Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson sit down with Texans star CB Derek Stingley Jr.! Stingley opens up about being one of the NFL’s top corners Plus, Lamar Jackson voted overrated and Joe Burrow fires up Ocho by insisting the Bengals can still make a playoff run.
0:00 - Joe Burrow on Bengals playoff chances15:47 - Lamar Jackson voted overated38:31 - Derek Stingley Jr. joins the show!
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Oh Joe, your quarterback once spoke. Did they hear?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Is Joe Burrow?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
And if the Bengals are.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hey, come on, Joe.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Yeah, you know, our division is wide open. There's a
lot of I think Pittsburgh's five and four at this point.
We play them this week, so you know, everything is
still there in front of us. It's very rare that
our division looks like this, but it does this year,
and so you know, I think we'll be at least
in it until the end. It's fair to say with
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the wild cards that the best path four.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Would be winning the North.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
And I think it would be very difficult for us
to be a wild card team at this point.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Obviously a lot of a lot of football to be played,
but you know, I think that's difficult. I think our
best path would be win the division.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh Joe, Hey, Joe, talk yo talk. And the funny
thing about it is every time I might hear unk, yes, yes,
you unk. You know you talk about the division, the
first thing you do is you talk about you got
damn Ravens being able to come back after they got
to talk about the Ravens. Go listen, that's the chance
that we're gonna win it. Why would you think that?
Why would you think the Ravens will come back and
winning before the Bengals do?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Why?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Because our defense is bad? I mean, I'm asking, is
it because our defense is bad?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Oh so I'm saying, y'all had one good game, y'all
play defensive all of a sudden, y'all all world, y'all, y'all,
y'all back and have the best chance in all.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Their defense is better than yours.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Right, you know, I like that you did that their defenses,
but it's still still bad.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
But the only thing that's wide open is the booking
window for those vacations. Joe Burrow need the book. They say,
if you book your they say for domestic travel, the
best time is thirty eight days before you actually fly
one hundred days international.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So Joe, the.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Way I'm calculating, your season gonna be over probably the
first week in January.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
So you can let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Hey, let me tell you something. One thing you one
thing you don't want to do is when when my
quarterback say something, When a quarterback with that kind of
confidence that's coming off surgery, a toe surgery, he says,
we have a chance, and our chance at winning division
is not not being a wild card, not being a
wild card, but winning the division. You listen to that,
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You stand on that when he say that, because he
will come back and prove you wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
First of all, they put man on the moon, so
anything is possible.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I don't even I don't even know if that was real.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
That was the guy and just right here.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
What he said was a I I'm glad you if
you think, if you think y'all go win the division,
the Ravens are winning that division.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Hold on the quarter the quarterback, our quarterback said that
the chance we can win the division because it hasn't
been clear as this this season, it looks a little different.
He is up in there all the time. Hey, we
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have a chance because our offense is phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Y'all.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Father behind in the Cowboys. You know what we're uh
we put we got it on screen right now. The
playoffs will be Indy number one seed eight and two,
Broncos eight and two to two seed New England eight
and two, three seed Pittsburgh five and four, the Chargers
seventy three, Buffalo sixty three, Jacksonville UH five and four,
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the Chiefs out of the playoffs at five and four, Houston,
Texas four and five, Baltimore four and five, Bengals three
and six, Miami three and seven. Hey, Pittsburgh is stopped
a mud holding, y'all. They got Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh, right.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, Hey, let me let me ask you something. We
got Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh, and when and when we win,
what you're gonna have to say? What you're gonna have
to say?
Speaker 6 (03:59):
Son?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
When we oh yeah, yeah, oh, y'all got Pittsburgh, New
England and the Ravens oh.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
In three is over?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Hey, Hey, we might we might throw for two hundred
and twenty five hundred yards in the next games. The
next three game, we might throw for twenty five hundred
yards a forty points a game.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
If you cook, you like cook barbecue, right, everybody mine?
When you cook barbecue, slow and low. So guess what
slow in low? The next three games, I'm gonna put
y'all in the others at two point fifty and I'm
gonna let.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Y'all cook.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
At two fifty with a.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
When that thing hit in three weeks, good night, I ring.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I want you to keep that same energy when we
get on here Sunday.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
You hear me.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I want you to keep that same energy when we
get on the show Sunday after we beats the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
They gonna get right on, y'all, Get right on, y'all.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
All right, you're gonna remember, you, you what happened to
them getting right the last time you played?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
What happened?
Speaker 5 (05:12):
A little temporary sent back? Y'all won thirty three thirty
thirty three, thirty one. But you want to win this week?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Hey? And then what happened next week? Thirty nine, thirty.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Eight lost to the Jets, forty two, forty two, forty seven,
forty two, lost to the Bears. Buy the lose to
the Steelers, go lose to the Patriots, go lose to
the Ravens. You know what, ain't gonna lose to the Bills.
Ain't gonna lose to the Ravens again, And then y'all
might be in the Browns.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
And the Dolphins. Late, like the words of Tabars, too late.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Sound good? Hey, you got a whole lot of energy,
You got a you got a whole lot of energy.
By the but listen, you think you think we don't
have a chance, Look who's trying.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Boy?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I can't I can't wait a Sunday.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I love it when the player come together play. What
was the plan the player? The playoffs? Y'all? Not two
years to row back to back?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Oh listen, hey Brown, two years back to back and
and home and after the first after the first round.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Hey, you you need me to get your ticket to
a Bronco playoff game because I can.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Do that for you.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
No, No, because there's a chance I'm gonna have something.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Won't have nothing in Cincinnati, my quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
If my quarterback said we're gonna win the division, I'm
standing on business on what he said, I'm taking him.
I'm taking his word for it.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Uh, you said that last year, sure we were going
to the playoffs. That's how you owe me fifty No.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It ain't. Oh bet betton games about the season? I
got you. I got you.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Hey, when y'all losing next three at Steelers lost, Patriots lost,
Ravens lost, Bill's lost Ravens. The next five games, y'all
won't win. If y'all win one game, y'all might win one,
but you won't win more than one game or the
next vote. Hey, I bet your golden door knob to
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a bucket. The Carmineur and I'll let you put up
the carbineur. I bet you a five pound bucket a carbineur,
and I would put up a golden door knob.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I love your confidence. I love your confidence, and I
love the fact that you don't have confidence in my team.
With my team and my quarterback who just came back
from surgery. He will be He'll be back.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
In is he playing all? I know, lost for eighteen
He'll be back.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
He'll be eighty three, lost, thirty seven, twenty four lost
twenty seven, eighteen one, thirty three, thirty one, lost, thirty nine,
thirty eight loss, forty seven, forty.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Two, about to lose again. He'll be back into a weeg.
Actually can't come back for three weeks, but anyway.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Okay, three weeks man either way, either way, Flacco was
carrying the helm. Flacco was steering the ship, and he's
staying it very well.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Ice Bird now will be a star.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
What we need to do, Hey, we need them pirates on.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You hear that alert, You ain't a hearing to it.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Everybody can see that big iceberg except you and your bingos.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Don't worry about it. Hey, keep that same energy with
this Sunday when we win I want, hey, I want
your apology to be just as loud as the disrespect you.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Lost to the Jets. Y'all lost.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Y'all lost to the just y'all lost to a quarterback
that threw for fifty four yards. He's had two games
and what you's thrown for less than one hundred yards.
Y'all lost to that team.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Hey, you know what, y'all almost lost to him too.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Wh whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Y'all almost. But you see here boasting like y'all were,
y'all playing in you y'all was any better? Y'all wasn't
no better either. Eight and two is better than three
and seven. If y'all won three games, we did.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Two three, y'all just won three games.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah, what does this mean? Talking about right? We're gonna
be all right? But when we get in the playoffs,
what you're gonna do that when that playoffs come, that
regular season record don't really matter. It's a new season.
Let's start over, because this one is one and done.
One game you go home. Which football team plays the
best on that specific day is all that comes down.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Y'all haven't played better than any other team, but except
three times in ten games.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, that's regular season, now.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Y'all good? Well, y'all not going to no playoffs?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
All right?
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Hold y'all allergic to the playoffs. I got some Ben adrill.
I'm bringing you Ben a drill because I know you're
about to have a lout reaction. The Broncos are the
longest winning streak in a decade, despite an offense that
has struggled the Munster only ten points. Despite the Broncos
being eight and two, the vibes have been low on
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the offenser side of the ball, and JK. Dobbins, the
Broncos running back, expressed his frustrations. Excuse me, chat, Yeah cool,
we're eating too, But the defense is winning us these games.
We're not helping them. We're not doing them any justice.
I feel bad the way we play on offense and
the way they play on defense, because they're doing such
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a great and we're doing so bad. It just sucks
because they are out there, so many players playing their
butts off. We can't keep doing this to them. Thursday,
with the fourth time this season in which the Broncos
had at least ten accepted penalties called against them, finishing
with eleven pen for seventy eight yards. Eight of those
infractions came on the offense. The Broncos are the second
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most penalized offense in the league, having been called for
fifty two penalties, including decline penalties. Hey, you said we
clean that up out yoe and walk off the coast
beat us on the walk off. The Chargers beat us
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on the walk Offah, y'all just getting walked over?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Hold on, hold on.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Eight teams that are better than y'all. Beat y'all, you understand, right,
Teams that are better than y'all.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Beat y'all. Yeah, the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
The Chargers offensively, they're better than you and your defense
wasn't able to come that.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
They kicked the fifty yard walk off field goal. O yoe?
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Yeah, Oh so the Jets. So the Jets are better
than y'all. Okay, glad you said that, just better than
the Jests are better than the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Why would you say that?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Walk you down?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Oh so the Broncos are better than you all, twenty
eight to three. No, the Vikings are better than you
all forty eight to ten.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Huh, Wow, I can ask you a question. You really
think that.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I know that. I don't think I know that.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
All I got to say is my quarterback A fifty
seven days after surgery, he stood in front of the
media and said, we're going to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Oho the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Even if he didn't exactly say it, his tone, his
mannerisms let me know we're going and that's all I
that's all I can go off of. So if he
said it, we're gone. No matter what you say, no
matter who we lost to in the past, go.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
Lose Sunday to who the Steelers? You really think we're
gonna lose it? The Steelers after that performance, they put
up man please TJ. Watt hot Smith.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
They probably have about they have three and a half,
at least three and a half Folk sacks.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Can buy it.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
They didn't have that in the first one.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
They'll get it this one.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
TJ Whte didn't get it. T J WHTE didn't get
a second. Last time they played the Bengals into the
fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Then garbage time. Well they talking about that's what you did.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
You get garbage when you play garbage teams, what you
expect them to get.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I like I like I like that, and I like
that I like that I like it. Keep that same
minute your day coming o Joe, oh oh Joe.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
After random drug test two weeks ago, doctor discovered that
Broncos linebacker Alex Singington Singleton had to stick your cancer
tumor that been removed today after Dever defeated the Raiders
on Thursday Night football. The problems is excellent for me
and my family, singing toil the announced today for Broncos fan,
I fully expect to return to the field very soon.
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Routine tests, bro, That's what I'm saying. Man, y'all gonna
get the tests. Yeah, that's dope. Hey, all these high
ass premiums. I'm gonna get my moneys worth. Yeah, I'm
getting my money work. I go up there, Man, ain't
nothing wrong with you? Well, I'm gonna let him tell
me that. You ain't telling me that you ain't got
no medical degree at all. So I'm gonna let the
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Dodland that with the school for all this tell me
ain't nothing wrong with me.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
And I'm gonna let them scams.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
I'm gonna get m I'm gonna get CT scans, get
I'm gonna get all kind of all kind of scams.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I want to know. I don't want to know anything.
Everything possible.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
I'm getting everything. I'm gonna get high ass premiums. I'm
gonna get it. I'm gonna get my money work.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, that's dope as live.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Well.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
I'm glad they were able to catch this. Alex Man,
prayers up for you and your family. Hey, early detection
is the key. So if possible, Guys, go get checked out. Women,
go get your mammograms, go get your things, Go get
your you know, your physical your routines.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Hey, some don't feel right, it's not in your head.
Just go check out.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Let the doctors tell you, let them them scans tell
you something's not right. Let's tell you something you know.
You'll find everything checks out. Just think about it. Like
I said, a lot of some of these cancers are
are you know, you can't prevent them, but detected earlier enough,
they're treatable.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, kudos to Alex. Good job, Broncos.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Bleacher Report ranks his five most overrated quarterback. They named
Lamar Jackson as the most overrated quarterback in the NFL,
said he may not just be one today's most overrated
active quarterbacks, but also of all time. His two time
MVP status is borderline fraudulent. His credentials don't measure up
to other leisureers who've won the award on numerous occasions.
