compete.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
But at this moment, Lucy is feeling.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Likes feeling loved, wants to feel appreciated and understood Dwight
made all this effort for a surprise birthday when talk
to her mother, like, you know, she sees all these
things is very sweet, so let's be real, like, but
I do also love that Mary was trying to be
(39:08):
the big sister and trying to like shut Lucy up
and being like Lucy just be quiet, like stop talking,
like stop talking because she knows that the family is
all standing outside the door waiting to give her her gift,
and that she's gonna be embarrassed by what she says.
And what does she say. She says Dwight is sexy, and.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I wrote, I am dying. That's what I wrote, is
like in my notes, and.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
The door who starts laughing.
Speaker 7 (39:39):
Also Simon who comes in and also repeats it, and
and then Lucy's just kind of like h like definitely
doesn't see it.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Sim's so cute.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
And I love like all the gifts, like the who
we pass.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Where I gives her very sweet.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
You know, they take that old trope of making your
family birthday gifts and they actually demonstrate I think, in
the end, maybe the best of that tradition. And again
I was like, I can't believe they pulled it off,
but they did where that the gift giving from us
to you. All the gifts are very thoughtful and very sweet,
(40:25):
and it actually, it actually is a great wayoff for
Lucy's birthday.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
I like Mary's gift my diary. It's not new, and
she's like, I think you're finally old enough to read it.
It's like empty, Like I wrote in two page, well,
I didn't have a lot to write about.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
It wasn't a big.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Year for me.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
It wasn't a big year for me.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
But it's but again, giving something of yours away, if
you're going to give something to Lucy, giving her a
diary is poignant and perfect and so again it's like
they really do hone in on this idea of regifting
as a family, and they do it in a way
that works.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
And I also love that Matt gives her basically like
alofa and soap and deodorant.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
I'm so cute little her little puberty basket there.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
And then the sweet moment from Eric which is a
picture from Dad. Oh wait, I don't want to skip
over Simon's Thirteen Days of Bedmaking, because that's right.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
Simon gives a practical gift.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
And also it's thirteen days because it's her thirteenth birthday.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Oh yeah, you know what. I remember going, why is
it thirteen days? That's like not two weeks. That's like
not that seems strange, But you're right, it's because it's
her thirteenth birthday party and I completely missed that.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah, well you're welcome. And then the locket from mom
to lock it, which is very sweet, which.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
Is and again it doesn't even need to be said
at this point, but Catherine through the whole episode is
wonderful and like on point and sweet, and just watching
her hold the locket in anticipation of giving it to
you Yes, was one of the moments that almost got
me watching this episode.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
It's so tender, and I think what's also nice is
to see this payoff of like all Lucy wanted to
feel is special and to have something memorable, and even
though everything didn't go her way, ended up being even
better than she could have imagined and more meaningful and
(42:36):
more special. I remember shooting this episode and I just
remember like it it wasn't often that we were all
in Mary and Lucy's bedroom, so I just remember this
being like a very like sweet scene that was, you know,
(42:57):
really special, and I think for me, like being an
only child, it was really nice to have this like
moment with all of you guys like it was it
Actually it brought back a lot of memories being like, oh,
I love these people so much, Like I like, what
what a gift that we had that we got to
do all of these these things together. And I mean
(43:18):
that was that was the episode that was with a
little help from my friends, and it was far cuter
and more memorable than I remember. I just again, it's
such a gift for us to be able to like
kind of go back and relive all of these and
and trigger memories that I didn't that haven't been unlocked
(43:41):
in a really long time.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
Yeah, That's That's what I'm enjoying, uh is is just
going into each episode and going, I do remember this,
Wow we did that. Yeah, I remember, I remember this
day on set, or I remember you know it's it's
uh And I'm curious is to see how strong that
memory is over the course of all the years that
(44:05):
we did it. But for the first season, I'm surprised
pleasantly at how much I actually remember about about making it.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
We're really lucky to have these sort of retrievable tidbits
from our childhood that you know, I mean, if not
for being able to rewatch these things, those memories would
probably never happen again for many of us, just lost forever.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Totally agreed.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I think it's and it's also it's now. Not that
it ever was surprising, but I think sometimes it was
hard for me to imagine how the show was so
impactful like it was because we didn't watch it from
a viewers standpoint. We lived it so but now watching it,
I was like, I get why people love this so much.
(44:59):
I get why people connected so much. I understand why
they connected with each one of our characters in the
ways that they did, because.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
It is so.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
There's just so many golden nuggets. And I do have
to say, though, there was a few times in this episode,
because you know Lucy's turning thirteen and Kenzie's twelve, that
there were moments where like I did things on the show,
like I had some reactions or I spoke a certain
way that I like, there were I I'm kind of
(45:37):
freaking out because I feel like she's coming for me.
Because uh, Kenzie naturally does a lot of like lucy things.
