Shannon Sharpe issues a public apology to Commanders DT Daron Payne after Payne reached out and showed Unc the real clip revealing Lions WR Amon-Ra St. Brown threw the first punch! Shannon sets the record straight and apologizes directly to Payne on Nightcap. Plus, Unc, Ocho and Joe Johnson react to Jameis Winston being named the New York Jets starting QB over Russell Wilson and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Oh Joe, but gonna finally get a start Giants and
them head coach Mike Kafka revealed that Jameis Winston Russell
Wilson will start at quarterback and week eleven against the
Packers with Jackson Dart on the sideline. Man pass over Russ,
who was the start of the season, then went the
number two. Yes, Dark gets hurt. Russ goes the numbers,
(00:26):
He's numbers two. Still, Yes, Jamis leap frogsy, Oh Joe?
What what what do you what do you think? What
do you think about this?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I think I think the coaches, obviously in the interim
coaches trying to get a spark, a spark out of
the offense.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
They've seen enough, assuming.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
From Russell Wilson being the starter when Jackson Dart went
in and then hearing the reaction from the crowd and
the offense really not being able to to get going.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
They want something new.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
They want to see what Jamis Jameis Winston can get
in there and do and see if they can have,
you know, somewhat of a spark. We all know he
is one that's like by everybody and he can have
flashes of brillings on the field. The only thing with
Jamis Winston. All we need is a little consistency. Can
we consistency out of you week in and week out
and give us a chance? Listen, I think our playoff
(01:13):
their playoff chances are probably out the door. But can
you keep keep keep us, keep our team in head
above water and let us compete, you know, until the
end of the season.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Well, I'm sure Jack will come back. What maybe what
in two weeks on?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Probably so at least, I mean he's gonna well, he's
out this week. Maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe they missed.
Maybe give him two weeks, Oh, Joe, because, like I said,
since the preseason, this is the fourth time we know
he's been checked for a concussion. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, Joe.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Uh So this is jameson first time getting getting action
during the season.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, this is Jamis the first time starting for the Giants.
I think I think he played. He played a little bit.
He played I think one preseason game, he played a
one preseason game, played really well. But like what you're saying, Jamis'
problem has always been consistent consistency. Look, he's the number
one pick in the draft. He won the Heisman Trophy
as a freshman, he led his team to a national championship,
(02:10):
so we know he has the talent to play, but
he's been turnover prone far too much.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
We know.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
We saw last year he threw for almost five hundred yards,
but it was the turnovers that really that really cost
this team of victory. Tremendous highs incredible lows. So he
just has to find a way to be consistent. And
if he can be consistent, that gives him a chance
to be successful, and it also gives a chance of
his team a chance to be successful. I want to
(02:42):
say I'm surprised, but I don't.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I don't think I am. I don't think I'm surprised
by this move, because.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Hey, I know one thing. I know one thing about
this move.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
It's gonna be exciting because ain't no telling what the
hell gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Anytime James is in.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
There ain't no telling. And I can't I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
And now he got the five and five. Yeah, no,
five tons down, five and seven. What I was talking
about when you left, I said, if he just if
he's just consistent. Oh, Joe the man is the number
one pick in the draft for a reason. He won
a Hosman Trophy, let his.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Team to the national champion.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yes, and turn it over though, O Jo, You're never
gonna be that great that you could overcome their minor
turnovers that he had. Remember last year, O Joe, what
was that a Thursday night game against the Broncos. He
threw for down there five hundred, but it was the
pig six. It was the three turnovers that ended up
undoing the great job that he had done. Remember Jerry
Judy goes back has two hundred and thirty five yards receiving.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
He and Jameis was cutting up.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, and then Jambs they started housing him, O Joe,
we uh the last guy we had on kse conception.
And there are some people in the chat kind of
making fun of him. They like, man, let everybody else
talk in a situation like that. I had already gotten
briefed that he has a speech impediment and when he
gets nervous or he gets anxious, he stirters, stutters. So
(04:07):
that's why you heard him repeat himself a lot. But
if you notice, Ocho, when we first started, he give
us one word answers and go yeah. And so instead
of go and let you ask some something, Let Joe
ask something. I said, let me let me get him comfortable,
let me get him relaxed. Once he gets relaxed, he'll
slow down and feel more comfortable. Because right every time
he talks, he thinks people are judging him. So if
(04:30):
you think somebody's judging him, what you're gonna do. I'm
not gonna talk and be reclusive, say one. I'm gonna
say as little as possible. Yeah, you're right, and then
he gonna clam up. But if you notice, once we
got him comfortable, we started talking about cooking, We started
talking about things that he likes and me feel comfortable with.
You see how open up and you couldn't even tell.
(04:50):
So that's why I kind of took the approach that
I took. And a lot of times, yeah, sometimes I'll
let Ocho because if it's somebody like I know Ocho knows,
I'll let Ocho lead it up. But in this situation,
I just felt, instead of going back ping Pong, you know,
tennis and ping Pong's back and forth, I just felt,
let me start it, let me get him comfortable. Somebody
that had the speech impediment still talks with the lists
(05:12):
to have a heavy cloacal Southern dialect. Let me make
him comfortable, and if we can get him comfortable, we
can get him to open up, because it's hard to
have an interview if a guy just continually gives us
one word answers. So that's kind of why they approached that.
We took the approach that we took to night with
this gentleman. But he did great look forward for him
to coming back, and once we started talking about hey,
he started cooking Valentine's Day and I just hope you
(05:37):
got done what you need to get done before you
cook that you put them heavy potatoes and steak of
the system.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
She's going right to sleep. But uh, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I can't say that I'm surprised that James is getting
to start because you know why Russell is not gonna
be there next year.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
They've already seen what Russ can do.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Let's see if let's see if Jamos can give us
that spark, because that's what Jackson Dark did. Jackson Dark
came in and gave him a spark. O. Joe, Yeah, yeah, Now,
let's see, let's see because they saw Russ come in
and the offense just went in the tank. The defense
went in the tank. Everything just went to hell in
a hand basket. They said, let's see if Jamos can
(06:21):
give us a spark. He like he's done so many
times before. He did it in New Orleans for a while.
He did it in Cleveland last year. So let's see
if you can give us a spark.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Eagles quarterback jah He Alexander has stepped away from football
a wing retirement. As according to Diana Rassini, Alexander is
twenty eight in its eighth professional season and it's first
away from the Packers, the team that drafted him eighteenth
out of Louisville in twenty eighteen. On November first, the
Ravens traded Alexander and excuse me and a twenty twenty
seventh seventh round pick to the Eagles for a twenty
(06:55):
twenty six sixth round pick. Alexander played just two games
for Baltimore before for being moved, telling five tackles, O Joe,
What's what's going on?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Is you know, you know, injuries?
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Is it desire? What? What? What? What are you the combination?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I'm gonna be honest with you when it comes to
someone that that I that I've always enjoyed watching like
J Alexander, understanding what he brings to the table as
as a defender. Obviously, I think injuries have hampered his
career a little bit and it does kind of derailed everything.
So I don't know what's going on with him mentally,
but it has to be something of that nature, because
(07:33):
getting the opportunity to play in the NFL and understanding
that NFL stands for not for long. You only get
so much time, you know, and and each year is
so precious as as years go by, it has to
be something going wrong there. Maybe it maybe maybe it's personal,
whatever it may. Maybe I don't I don't want to speculate,
but if he needs to step away from the game
to get his mind right, to get his personal issues right,
(07:56):
then then then so be it. I see that fit
because that does come first. Football comes second to whatever
you have going on in your life. So I hope
he rectified that situation, you know, expeditionally, so he can't
get back on the field and we can get that
same Jay Alexander we once saw down a Green Bay.
Because that he's he's a great talent, he's a great
talent and a great fit for he is now.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
So I hope he I hope he comes back at some.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Point and is able to contribute defensively when those boys
make that playoff push.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Well, yeh what year? What year is this for him?
How many years have been? Eight? Yeah, you know he's
on eight years of age.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
A DB's play a long time, Joe. They can play
a long time.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
If if.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
You gotta The thing is, as you start to get older,
it's a it's a mental grind because you know stuff.
I mean, you know, you know coverages, and you know,
you know how to study film. You understand down in distance,
you understand uh, position on the field. Uh, you understand
you know, you know, you understand tendencies u uh, route.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Combinations, why receiver? How they lined up? O Joe.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So you know all of that. But boy, this here
got to be strong because they get so monotonous. You
hear the same thing. That's what really, you know, for me,
that's what you kind of drove me away, is that
the monotony of it. I just could if maybe if
I went to a different offense and I had to
apply myself.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
But but he.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Dealing with a knee injury, and there's Joe. You know this,
o Jo, you ain't up being injured. So you know, Joe,
you know this. When you're injured, there ain't nothing like,
there's nothing worse than being injured and trying to go
play and then play at a level that people are
accustoming you playing at right. Because if the mind ain't right,
the grind can't be tight, sir, because that's what the NFL,
(09:40):
that's what pro sports is.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
This is a grind.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, and you hear, if you hear Lebron, Lebron don't
never say anything about his body. He always talks about
his mind.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
He said.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Long as I can keep my mind sharp, I can
play twenty three, twenty four, twenty five season.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Yeah, Because some injuries poule up, Bro, they pile up,
and you can't. You can't go out there and be
the person who you you know you really want to
be because of these injuries, these knickknacks that you may have,
and it hinders your game, man, It hinders your game,
and it takes a love away. It takes a love away,
It takes a love and passion away. And that's why
(10:14):
a lot of guys retire earlier, they quit playing it's
not it's not that they don't like football and basketballs
because the grind has become too.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Much, especially if you, o Jo, if you're an elite player,
see if you're if you're a special teams player or
a player that you know you're the fourth corner, there
ain't no expectations. But see once you're here, like a
Penny Hardaway, we got we got Penny up here, like, man,
(10:43):
I can't, man, I can't do this. Yeah, you can't.
Gi A Lexander was an All Pro. He's a Pro
Bowl player. Oh Joe, and he got I like, oh Jo,
something ain't right. I told you say, oh Yo, something
ain't right. You can look at him and telling I like, man,
I don't why this man. I watched this man coming.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
To the league. He's with one of the better corners.
He looked like a shall of himself. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And when you watch yourself, if you watch yourself on tape,
because sometimes you might not know it until you see it,
because we get a lot of times on your people
like I ain't say that.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I ain't say that. Run the tape. Yeah, oh my goodness,
that's me. I said that.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, So you don't see yourself play in real time.