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Of the ten players that have joined multiple MVP clubs
during the Super Bowl era, Jackson is the lone member
without a Super Bowl ring. All The others on that
list include Johnny Uniteds, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady,
Brett Farv, Joe Montano, Steve Young, Kurt Warner, Patrick Mahomes
were able to take their team to multiple Super Bowl
appearances and one at least once.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Jackson has yet to even reach the Big Game.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
He's three and five lifetime in playoffs and has a
three seventy five postseason winning percentage that stands far away
the worst among multiple MVP winners. First of all, Steve
Young did not take no team to multiple MVPs. He
was a backup. He took his team to one Super
Bowl and he did win it. That was in nineteen
ninety for he threw six touchdowns in Miami to beat
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the Chargers. So let's let's yeah, I'd like to give context.
Steve Young did not go to multiple Super Bowls.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Now.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Also, if I'm not mistaken. I think Earl Morrill didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Earl Moris start one of those Super Bowl for.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
The Colts, or you had a two Johnny United std
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to Earl Yeah, Miami, Yeah, Johnny. Johnny went to two
UH Coats, went went to two Super Bowls. I know
they beat the Cowboys on the field.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Who Johnny? Yeah, Okay, okay, look I get it.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Yes, And and oh Joe, we talked about this. This
is the the albatross. This is the elephant in the room.
You see the names that are on this list that
have won multiple MVPs. Lamar is the only one that
hasn't been to a Super Bowl. That's not to say,
oh Joe's career is not ending tomorrow, but everybody jumped
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on me when I said his career will be looked
at as a disappointment if he doesn't get to a
super Bowl considering what he had accomplished.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
You based it on what these other guys. See.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
You can't just look, well, he wont two MVPs. You
gotta look at the company that he's in. That's one
two MVPs. Now you start looking at it, you're like, well, damn,
he has to get the one.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Aaron Rodgers went to one.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
He has to get to at least one, and then
we look at him totally different. He gets the one
and he wins it, we look at him differently.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Oh Joe, we just do yeah, absolutely, But yeah, listen,
I understand the company to keep the fact that he's
won two MVPs, the fact that he's one of those MVPs,
those that are in the chat, that are listening, that
are watching, you have to understand that he's in a
different cles, in the class of his own, in a
different class for that matter. So when it comes to
judging him, he judged based off his his what he's
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not cam Padre's what's the world I'm looking for?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Period?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
And the company his peers. He judged based on his
other peers that have won MVP's as well, and most
of them, if not all, have been to a Super Bowl,
whether they won a Super Bowl or not, So he
judg off of that. But the whole overrated part is
the part I don't like. That's the part I don't
like saying that he's overrated because he hadn't gotten there
yet when he's still playing and only a seventh maybe
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eighth year, I'm not sure. Which one it is.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
It's ridiculous that was nothing about Lamar's first year.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, okay, but but nothing about Lamar Jackson and what
he brings to the table, what he brings to the NFL,
what he bring to the Baltimore Ravens in general, and
giving them a chance and having him a contention every
goddamn year. Nothing about that is overrated. That's the part
I don't like. Now that is more to me, it's
more clickbait. There should be a different title when it
comes to talk about the quarterbacks that have won MVP's
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and have been or won a Super Bowl. That the
title should be goddamned different, overrated, My goddamn mad Now
that that's a bunch of bullshit.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Le mask your question. But when you looking at him,
help you. But here's the thing they're not seeing. You're
looking at him against his peers. They're looking at him
against his peers that have won two MVPs. So when
you look at him, look at the class that he's in.
You compare him to my home boy two MVPs, five
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super Bowl appearances, three wins. You're looking at Peyton Manning
five MVPs, three super Bowl appearances, two wins. You look
at at Tom Brake, move on, you look at Yeah,
you looking at us a brand fall.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
How about how about this? Everybody on that list, everybody
on the list except one person, is already done and
not playing any correct, everybody on our list is done
and not playing. So how about we wait until he's
done playing, and then we justify whether he belongs in
that company or not, or whether he's overrated or not.
And even if he doesn't go to a goddamn super Bowl,
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what he's going to continue to do the resume that
he's gonna put together whether he wins three more MVPs
and doesn't make a goddamn super Bowl or not, nothing
about Lamar Jackson is overrated. I know the fact that
the way we judge quarterbacks is based on wins and
losses and rings and hardware and all that, But when
it comes down to the nitty gritty, when you're talking
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to people that played the game, forget the forget the media,
forget the pundits, forget those that never played the game.
Nothing about young bull out of goddamned Pompino who played
for Boy and Beach High School is overrated. Whether he
has a goddamn ring or not, he will still go
down as one of the best, the best quarterbacks that
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ever play this goddamn game. How do we judge Daan Marino?
Do we say, Damn Marino is not winning the greats?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Because here's the thing, Jo g r e A T great.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Now if we add the s T one of the
great tests, that's what he's going for. You see you
saying something very interesting and this is and this is
actually true. Only quarterbacks get measured by wins and Super
Bowl no other, no other position.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Super Bowls matter, Okay, right.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Not like they do for a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Because even when when Brady wasn't putting up numbers like Peyton,
they said he was better than Manning because what did
he have that Manning didn't championships? Think about it, now,
Peyton Manning had won multiple multiple MVPs, Brady had three
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Super Bowls. Manning had three regular season MVP They say, well,
Brady's best because Brady has As you was pointing to
your fingers, that's how they I don't sit the rules.
You see what happened with ring culture. You see what
is it done? It'll make people jump around and go
try to find the best situation where they can win
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a ring and then they shut you up, and it's like, Okay,
I've already done what I needed to do.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Now no more argument and no more argument at that point,
Especially when it comes to basketball, you have those that
that that have to chase the ring because of ring
culture in the rules, the unwritten rules. Matter of fact,
how about that the unwritten rules, because who the hell
came up with it?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Who the hell don't know?
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Because they were saying, they were saying Jordan was better
than Magic, and Magic had five rings. They were saying,
but Jordan was better than Bird, and Bird had three
m vps in three rings.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
He had.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
He's the last guy to win three consecutive MVPs. You
gotta go all the way back to Wilt. So what
has happened is that now I give you another one.
The next couple of years, people gonna say Schelle way
A Tani is the best, greatest bestball player we've ever seen.
He's got four m vps. He's got him unanimously. He's
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got two Super Bowl he got two World Series wings.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
O Joe.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
He had one of the great postseason performers where he
struck out ten and hit three home runs. Now he
messed around and get another one and win another World Series?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Who we who? What? We who? What we gonna compare
him to because we four m vps.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Unanimously, Yeah, that's that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
So you see, once you start and Barry bars was
so great. Even everybody that played against him said, that
is the greatest player that I've ever seen. Greg Maddick said, well,
it was it really easy to pick the Barry if
it mattered you walked him. He said, his job was
to get twenty seven hours. You don't get them on him,
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So pick the other eight guys to get and figure
and figure it out. So when you look at it,
I get Look, it's hard to say a man a
man like Lamar and maybe you're right, maybe overrated is
a harsh turn. But I think if we they're looking,
they're looking at him as the ten guys that have
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something that no other guys have, and that is think
about the NFL.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
He long has been going on, hold.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
On, stay with me, stay with me real quick.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Now.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
So if we if we talk about hard yet right
and hardware, hardware puts quarterbacks in a different in different
in a different year where we're just great greatst. So
are we saying, like Ben Rothslisberger belongs in that tier two?
Are we saying Russell Wilson also belongs in that tier two?
When we talk about quarterbacks that are the greatst because
they no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
No no no no no no no no no no
no no no. But here's the thing, oh Joe, none
of these none of those guys have regular season MVPs.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Okay, oh so there there's there.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Okay, there there, there's there.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
So we can't we can't, we can't move.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Let me ask your question. Has anybody ever said Ben
Roethlisberger was greater than Tom Brady, Peyton Manning. No, So
when you so, when you look at it, and so
when you when you look at it, you have to
have regular season m vps. That does matter. Now when
you when you start getting postseason m vps, that means
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you won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
See you see.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Brady Brady Brady has three regular season MVPs. He has
seven Super Bowls and five Super Bowl MVPs. So no
matter what criteria you use, it's gonna be hard for
somebody to overtake him. Unless my homeboy gets five MVPs.
It's let's just say, for the sake of art, we
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have a compelling case. If my homeboy Mahon boys not
even thirty. I think he just turned thirty, yes, so,
and and the thing he just turned thirty. So when
you look at it, Ohoe, I think that is the
thing they're they're comparing him in this elite category. Elite,
which is guys that have won multiple MVPs.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Think it ain't that many quarterbacks. That's one, two, what
is it?
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Uninas, Manning, Rogers, Brady farre Montana, Young Warner, Mahomes, it's nine,
Lamar makes ten.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, he's the only one that's never been to a
super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
Now, if he doesn't get to a super Bowl, what
are they gonna say, Oh, Joe, To be honest, you
know what they're gonna say.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. We we know
what they gonna say. We know what they're gonna say.
But I listen, huh, I know what they're gonna say.
But I know what My eyes haven't seen all he
is I've seen.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Let me do you one better.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
H They say, guys that got super Bowl rings at
the receiver position better than Ocho because Ocho ain't got
no rings. But you run circles around them on the field.
You see how they did. See how they did you
see you see.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
How they did that?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yeah, I got you, I got listen, I'm with you
when you're right now, I'm picking.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Up what you say. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
So now, so just imagine they do that for the receipt.
So imagine if a quarterback and that's what I said.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Oh yeah, it's even, it's even. It's even worse. It's
even worse.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Now.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I hate that it's like that. I hate that it's
like that. It's it's somewhat of an unwritten rule, just
like the unrul of hockey when it comes to fighting,
just like the unwritten roll, unwritten rule in baseball. Like
I understand it. I hate that it's like that hey
ring culture when it comes to talking basketball. It matters nobody,
it just does it. But that that's just the way
it is. But I mean, it is what it is.
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I think I think with the way obviously they didn't
they didn't. They didn't have a good year, a good
start through the year. They obviously the Ravens oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
I think they're gonna win the division. I think they're
going to get They're gonna.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Get a home game. Whoa whoak, they're gonna win.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I don't know about the division.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
So what about? So what you think? What you think
we're gonna do?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
So you can do nothing?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Hold on, hold on, I'll tell you what I know.
I'll tell you what. I'm very serious to night. I'm
very serious to night. But I'll tell you this. I
will give you guys a division if we lose to
the Steelers, which I doubt we do. If we lose
to the Steelers, I say, you guys are probably going
to win the division at that point. But if we
go in there and we beat the Steelers, that momentum,
I tell you, I tell you what, that momentum the
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rest of the season is gonna be held. I don't
I don't give two you know what to drop the
dried up pigeon, you know what on concrete? How bad
our defense is that momentum? Offensively? Man, man, listen, man,
I don't know. It's gonna be tough. Now we if
we lose to the Steelers, I mean, that's it. It's
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a rap.
Speaker 8 (30:12):
Oh yeah for sure, I mean our season yeah. And
so that's that's that's the thing, because you know, you
look at Lamar and it's it's tough because in his era, uh,
he got my homes.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
There are a lot of quarters.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
There are a lot of people that's gonna get overlooked,
just like they got overlooked. Ben didn't get the credit
he deserves. Drew Brees didn't get the credit that they
deserve because why they played in the era with Smack Dad,
with Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
And you're talking about guys that got.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Eight regular season MVPs and ten no, hell no, Tom
Tom is nine and twelve Super Bowl appearances with nine wins.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah, God, that's crazy, man.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
And it's you know, it's so funny too, is we've
been spoiled. We've been spoiled, whether the Peyton Mannings and
and then the Tom Brady's and the Patrick Mahomes and
the Joe montann And people don't understand how difficult that
Aaron Rodgers the breadthat they don't understand bren roths all
these quarterbacks and it's thirty two teams. It's thirty two
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teams and it's only a handful of quarterbacks in each
hand Yeah, almost over thirty years that are our tier
one quarterback. Yeah, that just lets people know how difficult
that position is and how special those are. That in
those conversations that we're talking about, and the fact that
Lamar's name is in those conversations and winning to MVPs
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and those unwritten rules kind of give you like augh,
He's not really there yet until he does this. So
he got he got to get there. I'm not sure
when it's gonna happen, but it's gonna happen before his career.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Yes, my bad. Tom has ten Super Bowl appearances. God damn,
he has ten.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Oh that's crick.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Lost to Eli twice and lost to a Nick Foles.
Yes on the trick, Yeah, yeah, the Philly Special. Yeah,
oh Joe. Now here's the next five that had Lamar
number one, had Jordan Love number two, Justin Herbert, number three,
Dak Prescott, number four, Trevor Lawrence number five. Now, Trevor
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Lawrence need to be what Lamar is. I will put
Lamar down there. If you gonna put them, you're gonna
put Lamar on his list. I'm gonna put him down
at five, right man, Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence, Man, I
don't think Justin Herbert is overrated. Let's see now that
he has Jim Harbaugh, the one thing we.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Know about Jim Harbor. Yeah, he's gonna win. Mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
They're gonna play like stand our defense and he gets
he gonna get to a super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I'm not gonna say it's gonna beat this year.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah, but he definitely definitely gonna get.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
He getting there.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And listen and the way Justin Herbert is playing this
year too. Man, Justin Herbert is throwing at.
