September 15, 2025 • 45 mins
Haylie Duff sits down with Bev and David (and at some point Mack) to talk about her days on 7th Heaven, hearing about the show getting cancelled, and what it was like filming her scenes with Bev in New York while also acting on Broadway. And yes, they dive into everyone's favorite cult comedy: NAPOLEON DYNAMITE!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Well, you knew we should talk about We should talk
about when the show went to New York. Oh, yeah,
that's a good thing to talk about.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
We got to go on the plane with Brenda, right.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Well remember the last season the show, all my set
pieces moved to New York.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Oh yeah, because you were yes, yes, which I feel
like that's actually didn't.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Think you're the only one who did that. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I came.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I came.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I got to come on the private jet with Brenda.
And I just remember a private jet. Oh I didn't
tell you that.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, we came because it was with Brenda. It was
here like I was working, and yes we did.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I forgot.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
You know what's funny, I didn't remember that.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So that's what we should talk about, because I feel
like that's like a fun fact.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I didn't know this.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, okay, well should we start.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Hey, guys, welcome back. This is catching up with the Camdens.
I am Beverally Mitchell, I'm David Gallagher, and we have
a special guest.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Dear friend Haley duff is here. You are a fan favorite.
Everyone has been.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Screaming your names from the mountaintop wanting you to come
on so you have.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
A ton of fans as you. I'm sure you've come
across many of them.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Well, thank you. I'm excited to be here with you guys.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
And so you've been up to a lot because even
before we met you on Seventh Heaven you had a
very long career as well.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So and you have continued. You're doing crazy things like
directing now, which is so exciting. But everybody from Seventh
heeven knows you as Sandy.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yes, I know. I'm like, it's been so fun to
go back and certainly, what is my mouth? Are you
trying to like you're eating fire? There's like something moth Okay,
we're yeah. But we've just been the last like half
hour reminiscing about things, and it's so fun to talk
to you guys about some of these old memories. It's great.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
So, now, do you remember a lot of your storylines,
because we'll be honest you you have remembered nothing.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
The storylines, no, but the memories with a lot of
you guys. Yes, yes, which is like the best part. Honestly.
I remember the pregnancy suit, Yeah, a lot of the
pregnancy suit.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I know because you had to wear it for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, very long time. Do you remember when it was
like there was iterations of the pregnancy suit and I
did not like the ones with the belly buttons. Do
you remember that? And I would like complain. I'd be like,
oh god, it's another one of the belly buttons, because.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Problem you could see it, like.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, yes, it was like there was like tank tops.
They'd put me in tank tops and they'd have like
the little like popped up belly button. I was like,
oh my gosh, not again. It was the belly button.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Situation because we had a lot of pregnancy on Seventh Wanes.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
There's a lot of fleet of pregnancy suits. Yeah, on hand,
ready to go.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
But they did, and you'd go into like wardrobe and
they would like like like I'm ninety.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I don't I mean that's it's good birth control. You're like,
I do not want to be pregnant, and they're waited.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yes, yeah, so they feel very real. Some have like
boobs attached to them. Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
They were very uncomfortable. Yeah, it was definitely a situation.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
And then we were talking about like because there was
a point where they thought they were like alluding.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
To the fact that it was Simon's baby.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
That's right, there was.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
We had some drama in our storyline that that maybe
I was the father of your baby.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
It's stills very dramatic. I like this, I should have
leaned into this angle.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It was very dramatic.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
But you were also Sandy was like best friends with
your with Rose who.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Was my girlfriend in that arc, which.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Also feels like it would have been very tumultuous.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
They were, they were leaning into it.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, that's when we were becoming more Dawson's Creek, like yeah,
Lass seven even, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
That's when we were really and you were friends with Martin,
which also feels like that would have been right.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
And then Martin ended up being your boyfriend on the show, right,
so then, but he was.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Played by ty Yes, right, Yes, we love Tyler.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
You came in really late in the in the in
our show's history for your bit, and and that kind
of coincided with sort of the end of my tenure
on the show, because I wasn't there for the eleventh season,
but you were there at the eleventh season, right, So
then we kind of you know, we got like one season,
(04:34):
we got a bit of time too, We got that
one story arc together. But then after that I had
left the show because I was finishing up college at
SC at the time, and so you and then you
guys stayed on the show and when on all sorts
of adventures without me apparently.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Which is so funny.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I totally forgot the biggest adventure of all, which was
we did.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So the one of the seasons was the show was canceled,
I believe, well every year.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
We were canceled.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
We got canceled at the end of every year, and
we just went by.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Literally from season one.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I think we've every year, every year ready to be done.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
But yes, season ten was supposed to be and we.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Weren't being dramatic. They told us it was over, like
every year.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
They were like, yep, that's it, and then like and
then we'd get a call anyway, like you know, in
short order over the break.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Because at the end of season ten was the end
of the WB as we know it.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
That's what I remember.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
And then the.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Good old b the WB days, I mean those were
the days. But and then we transferred over to c W,
and so our eleventh season was c W and you
were doing other exciting things.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, we didn't I didn't have a job the show ended,
I didn't have a job, and my manager at the
time was like, you got an audition for a Broadway show?
Do you want to go? Do you want to fly
to New York and go audition for Broadway show? And
I was like, sure, I guess like I'll go do
something that feels different, you know, than what I've been doing.
And I always had wanted to live in New York.
(06:07):
And I didn't go to college, and that kind of
felt a little bit like I was going off to
college and a way I was a college age, you know.
And so I went to New York and I auditioned
for the show and I ended up getting it, and
I got an apartment in New York and I moved
all my stuff there and i'd been there for like,
I think a week and a half and I got
(06:28):
a call from Brenda and she's like, I have the
best news ever. And I was like, what what's going on?
And Brenda had always talked to me about New York.
She had like the most amazing memories of living there.
I'm sure you guys have heard her stories of her
like cool comedy club days in New York and all
that stuff. And I was like, by the way, I'm
(06:49):
living in New York. You always told me these like
great stories about it. I'm like, I got an apartment,
I'm living in New York. I'm doing your show here.
She's like what And I said, what do you mean.
She's like, what do you mean You're in New York
And I was like, I'm doing Hairspray on Broadway and
she's like, Hayley the show. We got picked up for
another season in the show, and I was like, I mean,
(07:09):
I'm here for like a year. Yeah, and so that
next season you can finish it. But they sent all
the sets to Brooklyn. Yeah, and you came.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
You know what's so crazy is I literally forgot about that.
You just reminded me.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
It was like you came, Tyler came, yes, and we
some other people flew out.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
I can't believe you guys all went to the one
who's from New York.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
All the seasons to skip well, and it was so
crazy because it was stupid.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I don't even know you guys did that.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I got to go private It was rough stuff to
miss that one. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I got to go on the private jet with Brenda
and Stormy.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
It was my very rubbing it in. It was my
first private jet.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Wall you've been on multiple private jets. Cool, bev cool cool.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
That was the coolest one. Let me just be clear.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
That was the coolest. We had some really fun and
we went shopping.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I forgot about that.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
We went to Henry Bendall's.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yes, we did, right, we did. We had we did
the like high tea with Brenda. It was really special.
It was very nice.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It was like a whole week and we were.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Because Brenda knows how to like Brenda really knows how
to live, like she really does. She knows how to
do like special things. She's very like intentional with like
certain stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
It was I'm, by the way, now, all of a sudden,
it's all coming flooding back, like I'm remembering the hotel
room and it was being it was so fancy. I
just remember being like afraid to touch anything because it
was so pretty.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
By the way, for what it's worth, I did not
stay in that fancy hotel. I was in my like
normal New York apartment.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Wait, so let me let me ask, let me ask questions.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Okay, full Princess treet hold on a second.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
So you guys shot parts of the show in Brooklyn. Well, yeah,
we were in a sound stage in Brooklyn. Okay, that
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Remember I had like an apartment set, Sandy did, and
then Martin had an apartment set, and so they sent
those sets.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
They rebuilt those sets in Brooklyn for you guys Nice.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And so whatever those scenes were, we filmed them there
and then the other remaining scenes of the show were
still continued to film in La.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
So when you when you got Hairspray in New York,
you you you got a place in Brooklyn or were
you I was.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Living in Midtown. I was in Chelsea because I was
walking into the theater every day. So I would go
in the morning and I would do like the matinee show,
and then on the days that they would come into town,
I would get in a car and they'd drive me
over and I would film for a couple of hours,
and then I'd get in a car and come back
and do the Nice show.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
And so you were bridge and tunnel the other way, yes,
first for Heaven?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Sure? Okay, cool?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, Okay, Well we're going to take a quick break
and we'll talk more about New York because I'm.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Really getting excited. I'm remembering all this, but we'll take
a great purse.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
All right. We're back.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Hello, we're back, and we have come.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
On in, Get on in here later to the party.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You are you late?
