September 2, 2024 • 41 mins
This week, David, Bev and Mack chat about the best guest stars to appear on 7th Heaven, who made them star-struck, and which A-listers got their big break from the show (spoiler alert: Usher was on the show?!). Oh and the gang discusses that one time Jessica Biel crashed a car on set!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is all your idea, but.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
There's a there's a lot going on in my head
about whether or not I am sane.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Are we shiny?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I mean, I'm sure I was crying. Yeah, my eyelids
are wet. I mean I think.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
So, where's Lisa? Lisa?
Speaker 4 (00:22):
She want makeup artists?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I was like one, I'm like Lisa.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
The name out? I know.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I literally don't remember Lisa. I remember sell Michelle. She
was earlier. She was so cool.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
She was so cool, wasn't she.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
God, I'll never be that cool. Ashley was pretty cool too.
She was also pretty cute.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Ashley.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
It was like first season, other makeup artists marrying what's
his name?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
What Doug? She was married?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
She married?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, then the show was cute too.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Okay, okay, so let's go right in.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Do you remember taking this picture?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Should we introduce ourselves first?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
We need no introduction?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Do you want to introduce you?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
You?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
This is Beverly.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
No. I didn't say introduce me. I'm saying, do you
want to introduce the podcast?
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Okay, yeah, you are listening to Catching Up with the Camdens.
I am a Camden also known as Mackenzie Rosman.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And I am Beverly Mitchell also known as Lucy, and
I am David Gallagher, also known as Simon. By the way,
do you guys still get people that like call you
by your character name?
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah at grocery stores.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Does it turn your head?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I definitely turn my head.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I'm like Lucy, oh hi, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
I also turned my head with someone says Matt because
it sounds like mac, so both two character names.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
That's yeah, that is true.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I have my mask that I wear, which is called
a beard, and it prevents most people from recognizing me.
And the one time since I started wearing my beard
over the past decade, mostly that I had messed it
up and then I had shaved it down to where
I just had like stubble, and the day I shaved
(02:18):
it down, somebody recognized me and I was.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Like, oh god, I need to.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
So I usually don't get recognized, and that's that's what
the beard's for.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Now that we have unearthed you and I have exposed
your current state, yeah, you have been outed, and so
I mean, I do have to say because also up
until now you have never had social media, and so
you've been kind of this ghost.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
I have to shave it against now to go under
the career.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
We have now brought you out of your out from
the hiding.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
So now people, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
It's okay.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
It's good because yeah, because also in nineties, during nineties
con especially when we did that story about our travel troubles,
that's right, yeah, and you were so gracious to offer
to make it a road trip, which.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
We which we should have done.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You know, that would be a podcast all in itself
for us being on a road trip, and then we
add this one in and my god, will it be
an adventure?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I mean, eventually, I'm sure. I'm sure all you guys
love it. We'll just take the podcast on the road.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Let's do it.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I'm good across straight shift road trips, to be honest.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
So Mac and I will get wet, we'll make it.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Diving is covered.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I will have snacks, so we will be covered.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
That's great, that's all. If that's what your job is,
then that's all you need to do.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I mean, I'm also an excellent.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Vaccine, really really good.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You can just ask Michael, we should just.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Get a limo with the screen that you can push
in the last if you're in the back and you
start driving from there the privacy you.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Guys will put.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
No, no, no, that that would be fun.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
We should canvas on the road and.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
We can put you in.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
The storage locker top of the car.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Oh, so are we taking a limo or are we taking.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Like uh road?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
A privacy screen.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
We could take.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I think it needs to be like like like a school,
like a wag.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yeah, I've taken a Winnebago across the country.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It's actually pretty pretty good. My gosh, bad, we can
be I learned how to.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Switch this is probably not switch drivers without stopping.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Okay, I don't think that that is advisable, and I
will say square actually and mam a hen that we
are not doing that.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Yeah, it's probably not with me.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I think that's I think you probably.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Don't want video evidence of doing that.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, and we're certainly not.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
We shouldn't tell everyone, not like a podcasts alleged would
be allegedly theoretically possible.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
But you would never know.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Speaking you could theoretically do that.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, but you know what, I think we the We
did have a few trips and I remember that really big.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Well the last show we wave Goodbye from an r V.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, I was trying to figure out, What did you
guys do that?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
But I couldn't figure creational VI.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
I did you guys?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I think you would.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I think you were already.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, And we had adopted other children at that point.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I remember that for.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Every one of us, two people joined the family.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I mean we definitely brought out to Roxanne. Yes, there was,
there was other ones, and I remember there. I remember
their real names. I don't remember their character names, like Sarah.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I remember Roxanne was Kevin's partner. Yes, Rachel, Yes, she
was great.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
And was Ashley Simpson. We had a lot of really
great guest stars, We really did. We had a lot
of people who like Seventh Heaven was actually their first show. Yeah,
and then they went on big.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Big star that they had big, big stuff before Seventh Heaven.
Like Richard Lewis.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Richard Lewis amazing. He was so wonderful and funny and.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Just like the whole lit up like a light bulb
when he was in the room. Thing. He was just
like he was a room, you know, not of energy.
You never really felt tired after lunch with Richard Lewis
on set.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And you just felt full because he was so he
was like full in the sense that he gave so much,
like he was so genuine, so fun so sweet, yeah,
and so funny.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Liked you. He looked through you, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Well not like like well, not like.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
X ray vision.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
But I just remember, yes, even in conversation, and you
know all the time, basically.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Yes, you always had his full attention when you were
talking to him.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Absolutely, He's one of those people that gave you like
genuine his genuine attention.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
And do you remember Peter Graves.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Oh yeah, voice, yes, it was just the deepest voice
I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I just also remember he was so lovely and so funny,
really funny.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Do you remember those candies that like they had. I
think one of our storylines was that Peter Pie's character
and the Grandma. They would always bring us these candies,
but like we didn't really like them. And I think
they were actually made of like play dough.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
But oh yeah, cause Peter Graves played the.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Current yeah, the colonel.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, and Barbara Rush was his wife grandma grandma.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
What about Graham Graham Jervis Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
No, I was gonna say, I was gonna I talked
about this a bit when we were at nineties Con.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
But but Peter Graves.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
My mom was like super hyped when Peter Graves was
the Colonel and was coming to set. My mom had
a crush on Peter Graves from from Mission Impossible, you know,
from those days. And I remember we, uh, my dad
and I like went to go out and buy a
Mission Impossible VHS tape and he knew at the store
(08:44):
because they were still the stores then, and we uh
we we had gotten Peter to sign it for my
mom and and when he was on set his for
his first episode, like my mom was like what was
excited to come down to set because my dad usually
came to set with me, but when Peter Graves is there,
my mom wanted to be there and like meet him.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
And and he took a picture with.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
My mom and you know, this is all stuff that
she still has and is you know, it was precious
to her.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It's so cool because I also think that I don't
think it was apparent to all of us at the time,
Like how some of these the Caliber and like these
icons that came on the show and like these they
were like Philis Diller.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Like after the fact that I realized, I think.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, it was just but they were so there was
no when they came to said, there was.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Nothing exhausting to It's a huge list of people.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
That did you guys know I knew was on the show.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
I remember. I was like, oh my god, I had
the flashback. It was like Usher was on her show.
