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December 7, 2022 26 mins

With a new perspective on his life’s work, Omari tries to do some damage control by producing an exposé on himself. While staying in control of his own narrative sounds great, it proves difficult to also be believably objective. (Featuring Michael Gutierrez)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mm hmm. Breathe in love, breathe out hate, m M breathing, positivity,
breathe out negativity m M breathing. Oh oh oh, I

(00:21):
didn't see it there. I was just I was doing
my my little meditations and I had no idea you
you're actually you lie of saying, and you asked me, yeah, well,
uh so this was my meditation. Um, And as you
can see, things are a little bit different. Welcome back,

(00:43):
Welcome back to my home, my humble abode, if you will.
This is this is a lot different than uh what
you remember, because now everything is about positivity. We're all
about love and positive and positivity. Peace to you, by

(01:03):
the way, Peace and long life to you and your ancestors,
and not mistake uh thank you for that. My ancestors
would thank you, but they are all dead, so long
life is out of the question for them. But well,
that is that's negative. That would be an instance of negativity,

(01:26):
and that's not actually allowed here. You're yeah, no negativity allowed,
so we don't do that, right, thank you, Samson, Because
we're all about positivity here. Now we can make anything positive.
Don't bring the negative from the world in here. All

(01:49):
they care about is the negative, and now we are
in the business of making it positive. Because what we
used to do is take negative or neutral and make
it negative. But now we do it positive, right exactly. Yeah,
I'm sure. I'm sure he got it. So I'll show you. Yeah,

(02:10):
we can make anything positive. Just look at this. Watch
watch this. Uh, let's see. I got a headline right here, um,
and you will be able to make it into a
positive right off the bat. Let's see headline, unhoused population
hits all time high. Okay, okay, uh, unhoused population hits

(02:37):
all time high, I guess son. Instead of that wording,
I would say, more Americans reconnect with the great outdoors. Okay,
But as I was, I was about to show you. Yeah,
that's good, that's good. But we could go even deeper
than that. Um. Let's see here, Uh, this as a

(02:58):
bus crash kills third they students. Okay, and you want
me to make it positive. You're supposed to make that
sound good, right? Uh? Okay. Well, instead of those words
of a bus crash kills thirty students, I would say
that's a recent boom in the funeral business is expected

(03:23):
to boost the local economy. All right, So yeah, and Uh,
come on, wait a minute, get back here before you
go on your tour. Uh take this with you. Uh.
Man suffers third degree burns in fire that destroys family.
Hall Man gets fresh started. Are we happy? We're all happy.

(03:45):
We're good because you can't bring me down. You can't
bring me down. All about positivity. Baby, not my state,
not my staate, not my state. Accurate report doesn't. A
Christian sismologist from Amaria Cristins claims a reason increase in
earthquake is being correctly caused by an increase of rock

(04:06):
and roll. Here's an eleven. In a new interview with
Omarac your News, Dr Fauci refuses to take responsibility for
nine eleven. He says it's because he had nothing to
do with it. We'll let you decide. It has been
a year since the crowd turned on Camari, and I

(04:29):
am visiting him at his home to see just how
things have changed. All right, So now we're back on
this gravelly road that we were on about this time
one year ago. Um, from the outside, Gabe looks the same. Okay,
we're passing that now. Well, now the the statues, the

(04:52):
human statues, have been replaced with real, actual statues that.
That's a nice refreshing uh change. And we're coming up
on a home in the distance. Uh oh wow, Well
someone's coming here to de greet us. Okay, let's just

(05:13):
get on out of the car there. Hello, yo, hello, welcome,
my brother, welcome ah am, all right. Did did you
shave your head? I did? I did shave my head.
It's all a part of the rebranding, dropping the self,
dropping the ego, and fully embracing positivity. Have you met

(05:38):
the al packers? I had not, so you got rid
of the the dogs last time. There were two two
big dogs that we're here to welcome me. Yes. Yeah,
Bezos and Ellen couldn't get on the same page of positivity,
so we had to drop them off in the woods.
But Gandhi and Mother Teresa here they're fitting in just fine.

