May 3, 2024 • 37 mins
This week, Rachel Zoe talks about her time at the Fashion LA Awards. Listen as Rachel share insights into the importance of events like the Fashion LA Awards in shaping the fashion landscape and fostering collaboration within the industry. Plus, she shares some of her favorite looks from the night and which celebs she loved speaking with.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing
in Heels for your weekly dose of glamour, inspiration and
of course fun. This week, I attended the Daily front
Row Fashion Los Angeles Awards. It was the most beautiful
evening honoring some of the best and brightest talent in
the fashion industry. So I wanted to give you a
(00:27):
little sneak peek inside of the event. There were some
incredible looks and some of your favorite celebs were in attendance.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
So let's get right into it.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hello, Rachel zo, Hello, how has your week been.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm very sleepy. I need to do I need to interview.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
A sleep specialist. I yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'm just not going to do it. That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'm going to get all the advice in the world.
I know all the things you're not supposed to be
on your phone. She is a shutdown any electronic for
at least an hour before a bat even two hours.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
And there's like ritual.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I mean, the only thing I do that tracks is
I drink him and meal tea before bed. Yeah, but
I saw the only good habit Casey this morning was like,
you sound a little better today, did you sleep. I'm
like one thirty. She's like on a Tuesday cool. I
was like yeah, but the two nights before it was
three thirty. I think until May thirteenth. I'm just this
is my this is my jam. I'm just going to
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take what I can get.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I would have like bloodshot. I speaking of like sounding,
I don't look very good. My like allergy sinuses are
like fully mid fully rearing.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Their head, babe. I mean my kids have been sneezing
my throat. I'm yeah, I didn't even.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Go to Coachella or stagecoach.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I feel like I've been in the desert.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
No, I know. I think everything La finally stopped raining
every other day, and I think super thing went into
bloom super bloom. Yeah, not into it and us allergy suffering.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I'm into it because it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, unless my roses are crashing right now and Roger's
throat is okay.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
A few things that are going on before we jump
into talking about the daily front Row Fashion Los Angeles Worse,
which you attended on Sunday with you. Yes, You're a
day you brought me as your plus one, which was
so exciting. Something's happening in the fashion world.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Did you, by chance see.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
The Ralph Lauren Fall Holiday.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I honestly did not see all of it. I did
see Christy Turlington, yes, walking, I was gonna say, your
buddy opened.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
She's so magical looking.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Gorgeous to a billy Joel saw. Yes, it's all the
elements that would make a Rachel Zoe favorite fashion show.
But the clothes looked incredible. I mean again, it's Ralph Laurence,
so iconic, so true to the aesthetic of the brand.
I think he walked out with Ricky at the end,
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always gave a little way. It's just very endearing to
see a legendary designer still like at the top of
their game.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, truly at the top.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
It's I have to say, it's pretty incredible because I
have to say, like I would argue that being a
fashion designers up there in the top five most difficult
professions one could ever choose.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
And it is not for the faint of heart, It
is not. It is so difficult.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It used to be somewhat formulaic. There was there was
a there was a way that you knew how to
win at the game. And now none of those rules
apply anymore. None and right.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Whenshion calendar as a business is all all over the
place now and.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
No one stays on calendar.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Like when I started, there was pretty much nobody that
would show off a calendar because because it was dictated
it was it was solely dependent on when the buyers
and the fashion editors and stylists were coming in for
the shows, and that it was predicated solely on that.
And now because of the Internet, it literally doesn't matter
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when anyone shows, and deliveries take obviously much shorter people
do drops, like the method in which you even.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Deliver clothes to the stores is different.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
So yes, to not tangent, the entire fashion calendar has
kind of gone, you know, out the window for the
most part. Sure, Mark Jacobs does not show during fashion week, right,
he shows like two weeks before or a week before.
But honestly the show is quintessential Ralph Lauren, so it
is true to his American I mean, I think he's
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the definition of American luxury. And I think, you know,
he always does some beating, a little sparkle at the end,
always like gorgeous like hammered satin flip dresses with like
beautiful Kashmer sweaters, and cowboy hats and you know, and always.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Like the silk skirt with like the like yummy cashmere.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
It's so beautiful. It never gets old, does doesn't It
doesn't get old.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
It's so gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And I think, you know, truthfully, when you think of
American luxury, it's like it's this, it is, and it's
really just like I think of all the Ralph Lauren
shows that I've attended in my life, and truthfully, like
if I had to reimagine, it would probably look like
the one he showed in New York yesterday. Yeah, you know,
there's a little bit of like suede bomber jackets and suiting.
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And what I do love about Ralph is that for
as long as I can remember, he was showing women
in suits and tuxedos. Yeah, on the runway, not just commercially.
And I love that because I think for him, he
just really celebrates women and knows like women are powerful
and they should show their power and when they're in
a room, they.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Too should be in a suit.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
And you know, I think Diane Keaton like almost exclusively
worse Ralph Lauren. I mean, yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I mean I think like her character Annie Hall is
like so iconic and so her yes, Like it's almost
like you can't differentiate between the two. But yeah, I
think the suiting is always beautiful. His use of Denome
in an elevated way is like the most iconic you know.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And don't be wrong, don't don't get me wrong, it's
it spent.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yep dollar signs. But then at the end of the show,
he came out with his wife Fricky and always how
long have they been married? Do you know?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Long before?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I was like a very long time, Like I'm with
my parents' age. Yeah, time that ye've been married, and
definitely up there, and she's so beautiful and she's and
like I just always picture them like they like he
walks out on stage, but I kind of always see
him like on a horse.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
To me, Ralph is on a horse, Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Like leaning on a fence next to a horse.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yes. And And the thing about Ralph Laura and I
do want to touch on this because it really does
relate very much to climbing and heels. I think I
think Ralph Lauren when I think of American luxury and
when I all my younger friends that are designers are
aspiring designers. The first thing they say when I talk
to them for the first time, I want.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Okay, who are your heroes?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Ralph Lauren, Ralph Lauren, Ralph Lauren, Ralp Lauren because Ralp
Lurin and I think probably in Italy the designers probably
say Georgie RMANI, you know, because I think that he
is the depiction of literally American luxury, but beyond American luxury,
He's the American dream. Yes, and I think like he
started as a tie salesman on a street corner in Manhattan,
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and you know, was not a trained designer, right.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
But there's a beautiful documentary about him.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Oh my god, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
It's very good, so good. If you guys are interested,
you should watch. It's just the premiere of that history.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah. History is really incredible too. It is the American dream,
which is incredible.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
In other fashion news, yes, you attended the Daily front
Row Los Angeles Fashion Awards, the eighth annual Daily front
Row Awards. And let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I want to start with by.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Your luke, what were you wearing.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I was wearing a dress by my very dear friend,
one of my loves who I've known my entire career
jam Bautista Valley, and if you have not heard of
sham Batista Valley, you must because he truly is one
of the most brilliant designers out there, yep. Who makes
the most dreamy, fantasy, magical gowns ever. He shows cature
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every season. He used to be Creve director of Bungo
and then his own label and has been doing that
for twenty years. And he's incredible. He dresses all sorts
of royalty. Yep. I'm very low bro for him, but
I wear a lot of sham Batista. Typically find myself
in Oscar de la Rena yep or Jean Batista because
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they have a sort of vintagey seventies but also feminine
book glamorous with a bit of an edge, usually metallics.