And I even told Michael last night, I'm like, dude,
we're in trouble because it's not even like Bev.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
It's like she's We're like leaning towards ras both.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
So two of you guys have children that are like
your characters. So you have overly helpful Lily and you've
got little I've got a little drama. Yeah, I'm scared sensitive.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
I would say she's drama queen. She's she's not a
drama queen. Very sensitive, she's very sensitive. So there's definitely
these moments where like I'm.
Speaker 5 (46:20):
Like, well, yeah, it's coming in that scene where where
Simon comes down exhausted from his his night of fatherly
attention to the puppies.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Uh and uh.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
You know, and I'm and I'm being very expressive and
and and you know, exasperated and all this stuff, and
and Shauna looked at me and she goes, I didn't
know Lily.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
Was in this scene.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
And it's it's just it's so funny because we had
that very same experience watching this episode where it dawned
on us quite clearly that that the parts of ourselves
that come through and the characters can be seen very
clearly in our kids.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
That isn't it. It's nuts. It's so nuts.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Oh my gosh, well that was I think we can
probably wrap this one up with a bow.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
I think we I think we did it. Guys. What
a fun.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
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Speaker 7 (48:00):
I think the
Speaker 4 (48:17):
Early d
Hey, everyone, this is catching up with the Camdens. I
am Beverly Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm David, and I'm because you're also.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
And we're doing things a little differently as you can see,
because we are all in.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Different places right now. But we are so excited.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
That we are going to do another rewatch of season
one chapter Season one, episode twelve with a little help
from my friends.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
And this is a fun episode. Lots of lots of
things are happening.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
So many, so many things.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
As we will get used to, so many things.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
And one of the big things that is happening is
Lucy is turning thirteen and it is a big deal
and she makes it known right from the start.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
That it is a big deal and she has expectations.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You're so hilarious, classic like Lucy over the top like this,
this episode just sums Lucy up so well great.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It does, doesn't it. It's it's she.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I know, honestly, though she's not normally a self centered
as she comes across in this episode. Though it's she
she is.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
But you know what, I think also part of like
Lucy wanting to have like such a special birthday is
being the middle child.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I think she feels like this is her moment, like
this is like her her day, and she just.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Wants it to be perfect and wants it I've seen
see me.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I'm hurd here, I'm burtee. That did not come until
much later.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Trying.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yes, yeah, I think it was. It was definitely, But
I think I also can relate to that. I mean,
I think being an only child, I we've made a
big deal about my birthday.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Did you guys do that?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Like?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Were your birthday terrible? Time? No one wants to do
anything for my birthday, myself included. It's between Christmas and
New Year's which are like things I need strength for,
like and you know, social stamina. I don't my birthdays here.
I'm just like, let's just let's just get gas station food.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Wait, did you have like order as a kid?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Did you have like did you celebrate like half birthdays
like to like so you could have like a summer birthdays?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, And as an adult, every year I tell myself
I'll have a party in June. June comes around, I'm like,
I'm bad at hey, guys, celebrate my birthday now.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
The last birthday or your future birthday birthday?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You know what I think I should. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
It seems like the Camdens in this particular episode are
are particularly old fashioned with the you know, we celebrate
a birthday by by staying home and like drawing pictures
for each other or giving each other things we don't want.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
No, I love the gifts like I think it is
we make, we find or we give away something that
we don't want anymore, and that is and then also
when I love when Jimmy's like, He's like, so, then
I don't have to get you anything. And then of
course Lucy does what Lucy does, which is hangs up
with a hoof.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
This is a star episode for Lucy's crew, Old Jimmy
Moon and Dwight.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, dude, yeah that kid. So when I saw him,
I'm like, oh my god. He reminds me of Chris Farley.
And then I look it up and he ends up
playing young He's in Beverly Hills Ninja as like young
Chris Farley's character, which is ironic and that's also sadly
not where the similarities lie, but it is funny.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
He definitely he had some good lines too, He really
good lines, and I love can we also please talk
about Eileen Brennan, Missus Bink like is just gold in
every scene that she's in and when she's she's trying
to get Matt to like keep her secret that basically
she needs help and just has she kind of like
(04:30):
I also feel like she's got this like kind of
like devilish smile, like she just she loves having like
Matt as her like go to help boy.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Yeah, you can see in missus Bink's character and performance,
you can see it's a very two sided performance because
half of it is the kind of the desperation of
being lost and confused, used in your own space.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah, and then the other half is that is that devilish.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Twinkle in her eye, the signs of the old missus
Bink that everyone knows and expects that has this sassin attitude,
that is that is very and sharp wit. And it
all kind of bubbles up and goes away in each
scene like in little flashes, and it's and it's it's
(05:25):
heartbreaking in a way. Honestly, it's it's a very it's
my favorite performance of the episode for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean, I think I mean Brennan hands
down just such she's just pure gold. And whenever she
came on, she brought something so magical. And I think
also like at the time when we were shooting this
and when we were reading the script, like I didn't
understand the fragility of that.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Time in your life.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And so now as we're older and we're seeing kind
of the people that we love lose.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Those memories or you know, not remembering.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
What they just said, and it's heartbreaking, it's truly heartbreaking,
but like so well done.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
We're dealing with a bit of that right now, and
it's it's it's really crazy to you know, especially what
it's a family member or something you know, just to
see the person that you knew not not be that
person anymore.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It's yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And to feel like your your freedom and your you're
you know, is taken away from from you is tough too.
