July 7, 2025 • 36 mins
What's a studio teacher you ask? Well this is the episode for you! Bev, Mack and David sit down with Cheryl Diamond and Susie Salerno, their studio teachers from 7th Heaven to discuss what it was like working on their set vs. other hit TV shows, as well as who was their best student. It's a reunion 20 years in the making!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, who wants to kick it off?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Well, well we're here, We're going to do our podcast.
You guys are going to be on our podcast. It's
it's a little different being on this side.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Huh, yes it is.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yeah, where's our we we don't have our books to study. Well, hey, guys,
we are back with another episode of Catching Up with
the Camdens.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
And we have a very special guests.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Who know us very very well and know all of
our deep dark secrets. Oh wait, I forgot to introduce myself.
I'm Beverly Mitchell.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I'm David Gallagher, and I'm Mackenzie Rossman.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And our guests here are I'm Cheryl Diamond.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
I taught Beverly and Jesse on Seventh seven.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
And I'm Susie Salerno and I taught David Gallagher on
Seventh Heaven.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, and so this is so fun to have you
guys here, touse. I think a lot of people really
don't understand what it's like being a child actor and
what we have to the other side of, Like, you know, yes,
we're on camera, but we still have to be students
and we still have to get good grades and do well.
(01:08):
And you guys were responsible for making sure we stayed
on top of our study and and made sure that
like we were always protected on set, because you guys
were also kind of our protectors as well. Not that
we really needed it on seventh even, but on some.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Sets you do social social workers.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Yeah, enforcing child labor laws on the set.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Safety and welfare yea.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
And that has to do with like like our hours
on set and uh and obviously schooling hours and and
what else is involved in that part of it.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Well, we would oversee if we thought something was dangerous
on set, we would speak up. And what the director.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Did that ever happen?
Speaker 7 (01:56):
Did you ever have to speak up about something that
you thought that you know, you were uncomfortable with.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Well, I spoke up once at a table read, and
the producer was Bert Brinker High. Yeah, yes, and he
didn't like what I had to ask about because there
was a fake gun, but I needed to make sure
that it passed our inspection and everything. And I wasn't
challenging the fact that it wasn't wasn't going to be safe,
(02:24):
but I was doing my job.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, Well, we appreciate that because I definitely I've been
on plenty of sets where gun safety was not taken seriously,
and it did something that it is very important to
always just Checkah, So thank you for I mean, I
I do feel like, you know, there wasn't often that
we had like crazy things happen on seventh heeven. I mean,
(02:46):
but there were numb chucks in one.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Episode and brass knuckles.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yes, bras knuckles.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
We found It's not that they were.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Just yeah, lots of pregnancies because we've been exploring and
rewatching the show. But but this episode we're chatting about
what it was like to kind of be our teachers
and what that experience was like, and how well of
us students we were.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
You were excellent students. I always say that you guys
had two full time jobs. I mean, you're actors, but
you also have a full time job being a student,
and you have to do both in the time that
most kids just have to go to school. Yeah, and
I will say I was always amazed at how prepared
(03:31):
you all were when you got to set. You knew
your lines, you had your homework.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Homework, there's so much homework.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Well, we've talked a bit about you doing the podcast
over the past. The past episodes, we've talked a bit
about the schooling and how that kind of functions on set,
but for everyone who's kind of catching up with this
part of it. Now, we have our studio set, and
then outside where all the trailers were, we had dedicated
school trailers. I had my own school trailer, Mac had
(04:02):
her own trailer. Bev and Jess shared a trailer because
they were a great apart. Yeah right, you guys weren't
in the same time.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You guys were great apart. Yes, so you guys shared
a trailer.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
Yes, but that all just had to do with keeping,
like you know, our grade proximity, so that they were
divided up that way.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
And then on any given.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Day we had to get three hours of schooling in
time wise, we could bank extra if we had the time,
and then anytime we had fifteen to twenty minutes to spare,
we weren't maybe on camera, we were off camera, they
would rush us off.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
We would go meet up with.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Susie, get in, get back to the test or whatever.
We were studying work pages every.
Speaker 8 (04:46):
Subject, and we had to essentially keep pace with our
with the schools that were that they were reporting to
on our behalf with all of our schoolwork, so that
we could graduate.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
On time and keep up with with our grades.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
Did you ever come in on your days off to
like bank extra hours because I did that.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yes, I didn't do it so much because I always
would try to go to school.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yes, But I also I was also always.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Oh no, I was. I never was in a deficit
on my hours like I was like, I always like
exceeded my bank hours.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Did you ever do a homeschool many?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Many many?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Did you ever do a homeschooling program?
Speaker 8 (05:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Were you always in a private school?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I was always in private I was always in the
college preparatory. So I was always a shmena.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
I didn't do homeschool.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I never did homeschool.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
My parents were very adamant that I was always in
in a school, and then all my days off I
would go to regular school.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
So Jesse did a few different programs, Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Jesse around.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Then Concord, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And then Shamanah for a short a tough school.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
And David graduated from there.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I was to start. I'm the reason
I have the reason David went there.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
I didn't realize I knew you would attended it, but I.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Oh no, I graduated.
Speaker 9 (06:20):
I was, yeah, because I started off at Shamanad when
when we started the show, I was a student at Shamanad.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And I knew that I wanted to stay with my class.
And you know what's funny is like everyone always asked like, well,
you know, did people treat you differently when you went
to school? And the answer for.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Me was no.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Also because everyone already knew me, so like they knew
me before I started seventh even so I was never cool,
Like I never got to play the cool card where like,
oh I'm on TV, They're like, oh whatever, By the way,
did you like? I was always behind on who was
dating who or who liked to or whatever.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
So I was always like that you always had so
many friends?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I did. I was very I was very lucky that
I still went to all the dances. I was a cheerleader,
I did all the things. That's my full high school experience.