There's feathers, there's sequence, there's glamor.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
There's glamor in there's slimmer.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, there's glammer.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
It's not sleek and minimal, no and modern. No, it's
very glamorous, and there's there's a touch of something like retro.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
And why not on a Sunday get in full gold Leme?
Why not full gold Leme? Why not you look stunning beautiful.
You ran into some to some friends. Well, I were.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
There, you know it.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
The fun thing for me about going to something like
the Daily front Row is I definitely was at the
first one. I think I've been at a few of
them in between. But what's so nice is, you know,
having come up in this industry, you know, it's only.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Over the last few years that.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
The talent behind the scenes is celebrated and honored. And
I think for me to be able to watch, you know,
these sort of newer talents, I mean legendary iconic talents
like Bob Mackie, but a Deer Aberge who is one
of the very first hairstylists that I worked with with
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one of my very first celebrity clients over twenty years ago,
and we collaborated. I probably collaborated more with a Deer
than any other hairstylist in my career and we've remained
friends forever. And I think like watching him winning so
many awards, and for those of you that have not
heard of him, he literally is transformative in women's lives.
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From Nicole Kibman, Charlie's Theron, Christian Store, Marian Cotillard and
Hath the way you name it, you name it, but
the thing is, you know it's funny. Jennifer Garner was
presenting him with the award, in the way she spoke
about him was so right on, because a deer and
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I would literally when we were doing a look for
whether it was Anne Hathaway or Jen Gardner, whomever we
were working with, Karen Knightley, we literally would talk about
it for weeks and we would have tear sheets, and
we would have meetings and we would like and then
Jen would come in and be like, what are you
crazy people talking about?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I just made Piscotti like, she's like you.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
And so I think for me to have that experience
with someone who cared as much as I did was
so inspiring and fun for me, Yes, because you don't
feel alone on an island, and so to see a
deer still doing that and the way that he does
it and the way that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
He cares, it's unreal.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
What he has done for Kristen Stewart, I know, because
he can take a woman with literally almost like a
shaved head and somehow make nineteen hairstyles.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I'm very elevated. I know. He's incredible.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So it's a gift.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
It's it's nice too.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I think you calling to mind. His willingness to collaborate,
I think is something that was a standout when Jennifer
was talking about him.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
And his work.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
It's like he's very involved, as you mentioned, but also
very very collaborative with a stylist and with a makeup
artist to create a sort of uniformed story for an actor,
which is really really cool. He was amazing. Well, we
can't talk about the awards on Sunday without talking about
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Doja Cat.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, Doja Cat was really cool and her stylist did
like chic bedroom lounge weear with like a sleep eye
mask up in his hair and like silk short pjs.
It was it was a luck. And then Doja Cat
was wearing a massive, like mink coat to the floor.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I'm going to assume it was fau and what was
under it.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
No, she was wearing tight and she had like briefs
and a brawlette, right, That's what it looked like.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
So she was sort of bare.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
They did this sort of lingerie PJ vibe and luggage.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
By the way, she was carrying like a vintage She.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Literally was carrying two massive vintage suitcases. And I remember
because we were sitting like a few seats over and
I'm looking At'm like, did someone bring luggage? Like is
someone getting on a plane after the show.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
And then she went up and gave a really funny speech.
But again, like Brett Brett, I again, I thinks I
think a relationship between a stylist and an artist should
never be underestimated or underappreciated because it is so intimate. Yes,
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and he won Music Stylist, He won Music Stylist of
the Year, Brett Brett, Brett Brett. And he was so sweet.
He actually gave me a shout out up on stage.
She was a love but he was hilarious. I mean,
the whole night was really funny and endearing. I love
shows like that because it's not so uptight and serious
and structured. And I think when you do a show
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that's celebrating creative people, you can't you can't put.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Too much structure around it.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
No, you know. And they were great.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
They were a great dynamic duo.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And I have so much love and appreciation for the relationship,
a great relationship between an artist and a stylist. Totally.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It was really fun to see them. You also bumped
into Lisa Renna. Yes, Lisa Renna, you have. I don't
think you've seen Lisa in a minute, right, Well I did.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I've actually seen her quite a bit because she is
out and about with her daughter Cristantly, Emilia and Hamlin
and she you know, it's wild like I've known her
girls since they were very little.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
I mean, I think the girls came with Lisa to
one of our events before. I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
She walked in one of my shows, That's what it was. Oh,
I'm eighteen. I want to say, that's right in pre COVID,
and it's like pre COVID. I know.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Amelia Gray one Model of the Year Daily Front, so
Lisa and Harry here there.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Her speech was so cool, it was so cute. And
Katie Grand, another legend in my life and career, presented
Amilia with Model of the Year. And Katie Grand for
those of you that don't know, is iconic. She is
responsible for discovering countless talent in the fashion world. She
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is the creative force and partner who has worked alongside
Mark Jacobs for as long as I know him. She
styled every one of his shows for Mark I mean
she's a force. She has her own magazines in the UK,
she has creative directed.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I was going to say, where did she start her
career too, No, I want to.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
See she a fashion editor. I want to see British Vogue.
But it was definitely like she's really cool. Yeah, she's
like now she has like the perfect magazine. Before that,
it was like, I mean I know everything she's ever done.
I mean like, yeah, she's just she's a force.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
And basically Amelia was saying to her when she got
the award, you me, you really were the person who
made her career turn a corner correct to massive success.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Correct. And by the way, I'd like to note that.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
There are people in fashion who have that power of
really like finding talent and discovering them. It was Love Magazine,
I love Love Magazine, okay, okay, which was one of
my favorites. She shot me for it a few times.
But she is someone who takes chances. She is someone
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who part of my French but doesn't give fuck all
what people think, what people say. She doesn't get caught
up in the nonsense.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Ever.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
She was always nice to me. Yeah, best friends with
Mark Jacobs and always was his like creative partner in
his shows and they're very like minded and.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
It was cool to get to meet her.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, she's amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, she was funny.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Oh, she's so funny.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
But similar to.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Like Karen Reitfield, who was the editor of French Folkue
for many years, certain people and she had put I
believe Kim Kardashian on the cover of French Vogue and
she was the first person to put Kim in fashion.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, and say she's no joke. Yeah, you know if
I remember correctly, because it was like a huge deal, right,
you know, yep.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
And then Kim I think, was on the cover of
American Bookue with Kanye at the time. Yes, yeah, but
I'm sure, yeah, I think French Folgue did come first.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
I'm almost posit. I Karen put her on the cover first,
and everyone was like, whoa, oh.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
My gosh, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
What do I think, like the queen of fashion fashion? Yeah,
is putting pop culture.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Right on the front cover. Yeah. Well, speaking of everyone's
favorite Kardashian, Chris Jenner was there the queen and I
hate to tell our listeners, I wasn't quite close enough
to eavesdrop on your conversation. I was kind of like,
you know, standing back, googly eyed at all the other
amazing people there.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
But what did you and Chris talk about? I don't
know you were chatty.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
You know what, Chris and I have friends for so long.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah. I have always adored her. I've always loved her.