Like there's the transition between moving, having your independence and
needing help.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
I think that's interesting you bring that up, your freedom
being taken away from you, because there is this element
in the even in the in the show here with
Missus binc there is this resentment that comes from Missus
Bink and it feels like like she's where that she's
(07:02):
losing a piece of herself, some of her freedom, and
she wants to blame it on someone, but there's no
one to blame it on, and so you get this
this flailing which is very sad and very.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Very relatable, you know, where.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
She doesn't really have anyone to blame, so she kind
of lashes out indiscriminately or or blames the one person
who's trying to help her, who's Matt.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Well, and she's fearful that Eric is going to put
her in her home like that Eric, And I think
that at that age, that's where you're kind of scared of,
like max out of like losing that freedom and being
kind of just put away and.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Forgotten the circle coming back to.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So she's so scared, and I think, like, I love though,
the playfulness and what a perfect scene partner in Barry
with Missus Bank because they have this like ongoing fun
but also like you know, Matt trying to keep a secret,
knowing that like he will, and and also like when
(08:09):
Mary comes into to play and kind of is now
brought into this uh secret of keeping Missus Bank kind of.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
The scene safe.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I think the scene a lot of the scenes too
with Matt and Missus bink work because they're both just
so good at comedy too, yes, and they're like on
opposite sides of the spectrum a bit too in some regards,
and it's just it's really really cute. Simon has a
(08:44):
pretty big oh a pretty big thing.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
One of my favorite scenes when one of my favorite
scenes same.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
When when you David, when you come into the kitchen
and you take your stand about for like women's rights.
When but yeah, that was hilarious.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
She's a new mom, Simon. Can we talk about.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
The cutest thing the fact that like you were like
such it was so funny because it's the first time
and I'm like, oh my god, this is.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Like this is what David would be like as he's becoming.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
A dad, like so protective, so like I'm I'm going
to be that partner, Like what do I need to do?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Like so like it was so cute.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
He's like, I don't know, happy's husband, partner owner, I
don't like it was.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
His categorization of please.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
So it is so cute.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
It is literally like I love the the grown up
like Simon in this little body who's like, you know,
he is ready to take on the world and be
the best dad for these puppies.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Extra in this as happy as husband. What what are
we saying? What? Excuse me?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
But the enthusiasm, right, you can't knock the enthusiasm. It's uh,
it is really funny to see, uh, Simon suddenly become,
like you said, such a hyper aware feminist On behalfy
his dog who has never done this before and seriously
can help and support and I need to be there
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for her as the father of these puppies.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It was the cutest thing ever.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
And the over protective nature every time she's like Happy's
let out, like You're like.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
She's she can't be outside.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
It's just like, do.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
You know what was really cunny though that I noticed,
Like there's a one scene where you run in the
kitchen and you're, you know, you're talking about Happy and
Eric and Annay are sitting there and you know they
each say to each other, he gets that from you.
He gets it for you, like you know, they're blaming
the other parent, but in like the sweetest way, like
for the things you do right, And I'm like thinking, like,
(11:07):
don't normally people go he gets it from you, and
you know the kid's doing with it some undesirable behavior displayed,
but I'm like, oh, they're so sweet to each other.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
I still think it was a little bit of like
this this uh, this over the top.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Stuff is yeah, yeah, you know it was sweet.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
No, it's it was all very tongue in cheek and sweet.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yet well don't you find that though as a parent
now that there's sometimes where you look at your kid
and you're like, oh god, that's me or you're like,
oh no, no, that is not that is not me.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
That is all you and and I say this to
each other all the time, but like all the time, Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
It was probably the most relatable parental thing. Uh so far.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I know we got one.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Guy each other credit for like for the good stuff. Yeah, yeah,
it was funny.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I definitely take credit for the good stuff. When the
good stuff then I both ways.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
We do it for the positive things, but it's funnier
for the silly things.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I like that same with Simon and ruth Fie where
they're going over the names for the puppies. I thought
that was really cute.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
It's one of my favorite scenes. So first of all,
I come up with the name Mac.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Was that what it said? Because I replayed it, I'm like,
wait what.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
And then ever ever was it ever ever rested?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
And then I love being Blossom.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Bean Blossom, who can for the wind?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Who can?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Absolutely being Blossom?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
And I'm pretty sure those puppies that we had were
actually my cousin's puppies, so I actually like brought them
because she had just happened to have puppies.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
And those were the puppies that.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
We used, which looked nothing like happy because they were
Australian shepherds happy, you know, father was No, that's very true,
getting around.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
She landed in in the old Camden House, so you know.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
She was she was a shepherd, I guess.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
And then can we please talk about Dwight because you
know Dwight was having a birthday party on Lucy's birthday,
which was like, it was so funny, a big deal
because you know he was planning something.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Having just been introduced. Yeah, just coming through to the house. Yeah,
to come in and sweet talk mom.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
And how about his line kudos on the cookies, Betty
Crocker has nothing on you. I remember I remember when
he said that line, like, I will never forget that.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
As soon as I heard it, I had that like
it struck like lightning where I was like, oh my god,
I remember this.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Kid because I just remember that line of being like
that's okay, like.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
We'll go for it.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
But that's what's so funny about his performance is that
he his performance starts off where he he says everything
kind of sassy and kind of slippery, and there's this
there's this like drag on the way he says everything.