You got to go back and watch the tape and
you looking like the film don't lie at all. The
reason why film don't lie. The film don't don't know
how much money you make it. It don't know if
you're black, if you white. You went to know the Dame,
(11:46):
you went to Savannah State. That's all it does. It
captures what is being focused on. Man, what and you can't, Man,
I did this? I did that? Let me hit that
rewind button. Yeah, tell me what you one did?
Speaker 5 (12:00):
What? What?
Speaker 6 (12:01):
What?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Joe? Joe? What did you? Joe? What did you say?
You did? Okay, here, listen, let's watch it. It ain't
nothing worse. It ain't nothing worse than that the game.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Boy, you get in there and coach got that clicker
and he rewinding this same play and you and and
you like, oh my god, like watching yourself on film, bro,
and you look like some slou stir fried.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Yes, yes, hey, look I used to be in the
game thinking like, boy, I cannot look like tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Same thing. Joe ain't gonna assignments. Yeah, we gotta win
this game because if we lose this game, they're gonna
show this film. Lord, please let us Hey, john Please
make her play. Let us come back, because I don't
want nobody to see the boy I was. I was terrible.
What hey, Sean, what you doing this play? I think
I got it. Nothing nothing, that's what Sean did on
(12:53):
this play. Absolutely totally nothing. That's what Sean did. But
but it's tough. It's tough when you've been a really
good player for a period of time and then injuries
won't allow.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
You to be back. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, yeah, people don't know you're injured. Let me tell
you something else. They don't give a damn if you're injured.
Oh you know if they see they see Alexander on
the back of that jersey, they saw Johnson on the
back of that jersey, They on your sink on the
back of that jersey.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
They don't give a damn about you.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Got an ankle or a toe or knee or hip
or back, and give us a damn about that. You
out there, I'm expecting you to make the same plays
that I've seen you make time and time again for
the last five ten years. Make them now, yes, sir, mm,
absolutely right. Your teammates have the same expectations, and they
(13:44):
put that Your teammates put that pressure on you. Hey,
you're gonna be you gonna ay, you be good to
go Sunday, right, damn, dude.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Is Tuesday? Hey?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Hey, you know hey, and then the coaches, you know,
we're gonna put the game plan now, we know we
relying on you because we got you.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
In the game playing. Y'all ain't have me in the
game plan before I got her. Now you got me in.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
The game playing now oo yeah, now I'm in the
game playing.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
But it's tough.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I've been in Jayard's shoes where I've been injured and
knowing I'm hurt, but all they see is eighty four
and they see sharp on the back of that jersey.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Yep, that's what they see.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Expectations don't change, Oh.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Jo, You're gonna like this story.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
On his way home from blowing out the Bills, Dolphins
coach Mike McDaniel drove by elbow ebel elbowroom, elbowroom at Barwood.
Bills fans congregate when Buffalo's in town to troll their fans.
McDaniel was asked about it today. Let's take a listen
to what he had to say.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Hour is that real?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
But you know that's it.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
That's why I like the good old days, you know,
the throwbacks of your where you can trust you know,
the the internet and the images because you know that
is pretty detail that you know I do live in
that area, but I mean a I right, so.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
It doesn't.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
It confirmed. Did not mean I live in that area.
AI is real.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
That's what I got for you, Okay, I like I
like it.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Two things can be true. He can live in that area.
What three things? He lives in that area? AI is real?
Speaker 5 (15:43):
And that was him?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Hey, which one is it?
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Do you think it?
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Really?
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Old? Hillis hell? Is that him right there? You heard me?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
You got hey, listen, I'm looking at it. You gotta
be careful though, because you know I don't play that.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
If that is that? Oh yoe so so so A.
I put him in a bi They could have put
him in any other car.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
No, that's that's a Benz. He driving bens a Bentley.
So they could have put it. So they ain't put it.
They ain't put him in. No, they ain't put him
in no hard dae. They ain't put him in no
super they ain't put him in nothing. They put him
in that damn.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Who's that? Hey?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
And that's funny though, that's funny. That's funny. I like
I like Mike Man.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
You beat a team for the first time in seven meetings.
It's your first time beating says twenty twenty two. M hm, yes, sir,
And that's what you got. What's the Dolphins record? Have
a little fun Huh, you have a little fun. Hey,
wait a minute, he just drives. He's just driving by.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
First of all, I don't know many most people that
are fanous, they ain't got their window down so you
can see him.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Oh, this is Miami.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
I know.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
What I know is that.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
A down Hey listen, hey, down here in Miami, even
the locals famous.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
You hit me schedule, pull up the first the first
ten games.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I got some coffee on I hit a wall. I
got some coffee. Now my baby, my baby doesn't see
me some coffee. We could be on the bitch at
three o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Now I'm ready. We got uh.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
We we pull up, we pull up. We're pulling. Uh,
we pull up the schedule because I want to know.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I'll tell you one thing one about I can tell
you one thing about the schedule. Getting ready to pull up.
If the Dolphins played like they played against the goddamn Bills.
We'll run the god damn I'll tell you that, and
I'm very confident with that. I'm very common.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Uh, when they lost thirty three to eight to the
Coat he lived in that area? Did he ride through
with the winner down? I would do I would do
you like Jazz mccrockett did. It's a yeah? So no,
my colleagues want me to ask you he said yes
or no? So when they lost thirty three to eight
to the Coast, yes or no? Did he ride by
slow with the window down, with his arm out the
window where it was hard to because it was when
(18:11):
they lost to the Patriots at home thirty three seven
thirty three twenty seven?
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Did he do that then?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Now that he didn't do it, I didn't do it?
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Then?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, he didn't do it that again?
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Oh so what about the charger.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Over that eight? That was another one on Did he
do it?
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Did?
Speaker 7 (18:28):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
He had to go the other way.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Oh okay, so he moved. He just moved in this area.
He just moved in this neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, he didn't got that, lady, Let mess your question.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
That when they lost twenty eight to six to Miami.
Did I mean did he drive slow homie? Did he
hull a Paul Wall? Did he drive slow home? Or
did he pull a wheel spill? For you know, summer time?
Two miles an hour was everybody's sees how much.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Much much time?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
And that's what you know about that. I'm gonna sit
back and unwine.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
No, I think that, but that's a that's not his.
I think that's a I think the Brothers or somebody
did that was original brothers or they.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Got they got they got the original.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Earth winding fire? Did the might have been earth winding fire?
Mm hm oh?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Everybody, even coaches doesn't got to be paidy now because
hold on, I think, didn't Sean Payton have the have
the bus drive through the city because that used to
be a thing to have the bus driver drive through
the drive around in the stadium for real.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
That's funny.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Yeah, And you know you know what I do? Like
you don't, you don't.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
You don't really get this some coaches sometimes I think players,
I know, I know it's players love what the broad
Street player rocky. Yeah, Sean Payton got that kind of person.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Man, See this is that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I would like, like we beat somebody, but you gotta
be careful, like you play the Raiders back with the
Raiders with Oakland.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Oh no, you ain't doing were you playing them?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Need to be the man. They're gonna throw a whole
car battery through that window. Hold on without thinking twice.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
It's cooling the game game twice some I think it's
called summer madness. That yeah, yeah, cooling.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, oh Joe, contrary to what you think a lot
of these songs that's being played that you really.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Really love, it's yours samples.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Okay, uh.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
But not look oh ay any and it's Madden. So hey,
I'll put you in a Madden madded billy. They ain't
make it. They ain't make it regular black, white, blue.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Oh jo, they got it Madden right, Oh my god,
hold on, I need I grabbing sugar.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Man said, hey, look, I'm fin to have some fun.
We finally got it. We finally got a win. After
hold on, how many losses we finally got a win?
Oh well, this's the one, two three. They had lost
four the last five.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
So yeah, yeah, we had we had we had we
had to had the stunt on them. But hey, I
got to try to have some fun. They gotta they
got a big game. What they of Spain?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
They played, don't they played? They play the commanders, right,
they played the commanders in Spain. So, oh yeah, I
beat up. I leave my flight at eight eight in
the morning. Hey, hey, what's what's what's splend splendor?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
You ever heard of that?
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Yeah? Most people have. Hm. Yeah, it's a uh, it's
a substitute. Wow, what's up? What's going on? None?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I got my coffee, but they send my coffee without
putting uh put the sugar. I ain't never seen no
splendor before. Most of the time I just get brown sugar,
white sugar. Yeah, what you know, Catholic gonna let you latte?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Okay? Sure?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So uh.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
So you ain't got no problem. You ain't got no
problem with this.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Oh hell no, you know I'm you know, I'm pad
I'm petty anyway, you know I'm petty. Even after when
even he listened and people people say, oh, y'all gotta
lose the record.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Well, we didn't lose a night, so I'm gonna have
some fun.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
We didn't lose a night, and he he had Mike
McDaniel has the personality he does.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Absolutely we got new video has emerged deron Pain punching
Aman Ross Saint Brown. Okay, after this video, we well
we're gonna watch. We can't show the video. I'm a
firm believer. God, y'all know who I am. I was
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the strongest, and and and and and what I thought
dron Pain did was absolutely wrong. Dron Pain reached out
to me today on DM and he was very very respectful,
and I'm not gonna get to the to the specifics,
but but basically he said, O G, I appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
I love the way you played the game.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Everything that you was able to accomplish, you were great,
he said, But I didn't unprompt just unload on no boy.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
And he said he sent me the video.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Since I was the strongest and my my critique of
dron Pain, let me be the loudest and say, bro,
I'm sorry. I'm sorry for judging you without knowing all
the facts, because all I know is what was shown
arm and Ross Saint Brown absolutely hit this man unprompted.