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Airplane?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Airplane?
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Come here?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
H she goes, I'm freshly airplane.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
What's up? Dude?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Come on? You are you good?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I hope there was nothing delicate in there?
Speaker 6 (10:34):
In there?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Really quick?
Speaker 7 (10:38):
All right, Max, She's like, no one is giving a
break for Okay here, Oka, I got it.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Set yourself up, all right, Mac a lot of.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
She's like.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
Straight in my goodness, I was just telling your husband
about the half well almost a leader of coffee.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
I felt obligated to clean out of the refrigerator today.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Oh my god, you didn't know.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
I didn't sleep on the airplane.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
So you're where'd you fly in from?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Cray minutes? Just sitting there?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah? Sorry for wow.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Yeah, yep, yeah, sweet my eyebrought the seam letting. That's why.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Hi.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Sorry for in erupting man.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Yeah, we're in. You want to get in here?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I can't get in here to there. We got walking
through here. We literally your luggage.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
There's no short cut. Oh I guess I could, Okay, I.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Guess what and we're back. We've been back. It's up everybody,
We're back and actually have.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
I'm Mackenzie Rossman.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Blush off their playing.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Coffee.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
This is how we do it. We just throw you
right in. We were just talking about.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
So wait a minute, Mac, did you go to New York?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Got her face. She was like, on the show?
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Did you go to New York for the show? No?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
I went to Scotland.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
No, no, no, like you going to handle the Scotland news.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Like you guys shot in Scotland.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Me the character Ruthy, I think to go anywhere? What
are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Did you fly to Scotland and shoot in the seventh teven?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (12:33):
Okay like a character when it's like a phone call.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
That makes me feel better.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
David just found out and I was just reminded.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Everyone just remembered that they all went and shot the
show in New York.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I did not do that for the last season, for
the last season, for the eleventh season.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Who's in that episode?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I got to play?
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Didn't fall in hit your head? It was.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
So fun because we we had we literally we hung
out with all of your friends.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
We went. She just came and saw the show.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, we came to saw the show. We went backstage.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, like it was. It was the coolest week. I
went to go what is Do you remember the bar
that was like we're all the Broadway actors went after
the shows were done. It was called like we went.
I can't remember what it was. It was very speak
easy vibes.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Yes, yeah, you walk downstairs.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
You remember what the password was? Was there one?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I don't remember together? Yeah, I can't remember what it
was called. But it was like right next to it's physical.
It was right next to like Joe Allen's or like
some there's like a steakhouse that was right there, and
it was right above it.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
There were so many Oh I.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Remember people went to it after the shows were done.
It was so cool.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Yeah, Broadways got a cool like it's it's its own world.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
It is in New York.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
How was that being on Broadway? How what was that experience?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Because not of us?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I mean it was awesome, but I also was so young.
You didn't you did a show.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
I did an off Broadway show before I moved to California.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
I was in the first production of a Christmas Carol
no Way. Yeah, it's so cool. Yeah, but it's a
fun show to be in. It was, yeah, and I
don't know if they still do it, but I know.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
They did it for forever, so it's it's a really
it was a long running show we did. It was
Paramount Theater, which was kind of like, I think, attached
to Madison Square Garden. So it wasn't a technically a
Broadway show. It was an off Broadway show, but it
was still a big production and I got to taste
that kind of world for briefly before my family moved
(14:55):
out to uh to Cali.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
It was like the year before we started the show.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Oh wow, so fun because I got a fun show
to be part of too.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah, it was a very cool show.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
On Hairsprays.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Yeah, Hairspray is another classic Broadway show.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, iconic. I did that one, and then I did
another one for MTV that I wasn't in the like
Broadway version of, but I did like a television version
of a show called In Search of l where we
looked for the girl to be in the Broadway version
of the show. I don't know if you remember that,
where I got to like participate in the audition process
(15:30):
for the girl to be in the Broadway's version, and
it was so awesome because it was like getting to
experience watching like somebody else step into their first Broadway show.
You know. It was like a really special thing to
get to witness like all these unknown actresses, like experiencing
this for the first time.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
And yeah, and on the other side for once.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Totally, and I think it was the first time that
I really was like, I think I want to be
on this side of it too, you know. Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
And now yeah, because now you're directing and you've been like.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
Yeah, I saw you did a horse movie.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I like movies or not for the faint of heart,
let me tell you that the challenge it was a
race like racing, right, Yes it was. It was amazing.
But like you know, most of the fourteen horses one
(16:30):
were they like there's a lot of where did the
horses come from?
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I'm not gonna lie for that.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
They were through a woman in Kentucky. So we filmed
on a horse farm there and there was a family
there that provided us with all the horses and.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
She and did they just typically do entertainment related stuff
or were they.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
They were most of them were retired race horses. Okay,
so there really yeah, so you know, the energy is
different there.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Like race but over fences a little bit so, but
racing thing is it is its own. It's much more
in fault than I Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, it's a I mean it was a big that
seems that's cool. It's like, wow, these are not like
slow moving movie horses. These are like racehorses. And put
them in all of the like what is it? What
is it called all that? As soon as they get
in all of that, they like it's muscle energy to them.
They're like ready to go, you know. Absolutely, so even
(17:33):
putting actors around them was sort of like what we
like safety, I guess that was yeah, yeah, but it
was great. It was really fun, awesome. Yeah, the movies
like I'm in post production on it now and it's exciting.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Well, that is exciting. It's really cool.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Well and also we can't we cannot skip over Napoleon Dynamite,
which was like the cold classic.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I don't remember had I done pulling Dynamite before I
did this. I'm so bad. Sometimes I wonder like, am
I like losing my mind? I know what year I
did anything?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I often don't know what I mean. Same, I've always
been like that.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Honestly, Well, it's also crazy again because I think we've
all experienced this that like the way our life was
and being on the show and like our years kind.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Of all they just like blurred together a lot of
and all of our.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Projects, they all just kind of blend. So like knowing
the distinction of when each thing happened is actually quite hard,
and I usually have to look at.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
IMDb tor on the pod that, like, you know, to
to the audience, there's there are all these episodes, and
there are all these seasons, and they're all very distinct.
But to us, it's just one long episode of being
on set. We were in the same place and the
same you know, with the people in and out all
the time, and you know, we finished an episode on Wednesday,
and then Thursday we started the next one. It wasn't
(19:03):
there wasn't like any time difference to us, you know.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
So, yeah, it is Napoleon Dynamite before, Yeah, two thousand
and four and now yeah, so crazy, Yeah you did
it in two thousand and four, and I because you
also have a you have a long history of my mind,
it really.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Does and that and that was obviously not clear to
anyone at the time.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Right, like that was the little movie that could write.
I mean, we all love that movie so much. Yeah,
it's it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Well what's wild is like now my daughter, who's you know,
I have two, but my older daughter was the first
one to come home and be like, what is Napoleon Dynamite?
And I was like, okay, we're doing this. You know,
she's like upntil that point, she was like a baby.
And then and I guess, like third grade maybe was
(19:53):
the first time that she had like a kid at
school say something about she got from the wind of
it quoted it to her or whatever, and she had
never heard of it before. I didn't know what it was,
and like kind of came home and was like who
is this and what is this? And you know, I
don't particularly like watch movies and shows that I was
(20:14):
in at home or anything like that show. I mean,
you've never heard of this before.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
When you're trying to like land a guy, you know what,
you know what, we're going to take a break, real
quack and I welcome back to that.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
By the way, I do love this story about you.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It's one of my faces.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Another guy, Rex, the guy who was Rex Pondeau. Yeah,
also on our show.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Oh was he really?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Yes? He was.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
He made uh my boyfriend's dad. He played Peter Petrewski's father.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Oh funny. I mean the cast that you guys have
had on the show is like the thousands. I feel
like everyone was on seventheven at some point exactly. Yeah,
have you guys gone through and like just arch and
be like wow, that person too. I'm sure there's people
you guys have forgotten about that were on it.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yeah, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Second, but like, I mean, you guys are so little first,
I mean the earlier episode, like you were.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Saying, you don't remember at what point all these things happened,
and you don't really have your memories of all of
your past are not sh into chapters. It's just this
like how did it make me feel? At certain times?
