November 18, 2025 • 55 mins
Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Monday Night Football where Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys go on the road and beat the Las Vegas Raiders, Ja’Marr Chase has been suspended 1 game for spitting on Jalen Ramsey, and Shedeur Sanders is being reported to the the starter this Sunday and much more!
04:30 - Cowboys beat Raiders26:35 - Shedeur to start Sunday36:35 - Ja’Marr Chase suspended41:00 - Abdul Carter gets fined for sleeping in meeting47:55 - Keon Coleman Benched/Dancing on Sidelines52:40 - Michael Penix Injured
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
How you doing today, Joe, let me tell yourself to Debo.
Devo is my time of real play.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
What's up? Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host,
James Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co host Joe Hayden.
Please make sure your guys like and subscribe. You don't
want to miss nothing. Hey, look here, you got a
little bit of a different view right now because my
equipment done mouth functions, so I'm actually shooting from the
camera itself in the laptop.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
So that's what that's what we got going on.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Joe Man, I Pete Man. The pre production show, we
was hot. We were trying to get it figured out,
you know what I'm saying, trying to which cameras we
got bad angles. But you know what, this is good, Debo.
I'm just from Afar. You look perfect.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Listen, Man, this might be something to do with X Man.
I'm have to call Jeff again. Man, got called bezos.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
See what he's doing. Man, I know you had something
to do it. That's the other one too. Elon is
exd Jeff. Well, both of them they probably working together
right now, trying to trying to jack a boy up.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
So they won't.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
They want to raise the price on something already got
a trillion dollars, Like, come on, man, you got enough
too much cheese, like what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Hey, look here, man, let's get this started.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Joe Coyle boys went out here and put their hands
on the Raiders. Yes, they put their hands on the Raiders.
Check it out though, Check it out though. George and
c d they benched them, man for the first couple
of series. Man, they said it was a coach's decision. Reportantly,
(01:45):
they violated some some team rules.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Look here, man, I'm gonna tell you what happened.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Now, you go get we go get it. We gonna
get it started. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gona tell
you what happened through the process. Now, okay, okay. Dallas
went on ahead, they got up out there right, Raiders
went in, forced the three and out right. They punt
the ball off, Raiders get the rock. They gone ahead.
They don't really do too much and nothing. Gino went
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on ahead, hit hit. I think it was the tight
end for eighteen on the first play, and I think
they dropped Jenny for like a one or two yard
lost something like that. And then Gino almost got sacked.
He was able to shake it off, but they end
up punting and then the ball.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Get down inside the five yard line.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So Dallas come back out there, right, Okay, they get
they get one first down conversion and then that next
first down that boy Crosby ran up in there and said.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Sack fumble recovery. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, he was on Dak's head early, on Dak's head early.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
That's what.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
He's one of the only bright spots out there for
the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I'll say next.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, so I think the Raiders they get the ball,
you know inside like the ten fifteen something like that.
The first play they get sad and then old dude
could have had a touchdown but he missed. I think
it was Tucker he missed on the Geno. He missed
Turker on that third down. They get the field goal.
It's three nothing.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
You know what happened?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Jerry said, hey, uh uh uh uh, we ain't doing
this that coaching decisions. You like your job? Do you
like your job?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Do you want do you want?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Do you like him?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
CD and Pickings back out there right now with the
first thing they did. Hit Pickings for twelve, hit picking
for twelve.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Went on ahead and hit what was.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
That lunky lunky something like that. He went on struggled
through on the short path, took it for fifteen. They
calmed down, they gone ahead, slow him down. They ended
up selling it for three. Raders get back out there, man,
and uh, you know, I think he hit who was
(04:03):
the best for like fifteen.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
He hit the powers that's his name. Seventeen.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, I think he hit Thomas. I think this is
like their best drive they had bro No for sure.
The first quarter was was they was their best They did.
The offense did pretty good, they defense, they got a
couple of stops. Then like you said, they end up
getting down there. They got a field goal on this drive.