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They were in a little shoving back and forth and
then he got a little quick win in on shoe.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
You know how we do it a little thing. Nobody
look uncle Chicken Wing, Yes, Jabon kid Law.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I owe you an apology too, because you said he
did hit Duran Pain first, and we didn't. I didn't
believe you, so I want to apologize to you. But
the biggest apology goes to Dran Pain. And I'm glad
you did it because, like my grandma used to say,
I might not break I might not stop you, but
I damn sure break your habit. I guarantee you. Armand
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Ross Saint Brown was dead ass wrong, Duran Pain. You
should have see you don't get to do something to
somebody and didn't talk about that was an old reaction.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Keep your hands to yourself, you said. He told me.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Now, this is what armand Ross Saint Brown said Sunday
and Money before the video surface.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
And say yeah he hit it because now he don't
have a leg to stand on. Ojo and Joe. He said,
you know, back and forth.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
He didn't say nothing too crazy, but he never mentioned
the part that he hit Duran Pain in the face first.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
That never came out of his mouth.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Duran Pain. I'm sorry, bro, I am so sorry. As
a man, I'm never and I've told you guys, y'all
heard me say this on Undisputed. I'm never gonna be
too big to say I'm sorry. I'm never gonna be
too prideful. I'm never gonna be too wealthy. I'm never
gonna be anything where I can't say I'm sorry. I
was wrong, Duran paid, I was wrong. You should have
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you should I wish you had knocked his ass out.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Oh whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa woa he keep your hands.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Keep your hands to yourself, O, Joe. Your grandma told
you that. Your mom told you that, Joe, I know
you heard it because you from this till you from
the South look at Miami like the South like we
look at like we look at you like we look
at Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi or arg all those. Go Aheadjo, I.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Understand you're supposed to keep your hand to yourself. I understand.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
So before you go with Joe, can I ask the
NFL what punishment are y'all gonna live against Arma Ross
Saint Brown.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I don't know, but listen, you know the rules. You
know the rules, and they talk about it in meetings
before season starts, about getting angry. They always see the
second person that throws a punch. They always see the
second person that shoves every time. So I'm a rock
Brown is playing a game within the game. Understanding, Well,
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hell on, I'm a chicken weaning. I'm a chicken weaning,
you know, and see if I can get him in
trouble real quick.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
And it worked.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
It worked, and he lost his temple. You know, the
game within the game. How can I get under somebody's
skin to get my team an advantage.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Now, it was wrong, Yes, it was wrong.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
It was wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, I'll be the first to say it. But you
know it's it's it's trick. It's tricks in the trade.
Now you say you should have knocked him out. Now,
I don't think that would have happened because they would
have had to jumped Ron.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Now, we don't want that to happen.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Now, they would have.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
You said, he ain't know, You said no, nobody grabb
it when he slapped, when he slapped five from him,
the official standing right there, because.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Oh, your hair is the thing. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Maybe let's just say, for the sake of argument, Joe
and Joe the official didn't see it, but just like
they replayed it, and saw what Duran Duran Pain did.
I guarantee you they replayed it and saw what Arman
Ross Saint Brown did. Hey, so did they did they
find to suspend d Ran Pain? They suspended for one
game without pay?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Uh huh?
Speaker 5 (27:42):
So they so now that they go back and look
at the tape, what's gonna happen? I'm on, Saint Brown.
I don't know, but.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Something of fine should be levied. Keep your hands and
your feet to yourself. If you blocking me, I get that,
you payingcake me and step in my chest that, but
keep your hands to yourself, especially on that football field,
because I can do anything I want to and it's
not a crime. They might suspend me, they might throw
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a penalty, but it's not a crime. Keep your hands
to yourself. I don't know what possessed him to do
what he did. That's a grown man. I don't know
if that Ron Payne has a wife. I don't know
if he has kids or anything. But keep your My
grandma used to always say, boy, keep your hands and
your feet to yourself. She say, boy, if somebody put
their hands or their feet on him, you do everything
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you can to try to break them.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Hey, you heard what you just said? Right, Hey, hey, Joe,
I told you that story. I told you that story
were Ray knocked my himet off and hey, hey, were
you laughing, Joe?
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Joe?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Why I was in the locker room looking for Ray
White and we we weren't even playing at home, we
were playing it.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
That was two weeks later. You was unconscious. You don't
even remember when y'all looking for Ray. Two weeks later,
y'all was playing the Bills. Ray played for the d.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
What sugar?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Hey, hey, hey, I would look a bit sugar after
that game.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I'm telling you, like, hold on, Joe, I will upset, right,
and I'm thinking to myself, hold on that.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Me and Ray we prayed before the game. We go
over a script before every game, whether we're playing each
other or not.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
You know, we like this your Yeah, we just said
a prayer before the game and we get in. We
get in the game, and now you act like you
don't know me, but we prayed.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
You just try to knock my hammet off. Hold on,
my hamlet went.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Flying by thirty yard, Joe, I said, he look, Joe,
you know in between them lines, ain't no friend.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Yeah, list he probably prayed he don't.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
He don't know, he don't really knock you knock you
out out, hey, But you gotta realize, do guys defensive
players go to a different place man?
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, Hey, I wasn't in a different place after the
game because I was in your locker.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Room security ago.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, Hey, Joe, Joe, they had to come get me
out the locker room. Joe, while you hit me, well,
you know, but you don't do nothing like that. But
if if we do, Joe, you can't sit there and
say a prayer with me. We can't read the scripture,
and you go out there and try to kill me
on the field.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Can do that? Now? He was saying, Lord, forgive me
what I'm about to do to Joe. Lord.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I know I've come a long way and I'm trying
to do better in my life. But any saying that
I commit on this field today, please forgive them a.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Hey, Joe.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
And the funny thing about it, Joe, is when when
people ask me who is your favorite team to go against,
it was always the race.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
It was.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
It was always the Ravens and the Steelers, Joe, because
one thing about it, I call it a two ten
strap game.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Joe.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
You had that you got you had to bring two
ten strap to that goddamn game, joe.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Hey, and you had to get for sleeping night for
that game. And if Joey was hell, it was hell.
And I enjoyed it because you had no choice but
the razor level of play. You had no for the
raising level play. And then you got my crazy ass
who talked shit during the week and give everybody bullety
board material on purpose, you know. So, I mean there
was some of the some of the some of the
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joyous time for me during them days. Man, I loved it, man,
I loved it. I loved great, great, I mean still
to this day.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Man.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Just being able to being able to see and and
stay in contact. That's why I like social media so much.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Most of the time, like you know, back in your days,
you kind of lose touch with everybody unless you go
to a certain event.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
It make it so much easy, Joe, Man, it just
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
So, I don't know if Duran paint Duran, I don't
know if you're watching this, but I hope you get this.
I hope you hear it for yourself. But if somebody,
if you don't hear it for yourself, Hopefully someone close
to your family, friend or loved one gets you this
and let them and tell you Shannon Sharp did, and
it did. Indeed apologize because you were not wrong. You
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were wrong for getting caught. You wasn't wrong for what
you did, because everybody keep the hand you grown out here.
Ain't nobody until I to my knowledge, arm and Ross
Saint Brown ain't got no kids any damn sure, ain't
got no kids. Thirty thirty one years of age. Keep
your hands to yourself. Treated like the zoo with what
they tell you, Oh Joe, when you go to the zoo.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
In your hands, hold on Animi's them, don't don't test nothing.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
I tell him that matter of fact.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Unless you catch the past or blockie keeping damn hands
in your pocket, give me a little fan with the
look the mother with your hand warmers. You won't because
I'm telling you he did right, oh Joe. But see
the problem that I have is that he lied, and
he had everybody believing that he did absolutely nothing until
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he got caught.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
And then to I think it was today, he's like, yeah,
I kind of nudged you. It don't matter.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
You don't get hold on you step on my foot
I say, oh, I ain't even really step on your
foot that hard.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
You don't get to tell me how hard you stepped
on my foot. That's my foot. These feet made for
me to walk on, not you to.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Walk on him.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Yeah, Duran pay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Javon Kenlaw, I'm sorry because you also came out and
said that he did hit him first, And I said, man,
that man ain't hit that man first. Oh y, yes,
saying oh yo, what likelihood of a wide receiver going
around sluck?
Speaker 5 (33:16):
And he did it.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
It don't matter how hard it was. It was the
mere fact that you did something that you didn't have
no business doing. And then he knocked fine from you
and you're talking about oh you know it. No, no, Duran,
I'm sorry, And they should give you your money back. Yeah,
but I guarantee you I bet he won't hit another
d lineman.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
In the face. What you want to bet o, Joe?
I don't know. I don't know, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
One thing about his receivers were the we're the most
dominant position on the field, you know, whether.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
We got the ball in the hands or not.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Here you go.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
I don't I don't know. If I don't know, if anybody.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Saying that.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
A lesson with a consequence of actually, with our consequences,
there is no lesson learning. Wait a minute, you know
what I'm saying, Joe without consequences, there is no lesson learned.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Yeah, now they they He'm not fire from it. Yeah,
the NFL is gonna come down with something on Saint Brown.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
No, no, they not many Listen, listen the NFL. The
NFL is already handicapped that. The NFL has already handicapped
the game a lot. They've already taken some of the words,
some worries, some of the character, you know, some of
the character away from the game and and what made it,
what made it fun, what made it exciting. Now, before
I keep going, I need you to give me that
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line one more time.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Actions without consequences, there is no lesson learned.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
That's good with Joe. I'm gonna use that one.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Ron Payne, you did right. You should have hit him
so hard on the top his head. He peeped out
his ribs and thought he.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Was in jail. He right, An, I ain't getting you
no more. I'm done for a minute.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Hey, hey, bring that back one more time, Like a
DJ I.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Said, d Ryan Payne should have hit him so hard
on the top of his head. He peep out of
his ribs and thank he in jail.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
But you got it though. Yeah, yeah, I might not
stop that act, but I bet I break your the habit.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Okay, he doesn't drop two gems early, but the show
just started.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Hold on, okay, Ojoe, he got abundan that he got
abundant him into when he when he when did you
see how fart swung back? Yes, sir, he swung back
from Prince George. Yeah, he got up under that. That's
what Joe, Joe. There wasn't there was the more cartoon slaps.
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You want to save the cartoon? Yeah, and he was
pissed off.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
He couldn't. He couldn't help it.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Absolutely, absolutely so, I don't have any problem after seeing
the video, after having him explain what happened, and he.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Said, O g I ain't just look, I ain't just
swing on. Old boy. He did what he did.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Send me the video. I tapped on it, looking at him.
They little hand fighting and then he tried to get
a quick win.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
He yet, hey, little chicken man, I know what he
talking about. I used to I used to do it.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Too, and as aid, the press conference from Michael Pennick Jr.
(36:57):
Is gone viral. O Joe, Let's take a listen to
what he had to say.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Mentally, I like my fiance.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
She's always there for me, so I know whenever I
get home, it doesn't matter how I played, She's always
gonna be there for me. She's gonna have a smiler
face and give me a hug and make me feel
feel good no matter what. But as far as you know,
as far as like physically the on the field stuff,
it's not nobody that I'll talk to, like as far
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as another quarterback or anything like that. You know, I
do have people reach out to me. I do have
quarterback coaches go back at home that that reach out
to me as well. You know, tell me, hey, like
you need to clean this up, clean that up, you know,
and everything would be good. So those guys help me
as far as that too, so I can shout out them.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
You know, you know what, I would love to hear
the question that was asked.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
I would love to hear the question that was asked
for better context, because I'm sure he has quarterback coaches
on the sideline. He had he had young he has
quarterback coaches on the sideline, and I'm sure they're talking
about the totality of after a game on what it
looked like. I think that that has to be the
contant of the question, because bringing up your fiance and
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no matter how I played, when I come.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
On, you know she's there for me.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
No, am I am? I wrong? Am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (38:19):
If I'm wrong?