But then by this point in the episode, after seeing
him for a couple of scenes, it all comes across
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as like very like manipulative and he's trying to be
charming and he's it's all just his way of like
like ingratiating himself to everybody, Like oh yeah, So it
comes across as intentional after a while, as opposed to
just you know, in a tick or the way this
kid talks.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, because at the beginning of the when we first
meet Dwight, like he's trying to get everyone to come.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
To his birthday party.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, and like all the girls like basically everyone like
everyone's mean, Like all the girls are like I don't
know who you are, like never in a million years,
Like I'm washing my hair like and then and then
Lucy comes up and apparently like Dwight's Jimmy Moon's best
friend who we've never met before.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Didn't Jimmy Moon look especially sleepy during I feel like,
didn't Jimmy Moon look extra sleepy during some of these scenes?
I thought he often was sleepy, I know, but he
looked extra sticky this time.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Jimmy Jimmy Moon seemed to be his old self to me, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
You know, yeah, maybe it was just standing next to
like Dwight, who's basically like standing on a you know,
auction box, like shouting at people. But yeah, I do
love the fact that he immediately hurls insults and anyone
who rejects him like without even.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Yeah, well it's funny. They paired Jimmy Moon with his
best friend. So Jimmy Moon, who was very unbothered and
seemingly uh, barely aware of things that are happening with
his best friend who.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Is like who's like a sassy kid, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
And I just thought that they're like, it seemed so
intentional to me that they they paired up Jimmy Moon's
kind of unique quirky performance with another unique quirky performance
made them like this this.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Uh yeah, this un likely?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Who yeah, exactly well, And I also think there's a
there's a moment too in the episode where, like I
feel like was not the best moment for Lucy, where
she became very shallow about Jimmy and dwighte not being cool.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
And since now.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Lucy is a cheerleader, obviously she is cool and could
get cool kids to come to her party.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
And obviously as a parent, I was like, oh, man.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Like, but then again, she's turning thirteen, like, of course
all of these things are happening, and of course she's gonna,
you know, not be well.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
I felt both ways about it, Like I was like, oh,
it's Lucy is at the same time very relatable in
the sense that she wants to have her own birthday party,
which is a very reasonable thing to care about at
that age, and she wants to remember You say, I
want to remember this day for the rest of my life,
and you say it like, come on, I'm thirteen, like
(17:15):
it's the most important day ever. So funny and cute
in hindsight, But then you know, at the same time,
you you start to defend yourself on those grounds for
the wrong reasons. Yeah, So you, it's it's cute, and
then it's also like it's come on, there is a
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lesson here for Lucy.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, we've raised you better than that.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Well then right after that moment when you know Lucy
kind of has a slip up, Simon has this This
scene was truly my favorite.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
When you come down to the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
And you're exhausted from being up all night. Yeah, and
the reason why was because you were feeding feeding Happy,
because every time Happy fed the puppies, you fed Happy
because you wanted to make sure that she had enough milk.
That was so sweet and actually like there was there's
(18:14):
something so tender about like Simon's little heart where like
he's so aware, hyper aware, I would say, yes, and
hyper helpful, like it was just oh my god, it's
the cutest scene.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
It is.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
And again, Sean and I say this about Lily all
the time, where people are like, oh, like, is Lily helpful?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
And I'm like, yes, Lily is too helpful.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
And so like that sentiment is exactly what's going on here.