Speaker 9 (33:23):
Absolutely hey, Quentin john It is Quentin Johnston, Quinston, Quentin Johnston,
m h Man, Young Bull, Young Bull got his confidence
playing extremely well.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
That Darius McConkey playing extremely well, Keenan Allen, that veteran
presence in that locker room playing extremely well.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
So they're really are.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
I forgot about Rondie Gass in the second catching the
hell of that ball, being a Marion Hampton. I think
he's coming back. He's coming back on the back on
the back end of the season. I think he. I
think he's gonna be back off injury. They're gonna make
a nice little run. They're gonna make a nice.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Absolutely will uh George Love, George Love's he gonna have
to get better. Man, George Love's gonna have to be better.
I don't know if somebody hasn't got in his ear
and talking about Bro, you got to push the ball
down the field.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Man. You make too much money.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
You make too much money to be to be missing
these throws like and I'm not saying you're gonna make
every You're not gonna make every throw.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I get that, I understand.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
And I'm not trying to minimize playing that position because
that's a position I couldn't play very difficult. But come on, bro,
that's why they play. The more you get paid, the
more expected, the more expectation, and a bird that.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Is placed on you, that's just that's just the rules
of engagement.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Hey, can you imagine? Can you imagine being responsible not
only for a team, but playing the most important position
on the field. The ball is in your hands. The
most they paying you fifty fifty five million dollars a year.
Matter of fact, forget a year, they paying you fifty
to fifty five million dollars in six months, six months.
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And I need I need you to carry this franchise.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Man.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
You talk talk about pressure. I know, it's a game
of football. It's what we've all done since we were
four years old. But man, man, yeah, but look, I'm
with you, o Jo. I believe Labron Jackson is going
to get to a super Bowl, and once he gets
there and he wins it, it's over. Hey, get that monk,
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get that monkey off my back so I can go
play freely. Please, thank you?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
You see, think about it.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
I get a prime example, Lebron James had two MVPs,
but he had never hadn't gotten to the finals. He
had two, lost two, and then all of a sudden
he he won, got that monkey off his back. Yeah,
of you miss right, and let Lamar get the thing,
get the monkey off his back. He might get the
mike double you up, go back to back.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Jack Yeah, Hey, I got one question too, now that
we're talking about those hundred rules, especially in these conversations
when it comes to quarterbacks and MVPs. Was it was
just on my Well, well, it's kind of different because
Jayla Hurst. Jayla Hurst has a Super Bowl MVP and
a ring, so he's not in that conversation.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Correct, These are only these are the only guys in
the Super Bowl that had at least too regularly than
the MVPs.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Right, Okay, okay, there are nine guys.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Lamar makes the tenth.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Lamar is the only one that hasn't appeared any Super Bowl, right, Okay,
And I think about it, Peyton Manning never went back
to back. Tom and Tom, Joe and Mahomes are the
only ones to go back to back.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Of the group that.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Peyton didn't go to back to back Super Bowls. Yeah,
Kurt didn't. Kurt went ninety nine, we won two thousand.
They went in two thousand and one, and then he
went again with Arizona, I think, and what was that
two thousand and eight. I think it was two thousand
and eight, because two thousand and nine was New Orleans,
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two thousand what you call them, because seven was the Giants,
eight was the Steelers, nine, nine was yeah, nine was
New Orleans. Ten was the Giants again, yeah, eleven was
the Packers. Yeah mm hmm, yeah, eleven was the Packers.
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Twelve with the Seahawks. All right, Oh my man, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, I'm just I was just you know, just
just going. But like I said, oh Yoe, once he
gets that monkey off his back, oh yoe, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, you're gonna be fine. Eight and that that ship hard.
But I'm gonna go cause we've been on this thing.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
About because you know why it's hard, because they say
there's nothing like a game seven. Well, in the NFL,
there's every game is a game seven. Every game, wild
Card game is game seven, Divisional round game seven, Conference
Final game seven, super Bowl game seven.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Football, you play a game seven every.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
Time you step on the field in the playoffs in football.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Matter of fact, four weeks yes, four weeks of game
four weeks of game seven, yes, And you got to
must it up and play your football. You got to
play your best football.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
We got a very special guest joining us. We got
Texans All World cornerback man. You had an unbelievable one
handed interception that really started to come back. They came out,
came back from nineteen down in the fourth quarter to
win the ball game against the Jacksonville Jaguars, a division opponent.
Harry is a Pro Bowler all Pro three picks this season,
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including one of gain is Trevor Lawrence. Harry is Derek
Stingley Junior sting what's going on, bro? Thank you for
joinings Man. We really really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Go ahead on, Joe, what's good.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Is good.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Okay, I like that energy. I like that energy.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I see you in the off season.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, bro, watching you play. And I think
the thing is about any great corner, the one thing
that they all have is patient. They ain't really biting
that first move. Look, bro, all that head stuff. Let
me ask you a question. What are you looking at?
You looking at his breastplate? You're looking at his hips
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because all this head doing all this and all that
right there, and these hips still coming straight at me.
So what when you when you lock in and you're
playing press coverage, what are you watching?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
I'm looking more at the like mid thigh, the back leg.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Okay, so like I started low.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
So then when your eyes go up a little bit,
hips and try to stay in that range right there.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
So yeah, how did you How did you learn to
be patient?
Speaker 5 (40:07):
Because a lot of times, you know, these receivers are
really good at round running, getting in and out of breaks.
And I think the thing is that you can't be overreactive,
always biting the first move. Now, you know, sometimes they
sometimes they really are running a go and sometimes they're
gonna run, you know, they trying to run you off
and do this comeback or do this.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Dig or do this overrop. So so how are you playing?
Speaker 5 (40:27):
I mean, obviously you study tape, you see formation, You're like, okay,
you think y'all slip. Y'all think y'all got a three
by one. You think you're gonna fool me with this
click here?
Speaker 6 (40:35):
Yeah, I mean it's really because I mean I'm also fast,
know what, I feel like people don't think that that I'm.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Fast, but like they don't think you're fast.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
But I can run with pretty much anybody, So knowing
that in my mind, like you're not gonna run away
from me, So I played like low Hill most of
the time I can. And we get down the field
of quarterback. You know, all quarterba don't throw accurate beat passes,
so you know, I can look back at a certain
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time knowing that the ball sometimes will be underthrown or
inside or something like that. Then it's just make a
playoff of that, and.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
You know you ain't gonna have much time to throw it.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Y'all got those two edge guys coming off the edge,
so you like, hey, I ain't got to I ain't
got along.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
Yeah, and that's every snap like they they and it's
not even just them, like it's the whole like the interior.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Like they you got rankings.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
You got those guys they pushing up the middle, and
then you got the two on the outside and they all rotate,
so like we got three people deep in every position
on the D line, so every snap.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
But you want, you wanted a few obviously, I'm I'm
an enthusiast when it comes to you know, some of
the better dB just dB play in general, you know,
and and and being able to watch y'all and then
study a game and study how you guys play. You
have tremendous patients. You have tremendous patients similar to to
to to like the real ReBs in a sense, you're
very good and bump and run up watching film. You
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can tell you watch film a lot, and you understand
the tendencies and and and what's coming and what's not.
And your ball skills is second and none. Your ball
skills is a second or none because you're one of
the few few dbs that when when the ball is
in the air, you actually look back for it and
you don't panic most of the time. You you already
know most of the time. Everybody always panic once the
ball in the air and what's the first thing you do?
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You pull your tug and you get a flag throw.
But your ball skills, man, is elite.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
I haven't had a chance to give you your flowers,
but just now I got a chance to. But you
wanted the best. You know, we talk about top two.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Uh, you right up there.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
So it depends on on on who you who you
like based on preferences. And you and brother brother Pete
two died.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
In and I appreciate you, man, I appreciate.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
That a d steam.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
What's up, bro?
Speaker 10 (42:56):
Hey tell me some what have you learned from you know,
your father, your grandfather, coaching and mentorship, you know, as
you came into this league, what what what have they
charged you kind of growing up?
Speaker 6 (43:07):
Well, my dad so you know, he well he coached
in the Arena Football League for a long time.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
He played in Arena. Uh.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
And since I was a little kid, like as far
back as I can remember, h I'm doing dB drills
with like his player and like with full pass on
as a little kid, or or like running routes against
his dvs as a little kid, like double moves or
you know whatever like that. So being in that type
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of environment, it kind of taught me, for one, like
the brotherhood that goes along with a with a.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Football team, because one they was, they was.
Speaker 6 (43:48):
I guess you could say like they was those older
figures that I saw as like superstars. Like it was
just like a like a family environment. And so they
taught me brotherhood. And then and then like seeing them
go out there and play all together, knowing that they
was close like off the field on whether that was
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dealing with me or you know, doing their own thing
or whatever. And then from my dad like well, and
then and then adding on to that, like my dad
he taught me how to deal with like energy levels
on the on the field, so you know, you know.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Big talker, he tried to get your hands thing.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah, you know, like he'll talk and he'll do all that.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
But me personally, like if I make a good player,
like you probably won't see me doing anything like like
whether if it's like PBu or something like that, like
I'll just walk off because for when.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
I be tired, so like I don't do that.
Speaker 6 (44:51):
And then like and something if something is too bad,
then you know, like it's on to the next play.
And I feel like as as a defensive player, like
that's that's just how you gotta live life and well.
And it's really like that for offense too, like like
a receiver tight end, like like you dropped the ball.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Like drop a pass. You gotta move that, like you.
Speaker 6 (45:11):
Can't think about it because then you start thinking about
kissing the football, You're gonna keep on dropping the rest
of them. Oh you know, like stuff like that, like
just regulating emotions and you know, still playing with a
passion and being fierced with it.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
But everybody don't need to.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
Know that, Like like you, if you want to try
to play me on the field, I just show you
by just playing the game.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Like I don't. I don't need to talk because I
don't know how to talk.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
I said, you don't talk.
Speaker 5 (45:41):
So if somebody started, yeah, but oh yeah, I'm about
to get this one to day. I'm about to get
me a hundred today. Got to get me a boy,
a couple of tubs on me.
Speaker 6 (45:48):
I'll probably just look, well because I don't know how
to talk trash talk, so like I'll just look and
I'll either laugh or I'll just be like okay, all right, Like.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Hey, hey Joe, I'm gonna get it out of yo.
Speaker 5 (46:04):
I'm gonna get like this, man, what you're doing. So
you're about to smell the older. That's what I'm doing.
Don't worry about a d C telling y'all love. That's
gonna motivate And he ain't gotta say that.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah, but it's a quiet confidence, bro, it's not.
Speaker 6 (46:22):
It doesn't matter who it is. Like like your like,
I know you. You say that you will be able
to get me to talk on the field, But I
honestly would look at you crazy, and you're gonna be
like what, like it's something wrong with him?
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Like like why is he not? No?
Speaker 3 (46:37):
No, no, no, I'm gonna give that work. I listen,
I'm not gonna talk on the field. I'm gonna talk
during the play. I'm gonna talk during the route like
I'm different.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Thing like I'm different.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Gotta let it know you, we gotta let you know thing. Hey,
the whole time, you got two quiet dudes versus two
talkers that burst that burst.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Out hey a sting. Hey, you know they hit you
with it every time I catch it fall in me
hitting with their own thing.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't Hey, that on effect.
I don't do that, so that on effect, you.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
Know, you're right right, I'm.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Saying like you don't.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
My mind is like this is a seal like just
I don't know cage or what like.
Speaker 5 (47:23):
Yeah, when I tell you what y'all do, do you
let when you got the interception, y'all ran to the
end zone.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
So I give me a touchdown. I'm calling on my teammate.
Come on, let's yo, let go.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, stink a stink.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
You know you know whose thing remind me of to
Hunk And that's the way you carry yourself. And he's
always always even killed no matter what. It's really hard
to get him out of character. Andre Johnson, Yeah, exactly
the same.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Don't talk, I don't say nothing.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
Yeah at all at all.
Speaker 5 (47:53):
Who let me ask you a question, who do you kind
of pattern your game after? Because you, I mean like
you kind of built like like Reavers. But I mean
there's Charles Woodson, there's Rod Woodson, There's Time, There's Reevers,
there's Darryl Green, there's a Nils Wiim. There's been a
lot of great corners. Like, so did you study feel
when you watch it? Like, Okay, this is the direction
I'm going in, and I think this is what I'm
gonna be at in college is what I'm gonna be
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at the next level.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Who do you kind of patter of your game after?
Speaker 5 (48:18):
Is there any similarities that you see between yourself and
anybody that I mentioned?
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Maybe somebody did.