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Let me know what what do you say? What are
you saying about his fiance? Oh?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
How how she said?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
No matter how I played, that she's always there for
me when I come, when I come home, always smiling.
But if anything with the first thing your fiance is
voted to say, oh no, oh no, honey, you ain't
feeling embarrassed me like that.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
It's supposed to be no ke you laughing. It's supposed
to be tough love it got if you play bad,
she's supposed to be the first one.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Baby.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Come on, come come on, come on, r m P.
Come on, don't do that now. You know you can
play better than that.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
You know you have your unk. No, don't, don't.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Don't have with them.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Why they know how to break down that understand the game.
It can break it down for you. Oh my goodness
that now you're coming home with something like that, not
that old Oh baby, you played bad, it's okay. No,
honey is not okay.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
You can't embarrass the family like that. You can't do that.
You can't embarrass the Pennock's last name like that.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Now I'm just throwing out hypotheticals, you know, not you
coming home and the wife no matter how you play.
Oh it's okay, No, it's you know, tough love is
okay sometimes and the best person to hear tough love
from is the one closest to you.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yes, I'm fuck. So they ask him what coaches that
he does he rely on lean on?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Okay, okay, okay, yeah, like who did?
Speaker 5 (39:40):
Like okay, Oh, Joe, you going through a tough time,
is there's somebody that you lean on? Okay? Boom? I
like that.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
I like that question because the first thing the coaches
that would lean on most of the time, it wouldn't
be my coach in Cincinnati if things aren't going right,
and it's someone I need to lean on now in game,
Hugh Jackson, in game, you know, Alex, would you know
some of those coaches that there?
Speaker 3 (40:02):
But if something is going right and I need. I
need to go back to the foundation on how it
was built.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Charles Collins nineteen ninety seven, when it all started, that
Santa Monica College running the sand Dude, the Manhattan sand
Duws back in the day.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Like, that's what That's what I'm leaning on. Um, that's
what I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
That's why when Michael Pennick said he mentioned coaches that,
okay with that question, that's what I'm leaning on. I'm
going back where it all started. Hey, coach man, what
you see. I don't know what's going on. You know,
I'm doing it. I'm rushing, I'm just whatever it may be.
Because he can see he can see it from a
different point of view than I can. He can see
it from a different point of view than my coaches do.
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Come a coaches, they see exit and those coach he
can see something they don't see even though they are
my receiver coaches.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
And guess what coach c looking out for you, that
receiver coach, you got five other guys, six other guys
that he got a coach.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, yeah, And the conversation would be they view they
viewing me in a different lens. And what he's saying
that is correct. So I think people were like, no,
that's not what NFL coaches are there. You're not gonna
be able to rely on your coaches. So I know
you're always surprised that he said that.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Well he can't go nope, no rah rah raheem got
fifty guys, sixty guys. He got to worry about that quarterback,
got that quarterback, coach, you got every Ain't nobody holding
your hand in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
They're not. So I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
I don't want to, Hey, I don't. I don't want
to come off as callous. I don't want to come
off as not being empathetic. But I'm just telling you
the sports business, this is a grown man's business. You
get paid the Kings, Rams and to play a kid's game.
They're not holding your hand. So I understand what he's
saying that when somebody to lean on, I'm calling my
former coach. I'm gonna call my brother.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
Mm hmm. What do you see? Am I am? I am?
Speaker 1 (41:55):
I missing something. I feel I'm leaving players out there,
but I don't know what I'm doing. Mm hmm, Hey,
send me a copy, let me let me, let me,
let me look at your practice. Let me see what
you Let me see what you look like in the game.
Send me, send me the game, cut up, send me practice,
let me see. Okay, So, uh, this is this is
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the cold, harsh world. This has always been like this.
And I think the thing is that this new generation
they think like it's high school and like, come on, son,
and the coach take you out to eat, put his
arm around you.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Oh no, ain't none of that. Ain't none of that,
because listen that right there, that'll get you.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
You lose your job. You you lose your job.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Players get coaches fires if you're not playing up the
par depending on who you are, depending on what round
you went in, you know, depending on how much you're making.
They ain't no coddling, ain't no cold in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Boy, This is this is this is business.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
These are excell and those we going over exit and
those Wedday, thirty, Friday and Sunday.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
We expect you to execute those exits. And o's.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Somebody said, somebody say he was your first round pick.
You don't want him succeed. How many first round picks
you think Atlanta got on their roster? So I guess
they're supposed to take him all out for brunch and breakfast.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Huhm, It don't work like that.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Uh, this is a different generation, oh, Joe, because this
house always been because the hair is the thing. This
is why in the military there's supposed to be no
fragnizer or higher up in subordinates, because there gonna be
certain times that you're gonna have to be like you know,
like what David did, and he put that basstiebe husband
in the front. But that was for a whole different reason,
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because it clouds your judgment. See, you gotta be careful
when you call on a certain player because it's gonna
make it much more difficult to get offset player if
and when you need to. That's why coach coach Belichick,
Heisman posed everybody. It was nothing for him to get
off a player. You know, Coach, you tell you that
long time. One of the most difficult thing it is
to do is cut a player. No that you built
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up so much you're numb to it, especially if you're
coaching fifteen years old, Joe, and you gotta cut when
it players a year for fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
They numb to it. Now they pretend, they pretend about it.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
The conversations they have for you when they ask you,
when they get that knock on your door, bring your playbook,
coach want to see you.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
Man.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
They got everything they probably said. They probably they probably
said the same thing everybody else. The only thing they
do they do different is they change the first name
when they greet you and let.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
You know, Yes, this is tough. Everything you got to do.
This is the worst part of my job. Nor you.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
You were really easy. But you know what I'm saying,
I'm just being real. You know, this is the tough
part of my job that nobody likes to do. They
sit in their chair like this and hey, come on in.
How you do it's up?
Speaker 5 (44:50):
Yeah? Yeah, you know, you just got caught up in
the the oh Joe, you know back, you just got
caught up in the number.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
It's just one of the number my daddy or that
numbers game.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
There's a possibility that we might now with the situation,
we might bring you back for the practice squad. But
we're gonna give you an opportunity to go out there
and see what's side there. And you know, yeah, I'm
just telling you how it is. I'm just all the
way honist with you. Yeah, And because a lot of
times you know, everybody has those aspirations. You don't go
to the NFL and say, well, if I get cut,
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it's okay. No, it hurts because for a lot of
these guys, this the end of something that they've been
doing since they were seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven years old. Yeah,
so the end is never easy. Oh you're a good movie,
you man. You don't you don't want a good movie
to go out be like damn, that's it. Yeah mm hmm, yeah,
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it's uh, it is tough. And having gone through that,
that's something that you didn't have to worry about being
a second round pick that I had to worry about
being a seventh round pick. And I remember you. I
remember like yesterday because we were stared at the Clarion Hotel,
uh by Centennial Airport. That's where all the private planes
come in at Centennial, and we're stared at the Clarity
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And I'll never ever forget the phone rang, so you know,
oh yae, we got two rooms, one phone me. I
ain't answer it, like they don't know, like they can't
come over there and knock on the.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
Door and say hey, hey, coach uh coach Reed want
to see you, right? And I remember phone ring. The
phone rang about three four times. I'm like, they know
we're in here. Oh ye where we go?
Speaker 3 (46:42):
At you at? You ain't picking up?
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Nah, you got to come. You gotta come fast? Picking
on pold dog. How would you give give me bad
news face to face? My roommate picked it up. After
a while, I see my door open. They got your boy. Man,
I say, damn, man, I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 5 (47:04):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, like man, he but you keep going, that's man
you name. As a matter we still I hadn't talked
to him. I mean I talked to him from time
to time.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
He came to see me playing Denver. He came to
see he came back to see me playing Denver. He
came to see me playing Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (47:24):
He came to the hall. Uh we we we we
We're still cool.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Be uh be mad. He'll tell you he called me.
He's still the only one that really called me double less.
But it was tough because you know, I was talking
about man, what I wanted to do and X, Y
and Z. But you know what, Joe, at that time,
I had the Mercedes. My brother said, Nah, leave a
car home, don't nobody, He don't tell nobody you got it.
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Don't tell nobody you going up there. You're trying to
make a team. You ain't got no car, Okay, but
it's it's it's real. Ain't nobody, ain't no baby man,
you mom, I told you I had that five bruce.
I had a hole in my thigh in my quad.
They don't care up about that. They trying to find
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the best fifty three damn players that can possibly find
to make this team, and the and and the more
you can do, the better your chances are. Oh, you
not a starterist, You not to start the level starting defense?
Or how many special teams can you play? Put me
on kick return? I can play four to five, four
to six. I can't play on P A T.
Speaker 5 (48:32):
And I can't play pat block a field goal block,
but I can get you four of them. You ever
tackled anybody? Yeah, I play. I tackled.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
I hadn't tackled anybody since high school. Well, interception, but
I played defense in high school. Son, you gotta be
tough to play, you gotta be played. Be tough, bro,
I'm trying to make a squad. Tell me what you
need me to do, Tell me what to tell me
what my child. Tell me what my responsibility is. Once
you tell me my responsibility, oh, I'm gonna carry that out.
Speaker 5 (49:01):
My brother.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
My brother used tell me all the time, he said,
He say, bro, you do everything that you do better
than anybody else, do what they do, and you'll be fine.
Speaker 5 (49:11):
So that was my my singular focus. Oh Joe, I'm
gonna do what I do better than anybody else, do
what they do.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
That's all that's all that come that's all they come
down to.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
And uh uh but I lost oh Joe. I had
lost contact with him for like.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
Man for like eight for like eight years, and then
all of a sudden, Uh, he called the Broncos. They
a uh, they said, some guy named Brian, Brian mcpatter.
He tried to get in.
Speaker 5 (49:42):
Touch with you. I say, oh, I beat back. Yeah.
I called him.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
I said, ma'am, what the hell you being? You know
he went back and finished up school. Uh, and uh,
you know, we we stayed in contact and we lost
contact again.
Speaker 5 (49:56):
He hit me up.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (49:59):
I think he called the Ravens. It's like a Brian mcfather.
I said, yeah, huh, so I hit him up, brought
him out to uh to be more.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
And you know, then when I went to the hall,
I say, they are Jim Skamano, who was Uh, he's
like anybody that you need me to find. So him
he found them and found a couple of guys that
I was trying to get in touch with. It.
Speaker 5 (50:22):
For the most part, the guys that came out, you know,
I still knew where they were. Tried.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
I tried to get to touch the down the Lewis,
but I couldn't find him. But because he was the
guy that made me who I am. But guys, this
is different. This is the NFL. This ain't high school
where the coach gonna take your ass in, or this
is college where they they get that ain't what they
do at this level.
