July 4, 2022 • 40 mins
Chiquis is joined by aesthetic nurse practitioner Ginille Brown to talk about all things Botox and fillers! Chiquis tells us about her years-long experience with these cosmetic services, what made her start and why she’s happy with her decision. Nurse Ginille talks about what her customers want most, more men joining the trend and the reason you might want to get started with these treatments sooner rather than later.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
I feel like I look a lot younger than my
age one. My skincare too. I've been doing botox and fillers.
I say, do whatever makes you happy, and it's definitely
made me happy. Mid to late twenties, early thirties is
where a lot of people they're starting to notice the lines.
They're faintly getting edged when patients come later in their life.
Botox is not gonna make it completely gone. Now for
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so long, it's like I would always hear, especially like
in the Latin culture, No, I want a woman that's natural,
not fake. What does that even mean? What? Up? Everyone?
Felis Lunas. Welcome to Cheeks and Chill podcast. I'm your
host cheek Ease, and I'm so happy you're here with
me today. Today we're going to be talking about beauty,
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especially about some non invasive facial procedures. So, without further ado,
let's get into it. This is chick Ease and Chill. Okay,
So let's talk about botox and fillers. This is something
that I think used to be found upon, but I
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feel like it's becoming more and more mainstream, which I
absolutely love because I love botox, I love fillers. I
love the aesthetic world. I love the beauty industry. I
started getting botox when I was twenty four. I feel
like perhaps I didn't need it as much then, but
I got it because I wanted to. Because my business partner, Judy,
who is my business partner and befall a skin She
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has her own aesthetic spaw in Corona, and I would
go see her for facials and things like that, and
she's the one that suggested. She's like, you should start
getting bow talks to prevent and I'm so glad she
did because I feel like I look a lot younger
than my age. One my skincare and two I've been
doing bow talks and fillers for a while, actually bot
talks first, and then I started getting fillers just a
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couple of years ago. But yeah, I love it, and
I say, heck yes, do whatever makes you happy, and
it's definitely to me very happy. So now that I've
shared a little bit about my experience with this stuff,
I want to welcome our guest, Janille Brown. She's an
aesthetic nurse practitioner based in Santa Monica. She's been in
the industry since so I'm so happy she's here. Welcome Janielle,
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how are you good? Thank you so much for having me.
Of course I went like on a whole like thing
about like I started at twenty four. I mean, maybe
I didn't need it, but I feel like it's important
to prevent. And also if you're like a little older
and you have like superficial like you know, lines and
stuff like that, like I'm so fort filler by the way,
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you guys, I wish you guys could see this woman.
She's so beautiful. Oh my gosh, you are very pretty.
I'm like looking at you, I'm like, look at you.
Start at you look amazing. Oh, thank you so much. Yeah,
it's because you know, now, I think people are more
open about it. But yeah, a lot of people have questions.
A lot of people, especially like in the Latin culture.
I feel like they are afraid. I mean maybe yes,
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because they're like, okay, how much is it going to be?
First of all, and then also because they've heard different things.
So I just I'm glad that you're here so we
can talk about all that stuff. Yes, we can talk
about all of it anything, Okay, awesome. So first of all,
tell us a little bit about how you got into
the beauty industry because you did start off as a nurse. Correct. Yes,
so I'm a nurse practitioner and I was just offered
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a job in a medspall. I was interviewing for an
e er emergency room and the girl that I met said, Hey,
you should come to my medspall. You can inject botox
and fillers. I did not know what that was at all.
I was either and we had just moved to l A.
And I was like, I don't even know what that is,
Like I can't help you, Like I've never learned about that.
I thought it was just really people on TV and
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like super fancy. She's like, just come check it out.
She's like, people would love this opportunity. Um, just see
what it's about. So I had this like preconceived thought,
and I went to the clinic. It was just like
regular your women. And then I was like hearing their
stories all throughout the day about why they get stuff,
how they feel more beautiful, how they just look normal,
(04:09):
like they wouldn't looked like you know, some people think
it's gonna be plastic or you're gonna look fake, and
I didn't experience that at all. So I was like, Oh,
this is pretty neat and people are happy to be here.
And so yeah, I took the job. I learned, they
taught me a lot, and then I, you know, I've
been doing this now for nine years. I just continued
to like learn as I'm going through it. Yeah, it's
because the beauty industry is just I feel like, so fulfilling,
(04:31):
Like it just makes you happy, like to make other
people happy, you know what I mean. Like I don't know,
like it's very different, but I had like a blow
dry bar it's called blow Me Dry, and I did
makeup and blow drys and all kinds of stuff. It
was just beautifying yourself. And it's just the people, like
women even men would walk in there and get their
haircuts and their hair blow dried and their makeup done,
and it's just like they walked in one person and
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walked out another person. And I feel like, this is
why I love the beauty industry so much. I love
the aesthetic world. So it's because of that, because you
just feel more confident you just and then let's be honest.
In the society that we live in, there's so much
pressure subconsciously or consciously on social media, where like I
should look like that blah blah blah. So when you
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do a little something for yourself like that, you just
feel like, Okay, my smile change is a little bit,
you know. Yeah, for sure, my patients tell me they
just feel refreshed, They feel rested. They don't have to
like put as much makeup, Like they're like, I can
get ready quicker. Just little things like people don't know
what I did, but they're like, you look good. Yeah,
(05:34):
that's the word refreshed. Have you gotten any botox yourself
for like um fillers and stuff. I've done my whole
face and every time I like post about what I've
done on social media like TikTok and things like, people
just want to see more. Yeah, those ones go viral.
I think probably the biggest thing is like my underwrite
filler's I've done. I've done everything I've done, eyes, cheeks, temples, chin.
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I just started my weeks because again, you guys, I
am maturing. I started doing my cheeks like right like
by the eye area, and it just lifts everything up.
I don't know what it's called exactly, but like the
needle goes straight in. I feel like it doesn't hurt
that bad to be honest, I feel like I don't know,
but I've done that. I just started doing that and
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then now I'm doing I grind my teeth so they're
doing this. What is this called? So we do masters
to relax the muscles so it helps with clinching and headaches.
Grinding jall pain. Yeah, I started doing that and if
I feel like it's kind of thinned out my face
a little bit more. So we started with that. But anyways,
you look great. You look amazing, by the way, So like,
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I love the under I need to do more under
eye you guys, because I'm getting like the dark start. Yeah,
do you inject yourself? I'm sure you don't write you
have someone else that injects you, right, I mean, I've
had my colleagues do it. But sometimes I'm just like,
let me do what I need to do. Okay, See,
I think I would be like you. I'd be like,
you know what, I know what I'm doing, I know
what I want. I could do it myself. I know
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people are like that's a dangerous. I mean, I know
what I like, he said, I know what I'm trying
to do. I just sit there and I can be
focused and yeah, nice okay. So when you're seeing your clients,
is there like a certain approach that you take, Like
do you let your clients just tell you, hey, I
don't like this or whatnot? Or do you suggest stuff?
I do both. So for me, it's always a conversation
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with my patients. I've been seeing some of the same
people for the past nine years, and I tell them
every time you come in the chair, we're going to
talk about what you're seeing. That's really going to help
guide me. Because if somebody comes in and there's this
little line that's like such a big deal to them,
I want to make sure we can address that and
not just like into them. If that's like they're big thing,
I want to make sure we can focus on it.
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But what I am thinking about when I look at
somebody's face is like I'm also considering what's beneath the kid.
So you might say, like something's going on with my cheeks.
I'm thinking about the muscles, the fat pads, the bone,
how things are changing with aging, with weight law, and
so a lot of it is conversing with the patients,
making sure they can understand what I'm doing, why I'm
(08:06):
trying to do it. But really understanding the aging process.
So talking to them about where we lose volume. You know,
people will start noticing lines just with aging or weight
loss from like their under eyes like kind of split
into their chief and then the smile lines so like
from the nose kind of curves down and then from
the corners of their mouth kind of down. I know,
it's like little details. And so I'll talk with them
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and I always say, look, the stuff I'm presenting is
not to ever be mean. I'm not trying to hurt
people's feelings. I'm like, if you're open to it, here
I can tell you what I see from you know,
the medical side, and how we can approach that. And
there's gonna be some things that there's just limitations. We
won't be able to do with botox and fillers like
non surgically. But here's how we can achieve X, Y
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and Z if we can achieve what they're going for. Yeah,
so I think that's super important, just to be completely
like transparent. I mean, would you ever say to someone like, no,
I don't see that's a good idea, or do you
just do what they what they asked for? Oh? No,
we definitely have a conversation. If there's something that we
don't see eye to eye, I tell the patients like,
(09:11):
let's table this today. I want us to both be
on the same page if we're doing something and there's
gonna be sometimes like if we just you know, if
I'm just like, I really don't think that's going to
serve you. Here's why we have those conversations, Like I'm
not gonna be just like do any and everything. I
want people to feel beautiful. And most people that come
to me, they kind of know my aesthetic already, so
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I don't get super over the top like crazy request.
