November 11, 2025 • 59 mins
Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Monday Night Football where Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles defeated Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers. Later, they react to the New York Giants firing Brian Daboll and the react to much more new from Week 10 of the 2025 NFL season!
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00:00 - Eagles beat Packers
28:15 - Giants fire Brian Daboll
33:50 - Aaron Rodgers hit
37:28 - Mike McDaniel Dolphins Future
43:00 - Kyler Murray's Future in NFL
49:00 - Gronk to retire a Patriot
52:20 - Deebo & Joe Defensive Player of the Week
54:20 - Hilarious robbery story
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome back to Dbo and Joe. I'm your host, James D.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co host Joe Hayden.
Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't
want to miss nothing. Hey, how you doing today? Joe
doing good? Brother Debo doing good.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Always get to be with you. Watch another game. I
know that's your type of question. Games, defensive special defensive specialists.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
There.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
These did their thing out there, no question about that,
bab sird question about that. Let's get on the head
into it, man. Let's get team Bay start off with
the rock. They actually get a good return, Bro. I
think it's almost to the fourth and then like they
just go Jacob's crazy. First down, he get a run
for five. Second, they pass it twin for six. The
(00:55):
next first I think he's three yards. Then second he
get it's four yards. Third down, he get two and
they end up going for a fourth with the quarterback
sneak and they missed that off side, but they ended
up getting that sneak anyway. Then they right back to Jacobs.
I think he only got like maybe a yard if that.
(01:17):
On the next play, and then that second down, boy Love,
he got sack sacked and.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
He almost lost that rock. Did you see that? Yes, Bro,
that's the Jordan love. He was making some unnecessary plays.
I don't think he played well in the game. We'll
get to it, but that was just an initial one
getting him out of field goal range. Like, you don't
have to take us sack. He had to check down.
He had a bunch of different places he could have
went with that ball, but knocking him out.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Of field goal range is no question. They end up
having to punt. After they punt the rock, Philly gets
the ball. They was doing a lot of positional stuff,
you know what I'm saying, making trying to stay They
make sure they stay ahead of the change or within
the change.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Philly, you know, came out there and immediately they give
it to Sa Kwan.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
He busts them for three hurts, HiT's brown the next
play for six. There in that that third toush push area,
they go for the toush push. I don't know how
they missed this one, dude, that was makeup.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
That was the That was the worst. That was the
worst one of all time. He made contact with the all.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I'm like, how, I don't know that that had to
be a straight up makeup call, dude.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
There's no other way that that happened.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Second down, oh dude, kwan he break him a good
one for fifteen man and then I think it was
the second down pass. Uh well, it would have would
have been a completion, but he was Hurts was a
little off on that one.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
They get a false start on the third that brings
him to third and ten, and then I think that
was where I thought what's the name was gonna get him?
They was doing a lot of that all night now
I think about it. There was rushing past Hurts, dude,
he and up being able to shake off you know,
bus loose and I think he hit was it the
(03:05):
running back Shipley or I think he hit Shipley on
that third and ten for eleven. They're able to, you know,
continue to keep going the next you know, a couple
of plays standing ahead of the chains. I think they
get to the third and five and again Hurts, I
think he hit Smith for what eight right there, and
(03:28):
he just sat down like like white, I know the
middle dude, gotta keep going, Like why you think they
didn't like try and relate to that route like it's
third and five like y'all, y'all sitting right here, like, I.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Don't know, de Bo, that's bad ball. I don't I
don't know. I ain't understand that.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Because later on they did the opposite and they sat
short on long one and dude was able to get it.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I think they weren't trying to take the cheese. But
at the same time, you gotta be looking at the
quarterback he's throwing that there, you gotta be able to
react to it.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Looked like the middle backer was doing that too, where
he just straight off, keep going down the field, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
And then you're only two there.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
They're zoning right there, like somebody got to relate to that, dude,
like that's that's just way too too much openness, Yeah,
for sure. And then I think it was the third
down coming up, Jalen take off and Cooper he made
a great play, dude, I mean, just straight punch right
into that thing.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Bro. It was That's that's a good that's a good
defensive play.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
You know, they getting into the red zone and he
was running it and he got it right before he
went to the ground.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So it's a great defensive play. Hurt.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
You want to hurt. You wanted to protect the ball there,
but you can't. You can't blame him. That's a great play.
He's bass. He's looking to get.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, yeah, I mean he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
He wasn't and you know what, he was like that
close from hitting the ground too though, Like that get
the ball back and the next snap, dude, love goes
and like I don't know if he was trying to
hand it off for what was going on, Like he
fumbles the rock like they get lucky, it bounces right
back to him. Bro, they recovered for lama. What they
(05:10):
lose two three yards on that or that one or something.
The next play they end up getting the ball batted
down and who was it third and like fourteen fifteen
something like that? He scrambles, No, it was third and
third and thirteen. He scrambled for twelve. Dude, like he
was going going for that.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Dude, yeah out, Like who's they backup?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Because I don't know if he got anywhere near to
tell him to look, you could have you lost all
that right there.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
You know what I'm saying. No, for sure, you gotta
protect itself, man. They friends.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
They end up going forward on the fourth down with
the sneak and the rest finally catch it. I don't
know why they can't see this dude. They're gonna have
to make that a reviewable player or something, man like,
you got to be able to review all all sneaks, pushes,
whatever it.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Is, bro de Bo. Doesn't it throw you off though?
That they are so.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Good at even getting a twitch for a false start,
But you can't get people going all the way across
the damn line before the ball is snap and hitting
the defensive line. It's obvious, you know what I'm saying,
Like you can get a little like when the guard
if he just moves back a little bit, they easily
can throw that. If you see this dude falling forward
before the ball is snap, I'm like, Rep, that's too
blatant that you can't be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And if you want to put it in replay, you
obviously see people taking off hitting people like that is
just getting it's getting crazy. Yeah, but they actually they
caught that one. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I think that's something that might I think there was
only too short to vote short of losing that anyway
last year, so that might be something that they'll they'll
actually get rid of I hope.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
They don't get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I hope they just make it like yo, it's a
quick New York review to make sure it ain't nobody
jump off sides.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, I just don't I feel you.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I don't think it's that it's not that bad of
a play, but you got to run it legally, snap
the ball first, and then if you guys can't be
able to get underrest and you're able to get under us,
but don't be able to take all before you know
what I'm saying, Like, that's just that's just no question.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Philly get the ball back the green Bay. They ended
up getting what was it, two negative plays there. But
I think it's more like, yes, players like slipping. Bro
Like the tackle went to pull around, he slept, he slipped,
set right there, get off. The next play got the
little screen he slipped, you know, couldn't get off. And
(07:23):
I think third down they just was just playing the safe,
did a little, they punted the rock to him and
Green Bay get to get the ball back and again
they go, they go Jacob's crazy. I think first down
was a five yard run, second down was eleven, then
the first down three second down they ended up losing
a yard and then third.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Down I think he got he got six or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Was that right, yeah, because they went for the you know,
they tried to make like they was going to go
for it on fourth down, trying to get him to
jump off sides.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Ain't nobody that stupid shit, you know, unless they clean nobody,
you know, see, you gotta hold your water. Just saying
you know what I'm saying, right, that's just that's that
was just bad ball. They they they ended up putting
the ball.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And then the first play when Jalen ends up scrambling
again and he throw that thing or cross. Dude, I
just knew somebody was about it was gonna bup. Just
the way they was playing. I'm like, yo, somebody's gonna
snatch that right here. Ended up getting a and then
again like I said, them DB's was balling.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Second down, balling, bro sitting those.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
In there and and makes a nice breakup dude, urn down,
they get the incompletion again the dB.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
He was.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Right there. I think if he threw that undercut that
on the money. If it wasn't, why I think.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
He gone no, no, no, for sure, that's why he
threw that ball that's why the DV was sitting there
like this. He went to break on it, and the
those passes, if it was a completed pass, it'll make
depleted to the dB. So it's either you're gonna have
throw that ball out of bounds brother and be incompletion
liter fight another down, or he's gonna take us.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I think it was just an off throw, Like, dude
hadn't even really broke broke yet for him to try
and to just in the middle of the throw.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
You just have a bad pass that sometimes that works, favorite.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, yeah, Philly.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
They gone ahead and the punter he shanks the ball,
ends up giving it to him at the forty two.
Now Green Bay got a got a short field. You're
thinking they might, you know, they might be able to
do something. But again, dude, like the DBS. Dude, they
making some nice breakups, dude, like on both sides of
the ball. They get to a I think it was
(09:42):
a third and eight and he gets the ball batted down.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
They end up punting. Philly get the rock again.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
First down, They stand ahead, say kwan, he gets another
gets another seven. They end up getting off setting on
the next play where they had I think the they
had a nice game on that one third and two.
I think it was like a pass interference. They gave
them another first and then they go false start and
(10:11):
a holding and back to back end up going to
a first and twenty five.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Brou They end up punting the ball.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
They get the they get the ball down at the eight,
but they got a holding call they make them rekick it,
so Philly got to rekick it and now they end
up returning it and getting the ball at like I
think it was like the thirty or thirty five or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Dude, like that rekick. You ever been on special teams
when they got do the rekick? Dude? Yes, brother, yeah, exhausty.
They don't know. You don't know how much effort you
put into that one.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Play man, that gunner. You gotta run down that thing
full speed and.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You're getting jam.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Question, you're getting double team, you get you getting beat,
getting beat all the way down there, dude, Man the
first down, Green Bay, get the ball connect for eight.
I think Jacob ends up pulling up the first downs
on the second down with a five yard run and
Jacob's again bruh another five yards second down. Love sprambled
(11:15):
on that thing, man, I just knew he was. I'm like,
I ain't. I couldn't see how he got out of
that one.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, no, his capability. Love got good. You Love got
good athleticism.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, dude, love his jacobs, I think for another nine
and then leading up to that next first down, Love
got sacked, Dude, Like this is this the one?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Ain't the one where he's from?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
About this this this, this had a lot of he
fumbled on the next one though, this had a lot
of like just coverage pressures and sacks, Dude, Like, yeah,
for sure, nowhere to go with the ball. And like
you said, on that next second down, that's where you know,
he gets sacked and he tries to like get the
ball out and throw it. You know, I was just
(12:00):
doing too much at that time, you know. Yeah, I
think they were in field gold range at that point
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Was that yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, bro, it was on
the twenty seven yard line.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Brother, Yeah, Philly. So that that's.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
What the thing with with Love when I was watching
the game too, like you just can't. They was in
the first drive when they was in field goal range,
and he put them out of field goal range by
taking the sack and then before halftime somehow we need
to get points, and you just doing too much, losing
the rock, trying to do just go down with it
or throw it out of bounds, getting because nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
He already had his hand wrapped up. He trying to
switch it to the other hand, lose it like it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, yeah, just doing too much though, brother, I'm just
saying right there, we could have had six points and
ended up losing by three.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
But those are just six easy buckets three.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It could have been over, you know what I'm saying,
It could have been overtime. Like worst case, worst case
is is what happened. They turned the ball, worst case.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
What did you do? Philly get the you know, Philly
get the ball back.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
And again, dude, they running past, they running past hurts Man.
He scrambles, he gets out of the pocket for you know,
I think it was like maybe three four yards something
like that. And like, at what point do you like
say to your past rushes, Hey, don't rush past this, dude. Man,
this is not Joe Flacker. You can't rush past him
and hope to circle back around. He's going to take off.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, you're creating passes, you're creating escape lanes for me.
He's gonna use him.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, and you know it's coming towards the end of
the half. They just threw a fourth down where they're
just trying to burn the clock out. They burn the
clock out through it our bounds. It's a great half though.
Man zero zero, man zero zero. That's that's that's my
kind of game, baby.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
And it was defense was making plays. Defense is making plays.