(06:02):
Are you sure you name them correctly? The one that
you pointed out as Mother Teresa seems to be uh male, No,
I don't think so. Well. She is deeply penetrating Gandhi
right now. Um, there's no mistaking that. Well, there ain't

(06:23):
nothing but an expression of love, my brother. It's love.
We're all about love. You don't be afraid. Do not
be afraid of love. Do not be afraid of love
in any expression. Do not look away. You have to
look love right in the eye. I really don't want
to look at it, definitely not in the eye. No, No,

(06:44):
you gotta look. You gotta stare love right in the
face as it's happening. That's that's the you get the
role feeling. There's nothing that replaces that. I really really
like to look away. Yeah, yeah, me too. Actually, all right,
well let's go. Amari then took me on a tour
of the property that now more closely resembled some sort

(07:08):
of zend retreat than the billionaire playboy bachelor path that
I saw before. And here we have our passion pool. Uh,
anything you're passionate about, you toss right into the water.
Some people are passionate about television. That's why there's TVs

(07:28):
in there. Some people it's video games, which explains the PlayStation.
For some it's cooking, and that's why there we a
toaster in there. Well that that does seem dangerous. I
would highly advise against that. Who I'm sorry, This is

(07:51):
this is positive vibes only in this uh this environment,
so and over here is our fo ifness monument, the
Forgiveness monument. This is just the bust of Osama bin
Laden exactly, never forget to forgive. After the tour, Amari

(08:22):
told me that he still wants to win a Peabody,
but he now has a new plan for how So
this documentary all the footage, will use it to produce
an expose on me. So initially I was planning on
doing a basically propaganda campaign. Now, obviously at the time

(08:47):
I did not look at it as propaganda. I just
really wanted people to be on my side for winning
a Peabody. But now I realized that it was, and
I'm chained ng my angle. I think that it should
be an expose on me, the most influential fake newswriter

(09:08):
in history, and and how that worked to kind of
bring a negative viewpoint into many American households. Now they'll
eat that up. Plus all my critics will have to
give me props for being so brave and uh, you know,
self aware, you know whatever? The fuck? Uh Okay, Okay, yeah,

(09:33):
actually I I love that idea, but just saw you
Now it would have to be a no holds bar
documentary podcast expose, just an unflinching look into the true
inner workings of your empire. That's the only way I

(09:54):
can agree to be a part of something like that. Yeah,
of course, really, I mean I'm talking about everything, everything
from the pitch meetings. No, no, no, no, no, I
don't like that. Uh wait, because you're just agrede. No,
I said, I don't like it, but you know that's Uh,

(10:17):
it's okay. Uh, I'll make something good. All about positivity,
We're all about turning bad into good. So I'll make
something out of it. I'll take care of it, don't
you worry about it. After we spoke, I'm already cut
together a version of the documentary that presented a more
palatable version of himself, none of the tirades or lively language,

(10:38):
and I'm already seemed proud of it. But I advised
him to focus group. We recorded one of the one
on one conversations I'm already had with the focus group
member after they listened to his version of the podcast expose. Uh,
all right, so you had a chance to listen to

(11:04):
the whole thing. And uh, I'm looking over your comment card,
but I wanted to hear from you. Uh, what do
you think what do you think. Um, I'm supposed to
be honest, right you want to honest? I hated it.
I despised it. I just it's it's it's a giant

(11:27):
piece of ship. Really yeah, piece of ship? Okay? Uh,
you really really trying to take me back out of
this positivity thing, but I won't allow it to happen. Um.
So more specifically, uh, your comment card says that some

(11:50):
of it felt staged. I would like to know what
felt staged about when I randomly came across a baby
bald eagle in New York City. I don't know if
they're indigenous to the city, but it's totally plausible. It
had to happen at least once. And you heard me

(12:13):
on the podcast nurse it back to health with the
totally random raw squirrel meat I happened to have in
my pocket. What felt staged about that? I think you
were really trying to win back empathy, um with your audience,
and it just felt it felt like it was scripted.
You know. Um. Look, I I respect our troops, okay,

(12:38):
I respect our country, and I just feel like you
were really trying to Frankly, I think you were trying
to do some subliminal political messaging there, and I just
did not appreciate it. I just wanted the politics to
stay out of this. I was promised chocolate milk. I
never received the chocolate milk. Um. And what I did

(12:59):
for you was your unfiltered political agenda, and I did
not appreciate that. What's political about a baby bald eagle?
You tell me if you if you put politics on it,
that's on you. I saw. What I saw was not politics.
I saw a very expensive baby bald eagle that probably
cost about five dollars an hour, and I nursed that

(13:23):
thing back to health. That's what I saw. No, why
would you know any of that? What the fact that
you have all these why would you know any of
that about how much it would cost? And the beeple
I haven't seen a lot of baby bald eagles in
my lifetime. But this thing had a taper. It had
had a bald fade, you know, hence the name. And

(13:45):
this thing was Look. I don't want to say this
thing was from the hood, but it's certainly had a
swagger about it that it knew it was the hair.
It knew that I don't know, And you want us
to I don't know. I'm sorry, I'm just I'm just
upset because I'm just remembering what I saw. And the

(14:07):
bald eago at one point looked at the camera and smiled,
and it had a gold grill in its mouth. If
that's not yeah, if that's not calculated, I don't know
what is. Hey. Hey, I was surprised too. I was
surprised when I saw it. I was there, and I
was also surprised. You probably heard how surprised I was.
I was like, what and and now open the mouth.