So yeah, Dallas. Once the second quarter started and Dallas
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got the ball back, that's just when everything went downhill
for the Raiders. Honestly, like they had a little couple
bright spots. Like I said, Crosby balled out in the
first quarter, did the strap strip, force fumble, and they
still were able to get touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
They got a field goal.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Next thing, you know, when Dallas comes out there and
gets the rock, you know what.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
They do, no question. It seemed it seemed like a
little little pick and see d show.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
It was nineteen, then a fifteen, then it was I
think even the runner back had one for like ten
or something like that, right, yeah, for sure, and then
CD got the touchdown for about twenty, right something like that.
It's ten to three. It's starting to go downhill fast, yo.
They was, they was on. They was on Geno's neck
all night though. Oh the raidst offensive line was terrible.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
They was on.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
They was on Gent's neck. They was on Gino's neck.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, man, dude, Jenny could get nowhere. They get the
rock back. They got Gino out there running for his life. Jendy.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
He actually I think he might have had a nice
run that series. You know, I think he got about eleven.
I think the next play they dropped him. He dropped
the pass on the next play again, like Gino was
under pressure, you know, he gets sacked, and I think
that was when they showed Jerry and and uh that
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was that was Williams Yead. Yes, yeah, he got he
got sacked and then your boy went on head and
uh did nothing. Really, he got no protection all night,
and they got to punt the rock like I don't
know what they expect him to do over there. Man,
you can't block to run, you can't you can't protect
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to pass like what they expect him to do.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
It's all bad.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
The offensive line play, like you said, if they if
you're not blocking nobody, your quarterback not gonna be able
to find the receivers and your running backs not gonna
be able to get no yards.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Like the offensive line they're playing bad, and your center
keeps getting beat off the rip, your running backs getting
hit in the backfield. Your quarterback can't find receivers even
if they are open, so they need their line to
block better if they want to get anything going. I'm
not saying Gino's playing good or gentis.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Oh, I'm not saying it playing good. I'm not saying that.
But how can I evaluate it when I'm not giving
it ain't?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You know?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yes, he's getting an opportunity that was ended up getting
the rock back. You see e Rob put that thing
on that boy on that first on that first play though, right.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
They hitting out there, Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
He went on head the pickings again, dude, like they
like was having troubles tackling that boy.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Man, they were scared to tackle that boy. Bro I
don't know what was going on, but he catches the
ball to his intent is to score. He's not trying
to just question down. He's like this now, Oh he's
looking at you. He's like this, Oh, you don't want
none of this. Like I'm ready to stif on you.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I can juke you. I'm faster.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And then like when he caught that and spun out
of it, you know what I'm saying, And then running
He's running full spiece of the.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Pipeline, dead legs the safety and the corner. I'm like,
oh my god.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
And then the corner that was guarding them couldn't even catch.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Up to him.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I'm like, that is athleticism. And it's like I'm getting
the end zone. This isn't what like when you're playing
NFL people are supposed to be cutting back on people.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
He cast the ball at five, Bro, and then literally
pushed you another six yards for an eleven yard game,
Like that should have been five right there.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Tackle down, damn, that's it. That's it.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
He was doing big boy stuff out there.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Bro CD went overhead, jumped in and on third Donald
think he was like fourteen later it was lamb again.
I think he hit about twenty three and then the
fourth and one they went on ahead, got that, got
the whole touchdown, Say give me the whole five it's
seventeen to six.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Man, raiders. Get the ball back.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Nothing yeah, yeah, nothing, nothing, nothing but gone ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Get a tip pick, right.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Non going ahead, but a tip pick. Get the ball
back to the yeah where they.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Go score a game? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Oh man, but did you see that that that one
that that pickings. I won't I won't even want to
say he dropped, but we're done seen him catch those
like we don't see him make a play.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
They said, they said it was almost a pick. I'm like, no,
that was almost. I was almost away. Yeah that was again.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Those are those are the fifty fifties that I'm talking about.