They was forcing turnovers when they got into the red zone,
you know what I'm saying, sacking them when they were
in a field goal range. So defenses were stepping up. I knew,
I knew this.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
This is what fut all ship looked like.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I started realizing now, Debo, the more I become a
fan that I become kind of not I want the defense,
Like I don't like false passing, passing, apperances, like I
see offense gets away with everything. But you do kind
of want to see like that are they doing bad
or is it doing good? So on some of the
plays you don't know what it is. I'm like, I
like it, but like hold on, the defense is strapping.
(14:20):
You're like this, man, that's a bad passing. It's a
good ass play. By the dB, you know what I'm saying.
So it's a little bit of both, like both getting
paid at the same time. So it's like it's that bad,
but it's like, no, these dudes are also good, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Philly, come out. They get the ball in the third
quarter again staying ahead. First play, say Kwani, he runs
it for seven. They end up getting to that next
I believe, first down and he hits he hits god
her for like twenty two.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Again.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
This is a situation where like yo, like ain't nothing
in front of him this time though, so like keep
going back.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
They end up keep thinking. They end up settling and
you know, he gets it, he gets it behind him,
you know.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Next play, I think Hurts missed the tight end like
he had that Like that would have been that would
have been money right there if he was short that
they give it to Say Kwani, he hit another six,
It put some you know, in that third down, I
think they hit got it again for eight. The first down,
I think he scrambled again again. I think he scrambled
(15:26):
for what another five six or something like. Next I
think Walker, what was it he shot through that thing
by solid tackle for agive. Oh yeah, tackle, that was
a good play right there. Like I like seeing stuff
like that. They end up getting a delayed game. On
(15:46):
third down, they go to third and twelve again, I'm thinking,
you know, they playing the safe because they know they
within the field goal range, so they go ahead, play.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
The safe, They get a they get a field goal.
First score just first quarter together three zero.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Nine minutes or over nine minutes and left in the
third quarter.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Bro three zero. Man, I'm loving this, man, Like this
is what this is what this is what I like
to see.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I don't even know what people understand, like like when
you when you when you defensive minded, like I want
to see see everybody play good on both sides, Like
when I'm watching somebody that I don't root for, I
want to see everybody play good on both sides.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
That way, I see a good, good game. You know.
That's kind of like when you see Pittsburgh Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I understand how you feel on that, but I only
feel like that because I have no loyalty take you
have no loyalty to say, so I don't know how
you can feel like that, and you say you got
loyalty to both.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
But anyway, oh see it's the complete opposite of what
you're saying. You know, when you don't have no loyalty
to either team, it's the complete opposite.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I have all my love teams. When you don't have here,
and when you don't have none, you can just look
at it from outside.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
When I got it from so much, then I'm looking
at it from the We got the same perspective, but
just completely.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I got you, I got you, Green Bay, get out there.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I love hit watching for twenty Like you know, they
moved the ball a little bit, they staying ahead of
the Chaine little you know, and then uh hunt. I
think he made a nice play, dude for that loss.
Yes before it was a four yard loss.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
That was That was nice. That was nice.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Second down love and is up scrambling for about five
and third down, dude. That was a great pass, dude,
great pass. But he couldn't hold onto it. Dobbs could
not hold onto that thing, buddy. Yeah, he got to
snatched all day. Bro ended up going for it on fourth.
(17:44):
And here's a crazy thing. It would have been a
first down if if who wasn't uh was it Milton
Melton hadn't dropped the ball. That's the first down, for sure,
he's there. Clear, it's off of him. I thought at
first the DV made a play. He didn't like it
just bumped off of him.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah, he was in a good spot though. Oh yeah,
he would have made the tackle for sure. But dude
dropped the rock.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So they end up Yeah, he up turning it over
on downs, Pilly get the ball back. I'm thinking it
might be a little bit of trouble, but dude, Green Bay.
They stand up threeing out I meaning out quick. I mean,
of course with that you know that uh what was it?
Six yards?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Negative? Six yards? Like nobody block? That's going to say nobody?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
He went free? He drops a kwiing Like how do
you not block him? Like he's right there, he's one
of the one up front. Like how you don't block
the d lineman, Bro? That don't even make no sense.
They end up having to punt the rock. Green Bay
get it back. They started feeding Jacobs again.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
He get it.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
He get eleven on the first down. I think the
next first down they hit Wix for twenty you know
later I think he love ends up hitting Watching for
twenty two.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
But they got that illegal for mation. That killed it.
Bro killed the whole drive, the whole drive again.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
The dv's make a nice play that repeated that second down.
You know that third down coverage is great again. He
ended up having to scramble and throw it away. They
punted the rock Philly, get it back like it starts
to have a little bit of breakdown, a little bit break.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Yes, this you can You can only fight for so long.
You can only fight for so long. Sai Kwan is
still also getting paid twenty million dollars a year as
the best running back in the league. So how long
your question?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
That third that third and seven, they gave him that
little short one.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Dude, Dude, I knew dude wasn't gonna get him. I'm like,
he either go running round or he goes run over.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Bro, he's gonna make this man's going to something something
going out. He's not about to tackle this. It's so
much open space. I couldn't even see once when he
first caught the ball.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Like, no, put him in, No, put him in the
Spence cycle all the way spencycle. Dude.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
If I'm I ain't gonnaven lie to you, bro, if
I'm not, if that's me right there and I'm coming
up to tackle him.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I'm not even breaking down.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I'm gonna take my shot, going to shoot, got to
shoot your line and the door and hope that he
don't think I'm gonna do it and do a stutter.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
All that, all that, all that little blowing down, trying
to chop your feet is gonna get you broke down.
Exactly what he got, exactly what he got. Man.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Then the next play, Hurt's gone ahead and lay that
thing out the smith man.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
That was a nice play man, that was That's how
you make a play on the ball.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Six yard touchdowns ten to Nathan. I'm thinking Green Band
really did too much work on it, you know what
I'm saying. I'm thinking it might be over with and
then Free Bay come out there.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Br they go eleven plays, seventy seven yard score touchdown
bro of course with the help.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Big Pa twenty plus pi and of course Jacob he
finished it off with the six yard touchdown.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Bruh.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, it's seventy ten with just under six minutes in
the fourth. We got a game game, now, dude, we
got a game game. Filly, get up out there. I
think they was able to do about what was it,
nine or ten plays? But the big one was that third.
I thought it was overhere. They got that third down completion,
third and twelve, Yeah, third.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
And twelve to Deavonte Smith. Oh, I was like, that's
the that's good money, bruh.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I'm like, yeah, I don't. I don't know if that's
I don't know if they're gonna be able to slow
this down.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Man. They go and start doing a little little running
here and there.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I think they forced green Bay at that point to
maybe called one time out, because yeah, on the thirty
and eight they go and they passed the ball.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It stops the clock.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
If they had rented, they would have used up another
They had to at least use up another time out
some time off the clock, and they end up I think,
giving green Bay the ball back with like almost two
twenty left on the clock or something like that.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Has act green Bay. They gone ahead, get to it.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I think it was like a third and ten ta
Love next again to this boy watching for twenty five
and it's just now the two minute warning. Bro, Like,
I'm like, yo, this couldn't you know this could be
interesting dude? No, for sure, Bro, I hate that it
was Jacob's bro work. They had I hate.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
It had to be him, man, he was doing so well,
yes he was, and they try to get try to
get him that name that rock he got that first time.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I think he had like four five yards and then
he fumbled that thing.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Rh called Philly recovered his son.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I'm like, okay, they still you know, they still got
to They got a few timeouts, they might be able to,
you know, stop them Green Bay. Then I think they
ended up stopping them, stopping sat Quan on the sat
Quan on the first two runs, and they had time
out so they was able to call their timeouts. And
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then I don't know why they went for it on.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
The fourth time off fourth and six. They threw the
fade ball two. I didn't understand that at all. Your
defense has been bawling. Give them to hunt joint down there,
and then they're only going to have like twenty something.
You know what I thought that, you know what I
thought they were about to do. I thought they were
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about to do a quick kick.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Where you snapped it to that to the quarterback and
then they don't have the back time back there. They're
not thinking about that. He punted and then y'all just
go and cover. That's what I about to do.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And then I'm like, dude, they actually threw the rock
Like that's crazy, bro.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, bro, grenybody get the ball back down. On that
first down, he throws that thing up. If it wasn't
for that coveras we be talking, we be talking about
a different score right now.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I believe m hm.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Second down, they ended up getting one for eighteen, and
then they they go for the field goal. Dude went
on head and got him a quick practice kick. I
see him saying, snap it, snap it. After they called
the time out.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It was like trying to get that. Actually, my leg
ain't gonna get there, baby. All right, the.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Dophense go back out there. See if we can't pick
up a quick you know, five five, six yard out
or something. They not complete that. They're like, hell, ain't
no time left. They put him back out there. He
gotta do it, and you know he shanked the ball.
Philly gone ahead and win ten to seven.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Bro. I listen, that's my type of game, man, I likesta.
I don't think it getting no better than that, baby.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I feel like it was really it was good. It
was really good defense, like you said, on both sides
of the ball. I feel like both quarterbacks. Uh, definitely underperformed.
But sometimes, like you said, it's either the defense is
doing it to you. You're applying pressure or you're getting
pressure applied to you. So I think them playing sticky
man the man, you know what I'm saying. That made
situations tough. But those the fumbles, you know what I'm
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saying in the red zones, the sacks that Jordan Love took,
I don't think that was good for you know what
I'm saying, Like, those are just mistakes that you took
points off the ball for your team. But it was
a I can't take nothing for defense or green Bay
because it came.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Down to Philly's defense played better then green Bay's defense did,
and then.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Green Bay's offense didn't make those chump plays didn't get
those those situation rational things together, where Philly they got
chunk plays. Dude, Like they only had what was it,
three chunk plays all together. That was like, that's all
it took, and they did it at times that helped them.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Put point need on the board.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
In green Bay, they weren't able to the defense. I like, dude,
I like seeing that defense outplay the other defense. The
offense made the plays when they needed to. The other
defense made the plays when they needed to. The combination
of the two they came through with the w. This
is what good on good football looks like.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
People.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
It shouldn't be forty five to forty three and y'all
think it's a great gas.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
No, it's not trash. Yes, like that was trash lo
for sure. There wasn't a lot of mistackles, you know
what I'm saying. There's people are on the alignments and
Sigmon's techniques. There's red zones that're making plays when they
need to. Like, don't think the Eagles are good offensive team.
The Green Bays a good offensive team. Jacobs is a
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great running back, you know what I'm saying. Love, He's
been able to cut people up when these dudes are
in position, making plays these third downs where tight coverages.
You know what I'm saying, he's throwing out of bound
because hopefully if not, it would have been a pick six.
So it's really good seeing defenses like that being able
to step up, perform, and on the offensive side of
the ball, you know that there's plays to be made
and there's things that were left on the field. But
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when you're a Philly, You're still able to walk out
of that stadium with a dove knowing your defense ball
out in offense. There's so much left on the bone
for us to be able to score points, be able
to make these.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Players, and both both head coaches like, Yo, it's gonna
be a dog fight, Like we know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
We're not gonna sit here and.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Break ourselves into, you know, doing ridiculous plays that we
know aren't aren't going to succeed. We're gonna have to
earn get it down there and pick our spots to
where we're going to try and get a chunk play
here and there.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
You know, coaches were smart.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Speaking of their head coaches, brou they announced that they
fired your boy the ball over there and what was it,
New York? Yeah, buddy over And I think they said
the GM is staying.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Is that right? Yeah? Bruh, How does that work? I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You agree with you disagree, you think it's too late,
too soon? You know what this is me? This is
what I This is just my personal thing.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Please tell me.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
If I didn't fire him at the end of twenty four,
I would have definitely fired him, like at least three
four weeks ago. Like, okay, you at the end of
twenty four they lost ten straight bright, that was a
franchise record, bro, Like they lost ten straight Okay. On
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top of that, maybe he was able to talk him
into saying like, hey, it's not me. He sat Jones
down and then he got rid of Jones. Okay again,
the old Daniel Jones went over there and showed that hey,
this ain't me over the it's not my fault. So
now you're looking back and you're like, oh, maybe it
(29:13):
wasn't him. Recent history, you know, it shows that the
ball you can't even hold the league to get to win.