Simon cannot help himself but to be hyper helpful even
if it's uncalled for, and exhausts himself from getting up
through the night with Happy.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Being a doting and worried father.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Again, it's Simon's like conception of this maybe needs a
bit of.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Uh help, But I love that you're.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Mad at Ruthie because Ruthie did not wake up and
did not take part and she didn't take her shift.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
To be fair, I've been mad before because somebody's going
to make to take haven't we like, But.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
It's it's so cute because now that we're parents, like
this scene like is even funnier because now there's it's
so relatable that like you want your partner to like
wake up and like you know, take a shift and
like that bitterness.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Like when you see someone sleeping and you're tired and
you're just like I You're just like so mad. It's
so funny.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
But it's just so sweet as a child trying to
take care of a dog. It's it's I don't think
I saw the magic in it when we were doing it,
because obviously I wasn't on this side of life.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Yeah perspectively.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Now, Oh, it's literally like so freaking cute. I love
this whole storyline for you. It's so fun, it is
very cute.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
So so Simon, I love that it is very Simon
as well to not only put himself in this, in
this predicament that is exhausting him, and it's all it's
all kind of self inflicted, but but then to also
treat Ruthie as his partner, your partner in the crime,
who is disappointing him, even though this is something no
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one signed up for.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
But in Simon's head, it.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
All should work like this, and he's just taking the
paradigm of parenting and over applying it as as he
will often do.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I I love it. It's just it's the cutest thing.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
After this, yeah, we get into a little bit of
what I guess is part of the A storyline or
maybe the B storyline, But it's Eric who is going
out of his way, bending over backwards in fact, breaking
things at the church so that he can help one
(21:17):
of his parishioners who has lost his home, and he's
essentially trying to force work at the church for him
so that he can give him some money and help
him out without making it feel like charity. He's trying
(21:39):
to give him the opportunity to work for things, and
so he's just looking for any excuse to help out
this parishioner. But what surprised me and what I wasn't
quite ready for this early in the show. I obviously
remember that this was a thing, but I didn't realize
it was so quick. In the first season, was that
(22:00):
we we see this parishioner who is living in his
van with his wife and his daughter, and his daughter
is my sister Michelle.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah, when she popped up on my screen, I was like,
Oh my.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Gosh, baby Michelle.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Yeah, it's and the same I did the same thing.
I went, oh, wow, this is Michelle's episode I had.
I didn't realize it was coming up so quick.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I the moment she popped up on screen, I was like,
oh my gosh. I didn't realize it either, So it
was like, oh.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Like, baby Michelle. I've never seen baby Michelle before. I know.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
It's such a trip.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Like I think that's what's so fun about re living
these episodes is these little nuggets that come to surprise us.
It's like we're fully aware that these things happen, but
they kind of pop up when you're just like, wait,
what they.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Were in this episode?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
No, no way, Like, it's it's so fun.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I know, she's so cute, she's so sweet. Her scene with.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Her, she's a couple of lines.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
She did a great job and she's like, I'm not
scared of her.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
So cute. She was very cute and she did a
great job.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
And it's and it's funny too because you know, I
doubt many people even to this day. Uh know that
my sister, you know, did a little guest to parents
on the show and that and that that's.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
My sister Michelle.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
But but I'm the oldest of five kids.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Michelle is is the second.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
She's three years younger than me, so at the time
she must have been eight when we when we did
this episode, give her take and.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
She did great because she's working up against like Eileen
Brennan yep, which is just like so wonderful, and she
held her own. It was a great scene.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Like she's so cute at the because because we skipped
over it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
But after Missus Bank kind of falls because she was
trying to get a can off the and also I
love Missus being Aunt Gladys and calling and getting a
Matt and Mary in trouble.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Yeah, the Aunt Gladys sketch made me laugh.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yet after she breaks her hip and then you know,
we finally get missus Bank home, and like, like Eric would,
Eric finds a way to help a family and to
help Missus Bank feel needed, because I think that's what
the doctor says, is that the biggest thing that someone
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in that stage of life is they need to feel needed.
They don't want to feel insignificant, and they need to
have purpose. And that part of that is like kind
of teeming her with this family in which she can
help them, but she also has like a little mini family.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
There really are a lot of similarities between the beginning
of your life and the end of your life. Like
you know, I was thinking, you know, for for her
losing independence, that's the same. You know, when you're and
you're a kid, all your want is to gain independence
and that's probably why it's so sad when you're losing
it again. But also that they need to feel needed too,
I mean, that's what makes kids happy, you know. Of course, really,
(25:17):
I bet the similarities don't end there, but it's just
still circle sad.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
And the way that the way that this comes about,
it's all kind of orchestrated by Eric, as many events
in the show are kind of in the background as
the puppet master. He's trying to put people in the
right place at the right time so that his plan
can can happen on its own sort of a thing.
(25:43):
But having the family at Missus Bink's house and then
and then Missus Bink trying to trying to ask without
asking that if if they could stay, you know, just
until just until he gets back on his feet or
or I get back on my feet or whatever, and
(26:04):
graduates little exchange. It's very charming and sweet and turns
out to be a great little solution to Missus Bink's
issue because it and they do they make a point
to show that it's not just because the dad is
a handyman and that that's what Missus Bink needs. But
(26:27):
they show the mother helping Missus Bink with her medications,
and then they show the daughter sitting with Missus Bink
and giving her company. And so you see that this
little family, that each member of the family has something
to offer Missus Bink.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
That she needs.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I don't remember seeing this family though in subsequent episodes
with Missus Bank, I remember her. So did they end
up coming in or do they live in her garage?