Those are the ones that George He's going to make
that play. Yes, you sigure you expected him to catch
the joint it was they broke it up whatever, he wasn't.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Gonna pick it, but he almost made it, Yes, for sure, dude.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, thirty ten.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
They ended up getting the incompit, but it was a
PI so that that extended the drive. Then Williams they
running back he went on ahead, hit him for sixteen
on that next play, then they will was it They
got a false start and then shaking bait hit Pickings.
I think it was what thirty seven? Yeah, it was
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a thirty seven yard touchdown, Like, come on, br twenty
four to six, scoring downhill fast, dude, Raiders, get out there,
and I was kind of surprised. They went on ahead
and put together a little drive. They got a field goal.
I mean with the help of I think they had
a holding penalty in and an off size and able
(10:03):
to get enough time to connect. I think it was
with the tight end for was it twenty five or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I think it was.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, was it twenty five, because yeah, all they got
was a field go out of it. It went into halftime.
It was like twenty four to nine. Yep, they come
out of halftime. Dallas went on here and stood up
for a high second. They forced it. They forced it
three and out.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Williams.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
He went on here, got at little bit of that
get back, just a little bit because the safety was
still able to tackle him, but he dropped them like
you know, you hit that boom boom straight down.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, he was able to hold onto that leg. I
don't know why I like seeing people get hitting. I
don't care because it's it's it's not often.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
It's not often. They're not going to throw a flag.
It's tough to get them good debo. And when you
get it good without a flag, it's good to see.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I know what you say, because I love it too.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, even though it was the safety getting ran well,
not getting ran over. That's the only reason why he
got a little get back, because if he had ran
him all the way over, he would have got all.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
That get back. Yeah, what I'm saying. And dude.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Like Pickens on that second, Like, dude, it was like
he was in he was in war zone and had
a cheek cold bro like that shouldn't have been no
more than what maybe six seven yards at the most.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
What he ended up getting like thirty or something. His
run after the catch is elite run catch his.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Elite crazy very next one lumpkin again about twelve pickings
right after that.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And that hit second what was that nineteen for a
two yard touchdown? What's his name? I can't remember name?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Remember when he ran a nice, nice little pivot route too.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, he shook you, dude, thought he was all the
way in.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
As soon as he saw he turned that head, he
cut that thing back out thirty one to nine.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
So I'm really i ain't gonna lite you. I'm kind
of thinking the game is over even though it ain't
even the fourth quarter yet. And somehow the Raiders come
out there, put together another dry and that fourth and
one that they can I shouldn't say they converted, I could.
I should say genty converted because he had no blocking whatsoever.
I thought he was just dead in the water. He
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was able to convert that. And then it's it's you know,
it's sixteen or what thirty one. Then it's almost a
whole fourth quarter left, and then Dallas get the kickoff return.
They bring it all the way almost to midfield. I'm like, yeah,
it's for sure over with and the Raiders force are
(12:56):
three and now broo we yo.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And then dude, who was that Tucker? Why are you
even grabbing the ball right there?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Like you get tackled at what was it?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
The two acting up as you try and return it,
like you're.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Don't field the ball inside the ten?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
What are you doing after it bounced? You better hope
it just keep going that.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Way, bro let them, let them try to recover in
the way that these dudes be acting on special teams.
They gonna slide into the damn end zone, put their
foot on the ball like somehow, but you bring up,
you catch it yourself.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Let the ball un.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Then they get the ball back the first play they
false start.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
So it take them from the from the two to
the one.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And you know, they because they can't pass the ball,
because they can't block.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
They was like, you know what, let's just take the
lesser of the two eagles. Let's try and run.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
The worst thing that can happen, hopefully, is that we
you know, we don't give up six or seven we
you know, we give.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Up to and they give up to and they give
up to Like that offensive line, he getting hit in
the backfield, he was stopping his feet. I'm like, da,
it's just not not good.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, dude, and Dallas get the ball back. They just
going They just trying to burn up clock right now.
They ain't trying to strike up too many points on him.