A lot of people that find me, they see my
work and they're like, oh, people look like themselves, like
I said, they refresh the right, Like that's what I'm
going for, Like I want to look like me maybe
five years ago, where like I wasn't noticing these shadows
or now my concealer is not covering what it used to.
So most people that find me are like, they already
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like my aesthetic. Okay, your style of doing things right
where it's like I want to look natural, like I
want to look like you said myself, you know, because
I don't know a lot of people might not know this, okay,
but I'm thirty seven, so I started when I was
twenty four. A lot of people come up to me,
especially when I have no makeup on, and they're like,
oh my gosh, you look like you're twenty eight. And
I honestly think it's one because I do my best
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to take care of myself, especially with like my skincare
and botox and fillers have been a big thing. I
feel like it's better to start personally earlier on so
that you keep that refreshed look. So when people start
doing it when they need it, it's more noticeable and
it's kind of, oh, ship, what did that person do?
It depends each style, Like if that's like your thing
and you want to look a certain way, then that's
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what it is, you know what I mean. But for me,
it's like I've always thought of preventing. How can I prevent?
I just started also getting botox here in my neck,
you guys. That has been freaking amazing, okay, because I
was like, something's going out with my neck. I'm starting
to notice a little something. Yes, And they put like
a bunch of them here, like like kind of like
a course set that she created with botox, which that's
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one thing that I was like, dude, it made a
huge difference. And then I started getting like the upside
down smile. And when you were talking about like the
corner of your mouth, now, I'm start starting to come back.
You need to go see any time we could do it.
I know. It's just like these little things I treat patients.
I treat everybody, but a lot of my people come
like mid twenties to like late forties, and that's when
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they're just like something is going on. Most people are
kind of like I'm I'm almost thirty five, so kind
of around our age, you're just like, what's going on?
Like some things are changing, and they're like I woke
up like this. I didn't have these lives. They probably
didn't wake up like this, but all of a sudden
they see it, and like once you see it, it's
kind of hard to unsee it. And that's what prompted
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me to get stuff too. I have two kids, and
after my first one at breastfed for so long, I like,
you know, I gained weight and I lost a bunch
of weight from feeding the baby, and like I just
look gaunt. I was like, this is not what I'm
used to seeing. And so that's where I was like,
what can I do to like make me look like myself?
And I will tell you people didn't even know. Like
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people always think like I can tell every person that
does lip filler. I can tell anybody that gets botox.
They don't know, like nobody knew. That's like nobody. But
my best friend for like high school, he's like, what
do you mean you He's like, I didn't I knew
you did it to people, Like I didn't know you
were putting it in your face, Like how do you
think I keep showing up looking to say yeah? I
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think it also has a lot to do with your
style or how how you do it. You know, you
don't overdo it. You know there are people out there
that want to look done up or really change the
structure of your face. And that's totally all right. I'm
just that type of person. It's like I want to
just like where I've lost volume, mom, I'm aging, and
I want to age gracefully, you know, quote unquote gracefully.
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But I mean, I do you know, that's just my
thing I'm all about. Dude, do your plastic surgery, do
whatever the heck you want to do. But you know
what I really like about you. It sounds like you
really care about your patients and making them the best
versus how much money you can make. You know what
I mean, because if not, you say yes to everything
and be like, yeah, that's what you want whatever. But
I think it's all about longevity. It's like, I want
to be in this industry for a long time, and
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it's literally your name behind all these faces. I love
that I can already tell that about you. So I
I that's like I said, I've been treating some of
the same people for the past nine years, and then
I treat their mom, and then their daughter, and then
their sister and then their best friend. So I treat
like families, and then my patients kind of become like
a part of my family. It's really nice because I
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tell my patients like before they even come into clinic,
I already pre consult with every person, like on zoom.
I want to know like kind of what's driving them,
what are they seeing? Like tell me about your what
do you do for work? Because I'm going to treat
like a person that gets their money from like being
on only fans different than somebody that's like, I'm a
school teacher, Like I need to know what drives them,
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what are they seeing, what are they trying to go for?
Like the more I know about them, the better I
can serve them. So I'm like, I have to talk
with you and know what's going on. And I probably
talked too much to them and I asked too many
questions and I explained stuff way too much. But I'm like,
I'm putting a needle in your face, like this is
not a random thought, this is not a random product,
and like what I do on you could be completely
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different than your twin sister. I love that you asked
about like their career what they do on a daily basis,
because it's like you wanted to be fitting to what
they do and it's not like a, I think that's
amazing that you ask so many questions. I think that
that wow. I mean, I mean it's crazy because usually
like people do consultations, but they're fairly just quick and
straight to the point. But if you're like really like, hey,
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you're a teacher, and you you want to just look refreshed,
you know what I mean, Like, it does change because
even if you're on television, like I come out on television,
and that's where I started noticing my next situation where
I was like, I started seeing myself. I was like,
oh wait, like I turned a certain way, and I'm like,
I'm not liking that, you know what I mean? And
I don't know. So it's been really helping me. I
just I don't know, I want more, Okay, I'm just
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I'm obsessed with this stuff, guys. Whatever, I don't care
what anyone thinks. I just feel like it is a
part of an investing in yourself for you to feel better.
And what I do you know on TV? Like I
need to feel good Okay, so you're gonna judge me
or whatever. What are some like popular procedures, like what
(15:18):
what do people come in for? Most? So I really
I'm like facial injectables. Um, A lot of people come
to me for under eyes, under eyes, nose, jaw lines,
and then everybody like lips. I do that day and
day out. T MJ botox, which you kind of mentioned
earlier for the jaw pain, and then cosmetic botox. I mean,
(15:39):
this is what I do all day Okay. So one
thing I just recently learned as well Botox is basically
the name brand. Correct, Like there's like I started doing
Disport and Botox. Do you prefer one versus the other.
It's the same thing, it's just different brands. Correct. Yeah,
we have four in the United States that are currently
FDA approved. So we have Botox, this Zmin, Javo. I
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offer Botox, Disport Zmin. I've used VOW. I love it too.
I tell patients if you have like everybody knows Botox
because they make commercials and stuff. They don't usually know
the other brands. I tell patients try one, see if
you have a preference. A lot of people can't tell
a difference. They're all FDA approved for three to four months.
Some people can. I mean I can say I like
Disport like, but I like them all. Uh. Yeah, I've
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tried Botox and I've tried Disport and now that's what
I'm using now, and I really I really like it.
I feel like it kicks in a little faster and
it lasts a little longer for me. A lot of
people say that, Yeah, I've really liked it, and it
are like lip fill are still super popular or people
still coming in a lot for that. Yeah, and the jawline.
Like I feel like just the last two years have
just got it's gone like freaking bananas. I think people
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are seeing themselves on camera more, and like when you
were saying the part about you seeing yourself on in
front of the camera, that is what helped me, like
to become a better injector. It's l a. So everybody's
on camera and gorgeous people like will come to me
and like I I see this line. I'm like, I
don't see a line what you're talking about. But when
they show me their film or their photos and they're like,
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I keep getting edited out or look from this angle,
I was like, so I had to like start learning
those little details that are really impactful. But now I think,
you know, people seeing themselves on zoom or whatever social media,
if they're posting and they're starting to see like little
things and then the filter, they're like, well if I
filter my face like that, you know, they like the
little jawline thing. So a nice little defined, snatched jawline,
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you know. I tried. I went in once and I asked,
I was like, hey, what do you think about me
defining a little bit more? And what she had suggested
at the time was for me to do. I can
never pronounce it right, Guipella, Guipella, what is that called kaibella?
There you go? So she she suggested that under my
chin to get rid of that fat, and then we
(17:50):
were going to like look at it later. But I mean,
I don't know. I kind of sometimes feel like I
want a little bit more. I don't know, the more
I look, like you said, on social media, you know,
you're on Snapchat or you do like whatever, like you know,
like the front camera just shows you so many different things,
or even face two now with Dawn face tune, you
go in there, you're like, oh, Dane, I don't know
I had that, and you're like smoothing everything out. So
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I think that's also I hadn't thought about that until
you said it. Where I'm like, people are noticing it more,
and that's why I think this industry is growing as
much as it is because of social media. I mean,
it's a hard it's a hard balance because I you know, again,
I get people in there that are just dropped it gorgeous,
and I'm like gosh, and they're seeing you, like well
when I filter like this, and I'm like gosh, Like
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sometimes We have those conversations where it's like maybe not like,
you're not gonna look exactly like this filter, even if
I put a ton of filler, like you're not going
to have no lines at all on your face. So
sometimes it's just like do we want to do this,
Like you know, what is the root that you're really
trying to get to. We just have those conversations to
make sure I don't know, I don't want this thing
where I'm like, it's not gonna be you. You're not
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gonna be happy with this at the end of the
day because we're trying to chase some unrealistic thing to achieve.