Speaker 5 (50:41):
I'm telling you, I ain't tell you what somebody told them.
I'm telling you what I know.
Oh Joe, but gonna finally get a start Giants and
them head coach Mike Kafka revealed that Jameis Winston Russell
Wilson will start at quarterback and week eleven against the
Packers with Jackson Dart on the sideline. Man pass over Russ,
who was the start of the season, then went the
number two. Yes, Dark gets hurt. Russ goes the numbers,
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He's numbers two. Still, Yes, Jamis leap frogsy, Oh Joe?
What what what do you what do you think? What
do you think about this?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I think I think the coaches, obviously in the interim
coaches trying to get a spark, a spark out of
the offense.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
They've seen enough, assuming.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
From Russell Wilson being the starter when Jackson Dart went
in and then hearing the reaction from the crowd and
the offense really not being able to to get going.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
They want something new.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
They want to see what Jamis Jameis Winston can get
in there and do and see if they can have,
you know, somewhat of a spark. We all know he
is one that's like by everybody and he can have
flashes of brillings on the field. The only thing with
Jamis Winston. All we need is a little consistency. Can
we consistency out of you week in and week out
and give us a chance? Listen, I think our playoff
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their playoff chances are probably out the door. But can
you keep keep keep us, keep our team in head
above water and let us compete, you know, until the
end of the season.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Well, I'm sure Jack will come back. What maybe what
in two weeks on?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Probably so at least, I mean he's gonna well, he's
out this week. Maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe they missed.
Maybe give him two weeks, Oh, Joe, because, like I said,
since the preseason, this is the fourth time we know
he's been checked for a concussion. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, Joe.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Uh So this is jameson first time getting getting action
during the season.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, this is Jamis the first time starting for the Giants.
I think I think he played. He played a little bit.
He played I think one preseason game, he played a
one preseason game, played really well. But like what you're saying, Jamis'
problem has always been consistent consistency. Look, he's the number
one pick in the draft. He won the Heisman Trophy
as a freshman, he led his team to a national championship,
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so we know he has the talent to play, but
he's been turnover prone far too much.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
We know.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
We saw last year he threw for almost five hundred yards,
but it was the turnovers that really that really cost
this team of victory. Tremendous highs incredible lows. So he
just has to find a way to be consistent. And
if he can be consistent, that gives him a chance
to be successful, and it also gives a chance of
his team a chance to be successful. I want to
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say I'm surprised, but I don't.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I don't think I am. I don't think I'm surprised
by this move, because.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Hey, I know one thing. I know one thing about
this move.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
It's gonna be exciting because ain't no telling what the
hell gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Anytime James is in.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
There ain't no telling. And I can't I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
And now he got the five and five. Yeah, no,
five tons down, five and seven. What I was talking
about when you left, I said, if he just if
he's just consistent. Oh, Joe the man is the number
one pick in the draft for a reason. He won
a Hosman Trophy, let his.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Team to the national champion.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yes, and turn it over though, O Jo, You're never
gonna be that great that you could overcome their minor
turnovers that he had. Remember last year, O Joe, what
was that a Thursday night game against the Broncos. He
threw for down there five hundred, but it was the
pig six. It was the three turnovers that ended up
undoing the great job that he had done. Remember Jerry
Judy goes back has two hundred and thirty five yards receiving.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
He and Jameis was cutting up.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, and then Jambs they started housing him, O Joe,
we uh the last guy we had on kse conception.
And there are some people in the chat kind of
making fun of him. They like, man, let everybody else
talk in a situation like that. I had already gotten
briefed that he has a speech impediment and when he
gets nervous or he gets anxious, he stirters, stutters. So
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that's why you heard him repeat himself a lot. But
if you notice, Ocho, when we first started, he give
us one word answers and go yeah. And so instead
of go and let you ask some something, Let Joe
ask something. I said, let me let me get him comfortable,
let me get him relaxed. Once he gets relaxed, he'll
slow down and feel more comfortable. Because right every time
he talks, he thinks people are judging him. So if
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you think somebody's judging him, what you're gonna do. I'm
not gonna talk and be reclusive, say one. I'm gonna
say as little as possible. Yeah, you're right, and then
he gonna clam up. But if you notice, once we
got him comfortable, we started talking about cooking, We started
talking about things that he likes and me feel comfortable with.
You see how open up and you couldn't even tell.
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So that's why I kind of took the approach that
I took. And a lot of times, yeah, sometimes I'll
let Ocho because if it's somebody like I know Ocho knows,
I'll let Ocho lead it up. But in this situation,
I just felt, instead of going back ping Pong, you know,
tennis and ping Pong's back and forth, I just felt,
let me start it, let me get him comfortable. Somebody
that had the speech impediment still talks with the lists
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to have a heavy cloacal Southern dialect. Let me make
him comfortable, and if we can get him comfortable, we
can get him to open up, because it's hard to
have an interview if a guy just continually gives us
one word answers. So that's kind of why they approached that.
We took the approach that we took to night with
this gentleman. But he did great look forward for him
to coming back, and once we started talking about hey,
he started cooking Valentine's Day and I just hope you
(05:37):
got done what you need to get done before you
cook that you put them heavy potatoes and steak of
the system.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
She's going right to sleep. But uh, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I can't say that I'm surprised that James is getting
to start because you know why Russell is not gonna
be there next year.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
They've already seen what Russ can do.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Let's see if let's see if Jamos can give us
that spark, because that's what Jackson Dark did. Jackson Dark
came in and gave him a spark. O. Joe, Yeah, yeah, Now,
let's see, let's see because they saw Russ come in
and the offense just went in the tank. The defense
went in the tank. Everything just went to hell in
a hand basket. They said, let's see if Jamos can
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give us a spark. He like he's done so many
times before. He did it in New Orleans for a while.
He did it in Cleveland last year. So let's see
if you can give us a spark.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Eagles quarterback jah He Alexander has stepped away from football
a wing retirement. As according to Diana Rassini, Alexander is
twenty eight in its eighth professional season and it's first
away from the Packers, the team that drafted him eighteenth
out of Louisville in twenty eighteen. On November first, the
Ravens traded Alexander and excuse me and a twenty twenty
seventh seventh round pick to the Eagles for a twenty
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twenty six sixth round pick. Alexander played just two games
for Baltimore before for being moved, telling five tackles, O Joe,
What's what's going on?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Is you know, you know, injuries?
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Is it desire? What? What? What? What are you the combination?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I'm gonna be honest with you when it comes to
someone that that I that I've always enjoyed watching like
J Alexander, understanding what he brings to the table as
as a defender. Obviously, I think injuries have hampered his
career a little bit and it does kind of derailed everything.
So I don't know what's going on with him mentally,
but it has to be something of that nature, because
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getting the opportunity to play in the NFL and understanding
that NFL stands for not for long. You only get
so much time, you know, and and each year is
so precious as as years go by, it has to
be something going wrong there. Maybe it maybe maybe it's personal,
whatever it may. Maybe I don't I don't want to speculate,
but if he needs to step away from the game
to get his mind right, to get his personal issues right,
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then then then so be it. I see that fit
because that does come first. Football comes second to whatever
you have going on in your life. So I hope
he rectified that situation, you know, expeditionally, so he can't
get back on the field and we can get that
same Jay Alexander we once saw down a Green Bay.
Because that he's he's a great talent, he's a great
talent and a great fit for he is now.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
So I hope he I hope he comes back at some.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Point and is able to contribute defensively when those boys
make that playoff push.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Well, yeh what year? What year is this for him?
How many years have been? Eight? Yeah, you know he's
on eight years of age.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
A DB's play a long time, Joe. They can play
a long time.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
If if.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
You gotta The thing is, as you start to get older,
it's a it's a mental grind because you know stuff.
I mean, you know, you know coverages, and you know,
you know how to study film. You understand down in distance,
you understand uh, position on the field. Uh, you understand
you know, you know, you understand tendencies u uh, route.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Combinations, why receiver? How they lined up? O Joe.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So you know all of that. But boy, this here
got to be strong because they get so monotonous. You
hear the same thing. That's what really, you know, for me,
that's what you kind of drove me away, is that
the monotony of it. I just could if maybe if
I went to a different offense and I had to
apply myself.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
But but he.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Dealing with a knee injury, and there's Joe. You know this,
o Jo, you ain't up being injured. So you know, Joe,
you know this. When you're injured, there ain't nothing like,
there's nothing worse than being injured and trying to go
play and then play at a level that people are
accustoming you playing at right. Because if the mind ain't right,
the grind can't be tight, sir, because that's what the NFL,
(09:40):
that's what pro sports is.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
This is a grind.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, and you hear, if you hear Lebron, Lebron don't
never say anything about his body. He always talks about
his mind.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
He said.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Long as I can keep my mind sharp, I can
play twenty three, twenty four, twenty five season.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Yeah, Because some injuries poule up, Bro, they pile up,
and you can't. You can't go out there and be
the person who you you know you really want to
be because of these injuries, these knickknacks that you may have,
and it hinders your game, man, It hinders your game,
and it takes a love away. It takes a love away,
It takes a love and passion away. And that's why
(10:14):
a lot of guys retire earlier, they quit playing it's
not it's not that they don't like football and basketballs
because the grind has become too.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Much, especially if you, o Jo, if you're an elite player,
see if you're if you're a special teams player or
a player that you know you're the fourth corner, there
ain't no expectations. But see once you're here, like a
Penny Hardaway, we got we got Penny up here, like, man,
(10:43):
I can't, man, I can't do this. Yeah, you can't.
Gi A Lexander was an All Pro. He's a Pro
Bowl player. Oh Joe, and he got I like, oh Jo,
something ain't right. I told you say, oh Yo, something
ain't right. You can look at him and telling I like, man,
I don't why this man. I watched this man coming.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
To the league. He's with one of the better corners.
He looked like a shall of himself. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And when you watch yourself, if you watch yourself on tape,
because sometimes you might not know it until you see it,
because we get a lot of times on your people
like I ain't say that.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I ain't say that. Run the tape. Yeah, oh my goodness,
that's me. I said that.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, So you don't see yourself play in real time.
You got to go back and watch the tape and
you looking like the film don't lie at all. The
reason why film don't lie. The film don't don't know
how much money you make it. It don't know if
you're black, if you white. You went to know the Dame,
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you went to Savannah State. That's all it does. It
captures what is being focused on. Man, what and you can't, Man,
I did this? I did that? Let me hit that
rewind button. Yeah, tell me what you one did?
Speaker 5 (12:00):
What? What?