They end up punting the ball four minutes left back
to him. Game, you know, game basically overweight yep. So
it ends up, it ends up with the thirty three
to sixteen.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Dallas. They did what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
The like, come on, man, yeah, you were at number
three ranked offense. You're going up against the Raiders defense
that was tied for seventeen. Really, that's eighteen to me,
and you're going against an offense that well offense is thirty.
They defense was thirties, but they also added they added
some things to their defense before the trade deadline. It
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actually paid off, you know right there, Big Quinn Williams. Yeah, dude,
I don't know, dude. I would say Raiders old line
bro terrible. They can't stop water from getting out of
well Bro.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And there's no way there's nothing you can get going
if that's what's going on.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
If you can't, like, if you can't.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Renegotiate to restart the line of scrimmers, you're not getting
any push in the run game and in the past
game you just getting beat and your quarterback can't get
to his drop and plan and make any reads. There's
no success that's gonna happen there. So, I mean, the
the Raiders don't look too good on They don't look
good at all on offense, with the offensive line, their defense.
They got Max Crosby and I love him. He's gonna
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go out there, he's going to ball. I feel like Max,
you know what I'm saying. He's out there hooping. But
you can do only so much, right, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
And then when.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Football baby is ten of the cats out here, they
got to do their job.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Everybody's getting paid. Question, no question.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
With the Cowboys, that was that was what they were
supposed to do, right, that's.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
What they're supposed to do. Now they want to holler
about weeding boys. No, no, no, we got y'all. Just play. Y'all,
just play the d Boys.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
They said they o four and one versus winning teams
and four and oh versus losing teams. So when you
go play a losing team, you're gonna win. When you
go play a winning team, you're gonna lose. So, I mean, Dallas,
I hope that they can go win this one. But
when they go play I just got to see them
do it versus better teams. They was like Dak the
strip fumble CD he had CD for a touchdown wide
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opening the end zone. That he just let them. You
know what, I'm saying I could have been another one.
So they got plays that they leave out on the field.
But when they play against a better team, that's when
I'm being able to judge them versus the competition.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, yeah, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I'm a self admitted Dallas headed, but I gotta give
him a little bit of proper.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
You know, he still you still gotta go out there
and do it.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
You gotta did when we went to Cincinnati and didn't
do it. You see what I'm saying. Dak went on here,
he threw four touchdowns, bro Like, he almost had one
hundred and forty quarterback graating bro Yes, Piggas went on
head got nine for one forty four with a touddy
lamb added what was it? Sixty five with another touchdown,
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and hell, the running back almost had one hundred. They
think he had like ninety five, ninety three something like that. Yep, yep, yep,
your boy, I can't get his.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Name, lunky. Hell, he was averaging twelve yards catch.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
You know, the defense did better. You know, defense did better.
But again again, you you sat Geno four times. I
think a lot of people didn.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Shut sack Genal.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You know, a few times, twenty seven yards rushing the
sick though.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Some yards rushing the twice of y'ars.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
One thirty eight receiving you know, pull off them sack yards.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Its only a total of two thirty six. I ain't
gonna lie. That's good for a whole game, yep, but
it is racist.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
We will see when they play abody good.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Hey, hey, listen, listen, listen them boars. You got nicked.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I don't even know. Oh, they got the Eagles next,
that's gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Hey, they got line is a couple of weeks through
after that.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Lie is mad, upset, gotta be okay, they ain't.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, they've been going through some trouble. Trouble last week.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
They got the chiefs too in between that, you know,
tough schedule. Yeah, I think they got the charges on
there too.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Bro Hey, what you think about what Dad was talking about?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
But I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I don't understand what he's talking about. I don't, I don't.