Different experience.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Yeah, well I can inform you that the cool card
didn't work anyway.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
That made me feel better.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
You drive in with a Prowler, right, that's that's gonna land.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, yeah, I pulled in and up with Ford Explorer
with my Well, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I got.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yes, and.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
One of the it's funny because in high school that
where the cool card worked more effectively was more with
administrators and teachers, and like, so I was friends with
the security guard who at the gate where you'd come
into school to the parking lot, and I when I
would drive my prower to school, which wasn't all the time,
(08:07):
but when I would take my prowor to school, I
would just park it next to the security guard gate
and he would be like, the worry I got you.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Nobody must have watched my Ford explore they weren't very
excited about I was just excited to have a car.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
But like, yeah, the day the day I could have
my license, I had it. I was on it. I
was on that. That was a big big deal for
us back then.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Well, I have to say, given all the shows I've
worked on, Seventh Heaven looking back, gave us the most
leeway with education. I think we had science Bob. We
each had our own trailer so you you could study quietly.
It was like that doesn't exist anymore really, Yeah, And
(08:56):
like we were literally.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Just talking with Shauna too, and she was saying how
our set was like so accommodating to Happy, Like Happy
had a trailer they had space and that, like, so
it's interesting for us because we just always that was
the norm, like and.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
You know what, I thought that was the norm too
until I went to other show reality it was like,
you know, no, I mean I've had kids from eight
years old to sixteen in one room and you bounce
around and you have to teach them accordingly. In fact,
Susie came on to one show that I worked on
because it was a third grader and then there was
(09:33):
a seventh and eighth grader, and when I had to
do math with the older kids, the you know, the
eight year old was not able to like just teach
himself right or entertain himself. So Susie came on for
a while. Yeah I like that show. Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Did you ever work with Claudet on other things? I did? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:55):
I worked with her on step by Step? Oh yeah,
several years.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
That was before four.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
I worked on step by Step with Christine shed he
was eleven years old until she was eighteen. And Claude
Dette worked with the younger kids.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
I know, she did Hannah Montana after us.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
She did maybe like background kids I worked, I No,
I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
But did you work on that one or no, But
I worked worked.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
A lot with me on okay, cool and then yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
You know we're very close friends, Susie.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You and I worked together when I was a bitty
bitty bitty thing.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
We worked on two movies with Patrick Right and Rue McClanahan.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
And we are before you get into this story, Susy.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
We will be right back and then we'll learn about
the story.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Oh okay, I love that.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So, Susie, I we actually worked together when I was
little And you said you had a story.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
So I'm nine years old.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Yeah, I'm me and Casey Yeah, she was a you
were nine.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yep, you played Jersey.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
I did on two movies with Rue McClanahan and Patrick
for Duffy.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
And I have a picture of us, do you really yes?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 9 (11:30):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
And Casey was my little sister. I remember that. And
that's when Patrick Duffy got punched. Here was my grandpa
in this. We were just talking to Christine, and I
think he was I told him that when I saw
him at nineties con and he was greatly disturbed by
that when he realized that I am forty four.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
Oh well, it might have been a teenage pregnancy.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
But this was a real this was here's a call.
She Oh my gosh, you have a call? She yes,
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Guess what else I have here for you?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
What else? Oh my gosh, children of the Bride.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Yes, and here's Jersey on the back.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Oh you stop. I don't even I don't even have
these things. That's amazing. I'm gonna have to.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
We're gonna we.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Will post pictures of all this criss cross you can
have that for really?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
What else?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Keeps a lot of.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Everything that you.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Picture on the cover of Q.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I remember that picture yet smolder, one of my h
look at you one of my most try hard pictures.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Favorite?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Come on, So what is so many pictures?
Speaker 5 (12:56):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Well, I mean, you guys were such a big part
of our life ives for so.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I just loved coming to work every day and doing
school with him, spending time with him. We just had
such a wonderful connection.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
We did.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
We had a wonderful connection. I uh, I was substituting
for a previous teacher that you had, and so I
ended up staying.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
We were actually talking about that is like when you guys,
because prior to you guys coming on. We kind of
had a rotation and we didn't have so you know, he.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Brought me on to seventh time and was Barry Watson. Really,
Barry was roommates with this guy Chad and Chad worked
on a show I was on called Haying Time, okay,
and you were rotating through teachers and Barry.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Because I was a bad student.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Let's just be no, no, perfect, no, wonderful, wonderful students.
Jesse chemistry job right, the teachers, yes, And so Chad said,
we have this great teacher. She gets along with all
the students. You should you know, meet her. I was
not in the union, so technically I wasn't able to
(14:13):
come on, but because you went through so many Union teachers,
I was able to interview and and that was the
end of the story. And I got into the union
on my birthday January seventh, getting all my days.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
On the people might not I was membership person for studios.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
The Studio Teachers Union is very difficult to get into the.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
House with flowers, these all these presents. I still have that.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Little We're so happy.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
Can you explain a little bit about the Susie was
leopard and if you brought Sarah, she saw your turtles.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Yeah, I still wants.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
We were wondering that can you explain a little bit
about the process of getting into the studio Teachers' Union,
because I know that it's difficult.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
It's very difficult to get into it.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Now. It's like jobs are so scarce.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, I think, how long does it take now? Or then?
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Well I was trying to get in the union for
eight and a half years.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Wow, I like the DGAs.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Non union and then you know, this was my lucky
break and so besides having one of the best experiences
ever and it was two great students. I loved everyone.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
She also, by the way, was a referee in our
trailer between Jesse and I show a couple of pictures.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Bev was extremely studious, head studious, head down, focus, focus, focus.
Jesse could have a chicken on her shoulder while she worked.
I have pictures of it. Remember, Yeah, well she can't.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
She just would always she was.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah, science spot brought us a chicken. She asked for
a week or two.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I remember that we had a chicken in our class.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Do you remember that?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Maybe it was like you were different ends.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I do remember though so many times I actually distinctly
remember a conversation where I was dealing with faith and
I was very hardcore in my Christian faith at that time,
and Jesse was challenging me. And I remember that you
played referee and You're like, I am in the middle
(16:40):
of this conversation between these two and there's no right
or wrong, and I'm trying to just like play nice
because we got in. It was our first like real debate,
and it was I just remember you managing.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Us very well.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Oh good.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Do you remember it differently?