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Yeah, it's like school memories, like when you think your
grade school. You have memories of moments in grade school,
but you're not like, well this all of this happened
in third grade, and then all this happened yeah grade,
and no one members.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Unless there's a setting like a classroom or a particular.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
It's crazy how much I don't remember and if there
was of my own life. There's a lot that we
will not especially if you're eating weed butter all the time.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
You really that was the tell the story that was.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
The wild days.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I'm like, are we telling that story? You know what
this is? Because he probably doesn't even know, like what
are you?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Because actually Mac might be proud of me because it
was probably tell story.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
You're sad.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You're sad.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
No, Haley and I when we would go to the
hot I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
She knows that we had a wild pace together, you
and I.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
This was that was wild.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Judge, have it let us what is it? Well? This
is this might shock her actually about Beverly, I'm about
to tell you something about sister.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Brace yourself.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Mac.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
But also, by the way, I've forgotten that Brenda was
living next door.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Brenda was living next door, by the way, also very scandalous.
That's why I said Brenda paranoid.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, Brenda lived next door to you guys, and she
was the lake.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
And that was when we would have like these crazy
cool parties where we'd come and by the way.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
They weren't they weren't like wild parties. I mean, this
was the wildest we got was we had.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
It was but it was relatively tame, but for us
it was wild the pot.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
But we were supposed to be trying to make Rice
Krispy treats, but I think.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
We wanted We were going to see a movie at
the Hollywood Forever Cemetery and we were going to make
Rice Krispy treats out of yeah, marijuana.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
As it does. And they see movies and.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Total normal somehow got from the Rice Crispy what movie
was Cereal two? And the Hot Butter? But we never
combined them.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
No, I don't know. I just you know what ran
out of the time.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
You know what that was on the time management, and
so she was like, forget it, don't combine them, just
dip it in.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
That's exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
She said. Just take a scoop and let's.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Straight up, that's exactly what happened. We ran out.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I actually, she's right, and I.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Just remember being like this, we need to bring the fun.
And so that.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Was just dip it and let's like time was the
experience amazing?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
It was?
Speaker 6 (24:17):
Do you also know where were you from?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Your fine clarify kicked in right when they got there.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
That was also when we had we had fires because
we would never drive.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
We would never be irresponsible. Always have cars take us.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
We had Michael. We had Michael.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
We did have Michael.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Actually that is the fact that we had Michael.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Didn't sneak one of those tips.
Speaker 9 (24:48):
It wasn't dipping and driving, no, never, we had Oh
my gosh, that was and you know what, do you
also remember that we had the final I don't know
if it was we had our final party for seventh
Heaven was also at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery because.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Brenda Bay said, do you think that she really knew
that we did that? You know what?
Speaker 6 (25:09):
The message?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
And she was like killing us.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
She was a little jelly.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
I feel like Brenda would have loved that.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Actually, I think that, yeah, yeah, Brenda used to tell
me the best stories. She's like she's Brenda had the
best stories. Her New York days were hilarious. I feel
like Brenda would have been proud of us.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
She would would be proud of us because I think
she wanted us to live and be wild, and I think, honestly,
I think she would be very happy being like, thank god,
Bev relaxed for.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Like a minute, because I was a bit high strung
with you. Though we had some fun.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yes, we did I remember some Spider Club days? Yeah,
spider cut uh huh.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
We thank god there's no photographic evidence of something.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
God, there was no smartphones back then.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I look back at some of that and I think
I'm really glad, you know, because.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Agreed there is time to be alive.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, yeah, that was we got to go and like
really have some fun without a lot of Well you
might have some photos I have, Yeah, I knew you.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
We also had so many patres.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I was like, she for sure has some digital.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Cameras costume parties like amazing, Like I remember your gate.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, well I have photos from that.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, because I took them and then I gave them.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yes, yeah, so.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Sorry. Do you know that's your kids have a costume drawer?
Like do you do that at home?
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I mean I guess they had more when they were little.
Like Ryan went through a very big like princess face.
Lulu not so much, I guess, but Ryan, Like I'm
pretty sure she thought she was ma Wana for like
an extended you know, she was like lived in a
princess dress. You probably that when she was like constantly
in outfits. That's so cute that she would she was
definitely Mawana for a long time.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
But there was a time a period of time where
we used to like definitely have costume parties.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, we did our Great Gatsby Dinner part It was
a really epic one that was fun.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
That was very Oh yeah, I have those pictures.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I'm gonna you have to send me those.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I will, I will, And then there's party without us.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Sorry. Yeah, sorry, guys, we have like a whole life.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
But also what's crazy too is Seventh Heaven also gave
you a very lifelong friend outside of what who's sitting here.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
On the couch? Yes, and also roommate. Oh yes, it
did give me a roommate, which is kind of a
fun fact. I don't know if people know this about
No the show, but my baby daddy from Seventh Heaven
ended up being a roommate of mine for a very
long time. Tyler lived with me for many many years.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
How did that happen? Start?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Tyler was how did that happen? Okay, so he was
because you guys met on the show. We met on
the show, and we were like homies right away. I
absolutely loved Tyler and Tyler Hecklan.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
By the way, the audience listening.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
And he was I can't remember where they filmed Teen
Wolf Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Maybe I thought it was Kidd would make sense something.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
He was like coming off of the show or doing
the show at the time. And I remember he called
me and said, like, I am coming to la I
need a place to stay. I at the time had
a house in to Luke Lake, and I was like,
you come stay here. And I always love like an
energetic house. I love people around. I love like you know,
(28:44):
you know my open door policy. I'm always like because
I was yes, I was like, you were always there.
I was like, come over and I said, come stay
with me, like yes, I would love it, you know.
And he came for a weekend and then he just
like never left. Tyler ended up being my roommate for
like a really long time and I just that house,
(29:05):
not just that house. And I moved to a new
house and Tyler came with me.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
And then Tyler had a girlfriend and you came with.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Some of his stuff in your boxes.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Just yeah, he had his boxes. We didn't share boxes.
But no, I love Tyler. He is the best. And yeah,
then he had like a girlfriend that lived there for
a while and I had like a boyfriend that lived
there for a while, and yeah, it was right, it
was Yeah, it probably would have made a pretty good sitcom.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
That was. That was That was very fun.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
And I think because we also did Real Girl's Kitchen
because when you were yes.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I had thinking my house for a while and Tyler
would be like floating around while we filmed the Cooking
Show and.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Hayley has some famous recipes that I still to this
day make, which is like your watermelon feta mint so
all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, that was on the Cooking Show quite a bit, yes.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Because you kind of inspired me to like want to
cook stuff and like especially your stop last John, Oh
my god, are you not being.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
And your weed butter dip never made it to the
Cooking Show?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Why do you know what? That's what should have been
on the show, you guys.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Really you actually make the brownies not necessary thirty minutes faster.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
You just dip it and go.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
That is the only time that I ever like that,
I've ever done that. It was that one day.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
So why didn't you do it again?
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Weren't you having butter every day after that? Because I
don't even know what I get weed butter?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
You make it with we no, but she's like the
little supportant ingredients.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
But this this two steps back, you get the first
step because.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Also remember I'm also like afraid of getting in trouble
or doing anything that I could.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Well, fifteen years ago or whatever, this was was way
different than.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
It's not the same. Yeah, isn't it easy?
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Like we had to like yeah, weed butter, Yeah, but
I'm still afraid of doing that.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Like I wouldn't even do that.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Because well, now she's like a mom. You guys, like,
everyone chill out. We're not going to be encouraging her
to do this. You know, this is a way of
her time. It was.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
It was when it was fun and now I'm not.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yes you are fun, just kidding you always well not really,
but yeah, let's.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Say God break and we'll be right back. Did you
do and we're back.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
We're back, and we're back. She's like, and there's no break,
We're back. Did you do the the one where we
were both pregnant?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I did the one where you did a baby shower
for me?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Okay, se I have like the worst memory. Were we
pregnant at the same time, so pregnant at the same
time on the show.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
I was pregnant first, and I don't think you had
announced that you were pregnant.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Oh, I was just low key on your street, just
on these streets. Can't be dipping in the weed better
because we're just knocked up on these streets. Don't tell
the people. So we were fake pregnant on the show together. Yes,
that's what I'm thinking, I think so. Yeah, so we
were baby.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
In real life, we were pregnant at the same time,
but I don't think we were.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Trauma.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
This is a lot of pregnancy.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Well, I mean we've been through.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I'm happy to be past that point.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
We've been through a lot of life together.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yes we have.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
We have been through.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yes, we have a lot of life. We've all that crazy. Yes,
kind of blows my mind. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
How long have you you're in Texas now?
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Has it been that you've been out there.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
For I've been there for five years. I moved there during.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
The pandemic, so twenty twenty from the same area in California.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah, I lived in Laurel Canyon here and yeah, it's
like it's wild how fast it's gone by.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
When I think about it's been five years, I mean,
now it seems to me.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
Almost like you've been there for longer than five years.
But I think that's just because I know that you're
from Texas, so.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Like, yeah, that's true. I mean I feel like I've
always associated you with Texas and Texas because it's been
such a big part of my life. Like half my
family still lives there, and so I've always spent time there.
