August 18, 2025 • 48 mins
Bev, David and Mack sit down with Shauna Suffredini, trainer to the animal stars to talk all things regarding 7th Heaven's star canine, Happy!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Adele rules because I don't drink, but I'll drink the
fake stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I do. I drink the fake.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Poly girl has an na beer too. That's that's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
I don't I'm not a big beer drinker. Still't like it.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Don't why either, You don't know? You just don't like liquor.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I'll drink like like cocktails, got it, Cosmas, Yeah, Margeritas.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
Tell us.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
We're up where we're doing it?
Speaker 5 (00:35):
All right, we're doing it. Welcome to catching up with
the cam Dins. I'm David Gallagher, I'm a Canty.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And I am Beverly Mitchell.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And we have a very special guests and the people
are very excited to hear what you have to say.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Shanna Stufferdini.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
And you may not recognize her name, but you will
know who she worked with. Yes, the very dear Happy.
So you are the keeper of all happy secrets.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I was happiest trainer.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, for many years, like a gazillion years.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
It was a long time.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It was a long time.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Seven I think I wasn't in the last couple seasons.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Maybe, well, in my mind, you were there the whole time, kids.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
And then I stayed home with my babies but yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, in my mind you're still you were there, so
I've inserted you into all.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Of my memories.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So I think we really never let you leave, though
we still would like bring you back in.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Sorry, So we're so excited. And by the way, as
much as the people have loved us as characters, I
want to say that I think Happy is everyone's favorite.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
We wouldn't dare put all of everyone's favorite Happy on it.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, I mean we've had Verry on and Barry has
had his memories of Happy, right.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I think they had they had a they had an
interesting relationship.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Very and Happy. Yeah, what would have you think about
these mics?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Would not like them?
Speaker 5 (02:09):
I can tell you.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I can point out a few things that Happy would
not like in this room, the lights, the cameras and
the microphee.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Off and you guys and the people anybody creeping behind
a door.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
So let's start. Let's try to start at the very beginning.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Okay, can you discovery talk about, yes, when Happy was
born and like your your introduction to Happy, and when
you started working with Happy and like and then you're
when your your experience coming onto our show and stuff
(02:46):
like that, because in the very beginning.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Happy had another trainer, Sean.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So your name has to start with Sean.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah, yeah, So she was So we got her as
a rescue and she was at a shelter, and a
lot of our dogs we got at shelters like we
would just go, oh, that dog's super cute. We think
it would, you.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Know, and we is.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
So the company I worked for was Animals for Hollywood,
Boon's Animals for Hollywood, and they did all kinds of
like movies, TV, all kinds of stuff with animals. We
owned all of our own animals and trained all of
our own animals. So we got her to shelter and thought, oh,
she's such a cute dog. She'd be really cute for something,
you know. And she was fairly young at the time,
(03:28):
and I remember Seventh Heaven called and wanted to see dogs,
and so one of the other trainers brought a bunch
of dogs down and brought Happy just as like a
oh were. We would take them with us all the
time when they were new, so they could get used
to riding in the car and being around people and
just being out all the time. And we didn't really
know like her personality or if she was gonna work
(03:50):
out at the time, because some dogs were really great
and some were not. And so I remember Brenda saw her,
I was like, that's the dog, that's the dog I want.
And we had just gotten her, so we had no idea,
like you know, she wasn't trained, We didn't know how
she was going to be. And so that's who they
picked and they loved her and and she was she
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got better. She was she was just very shy. She
like didn't we don't really know what her situation situation
was before we got her. They said that she was astray,
that they found her on the street and she was
just astray somewhere. So that was you know, who knows
what her situation was. She didn't love guys, No, she
loved women better. She was fine with like the kids.
(04:34):
I feel like she was okay, and she liked Stephen
like she liked all the guys and that were there
all the time because she was so used to seeing them.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Once you put in.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
The effort, I think that the key was like you put.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
In the effort.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
But also little known fact, Happy was the first Camden cast.
Happy had Happy was cast before any of us.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
We had to go through this long process. They saw
happy and they were like.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That breda cast happy first.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah. So she when it was people
that she knew that were there all the time, she
was fine. But when somebody knew or she didn't love,
like the stairs, Like if she was in a scene
and somebody had to calm downstairs and she could hear
them back there but didn't really know like what it was,
she didn't love it. I remember there was one scene
where I think Stephen had to walk over her, like
(05:28):
she was laying down and he had to like step
over her with like a briefcase, and she didn't really
love that. So there are certain things. But it's funny
because she loved to be there. Like in the morning,
you know, she would get in the truck and when
you would get to set, she would run onto set.
You know, I was because there, you know, we were
like in an area where there wasn't really anything around,
so she kind of had you know, I would just
let her go and she would run right into stage
(05:49):
with me following hers. So it was kind of funny.
She was shy, but yet then like.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It's like she got stage fright.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
She liked being there with the honest, but then like
once you put her in the camera situation, she's like,
I don't like that.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah right.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I feel like over time, like you said, everyone had
to kind of put time in with Happy, So even some.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Of the crew and.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
The people in the different departments all kind of built
rapport with Happy over time. But when we were filming
something and there's a hundred of us kind of huddled
into that space, then she'd.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Be like, what's tearing out?
Speaker 6 (06:21):
She never seemed to get used to the fact that
once the lights were on and she was in the
middle of it, that she would be surrounded essentially by
a big crowd of people.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
She did not like that.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
In the boom especially, I don't think she ever liked this.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
Like how often did you have you kept Happy fluffy
and clean.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Or was it?
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yeah, I did, I kept her fluffy and clean, and
she was not easy to keep was constantly brushing her And.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
How often did you have to bathe her?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
So we didn't work every day, obviously, there were some
weeks we didn't work at all, and then there were
some weeks we were there every all the time. So
it just depended like if it was you know, we
hadn't been there for a few days, and I would
always bather before we would shoot, you know, but if
she was there for multiple days and it was fine.
But just the brushing alone was like she had like
a very weird she didn't really shed her hair. Was
(07:11):
her hair was like yeah, and she I don't feel
like she really shed. It was more like hair. Yeah,
So she had to brush her constantly.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
Did you guys, I know that you were like looking
for a double for Happy for the longest time.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
At any point did the search was it ever called off?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
We got a dog at one point, and I didn't
think it looked anything like her, Like I don't know
if you guys remember, it was like a white dog.
It kind of had short hair. I remember I brought
it like for probably a few seasons. We never used like,
we never used it on the show, and I just
didn't think it really looked like I think.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I think Happy was so unique.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
There was no found a way to find what.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Would you guess?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Yeah, I think she was like a wheaten terrier mix. Interesting, yeah,
but she did. I I mean we looked for years
and years and years and never found And she's amatch her.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I mean, from what I remember Happy is about the
height of this.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
She was probably like thirty five panels or something like.
I would say she was like a medium sized dog.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
Yeah, just remember seeing her trot onto stage with yeah
hair and this very swift trutch.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
And she loved to lay on the beds, like in
the rooms that were being used. She was just hang
out on the And I think I think one of
the questions a lot of people have is like, what
was Happy's life like outside of right?
Speaker 6 (08:33):
Yeah, so what when when you guys wrapped on set
and you guys hopped back in the truck and went
back to where it boons, right, so that to the
facility where you keep your animals? Was what does that
like for Happy?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
For the most she stayed at my house a lot
of the time. So most of the time she just
lived at my house, which you know, so she would
just come home with me, and once I had kids,
because I did work on the show a little bit
after I had kids, and she didn't really love like
necessarily being like my house was all quiet, and then
I had told is running around and she was like,
I don't know about that. The most part, she stayed
with me because we would get up early in the
morning and go. Yeah, so she just lived at my house.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
What was Happy's personality outside of she was good?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Like she was like she loved Joe. Joe actually took
over for me. Yeah, I was when I had Logan,
my first kid, and for a little while, and so
she loved him. She was always really great with him.
And I think because obviously, you know, she saw him
at home, so she was always fine with him.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Is that why he took over because he was Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
I think that that was a good reason. You know.
A part of it is because you know he she
had already known him.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
And also you are both the animal trainers. Yeah, like that.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Was we were both amal Wasn't wasn't.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Who was.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Something really cool too?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Yeah. So he is a master falconer, so he trains
a lot of birds of prey. So we do that
for studio stuff. But then he also, which is odd,
works at landfill's to like keep seagulls away really because
landfills get they get fined if there's too many seagulls
care bring trash out of the landfills go and they
(10:05):
he lets him go to the falcons hie on their own.
They don't like catch the seagulls. They just eagles.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
See the falcons they they heard them out.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Yeah, so they basically take them out of the landfill.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
There are a lot of like birds of prey where
I live, Like tons of eagles, like I've lived and
seen thirteen fourteen eagles.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
That's awesome.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
Yeah, and hawks and all of that stuff. But I
think about Joe. Yeah, she's the bird guy.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yes, but he used to do the shows at Universal too.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
He did.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
So we met at school be like animal training school,
and that's where we met. And then his actually has
a twin brother that also went to that school who
married a girl in my class. Kid is a huge family.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Of animatur it like identical twins.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah, identical. Yeah, that's also a bird trainer. Yeah. Wow,
they're the same person.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
What is this animal?