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I don't remember it. Oh, I mean, I know I refereed,
don't remember this particular conversation, but it was just different
learning styles.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
With other students.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
But I also think that because Jesse and I were
we were so close in age that it's like we
were meant to battle like we were. And Jesse also
knew like it was a It brought her great joy
to like push my buttons, and I didn't know how
to like recognize when she was doing it on purpose.
(17:28):
I figured.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Constantly.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
But it is it is funny now as we're adults
and now we're both like mothers and we have kids
like a day apart. Yeah, Maisiel and and Finny are
day apart. Yeah, Maizie and Finny a our day apart.
She was there was supposed to be a few more
days apart, but Jesse delivered early, so they are literally
(17:57):
a day apart. But it is very funny though, also
because I'm actually we've flipped. I'm the more relaxed one
and more chill and she's the more scheduled and like
structured parent and I'm not structured at all. Really, yeah,
we've completely flipped the switch.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
The other thing was you were younger than Jesse on
the show, but older, but but older.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, and I saw her.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
You had this like beautiful bubbly handwriting and all of
your letters would be the same, and it was so organized,
you know, mine was like, you know, sloping down the
page and it would you know, are you in context
of the loosely I would like to go see on
this trip to go meet your little Yeah. Yeah, so
(18:44):
I'm going to hopefully make that happen next week.
Speaker 10 (18:47):
She was very I adore today.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
You know, she's she's basically like her and Dawn where
my mother's really so I hope I get to see her.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
How is she doing?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
She's doings doing fine?
Speaker 7 (19:01):
Yeah, and Emily and Eric good yeah with her really
good Okay.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
And Emily is doing well, she has she got place
a couple of years ago, right, and she's still is
that no, but somewhere else in the same kind of work.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
So many there's so many things besides I love but
we bring when we bring up something there me. There's
so many things, stories behind the scenes, and it brings
back memories.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Oh Sam, and.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
The show changed my life in so many ways. Can
I talk about course?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Of course, one was, Uh.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
David had a very special teacher at the Shamanad that
you would go to and and I heard about this
wonderful man. And David's counselor was my leison to get
work and to give you know, send his work in
(20:11):
and get work from. And she told me about Bob Dkanti,
who was affectionately called Deco. And you know him too well,
you had him as a teacher, yep. Well, my mother
had just passed away and everyone seemed to think that
I would really like him, so they introduced me to him,
(20:35):
and I went to my first prom at Shamanad with
Robert D. Kanti and we stayed together for twenty years
and we had wonderful twenty years together. But he passed
away in twenty nineteen and David and his whole family
were at this funeral.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Yeah, Bob was a really beautiful man. He was just
an absolute sweetheart. And I remember when I used to
go to Shamanad was he was a religious studies teacher
and he would teach art and he had this but
which always left a big impression on me. But he
(21:16):
had this beautiful sculpture that he had made from a
piece of driftwood that he found and he turned it
into this like a crucifix style sculpture that was up
in the office at school.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
It was up for years.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
Yeah, he was a very talented, artistic, a beautiful person,
and miss him.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Bob was a great guy.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
He loved David and what's not love.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
But I'm very fortunate now because I reunited with one
of my high school boyfriends. I went to a reunion
after Bob passed away, and now we've been together for
five years and he's in the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
But we're happy to have you both.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Another wonderful thing that happened was I acquire a beautiful
Persian cat called mingi Uh that we had. We had
cats on the seid, didn't we?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
They were underneath the trailers.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Yeah, non cats. We had guest cats, didn't we or
did there?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I mean I remember stray cats.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
They're they're under the trailer. I think the trainer, Shawna
Shanna had some cats from Stuart Low.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
So we were talking about the Persians and you didn't
get cat Zilla, did you?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
That was one of them.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
No. No, I got this beautiful silver shaded dum Persian
cat because the Stephen Collins assistant couldn't keep the cat,
didn't get along with hers. Oh, so she called me
up and she brought the cat over and I never
gave it bath. That cat passed away, But like I'm
(23:08):
on my sixth Persian cat. Another wonderful thing.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
When we get back, Susie will tell us all about
her rescue edibles.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
It is quite the collection that she's had over the years.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Okay, and we've got some amazing you guys have brought
some amazing pictures. And there is really a chicken on
Jesse's shoulder while she's doing schoolwork.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
There you go, let's see.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I mean, there's that's real chicken. I mean we didn't
I mean concentrate not everyone can concentrate with a chicken
on their backs.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
I don't think concentration was the goal, just saying I
also see maybe not.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Some really cool sunglasses that Jesse. Oh yeah, but I mean, Cheryl,
we have so many.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
So many memories. So because Susie told her cat stories,
I have to talk about Max dogs, Mollie and Ollie. Yeah,
and Mac and her mom Donna promised my daughter one
of their puppies when they had puppies and years past,
I wasn't even working on the show anymore, but I
(24:24):
got a call that the puppies were born and one
was going to be Sarah's. And anyway, long story short,
we had Wally and Wally was the love of our
life for thirteen years. And I'm just going to show
this picture of Hollie and Mollie and Wally. And then
(24:45):
Catherine's daughter took Lollie.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
Yeah, yes, gosh, what kind of a dog was yerkis
yorkys Yorkish?
Speaker 4 (24:54):
And I'll never forget Sarah's face when your mom told her, Sarah,
your puppy was born, and she's like, what what? I
don't even think she'd remember, and then her eyes teared
up and she was like, oh my god, oh my god,
you're so happy. You brought us a lot of happiness.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
They think sures are amazing.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
And then this was a holiday gift one year seventh
to seven.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
We have so many really cool gifts. Yeah one of them,
I know it's funny.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Definitely have them from the middle.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
But yeah, these are back when we we have I mean,
we have the quads. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Here, hand me some of the ones that you've seen.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
There's a picture of you holding the two of Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, absolutely show because we had four four. There was
a lot of kids on our show.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
There was that's Joe, a lot of guests.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
It's one of the pictures in there has Lance.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Bass yep, because Lance was on the show My Boyfriend
or playing Here there's.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Waiting in line. He was so shy, he didn't know
where to go. He he was so sweet and he
was waiting outside all by himself, and I went over
to him and was talking and he wasn't like really famous,
he was just kind of break.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I mean, is always fus.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Who did Jill teach?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Ok, so she did the Welfare baby baby Wrangler, But
because there were so many of them, we all participated,
were so cute.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
There he is. He looks exactly the same, has not changed.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I also remember what was really cool was we were
able to decorate our trailers brought in, so we were
we remember everybody, everybody school room looked uniquely different. Me
had your personalities absolutely, Yeah, like I think it was.