I've always respected her. She's always been funny as f Yeah,
she is such a good friend. Like to all who
are lucky enough to be in Chris's orbit, She's everything
that you dream Chris Jenner to be. And long before
she was Chris Jenner, she was this person. Yeah. And
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she's just a very kind, caring, loyal, beyond loyal. It's funny,
like she's just all the things. Yeah, and you know,
we share a very dear mutual friend, d hill Figure,
who also a friend of the Magical Angel, married to
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Tommy hill Figure. And you know, I think, I don't know,
she's just a real like girls girl. She's just she
just is amazing. And I think so every time I
see her, it's just safe, it's comfortable. We just catch
up and you know, we just we just shoot the chisel.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, you know, between the two of you, I certainly
have enough kids to talk about herself. She has more
Oh my gosh, her grandkid count it's really high. I
don't even know we'd have to count, but it's it's
she's got a lot of she's busy, she's got a
lot of grand kids.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
My favorite fun fact about Chris actually is every post
she does, because poor Chris, she has so many grand
children and so many children that at least three times
a week she's doing a birthday post to a kid
or a grandchild.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I think I thought that sounds like the birthday calendar
must be crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And she's so sweet. She even posts for exes of
hers yeah and so and then plus all of her
girlfriends so, and I find what's so endearing about her
is she still posts a little bit like a tween.
She'll say you're the most You're the best friend, sister, mother, daughter, like,
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you know, like aunt. She'll list out like comma, kamma, kamma, comma, and.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
She's just like and I'm so blessed, and you know
that she means everywhere totally and like, to me, that's
one of like the most endearing and one of the
things I just truly love most about her.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, I don't know and she looks damn good.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I was gonna say she also looked gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
She looks.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
She really does, absolutely flawless.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
And why don't you tell everybody why Chris was there?
Who was she awarding?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Speaking of it's good to be Chris's friend.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, she was awarding one of her very best friends. Uh, Anastasia,
who is the number one, the number one eyebrow artist. Yep.
But she actually was winning, I believe, Entrepreneur of the Year. No,
it was a beauty award. It was a beauty Yeah,
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beauty entrepreneur. I don't know, Beauty brand of the Year.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I think it was.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
But Anastasia really has lived the American dream. She is
a force if I have ever known one. When I
moved to LA in two thousand and three and I
started working with some of the biggest actresses in Holywood
and actors and now actually the technical term is actor
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actor actors actor.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Female or male. They would not.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Go to a big event without the very first person
they saw being Anasasia, right, because she made their brows
epically more amazing. And she really chose something niche, but
something brilliant and to be honest, in the world of
beauty we're living in. Eyebrows probably take precedence over like
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lashes at this point.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I mean, eyebrows are such a.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Thing because they change your face, right, and she literally
changed your face.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Was the like beauty pioneer to go, I'm going to
pick this one, huh, this one part of a beauty
routine and just be the best at it. But she did,
and her business has sploded into a million other things.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
But even beyond that, Like I'm not kidding, when I met,
like how I met her in the early two thousands
was she would literally get a ride from someone I
want to say it's her daughter, but she would go
from house to house starting at seven in the morning
and do the brows of every one of my clients
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and beyond, because no one could start anything unless the
brows were Anasasia. And that was how I met her.
It was the most mind blowing thing. And then she.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Unearthed her cosmetic line.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, and it has absolutely exploded to monumental yep, like
monstrous proportions.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
She literally she has one of the biggest beauty brands
in the world.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, she has like a multi billion dollar brand, and
so she's a true success story. And again, similar to Chris,
and it makes sense why they're so close. She is
insanely loyal and she is a girl's girl, and she
is the American dream.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
She works.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
It's like what Rogery says when people ask why I
was successful over other stylists, and Roger Roy says, she
outworked everybody. I would say that about Anasasia. I would
say that about Chris Jenner. I would say that A
dear two, a deer two. And Anna Sausia. She hustled,
she wore, She literally came to this country. What did
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she say at fifteen or something with your thing?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yeah, so you know, English was her second language, and
by the way, I learned English. You know. Yeah, she's
She's incredible. She very deserving of her award.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
So nice to see these people win.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Amazing success story.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Speaking of hard workers.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
You were called upon to present an award to a
stylist named Aaron Walsh and she won Style.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Curator of the Year.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yep, so tell us a little bit about.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Aaron well Erin is a sweetheart.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yes, she is. She u we share an agent and
Aarin funny enough, had like we had met each other
a couple of times over the years in passing yep.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
But I didn't really know her at all.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I remember her coming up to me being very timid
years ago, like pre COVID, and she was super sweet.
And then we sat next to each other at the
Fashion Trust dinner a year ago and she literally for
the whole night just was like like I've watched you,
I've looked up to you know, she couldn't have been
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more gracious and kind about you know, I guess just
how she has looked at my career in my own
and whatever, but like just so gracious and so sweet. Yep.
And I just remember leaving that night going, what a sweetheart?
What like an angel? And I think for me coming
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off so much like so many vindictive people in this industry,
I think when I meet genuinely kind people, you're like,
it's like that person. Like when I moved to LA
and I walked into a supermarket and they started packing
my bags and I was like, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I was like questioning.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I was confused, But Erin is a love and so
now we've become friendly and she's she's a doll. And
she reached out to me about presenting her this award,
and so I said yes because it just felt it
couldn't say no because I feel, you know, and and Erin.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Not to cut you off, but Erin is also very
very successful and working with a ton of clients like
you did, and also has three children, has three little
little ones, which is right, which can It's no joke.
I mean that's that's a lot on her plate.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And not sure why when I when I presented to her,
where I went to in my head with my speech
was it's you see the highlight rill of being a stylist, yep.
But the work and the hours and the dedication and
what you miss the sacrifice. This sacrifice is real, you know.
(27:03):
And I don't think that should ever be underestimated and underappreciated.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Honestly.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, I think especially when you have children, because these
stylists are leaving their kids and it's not easy. It's
not easy to ever leave your kids. But I think
stylist hours are not working hours. No, they're any hour. Yeah,
they're all hours.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
It's quite opposite from a typical nine to five, you
might say, but yeah, no, talking about a deserving, very
deserving stylist and a very hard working stylist. I mean
she got on a red eye and flew to New
York right after the award show to be with a
client for press day. So I mean's she's in the
grind yep and the grind working hard yep. Well, I
want to talk about a very important figure in fashion
(27:48):
that won the Lifetime Achievement Award. Stylist La Roach presented
him with the Lifetime Achievement Award.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
To Bob Mackie. Yep. That was crazy crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
They so also for our listeners, there's going to be
a Bob Mackie documentary coming out. They didn't tell us
the date, no, because I don't think they've finished it
quite yet, but they basically played for everybody in the
audience like a little three minute sizzle teaser of the documentary.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And it looks insane. Yeah, it looks so good.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
So tell us about Bob Mackie from your lens.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I mean, Bob Mackie is He's just unreal. I mean,
Bob Mackie is, like, what do you think of when
someone says.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Bob Mackie Share Share?