Speaker 5 (10:56):
We will? We will take outbreak, We're going to get back.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Okay, hold your horse and you'll be back. Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
So we were dying to know more. Okay, so you're
a family of animal trainers.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
And you guys met.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
When did you guys meet? So we went to there
is a college and it's still going and it still
exists in more Park and more Part. Yeah, I think
now they call it America's Teaching Zoo, but they take
like fifty kids every year, and you it's a zoo
like you. They have lions and tigers and wow, all
kinds of primates, like all kinds of stuff. And so yeah,
(11:40):
we went there. He was the year above me, him
and his twin brother, and then a girl in my class, Michelle,
married his brother, and then I married Joe.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
That's so crazy.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Yeah, and then and we both have two boys.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
So wow. And because also you didn't only have happy
on our show, you also brought some other fun animals enjoyed.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
There was one of the chimps that we had was
on it one episode, which was really fun because I
was It was one that I was raising, so that Chaos. Yeah, yeah, Chaos.
And then we did horse stuff when he was riding
horses a lot, so.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
We had camels too.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Wait, we're screwing over this chimpanzee. Like we're just like
like we're not young.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, but hold I'm just hold on.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
We can't just be like, oh yeah, And there was
a chimp and his name was Chaos and let's move on.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
And his name was Chaos.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Please we need to know more details. I remember Chaos,
but like I want to know what is it? Like
like one because a chimp is on it.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
They're like kids with ady D.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
I used to be like a toddler that can kill you.
It's like kill You should have.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Seen this morning that was that was her just chaos.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah yeah wait, so wait tell us more.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
So we had him for We had a few chimps
that bon always had for a long time, and so
when we got him, he was young, and so we
would people would take like keep them and basically raise
them as like.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
A baby kid.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yeah, like you had to watch them twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
You know, at what age do they become unsafe to
work with?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Usually around like it depends like if you're a woman
or a man. Obviously men can it's longer like a woman.
I would say like two three maybe.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, okay, yeah, And then how was Chaos on the show?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Like I forgot what he was? He was young. I
don't remember with him. Yeah, I don't remember, like what
there I remember remember whether the.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Story I think Sean came on.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
Yeah, probably because I remember being like sit on your hands,
sit on your hands, case.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Everything. Why because they're just like curious? Yeah, they just
want to touch everything. I mean literally, they are a toddler.
Like it's like if you threw a two year old
into you know, a room, a very strong to yard,
like a manly to your right, a strong Yeah, did
you guys?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Like, do people train snakes to do stuff?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
No? But they actually what they do a lot now
is it's kind of along the lines of what Joe
does with seagull stuff. Is they do snake abatement on
sets because like you go to Disney ranch or you
go to a Melody ranch, any of these places that
are big ranches and they're full of rattlesnakes. So they
have a trainer that goes and catches rattlesnakes and make
sure that.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So they're just like rattlesnake catchers.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Who was the guy who has the grizzly bear?
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Oh gosh, there's not a lot of people that have
any of that.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
There's one guy, but there's a lot.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
What's the bear's name too, there's like a bear that's
Biden Like everything right, yeah, Bob, it's.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Something like that. You know what I'm talking idea.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Who you're talking about? And I can't remember what it's
what did.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
He go to that school, the same one that you guys.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I'm not sure. Do you guys did a lot of
people did you know a lot of people know a
lot of the like older older trainers that they did not.
But it's been around a very long time. I think.
Actually it just went a couple of years ago. They
had a fifty year reunion, so it's been around over
fifty years.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
The uh, when you guys train at the at the
zoo training facility, it is there like generalized training and
then specialized for certain animals or do you guys all
train in all animal care and training? Like how much
of it is is you guys learning kind of the
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broad strokes of it, and then how much of it
goes into.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Specialization for like special.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Animals like a bear, imagine, but you need special training
to deal with bears, right, like falconing and things like that.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah, for the most part, like the general training principles
kind of relate to everything, so you're still using you know,
positive reinforcement and those things all kind of work into
every kind of animal. But we all kind of did everything,
Like you know, we had cats, like we did big
features with like you know, fifty cats I did, which
(16:06):
was all mice, So that was like something I remember
the seventh seven it was, yeah, that I worked on
for like little Yeah, yeah, all the Stuart Littles, cats
and dogs. I mean there was so we did. We
kind of all did everything.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Really, do you have a favorite animal?
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I really like working with primates and that's kind of
one of my favorites just because their their personalities are
so fun and you know.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
So what would be the hardest animal that you would
say that was like the most challenging that you wanted
to like pull your hair out? Not your children, right, humans?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
You can't. Yeah, gosh, I'm trying to think. I mean
cats were always hard because they're cats and they're stubborn. Right,
did you guys doate?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
You did the Pirates one right?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah, Joe did Pirates for years, like all the did,
the Capuchins and the.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Birds on Pirates, the monkey, the little Monkey.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, how many of those.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Were just like they did.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
They shot in like Australia, the Bahamas, all kinds of places,
so it was kind of fun because they.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Were quarantine like for this.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Australia was brutal. It was like they I can't remember
what the actual time was, but they had I actually
had to build a quarantine facility like on the location
where like only the trainers could go and clean them
and feed them every day, and they had they couldn't,
you know, they had to be there for a certain
amount of time before they could even I'm surprised. It
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was actually really really hard to get them there. And
then I remember the Bahamas, there was like a hurricane
at one point and the whole crew left, but then
they had to take bands. Couldn't leave because then it
would have taken so long to get them back. So
they only the trainers stayed.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
And the trainers had to stay in the.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Path of her.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
It was all fine, I mean, it was okay.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
So I mean, so training Happy was just like a
cake walk.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Yeah, I mean it was a good job. And I
remember it being like I remember it so fondly because
like I wasn't that much older than you guys, so
like me and Barry are the same age. Yeah, so
I was only like twenty twenty one when I was
doing it, and so.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I I mean I remember hanging out with you.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yeah, yes, yeah, Hansy was I have pictures. Was in
my wedding. She was my flower girl in my wedding
and Beverly was out the wedding. Yeah, and so yeah,
I know, so I when I think back about it,
it was hands down my favorite job. Like when I
think back, yes, yeah for sure, because I was going
to work and like just hanging out with my friends
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all day. Yeah, it was very cool.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
I was so sad.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
That's the one thing I do remember.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
It's just like we were all very you know, we
like we really were a family, like like and David
has said, like with our crew as well, like like
you were one of us.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, you know, like it did.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
There was no separation between cast and crew. We were
all just to like, yeah we were casting crew, like
just like.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
He's just such a like easy going, fun like place
to be, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Yeah, yeah, there was atmosphere even when we were like
running behind or whatever. It never there were obviously over
the course of all the years, we had our days
like all sets do. But like I think ninety nine
percent of the time it was it was a great
place to be and spend the day and work in
the you know, in the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, and you know what, I think I'm just starting
to realize there was when Happy had puppies on the show.
I'm pretty sure the puppies were actually like we. They
were from they were either I had some connection to them.
I think they were because they were my friends puppies
that we had just and so we needed puppies and
(20:02):
we're just like, here's the puppies, yea, and they had
they looked nothing like Happy because they.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Were Rember them not looking like you, because it was like,
you have to find whatever puppies you can get at
the right time.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
And I pies from yesterday and.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I like little potatoes and different colors.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
When we get back, I'm going to ask about Happy's retirement.
So we're back and we've been learning about all of
the different animals that you guys have trained and work
with and other projects you guys have done. But we
(20:44):
we ended our show so long ago, and I'm just
really curious and have been since we started doing this,
and uh, and we knew we were going to have
you on. I want to know what Happy's retirement was like.
What was it like for Happy kind of post seventh Heaven?
Did she where did she go?
Speaker 5 (21:02):
And how was her retirement? So to speak?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
She did not work again. She's a one hit wonder.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
She did it. She didn't need to work.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
She worked her whole life. She was resting when the
show was over. But she was fifteen when she passed away,
which wasn't too much like after the show actually ended,
so she you know.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Like fifteen, it's a good life, yeah for sure.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Yeah, so another trainer took over Kathy I think took
over when I left, and she did it for a
couple more years I think, and then lived with Kathy
during that time and then yeah, I passed away at fifteen,
so she was an older.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Was she at somebody's home or was she back at
the rapes?
Speaker 5 (21:43):
She was, so she retired as a house do Yeah
for sure? That makes me happy.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so she she lived her happy life.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
She did. And it's funny because she was the One
thing about her is that she was always happy to
be there because she just wanted to be with whoever,
like was her person, Like whoever her trainer was was
definitely her person. And so if she was with that
person every day, she was like happy to be there,
you know.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Okay, So yeah, she was definitely connected.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Like once she connected to you and decided that she
loved you, like she loved you and she was, and
once she decided that she didn't really care for you,
like she she kind of held onto that way.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
She definitely her people.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Yeah sure, I know, you said, like because a lot
of it is food based, you know, reward system R.
You had like a few different things that you would
have in your pouch for happy and hot dogs were
one of them, but also those little roll cube yeah yeah,
nature balance Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
That was like a meat yeah yeah, cut up into
little chunks. Yeah. And she liked that. She wasn't a
huge worker for food like she would eat sometimes she wouldn't.
Sometimes you'd give her like a piece of something and
she'd spit it out. And I remember that because she
definitely wasn't like a food driven dog. Yeah, it means,
which is funny because she just like worked because she
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would just wanted to do it, like yeah, she was
just like okay, I'll you know, sit and lay here.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
And I can it.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
But I do remember that you'd give us sometimes like
we were the ones that were giving, And I do remember,
like I feel bad because like Happy would spit it out.