You could definitely tell when you walked into each of
(27:11):
our school rooms like who it belonged to, because we
were able to kind of like decorate it and make
it homeie and make it our own.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
To be clear, you decorated your school trailer.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
She decorated her her other trailer.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Your regular trailer was also I remember decorated. Absolutely My
trailer looked like stock the trailer. I didn't put pictures up.
I didn't do that. I just I came in with
my bag and put my bag down. I changed and
I didn't spend any time in there.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Are we surprised.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Unless I went to sleep.
Speaker 10 (27:45):
Yeah, I wanted it for I always wanted to be Yes,
and one gave us some chickens, actually the two chickens.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Really Yeah, yep, there he is.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
He had these little like bantam because he was was
he from El Salvador or I think maybe yeah sounds right. Yeah,
and he had these little Salvadory and chicken and then
we got big chickens and then our dogs ate those.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah. Oh.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
For all these years of being studio teachers, what was
like the most memorable set.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
For me?
Speaker 5 (28:22):
I would say this one, this one, and also Step
by Step with Christine Lake and great answers.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Okay, I would say this one, and second it would
be Jesse the Disney show Jesse.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
So I worked on that for five years, and then
some of the kids went on to Bunk and I
worked un Bumped also, so you got to follow them.
I got to follow them. I got to go to
high school graduations.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Did you guys didn't work on Secret Life for the
American Teenager? Right?
Speaker 8 (28:51):
No?
Speaker 5 (28:52):
I think I did a little bit, and Mac did,
didn't I run into you with the ranch?
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
When you what did you work on?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I did? Secretly?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I was a little blip once.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Yeah, when I worked on that once in a while.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
And I was I was the college counselor on that.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
Show, and so that was really cool because he basically
it was like our entire crew.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Melissa was on that show and shared.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Everybody the wardrobe. They took majority.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Like, yeah, it was like basically the.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Whole, the whole you guys could talk about the set
you went on to without me after this.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Andrew Keegan was another one who was a guest.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
We actually saw Andrew nineties con did y.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah he looks.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Very cansome guy.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
He's still the most handsome guy.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah, yeah, he's date he Yeah, there's a few. That
list is long.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
In the nineties, Oh, he was that guy. But he
was also he was everyone's boyfriend on every nineties show,
like he was the heart throb. But yes, at like
every show.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
When you think of your nineties boyfriend, I think he
is Andrew materialized.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
I was in They did like an ad on me
being Andrew Keegan's teacher on Step by Step, and they
did like a thing and Beat magazine.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I still have that, oh boy, I remember.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Yeah, they still have magazines like that, like those magazines.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I don't think maybe, yeah, not as popular as the nineties.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I don't think we have Instagram now. Yeah, they're they're
they're I think the boy I have.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
A picture of him from our set somewhere and isn't
that Oh, I guess that's who's thet.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
Yes, okay, she isn't pregnant.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
No she's not.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
No, she was like sixteen or seventeen there.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I mean she is so cute. Yes, yeah, that's so fun.
And then we also have this this magic you guys
check this out. Yeah, and for this at all that's mad.
Speaker 10 (31:34):
Yes, that's but children, that's really funny.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I think before we wrap up, because we're having so
much fun, what would be i''m gonna put you guys
on the spot. What was your favorite memory if you
can think of one of being our teachers? Is there
something that like stands out in your mind?
Speaker 5 (31:58):
The big one, well, I mean i'd love to hear
lane was having David Gallagher graduate from USC and Clint
Eastwood being the.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
The speaker at my graduation.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
And they also did not from the.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Yeah, Stehen and Katherine King to my graduation. We uh,
I had always said, because I was shooting for USC
Film School from like basically middle school, like I knew
that's where I wanted to go to college. I remember
I got excited about going to Shamanad because I had
heard that Shamanad has a like a high.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Throughput to USC. We did a big turnout for that college.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
And I've always said that Susie is the one who
worked her ass off to get me into USC and
it worked, and so he.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Gave me his hat. I couldn't find it. I know,
I I thought I had it all ready to bring you,
you know, in the drawer, and it wasn't there when I.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I mean, you guys brought us more than.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
And I'm I'm happy for the friendships I made. I'm
I'm very close with David's whole family. They went to
my mother's funeral, They went to my my Bob's funeral.
Christine Laken, I love her too. She I was her
teacher for seven years and she read my mother's eulogy
(33:34):
for me when my mother passed away. And when she graduated,
her parents flew me to Georgia for her graduation.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
And we went to Europe.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
I heard this to Europe for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
We heard the days. Yes, yeah, she said some of
these things that we're not going to talk about all
the details, but we.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Had a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I love that. That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Isolate one memory because there are so many. Really, you
and Jesse meant the world to me. We as did
the show.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
We are all so I can speak. I will speak
on behalf of both Jesse and I to say thank
you very much for your patience and forgetting us through
all those hard times. And you know, I think all
of us here it's it's it's an opportunity to say
thank you for being an integral part in our life
(34:33):
and our development and who we became as humans and
having that support system behind the scenes and that protection.
So thank you, so so very much.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
So very welcome. That's the joy of teaching. Just hearing
things like that and seeing how you've all blossomed. Really,
that's our.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Joy we do and you m I love.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
You, dear, and we're so grateful for you guys to
join us on the podcast. Well, thank you so very
much for joining us, and join us on our next
episode of Catching Up with the Camdens. We've got more
stories to come, more guests, and more heartfelt memories, So
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Speaker 10 (36:02):
La
All right, who wants to kick it off?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Well, well we're here, We're going to do our podcast.