(14:29):
Oh what? I was very surprised. Uh all right. You
also say that it was self aggrandizing, which, oh word,
what was self aggrandizing about? When I gave one lucky
fan the opportunity to clean my mansion for free, for totally,

(14:50):
for free, given someone a business opportunity that they can do,
and it cost them nothing, at no cost, at zero
cost whatsoever? What what cots self agrandizing? It costs some time?
I mean the fact that you found this person at
an unemployment line and you said, I'm gonna give you
a job today. That's right, that's right, And this person,

(15:15):
as you know, has no job. Have you don't know
they don't have any any career um opportunities. And so
you let them come into your house and clean your mansion. Ye,
and then you kicked them right out and you said
go back to being poor, and you kept calling them unemployed,
which I just didn't appreciate either. Well, I mean that's

(15:38):
just objectivity. If you're you're unemployed. Uh and you don't
like it. Uh? Well, okay, you got a point there,
all right, but this on this you have zero points
at all. You can't say it was selvil grandizing. When
I showed my bank account and how much money I have,
that's not selvil grandizing at all. That's encouragement. That's encouraging

(16:03):
people to go out and do what I did to
have what I had. Do you know what the median
income is for an American household? I don't know, like
one point five? Oh see that that that lets me
know that you're completely out of touch. Ouch, I'm out
of touch. I'm out of touch. I will have you

(16:26):
know that I have millions of fans across out of touch.
What about I literally I had car trouble. I I
even showed you my car trouble. Remember that. Remember I
caught a flat tire when I was off roading in
my Lamborghini out of touch, out of touch, I had
to I almost had to change a tie. Almost. I

(16:48):
I'm sorry. I'm just so parched. I have not received
my chocolate milk. Um I I don't even know where
to begin with us. You know you went off roading
in a Lamborghini that is not set up for that. Um,
you almost had you almost had the change a tire.
You know my alternator went out last week? Do you

(17:09):
know what that is? Uh? No, you don't. I can
tell by looking at your face that you don't know
what an alternator. I don't. I'm not gonna explain it
to you, but I will say that my engine block
was warped because the alternator went out, and I had
to buy a brand new car. Okay, well, yeah, I'm sorry.

(17:30):
You know it wasn't a Lamborghini, sure right, it was
a Priest TC. Okay, well sounds I'm I'm telling you
what car it is because that's the car I can afford.
Toyota doesn't make them anymore, and that's the car I
had the gap. Oh, so it's a classic. This is
a rare, rare vehicle. So somebody's fancy and it doesn't

(17:53):
sound like the guy who doesn't even have an off
roading vehicle. All right, what about that? The sympathetic moment
when Miley Cyrus very rudely asked me to stop spreading
rumors that she has split personalities? That now, that clearly

(18:13):
that clearly UH defines a villain Miley and a hero. Me.
I'm I'm clearly the hero in that situation, UH, going
up against a big, bad, UH villain who was very
rude when she asked me to stop spreading rumors about her.
She was every she was in her right, just asked
me to stop doing that. I know that she has

(18:35):
a song called Wrecking Ball, but she doesn't need you
swinging in destroying her life or her the reputation that
she has built. I mean, Miley is an American treasure, okay,
much like like she's very much much like much like me,
the American treasure. You don't know nothing, not the first

(18:55):
thing about an American trudge. You don't know anything about
an Americans rider. Get they are, get get get out,
get out. You want to Dracolo milk? You want to
Dracolo milk? Yes, all right, you're not getting it, but
just get out, son of a bit. After that private
meeting with the focus group member, I asked Samori how

(19:20):
it went good? Good? It went? It went so so well?
He uh, he liked it. He actually he actually liked it.
Really because watching you talked through the window it it
didn't look like a super positive conversation. Oh well, you know,

(19:44):
he didn't like everything about it. Obviously, nobody's going to
like everything. But for the most part, can I can
I say what you are? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, here
you go. You just throw it away? You just you
just bawled up and and throw it away. Oh what, okay,

(20:06):
it's okay, I can I can get it out? All right?
This south away? Oh oh oh now I'm all right.
I'm all right. You've got to release the real version.
This this is awful, okay, uh yeah really yeah yeah,

(20:27):
yeah yeah yeah. Fine, you see if that's any better.
You think you could do better, We'll see if you
could do better. The next day we brought back the
focus group to review the new version. Oh great, you again, okay,
so what do you think you hated everything about it?
You hate my guts? Still, first and foremost, I appreciate