I'm like Happy eating like like because I'm like, no,
you need to have it and she's like I want.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
It, and like I felt like I was failing.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
I'm like no, and I really feel like because sometimes
we would get the treat to keep Happy with us,
or we'd reward her afterwards or whatever. But I feel
like once as the day to day goes, and maybe
it was particularly with me because I did so much
stuff with Happy, but we would she would just like
click to my to my leg and she would I'd
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move to my different marks and she would stay with me.
And then when when we would get the take and
kind of wrap it up, either you would come to
me and take the dog or I would bring Happy
to you wherever you were off to the side, and
then I'd go okay, and then I we'd and then
Happy would click for me to you click, and then
she was okay, and yeah she was.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
She always wanted to be like up against body or something.
She didn't really love to be out in the middle
of her room for some reason.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
She didn't want to be surrounded.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
She wanted the security of like feeling that safe body next.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
To her Happy, like I remember like she had the flash,
but like what's happy panting sounded like.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
And she had really white teeth.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
She did have really white teeth, I know a lot, Yeah,
get her like they would.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
She did not have like you know, atrocious dog breath.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
No, she didn't have, because I remember there's plenty of
times where.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
She would she was well groomed. Yeah, yes, she was a.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Diva for sure years.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
How I'm curious.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
I'm also curious, and I don't I don't know, So
what is the This is maybe a strange question, but
like how does happy who gets paid like for Happy's work?
And and then how does that work? And then is
that is happy to get residuals?
Speaker 5 (25:05):
What is it?
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Like what happens like the farm gets paid for happy
services and then you're employed by the by boon and
is that how that works?
Speaker 4 (25:15):
So what it was was so all animal trainers actually
get paid by production and we're part of Teamsters, so
okay in the Teamsters union, Like that's the union they
put us in like way back in the day because
we would drive horses to set like and that's why
cool history, that's why you are in the Teamsters union.
So we would we would, so we were so we
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would get paid by production with that still to this, Okay,
that's how it is.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I never would have considered you a teamster.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Yeah no, but that's such a cool historical holdover from
like the old West Hollywood of good old New Haul.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Yeah, everyone's like, what you're a team star. That doesn't
make any sense, Like, well, because we drive animals to
set basically so, and then yes, they would get a rental,
like the animal company gets a rental for whatever the animal.
It's usually like a daily fee. If they're on like
a long show.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
It's paid by the day.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Yeah, like a weekly fee or whatever. But it's always
like a set amount and that's basically to cover you know,
just all there, like she most certainly did. It was
doing well, Yeah, there is no double there was, Yeah,
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and it was a great gig for me because I
was on like a weekly rate and I was sometimes
was hardly ever there, like you know, I was there
one day, some weeks I wouldn't be there at Also
it's definitely yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
But they needed you anyway, and.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I always had to be available, I think, happy, always
had to be on call because like so yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
If if like we all work because sometimes when it happens, yeah,
people schedule changes.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
You got to get someone.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
In do some other movie. Somewhere or some other job.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
So yeah, you couldn't, I mean a loton.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
She was also iconic, like typecast because somebody would have
seen me like, oh that's that's that's right, that's nice.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
You know.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Yeah, we need more of a set.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
So I remember there was one point where we you guys,
did the Hollywood Christmas Break and she was supposed to
go do the Hollywood Christmas brein we were supposed to go,
and she got sick like chew day, like a day
before the Hollywood had a set day something. She ended
up having surgery for like some Orgian issue that she had.
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She was she missed, she missed the Christmas break.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Of course I don't remember that in particular either.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
And I also see you brought some goodies.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I have shows. I have some of Mackenzie at my
wedding and oh my baby shower from set, because I
everly threw me an awesome baby shower of course on set. Yes,
and so I have pictures from that, which is funny.
I wasking through them the other day.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I remember we were such a little upper girl. I was.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
I was just talking my kids out the dam, that's
all I wore.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Again.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Amazing it. You got to bust out the old bit somewhere,
you know, all the vintage stuff.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I know, I know, and.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I think what that's what's been so fun is like
also having being able to like have you on and
like again, like just reiterate this family that we created
of eleven years and truly like all these huge milestones
that we were able to like kind of share, like
your wedding and your baby shower and all.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
Of these things like like only pregnant, I feel like onset.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
I always had like food in my hands.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I mean, so did all of us. So it's and
we weren't pregnant, we were just hungry.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
But after that, hold on, we're going to come right
back to that.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Let's take a break.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
We all right, guys, we're back, and we're going to
start off by looking at some pictures.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
And we will we will put these up on patreons
so that you can see.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
We're gonna look at them and you can't see them.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
So this is amazing again.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Your baby shower and there's Catherine and Mac is a
flower girl.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I remember going with Mac to I think it was
it was a concert that we went to for your birthday.
Like maybe it was either like New Kids on the
Back back Street Boys and we took like a bus
yep or yeah it was a limo. Mom said, oh,
come with us, so I you know, one of us
can stay with the girls and one of us can
take some to the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure our adventures were a little different. Yeah,
ours included Remember when I learned how to drink?
Speaker 4 (30:01):
That was different. That's what we That's when we thought
we were so mad.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I think some may have happened in this house, but we.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Don't need to talk about that time.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah we did.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Oh, I forgot about all of our photo shots.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I just loved had a little stamp she used to
have to yes Happy.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Her Happy's autograph was her propera.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
And I would get letters all the time. She Happy
would get letters. She probably got more fan mail than
we bought a fan mail. And I would always send
one of her little headshots with the pop print.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean the fact that people thought that
Happy could respond to.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Send them a picture says a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
And ate they would also send like like real notes,
like Happy could read.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Yeah, we would get letters quite often actually, and I
would always try to send up.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
So did Happy. Ever, she she just got the picture.
She didn't write back, she had nothing really to say.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Did Happy get the most fan?
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Oh yeah, for sure, that's what I thought. Yeah, I
mean Happy, it was a real star Happy my mom.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
There's Tracy too.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Yeah, I'm sorry. It was usually from like kids, you know,
little kids that would write and say like, oh, we
you know love Happy, Yeah, we love Happy, and you know,
can you send us a picture? So that's pretty sweet though.
It was cute.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
I mean Happy, I think was like unlike on most shows,
where like the dog was like an extra like fixture,
Happy was.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
A true character.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Like Happy was like truly had storylines. She was Yeah,
she wasn't just the dog on set, right, she truly was,
Like I mean, she has her own title card, she's
and half is treated super well too, Like on that show,
everybody was so nice.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
She got her own room and trailer and as far
as like animals go on sets, she was always like
set up really well. So it was nice.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
So would you say that like we we were the best.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
To our for that's that's that's awesome.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
I like to hear that validation.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I just I love to hear though that like, not
only did we care for the like we we went
the extra mile and took care of our own.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Yeah, I was happy. They were always very accommodating for her,
which was nice and me too, which you know, I
appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
So what would your dream job be? And like training
these days?
Speaker 8 (32:42):
Oh gosh, it's a hard question, like would you ever
want to train like a penguin or like, like I'm in.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I don't know. I really liked doing the dog stuff.
I think that. I mean, I do like the primate stuff,
but it's just a different kind of job. So I
I really like the cats. It's fun too. I don't know,
I love all of it.
Speaker 8 (33:14):
Really.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
Cats are kind of hard, difficult, hard because they're like
they're very stubborn, for sure.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
You got.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yeah, I have never had another I haven't had a
job that I've liked as much as having this job
because it's just was so nice that it was like
everybody was so you know, great, and the cast was great,
the crew was great. And I've never come across actually
another job that's been the same, to be honest, Like
I've been doing it for a long time and nothing
really compares like it's just not the same as it
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was working on a show with the same people year
after year, which was so great, you know that sort
of I would love to have a job like that.
I mean, I think the people make probably more of
a difference than like what animal I'm working, if that
makes sense.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
Yeah, because that's what the majority of your time is
spent really doing.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Yeah, and it's all great, it's all fun, you know.
So it really depends on the people. I think you're
around it? Do you how do you like?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
So what do you What do you like about working
with primates?
Speaker 4 (34:10):
It's just fun. They're fun. They're like, you know, their personality.
Everyone has their intelligence. Yeah, they're super smart. They each
one has like a very different personality, Like we, uh,
the primates on Pirates or the I'm sorry, the monkeys
that were on Pirates. There's two of them and they're
both very different personalities. Like one is a boy and
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it like loves women, super outgoing, super nice. And then
there's a girl and she does not like women at all.
And Joe worked them on Pirates and she really doesn't
like me because they get like very possessive competition. Man. Yeah,
so like their hierarchy is very interesting. So just she yeah,
she doesn't like me at all. So it's just their
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personalities being so different. I always think is very fascinating.
And they're so like human like honestly, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
What's your favorite animal to work with or train?
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Bugs? I don't like bugs.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
You can train the bug.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
I mean we did use bugs for stuff, and I'm
not a huge fan of I would take snakes over
like bugs and spiders any day.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Do they still do they still use the straw to
blow air on the spider to get it so bad?
Speaker 5 (35:22):
I remember that.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, we got a question from our audience here, what's
the easiest.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Animal to the hardest animal? Just to train.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Hardest? I would say, like mice were pretty hard to train.