You guys are going to be on our podcast. It's
it's a little different being on this side.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Huh, yes it is.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yeah, where's our we we don't have our books to study. Well, hey, guys,
we are back with another episode of Catching Up with
the Camdens.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
And we have a very special guests.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Who know us very very well and know all of
our deep dark secrets. Oh wait, I forgot to introduce myself.
I'm Beverly Mitchell.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I'm David Gallagher, and I'm Mackenzie Rossman.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And our guests here are I'm Cheryl Diamond.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
I taught Beverly and Jesse on Seventh seven.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
And I'm Susie Salerno and I taught David Gallagher on
Seventh Heaven.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, and so this is so fun to have you
guys here, touse. I think a lot of people really
don't understand what it's like being a child actor and
what we have to the other side of, Like, you know, yes,
we're on camera, but we still have to be students
and we still have to get good grades and do well.
(01:08):
And you guys were responsible for making sure we stayed
on top of our study and and made sure that
like we were always protected on set, because you guys
were also kind of our protectors as well. Not that
we really needed it on seventh even, but on some.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Sets you do social social workers.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Yeah, enforcing child labor laws on the set.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Safety and welfare yea.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
And that has to do with like like our hours
on set and uh and obviously schooling hours and and
what else is involved in that part of it.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Well, we would oversee if we thought something was dangerous
on set, we would speak up. And what the director.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Did that ever happen?
Speaker 7 (01:56):
Did you ever have to speak up about something that
you thought that you know, you were uncomfortable with.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Well, I spoke up once at a table read, and
the producer was Bert Brinker High. Yeah, yes, and he
didn't like what I had to ask about because there
was a fake gun, but I needed to make sure
that it passed our inspection and everything. And I wasn't
challenging the fact that it wasn't wasn't going to be safe,
(02:24):
but I was doing my job.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, Well, we appreciate that because I definitely I've been
on plenty of sets where gun safety was not taken seriously,
and it did something that it is very important to
always just Checkah, So thank you for I mean, I
I do feel like, you know, there wasn't often that
we had like crazy things happen on seventh heeven. I mean,
(02:46):
but there were numb chucks in one.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Episode and brass knuckles.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yes, bras knuckles.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
We found It's not that they were.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Just yeah, lots of pregnancies because we've been exploring and
rewatching the show. But but this episode we're chatting about
what it was like to kind of be our teachers
and what that experience was like, and how well of
us students we were.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
You were excellent students. I always say that you guys
had two full time jobs. I mean, you're actors, but
you also have a full time job being a student,
and you have to do both in the time that
most kids just have to go to school. Yeah, and
I will say I was always amazed at how prepared
(03:31):
you all were when you got to set. You knew
your lines, you had your homework.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Homework, there's so much homework.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Well, we've talked a bit about you doing the podcast
over the past. The past episodes, we've talked a bit
about the schooling and how that kind of functions on set,
but for everyone who's kind of catching up with this
part of it. Now, we have our studio set, and
then outside where all the trailers were, we had dedicated
school trailers. I had my own school trailer, Mac had
(04:02):
her own trailer. Bev and Jess shared a trailer because
they were a great apart. Yeah right, you guys weren't
in the same time.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You guys were great apart. Yes, so you guys shared
a trailer.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
Yes, but that all just had to do with keeping,
like you know, our grade proximity, so that they were
divided up that way.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
And then on any given.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Day we had to get three hours of schooling in
time wise, we could bank extra if we had the time,
and then anytime we had fifteen to twenty minutes to spare,
we weren't maybe on camera, we were off camera, they
would rush us off.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
We would go meet up with.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Susie, get in, get back to the test or whatever.
We were studying work pages every.
Speaker 8 (04:46):
Subject, and we had to essentially keep pace with our
with the schools that were that they were reporting to
on our behalf with all of our schoolwork, so that
we could graduate.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
On time and keep up with with our grades.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
Did you ever come in on your days off to
like bank extra hours because I did that.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yes, I didn't do it so much because I always
would try to go to school.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yes, But I also I was also always.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Oh no, I was. I never was in a deficit
on my hours like I was like, I always like
exceeded my bank hours.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Did you ever do a homeschool many?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Many many?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Did you ever do a homeschooling program?
Speaker 8 (05:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Were you always in a private school?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I was always in private I was always in the
college preparatory. So I was always a shmena.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
I didn't do homeschool.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I never did homeschool.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
My parents were very adamant that I was always in
in a school, and then all my days off I
would go to regular school.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
So Jesse did a few different programs, Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Jesse around.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Then Concord, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And then Shamanah for a short a tough school.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
And David graduated from there.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I was to start. I'm the reason
I have the reason David went there.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
I didn't realize I knew you would attended it, but I.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Oh no, I graduated.
Speaker 9 (06:20):
I was, yeah, because I started off at Shamanad when
when we started the show, I was a student at Shamanad.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And I knew that I wanted to stay with my class.
And you know what's funny is like everyone always asked like, well,
you know, did people treat you differently when you went
to school? And the answer for.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Me was no.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Also because everyone already knew me, so like they knew
me before I started seventh even so I was never cool,
Like I never got to play the cool card where like,
oh I'm on TV, They're like, oh whatever, By the way,
did you like? I was always behind on who was
dating who or who liked to or whatever.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
So I was always like that you always had so
many friends?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I did. I was very I was very lucky that
I still went to all the dances. I was a cheerleader,
I did all the things. That's my full high school experience.