I don't know what he's saying. Like like he's like,
I hear what he's saying, I just don't know what
he's trying to say it or relate it to, like
what he like, I don't know, So.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
You're trying to tell him not to stay there or
to go No, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I know, I think no. I think he's trying to
tell him to stay there. I think he's trying to
tell him to stay there. I think he's trying to
tell him. So we said, I want I want to
understand wherever it's whenever it's time to negotiate your contract,
your legacy.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Your legacy will be worth more than.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Being the highest paid wide receiver if you stayed with
the Cowboys. So I'm thinking that he's saying that once
you've become a free agent, you know what I'm saying,
you're gonna be able to what's the difference between I hopefully, hopefully.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
This is what I think he's saying. What's the difference.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Between making thirty three in Dallas with a good quarterback
where you know you're going to get the ball, you
have a great situation, to thirty five and let's say Miami.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
So is that okay, okay, I unders that too per
year where it's like the guaranteed it's still around ninety
a year in both spots. Is that number really like,
that's not going to change your lifestyle. And then if
you're there, when you have a good quarterback, where you
have this camaraderie, where you feel comfortable, you feel good,
where you like this is where you're building your roots,
that's gonna make another deal.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
It's gonna be easier to get.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
That because you know your quarterback, you like your situation,
than to go somewhere else for extra two million bucks
not not like too many.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
You know you want to go get your bag.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I know he's not saying, like, no, they're offering you
forty two and they're offering you thirty.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
No, let's go. No, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
But I'm still saying, yeah, okay, it's two million a year,
that could be a total eight Yeah, okay, maybe you
stay there whatever blah blah blah blah. But when you
go anywhere where it may be a four to six
million dollars. Yes, I got to go. I don't care
what you're talking about. Yes, Like, did you just want
(20:54):
to see Dallas do good? Because you play there, you're
offen just as I want to see Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Because I'm a fan.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Now, yeah, but like come on, you you gotta go
get your bag.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
That's the number one and first thing, especially now George Pickens,
he's coming off a rookie contract. He doesn't have a deal,
he doesn't have ms in the bank. He wasn't making
thirty million dollars per season. But when I'm saying, like me,
I think we're saying the same thing. We're not saying,
don't six four million dollar differences and all that when
you go get your original bag. If it's Dallas at
(21:29):
thirty three with ninety guaranteed and you got Miami at
ninety three guaranteed, I would stay in Dallas for that extract,
because that's that's nothing that's done when you're looking at Dallas,
no state income tract.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
So no, no, I've got you got a lot, You
got a lot of things with that nature.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
But I'm just thinking if he's saying, it's not always
the grass isn't always greener on the other side, and
if it's not for us like significance when we're talking
about real ms here that you're gonna be able to
put away in your pocket, stay there where you can
be able to continue to perform. Aj Brown is not
as happy Tyreek Hill going leaving Kansas City. He would
(22:07):
like that thirty with Patrick Mahomes more. Thing, you're not
feeling as much happy when you're getting that thirty with two,
you know what I'm saying, So just being able to
know like happening to Miles Garrett. You went and resigned
again for forty. Any other team would give you forty.
You don't have to go take the money, but when
you do go do it for a little bit more
to bag. No, you're in a situation that you're in
where you could be in a good team, good situation,
maybe a little bit less, maybe not the highest paid,
(22:29):
but that's not going to change your lifestyle. That's like
the way you what you can go get it could
change your lifestyle and winning and being able to be happy,
going to work in a good place and being good.
Oh yeah, man, what's the extually uxtra five hundred thousand
extra a million. You're gonna be looking crazy sitting you
know what I'm saying, pissed off. So I'm with the
thousand percent. Go get your bag, the biggest bag you can.
(22:50):
But then it's like if it's like Pennycatch at the
end when you got all the contracts in front of you.
You looking at him like, m Okay, okay, it's really not.
At the end of the day, I'm making thirty three
million dollars a year. Here chilling, feeling good. You know
what I'm saying, Like that, Then that's kind of what
I'm hoping he's saying instead of like, no, if it's
twelve million dollars different, you better know, go get your cheese, right,
(23:10):
that's money, you know, six million for your children.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Liquid money.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
No, you know what I'm saying A couple little here, like, no,
I'm gonna be able to make that on the back end,
you know what I'm saying, Like so, I hope that's
kind of and I think that's kind of what he's saying,
because that's that's what I would say.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Okay, yeah, I got you. Now, I'm good with that.