That's so cool and he was.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
He was so he's so nice, he's so sweet, and
everybody was so down to earth. That was what was
so cool. It was like, no matter how big of
star anyone was, when they came to set, like everybody
was cool. Yeah, there was like nobody.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Whatsoever. I remember Ed Bagley is electric car.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Oh he had the like he had electric cars when
like nobody knew he had the volts, the GM and
then he had like an electric bike before people had
electric bikes like he had. Like he was so it
was earth Day every day. But yeah, I think, and
(10:40):
I think I'm trying to think of other people that
were on the show, like Sherry Applebee, Jason Bear, so
many people that actually went on to have their own
Carrie Russell who had their own shows on the w B.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
All were guest stars on What was Carrie's character?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Carrie Russell was as she was in trouble, she got married.
There's something Mary got in trouble with Carrie.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Mary got in trouble Mary.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
You know what, it's crazy? Do you remember that Mary
used to be a trouble my gir?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Now?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Who was?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Who were you most starstruck by? Who came on the show?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Would you say, I'm gonna think about that Usher? Yeah, sorry,
don't need to.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
David didn't even realize on the show, so he show.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
And now that would be the easy answer for me
because I was a hip hop head. I loved hip
hop and and I love Usher's first two records, like
especially back then.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Man, I knew Richard was a big deal.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I knew like that Ed was like the green leader
of the times. I knew that Phyllis was a big deal.
She was so funny.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
She was so funny.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Peter, what about you, Beth.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I don't know that I was ever really starstruck. I
think the only time that I've ever really I would
say I've been starstruck was an experience that I got
to experience because of Seventh Heaven. When I went to
the wb Radio Music Awards and I got to meet
Garth Brooks and I forgot my name, and I just
remember just being like, uh, like I just I think
(12:13):
I just stared blankly, like looked like a complete psycho
with my mouth like wide open. And I actually have
a picture of me just like doing this, and I
think he was like he was so nice and he
was like, so again, I'm sorry I missed your name,
and I'm like, uh, Beverly, and I couldn't Like, I
was like, I was just such a mess. And I
just remember like being that was like my starstruck moment,
(12:36):
which was because of Seventh Heaven, because had I not
been a part of the WB I never would have
been at the Radio Music Awards and I never would
have met my country star hero, but I haven't on
the show. I think it was I felt like because
it was like our world, like I never felt like
I don't know, I felt like everyone just kind of
fit in with us.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Definitely.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, I mean it was I think for me the
the person that because also we were so young that
a lot of it kind of was over my head,
the people that were coming, you know, the rotating door
of people that would come through and and and work
with us. But Peter Graves, like you said, he had
that he had the distinctive like deep voice, and he
(13:19):
was he was I remember distinctly, like his presence on set. Yes,
he had a distinct presence that you could feel on
the set, and and I remember more things like that,
you know, but but I was too young to know
(13:40):
much about his career at the.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Time other than that, like, you know that my mom.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Was really excited that he was coming onto the show,
and that, like many of the adults, were very taken
by him and excited.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Remember Julie, Eric's Strunk's sister.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Yes, what, Yeah, I remember that. That was my Yes,
she was cool. Yeah, she like attacked me, Yes.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
That was the I remember a bit about that, her
attacking me because I did I take her.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Because you were you were I hit her liquor and
hit the liquor.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I would have attacked you too, then.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Deserved it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Speaking of influences, do you also have you guys seen
the heart Rob Anderson jokes about Seventh Heaven and the
ice smoke Pot.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
With I have seen it.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It's yeah, hilarious, totally where he kind of dissects some
of our Yeah, they're really funny. There are there. It's
a blast and also scary watch, but it's so fun.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I've seen clip. This is the social media, rightfully, so
I've seen clips well deserved. When that started a few
years ago, I guess now. I don't remember when, but
I do know that when that kind of came up,
I had people sending me clips of that. I didn't
I wasn't because I'm not on the social I didn't
(15:13):
catch it in real time, but I did have people
sending me.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Also, how do you feel if I told you that
I created a social media I count on behalf of
you me. Yeah, I'm gonna me yeah for.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
You, thanks.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And I you know, just the people just yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
What I was asking for?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
You know, you can have it removed by saying so
and so.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I had to do that. That helped me out.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
I don't know where they got all these pictures of
me as a kid.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Well, I'm not going to post like pictures of you
as a kid. I'll just like post you.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Know, she's just gonna look through your window.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
You make me sound like I'm a creeper.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I mean, I just I'm more just I appreciate.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Can you in mind too?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I can barely run my social I'm trying, but you know,
you know, I think it's sad, it's it's it's fun
being able to reconnect with the fans and kind of
see the constant love, which I'm so grateful for because
I mean, that's the craziest thing about it is, after
all these years, the love is still there. You know,
(16:31):
we're excited because we're all going back to nineties Con
and we're gonna be in Daytona, Florida. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
When you call me about nineties Con, you were like, yeah,
they're doing a nineties con And I was like, did
that does.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Anyone did they really want us to?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I was like that for you?
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Sure? She's like, yeah, it's gonna be It's gonna be great.
And I was like, okay, I have to say I
also not sure.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Thank you guys, because I also felt like I I
felt so bad calling everyone because it was like, hey,
so there's this thing I think we should do it.
Who wants to come and trying to get you and
make that phone call to everyone, And Catherine of course
was like I think She said no, and I was like, okay,
well I'll call you back. And then I called her
(17:18):
back and I was like, so I really think you should.
And then finally she's like begrudgingly like said yes, and then.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
I think she had the best time ever.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, and I think it was really fun. But it
was also I remember because I had gotten a hold
of Mac and I got a hold of Berry and
I got a hold of Catherine, and I was like,
I'm gonna have to dig deep to try to find
David and then you're like, yeah, same number. And I
don't know why I thought you changed it. I was like,
(17:53):
he's the hardest one to get to and you were like,
probably the easiest, and you're like, yeah, sure, bev oh yeah,
just tell me where to go.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Like, all right, are you sure? People want to? I
just can't. I mean, I guess it's the theme.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
And apparently they loved us so much that we get
to go back to daytime.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, which it definitely blew out my expectations of, you know,
the kind of response that I expected. I didn't expect
it to have. It's such a big positive experience. I mean,
I don't know what I expected. Honestly, It's been so
long for me kind of interfacing in that way I.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Had forgotten with the career.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I had forgotten, you know what I mean, Like i'd
kind of just live in a different world now, and
so like coming back to it and interfacing with the
fans was actually great.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
It felt really good.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
It's nice to you know, to have everyone be excited
to meet us and to hear what the show meant
to people.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
That was like that, yeah, that's me. That's such really rewarding.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
What was the question that you got asked the most?
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Why didn't we go on a road trip? That's I'm
not kidding.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Most people who came to my booth wanted to talk
to me about our videos of us getting our flight
delayed and struggling to make it out there on our trip,
and then they were.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Like, you guys, should have did the road trip whatever,
and tell her the road trip.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
By the way, you did tell like and a lot
of people.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
We should have done a road trip.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
But just for just for everyone to understand, we took this.
We got to Dulls and then if we road trips
to Hartford, Connecticut.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
From Dulles was a very long drive. It wasn't four
or five it was like seven hours, and it was
through a lot of stage and we also then had
to rent a car, which, by the way, we were
at some ungodly hour anyway, which I didn't even know
if we were going to be able to get a rental.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Car, and then I didn't try, and then tried, but
the who the Caroline took care of us. They gave
us a hotel we could sleep, and then we were
getting on the next and we would have we kind
of would have gotten there the same time as we
did on.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, but it was so bad, like you know kind
of sleep where like you go to the hotel airport
and you have to like lay there for like a
very few, like not enough hours and then get right
back up and get back rather.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Be in a car with me for seven hours.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I mean, I was ready at the time. It sounded
like a great idea. We could have just like rode
that momentum all the way to nineties.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
It was I mean, it sounds like she knew herself
and you might not be.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Sitting here today.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Is that I didn't like David to then block my
phone number right trying to do so.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Oh, you would have fell asleep in the car and
I would have got.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Us there, and our relationship it would have been fun.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
And I mean, granted though after so many years together.