That's what I'm saying, Like, I don't understand the don't
get rid of the GM part unless you're saying the
GM had no power to make any kind of decisions
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and you gave all the power to the head coach
to make the decisions on who you're getting, what you're doing,
everything else. That's the only way I can see that
you still hold on to the GM.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Like this whole situation, I'm more of a how do
you feel about I'm more of a coach. I like
when the coach and the GM are more married to
each other because you gotta work together. You're going to
be giving the coach the players, and the coach you
gotta have a relationship.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I like that more.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I think that more works out more smooth than GM.
You just get a coach to players and now he
got to deal with whatever you got them, whatever you
give them.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Do you understand what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
You know?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I think that's how it should work. But I think
most places, one person has more power than the other
because when it comes down to it and I say yes,
you say no, who's the decide.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Buck stop somewhere? Which way do it go? Do it
go to do it? Do it go to head coach way?
Or do it do it go to GM's way.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
So maybe this is a situation where it just kept
going ahead coach with Maybe you know, they're saying that
the interim head coach is going to be the OC
you know, and he had been there since well twenty
twenty two or something like that. He came in with
day Ball. So maybe that was a situation where dude
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came out of Kansas City. He was in KC for
like five years something like that. Over there with with
with Pat mahoons in them and maybe he wanted to
keep Daniel.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I just like playing that getting stuff. Just don't like
getting suff started. You know, maybe he wanted to keep dead.
He saw what it could be. But the ball was like, no,
I gotta get rid of him. I got to save
my own ass because like I don't want to get fired.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
No, no, no, for sure, I think they get I mean, Davo,
he went twenty forty one loss, was new come on
twenty forty on one, and then this year blew three
ten point leads. So I mean, that's just not good.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
And then I think with Jackson Dark, seeing what you
have there with the getting rid of the head coaches
of the GM, I don't know how they really are
doing that because I'm not rocking with the GM. I
don't think as much this.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Who aren't the GM the one that got rid of
Sakwon Barkley and Danie Jones? Was he the same I'm thinking? So,
so I'm looking at it like at the end of
the day, all y'all gotta go, we need to take
care of Dark.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Because we actually do have a pretty good quarterback. We
need to get him protected with the offensive line. I
think Dark needs to kind of take care of himself,
protect himself. He already got damned in full concussions already
rookie season. So line being able to make sure you
protect this dude and not making him get hit upside
the head all the time.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
He got to be able to slide get the ball
out of his hands. Because I like Dark, I think
to play.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
He got to protect himself and they gotta not call
as many running plays, you know what I'm saying. So
you got to be able to get the ball out
of his hands. So I'm more with if you getting
rid of the day Bo, you need to get rid
of that whole GM that made bad decisions, getting rid
of Sa Kuan and Daniel Jones. It's just a whole
little bit of messed up the whole thing over there.
Start fresh, knowing you got a good quarterback. Get somebody
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that that's going to help out Dark, that believes in him,
a GM that loves that, that believes in Dark. I
think when when you bring people in, you have a quarterback,
you got a nice running Backscatta, but you.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Have some young pieces. The receiver too. My man was
with LSU.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
He's been hurt whole year. So you don't have your
number one, Like you're out there playing with all your
pieces still on out there. So it's not like you
don't have talent. They have talent. You got a quarterback
that I really like. You need to protect them and
bring in the GM and the coach that also believe in.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. You Like I said, I'm getting
rid of the GM. Speaking of getting rid of I
guess the Stellers cut the safety thorn Hill. Yeah, like,
I don't know if that's a big move. I don't
really think much like they made like they was about
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to make a move move. I don't that's the move move.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
I mean, we got in the dude, Kyle Duggar, the
young safety twenty nine that as soon as he came in,
he's been playing a lot better.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
He hasn't been missing the signmons.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I haven't seen too much like he's making tackle communication.
Really hasn't been too many bus so, I mean, if
you see him stepping there and I haven't seen any downfall.
And they said that he got a thorn Hill ended
up getting demoted, so he's been playing kind of more.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
You ain't getting no regular special teams. You ain't getting
no regular snaps, you know, no no spot, especially as
a you know, as a safety like you're supposed to
be in there on the nickel package. Is something that
that or sure evant, especially when all you're doing is
special teams.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yeah, So I mean I'm glad. I mean I'm not
glad that they got rid of them. But I just
seen Kyle Douggat that's in there, and he hasn't been
playing bad at all. He's just been in position. Not
too many flashes. But if your name isn't being called
sometimes a dB, that's a good thing, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Dude, did you look at the photo of Aaron did? I?
I think I sent to you Listen, broh, that looks uncomfortable.
Can we even put that picture? Can we put that
picture up? Please? It's right strange, so small? Hey, But
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that that's that's one of them.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
That's one of them hits that you see a boxer
get where the stored his whole face?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yes, yes, we don't like jump catch up a slow motion.
We don't freeze frame my dog. We put him in
that's that that's a very vulnerable position. And that's but question,
no question. So was that a sack or was it
a I think it might have been a I think
it was a sack.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
I started talking, you know, I like, I like, you know,
I like starting stuff. Man, isn't that helmet to helmet?
That is for show? Do you think you see his helmet?
You go get him envelope of FedEx.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Only reason he may not was because he was uh,
because he was running, because he was running the ball.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
But he's still he still might get him. I don't
want it to happen because I don't want to happen here. Then, dude,
it's bad. He didn't lower his head, he didn't do nothing.
He just ran over there and tackled the man. He
didn't even really put any knee bend into it. Not
find him on this man, we defense y'all in trouble.
(36:23):
I'm a text bud to see if he got fine.
Check it out. See if he got fine. Bro, see
if he got fine.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
And I hope if we get fine it's not because
well because it's on our because it's on the show,
and we like dry snitching on them.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Man, listen, I ain't listening to us.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
They don't paying no attention, especially if it's me whatever
I say, they gonna do the opposite. You know what
I'm saying, fine headline even Roger, he ain't gonna do
what I say.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
You know what I'm saying. NFL don't care man. Man. Yeah,
they hopefully they don't find man.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
They got an NFL exact saying that tour his benching
and like McDaniel's fire and should have been done already.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Dude, what do you think, brou.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Look, we've been talking about McDaniel depot since the way earlier, way, way,
way a long time agoing earlier in the season, thinking
with the way that like leader of men answers to questions,
just being able to like I just don't know sometime
what he was saying in the meetings, I mean not
in the meetings.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
And that's something on the sooner ross that he don't
want him to get let out.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I'm just, you know, I just I push stuff out there.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
And you you you always you always going from the
devil on this side of your something. You know, it's both,
you know, I would I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I wouldn't be mad at it because at the end
of the day too, I just don't like with with
with Tuur. I mean some games he could be amazing,
some games he won't.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
I just don't really like to is like leadership, the
way that he was kind of going about the way
that he was doing things, so I could say he
rubs other just professional people the wrong way, you know
what I'm saying. So I could see how his play
and then the way that he leaves a little bit
could rub people the wrong way. But the investment they
have in him is probably why they trying to keep
him out there and not put him on the bench
for coach.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
The way that he's been able to handle.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Some of these situations, the way that the team has
been playing like, I could easily see why they could
get rid of.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Him and to it.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
So them not doing it, they're doing a good job
of sometimes just stepping up when it gets real bad.
They perform very well because they know that, you know
what I'm saying, it could be any game they do really,
really bad, they can easily get fired. The name is
always on the hot seat. So I think they're doing
a good job of just trying to fight for their jobs.
They know it's on the line, they know everybody's talking
about them. But then at the same time, I wouldn't
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be surprised if it already happened.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Don't know, bro, I think, well, like this, they say,
it's heard that Stephen Ross said he was basically giving
until at least end of the year, if not all
of next year to see, you know, to see where
it's at. You know what I'm saying, you know, it's
(39:10):
I think the biggest thing for me is like, yo,
I got to get rid of you. You you losing
football games, period, That's what.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
That's what. That's the first thing.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
And then secondly, as you said, everything around you, with
the players, how they're getting along with each other, what
what what my starting quarterback is doing, how he's representing it, what.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
He's saying, you know, I'm not down with it.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
And on top of that, like they don't get rid
of nobody, and then they end up firing the two
player personnel, guys that have been with the team since
what was it, ninety nine ninety four?
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Like what did they do? Right?
Speaker 2 (39:53):
It's like you go fire somebody, You go fire some
dudes that that that that been there for over you know,
twenty five year, twenty plus years, Like what what did
they do to get like did they have some.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Fault in this? Are you trying to figure out, like,
like what powers do they have that would.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Make it to where they're the ones that you get
rid of and you do nothing about the head coach
who can't put together a sentence man, and your quarterback
that's just dry snitching on everybody. Don't know you're not
You got a players only meeting week one and nobody
is going and showing up to it like you have
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no camaraderie, like nothing, and you're giving the yeah, we
go try this and you do nothing. You ain't try nothing.
All you did was try to make like you was
go try something. You ain't try nothing. Like I'm trying
to tell you, man, he got he got something. He
gotta have something on Ross Man. I don't know, man,
I'm just putting it out there. Man, I'm just saying
a quarterback go stay around after that kind of performance
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and then the responses and things that he give to
why things happen or didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
It's unbelievable. Bro. No, I'm with you, you bo.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
But you know how either the owners probably are right
now knowing end of the day they got to it
there for fifty five million dollars a year. They paid
him that dough, so he kind of is not going nowhere.
So they kind of living in the bed that they made.
And then with the coach, I could see them getting fired.
But then at the same time, when they come and
beat the Bills by time something, you know, it's not
(41:30):
a bad look. Like all right, you know what I'm saying,
You could okay, bet player, Like we said too, the
players are professionals. So even if you don't like your coach,
you're gonna go out there and ball because iron the
scot don't lie.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
I'm trying to get I'm trying to get.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
A contract, letting everybody know I'm worth whatever I'm worth,
no matter if I'm playing for them or I'm playing
for the Bills.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I'm playing for whoever. I can get picked up if
I leave this spot, you know.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
What I'm saying. So players gonna play, They're gonna perform.
But it's kind of like you could get rid of
the coach and then he's not answering questions and then
you go out there and beat the Bills.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
So I'm like, damn. So then you think about the Bills,
they probably played down to it. Yeah, no, no, we
talked about that.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
You you were and there was in Miami, right you
in Miami? Ye, go ahead, getting into some good weather.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Man.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
They thinking about all this good weather. They just came
out of out of Buffalo. It's cold and a Mickey
Ficky up in there.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
A chain went fed on him and too it was
doing some deep So yeah, like I don't Yeah, I
don't know. And matter of fact, let's stick with the quarterbacks.
What about uh Kyler Murray over there? You think he's
still he still can be like a one, you know,
a number one quarterback starter?
Speaker 1 (42:39):
What what do you think? Man? Can he can try baseball?
They tripping out their minds.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
I'd still look like and if I were the Browns,
I would I would love Kler Murray.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
I wouldn't be mad at Cayler Murray.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Even though they say he's sure, I think he can
still he could still move around.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
He could still then change. What do you think they
gonna give Kylein Murray a chance for him?
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (43:04):
I understand, But when you asked me a question, is
he a starting quarterback? So I'm like, I think he
still is a starting quarterback. I don't know if it
is in Arizona, he might get switch destinations. I don't
know if that they're still getting along or at that
that vibe is right, especially even with new situation, I
think could start better for him because remember when he
even when he wrote his contract debot and they was like, uh, yeah,
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you have to study your iPad for X amount of hours.
I'm like, hold the hold Well that was because that
was because he was not a guy that was known
for doing the things that needed to be done.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Even inside the facility, They're like.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yo, this dude is the first dude, first dude out,
and the last dude in quarterback.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Okay, no, no, you expect that. Look a look how
about this?