Different experience.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Yeah, well I can inform you that the cool card
didn't work anyway.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
That made me feel better.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
You drive in with a Prowler, right, that's that's gonna land.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, yeah, I pulled in and up with Ford Explorer
with my Well, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I got.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yes, and.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
One of the it's funny because in high school that
where the cool card worked more effectively was more with
administrators and teachers, and like, so I was friends with
the security guard who at the gate where you'd come
into school to the parking lot, and I when I
would drive my prower to school, which wasn't all the time,
(08:07):
but when I would take my prowor to school, I
would just park it next to the security guard gate
and he would be like, the worry I got you.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Nobody must have watched my Ford explore they weren't very
excited about I was just excited to have a car.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
But like, yeah, the day the day I could have
my license, I had it. I was on it. I
was on that. That was a big big deal for
us back then.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Well, I have to say, given all the shows I've
worked on, Seventh Heaven looking back, gave us the most
leeway with education. I think we had science Bob. We
each had our own trailer so you you could study quietly.
It was like that doesn't exist anymore really, Yeah, And
(08:56):
like we were literally.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Just talking with Shauna too, and she was saying how
our set was like so accommodating to Happy, Like Happy
had a trailer they had space and that, like, so
it's interesting for us because we just always that was
the norm, like and.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
You know what, I thought that was the norm too
until I went to other show reality it was like,
you know, no, I mean I've had kids from eight
years old to sixteen in one room and you bounce
around and you have to teach them accordingly. In fact,
Susie came on to one show that I worked on
because it was a third grader and then there was
(09:33):
a seventh and eighth grader, and when I had to
do math with the older kids, the you know, the
eight year old was not able to like just teach
himself right or entertain himself. So Susie came on for
a while. Yeah I like that show. Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Did you ever work with Claudet on other things? I did? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:55):
I worked with her on step by Step? Oh yeah,
several years.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
That was before four.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
I worked on step by Step with Christine shed he
was eleven years old until she was eighteen. And Claude
Dette worked with the younger kids.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
I know, she did Hannah Montana after us.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
She did maybe like background kids I worked, I No,
I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
But did you work on that one or no, But
I worked worked.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
A lot with me on okay, cool and then yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
You know we're very close friends, Susie.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You and I worked together when I was a bitty
bitty bitty thing.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
We worked on two movies with Patrick Right and Rue McClanahan.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
And we are before you get into this story, Susy.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
We will be right back and then we'll learn about
the story.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Oh okay, I love that.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So, Susie, I we actually worked together when I was
little And you said you had a story.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
So I'm nine years old.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Yeah, I'm me and Casey Yeah, she was a you
were nine.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yep, you played Jersey.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
I did on two movies with Rue McClanahan and Patrick
for Duffy.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
And I have a picture of us, do you really yes?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 9 (11:30):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
And Casey was my little sister. I remember that. And
that's when Patrick Duffy got punched. Here was my grandpa
in this. We were just talking to Christine, and I
think he was I told him that when I saw
him at nineties con and he was greatly disturbed by
that when he realized that I am forty four.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
Oh well, it might have been a teenage pregnancy.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
But this was a real this was here's a call.
She Oh my gosh, you have a call? She yes,
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Guess what else I have here for you?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
What else? Oh my gosh, children of the Bride.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Yes, and here's Jersey on the back.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Oh you stop. I don't even I don't even have
these things. That's amazing. I'm gonna have to.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
We're gonna we.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Will post pictures of all this criss cross you can
have that for really?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
What else?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Keeps a lot of.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Everything that you.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Picture on the cover of Q.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I remember that picture yet smolder, one of my h
look at you one of my most try hard pictures.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Favorite?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Come on, So what is so many pictures?
Speaker 5 (12:56):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Well, I mean, you guys were such a big part
of our life ives for so.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I just loved coming to work every day and doing
school with him, spending time with him. We just had
such a wonderful connection.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
We did.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
We had a wonderful connection. I uh, I was substituting
for a previous teacher that you had, and so I
ended up staying.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
We were actually talking about that is like when you guys,
because prior to you guys coming on. We kind of
had a rotation and we didn't have so you know, he.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Brought me on to seventh time and was Barry Watson. Really,
Barry was roommates with this guy Chad and Chad worked
on a show I was on called Haying Time, okay,
and you were rotating through teachers and Barry.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Because I was a bad student.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Let's just be no, no, perfect, no, wonderful, wonderful students.
Jesse chemistry job right, the teachers, yes, And so Chad said,
we have this great teacher. She gets along with all
the students. You should you know, meet her. I was
not in the union, so technically I wasn't able to
(14:13):
come on, but because you went through so many Union teachers,
I was able to interview and and that was the
end of the story. And I got into the union
on my birthday January seventh, getting all my days.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
On the people might not I was membership person for studios.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
The Studio Teachers Union is very difficult to get into the.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
House with flowers, these all these presents. I still have that.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Little We're so happy.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
Can you explain a little bit about the Susie was
leopard and if you brought Sarah, she saw your turtles.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Yeah, I still wants.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
We were wondering that can you explain a little bit
about the process of getting into the studio Teachers' Union,
because I know that it's difficult.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
It's very difficult to get into it.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Now. It's like jobs are so scarce.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, I think, how long does it take now? Or then?
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Well I was trying to get in the union for
eight and a half years.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Wow, I like the DGAs.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Non union and then you know, this was my lucky
break and so besides having one of the best experiences
ever and it was two great students. I loved everyone.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
She also, by the way, was a referee in our
trailer between Jesse and I show a couple of pictures.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Bev was extremely studious, head studious, head down, focus, focus, focus.
Jesse could have a chicken on her shoulder while she worked.
I have pictures of it. Remember, Yeah, well she can't.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
She just would always she was.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah, science spot brought us a chicken. She asked for
a week or two.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I remember that we had a chicken in our class.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Do you remember that?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Maybe it was like you were different ends.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I do remember though so many times I actually distinctly
remember a conversation where I was dealing with faith and
I was very hardcore in my Christian faith at that time,
and Jesse was challenging me. And I remember that you
played referee and You're like, I am in the middle
(16:40):
of this conversation between these two and there's no right
or wrong, and I'm trying to just like play nice
because we got in. It was our first like real debate,
and it was I just remember you managing.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Us very well.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Oh good.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Do you remember it differently?