You know what's funny is I thought like I held
myself together pretty well, but I realized very quickly that
you guys all had my number and understand me better
than I think I understand myself. Sadly, I think that's
what I've kind of figured out. I think the only
child in me.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I think I knew you were a parent were going
to go for the road trip from the first I.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Suggested that you knew I was that predictable.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
I knew you weren't at a road trip.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I do like road trip, but I just felt like
sleep is also very important, and I also knew we
had a dog to do that day and we needed
to be on for like the fans, and so I
was trying to.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Be like four hours quality sleep.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
It was definitely not quality.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I mean six hours of the quality road trip.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Definitely Okay, Well, maybe one of these podcasts we will
give the fans what they want and take it on
the road and have them.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Experience the camping.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Wait, but who's driving?
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I think that would be fun. I want to be
a driver.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I don't know that I want to.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
You don't have your license.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Well, i'll get it renewed.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
We'll do it. Aspired when we must deal with that.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, by the way, this morning when we when Mac
and I went to go get groceries, which was that
was an adventure, and then tried to go get some
beauty supplies for this podcast because it matters what we.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Look like about twenty minutes to find translucent powder.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
We did talk to Jess.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
We talked.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
We talked to Jess for a second and she was
about our adult she's together, and.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, she was.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
She was trying to tell us that she would take
care of us, and we just said, wow, what a
reversal of rules.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Jesse, who backed into my school trailer with her Bronco
wasn't a Bronco.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
It was a Subaru. It was Broncho, the big Black.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
No, it wasn't that.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
It was a super That's what that's it was the
Super that she backed into the trailer.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Deep cut sense.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
The Bronco.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
It wasn't that Bronco did not go into the It
was a super Bowl. I remember because it was the
episode where my friend passed away and I was doing
a deeply emotional scene inside and I was crying and
it's so crazy that no, that Lucy was crying crazy
and Matt and Jesse came a flying onto set and
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was like a mess, and we were trying to figure
out what had happened. And it was because she crashed,
crashed into the school.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Trailer, into the school trailer when she.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Was trying to back it up.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
It was a stick and it was she missed the clutch.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
The stage that we were on, we had you it was.
It wasn't a sound stage, first.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Of all, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, it was shower door factory correct, yes, yes, And
so you would look like in the afternoon you would
see little rays of sunlight coming in and shining like
it just had holes in the ceiling.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Yep. They had to put out buckets when it rained.
Oh yes, I swear.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
You would think that we were on a sound stage somewhere,
But it was all lie. We were in this factory
building and we had to stop because we had It
was great because we were in our own.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
World, but we were also underneath the Santa Monica Airport,
so we were also.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Stopped for planes.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Every single plane, which was which is about once every
like you would get no three or four minutes and
a plane would go by, and then you had like
three or four minutes before and like, so a long
scene would take up most of that time, and if
we were doing a serious like dining room scene or
one of those scenes where we were all by the
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front door, like we would just have to take a plane.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Like all of those plane stops cost the production.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Over the course of the eleven I think we.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Got running good at it. I think, to be honest,
all yeah, it got to the where we kind of knew.
I remember in scenes like I would be like I
would just pause, wait, know that the plane was coming,
wait for the plane to pass, and then going back
into it was so like we I think we we
would need the planes into our scenes.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
We didn't even have to stop it.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
We never because I remember telling like directors, I'm like,
just do not cut. We got this, yeah, do not.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
But that's all beside the point where we were talking
about the trailer. You would you would pull into the
back of the lot and then there was a spot
by the by the train tracks.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Where we all would park our cars.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
And then right across from where we parked our cars
were the trailers that were dedicated for for the schooling. Yeah,
so you know you had your own trailer.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
I had my own trailer. And then you and Jesse
share a trailer.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
So you guys, because because because Jesse and I shared
a teach.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Right, yeah, exactly, so, so that the school trailers were
were kind of where where the cars were parked.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
And on that day, I guess.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
She was trying to she was trying to. Yeah, she
was trying to back the car out and like, and
she did not do it successfully. She's probably not going
to be thrilled with this story, but I do have
to say it was. I mean, and when when she
backed into it, it wasn't like it was like it
literally knocked the trailer.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
There was a sizeable dent.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
It was off the support.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
It was like it.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Was trail legs.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Remember they were like motor homes.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Like they were like the school bungalows were like you know, yes,
all lot of schools in California. Half of your classes
you're in, Like these.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
These were not on the ground. They were lifting the yea.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Definitely they were blue too brown.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
There they were blue.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I remember blue, blue, weird, I remember brown.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Never.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I'm sure I have a picture I will dig up
of art.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
And then it was or Susie.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Or Cheryl and ask them what color our trailer was.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Actually Science Bob. Those are teachers were our teachers.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
And Science Bob who is our science teacher, Science Dear Donnie.
We had so I mean, it's crazy to think of
how much time was also spent in those trailers, you know,
trying to Because being a child's being a child actor,
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we were required by law to have at least three
hours of school work a day unless you banked hours,
which meant you did extra hours of schooling and then
you could get by with the minimum of one hour.
I remember it was my mission to bank as money
as humanly possible because I'm psycho and Jesse was always
(27:59):
in the death to sit and I always had more
hours based of school the black market for school, and
Jesse always was just like, what is your problem? And
I was like, I I'm gonna do so many hours,
and I like I was. I was such a nodle.
The fact that you guys even put up with me
looking back is quite shocking because I and the fact
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that Jesse still like speaks to me is again shocking
because I was not lovely.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
I don't remember the banking of hours, but I would
go days off when I didn't.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
I vaguely when I didn't have like.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Of hours, Like I don't think I ever really got
three hours a day. I would get it had to
be a minimum of a twenty minute increman, because you know,
it's kind of fair to get in.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
School and you need at least twenty minutes to do anything.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Five minutes to settle down, and I would try to
get the whole twenty minutes to just get like, you know,
talking about something unrelated to school.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Just try to say.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I was also going to the article in the New
York Times today I was doing.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I was at a college preparatory, and I remember just
like just trying to be I felt like it was
my I absolutely had to get into college because that's
what you do, even though I was working full time
and I was like so panicked about like falling behind, and.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I just.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, I was definitely the overachiever. And I don't know
that it really worked out for me.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Oh I think it works well. I just feel like I.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Feel like this whole experience right now and being on
this podcast with you guys is really making me realize
that I'm wound a little tight and I could like.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Be unwaped. That's what the road trips for.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, I feel like that also just makes me wind tighter.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
Yeah, for some reason, it's good.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
It's actually causing me.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
But I went to the same high school that you
went to, the College Prep, and I remember when because
I remember that you had kind of pitched that I
should go there, and I was like trying to figure
out where to go because the high schools where I
live were not private, and public schools are kind of
(30:20):
based on their attendance based and obviously my attendance on
paper is very poor, even though every day I was
doing school even if I wasn't there, and so the
public schools where all my friends went I could not
go to.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
And then you were like.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Oh, and your school was pretty far away from where
I lived, but I would drive down there to go
to that school, and I remember the thing that sinsed
it for me was that was that that school was
known for high turnout to USC. And my goal even
from before high school, was that I was going to
go to USC Film School, And so that was kind
(30:57):
of like the momentum leading up to you were towards
the end of the show where I had kind of
bowed out early was because I had made it and
I'd gotten into USC and you know, didn't go to
other schools that I could have that I got better
kind of rides to and could have you know, could
have gotten probably more focused film educations at but I
(31:21):
was like, Nope, USC said I can go, and I
don't care.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I also got into USC, but I only got in
second semester and I'm like, what am I supposed to
do for the first semester? So I ended up coming
to l m U and I got into the Film
school here, which was fun, but like, yeah, I think
my goal was also USC film School all the way
because back.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
In that was like that it was like the gold standard. Yeah,
crazy school of Spielberg.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
And I realized when having gone to film school, or
let me be clear, I would say not really went
to film school. Had a few classes at the film
school because I didn't succeed in finishing. Was also just
the what we learned being on set and being with
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people while we're doing it every day was the best
film school anyone could ever ask for. Because I remember
this about you too, is like we were all like
asking to like be behind the camera, asking like the
grips and electric like what are you doing? Like all
(32:28):
the gaffers. Like I just remember being there with everyone,
like being on set and like immersing myself.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
In every Do you guys remember I used to do
this with Ronnie all the time. So Ronnie, Ronnie High
was our camera operator and then eventually on the show
was our director of photography. And when he was camera operator,
he used to do and used to let me do
it all the time where he would do figure eights.