So and now that you mentioned that, I do have
a friend that uses this one filter I think on Instagram,
and she was using it so much that it's just
kind of it made her obviously want to really look
like that. And she went somewhere and it's so crazy
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that you said that. She went and she said, I
want to look like I look with this filter on.
Her lips were a little bit thicker, you know, fuller,
I mean, and then her jawline and they were just like,
I think it's just getting way too into people's heads.
And I think my personal thing is like I still
want to look like Jenne like cheek ease, but I
just want to look like you know. But we have
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to be realistic about it as well and listening to
people like listen to your to your esthetic nurse, you know,
and listen to them they know best. Okay, that's my
only advice. Um Men, men are also doing it a
lot more. I've noticed that they're getting a little bit
more comfortable. They're going in for sure for their chins,
They're going in for their jawline botox. Now, eyes are
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getting a little bit more comfortable. Are you seeing more men? Now?
Oh I had a men's both box party last week.
I see and oh yeah, yeah, Like it's really cool
when they like let me share their stories that put
up videos and a lot of them are very comfortable
and they're just like, yeah, I do this for me,
Like I don't like these lines and they're getting deep,
or my dad has these lines and I don't want
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to look like I'm so angry. I don't have to
look frozen and plastic. But the guys want to look
good too. And I mean I see young, I see old,
I see black, white, I see everybody I thought I
was going to ask you, is it more Latino, more
white black guys? Like I see everybody like I I mean,
And I've had guys that come in and I'm like
treating them and then they're like, oh, I need to
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refer my wife. I'm like, okay, Like it usually is
like the life refers has been. But I've seen it
both ways, and they look like them saying refresh. You
wouldn't know they did something, but they just look good.
I can even see, like the COMFID it's increasing each
time I see them, and like from there before photos
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to their after photos kind of like the little gloomer
in their eyes. Like yep, guys want to look like
they they like the masculine job they like, you know,
their nose they like, and they like botox and TMJ.
I do that a lot too. Nice. See, I'm not
mad at that. I think that that a guy. I
love a guy that gets a pedicure and the manicure
and wants to go and like get his you know,
(21:25):
his little frown lines done or his crowsfeet, you know
what I mean. Like I got my boyfriend to do
it for the first time. I took him to go
get his He wanted like his chin a little bit
like more defined and stuff, and he absolutely loved it.
He's like, what the heck, why didn't I know about
this before? You know? So I think, I think it's awesome.
Does your husband do it? Does he go to you?
Or no? He so for years he's like, like, dumb
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do stuff And I was like, you can do X
y Z. He's like no, and then he started. I
get like a lot of skincare from the companies and stuff,
and sometimes I just can't use it all. But he
kept like walking around with eye patches and I was like,
why do you keep wearing those? And he's like, we're
not using them. So I was like, do you just
want like some filler under your eyes? He's like, if
you need a before and after for your page, like
(22:09):
I do it. So we did like everything. We didn't
photos with his eyes with his chin, and he's like,
I don't see difference. I'm like, you don't see difference,
But everybody at his work was like, what do you
guys do He looks good? Like his face definitely looks brighter,
and yeah, they stopped wearing the eye patches. Thank goodness.
(22:30):
That guys are getting more comfortable with it because for
so long, it's like, you know, I would always hear,
especially like in the Latin culture, it's kind of like, no,
I want a woman that's natural or not not fake
quote unquote, like what does that even mean? First of all,
like not fake naturally, like shut up, you're not even
gonna notice first of all. And now I'm like, thank goodness,
(22:51):
they're more open to it, and it's just like, dude,
it's my face. I want to look pretty for myself
and for you, you you know, but like what's your take
on that? Like someone that would come in and be like, well,
you know, I don't want to look quote unquote fake.
Everybody says it every day, but I think when they
have them really like look at my my stuff beforehand,
I want them to understand like what I'm doing, my approach,
(23:12):
my pictures, and so then they already know, like they're like, oh, well,
all your people look like themselves, they look fresh. So
they always say it like I just want to look
like myself. I want to look natural. I don't want
to look fake. But they're like, I'm coming to you
because I see your work. I like your aesthetic, and
that's what I'm going for, And I'm not saying like
I'm the end all be all, like I'm the beauty master,
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because other people may want something that's even less dramatic
than I do, or more dramatic, and they're going to
find like their injector that serves them. So it's really
about like doing that research, having those conversations, finding somebody's
aesthetic style that you like, and then you feel like
you can trust you can ask questions. Yeah, my only
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thing to those of you that are listening that maybe
have not gotten botox or fillers because of what other
people would think or you're afraid. Honestly, it's it's really,
at the end of the day, your complete choice. Like
I don't think anyone should have a say in it. Besides, like,
if you want to look a certain way and if
you don't want to ever do it, don't do it.
That's totally fine, you know, but don't let anyone else
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come in and tell you not to. Like I've been
doing it for X amount of years and it's been
great and I love it, and I think that I'm
always gonna work towards that, and I always put some
money just to the side for it because it's something
that makes me happy and I like to invest in myself.
But that was just a little something I wanted to
also share because it's great to be natural and not
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get anything done. That's awesome. That's that's amazing, and it's
also great if you want to just do whatever you
want to do yourself. You know, no one should judge personally,
that's just I don't know. Sometimes it just irritates me
because it's like, oh, no, you're not natural. Oh my goodness.
I'm just like, whatever, give him the finger. So what
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is like, in your opinion, a good age to start
getting botox or fillers. I I tell people that's totally
up to you. But I will say, like usually mid
to late twenties, early thirties is where a lot of
people come. They're starting to notice like the lines are
faintly getting etched, and they usually are getting annoyed by that.
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When patients come later in their life and like late forties,
mid forties, and if they you know, haven't taken care
of their skin, if they have really deep lines, they
get disappointed when I tell them, look, these lines are etched,
Like botox is not gonna make it completely gone. Now
like they're they've been set in on the skin now,
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so then they're kind of like, well what can I do?
How do I get rid of them? And then well
we can't, like they're there so preventative. Like I used
to think it was a big hoax when I first started,
but it works, like you know, if the muscles are
not actively making those strong lines, they're never going to
get set in. And that's one of the reasons that
I actually started botox was because I was afraid. My
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whole family has this. It's hereditary. It's um the line
right here, what is it called the levin or whatnot
on your eyebrows. Yes, so my grandpa has it, my
uncle's have it, my my mom. My mom started doing
botox a little later in her life, but she she
didn't get it because she started getting like fillers and stuff,
so she did it right on time before like stuck.
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So that was in my head all the time, and
I was like, I don't want that line. Even some
of my cousins have it, you know, And that's one
of the reasons I was like, I'm going to start
this now because and then the under the bags as well,
So that's why I started doing under I have my
sister Jackie on it, like I sent her down to
my business partner. I sent her to her and I
was like, you need to go. And I think I
gave her a gift card for Christmas because she's a
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mom before she's married, so she's always just the kids
and this. And then I'm like, girl, you needed to
care yourself. You need to care yourself for yourself and
for your husband. So she started getting She did this
thing on her underwege and it looks great because we
all like, you have to know, look at your family,
look at the elders and your family, and be like, Okay,
that's probably where I'm heading. If I want to prevent
that stuff, maybe I should start. Now. That's my personal opinion.
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I agree, and I mean, you know, if people don't
want to get it. Some people are just like I
don't want to do that or whatever. It's a finances thing,
like at the basic, at the very least, I'm like,
worse on block use a retinoid, Like yes, you like
the skin stuff, because that's also going to take you long.
Like skincare, you guys, is huge. I have my own
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skincare line and I've been doing since I was sixteen.
I was just so into like all the seventeen magazines
and all that stuff, and I just love skincare and
I'm so glad that I did because I'm huge on SPF.
Like I'm I'm one to say, where every single day,
even if it's cloudy outside, even if it's winter, it
does not matter. You will save yourself a ton of
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trouble in the future. Again, preventing, I'm all about preventative.
One thing that a lot of people ask and I
wanted you to clarify a little bit, was can botox
and philler be dissolved. I know that filler can, but
I don't know about bot talks. Botox is not going
to be dissolved, but your body, you're gonna metabolize it
and it's gonna wear off in a few months. So
in the clinical trials when they did botox, they did
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like twenty units in the ground, twenty in the forehead,
twelve on each I so at sixty four units, and
they measured for most people at last three to four months.
So even let's say you get botox and you're just like,
I don't like this, like I hate it, which like
nobody ever says but nobody ever says that. But if
you don't like it, it's gonna wear off completely. Yeah,
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and like you don't have to do it again. I
just tell patients like, it's gonna be fine, so you
can't reverse it, but it'll come off, it'll wear off. Yeah.