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I don't remember it. Oh, I mean, I know I refereed,
don't remember this particular conversation, but it was just different
learning styles.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
With other students.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
But I also think that because Jesse and I were
we were so close in age that it's like we
were meant to battle like we were. And Jesse also
knew like it was a It brought her great joy
to like push my buttons, and I didn't know how
to like recognize when she was doing it on purpose.
(17:28):
I figured.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Constantly.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
But it is it is funny now as we're adults
and now we're both like mothers and we have kids
like a day apart. Yeah, Maisiel and and Finny are
day apart. Yeah, Maizie and Finny a our day apart.
She was there was supposed to be a few more
days apart, but Jesse delivered early, so they are literally
(17:57):
a day apart. But it is very funny though, also
because I'm actually we've flipped. I'm the more relaxed one
and more chill and she's the more scheduled and like
structured parent and I'm not structured at all. Really, yeah,
we've completely flipped the switch.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
The other thing was you were younger than Jesse on
the show, but older, but but older.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, and I saw her.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
You had this like beautiful bubbly handwriting and all of
your letters would be the same, and it was so organized,
you know, mine was like, you know, sloping down the
page and it would you know, are you in context
of the loosely I would like to go see on
this trip to go meet your little Yeah. Yeah, so
(18:44):
I'm going to hopefully make that happen next week.
Speaker 10 (18:47):
She was very I adore today.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
You know, she's she's basically like her and Dawn where
my mother's really so I hope I get to see her.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
How is she doing?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
She's doings doing fine?
Speaker 7 (19:01):
Yeah, and Emily and Eric good yeah with her really
good Okay.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
And Emily is doing well, she has she got place
a couple of years ago, right, and she's still is
that no, but somewhere else in the same kind of work.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
So many there's so many things besides I love but
we bring when we bring up something there me. There's
so many things, stories behind the scenes, and it brings
back memories.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Oh Sam, and.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
The show changed my life in so many ways. Can
I talk about course?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Of course, one was, Uh.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
David had a very special teacher at the Shamanad that
you would go to and and I heard about this
wonderful man. And David's counselor was my leison to get
work and to give you know, send his work in
(20:11):
and get work from. And she told me about Bob Dkanti,
who was affectionately called Deco. And you know him too well,
you had him as a teacher, yep. Well, my mother
had just passed away and everyone seemed to think that
I would really like him, so they introduced me to him,
(20:35):
and I went to my first prom at Shamanad with
Robert D. Kanti and we stayed together for twenty years
and we had wonderful twenty years together. But he passed
away in twenty nineteen and David and his whole family
were at this funeral.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Yeah, Bob was a really beautiful man. He was just
an absolute sweetheart. And I remember when I used to
go to Shamanad was he was a religious studies teacher
and he would teach art and he had this but
which always left a big impression on me. But he
(21:16):
had this beautiful sculpture that he had made from a
piece of driftwood that he found and he turned it
into this like a crucifix style sculpture that was up
in the office at school.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
It was up for years.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
Yeah, he was a very talented, artistic, a beautiful person,
and miss him.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Bob was a great guy.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
He loved David and what's not love.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
But I'm very fortunate now because I reunited with one
of my high school boyfriends. I went to a reunion
after Bob passed away, and now we've been together for
five years and he's in the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
But we're happy to have you both.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Another wonderful thing that happened was I acquire a beautiful
Persian cat called mingi Uh that we had. We had
cats on the seid, didn't we?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
They were underneath the trailers.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Yeah, non cats. We had guest cats, didn't we or
did there?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I mean I remember stray cats.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
They're they're under the trailer. I think the trainer, Shawna
Shanna had some cats from Stuart Low.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
So we were talking about the Persians and you didn't
get cat Zilla, did you?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
That was one of them.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
No. No, I got this beautiful silver shaded dum Persian
cat because the Stephen Collins assistant couldn't keep the cat,
didn't get along with hers. Oh, so she called me
up and she brought the cat over and I never
gave it bath. That cat passed away, But like I'm
(23:08):
on my sixth Persian cat. Another wonderful thing.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
When we get back, Susie will tell us all about
her rescue edibles.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
It is quite the collection that she's had over the years.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Okay, and we've got some amazing you guys have brought
some amazing pictures. And there is really a chicken on
Jesse's shoulder while she's doing schoolwork.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
There you go, let's see.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I mean, there's that's real chicken. I mean we didn't
I mean concentrate not everyone can concentrate with a chicken
on their backs.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
I don't think concentration was the goal, just saying I
also see maybe not.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Some really cool sunglasses that Jesse. Oh yeah, but I mean, Cheryl,
we have so many.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
So many memories. So because Susie told her cat stories,
I have to talk about Max dogs, Mollie and Ollie. Yeah,
and Mac and her mom Donna promised my daughter one
of their puppies when they had puppies and years past,
I wasn't even working on the show anymore, but I
(24:24):
got a call that the puppies were born and one
was going to be Sarah's. And anyway, long story short,
we had Wally and Wally was the love of our
life for thirteen years. And I'm just going to show
this picture of Hollie and Mollie and Wally. And then
(24:45):
Catherine's daughter took Lollie.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
Yeah, yes, gosh, what kind of a dog was yerkis
yorkys Yorkish?
Speaker 4 (24:54):
And I'll never forget Sarah's face when your mom told her, Sarah,
your puppy was born, and she's like, what what? I
don't even think she'd remember, and then her eyes teared
up and she was like, oh my god, oh my god,
you're so happy. You brought us a lot of happiness.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
They think sures are amazing.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
And then this was a holiday gift one year seventh
to seven.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
We have so many really cool gifts. Yeah one of them,
I know it's funny.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Definitely have them from the middle.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
But yeah, these are back when we we have I mean,
we have the quads. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Here, hand me some of the ones that you've seen.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
There's a picture of you holding the two of Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, absolutely show because we had four four. There was
a lot of kids on our show.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
There was that's Joe, a lot of guests.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
It's one of the pictures in there has Lance.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Bass yep, because Lance was on the show My Boyfriend
or playing Here there's.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Waiting in line. He was so shy, he didn't know
where to go. He he was so sweet and he
was waiting outside all by himself, and I went over
to him and was talking and he wasn't like really famous,
he was just kind of break.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I mean, is always fus.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Who did Jill teach?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Ok, so she did the Welfare baby baby Wrangler, But
because there were so many of them, we all participated,
were so cute.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
There he is. He looks exactly the same, has not changed.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I also remember what was really cool was we were
able to decorate our trailers brought in, so we were
we remember everybody, everybody school room looked uniquely different. Me
had your personalities absolutely, Yeah, like I think it was.