Do you guys remember doing that? Yeah, with the wheels,
So the cameras operated with these two wheels. There's a
(32:56):
kind of like a nodding wheel and h uh left
and right wheel and if and if you would, I remember,
you would like roll them in kind of this sequence
and you would get the camera to do figure eights.
And that was he would sit there between takes and
just do that and like as like a kind of
(33:17):
you know, uh, without thinking, just kind of like a practice.
And I would I remember asking all the time that
I could sit there and do that and trying to
get that right.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
My favorite memory of Ronnie High was the game that
we would all play with trying to make him laugh
so hard that he would shake the camera.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
And that is when I knew like some of the
best stories.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Yes, in the camera box too, remember the collection of
every flavor TikTok. You could have camera box in front, yeah, Keith, yeah,
Keith yeah. Mike had them too. And then they had
like these little white wax pencils that they would use
to make marks on the camera with and they would
let me like doodle all over the side of the dogs.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
That was the focus focus puller, the camera operator. And
then right next to the camera operators, your focus puller
who will sit there and pull focus measure to everybody
so that he can get the focus as the camera
looks at different people and the.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Camera tape measure. Now they don't use tape measures.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Sure, back then it was an analog.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
The sound of the tape measure unwinding and coming close
to my ear and it's like, oh yeah, remember we
used to pull.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Temple basically, but just that sound of.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Like so that the focus could be on your eyes
and that was the important thing that had to be
in focus.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
You remember also the map boxes. I used to remember
like writing notes on the map with the white pencil
and write like like there are little like love letters
to each other and like just like fun or goot.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Sometimes they weren't dueling on the camera a bunch of kids,
and it was but it was.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Always so fun and like, yeah, but honestly, from our perspective.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
It's fun so hard when he like, I think we
definitely made him cry a few times because we made
it because he would he would try so hard not
to move, and he would then shake the entire camera
and we would we would ruin a take.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
We would get some inside jokes going or something that
was funny, and then we'd all have to kind of
like pull it together and and do the scene and
take a deep breath and whatever. But if we could,
if you could just kind of keep keep it going
just enough, you would get Ronnie to start laughing. And
he couldn't obviously make any noise, so he'd be clenched up,
holding in his best he can, trying to operate the camera,
(35:33):
but he'd be shaking like this, like trying not to laugh,
and then we would we would blow takes doing that.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
All, and it was just like that was like the
greatest joy.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Yeah, it was amazing.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
That was when you had really known that like you
were funny.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
It made you feel very pleasure exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
That's amazing, Yes, exactly, but then if Ronnie wasn't laughing,
then you're like also, like, even though Seventh Heaven was
a family drama, like there were a lot of funny moments,
it was kind of.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Well, yeah, there was plenty of stuff in the show
that was intended to be funny, and then there was
plenty of stuff on the show that was not intended
to be funny that was very funny.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yeah, especially was a different thing, especially looking at the
in retrospect.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Sure, a lot more of it is funny, but but
but there was definitely stuff that we had done that
was gags and things that were supposed to have punchy,
comedic timing to it.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Yeah, well, even in those clips we were watching of
the pilot last week, that there.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I would definitely have to say. I mean, obviously I'm
not to toot our own hordes, but I would definitely
say that we had the best comedy. Did I miss something?
I felt like I did I miss something?
Speaker 5 (36:45):
No, I don't think I think I did. It's fine.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I feel like this is this is also this is
feeling reminiscent of like something going right over my head
that I like not paying attention to.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
I was trying. I was.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Last week when we were watching clips from the show.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
I noticed that how funny it was, Okay, thirty scenes
from the show that were unintentionally funny that your friends or.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Someone like called out.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I mean, I think that there were moments on the
show for sure where I was in that teenage year
where I thought I was like borderline trying to be cute,
sexy and trying to be something that clearly wasn't.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Should we tell them about what like the summer you
came back with like.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Boobs, and I just want you make it sound like
I like went out and bought them.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
I know, I grew.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
They were like a natural progression. It's called puberty.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I know this, but you did it very well.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
You pubertized excellently, pubertized, Sorry.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
I do.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
It's a word, and I just spit it up.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
So bad comes back and she's just got this amazing
cleavage right, And I delivered like every single one of
my lines straight into Bev's chest.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
That was a problem.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I remember being like Mac, I like, stop looking at
my I don't know what it was like.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Gravitational pull was doubt, but it was also eye level
for me.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
In my defense, I know you were.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
I do remember that.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
I do remember.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Really it was strange that like you were the one
person who had the obsession with my check.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Well, I was obsessed with boobs like from an early age,
and that it is really excited to grow my own
and really happy for you that you grow them.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Well, yeah, yes, because I was a late bloomer, and
unlike Lucy who got her period very early on, I
didn't mind till I was kind of bloomer.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Sorry, yeah you know, but yeah, that actually.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Awkward moments where like I had thought, like I was
so cute, and I like was so excited about wardrobe
and IM remember like being with Sheryl and the fittings
are fittings and like picking out my outfits and like
really trying to take control of my character. Which these
phase And then I had this one phase where I
(39:15):
like juicy.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Do you remember the juicyge I had.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Every single every color of jumpsuit.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I had every Rocket dogs.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Didn't you have some of those?
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Or no? I you know, rocket dogs weren't good for
me because I kept tripping and I kept like almost
breaking my ankle.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I remember like really being so much younger than everybody
else and like wanting to dress.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
I missed that one that wasn't the platform sandals.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
I guess I was because I was like four foot four,
so the platform sandals were good for me clutch, I
could ride the roller coasters.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
The other thing that was always so crazy. Lucy's boyfriends
were always very tall, so like I was always standing
on apple boxes.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
So I still to this day, with my like current
and all my personal relationships, I need an apple box,
not only have one personal relationship now. But you know,
I'm just saying it's a thing like short people. It's like,
I think it's nature's way of wanting you to have
normal sized children.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
You know, like you're short and then you're mating specimen.
We have a normal sized child.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
I mean, I hope my children are normal sized.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
But you're a normal You're not like on sub five
feet though I'm five to two. Yeah, you're you're average
to tall.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
You call me average?
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Oh, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
I'm just no, Michael's like normal, heided.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
I'm not saying everyone is like five nine ten. Yeah,
you guys, your children are perfect.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
They're tiny, but that's fine, are they?