I'm gonna be honest, because there's no like food involved,
you know what I mean, like anything that.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
You can't like really I thought that's the thing that
like mice.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Like, Yeah, but they don't like you're not like they're
not food driven. Yeah, you're not using food to train
them necessarily, Like there's no positive that you can't that's
how you catch them. Yeah, yes, some of them.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Well, I mean it is hadams.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
I think the easiest. I mean, primates are super smart,
so like that's easy. But then there's like other different challenge. Yeah,
there's other reasons that make it hard. So it really
just depends on They all have like easy hard things
that are just different from one another.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Do you remember anything that was like for Happy that
was like the one episode where like either she struggled
or that like she was like awesome at like one
like like the high end and the low end, like
one that like I didn't think we were going to
be able to pull this off, but we did. Or
there was one thing that like Happy just would not
do well.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
The thing I was saying, why we're like anybody had
to Like like when Stephen had to step over her
was super hard because they wanted her laying down and
like her head down, and anytime he went to step
over her, like it was such a trust thing that
she like didn't like it. Okay, she did it, but
she definitely was like, wait a second, why is this
giant man stepping over the top of me? So that
was hard. We at one point we're trying to teach
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her like she had to shake her head and she
it was really hard to teach her to shake her
head like she was us to be wet or something
and shake her head. That was really hard. I remember
she didn't realize she was just didn't pick it up.
I was like God. But and she didn't love being
at the top of the stairs when everybody was at
the top of the stairs. I remember that, how like
all of us. Yeah, and then he like eight of
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us up there like rammed all the kids, and it
was like the size of like a you know, it
was by five handying or something. And so she was
always like over you know. She was always like, oh
my gosh, there's way too many people showed what in
my five spot?
Speaker 6 (37:30):
So Happy obviously new was a was a well trained
professional dog and knew all the basic stuff, but like,
what's the suite of tricks beyond the kind of sit, stay, come,
lay down, Like, did Happy know any more specialized tricks?
Speaker 4 (37:47):
She did the most was like you always had to
do like you know, all those sit stay, lay down,
head down so like in their head, you know, because
they always wanted her like on a bed, like with
their head down looking cute. Her reaction was just liked
to learn how to She knew how to bark on
command because you know. She always had to speak. Yeah,
remember that speaking a lot. Yeah. She like could shake,
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she could like turn in circles. Yeah yeah, so and
roll over yeah, roll over. Oh, cover her eyes. She
did that all the time. Do you remember, Always like
she'd be embarrassed or something and they'd make her.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, like whenever, like whenever Eric and Annie were kissing.
I think there's like.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
She's just like a kid, like.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
A solid suite of TV.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
So she covered her eyes a lot. And then when
you were saying like following you around, she had a
go We called it a go with, So they were
trained to like go with some so we'd say go
with and they knew to like follow that person, and
they really were supposed to be like, okay, I'm touching
yourself with you. Yeah. So that was and then like
first studio stuff. We always teach a dog to hit
a mark. So yeah, you know they put a mark
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on the floor and they walk in hit their mark. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
What was Happy's color mark?
Speaker 5 (39:00):
I don't know, she remember she.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Had s one, right, didn't she have one?
Speaker 4 (39:04):
That was like I don't really, I don't I remember.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I do remember her A special mark.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Was like a like a fabric thing.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
I think at one point it was I think originally
it was like something bigger, but I think it got
down to like a piece of tape.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Yeah, she goes and the queue for that was mark
right after Happy retired.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
Did she ever just like like any of her tricks,
like like the I cover, Yeah, we do it.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
All the time. And I had, like you know, had kids,
so their kids, their friends would come over. It's like,
oh wait, what to see all this suff Happy does?
So she got to do her tricks.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Nice, so she still got to like well because I
think did she enjoy performing kind of she liked I.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
Would always say that she loved being there and being
with people. Like you know, you always think like, oh,
people have a dog and they leave it at home
all day while they're at work. But she got to
go with us to work, and.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
We were our dogs to work.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Yeah, And so you know, I think like as far
as dogs go, they're always happy to be with the
person and instead of living at home, you.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Know, would never miss an opportunity to tagle on all.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Yeah. Right.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
I don't know if you guys remember, but we my
dad had two rots. I remember No.
Speaker 6 (40:17):
Madden Sonia's two big, big ass rots from the East Coast,
so they and they were East Coast rots. They were
big and by we had a big truck and uh
my dad had like a big pickup truck, and so
he he had to bring the big the red baron
he called it. It was a big F three fifty
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but now it's the size of an F one to fifty.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
But like, you know, it's the back that was after fifty.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
But he had to bring the the I forget why,
but he had to bring the rottweilers with us to
set that day for whatever reason, and he just he
just kept him in the back of the truck like
he didn't even My dad hung out in the parking
lot at the red truck all day with the rottweilers
and you know, because they weren't like the.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Sweetest dogs at all. My dad's rott Whilers were not
the nicest dogs.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
But but after that there was like a set notice
about like you know, personal pets on set. You know,
don't don't bring your personal pets.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
Like they didn't even get out.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Of the truck because you guys had your kis the
whole time.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
You guys had little dogs. Yeah, my dad had two
giant rot whilers with an.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Attitude brought I think you also helped me get my
my goldens talker. Yeah, and then's and then you helped
me get my first golden and I brought back to
this house right.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
My head, Yeah, Ted, he was very nice Golden.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yes, we have another question.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
And had a fear of man. All right, as we've
discussed this before, did you notice.
Speaker 7 (41:56):
A change I either wanted behavior when from kid too
man into the show?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Was there in change?
Speaker 6 (42:04):
Man? I mean not that I not that I noticed.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
I was happy.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
I spent I think, you know, kind of time at
the hip with Happy. I was probably top of the list,
you know. So so me and Happy were cool.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
Like Happy would follow me, Happy would listen to me.
Speaker 6 (42:24):
I was able to get her to do like trick, sit, stay,
speak all those things she would do with me. So
so you know, me and Happy were set buddies. We
were always we had a good routine. She trusted me,
like I would notice, like even from very early on,
like like I said, she would get nervous when the
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like we would get a take, the crew kind of
rushes in because everyone wants to go to lunch and
hurry up.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
And do stuff.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
So that the cast would get out, the crew would
rush in, and that that's always the moment where Happy
would kind of freak tense up and be like because
you know, the chaos would start as everyone started doing stuff,
and she would just be glued to me until we
you know, went back to Shauna or where we'd pass
her off. So I don't mean Happy were always cool.
It was it was it was good.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Yeah, I agree. I think she had known you for
so long, Yeah, that she was fine, you know their bondak.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
Yeah, for sure, that experience like get happy to be
more comfortable than.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Yeah, I think, I mean definitely being around all those
people all the time help. Like eventually she was much better.
It was always just like weird stuff like someone a
grip would be like screwing something like, yeah, wouldn't know
what it was.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
It was just like weird, and she just didn't like
she didn't like the big furry boom.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Yeah, like I remember.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
I also just remember that like Happy would just literally
just like look up and just like stare at it.
And to be honest, I think when you were little too,
you would you would like look up and like be
following everything around.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
But I mean to be honest, So you have to.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Be motivated theo more so than you were.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
But for people, for people who don't know, for people
who don't know what we're talking about, they're these these
microphones like this, but imagine this microphone, but this business hairy,
so it looks like a big animal and it's hanging
over us on a on a on a pole that
the boom guys operating from like ten feet off to
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the side.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
So there's this ten.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
Foot pole over everybody with this giant, three foot hairy
thing and happy.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
You would just be like, oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
And anytime there was no like sound, like if she
had to do something and we knew there wasn't, we'd
always say like, please, commute, does not have the boom.
And that's the case with any animal, to be honest,
like working any sort of animal. I was just on
a job the other day and it was with a
bird and it was the same thing, Like they weren't
rolling sound, they still had the boom them. Could we
just lose the boom because they're always like like, what
you know, So if it doesn't need to be there,
it doesn't.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
Really I think it's I think it's the fur cap
I think that's what.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Them Yeah, right, they don't know what it is.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Yeah, like is something that wants to eat me?
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Yeah, because you.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Know yeah, well, I mean and I think it's also
that like that animal instinct of like I'm gonna I'm
watching you and I'm not.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Gonna take my eyes off of you until you.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Right, Yeah scary.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
Yeah, it's got to be like a predator prey kind
of reflex of like, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Also just remember like I always thought Happy was much
bigger than she wasn't like, because there's times where like
I I don't know why I would do, but I'd
help pick her up and like move her if I
felt like people were rushing.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
Yeah, well she was heavy. She was as heavy as
thought she was going to be because she's but skinny,
because but she's like when you would wash her, she.
Speaker 5 (45:48):
Would like say, when she was wet, she shrank.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
A lot, but she was heavy like she was she
was dead stock.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Well, she also when she didn't want to do something,
she'd like buckle down, being like I'm gonna really like
I'm gonna get real strong and real hard to.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
So yeah, I think that was I have.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Well, this is all Happy I know do you know
what people still do this day are like where is Happy?
Speaker 4 (46:15):
She's still alive.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
I'm like you guys, you know she's you know, record me.
So let's just put this in perspective like Happy is
no longer with me and just Happy lived a very
good life.
Speaker 6 (46:31):
Sela, thank you so much for coming down and telling
us about Happy's retirement and life and stuff after the show.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
And it's really nice to to reminisce.
Speaker 6 (46:41):
I think, like I was excited to do this because,
like like you said, when we go out to events
and things, now, Happy is with us in spirit and
is you know, is a part of the show, like
a really like pivotal integral part of the show and
us right, so it's cool to talk to you about
happy life and and give her the love the prop
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she deserves.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
It was a good time for sure. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Well, this was amazing and we appreciate you so much
and we are just so great to reconnect.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
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Speaker 4 (48:01):
Then, if you don't, you go
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Your own
Adele rules because I don't drink, but I'll drink the
fake stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I do. I drink the fake.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Poly girl has an na beer too. That's that's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
I don't I'm not a big beer drinker. Still't like it.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Don't why either, You don't know? You just don't like liquor.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I'll drink like like cocktails, got it, Cosmas, Yeah, Margeritas.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
Tell us.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
We're up where we're doing it?
