November 17, 2025 • 52 mins
Taking a little break from the norm! With Season 4 of Fox's "SPECIAL FORCES: World's Toughest Test" coming to a close, Bev, Mack, and David rewind to Bev’s run on season 1 in the Wadi Rum desert.
Bev relives the biggest moments, the good (and not-so-good) behind-the-scenes memories, and the lessons she carried with her long after leaving the Wadi Rum desert.
Plus, the question on everyone’s mind: how do we think Mack and David would fare out there?
We'll be back next week with another special 7th Heaven guest!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey, everybody, we are back. It is catching up with
the Camdens. I am Beverly Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm David Gallagher and I'm McKenzie Rossman.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
And today we're doing something a little different.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Yes, I did what you asked of me, and I
watched all the clips from Saw to It was it
was really uncomfortable to watch you being tortured like that,
and I don't think I enjoyed.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
It very much.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
But but please tell me what was it like filming
a horror film that is also known as that That
that must have been a horrendous experience where you where
you were, where your life was put in danger at
every turn.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It was actually and what were.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I guess that there were parts of Special Forces that
felt like Saw too for sure, because it was very questionable.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
When we got the call for Special Forces, I thought
that they made it. I was actually convinced that they
made a mistake. But then I was like, well, how
many Beverly Mitchell's are there?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Well, I only know of one.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I see me too, And so then I was like
the idiot that just jumped up and was like, oh
my god, they want me, Yes, I'll do it. It
didn't really think it all through, and at this point
it was the very first season the US has never
seen Special Forces and the show.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Special Forces Ultimate European It is show that they crossed
over something it is.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It is a UK show and they do it mostly
with They do it mostly with civilians and then they
have a few celebrity additions, but they have multiple iterations
of civilians doing it. But I was like the idiot
that didn't really want to watch it because I didn't
want to know too much because I knew that if
(02:07):
I knew too much, I would be terrified.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
You didn't want to talk yourself out of it.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
You were number one, though, so were you their first
celebrity they thought of when they were doing the celebrity edition.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I just was the lucky one to be picked as
number one, which was humiliating and embarrassing and terrifying because
they give us our numbers because we basically when you
go into the show, you lose your identity. You are
no longer your name, You are one number.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Well, they try to.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
They do a military style thing, like you had to
address them in the military form. They addressed you as
number one. All that stuff is part of like military
training right, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
They told us when we went into it that it
was going to be like, you know, it's not going
to be like a reality show, Like you're not going
to have like snacks, You're not going to have like
producers to talk to, You're not going to have breaks.
You're like, this is true, legit military training. We expect
(03:09):
this level from you.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Listen up. The next ten days. We freaking own you.
You belong to us. You have no groveling assistance to
pick up your kit. You can't call your agent, No
one's coming to save you. You will suffer individually and
you'll suffer together. And that's the only way through this
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ten day Special Operations Selection course.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Going into it, like I my training like to prep
for it was like literally putting Maisie on my back
in a back carrier and like walking around soccer practice.
So when I say that I wasn't prepared, you mean it,
you guys, I was not prepared, nonfit. Yeah. I wasn't
a girl scout obviously because we were on seventh Heavens.
So I didn't have a lot of the skill sets
(03:58):
that are helpful in military training. I did do I
did talk to a few a Green Beret going into it,
just trying to get like my mental like base figured out,
and I was like, if they can't break my head,
then like I could be okay, I can get through this.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I don't know how well it worked, but I well,
you know, I think I did better than most people
were expecting, including myself. The whole the whole experience was
ten days and we had two big uh missions every
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single day, and then we had usually some kind of
beasting at camp, which I feel like almost those were
harder than the missions themselves.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
So kind of what you said beastings.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
So basically we got our asses eat.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
What are you doing? Taken in that right? What are
you doing back there?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Number one actress Beverly Mitchell is unable to continue.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
What's wrong? Are you hurt? You want to quit?
Speaker 7 (05:25):
That?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
You're all right?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Beasting pretty much THEO b E A.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Okay, like a beasting is when we're not.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Not a beasting? Actually, but that did happen. That did
happen to Gus who actually got stung by be But.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Was he as annoying as he seemed in the episode
that I watched, No.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Gus was lovely. He was like one of my besties,
and I absolutely acord him. I think it made him like, No,
I think that that was completely misunderstood. I think the
hard part for a lot of us is like we
go into this world expecting things to be fair, so
you want to be treated on the same playing level
(06:10):
as everyone. The hard part about Special Forces was there
were so I would say that it was like going
into like life lesson university on overdrive because you're being
forced to recognize things so quickly and deal with them
so fast in such an extreme experience. But like that
(06:30):
with Gus, it was just like he wanted everyone to
be treated the same, and the DS was like, you
don't get to choose that, Like, that's not up to
how we treat each and every one of you as
an individual experience. So no, that's not how this is
going to go. And that was hard. That was really
hard because I was like, well, why are you treating them,
(06:51):
Like why are they getting special treatment? Which they weren't necessarily,
but at the time that's what it felt like.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Got it now that makes more sense.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Though, he's an Olympic athlete who is like such a
badass and has like fought so hard to get to
where he was. So that was also another struggle of
like you see all of us in crazy different backgrounds,
like here, I am like the Seventh Heaven actress with
like Olympians, everyone else's Olympians, and everyone else has like
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a medal.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
You have the most episodes of Seventh Heaven Metal bev.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I do, but I don't think it like measures up
to NBA Championships and Olympic gold medals and World Cup
medals and what else were gonna have there?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Bigger which came first? What was the first challenge? Was
it the rope thing?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
No, the first challenge was falling out of the helicopter
backwards and trying to do it dive.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Oh I didn't see a clip on that.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
It's probably because mine was unsuccessful. That's probably why I
didn't see the clip. Okay, it is what took out
Kate Goslin. It's when we had to take are very
like our first thing. We get there, we have to
get on a helicopter, we have to climb out of
the helicopter backwards, and then we're supposed to stay like
completely straight and they're supposed to kind of like drop
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us at an angle and we're supposed to stay tight
so that way we can rotate and go into the
water head first. And you know me, guys, I had questions.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
And nobody cares to answer them.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I was trying to talk to the DS and like
get question like it would be like, okay, so what
am I I'm supposed to Okay, so you're gonna release
me a little bit and I'm supposed to hold on
and then you're gonna and then he just let me go.
Oh no. So, needless to say, I did a backflop
and I ended up knocking out six ribs out of place.
So it was very uncomfortable for the next few days.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Nice, nice, well done.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, you know, just as I know, like get up
in the morning like boot camp training, like you warm up,
they get you guys, like get the blood flowing. It
was not like military boot camp in the sense that
they were actively trying to build you guys up. It
was just the kind of mental physical challenge aspect, and
you had to just step up to that without any
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sort of like like cold you.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Had to step up to that.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Well. So the very first day we kind of are
on a train on a train and basically they kind
of do a like ambush and they get us and
they take us out of the train and put headcovers
on us and and then made us run through the desert.
So yes, we we did do that, and then we
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got it was about a with your it was about
a mile and stuff. Not yet we would die once
we ended up getting to camp. That's when we're given
all of our burgains, which also known as rucksacks, like
these big bags that also had to always be weighted
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at the same so like they always had to be
I believe it was like forty five pounds, and so
we actually had to like put in sand bags and
make sure that our backpacks were Sorry, our burgains were
always you had to make weight, yes, and they and
if they're not, we all got punished.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
How often did that happen?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I think it happened twice while I was there.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
So how many people? How many contestants total?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
And then how long did you last in that run
of contestants?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Like where did you fall off?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
There was sixteen of us, Okay, it's a lot, and
I made it to the end of day four.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Okay out of ten, so almost halfway time.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Wise, and I was number I believe I was number eight,
so right now to get I was right in the.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So in four days, half of everybody was gone in
less than half the time.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Day one, we lost Kate and then we lost doctor
Drew right away.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Doctor Drew was there.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Yeah, if you're eliminated, do you stay, No, like you
just go home.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
As you're eliminated, you get the next flight home. And
we were in Jordans, so we were actually in the
incredible Waddi Rum desert, which was just a magical and
terrifying place.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
Did you just go there for that and back? Did
you stay and do any sight seeing while we were there?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
We weren't really able to do that. And it was
like we did this at kind of the tail end
of COVID, so like prior to us like kind of
going into the experience, we were all kind of isolated
at the hotel for like a week. And what's crazy
is half of us went to one hotel and half
of us went to the other, and we weren't not
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supposed to like talk to each other, but that didn't Obviously,
I was the first one that kind of figured out
where everybody was, who everybody was, And then we were
having family dinners and we were all getting together and
we were like training on the beach together and then
when we met the other group, the other group had
never seen each other at their hotel. I think their
hotel was a little nicer, but that's okay, maybe that's why.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
But it's not supposed to be fair. Okay, that's the last.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Supposed to be fair. And by the way, technically it wasn't
because we actually had way more fun because in quarantine
we all became My crew was Danny Ammidola, Hannah Brown,
Nastia Lucan, We had uh, we had chef, we had
Drew doctor Drew, and we kind of like all kind
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of got to know each other.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
So if you if there were an exercise that you
didn't get to do because it was after you were eliminated,
what one would you have wanted to do that you
weren't able.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
To I would say I did not I did not
have any desire to do the gas, the.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Gas, the tea dodge that bullet moment.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And I think I think that was the That was
the next day, So it was kind of like not
not too sad because like, if I'm going to go out,
I'd rather go out before that before I have to
inhale toxic fumes. Yeah, you know, it's hard to say.