Speaker 3 (43:51):
How about the same thing you said with with with
George too, you maybe you need another place to grow,
maybe a little separate, give you a little time, a
different scene to be people that actually believe in you.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
And now he knows nah, I can't be on that.
You know what I'm saying, like, this is my second chance.
I got another spot.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
I got to show them what I'm about and I
got to prove to everybody else I'm a winner.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
You know what I'm saying I can make it happen.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
So I don't not believe in Colin Ray because the talent,
his arm, strength, his speed is I just don't know
about the progression, but I know he can.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
I think he could be an NFL quarterback. So I
think I think he's an athlete. I'm with you. I
think he can be a one somewhere. But it got
to be and that and that perfect setup.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I think even himhimself, he's a guy that has trouble
throwing over tall life.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
He has an issue. He has said that, and I.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Think that's a personal issue that he has to figure
out how to be able to get over and be
able to adjust and still be successful. Because now they
got a roll Hi out of the pocket. They got
to do all of that, especially in a time where
you know it's it's timing passes boom boom. Get it
to him, you know, and he can't see that the
dude is actually open because somebody is in front of him.
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He's not used to doing it. I mean, it could
be done. All you got to do is, you know,
go look at Doug Flutie did it for ten bush
years or whatever, Drew Bree But I'm talking about that five.
You know what I'm saying, Like Drew Brees was closer
to six.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
I believe, Like.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Dude, you know what I'm saying, And that's only good day.
You know what I'm saying. I think they give me
more than what he really is. So I believe you
can too.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
I believe. But it has to be that right situation.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
It got to be that that set up because the
difficulty of his own personal issue is being able to
get the ball out and seeing where it needs to
go on time because of it's still because of its height.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
You make a good You make a really good point,
and especially when that like even with looking at the
always going back to around Dylan Gabriel not the tallest
guy can't really see over the line, and even with
Colin Murray, like you said, it's not it's not science.
If you got sick five linemen standing in front of you,
you can't see, you know what I'm saying, So sometimes
you might have to slide to the side, angles and
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throws so tall being able to be a taller quarterback
in him saying that too, like man, some of those
I can't see him, Like damn, oh you don't know
if you put that means you may anticipation got to
be up a little bit, like you might have blindly
knowing where the routes are coming.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
But if you can't see, you can't see. I can't
let I can't.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
You can't let that ball go not knowing exactly where
it's going, or if that person is completely open because
I can't see the full view of where I'm throwing
it to.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yeah, he just I don't know how he did it
due maybe they was shorter back then. I don't know.
I think a lot of a lot of interceptions too. Though. Hey, look,
I say, Bud, did you get fined by g He said,
not yet. I hope you don't. Listen, I'm home. Then
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he don't get find it. But he looking at that too,
and they keep putting it up, and he like, yo, man,
just put that down. Listen. That's what I was like, Uh,
the forty two for the Stellers. What's his name? He
did that? Scoop dump and everything on on the on the.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
On instagram NFL now NFL, NFL this NFL that your
instagrams are like, yo, this is fully legal. So Roger,
when you if you find him, you might want to
talk to you. You're just posting all your social media. Hey,
take a screenshot of it right now before they take
it down. I know them dirt balls.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
He go here, hopefully he'll go five pa, pa. That's
what they did to me. They sold the picture and
all that.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
As soon as I started saying, y'all finding me and
you're selling the picture, they took the picture down and
canceled doing all that.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
The mask joint, right, you dirt balls exploded? Yeah you
dirt hey man.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
They said that boy Gronk go sign him a one
day contract so he could retire with the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Bro, Yes, deservingly. So every did you sign your one
day contract to retire with Brown? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:14):
I did, dude, you retired? Yes, like you you you
were brown. Everybody knew you as a Brown. You know
what I'm saying, dah Man.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
I had to go back, though, man and make it
official like a ristal and I respect.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
I think that's that's a good thing. Bro. Go back there.
Patriots was a spot he wanted crazy ships there, that's crazy.
He won. He won crazy. Patriots was where his thing was.
He'll go in the hall as a Patriot.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
But when you asked Gronk, who he rooting for when
the Patriots played Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
Oh his see look look, look, look, it's not even
close to how much Ground only spent many years of
Gronk spend in Tampa depot about four years? How many
years he spent in New England about eight, nine, ten?
Come on, man, that's more than just talking about like
(49:15):
how many years did you spend it, Joe?
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Mean years you spend in Cleveland, Joe. Seven. It's a laja.
That's exactly the perfect truth depot.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
And you're crazy if you don't understand. I did twelve
years in the NFL seven.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
So you're going in as a stay in the Hall
of Fame. Huh what did you say? I couldn't he
How can you just say no?
Speaker 3 (49:47):
Because my bro, my Stellers, my still I went to
I went to two Pro Bowls when I was with
the Browns, only with the one when I was a Stealer.
I had nineteen picks when I was with the Browns.
I only had nine, nine or nine when I was
with Stillers. So my career was better there too, That's
why you know what I'm saying. So you can't but
(50:07):
you can't pick who you want to win, but you're
gonna go in yo.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Your words listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Your words say one thing, But when people's words don't allow,
don't align with their actions, it's called bullshit.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
What part of my words don't align?
Speaker 2 (50:30):
You're going in as a brown? But yet you want
to say you have no loyalty to either one. You
want to see both do? Well, that's I do. Your
actions show me you're a Brown.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
You know what, Joe. I ain't gonna lie to you.
I don't. I don't want to say this, but.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Sometimes I just don't feel the fury when we lose
that I feel from you when the Browns lose. Maybe
it's just because I'm so happy that the Browns lost.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
That's what That's what it is. That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
You're happy when I'm sad, and when you're mad, I'm
also with you, But like you just don't feel.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
That level of Joe, how you not on my level?
But you let me tell you? Let me tell you why?
Because I'm a what you know what I do. I
don't get too up and too down. I'm more even
killed than you. You get real mad and real glad
you guys.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
Stay more even killed debo. You know what I'm saying, Like,
they're gonna be straight. That's why I'm mad, mad.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Straight again, be straight. I want to hear that. You
that's it's just gonna happen. They're gonna be straight. Hellt,
what the hell you mean? They just gonna be straight?
Because man, man, well, who's your defense player to we
do my defensive player of the week? What's my man name?
(52:04):
Number nine?
Speaker 3 (52:05):
For the New York Jets, he had about a four
piece on the brands for his sack.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
McDonald think, I think, I think he went on here
and he was franchise records.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
But see sacks in the game as a Jet, he
was he was hooping and my man is like, he
was on.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
How you get your player to week? Somebody to lose,
but go ahead. I understand I did too.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
So that's the same way they gave the m v
P to the losing team in the NBA Finals one time.
I forgot what his name was. Lost the ship won
the m v P. You bruh, bro, I'm definitely gonna
have to look that up. That's signing raise.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
I'm gonna go with you. I'm gonna go I'm gonna
go with you there on the on the on the
defensive player, I'm with you there on. Now you know
what I'm saying, Man, Man did Man did what he
had to do.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
Man, you know what I'm saying. He did, and he
won the game. Yes, he wanted you play to win.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
You win the game, understand. A matter of fact, Man, Hey,
did you see that thing that was said? Man?
Speaker 1 (53:14):
That the dude from uh Troy, Troy up up there.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Man, he went ahead and robbed the gas station bro
up there in Michigan.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
Dude, see he got a check man, look at God
to be more careful. Hey, bro, listen, I'm gonna tell
you the truth. What do you think. I'm gonna let
you cut your camera off. I'm gonna let you go.
You're gonna let me go. You tell me?
Speaker 2 (53:44):
What do you think happened to you? Why do you
think this whole situation happened? Man pulled it a K
four seven, robbed the stove.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
And took off. What do you think happened Joe? What
led him to do something so you nastily?
Speaker 3 (54:11):
I don't know the AK forty seven robbing at the
I thought he robbed the I thought he robbed the
barber shop.
Speaker 1 (54:19):
I will get y'all. I don't know debos.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Just give me what you think, Joe, Just give me something.
Come on, Joe, you got to have an imagination. You
got to have something. What would you what would you
comment on this, Joe?
Speaker 1 (54:33):
What would you rob a gas station with a before
the AK forty seven? He had a bad day. He
had a really bad day, de bo. He looked, Yeah,
what do you think? So? Because my bands Jone is
pushing back so ridiculous. As you look at that, where's
it right here? Where's it over here?
Speaker 2 (54:54):
As you look at that over here? Okay, because it's
it's opposite mirror, Yeah, you're on the screen. As you
look at that, I'm gonna tell you'all what happened. That
is a fresh cut. Okay, listen, you can tell by
(55:14):
all the lines on it that is a fresh cut. Now,
this is a this is this is this is a
booking picture.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Right.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
He did not go This is much shot. He did
not go and get a fresh cut. Before they came
to arrest him.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
They pushed that man that I've never seen anybody gets.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
I'm trying to tell you what happened, Joe. Listen, so
with that being the case, this is what I think happened. Okay,
my nigga went in there to the barber shop. You
got fresh and clean. You know, after you get your
hair cut, you're feeling a.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
Certain way about yourself. You're feeling real good. The man
goes into the gas station, he got his walk, his talk.
Speaker 2 (56:08):
He goes to do something, maybe get something, do something passier.
That's over, yes, and god, dude, and then the cashier said,
I'm gonna see you around like this. My dude said,
(56:30):
oh no, you won't. He went to the tall and
he got the AK four seven. He ain't even want
to rob the place. He just wanted some respect, Okay.
He thought he had it gone. He then found out
that he didn't. He went in there and just to
add a little insult, he wanted to just scare him.
(56:53):
He said, hey, give me the money too, okay, and
then he ran up out of there.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
Okay, that was on the haircut. That was it. Bro
Did he make but this one, I'm saying, debo, how
the how did he make it out of the barbershop?
Did he not looking at talking about he asked for that?
He thought it was it. They gassed him up in
the barbershop talking about that's clean. Bro. Look at Stephen
(57:19):
Ain Man, he say that's clean too, Stephen Ain't my god.
Let me let me tell you this debo and no
and no world.
Speaker 3 (57:27):
All that light skinned spots on his head, that's all
was covered with hair before they pushed this man back
so far there's no way the front.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Middle part is that.
Speaker 2 (57:38):
I'm trying to tell you he's not leaving the barbershop
if they pushed him back that bad and he got
the ak in the car because everybody in there got
to get laid down.
Speaker 4 (57:48):
Okay, everybody in the barber shop. They need to go
check the barber shop. Everybody every barbershop this man go to.
Don't y'all show up there. Listen, he asked for this joke,
that this was not no act thing do he asked.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
For this man? Okay, I'm trying, Joe. Look, I got
a bald head, Joe. Okay, you know why I got
a bald head, Joe, because my top is glass and
I got a sun roof all.
Speaker 2 (58:14):
The way in the back. Okay, but my saw roof
right here in the back. If I did that, I
deserve everything I got.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
Coming de Bo.
Speaker 2 (58:27):
But that's why he needs to just let it go.
He needed to go trying to tell y'all officers the
law man done took enough of a beating. I'll go ahead.
Let him on out.
Speaker 1 (58:41):
Man. He got he got it, he got his head. Hey, man,
don't be doing all that because you got to make
sure my top ain't falled off the boat. Got Put
your hood back on, man. You want to wear a
hood and all that. Put your hood back on, man. Man,
hold on, man, Man, show my top, man, and he's
had mine. He made me scre about making sure my top.
That's what happened, bro, Man, I feel sorry, Yeah, for sure,
(59:08):
for sure. Hey, let him no, man, that took enough
of a be All right, come on listen here, man.
We really appreciate y'all being here with us. Man, we're
gonna be back here again on Friday, and good.