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, I also think of Goldie Cony because she has
worn a ton of Bob Mackie.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I think of Carol Burnett.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, I think I think of Dolly Parton With Dolly Parton,
I mean you just think of the absolute pinnacle of
glamour and sparkle and like and icons, and I think,
listen for me. When I think of like stand out
star talent and designers, I think about designers that love women. Yeah,
(29:04):
designers that hold women in a place of almost like royalty,
in a way where it's sort of like, you know
who's like the honestly like Michael Cores. Like Michael Cores
if you talk to him, he loves women right like
he meaning he wants them to look and feel their
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best at any age of anybody, type of any style.
Michael has a gift to make an eighty five year
old woman feel as magical and glamorous as that twenty
five year old woman. Yes, and so there's always an
appreciation I have for designers that you can clearly see
do this because they admire and hold women in a
(29:49):
special place that they feel they should be on this
pedestal of this sort of power and a sort of
a sense of sort of real goal.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Miss And it doesn't mean royalty.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
It just means she could be wearing that Kashmir turtleneck
and a pair of trousers like in the world of
Ralph Lauren totally right. But she's but she's everything, and
she should feel like she's everything, and she's first, not second.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
And so with Bob.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Mackie, you can tell that he's obsessed with women dressing up.
And he talked about that, and he talked about the
fact that as a society, how important it is to
still have a culture in some way that wants to
dress up. Yes, and that is how I feel, and
(30:40):
that is how I live and probably why I love
Europe so much, because people still dress up right, and
la is a very casual place where you can get
away with wearing a pair of polished jeans and like
a blazer to a black tipe. You could totally. It
wouldn't be the dream, but you could. Yeah, some have tried.
Some tried, and so I think, you know, I think,
(31:04):
I think listening to Bob Mackie like speak about it
was beyond.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Really cool, really really iconic and very very cool.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Do you own some Bob Mackie's.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yes, I owned several Bob Makys.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Not enough. I'm trying to.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I'd like to own more.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Sure what we all the one that you loved the
most awarded the In Style Awards. Long sleeve comes to
the ankle, gold white and silver, Yes, with like a
mock neck.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I wore to InStyle.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yes, that's beautiful. I love it. It's heavy, Yeah, very heavy.
His dresses are like.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
That's where I was going to say, too, And also
like shout out to Share Diana Ross. Yes, forget on
stage performing bouncing around, jumping around in these super heavy
Yes garments.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
They are so heavy and in SHARE's case, ahead piece,
Oh my.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Gosh, that's amazing, the Iconic Share Academy Awards. It's like
black feather head piece, open mid drift of course, squin top,
long skirt that's in the documentary, that was in the
little teaser that they showed us that moment, which is incredible.
But I just think it's amazing that Bob Mackie has
a career that has literally run the test of time.
(32:19):
From amazing legendary performer, entertainer, comedian Carol Burnett to Miley
Cyrus literally just wore Bob MCIs at the Grammy for
her performance.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
So it's like, this.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Man and his talent is truly timeless, agreed, And there's
literally something for every every generation. Agreed, which is just
really unheard of these days, I think.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
And I hope it continues, Like I hope that his archives,
you know, he obviously opened it opened up his archives
for this film, Yes, and for Sindeia yes, and for Miley.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I mean, I think he still wants to be seen.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah, God, bless what do you feel about changing gears? Here?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
La Roach is obviously styling Senda and she's on this
major press tour for a movie called Challengers, which is
about a professional tennis player. So everyone is sort of
gearing up for like barbiecore Tennis Corp. Will we be
seeing Rachel Zoe in any tennis cour this spring?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
No, no, you won't, but you might be through the
tennis racket with my kids.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
No, no sweater tied around your.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Sure, sure after your nefe sure. Fun fact. I was
a tennis player and one all sorts of trophies as
a tennis player, and you did until I was fifteen.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
What happened at fifteen?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I had a boyfriend, gone, we're sports. I met the
love of my life. I quit piano art loves. Hush
your mouth, Roger, don't listen to right? Could the love
of my the first love very guy.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
There you go, So you forgot the tennis racket. But
what I mean it's okay? So what did you wear
to play tennis then?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
In your teens? I think I was wearing a lot
of fila where I think I was like in a full.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Luck yeah, like a tennis skirts.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I was into it.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
So you can tennis core, but William I can.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
But I think now and unless I have a racket
in my hand, I most definitely the last time I
was on a court, which I think was this summer,
I was in a wedge.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I was in like a y Cel wedge cap.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Snap.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I think I'm going to be on the ground.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
No, you can't.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
You know, Kius asked me to hit with.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Him and there was no way.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I was saying no, right, I mean, yeah, you want
to participate with the kids, but maybe take the wedges off.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah next time.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah, that court is hot.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Man.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I got to bring a sneaker.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
We gotta, I don't know, yeah, we got to figure
out a sneaker for you. I know. It's like saying
bad words.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Do you feel very flat? Very flat?
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah? What's any more tea that you have about the
Award show?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Other good goss. I mean it was you know, I
thought listening to Amelia was really funny, Yeah, because I
think she was taking humor in herself, like I've never
won an award, so this is a first. And then
Jen Gardner's speech was also really funny.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I mean, listen, Jen is you know.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I've known Jen twenty one years now, and from the
day I met her, I laughed so hard, and people
and interviews would just be like, what's a fun factor,
What's the thing we don't know about Jen Garner? And
I'm like, she isn't arguably the funniest person I know.
She is the funniest person I know. And she got
(35:41):
on stage and delivered that speech as if she was
doing it a comedy sketch, but like she was speaking
from her heart, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
So Jim was amazing.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Oh, we have to say the show was m seed
by a comedian and Australia Adian Celeste Barber.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Hilarious. She's so funny.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I've been following her on Instagram for so long. She did,
and she reminded everybody of that. She played a video
of a of a funny little skit she did with
Tom Ford to start the evening.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
And she's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
So if you don't know of Celeste Barber or follow her,
you should because she's epically funny.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I want to make it.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Her career is just like skyrocketing.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Make it.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
I know. I wish Tom Ford would have been there.
That would have been Bob Mackie and Tom Ward in
the same room. Might have combusted. Too much greatness.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
He's living his best life. He sold his company. He
deserves it. He deserves to live his best.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Life right now, right off into the sunset.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
He never will He's going to keep now.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
He's a virgo. It's a disease.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
And on that note, we will wrap it up.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
But thanks for listening. Well, thank talk to you guys.
LI also let us know for me, I think it
would be so fun if you guys would DM us
what guests you would love me to interview. That would
be great. I would love to hear that.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, keep the guest suggestions coming because we have a
few things in the pipeline that I won't spoil now,
but we'd love to hear what you guys want to
want to hear. So we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Until next week. Bye bye. Thank you so much for
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(37:33):
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Speaker 2 (37:37):
I will talk to you soon.
Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing
in Heels for your weekly dose of glamour, inspiration and
of course fun. This week, I attended the Daily front
Row Fashion Los Angeles Awards. It was the most beautiful
evening honoring some of the best and brightest talent in
the fashion industry. So I wanted to give you a
(00:27):
little sneak peek inside of the event. There were some
incredible looks and some of your favorite celebs were in attendance.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
So let's get right into it.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hello, Rachel zo, Hello, how has your week been.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm very sleepy. I need to do I need to interview.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
A sleep specialist. I yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'm just not going to do it. That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'm going to get all the advice in the world.
I know all the things you're not supposed to be
on your phone. She is a shutdown any electronic for
at least an hour before a bat even two hours.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
And there's like ritual.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I mean, the only thing I do that tracks is
I drink him and meal tea before bed. Yeah, but
I saw the only good habit Casey this morning was like,
you sound a little better today, did you sleep. I'm
like one thirty. She's like on a Tuesday cool. I
was like yeah, but the two nights before it was
three thirty. I think until May thirteenth. I'm just this
is my this is my jam. I'm just going to
(01:20):
take what I can get.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I would have like bloodshot. I speaking of like sounding,
I don't look very good. My like allergy sinuses are
like fully mid fully rearing.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Their head, babe. I mean my kids have been sneezing
my throat. I'm yeah, I didn't even.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Go to Coachella or stagecoach.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I feel like I've been in the desert.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
No, I know. I think everything La finally stopped raining
every other day, and I think super thing went into
bloom super bloom. Yeah, not into it and us allergy suffering.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I'm into it because it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, unless my roses are crashing right now and Roger's
throat is okay.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
A few things that are going on before we jump
into talking about the daily front Row Fashion Los Angeles Worse,
which you attended on Sunday with you. Yes, You're a
day you brought me as your plus one, which was
so exciting. Something's happening in the fashion world.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Did you, by chance see.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
The Ralph Lauren Fall Holiday.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I honestly did not see all of it. I did
see Christy Turlington, yes, walking, I was gonna say, your
buddy opened.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
She's so magical looking.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Gorgeous to a billy Joel saw. Yes, it's all the
elements that would make a Rachel Zoe favorite fashion show.
But the clothes looked incredible. I mean again, it's Ralph Laurence,
so iconic, so true to the aesthetic of the brand.
I think he walked out with Ricky at the end,
(02:52):
always gave a little way. It's just very endearing to
see a legendary designer still like at the top of
their game.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, truly at the top.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
It's I have to say, it's pretty incredible because I
have to say, like I would argue that being a
fashion designers up there in the top five most difficult
professions one could ever choose.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
And it is not for the faint of heart, It
is not. It is so difficult.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It used to be somewhat formulaic. There was there was
a there was a way that you knew how to
win at the game. And now none of those rules
apply anymore. None and right.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Whenshion calendar as a business is all all over the
place now and.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
No one stays on calendar.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Like when I started, there was pretty much nobody that
would show off a calendar because because it was dictated
it was it was solely dependent on when the buyers
and the fashion editors and stylists were coming in for
the shows, and that it was predicated solely on that.
And now because of the Internet, it literally doesn't matter
(04:06):
when anyone shows, and deliveries take obviously much shorter people
do drops, like the method in which you even.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Deliver clothes to the stores is different.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
So yes, to not tangent, the entire fashion calendar has
kind of gone, you know, out the window for the
most part. Sure, Mark Jacobs does not show during fashion week, right,
he shows like two weeks before or a week before.
But honestly the show is quintessential Ralph Lauren, so it
is true to his American I mean, I think he's
(04:39):
the definition of American luxury. And I think, you know,
he always does some beating, a little sparkle at the end,
always like gorgeous like hammered satin flip dresses with like
beautiful Kashmer sweaters, and cowboy hats and you know, and always.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Like the silk skirt with like the like yummy cashmere.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
It's so beautiful. It never gets old, does doesn't It
doesn't get old.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
It's so gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And I think, you know, truthfully, when you think of
American luxury, it's like it's this, it is, and it's
really just like I think of all the Ralph Lauren
shows that I've attended in my life, and truthfully, like
if I had to reimagine, it would probably look like
the one he showed in New York yesterday. Yeah, you know,
there's a little bit of like suede bomber jackets and suiting.
(05:27):
And what I do love about Ralph is that for
as long as I can remember, he was showing women
in suits and tuxedos. Yeah, on the runway, not just commercially.
And I love that because I think for him, he
just really celebrates women and knows like women are powerful
and they should show their power and when they're in
a room, they.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Too should be in a suit.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
And you know, I think Diane Keaton like almost exclusively
worse Ralph Lauren. I mean, yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I mean I think like her character Annie Hall is
like so iconic and so her yes, Like it's almost
like you can't differentiate between the two. But yeah, I
think the suiting is always beautiful. His use of Denome
in an elevated way is like the most iconic you know.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And don't be wrong, don't don't get me wrong, it's
it spent.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yep dollar signs. But then at the end of the show,
he came out with his wife Fricky and always how
long have they been married? Do you know?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Long before?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I was like a very long time, Like I'm with
my parents' age. Yeah, time that ye've been married, and
definitely up there, and she's so beautiful and she's and
like I just always picture them like they like he
walks out on stage, but I kind of always see
him like on a horse.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
To me, Ralph is on a horse, Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Like leaning on a fence next to a horse.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yes. And And the thing about Ralph Laura and I
do want to touch on this because it really does
relate very much to climbing and heels. I think I
think Ralph Lauren when I think of American luxury and
when I all my younger friends that are designers are
aspiring designers. The first thing they say when I talk
to them for the first time, I want.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Okay, who are your heroes?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Ralph Lauren, Ralph Lauren, Ralph Lauren, Ralp Lauren because Ralp
Lurin and I think probably in Italy the designers probably
say Georgie RMANI, you know, because I think that he
is the depiction of literally American luxury, but beyond American luxury,
He's the American dream. Yes, and I think like he
started as a tie salesman on a street corner in Manhattan,
(07:42):
and you know, was not a trained designer, right.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
But there's a beautiful documentary about him.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Oh my god, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
It's very good, so good. If you guys are interested,
you should watch. It's just the premiere of that history.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah. History is really incredible too. It is the American dream,
which is incredible.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
In other fashion news, yes, you attended the Daily front
Row Los Angeles Fashion Awards, the eighth annual Daily front
Row Awards. And let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I want to start with by.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Your luke, what were you wearing.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I was wearing a dress by my very dear friend,
one of my loves who I've known my entire career
jam Bautista Valley, and if you have not heard of
sham Batista Valley, you must because he truly is one
of the most brilliant designers out there, yep. Who makes
the most dreamy, fantasy, magical gowns ever. He shows cature
(08:42):
every season. He used to be Creve director of Bungo
and then his own label and has been doing that
for twenty years. And he's incredible. He dresses all sorts
of royalty. Yep. I'm very low bro for him, but
I wear a lot of sham Batista. Typically find myself
in Oscar de la Rena yep or Jean Batista because
(09:06):
they have a sort of vintagey seventies but also feminine
book glamorous with a bit of an edge, usually metallics.