Speaker 5 (00:35):
All right, we're doing it. Welcome to catching up with
the cam Dins. I'm David Gallagher, I'm a Canty.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And I am Beverly Mitchell.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And we have a very special guests and the people
are very excited to hear what you have to say.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Shanna Stufferdini.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
And you may not recognize her name, but you will
know who she worked with. Yes, the very dear Happy.
So you are the keeper of all happy secrets.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I was happiest trainer.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, for many years, like a gazillion years.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
It was a long time.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It was a long time.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Seven I think I wasn't in the last couple seasons.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Maybe, well, in my mind, you were there the whole time, kids.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
And then I stayed home with my babies but yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, in my mind you're still you were there, so
I've inserted you into all.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Of my memories.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So I think we really never let you leave, though
we still would like bring you back in.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Sorry, So we're so excited. And by the way, as
much as the people have loved us as characters, I
want to say that I think Happy is everyone's favorite.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
We wouldn't dare put all of everyone's favorite Happy on it.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, I mean we've had Verry on and Barry has
had his memories of Happy, right.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I think they had they had a they had an
interesting relationship.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Very and Happy. Yeah, what would have you think about
these mics?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Would not like them?
Speaker 5 (02:09):
I can tell you.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I can point out a few things that Happy would
not like in this room, the lights, the cameras and
the microphee.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Off and you guys and the people anybody creeping behind
a door.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
So let's start. Let's try to start at the very beginning.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Okay, can you discovery talk about, yes, when Happy was
born and like your your introduction to Happy, and when
you started working with Happy and like and then you're
when your your experience coming onto our show and stuff
(02:46):
like that, because in the very beginning.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Happy had another trainer, Sean.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So your name has to start with Sean.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah, yeah, So she was So we got her as
a rescue and she was at a shelter, and a
lot of our dogs we got at shelters like we
would just go, oh, that dog's super cute. We think
it would, you.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Know, and we is.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
So the company I worked for was Animals for Hollywood,
Boon's Animals for Hollywood, and they did all kinds of
like movies, TV, all kinds of stuff with animals. We
owned all of our own animals and trained all of
our own animals. So we got her to shelter and thought, oh,
she's such a cute dog. She'd be really cute for something,
you know. And she was fairly young at the time,
(03:28):
and I remember Seventh Heaven called and wanted to see dogs,
and so one of the other trainers brought a bunch
of dogs down and brought Happy just as like a
oh were. We would take them with us all the
time when they were new, so they could get used
to riding in the car and being around people and
just being out all the time. And we didn't really
know like her personality or if she was gonna work
(03:50):
out at the time, because some dogs were really great
and some were not. And so I remember Brenda saw her,
I was like, that's the dog, that's the dog I want.
And we had just gotten her, so we had no idea,
like you know, she wasn't trained, We didn't know how
she was going to be. And so that's who they
picked and they loved her and and she was she
(04:12):
got better. She was she was just very shy. She
like didn't we don't really know what her situation situation
was before we got her. They said that she was astray,
that they found her on the street and she was
just astray somewhere. So that was you know, who knows
what her situation was. She didn't love guys, No, she
loved women better. She was fine with like the kids.
(04:34):
I feel like she was okay, and she liked Stephen
like she liked all the guys and that were there
all the time because she was so used to seeing them.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Once you put in.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
The effort, I think that the key was like you put.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
In the effort.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
But also little known fact, Happy was the first Camden cast.
Happy had Happy was cast before any of us.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
We had to go through this long process. They saw
happy and they were like.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That breda cast happy first.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah. So she when it was people
that she knew that were there all the time, she
was fine. But when somebody knew or she didn't love,
like the stairs, Like if she was in a scene
and somebody had to calm downstairs and she could hear
them back there but didn't really know like what it was,
she didn't love it. I remember there was one scene
where I think Stephen had to walk over her, like
(05:28):
she was laying down and he had to like step
over her with like a briefcase, and she didn't really
love that. So there are certain things. But it's funny
because she loved to be there. Like in the morning,
you know, she would get in the truck and when
you would get to set, she would run onto set.
You know, I was because there, you know, we were
like in an area where there wasn't really anything around,
so she kind of had you know, I would just
let her go and she would run right into stage
(05:49):
with me following hers. So it was kind of funny.
She was shy, but yet then like.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It's like she got stage fright.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
She liked being there with the honest, but then like
once you put her in the camera situation, she's like,
I don't like that.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah right.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I feel like over time, like you said, everyone had
to kind of put time in with Happy, So even some.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Of the crew and.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
The people in the different departments all kind of built
rapport with Happy over time. But when we were filming
something and there's a hundred of us kind of huddled
into that space, then she'd.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Be like, what's tearing out?
Speaker 6 (06:21):
She never seemed to get used to the fact that
once the lights were on and she was in the
middle of it, that she would be surrounded essentially by
a big crowd of people.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
She did not like that.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
In the boom especially, I don't think she ever liked this.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
Like how often did you have you kept Happy fluffy
and clean.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Or was it?
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yeah, I did, I kept her fluffy and clean, and
she was not easy to keep was constantly brushing her And.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
How often did you have to bathe her?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
So we didn't work every day, obviously, there were some
weeks we didn't work at all, and then there were
some weeks we were there every all the time. So
it just depended like if it was you know, we
hadn't been there for a few days, and I would
always bather before we would shoot, you know, but if
she was there for multiple days and it was fine.
But just the brushing alone was like she had like
a very weird she didn't really shed her hair. Was
(07:11):
her hair was like yeah, and she I don't feel
like she really shed. It was more like hair. Yeah,
So she had to brush her constantly.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
Did you guys, I know that you were like looking
for a double for Happy for the longest time.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
At any point did the search was it ever called off?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
We got a dog at one point, and I didn't
think it looked anything like her, Like I don't know
if you guys remember, it was like a white dog.
It kind of had short hair. I remember I brought
it like for probably a few seasons. We never used like,
we never used it on the show, and I just
didn't think it really looked like I think.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I think Happy was so unique.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
There was no found a way to find what.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Would you guess?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Yeah, I think she was like a wheaten terrier mix. Interesting, yeah,
but she did. I I mean we looked for years
and years and years and never found And she's amatch her.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I mean, from what I remember Happy is about the
height of this.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
She was probably like thirty five panels or something like.
I would say she was like a medium sized dog.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
Yeah, just remember seeing her trot onto stage with yeah
hair and this very swift trutch.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
And she loved to lay on the beds, like in
the rooms that were being used. She was just hang
out on the And I think I think one of
the questions a lot of people have is like, what
was Happy's life like outside of right?
Speaker 6 (08:33):
Yeah, so what when when you guys wrapped on set
and you guys hopped back in the truck and went
back to where it boons, right, so that to the
facility where you keep your animals? Was what does that
like for Happy?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
For the most she stayed at my house a lot
of the time. So most of the time she just
lived at my house, which you know, so she would
just come home with me, and once I had kids,
because I did work on the show a little bit
after I had kids, and she didn't really love like
necessarily being like my house was all quiet, and then
I had told is running around and she was like,
I don't know about that. The most part, she stayed
with me because we would get up early in the
morning and go. Yeah, so she just lived at my house.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
What was Happy's personality outside of she was good?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Like she was like she loved Joe. Joe actually took
over for me. Yeah, I was when I had Logan,
my first kid, and for a little while, and so
she loved him. She was always really great with him.
And I think because obviously, you know, she saw him
at home, so she was always fine with him.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Is that why he took over because he was Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
I think that that was a good reason. You know.
A part of it is because you know he she
had already known him.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
And also you are both the animal trainers. Yeah, like that.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Was we were both amal Wasn't wasn't.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Who was.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Something really cool too?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Yeah. So he is a master falconer, so he trains
a lot of birds of prey. So we do that
for studio stuff. But then he also, which is odd,
works at landfill's to like keep seagulls away really because
landfills get they get fined if there's too many seagulls
care bring trash out of the landfills go and they
(10:05):
he lets him go to the falcons hie on their own.
They don't like catch the seagulls. They just eagles.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
See the falcons they they heard them out.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Yeah, so they basically take them out of the landfill.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
There are a lot of like birds of prey where
I live, Like tons of eagles, like I've lived and
seen thirteen fourteen eagles.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
That's awesome.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
Yeah, and hawks and all of that stuff. But I
think about Joe. Yeah, she's the bird guy.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yes, but he used to do the shows at Universal too.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
He did.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
So we met at school be like animal training school,
and that's where we met. And then his actually has
a twin brother that also went to that school who
married a girl in my class. Kid is a huge family.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Of animatur it like identical twins.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah, identical. Yeah, that's also a bird trainer. Yeah. Wow,
they're the same person.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
What is this animal?