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Mine's gonna probably outgrow me, Like next year but whatever,
that's fine, it's okay.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Well, I think we covered a lot on this episode. Yeah,
I think that we're gonna wrap this episode up. If
you guys want to listen to more, join us on
next episode of Catching Up with the Campidons
This is all your idea, but.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
There's a there's a lot going on in my head
about whether or not I am sane.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Are we shiny?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I mean, I'm sure I was crying. Yeah, my eyelids
are wet. I mean I think.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
So, where's Lisa? Lisa?
Speaker 4 (00:22):
She want makeup artists?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I was like one, I'm like Lisa.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
The name out? I know.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I literally don't remember Lisa. I remember sell Michelle. She
was earlier. She was so cool.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
She was so cool, wasn't she.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
God, I'll never be that cool. Ashley was pretty cool too.
She was also pretty cute.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Ashley.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
It was like first season, other makeup artists marrying what's
his name?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
What Doug? She was married?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
She married?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, then the show was cute too.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Okay, okay, so let's go right in.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Do you remember taking this picture?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Should we introduce ourselves first?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
We need no introduction?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Do you want to introduce you?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
You?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
This is Beverly.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
No. I didn't say introduce me. I'm saying, do you
want to introduce the podcast?
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Okay, yeah, you are listening to Catching Up with the Camdens.
I am a Camden also known as Mackenzie Rosman.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And I am Beverly Mitchell also known as Lucy, and
I am David Gallagher, also known as Simon. By the way,
do you guys still get people that like call you
by your character name?
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah at grocery stores.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Does it turn your head?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I definitely turn my head.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I'm like Lucy, oh hi, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
I also turned my head with someone says Matt because
it sounds like mac, so both two character names.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
That's yeah, that is true.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I have my mask that I wear, which is called
a beard, and it prevents most people from recognizing me.
And the one time since I started wearing my beard
over the past decade, mostly that I had messed it
up and then I had shaved it down to where
I just had like stubble, and the day I shaved
(02:18):
it down, somebody recognized me and I was.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Like, oh god, I need to.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
So I usually don't get recognized, and that's that's what
the beard's for.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Now that we have unearthed you and I have exposed
your current state, yeah, you have been outed, and so
I mean, I do have to say because also up
until now you have never had social media, and so
you've been kind of this ghost.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
I have to shave it against now to go under
the career.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
We have now brought you out of your out from
the hiding.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
So now people, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
It's okay.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
It's good because yeah, because also in nineties, during nineties
con especially when we did that story about our travel troubles,
that's right, yeah, and you were so gracious to offer
to make it a road trip, which.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
We which we should have done.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You know, that would be a podcast all in itself
for us being on a road trip, and then we
add this one in and my god, will it be
an adventure?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I mean, eventually, I'm sure. I'm sure all you guys
love it. We'll just take the podcast on the road.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Let's do it.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I'm good across straight shift road trips, to be honest.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
So Mac and I will get wet, we'll make it.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Diving is covered.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I will have snacks, so we will be covered.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
That's great, that's all. If that's what your job is,
then that's all you need to do.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I mean, I'm also an excellent.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Vaccine, really really good.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You can just ask Michael, we should just.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Get a limo with the screen that you can push
in the last if you're in the back and you
start driving from there the privacy you.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Guys will put.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
No, no, no, that that would be fun.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
We should canvas on the road and.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
We can put you in.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
The storage locker top of the car.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Oh, so are we taking a limo or are we taking.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Like uh road?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
A privacy screen.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
We could take.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I think it needs to be like like like a school,
like a wag.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yeah, I've taken a Winnebago across the country.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It's actually pretty pretty good. My gosh, bad, we can
be I learned how to.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Switch this is probably not switch drivers without stopping.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Okay, I don't think that that is advisable, and I
will say square actually and mam a hen that we
are not doing that.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Yeah, it's probably not with me.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I think that's I think you probably.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Don't want video evidence of doing that.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, and we're certainly not.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
We shouldn't tell everyone, not like a podcasts alleged would
be allegedly theoretically possible.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
But you would never know.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Speaking you could theoretically do that.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, but you know what, I think we the We
did have a few trips and I remember that really big.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Well the last show we wave Goodbye from an r V.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, I was trying to figure out, What did you
guys do that?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
But I couldn't figure creational VI.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
I did you guys?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I think you would.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I think you were already.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, And we had adopted other children at that point.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I remember that for.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Every one of us, two people joined the family.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I mean we definitely brought out to Roxanne. Yes, there was,
there was other ones, and I remember there. I remember
their real names. I don't remember their character names, like Sarah.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I remember Roxanne was Kevin's partner. Yes, Rachel, Yes, she
was great.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
And was Ashley Simpson. We had a lot of really
great guest stars, We really did. We had a lot
of people who like Seventh Heaven was actually their first show. Yeah,
and then they went on big.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Big star that they had big, big stuff before Seventh Heaven.
Like Richard Lewis.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Richard Lewis amazing. He was so wonderful and funny and.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Just like the whole lit up like a light bulb
when he was in the room. Thing. He was just
like he was a room, you know, not of energy.
You never really felt tired after lunch with Richard Lewis
on set.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And you just felt full because he was so he
was like full in the sense that he gave so much,
like he was so genuine, so fun so sweet, yeah,
and so funny.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Liked you. He looked through you, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Well not like like well, not like.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
X ray vision.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
But I just remember, yes, even in conversation, and you
know all the time, basically.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Yes, you always had his full attention when you were
talking to him.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Absolutely, He's one of those people that gave you like
genuine his genuine attention.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
And do you remember Peter Graves.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Oh yeah, voice, yes, it was just the deepest voice
I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I just also remember he was so lovely and so funny,
really funny.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Do you remember those candies that like they had. I
think one of our storylines was that Peter Pie's character
and the Grandma. They would always bring us these candies,
but like we didn't really like them. And I think
they were actually made of like play dough.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
But oh yeah, cause Peter Graves played the.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Current yeah, the colonel.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, and Barbara Rush was his wife grandma grandma.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
What about Graham Graham Jervis Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
No, I was gonna say, I was gonna I talked
about this a bit when we were at nineties Con.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
But but Peter Graves.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
My mom was like super hyped when Peter Graves was
the Colonel and was coming to set. My mom had
a crush on Peter Graves from from Mission Impossible, you know,
from those days. And I remember we, uh, my dad
and I like went to go out and buy a
Mission Impossible VHS tape and he knew at the store
(08:44):
because they were still the stores then, and we uh
we we had gotten Peter to sign it for my
mom and and when he was on set his for
his first episode, like my mom was like what was
excited to come down to set because my dad usually
came to set with me, but when Peter Graves is there,
my mom wanted to be there and like meet him.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
And and he took a picture with.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
My mom and you know, this is all stuff that
she still has and is you know, it was precious
to her.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It's so cool because I also think that I don't
think it was apparent to all of us at the time,
Like how some of these the Caliber and like these
icons that came on the show and like these they
were like Philis Diller.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Like after the fact that I realized, I think.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, it was just but they were so there was
no when they came to said, there was.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Nothing exhausting to It's a huge list of people.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
That did you guys know I knew was on the show.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
I remember. I was like, oh my god, I had
the flashback. It was like Usher was on her show.
That's so cool and he was.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
He was so he's so nice, he's so sweet, and
everybody was so down to earth. That was what was
so cool. It was like, no matter how big of
star anyone was, when they came to set, like everybody
was cool. Yeah, there was like nobody.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Whatsoever. I remember Ed Bagley is electric car.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Oh he had the like he had electric cars when
like nobody knew he had the volts, the GM and
then he had like an electric bike before people had
electric bikes like he had. Like he was so it
was earth Day every day. But yeah, I think, and
(10:40):
I think I'm trying to think of other people that
were on the show, like Sherry Applebee, Jason Bear, so
many people that actually went on to have their own
Carrie Russell who had their own shows on the w B.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
All were guest stars on What was Carrie's character?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Carrie Russell was as she was in trouble, she got married.