There's feathers, there's sequence, there's glamor.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
There's glamor in there's slimmer.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, there's glammer.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
It's not sleek and minimal, no and modern. No, it's
very glamorous, and there's there's a touch of something like retro.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
And why not on a Sunday get in full gold Leme?
Why not full gold Leme? Why not you look stunning beautiful.
You ran into some to some friends. Well, I were.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
There, you know it.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
The fun thing for me about going to something like
the Daily front Row is I definitely was at the
first one. I think I've been at a few of
them in between. But what's so nice is, you know,
having come up in this industry, you know, it's only.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Over the last few years that.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
The talent behind the scenes is celebrated and honored. And
I think for me to be able to watch, you know,
these sort of newer talents, I mean legendary iconic talents
like Bob Mackie, but a Deer Aberge who is one
of the very first hairstylists that I worked with with
(10:22):
one of my very first celebrity clients over twenty years ago,
and we collaborated. I probably collaborated more with a Deer
than any other hairstylist in my career and we've remained
friends forever. And I think like watching him winning so
many awards, and for those of you that have not
heard of him, he literally is transformative in women's lives.
(10:43):
From Nicole Kibman, Charlie's Theron, Christian Store, Marian Cotillard and
Hath the way you name it, you name it, but
the thing is, you know it's funny. Jennifer Garner was
presenting him with the award, in the way she spoke
about him was so right on, because a deer and
(11:04):
I would literally when we were doing a look for
whether it was Anne Hathaway or Jen Gardner, whomever we
were working with, Karen Knightley, we literally would talk about
it for weeks and we would have tear sheets, and
we would have meetings and we would like and then
Jen would come in and be like, what are you
crazy people talking about?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I just made Piscotti like, she's like you.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
And so I think for me to have that experience
with someone who cared as much as I did was
so inspiring and fun for me, Yes, because you don't
feel alone on an island, and so to see a
deer still doing that and the way that he does
it and the way that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
He cares, it's unreal.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
What he has done for Kristen Stewart, I know, because
he can take a woman with literally almost like a
shaved head and somehow make nineteen hairstyles.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I'm very elevated. I know. He's incredible.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So it's a gift.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
It's it's nice too.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I think you calling to mind. His willingness to collaborate,
I think is something that was a standout when Jennifer
was talking about him.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
And his work.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
It's like he's very involved, as you mentioned, but also
very very collaborative with a stylist and with a makeup
artist to create a sort of uniformed story for an actor,
which is really really cool. He was amazing. Well, we
can't talk about the awards on Sunday without talking about
(12:36):
Doja Cat.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, Doja Cat was really cool and her stylist did
like chic bedroom lounge weear with like a sleep eye
mask up in his hair and like silk short pjs.
It was it was a luck. And then Doja Cat
was wearing a massive, like mink coat to the floor.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I'm going to assume it was fau and what was
under it.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
No, she was wearing tight and she had like briefs
and a brawlette, right, That's what it looked like.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
So she was sort of bare.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
They did this sort of lingerie PJ vibe and luggage.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
By the way, she was carrying like a vintage She.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Literally was carrying two massive vintage suitcases. And I remember
because we were sitting like a few seats over and
I'm looking At'm like, did someone bring luggage? Like is
someone getting on a plane after the show.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
And then she went up and gave a really funny speech.
But again, like Brett Brett, I again, I thinks I
think a relationship between a stylist and an artist should
never be underestimated or underappreciated because it is so intimate. Yes,
(13:56):
and he won Music Stylist, He won Music Stylist of
the Year, Brett Brett, Brett Brett. And he was so sweet.
He actually gave me a shout out up on stage.
She was a love but he was hilarious. I mean,
the whole night was really funny and endearing. I love
shows like that because it's not so uptight and serious
and structured. And I think when you do a show
(14:18):
that's celebrating creative people, you can't you can't put.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Too much structure around it.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
No, you know. And they were great.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
They were a great dynamic duo.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And I have so much love and appreciation for the relationship,
a great relationship between an artist and a stylist. Totally.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It was really fun to see them. You also bumped
into Lisa Renna. Yes, Lisa Renna, you have. I don't
think you've seen Lisa in a minute, right, Well I did.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I've actually seen her quite a bit because she is
out and about with her daughter Cristantly, Emilia and Hamlin
and she you know, it's wild like I've known her
girls since they were very little.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
I mean, I think the girls came with Lisa to
one of our events before. I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
She walked in one of my shows, That's what it was. Oh,
I'm eighteen. I want to say, that's right in pre COVID,
and it's like pre COVID. I know.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Amelia Gray one Model of the Year Daily Front, so
Lisa and Harry here there.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Her speech was so cool, it was so cute. And
Katie Grand, another legend in my life and career, presented
Amilia with Model of the Year. And Katie Grand for
those of you that don't know, is iconic. She is
responsible for discovering countless talent in the fashion world. She
(15:41):
is the creative force and partner who has worked alongside
Mark Jacobs for as long as I know him. She
styled every one of his shows for Mark I mean
she's a force. She has her own magazines in the UK,
she has creative directed.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I was going to say, where did she start her
career too, No, I want to.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
See she a fashion editor. I want to see British Vogue.
But it was definitely like she's really cool. Yeah, she's
like now she has like the perfect magazine. Before that,
it was like, I mean I know everything she's ever done.
I mean like, yeah, she's just she's a force.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
And basically Amelia was saying to her when she got
the award, you me, you really were the person who
made her career turn a corner correct to massive success.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Correct. And by the way, I'd like to note that.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
There are people in fashion who have that power of
really like finding talent and discovering them. It was Love Magazine,
I love Love Magazine, okay, okay, which was one of
my favorites. She shot me for it a few times.
But she is someone who takes chances. She is someone
(16:59):
who part of my French but doesn't give fuck all
what people think, what people say. She doesn't get caught
up in the nonsense.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Ever.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
She was always nice to me. Yeah, best friends with
Mark Jacobs and always was his like creative partner in
his shows and they're very like minded and.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
It was cool to get to meet her.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, she's amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, she was funny.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Oh, she's so funny.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
But similar to.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Like Karen Reitfield, who was the editor of French Folkue
for many years, certain people and she had put I
believe Kim Kardashian on the cover of French Vogue and
she was the first person to put Kim in fashion.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, and say she's no joke. Yeah, you know if
I remember correctly, because it was like a huge deal, right,
you know, yep.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
And then Kim I think, was on the cover of
American Bookue with Kanye at the time. Yes, yeah, but
I'm sure, yeah, I think French Folgue did come first.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
I'm almost posit. I Karen put her on the cover first,
and everyone was like, whoa, oh.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
My gosh, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
What do I think, like the queen of fashion fashion? Yeah,
is putting pop culture.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Right on the front cover. Yeah. Well, speaking of everyone's
favorite Kardashian, Chris Jenner was there the queen and I
hate to tell our listeners, I wasn't quite close enough
to eavesdrop on your conversation. I was kind of like,
you know, standing back, googly eyed at all the other
amazing people there.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
But what did you and Chris talk about? I don't
know you were chatty.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
You know what, Chris and I have friends for so long.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah. I have always adored her. I've always loved her.