Probably kind of the same with you in Colorado. Is
like there's always been like a little part of me
that's always been there. So it wasn't that weird to
(33:27):
go back, But there was a side of me that
was like if I moved there and I don't like it,
I'll just move back to What do you like about La?
Speaker 6 (33:34):
What do you like about being there? Now?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
I think I just like that There's it's just different.
It's got like a different energy to it. You know.
I was in LA for twenty years almost, and so
I don't know, I was just sort of ready for
a bit of a change and just like a different
energy to it.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, I love coming back here. I spent a lot
of time here still. But it gives my girls like
a little bit different way of life, Like they get
to go like great public school. They go run around outside,
and I'm not like, don't run on the street, don't
do that, you know, I just get to like let
them go kind of.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
Is it a little clear that you live in now
like a bit more rural than.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, we live out in the hill country nice, and
you know, just is like a little bit more relaxed. Yeah,
it's a little bit a little more chill. I mean,
I get it.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
I lived in a life for twenty three years. Yeah,
and it feels like I just decided to move a
few years ago.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
But it's been like.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Eight you know. Yeah, it's so weird. But it's also
easy to come back here. And I I don't know,
there's like a part of me that nothing feels permanent,
sure or something, And so the move away didn't feel
scary to me. You know, there's a lot of people
that say to me all the time, like, how could
you leave this life you have? I don't know, it
(34:56):
doesn't seem scary.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
I think people forget to like, it's not far, you
know what I mean, It's a short flights.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
It's indeed, and we're so connected more than ever before.
I mean, I FaceTime with people all the time. I'm
always on zooms. I'm like, we're more connected than we
ever report. It's not like when we were little kids
and you have to like have a pen pal, you know.
Speaker 10 (35:15):
Like I think that also people don't understand People don't
understand about our lives as actors, as we kind of
already live a gypsy life, Like we're like the transitions
and change and shifts and.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
All of this is normal for us.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
So you know, jumping on a plane and going to
Kentucky or you know.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
So it's funny because I was actually saying this to
him when ever I go on location to a movie
that lives very deep in me, Like I could be
very happy in a lot of different iterations of life.
I could be very happy not being an actor. I
could be very happy not working in the entertainment industry.
I could probably find happiness in a lot of different
(36:06):
versions of life, in a lot of different places. And
so I think that that's also contributes to like me
being really happy living in Austin is like I don't
need la or need to necessarily work here to have happiness.
That makes sense. It's like adapt that gypsy life you're
talking about, Like I actually love going on locations. I'm like,
(36:28):
you've been a Gypsy's.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
Like a camp that you're you know, for a month
or a few, yeah, and you get to kind of
experience something different somebody you have never.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Been someone who could be tied down. Like I would
say that what I'm saying is that I think that
that's so great, especially that you've been able to do
so many films and be so many different places. Because
that's what I've always seen about you is I feel
like you're happiest.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
When you get to Rome.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
This is true. You're we're diving a little bit now,
but it's true.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Twelve years of friendship.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
That's what I would say, is like, I think it's
also you know, and I think that's also you know.
What I also love about us too, is like we
can go time without seeing each other and then reconnect and.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Be like, oh I love you and like great to
see and I.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Think so much, Well, that's true connection, yes, And I
think that's so much of what was the gift of
Seventh Heaven is that a lot of us were able
to create all these bonds and like you and Tyler,
and like I haven't seen Tyler in forever either, but
but he will always be a part of your heart,
ye like will always be a dear friend.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
And I think that's so much of what the gift
of was seventh.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Seven and Brenda did a phenomenal job of like bringing
in incredible cast members, yes, and good people, like we
had good people.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
We had a long running set for us to have
the kind of good vibes that we had on set.
It's it's amazing that from what I remember anyway, for
essentially our entire tenure in Santa Monica, we had a welcoming,
happy set.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
But that starts with you guys. You realize that as
you guys really set the tone for that for all
the people that came in and joined the series, And
that starts with y'all. You know, when people join your show,
it's how you guys welcome them, Like when I joined
the show is the same thing. Although you remember when
I joined the show and you were like, don't come
in here in your high heels and your makeup every day?
(38:39):
You remember that, but it's true.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
You had keels and I was like, it is like
really was like morning. I remember I.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Think I told you. She was like I.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Youst you and I remembered just being like.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
I was on this set right now.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I was like, I don't get it. And then and
then she was like, because you come in here all
dressed up with like high heels on. And I was like,
do you mean to come in here looking like shit?
And she's like, yes, I'm here. I am baby. Let's
ever since well.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Because I just remember being like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Like I think it was probably because I was like
coming from a nightclub and just coming straight toward the
next but I remember you. Actually, I'm like, she's got
it so together.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Like you guys had to work a lot more than
I did, and I would be wrapped by like ten
in the morning, and you guys had a full day,
and so I was like, I'm got to go do
stuff after this.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I know you actually, you finally like set me straight
and You're like, I am going to be off by ten.
I have other things to do and I don't want
to be walking around in my pajamas, and I'm like,
but I walk around.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
In my pajamas.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
And then the next day you showed up and you
were in your egg boots and I was like, we
can be friends now.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
But it is true. You guys all joking. Designed you
guys set the tone for what you know, the series
goes like and how people feel when they joined the show.
And you guys did such a beautiful job of that.
Truly you did, and that's what That's why when people
get on the set, they behave the way you guys
behave in the example that you set. So bravo all
(40:21):
for that.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Thank you. And you also, uh did Secret Life with
the American Teenager as well, didn't you. I saw pictures
of you.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
And oh god, I did, didn't I I think you.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Did because I saw pictures in the yearbook.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
I guess I did.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
I think you.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Please don't ask me what I did on that show.
Literally I don't know I did.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Oh hell yeah, I actually.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Now that you say that, I think I. When I
was doing that, my nephew was being born, and I'm
pretty sure that I was like raced from the set
to Cedars while he was like, well like while she
was in labor. Now that you say that, that's look
at all these we're just like we were really cracky,
(41:04):
yeah part of you that's funny. Yes, I totally forgot
about that.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
This has just been a sole session of remembering things
that we all had all forgotten. Yeah, like especially crazy,
Like literally the gift that you gave me of reminding
me about New York is just like makes me so happy.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
I want to find those pictures.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Oh, we have to have some of them somewhere.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
We have to have That's the adventure.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
I mean, most devastating part about that will be that
I'm in like crazy wigs from the show and You're
gonna look cute and I'm gonna look insane.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
She was doing Hairspray.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
She was on Broadway. Oh okay, why were you because
we were shooting seven seven, so they like filmed any
scenes that I was in were all shot there and
they flew out for them.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Gotcha.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Her tied up over there to accommodate.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
The first half, and yes, you were catching up. She was.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
She was coming from Maryland and she was still on
the plane.
Speaker 7 (41:58):
Yeah, and she do you feel because I was hoping
to not have to get a middle seat and then
it got to the back and I was like, dang,
I should have taken a middle seat up front, and
you're still Actually no, I got an set the little
lady Moya.
Speaker 6 (42:22):
No, I didn't. She sat next to her daughter.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
She was trying to like take up the whole aisle.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I've done that before.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
Yeah. Anyways, well, thank.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
You so much for coming and making time for us,
because we love you so much and.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I love I know that you know. It's it's crazy.
We had everybody was on flights. You're on a flight tomorrow.
We just flew in.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
It happened.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
David may as well have flown in from how far he.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Has to do this is quite far from where you lived.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
It's about the same we took him.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Just have lost to drive for my flight to Yeah. No,
I love seeing you guys. Thank you. This was so
much fun.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
And we're so excited for all of your films that
are coming out, which you've gotten quite a few, So
everybody just I don't.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Know what I want to call you guys to put
you in some of them.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
I mean, hey, yeah, I'm available to that. We can.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
Right here.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
You got my number.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
But thank you so much, and we love you, and
the fans love you, and they're all going to be
very excited that you came.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
To play with us and Mac. We're so happy you
got here.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah, I'm also like slightly shocked that she wasn't more
shocked about some of the things we revealed today. I mean,
I thought that was gonna be a little bit better.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
I was like, it's.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
Max.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Probably like thank god, somebody like gave her some weeds.
Speaker 7 (43:56):
So you had some weed better and you went to
watch a movie at the Hollywood over.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
So when like that, hold on, what we allot that
was wild?
Speaker 2 (44:08):
That is wild?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Mac, We did. We thought that was wild. But when
you say it like that, yeah, we're like, well that's
all folks, all.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
Right, let me take my stories and put them away.
Speaker 6 (44:24):
I'm proud of you. There you go.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
We were proud of us.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
That's right that we are intimidated.