Speaker 3 (59:21):
Yes the ball Joe, Yes, sir. Hey guys, Man, make
sure y'all like subscribe d BO and Joe. We appreciate
you guys watching.
Speaker 1 (59:32):
Let's get it. I will see you on Friday, and
we are
Welcome back to Dbo and Joe. I'm your host, James D.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co host Joe Hayden.
Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't
want to miss nothing. Hey, how you doing today? Joe
doing good? Brother Debo doing good.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Always get to be with you. Watch another game. I
know that's your type of question. Games, defensive special defensive specialists.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
There.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
These did their thing out there, no question about that,
bab sird question about that. Let's get on the head
into it, man. Let's get team Bay start off with
the rock. They actually get a good return, Bro. I
think it's almost to the fourth and then like they
just go Jacob's crazy. First down, he get a run
for five. Second, they pass it twin for six. The
(00:55):
next first I think he's three yards. Then second he
get it's four yards. Third down, he get two and
they end up going for a fourth with the quarterback
sneak and they missed that off side, but they ended
up getting that sneak anyway. Then they right back to Jacobs.
I think he only got like maybe a yard if that.
(01:17):
On the next play, and then that second down, boy Love,
he got sack sacked and.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
He almost lost that rock. Did you see that? Yes, Bro,
that's the Jordan love. He was making some unnecessary plays.
I don't think he played well in the game. We'll
get to it, but that was just an initial one
getting him out of field goal range. Like, you don't
have to take us sack. He had to check down.
He had a bunch of different places he could have
went with that ball, but knocking him out.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Of field goal range is no question. They end up
having to punt. After they punt the rock, Philly gets
the ball. They was doing a lot of positional stuff,
you know what I'm saying, making trying to stay They
make sure they stay ahead of the change or within
the change.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Philly, you know, came out there and immediately they give
it to Sa Kwan.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
He busts them for three hurts, HiT's brown the next
play for six. There in that that third toush push area,
they go for the toush push. I don't know how
they missed this one, dude, that was makeup.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
That was the That was the worst. That was the
worst one of all time. He made contact with the all.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I'm like, how, I don't know that that had to
be a straight up makeup call, dude.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
There's no other way that that happened.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Second down, oh dude, kwan he break him a good
one for fifteen man and then I think it was
the second down pass. Uh well, it would have would
have been a completion, but he was Hurts was a
little off on that one.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
They get a false start on the third that brings
him to third and ten, and then I think that
was where I thought what's the name was gonna get him?
They was doing a lot of that all night now
I think about it. There was rushing past Hurts, dude,
he and up being able to shake off you know,
bus loose and I think he hit was it the
(03:05):
running back Shipley or I think he hit Shipley on
that third and ten for eleven. They're able to, you know,
continue to keep going the next you know, a couple
of plays standing ahead of the chains. I think they
get to the third and five and again Hurts, I
think he hit Smith for what eight right there, and
(03:28):
he just sat down like like white, I know the
middle dude, gotta keep going, Like why you think they
didn't like try and relate to that route like it's
third and five like y'all, y'all sitting right here, like, I.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Don't know, de Bo, that's bad ball. I don't I
don't know. I ain't understand that.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Because later on they did the opposite and they sat
short on long one and dude was able to get it.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I think they weren't trying to take the cheese. But
at the same time, you gotta be looking at the
quarterback he's throwing that there, you gotta be able to
react to it.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Looked like the middle backer was doing that too, where
he just straight off, keep going down the field, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
And then you're only two there.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
They're zoning right there, like somebody got to relate to that, dude,
like that's that's just way too too much openness, Yeah,
for sure. And then I think it was the third
down coming up, Jalen take off and Cooper he made
a great play, dude, I mean, just straight punch right
into that thing.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Bro. It was That's that's a good that's a good
defensive play.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
You know, they getting into the red zone and he
was running it and he got it right before he
went to the ground.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So it's a great defensive play. Hurt.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
You want to hurt. You wanted to protect the ball there,
but you can't. You can't blame him. That's a great play.
He's bass. He's looking to get.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, yeah, I mean he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
He wasn't and you know what, he was like that
close from hitting the ground too though, Like that get
the ball back and the next snap, dude, love goes
and like I don't know if he was trying to
hand it off for what was going on, Like he
fumbles the rock like they get lucky, it bounces right
back to him. Bro, they recovered for lama. What they
(05:10):
lose two three yards on that or that one or something.
The next play they end up getting the ball batted
down and who was it third and like fourteen fifteen
something like that? He scrambles, No, it was third and
third and thirteen. He scrambled for twelve. Dude, like he
was going going for that.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Dude, yeah out, Like who's they backup?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Because I don't know if he got anywhere near to
tell him to look, you could have you lost all
that right there.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
You know what I'm saying. No, for sure, you gotta
protect itself, man. They friends.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
They end up going forward on the fourth down with
the sneak and the rest finally catch it. I don't
know why they can't see this dude. They're gonna have
to make that a reviewable player or something, man like,
you got to be able to review all all sneaks, pushes,
whatever it.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Is, bro de Bo. Doesn't it throw you off though?
That they are so.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Good at even getting a twitch for a false start,
But you can't get people going all the way across
the damn line before the ball is snap and hitting
the defensive line. It's obvious, you know what I'm saying,
Like you can get a little like when the guard
if he just moves back a little bit, they easily
can throw that. If you see this dude falling forward
before the ball is snap, I'm like, Rep, that's too
blatant that you can't be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And if you want to put it in replay, you
obviously see people taking off hitting people like that is
just getting it's getting crazy. Yeah, but they actually they
caught that one. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I think that's something that might I think there was
only too short to vote short of losing that anyway
last year, so that might be something that they'll they'll
actually get rid of I hope.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
They don't get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I hope they just make it like yo, it's a
quick New York review to make sure it ain't nobody
jump off sides.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, I just don't I feel you.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I don't think it's that it's not that bad of
a play, but you got to run it legally, snap
the ball first, and then if you guys can't be
able to get underrest and you're able to get under us,
but don't be able to take all before you know
what I'm saying, Like, that's just that's just no question.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Philly get the ball back the green Bay. They ended
up getting what was it, two negative plays there. But
I think it's more like, yes, players like slipping. Bro
Like the tackle went to pull around, he slept, he slipped,
set right there, get off. The next play got the
little screen he slipped, you know, couldn't get off. And
(07:23):
I think third down they just was just playing the safe,
did a little, they punted the rock to him and
Green Bay get to get the ball back and again
they go, they go Jacob's crazy. I think first down
was a five yard run, second down was eleven, then
the first down three second down they ended up losing
a yard and then third.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Down I think he got he got six or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Was that right, yeah, because they went for the you know,
they tried to make like they was going to go
for it on fourth down, trying to get him to
jump off sides.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Ain't nobody that stupid shit, you know, unless they clean nobody,
you know, see, you gotta hold your water. Just saying
you know what I'm saying, right, that's just that's that
was just bad ball. They they they ended up putting
the ball.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And then the first play when Jalen ends up scrambling
again and he throw that thing or cross. Dude, I
just knew somebody was about it was gonna bup. Just
the way they was playing. I'm like, yo, somebody's gonna
snatch that right here. Ended up getting a and then
again like I said, them DB's was balling.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Second down, balling, bro sitting those.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
In there and and makes a nice breakup dude, urn down,
they get the incompletion again the dB.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
He was.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Right there. I think if he threw that undercut that
on the money. If it wasn't, why I think.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
He gone no, no, no, for sure, that's why he
threw that ball that's why the DV was sitting there
like this. He went to break on it, and the
those passes, if it was a completed pass, it'll make
depleted to the dB. So it's either you're gonna have
throw that ball out of bounds brother and be incompletion
liter fight another down, or he's gonna take us.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I think it was just an off throw, Like, dude
hadn't even really broke broke yet for him to try
and to just in the middle of the throw.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
You just have a bad pass that sometimes that works, favorite.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, yeah, Philly.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
They gone ahead and the punter he shanks the ball,
ends up giving it to him at the forty two.
Now Green Bay got a got a short field. You're
thinking they might, you know, they might be able to
do something. But again, dude, like the DBS. Dude, they
making some nice breakups, dude, like on both sides of
the ball. They get to a I think it was
(09:42):
a third and eight and he gets the ball batted down.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
They end up punting. Philly get the rock again.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
First down, They stand ahead, say kwan, he gets another
gets another seven. They end up getting off setting on
the next play where they had I think the they
had a nice game on that one third and two.
I think it was like a pass interference. They gave
them another first and then they go false start and
(10:11):
a holding and back to back end up going to
a first and twenty five.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Brou They end up punting the ball.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
They get the they get the ball down at the eight,
but they got a holding call they make them rekick it,
so Philly got to rekick it and now they end
up returning it and getting the ball at like I
think it was like the thirty or thirty five or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Dude, like that rekick. You ever been on special teams
when they got do the rekick? Dude? Yes, brother, yeah, exhausty.
They don't know. You don't know how much effort you
put into that one.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Play man, that gunner. You gotta run down that thing
full speed and.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You're getting jam.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Question, you're getting double team, you get you getting beat,
getting beat all the way down there, dude, Man the
first down, Green Bay, get the ball connect for eight.
I think Jacob ends up pulling up the first downs
on the second down with a five yard run and
Jacob's again bruh another five yards second down. Love sprambled
(11:15):
on that thing, man, I just knew he was. I'm like,
I ain't. I couldn't see how he got out of
that one.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, no, his capability. Love got good. You Love got
good athleticism.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, dude, love his jacobs, I think for another nine
and then leading up to that next first down, Love
got sacked, Dude, Like this is this the one?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Ain't the one where he's from?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
About this this this, this had a lot of he
fumbled on the next one though, this had a lot
of like just coverage pressures and sacks, Dude, Like, yeah,
for sure, nowhere to go with the ball. And like
you said, on that next second down, that's where you know,
he gets sacked and he tries to like get the
ball out and throw it. You know, I was just
(12:00):
doing too much at that time, you know. Yeah, I
think they were in field gold range at that point
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Was that yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, bro, it was on
the twenty seven yard line.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Brother, Yeah, Philly. So that that's.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
What the thing with with Love when I was watching
the game too, like you just can't. They was in
the first drive when they was in field goal range,
and he put them out of field goal range by
taking the sack and then before halftime somehow we need
to get points, and you just doing too much, losing
the rock, trying to do just go down with it
or throw it out of bounds, getting because nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
He already had his hand wrapped up. He trying to
switch it to the other hand, lose it like it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, yeah, just doing too much though, brother, I'm just
saying right there, we could have had six points and
ended up losing by three.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
But those are just six easy buckets three.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It could have been over, you know what I'm saying,
It could have been overtime. Like worst case, worst case
is is what happened. They turned the ball, worst case.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
What did you do? Philly get the you know, Philly
get the ball back.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
And again, dude, they running past, they running past hurts Man.
He scrambles, he gets out of the pocket for you know,
I think it was like maybe three four yards something
like that. And like, at what point do you like
say to your past rushes, Hey, don't rush past this, dude. Man,
this is not Joe Flacker. You can't rush past him
and hope to circle back around. He's going to take off.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, you're creating passes, you're creating escape lanes for me.
He's gonna use him.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, and you know it's coming towards the end of
the half. They just threw a fourth down where they're
just trying to burn the clock out. They burn the
clock out through it our bounds. It's a great half though.
Man zero zero, man zero zero. That's that's that's my
kind of game, baby.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
And it was defense was making plays. Defense is making plays.
They was forcing turnovers when they got into the red zone,
you know what I'm saying, sacking them when they were
in a field goal range. So defenses were stepping up. I knew,
I knew this.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
This is what fut all ship looked like.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I started realizing now, Debo, the more I become a
fan that I become kind of not I want the defense,
Like I don't like false passing, passing, apperances, like I
see offense gets away with everything. But you do kind
of want to see like that are they doing bad
or is it doing good? So on some of the
plays you don't know what it is. I'm like, I
like it, but like hold on, the defense is strapping.