I've always respected her. She's always been funny as f Yeah,
she is such a good friend. Like to all who
are lucky enough to be in Chris's orbit, She's everything
that you dream Chris Jenner to be. And long before
she was Chris Jenner, she was this person. Yeah. And
(19:01):
she's just a very kind, caring, loyal, beyond loyal. It's funny,
like she's just all the things. Yeah, and you know,
we share a very dear mutual friend, d hill Figure,
who also a friend of the Magical Angel, married to
(19:22):
Tommy hill Figure. And you know, I think, I don't know,
she's just a real like girls girl. She's just she
just is amazing. And I think so every time I
see her, it's just safe, it's comfortable. We just catch
up and you know, we just we just shoot the chisel.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, you know, between the two of you, I certainly
have enough kids to talk about herself. She has more
Oh my gosh, her grandkid count it's really high. I
don't even know we'd have to count, but it's it's
she's got a lot of she's busy, she's got a
lot of grand kids.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
My favorite fun fact about Chris actually is every post
she does, because poor Chris, she has so many grand
children and so many children that at least three times
a week she's doing a birthday post to a kid
or a grandchild.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I think I thought that sounds like the birthday calendar
must be crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And she's so sweet. She even posts for exes of
hers yeah and so and then plus all of her
girlfriends so, and I find what's so endearing about her
is she still posts a little bit like a tween.
She'll say you're the most You're the best friend, sister, mother, daughter, like,
(20:38):
you know, like aunt. She'll list out like comma, kamma, kamma, comma, and.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
She's just like and I'm so blessed, and you know
that she means everywhere totally and like, to me, that's
one of like the most endearing and one of the
things I just truly love most about her.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, I don't know and she looks damn good.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I was gonna say she also looked gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
She looks.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
She really does, absolutely flawless.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
And why don't you tell everybody why Chris was there?
Who was she awarding?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Speaking of it's good to be Chris's friend.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, she was awarding one of her very best friends. Uh, Anastasia,
who is the number one, the number one eyebrow artist. Yep.
But she actually was winning, I believe, Entrepreneur of the Year. No,
it was a beauty award. It was a beauty Yeah,
(21:29):
beauty entrepreneur. I don't know, Beauty brand of the Year.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I think it was.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
But Anastasia really has lived the American dream. She is
a force if I have ever known one. When I
moved to LA in two thousand and three and I
started working with some of the biggest actresses in Holywood
and actors and now actually the technical term is actor
(21:54):
actor actors actor.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Female or male. They would not.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Go to a big event without the very first person
they saw being Anasasia, right, because she made their brows
epically more amazing. And she really chose something niche, but
something brilliant and to be honest, in the world of
beauty we're living in. Eyebrows probably take precedence over like
(22:25):
lashes at this point.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I mean, eyebrows are such a.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Thing because they change your face, right, and she literally
changed your face.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Was the like beauty pioneer to go, I'm going to
pick this one, huh, this one part of a beauty
routine and just be the best at it. But she did,
and her business has sploded into a million other things.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
But even beyond that, Like I'm not kidding, when I met,
like how I met her in the early two thousands
was she would literally get a ride from someone I
want to say it's her daughter, but she would go
from house to house starting at seven in the morning
and do the brows of every one of my clients
(23:08):
and beyond, because no one could start anything unless the
brows were Anasasia. And that was how I met her.
It was the most mind blowing thing. And then she.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Unearthed her cosmetic line.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, and it has absolutely exploded to monumental yep, like
monstrous proportions.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
She literally she has one of the biggest beauty brands
in the world.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, she has like a multi billion dollar brand, and
so she's a true success story. And again, similar to Chris,
and it makes sense why they're so close. She is
insanely loyal and she is a girl's girl, and she
is the American dream.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
She works.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
It's like what Rogery says when people ask why I
was successful over other stylists, and Roger Roy says, she
outworked everybody. I would say that about Anasasia. I would
say that about Chris Jenner. I would say that A
dear two, a deer two. And Anna Sausia. She hustled,
she wore, She literally came to this country. What did
(24:11):
she say at fifteen or something with your thing?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yeah, so you know, English was her second language, and
by the way, I learned English. You know. Yeah, she's
She's incredible. She very deserving of her award.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
So nice to see these people win.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Amazing success story.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Speaking of hard workers.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
You were called upon to present an award to a
stylist named Aaron Walsh and she won Style.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Curator of the Year.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yep, so tell us a little bit about.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Aaron well Erin is a sweetheart.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yes, she is. She u we share an agent and
Aarin funny enough, had like we had met each other
a couple of times over the years in passing yep.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
But I didn't really know her at all.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I remember her coming up to me being very timid
years ago, like pre COVID, and she was super sweet.
And then we sat next to each other at the
Fashion Trust dinner a year ago and she literally for
the whole night just was like like I've watched you,
I've looked up to you know, she couldn't have been
(25:23):
more gracious and kind about you know, I guess just
how she has looked at my career in my own
and whatever, but like just so gracious and so sweet. Yep.
And I just remember leaving that night going, what a sweetheart?
What like an angel? And I think for me coming
(25:43):
off so much like so many vindictive people in this industry,
I think when I meet genuinely kind people, you're like,
it's like that person. Like when I moved to LA
and I walked into a supermarket and they started packing
my bags and I was like, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I was like questioning.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I was confused, But Erin is a love and so
now we've become friendly and she's she's a doll. And
she reached out to me about presenting her this award,
and so I said yes because it just felt it
couldn't say no because I feel, you know, and and Erin.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Not to cut you off, but Erin is also very
very successful and working with a ton of clients like
you did, and also has three children, has three little
little ones, which is right, which can It's no joke.
I mean that's that's a lot on her plate.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And not sure why when I when I presented to her,
where I went to in my head with my speech
was it's you see the highlight rill of being a stylist, yep.
But the work and the hours and the dedication and
what you miss the sacrifice. This sacrifice is real, you know.
(27:03):
And I don't think that should ever be underestimated and underappreciated.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Honestly.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, I think especially when you have children, because these
stylists are leaving their kids and it's not easy. It's
not easy to ever leave your kids. But I think
stylist hours are not working hours. No, they're any hour. Yeah,
they're all hours.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
It's quite opposite from a typical nine to five, you
might say, but yeah, no, talking about a deserving, very
deserving stylist and a very hard working stylist. I mean
she got on a red eye and flew to New
York right after the award show to be with a
client for press day. So I mean's she's in the
grind yep and the grind working hard yep. Well, I
want to talk about a very important figure in fashion
(27:48):
that won the Lifetime Achievement Award. Stylist La Roach presented
him with the Lifetime Achievement Award.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
To Bob Mackie. Yep. That was crazy crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
They so also for our listeners, there's going to be
a Bob Mackie documentary coming out. They didn't tell us
the date, no, because I don't think they've finished it
quite yet, but they basically played for everybody in the
audience like a little three minute sizzle teaser of the documentary.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And it looks insane. Yeah, it looks so good.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
So tell us about Bob Mackie from your lens.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I mean, Bob Mackie is He's just unreal. I mean,
Bob Mackie is, like, what do you think of when
someone says.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Bob Mackie Share Share?