That's one thing that I've noticed also that when I
work out more, my botox, like, um, it fades away,
you know, a lot sooner, you know, so you just
have to do it a little more often. It's it's
when I'm not like, right now, I'm not working out
as much as I used to, But when I did,
it was just like boom, like you could totally like
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I was like, damn, it's hard. It's only been two once,
you know. But it's just it's basically not necessarily like
what it's made out of sugar, but it's like metabolizes
in your body like sugar. I have friends that it
lasts anywhere from three to even five months. It just
all depends. So but I know for sure filler you
can dissolve, right, like with some type of solution or
something like that, like lips and stuff, right, yes, so
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we can use it's an enzyme called higher allonic days
or highlan X, and so it's it's like a clear
liquid and we can inject it and it'll break down filler.
So I can talk about like the important like safety
stuff behind filler, because because I do think there's a
lot of like I always see these on social media
where people are like You're gonna go blind with filler
or it's always gonna migrate. Yeah, because that's what I
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was gonna tell you, like a little bit more information,
because these are the two biggest misconceptions. It's the migration,
the filler migration, like is it gonna move? Is it? Yes?
Am I gonna become blind if I do filler underneath
my eye? Another one was what are the side effects,
like long term side effects? Can you clarify a little
bit on that? Yeah, so we'll go through it. So
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I tell people safety wise, you what we want to
do when we're doing fillers, or what I'm looking for
as an injector, and like any experience, like skilled injectors
should be looking for, is making sure that we're not
blocking off blood flow that can happen if we're putting
too much fillery into an area or into a blood
vessel and then blood can't like pass through. So what
it would look like is like the person wouldn't have
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the normal color on their skin. It almost looked like
pale or like gray. So that would be an indication.
If the patients having really extreme pain, that would be
an indication because they're not getting the blood flow. Or
if they're having any vision issues, that would also be
an indication of like there's something wrong. This is super rare.
I have worked in this for nine years and I've
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never had to like dissolve anybody in any emergent reason.
But I tell my patients I'm constantly looking every single
time I touch you, like I'm looking at your skin
to assess and make sure things are normal. Blood is flowing,
We're not blocking off blood flow to the eyes, to
the face. If anything ever looks weird, that's where you
want to make sure your provider has the hirollona days
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several vials on hand. I carry sixteen to twenty vials
in my office always to just be able to dissolve
the filler if I needed to in any emergent reason.
I think people make it like it's gonna happen all
the time. I'm like I've done this day in a
day out for nine years. I've worked in large group practices.
I've never seen this in my like practices with my
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my colleagues. So it can happen because it's a medical procedure,
but this is not super commonplace. Okay, have you ever
personally hit a blood vessel? Oh? I mean I hit
blood vessels every single day with like as soon as
I poked the skin. But it's not hitting the blood
vessel to like inject filler in where it's blocking blood flow.
So never in any emergent reason. But I mean I
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can put the needle in with bow Tis right now
and like hit this blood vessel and it bleeds, it bleeds,
it bruises, So it's really like seeing somebody. It's not
overdoing it. So the risky thing is like if we
put a ton of filler into one area at one
time and that's where blood can't pass through, but like
hit a blood vessel. We probably we hit blood vessels
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every single time we're poking the skin because there's so
many on the face they're like completely covered in the face. Yeah,
because the reason I was asking, and I don't know
what this is called, we'll probably be able to explain
it better for me. But I went to go get
these small little strings underneath my eye because I have
I've done the PRP, which is they remove your blood
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and then it's like your own it's your plasma or
something like that they put in your sid I've done filler,
and then I went in with her to do the strings,
and she hit something and I had a black Literally
my eye swelled up, it was swollen, and then I
had a black eye, like black eye all over. My
My eye was read. So obviously she's like, it happens.
It was great after everything went away, like I love
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the results, but like, what does she hit? She hit
like a blood vessel, so it's just like a bruise
for that. So sometimes it can be like a bigger
bruise or a small bruise. So that can depend on
how bigger needles are. If somebody comes in and they've
been on blood thin areas, if they've been drinking recently,
they're more likely to bleed in bruise. So I'm not
worried about bruises. I tell people, I'm like, you're gonna
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be bruised. Like I'm using a needle. This is gonna happen.
I'm trying to make sure we're not blocking off blood
flow like we're having normal tissue profusion. And really, like
I said, if you think about the Body's Museum. I
don't know if you've seen that, but they have like
all like you can show you, like all the vasculature,
it's everywhere, every it's our whole face is covered. You
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just want to make sure your provider knows there are
like more higher risk areas that we inject, especially when
we're injecting some of these higher risk areas like where
the blood vessels connect behind the eye, do you want
to make sure we're not you know, not overdoing it
using products that you can dissolve going slow, So making
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sure like you have these conversations with your provider. I
I think some of it is there's the fearmongering side
where people think every you know, as soon as you
get botox and feelers, you're going to go blind. And
then there's a cide where people just don't even know
that it's a possibility, like that this is a medical
procedure and they just think, oh, this is like going
to get a haircut, like it's still a medical procedure.
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So I'm like, you want to know who you're seeing,
making share their license, making sure you know where they're
getting this product, and this product is I they approved,
you know, just be safe. Yeah, I think it's just
informing yourself, asking lots of questions to you, like she said,
to your provider, and just knowing at the end of
the day, like we have veins, we have blood vessels,
we have so many things, especially in our face. But
like it's happened to me. I bruised, I got a
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black eye. I was totally fine, it went away. Its
basically a big gas bruise. And then I love the results.
Though I loved it, I was like, Okay, I'm gonna
do it again, like you sared. Honestly, I'm like, it's
totally fine, We're absolutely fine. Now have you heard anything
about like long term effects, like something that can happen
or like anything like that. I haven't, And I've had
patients that have been using it over twenty years. Some
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other countries have had it before us, and they've been
using it and they just look really great. Uh they
really specially yeah resilience. Yeah, So I haven't heard anything.
I said, I've had people have been using this over
twenty years, neither have I, like honestly, So I was
just I'm like, I'm just gonna ask just so that
anyone that's listening knows. And I'm telling you, I love
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this industry. So I'm going to be the first one
to say, go get it, go do it. Like That's why.
Like I'm like, I can look at someone and if
they asked me, I'm straight up I'm like, Okay, yeah,
I think you need this and this and that. I
feel like all I need to know I need to
go to school for all those years. But I can
be like, this is where you need it, you know,
Like I'm just I have an eye for it, and
you do like you do like makeup and stuff. Those
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are like makeup artists. They really are artists, photographers. They
really have good eyes for this. Yeah, my makeup artists
will tell me. I won't even tell him or her
I did this, and they're like, oh my god, the
contour looks better today because I started doing cheeks. I'm like, oh, yeah,
I did this, and like, oh my god, I could
totally tell they love it because it's so much easier
to contour your face to just define it. So yeah.
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I mean, even my boyfriend is a photographer, so he
sees it all, which is weird because I'm like, how
did you not ever go in yourself to do it?
But I think he was just shy, so he's like
I needed you in my life to take me. And
talking about men are there, I feel like the industry,
the aesthetic world is mainly women as far as like providers.
Is that correct? It's more female dominant. I mean I
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used to work with the male provider, but it's it's
really like female dominant, which I mean I kind of like,
I mean, I don't know. I mean my other the
guy that I used to work with, he's great, like
he's injected me. But sometimes I think like being a woman,
like we get the women problems. I don't know, like
we're trying to we're all trying to do the same
highlighter in the same place. You know, I prefer a woman.
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I don't know why, but I feel like women are
more gentle as well, and like we have the eye
and and we want to look still like feminine, you
know what I mean. Like that's just me personally, I
don't know. So do you know of any like future, Like,
what do you think of future trends. Do you think
like what will become like super popular in a couple
of years. I think botox is going There's gonna be
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one coming out that like lasts longer, so I think
that will be a thing. I just think like the
natural aesthetic will continue to like take present, like more
and more people will be like, oh, like you can
look natural and do it and it doesn't have to
be the super overdone, super dramatic thing where you change
your face. I think that is just going to keep
being highlighted. It's like more people you me, like we're
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talking about what we've done and people can say, oh wow,
they look normal. I think that's gonna help. Yeah, for sure.
I am so glad we had this conversation. Thank you
so much for coming onto the podcast and being so open.
And before you go, can you please share your social media?
Do you have a website? Like where can people find you? Definitely?
Thank you. So I'm Janelle in my Instagram and my
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TikTok are Janiel It's g I and I l L
E underscore in p that sounds for a nurse practitioner
and then Janelle Beauty Dot com is my website. So
I didn't say Ana Monica, I would love to connect
with you, guys, say you have less Manuel, So yeah,
love it. Yeah, thank you so much. There you guys,
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You guys can find her. She's beautiful. She's like you
guys heard her. She's awesome and I think that if
you are a first timer looking to get it, she
will ask you every question and answer any question that
you may have so that you feel safe. You definitely
made me feel good, so I'm sure that people that
are listening feel the same way. And before we got you, guys,
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um as always, I have a motivational Monday quote, and
the quote is I can't think of any better representation
of beauty than someone who is unafraid to be herself.