(20:48):
the chocolate milk fountain that you have outside. I got
a nice song glass. I am ready to go. Put
me in the right spirits for this thing. Yeah, we
changed all that just for you. Oh thank you. All right, So, uh,
what did you think about the mental health expert calling
me an asshole? What do you think about that? I
loved it. I thought it was so on brand, it

(21:09):
was so it made sense. I wanted, honestly, I could
have gone for another thirty five forty seven minutes of it.
I thought it was pretty pretty great. Um, and maybe
feel like, I mean, I felt like in that moment,
I was that expert talking to you telling you how
I felt. I mean, I I just it was a

(21:31):
perfect reflection of what the audience. You know, I assume
everybody else in the audience must must feel too, unbe
fucking livable. Okay, So you're saying that you were totally
fine with him a mental health expert saying that to
call me mentally ill would be an insult to anyone
who's actually suffering with the symptoms of mental illness. You

(21:55):
you you actually you're you're on board with that, because
like he's like he mentioned your whatever, delusions of grandeur
whatever is going on with you is self inflicted. It's
not something that is chemical. It is not something that
is um you know, something that you that was inflicted

(22:17):
upon you by like God or or or anything else
like this is all anything that is happening in your
life that is negative. It's your fault. Wow. So you're
totally cool with me getting fucked up by my own fans,
by my own fans coming on stage and grabbing the
mic from me and putting hands on me. You're totally

(22:37):
okay with that? Yeah? Again, I could have used another
thirty five or forty seven minutes of just that moment.
And in the documentary. Um, the fact that sodomy was
not involved. Um, really the only negative note that I have, UM,
but I loved it. Again, so you do have notes.
So you do have notes, Thank you. Thanks. Well, it's
only really for more of what with what really works,

(22:59):
which was your your fans going up on stage and
fucking you up. You know, wow, wow wow wow. Okay,
Well what about how when I I didn't understand that
you don't use cameras to do a podcast? That's just
plain stupid. I mean I don't, I don't know how
you don't know that, and um, well it's a documentary,
it's a documentary podcast. I don't know what to tell you. Man,

(23:22):
you don't know how the world works. It's changed around
you and you have not kept up with it. Um.
But again, I I actually liked how ignorant you were
and how humbled you you became once you found out,
um that you don't know shit about anything. And I
wish that you could apply that to your ideology of

(23:44):
in your perspective of the world and how you approach everybody. Um,
I think that you could actually do yourself some good.
What about how how how sad I was when I
found out that SMD doesn't mean so much drip? Okay,
so when when when the guy uh tweeted at me
SMD and I was like, hell, yeah, you know it.

(24:06):
I do it all for the fans, And then later
on I was so sad to find out that it
doesn't mean so much drip at all. You know that
that was the one part of the documentary where I
I can understand where you were coming from. And you know,
depending on the type of STDs may or may not have,
I've never I' just you know, I have friends that

(24:28):
have had STDs and they've had a drip in a
way that he would not um that you know, it's
not complimentary. Um anyway, that's neither here nor there. What
I'm saying is that I I I appreciated that that
actually humanized you for me. And um another moment where

(24:48):
I mean, I don't know if how much is on
the cutting room floor, but a good I don't know,
thirty more minutes of that I could have I really
could have used wow, wow, wow, all right, you're no
help at all. Get out, get get your chocolate milk.
We're turning off the chocolate milk fountain. Get out, Well,
don't turn it off. Where to turn it off? And

(25:10):
get out? How was that? Uh? He was on the fence,
but uh, you know, I think he's leaning towards uh,
this version over the other one. I'm gonna admit it.
I'm gonna admit that he's leaning towards this version. So
let's go with this one. Let's go with this one. Okay.
If it's gonna make me bigger than ever, which it will,

(25:31):
it's gonna make me the biggest thing in the history
of the entire globe of the the United States and
of America in the world. Okay, I'm gonna be the
biggest thing ever. And I don't give a funk that
you didn't like my ship. Okay, so we'll put out
this ship that's your ship, and then they'll eat it
up and then I'll be big. And then I'll be
huge and I can put out my own version and
whatever the funk I want to do. After that lost

(25:53):
everything after releasing the No Holds Barred expose. The backlash
that hit him. Mari was so beer that he lost
his business and all his money to legal fees in
an attempt to fight lawsuits and criminal charges, and that
he was successful in terms of dodging jail time. Ah,

(26:16):
he was able to do that, but he was also
successful in another way. That expose that caused him to
be the opposite of the biggest thing ever actually was
awarded a Peabody in the podcast category. Today, Amri teaches

(26:36):
improv at a community college in Tampa,
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