Speaker 6 (48:22):
Yeah, nobody that you mentioned. But I've always it's always
been Timp Bailey for me or Okay, he is always
the you know, he get the ball, he's locked down,
he's interchangeable. If he need to go play somewhere else,
like in a different positions, he can do it, like
just because he know the know the defenses or no football.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah, age has always been any twenty four like that.
Speaker 6 (48:44):
Yeah, that's he's always been the first.
Speaker 5 (48:48):
So you like you like because I measure corners and
then it's not a knock on the corners that don't.
But I like to see you get frequentlying miles. I
like to see you travel travel. I mean, if you've
got a bad dude and he normally hear the acts,
I'm gonna yeah, if he is, I'm falling there. If
he in the slot, I'm a fall in there. If
he in the backfield, I'm lining up the linebacker. Wherever
you go.
Speaker 6 (49:08):
Just yeah, I mean, and that that's a that's a
part of it, Like like that's a that's a mindset,
like I just want to cover the best.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Like if you're allowed to do it, you're allowed to
do it.
Speaker 6 (49:20):
If you're not allowed to do it, then you know
the people that aren't allowed to do it, I guarantee
they wish that they can do it. Like, so that's
something that you can't knock somebody for.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
I don't no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (49:32):
Some people just like they got their defenses and you
play left, he played right, whatever the case. And that's
how it was with Revers and Pro Normally, Revers and Crow,
they stayed cro stayed on one side, restayed on the
other side, and so wherever you went, Sherman and when
they were in Seattle, he was on one side and
Brandon Browner was on the other side.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
So let me ask your question.
Speaker 5 (49:53):
You got the big contract, and you know what comes
along with big contracts, even more expectations. You've gone to
the Pro Bowl, you've been in all Pro. What are
the expectations that thing puts on himself down the outside pressure,
what you put on.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yourself, Oh, we're really on myself.
Speaker 6 (50:08):
Like it's more about like like technique, Like it's sometimes
like like, well, we kind of mentioned earlier.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Patients. We were talking about patients, right, so sometimes.
Speaker 6 (50:20):
Well, and then you also said like like kind of
falling for the first move or wanting to react to
the first move, like like yes, like people know, I'm
a patient defensive back at the line of scrimmage, so
I'll get harder moves like first steps thinking that okay, yeah, they're.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Going like you know, it's just a game within the game.
Speaker 6 (50:40):
Oh so I'm harder myself, like trying to make sure
that I'm sticking to to who I am and controlling
controlling the game myself, not being reacted, but like like
you know, like controlling the game. And then another thing
is like, yeah, I got all the pigs the ball skills.
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But like I've said this before, like last year, I
had however manuye, I had like interceptions, I could have
had double that same thing right now, I gotta have
however many I have right now, I should have double that, Like,
and those are the type of things that above me
because I know my Pops is sitting in the stands somewhere.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
It's just like mad, like.
Speaker 6 (51:21):
Like frowning or something, and I can feel them like
like just being mad at me, so but I'm also
mad too, so you know, like those those are the
main things for me because you know, like I know
how to catch a football, so like why am I
not catching the pass on this or or that? Or
why is this person getting like an inch of separation
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when they're when they're not supposed to like like you know,
like stuff like that like normal. I mean I feel
like that's normal, like football whatever.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
Thing.
Speaker 5 (51:53):
Let me ask you this, do you think we're gonna
see somebody Dick Knight train Lane his rookie season he
had I think in nineteen eighty left.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
The Hayes had thirteen picks.
Speaker 5 (52:05):
If we haven't seen anybody, we've seen a ten you
saw we just saw.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
He had eleven?
Speaker 1 (52:10):
Did did Yeah?
Speaker 5 (52:12):
He had ten, And we've seen a lot of teen
Champ Bailey one year had ten, But we really haven't
seen somebody get that twelve thirteen to really challenge that fourteen.
We do have an extra game now, and I think
Train got here. If they have was having twelve games,
I think, if I'm not mistaken, could have been I
think it was a twelve games. Who did kicks had eleven?
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Do you think we'll see somebody ever get fifteen picks
in the season.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
I mean you could got break.
Speaker 6 (52:42):
Like let's say, what's his name, some Paul He played
for the Washington Ford. Yeah, he had four to one game,
So like I feel like somebody, yeah, somebody or this
was either last year or two years ago, Darius Slade
going against Justin Jefferson and I think he had two
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or yeah, I think he had.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
Two, but he could have had like six that games.
Speaker 6 (53:07):
So like those type of games where you just catch
all the ones you're supposed to catch, just play like
your normal game, like you know, you get one every
nine and then whatever.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Then I think it's possible. But if you I think it's.
Speaker 5 (53:22):
Gonna probably come from it's probably gonna come from a
safety somebody that's roaming. But you're right because normally they targeted.
But once he started catching him, they start going away
from you.
Speaker 6 (53:32):
But you know you covering, You're coming in the best receiver,
Like they gotta throw them off.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
They're gonna feed him now, but then that then they're
gonna start.
Speaker 5 (53:42):
They're gonna start stacking him, start running you to start
running you off picks and everything and do it all
that other stuff.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
Try to run a bunch of shallow cross then they're
gonna whip you.
Speaker 5 (53:50):
They're gonna start him in hard, do sorrow, do everything
to try to get you off his tail.
Speaker 6 (53:54):
Still opportunities like like regardless they gonna be that where
they try to hide receiver or not.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
Like if you're on, you on them. So that's the
opportunity right there.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
Right now.
Speaker 5 (54:07):
Look, we know there only takes seven teams to the playoffs.
Right now, you guys are four and five and your
third and your own and your third in your own division.
You lost a couple of games that you look at.
I mean, I'm sure you when you went back and
watched the film, like that team shouldn't beat us, that
team should not have beat us. What are you guys
gonna do? You're four to nine, four and five with
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eight games to play. What do you guys need to
do to position you sell yourself to make sure if
you're not challenging for the division, you get one of
those remaining three playoff spots.
Speaker 6 (54:37):
Well, I mean, you know, going into every week, you
wash away the week before and you don't look past
the week that you're on. But one of the things
that that my position coach Dino or he always said.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
Just just do your do your job, like do take
care of what you gotta take care of.
Speaker 6 (54:57):
And then like, don't go out there chasing plays, don't
go out there.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Like just doing your own thing, Like just do what
she's supposed to do.
Speaker 6 (55:04):
And then if everybody do that, then you know the
result of be what you have wanted to be all
So I think everybody just got to do that. And
that's that's what every sport, that's what every job, that's
with life, that's what everything. Just do what you're supposed
to do and then you know the results. Stood it comes.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
Where you're gonna get some opportunity to get some picks.
Speaker 5 (55:27):
You got the Titans coming up, you got Calvin ridmy Buffalo,
they got a bunch of guys, and then the Coats
they got Pearson Pittman Junr.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
And then you got the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (55:36):
You got Worthy, and you got Rushie Rice and you
got Juju, so you're gonna get something. And then you
got the Cardinals Marvin Harrison, Junr. The Chargers got what
they got, So you got some opportunities. So I'm expecting
we have this conversation again in about about eight weeks
I would be looking like, Okay, Steve, I mean at
last I talked to you, you had three. Now see about
six or seven we talk again.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
Easy, Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, it is what
it is.
Speaker 5 (56:02):
I don't know, like, no, it is what I I
be sick. I'd be sick for seven. I mean, these
things stay locked in. Don't let them.
Speaker 10 (56:10):
Don't let them try to hang you out here trying
to jump on anything.
Speaker 3 (56:13):
Yeah, I got one more question, I got I got
one more question. Most you know, a lot of times,
especially when the player is active, you know, they're they're
in their prime, they're playing extremely well, and they play
dB they never get opportunity to to give receivers their
flowers or receivers. That really not saying beat them, but
you got to really be on your A game. You
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got to dotch your eyes and across your t's when
you're planning against a certain person that really have you
out there thinking, you know, you got to bring your
A game. Is there anybody that comes to mind for
you since you've been in the league where you just know, Okay,
when I'm playing so and so, I got to be oh.
Speaker 6 (56:49):
Well yeah, since I've been there, Yeah, yeah, it's a. Actually,
it's a lot of people because with the NFL, like
everybody right, right, But I've always said Garrett Wilson with
the with the Jets, like he like I remember the
first time I went against him. We was at some
like we was at some high school camp. Uh, it
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was an opening or something of that. Ryan Clark was
actually my my coach.
Speaker 2 (57:15):
Oh yeah, Garrett. He ran like a slant rock or whatever.
Speaker 6 (57:21):
And I'm playing like a deep third or something, and
the ball is thrown so high and I'm.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
Like twenty yards behind, like fifteen twenty yards behind him.
Speaker 6 (57:32):
I'm thinking the ball coming right to me, like he
jump up so high, like he jumps up so high,
catches the ball, just running.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
And looking like yeah.
Speaker 6 (57:41):
But since I've been in the league, like yeah, going
against I think I played against some like twice already
and he yeah, I mean he's nice, like he nice
and then.
Speaker 2 (57:52):
But it's a lot of people. It's so many people.
Speaker 6 (57:55):
I can't even Devonte Adams always yeah read Mike Evans.
Nobody talked about Mike Evans for some strange reason, like
like he he's Mike Evans, like yeah, But it's it's
a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
I can't think of everybody.
Speaker 5 (58:13):
But yeah, right there, you and your dad, Derek Senior
run cover one league. Tell us about that.
Speaker 2 (58:19):
What is league?
Speaker 6 (58:21):
So it's really just like a like a dB camp
like a couple of years. Well, we went to a
wife for a couple of years. Get some people like
all throughout the league, whether it's people I played like
in college with, or just know like throughout the league,
so they'll go down there. Last year we had a
Puerto Rico. Actually we were just talking about it, like
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maybe we can get this in Grease next year, like
you know, like.
Speaker 5 (58:46):
Just just what about safety, y'all invite y'all invite fifty
seven safety.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
I mean, hey, look, it don't matter if you want
to come, just know you're gonna work.
Speaker 1 (58:57):
But bam, y'all work. My grand dad, Damn, I'm a
grand man.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
If you want to come, you're gonna have to work.
It ain't you ain't get you a free trip.
Speaker 1 (59:12):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (59:13):
I thought I was gonna be able to go to
Micky Nose and Santae. You don't get some all them
all some cheep down you.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
Look, you can work, all right.
Speaker 6 (59:22):
So the way the way it's set up is week
we normally go out there for like I think it's
like five days or something more, six days on the
first day, travel day, next day, work day, then off
the next day, and then you got another work day,
then off the next so you know you can do whatever.
Oh okay, okay, okay, yeah, when you can do your business,
is your business. Oh and then I ain't rid of.
Speaker 1 (59:46):
No coverle Saints. You don't stay.
Speaker 5 (59:49):
They call me graveyard because when I leave the field
and bodies anywhere. So you know what I'm saying. All
I want you to do is bundling to him. You
ain't stay, just bundling to me.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
Don't he work? He don't even worry about that lamp
I got.
Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
I got that.
Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
I'll bring bring four linebackers or two to four linebackers.
Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Safety is everybody, So come I like that.
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
I like then you gotta look, you gotta look.
Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
You was on that twenty nineteen national championship team, that
great team, probably the greatest team, one of the greatest
teams ever assembled in college, arguably one of the greatest.
You can make a case it's the greatest offensive team.
But what you guys were able to do, you Joe
Joe Burrow was the quarterback in Jedda and Chase and
marshl and bad Masson, Clyde Edwards a layer and all
those great offensive line and the DB's like yourself, they
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five Brian Kelly, how do you guys get back to
something similar to that with l s U that alums
and and and everybody in Boosters are proud to show
up the Death Valley.
Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
No, we cutn't somebody else tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Or honestly, I mean it's it really just comes down
the core.
Speaker 6 (01:01:00):
Whever they bring in whoever, it doesn't, It doesn't matter
who they bring in, Like as long as the players,
like they really buy into being at LSU, Like you know,
you can you can go to a certain school, you
can you can be from here and be from there.
But once you get to where you're at, like you
gotta know what the goal is and mind like like
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yeah you're at this university, Yeah you're doing all this
and that, but the goal should be to get to
the next level. So once everybody come get into tune
with that, like and really break down like how can
we be great? Like That's that's what it's gonna take.
So I don't think it mattered like who who it
is or or what it takes from the I'm just
(01:01:43):
saying from a coaching standpoint like that, that doesn't matter.
Like it's the players buying it to themselves first and
then the coach like just.
Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Adding on to that mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
Because you got great facilities, tremendous fan base, stadium is
electric Death Valley at night.
Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
There's nothing like playing in Death Valley at night. Man.
Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
That's Derek Stingley Junior, the great All Pro cornerback from
the Houston, Texas d Things.
Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Thanks for some time tonight now.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Continued success. Stay healthy.
Speaker 5 (01:02:14):
Look when we talk to you in in January, I'm
gonna be looking at the stats because I know you
got three nine Like okay, hey o Jo, we got
to call it back up.
Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
You done got seven.
Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Yeah. I appreciate you, all.
Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
Appreciate you, man. Congratulations on all the success. Continue success.
We'll see you down the road. Bro all right, brok
Derek sting gentlemen,
Oh Joe, your quarterback once spoke. Did they hear?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Is Joe Burrow?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
And if the Bengals are.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hey, come on, Joe.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Yeah, you know, our division is wide open. There's a
lot of I think Pittsburgh's five and four at this point.
We play them this week, so you know, everything is
still there in front of us. It's very rare that
our division looks like this, but it does this year,
and so you know, I think we'll be at least
in it until the end. It's fair to say with
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the wild cards that the best path four.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Would be winning the North.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
And I think it would be very difficult for us
to be a wild card team at this point.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Obviously a lot of a lot of football to be played,
but you know, I think that's difficult. I think our
best path would be win the division.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh Joe, Hey, Joe, talk yo talk. And the funny
thing about it is every time I might hear unk, yes, yes,
you unk. You know you talk about the division, the
first thing you do is you talk about you got
damn Ravens being able to come back after they got
to talk about the Ravens. Go listen, that's the chance
that we're gonna win it. Why would you think that?
Why would you think the Ravens will come back and
winning before the Bengals do?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Why?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Because our defense is bad? I mean, I'm asking, is
it because our defense is bad?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Oh so I'm saying, y'all had one good game, y'all
play defensive all of a sudden, y'all all world, y'all, y'all,
y'all back and have the best chance in all.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Their defense is better than yours.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Right, you know, I like that you did that their defenses,
but it's still still bad.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
But the only thing that's wide open is the booking
window for those vacations. Joe Burrow need the book. They say,
if you book your they say for domestic travel, the
best time is thirty eight days before you actually fly
one hundred days international.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So Joe, the.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Way I'm calculating, your season gonna be over probably the
first week in January.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
So you can let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Hey, let me tell you something. One thing you one
thing you don't want to do is when when my
quarterback say something, When a quarterback with that kind of
confidence that's coming off surgery, a toe surgery, he says,
we have a chance, and our chance at winning division
is not not being a wild card, not being a
wild card, but winning the division. You listen to that,
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You stand on that when he say that, because he
will come back and prove you wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
First of all, they put man on the moon, so
anything is possible.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I don't even I don't even know if that was real.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
That was the guy and just right here.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
What he said was a I I'm glad you if
you think, if you think y'all go win the division,
the Ravens are winning that division.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Hold on the quarter the quarterback, our quarterback said that
the chance we can win the division because it hasn't
been clear as this this season, it looks a little different.
He is up in there all the time. Hey, we
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have a chance because our offense is phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Y'all.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Father behind in the Cowboys. You know what we're uh
we put we got it on screen right now. The
playoffs will be Indy number one seed eight and two,
Broncos eight and two to two seed New England eight
and two, three seed Pittsburgh five and four, the Chargers
seventy three, Buffalo sixty three, Jacksonville UH five and four,
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the Chiefs out of the playoffs at five and four, Houston,
Texas four and five, Baltimore four and five, Bengals three
and six, Miami three and seven. Hey, Pittsburgh is stopped
a mud holding, y'all. They got Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh, right.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, Hey, let me let me ask you something. We
got Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh, and when and when we win,
what you're gonna have to say? What you're gonna have
to say?
Speaker 6 (03:59):
Son?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
When we oh yeah, yeah, oh, y'all got Pittsburgh, New
England and the Ravens oh.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
In three is over?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Hey, Hey, we might we might throw for two hundred
and twenty five hundred yards in the next games. The
next three game, we might throw for twenty five hundred
yards a forty points a game.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
If you cook, you like cook barbecue, right, everybody mine?
When you cook barbecue, slow and low. So guess what
slow in low? The next three games, I'm gonna put
y'all in the others at two point fifty and I'm
gonna let.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Y'all cook.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
At two fifty with a.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
When that thing hit in three weeks, good night, I ring.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I want you to keep that same energy when we
get on here Sunday.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
You hear me.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I want you to keep that same energy when we
get on the show Sunday after we beats the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
They gonna get right on, y'all, Get right on, y'all.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
All right, you're gonna remember, you, you what happened to
them getting right the last time you played?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
What happened?
Speaker 5 (05:12):
A little temporary sent back? Y'all won thirty three thirty
thirty three, thirty one. But you want to win this week?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Hey? And then what happened next week? Thirty nine, thirty.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Eight lost to the Jets, forty two, forty two, forty seven,
forty two, lost to the Bears. Buy the lose to
the Steelers, go lose to the Patriots, go lose to
the Ravens. You know what, ain't gonna lose to the Bills.
Ain't gonna lose to the Ravens again, And then y'all
might be in the Browns.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
And the Dolphins. Late, like the words of Tabars, too late.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Sound good? Hey, you got a whole lot of energy,
You got a you got a whole lot of energy.
By the but listen, you think you think we don't
have a chance, Look who's trying.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Boy?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I can't I can't wait a Sunday.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I love it when the player come together play. What
was the plan the player? The playoffs? Y'all? Not two
years to row back to back?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Oh listen, hey Brown, two years back to back and
and home and after the first after the first round.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Hey, you you need me to get your ticket to
a Bronco playoff game because I can.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Do that for you.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
No, No, because there's a chance I'm gonna have something.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Won't have nothing in Cincinnati, my quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
If my quarterback said we're gonna win the division, I'm
standing on business on what he said, I'm taking him.
I'm taking his word for it.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Uh, you said that last year, sure we were going
to the playoffs. That's how you owe me fifty No.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It ain't. Oh bet betton games about the season? I
got you. I got you.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Hey, when y'all losing next three at Steelers lost, Patriots lost,
Ravens lost, Bill's lost Ravens. The next five games, y'all
won't win. If y'all win one game, y'all might win one,
but you won't win more than one game or the
next vote. Hey, I bet your golden door knob to
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a bucket. The Carmineur and I'll let you put up
the carbineur. I bet you a five pound bucket a carbineur,
and I would put up a golden door knob.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I love your confidence. I love your confidence, and I
love the fact that you don't have confidence in my team.
With my team and my quarterback who just came back
from surgery. He will be He'll be back.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
In is he playing all? I know, lost for eighteen
He'll be back.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
He'll be eighty three, lost, thirty seven, twenty four lost
twenty seven, eighteen one, thirty three, thirty one, lost, thirty nine,
thirty eight loss, forty seven, forty.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Two, about to lose again. He'll be back into a weeg.
Actually can't come back for three weeks, but anyway.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Okay, three weeks man either way, either way, Flacco was
carrying the helm. Flacco was steering the ship, and he's
staying it very well.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Ice Bird now will be a star.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
What we need to do, Hey, we need them pirates on.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You hear that alert, You ain't a hearing to it.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Everybody can see that big iceberg except you and your bingos.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Don't worry about it. Hey, keep that same energy with
this Sunday when we win I want, hey, I want
your apology to be just as loud as the disrespect you.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Lost to the Jets. Y'all lost.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Y'all lost to the just y'all lost to a quarterback
that threw for fifty four yards. He's had two games
and what you's thrown for less than one hundred yards.
Y'all lost to that team.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Hey, you know what, y'all almost lost to him too.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Wh whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Y'all almost. But you see here boasting like y'all were,
y'all playing in you y'all was any better? Y'all wasn't
no better either. Eight and two is better than three
and seven. If y'all won three games, we did.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Two three, y'all just won three games.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah, what does this mean? Talking about right? We're gonna
be all right? But when we get in the playoffs,
what you're gonna do that when that playoffs come, that
regular season record don't really matter. It's a new season.
Let's start over, because this one is one and done.
One game you go home. Which football team plays the
best on that specific day is all that comes down.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Y'all haven't played better than any other team, but except
three times in ten games.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, that's regular season, now.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Y'all good? Well, y'all not going to no playoffs?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
All right?
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Hold y'all allergic to the playoffs. I got some Ben adrill.
I'm bringing you Ben a drill because I know you're
about to have a lout reaction. The Broncos are the
longest winning streak in a decade, despite an offense that
has struggled the Munster only ten points. Despite the Broncos
being eight and two, the vibes have been low on
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the offenser side of the ball, and JK. Dobbins, the
Broncos running back, expressed his frustrations. Excuse me, chat, Yeah cool,
we're eating too, But the defense is winning us these games.
We're not helping them. We're not doing them any justice.
I feel bad the way we play on offense and
the way they play on defense, because they're doing such
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a great and we're doing so bad. It just sucks
because they are out there, so many players playing their
butts off. We can't keep doing this to them. Thursday,
with the fourth time this season in which the Broncos
had at least ten accepted penalties called against them, finishing
with eleven pen for seventy eight yards. Eight of those
infractions came on the offense. The Broncos are the second
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most penalized offense in the league, having been called for
fifty two penalties, including decline penalties. Hey, you said we
clean that up out yoe and walk off the coast
beat us on the walk off. The Chargers beat us
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on the walk Offah, y'all just getting walked over?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Hold on, hold on.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Eight teams that are better than y'all. Beat y'all, you understand, right,
Teams that are better than y'all.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Beat y'all. Yeah, the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
The Chargers offensively, they're better than you and your defense
wasn't able to come that.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
They kicked the fifty yard walk off field goal. O yoe?
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Yeah, Oh so the Jets. So the Jets are better
than y'all. Okay, glad you said that, just better than
the Jests are better than the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Why would you say that?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Walk you down?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Oh so the Broncos are better than you all, twenty
eight to three. No, the Vikings are better than you
all forty eight to ten.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Huh, Wow, I can ask you a question. You really
think that.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I know that. I don't think I know that.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
All I got to say is my quarterback A fifty
seven days after surgery, he stood in front of the
media and said, we're going to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Oho the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Even if he didn't exactly say it, his tone, his
mannerisms let me know we're going and that's all I
that's all I can go off of. So if he
said it, we're gone. No matter what you say, no
matter who we lost to in the past, go.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
Lose Sunday to who the Steelers? You really think we're
gonna lose it? The Steelers after that performance, they put
up man please TJ. Watt hot Smith.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
They probably have about they have three and a half,
at least three and a half Folk sacks.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Can buy it.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
They didn't have that in the first one.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
They'll get it this one.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
TJ Whte didn't get it. T J WHTE didn't get
a second. Last time they played the Bengals into the
fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Then garbage time. Well they talking about that's what you did.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
You get garbage when you play garbage teams, what you
expect them to get.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I like I like I like that, and I like
that I like that I like it. Keep that same
minute your day coming o Joe, oh oh Joe.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
After random drug test two weeks ago, doctor discovered that
Broncos linebacker Alex Singington Singleton had to stick your cancer
tumor that been removed today after Dever defeated the Raiders
on Thursday Night football. The problems is excellent for me
and my family, singing toil the announced today for Broncos fan,
I fully expect to return to the field very soon.
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Routine tests, bro, That's what I'm saying. Man, y'all gonna
get the tests. Yeah, that's dope. Hey, all these high
ass premiums. I'm gonna get my moneys worth. Yeah, I'm
getting my money work. I go up there, Man, ain't
nothing wrong with you? Well, I'm gonna let him tell
me that. You ain't telling me that you ain't got
no medical degree at all. So I'm gonna let the
(14:35):
Dodland that with the school for all this tell me
ain't nothing wrong with me.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
And I'm gonna let them scams.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
I'm gonna get m I'm gonna get CT scans, get
I'm gonna get all kind of all kind of scams.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I want to know. I don't want to know anything.
Everything possible.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
I'm getting everything. I'm gonna get high ass premiums. I'm
gonna get it. I'm gonna get my money work.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, that's dope as live.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Well.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
I'm glad they were able to catch this. Alex Man,
prayers up for you and your family. Hey, early detection
is the key. So if possible, Guys, go get checked out. Women,
go get your mammograms, go get your things, Go get
your you know, your physical your routines.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Hey, some don't feel right, it's not in your head.
Just go check out.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Let the doctors tell you, let them them scans tell
you something's not right. Let's tell you something you know.
You'll find everything checks out. Just think about it. Like
I said, a lot of some of these cancers are
are you know, you can't prevent them, but detected earlier enough,
they're treatable.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, kudos to Alex. Good job, Broncos.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Bleacher Report ranks his five most overrated quarterback. They named
Lamar Jackson as the most overrated quarterback in the NFL,
said he may not just be one today's most overrated
active quarterbacks, but also of all time. His two time
MVP status is borderline fraudulent. His credentials don't measure up
to other leisureers who've won the award on numerous occasions.
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Of the ten players that have joined multiple MVP clubs
during the Super Bowl era, Jackson is the lone member
without a Super Bowl ring. All The others on that
list include Johnny Uniteds, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady,
Brett Farv, Joe Montano, Steve Young, Kurt Warner, Patrick Mahomes
were able to take their team to multiple Super Bowl
appearances and one at least once.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Jackson has yet to even reach the Big Game.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
He's three and five lifetime in playoffs and has a
three seventy five postseason winning percentage that stands far away
the worst among multiple MVP winners. First of all, Steve
Young did not take no team to multiple MVPs. He
was a backup. He took his team to one Super
Bowl and he did win it. That was in nineteen
ninety for he threw six touchdowns in Miami to beat
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the Chargers. So let's let's yeah, I'd like to give context.