So don't be afraid. Go out and do what you want. Okay,
if you want botox, do it. If you want feel
your bigger, if you want a different note, whatever, just
what's gonna make you happy, f when everyone else thinks
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you guys, thank you for listening. I will catch you
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I feel like I look a lot younger than my
age one. My skincare too. I've been doing botox and fillers.
I say, do whatever makes you happy, and it's definitely
made me happy. Mid to late twenties, early thirties is
where a lot of people they're starting to notice the lines.
They're faintly getting edged when patients come later in their life.
Botox is not gonna make it completely gone. Now for
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so long, it's like I would always hear, especially like
in the Latin culture, No, I want a woman that's natural,
not fake. What does that even mean? What? Up? Everyone?
Felis Lunas. Welcome to Cheeks and Chill podcast. I'm your
host cheek Ease, and I'm so happy you're here with
me today. Today we're going to be talking about beauty,
(00:49):
especially about some non invasive facial procedures. So, without further ado,
let's get into it. This is chick Ease and Chill. Okay,
So let's talk about botox and fillers. This is something
that I think used to be found upon, but I
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feel like it's becoming more and more mainstream, which I
absolutely love because I love botox, I love fillers. I
love the aesthetic world. I love the beauty industry. I
started getting botox when I was twenty four. I feel
like perhaps I didn't need it as much then, but
I got it because I wanted to. Because my business partner, Judy,
who is my business partner and befall a skin She
(01:31):
has her own aesthetic spaw in Corona, and I would
go see her for facials and things like that, and
she's the one that suggested. She's like, you should start
getting bow talks to prevent and I'm so glad she
did because I feel like I look a lot younger
than my age. One my skincare and two I've been
doing bow talks and fillers for a while, actually bot
talks first, and then I started getting fillers just a
(01:52):
couple of years ago. But yeah, I love it, and
I say, heck yes, do whatever makes you happy, and
it's definitely to me very happy. So now that I've
shared a little bit about my experience with this stuff,
I want to welcome our guest, Janille Brown. She's an
aesthetic nurse practitioner based in Santa Monica. She's been in
the industry since so I'm so happy she's here. Welcome Janielle,
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how are you good? Thank you so much for having me.
Of course I went like on a whole like thing
about like I started at twenty four. I mean, maybe
I didn't need it, but I feel like it's important
to prevent. And also if you're like a little older
and you have like superficial like you know, lines and
stuff like that, like I'm so fort filler by the way,
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you guys, I wish you guys could see this woman.
She's so beautiful. Oh my gosh, you are very pretty.
I'm like looking at you, I'm like, look at you.
Start at you look amazing. Oh, thank you so much. Yeah,
it's because you know, now, I think people are more
open about it. But yeah, a lot of people have questions.
A lot of people, especially like in the Latin culture.
I feel like they are afraid. I mean maybe yes,
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because they're like, okay, how much is it going to be?
First of all, and then also because they've heard different things.
So I just I'm glad that you're here so we
can talk about all that stuff. Yes, we can talk
about all of it anything, Okay, awesome. So first of all,
tell us a little bit about how you got into
the beauty industry because you did start off as a nurse. Correct. Yes,
so I'm a nurse practitioner and I was just offered
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a job in a medspall. I was interviewing for an
e er emergency room and the girl that I met said, Hey,
you should come to my medspall. You can inject botox
and fillers. I did not know what that was at all.
I was either and we had just moved to l A.
And I was like, I don't even know what that is,
Like I can't help you, Like I've never learned about that.
I thought it was just really people on TV and
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like super fancy. She's like, just come check it out.
She's like, people would love this opportunity. Um, just see
what it's about. So I had this like preconceived thought,
and I went to the clinic. It was just like
regular your women. And then I was like hearing their
stories all throughout the day about why they get stuff,
how they feel more beautiful, how they just look normal,
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like they wouldn't looked like you know, some people think
it's gonna be plastic or you're gonna look fake, and
I didn't experience that at all. So I was like, Oh,
this is pretty neat and people are happy to be here.
And so yeah, I took the job. I learned, they
taught me a lot, and then I, you know, I've
been doing this now for nine years. I just continued
to like learn as I'm going through it. Yeah, it's
because the beauty industry is just I feel like, so fulfilling,
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Like it just makes you happy, like to make other
people happy, you know what I mean. Like I don't know,
like it's very different, but I had like a blow
dry bar it's called blow Me Dry, and I did
makeup and blow drys and all kinds of stuff. It
was just beautifying yourself. And it's just the people, like
women even men would walk in there and get their
haircuts and their hair blow dried and their makeup done,
and it's just like they walked in one person and
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walked out another person. And I feel like, this is
why I love the beauty industry so much. I love
the aesthetic world. So it's because of that, because you
just feel more confident you just and then let's be honest.
In the society that we live in, there's so much
pressure subconsciously or consciously on social media, where like I
should look like that blah blah blah. So when you
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do a little something for yourself like that, you just
feel like, Okay, my smile change is a little bit,
you know. Yeah, for sure, my patients tell me they
just feel refreshed, They feel rested. They don't have to
like put as much makeup, Like they're like, I can
get ready quicker. Just little things like people don't know
what I did, but they're like, you look good. Yeah,
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that's the word refreshed. Have you gotten any botox yourself
for like um fillers and stuff. I've done my whole
face and every time I like post about what I've
done on social media like TikTok and things like, people
just want to see more. Yeah, those ones go viral.
I think probably the biggest thing is like my underwrite
filler's I've done. I've done everything I've done, eyes, cheeks, temples, chin.
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I just started my weeks because again, you guys, I
am maturing. I started doing my cheeks like right like
by the eye area, and it just lifts everything up.
I don't know what it's called exactly, but like the
needle goes straight in. I feel like it doesn't hurt
that bad to be honest, I feel like I don't know,
but I've done that. I just started doing that and
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then now I'm doing I grind my teeth so they're
doing this. What is this called? So we do masters
to relax the muscles so it helps with clinching and headaches.
Grinding jall pain. Yeah, I started doing that and if
I feel like it's kind of thinned out my face
a little bit more. So we started with that. But anyways,
you look great. You look amazing, by the way, So like,
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I love the under I need to do more under
eye you guys, because I'm getting like the dark start. Yeah,
do you inject yourself? I'm sure you don't write you
have someone else that injects you, right, I mean, I've
had my colleagues do it. But sometimes I'm just like,
let me do what I need to do. Okay, See,
I think I would be like you. I'd be like,
you know what, I know what I'm doing, I know
what I want. I could do it myself. I know
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people are like that's a dangerous. I mean, I know
what I like, he said, I know what I'm trying
to do. I just sit there and I can be
focused and yeah, nice okay. So when you're seeing your clients,
is there like a certain approach that you take, Like
do you let your clients just tell you, hey, I
don't like this or whatnot? Or do you suggest stuff?
I do both. So for me, it's always a conversation
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with my patients. I've been seeing some of the same
people for the past nine years, and I tell them
every time you come in the chair, we're going to
talk about what you're seeing. That's really going to help
guide me. Because if somebody comes in and there's this
little line that's like such a big deal to them,
I want to make sure we can address that and
not just like into them. If that's like they're big thing,
I want to make sure we can focus on it.
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But what I am thinking about when I look at
somebody's face is like I'm also considering what's beneath the kid.
So you might say, like something's going on with my cheeks.
I'm thinking about the muscles, the fat pads, the bone,
how things are changing with aging, with weight law, and
so a lot of it is conversing with the patients,
making sure they can understand what I'm doing, why I'm
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trying to do it. But really understanding the aging process.
So talking to them about where we lose volume. You know,
people will start noticing lines just with aging or weight
loss from like their under eyes like kind of split
into their chief and then the smile lines so like
from the nose kind of curves down and then from
the corners of their mouth kind of down. I know,
it's like little details. And so I'll talk with them
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and I always say, look, the stuff I'm presenting is
not to ever be mean. I'm not trying to hurt
people's feelings. I'm like, if you're open to it, here
I can tell you what I see from you know,
the medical side, and how we can approach that. And
there's gonna be some things that there's just limitations. We
won't be able to do with botox and fillers like
non surgically. But here's how we can achieve X, Y
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and Z if we can achieve what they're going for. Yeah,
so I think that's super important, just to be completely
like transparent. I mean, would you ever say to someone like, no,
I don't see that's a good idea, or do you
just do what they what they asked for? Oh? No,
we definitely have a conversation. If there's something that we
don't see eye to eye, I tell the patients like,
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let's table this today. I want us to both be
on the same page if we're doing something and there's
gonna be sometimes like if we just you know, if
I'm just like, I really don't think that's going to
serve you. Here's why we have those conversations, Like I'm
not gonna be just like do any and everything. I
want people to feel beautiful. And most people that come
to me, they kind of know my aesthetic already, so
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I don't get super over the top like crazy request.
A lot of people that find me, they see my
work and they're like, oh, people look like themselves, like
I said, they refresh the right, Like that's what I'm
going for, Like I want to look like me maybe
five years ago, where like I wasn't noticing these shadows
or now my concealer is not covering what it used to.