You could definitely tell when you walked into each of
(27:11):
our school rooms like who it belonged to, because we
were able to kind of like decorate it and make
it homeie and make it our own.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
To be clear, you decorated your school trailer.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
She decorated her her other trailer.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Your regular trailer was also I remember decorated. Absolutely My
trailer looked like stock the trailer. I didn't put pictures up.
I didn't do that. I just I came in with
my bag and put my bag down. I changed and
I didn't spend any time in there.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Are we surprised.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Unless I went to sleep.
Speaker 10 (27:45):
Yeah, I wanted it for I always wanted to be Yes,
and one gave us some chickens, actually the two chickens.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Really Yeah, yep, there he is.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
He had these little like bantam because he was was
he from El Salvador or I think maybe yeah sounds right. Yeah,
and he had these little Salvadory and chicken and then
we got big chickens and then our dogs ate those.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah. Oh.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
For all these years of being studio teachers, what was
like the most memorable set.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
For me?
Speaker 5 (28:22):
I would say this one, this one, and also Step
by Step with Christine Lake and great answers.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Okay, I would say this one, and second it would
be Jesse the Disney show Jesse.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
So I worked on that for five years, and then
some of the kids went on to Bunk and I
worked un Bumped also, so you got to follow them.
I got to follow them. I got to go to
high school graduations.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Did you guys didn't work on Secret Life for the
American Teenager? Right?
Speaker 8 (28:51):
No?
Speaker 5 (28:52):
I think I did a little bit, and Mac did,
didn't I run into you with the ranch?
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
When you what did you work on?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I did? Secretly?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I was a little blip once.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Yeah, when I worked on that once in a while.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
And I was I was the college counselor on that.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
Show, and so that was really cool because he basically
it was like our entire crew.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Melissa was on that show and shared.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Everybody the wardrobe. They took majority.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Like, yeah, it was like basically the.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Whole, the whole you guys could talk about the set
you went on to without me after this.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Andrew Keegan was another one who was a guest.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
We actually saw Andrew nineties con did y.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah he looks.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Very cansome guy.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
He's still the most handsome guy.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah, yeah, he's date he Yeah, there's a few. That
list is long.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
In the nineties, Oh, he was that guy. But he
was also he was everyone's boyfriend on every nineties show,
like he was the heart throb. But yes, at like
every show.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
When you think of your nineties boyfriend, I think he
is Andrew materialized.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
I was in They did like an ad on me
being Andrew Keegan's teacher on Step by Step, and they
did like a thing and Beat magazine.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I still have that, oh boy, I remember.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Yeah, they still have magazines like that, like those magazines.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I don't think maybe, yeah, not as popular as the nineties.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I don't think we have Instagram now. Yeah, they're they're
they're I think the boy I have.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
A picture of him from our set somewhere and isn't
that Oh, I guess that's who's thet.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
Yes, okay, she isn't pregnant.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
No she's not.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
No, she was like sixteen or seventeen there.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I mean she is so cute. Yes, yeah, that's so fun.
And then we also have this this magic you guys
check this out. Yeah, and for this at all that's mad.
Speaker 10 (31:34):
Yes, that's but children, that's really funny.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I think before we wrap up, because we're having so
much fun, what would be i''m gonna put you guys
on the spot. What was your favorite memory if you
can think of one of being our teachers? Is there
something that like stands out in your mind?
Speaker 5 (31:58):
The big one, well, I mean i'd love to hear
lane was having David Gallagher graduate from USC and Clint
Eastwood being the.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
The speaker at my graduation.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
And they also did not from the.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Yeah, Stehen and Katherine King to my graduation. We uh,
I had always said, because I was shooting for USC
Film School from like basically middle school, like I knew
that's where I wanted to go to college. I remember
I got excited about going to Shamanad because I had
heard that Shamanad has a like a high.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Throughput to USC. We did a big turnout for that college.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
And I've always said that Susie is the one who
worked her ass off to get me into USC and
it worked, and so he.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Gave me his hat. I couldn't find it. I know,
I I thought I had it all ready to bring you,
you know, in the drawer, and it wasn't there when I.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I mean, you guys brought us more than.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
And I'm I'm happy for the friendships I made. I'm
I'm very close with David's whole family. They went to
my mother's funeral, They went to my my Bob's funeral.
Christine Laken, I love her too. She I was her
teacher for seven years and she read my mother's eulogy
(33:34):
for me when my mother passed away. And when she graduated,
her parents flew me to Georgia for her graduation.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
And we went to Europe.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
I heard this to Europe for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
We heard the days. Yes, yeah, she said some of
these things that we're not going to talk about all
the details, but we.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Had a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I love that. That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Isolate one memory because there are so many. Really, you
and Jesse meant the world to me. We as did
the show.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
We are all so I can speak. I will speak
on behalf of both Jesse and I to say thank
you very much for your patience and forgetting us through
all those hard times. And you know, I think all
of us here it's it's it's an opportunity to say
thank you for being an integral part in our life
(34:33):
and our development and who we became as humans and
having that support system behind the scenes and that protection.
So thank you, so so very much.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
So very welcome. That's the joy of teaching. Just hearing
things like that and seeing how you've all blossomed. Really,
that's our.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Joy we do and you m I love.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
You, dear, and we're so grateful for you guys to
join us on the podcast. Well, thank you so very
much for joining us, and join us on our next
episode of Catching Up with the Camdens. We've got more
stories to come, more guests, and more heartfelt memories, So
see you next time. Oh and like all the buttons
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Speaker 3 (35:14):
The things, hey, guys.
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