Steve Young did not go to multiple Super Bowls.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Now.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Also, if I'm not mistaken. I think Earl Morrill didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Earl Moris start one of those Super Bowl for.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
The Colts, or you had a two Johnny United std
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to Earl Yeah, Miami, Yeah, Johnny. Johnny went to two
UH Coats, went went to two Super Bowls. I know
they beat the Cowboys on the field.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Who Johnny? Yeah, Okay, okay, look I get it.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Yes, And and oh Joe, we talked about this. This
is the the albatross. This is the elephant in the room.
You see the names that are on this list that
have won multiple MVPs. Lamar is the only one that
hasn't been to a Super Bowl. That's not to say,
oh Joe's career is not ending tomorrow, but everybody jumped
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on me when I said his career will be looked
at as a disappointment if he doesn't get to a
super Bowl considering what he had accomplished.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
You based it on what these other guys. See.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
You can't just look, well, he wont two MVPs. You
gotta look at the company that he's in. That's one
two MVPs. Now you start looking at it, you're like, well, damn,
he has to get the one.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Aaron Rodgers went to one.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
He has to get to at least one, and then
we look at him totally different. He gets the one
and he wins it, we look at him differently.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Oh Joe, we just do yeah, absolutely, But yeah, listen,
I understand the company to keep the fact that he's
won two MVPs, the fact that he's one of those MVPs,
those that are in the chat, that are listening, that
are watching, you have to understand that he's in a
different cles, in the class of his own, in a
different class for that matter. So when it comes to
judging him, he judged based off his his what he's
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not cam Padre's what's the world I'm looking for?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Period?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
And the company his peers. He judged based on his
other peers that have won MVP's as well, and most
of them, if not all, have been to a Super Bowl,
whether they won a Super Bowl or not, So he
judg off of that. But the whole overrated part is
the part I don't like. That's the part I don't
like saying that he's overrated because he hadn't gotten there
yet when he's still playing and only a seventh maybe
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eighth year, I'm not sure. Which one it is.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
It's ridiculous that was nothing about Lamar's first year.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, okay, but but nothing about Lamar Jackson and what
he brings to the table, what he brings to the NFL,
what he bring to the Baltimore Ravens in general, and
giving them a chance and having him a contention every
goddamn year. Nothing about that is overrated. That's the part
I don't like. Now that is more to me, it's
more clickbait. There should be a different title when it
comes to talk about the quarterbacks that have won MVP's
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and have been or won a Super Bowl. That the
title should be goddamned different, overrated, My goddamn mad Now
that that's a bunch of bullshit.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Le mask your question. But when you looking at him,
help you. But here's the thing they're not seeing. You're
looking at him against his peers. They're looking at him
against his peers that have won two MVPs. So when
you look at him, look at the class that he's in.
You compare him to my home boy two MVPs, five
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super Bowl appearances, three wins. You're looking at Peyton Manning
five MVPs, three super Bowl appearances, two wins. You look
at at Tom Brake, move on, you look at Yeah,
you looking at us a brand fall.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
How about how about this? Everybody on that list, everybody
on the list except one person, is already done and
not playing any correct, everybody on our list is done
and not playing. So how about we wait until he's
done playing, and then we justify whether he belongs in
that company or not, or whether he's overrated or not.
And even if he doesn't go to a goddamn super Bowl,
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what he's going to continue to do the resume that
he's gonna put together whether he wins three more MVPs
and doesn't make a goddamn super Bowl or not, nothing
about Lamar Jackson is overrated. I know the fact that
the way we judge quarterbacks is based on wins and
losses and rings and hardware and all that, But when
it comes down to the nitty gritty, when you're talking
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to people that played the game, forget the forget the media,
forget the pundits, forget those that never played the game.
Nothing about young bull out of goddamned Pompino who played
for Boy and Beach High School is overrated. Whether he
has a goddamn ring or not, he will still go
down as one of the best, the best quarterbacks that
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ever play this goddamn game. How do we judge Daan Marino?
Do we say, Damn Marino is not winning the greats?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Because here's the thing, Jo g r e A T great.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Now if we add the s T one of the
great tests, that's what he's going for. You see you
saying something very interesting and this is and this is
actually true. Only quarterbacks get measured by wins and Super
Bowl no other, no other position.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Super Bowls matter, Okay, right.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Not like they do for a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Because even when when Brady wasn't putting up numbers like Peyton,
they said he was better than Manning because what did
he have that Manning didn't championships? Think about it, now,
Peyton Manning had won multiple multiple MVPs, Brady had three
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Super Bowls. Manning had three regular season MVP They say, well,
Brady's best because Brady has As you was pointing to
your fingers, that's how they I don't sit the rules.
You see what happened with ring culture. You see what
is it done? It'll make people jump around and go
try to find the best situation where they can win
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a ring and then they shut you up, and it's like, Okay,
I've already done what I needed to do.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Now no more argument and no more argument at that point,
Especially when it comes to basketball, you have those that
that that have to chase the ring because of ring
culture in the rules, the unwritten rules. Matter of fact,
how about that the unwritten rules, because who the hell
came up with it?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Who the hell don't know?
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Because they were saying, they were saying Jordan was better
than Magic, and Magic had five rings. They were saying,
but Jordan was better than Bird, and Bird had three
m vps in three rings.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
He had.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
He's the last guy to win three consecutive MVPs. You
gotta go all the way back to Wilt. So what
has happened is that now I give you another one.
The next couple of years, people gonna say Schelle way
A Tani is the best, greatest bestball player we've ever seen.
He's got four m vps. He's got him unanimously. He's
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got two Super Bowl he got two World Series wings.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
O Joe.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
He had one of the great postseason performers where he
struck out ten and hit three home runs. Now he
messed around and get another one and win another World Series?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Who we who? What? We who? What we gonna compare
him to because we four m vps.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Unanimously, Yeah, that's that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
So you see, once you start and Barry bars was
so great. Even everybody that played against him said, that
is the greatest player that I've ever seen. Greg Maddick said, well,
it was it really easy to pick the Barry if
it mattered you walked him. He said, his job was
to get twenty seven hours. You don't get them on him,
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So pick the other eight guys to get and figure
and figure it out. So when you look at it,
I get Look, it's hard to say a man a
man like Lamar and maybe you're right, maybe overrated is
a harsh turn. But I think if we they're looking,
they're looking at him as the ten guys that have
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something that no other guys have, and that is think
about the NFL.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
He long has been going on, hold.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
On, stay with me, stay with me real quick.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Now.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
So if we if we talk about hard yet right
and hardware, hardware puts quarterbacks in a different in different
in a different year where we're just great greatst. So
are we saying, like Ben Rothslisberger belongs in that tier two?
Are we saying Russell Wilson also belongs in that tier two?
When we talk about quarterbacks that are the greatst because
they no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
No no no no no no no no no no
no no no. But here's the thing, oh Joe, none
of these none of those guys have regular season MVPs.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Okay, oh so there there's there.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Okay, there there, there's there.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
So we can't we can't, we can't move.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Let me ask your question. Has anybody ever said Ben
Roethlisberger was greater than Tom Brady, Peyton Manning. No, So
when you so, when you look at it, and so
when you when you look at it, you have to
have regular season m vps. That does matter. Now when
you when you start getting postseason m vps, that means
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you won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
See you see.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Brady Brady Brady has three regular season MVPs. He has
seven Super Bowls and five Super Bowl MVPs. So no
matter what criteria you use, it's gonna be hard for
somebody to overtake him. Unless my homeboy gets five MVPs.
It's let's just say, for the sake of art, we
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have a compelling case. If my homeboy Mahon boys not
even thirty. I think he just turned thirty, yes, so,
and and the thing he just turned thirty. So when
you look at it, Ohoe, I think that is the
thing they're they're comparing him in this elite category. Elite,
which is guys that have won multiple MVPs.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Think it ain't that many quarterbacks. That's one, two, what
is it?
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Uninas, Manning, Rogers, Brady farre Montana, Young Warner, Mahomes, it's nine,
Lamar makes ten.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, he's the only one that's never been to a
super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
Now, if he doesn't get to a super Bowl, what
are they gonna say, Oh, Joe, To be honest, you
know what they're gonna say.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. We we know
what they gonna say. We know what they're gonna say.
But I listen, huh, I know what they're gonna say.
But I know what My eyes haven't seen all he
is I've seen.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Let me do you one better.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
H They say, guys that got super Bowl rings at
the receiver position better than Ocho because Ocho ain't got
no rings. But you run circles around them on the field.
You see how they did. See how they did you
see you see.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
How they did that?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yeah, I got you, I got listen, I'm with you
when you're right now, I'm picking.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Up what you say. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
So now, so just imagine they do that for the receipt.
So imagine if a quarterback and that's what I said.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Oh yeah, it's even, it's even. It's even worse. It's
even worse.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Now.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I hate that it's like that. I hate that it's
like that. It's it's somewhat of an unwritten rule, just
like the unrul of hockey when it comes to fighting,
just like the unwritten roll, unwritten rule in baseball. Like
I understand it. I hate that it's like that hey
ring culture when it comes to talking basketball. It matters nobody,
it just does it. But that that's just the way
it is. But I mean, it is what it is.
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I think I think with the way obviously they didn't
they didn't. They didn't have a good year, a good
start through the year. They obviously the Ravens oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
I think they're gonna win the division. I think they're
going to get They're gonna.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Get a home game. Whoa whoak, they're gonna win.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I don't know about the division.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
So what about? So what you think? What you think
we're gonna do?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
So you can do nothing?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Hold on, hold on, I'll tell you what I know.
I'll tell you what. I'm very serious to night. I'm
very serious to night. But I'll tell you this. I
will give you guys a division if we lose to
the Steelers, which I doubt we do. If we lose
to the Steelers, I say, you guys are probably going
to win the division at that point. But if we
go in there and we beat the Steelers, that momentum,
I tell you, I tell you what, that momentum the
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rest of the season is gonna be held. I don't
I don't give two you know what to drop the
dried up pigeon, you know what on concrete? How bad
our defense is that momentum? Offensively? Man, man, listen, man,
I don't know. It's gonna be tough. Now we if
we lose to the Steelers, I mean, that's it. It's
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a rap.
Speaker 8 (30:12):
Oh yeah for sure, I mean our season yeah. And
so that's that's that's the thing, because you know, you
look at Lamar and it's it's tough because in his era, uh,
he got my homes.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
There are a lot of quarters.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
There are a lot of people that's gonna get overlooked,
just like they got overlooked. Ben didn't get the credit
he deserves. Drew Brees didn't get the credit that they
deserve because why they played in the era with Smack Dad,
with Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
And you're talking about guys that got.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Eight regular season MVPs and ten no, hell no, Tom
Tom is nine and twelve Super Bowl appearances with nine wins.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah, God, that's crazy, man.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
And it's you know, it's so funny too, is we've
been spoiled. We've been spoiled, whether the Peyton Mannings and
and then the Tom Brady's and the Patrick Mahomes and
the Joe montann And people don't understand how difficult that
Aaron Rodgers the breadthat they don't understand bren roths all
these quarterbacks and it's thirty two teams. It's thirty two
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teams and it's only a handful of quarterbacks in each
hand Yeah, almost over thirty years that are our tier
one quarterback. Yeah, that just lets people know how difficult
that position is and how special those are. That in
those conversations that we're talking about, and the fact that
Lamar's name is in those conversations and winning to MVPs
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and those unwritten rules kind of give you like augh,
He's not really there yet until he does this. So
he got he got to get there. I'm not sure
when it's gonna happen, but it's gonna happen before his career.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Yes, my bad. Tom has ten Super Bowl appearances. God damn,
he has ten.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Oh that's crick.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Lost to Eli twice and lost to a Nick Foles.
Yes on the trick, Yeah, yeah, the Philly Special. Yeah,
oh Joe. Now here's the next five that had Lamar
number one, had Jordan Love number two, Justin Herbert, number three,
Dak Prescott, number four, Trevor Lawrence number five. Now, Trevor
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Lawrence need to be what Lamar is. I will put
Lamar down there. If you gonna put them, you're gonna
put Lamar on his list. I'm gonna put him down
at five, right man, Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence, Man, I
don't think Justin Herbert is overrated. Let's see now that
he has Jim Harbaugh, the one thing we.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Know about Jim Harbor. Yeah, he's gonna win. Mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
They're gonna play like stand our defense and he gets
he gonna get to a super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I'm not gonna say it's gonna beat this year.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah, but he definitely definitely gonna get.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
He getting there.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And listen and the way Justin Herbert is playing this
year too. Man, Justin Herbert is throwing at.