(14:20):
You're like this, man, that's a bad passing. It's a
good ass play. By the dB, you know what I'm saying.
So it's a little bit of both, like both getting
paid at the same time. So it's like it's that bad,
but it's like, no, these dudes are also good, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Philly, come out. They get the ball in the third
quarter again staying ahead. First play, say Kwani, he runs
it for seven. They end up getting to that next
I believe, first down and he hits he hits god
her for like twenty two.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Again.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
This is a situation where like yo, like ain't nothing
in front of him this time though, so like keep
going back.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
They end up keep thinking. They end up settling and
you know, he gets it, he gets it behind him,
you know.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Next play, I think Hurts missed the tight end like
he had that Like that would have been that would
have been money right there if he was short that
they give it to Say Kwani, he hit another six,
It put some you know, in that third down, I
think they hit got it again for eight. The first down,
I think he scrambled again again. I think he scrambled
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for what another five six or something like. Next I
think Walker, what was it he shot through that thing
by solid tackle for agive. Oh yeah, tackle, that was
a good play right there. Like I like seeing stuff
like that. They end up getting a delayed game. On
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third down, they go to third and twelve again, I'm thinking,
you know, they playing the safe because they know they
within the field goal range, so they go ahead, play.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
The safe, They get a they get a field goal.
First score just first quarter together three zero.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Nine minutes or over nine minutes and left in the
third quarter.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Bro three zero. Man, I'm loving this, man, Like this
is what this is what this is what I like
to see.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I don't even know what people understand, like like when
you when you when you defensive minded, like I want
to see see everybody play good on both sides, Like
when I'm watching somebody that I don't root for, I
want to see everybody play good on both sides.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
That way, I see a good, good game. You know.
That's kind of like when you see Pittsburgh Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I understand how you feel on that, but I only
feel like that because I have no loyalty take you
have no loyalty to say, so I don't know how
you can feel like that, and you say you got
loyalty to both.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
But anyway, oh see it's the complete opposite of what
you're saying. You know, when you don't have no loyalty
to either team, it's the complete opposite.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I have all my love teams. When you don't have here,
and when you don't have none, you can just look
at it from outside.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
When I got it from so much, then I'm looking
at it from the We got the same perspective, but
just completely.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I got you, I got you, Green Bay, get out there.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I love hit watching for twenty Like you know, they
moved the ball a little bit, they staying ahead of
the Chaine little you know, and then uh hunt. I
think he made a nice play, dude for that loss.
Yes before it was a four yard loss.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
That was That was nice. That was nice.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Second down love and is up scrambling for about five
and third down, dude. That was a great pass, dude,
great pass. But he couldn't hold onto it. Dobbs could
not hold onto that thing, buddy. Yeah, he got to
snatched all day. Bro ended up going for it on fourth.
(17:44):
And here's a crazy thing. It would have been a
first down if if who wasn't uh was it Milton
Melton hadn't dropped the ball. That's the first down, for sure,
he's there. Clear, it's off of him. I thought at
first the DV made a play. He didn't like it
just bumped off of him.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah, he was in a good spot though. Oh yeah,
he would have made the tackle for sure. But dude
dropped the rock.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So they end up Yeah, he up turning it over
on downs, Pilly get the ball back. I'm thinking it
might be a little bit of trouble, but dude, Green Bay.
They stand up threeing out I meaning out quick. I mean,
of course with that you know that uh what was it?
Six yards?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Negative? Six yards? Like nobody block? That's going to say nobody?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
He went free? He drops a kwiing Like how do
you not block him? Like he's right there, he's one
of the one up front. Like how you don't block
the d lineman, Bro? That don't even make no sense.
They end up having to punt the rock. Green Bay
get it back. They started feeding Jacobs again.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
He get it.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
He get eleven on the first down. I think the
next first down they hit Wix for twenty you know
later I think he love ends up hitting Watching for
twenty two.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
But they got that illegal for mation. That killed it.
Bro killed the whole drive, the whole drive again.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
The dv's make a nice play that repeated that second down.
You know that third down coverage is great again. He
ended up having to scramble and throw it away. They
punted the rock Philly, get it back like it starts
to have a little bit of breakdown, a little bit break.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Yes, this you can You can only fight for so long.
You can only fight for so long. Sai Kwan is
still also getting paid twenty million dollars a year as
the best running back in the league. So how long
your question?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
That third that third and seven, they gave him that
little short one.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Dude, Dude, I knew dude wasn't gonna get him. I'm like,
he either go running round or he goes run over.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Bro, he's gonna make this man's going to something something
going out. He's not about to tackle this. It's so
much open space. I couldn't even see once when he
first caught the ball.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Like, no, put him in, No, put him in the
Spence cycle all the way spencycle. Dude.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
If I'm I ain't gonnaven lie to you, bro, if
I'm not, if that's me right there and I'm coming
up to tackle him.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I'm not even breaking down.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I'm gonna take my shot, going to shoot, got to
shoot your line and the door and hope that he
don't think I'm gonna do it and do a stutter.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
All that, all that, all that little blowing down, trying
to chop your feet is gonna get you broke down.
Exactly what he got, exactly what he got. Man.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Then the next play, Hurt's gone ahead and lay that
thing out the smith man.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
That was a nice play man, that was That's how
you make a play on the ball.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Six yard touchdowns ten to Nathan. I'm thinking Green Band
really did too much work on it, you know what
I'm saying. I'm thinking it might be over with and
then Free Bay come out there.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Br they go eleven plays, seventy seven yard score touchdown
bro of course with the help.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Big Pa twenty plus pi and of course Jacob he
finished it off with the six yard touchdown.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Bruh.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, it's seventy ten with just under six minutes in
the fourth. We got a game game, now, dude, we
got a game game. Filly, get up out there. I
think they was able to do about what was it,
nine or ten plays? But the big one was that third.
I thought it was overhere. They got that third down completion,
third and twelve, Yeah, third.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
And twelve to Deavonte Smith. Oh, I was like, that's
the that's good money, bruh.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I'm like, yeah, I don't. I don't know if that's
I don't know if they're gonna be able to slow
this down.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Man. They go and start doing a little little running
here and there.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I think they forced green Bay at that point to
maybe called one time out, because yeah, on the thirty
and eight they go and they passed the ball.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It stops the clock.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
If they had rented, they would have used up another
They had to at least use up another time out
some time off the clock, and they end up I think,
giving green Bay the ball back with like almost two
twenty left on the clock or something like that.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Has act green Bay. They gone ahead, get to it.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I think it was like a third and ten ta
Love next again to this boy watching for twenty five
and it's just now the two minute warning. Bro, Like,
I'm like, yo, this couldn't you know this could be
interesting dude? No, for sure, Bro, I hate that it
was Jacob's bro work. They had I hate.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
It had to be him, man, he was doing so well,
yes he was, and they try to get try to
get him that name that rock he got that first time.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I think he had like four five yards and then
he fumbled that thing.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Rh called Philly recovered his son.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I'm like, okay, they still you know, they still got
to They got a few timeouts, they might be able to,
you know, stop them Green Bay. Then I think they
ended up stopping them, stopping sat Quan on the sat
Quan on the first two runs, and they had time
out so they was able to call their timeouts. And
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then I don't know why they went for it on.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
The fourth time off fourth and six. They threw the
fade ball two. I didn't understand that at all. Your
defense has been bawling. Give them to hunt joint down there,
and then they're only going to have like twenty something.
You know what I thought that, you know what I
thought they were about to do. I thought they were
(23:49):
about to do a quick kick.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Where you snapped it to that to the quarterback and
then they don't have the back time back there. They're
not thinking about that. He punted and then y'all just
go and cover. That's what I about to do.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And then I'm like, dude, they actually threw the rock
Like that's crazy, bro.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, bro, grenybody get the ball back down. On that
first down, he throws that thing up. If it wasn't
for that coveras we be talking, we be talking about
a different score right now.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I believe m hm.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Second down, they ended up getting one for eighteen, and
then they they go for the field goal. Dude went
on head and got him a quick practice kick. I
see him saying, snap it, snap it. After they called
the time out.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It was like trying to get that. Actually, my leg
ain't gonna get there, baby. All right, the.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Dophense go back out there. See if we can't pick
up a quick you know, five five, six yard out
or something. They not complete that. They're like, hell, ain't
no time left. They put him back out there. He
gotta do it, and you know he shanked the ball.
Philly gone ahead and win ten to seven.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Bro. I listen, that's my type of game, man, I likesta.
I don't think it getting no better than that, baby.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I feel like it was really it was good. It
was really good defense, like you said, on both sides
of the ball. I feel like both quarterbacks. Uh, definitely underperformed.
But sometimes, like you said, it's either the defense is
doing it to you. You're applying pressure or you're getting
pressure applied to you. So I think them playing sticky
man the man, you know what I'm saying. That made
situations tough. But those the fumbles, you know what I'm
(25:27):
saying in the red zones, the sacks that Jordan Love took,
I don't think that was good for you know what
I'm saying, Like, those are just mistakes that you took
points off the ball for your team. But it was
a I can't take nothing for defense or green Bay
because it came.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Down to Philly's defense played better then green Bay's defense did,
and then.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Green Bay's offense didn't make those chump plays didn't get
those those situation rational things together, where Philly they got
chunk plays. Dude, Like they only had what was it,
three chunk plays all together. That was like, that's all
it took, and they did it at times that helped them.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Put point need on the board.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
In green Bay, they weren't able to the defense. I like, dude,
I like seeing that defense outplay the other defense. The
offense made the plays when they needed to. The other
defense made the plays when they needed to. The combination
of the two they came through with the w. This
is what good on good football looks like.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
People.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
It shouldn't be forty five to forty three and y'all
think it's a great gas.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
No, it's not trash. Yes, like that was trash lo
for sure. There wasn't a lot of mistackles, you know
what I'm saying. There's people are on the alignments and
Sigmon's techniques. There's red zones that're making plays when they
need to. Like, don't think the Eagles are good offensive team.
The Green Bays a good offensive team. Jacobs is a
(27:02):
great running back, you know what I'm saying. Love, He's
been able to cut people up when these dudes are
in position, making plays these third downs where tight coverages.
You know what I'm saying, he's throwing out of bound
because hopefully if not, it would have been a pick six.
So it's really good seeing defenses like that being able
to step up, perform, and on the offensive side of
the ball, you know that there's plays to be made
and there's things that were left on the field. But
(27:22):
when you're a Philly, You're still able to walk out
of that stadium with a dove knowing your defense ball
out in offense. There's so much left on the bone
for us to be able to score points, be able
to make these.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Players, and both both head coaches like, Yo, it's gonna
be a dog fight, Like we know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
We're not gonna sit here and.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Break ourselves into, you know, doing ridiculous plays that we
know aren't aren't going to succeed. We're gonna have to
earn get it down there and pick our spots to
where we're going to try and get a chunk play
here and there.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
You know, coaches were smart.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Speaking of their head coaches, brou they announced that they
fired your boy the ball over there and what was it,
New York? Yeah, buddy over And I think they said
the GM is staying.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Is that right? Yeah? Bruh, How does that work? I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You agree with you disagree, you think it's too late,
too soon? You know what this is me? This is
what I This is just my personal thing.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Please tell me.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
If I didn't fire him at the end of twenty four,
I would have definitely fired him, like at least three
four weeks ago. Like, okay, you at the end of
twenty four they lost ten straight bright, that was a
franchise record, bro, Like they lost ten straight Okay. On
(28:50):
top of that, maybe he was able to talk him
into saying like, hey, it's not me. He sat Jones
down and then he got rid of Jones. Okay again,
the old Daniel Jones went over there and showed that hey,
this ain't me over the it's not my fault. So
now you're looking back and you're like, oh, maybe it
(29:13):
wasn't him. Recent history, you know, it shows that the
ball you can't even hold the league to get to win.