Speaker 6 (12:01):
What?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Joe? Joe? What did you? Joe? What did you say?
You did? Okay, here, listen, let's watch it. It ain't
nothing worse. It ain't nothing worse than that the game.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Boy, you get in there and coach got that clicker
and he rewinding this same play and you and and
you like, oh my god, like watching yourself on film, bro,
and you look like some slou stir fried.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Yes, yes, hey, look I used to be in the
game thinking like, boy, I cannot look like tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Same thing. Joe ain't gonna assignments. Yeah, we gotta win
this game because if we lose this game, they're gonna
show this film. Lord, please let us Hey, john Please
make her play. Let us come back, because I don't
want nobody to see the boy I was. I was terrible.
What hey, Sean, what you doing this play? I think
I got it. Nothing nothing, that's what Sean did on
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this play. Absolutely totally nothing. That's what Sean did. But
but it's tough. It's tough when you've been a really
good player for a period of time and then injuries
won't allow.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
You to be back. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, yeah, people don't know you're injured. Let me tell
you something else. They don't give a damn if you're injured.
Oh you know if they see they see Alexander on
the back of that jersey, they saw Johnson on the
back of that jersey, They on your sink on the
back of that jersey.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
They don't give a damn about you.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Got an ankle or a toe or knee or hip
or back, and give us a damn about that. You
out there, I'm expecting you to make the same plays
that I've seen you make time and time again for
the last five ten years. Make them now, yes, sir, mm,
absolutely right. Your teammates have the same expectations, and they
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put that Your teammates put that pressure on you. Hey,
you're gonna be you gonna ay, you be good to
go Sunday, right, damn, dude.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Is Tuesday? Hey?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Hey, you know hey, and then the coaches, you know,
we're gonna put the game plan now, we know we
relying on you because we got you.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
In the game playing. Y'all ain't have me in the
game plan before I got her. Now you got me in.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
The game playing now oo yeah, now I'm in the
game playing.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
But it's tough.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I've been in Jayard's shoes where I've been injured and
knowing I'm hurt, but all they see is eighty four
and they see sharp on the back of that jersey.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Yep, that's what they see.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Expectations don't change, Oh.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Jo, You're gonna like this story.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
On his way home from blowing out the Bills, Dolphins
coach Mike McDaniel drove by elbow ebel elbowroom, elbowroom at Barwood.
Bills fans congregate when Buffalo's in town to troll their fans.
McDaniel was asked about it today. Let's take a listen
to what he had to say.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Hour is that real?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
But you know that's it.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
That's why I like the good old days, you know,
the throwbacks of your where you can trust you know,
the the internet and the images because you know that
is pretty detail that you know I do live in
that area, but I mean a I right, so.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
It doesn't.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
It confirmed. Did not mean I live in that area.
AI is real.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
That's what I got for you, Okay, I like I
like it.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Two things can be true. He can live in that area.
What three things? He lives in that area? AI is real?
Speaker 5 (15:43):
And that was him?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Hey, which one is it?
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Do you think it?
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Really?
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Old? Hillis hell? Is that him right there? You heard me?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
You got hey, listen, I'm looking at it. You gotta
be careful though, because you know I don't play that.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
If that is that? Oh yoe so so so A.
I put him in a bi They could have put
him in any other car.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
No, that's that's a Benz. He driving bens a Bentley.
So they could have put it. So they ain't put it.
They ain't put him in. No, they ain't put him
in no hard dae. They ain't put him in no
super they ain't put him in nothing. They put him
in that damn.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Who's that? Hey?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
And that's funny though, that's funny. That's funny. I like
I like Mike Man.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
You beat a team for the first time in seven meetings.
It's your first time beating says twenty twenty two. M hm, yes, sir,
And that's what you got. What's the Dolphins record? Have
a little fun Huh, you have a little fun. Hey,
wait a minute, he just drives. He's just driving by.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
First of all, I don't know many most people that
are fanous, they ain't got their window down so you
can see him.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Oh, this is Miami.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
I know.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
What I know is that.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
A down Hey listen, hey, down here in Miami, even
the locals famous.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
You hit me schedule, pull up the first the first
ten games.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I got some coffee on I hit a wall. I
got some coffee. Now my baby, my baby doesn't see
me some coffee. We could be on the bitch at
three o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Now I'm ready. We got uh.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
We we pull up, we pull up. We're pulling. Uh,
we pull up the schedule because I want to know.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I'll tell you one thing one about I can tell
you one thing about the schedule. Getting ready to pull up.
If the Dolphins played like they played against the goddamn Bills.
We'll run the god damn I'll tell you that, and
I'm very confident with that. I'm very common.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Uh, when they lost thirty three to eight to the
Coat he lived in that area? Did he ride through
with the winner down? I would do I would do
you like Jazz mccrockett did. It's a yeah? So no,
my colleagues want me to ask you he said yes
or no? So when they lost thirty three to eight
to the Coast, yes or no? Did he ride by
slow with the window down, with his arm out the
window where it was hard to because it was when
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they lost to the Patriots at home thirty three seven
thirty three twenty seven?
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Did he do that then?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Now that he didn't do it, I didn't do it?
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Then?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, he didn't do it that again?
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Oh so what about the charger.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Over that eight? That was another one on Did he
do it?
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Did?
Speaker 7 (18:28):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
He had to go the other way.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Oh okay, so he moved. He just moved in this area.
He just moved in this neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, he didn't got that, lady, Let mess your question.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
That when they lost twenty eight to six to Miami.
Did I mean did he drive slow homie? Did he
hull a Paul Wall? Did he drive slow home? Or
did he pull a wheel spill? For you know, summer time?
Two miles an hour was everybody's sees how much.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Much much time?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
And that's what you know about that. I'm gonna sit
back and unwine.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
No, I think that, but that's a that's not his.
I think that's a I think the Brothers or somebody
did that was original brothers or they.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Got they got they got the original.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Earth winding fire? Did the might have been earth winding fire?
Mm hm oh?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Everybody, even coaches doesn't got to be paidy now because
hold on, I think, didn't Sean Payton have the have
the bus drive through the city because that used to
be a thing to have the bus driver drive through
the drive around in the stadium for real.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
That's funny.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Yeah, And you know you know what I do? Like
you don't, you don't.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
You don't really get this some coaches sometimes I think players,
I know, I know it's players love what the broad
Street player rocky. Yeah, Sean Payton got that kind of person.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Man, See this is that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I would like, like we beat somebody, but you gotta
be careful, like you play the Raiders back with the
Raiders with Oakland.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Oh no, you ain't doing were you playing them?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Need to be the man. They're gonna throw a whole
car battery through that window. Hold on without thinking twice.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
It's cooling the game game twice some I think it's
called summer madness. That yeah, yeah, cooling.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, oh Joe, contrary to what you think a lot
of these songs that's being played that you really.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Really love, it's yours samples.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Okay, uh.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
But not look oh ay any and it's Madden. So hey,
I'll put you in a Madden madded billy. They ain't
make it. They ain't make it regular black, white, blue.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Oh jo, they got it Madden right, Oh my god,
hold on, I need I grabbing sugar.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Man said, hey, look, I'm fin to have some fun.
We finally got it. We finally got a win. After
hold on, how many losses we finally got a win?
Oh well, this's the one, two three. They had lost
four the last five.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
So yeah, yeah, we had we had we had we
had to had the stunt on them. But hey, I
got to try to have some fun. They gotta they
got a big game. What they of Spain?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
They played, don't they played? They play the commanders, right,
they played the commanders in Spain. So, oh yeah, I
beat up. I leave my flight at eight eight in
the morning. Hey, hey, what's what's what's splend splendor?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
You ever heard of that?
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Yeah? Most people have. Hm. Yeah, it's a uh, it's
a substitute. Wow, what's up? What's going on? None?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I got my coffee, but they send my coffee without
putting uh put the sugar. I ain't never seen no
splendor before. Most of the time I just get brown sugar,
white sugar. Yeah, what you know, Catholic gonna let you latte?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Okay? Sure?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So uh.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
So you ain't got no problem. You ain't got no
problem with this.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Oh hell no, you know I'm you know, I'm pad
I'm petty anyway, you know I'm petty. Even after when
even he listened and people people say, oh, y'all gotta
lose the record.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Well, we didn't lose a night, so I'm gonna have
some fun.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
We didn't lose a night, and he he had Mike
McDaniel has the personality he does.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Absolutely we got new video has emerged deron Pain punching
Aman Ross Saint Brown. Okay, after this video, we well
we're gonna watch. We can't show the video. I'm a
firm believer. God, y'all know who I am. I was
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the strongest, and and and and and what I thought
dron Pain did was absolutely wrong. Dron Pain reached out
to me today on DM and he was very very respectful,
and I'm not gonna get to the to the specifics,
but but basically he said, O G, I appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
I love the way you played the game.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Everything that you was able to accomplish, you were great,
he said, But I didn't unprompt just unload on no boy.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
And he said he sent me the video.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Since I was the strongest and my my critique of
dron Pain, let me be the loudest and say, bro,
I'm sorry. I'm sorry for judging you without knowing all
the facts, because all I know is what was shown
arm and Ross Saint Brown absolutely hit this man unprompted.
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They were in a little shoving back and forth and
then he got a little quick win in on shoe.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
You know how we do it a little thing. Nobody
look uncle Chicken Wing, Yes, Jabon kid Law.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I owe you an apology too, because you said he
did hit Duran Pain first, and we didn't. I didn't
believe you, so I want to apologize to you. But
the biggest apology goes to Dran Pain. And I'm glad
you did it because, like my grandma used to say,
I might not break I might not stop you, but
I damn sure break your habit. I guarantee you. Armand
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Ross Saint Brown was dead ass wrong, Duran Pain. You
should have see you don't get to do something to
somebody and didn't talk about that was an old reaction.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Keep your hands to yourself, you said. He told me.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Now, this is what armand Ross Saint Brown said Sunday
and Money before the video surface.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
And say yeah he hit it because now he don't
have a leg to stand on. Ojo and Joe. He said,
you know, back and forth.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
He didn't say nothing too crazy, but he never mentioned
the part that he hit Duran Pain in the face first.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
That never came out of his mouth.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Duran Pain. I'm sorry, bro, I am so sorry. As
a man, I'm never and I've told you guys, y'all
heard me say this on Undisputed. I'm never gonna be
too big to say I'm sorry. I'm never gonna be
too prideful. I'm never gonna be too wealthy. I'm never
gonna be anything where I can't say I'm sorry. I
was wrong, Duran paid, I was wrong. You should have
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you should I wish you had knocked his ass out.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Oh whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa woa he keep your hands.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Keep your hands to yourself, O, Joe. Your grandma told
you that. Your mom told you that, Joe, I know
you heard it because you from this till you from
the South look at Miami like the South like we
look at like we look at you like we look
at Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi or arg all those. Go Aheadjo, I.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Understand you're supposed to keep your hand to yourself. I understand.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
So before you go with Joe, can I ask the
NFL what punishment are y'all gonna live against Arma Ross
Saint Brown.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I don't know, but listen, you know the rules. You
know the rules, and they talk about it in meetings
before season starts, about getting angry. They always see the
second person that throws a punch. They always see the
second person that shoves every time. So I'm a rock
Brown is playing a game within the game. Understanding, Well,
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hell on, I'm a chicken weaning. I'm a chicken weaning,
you know, and see if I can get him in
trouble real quick.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
And it worked.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
It worked, and he lost his temple. You know, the
game within the game. How can I get under somebody's
skin to get my team an advantage.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Now, it was wrong, Yes, it was wrong.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
It was wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, I'll be the first to say it. But you
know it's it's it's trick. It's tricks in the trade.