So most people that find me are like, they already
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like my aesthetic. Okay, your style of doing things right
where it's like I want to look natural, like I
want to look like you said myself, you know, because
I don't know a lot of people might not know this, okay,
but I'm thirty seven, so I started when I was
twenty four. A lot of people come up to me,
especially when I have no makeup on, and they're like,
oh my gosh, you look like you're twenty eight. And
I honestly think it's one because I do my best
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to take care of myself, especially with like my skincare
and botox and fillers have been a big thing. I
feel like it's better to start personally earlier on so
that you keep that refreshed look. So when people start
doing it when they need it, it's more noticeable and
it's kind of, oh, ship, what did that person do?
It depends each style, Like if that's like your thing
and you want to look a certain way, then that's
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what it is, you know what I mean. But for me,
it's like I've always thought of preventing. How can I prevent?
I just started also getting botox here in my neck,
you guys. That has been freaking amazing, okay, because I
was like, something's going out with my neck. I'm starting
to notice a little something. Yes, And they put like
a bunch of them here, like like kind of like
a course set that she created with botox, which that's
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one thing that I was like, dude, it made a
huge difference. And then I started getting like the upside
down smile. And when you were talking about like the
corner of your mouth, now, I'm start starting to come back.
You need to go see any time we could do it.
I know. It's just like these little things I treat patients.
I treat everybody, but a lot of my people come
like mid twenties to like late forties, and that's when
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they're just like something is going on. Most people are
kind of like I'm I'm almost thirty five, so kind
of around our age, you're just like, what's going on?
Like some things are changing, and they're like I woke
up like this. I didn't have these lives. They probably
didn't wake up like this, but all of a sudden
they see it, and like once you see it, it's
kind of hard to unsee it. And that's what prompted
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me to get stuff too. I have two kids, and
after my first one at breastfed for so long, I like,
you know, I gained weight and I lost a bunch
of weight from feeding the baby, and like I just
look gaunt. I was like, this is not what I'm
used to seeing. And so that's where I was like,
what can I do to like make me look like myself?
And I will tell you people didn't even know. Like
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people always think like I can tell every person that
does lip filler. I can tell anybody that gets botox.
They don't know, like nobody knew. That's like nobody. But
my best friend for like high school, he's like, what
do you mean you He's like, I didn't I knew
you did it to people, Like I didn't know you
were putting it in your face, Like how do you
think I keep showing up looking to say yeah? I
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think it also has a lot to do with your
style or how how you do it. You know, you
don't overdo it. You know there are people out there
that want to look done up or really change the
structure of your face. And that's totally all right. I'm
just that type of person. It's like I want to
just like where I've lost volume, mom, I'm aging, and
I want to age gracefully, you know, quote unquote gracefully.
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But I mean, I do you know, that's just my
thing I'm all about. Dude, do your plastic surgery, do
whatever the heck you want to do. But you know
what I really like about you. It sounds like you
really care about your patients and making them the best
versus how much money you can make. You know what
I mean, because if not, you say yes to everything
and be like, yeah, that's what you want whatever. But
I think it's all about longevity. It's like, I want
to be in this industry for a long time, and
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it's literally your name behind all these faces. I love
that I can already tell that about you. So I
I that's like I said, I've been treating some of
the same people for the past nine years, and then
I treat their mom, and then their daughter, and then
their sister and then their best friend. So I treat
like families, and then my patients kind of become like
a part of my family. It's really nice because I
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tell my patients like before they even come into clinic,
I already pre consult with every person, like on zoom.
I want to know like kind of what's driving them,
what are they seeing? Like tell me about your what
do you do for work? Because I'm going to treat
like a person that gets their money from like being
on only fans different than somebody that's like, I'm a
school teacher, Like I need to know what drives them,
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what are they seeing, what are they trying to go for?
Like the more I know about them, the better I
can serve them. So I'm like, I have to talk
with you and know what's going on. And I probably
talked too much to them and I asked too many
questions and I explained stuff way too much. But I'm like,
I'm putting a needle in your face, like this is
not a random thought, this is not a random product,
and like what I do on you could be completely
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different than your twin sister. I love that you asked
about like their career what they do on a daily basis,
because it's like you wanted to be fitting to what
they do and it's not like a, I think that's
amazing that you ask so many questions. I think that
that wow. I mean, I mean it's crazy because usually
like people do consultations, but they're fairly just quick and
straight to the point. But if you're like really like, hey,
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you're a teacher, and you you want to just look refreshed,
you know what I mean, Like, it does change because
even if you're on television, like I come out on television,
and that's where I started noticing my next situation where
I was like, I started seeing myself. I was like,
oh wait, like I turned a certain way, and I'm like,
I'm not liking that, you know what I mean? And
I don't know. So it's been really helping me. I
just I don't know, I want more, Okay, I'm just
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I'm obsessed with this stuff, guys. Whatever, I don't care
what anyone thinks. I just feel like it is a
part of an investing in yourself for you to feel better.
And what I do you know on TV? Like I
need to feel good Okay, so you're gonna judge me
or whatever. What are some like popular procedures, like what
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what do people come in for? Most? So I really
I'm like facial injectables. Um, A lot of people come
to me for under eyes, under eyes, nose, jaw lines,
and then everybody like lips. I do that day and
day out. T MJ botox, which you kind of mentioned
earlier for the jaw pain, and then cosmetic botox. I mean,
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this is what I do all day Okay. So one
thing I just recently learned as well Botox is basically
the name brand. Correct, Like there's like I started doing
Disport and Botox. Do you prefer one versus the other.
It's the same thing, it's just different brands. Correct. Yeah,
we have four in the United States that are currently
FDA approved. So we have Botox, this Zmin, Javo. I
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offer Botox, Disport Zmin. I've used VOW. I love it too.
I tell patients if you have like everybody knows Botox
because they make commercials and stuff. They don't usually know
the other brands. I tell patients try one, see if
you have a preference. A lot of people can't tell
a difference. They're all FDA approved for three to four months.
Some people can. I mean I can say I like
Disport like, but I like them all. Uh. Yeah, I've
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tried Botox and I've tried Disport and now that's what
I'm using now, and I really I really like it.
I feel like it kicks in a little faster and
it lasts a little longer for me. A lot of
people say that, Yeah, I've really liked it, and it
are like lip fill are still super popular or people
still coming in a lot for that. Yeah, and the jawline.
Like I feel like just the last two years have
just got it's gone like freaking bananas. I think people
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are seeing themselves on camera more, and like when you
were saying the part about you seeing yourself on in
front of the camera, that is what helped me, like
to become a better injector. It's l a. So everybody's
on camera and gorgeous people like will come to me
and like I I see this line. I'm like, I
don't see a line what you're talking about. But when
they show me their film or their photos and they're like,
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I keep getting edited out or look from this angle,
I was like, so I had to like start learning
those little details that are really impactful. But now I think,
you know, people seeing themselves on zoom or whatever social media,
if they're posting and they're starting to see like little
things and then the filter, they're like, well if I
filter my face like that, you know, they like the
little jawline thing. So a nice little defined, snatched jawline,
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you know. I tried. I went in once and I asked,
I was like, hey, what do you think about me
defining a little bit more? And what she had suggested
at the time was for me to do. I can
never pronounce it right, Guipella, Guipella, what is that called kaibella?
There you go? So she she suggested that under my
chin to get rid of that fat, and then we
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were going to like look at it later. But I mean,
I don't know. I kind of sometimes feel like I
want a little bit more. I don't know, the more
I look, like you said, on social media, you know,
you're on Snapchat or you do like whatever, like you know,
like the front camera just shows you so many different things,
or even face two now with Dawn face tune, you
go in there, you're like, oh, Dane, I don't know
I had that, and you're like smoothing everything out. So
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I think that's also I hadn't thought about that until
you said it. Where I'm like, people are noticing it more,
and that's why I think this industry is growing as
much as it is because of social media. I mean,
it's a hard it's a hard balance because I you know, again,
I get people in there that are just dropped it gorgeous,
and I'm like gosh, and they're seeing you, like well
when I filter like this, and I'm like gosh, Like
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sometimes We have those conversations where it's like maybe not like,
you're not gonna look exactly like this filter, even if
I put a ton of filler, like you're not going
to have no lines at all on your face. So
sometimes it's just like do we want to do this,
Like you know, what is the root that you're really
trying to get to. We just have those conversations to
make sure I don't know, I don't want this thing
where I'm like, it's not gonna be you. You're not
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gonna be happy with this at the end of the
day because we're trying to chase some unrealistic thing to achieve.
So and now that you mentioned that, I do have
a friend that uses this one filter I think on Instagram,
and she was using it so much that it's just
kind of it made her obviously want to really look
like that. And she went somewhere and it's so crazy
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that you said that. She went and she said, I
want to look like I look with this filter on.
Her lips were a little bit thicker, you know, fuller,
I mean, and then her jawline and they were just like,
I think it's just getting way too into people's heads.