Speaker 7 (44:32):
You guys are I'm surprised you didn't get caught and
I'm probably.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
Still investigating that case.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Which way, all right, well, thank you, hey guys.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
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Well, you knew we should talk about We should talk
about when the show went to New York. Oh, yeah,
that's a good thing to talk about.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
We got to go on the plane with Brenda, right.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Well remember the last season the show, all my set
pieces moved to New York.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Oh yeah, because you were yes, yes, which I feel
like that's actually didn't.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Think you're the only one who did that. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I came.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I came.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I got to come on the private jet with Brenda.
And I just remember a private jet. Oh I didn't
tell you that.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, we came because it was with Brenda. It was
here like I was working, and yes we did.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I forgot.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
You know what's funny, I didn't remember that.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So that's what we should talk about, because I feel
like that's like a fun fact.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I didn't know this.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, okay, well should we start.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Hey, guys, welcome back. This is catching up with the Camdens.
I am Beverally Mitchell, I'm David Gallagher, and we have
a special guest.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Dear friend Haley duff is here. You are a fan favorite.
Everyone has been.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Screaming your names from the mountaintop wanting you to come
on so you have.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
A ton of fans as you. I'm sure you've come
across many of them.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Well, thank you. I'm excited to be here with you guys.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
And so you've been up to a lot because even
before we met you on Seventh Heaven you had a
very long career as well.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So and you have continued. You're doing crazy things like
directing now, which is so exciting. But everybody from Seventh
heeven knows you as Sandy.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yes, I know. I'm like, it's been so fun to
go back and certainly, what is my mouth? Are you
trying to like you're eating fire? There's like something moth Okay,
we're yeah. But we've just been the last like half
hour reminiscing about things, and it's so fun to talk
to you guys about some of these old memories. It's great.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
So, now, do you remember a lot of your storylines,
because we'll be honest you you have remembered nothing.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
The storylines, no, but the memories with a lot of
you guys. Yes, yes, which is like the best part. Honestly.
I remember the pregnancy suit, Yeah, a lot of the
pregnancy suit.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I know because you had to wear it for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, very long time. Do you remember when it was
like there was iterations of the pregnancy suit and I
did not like the ones with the belly buttons. Do
you remember that? And I would like complain. I'd be like,
oh god, it's another one of the belly buttons, because.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Problem you could see it, like.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, yes, it was like there was like tank tops.
They'd put me in tank tops and they'd have like
the little like popped up belly button. I was like,
oh my gosh, not again. It was the belly button.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Situation because we had a lot of pregnancy on Seventh Wanes.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
There's a lot of fleet of pregnancy suits. Yeah, on hand,
ready to go.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
But they did, and you'd go into like wardrobe and
they would like like like I'm ninety.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I don't I mean that's it's good birth control. You're like,
I do not want to be pregnant, and they're waited.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yes, yeah, so they feel very real. Some have like
boobs attached to them. Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
They were very uncomfortable. Yeah, it was definitely a situation.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
And then we were talking about like because there was
a point where they thought they were like alluding.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
To the fact that it was Simon's baby.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
That's right, there was.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
We had some drama in our storyline that that maybe
I was the father of your baby.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
It's stills very dramatic. I like this, I should have
leaned into this angle.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It was very dramatic.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
But you were also Sandy was like best friends with
your with Rose who.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Was my girlfriend in that arc, which.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Also feels like it would have been very tumultuous.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
They were, they were leaning into it.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, that's when we were becoming more Dawson's Creek, like yeah,
Lass seven even, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
That's when we were really and you were friends with Martin,
which also feels like that would have been right.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
And then Martin ended up being your boyfriend on the show, right,
so then, but he was.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Played by ty Yes, right, Yes, we love Tyler.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
You came in really late in the in the in
our show's history for your bit, and and that kind
of coincided with sort of the end of my tenure
on the show, because I wasn't there for the eleventh season,
but you were there at the eleventh season, right, So
then we kind of you know, we got like one season,
(04:34):
we got a bit of time too, We got that
one story arc together. But then after that I had
left the show because I was finishing up college at
SC at the time, and so you and then you
guys stayed on the show and when on all sorts
of adventures without me apparently.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Which is so funny.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I totally forgot the biggest adventure of all, which was
we did.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So the one of the seasons was the show was canceled,
I believe, well every year.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
We were canceled.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
We got canceled at the end of every year, and
we just went by.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Literally from season one.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I think we've every year, every year ready to be done.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
But yes, season ten was supposed to be and we.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Weren't being dramatic. They told us it was over, like
every year.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
They were like, yep, that's it, and then like and
then we'd get a call anyway, like you know, in
short order over the break.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Because at the end of season ten was the end
of the WB as we know it.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
That's what I remember.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
And then the.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Good old b the WB days, I mean those were
the days. But and then we transferred over to c W,
and so our eleventh season was c W and you
were doing other exciting things.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, we didn't I didn't have a job the show ended,
I didn't have a job, and my manager at the
time was like, you got an audition for a Broadway show?
Do you want to go? Do you want to fly
to New York and go audition for Broadway show? And
I was like, sure, I guess like I'll go do
something that feels different, you know, than what I've been doing.
And I always had wanted to live in New York.
(06:07):
And I didn't go to college, and that kind of
felt a little bit like I was going off to
college and a way I was a college age, you know.
And so I went to New York and I auditioned
for the show and I ended up getting it, and
I got an apartment in New York and I moved
all my stuff there and i'd been there for like,
I think a week and a half and I got
(06:28):
a call from Brenda and she's like, I have the
best news ever. And I was like, what what's going on?
And Brenda had always talked to me about New York.
She had like the most amazing memories of living there.
I'm sure you guys have heard her stories of her
like cool comedy club days in New York and all
that stuff. And I was like, by the way, I'm
(06:49):
living in New York. You always told me these like
great stories about it. I'm like, I got an apartment,
I'm living in New York. I'm doing your show here.
She's like what And I said, what do you mean.
She's like, what do you mean You're in New York
And I was like, I'm doing Hairspray on Broadway and
she's like, Hayley the show. We got picked up for
another season in the show, and I was like, I mean,
(07:09):
I'm here for like a year. Yeah, and so that
next season you can finish it. But they sent all
the sets to Brooklyn. Yeah, and you came.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
You know what's so crazy is I literally forgot about that.
You just reminded me.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
It was like you came, Tyler came, yes, and we
some other people flew out.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
I can't believe you guys all went to the one
who's from New York.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
All the seasons to skip well, and it was so
crazy because it was stupid.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I don't even know you guys did that.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I got to go private It was rough stuff to
miss that one. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I got to go on the private jet with Brenda
and Stormy.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
It was my very rubbing it in. It was my
first private jet.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Wall you've been on multiple private jets. Cool, bev cool cool.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
That was the coolest one. Let me just be clear.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
That was the coolest. We had some really fun and
we went shopping.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I forgot about that.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
We went to Henry Bendall's.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yes, we did, right, we did. We had we did
the like high tea with Brenda. It was really special.
It was very nice.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It was like a whole week and we were.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Because Brenda knows how to like Brenda really knows how
to live, like she really does. She knows how to
do like special things. She's very like intentional with like
certain stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
It was I'm, by the way, now, all of a sudden,
it's all coming flooding back, like I'm remembering the hotel
room and it was being it was so fancy. I
just remember being like afraid to touch anything because it
was so pretty.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
By the way, for what it's worth, I did not
stay in that fancy hotel. I was in my like
normal New York apartment.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Wait, so let me let me ask, let me ask questions.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Okay, full Princess treet hold on a second.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
So you guys shot parts of the show in Brooklyn. Well, yeah,
we were in a sound stage in Brooklyn. Okay, that
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Remember I had like an apartment set, Sandy did, and
then Martin had an apartment set, and so they sent
those sets.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
They rebuilt those sets in Brooklyn for you guys Nice.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And so whatever those scenes were, we filmed them there
and then the other remaining scenes of the show were
still continued to film in La.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
So when you when you got Hairspray in New York,
you you you got a place in Brooklyn or were
you I was.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Living in Midtown. I was in Chelsea because I was
walking into the theater every day. So I would go
in the morning and I would do like the matinee show,
and then on the days that they would come into town,
I would get in a car and they'd drive me
over and I would film for a couple of hours,
and then I'd get in a car and come back
and do the Nice show.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
And so you were bridge and tunnel the other way, yes,
first for Heaven?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Sure? Okay, cool?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, Okay, Well we're going to take a quick break
and we'll talk more about New York because I'm.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Really getting excited. I'm remembering all this, but we'll take
a great purse.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
All right. We're back.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Hello, we're back, and we have come.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
On in, Get on in here later to the party.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You are you late?
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Airplane?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Airplane?