Speaker 9 (33:23):
Absolutely hey, Quentin john It is Quentin Johnston, Quinston, Quentin Johnston,
m h Man, Young Bull, Young Bull got his confidence
playing extremely well.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
That Darius McConkey playing extremely well, Keenan Allen, that veteran
presence in that locker room playing extremely well.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
So they're really are.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
I forgot about Rondie Gass in the second catching the
hell of that ball, being a Marion Hampton. I think
he's coming back. He's coming back on the back on
the back end of the season. I think he. I
think he's gonna be back off injury. They're gonna make
a nice little run. They're gonna make a nice.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Absolutely will uh George Love, George Love's he gonna have
to get better. Man, George Love's gonna have to be better.
I don't know if somebody hasn't got in his ear
and talking about Bro, you got to push the ball
down the field.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Man. You make too much money.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
You make too much money to be to be missing
these throws like and I'm not saying you're gonna make
every You're not gonna make every throw.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I get that, I understand.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
And I'm not trying to minimize playing that position because
that's a position I couldn't play very difficult. But come on, bro,
that's why they play. The more you get paid, the
more expected, the more expectation, and a bird that.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Is placed on you, that's just that's just the rules
of engagement.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Hey, can you imagine? Can you imagine being responsible not
only for a team, but playing the most important position
on the field. The ball is in your hands. The
most they paying you fifty fifty five million dollars a year.
Matter of fact, forget a year, they paying you fifty
to fifty five million dollars in six months, six months.
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And I need I need you to carry this franchise.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Man.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
You talk talk about pressure. I know, it's a game
of football. It's what we've all done since we were
four years old. But man, man, yeah, but look, I'm
with you, o Jo. I believe Labron Jackson is going
to get to a super Bowl, and once he gets
there and he wins it, it's over. Hey, get that monk,
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get that monkey off my back so I can go
play freely. Please, thank you?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
You see, think about it.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
I get a prime example, Lebron James had two MVPs,
but he had never hadn't gotten to the finals. He
had two, lost two, and then all of a sudden
he he won, got that monkey off his back. Yeah,
of you miss right, and let Lamar get the thing,
get the monkey off his back. He might get the
mike double you up, go back to back.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Jack Yeah, Hey, I got one question too, now that
we're talking about those hundred rules, especially in these conversations
when it comes to quarterbacks and MVPs. Was it was
just on my Well, well, it's kind of different because
Jayla Hurst. Jayla Hurst has a Super Bowl MVP and
a ring, so he's not in that conversation.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Correct, These are only these are the only guys in
the Super Bowl that had at least too regularly than
the MVPs.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Right, Okay, okay, there are nine guys.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Lamar makes the tenth.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Lamar is the only one that hasn't appeared any Super Bowl, right, Okay,
And I think about it, Peyton Manning never went back
to back. Tom and Tom, Joe and Mahomes are the
only ones to go back to back.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Of the group that.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Peyton didn't go to back to back Super Bowls. Yeah,
Kurt didn't. Kurt went ninety nine, we won two thousand.
They went in two thousand and one, and then he
went again with Arizona, I think, and what was that
two thousand and eight. I think it was two thousand
and eight, because two thousand and nine was New Orleans,
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two thousand what you call them, because seven was the Giants,
eight was the Steelers, nine, nine was yeah, nine was
New Orleans. Ten was the Giants again, yeah, eleven was
the Packers. Yeah mm hmm, yeah, eleven was the Packers.
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Twelve with the Seahawks. All right, Oh my man, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, I'm just I was just you know, just
just going. But like I said, oh Yoe, once he
gets that monkey off his back, oh yoe, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, you're gonna be fine. Eight and that that ship hard.
But I'm gonna go cause we've been on this thing.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
About because you know why it's hard, because they say
there's nothing like a game seven. Well, in the NFL,
there's every game is a game seven. Every game, wild
Card game is game seven, Divisional round game seven, Conference
Final game seven, super Bowl game seven.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Football, you play a game seven every.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
Time you step on the field in the playoffs in football.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Matter of fact, four weeks yes, four weeks of game
four weeks of game seven, yes, And you got to
must it up and play your football. You got to
play your best football.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
We got a very special guest joining us. We got
Texans All World cornerback man. You had an unbelievable one
handed interception that really started to come back. They came out,
came back from nineteen down in the fourth quarter to
win the ball game against the Jacksonville Jaguars, a division opponent.
Harry is a Pro Bowler all Pro three picks this season,
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including one of gain is Trevor Lawrence. Harry is Derek
Stingley Junior sting what's going on, bro? Thank you for
joinings Man. We really really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Go ahead on, Joe, what's good.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Is good.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Okay, I like that energy. I like that energy.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I see you in the off season.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, bro, watching you play. And I think
the thing is about any great corner, the one thing
that they all have is patient. They ain't really biting
that first move. Look, bro, all that head stuff. Let
me ask you a question. What are you looking at?
You looking at his breastplate? You're looking at his hips
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because all this head doing all this and all that
right there, and these hips still coming straight at me.
So what when you when you lock in and you're
playing press coverage, what are you watching?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
I'm looking more at the like mid thigh, the back leg.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Okay, so like I started low.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
So then when your eyes go up a little bit,
hips and try to stay in that range right there.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
So yeah, how did you How did you learn to
be patient?
Speaker 5 (40:07):
Because a lot of times, you know, these receivers are
really good at round running, getting in and out of breaks.
And I think the thing is that you can't be overreactive,
always biting the first move. Now, you know, sometimes they
sometimes they really are running a go and sometimes they're
gonna run, you know, they trying to run you off
and do this comeback or do this.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Dig or do this overrop. So so how are you playing?
Speaker 5 (40:27):
I mean, obviously you study tape, you see formation, You're like, okay,
you think y'all slip. Y'all think y'all got a three
by one. You think you're gonna fool me with this
click here?
Speaker 6 (40:35):
Yeah, I mean it's really because I mean I'm also fast,
know what, I feel like people don't think that that I'm.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Fast, but like they don't think you're fast.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
But I can run with pretty much anybody, So knowing
that in my mind, like you're not gonna run away
from me, So I played like low Hill most of
the time I can. And we get down the field
of quarterback. You know, all quarterba don't throw accurate beat passes,
so you know, I can look back at a certain
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time knowing that the ball sometimes will be underthrown or
inside or something like that. Then it's just make a
playoff of that, and.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
You know you ain't gonna have much time to throw it.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Y'all got those two edge guys coming off the edge,
so you like, hey, I ain't got to I ain't
got along.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
Yeah, and that's every snap like they they and it's
not even just them, like it's the whole like the interior.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Like they you got rankings.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
You got those guys they pushing up the middle, and
then you got the two on the outside and they all rotate,
so like we got three people deep in every position
on the D line, so every snap.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
But you want, you wanted a few obviously, I'm I'm
an enthusiast when it comes to you know, some of
the better dB just dB play in general, you know,
and and and being able to watch y'all and then
study a game and study how you guys play. You
have tremendous patients. You have tremendous patients similar to to
to to like the real ReBs in a sense, you're
very good and bump and run up watching film. You
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can tell you watch film a lot, and you understand
the tendencies and and and what's coming and what's not.
And your ball skills is second and none. Your ball
skills is a second or none because you're one of
the few few dbs that when when the ball is
in the air, you actually look back for it and
you don't panic most of the time. You you already
know most of the time. Everybody always panic once the
ball in the air and what's the first thing you do?
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You pull your tug and you get a flag throw.
But your ball skills, man, is elite.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
I haven't had a chance to give you your flowers,
but just now I got a chance to. But you
wanted the best. You know, we talk about top two.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Uh, you right up there.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
So it depends on on on who you who you
like based on preferences. And you and brother brother Pete
two died.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
In and I appreciate you, man, I appreciate.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
That a d steam.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
What's up, bro?
Speaker 10 (42:56):
Hey tell me some what have you learned from you know,
your father, your grandfather, coaching and mentorship, you know, as
you came into this league, what what what have they
charged you kind of growing up?
Speaker 6 (43:07):
Well, my dad so you know, he well he coached
in the Arena Football League for a long time.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
He played in Arena. Uh.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
And since I was a little kid, like as far
back as I can remember, h I'm doing dB drills
with like his player and like with full pass on
as a little kid, or or like running routes against
his dvs as a little kid, like double moves or
you know whatever like that. So being in that type
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of environment, it kind of taught me, for one, like
the brotherhood that goes along with a with a.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Football team, because one they was, they was.
Speaker 6 (43:48):
I guess you could say like they was those older
figures that I saw as like superstars. Like it was
just like a like a family environment. And so they
taught me brotherhood. And then and then like seeing them
go out there and play all together, knowing that they
was close like off the field on whether that was
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dealing with me or you know, doing their own thing
or whatever. And then from my dad like well, and
then and then adding on to that, like my dad
he taught me how to deal with like energy levels
on the on the field, so you know, you know.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Big talker, he tried to get your hands thing.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah, you know, like he'll talk and he'll do all that.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
But me personally, like if I make a good player,
like you probably won't see me doing anything like like
whether if it's like PBu or something like that, like
I'll just walk off because for when.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
I be tired, so like I don't do that.
Speaker 6 (44:51):
And then like and something if something is too bad,
then you know, like it's on to the next play.
And I feel like as as a defensive player, like
that's that's just how you gotta live life and well.
And it's really like that for offense too, like like
a receiver tight end, like like you dropped the ball.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Like drop a pass. You gotta move that, like you.
Speaker 6 (45:11):
Can't think about it because then you start thinking about
kissing the football, You're gonna keep on dropping the rest
of them. Oh you know, like stuff like that, like
just regulating emotions and you know, still playing with a
passion and being fierced with it.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
But everybody don't need to.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
Know that, Like like you, if you want to try
to play me on the field, I just show you
by just playing the game.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Like I don't. I don't need to talk because I
don't know how to talk.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
I said, you don't talk.
Speaker 5 (45:41):
So if somebody started, yeah, but oh yeah, I'm about
to get this one to day. I'm about to get
me a hundred today. Got to get me a boy,
a couple of tubs on me.
Speaker 6 (45:48):
I'll probably just look, well because I don't know how
to talk trash talk, so like I'll just look and
I'll either laugh or I'll just be like okay, all right, Like.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Hey, hey Joe, I'm gonna get it out of yo.
Speaker 5 (46:04):
I'm gonna get like this, man, what you're doing. So
you're about to smell the older. That's what I'm doing.
Don't worry about a d C telling y'all love. That's
gonna motivate And he ain't gotta say that.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah, but it's a quiet confidence, bro, it's not.
Speaker 6 (46:22):
It doesn't matter who it is. Like like your like,
I know you. You say that you will be able
to get me to talk on the field, But I
honestly would look at you crazy, and you're gonna be
like what, like it's something wrong with him?
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Like like why is he not? No?
Speaker 3 (46:37):
No, no, no, I'm gonna give that work. I listen,
I'm not gonna talk on the field. I'm gonna talk
during the play. I'm gonna talk during the route like
I'm different.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Thing like I'm different.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Gotta let it know you, we gotta let you know thing. Hey,
the whole time, you got two quiet dudes versus two
talkers that burst that burst.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Out hey a sting. Hey, you know they hit you
with it every time I catch it fall in me
hitting with their own thing.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't Hey, that on effect.
I don't do that, so that on effect, you.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
Know, you're right right, I'm.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Saying like you don't.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
My mind is like this is a seal like just
I don't know cage or what like.
Speaker 5 (47:23):
Yeah, when I tell you what y'all do, do you
let when you got the interception, y'all ran to the
end zone.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
So I give me a touchdown. I'm calling on my teammate.
Come on, let's yo, let go.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, stink a stink.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
You know you know whose thing remind me of to
Hunk And that's the way you carry yourself. And he's
always always even killed no matter what. It's really hard
to get him out of character. Andre Johnson, Yeah, exactly
the same.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Don't talk, I don't say nothing.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
Yeah at all at all.
Speaker 5 (47:53):
Who let me ask you a question, who do you kind
of pattern your game after? Because you, I mean like
you kind of built like like Reavers. But I mean
there's Charles Woodson, there's Rod Woodson, There's Time, There's Reevers,
there's Darryl Green, there's a Nils Wiim. There's been a
lot of great corners. Like, so did you study feel
when you watch it? Like, Okay, this is the direction
I'm going in, and I think this is what I'm
gonna be at in college is what I'm gonna be
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at the next level.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Who do you kind of patter of your game after?
Speaker 5 (48:18):
Is there any similarities that you see between yourself and
anybody that I mentioned?
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Maybe somebody did.
Speaker 6 (48:22):
Yeah, nobody that you mentioned. But I've always it's always
been Timp Bailey for me or Okay, he is always
the you know, he get the ball, he's locked down,
he's interchangeable. If he need to go play somewhere else,
like in a different positions, he can do it, like
just because he know the know the defenses or no football.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah, age has always been any twenty four like that.