And I think my personal thing is like I still
want to look like Jenne like cheek ease, but I
just want to look like you know. But we have
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to be realistic about it as well and listening to
people like listen to your to your esthetic nurse, you know,
and listen to them they know best. Okay, that's my
only advice. Um Men, men are also doing it a
lot more. I've noticed that they're getting a little bit
more comfortable. They're going in for sure for their chins,
They're going in for their jawline botox. Now, eyes are
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getting a little bit more comfortable. Are you seeing more men? Now?
Oh I had a men's both box party last week.
I see and oh yeah, yeah, Like it's really cool
when they like let me share their stories that put
up videos and a lot of them are very comfortable
and they're just like, yeah, I do this for me,
Like I don't like these lines and they're getting deep,
or my dad has these lines and I don't want
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to look like I'm so angry. I don't have to
look frozen and plastic. But the guys want to look
good too. And I mean I see young, I see old,
I see black, white, I see everybody I thought I
was going to ask you, is it more Latino, more
white black guys? Like I see everybody like I I mean,
And I've had guys that come in and I'm like
treating them and then they're like, oh, I need to
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refer my wife. I'm like, okay, Like it usually is
like the life refers has been. But I've seen it
both ways, and they look like them saying refresh. You
wouldn't know they did something, but they just look good.
I can even see, like the COMFID it's increasing each
time I see them, and like from there before photos
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to their after photos kind of like the little gloomer
in their eyes. Like yep, guys want to look like
they they like the masculine job they like, you know,
their nose they like, and they like botox and TMJ.
I do that a lot too. Nice. See, I'm not
mad at that. I think that that a guy. I
love a guy that gets a pedicure and the manicure
and wants to go and like get his you know,
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his little frown lines done or his crowsfeet, you know
what I mean. Like I got my boyfriend to do
it for the first time. I took him to go
get his He wanted like his chin a little bit
like more defined and stuff, and he absolutely loved it.
He's like, what the heck, why didn't I know about
this before? You know? So I think, I think it's awesome.
Does your husband do it? Does he go to you?
Or no? He so for years he's like, like, dumb
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do stuff And I was like, you can do X
y Z. He's like no, and then he started. I
get like a lot of skincare from the companies and stuff,
and sometimes I just can't use it all. But he
kept like walking around with eye patches and I was like,
why do you keep wearing those? And he's like, we're
not using them. So I was like, do you just
want like some filler under your eyes? He's like, if
you need a before and after for your page, like
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I do it. So we did like everything. We didn't
photos with his eyes with his chin, and he's like,
I don't see difference. I'm like, you don't see difference,
But everybody at his work was like, what do you
guys do He looks good? Like his face definitely looks brighter,
and yeah, they stopped wearing the eye patches. Thank goodness.
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That guys are getting more comfortable with it because for
so long, it's like, you know, I would always hear,
especially like in the Latin culture, it's kind of like, no,
I want a woman that's natural or not not fake
quote unquote, like what does that even mean? First of all,
like not fake naturally, like shut up, you're not even
gonna notice first of all. And now I'm like, thank goodness,
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they're more open to it, and it's just like, dude,
it's my face. I want to look pretty for myself
and for you, you you know, but like what's your take
on that? Like someone that would come in and be like, well,
you know, I don't want to look quote unquote fake.
Everybody says it every day, but I think when they
have them really like look at my my stuff beforehand,
I want them to understand like what I'm doing, my approach,
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my pictures, and so then they already know, like they're like, oh, well,
all your people look like themselves, they look fresh. So
they always say it like I just want to look
like myself. I want to look natural. I don't want
to look fake. But they're like, I'm coming to you
because I see your work. I like your aesthetic, and
that's what I'm going for, And I'm not saying like
I'm the end all be all, like I'm the beauty master,
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because other people may want something that's even less dramatic
than I do, or more dramatic, and they're going to
find like their injector that serves them. So it's really
about like doing that research, having those conversations, finding somebody's
aesthetic style that you like, and then you feel like
you can trust you can ask questions. Yeah, my only
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thing to those of you that are listening that maybe
have not gotten botox or fillers because of what other
people would think or you're afraid. Honestly, it's it's really,
at the end of the day, your complete choice. Like
I don't think anyone should have a say in it. Besides, like,
if you want to look a certain way and if
you don't want to ever do it, don't do it.
That's totally fine, you know, but don't let anyone else
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come in and tell you not to. Like I've been
doing it for X amount of years and it's been
great and I love it, and I think that I'm
always gonna work towards that, and I always put some
money just to the side for it because it's something
that makes me happy and I like to invest in myself.
But that was just a little something I wanted to
also share because it's great to be natural and not
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get anything done. That's awesome. That's that's amazing, and it's
also great if you want to just do whatever you
want to do yourself. You know, no one should judge personally,
that's just I don't know. Sometimes it just irritates me
because it's like, oh, no, you're not natural. Oh my goodness.
I'm just like, whatever, give him the finger. So what
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is like, in your opinion, a good age to start
getting botox or fillers. I I tell people that's totally
up to you. But I will say, like usually mid
to late twenties, early thirties is where a lot of
people come. They're starting to notice like the lines are
faintly getting etched, and they usually are getting annoyed by that.
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When patients come later in their life and like late forties,
mid forties, and if they you know, haven't taken care
of their skin, if they have really deep lines, they
get disappointed when I tell them, look, these lines are etched,
Like botox is not gonna make it completely gone. Now
like they're they've been set in on the skin now,
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so then they're kind of like, well what can I do?
How do I get rid of them? And then well
we can't, like they're there so preventative. Like I used
to think it was a big hoax when I first started,
but it works, like you know, if the muscles are
not actively making those strong lines, they're never going to
get set in. And that's one of the reasons that
I actually started botox was because I was afraid. My
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whole family has this. It's hereditary. It's um the line
right here, what is it called the levin or whatnot
on your eyebrows. Yes, so my grandpa has it, my
uncle's have it, my my mom. My mom started doing
botox a little later in her life, but she she
didn't get it because she started getting like fillers and stuff,
so she did it right on time before like stuck.
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So that was in my head all the time, and
I was like, I don't want that line. Even some
of my cousins have it, you know, And that's one
of the reasons I was like, I'm going to start
this now because and then the under the bags as well,
So that's why I started doing under I have my
sister Jackie on it, like I sent her down to
my business partner. I sent her to her and I
was like, you need to go. And I think I
gave her a gift card for Christmas because she's a
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mom before she's married, so she's always just the kids
and this. And then I'm like, girl, you needed to
care yourself. You need to care yourself for yourself and
for your husband. So she started getting She did this
thing on her underwege and it looks great because we
all like, you have to know, look at your family,
look at the elders and your family, and be like, Okay,
that's probably where I'm heading. If I want to prevent
that stuff, maybe I should start. Now. That's my personal opinion.
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I agree, and I mean, you know, if people don't
want to get it. Some people are just like I
don't want to do that or whatever. It's a finances thing,
like at the basic, at the very least, I'm like,
worse on block use a retinoid, Like yes, you like
the skin stuff, because that's also going to take you long.
Like skincare, you guys, is huge. I have my own
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skincare line and I've been doing since I was sixteen.
I was just so into like all the seventeen magazines
and all that stuff, and I just love skincare and
I'm so glad that I did because I'm huge on SPF.
Like I'm I'm one to say, where every single day,
even if it's cloudy outside, even if it's winter, it
does not matter. You will save yourself a ton of
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trouble in the future. Again, preventing, I'm all about preventative.
One thing that a lot of people ask and I
wanted you to clarify a little bit, was can botox
and philler be dissolved. I know that filler can, but
I don't know about bot talks. Botox is not going
to be dissolved, but your body, you're gonna metabolize it
and it's gonna wear off in a few months. So
in the clinical trials when they did botox, they did
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like twenty units in the ground, twenty in the forehead,
twelve on each I so at sixty four units, and
they measured for most people at last three to four months.
So even let's say you get botox and you're just like,
I don't like this, like I hate it, which like
nobody ever says but nobody ever says that. But if
you don't like it, it's gonna wear off completely. Yeah,
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and like you don't have to do it again. I
just tell patients like, it's gonna be fine, so you
can't reverse it, but it'll come off, it'll wear off. Yeah.
That's one thing that I've noticed also that when I
work out more, my botox, like, um, it fades away,
you know, a lot sooner, you know, so you just
have to do it a little more often. It's it's
when I'm not like, right now, I'm not working out
as much as I used to, But when I did,
it was just like boom, like you could totally like
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I was like, damn, it's hard. It's only been two once,
you know. But it's just it's basically not necessarily like
what it's made out of sugar, but it's like metabolizes
in your body like sugar. I have friends that it
lasts anywhere from three to even five months. It just
all depends. So but I know for sure filler you
can dissolve, right, like with some type of solution or
something like that, like lips and stuff, right, yes, so
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we can use it's an enzyme called higher allonic days
or highlan X, and so it's it's like a clear
liquid and we can inject it and it'll break down filler.