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Come here?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
H she goes, I'm freshly airplane.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
What's up? Dude?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Come on? You are you good?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I hope there was nothing delicate in there?
Speaker 6 (10:34):
In there?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Really quick?
Speaker 7 (10:38):
All right, Max, She's like, no one is giving a
break for Okay here, Oka, I got it.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Set yourself up, all right, Mac a lot of.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
She's like.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
Straight in my goodness, I was just telling your husband
about the half well almost a leader of coffee.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
I felt obligated to clean out of the refrigerator today.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Oh my god, you didn't know.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
I didn't sleep on the airplane.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
So you're where'd you fly in from?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Cray minutes? Just sitting there?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah? Sorry for wow.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Yeah, yep, yeah, sweet my eyebrought the seam letting. That's why.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Hi.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Sorry for in erupting man.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Yeah, we're in. You want to get in here?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I can't get in here to there. We got walking
through here. We literally your luggage.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
There's no short cut. Oh I guess I could, Okay, I.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Guess what and we're back. We've been back. It's up everybody,
We're back and actually have.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
I'm Mackenzie Rossman.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Blush off their playing.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Coffee.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
This is how we do it. We just throw you
right in. We were just talking about.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
So wait a minute, Mac, did you go to New York?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Got her face. She was like, on the show?
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Did you go to New York for the show? No?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
I went to Scotland.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
No, no, no, like you going to handle the Scotland news.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Like you guys shot in Scotland.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Me the character Ruthy, I think to go anywhere? What
are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Did you fly to Scotland and shoot in the seventh teven?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (12:33):
Okay like a character when it's like a phone call.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
That makes me feel better.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
David just found out and I was just reminded.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Everyone just remembered that they all went and shot the
show in New York.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I did not do that for the last season, for
the last season, for the eleventh season.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Who's in that episode?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I got to play?
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Didn't fall in hit your head? It was.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
So fun because we we had we literally we hung
out with all of your friends.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
We went. She just came and saw the show.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, we came to saw the show. We went backstage.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, like it was. It was the coolest week. I
went to go what is Do you remember the bar
that was like we're all the Broadway actors went after
the shows were done. It was called like we went.
I can't remember what it was. It was very speak
easy vibes.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Yes, yeah, you walk downstairs.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
You remember what the password was? Was there one?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I don't remember together? Yeah, I can't remember what it
was called. But it was like right next to it's physical.
It was right next to like Joe Allen's or like
some there's like a steakhouse that was right there, and
it was right above it.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
There were so many Oh I.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Remember people went to it after the shows were done.
It was so cool.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Yeah, Broadways got a cool like it's it's its own world.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
It is in New York.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
How was that being on Broadway? How what was that experience?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Because not of us?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I mean it was awesome, but I also was so young.
You didn't you did a show.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
I did an off Broadway show before I moved to California.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
I was in the first production of a Christmas Carol
no Way. Yeah, it's so cool. Yeah, but it's a
fun show to be in. It was, yeah, and I
don't know if they still do it, but I know.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
They did it for forever, so it's it's a really
it was a long running show we did. It was
Paramount Theater, which was kind of like, I think, attached
to Madison Square Garden. So it wasn't a technically a
Broadway show. It was an off Broadway show, but it
was still a big production and I got to taste
that kind of world for briefly before my family moved
(14:55):
out to uh to Cali.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
It was like the year before we started the show.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Oh wow, so fun because I got a fun show
to be part of too.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah, it was a very cool show.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
On Hairsprays.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Yeah, Hairspray is another classic Broadway show.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, iconic. I did that one, and then I did
another one for MTV that I wasn't in the like
Broadway version of, but I did like a television version
of a show called In Search of l where we
looked for the girl to be in the Broadway version
of the show. I don't know if you remember that,
where I got to like participate in the audition process
(15:30):
for the girl to be in the Broadway's version, and
it was so awesome because it was like getting to
experience watching like somebody else step into their first Broadway show.
You know. It was like a really special thing to
get to witness like all these unknown actresses, like experiencing
this for the first time.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
And yeah, and on the other side for once.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Totally, and I think it was the first time that
I really was like, I think I want to be
on this side of it too, you know. Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
And now yeah, because now you're directing and you've been like.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
Yeah, I saw you did a horse movie.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I like movies or not for the faint of heart,
let me tell you that the challenge it was a
race like racing, right, Yes it was. It was amazing.
But like you know, most of the fourteen horses one
(16:30):
were they like there's a lot of where did the
horses come from?
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I'm not gonna lie for that.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
They were through a woman in Kentucky. So we filmed
on a horse farm there and there was a family
there that provided us with all the horses and.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
She and did they just typically do entertainment related stuff
or were they.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
They were most of them were retired race horses. Okay,
so there really yeah, so you know, the energy is
different there.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Like race but over fences a little bit so, but
racing thing is it is its own. It's much more
in fault than I Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, it's a I mean it was a big that
seems that's cool. It's like, wow, these are not like
slow moving movie horses. These are like racehorses. And put
them in all of the like what is it? What
is it called all that? As soon as they get
in all of that, they like it's muscle energy to them.
They're like ready to go, you know. Absolutely, so even
(17:33):
putting actors around them was sort of like what we
like safety, I guess that was yeah, yeah, but it
was great. It was really fun, awesome. Yeah, the movies
like I'm in post production on it now and it's exciting.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Well, that is exciting. It's really cool.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Well and also we can't we cannot skip over Napoleon Dynamite,
which was like the cold classic.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I don't remember had I done pulling Dynamite before I
did this. I'm so bad. Sometimes I wonder like, am
I like losing my mind? I know what year I
did anything?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I often don't know what I mean. Same, I've always
been like that.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Honestly, Well, it's also crazy again because I think we've
all experienced this that like the way our life was
and being on the show and like our years kind.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Of all they just like blurred together a lot of
and all of our.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Projects, they all just kind of blend. So like knowing
the distinction of when each thing happened is actually quite hard,
and I usually have to look at.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
IMDb tor on the pod that, like, you know, to
to the audience, there's there are all these episodes, and
there are all these seasons, and they're all very distinct.
But to us, it's just one long episode of being
on set. We were in the same place and the
same you know, with the people in and out all
the time, and you know, we finished an episode on Wednesday,
and then Thursday we started the next one. It wasn't
(19:03):
there wasn't like any time difference to us, you know.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
So, yeah, it is Napoleon Dynamite before, Yeah, two thousand
and four and now yeah, so crazy, Yeah you did
it in two thousand and four, and I because you
also have a you have a long history of my mind,
it really.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Does and that and that was obviously not clear to
anyone at the time.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Right, like that was the little movie that could write.
I mean, we all love that movie so much. Yeah,
it's it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Well what's wild is like now my daughter, who's you know,
I have two, but my older daughter was the first
one to come home and be like, what is Napoleon Dynamite?
And I was like, okay, we're doing this. You know,
she's like upntil that point, she was like a baby.
And then and I guess, like third grade maybe was
(19:53):
the first time that she had like a kid at
school say something about she got from the wind of
it quoted it to her or whatever, and she had
never heard of it before. I didn't know what it was,
and like kind of came home and was like who
is this and what is this? And you know, I
don't particularly like watch movies and shows that I was
(20:14):
in at home or anything like that show. I mean,
you've never heard of this before.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
When you're trying to like land a guy, you know what,
you know what, we're going to take a break, real
quack and I welcome back to that.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
By the way, I do love this story about you.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It's one of my faces.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Another guy, Rex, the guy who was Rex Pondeau. Yeah,
also on our show.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Oh was he really?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Yes? He was.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
He made uh my boyfriend's dad. He played Peter Petrewski's father.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Oh funny. I mean the cast that you guys have
had on the show is like the thousands. I feel
like everyone was on seventheven at some point exactly. Yeah,
have you guys gone through and like just arch and
be like wow, that person too. I'm sure there's people
you guys have forgotten about that were on it.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yeah, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Second, but like, I mean, you guys are so little first,
I mean the earlier episode, like you were.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Saying, you don't remember at what point all these things happened,
and you don't really have your memories of all of
your past are not sh into chapters. It's just this
like how did it make me feel? At certain times?
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Yeah, it's like school memories, like when you think your
grade school. You have memories of moments in grade school,
but you're not like, well this all of this happened
in third grade, and then all this happened yeah grade,
and no one members.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Unless there's a setting like a classroom or a particular.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
It's crazy how much I don't remember and if there
was of my own life. There's a lot that we
will not especially if you're eating weed butter all the time.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
You really that was the tell the story that was.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
The wild days.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I'm like, are we telling that story? You know what
this is? Because he probably doesn't even know, like what
are you?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Because actually Mac might be proud of me because it
was probably tell story.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
You're sad.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You're sad.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
No, Haley and I when we would go to the
hot I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
She knows that we had a wild pace together, you
and I.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
This was that was wild.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Judge, have it let us what is it? Well? This
is this might shock her actually about Beverly, I'm about
to tell you something about sister.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Brace yourself.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Mac.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
But also, by the way, I've forgotten that Brenda was
living next door.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Brenda was living next door, by the way, also very scandalous.