There's something Mary got in trouble with Carrie.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Mary got in trouble Mary.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
You know what, it's crazy? Do you remember that Mary
used to be a trouble my gir?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Now?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Who was?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Who were you most starstruck by? Who came on the show?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Would you say, I'm gonna think about that Usher? Yeah, sorry,
don't need to.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
David didn't even realize on the show, so he show.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
And now that would be the easy answer for me
because I was a hip hop head. I loved hip
hop and and I love Usher's first two records, like
especially back then.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Man, I knew Richard was a big deal.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I knew like that Ed was like the green leader
of the times. I knew that Phyllis was a big deal.
She was so funny.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
She was so funny.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Peter, what about you, Beth.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I don't know that I was ever really starstruck. I
think the only time that I've ever really I would
say I've been starstruck was an experience that I got
to experience because of Seventh Heaven. When I went to
the wb Radio Music Awards and I got to meet
Garth Brooks and I forgot my name, and I just
remember just being like, uh, like I just I think
(12:13):
I just stared blankly, like looked like a complete psycho
with my mouth like wide open. And I actually have
a picture of me just like doing this, and I
think he was like he was so nice and he
was like, so again, I'm sorry I missed your name,
and I'm like, uh, Beverly, and I couldn't Like, I
was like, I was just such a mess. And I
just remember like being that was like my starstruck moment,
(12:36):
which was because of Seventh Heaven, because had I not
been a part of the WB I never would have
been at the Radio Music Awards and I never would
have met my country star hero, but I haven't on
the show. I think it was I felt like because
it was like our world, like I never felt like
I don't know, I felt like everyone just kind of
fit in with us.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Definitely.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, I mean it was I think for me the
the person that because also we were so young that
a lot of it kind of was over my head,
the people that were coming, you know, the rotating door
of people that would come through and and and work
with us. But Peter Graves, like you said, he had
that he had the distinctive like deep voice, and he
(13:19):
was he was I remember distinctly, like his presence on set. Yes,
he had a distinct presence that you could feel on
the set, and and I remember more things like that,
you know, but but I was too young to know
(13:40):
much about his career at the.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Time other than that, like, you know that my mom.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Was really excited that he was coming onto the show,
and that, like many of the adults, were very taken
by him and excited.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Remember Julie, Eric's Strunk's sister.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Yes, what, Yeah, I remember that. That was my Yes,
she was cool. Yeah, she like attacked me, Yes.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
That was the I remember a bit about that, her
attacking me because I did I take her.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Because you were you were I hit her liquor and
hit the liquor.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I would have attacked you too, then.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Deserved it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Speaking of influences, do you also have you guys seen
the heart Rob Anderson jokes about Seventh Heaven and the
ice smoke Pot.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
With I have seen it.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It's yeah, hilarious, totally where he kind of dissects some
of our Yeah, they're really funny. There are there. It's
a blast and also scary watch, but it's so fun.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I've seen clip. This is the social media, rightfully, so
I've seen clips well deserved. When that started a few
years ago, I guess now. I don't remember when, but
I do know that when that kind of came up,
I had people sending me clips of that. I didn't
I wasn't because I'm not on the social I didn't
(15:13):
catch it in real time, but I did have people
sending me.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Also, how do you feel if I told you that
I created a social media I count on behalf of
you me. Yeah, I'm gonna me yeah for.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
You, thanks.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And I you know, just the people just yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
What I was asking for?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
You know, you can have it removed by saying so
and so.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I had to do that. That helped me out.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
I don't know where they got all these pictures of
me as a kid.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Well, I'm not going to post like pictures of you
as a kid. I'll just like post you.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Know, she's just gonna look through your window.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
You make me sound like I'm a creeper.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I mean, I just I'm more just I appreciate.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Can you in mind too?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I can barely run my social I'm trying, but you know,
you know, I think it's sad, it's it's it's fun
being able to reconnect with the fans and kind of
see the constant love, which I'm so grateful for because
I mean, that's the craziest thing about it is, after
all these years, the love is still there. You know,
(16:31):
we're excited because we're all going back to nineties Con
and we're gonna be in Daytona, Florida. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
When you call me about nineties Con, you were like, yeah,
they're doing a nineties con And I was like, did
that does.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Anyone did they really want us to?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I was like that for you?
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Sure? She's like, yeah, it's gonna be It's gonna be great.
And I was like, okay, I have to say I
also not sure.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Thank you guys, because I also felt like I I
felt so bad calling everyone because it was like, hey,
so there's this thing I think we should do it.
Who wants to come and trying to get you and
make that phone call to everyone, And Catherine of course
was like I think She said no, and I was like, okay,
well I'll call you back. And then I called her
(17:18):
back and I was like, so I really think you should.
And then finally she's like begrudgingly like said yes, and then.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
I think she had the best time ever.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, and I think it was really fun. But it
was also I remember because I had gotten a hold
of Mac and I got a hold of Berry and
I got a hold of Catherine, and I was like,
I'm gonna have to dig deep to try to find
David and then you're like, yeah, same number. And I
don't know why I thought you changed it. I was like,
(17:53):
he's the hardest one to get to and you were like,
probably the easiest, and you're like, yeah, sure, bev oh yeah,
just tell me where to go.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Like, all right, are you sure? People want to? I
just can't. I mean, I guess it's the theme.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
And apparently they loved us so much that we get
to go back to daytime.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, which it definitely blew out my expectations of, you know,
the kind of response that I expected. I didn't expect
it to have. It's such a big positive experience. I mean,
I don't know what I expected. Honestly, It's been so
long for me kind of interfacing in that way I.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Had forgotten with the career.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I had forgotten, you know what I mean, Like i'd
kind of just live in a different world now, and
so like coming back to it and interfacing with the
fans was actually great.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
It felt really good.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
It's nice to you know, to have everyone be excited
to meet us and to hear what the show meant
to people.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
That was like that, yeah, that's me. That's such really rewarding.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
What was the question that you got asked the most?
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Why didn't we go on a road trip? That's I'm
not kidding.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Most people who came to my booth wanted to talk
to me about our videos of us getting our flight
delayed and struggling to make it out there on our trip,
and then they were.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Like, you guys, should have did the road trip whatever,
and tell her the road trip.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
By the way, you did tell like and a lot
of people.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
We should have done a road trip.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
But just for just for everyone to understand, we took this.
We got to Dulls and then if we road trips
to Hartford, Connecticut.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
From Dulles was a very long drive. It wasn't four
or five it was like seven hours, and it was
through a lot of stage and we also then had
to rent a car, which, by the way, we were
at some ungodly hour anyway, which I didn't even know
if we were going to be able to get a rental.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Car, and then I didn't try, and then tried, but
the who the Caroline took care of us. They gave
us a hotel we could sleep, and then we were
getting on the next and we would have we kind
of would have gotten there the same time as we
did on.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, but it was so bad, like you know kind
of sleep where like you go to the hotel airport
and you have to like lay there for like a
very few, like not enough hours and then get right
back up and get back rather.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Be in a car with me for seven hours.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I mean, I was ready at the time. It sounded
like a great idea. We could have just like rode
that momentum all the way to nineties.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
It was I mean, it sounds like she knew herself
and you might not be.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Sitting here today.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Is that I didn't like David to then block my
phone number right trying to do so.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Oh, you would have fell asleep in the car and
I would have got.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Us there, and our relationship it would have been fun.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
And I mean, granted though after so many years together.