Now you say you should have knocked him out. Now,
I don't think that would have happened because they would
have had to jumped Ron.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Now, we don't want that to happen.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Now, they would have.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
You said, he ain't know, You said no, nobody grabb
it when he slapped, when he slapped five from him,
the official standing right there, because.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Oh, your hair is the thing. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Maybe let's just say, for the sake of argument, Joe
and Joe the official didn't see it, but just like
they replayed it, and saw what Duran Duran Pain did.
I guarantee you they replayed it and saw what Arman
Ross Saint Brown did. Hey, so did they did they
find to suspend d Ran Pain? They suspended for one
game without pay?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Uh huh?
Speaker 5 (27:42):
So they so now that they go back and look
at the tape, what's gonna happen? I'm on, Saint Brown.
I don't know, but.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Something of fine should be levied. Keep your hands and
your feet to yourself. If you blocking me, I get that,
you payingcake me and step in my chest that, but
keep your hands to yourself, especially on that football field,
because I can do anything I want to and it's
not a crime. They might suspend me, they might throw
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a penalty, but it's not a crime. Keep your hands
to yourself. I don't know what possessed him to do
what he did. That's a grown man. I don't know
if that Ron Payne has a wife. I don't know
if he has kids or anything. But keep your My
grandma used to always say, boy, keep your hands and
your feet to yourself. She say, boy, if somebody put
their hands or their feet on him, you do everything
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you can to try to break them.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Hey, you heard what you just said? Right, Hey, hey, Joe,
I told you that story. I told you that story
were Ray knocked my himet off and hey, hey, were
you laughing, Joe?
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Joe?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Why I was in the locker room looking for Ray
White and we we weren't even playing at home, we
were playing it.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
That was two weeks later. You was unconscious. You don't
even remember when y'all looking for Ray. Two weeks later,
y'all was playing the Bills. Ray played for the d.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
What sugar?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Hey, hey, hey, I would look a bit sugar after
that game.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I'm telling you, like, hold on, Joe, I will upset, right,
and I'm thinking to myself, hold on that.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Me and Ray we prayed before the game. We go
over a script before every game, whether we're playing each
other or not.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
You know, we like this your Yeah, we just said
a prayer before the game and we get in. We
get in the game, and now you act like you
don't know me, but we prayed.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
You just try to knock my hammet off. Hold on,
my hamlet went.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Flying by thirty yard, Joe, I said, he look, Joe,
you know in between them lines, ain't no friend.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Yeah, list he probably prayed he don't.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
He don't know, he don't really knock you knock you
out out, hey, But you gotta realize, do guys defensive
players go to a different place man?
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, Hey, I wasn't in a different place after the
game because I was in your locker.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Room security ago.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, Hey, Joe, Joe, they had to come get me
out the locker room. Joe, while you hit me, well,
you know, but you don't do nothing like that. But
if if we do, Joe, you can't sit there and
say a prayer with me. We can't read the scripture,
and you go out there and try to kill me
on the field.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Can do that? Now? He was saying, Lord, forgive me
what I'm about to do to Joe. Lord.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I know I've come a long way and I'm trying
to do better in my life. But any saying that
I commit on this field today, please forgive them a.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Hey, Joe.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
And the funny thing about it, Joe, is when when
people ask me who is your favorite team to go against,
it was always the race.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
It was.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
It was always the Ravens and the Steelers, Joe, because
one thing about it, I call it a two ten
strap game.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Joe.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
You had that you got you had to bring two
ten strap to that goddamn game, joe.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Hey, and you had to get for sleeping night for
that game. And if Joey was hell, it was hell.
And I enjoyed it because you had no choice but
the razor level of play. You had no for the
raising level play. And then you got my crazy ass
who talked shit during the week and give everybody bullety
board material on purpose, you know. So, I mean there
was some of the some of the some of the
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joyous time for me during them days. Man, I loved it, man,
I loved it. I loved great, great, I mean still
to this day.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Man.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Just being able to being able to see and and
stay in contact. That's why I like social media so much.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Most of the time, like you know, back in your days,
you kind of lose touch with everybody unless you go
to a certain event.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
It make it so much easy, Joe, Man, it just
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
So, I don't know if Duran paint Duran, I don't
know if you're watching this, but I hope you get this.
I hope you hear it for yourself. But if somebody,
if you don't hear it for yourself, Hopefully someone close
to your family, friend or loved one gets you this
and let them and tell you Shannon Sharp did, and
it did. Indeed apologize because you were not wrong. You
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were wrong for getting caught. You wasn't wrong for what
you did, because everybody keep the hand you grown out here.
Ain't nobody until I to my knowledge, arm and Ross
Saint Brown ain't got no kids any damn sure, ain't
got no kids. Thirty thirty one years of age. Keep
your hands to yourself. Treated like the zoo with what
they tell you, Oh Joe, when you go to the zoo.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
In your hands, hold on Animi's them, don't don't test nothing.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
I tell him that matter of fact.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Unless you catch the past or blockie keeping damn hands
in your pocket, give me a little fan with the
look the mother with your hand warmers. You won't because
I'm telling you he did right, oh Joe. But see
the problem that I have is that he lied, and
he had everybody believing that he did absolutely nothing until
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he got caught.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
And then to I think it was today, he's like, yeah,
I kind of nudged you. It don't matter.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
You don't get hold on you step on my foot
I say, oh, I ain't even really step on your
foot that hard.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
You don't get to tell me how hard you stepped
on my foot. That's my foot. These feet made for
me to walk on, not you to.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Walk on him.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Yeah, Duran pay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Javon Kenlaw, I'm sorry because you also came out and
said that he did hit him first, And I said, man,
that man ain't hit that man first. Oh y, yes,
saying oh yo, what likelihood of a wide receiver going
around sluck?
Speaker 5 (33:16):
And he did it.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
It don't matter how hard it was. It was the
mere fact that you did something that you didn't have
no business doing. And then he knocked fine from you
and you're talking about oh you know it. No, no, Duran,
I'm sorry, And they should give you your money back. Yeah,
but I guarantee you I bet he won't hit another
d lineman.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
In the face. What you want to bet o, Joe?
I don't know. I don't know, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
One thing about his receivers were the we're the most
dominant position on the field, you know, whether.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
We got the ball in the hands or not.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Here you go.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
I don't I don't know. If I don't know, if anybody.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Saying that.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
A lesson with a consequence of actually, with our consequences,
there is no lesson learning. Wait a minute, you know
what I'm saying, Joe without consequences, there is no lesson learned.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Yeah, now they they He'm not fire from it. Yeah,
the NFL is gonna come down with something on Saint Brown.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
No, no, they not many Listen, listen the NFL. The
NFL is already handicapped that. The NFL has already handicapped
the game a lot. They've already taken some of the words,
some worries, some of the character, you know, some of
the character away from the game and and what made it,
what made it fun, what made it exciting. Now, before
I keep going, I need you to give me that
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line one more time.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Actions without consequences, there is no lesson learned.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
That's good with Joe. I'm gonna use that one.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Ron Payne, you did right. You should have hit him
so hard on the top his head. He peeped out
his ribs and thought he.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Was in jail. He right, An, I ain't getting you
no more. I'm done for a minute.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Hey, hey, bring that back one more time, Like a
DJ I.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Said, d Ryan Payne should have hit him so hard
on the top of his head. He peep out of
his ribs and thank he in jail.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
But you got it though. Yeah, yeah, I might not
stop that act, but I bet I break your the habit.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Okay, he doesn't drop two gems early, but the show
just started.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Hold on, okay, Ojoe, he got abundan that he got
abundant him into when he when he when did you
see how fart swung back? Yes, sir, he swung back
from Prince George. Yeah, he got up under that. That's
what Joe, Joe. There wasn't there was the more cartoon slaps.
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You want to save the cartoon? Yeah, and he was
pissed off.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
He couldn't. He couldn't help it.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Absolutely, absolutely so, I don't have any problem after seeing
the video, after having him explain what happened, and he.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Said, O g I ain't just look, I ain't just
swing on. Old boy. He did what he did.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Send me the video. I tapped on it, looking at him.
They little hand fighting and then he tried to get
a quick win.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
He yet, hey, little chicken man, I know what he
talking about. I used to I used to do it.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Too, and as aid, the press conference from Michael Pennick Jr.
(36:57):
Is gone viral. O Joe, Let's take a listen to
what he had to say.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Mentally, I like my fiance.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
She's always there for me, so I know whenever I
get home, it doesn't matter how I played, She's always
gonna be there for me. She's gonna have a smiler
face and give me a hug and make me feel
feel good no matter what. But as far as you know,
as far as like physically the on the field stuff,
it's not nobody that I'll talk to, like as far
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as another quarterback or anything like that. You know, I
do have people reach out to me. I do have
quarterback coaches go back at home that that reach out
to me as well. You know, tell me, hey, like
you need to clean this up, clean that up, you know,
and everything would be good. So those guys help me
as far as that too, so I can shout out them.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
You know, you know what, I would love to hear
the question that was asked.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
I would love to hear the question that was asked
for better context, because I'm sure he has quarterback coaches
on the sideline. He had he had young he has
quarterback coaches on the sideline, and I'm sure they're talking
about the totality of after a game on what it
looked like. I think that that has to be the
contant of the question, because bringing up your fiance and
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no matter how I played, when I come.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
On, you know she's there for me.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
No, am I am? I wrong? Am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (38:19):
If I'm wrong?
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Let me know what what do you say? What are
you saying about his fiance? Oh?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
How how she said?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
No matter how I played, that she's always there for
me when I come, when I come home, always smiling.