And we never hear from them because it's not what happens.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Well, like Seventh Heaven done. As we wrap it up,
I think it's.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
Move on from this vignette and move on to other things.
But but I think it's it seems to be a
nice little wrap up for the for the kind of
two main stories of the show to come together at
the end and and uh and and each one solves
the other's issue in a very communal kind of community
(27:27):
focused way.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
It's nice.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
And then we go back to Lucy not wanting to
go to Dwight's party because at the same time, meanwhile, meanwhile,
big things are happening for Lucy and and I. But
before that, though, I think is a very sweet scene
because also the through line, because Eric is helping this
family who has lost everything, is this notion of how
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he didn't raise us right because Lucy is so centered
on like wanting what she wants and not recognize how
much she already has.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
So there's this very big.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Teachable moment, yes where Eric is disappointed in himself and
Lucy I think actually said because he said he failed
as a father, and Lucy says, no, you didn't like
you did teach me the right things, but I haven't
learned them all yet. And I thought that that was
actually very sweet because there's often times where like we
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do instill these lessons and we do these things, and
you know, like not everyone catches on on the first try,
Like sometimes it takes a little bit longer, and it's
that recognition of like one, she does recognize how much
she has, she does recognize how much she's loved, but
she's you know, just having this moment as a thirteen
(28:46):
year old that she wanted something, you know, something special. Meanwhile,
I also I just in my notes, I love that
Ruthie decides like she just wants to give away the
puppies because they don't do anything, because it's this notion
of like, puppies are boring because all they do is
eat and they like sleep when they pick and I
(29:06):
don't like want to I don't want them anymore, and
and and Simon. But then also when Simon talks about
like finding homes for them, Ruthie is also very focused
on the fact that they can't be split up because
it's like, would be like splitting up Ruthie and Simon. Yeah,
and that very sweet line that Simon has do you
(29:28):
remember the line.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I wrote it down because it's so cute what God
has brought us together. Let no man take a part.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Oh that's right, yeah, my little my little Bible quote.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yes, it's which is also just again so sweet because
it's this like you're very this fatherlike figure for these puppies,
and this is really cute.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I think the show and this this is I think
the show constantly showed its strength in demonstrating the voice
of children. Yeah, and so you know, some of it's
some of it's a bit campy or cheesy or you know,
(30:14):
or silly. And but but in the but in the dialogue,
in the way that the kids are perceiving the storylines
that are going on around them, the show really captures
like the innocence of childhood in a way that feels
it feels unique. When I watch it, I just and
it and it does make me smile. And that's sometimes
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it's a sweet smile, and sometimes it's like a cringey smile,
and sometimes it but but it always, it always does
have that effect of making me go like, ah, that's
so funny that.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
They wrote the kids like that.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
You know that the kids have this very unique innocent perspective,
and and they they did a great job with that
over the course of the show, I think.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
And did you guys guys notice that when there's a
scene in the middle school hallway and that was a
true that's when we didn't have these We didn't have
the hallway set yet, so.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
We were in a real school.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Yeah, you could tell when we were outside when when
they're shout, when Dwight shouting at kids and stuff. That
was like the university school that we shot at for
a while.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
No, that wasn't university yet.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
That was the one over in North Hollywood, the little
I forgot the name of it, but it was like
right around the corner from the church.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Yeah, it was near the church. Yeah, and there was
a school that we used in the beginning for a while. Yeah,
and we would shoot outside inside you know. But h
but I do. I did notice that. I went, oh, yeah,
this is when we when we used a location.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
For this, I know, yeah, we used a location for
the exterior and the.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Interior, which was definitely like didn't happen like further on
in the seasons when we dive deeper into the show.
I also, uh, when Jimmy reveals that he is throwing
a surprise party for Lucy, but like Lucy ruined it,
which is also again a total like typical Lucy storyline
where like something good was meant for her and she
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totally like messed it up.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Yeah, that reveal was and it's uh, it's and Jimmy Moon,
of course, just lays it out to you in a
way that where you're like, oh, man, yeah, he tried,
he tried to do something sweet for you. Maybe the
effort was not obvious to all, but it was there.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
So then we go and we go out to dinner
like as we do as a family, and we have
our family dinner and you know when something's I forgot
where they talk about like a gift or something, and
she said she learned. This is what Lucy says, I
learned a lesson and that's a present from life.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
It is.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It's funny because I feel like sometimes like there's these
very strange moments where like Lucy will say something that
is like it makes sense, but it's still a little
like because I don't feel like she's all that wise.