That's why I said Brenda paranoid.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, Brenda lived next door to you guys, and she
was the lake.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
And that was when we would have like these crazy
cool parties where we'd come and by the way.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
They weren't they weren't like wild parties. I mean, this
was the wildest we got was we had.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
It was but it was relatively tame, but for us
it was wild the pot.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
But we were supposed to be trying to make Rice
Krispy treats, but I think.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
We wanted We were going to see a movie at
the Hollywood Forever Cemetery and we were going to make
Rice Krispy treats out of yeah, marijuana.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
As it does. And they see movies and.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Total normal somehow got from the Rice Crispy what movie
was Cereal two? And the Hot Butter? But we never
combined them.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
No, I don't know. I just you know what ran
out of the time.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
You know what that was on the time management, and
so she was like, forget it, don't combine them, just
dip it in.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
That's exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
She said. Just take a scoop and let's.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Straight up, that's exactly what happened. We ran out.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I actually, she's right, and I.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Just remember being like this, we need to bring the fun.
And so that.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Was just dip it and let's like time was the
experience amazing?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
It was?
Speaker 6 (24:17):
Do you also know where were you from?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Your fine clarify kicked in right when they got there.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
That was also when we had we had fires because
we would never drive.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
We would never be irresponsible. Always have cars take us.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
We had Michael. We had Michael.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
We did have Michael.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Actually that is the fact that we had Michael.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Didn't sneak one of those tips.
Speaker 9 (24:48):
It wasn't dipping and driving, no, never, we had Oh
my gosh, that was and you know what, do you
also remember that we had the final I don't know
if it was we had our final party for seventh
Heaven was also at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery because.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Brenda Bay said, do you think that she really knew
that we did that? You know what?
Speaker 6 (25:09):
The message?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
And she was like killing us.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
She was a little jelly.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
I feel like Brenda would have loved that.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Actually, I think that, yeah, yeah, Brenda used to tell
me the best stories. She's like she's Brenda had the
best stories. Her New York days were hilarious. I feel
like Brenda would have been proud of us.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
She would would be proud of us because I think
she wanted us to live and be wild, and I think, honestly,
I think she would be very happy being like, thank god,
Bev relaxed for.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Like a minute, because I was a bit high strung
with you. Though we had some fun.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yes, we did I remember some Spider Club days? Yeah,
spider cut uh huh.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
We thank god there's no photographic evidence of something.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
God, there was no smartphones back then.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I look back at some of that and I think
I'm really glad, you know, because.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Agreed there is time to be alive.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, yeah, that was we got to go and like
really have some fun without a lot of Well you
might have some photos I have, Yeah, I knew you.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
We also had so many patres.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I was like, she for sure has some digital.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Cameras costume parties like amazing, Like I remember your gate.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, well I have photos from that.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, because I took them and then I gave them.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yes, yeah, so.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Sorry. Do you know that's your kids have a costume drawer?
Like do you do that at home?
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I mean I guess they had more when they were little.
Like Ryan went through a very big like princess face.
Lulu not so much, I guess, but Ryan, Like I'm
pretty sure she thought she was ma Wana for like
an extended you know, she was like lived in a
princess dress. You probably that when she was like constantly
in outfits. That's so cute that she would she was
definitely Mawana for a long time.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
But there was a time a period of time where
we used to like definitely have costume parties.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, we did our Great Gatsby Dinner part It was
a really epic one that was fun.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
That was very Oh yeah, I have those pictures.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I'm gonna you have to send me those.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I will, I will, And then there's party without us.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Sorry. Yeah, sorry, guys, we have like a whole life.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
But also what's crazy too is Seventh Heaven also gave
you a very lifelong friend outside of what who's sitting here.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
On the couch? Yes, and also roommate. Oh yes, it
did give me a roommate, which is kind of a
fun fact. I don't know if people know this about
No the show, but my baby daddy from Seventh Heaven
ended up being a roommate of mine for a very
long time. Tyler lived with me for many many years.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
How did that happen? Start?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Tyler was how did that happen? Okay, so he was
because you guys met on the show. We met on
the show, and we were like homies right away. I
absolutely loved Tyler and Tyler Hecklan.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
By the way, the audience listening.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
And he was I can't remember where they filmed Teen
Wolf Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Maybe I thought it was Kidd would make sense something.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
He was like coming off of the show or doing
the show at the time. And I remember he called
me and said, like, I am coming to la I
need a place to stay. I at the time had
a house in to Luke Lake, and I was like,
you come stay here. And I always love like an
energetic house. I love people around. I love like you know,
(28:44):
you know my open door policy. I'm always like because
I was yes, I was like, you were always there.
I was like, come over and I said, come stay
with me, like yes, I would love it, you know.
And he came for a weekend and then he just
like never left. Tyler ended up being my roommate for
like a really long time and I just that house,
(29:05):
not just that house. And I moved to a new
house and Tyler came with me.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
And then Tyler had a girlfriend and you came with.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Some of his stuff in your boxes.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Just yeah, he had his boxes. We didn't share boxes.
But no, I love Tyler. He is the best. And yeah,
then he had like a girlfriend that lived there for
a while and I had like a boyfriend that lived
there for a while, and yeah, it was right, it
was Yeah, it probably would have made a pretty good sitcom.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
That was. That was That was very fun.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
And I think because we also did Real Girl's Kitchen
because when you were yes.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I had thinking my house for a while and Tyler
would be like floating around while we filmed the Cooking
Show and.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Hayley has some famous recipes that I still to this
day make, which is like your watermelon feta mint so
all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, that was on the Cooking Show quite a bit, yes.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Because you kind of inspired me to like want to
cook stuff and like especially your stop last John, Oh
my god, are you not being.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
And your weed butter dip never made it to the
Cooking Show?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Why do you know what? That's what should have been
on the show, you guys.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Really you actually make the brownies not necessary thirty minutes faster.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
You just dip it and go.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
That is the only time that I ever like that,
I've ever done that. It was that one day.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
So why didn't you do it again?
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Weren't you having butter every day after that? Because I
don't even know what I get weed butter?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
You make it with we no, but she's like the
little supportant ingredients.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
But this this two steps back, you get the first
step because.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Also remember I'm also like afraid of getting in trouble
or doing anything that I could.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Well, fifteen years ago or whatever, this was was way
different than.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
It's not the same. Yeah, isn't it easy?
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Like we had to like yeah, weed butter, Yeah, but
I'm still afraid of doing that.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Like I wouldn't even do that.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Because well, now she's like a mom. You guys, like,
everyone chill out. We're not going to be encouraging her
to do this. You know, this is a way of
her time. It was.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
It was when it was fun and now I'm not.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yes you are fun, just kidding you always well not really,
but yeah, let's.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Say God break and we'll be right back. Did you
do and we're back.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
We're back, and we're back. She's like, and there's no break,
We're back. Did you do the the one where we
were both pregnant?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I did the one where you did a baby shower
for me?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Okay, se I have like the worst memory. Were we
pregnant at the same time, so pregnant at the same
time on the show.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
I was pregnant first, and I don't think you had
announced that you were pregnant.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Oh, I was just low key on your street, just
on these streets. Can't be dipping in the weed better
because we're just knocked up on these streets. Don't tell
the people. So we were fake pregnant on the show together. Yes,
that's what I'm thinking, I think so. Yeah, so we
were baby.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
In real life, we were pregnant at the same time,
but I don't think we were.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Trauma.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
This is a lot of pregnancy.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Well, I mean we've been through.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I'm happy to be past that point.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
We've been through a lot of life together.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yes we have.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
We have been through.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yes, we have a lot of life. We've all that crazy. Yes,
kind of blows my mind. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
How long have you you're in Texas now?
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Has it been that you've been out there.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
For I've been there for five years. I moved there during.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
The pandemic, so twenty twenty from the same area in California.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah, I lived in Laurel Canyon here and yeah, it's
like it's wild how fast it's gone by.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
When I think about it's been five years, I mean,
now it seems to me.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
Almost like you've been there for longer than five years.
But I think that's just because I know that you're
from Texas, so.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Like, yeah, that's true. I mean I feel like I've
always associated you with Texas and Texas because it's been
such a big part of my life. Like half my
family still lives there, and so I've always spent time there.