You know what's funny is I thought like I held
myself together pretty well, but I realized very quickly that
you guys all had my number and understand me better
than I think I understand myself. Sadly, I think that's
what I've kind of figured out. I think the only
child in me.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I think I knew you were a parent were going
to go for the road trip from the first I.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Suggested that you knew I was that predictable.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
I knew you weren't at a road trip.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I do like road trip, but I just felt like
sleep is also very important, and I also knew we
had a dog to do that day and we needed
to be on for like the fans, and so I
was trying to.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Be like four hours quality sleep.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
It was definitely not quality.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I mean six hours of the quality road trip.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Definitely Okay, Well, maybe one of these podcasts we will
give the fans what they want and take it on
the road and have them.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Experience the camping.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Wait, but who's driving?
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I think that would be fun. I want to be
a driver.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I don't know that I want to.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
You don't have your license.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Well, i'll get it renewed.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
We'll do it. Aspired when we must deal with that.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, by the way, this morning when we when Mac
and I went to go get groceries, which was that
was an adventure, and then tried to go get some
beauty supplies for this podcast because it matters what we.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Look like about twenty minutes to find translucent powder.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
We did talk to Jess.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
We talked.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
We talked to Jess for a second and she was
about our adult she's together, and.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, she was.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
She was trying to tell us that she would take
care of us, and we just said, wow, what a
reversal of rules.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Jesse, who backed into my school trailer with her Bronco
wasn't a Bronco.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
It was a Subaru. It was Broncho, the big Black.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
No, it wasn't that.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
It was a super That's what that's it was the
Super that she backed into the trailer.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Deep cut sense.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
The Bronco.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
It wasn't that Bronco did not go into the It
was a super Bowl. I remember because it was the
episode where my friend passed away and I was doing
a deeply emotional scene inside and I was crying and
it's so crazy that no, that Lucy was crying crazy
and Matt and Jesse came a flying onto set and
(23:27):
was like a mess, and we were trying to figure
out what had happened. And it was because she crashed,
crashed into the school.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Trailer, into the school trailer when she.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Was trying to back it up.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
It was a stick and it was she missed the clutch.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
The stage that we were on, we had you it was.
It wasn't a sound stage, first.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Of all, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, it was shower door factory correct, yes, yes, And
so you would look like in the afternoon you would
see little rays of sunlight coming in and shining like
it just had holes in the ceiling.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Yep. They had to put out buckets when it rained.
Oh yes, I swear.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
You would think that we were on a sound stage somewhere,
But it was all lie. We were in this factory
building and we had to stop because we had It
was great because we were in our own.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
World, but we were also underneath the Santa Monica Airport,
so we were also.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Stopped for planes.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Every single plane, which was which is about once every
like you would get no three or four minutes and
a plane would go by, and then you had like
three or four minutes before and like, so a long
scene would take up most of that time, and if
we were doing a serious like dining room scene or
one of those scenes where we were all by the
(24:48):
front door, like we would just have to take a plane.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Like all of those plane stops cost the production.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Over the course of the eleven I think we.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Got running good at it. I think, to be honest,
all yeah, it got to the where we kind of knew.
I remember in scenes like I would be like I
would just pause, wait, know that the plane was coming,
wait for the plane to pass, and then going back
into it was so like we I think we we
would need the planes into our scenes.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
We didn't even have to stop it.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
We never because I remember telling like directors, I'm like,
just do not cut. We got this, yeah, do not.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
But that's all beside the point where we were talking
about the trailer. You would you would pull into the
back of the lot and then there was a spot
by the by the train tracks.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Where we all would park our cars.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
And then right across from where we parked our cars
were the trailers that were dedicated for for the schooling. Yeah,
so you know you had your own trailer.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
I had my own trailer. And then you and Jesse
share a trailer.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
So you guys, because because because Jesse and I shared
a teach.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Right, yeah, exactly, so, so that the school trailers were
were kind of where where the cars were parked.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
And on that day, I guess.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
She was trying to she was trying to. Yeah, she
was trying to back the car out and like, and
she did not do it successfully. She's probably not going
to be thrilled with this story, but I do have
to say it was. I mean, and when when she
backed into it, it wasn't like it was like it
literally knocked the trailer.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
There was a sizeable dent.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
It was off the support.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
It was like it.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Was trail legs.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Remember they were like motor homes.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Like they were like the school bungalows were like you know, yes,
all lot of schools in California. Half of your classes
you're in, Like these.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
These were not on the ground. They were lifting the yea.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Definitely they were blue too brown.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
There they were blue.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I remember blue, blue, weird, I remember brown.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Never.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I'm sure I have a picture I will dig up
of art.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
And then it was or Susie.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Or Cheryl and ask them what color our trailer was.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Actually Science Bob. Those are teachers were our teachers.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
And Science Bob who is our science teacher, Science Dear Donnie.
We had so I mean, it's crazy to think of
how much time was also spent in those trailers, you know,
trying to Because being a child's being a child actor,
(27:38):
we were required by law to have at least three
hours of school work a day unless you banked hours,
which meant you did extra hours of schooling and then
you could get by with the minimum of one hour.
I remember it was my mission to bank as money
as humanly possible because I'm psycho and Jesse was always
(27:59):
in the death to sit and I always had more
hours based of school the black market for school, and
Jesse always was just like, what is your problem? And
I was like, I I'm gonna do so many hours,
and I like I was. I was such a nodle.
The fact that you guys even put up with me
looking back is quite shocking because I and the fact
(28:20):
that Jesse still like speaks to me is again shocking
because I was not lovely.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
I don't remember the banking of hours, but I would
go days off when I didn't.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
I vaguely when I didn't have like.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Of hours, Like I don't think I ever really got
three hours a day. I would get it had to
be a minimum of a twenty minute increman, because you know,
it's kind of fair to get in.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
School and you need at least twenty minutes to do anything.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Five minutes to settle down, and I would try to
get the whole twenty minutes to just get like, you know,
talking about something unrelated to school.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Just try to say.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I was also going to the article in the New
York Times today I was doing.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I was at a college preparatory, and I remember just
like just trying to be I felt like it was
my I absolutely had to get into college because that's
what you do, even though I was working full time
and I was like so panicked about like falling behind, and.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I just.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, I was definitely the overachiever. And I don't know
that it really worked out for me.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Oh I think it works well. I just feel like I.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Feel like this whole experience right now and being on
this podcast with you guys is really making me realize
that I'm wound a little tight and I could like.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Be unwaped. That's what the road trips for.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, I feel like that also just makes me wind tighter.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
Yeah, for some reason, it's good.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
It's actually causing me.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
But I went to the same high school that you
went to, the College Prep, and I remember when because
I remember that you had kind of pitched that I
should go there, and I was like trying to figure
out where to go because the high schools where I
live were not private, and public schools are kind of
(30:20):
based on their attendance based and obviously my attendance on
paper is very poor, even though every day I was
doing school even if I wasn't there, and so the
public schools where all my friends went I could not
go to.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
And then you were like.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Oh, and your school was pretty far away from where
I lived, but I would drive down there to go
to that school, and I remember the thing that sinsed
it for me was that was that that school was
known for high turnout to USC. And my goal even
from before high school, was that I was going to
go to USC Film School, And so that was kind
(30:57):
of like the momentum leading up to you were towards
the end of the show where I had kind of
bowed out early was because I had made it and
I'd gotten into USC and you know, didn't go to
other schools that I could have that I got better
kind of rides to and could have you know, could
have gotten probably more focused film educations at but I
(31:21):
was like, Nope, USC said I can go, and I
don't care.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I also got into USC, but I only got in
second semester and I'm like, what am I supposed to
do for the first semester? So I ended up coming
to l m U and I got into the Film
school here, which was fun, but like, yeah, I think
my goal was also USC film School all the way
because back.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
In that was like that it was like the gold standard. Yeah,
crazy school of Spielberg.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
And I realized when having gone to film school, or
let me be clear, I would say not really went
to film school. Had a few classes at the film
school because I didn't succeed in finishing. Was also just
the what we learned being on set and being with
(32:07):
people while we're doing it every day was the best
film school anyone could ever ask for. Because I remember
this about you too, is like we were all like
asking to like be behind the camera, asking like the
grips and electric like what are you doing? Like all
(32:28):
the gaffers. Like I just remember being there with everyone,
like being on set and like immersing myself.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
In every Do you guys remember I used to do
this with Ronnie all the time. So Ronnie, Ronnie High
was our camera operator and then eventually on the show
was our director of photography. And when he was camera operator,
he used to do and used to let me do
it all the time where he would do figure eights.