Speaker 6 (48:44):
Yeah, that's he's always been the first.
Speaker 5 (48:48):
So you like you like because I measure corners and
then it's not a knock on the corners that don't.
But I like to see you get frequentlying miles. I
like to see you travel travel. I mean, if you've
got a bad dude and he normally hear the acts,
I'm gonna yeah, if he is, I'm falling there. If
he in the slot, I'm a fall in there. If
he in the backfield, I'm lining up the linebacker. Wherever
you go.
Speaker 6 (49:08):
Just yeah, I mean, and that that's a that's a
part of it, Like like that's a that's a mindset,
like I just want to cover the best.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Like if you're allowed to do it, you're allowed to
do it.
Speaker 6 (49:20):
If you're not allowed to do it, then you know
the people that aren't allowed to do it, I guarantee
they wish that they can do it. Like, so that's
something that you can't knock somebody for.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
I don't no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (49:32):
Some people just like they got their defenses and you
play left, he played right, whatever the case. And that's
how it was with Revers and Pro Normally, Revers and Crow,
they stayed cro stayed on one side, restayed on the
other side, and so wherever you went, Sherman and when
they were in Seattle, he was on one side and
Brandon Browner was on the other side.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
So let me ask your question.
Speaker 5 (49:53):
You got the big contract, and you know what comes
along with big contracts, even more expectations. You've gone to
the Pro Bowl, you've been in all Pro. What are
the expectations that thing puts on himself down the outside pressure,
what you put on.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yourself, Oh, we're really on myself.
Speaker 6 (50:08):
Like it's more about like like technique, Like it's sometimes
like like, well, we kind of mentioned earlier.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Patients. We were talking about patients, right, so sometimes.
Speaker 6 (50:20):
Well, and then you also said like like kind of
falling for the first move or wanting to react to
the first move, like like yes, like people know, I'm
a patient defensive back at the line of scrimmage, so
I'll get harder moves like first steps thinking that okay, yeah, they're.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Going like you know, it's just a game within the game.
Speaker 6 (50:40):
Oh so I'm harder myself, like trying to make sure
that I'm sticking to to who I am and controlling
controlling the game myself, not being reacted, but like like
you know, like controlling the game. And then another thing
is like, yeah, I got all the pigs the ball skills.
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But like I've said this before, like last year, I
had however manuye, I had like interceptions, I could have
had double that same thing right now, I gotta have
however many I have right now, I should have double that, Like,
and those are the type of things that above me
because I know my Pops is sitting in the stands somewhere.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
It's just like mad, like.
Speaker 6 (51:21):
Like frowning or something, and I can feel them like
like just being mad at me, so but I'm also
mad too, so you know, like those those are the
main things for me because you know, like I know
how to catch a football, so like why am I
not catching the pass on this or or that? Or
why is this person getting like an inch of separation
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when they're when they're not supposed to like like you know,
like stuff like that like normal. I mean I feel
like that's normal, like football whatever.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
Thing.
Speaker 5 (51:53):
Let me ask you this, do you think we're gonna
see somebody Dick Knight train Lane his rookie season he
had I think in nineteen eighty left.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
The Hayes had thirteen picks.
Speaker 5 (52:05):
If we haven't seen anybody, we've seen a ten you
saw we just saw.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
He had eleven?
Speaker 1 (52:10):
Did did Yeah?
Speaker 5 (52:12):
He had ten, And we've seen a lot of teen
Champ Bailey one year had ten, But we really haven't
seen somebody get that twelve thirteen to really challenge that fourteen.
We do have an extra game now, and I think
Train got here. If they have was having twelve games,
I think, if I'm not mistaken, could have been I
think it was a twelve games. Who did kicks had eleven?
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Do you think we'll see somebody ever get fifteen picks
in the season.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
I mean you could got break.
Speaker 6 (52:42):
Like let's say, what's his name, some Paul He played
for the Washington Ford. Yeah, he had four to one game,
So like I feel like somebody, yeah, somebody or this
was either last year or two years ago, Darius Slade
going against Justin Jefferson and I think he had two
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or yeah, I think he had.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
Two, but he could have had like six that games.
Speaker 6 (53:07):
So like those type of games where you just catch
all the ones you're supposed to catch, just play like
your normal game, like you know, you get one every
nine and then whatever.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Then I think it's possible. But if you I think it's.
Speaker 5 (53:22):
Gonna probably come from it's probably gonna come from a
safety somebody that's roaming. But you're right because normally they targeted.
But once he started catching him, they start going away
from you.
Speaker 6 (53:32):
But you know you covering, You're coming in the best receiver,
Like they gotta throw them off.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
They're gonna feed him now, but then that then they're
gonna start.
Speaker 5 (53:42):
They're gonna start stacking him, start running you to start
running you off picks and everything and do it all
that other stuff.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
Try to run a bunch of shallow cross then they're
gonna whip you.
Speaker 5 (53:50):
They're gonna start him in hard, do sorrow, do everything
to try to get you off his tail.
Speaker 6 (53:54):
Still opportunities like like regardless they gonna be that where
they try to hide receiver or not.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
Like if you're on, you on them. So that's the
opportunity right there.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
Right now.
Speaker 5 (54:07):
Look, we know there only takes seven teams to the playoffs.
Right now, you guys are four and five and your
third and your own and your third in your own division.
You lost a couple of games that you look at.
I mean, I'm sure you when you went back and
watched the film, like that team shouldn't beat us, that
team should not have beat us. What are you guys
gonna do? You're four to nine, four and five with
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eight games to play. What do you guys need to
do to position you sell yourself to make sure if
you're not challenging for the division, you get one of
those remaining three playoff spots.
Speaker 6 (54:37):
Well, I mean, you know, going into every week, you
wash away the week before and you don't look past
the week that you're on. But one of the things
that that my position coach Dino or he always said.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
Just just do your do your job, like do take
care of what you gotta take care of.
Speaker 6 (54:57):
And then like, don't go out there chasing plays, don't
go out there.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Like just doing your own thing, Like just do what
she's supposed to do.
Speaker 6 (55:04):
And then if everybody do that, then you know the
result of be what you have wanted to be all
So I think everybody just got to do that. And
that's that's what every sport, that's what every job, that's
with life, that's what everything. Just do what you're supposed
to do and then you know the results. Stood it comes.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
Where you're gonna get some opportunity to get some picks.
Speaker 5 (55:27):
You got the Titans coming up, you got Calvin ridmy Buffalo,
they got a bunch of guys, and then the Coats
they got Pearson Pittman Junr.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
And then you got the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (55:36):
You got Worthy, and you got Rushie Rice and you
got Juju, so you're gonna get something. And then you
got the Cardinals Marvin Harrison, Junr. The Chargers got what
they got, So you got some opportunities. So I'm expecting
we have this conversation again in about about eight weeks
I would be looking like, Okay, Steve, I mean at
last I talked to you, you had three. Now see about
six or seven we talk again.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
Easy, Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, it is what
it is.
Speaker 5 (56:02):
I don't know, like, no, it is what I I
be sick. I'd be sick for seven. I mean, these
things stay locked in. Don't let them.
Speaker 10 (56:10):
Don't let them try to hang you out here trying
to jump on anything.
Speaker 3 (56:13):
Yeah, I got one more question, I got I got
one more question. Most you know, a lot of times,
especially when the player is active, you know, they're they're
in their prime, they're playing extremely well, and they play
dB they never get opportunity to to give receivers their
flowers or receivers. That really not saying beat them, but
you got to really be on your A game. You
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got to dotch your eyes and across your t's when
you're planning against a certain person that really have you
out there thinking, you know, you got to bring your
A game. Is there anybody that comes to mind for
you since you've been in the league where you just know, Okay,
when I'm playing so and so, I got to be oh.
Speaker 6 (56:49):
Well yeah, since I've been there, Yeah, yeah, it's a. Actually,
it's a lot of people because with the NFL, like
everybody right, right, But I've always said Garrett Wilson with
the with the Jets, like he like I remember the
first time I went against him. We was at some
like we was at some high school camp. Uh, it
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was an opening or something of that. Ryan Clark was
actually my my coach.
Speaker 2 (57:15):
Oh yeah, Garrett. He ran like a slant rock or whatever.
Speaker 6 (57:21):
And I'm playing like a deep third or something, and
the ball is thrown so high and I'm.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
Like twenty yards behind, like fifteen twenty yards behind him.
Speaker 6 (57:32):
I'm thinking the ball coming right to me, like he
jump up so high, like he jumps up so high,
catches the ball, just running.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
And looking like yeah.
Speaker 6 (57:41):
But since I've been in the league, like yeah, going
against I think I played against some like twice already
and he yeah, I mean he's nice, like he nice
and then.
Speaker 2 (57:52):
But it's a lot of people. It's so many people.
Speaker 6 (57:55):
I can't even Devonte Adams always yeah read Mike Evans.
Nobody talked about Mike Evans for some strange reason, like
like he he's Mike Evans, like yeah, But it's it's
a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
I can't think of everybody.
Speaker 5 (58:13):
But yeah, right there, you and your dad, Derek Senior
run cover one league. Tell us about that.
Speaker 2 (58:19):
What is league?
Speaker 6 (58:21):
So it's really just like a like a dB camp
like a couple of years. Well, we went to a
wife for a couple of years. Get some people like
all throughout the league, whether it's people I played like
in college with, or just know like throughout the league,
so they'll go down there. Last year we had a
Puerto Rico. Actually we were just talking about it, like
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maybe we can get this in Grease next year, like
you know, like.
Speaker 5 (58:46):
Just just what about safety, y'all invite y'all invite fifty
seven safety.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
I mean, hey, look, it don't matter if you want
to come, just know you're gonna work.
Speaker 1 (58:57):
But bam, y'all work. My grand dad, Damn, I'm a
grand man.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
If you want to come, you're gonna have to work.
It ain't you ain't get you a free trip.
Speaker 1 (59:12):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (59:13):
I thought I was gonna be able to go to
Micky Nose and Santae. You don't get some all them
all some cheep down you.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
Look, you can work, all right.
Speaker 6 (59:22):
So the way the way it's set up is week
we normally go out there for like I think it's
like five days or something more, six days on the
first day, travel day, next day, work day, then off
the next day, and then you got another work day,
then off the next so you know you can do whatever.
Oh okay, okay, okay, yeah, when you can do your business,
is your business. Oh and then I ain't rid of.
Speaker 1 (59:46):
No coverle Saints. You don't stay.
Speaker 5 (59:49):
They call me graveyard because when I leave the field
and bodies anywhere. So you know what I'm saying. All
I want you to do is bundling to him. You
ain't stay, just bundling to me.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
Don't he work? He don't even worry about that lamp
I got.
Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
I got that.
Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
I'll bring bring four linebackers or two to four linebackers.
Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Safety is everybody, So come I like that.
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
I like then you gotta look, you gotta look.
Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
You was on that twenty nineteen national championship team, that
great team, probably the greatest team, one of the greatest
teams ever assembled in college, arguably one of the greatest.
You can make a case it's the greatest offensive team.
But what you guys were able to do, you Joe
Joe Burrow was the quarterback in Jedda and Chase and
marshl and bad Masson, Clyde Edwards a layer and all
those great offensive line and the DB's like yourself, they
(01:00:42):
five Brian Kelly, how do you guys get back to
something similar to that with l s U that alums
and and and everybody in Boosters are proud to show
up the Death Valley.
Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
No, we cutn't somebody else tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Or honestly, I mean it's it really just comes down
the core.
Speaker 6 (01:01:00):
Whever they bring in whoever, it doesn't, It doesn't matter
who they bring in, Like as long as the players,
like they really buy into being at LSU, Like you know,
you can you can go to a certain school, you
can you can be from here and be from there.
But once you get to where you're at, like you
gotta know what the goal is and mind like like
(01:01:22):
yeah you're at this university, Yeah you're doing all this
and that, but the goal should be to get to
the next level. So once everybody come get into tune
with that, like and really break down like how can
we be great? Like That's that's what it's gonna take.
So I don't think it mattered like who who it
is or or what it takes from the I'm just
(01:01:43):
saying from a coaching standpoint like that, that doesn't matter.
Like it's the players buying it to themselves first and
then the coach like just.
Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Adding on to that mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
Because you got great facilities, tremendous fan base, stadium is
electric Death Valley at night.
Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
There's nothing like playing in Death Valley at night. Man.
Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
That's Derek Stingley Junior, the great All Pro cornerback from
the Houston, Texas d Things.
Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Thanks for some time tonight now.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Continued success. Stay healthy.
Speaker 5 (01:02:14):
Look when we talk to you in in January, I'm
gonna be looking at the stats because I know you
got three nine Like okay, hey o Jo, we got
to call it back up.
Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
You done got seven.
Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Yeah. I appreciate you, all.
Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
Appreciate you, man. Congratulations on all the success. Continue success.
We'll see you down the road. Bro all right, brok
Derek sting gentlemen,
Host
Shannon Sharpe
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