Probably kind of the same with you in Colorado. Is
like there's always been like a little part of me
that's always been there. So it wasn't that weird to
(33:27):
go back, But there was a side of me that
was like if I moved there and I don't like it,
I'll just move back to What do you like about La?
Speaker 6 (33:34):
What do you like about being there? Now?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
I think I just like that There's it's just different.
It's got like a different energy to it. You know.
I was in LA for twenty years almost, and so
I don't know, I was just sort of ready for
a bit of a change and just like a different
energy to it.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, I love coming back here. I spent a lot
of time here still. But it gives my girls like
a little bit different way of life, Like they get
to go like great public school. They go run around outside,
and I'm not like, don't run on the street, don't
do that, you know, I just get to like let
them go kind of.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
Is it a little clear that you live in now
like a bit more rural than.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, we live out in the hill country nice, and
you know, just is like a little bit more relaxed. Yeah,
it's a little bit a little more chill. I mean,
I get it.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
I lived in a life for twenty three years. Yeah,
and it feels like I just decided to move a
few years ago.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
But it's been like.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Eight you know. Yeah, it's so weird. But it's also
easy to come back here. And I I don't know,
there's like a part of me that nothing feels permanent,
sure or something, And so the move away didn't feel
scary to me. You know, there's a lot of people
that say to me all the time, like, how could
you leave this life you have? I don't know, it
(34:56):
doesn't seem scary.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
I think people forget to like, it's not far, you
know what I mean, It's a short flights.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
It's indeed, and we're so connected more than ever before.
I mean, I FaceTime with people all the time. I'm
always on zooms. I'm like, we're more connected than we
ever report. It's not like when we were little kids
and you have to like have a pen pal, you know.
Speaker 10 (35:15):
Like I think that also people don't understand People don't
understand about our lives as actors, as we kind of
already live a gypsy life, Like we're like the transitions
and change and shifts and.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
All of this is normal for us.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
So you know, jumping on a plane and going to
Kentucky or you know.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
So it's funny because I was actually saying this to
him when ever I go on location to a movie
that lives very deep in me, Like I could be
very happy in a lot of different iterations of life.
I could be very happy not being an actor. I
could be very happy not working in the entertainment industry.
I could probably find happiness in a lot of different
(36:06):
versions of life, in a lot of different places. And
so I think that that's also contributes to like me
being really happy living in Austin is like I don't
need la or need to necessarily work here to have happiness.
That makes sense. It's like adapt that gypsy life you're
talking about, Like I actually love going on locations. I'm like,
(36:28):
you've been a Gypsy's.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
Like a camp that you're you know, for a month
or a few, yeah, and you get to kind of
experience something different somebody you have never.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Been someone who could be tied down. Like I would
say that what I'm saying is that I think that
that's so great, especially that you've been able to do
so many films and be so many different places. Because
that's what I've always seen about you is I feel
like you're happiest.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
When you get to Rome.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
This is true. You're we're diving a little bit now,
but it's true.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Twelve years of friendship.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
That's what I would say, is like, I think it's
also you know, and I think that's also you know.
What I also love about us too, is like we
can go time without seeing each other and then reconnect and.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Be like, oh I love you and like great to
see and I.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Think so much, Well, that's true connection, yes, And I
think that's so much of what was the gift of
Seventh Heaven is that a lot of us were able
to create all these bonds and like you and Tyler,
and like I haven't seen Tyler in forever either, but
but he will always be a part of your heart,
ye like will always be a dear friend.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
And I think that's so much of what the gift
of was seventh.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Seven and Brenda did a phenomenal job of like bringing
in incredible cast members, yes, and good people, like we
had good people.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
We had a long running set for us to have
the kind of good vibes that we had on set.
It's it's amazing that from what I remember anyway, for
essentially our entire tenure in Santa Monica, we had a welcoming,
happy set.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
But that starts with you guys. You realize that as
you guys really set the tone for that for all
the people that came in and joined the series, And
that starts with y'all. You know, when people join your show,
it's how you guys welcome them, Like when I joined
the show is the same thing. Although you remember when
I joined the show and you were like, don't come
in here in your high heels and your makeup every day?
(38:39):
You remember that, but it's true.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
You had keels and I was like, it is like
really was like morning. I remember I.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Think I told you. She was like I.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Youst you and I remembered just being like.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
I was on this set right now.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I was like, I don't get it. And then and
then she was like, because you come in here all
dressed up with like high heels on. And I was like,
do you mean to come in here looking like shit?
And she's like, yes, I'm here. I am baby. Let's
ever since well.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Because I just remember being like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Like I think it was probably because I was like
coming from a nightclub and just coming straight toward the
next but I remember you. Actually, I'm like, she's got
it so together.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Like you guys had to work a lot more than
I did, and I would be wrapped by like ten
in the morning, and you guys had a full day,
and so I was like, I'm got to go do
stuff after this.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I know you actually, you finally like set me straight
and You're like, I am going to be off by ten.
I have other things to do and I don't want
to be walking around in my pajamas, and I'm like,
but I walk around.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
In my pajamas.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
And then the next day you showed up and you
were in your egg boots and I was like, we
can be friends now.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
But it is true. You guys all joking. Designed you
guys set the tone for what you know, the series
goes like and how people feel when they joined the show.
And you guys did such a beautiful job of that.
Truly you did, and that's what That's why when people
get on the set, they behave the way you guys
behave in the example that you set. So bravo all
(40:21):
for that.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Thank you. And you also, uh did Secret Life with
the American Teenager as well, didn't you. I saw pictures
of you.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
And oh god, I did, didn't I I think you.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Did because I saw pictures in the yearbook.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
I guess I did.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
I think you.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Please don't ask me what I did on that show.
Literally I don't know I did.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Oh hell yeah, I actually.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Now that you say that, I think I. When I
was doing that, my nephew was being born, and I'm
pretty sure that I was like raced from the set
to Cedars while he was like, well like while she
was in labor. Now that you say that, that's look
at all these we're just like we were really cracky,
(41:04):
yeah part of you that's funny. Yes, I totally forgot
about that.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
This has just been a sole session of remembering things
that we all had all forgotten. Yeah, like especially crazy,
Like literally the gift that you gave me of reminding
me about New York is just like makes me so happy.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
I want to find those pictures.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Oh, we have to have some of them somewhere.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
We have to have That's the adventure.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
I mean, most devastating part about that will be that
I'm in like crazy wigs from the show and You're
gonna look cute and I'm gonna look insane.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
She was doing Hairspray.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
She was on Broadway. Oh okay, why were you because
we were shooting seven seven, so they like filmed any
scenes that I was in were all shot there and
they flew out for them.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Gotcha.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Her tied up over there to accommodate.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
The first half, and yes, you were catching up. She was.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
She was coming from Maryland and she was still on
the plane.
Speaker 7 (41:58):
Yeah, and she do you feel because I was hoping
to not have to get a middle seat and then
it got to the back and I was like, dang,
I should have taken a middle seat up front, and
you're still Actually no, I got an set the little
lady Moya.
Speaker 6 (42:22):
No, I didn't. She sat next to her daughter.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
She was trying to like take up the whole aisle.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I've done that before.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
Yeah. Anyways, well, thank.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
You so much for coming and making time for us,
because we love you so much and.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I love I know that you know. It's it's crazy.
We had everybody was on flights. You're on a flight tomorrow.
We just flew in.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
It happened.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
David may as well have flown in from how far he.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Has to do this is quite far from where you lived.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
It's about the same we took him.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Just have lost to drive for my flight to Yeah. No,
I love seeing you guys. Thank you. This was so
much fun.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
And we're so excited for all of your films that
are coming out, which you've gotten quite a few, So
everybody just I don't.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Know what I want to call you guys to put
you in some of them.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
I mean, hey, yeah, I'm available to that. We can.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
Right here.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
You got my number.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
But thank you so much, and we love you, and
the fans love you, and they're all going to be
very excited that you came.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
To play with us and Mac. We're so happy you
got here.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah, I'm also like slightly shocked that she wasn't more
shocked about some of the things we revealed today. I mean,
I thought that was gonna be a little bit better.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
I was like, it's.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
Max.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Probably like thank god, somebody like gave her some weeds.
Speaker 7 (43:56):
So you had some weed better and you went to
watch a movie at the Hollywood over.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
So when like that, hold on, what we allot that
was wild?
Speaker 2 (44:08):
That is wild?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Mac, We did. We thought that was wild. But when
you say it like that, yeah, we're like, well that's
all folks, all.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
Right, let me take my stories and put them away.
Speaker 6 (44:24):
I'm proud of you. There you go.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
We were proud of us.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
That's right that we are intimidated.
Speaker 7 (44:32):
You guys are I'm surprised you didn't get caught and
I'm probably.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
Still investigating that case.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Which way, all right, well, thank you, hey guys.
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