I think like when I left, I was really bummed
out and was I wanted so badly to stay and
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last longer, more so not because of the tasks, but
to prove that I was more capable. So I was
really disappointed in myself in leaving on day four because
I I really didn't want to leave. I wanted to
make it as far as I humanly could. But we
had that night. What you don't see in the show
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is that night we were on night Watch, so we
were up all night long, and so we hadn't slept
in like thirty six hours or more.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
What do you do to stay awake?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
What we had We always had a buddy, and we
had to do We had to look over camp and
watch and make sure and we were supposed to be rotating,
but some people were not as great of team players
and they slept longer and didn't didn't do switch out.
So of course, me, being the idiot martyr that I
(14:31):
like to be, took over. I was also the girl
that like when the guy, when anybody was hungry and
they needed extra food, I would give up my food
and my snacks.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Speaking of what were the what was the fair?
Speaker 8 (14:44):
Like?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
We got things like hot hot hot chicken noodle soup.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
We got are you sure it was chicken.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
That I don't know. We got cornbef and hash. We
got very interesting food choices that didn't necessarily let's just
say that the tent wasn't always smelling so great.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Well, it's a lot of sodium too, which is probably
good to replenish the sweat that you lost.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, so it was. It was a bit of a
wild the food. The food was not like we'd get
like a hard boiled egg and like an orange and
like a cracker.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
So did you get the same amount of food allotted
to you that like Droight Howard got or same?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
It was the same everything save across. He was hungry.
That's why I gave him. I gave a lot of
my snacks to Gus because I just loved Gus and
he was just always sweet and I could always see
him just eyeing them, like do you want my snacks?
You need that, I know, But I'm the mama bear.
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That's like trying to take care of everybody else, to
making sure that everybody else is okay.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
It's not the Mama Bear show.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I know, but I don't know how to like Mama Bear.
I don't know how.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I don't know how to like gotta starve gus out
of there, guff, you don't.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
God, It's it's amazing what your body will do in
those like few days, especially like being in the desert
and just obviously being like so active and on like
high alert.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
It was clearly a mostly I would say, a mental game.
It didn't seem like too much of it was a
like how fit, how trained are you? You know, kind
of work out challenge. There was obviously heavy physical load
and and stress and stuff, but like the wire stunt, the.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
The car in the water, like uh, the.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Like the endurance stunts, the trust fall, all of those
things were like, we're all mental games like more so
than physical challenges.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
So that someone like you who's not like physically.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Trained for the outdoors in this way, and I would
put myself in that category as well, and maybe not
Mac Actually.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, back would be fine, but you.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
You still had a chance to kind of like overcome
in a way with as long as you could get
your get your shit together here and put yourself to it.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
That was exactly it. And there were definitely games being
played to challenge your chat to see like where the
breaks are in people. Like before we had to do
the rope challenge. I was voted the weakest and Dwight
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was voted the strongest.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
I saw that thing where you all lined up. Yeah,
did you put yourself there though.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
The first time?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
And they made you do it more than once?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Oh yeah, So I was weakest and Dwight was the strongest.
And so I don't think when when the show aired,
they didn't necessarily do it in order, but like we had,
Dwight and I went up to the mountain first, and
I'm sitting here and we're on the top of this
rock and it's like the most beautiful view in the world.
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And I'm sitting there and Dwight was supposed to go
first because he's the strongest, and I was supposed to
go next because I'm the weakest. And Dwight was really
struggling because he for such a tall guy, he doesn't
like heights, and so it was it was a struggle
for him to like get on the rope.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
You got far on the on the on the rope
of I did you got out to the middle right halfway.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I got, Josh halfway, I got I got three quarters
of the way. And what what was very frustrating is
that I the way. It's very strange, but like normally,
if you asked me to do any of these things,
I'd be like, hell no. But then you, like one
put it as is a job, and I'm like.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
No, you lock it.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I mean like if you're there out to uh desert
in Jordan, you were there, it was too late. You
had to like and I know that you're like that.
I'm also like that where like, if I'm not going
to put myself in too many situations, I wouldn't like.
But but if I'm there, we're if we're going, we're going,
you know, like I have that kind of like switch
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where I'm if I've already I'm not going to back
out the last minute exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
So it was weird that like I would just be like,
all right, what's the tack, let's do it. And so
I was able to kind of click in. And when
I had gotten the hardest part was like the rope
started stretching and I just didn't have the bandwidth. I
wasn't like tall enough.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah, so you were you were really extended, which ye
exactly was kind of awful yet.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And so and didn't have the strength to like pull
the rope down. But when I got off and I
had asked everyone how far I went, they all told
me I did not get very far.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Really, do you think it looks that way to them
from where they were?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I don't know, because when I watched everyone else, it
was very clear to see where they went.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
So did you go early?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, I was the second one to go, so they.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Maybe expected that it was easier than it was perhaps
and they figured that halfway is not very far.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
It brought up old emotions of not feeling good enough,
not feeling accepted, and all of those things. So the
mental game hit hard. Yeah, that's all mental games. And
in that sense because again, even though I know that
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it was like a competition, I think.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
The weakest, So nobody's gonna want to like admit to
themselves after that that you did better than they did,
or that you know what I mean, or that they
they did as well as you put yourself at the
bottom of the pack.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
You know, that's an ego game too.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
When it came to the strongest the weakest, she put
herself as the weakest.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
She wasn't willing to put herself out there if you
lack self esteem and confidence.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
As for the strongest to the weakest, where were you weakest?
Speaker 7 (21:19):
Did you put yourself at the back this morning?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I did because I felt that's where the team felt
I should be.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Where do you honestly think you should be?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Not quite at the end.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
That was your opportunity to stick up for yourself a
little bit. Where does that self doubt come from?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Oh, my life, I've never been good enough. I've just
always felt that from grade school to my career, I've
kind of built a shell, always saying that I'm okay
with where I am or how far I've gotten.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Why.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
I don't know what?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Because I feel like I don't want to try, because
I don't want to fail. I'm almost afraid to succeed.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
Don't be afraid of failure. We've failed, we've tripped up,
We've had to pick ourselves back up and go again.
That's where you get your strength, and the only way
you're ever going to succeed is to fail. Anyway, when
it gets uncomfortable or hard, try not to feel sorry
for yourself.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, it was interesting, just because you can see that
it was very much a competition to everyone else. For me,
it wasn't a competition because the only person I was
competing against was myself, because I didn't expect to beat
anyone else, like that's not the course for me. Was
trying to see what I was capable of. So like
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it was a one man show in this sense that
like I I couldn't hold myself to like be like,
can you be as good as Carly Lloyd? Like that
was not on my radar. I would celebrate her when
she did something great. I would celebrate in Nastia, I
would celebrate Hannah. I would celebrate anyone who succeeded because
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I knew it was big for them. So that was
that was a little bit of a of a challenge
because yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
There was a lot of like things.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
It's meant to put you at sort of at war
with yourself one percent.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
It's supposed to crack what's broken, So like any like
minor crack, it is supposed to bust that wide open
and have you explore, like why you feel those things.
And I would say that, like it's been we were
season one, so it's been almost three years since I
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did it, and I would say that I'm still learning
and dealing with the things that came up on that
course and it was only four days. You guys like
it was insane.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Yeah, it was. It was insane.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Bed Did you tell them, you know, this is what
I struggled with beforehand, and did you kind of kind
of have an idea of what you wanted to work
on with based on your personal inventory beforegoing or was
it just you.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Know, they do a psyche val, so they talk to
us and try to like see where we are like mentally,
and then they do like a full they ask you
like what are your fears? What are your thoughts about yourself?
Like you know, they asked me like, are you afraid
of heights? And I'm like, I don't know. They're like,
are you afraid of water? I'm like, I don't know.
I've never put myself in situations in which we have
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questioned those things, so I don't know. They're like one
of them was are you afraid of fire? I'm like,
I like fire. I don't like to be on fire,
but I don't know what that looks like.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
You like camp fire?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Big questions fire, by.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
The way, they did set them on fire, so they
did have the recruits douse and then set on fire
and they had to put themselves out. So that was
a the missions.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I want to skip was that towards the end.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
It was definitely after me. So I'm not gonna lie.