Speaker 5 (10:56):
We will? We will take outbreak, We're going to get back.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Okay, hold your horse and you'll be back. Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
So we were dying to know more. Okay, so you're
a family of animal trainers.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
And you guys met.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
When did you guys meet? So we went to there
is a college and it's still going and it still
exists in more Park and more Part. Yeah, I think
now they call it America's Teaching Zoo, but they take
like fifty kids every year, and you it's a zoo
like you. They have lions and tigers and wow, all
kinds of primates, like all kinds of stuff. And so yeah,
(11:40):
we went there. He was the year above me, him
and his twin brother, and then a girl in my class, Michelle,
married his brother, and then I married Joe.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
That's so crazy.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Yeah, and then and we both have two boys.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
So wow. And because also you didn't only have happy
on our show, you also brought some other fun animals enjoyed.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
There was one of the chimps that we had was
on it one episode, which was really fun because I
was It was one that I was raising, so that Chaos. Yeah, yeah, Chaos.
And then we did horse stuff when he was riding
horses a lot, so.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
We had camels too.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Wait, we're screwing over this chimpanzee. Like we're just like
like we're not young.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, but hold I'm just hold on.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
We can't just be like, oh yeah, And there was
a chimp and his name was Chaos and let's move on.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
And his name was Chaos.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Please we need to know more details. I remember Chaos,
but like I want to know what is it? Like
like one because a chimp is on it.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
They're like kids with ady D.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
I used to be like a toddler that can kill you.
It's like kill You should have.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Seen this morning that was that was her just chaos.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah yeah wait, so wait tell us more.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
So we had him for We had a few chimps
that bon always had for a long time, and so
when we got him, he was young, and so we
would people would take like keep them and basically raise
them as like.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
A baby kid.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yeah, like you had to watch them twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
You know, at what age do they become unsafe to
work with?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Usually around like it depends like if you're a woman
or a man. Obviously men can it's longer like a woman.
I would say like two three maybe.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, okay, yeah, And then how was Chaos on the show?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Like I forgot what he was? He was young. I
don't remember with him. Yeah, I don't remember, like what
there I remember remember whether the.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Story I think Sean came on.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
Yeah, probably because I remember being like sit on your hands,
sit on your hands, case.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Everything. Why because they're just like curious? Yeah, they just
want to touch everything. I mean literally, they are a toddler.
Like it's like if you threw a two year old
into you know, a room, a very strong to yard,
like a manly to your right, a strong Yeah, did
you guys?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Like, do people train snakes to do stuff?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
No? But they actually what they do a lot now
is it's kind of along the lines of what Joe
does with seagull stuff. Is they do snake abatement on
sets because like you go to Disney ranch or you
go to a Melody ranch, any of these places that
are big ranches and they're full of rattlesnakes. So they
have a trainer that goes and catches rattlesnakes and make
sure that.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So they're just like rattlesnake catchers.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Who was the guy who has the grizzly bear?
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Oh gosh, there's not a lot of people that have
any of that.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
There's one guy, but there's a lot.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
What's the bear's name too, there's like a bear that's
Biden Like everything right, yeah, Bob, it's.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Something like that. You know what I'm talking idea.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Who you're talking about? And I can't remember what it's
what did.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
He go to that school, the same one that you guys.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I'm not sure. Do you guys did a lot of
people did you know a lot of people know a
lot of the like older older trainers that they did not.
But it's been around a very long time. I think.
Actually it just went a couple of years ago. They
had a fifty year reunion, so it's been around over
fifty years.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
The uh, when you guys train at the at the
zoo training facility, it is there like generalized training and
then specialized for certain animals or do you guys all
train in all animal care and training? Like how much
of it is is you guys learning kind of the
(15:34):
broad strokes of it, and then how much of it
goes into.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Specialization for like special.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Animals like a bear, imagine, but you need special training
to deal with bears, right, like falconing and things like that.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah, for the most part, like the general training principles
kind of relate to everything, so you're still using you know,
positive reinforcement and those things all kind of work into
every kind of animal. But we all kind of did everything,
Like you know, we had cats, like we did big
features with like you know, fifty cats I did, which
(16:06):
was all mice, So that was like something I remember
the seventh seven it was, yeah, that I worked on
for like little Yeah, yeah, all the Stuart Littles, cats
and dogs. I mean there was so we did. We
kind of all did everything.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Really, do you have a favorite animal?
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I really like working with primates and that's kind of
one of my favorites just because their their personalities are
so fun and you know.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
So what would be the hardest animal that you would
say that was like the most challenging that you wanted
to like pull your hair out? Not your children, right, humans?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
You can't. Yeah, gosh, I'm trying to think. I mean
cats were always hard because they're cats and they're stubborn. Right,
did you guys doate?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
You did the Pirates one right?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah, Joe did Pirates for years, like all the did,
the Capuchins and the.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Birds on Pirates, the monkey, the little Monkey.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, how many of those.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Were just like they did.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
They shot in like Australia, the Bahamas, all kinds of places,
so it was kind of fun because they.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Were quarantine like for this.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Australia was brutal. It was like they I can't remember
what the actual time was, but they had I actually
had to build a quarantine facility like on the location
where like only the trainers could go and clean them
and feed them every day, and they had they couldn't,
you know, they had to be there for a certain
amount of time before they could even I'm surprised. It
(17:39):
was actually really really hard to get them there. And
then I remember the Bahamas, there was like a hurricane
at one point and the whole crew left, but then
they had to take bands. Couldn't leave because then it
would have taken so long to get them back. So
they only the trainers stayed.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
And the trainers had to stay in the.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Path of her.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
It was all fine, I mean, it was okay.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
So I mean, so training Happy was just like a
cake walk.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Yeah, I mean it was a good job. And I
remember it being like I remember it so fondly because
like I wasn't that much older than you guys, so
like me and Barry are the same age. Yeah, so
I was only like twenty twenty one when I was
doing it, and so.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I I mean I remember hanging out with you.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yeah, yes, yeah, Hansy was I have pictures. Was in
my wedding. She was my flower girl in my wedding
and Beverly was out the wedding. Yeah, and so yeah,
I know, so I when I think back about it,
it was hands down my favorite job. Like when I
think back, yes, yeah for sure, because I was going
to work and like just hanging out with my friends
(18:48):
all day. Yeah, it was very cool.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
I was so sad.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
That's the one thing I do remember.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
It's just like we were all very you know, we
like we really were a family, like like and David
has said, like with our crew as well, like like
you were one of us.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, you know, like it did.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
There was no separation between cast and crew. We were
all just to like, yeah we were casting crew, like
just like.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
He's just such a like easy going, fun like place
to be, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Yeah, yeah, there was atmosphere even when we were like
running behind or whatever. It never there were obviously over
the course of all the years, we had our days
like all sets do. But like I think ninety nine
percent of the time it was it was a great
place to be and spend the day and work in
the you know, in the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, and you know what, I think I'm just starting
to realize there was when Happy had puppies on the show.
I'm pretty sure the puppies were actually like we. They
were from they were either I had some connection to them.
I think they were because they were my friends puppies
that we had just and so we needed puppies and
(20:02):
we're just like, here's the puppies, yea, and they had
they looked nothing like Happy because they.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Were Rember them not looking like you, because it was like,
you have to find whatever puppies you can get at
the right time.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
And I pies from yesterday and.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I like little potatoes and different colors.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
When we get back, I'm going to ask about Happy's retirement.
So we're back and we've been learning about all of
the different animals that you guys have trained and work
with and other projects you guys have done. But we
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we ended our show so long ago, and I'm just
really curious and have been since we started doing this,
and uh, and we knew we were going to have
you on. I want to know what Happy's retirement was like.
What was it like for Happy kind of post seventh Heaven?
Did she where did she go?
Speaker 5 (21:02):
And how was her retirement? So to speak?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
She did not work again. She's a one hit wonder.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
She did it. She didn't need to work.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
She worked her whole life. She was resting when the
show was over. But she was fifteen when she passed away,
which wasn't too much like after the show actually ended,
so she you know.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Like fifteen, it's a good life, yeah for sure.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Yeah, so another trainer took over Kathy I think took
over when I left, and she did it for a
couple more years I think, and then lived with Kathy
during that time and then yeah, I passed away at fifteen,
so she was an older.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Was she at somebody's home or was she back at
the rapes?
Speaker 5 (21:43):
She was, so she retired as a house do Yeah
for sure? That makes me happy.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so she she lived her happy life.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
She did. And it's funny because she was the One
thing about her is that she was always happy to
be there because she just wanted to be with whoever,
like was her person, Like whoever her trainer was was
definitely her person. And so if she was with that
person every day, she was like happy to be there,
you know.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Okay, So yeah, she was definitely connected.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Like once she connected to you and decided that she
loved you, like she loved you and she was, and
once she decided that she didn't really care for you,
like she she kind of held onto that way.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
She definitely her people.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Yeah sure, I know, you said, like because a lot
of it is food based, you know, reward system R.
You had like a few different things that you would
have in your pouch for happy and hot dogs were
one of them, but also those little roll cube yeah yeah,
nature balance Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
That was like a meat yeah yeah, cut up into
little chunks. Yeah. And she liked that. She wasn't a
huge worker for food like she would eat sometimes she wouldn't.
Sometimes you'd give her like a piece of something and
she'd spit it out. And I remember that because she
definitely wasn't like a food driven dog. Yeah, it means,
which is funny because she just like worked because she
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would just wanted to do it, like yeah, she was
just like okay, I'll you know, sit and lay here.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
And I can it.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
But I do remember that you'd give us sometimes like
we were the ones that were giving, And I do remember,
like I feel bad because like Happy would spit it out.