So I can talk about like the important like safety
stuff behind filler, because because I do think there's a
lot of like I always see these on social media
where people are like You're gonna go blind with filler
or it's always gonna migrate. Yeah, because that's what I
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was gonna tell you, like a little bit more information,
because these are the two biggest misconceptions. It's the migration,
the filler migration, like is it gonna move? Is it? Yes?
Am I gonna become blind if I do filler underneath
my eye? Another one was what are the side effects,
like long term side effects? Can you clarify a little
bit on that? Yeah, so we'll go through it. So
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I tell people safety wise, you what we want to
do when we're doing fillers, or what I'm looking for
as an injector, and like any experience, like skilled injectors
should be looking for, is making sure that we're not
blocking off blood flow that can happen if we're putting
too much fillery into an area or into a blood
vessel and then blood can't like pass through. So what
it would look like is like the person wouldn't have
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the normal color on their skin. It almost looked like
pale or like gray. So that would be an indication.
If the patients having really extreme pain, that would be
an indication because they're not getting the blood flow. Or
if they're having any vision issues, that would also be
an indication of like there's something wrong. This is super rare.
I have worked in this for nine years and I've
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never had to like dissolve anybody in any emergent reason.
But I tell my patients I'm constantly looking every single
time I touch you, like I'm looking at your skin
to assess and make sure things are normal. Blood is flowing,
We're not blocking off blood flow to the eyes, to
the face. If anything ever looks weird, that's where you
want to make sure your provider has the hirollona days
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several vials on hand. I carry sixteen to twenty vials
in my office always to just be able to dissolve
the filler if I needed to in any emergent reason.
I think people make it like it's gonna happen all
the time. I'm like I've done this day in a
day out for nine years. I've worked in large group practices.
I've never seen this in my like practices with my
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my colleagues. So it can happen because it's a medical procedure,
but this is not super commonplace. Okay, have you ever
personally hit a blood vessel? Oh? I mean I hit
blood vessels every single day with like as soon as
I poked the skin. But it's not hitting the blood
vessel to like inject filler in where it's blocking blood flow.
So never in any emergent reason. But I mean I
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can put the needle in with bow Tis right now
and like hit this blood vessel and it bleeds, it bleeds,
it bruises, So it's really like seeing somebody. It's not
overdoing it. So the risky thing is like if we
put a ton of filler into one area at one
time and that's where blood can't pass through, but like
hit a blood vessel. We probably we hit blood vessels
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every single time we're poking the skin because there's so
many on the face they're like completely covered in the face. Yeah,
because the reason I was asking, and I don't know
what this is called, we'll probably be able to explain
it better for me. But I went to go get
these small little strings underneath my eye because I have
I've done the PRP, which is they remove your blood
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and then it's like your own it's your plasma or
something like that they put in your sid I've done filler,
and then I went in with her to do the strings,
and she hit something and I had a black Literally
my eye swelled up, it was swollen, and then I
had a black eye, like black eye all over. My
My eye was read. So obviously she's like, it happens.
It was great after everything went away, like I love
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the results, but like, what does she hit? She hit
like a blood vessel, so it's just like a bruise
for that. So sometimes it can be like a bigger
bruise or a small bruise. So that can depend on
how bigger needles are. If somebody comes in and they've
been on blood thin areas, if they've been drinking recently,
they're more likely to bleed in bruise. So I'm not
worried about bruises. I tell people, I'm like, you're gonna
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be bruised. Like I'm using a needle. This is gonna happen.
I'm trying to make sure we're not blocking off blood
flow like we're having normal tissue profusion. And really, like
I said, if you think about the Body's Museum. I
don't know if you've seen that, but they have like
all like you can show you, like all the vasculature,
it's everywhere, every it's our whole face is covered. You
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just want to make sure your provider knows there are
like more higher risk areas that we inject, especially when
we're injecting some of these higher risk areas like where
the blood vessels connect behind the eye, do you want
to make sure we're not you know, not overdoing it
using products that you can dissolve going slow, So making
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sure like you have these conversations with your provider. I
I think some of it is there's the fearmongering side
where people think every you know, as soon as you
get botox and feelers, you're going to go blind. And
then there's a cide where people just don't even know
that it's a possibility, like that this is a medical
procedure and they just think, oh, this is like going
to get a haircut, like it's still a medical procedure.
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So I'm like, you want to know who you're seeing,
making share their license, making sure you know where they're
getting this product, and this product is I they approved,
you know, just be safe. Yeah, I think it's just
informing yourself, asking lots of questions to you, like she said,
to your provider, and just knowing at the end of
the day, like we have veins, we have blood vessels,
we have so many things, especially in our face. But
like it's happened to me. I bruised, I got a
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black eye. I was totally fine, it went away. Its
basically a big gas bruise. And then I love the results.
Though I loved it, I was like, Okay, I'm gonna
do it again, like you sared. Honestly, I'm like, it's
totally fine, We're absolutely fine. Now have you heard anything
about like long term effects, like something that can happen
or like anything like that. I haven't, And I've had
patients that have been using it over twenty years. Some
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other countries have had it before us, and they've been
using it and they just look really great. Uh they
really specially yeah resilience. Yeah, So I haven't heard anything.
I said, I've had people have been using this over
twenty years, neither have I, like honestly, So I was
just I'm like, I'm just gonna ask just so that
anyone that's listening knows. And I'm telling you, I love
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this industry. So I'm going to be the first one
to say, go get it, go do it. Like That's why.
Like I'm like, I can look at someone and if
they asked me, I'm straight up I'm like, Okay, yeah,
I think you need this and this and that. I
feel like all I need to know I need to
go to school for all those years. But I can
be like, this is where you need it, you know,
Like I'm just I have an eye for it, and
you do like you do like makeup and stuff. Those
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are like makeup artists. They really are artists, photographers. They
really have good eyes for this. Yeah, my makeup artists
will tell me. I won't even tell him or her
I did this, and they're like, oh my god, the
contour looks better today because I started doing cheeks. I'm like, oh, yeah,
I did this, and like, oh my god, I could
totally tell they love it because it's so much easier
to contour your face to just define it. So yeah.
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I mean, even my boyfriend is a photographer, so he
sees it all, which is weird because I'm like, how
did you not ever go in yourself to do it?
But I think he was just shy, so he's like
I needed you in my life to take me. And
talking about men are there, I feel like the industry,
the aesthetic world is mainly women as far as like providers.
Is that correct? It's more female dominant. I mean I
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used to work with the male provider, but it's it's
really like female dominant, which I mean I kind of like,
I mean, I don't know. I mean my other the
guy that I used to work with, he's great, like
he's injected me. But sometimes I think like being a woman,
like we get the women problems. I don't know, like
we're trying to we're all trying to do the same
highlighter in the same place. You know, I prefer a woman.
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I don't know why, but I feel like women are
more gentle as well, and like we have the eye
and and we want to look still like feminine, you
know what I mean. Like that's just me personally, I
don't know. So do you know of any like future, Like,
what do you think of future trends. Do you think
like what will become like super popular in a couple
of years. I think botox is going There's gonna be
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one coming out that like lasts longer, so I think
that will be a thing. I just think like the
natural aesthetic will continue to like take present, like more
and more people will be like, oh, like you can
look natural and do it and it doesn't have to
be the super overdone, super dramatic thing where you change
your face. I think that is just going to keep
being highlighted. It's like more people you me, like we're
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talking about what we've done and people can say, oh wow,
they look normal. I think that's gonna help. Yeah, for sure.
I am so glad we had this conversation. Thank you
so much for coming onto the podcast and being so open.
And before you go, can you please share your social media?
Do you have a website? Like where can people find you? Definitely?
Thank you. So I'm Janelle in my Instagram and my
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TikTok are Janiel It's g I and I l L
E underscore in p that sounds for a nurse practitioner
and then Janelle Beauty Dot com is my website. So
I didn't say Ana Monica, I would love to connect
with you, guys, say you have less Manuel, So yeah,
love it. Yeah, thank you so much. There you guys,
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You guys can find her. She's beautiful. She's like you
guys heard her. She's awesome and I think that if
you are a first timer looking to get it, she
will ask you every question and answer any question that
you may have so that you feel safe. You definitely
made me feel good, so I'm sure that people that
are listening feel the same way. And before we got you, guys,
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um as always, I have a motivational Monday quote, and
the quote is I can't think of any better representation
of beauty than someone who is unafraid to be herself.
So don't be afraid. Go out and do what you want. Okay,
if you want botox, do it. If you want feel
your bigger, if you want a different note, whatever, just
what's gonna make you happy, f when everyone else thinks
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that's just my personal opinion. Janelle, Thank you so much,
you guys, thank you for listening. I will catch you
guys next Monday. Catch me next Monday. I love you guys.
Blow them kisses, Janille, bye, and guys. I want to
let you know there's a brand new way for us
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