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, I also think of Goldie Cony because she has
worn a ton of Bob Mackie.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I think of Carol Burnett.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, I think I think of Dolly Parton With Dolly Parton,
I mean you just think of the absolute pinnacle of
glamour and sparkle and like and icons, and I think,
listen for me. When I think of like stand out
star talent and designers, I think about designers that love women. Yeah,
(29:04):
designers that hold women in a place of almost like royalty,
in a way where it's sort of like, you know
who's like the honestly like Michael Cores. Like Michael Cores
if you talk to him, he loves women right like
he meaning he wants them to look and feel their
(29:25):
best at any age of anybody, type of any style.
Michael has a gift to make an eighty five year
old woman feel as magical and glamorous as that twenty
five year old woman. Yes, and so there's always an
appreciation I have for designers that you can clearly see
do this because they admire and hold women in a
(29:49):
special place that they feel they should be on this
pedestal of this sort of power and a sort of
a sense of sort of real goal.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Miss And it doesn't mean royalty.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
It just means she could be wearing that Kashmir turtleneck
and a pair of trousers like in the world of
Ralph Lauren totally right. But she's but she's everything, and
she should feel like she's everything, and she's first, not second.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
And so with Bob.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Mackie, you can tell that he's obsessed with women dressing up.
And he talked about that, and he talked about the
fact that as a society, how important it is to
still have a culture in some way that wants to
dress up. Yes, and that is how I feel, and
(30:40):
that is how I live and probably why I love
Europe so much, because people still dress up right, and
la is a very casual place where you can get
away with wearing a pair of polished jeans and like
a blazer to a black tipe. You could totally. It
wouldn't be the dream, but you could. Yeah, some have tried.
Some tried, and so I think, you know, I think,
(31:04):
I think listening to Bob Mackie like speak about it
was beyond.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Really cool, really really iconic and very very cool.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Do you own some Bob Mackie's.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yes, I owned several Bob Makys.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Not enough. I'm trying to.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I'd like to own more.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Sure what we all the one that you loved the
most awarded the In Style Awards. Long sleeve comes to
the ankle, gold white and silver, Yes, with like a
mock neck.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I wore to InStyle.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yes, that's beautiful. I love it. It's heavy, Yeah, very heavy.
His dresses are like.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
That's where I was going to say, too, And also
like shout out to Share Diana Ross. Yes, forget on
stage performing bouncing around, jumping around in these super heavy
Yes garments.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
They are so heavy and in SHARE's case, ahead piece,
Oh my.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Gosh, that's amazing, the Iconic Share Academy Awards. It's like
black feather head piece, open mid drift of course, squin top,
long skirt that's in the documentary, that was in the
little teaser that they showed us that moment, which is incredible.
But I just think it's amazing that Bob Mackie has
a career that has literally run the test of time.
(32:19):
From amazing legendary performer, entertainer, comedian Carol Burnett to Miley
Cyrus literally just wore Bob MCIs at the Grammy for
her performance.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
So it's like, this.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Man and his talent is truly timeless, agreed, And there's
literally something for every every generation. Agreed, which is just
really unheard of these days, I think.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
And I hope it continues, Like I hope that his archives,
you know, he obviously opened it opened up his archives
for this film, Yes, and for Sindeia yes, and for Miley.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I mean, I think he still wants to be seen.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah, God, bless what do you feel about changing gears? Here?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
La Roach is obviously styling Senda and she's on this
major press tour for a movie called Challengers, which is
about a professional tennis player. So everyone is sort of
gearing up for like barbiecore Tennis Corp. Will we be
seeing Rachel Zoe in any tennis cour this spring?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
No, no, you won't, but you might be through the
tennis racket with my kids.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
No, no sweater tied around your.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Sure, sure after your nefe sure. Fun fact. I was
a tennis player and one all sorts of trophies as
a tennis player, and you did until I was fifteen.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
What happened at fifteen?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I had a boyfriend, gone, we're sports. I met the
love of my life. I quit piano art loves. Hush
your mouth, Roger, don't listen to right? Could the love
of my the first love very guy.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
There you go, So you forgot the tennis racket. But
what I mean it's okay? So what did you wear
to play tennis then?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
In your teens? I think I was wearing a lot
of fila where I think I was like in a full.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Luck yeah, like a tennis skirts.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I was into it.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
So you can tennis core, but William I can.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
But I think now and unless I have a racket
in my hand, I most definitely the last time I
was on a court, which I think was this summer,
I was in a wedge.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I was in like a y Cel wedge cap.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Snap.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I think I'm going to be on the ground.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
No, you can't.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
You know, Kius asked me to hit with.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Him and there was no way.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I was saying no, right, I mean, yeah, you want
to participate with the kids, but maybe take the wedges off.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah next time.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah, that court is hot.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Man.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I got to bring a sneaker.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
We gotta, I don't know, yeah, we got to figure
out a sneaker for you. I know. It's like saying
bad words.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Do you feel very flat? Very flat?
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah? What's any more tea that you have about the
Award show?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Other good goss. I mean it was you know, I
thought listening to Amelia was really funny, Yeah, because I
think she was taking humor in herself, like I've never
won an award, so this is a first. And then
Jen Gardner's speech was also really funny.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I mean, listen, Jen is you know.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I've known Jen twenty one years now, and from the
day I met her, I laughed so hard, and people
and interviews would just be like, what's a fun factor,
What's the thing we don't know about Jen Garner? And
I'm like, she isn't arguably the funniest person I know.
She is the funniest person I know. And she got
(35:41):
on stage and delivered that speech as if she was
doing it a comedy sketch, but like she was speaking
from her heart, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
So Jim was amazing.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Oh, we have to say the show was m seed
by a comedian and Australia Adian Celeste Barber.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Hilarious. She's so funny.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I've been following her on Instagram for so long. She did,
and she reminded everybody of that. She played a video
of a of a funny little skit she did with
Tom Ford to start the evening.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
And she's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
So if you don't know of Celeste Barber or follow her,
you should because she's epically funny.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I want to make it.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Her career is just like skyrocketing.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Make it.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
I know. I wish Tom Ford would have been there.
That would have been Bob Mackie and Tom Ward in
the same room. Might have combusted. Too much greatness.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
He's living his best life. He sold his company. He
deserves it. He deserves to live his best.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Life right now, right off into the sunset.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
He never will He's going to keep now.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
He's a virgo. It's a disease.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
And on that note, we will wrap it up.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
But thanks for listening. Well, thank talk to you guys.
LI also let us know for me, I think it
would be so fun if you guys would DM us
what guests you would love me to interview. That would
be great. I would love to hear that.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, keep the guest suggestions coming because we have a
few things in the pipeline that I won't spoil now,
but we'd love to hear what you guys want to
want to hear. So we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Until next week. Bye bye. Thank you so much for
listening to Clembian Heels. If you haven't already, please subscribe
to the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the iHeart app,
or wherever you get your podcasts so you don't miss
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(37:33):
I'm at Clemi and Heals pod for the latest episodes
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Speaker 2 (37:37):
I will talk to you soon.
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