I'm like Happy eating like like because I'm like, no,
you need to have it and she's like I want.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
It, and like I felt like I was failing.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
I'm like no, and I really feel like because sometimes
we would get the treat to keep Happy with us,
or we'd reward her afterwards or whatever. But I feel
like once as the day to day goes, and maybe
it was particularly with me because I did so much
stuff with Happy, but we would she would just like
click to my to my leg and she would I'd
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move to my different marks and she would stay with me.
And then when when we would get the take and
kind of wrap it up, either you would come to
me and take the dog or I would bring Happy
to you wherever you were off to the side, and
then I'd go okay, and then I we'd and then
Happy would click for me to you click, and then
she was okay, and yeah she was.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
She always wanted to be like up against body or something.
She didn't really love to be out in the middle
of her room for some reason.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
She didn't want to be surrounded.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
She wanted the security of like feeling that safe body next.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
To her Happy, like I remember like she had the flash,
but like what's happy panting sounded like.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
And she had really white teeth.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
She did have really white teeth, I know a lot, Yeah,
get her like they would.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
She did not have like you know, atrocious dog breath.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
No, she didn't have, because I remember there's plenty of
times where.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
She would she was well groomed. Yeah, yes, she was a.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Diva for sure years.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
How I'm curious.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
I'm also curious, and I don't I don't know, So
what is the This is maybe a strange question, but
like how does happy who gets paid like for Happy's work?
And and then how does that work? And then is
that is happy to get residuals?
Speaker 5 (25:05):
What is it?
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Like what happens like the farm gets paid for happy
services and then you're employed by the by boon and
is that how that works?
Speaker 4 (25:15):
So what it was was so all animal trainers actually
get paid by production and we're part of Teamsters, so
okay in the Teamsters union, Like that's the union they
put us in like way back in the day because
we would drive horses to set like and that's why
cool history, that's why you are in the Teamsters union.
So we would we would, so we were so we
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would get paid by production with that still to this, Okay,
that's how it is.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I never would have considered you a teamster.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Yeah no, but that's such a cool historical holdover from
like the old West Hollywood of good old New Haul.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Yeah, everyone's like, what you're a team star. That doesn't
make any sense, Like, well, because we drive animals to
set basically so, and then yes, they would get a rental,
like the animal company gets a rental for whatever the animal.
It's usually like a daily fee. If they're on like
a long show.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
It's paid by the day.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Yeah, like a weekly fee or whatever. But it's always
like a set amount and that's basically to cover you know,
just all there, like she most certainly did. It was
doing well, Yeah, there is no double there was, Yeah,
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and it was a great gig for me because I
was on like a weekly rate and I was sometimes
was hardly ever there, like you know, I was there
one day, some weeks I wouldn't be there at Also
it's definitely yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
But they needed you anyway, and.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I always had to be available, I think, happy, always
had to be on call because like so yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
If if like we all work because sometimes when it happens, yeah,
people schedule changes.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
You got to get someone.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
In do some other movie. Somewhere or some other job.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
So yeah, you couldn't, I mean a loton.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
She was also iconic, like typecast because somebody would have
seen me like, oh that's that's that's right, that's nice.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
You know.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Yeah, we need more of a set.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
So I remember there was one point where we you guys,
did the Hollywood Christmas Break and she was supposed to
go do the Hollywood Christmas brein we were supposed to go,
and she got sick like chew day, like a day
before the Hollywood had a set day something. She ended
up having surgery for like some Orgian issue that she had.
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She was she missed, she missed the Christmas break.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Of course I don't remember that in particular either.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
And I also see you brought some goodies.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I have shows. I have some of Mackenzie at my
wedding and oh my baby shower from set, because I
everly threw me an awesome baby shower of course on set. Yes,
and so I have pictures from that, which is funny.
I wasking through them the other day.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I remember we were such a little upper girl. I was.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
I was just talking my kids out the dam, that's
all I wore.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Again.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Amazing it. You got to bust out the old bit somewhere,
you know, all the vintage stuff.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I know, I know, and.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I think what that's what's been so fun is like
also having being able to like have you on and
like again, like just reiterate this family that we created
of eleven years and truly like all these huge milestones
that we were able to like kind of share, like
your wedding and your baby shower and all.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
Of these things like like only pregnant, I feel like onset.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
I always had like food in my hands.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I mean, so did all of us. So it's and
we weren't pregnant, we were just hungry.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
But after that, hold on, we're going to come right
back to that.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Let's take a break.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
We all right, guys, we're back, and we're going to
start off by looking at some pictures.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
And we will we will put these up on patreons
so that you can see.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
We're gonna look at them and you can't see them.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
So this is amazing again.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Your baby shower and there's Catherine and Mac is a
flower girl.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I remember going with Mac to I think it was
it was a concert that we went to for your birthday.
Like maybe it was either like New Kids on the
Back back Street Boys and we took like a bus
yep or yeah it was a limo. Mom said, oh,
come with us, so I you know, one of us
can stay with the girls and one of us can
take some to the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure our adventures were a little different. Yeah,
ours included Remember when I learned how to drink?
Speaker 4 (30:01):
That was different. That's what we That's when we thought
we were so mad.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I think some may have happened in this house, but we.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Don't need to talk about that time.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah we did.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Oh, I forgot about all of our photo shots.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I just loved had a little stamp she used to
have to yes Happy.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Her Happy's autograph was her propera.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
And I would get letters all the time. She Happy
would get letters. She probably got more fan mail than
we bought a fan mail. And I would always send
one of her little headshots with the pop print.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean the fact that people thought that
Happy could respond to.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Send them a picture says a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
And ate they would also send like like real notes,
like Happy could read.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Yeah, we would get letters quite often actually, and I
would always try to send up.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
So did Happy. Ever, she she just got the picture.
She didn't write back, she had nothing really to say.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Did Happy get the most fan?
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Oh yeah, for sure, that's what I thought. Yeah, I
mean Happy, it was a real star Happy my mom.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
There's Tracy too.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Yeah, I'm sorry. It was usually from like kids, you know,
little kids that would write and say like, oh, we
you know love Happy, Yeah, we love Happy, and you know,
can you send us a picture? So that's pretty sweet though.
It was cute.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
I mean Happy, I think was like unlike on most shows,
where like the dog was like an extra like fixture,
Happy was.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
A true character.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Like Happy was like truly had storylines. She was Yeah,
she wasn't just the dog on set, right, she truly was,
Like I mean, she has her own title card, she's
and half is treated super well too, Like on that show,
everybody was so nice.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
She got her own room and trailer and as far
as like animals go on sets, she was always like
set up really well. So it was nice.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
So would you say that like we we were the best.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
To our for that's that's that's awesome.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
I like to hear that validation.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I just I love to hear though that like, not
only did we care for the like we we went
the extra mile and took care of our own.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Yeah, I was happy. They were always very accommodating for her,
which was nice and me too, which you know, I
appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
So what would your dream job be? And like training
these days?
Speaker 8 (32:42):
Oh gosh, it's a hard question, like would you ever
want to train like a penguin or like, like I'm in.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I don't know. I really liked doing the dog stuff.
I think that. I mean, I do like the primate stuff,
but it's just a different kind of job. So I
I really like the cats. It's fun too. I don't know,
I love all of it.
Speaker 8 (33:14):
Really.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
Cats are kind of hard, difficult, hard because they're like
they're very stubborn, for sure.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
You got.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yeah, I have never had another I haven't had a
job that I've liked as much as having this job
because it's just was so nice that it was like
everybody was so you know, great, and the cast was great,
the crew was great. And I've never come across actually
another job that's been the same, to be honest, Like
I've been doing it for a long time and nothing
really compares like it's just not the same as it
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was working on a show with the same people year
after year, which was so great, you know that sort
of I would love to have a job like that.
I mean, I think the people make probably more of
a difference than like what animal I'm working, if that
makes sense.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
Yeah, because that's what the majority of your time is
spent really doing.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Yeah, and it's all great, it's all fun, you know.
So it really depends on the people. I think you're
around it? Do you how do you like?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
So what do you What do you like about working
with primates?
Speaker 4 (34:10):
It's just fun. They're fun. They're like, you know, their personality.
Everyone has their intelligence. Yeah, they're super smart. They each
one has like a very different personality, Like we, uh,
the primates on Pirates or the I'm sorry, the monkeys
that were on Pirates. There's two of them and they're
both very different personalities. Like one is a boy and
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it like loves women, super outgoing, super nice. And then
there's a girl and she does not like women at all.
And Joe worked them on Pirates and she really doesn't
like me because they get like very possessive competition. Man. Yeah,
so like their hierarchy is very interesting. So just she yeah,
she doesn't like me at all. So it's just their
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personalities being so different. I always think is very fascinating.
And they're so like human like honestly, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
What's your favorite animal to work with or train?
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Bugs? I don't like bugs.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
You can train the bug.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
I mean we did use bugs for stuff, and I'm
not a huge fan of I would take snakes over
like bugs and spiders any day.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Do they still do they still use the straw to
blow air on the spider to get it so bad?
Speaker 5 (35:22):
I remember that.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, we got a question from our audience here, what's
the easiest.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Animal to the hardest animal? Just to train.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Hardest? I would say, like mice were pretty hard to train.