It was not so sad when I was you.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
I'd rather but you would rather do that one than
the gas mask one.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Still, I think I would fire over the gas mask
or not the gas mask, the tear gas. I don't
know the tear. It's just going into a room and
like inhaling, uh, the gas and then having to do
a mission while in the coughing, while coughing, puking, and yeah, yeah,
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all the things fun, cute, cute you guys ready to
sign up?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
BEV. I know, I gotta say, Bev.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
It did not make me smile or bring me any
joy to watch you at your breaking point through the
through some of the clips.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
How was the experience?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I guess talk to us about like your the mission
where you called it, So you guys were doing what
a run at that point? You were you between missions
or where you're in the middle of something and then
you fell over, so you got completely disoriented. You had
the spins which I've had before. It sucks.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah, you couldn't stand on your own two feet.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
You needed a minute to catch your breath and to
kind of to let your your center come back so
you could stand up.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
And they were like go and you were like, I
can't stand.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, yeah, fun.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
It was incredibly uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
So that was another mission where I was put in
charge and arm it. It was me and Scarmucci were
put as our team leaders, and we had Alpha and
Bravo and we had to push a disabled jeep that
was for a mile. The jeep mission.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
We had to sponsor this this show clearly.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, exactly. We had to push the jeep through the
desert over a mile. Then we had to get out
and take everything that was in the jeep up the mountain.
Everything's heavy, like I mean, there's nothing that's less than
sixty pounds, and usually you're trying to carry both of them,
which basically was my body weight, and we also had
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our backpacks that we were throwing in and we also
had to move those two and so we had to
push the jeep through. And the thing that nobody knew
while watching the show was that prior to me even
getting to Jordan, I had stepped on glass, and I
had glass in my foot, and I had gone on
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to a posiatrist, and we like dug out all the
glass when I thought we dug out of all the
glass until we were out. When I was out in Jordan,
and we're on our feet all day, like and just
how much we're on our feet, I had some pieces
of glass that were still in my foot. So that
morning before the whole jeep challenge, they dug quite a
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few pieces of glass out of my foot. So I
had like a hole at the bottom of my foot,
was super sore, and we'd been up all night and
we're going across the desert with like very little food
because of course they gave up a lot of my food.
And I was my body was like did not like
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my head was not connected to my feet, Like I
couldn't feel. It was the craziest feeling that like I
felt like I was spinning. I felt like the whole
I couldn't I couldn't get anything together. I was just
an absolute mess. And when Foxy came up and basically
said get it together, and Dwite even offered to throw
me over his shoulder and take me up the mountain,
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and I said, no, if I can't do it myself, then, like,
I don't want to be a burden to you guys.
And so sadly, even though I did not want to,
I had to call it, and that sucked. I was
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so disappointed in myself because I wanted so much to
to still be there.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Well, I'll tell you what, digging a bunch of glass
out of your foot that morning, yeah, really puts it
into context.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Bev.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Geez, they didn't give you any of that credit on
the show. They didn't mention. Oh, by the way, we
we had to cut Bev's the bottom of our foot
open today and then we made her run up the
mountain or whatever. So I mean it's I mean, it's Bev.
It's it was an admirable like.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Effort.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
You got a lot of spirit and uh And I
definitely am confident, more confident than I was before I
saw the clips that I would not have done this.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Really, yeah, are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
No way, I would not have done I mean I
wouldn't have done this anyway, but having watched you do it,
I'm definitely would not have done it.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
You don't.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I talked to Jess about it, too, because I was
like when I told Jesse I was doing it, she
was like, I don't think this is a good idea,
Like I really She's like she's like I think She
even was like called Michael and it was like, Michael,
I don't think you should let her do this, like
I'm I'm scared for her life, like I don't I
don't want her to go, and and then.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
I was like I can't stop her.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah, Michael's like, why don't you put her out do it?
And decided that she's doing she's doing it.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
You get her to not go. You met my.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Wife, That's true, Mac, would you do it? I could
see you doing it, though.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I would do it probably, I could see you doing it.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
I am afraid of heights, though they will exploit that.
But sometimes I can do things if I have to.
And so you like separate the mentally. So it's so
like a robot body kind of deal. But I don't
know how I would do but me no, likey long
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distances to the ground.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
So you had to do every mission. If you didn't
do a mission, you went home. You didn't There was
a pass or fail situation, but whether you failed didn't
mean that you necessarily were going home. It just meant
that you failed. I had always basically assumed that I
failed every mission. So like when we did the water
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mission or we had to go underwater in an suv,
which while we're sitting there, you're looking at it being like,
this is like how people die. This is not this
is learning, This is like how this is things that
like you don't necessarily say, like hey, pick me, put
me in a car, put me underwater, and then.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Like that it was literally a demonstration of how actors
die on sets.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Yes, it's an absolutely horrifying thing to do. It's be
strapped into a car.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
And then dunked into a bay and then don't worry
the scuba divers outside the car. You're great like, and
then you're strapped in and like you have to get
unstrapped and then swim out the back of the car.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Yep, you can buy like are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And again it's one of those things where you're sitting
there and you're thinking, like, there is no way I
have children. This is not a good idea. I should
not do that. They call my number and I just
run over and I do it. Like it's just like
I don't know what mentally wrong with me. But like
when it's like a work thing, like I will make
an excuse and be like, well, it's for work, so
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I have to do it. Just hire me, Just hire
BEV to do it, and then I'll do it. And
but I remember sitting there like because it took a
long time.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Because also most people getting the truck in and out
probably took forever hunt so you guys are just watching
it get go in and out.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I mean you have to know that. Like to die,
it's a hugely.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Talking about mac people die on set.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Probably safer nobody there. Then you are, you know, walking
down the sidewalk without someone trained in things.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Right, I'll walk down the sidewalk.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
You go in the bay, in the in the in
the old military suv with the scuba.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Divers, just publicity to let actress die.
Speaker 9 (33:52):
Well, I think what was interesting was that we had
to They made us wait, so like once we got
fully submerged, you had to wait and you had to
have your eyes open in the water, hands on the
steering wheel, you couldn't remove your hands, and then you
had to wait until the scuba diver gave you.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
The go ahead, which was you know, a quick squeeze
for you to then find your seat belt, unbuckle and
then go out the right exit.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Did you have to give the diver the belt to
clear it?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
No, you just have You're supposed to like throw it
away because you're supposed to throw it across your body,
because the whole point is so you don't get caught, right.
But when I got out of the water, I was
just devastated and was like so upset. And while we
were waiting for the next person to go you surface,
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Foxy came over and Foxy was one of the DS,
and he was like, like, what are you blubbering about?
I was like, I was upset because I'm like I
failed again. And he's like, did I say you failed?
And I was like, no, but you didn't say I passed.
And he's like, well, I didn't say you failed. And
it was this realization that I also had always just
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assumed that I failed everything. Yeah, I couldn't even in
that moment enjoy the fact that like, I just did
something so insane.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Also that that actor validation of like, yeah, you came
off of the task and nobody said good job to you,
so you it must have been bad, Yeah, which I get.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
You know, we construct these boundaries around ourselves though, like
your main thing was not feeling enough, and then here
you are putting yourself in that box of like, well,
I know I'm gonna fair, but also knowing that you're
gonna fail feels like a safe place because well, at
least if I failed.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I was right, you know. But it is an imaginary construct.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, so we're dealing with a lot of mental trauma.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Mm hm. And look, you beat half of the people,
so you were wrong, and.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
It's really well I did. I did pretty good.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
When you had to film the commentary stuff where you
guys clearly look showered and you.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Know that was before we go into. That was the
night before we went in.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
That's why you still had that that gleam of life
in your eye.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, that's why we were still like curious and.
Speaker 10 (36:17):
The enthusiastics and then the commentary sections after, like they
showered you up and stuck you there to stand there
and say little quips and you would just be dead
in your eyes.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
They should have. They should have, because honestly, I would
love to have known what I would have said in
that moment, because you're also like so exhausted, you're you're
like undernourished, you're like all these things, and you're like
frustrated from being in the course and everything's so fresh
and new, like, oh, I wish because wow, the things
that but they probably couldn't air at all because also,
(36:51):
let me just say this, what they put us through
and what you saw on TV wasn't even the half
of it. There was so much more that we went
through that the audience doesn't ever see.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, because they're just they're cherry picking moments and they're
building out like characters. They want to make the people
who succeed look like they're going to fail. They want
to make the people who are going to fail and
tell them to succeed. That's how you build these reality shows, right,
So you you the suspense is all kind of manufactured,
even though what you're doing is very suspenseful and dangerous
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and stuff, but it's all controlled environment and they're the
editing is what it turns it into an episodic, right
totally with.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
Only doing the sort of interview things before and I
am assuming after they missed out on those like Survivor,
you know, uh, moments of like.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Confessionals like in the midst of the drama.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Well, I think the big thing about the show is
they wanted us. We were completely isolated. Like again, we
couldn't You couldn't talk to a producer. You couldn't talk
like if you wanted to if you wanted anything, Like
if I needed to go to the medic when I
had to get the glass taken out of my foot,
I had to go to the DS to ask them
for me to be able to go to the medic,
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Like if you needed anything, you had to go through them, Like,
so there was no I mean there was. I remember
when we were doing the Water Underwater Challenge, we were
watching the crew like eat snacks and trying to figure
out like ways that we could try to like swipe
by the table and like swipe like craft services, because
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like we were just like long Like I've never had
that experience where I was like so longingly like booking
out all these crew members just being like well. And
then the other thing is like we're so used to
being like connected with our cameramen and are like our
sound and like you know, we're son Like I'm used
to being friends with my crew. They weren't allowed to
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do I did I wanted to, but they weren't allowed
to talk to us. They weren't allowed to like engage
with us at all. So like I was like, it
was really hard because I'm like, but these are my people,
Like why didn't they talk to my camera? Like I
want to talk to.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Them real quick? Can you tell us how smelly everyone was? Thanks?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Oh god, let's just say that life at camp was interesting.