That's what I'm saying, Like, I don't understand the don't
get rid of the GM part unless you're saying the
GM had no power to make any kind of decisions
(29:36):
and you gave all the power to the head coach
to make the decisions on who you're getting, what you're doing,
everything else. That's the only way I can see that
you still hold on to the GM.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Like this whole situation, I'm more of a how do
you feel about I'm more of a coach. I like
when the coach and the GM are more married to
each other because you gotta work together. You're going to
be giving the coach the players, and the coach you
gotta have a relationship.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I like that more.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I think that more works out more smooth than GM.
You just get a coach to players and now he
got to deal with whatever you got them, whatever you
give them.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Do you understand what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
You know?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I think that's how it should work. But I think
most places, one person has more power than the other
because when it comes down to it and I say yes,
you say no, who's the decide.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Buck stop somewhere? Which way do it go? Do it
go to do it? Do it go to head coach way?
Or do it do it go to GM's way.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
So maybe this is a situation where it just kept
going ahead coach with Maybe you know, they're saying that
the interim head coach is going to be the OC
you know, and he had been there since well twenty
twenty two or something like that. He came in with
day Ball. So maybe that was a situation where dude
(31:03):
came out of Kansas City. He was in KC for
like five years something like that. Over there with with
with Pat mahoons in them and maybe he wanted to
keep Daniel.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I just like playing that getting stuff. Just don't like
getting suff started. You know, maybe he wanted to keep dead.
He saw what it could be. But the ball was like, no,
I gotta get rid of him. I got to save
my own ass because like I don't want to get fired.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
No, no, no, for sure, I think they get I mean, Davo,
he went twenty forty one loss, was new come on
twenty forty on one, and then this year blew three
ten point leads. So I mean, that's just not good.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
And then I think with Jackson Dark, seeing what you
have there with the getting rid of the head coaches
of the GM, I don't know how they really are
doing that because I'm not rocking with the GM. I
don't think as much this.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Who aren't the GM the one that got rid of
Sakwon Barkley and Danie Jones? Was he the same I'm thinking? So,
so I'm looking at it like at the end of
the day, all y'all gotta go, we need to take
care of Dark.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Because we actually do have a pretty good quarterback. We
need to get him protected with the offensive line. I
think Dark needs to kind of take care of himself,
protect himself. He already got damned in full concussions already
rookie season. So line being able to make sure you
protect this dude and not making him get hit upside
the head all the time.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
He got to be able to slide get the ball
out of his hands. Because I like Dark, I think
to play.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
He got to protect himself and they gotta not call
as many running plays, you know what I'm saying. So
you got to be able to get the ball out
of his hands. So I'm more with if you getting
rid of the day Bo, you need to get rid
of that whole GM that made bad decisions, getting rid
of Sa Kuan and Daniel Jones. It's just a whole
little bit of messed up the whole thing over there.
Start fresh, knowing you got a good quarterback. Get somebody
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that that's going to help out Dark, that believes in him,
a GM that loves that, that believes in Dark. I
think when when you bring people in, you have a quarterback,
you got a nice running Backscatta, but you.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Have some young pieces. The receiver too. My man was
with LSU.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
He's been hurt whole year. So you don't have your
number one, Like you're out there playing with all your
pieces still on out there. So it's not like you
don't have talent. They have talent. You got a quarterback
that I really like. You need to protect them and
bring in the GM and the coach that also believe in.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. You Like I said, I'm getting
rid of the GM. Speaking of getting rid of I
guess the Stellers cut the safety thorn Hill. Yeah, like,
I don't know if that's a big move. I don't
really think much like they made like they was about
(33:45):
to make a move move. I don't that's the move move.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
I mean, we got in the dude, Kyle Duggar, the
young safety twenty nine that as soon as he came in,
he's been playing a lot better.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
He hasn't been missing the signmons.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I haven't seen too much like he's making tackle communication.
Really hasn't been too many bus so, I mean, if
you see him stepping there and I haven't seen any downfall.
And they said that he got a thorn Hill ended
up getting demoted, so he's been playing kind of more.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
You ain't getting no regular special teams. You ain't getting
no regular snaps, you know, no no spot, especially as
a you know, as a safety like you're supposed to
be in there on the nickel package. Is something that
that or sure evant, especially when all you're doing is
special teams.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yeah, So I mean I'm glad. I mean I'm not
glad that they got rid of them. But I just
seen Kyle Douggat that's in there, and he hasn't been
playing bad at all. He's just been in position. Not
too many flashes. But if your name isn't being called
sometimes a dB, that's a good thing, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Dude, did you look at the photo of Aaron did? I?
I think I sent to you Listen, broh, that looks uncomfortable.
Can we even put that picture? Can we put that
picture up? Please? It's right strange, so small? Hey, But
(35:08):
that that's that's one of them.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
That's one of them hits that you see a boxer
get where the stored his whole face?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yes, yes, we don't like jump catch up a slow motion.
We don't freeze frame my dog. We put him in
that's that that's a very vulnerable position. And that's but question,
no question. So was that a sack or was it
a I think it might have been a I think
it was a sack.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
I started talking, you know, I like, I like, you know,
I like starting stuff. Man, isn't that helmet to helmet?
That is for show? Do you think you see his helmet?
You go get him envelope of FedEx.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Only reason he may not was because he was uh,
because he was running, because he was running the ball.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
But he's still he still might get him. I don't
want it to happen because I don't want to happen here. Then, dude,
it's bad. He didn't lower his head, he didn't do nothing.
He just ran over there and tackled the man. He
didn't even really put any knee bend into it. Not
find him on this man, we defense y'all in trouble.
(36:23):
I'm a text bud to see if he got fine.
Check it out. See if he got fine. Bro, see
if he got fine.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
And I hope if we get fine it's not because
well because it's on our because it's on the show,
and we like dry snitching on them.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Man, listen, I ain't listening to us.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
They don't paying no attention, especially if it's me whatever
I say, they gonna do the opposite. You know what
I'm saying, fine headline even Roger, he ain't gonna do
what I say.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
You know what I'm saying. NFL don't care man. Man. Yeah,
they hopefully they don't find man.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
They got an NFL exact saying that tour his benching
and like McDaniel's fire and should have been done already.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Dude, what do you think, brou.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Look, we've been talking about McDaniel depot since the way earlier, way, way,
way a long time agoing earlier in the season, thinking
with the way that like leader of men answers to questions,
just being able to like I just don't know sometime
what he was saying in the meetings, I mean not
in the meetings.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
And that's something on the sooner ross that he don't
want him to get let out.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I'm just, you know, I just I push stuff out there.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
And you you you always you always going from the
devil on this side of your something. You know, it's both,
you know, I would I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I wouldn't be mad at it because at the end
of the day too, I just don't like with with
with Tuur. I mean some games he could be amazing,
some games he won't.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
I just don't really like to is like leadership, the
way that he was kind of going about the way
that he was doing things, so I could say he
rubs other just professional people the wrong way, you know
what I'm saying. So I could see how his play
and then the way that he leaves a little bit
could rub people the wrong way. But the investment they
have in him is probably why they trying to keep
him out there and not put him on the bench
for coach.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
The way that he's been able to handle.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Some of these situations, the way that the team has
been playing like, I could easily see why they could
get rid of.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Him and to it.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
So them not doing it, they're doing a good job
of sometimes just stepping up when it gets real bad.
They perform very well because they know that, you know
what I'm saying, it could be any game they do really,
really bad, they can easily get fired. The name is
always on the hot seat. So I think they're doing
a good job of just trying to fight for their jobs.
They know it's on the line, they know everybody's talking
about them. But then at the same time, I wouldn't
(38:41):
be surprised if it already happened.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Don't know, bro, I think, well, like this, they say,
it's heard that Stephen Ross said he was basically giving
until at least end of the year, if not all
of next year to see, you know, to see where
it's at. You know what I'm saying, you know, it's
(39:10):
I think the biggest thing for me is like, yo,
I got to get rid of you. You you losing
football games, period, That's what.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
That's what. That's the first thing.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
And then secondly, as you said, everything around you, with
the players, how they're getting along with each other, what
what what my starting quarterback is doing, how he's representing it, what.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
He's saying, you know, I'm not down with it.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
And on top of that, like they don't get rid
of nobody, and then they end up firing the two
player personnel, guys that have been with the team since
what was it, ninety nine ninety four?
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Like what did they do? Right?
Speaker 2 (39:53):
It's like you go fire somebody, You go fire some
dudes that that that that been there for over you know,
twenty five year, twenty plus years, Like what what did
they do to get like did they have some.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Fault in this? Are you trying to figure out, like,
like what powers do they have that would.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Make it to where they're the ones that you get
rid of and you do nothing about the head coach
who can't put together a sentence man, and your quarterback
that's just dry snitching on everybody. Don't know you're not
You got a players only meeting week one and nobody
is going and showing up to it like you have
(40:35):
no camaraderie, like nothing, and you're giving the yeah, we
go try this and you do nothing. You ain't try nothing.
All you did was try to make like you was
go try something. You ain't try nothing. Like I'm trying
to tell you, man, he got he got something. He
gotta have something on Ross Man. I don't know, man,
I'm just putting it out there. Man, I'm just saying
a quarterback go stay around after that kind of performance
(40:57):
and then the responses and things that he give to
why things happen or didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
It's unbelievable. Bro. No, I'm with you, you bo.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
But you know how either the owners probably are right
now knowing end of the day they got to it
there for fifty five million dollars a year. They paid
him that dough, so he kind of is not going nowhere.
So they kind of living in the bed that they made.
And then with the coach, I could see them getting fired.
But then at the same time, when they come and
beat the Bills by time something, you know, it's not
(41:30):
a bad look. Like all right, you know what I'm saying,
You could okay, bet player, Like we said too, the
players are professionals. So even if you don't like your coach,
you're gonna go out there and ball because iron the
scot don't lie.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
I'm trying to get I'm trying to get.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
A contract, letting everybody know I'm worth whatever I'm worth,
no matter if I'm playing for them or I'm playing
for the Bills.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I'm playing for whoever. I can get picked up if
I leave this spot, you know.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
What I'm saying. So players gonna play, They're gonna perform.
But it's kind of like you could get rid of
the coach and then he's not answering questions and then
you go out there and beat the Bills.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
So I'm like, damn. So then you think about the Bills,
they probably played down to it. Yeah, no, no, we
talked about that.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
You you were and there was in Miami, right you
in Miami? Ye, go ahead, getting into some good weather.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Man.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
They thinking about all this good weather. They just came
out of out of Buffalo. It's cold and a Mickey
Ficky up in there.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
A chain went fed on him and too it was
doing some deep So yeah, like I don't Yeah, I
don't know. And matter of fact, let's stick with the quarterbacks.
What about uh Kyler Murray over there? You think he's
still he still can be like a one, you know,
a number one quarterback starter?
Speaker 1 (42:39):
What what do you think? Man? Can he can try baseball?
They tripping out their minds.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
I'd still look like and if I were the Browns,
I would I would love Kler Murray.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
I wouldn't be mad at Cayler Murray.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Even though they say he's sure, I think he can
still he could still move around.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
He could still then change. What do you think they
gonna give Kylein Murray a chance for him?
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (43:04):
I understand, But when you asked me a question, is
he a starting quarterback? So I'm like, I think he
still is a starting quarterback. I don't know if it
is in Arizona, he might get switch destinations. I don't
know if that they're still getting along or at that
that vibe is right, especially even with new situation, I
think could start better for him because remember when he
even when he wrote his contract debot and they was like, uh, yeah,
(43:27):
you have to study your iPad for X amount of hours.
I'm like, hold the hold Well that was because that
was because he was not a guy that was known
for doing the things that needed to be done.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Even inside the facility, They're like.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yo, this dude is the first dude, first dude out,
and the last dude in quarterback.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Okay, no, no, you expect that. Look a look how
about this?
Speaker 3 (43:51):
How about the same thing you said with with with
George too, you maybe you need another place to grow,
maybe a little separate, give you a little time, a
different scene to be people that actually believe in you.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
And now he knows nah, I can't be on that.