Do you guys remember doing that? Yeah, with the wheels,
So the cameras operated with these two wheels. There's a
(32:56):
kind of like a nodding wheel and h uh left
and right wheel and if and if you would, I remember,
you would like roll them in kind of this sequence
and you would get the camera to do figure eights.
And that was he would sit there between takes and
just do that and like as like a kind of
(33:17):
you know, uh, without thinking, just kind of like a practice.
And I would I remember asking all the time that
I could sit there and do that and trying to
get that right.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
My favorite memory of Ronnie High was the game that
we would all play with trying to make him laugh
so hard that he would shake the camera.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
And that is when I knew like some of the
best stories.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Yes, in the camera box too, remember the collection of
every flavor TikTok. You could have camera box in front, yeah, Keith, yeah,
Keith yeah. Mike had them too. And then they had
like these little white wax pencils that they would use
to make marks on the camera with and they would
let me like doodle all over the side of the dogs.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
That was the focus focus puller, the camera operator. And
then right next to the camera operators, your focus puller
who will sit there and pull focus measure to everybody
so that he can get the focus as the camera
looks at different people and the.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Camera tape measure. Now they don't use tape measures.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Sure, back then it was an analog.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
The sound of the tape measure unwinding and coming close
to my ear and it's like, oh yeah, remember we
used to pull.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Temple basically, but just that sound of.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Like so that the focus could be on your eyes
and that was the important thing that had to be
in focus.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
You remember also the map boxes. I used to remember
like writing notes on the map with the white pencil
and write like like there are little like love letters
to each other and like just like fun or goot.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Sometimes they weren't dueling on the camera a bunch of kids,
and it was but it was.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Always so fun and like, yeah, but honestly, from our perspective.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
It's fun so hard when he like, I think we
definitely made him cry a few times because we made
it because he would he would try so hard not
to move, and he would then shake the entire camera
and we would we would ruin a take.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
We would get some inside jokes going or something that
was funny, and then we'd all have to kind of
like pull it together and and do the scene and
take a deep breath and whatever. But if we could,
if you could just kind of keep keep it going
just enough, you would get Ronnie to start laughing. And
he couldn't obviously make any noise, so he'd be clenched up,
holding in his best he can, trying to operate the camera,
(35:33):
but he'd be shaking like this, like trying not to laugh,
and then we would we would blow takes doing that.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
All, and it was just like that was like the
greatest joy.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Yeah, it was amazing.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
That was when you had really known that like you
were funny.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
It made you feel very pleasure exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
That's amazing, Yes, exactly, but then if Ronnie wasn't laughing,
then you're like also, like, even though Seventh Heaven was
a family drama, like there were a lot of funny moments,
it was kind of.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Well, yeah, there was plenty of stuff in the show
that was intended to be funny, and then there was
plenty of stuff on the show that was not intended
to be funny that was very funny.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yeah, especially was a different thing, especially looking at the
in retrospect.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Sure, a lot more of it is funny, but but
but there was definitely stuff that we had done that
was gags and things that were supposed to have punchy,
comedic timing to it.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Yeah, well, even in those clips we were watching of
the pilot last week, that there.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I would definitely have to say. I mean, obviously I'm
not to toot our own hordes, but I would definitely
say that we had the best comedy. Did I miss something?
I felt like I did I miss something?
Speaker 5 (36:45):
No, I don't think I think I did. It's fine.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I feel like this is this is also this is
feeling reminiscent of like something going right over my head
that I like not paying attention to.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
I was trying. I was.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Last week when we were watching clips from the show.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
I noticed that how funny it was, Okay, thirty scenes
from the show that were unintentionally funny that your friends or.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Someone like called out.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I mean, I think that there were moments on the
show for sure where I was in that teenage year
where I thought I was like borderline trying to be cute,
sexy and trying to be something that clearly wasn't.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Should we tell them about what like the summer you
came back with like.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Boobs, and I just want you make it sound like
I like went out and bought them.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
I know, I grew.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
They were like a natural progression. It's called puberty.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I know this, but you did it very well.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
You pubertized excellently, pubertized, Sorry.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
I do.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
It's a word, and I just spit it up.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
So bad comes back and she's just got this amazing
cleavage right, And I delivered like every single one of
my lines straight into Bev's chest.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
That was a problem.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I remember being like Mac, I like, stop looking at
my I don't know what it was like.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Gravitational pull was doubt, but it was also eye level
for me.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
In my defense, I know you were.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
I do remember that.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
I do remember.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Really it was strange that like you were the one
person who had the obsession with my check.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Well, I was obsessed with boobs like from an early age,
and that it is really excited to grow my own
and really happy for you that you grow them.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Well, yeah, yes, because I was a late bloomer, and
unlike Lucy who got her period very early on, I
didn't mind till I was kind of bloomer.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Sorry, yeah you know, but yeah, that actually.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Awkward moments where like I had thought, like I was
so cute, and I like was so excited about wardrobe
and IM remember like being with Sheryl and the fittings
are fittings and like picking out my outfits and like
really trying to take control of my character. Which these
phase And then I had this one phase where I
(39:15):
like juicy.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Do you remember the juicyge I had.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Every single every color of jumpsuit.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I had every Rocket dogs.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Didn't you have some of those?
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Or no? I you know, rocket dogs weren't good for
me because I kept tripping and I kept like almost
breaking my ankle.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I remember like really being so much younger than everybody
else and like wanting to dress.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
I missed that one that wasn't the platform sandals.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
I guess I was because I was like four foot four,
so the platform sandals were good for me clutch, I
could ride the roller coasters.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
The other thing that was always so crazy. Lucy's boyfriends
were always very tall, so like I was always standing
on apple boxes.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
So I still to this day, with my like current
and all my personal relationships, I need an apple box,
not only have one personal relationship now. But you know,
I'm just saying it's a thing like short people. It's like,
I think it's nature's way of wanting you to have
normal sized children.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
You know, like you're short and then you're mating specimen.
We have a normal sized child.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
I mean, I hope my children are normal sized.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
But you're a normal You're not like on sub five
feet though I'm five to two. Yeah, you're you're average
to tall.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
You call me average?
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Oh, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
I'm just no, Michael's like normal, heided.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
I'm not saying everyone is like five nine ten. Yeah,
you guys, your children are perfect.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
They're tiny, but that's fine, are they?
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Mine's gonna probably outgrow me, Like next year but whatever,
that's fine, it's okay.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Well, I think we covered a lot on this episode. Yeah,
I think that we're gonna wrap this episode up. If
you guys want to listen to more, join us on
next episode of Catching Up with the Campidons
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