But if anything with the first thing your fiance is
voted to say, oh no, oh no, honey, you ain't
feeling embarrassed me like that.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
It's supposed to be no ke you laughing. It's supposed
to be tough love it got if you play bad,
she's supposed to be the first one.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Baby.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Come on, come come on, come on, r m P.
Come on, don't do that now. You know you can
play better than that.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
You know you have your unk. No, don't, don't.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Don't have with them.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Why they know how to break down that understand the game.
It can break it down for you. Oh my goodness
that now you're coming home with something like that, not
that old Oh baby, you played bad, it's okay. No,
honey is not okay.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
You can't embarrass the family like that. You can't do that.
You can't embarrass the Pennock's last name like that.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Now I'm just throwing out hypotheticals, you know, not you
coming home and the wife no matter how you play.
Oh it's okay, No, it's you know, tough love is
okay sometimes and the best person to hear tough love
from is the one closest to you.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yes, I'm fuck. So they ask him what coaches that
he does he rely on lean on?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Okay, okay, okay, yeah, like who did?
Speaker 5 (39:40):
Like okay, Oh, Joe, you going through a tough time,
is there's somebody that you lean on? Okay? Boom? I
like that.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
I like that question because the first thing the coaches
that would lean on most of the time, it wouldn't
be my coach in Cincinnati if things aren't going right,
and it's someone I need to lean on now in game,
Hugh Jackson, in game, you know, Alex, would you know
some of those coaches that there?
Speaker 3 (40:02):
But if something is going right and I need. I
need to go back to the foundation on how it
was built.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Charles Collins nineteen ninety seven, when it all started, that
Santa Monica College running the sand Dude, the Manhattan sand
Duws back in the day.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Like, that's what That's what I'm leaning on. Um, that's
what I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
That's why when Michael Pennick said he mentioned coaches that,
okay with that question, that's what I'm leaning on. I'm
going back where it all started. Hey, coach man, what
you see. I don't know what's going on. You know,
I'm doing it. I'm rushing, I'm just whatever it may be.
Because he can see he can see it from a
different point of view than I can. He can see
it from a different point of view than my coaches do.
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Come a coaches, they see exit and those coach he
can see something they don't see even though they are
my receiver coaches.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
And guess what coach c looking out for you, that
receiver coach, you got five other guys, six other guys
that he got a coach.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, yeah, And the conversation would be they view they
viewing me in a different lens. And what he's saying
that is correct. So I think people were like, no,
that's not what NFL coaches are there. You're not gonna
be able to rely on your coaches. So I know
you're always surprised that he said that.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Well he can't go nope, no rah rah raheem got
fifty guys, sixty guys. He got to worry about that quarterback,
got that quarterback, coach, you got every Ain't nobody holding
your hand in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
They're not. So I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
I don't want to, Hey, I don't. I don't want
to come off as callous. I don't want to come
off as not being empathetic. But I'm just telling you
the sports business, this is a grown man's business. You
get paid the Kings, Rams and to play a kid's game.
They're not holding your hand. So I understand what he's
saying that when somebody to lean on, I'm calling my
former coach. I'm gonna call my brother.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
Mm hmm. What do you see? Am I am? I am?
Speaker 1 (41:55):
I missing something. I feel I'm leaving players out there,
but I don't know what I'm doing. Mm hmm, Hey,
send me a copy, let me let me, let me,
let me look at your practice. Let me see what
you Let me see what you look like in the game.
Send me, send me the game, cut up, send me practice,
let me see. Okay, So, uh, this is this is
(42:21):
the cold, harsh world. This has always been like this.
And I think the thing is that this new generation
they think like it's high school and like, come on, son,
and the coach take you out to eat, put his
arm around you.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Oh no, ain't none of that. Ain't none of that,
because listen that right there, that'll get you.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
You lose your job. You you lose your job.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Players get coaches fires if you're not playing up the
par depending on who you are, depending on what round
you went in, you know, depending on how much you're making.
They ain't no coddling, ain't no cold in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Boy, This is this is this is business.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
These are excell and those we going over exit and
those Wedday, thirty, Friday and Sunday.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
We expect you to execute those exits. And o's.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Somebody said, somebody say he was your first round pick.
You don't want him succeed. How many first round picks
you think Atlanta got on their roster? So I guess
they're supposed to take him all out for brunch and breakfast.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Huhm, It don't work like that.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Uh, this is a different generation, oh, Joe, because this
house always been because the hair is the thing. This
is why in the military there's supposed to be no
fragnizer or higher up in subordinates, because there gonna be
certain times that you're gonna have to be like you know,
like what David did, and he put that basstiebe husband
in the front. But that was for a whole different reason,
(43:42):
because it clouds your judgment. See, you gotta be careful
when you call on a certain player because it's gonna
make it much more difficult to get offset player if
and when you need to. That's why coach coach Belichick,
Heisman posed everybody. It was nothing for him to get
off a player. You know, Coach, you tell you that
long time. One of the most difficult thing it is
to do is cut a player. No that you built
(44:03):
up so much you're numb to it, especially if you're
coaching fifteen years old, Joe, and you gotta cut when
it players a year for fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
They numb to it. Now they pretend, they pretend about it.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
The conversations they have for you when they ask you,
when they get that knock on your door, bring your playbook,
coach want to see you.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
Man.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
They got everything they probably said. They probably they probably
said the same thing everybody else. The only thing they
do they do different is they change the first name
when they greet you and let.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
You know, Yes, this is tough. Everything you got to do.
This is the worst part of my job. Nor you.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
You were really easy. But you know what I'm saying,
I'm just being real. You know, this is the tough
part of my job that nobody likes to do. They
sit in their chair like this and hey, come on in.
How you do it's up?
Speaker 5 (44:50):
Yeah? Yeah, you know, you just got caught up in
the the oh Joe, you know back, you just got
caught up in the number.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
It's just one of the number my daddy or that
numbers game.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
There's a possibility that we might now with the situation,
we might bring you back for the practice squad. But
we're gonna give you an opportunity to go out there
and see what's side there. And you know, yeah, I'm
just telling you how it is. I'm just all the
way honist with you. Yeah, And because a lot of
times you know, everybody has those aspirations. You don't go
to the NFL and say, well, if I get cut,
(45:23):
it's okay. No, it hurts because for a lot of
these guys, this the end of something that they've been
doing since they were seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven years old. Yeah,
so the end is never easy. Oh you're a good movie,
you man. You don't you don't want a good movie
to go out be like damn, that's it. Yeah mm hmm, yeah,
(45:53):
it's uh, it is tough. And having gone through that,
that's something that you didn't have to worry about being
a second round pick that I had to worry about
being a seventh round pick. And I remember you. I
remember like yesterday because we were stared at the Clarion Hotel,
uh by Centennial Airport. That's where all the private planes
come in at Centennial, and we're stared at the Clarity
(46:15):
And I'll never ever forget the phone rang, so you know,
oh yae, we got two rooms, one phone me. I
ain't answer it, like they don't know, like they can't
come over there and knock on the.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
Door and say hey, hey, coach uh coach Reed want
to see you, right? And I remember phone ring. The
phone rang about three four times. I'm like, they know
we're in here. Oh ye where we go?
Speaker 3 (46:42):
At you at? You ain't picking up?
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Nah, you got to come. You gotta come fast? Picking
on pold dog. How would you give give me bad
news face to face? My roommate picked it up. After
a while, I see my door open. They got your boy. Man,
I say, damn, man, I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 5 (47:04):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, like man, he but you keep going, that's man
you name. As a matter we still I hadn't talked
to him. I mean I talked to him from time
to time.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
He came to see me playing Denver. He came to
see he came back to see me playing Denver. He
came to see me playing Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (47:24):
He came to the hall. Uh we we we we
We're still cool.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Be uh be mad. He'll tell you he called me.
He's still the only one that really called me double less.
But it was tough because you know, I was talking
about man, what I wanted to do and X, Y
and Z. But you know what, Joe, at that time,
I had the Mercedes. My brother said, Nah, leave a
car home, don't nobody, He don't tell nobody you got it.
(47:50):
Don't tell nobody you going up there. You're trying to
make a team. You ain't got no car, Okay, but
it's it's it's real. Ain't nobody, ain't no baby man,
you mom, I told you I had that five bruce.
I had a hole in my thigh in my quad.
They don't care up about that. They trying to find
(48:11):
the best fifty three damn players that can possibly find
to make this team, and the and and the more
you can do, the better your chances are. Oh, you
not a starterist, You not to start the level starting defense?
Or how many special teams can you play? Put me
on kick return? I can play four to five, four
to six. I can't play on P A T.
Speaker 5 (48:32):
And I can't play pat block a field goal block,
but I can get you four of them. You ever
tackled anybody? Yeah, I play. I tackled.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
I hadn't tackled anybody since high school. Well, interception, but
I played defense in high school. Son, you gotta be
tough to play, you gotta be played. Be tough, bro,
I'm trying to make a squad. Tell me what you
need me to do, Tell me what to tell me
what my child. Tell me what my responsibility is. Once
you tell me my responsibility, oh, I'm gonna carry that out.
Speaker 5 (49:01):
My brother.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
My brother used tell me all the time, he said,
He say, bro, you do everything that you do better
than anybody else, do what they do, and you'll be fine.
Speaker 5 (49:11):
So that was my my singular focus. Oh Joe, I'm
gonna do what I do better than anybody else, do
what they do.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
That's all that's all that come that's all they come
down to.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
And uh uh but I lost oh Joe. I had
lost contact with him for like.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
Man for like eight for like eight years, and then
all of a sudden, Uh, he called the Broncos. They
a uh, they said, some guy named Brian, Brian mcpatter.
He tried to get in.
Speaker 5 (49:42):
Touch with you. I say, oh, I beat back. Yeah.
I called him.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
I said, ma'am, what the hell you being? You know
he went back and finished up school. Uh, and uh,
you know, we we stayed in contact and we lost
contact again.
Speaker 5 (49:56):
He hit me up.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (49:59):
I think he called the Ravens. It's like a Brian mcfather.
I said, yeah, huh, so I hit him up, brought
him out to uh to be more.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
And you know, then when I went to the hall,
I say, they are Jim Skamano, who was Uh, he's
like anybody that you need me to find. So him
he found them and found a couple of guys that
I was trying to get in touch with. It.
Speaker 5 (50:22):
For the most part, the guys that came out, you know,
I still knew where they were. Tried.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
I tried to get to touch the down the Lewis,
but I couldn't find him. But because he was the
guy that made me who I am. But guys, this
is different. This is the NFL. This ain't high school
where the coach gonna take your ass in, or this
is college where they they get that ain't what they
do at this level.
Speaker 5 (50:41):
I'm telling you, I ain't tell you what somebody told them.
I'm telling you what I know.
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