You know what I'm saying, like, this is my second chance.
I got another spot.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
I got to show them what I'm about and I
got to prove to everybody else I'm a winner.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
You know what I'm saying I can make it happen.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
So I don't not believe in Colin Ray because the talent,
his arm, strength, his speed is I just don't know
about the progression, but I know he can.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
I think he could be an NFL quarterback. So I
think I think he's an athlete. I'm with you. I
think he can be a one somewhere. But it got
to be and that and that perfect setup.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I think even himhimself, he's a guy that has trouble
throwing over tall life.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
He has an issue. He has said that, and I.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Think that's a personal issue that he has to figure
out how to be able to get over and be
able to adjust and still be successful. Because now they
got a roll Hi out of the pocket. They got
to do all of that, especially in a time where
you know it's it's timing passes boom boom. Get it
to him, you know, and he can't see that the
dude is actually open because somebody is in front of him.
(45:00):
He's not used to doing it. I mean, it could
be done. All you got to do is, you know,
go look at Doug Flutie did it for ten bush
years or whatever, Drew Bree But I'm talking about that five.
You know what I'm saying, Like Drew Brees was closer
to six.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
I believe, Like.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Dude, you know what I'm saying, And that's only good day.
You know what I'm saying. I think they give me
more than what he really is. So I believe you
can too.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
I believe. But it has to be that right situation.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
It got to be that that set up because the
difficulty of his own personal issue is being able to
get the ball out and seeing where it needs to
go on time because of it's still because of its height.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
You make a good You make a really good point,
and especially when that like even with looking at the
always going back to around Dylan Gabriel not the tallest
guy can't really see over the line, and even with
Colin Murray, like you said, it's not it's not science.
If you got sick five linemen standing in front of you,
you can't see, you know what I'm saying, So sometimes
you might have to slide to the side, angles and
(46:06):
throws so tall being able to be a taller quarterback
in him saying that too, like man, some of those
I can't see him, Like damn, oh you don't know
if you put that means you may anticipation got to
be up a little bit, like you might have blindly
knowing where the routes are coming.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
But if you can't see, you can't see. I can't
let I can't.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
You can't let that ball go not knowing exactly where
it's going, or if that person is completely open because
I can't see the full view of where I'm throwing
it to.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yeah, he just I don't know how he did it
due maybe they was shorter back then. I don't know.
I think a lot of a lot of interceptions too. Though. Hey, look,
I say, Bud, did you get fined by g He said,
not yet. I hope you don't. Listen, I'm home. Then
(47:00):
he don't get find it. But he looking at that too,
and they keep putting it up, and he like, yo, man,
just put that down. Listen. That's what I was like, Uh,
the forty two for the Stellers. What's his name? He
did that? Scoop dump and everything on on the on the.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
On instagram NFL now NFL, NFL this NFL that your
instagrams are like, yo, this is fully legal. So Roger,
when you if you find him, you might want to
talk to you. You're just posting all your social media. Hey,
take a screenshot of it right now before they take
it down. I know them dirt balls.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
He go here, hopefully he'll go five pa, pa. That's
what they did to me. They sold the picture and
all that.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
As soon as I started saying, y'all finding me and
you're selling the picture, they took the picture down and
canceled doing all that.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
The mask joint, right, you dirt balls exploded? Yeah you
dirt hey man.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
They said that boy Gronk go sign him a one
day contract so he could retire with the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Bro, Yes, deservingly. So every did you sign your one
day contract to retire with Brown? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:14):
I did, dude, you retired? Yes, like you you you
were brown. Everybody knew you as a Brown. You know
what I'm saying, dah Man.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
I had to go back, though, man and make it
official like a ristal and I respect.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
I think that's that's a good thing. Bro. Go back there.
Patriots was a spot he wanted crazy ships there, that's crazy.
He won. He won crazy. Patriots was where his thing was.
He'll go in the hall as a Patriot.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
But when you asked Gronk, who he rooting for when
the Patriots played Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
Oh his see look look, look, look, it's not even
close to how much Ground only spent many years of
Gronk spend in Tampa depot about four years? How many
years he spent in New England about eight, nine, ten?
Come on, man, that's more than just talking about like
(49:15):
how many years did you spend it, Joe?
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Mean years you spend in Cleveland, Joe. Seven. It's a laja.
That's exactly the perfect truth depot.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
And you're crazy if you don't understand. I did twelve
years in the NFL seven.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
So you're going in as a stay in the Hall
of Fame. Huh what did you say? I couldn't he
How can you just say no?
Speaker 3 (49:47):
Because my bro, my Stellers, my still I went to
I went to two Pro Bowls when I was with
the Browns, only with the one when I was a Stealer.
I had nineteen picks when I was with the Browns.
I only had nine, nine or nine when I was
with Stillers. So my career was better there too, That's
why you know what I'm saying. So you can't but
(50:07):
you can't pick who you want to win, but you're
gonna go in yo.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Your words listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Your words say one thing, But when people's words don't allow,
don't align with their actions, it's called bullshit.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
What part of my words don't align?
Speaker 2 (50:30):
You're going in as a brown? But yet you want
to say you have no loyalty to either one. You
want to see both do? Well, that's I do. Your
actions show me you're a Brown.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
You know what, Joe. I ain't gonna lie to you.
I don't. I don't want to say this, but.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Sometimes I just don't feel the fury when we lose
that I feel from you when the Browns lose. Maybe
it's just because I'm so happy that the Browns lost.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
That's what That's what it is. That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
You're happy when I'm sad, and when you're mad, I'm
also with you, But like you just don't feel.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
That level of Joe, how you not on my level?
But you let me tell you? Let me tell you why?
Because I'm a what you know what I do. I
don't get too up and too down. I'm more even
killed than you. You get real mad and real glad
you guys.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
Stay more even killed debo. You know what I'm saying, Like,
they're gonna be straight. That's why I'm mad, mad.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Straight again, be straight. I want to hear that. You
that's it's just gonna happen. They're gonna be straight. Hellt,
what the hell you mean? They just gonna be straight?
Because man, man, well, who's your defense player to we
do my defensive player of the week? What's my man name?
(52:04):
Number nine?
Speaker 3 (52:05):
For the New York Jets, he had about a four
piece on the brands for his sack.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
McDonald think, I think, I think he went on here
and he was franchise records.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
But see sacks in the game as a Jet, he
was he was hooping and my man is like, he
was on.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
How you get your player to week? Somebody to lose,
but go ahead. I understand I did too.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
So that's the same way they gave the m v
P to the losing team in the NBA Finals one time.
I forgot what his name was. Lost the ship won
the m v P. You bruh, bro, I'm definitely gonna
have to look that up. That's signing raise.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
I'm gonna go with you. I'm gonna go I'm gonna
go with you there on the on the on the
defensive player, I'm with you there on. Now you know
what I'm saying, Man, Man did Man did what he
had to do.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
Man, you know what I'm saying. He did, and he
won the game. Yes, he wanted you play to win.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
You win the game, understand. A matter of fact, Man, Hey,
did you see that thing that was said? Man?
Speaker 1 (53:14):
That the dude from uh Troy, Troy up up there.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Man, he went ahead and robbed the gas station bro
up there in Michigan.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
Dude, see he got a check man, look at God
to be more careful. Hey, bro, listen, I'm gonna tell
you the truth. What do you think. I'm gonna let
you cut your camera off. I'm gonna let you go.
You're gonna let me go. You tell me?
Speaker 2 (53:44):
What do you think happened to you? Why do you
think this whole situation happened? Man pulled it a K
four seven, robbed the stove.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
And took off. What do you think happened Joe? What
led him to do something so you nastily?
Speaker 3 (54:11):
I don't know the AK forty seven robbing at the
I thought he robbed the I thought he robbed the
barber shop.
Speaker 1 (54:19):
I will get y'all. I don't know debos.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Just give me what you think, Joe, Just give me something.
Come on, Joe, you got to have an imagination. You
got to have something. What would you what would you
comment on this, Joe?
Speaker 1 (54:33):
What would you rob a gas station with a before
the AK forty seven? He had a bad day. He
had a really bad day, de bo. He looked, Yeah,
what do you think? So? Because my bands Jone is
pushing back so ridiculous. As you look at that, where's
it right here? Where's it over here?
Speaker 2 (54:54):
As you look at that over here? Okay, because it's
it's opposite mirror, Yeah, you're on the screen. As you
look at that, I'm gonna tell you'all what happened. That
is a fresh cut. Okay, listen, you can tell by
(55:14):
all the lines on it that is a fresh cut. Now,
this is a this is this is this is a
booking picture.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Right.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
He did not go This is much shot. He did
not go and get a fresh cut. Before they came
to arrest him.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
They pushed that man that I've never seen anybody gets.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
I'm trying to tell you what happened, Joe. Listen, so
with that being the case, this is what I think happened. Okay,
my nigga went in there to the barber shop. You
got fresh and clean. You know, after you get your
hair cut, you're feeling a.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
Certain way about yourself. You're feeling real good. The man
goes into the gas station, he got his walk, his talk.
Speaker 2 (56:08):
He goes to do something, maybe get something, do something passier.
That's over, yes, and god, dude, and then the cashier said,
I'm gonna see you around like this. My dude said,
(56:30):
oh no, you won't. He went to the tall and
he got the AK four seven. He ain't even want
to rob the place. He just wanted some respect, Okay.
He thought he had it gone. He then found out
that he didn't. He went in there and just to
add a little insult, he wanted to just scare him.
(56:53):
He said, hey, give me the money too, okay, and
then he ran up out of there.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
Okay, that was on the haircut. That was it. Bro
Did he make but this one, I'm saying, debo, how
the how did he make it out of the barbershop?
Did he not looking at talking about he asked for that?
He thought it was it. They gassed him up in
the barbershop talking about that's clean. Bro. Look at Stephen
(57:19):
Ain Man, he say that's clean too, Stephen Ain't my god.
Let me let me tell you this debo and no
and no world.
Speaker 3 (57:27):
All that light skinned spots on his head, that's all
was covered with hair before they pushed this man back
so far there's no way the front.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Middle part is that.
Speaker 2 (57:38):
I'm trying to tell you he's not leaving the barbershop
if they pushed him back that bad and he got
the ak in the car because everybody in there got
to get laid down.
Speaker 4 (57:48):
Okay, everybody in the barber shop. They need to go
check the barber shop. Everybody every barbershop this man go to.
Don't y'all show up there. Listen, he asked for this joke,
that this was not no act thing do he asked.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
For this man? Okay, I'm trying, Joe. Look, I got
a bald head, Joe. Okay, you know why I got
a bald head, Joe, because my top is glass and
I got a sun roof all.
Speaker 2 (58:14):
The way in the back. Okay, but my saw roof
right here in the back. If I did that, I
deserve everything I got.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
Coming de Bo.
Speaker 2 (58:27):
But that's why he needs to just let it go.
He needed to go trying to tell y'all officers the
law man done took enough of a beating. I'll go ahead.
Let him on out.
Speaker 1 (58:41):
Man. He got he got it, he got his head. Hey, man,
don't be doing all that because you got to make
sure my top ain't falled off the boat. Got Put
your hood back on, man. You want to wear a
hood and all that. Put your hood back on, man. Man,
hold on, man, Man, show my top, man, and he's
had mine. He made me scre about making sure my top.
That's what happened, bro, Man, I feel sorry, Yeah, for sure,
(59:08):
for sure. Hey, let him no, man, that took enough
of a be All right, come on listen here, man.
We really appreciate y'all being here with us. Man, we're
gonna be back here again on Friday, and good.
Speaker 3 (59:21):
Yes the ball Joe, Yes, sir. Hey guys, Man, make
sure y'all like subscribe d BO and Joe. We appreciate
you guys watching.
Speaker 1 (59:32):
Let's get it. I will see you on Friday, and
we are
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