We were responsible for washing our clothes. Some did it
better than others. You had to wash it with soap
and water. And and the hard part too, is like
it we did have like we had stinks and we
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had a shower, except for we didn't have a lot
of water, so like when the water ran out, we
were out.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
But the every day you guys went back to a hotel,
no never.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Just leading to desert in a tent.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
You were in a hint, yes, so it was a butt.
You got a bucket of water and they were like, go.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Ahead, Yeah, we had water and we were we We
did have a few items that we were allowed to bring,
Like I snuck in like sunscreen that like was a
lotion sunscreen because I didn't want my face to be dry.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
That too. She commented that she hopes you guys were
all wearing sunscreen.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
We did have our sunscreen. We had our chats. Say,
we were allowed band aids, and then we were allowed
toodor it I'm choice, and then we were I.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Brought in popular contribution.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I brought in peppermint oil. So I was using that
because sometimes when you're overheating, if you put peppermint oil
on your like pressure points, it will help calm your
body down and cool it down. So I had peppermint oil.
And what's funny is when I left.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
This goes beyond the purview of Pepperman oil, a bev.
I don't think Pepperman oil was up to.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
It saved table stop by the way let me put.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
It this, Pepperman oil saved my life.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
I saved my life. But I will say this. Let
me just tell you this. So we had our bags
and so by our cots, we had like we had
a little cube where we were able to put our stuff.
And when I left, all of the recruits raided my stuff.
And they're like they knew that I had all the
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best stuff, and they took all of my like they
took they took all my stuff, and they're like they're like,
and I think when I said something to them, They're like,
we knew you would want us to have.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
It, and.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
I was like, yeah, which is so funny, but yeah,
they definitely they they definitely took my goodies, which is
fine because I'm a sharer.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Did you get to do a fun ari I shopping
trip before you go?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
When s No, So we did not. We were not
able to pack our bags the bags they packed for us.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Yeah, set your toothbrush stiffness.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Well, we brought our toothbrushes, but those were not in
our backpacks or burgans. Okay, yeah, so those were those
weren't in there. But what was interesting too is also
the friendships that we created on the in like you
kind of create those trauma bonds with like unsuspecting people
that like you wouldn't necessarily like I wouldn't necessarily have
put me as becoming so close with certain people as
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I did. But like Carly Lloyd was kind of like
my rock, but she was kind of like she's younger,
but she was like my older sister. She reminded me
a lot of Jesse because she was just kind of
like when I would get like super emotional or start
talking too much because I get nervous. She was like that,
just stop talking, like just just or she would tell
(42:54):
me to like just take a breath, or like she's like,
you just got to pull it together. You've got this
you but you gotta you gotta dial it in. But
it was interesting because she's so different than me, and
I always I kept telling everyone, I'm like, you, guys,
I am the actress. I am in touch with my emotions,
which therefore means that they're always there. I don't know
how to put them away.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Feel that telling me to.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Stop crying is not necessarily like the best, It's not
it's not going to be the most effective response. But
like I'm here with athletes who they've been trained entirely differently.
They've been trained to like put their emotions to the
back and like have their physical abilities like come forward.
And then Hannah Brown, who was like the sleeper, who
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was on the Bachelorette and who kind of like everyone underestimated,
but like if you want to talk about intensity, and
who like dialed it in and she was just she
was incredible, Like she was able to just compartimentalize and
just like do the task and stay focused and like
get it done. And she's the one who made it
(43:58):
to the end with Carly, and they did incredible which
was so impressive to see these two women like power
through and essentially beat Dwight Howard and Dandy Amdula.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
So did they were those the last four and in it.
I didn't see the rest of it.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah, did you end up having to do.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
That car one?
Speaker 6 (44:17):
Because it Dwight like they when they first put him in,
they said that he was sort of too large for
that and.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
He did do it did but they had to make
adjustments to the car got it because his knees h
didn't quite fit.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
We've never had that problem ever.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
We've never had that problem. I've never like, you know,
I'm also the one out like in the airplane that
like I could stand up and I don't hit my
head on the same It's so great. It's great. And
also you know who was amazing too and who I
absolutely loved and was heartbroken when she left was Melby.
She was just kind of like this wonderful cheerleader and
this like everyone saved space and she was awesome. She
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seemed kind and Jamie Lyn Spears was also became I
was trying to keep her around so that way we
could just miserate about missing our babies. He's gonna be
the longest days of our entire lives and we've had children.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Yeah, when you give birth, you have air conditioning.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
What got her out?
Speaker 1 (45:18):
She I think it just got to be too much
and she you know, it's it's hard because it's also
like there were things that we had to do. We
had to like fight each other, we had to like
saw that. Yeah, that was I didn't enjoy that. And
actually that's what took Montell Jordan, who was also like
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my favorite person to like clean with. We would go
out and clean socks and he was always so sweet
because he would he would clean other people's clothes. He
was just like such a wonderful human. I would say.
The hardest thing about it wasn't the task. That was
kind of the relationships in the tent too, is just
(45:59):
like trying to like find with all these people who
are so uniquely different and trying to find common ground.
That was I had. I had good relationships with certain
recruits and then others we didn't really ever connect. So
that was but you're in close proximity, so you don't
really can't really get away from anybody. There's no escape.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yeah, that's it's I didn't envy the task of at all.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Well, I was hoping that you guys were like ready
to sign up for the next season.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
No, I will not pick up good luck though, you
know to you but no.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
But it was cool. What was cool is after when
we when all was said and done, and after Michael
and the kids and I went to London on a
trip and I actually was able to meet up with
DS Billy and have dinner with him and his wife,
and it was so lovely to like be out take
(47:05):
him out of that experience and be able to have conversation.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
He could be a normal person because being in his
position is a job that requires a certain kind of
coldness and right, yeah, you don't get to show who
you are in that position, really.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
And it was wonderful to have. I think what was
nice is, like you said before, is like what as
actors were used to, like a validation like you did
a great job, Like Okay, that was great, We're moving on.
It doesn't have to be a lot, but there's something there. Yeah,
And so when I was able to talk to him,
it was actually nice when he was like we we
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were blown away by the fact that you lasted so
long and to the point where, like we knew if
we did not get rid of you at this point,
that you might really hurt yourself. So like you when
when we were asking if you wanted to go, we
weren't really going to give you an option. Your option
was you're leaving because you're not going to make it
(48:03):
through the next day, and we knew it, so we
needed to make sure for your safety that like.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
You, they needed to kind of get you out, yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Because they're like they're like, we knew that you were
the one that wasn't going to quit and you would
just keep pushing yourself until it.
Speaker 4 (48:20):
Was until too far happened, until it was.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Too far, and even like I because I told I
was right afterwards. I told Carly, I was like, I
could have made it one more day, and she's like,
the next mission you would have died. Like no, you couldn't.
You wouldn't have made it. You had to go home.
You were done, And I was like, Okay.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
Well, I'm glad you got out alive.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Bev I did from your weird uh sadist masistic vacation
or whatever. However, you justified this in your brain.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
Would you do it again?
Speaker 4 (48:53):
Bev?
Speaker 1 (48:54):
I would do it again. I would like to be better,
in better shape and better. But what I learned about myself.
Speaker 4 (49:06):
She would do it again.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
I think it's because there was so much to learn
and I was so I was pushed to my limits.
And I also think that, like we get so comfortable
that sometimes it's important to be uncomfortable and like. But
but the thing is is like I just take it
to the extreme.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Like, let's just but a lot of people are extreme.
Speaker 6 (49:32):
They it's they live within the gray area is difficult,
it has it's black or white. Like a lot of
people when they go on something a good diet, it's
like they have to start off being like, you know,
very rigid and in need that to make a change.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
So yeah, so I'll just go for the extreme.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
We go from eighteen handle a voyika day to zero vodka.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Day, just like that.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
You know Mac likes to go from eighteen vodkas to
seventeen exactly.
Speaker 6 (50:02):
I'm about that great area.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Are any of the tasks that you saw Are any
of the ones that you're like, yeah, absolutely, that would
that looks like fun?
Speaker 4 (50:13):
Fun? No, I don't know fun.
Speaker 6 (50:16):
I don't know how I would do games, but it
would be fun to try.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Fun enough hindsight.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
Fun, I don't know. I think it was.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
I mean, I you know, And I was also angry
for you watching some of it just because I don't
I didn't like seeing you like put yourself through it
for nothing, for no reason other than to like do it.
I get the reason is like to do it and
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say you did it, so that you could tell yourself
you could do it.
Speaker 4 (50:53):
But also like, come play some board games just coming back.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
I mean, I would love to play board games.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
Difference, and we don't have to like be in danger.
You know, this is uh, We're modern humans. We don't
need this in our in our lives. We we don't
have time for this.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Bev it is true, got it all figured out?
Speaker 4 (51:16):
Well?