I feel like Lucy's still like struggling to figure it
all out, especially at thirteen and then wham bam, we
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have a surprise party.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Well, again, the kid's voice, right, is not a perfect
perspective with all the information that you would need to
make the same decisions an adult would make. Yeah, but
it's the They do a good job at a kind
of giving us all our unique kid's voice that means
well and gets things wrong and stuff, you know. But yeah,
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we come home from a dinner out, which is a
much more normal way I think normally to celebrate a birthday,
right to have to have dinner out. And then we
come home to a a very dark house. And then
we walked through the dark house and you can immediately
tell right there you go, here it comes and then
the lights kick on and lo and behold, all of
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Lucy's friends are present.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
For boys and girls, boys and.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Girls, boys and girls because it's a boy girl.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Wanted it's a boy girl party that she's too young for.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Maybe, but but here we go.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yes, And it was funny too because I didn't realize
that Mela was Mela Cunas was in this episode.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Because Ashley comes back.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Actually dancing with an older woman.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yes, I love that one.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
It's so cute When that part comes up.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
I went, oh, yeah, it's like that's Mela Cutas and
Seana was like it is, yeah, that's Melacunas, and then
I put in my notes amazing dancing.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, oh my god, okay.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I do love also that Lucy acknowledges that she didn't
deserve this, but she's grateful for it. And I also
love that it's the older sister moment with Mary when
Mary's like, yeah, you definitely didn't like she like calls
her out like yeah, there's like she was, There's this
sweetness and then Mary is just definitely like the grounding force,
being like yep.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
But when Lucy made the cheerleader comment to her her disgust,
she was just like.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Yeaes.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
The Mary Lucy dynamic and sisterhood is just like through
and through, like solid.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
It was great.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
But in my notes, I literally wrote, oh MG, the
dancing with Dwight and when White admits to being in
love and it's just this like it's all it is,
is just like arms because I.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
There it was so bad.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
It's so bad.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
If you just enjoy this moment, there's so much amazing
dancing going on to be to be seen. One kid
in the background is doing one of these, Oh my god,
just really aggressively.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Because also keep in mind for the audience to understand,
is that we don't get music, so there's no music
that we're dancing to.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
It's just silent.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
So the people like, everyone has their own music in
their head going and we're not dancing to the same
song people like.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
So it's it is always a treat when you're on
a stage, I would say, probably more particularly on for television.
It's it's it it leans into this problem more.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
But like.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Having a room full of of extras.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Yep, and and and the main cast and everyone has
to dance, and then what happens is they might play
a snippet of a song, which one is not going
to be the song that they actually are going to
use in the episode if there is indeed a song,
and two they're gonna play it for about three seconds,
(37:04):
not long enough to catch a beat or anything, God forbid,
and then they're gonna cut the music and the a
d is going to shout at the top of.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
His lungs and dance.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
And then you're so people stare at you and everyone
else as you as you do things like this whatever
whatever this.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Was, doesn't you know, it makes me nothing in life
after that could really be all that embarrassing? Could it?
Like we were like the SuperFect foundation for just pinnacle confidence.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
So Dwight and I were like sawing lungs.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
We were just going back and forth like this is
all that was happening, and we're trying to talk. Favorite
sweetly admits what we're you gonna say?
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Well, and then and then.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
With with my favorite note, which is Dwight is sexy.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
You forgot hold on.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
You are skipping, you are skipping something. It's important to
acknowledge that Dwight admits being in love with Lucy, that.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
She finds that so.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
She does.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Lucy loves love. Let's be honest. Lucy loves love. She
is the hopeless romantic.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Everything has to be some big gesture, and let's be real.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Jimmy Moon's not really giving it to her, like he's not.
He doesn't, he doesn't profess his love.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
He basically like, you know, he's very sure.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
He's very Jimmy Moon is confident. Okay, he doesn't. He
really is compete.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
But at this moment, Lucy is feeling.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Likes feeling loved, wants to feel appreciated and understood Dwight
made all this effort for a surprise birthday when talk
to her mother, like, you know, she sees all these
things is very sweet, so let's be real, like, but
I do also love that Mary was trying to be
(39:08):
the big sister and trying to like shut Lucy up
and being like Lucy just be quiet, like stop talking,
like stop talking because she knows that the family is
all standing outside the door waiting to give her her gift,
and that she's gonna be embarrassed by what she says.
And what does she say. She says Dwight is sexy, and.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I wrote, I am dying. That's what I wrote, is
like in my notes, and.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
The door who starts laughing.
Speaker 7 (39:39):
Also Simon who comes in and also repeats it, and
and then Lucy's just kind of like h like definitely
doesn't see it.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Sim's so cute.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
And I love like all the gifts, like the who
we pass.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Where I gives her very sweet.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
You know, they take that old trope of making your
family birthday gifts and they actually demonstrate I think, in
the end, maybe the best of that tradition. And again
I was like, I can't believe they pulled it off,
but they did where that the gift giving from us
to you. All the gifts are very thoughtful and very sweet,
(40:25):
and it actually, it actually is a great wayoff for
Lucy's birthday.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
I like Mary's gift my diary. It's not new, and
she's like, I think you're finally old enough to read it.