I'm gonna be honest, because there's no like food involved,
you know what I mean, like anything that.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
You can't like really I thought that's the thing that
like mice.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Like, Yeah, but they don't like you're not like they're
not food driven. Yeah, you're not using food to train
them necessarily, Like there's no positive that you can't that's
how you catch them. Yeah, yes, some of them.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Well, I mean it is hadams.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
I think the easiest. I mean, primates are super smart,
so like that's easy. But then there's like other different challenge. Yeah,
there's other reasons that make it hard. So it really
just depends on They all have like easy hard things
that are just different from one another.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Do you remember anything that was like for Happy that
was like the one episode where like either she struggled
or that like she was like awesome at like one
like like the high end and the low end, like
one that like I didn't think we were going to
be able to pull this off, but we did. Or
there was one thing that like Happy just would not
do well.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
The thing I was saying, why we're like anybody had
to Like like when Stephen had to step over her
was super hard because they wanted her laying down and
like her head down, and anytime he went to step
over her, like it was such a trust thing that
she like didn't like it. Okay, she did it, but
she definitely was like, wait a second, why is this
giant man stepping over the top of me? So that
was hard. We at one point we're trying to teach
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her like she had to shake her head and she
it was really hard to teach her to shake her
head like she was us to be wet or something
and shake her head. That was really hard. I remember
she didn't realize she was just didn't pick it up.
I was like God. But and she didn't love being
at the top of the stairs when everybody was at
the top of the stairs. I remember that, how like
all of us. Yeah, and then he like eight of
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us up there like rammed all the kids, and it
was like the size of like a you know, it
was by five handying or something. And so she was
always like over you know. She was always like, oh
my gosh, there's way too many people showed what in
my five spot?
Speaker 6 (37:30):
So Happy obviously new was a was a well trained
professional dog and knew all the basic stuff, but like,
what's the suite of tricks beyond the kind of sit, stay, come,
lay down, Like, did Happy know any more specialized tricks?
Speaker 4 (37:47):
She did the most was like you always had to
do like you know, all those sit stay, lay down,
head down so like in their head, you know, because
they always wanted her like on a bed, like with
their head down looking cute. Her reaction was just liked
to learn how to She knew how to bark on
command because you know. She always had to speak. Yeah,
remember that speaking a lot. Yeah. She like could shake,
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she could like turn in circles. Yeah yeah, so and
roll over yeah, roll over. Oh, cover her eyes. She
did that all the time. Do you remember, Always like
she'd be embarrassed or something and they'd make her.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, like whenever, like whenever Eric and Annie were kissing.
I think there's like.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
She's just like a kid, like.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
A solid suite of TV.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
So she covered her eyes a lot. And then when
you were saying like following you around, she had a
go We called it a go with, So they were
trained to like go with some so we'd say go
with and they knew to like follow that person, and
they really were supposed to be like, okay, I'm touching
yourself with you. Yeah. So that was and then like
first studio stuff. We always teach a dog to hit
a mark. So yeah, you know they put a mark
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on the floor and they walk in hit their mark. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
What was Happy's color mark?
Speaker 5 (39:00):
I don't know, she remember she.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Had s one, right, didn't she have one?
Speaker 4 (39:04):
That was like I don't really, I don't I remember.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I do remember her A special mark.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Was like a like a fabric thing.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
I think at one point it was I think originally
it was like something bigger, but I think it got
down to like a piece of tape.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Yeah, she goes and the queue for that was mark
right after Happy retired.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
Did she ever just like like any of her tricks,
like like the I cover, Yeah, we do it.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
All the time. And I had, like you know, had kids,
so their kids, their friends would come over. It's like,
oh wait, what to see all this suff Happy does?
So she got to do her tricks.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Nice, so she still got to like well because I
think did she enjoy performing kind of she liked I.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
Would always say that she loved being there and being
with people. Like you know, you always think like, oh,
people have a dog and they leave it at home
all day while they're at work. But she got to
go with us to work, and.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
We were our dogs to work.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Yeah, And so you know, I think like as far
as dogs go, they're always happy to be with the
person and instead of living at home, you.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Know, would never miss an opportunity to tagle on all.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Yeah. Right.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
I don't know if you guys remember, but we my
dad had two rots. I remember No.
Speaker 6 (40:17):
Madden Sonia's two big, big ass rots from the East Coast,
so they and they were East Coast rots. They were
big and by we had a big truck and uh
my dad had like a big pickup truck, and so
he he had to bring the big the red baron
he called it. It was a big F three fifty
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but now it's the size of an F one to fifty.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
But like, you know, it's the back that was after fifty.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
But he had to bring the the I forget why,
but he had to bring the rottweilers with us to
set that day for whatever reason, and he just he
just kept him in the back of the truck like
he didn't even My dad hung out in the parking
lot at the red truck all day with the rottweilers
and you know, because they weren't like the.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Sweetest dogs at all. My dad's rott Whilers were not
the nicest dogs.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
But but after that there was like a set notice
about like you know, personal pets on set. You know,
don't don't bring your personal pets.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
Like they didn't even get out.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Of the truck because you guys had your kis the
whole time.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
You guys had little dogs. Yeah, my dad had two
giant rot whilers with an.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Attitude brought I think you also helped me get my
my goldens talker. Yeah, and then's and then you helped
me get my first golden and I brought back to
this house right.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
My head, Yeah, Ted, he was very nice Golden.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yes, we have another question.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
And had a fear of man. All right, as we've
discussed this before, did you notice.
Speaker 7 (41:56):
A change I either wanted behavior when from kid too
man into the show?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Was there in change?
Speaker 6 (42:04):
Man? I mean not that I not that I noticed.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
I was happy.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
I spent I think, you know, kind of time at
the hip with Happy. I was probably top of the list,
you know. So so me and Happy were cool.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
Like Happy would follow me, Happy would listen to me.
Speaker 6 (42:24):
I was able to get her to do like trick, sit, stay,
speak all those things she would do with me. So
so you know, me and Happy were set buddies. We
were always we had a good routine. She trusted me,
like I would notice, like even from very early on,
like like I said, she would get nervous when the
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like we would get a take, the crew kind of
rushes in because everyone wants to go to lunch and
hurry up.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
And do stuff.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
So that the cast would get out, the crew would
rush in, and that that's always the moment where Happy
would kind of freak tense up and be like because
you know, the chaos would start as everyone started doing stuff,
and she would just be glued to me until we
you know, went back to Shauna or where we'd pass
her off. So I don't mean Happy were always cool.
It was it was it was good.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Yeah, I agree. I think she had known you for
so long, Yeah, that she was fine, you know their bondak.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
Yeah, for sure, that experience like get happy to be
more comfortable than.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Yeah, I think, I mean definitely being around all those
people all the time help. Like eventually she was much better.
It was always just like weird stuff like someone a
grip would be like screwing something like, yeah, wouldn't know
what it was.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
It was just like weird, and she just didn't like
she didn't like the big furry boom.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Yeah, like I remember.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
I also just remember that like Happy would just literally
just like look up and just like stare at it.
And to be honest, I think when you were little too,
you would you would like look up and like be
following everything around.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
But I mean to be honest, So you have to.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Be motivated theo more so than you were.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
But for people, for people who don't know, for people
who don't know what we're talking about, they're these these
microphones like this, but imagine this microphone, but this business hairy,
so it looks like a big animal and it's hanging
over us on a on a on a pole that
the boom guys operating from like ten feet off to
(44:32):
the side.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
So there's this ten.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
Foot pole over everybody with this giant, three foot hairy
thing and happy.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
You would just be like, oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
And anytime there was no like sound, like if she
had to do something and we knew there wasn't, we'd
always say like, please, commute, does not have the boom.
And that's the case with any animal, to be honest,
like working any sort of animal. I was just on
a job the other day and it was with a
bird and it was the same thing, Like they weren't
rolling sound, they still had the boom them. Could we
just lose the boom because they're always like like, what
you know, So if it doesn't need to be there,
it doesn't.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
Really I think it's I think it's the fur cap
I think that's what.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Them Yeah, right, they don't know what it is.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Yeah, like is something that wants to eat me?
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Yeah, because you.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Know yeah, well, I mean and I think it's also
that like that animal instinct of like I'm gonna I'm
watching you and I'm not.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Gonna take my eyes off of you until you.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Right, Yeah scary.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
Yeah, it's got to be like a predator prey kind
of reflex of like, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Also just remember like I always thought Happy was much
bigger than she wasn't like, because there's times where like
I I don't know why I would do, but I'd
help pick her up and like move her if I
felt like people were rushing.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
Yeah, well she was heavy. She was as heavy as
thought she was going to be because she's but skinny,
because but she's like when you would wash her, she.
Speaker 5 (45:48):
Would like say, when she was wet, she shrank.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
A lot, but she was heavy like she was she
was dead stock.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Well, she also when she didn't want to do something,
she'd like buckle down, being like I'm gonna really like
I'm gonna get real strong and real hard to.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
So yeah, I think that was I have.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Well, this is all Happy I know do you know
what people still do this day are like where is Happy?
Speaker 4 (46:15):
She's still alive.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
I'm like you guys, you know she's you know, record me.
So let's just put this in perspective like Happy is
no longer with me and just Happy lived a very
good life.
Speaker 6 (46:31):
Sela, thank you so much for coming down and telling
us about Happy's retirement and life and stuff after the show.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
And it's really nice to to reminisce.
Speaker 6 (46:41):
I think, like I was excited to do this because,
like like you said, when we go out to events
and things, now, Happy is with us in spirit and
is you know, is a part of the show, like
a really like pivotal integral part of the show and
us right, so it's cool to talk to you about
happy life and and give her the love the prop
(47:03):
she deserves.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
It was a good time for sure. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Well, this was amazing and we appreciate you so much
and we are just so great to reconnect.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
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Speaker 4 (47:29):
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Speaker 1 (47:32):
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Speaker 2 (47:36):
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Guys, Hey, guys.
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