Speaker 3 (51:16):
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Speaker 1 (52:18):
Girl, The
Hey, everybody, we are back. It is catching up with
the Camdens. I am Beverly Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm David Gallagher and I'm McKenzie Rossman.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
And today we're doing something a little different.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Yes, I did what you asked of me, and I
watched all the clips from Saw to It was it
was really uncomfortable to watch you being tortured like that,
and I don't think I enjoyed.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
It very much.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
But but please tell me what was it like filming
a horror film that is also known as that That
that must have been a horrendous experience where you where
you were, where your life was put in danger at
every turn.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It was actually and what were.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I guess that there were parts of Special Forces that
felt like Saw too for sure, because it was very questionable.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
When we got the call for Special Forces, I thought
that they made it. I was actually convinced that they
made a mistake. But then I was like, well, how
many Beverly Mitchell's are there?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Well, I only know of one.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I see me too, And so then I was like
the idiot that just jumped up and was like, oh
my god, they want me, Yes, I'll do it. It
didn't really think it all through, and at this point
it was the very first season the US has never
seen Special Forces and the show.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Special Forces Ultimate European It is show that they crossed
over something it is.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It is a UK show and they do it mostly
with They do it mostly with civilians and then they
have a few celebrity additions, but they have multiple iterations
of civilians doing it. But I was like the idiot
that didn't really want to watch it because I didn't
want to know too much because I knew that if
(02:07):
I knew too much, I would be terrified.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
You didn't want to talk yourself out of it.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
You were number one, though, so were you their first
celebrity they thought of when they were doing the celebrity edition.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I just was the lucky one to be picked as
number one, which was humiliating and embarrassing and terrifying because
they give us our numbers because we basically when you
go into the show, you lose your identity. You are
no longer your name, You are one number.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Well, they try to.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
They do a military style thing, like you had to
address them in the military form. They addressed you as
number one. All that stuff is part of like military
training right, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
They told us when we went into it that it
was going to be like, you know, it's not going
to be like a reality show, Like you're not going
to have like snacks, You're not going to have like
producers to talk to, You're not going to have breaks.
You're like, this is true, legit military training. We expect
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this level from you.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Listen up. The next ten days. We freaking own you.
You belong to us. You have no groveling assistance to
pick up your kit. You can't call your agent, No
one's coming to save you. You will suffer individually and
you'll suffer together. And that's the only way through this
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ten day Special Operations Selection course.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Going into it, like I my training like to prep
for it was like literally putting Maisie on my back
in a back carrier and like walking around soccer practice.
So when I say that I wasn't prepared, you mean it,
you guys, I was not prepared, nonfit. Yeah. I wasn't
a girl scout obviously because we were on seventh Heavens.
So I didn't have a lot of the skill sets
(03:58):
that are helpful in military training. I did do I
did talk to a few a Green Beret going into it,
just trying to get like my mental like base figured out,
and I was like, if they can't break my head,
then like I could be okay, I can get through this.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I don't know how well it worked, but I well,
you know, I think I did better than most people
were expecting, including myself. The whole the whole experience was
ten days and we had two big uh missions every
(04:41):
single day, and then we had usually some kind of
beasting at camp, which I feel like almost those were
harder than the missions themselves.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
So kind of what you said beastings.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
So basically we got our asses eat.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
What are you doing? Taken in that right? What are
you doing back there?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Number one actress Beverly Mitchell is unable to continue.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
What's wrong? Are you hurt? You want to quit?
Speaker 7 (05:25):
That?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
You're all right?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Beasting pretty much THEO b E A.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Okay, like a beasting is when we're not.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Not a beasting? Actually, but that did happen. That did
happen to Gus who actually got stung by be But.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Was he as annoying as he seemed in the episode
that I watched, No.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Gus was lovely. He was like one of my besties,
and I absolutely acord him. I think it made him like, No,
I think that that was completely misunderstood. I think the
hard part for a lot of us is like we
go into this world expecting things to be fair, so
you want to be treated on the same playing level
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as everyone. The hard part about Special Forces was there
were so I would say that it was like going
into like life lesson university on overdrive because you're being
forced to recognize things so quickly and deal with them
so fast in such an extreme experience. But like that
(06:30):
with Gus, it was just like he wanted everyone to
be treated the same, and the DS was like, you
don't get to choose that, Like, that's not up to
how we treat each and every one of you as
an individual experience. So no, that's not how this is
going to go. And that was hard. That was really
hard because I was like, well, why are you treating them,
(06:51):
Like why are they getting special treatment? Which they weren't necessarily,
but at the time that's what it felt like.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Got it now that makes more sense.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Though, he's an Olympic athlete who is like such a
badass and has like fought so hard to get to
where he was. So that was also another struggle of
like you see all of us in crazy different backgrounds,
like here, I am like the Seventh Heaven actress with
like Olympians, everyone else's Olympians, and everyone else has like
(07:22):
a medal.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
You have the most episodes of Seventh Heaven Metal bev.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I do, but I don't think it like measures up
to NBA Championships and Olympic gold medals and World Cup
medals and what else were gonna have there?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Bigger which came first? What was the first challenge? Was
it the rope thing?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
No, the first challenge was falling out of the helicopter
backwards and trying to do it dive.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Oh I didn't see a clip on that.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
It's probably because mine was unsuccessful. That's probably why I
didn't see the clip. Okay, it is what took out
Kate Goslin. It's when we had to take are very
like our first thing. We get there, we have to
get on a helicopter, we have to climb out of
the helicopter backwards, and then we're supposed to stay like
completely straight and they're supposed to kind of like drop
(08:14):
us at an angle and we're supposed to stay tight
so that way we can rotate and go into the
water head first. And you know me, guys, I had questions.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
And nobody cares to answer them.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I was trying to talk to the DS and like
get question like it would be like, okay, so what
am I I'm supposed to Okay, so you're gonna release
me a little bit and I'm supposed to hold on
and then you're gonna and then he just let me go.
Oh no. So, needless to say, I did a backflop
and I ended up knocking out six ribs out of place.
So it was very uncomfortable for the next few days.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Nice, nice, well done.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, you know, just as I know, like get up
in the morning like boot camp training, like you warm up,
they get you guys, like get the blood flowing. It
was not like military boot camp in the sense that
they were actively trying to build you guys up. It
was just the kind of mental physical challenge aspect, and
you had to just step up to that without any
(09:12):
sort of like like cold you.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Had to step up to that.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Well. So the very first day we kind of are
on a train on a train and basically they kind
of do a like ambush and they get us and
they take us out of the train and put headcovers
on us and and then made us run through the desert.
So yes, we we did do that, and then we
(09:36):
got it was about a with your it was about
a mile and stuff. Not yet we would die once
we ended up getting to camp. That's when we're given
all of our burgains, which also known as rucksacks, like
these big bags that also had to always be weighted
(09:59):
at the same so like they always had to be
I believe it was like forty five pounds, and so
we actually had to like put in sand bags and
make sure that our backpacks were Sorry, our burgains were
always you had to make weight, yes, and they and
if they're not, we all got punished.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
How often did that happen?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I think it happened twice while I was there.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
So how many people? How many contestants total?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
And then how long did you last in that run
of contestants?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Like where did you fall off?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
There was sixteen of us, Okay, it's a lot, and
I made it to the end of day four.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Okay out of ten, so almost halfway time.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Wise, and I was number I believe I was number eight,
so right now to get I was right in the.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So in four days, half of everybody was gone in
less than half the time.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Day one, we lost Kate and then we lost doctor
Drew right away.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Doctor Drew was there.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Yeah, if you're eliminated, do you stay, No, like you
just go home.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
As you're eliminated, you get the next flight home. And
we were in Jordans, so we were actually in the
incredible Waddi Rum desert, which was just a magical and
terrifying place.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
Did you just go there for that and back? Did
you stay and do any sight seeing while we were there?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
We weren't really able to do that. And it was
like we did this at kind of the tail end
of COVID, so like prior to us like kind of
going into the experience, we were all kind of isolated
at the hotel for like a week. And what's crazy
is half of us went to one hotel and half
of us went to the other, and we weren't not
(12:00):
supposed to like talk to each other, but that didn't Obviously,
I was the first one that kind of figured out
where everybody was, who everybody was, And then we were
having family dinners and we were all getting together and
we were like training on the beach together and then
when we met the other group, the other group had
never seen each other at their hotel. I think their
hotel was a little nicer, but that's okay, maybe that's why.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
But it's not supposed to be fair. Okay, that's the last.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Supposed to be fair. And by the way, technically it wasn't
because we actually had way more fun because in quarantine
we all became My crew was Danny Ammidola, Hannah Brown,
Nastia Lucan, We had uh, we had chef, we had
Drew doctor Drew, and we kind of like all kind
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of got to know each other.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
So if you if there were an exercise that you
didn't get to do because it was after you were eliminated,
what one would you have wanted to do that you
weren't able.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
To I would say I did not I did not
have any desire to do the gas, the.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Gas, the tea dodge that bullet moment.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And I think I think that was the That was
the next day, So it was kind of like not
not too sad because like, if I'm going to go out,
I'd rather go out before that before I have to
inhale toxic fumes. Yeah, you know, it's hard to say.