It's like empty, Like I wrote in two page, well,
I didn't have a lot to write about.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
It wasn't a big.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Year for me.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
It wasn't a big year for me.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
But it's but again, giving something of yours away, if
you're going to give something to Lucy, giving her a
diary is poignant and perfect and so again it's like
they really do hone in on this idea of regifting
as a family, and they do it in a way
that works.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
And I also love that Matt gives her basically like
alofa and soap and deodorant.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
I'm so cute little her little puberty basket there.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
And then the sweet moment from Eric which is a
picture from Dad. Oh wait, I don't want to skip
over Simon's Thirteen Days of Bedmaking, because that's right.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
Simon gives a practical gift.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
And also it's thirteen days because it's her thirteenth birthday.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Oh yeah, you know what. I remember going, why is
it thirteen days? That's like not two weeks. That's like
not that seems strange, But you're right, it's because it's
her thirteenth birthday party and I completely missed that.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah, well you're welcome. And then the locket from mom
to lock it, which is very sweet, which.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
Is and again it doesn't even need to be said
at this point, but Catherine through the whole episode is
wonderful and like on point and sweet, and just watching
her hold the locket in anticipation of giving it to
you Yes, was one of the moments that almost got
me watching this episode.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
It's so tender, and I think what's also nice is
to see this payoff of like all Lucy wanted to
feel is special and to have something memorable, and even
though everything didn't go her way, ended up being even
better than she could have imagined and more meaningful and
(42:36):
more special. I remember shooting this episode and I just
remember like it it wasn't often that we were all
in Mary and Lucy's bedroom, so I just remember this
being like a very like sweet scene that was, you know,
(42:57):
really special, and I think for me, like being an
only child, it was really nice to have this like
moment with all of you guys like it was it
Actually it brought back a lot of memories being like, oh,
I love these people so much, Like I like, what
what a gift that we had that we got to
do all of these these things together. And I mean
(43:18):
that was that was the episode that was with a
little help from my friends, and it was far cuter
and more memorable than I remember. I just again, it's
such a gift for us to be able to like
kind of go back and relive all of these and
and trigger memories that I didn't that haven't been unlocked
(43:41):
in a really long time.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
Yeah, That's That's what I'm enjoying, uh is is just
going into each episode and going, I do remember this,
Wow we did that. Yeah, I remember, I remember this
day on set, or I remember you know it's it's
uh And I'm curious is to see how strong that
memory is over the course of all the years that
(44:05):
we did it. But for the first season, I'm surprised
pleasantly at how much I actually remember about about making it.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
We're really lucky to have these sort of retrievable tidbits
from our childhood that you know, I mean, if not
for being able to rewatch these things, those memories would
probably never happen again for many of us, just lost forever.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Totally agreed.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I think it's and it's also it's now. Not that
it ever was surprising, but I think sometimes it was
hard for me to imagine how the show was so
impactful like it was because we didn't watch it from
a viewers standpoint. We lived it so but now watching it,
I was like, I get why people love this so much.
(44:59):
I get why people connected so much. I understand why
they connected with each one of our characters in the
ways that they did, because.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
It is so.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
There's just so many golden nuggets. And I do have
to say, though, there was a few times in this episode,
because you know Lucy's turning thirteen and Kenzie's twelve, that
there were moments where like I did things on the show,
like I had some reactions or I spoke a certain
way that I like, there were I I'm kind of
(45:37):
freaking out because I feel like she's coming for me.
Because uh, Kenzie naturally does a lot of like lucy things.
And I even told Michael last night, I'm like, dude,
we're in trouble because it's not even like Bev.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
It's like she's We're like leaning towards ras both.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
So two of you guys have children that are like
your characters. So you have overly helpful Lily and you've
got little I've got a little drama. Yeah, I'm scared sensitive.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
I would say she's drama queen. She's she's not a
drama queen. Very sensitive, she's very sensitive. So there's definitely
these moments where like I'm.
Speaker 5 (46:20):
Like, well, yeah, it's coming in that scene where where
Simon comes down exhausted from his his night of fatherly
attention to the puppies.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Uh and uh.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
You know, and I'm and I'm being very expressive and
and and you know, exasperated and all this stuff, and
and Shauna looked at me and she goes, I didn't
know Lily.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
Was in this scene.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
And it's it's just it's so funny because we had
that very same experience watching this episode where it dawned
on us quite clearly that that the parts of ourselves
that come through and the characters can be seen very
clearly in our kids.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
That isn't it. It's nuts. It's so nuts.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Oh my gosh, well that was I think we can
probably wrap this one up with a bow.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
I think we I think we did it. Guys. What
a fun.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Rewatch of with a little help from my friends. And
if you guys want to watch more, please subscribe, like.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
Comment, all the things, and.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Follow us next next time for our next episode of
Catching Up with Camden's.
Speaker 6 (47:39):
Thanks guys, Hey guys, check us out on Patreon for
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Speaker 7 (48:00):
I think the
Speaker 4 (48:17):
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