I think like when I left, I was really bummed
out and was I wanted so badly to stay and
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last longer, more so not because of the tasks, but
to prove that I was more capable. So I was
really disappointed in myself in leaving on day four because
I I really didn't want to leave. I wanted to
make it as far as I humanly could. But we
had that night. What you don't see in the show
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is that night we were on night Watch, so we
were up all night long, and so we hadn't slept
in like thirty six hours or more.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
What do you do to stay awake?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
What we had We always had a buddy, and we
had to do We had to look over camp and
watch and make sure and we were supposed to be rotating,
but some people were not as great of team players
and they slept longer and didn't didn't do switch out.
So of course, me, being the idiot martyr that I
(14:31):
like to be, took over. I was also the girl
that like when the guy, when anybody was hungry and
they needed extra food, I would give up my food
and my snacks.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Speaking of what were the what was the fair?
Speaker 8 (14:44):
Like?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
We got things like hot hot hot chicken noodle soup.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
We got are you sure it was chicken.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
That I don't know. We got cornbef and hash. We
got very interesting food choices that didn't necessarily let's just
say that the tent wasn't always smelling so great.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Well, it's a lot of sodium too, which is probably
good to replenish the sweat that you lost.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, so it was. It was a bit of a
wild the food. The food was not like we'd get
like a hard boiled egg and like an orange and
like a cracker.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
So did you get the same amount of food allotted
to you that like Droight Howard got or same?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
It was the same everything save across. He was hungry.
That's why I gave him. I gave a lot of
my snacks to Gus because I just loved Gus and
he was just always sweet and I could always see
him just eyeing them, like do you want my snacks?
You need that, I know, But I'm the mama bear.
(15:56):
That's like trying to take care of everybody else, to
making sure that everybody else is okay.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
It's not the Mama Bear show.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I know, but I don't know how to like Mama Bear.
I don't know how.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I don't know how to like gotta starve gus out
of there, guff, you don't.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
God, It's it's amazing what your body will do in
those like few days, especially like being in the desert
and just obviously being like so active and on like
high alert.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
It was clearly a mostly I would say, a mental game.
It didn't seem like too much of it was a
like how fit, how trained are you? You know, kind
of work out challenge. There was obviously heavy physical load
and and stress and stuff, but like the wire stunt, the.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
The car in the water, like uh, the.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Like the endurance stunts, the trust fall, all of those
things were like, we're all mental games like more so
than physical challenges.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
So that someone like you who's not like physically.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Trained for the outdoors in this way, and I would
put myself in that category as well, and maybe not
Mac Actually.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, back would be fine, but you.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
You still had a chance to kind of like overcome
in a way with as long as you could get
your get your shit together here and put yourself to it.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
That was exactly it. And there were definitely games being
played to challenge your chat to see like where the
breaks are in people. Like before we had to do
the rope challenge. I was voted the weakest and Dwight
(17:49):
was voted the strongest.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
I saw that thing where you all lined up. Yeah,
did you put yourself there though.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
The first time?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
And they made you do it more than once?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Oh yeah, So I was weakest and Dwight was the strongest.
And so I don't think when when the show aired,
they didn't necessarily do it in order, but like we had,
Dwight and I went up to the mountain first, and
I'm sitting here and we're on the top of this
rock and it's like the most beautiful view in the world.
(18:22):
And I'm sitting there and Dwight was supposed to go
first because he's the strongest, and I was supposed to
go next because I'm the weakest. And Dwight was really
struggling because he for such a tall guy, he doesn't
like heights, and so it was it was a struggle
for him to like get on the rope.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
You got far on the on the on the rope
of I did you got out to the middle right halfway.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I got, Josh halfway, I got I got three quarters
of the way. And what what was very frustrating is
that I the way. It's very strange, but like normally,
if you asked me to do any of these things,
I'd be like, hell no. But then you, like one
put it as is a job, and I'm like.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
No, you lock it.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I mean like if you're there out to uh desert
in Jordan, you were there, it was too late. You
had to like and I know that you're like that.
I'm also like that where like, if I'm not going
to put myself in too many situations, I wouldn't like.
But but if I'm there, we're if we're going, we're going,
you know, like I have that kind of like switch
(19:29):
where I'm if I've already I'm not going to back
out the last minute exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
So it was weird that like I would just be like,
all right, what's the tack, let's do it. And so
I was able to kind of click in. And when
I had gotten the hardest part was like the rope
started stretching and I just didn't have the bandwidth. I
wasn't like tall enough.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah, so you were you were really extended, which ye
exactly was kind of awful yet.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And so and didn't have the strength to like pull
the rope down. But when I got off and I
had asked everyone how far I went, they all told
me I did not get very far.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Really, do you think it looks that way to them
from where they were?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I don't know, because when I watched everyone else, it
was very clear to see where they went.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
So did you go early?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, I was the second one to go, so they.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Maybe expected that it was easier than it was perhaps
and they figured that halfway is not very far.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
It brought up old emotions of not feeling good enough,
not feeling accepted, and all of those things. So the
mental game hit hard. Yeah, that's all mental games. And
in that sense because again, even though I know that
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it was like a competition, I think.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
The weakest, So nobody's gonna want to like admit to
themselves after that that you did better than they did,
or that you know what I mean, or that they
they did as well as you put yourself at the
bottom of the pack.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
You know, that's an ego game too.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
When it came to the strongest the weakest, she put
herself as the weakest.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
She wasn't willing to put herself out there if you
lack self esteem and confidence.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
As for the strongest to the weakest, where were you weakest?
Speaker 7 (21:19):
Did you put yourself at the back this morning?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I did because I felt that's where the team felt
I should be.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Where do you honestly think you should be?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Not quite at the end.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
That was your opportunity to stick up for yourself a
little bit. Where does that self doubt come from?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Oh, my life, I've never been good enough. I've just
always felt that from grade school to my career, I've
kind of built a shell, always saying that I'm okay
with where I am or how far I've gotten.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Why.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
I don't know what?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Because I feel like I don't want to try, because
I don't want to fail. I'm almost afraid to succeed.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
Don't be afraid of failure. We've failed, we've tripped up,
We've had to pick ourselves back up and go again.
That's where you get your strength, and the only way
you're ever going to succeed is to fail. Anyway, when
it gets uncomfortable or hard, try not to feel sorry
for yourself.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, it was interesting, just because you can see that
it was very much a competition to everyone else. For me,
it wasn't a competition because the only person I was
competing against was myself, because I didn't expect to beat
anyone else, like that's not the course for me. Was
trying to see what I was capable of. So like
(22:57):
it was a one man show in this sense that
like I I couldn't hold myself to like be like,
can you be as good as Carly Lloyd? Like that
was not on my radar. I would celebrate her when
she did something great. I would celebrate in Nastia, I
would celebrate Hannah. I would celebrate anyone who succeeded because
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I knew it was big for them. So that was
that was a little bit of a of a challenge
because yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
There was a lot of like things.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
It's meant to put you at sort of at war
with yourself one percent.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
It's supposed to crack what's broken, So like any like
minor crack, it is supposed to bust that wide open
and have you explore, like why you feel those things.
And I would say that, like it's been we were
season one, so it's been almost three years since I
(23:54):
did it, and I would say that I'm still learning
and dealing with the things that came up on that
course and it was only four days. You guys like
it was insane.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Yeah, it was. It was insane.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Bed Did you tell them, you know, this is what
I struggled with beforehand, and did you kind of kind
of have an idea of what you wanted to work
on with based on your personal inventory beforegoing or was
it just you.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Know, they do a psyche val, so they talk to
us and try to like see where we are like mentally,
and then they do like a full they ask you
like what are your fears? What are your thoughts about yourself?
Like you know, they asked me like, are you afraid
of heights? And I'm like, I don't know. They're like,
are you afraid of water? I'm like, I don't know.
I've never put myself in situations in which we have
(24:51):
questioned those things, so I don't know. They're like one
of them was are you afraid of fire? I'm like,
I like fire. I don't like to be on fire,
but I don't know what that looks like.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
You like camp fire?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Big questions fire, by.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
The way, they did set them on fire, so they
did have the recruits douse and then set on fire
and they had to put themselves out. So that was
a the missions.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I want to skip was that towards the end.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
It was definitely after me. So I'm not gonna lie.
It was not so sad when I was you.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
I'd rather but you would rather do that one than
the gas mask one.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Still, I think I would fire over the gas mask
or not the gas mask, the tear gas. I don't
know the tear. It's just going into a room and
like inhaling, uh, the gas and then having to do
a mission while in the coughing, while coughing, puking, and yeah, yeah,
(25:55):
all the things fun, cute, cute you guys ready to
sign up?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
BEV. I know, I gotta say, Bev.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
It did not make me smile or bring me any
joy to watch you at your breaking point through the
through some of the clips.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
How was the experience?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I guess talk to us about like your the mission
where you called it, So you guys were doing what
a run at that point? You were you between missions
or where you're in the middle of something and then
you fell over, so you got completely disoriented. You had
the spins which I've had before. It sucks.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah, you couldn't stand on your own two feet.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
You needed a minute to catch your breath and to
kind of to let your your center come back so
you could stand up.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
And they were like go and you were like, I
can't stand.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, yeah, fun.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
It was incredibly uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
So that was another mission where I was put in
charge and arm it. It was me and Scarmucci were
put as our team leaders, and we had Alpha and
Bravo and we had to push a disabled jeep that
was for a mile. The jeep mission.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
We had to sponsor this this show clearly.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, exactly. We had to push the jeep through the
desert over a mile. Then we had to get out
and take everything that was in the jeep up the mountain.
Everything's heavy, like I mean, there's nothing that's less than
sixty pounds, and usually you're trying to carry both of them,
which basically was my body weight, and we also had
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our backpacks that we were throwing in and we also
had to move those two and so we had to
push the jeep through. And the thing that nobody knew
while watching the show was that prior to me even
getting to Jordan, I had stepped on glass, and I
had glass in my foot, and I had gone on
(28:00):
to a posiatrist, and we like dug out all the
glass when I thought we dug out of all the
glass until we were out. When I was out in Jordan,
and we're on our feet all day, like and just
how much we're on our feet, I had some pieces
of glass that were still in my foot. So that
morning before the whole jeep challenge, they dug quite a
(28:23):
few pieces of glass out of my foot. So I
had like a hole at the bottom of my foot,
was super sore, and we'd been up all night and
we're going across the desert with like very little food
because of course they gave up a lot of my food.
And I was my body was like did not like
(28:43):
my head was not connected to my feet, Like I
couldn't feel. It was the craziest feeling that like I
felt like I was spinning. I felt like the whole
I couldn't I couldn't get anything together. I was just
an absolute mess. And when Foxy came up and basically
said get it together, and Dwite even offered to throw
me over his shoulder and take me up the mountain,
(29:05):
and I said, no, if I can't do it myself, then, like,
I don't want to be a burden to you guys.
And so sadly, even though I did not want to,
I had to call it, and that sucked. I was
(29:26):
so disappointed in myself because I wanted so much to
to still be there.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Well, I'll tell you what, digging a bunch of glass
out of your foot that morning, yeah, really puts it
into context.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Bev.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Geez, they didn't give you any of that credit on
the show. They didn't mention. Oh, by the way, we
we had to cut Bev's the bottom of our foot
open today and then we made her run up the
mountain or whatever. So I mean it's I mean, it's Bev.
It's it was an admirable like.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Effort.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
You got a lot of spirit and uh And I
definitely am confident, more confident than I was before I
saw the clips that I would not have done this.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Really, yeah, are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
No way, I would not have done I mean I
wouldn't have done this anyway, but having watched you do it,
I'm definitely would not have done it.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
You don't.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I talked to Jess about it, too, because I was
like when I told Jesse I was doing it, she
was like, I don't think this is a good idea,
Like I really She's like she's like I think She
even was like called Michael and it was like, Michael,
I don't think you should let her do this, like
I'm I'm scared for her life, like I don't I
don't want her to go, and and then.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
I was like I can't stop her.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah, Michael's like, why don't you put her out do it?
And decided that she's doing she's doing it.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
You get her to not go. You met my.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Wife, That's true, Mac, would you do it? I could
see you doing it, though.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I would do it probably, I could see you doing it.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
I am afraid of heights, though they will exploit that.
But sometimes I can do things if I have to.
And so you like separate the mentally. So it's so
like a robot body kind of deal. But I don't
know how I would do but me no, likey long
(31:27):
distances to the ground.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
So you had to do every mission. If you didn't
do a mission, you went home. You didn't There was
a pass or fail situation, but whether you failed didn't
mean that you necessarily were going home. It just meant
that you failed. I had always basically assumed that I
failed every mission. So like when we did the water
(31:55):
mission or we had to go underwater in an suv,
which while we're sitting there, you're looking at it being like,
this is like how people die. This is not this
is learning, This is like how this is things that
like you don't necessarily say, like hey, pick me, put
me in a car, put me underwater, and then.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Like that it was literally a demonstration of how actors
die on sets.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Yes, it's an absolutely horrifying thing to do. It's be
strapped into a car.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
And then dunked into a bay and then don't worry
the scuba divers outside the car. You're great like, and
then you're strapped in and like you have to get
unstrapped and then swim out the back of the car.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Yep, you can buy like are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And again it's one of those things where you're sitting
there and you're thinking, like, there is no way I
have children. This is not a good idea. I should
not do that. They call my number and I just
run over and I do it. Like it's just like
I don't know what mentally wrong with me. But like
when it's like a work thing, like I will make
an excuse and be like, well, it's for work, so
(33:06):
I have to do it. Just hire me, Just hire
BEV to do it, and then I'll do it. And
but I remember sitting there like because it took a
long time.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Because also most people getting the truck in and out
probably took forever hunt so you guys are just watching
it get go in and out.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I mean you have to know that. Like to die,
it's a hugely.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Talking about mac people die on set.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Probably safer nobody there. Then you are, you know, walking
down the sidewalk without someone trained in things.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Right, I'll walk down the sidewalk.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
You go in the bay, in the in the in
the old military suv with the scuba.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Divers, just publicity to let actress die.
Speaker 9 (33:52):
Well, I think what was interesting was that we had
to They made us wait, so like once we got
fully submerged, you had to wait and you had to
have your eyes open in the water, hands on the
steering wheel, you couldn't remove your hands, and then you
had to wait until the scuba diver gave you.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
The go ahead, which was you know, a quick squeeze
for you to then find your seat belt, unbuckle and
then go out the right exit.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Did you have to give the diver the belt to
clear it?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
No, you just have You're supposed to like throw it
away because you're supposed to throw it across your body,
because the whole point is so you don't get caught, right.
But when I got out of the water, I was
just devastated and was like so upset. And while we
were waiting for the next person to go you surface,
(34:45):
Foxy came over and Foxy was one of the DS,
and he was like, like, what are you blubbering about?
I was like, I was upset because I'm like I
failed again. And he's like, did I say you failed?
And I was like, no, but you didn't say I passed.
And he's like, well, I didn't say you failed. And
it was this realization that I also had always just
(35:08):
assumed that I failed everything. Yeah, I couldn't even in
that moment enjoy the fact that like, I just did
something so insane.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Also that that actor validation of like, yeah, you came
off of the task and nobody said good job to you,
so you it must have been bad, Yeah, which I get.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
You know, we construct these boundaries around ourselves though, like
your main thing was not feeling enough, and then here
you are putting yourself in that box of like, well,
I know I'm gonna fair, but also knowing that you're
gonna fail feels like a safe place because well, at
least if I failed.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I was right, you know. But it is an imaginary construct.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, so we're dealing with a lot of mental trauma.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Mm hm. And look, you beat half of the people,
so you were wrong, and.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
It's really well I did. I did pretty good.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
When you had to film the commentary stuff where you
guys clearly look showered and you.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Know that was before we go into. That was the
night before we went in.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
That's why you still had that that gleam of life
in your eye.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, that's why we were still like curious and.
Speaker 10 (36:17):
The enthusiastics and then the commentary sections after, like they
showered you up and stuck you there to stand there
and say little quips and you would just be dead
in your eyes.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
They should have. They should have, because honestly, I would
love to have known what I would have said in
that moment, because you're also like so exhausted, you're you're
like undernourished, you're like all these things, and you're like
frustrated from being in the course and everything's so fresh
and new, like, oh, I wish because wow, the things
that but they probably couldn't air at all because also,
(36:51):
let me just say this, what they put us through
and what you saw on TV wasn't even the half
of it. There was so much more that we went
through that the audience doesn't ever see.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, because they're just they're cherry picking moments and they're
building out like characters. They want to make the people
who succeed look like they're going to fail. They want
to make the people who are going to fail and
tell them to succeed. That's how you build these reality shows, right,
So you you the suspense is all kind of manufactured,
even though what you're doing is very suspenseful and dangerous
(37:25):
and stuff, but it's all controlled environment and they're the
editing is what it turns it into an episodic, right
totally with.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
Only doing the sort of interview things before and I
am assuming after they missed out on those like Survivor,
you know, uh, moments of like.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Confessionals like in the midst of the drama.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Well, I think the big thing about the show is
they wanted us. We were completely isolated. Like again, we
couldn't You couldn't talk to a producer. You couldn't talk
like if you wanted to if you wanted anything, Like
if I needed to go to the medic when I
had to get the glass taken out of my foot,
I had to go to the DS to ask them
for me to be able to go to the medic,
(38:10):
Like if you needed anything, you had to go through them, Like,
so there was no I mean there was. I remember
when we were doing the Water Underwater Challenge, we were
watching the crew like eat snacks and trying to figure
out like ways that we could try to like swipe
by the table and like swipe like craft services, because
(38:34):
like we were just like long Like I've never had
that experience where I was like so longingly like booking
out all these crew members just being like well. And
then the other thing is like we're so used to
being like connected with our cameramen and are like our
sound and like you know, we're son Like I'm used
to being friends with my crew. They weren't allowed to
(38:56):
do I did I wanted to, but they weren't allowed
to talk to us. They weren't allowed to like engage
with us at all. So like I was like, it
was really hard because I'm like, but these are my people,
Like why didn't they talk to my camera? Like I
want to talk to.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Them real quick? Can you tell us how smelly everyone was? Thanks?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Oh god, let's just say that life at camp was interesting.
We were responsible for washing our clothes. Some did it
better than others. You had to wash it with soap
and water. And and the hard part too, is like
it we did have like we had stinks and we
(39:42):
had a shower, except for we didn't have a lot
of water, so like when the water ran out, we
were out.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
But the every day you guys went back to a hotel,
no never.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Just leading to desert in a tent.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
You were in a hint, yes, so it was a butt.
You got a bucket of water and they were like, go.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Ahead, Yeah, we had water and we were we We
did have a few items that we were allowed to bring,
Like I snuck in like sunscreen that like was a
lotion sunscreen because I didn't want my face to be dry.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
That too. She commented that she hopes you guys were
all wearing sunscreen.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
We did have our sunscreen. We had our chats. Say,
we were allowed band aids, and then we were allowed
toodor it I'm choice, and then we were I.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Brought in popular contribution.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I brought in peppermint oil. So I was using that
because sometimes when you're overheating, if you put peppermint oil
on your like pressure points, it will help calm your
body down and cool it down. So I had peppermint oil.
And what's funny is when I left.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
This goes beyond the purview of Pepperman oil, a bev.
I don't think Pepperman oil was up to.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
It saved table stop by the way let me put.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
It this, Pepperman oil saved my life.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
I saved my life. But I will say this. Let
me just tell you this. So we had our bags
and so by our cots, we had like we had
a little cube where we were able to put our stuff.
And when I left, all of the recruits raided my stuff.
And they're like they knew that I had all the
(41:26):
best stuff, and they took all of my like they
took they took all my stuff, and they're like they're like,
and I think when I said something to them, They're like,
we knew you would want us to have.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
It, and.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
I was like, yeah, which is so funny, but yeah,
they definitely they they definitely took my goodies, which is
fine because I'm a sharer.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Did you get to do a fun ari I shopping
trip before you go?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
When s No, So we did not. We were not
able to pack our bags the bags they packed for us.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Yeah, set your toothbrush stiffness.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Well, we brought our toothbrushes, but those were not in
our backpacks or burgans. Okay, yeah, so those were those
weren't in there. But what was interesting too is also
the friendships that we created on the in like you
kind of create those trauma bonds with like unsuspecting people
that like you wouldn't necessarily like I wouldn't necessarily have
put me as becoming so close with certain people as
(42:32):
I did. But like Carly Lloyd was kind of like
my rock, but she was kind of like she's younger,
but she was like my older sister. She reminded me
a lot of Jesse because she was just kind of
like when I would get like super emotional or start
talking too much because I get nervous. She was like that,
just stop talking, like just just or she would tell
(42:54):
me to like just take a breath, or like she's like,
you just got to pull it together. You've got this
you but you gotta you gotta dial it in. But
it was interesting because she's so different than me, and
I always I kept telling everyone, I'm like, you, guys,
I am the actress. I am in touch with my emotions,
which therefore means that they're always there. I don't know
how to put them away.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Feel that telling me to.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Stop crying is not necessarily like the best, It's not
it's not going to be the most effective response. But
like I'm here with athletes who they've been trained entirely differently.
They've been trained to like put their emotions to the
back and like have their physical abilities like come forward.
And then Hannah Brown, who was like the sleeper, who
(43:38):
was on the Bachelorette and who kind of like everyone underestimated,
but like if you want to talk about intensity, and
who like dialed it in and she was just she
was incredible, Like she was able to just compartimentalize and
just like do the task and stay focused and like
get it done. And she's the one who made it
(43:58):
to the end with Carly, and they did incredible which
was so impressive to see these two women like power
through and essentially beat Dwight Howard and Dandy Amdula.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
So did they were those the last four and in it.
I didn't see the rest of it.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah, did you end up having to do.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
That car one?
Speaker 6 (44:17):
Because it Dwight like they when they first put him in,
they said that he was sort of too large for
that and.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
He did do it did but they had to make
adjustments to the car got it because his knees h
didn't quite fit.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
We've never had that problem ever.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
We've never had that problem. I've never like, you know,
I'm also the one out like in the airplane that
like I could stand up and I don't hit my
head on the same It's so great. It's great. And
also you know who was amazing too and who I
absolutely loved and was heartbroken when she left was Melby.
She was just kind of like this wonderful cheerleader and
this like everyone saved space and she was awesome. She
(44:59):
seemed kind and Jamie Lyn Spears was also became I
was trying to keep her around so that way we
could just miserate about missing our babies. He's gonna be
the longest days of our entire lives and we've had children.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Yeah, when you give birth, you have air conditioning.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
What got her out?
Speaker 1 (45:18):
She I think it just got to be too much
and she you know, it's it's hard because it's also
like there were things that we had to do. We
had to like fight each other, we had to like
saw that. Yeah, that was I didn't enjoy that. And
actually that's what took Montell Jordan, who was also like
(45:38):
my favorite person to like clean with. We would go
out and clean socks and he was always so sweet
because he would he would clean other people's clothes. He
was just like such a wonderful human. I would say.
The hardest thing about it wasn't the task. That was
kind of the relationships in the tent too, is just
(45:59):
like trying to like find with all these people who
are so uniquely different and trying to find common ground.
That was I had. I had good relationships with certain
recruits and then others we didn't really ever connect. So
that was but you're in close proximity, so you don't
really can't really get away from anybody. There's no escape.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yeah, that's it's I didn't envy the task of at all.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Well, I was hoping that you guys were like ready
to sign up for the next season.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
No, I will not pick up good luck though, you
know to you but no.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
But it was cool. What was cool is after when
we when all was said and done, and after Michael
and the kids and I went to London on a
trip and I actually was able to meet up with
DS Billy and have dinner with him and his wife,
and it was so lovely to like be out take
(47:05):
him out of that experience and be able to have conversation.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
He could be a normal person because being in his
position is a job that requires a certain kind of
coldness and right, yeah, you don't get to show who
you are in that position, really.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
And it was wonderful to have. I think what was
nice is, like you said before, is like what as
actors were used to, like a validation like you did
a great job, Like Okay, that was great, We're moving on.
It doesn't have to be a lot, but there's something there. Yeah,
And so when I was able to talk to him,
it was actually nice when he was like we we
(47:42):
were blown away by the fact that you lasted so
long and to the point where, like we knew if
we did not get rid of you at this point,
that you might really hurt yourself. So like you when
when we were asking if you wanted to go, we
weren't really going to give you an option. Your option
was you're leaving because you're not going to make it
(48:03):
through the next day, and we knew it, so we
needed to make sure for your safety that like.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
You, they needed to kind of get you out, yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Because they're like they're like, we knew that you were
the one that wasn't going to quit and you would
just keep pushing yourself until it.
Speaker 4 (48:20):
Was until too far happened, until it was.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Too far, and even like I because I told I
was right afterwards. I told Carly, I was like, I
could have made it one more day, and she's like,
the next mission you would have died. Like no, you couldn't.
You wouldn't have made it. You had to go home.
You were done, And I was like, Okay.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
Well, I'm glad you got out alive.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Bev I did from your weird uh sadist masistic vacation
or whatever. However, you justified this in your brain.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
Would you do it again?
Speaker 4 (48:53):
Bev?
Speaker 1 (48:54):
I would do it again. I would like to be better,
in better shape and better. But what I learned about myself.
Speaker 4 (49:06):
She would do it again.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
I think it's because there was so much to learn
and I was so I was pushed to my limits.
And I also think that, like we get so comfortable
that sometimes it's important to be uncomfortable and like. But
but the thing is is like I just take it
to the extreme.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Like, let's just but a lot of people are extreme.
Speaker 6 (49:32):
They it's they live within the gray area is difficult,
it has it's black or white. Like a lot of
people when they go on something a good diet, it's
like they have to start off being like, you know,
very rigid and in need that to make a change.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
So yeah, so I'll just go for the extreme.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
We go from eighteen handle a voyika day to zero vodka.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Day, just like that.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
You know Mac likes to go from eighteen vodkas to
seventeen exactly.
Speaker 6 (50:02):
I'm about that great area.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Are any of the tasks that you saw Are any
of the ones that you're like, yeah, absolutely, that would
that looks like fun?
Speaker 4 (50:13):
Fun? No, I don't know fun.
Speaker 6 (50:16):
I don't know how I would do games, but it
would be fun to try.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Fun enough hindsight.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
Fun, I don't know. I think it was.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
I mean, I you know, And I was also angry
for you watching some of it just because I don't
I didn't like seeing you like put yourself through it
for nothing, for no reason other than to like do it.
I get the reason is like to do it and
(50:48):
say you did it, so that you could tell yourself
you could do it.
Speaker 4 (50:53):
But also like, come play some board games just coming back.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
I mean, I would love to play board games.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
Difference, and we don't have to like be in danger.
You know, this is uh, We're modern humans. We don't
need this in our in our lives. We we don't
have time for this.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Bev it is true, got it all figured out?
Speaker 4 (51:16):
Well?
Speaker 3 (51:16):
Hey everyone, I hope you enjoyed this, uh, this special
episode of Catching Up with the Camden's. Next week, of course,
we'll be back to our regularly scheduled program, will be
uh reviewing episodes and uh and having guests and and
discussing our normal show.
Speaker 4 (51:35):
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