I'm good with that. Now look here, man, let's let's
talk about let's talk about your team. Man, So your
boys do it. He expected to get his first start Sunday. Yes,
we're dealing on the side.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
You know this go be the forty second quarterback that
the Brown's don had as a starter since since nineteen
ninety nine. Man, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
That's a lot of quarterbacks, like how many head coaches
like a lot a.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Lot of game coaches through right, a lot of head coach.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Let's speak of the head coaches. Man, Hey the boy.
Stefanski was asked if he would change anything about how
he divided up reps for the quarterback and what he
had to say.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Would you have changed anything about the approach about how
you maybe divided up the first team reps from training
camp to now? Yeah, I understand the question, Cam.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
I think it's important that you do what you think
is right for a football team. The development of our
players is constant. It doesn't happen just in one drill
or in one practice or one meeting. So we trust
our guys, We trust our backup players to be ready
to go. And Shoudor is ready to go. Obviously, I
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know he wants to play better. I want to coach better,
all those type of things. But that just comes. That'll
come through work. That's where it will come.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Okay, Joe, Joe, So listen. That mean let me let me,
let me, let me let me talk about this. Okay,
please talk about this.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Kevin.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Obviously you didn't understand the question because you didn't answer it.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Okay. Now, that's one of.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
The most genearic, you know type responses that you can get.
And I don't know, Kevin, are you uncomfortable with the
truthful answer because it.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
May make you look bad maybe?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Or I don't know, you could be hiding something because
I know you didn't misunderstand the question yourself.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Said, I understand the question. Quiet.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
He is up there talking like he running for office,
like he's a politician.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Cleveland, y'all done had a politician, not a head coach.
Bear that was y'all unhired man.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
This man can't even stand on his own decision or
admit that he was wrong or even possibly in hindsight,
I could have did something different that.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
May have helped my team. So, like, I want to know,
if you knew.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
That Dylan is not going to play now and he's
not going to be the backup, would you give or
are you going to give the backup any reps at
the one that would be backing up to your door.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I don't know what you think, y'all debo.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I'm I'm I'm with you with when Kevin can't answer
a question like stand on something, stand on anything, you
know what I'm saying like like, if you don't believe
like to answer it, do you think you would have
switched it up?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
No, I would have did.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Exactly what I'm doing right now, because that's the way
my processes. I would have gave dealing all of the
reps because he's a young quarterback and I think he's
if it were to split any reps, he needs to
get every rep so he's ready for the game. Say
that or say no, I don't think your door was ready.
He's not going to be the second string quarterback. And
I mean what say anything, Say something that makes us mad,
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say something that makes us He's just trying to give
us political answer, Like, well, he's like he's got to
combine us.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
You can't give a political answer. Man, You're not a politician.
You a head coach that don't win or lose. You
what are lit with me? You're with me? You're with me.
We're saying the same thing.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
He's talking like he's like he like he can't stand
on something Like he's like he's scared to like say
if he did something wrong or admit to why he's
making this decision. Stand on while you're doing things, sir,
say you wanted theydn't have all of the reps because
he was our first string quarterback. He's a rookie and
I just wanted him to get every I wanted him
to get all of them. So he's ready. He's premially
ready for the game. Say that like or you don't?
Speaker 1 (28:16):
We can please say that? Can you? Can you please
say that anything?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Because then I then I then we then like, okay, perfect,
Then somebody can nobody say I don't agree, but I
see what watch why you do that?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
But if you don't say nothing, then then hold on
what I asked the question.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
And I don't know where he stands.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
So that's the only part that gets me off, Like
say something, stand on it. And then now we can
now at least we can understand where you're coming from.
I don't even know where you're coming from.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Mmm, joe y'all got some problems over there and in Cleveland.
Now here's some disturbing information. All right, doors don't got
broken into during the game. That's crazy, man. M hm again.
(29:09):
Now you know me, I gotta get a little sum started,
you know, I gotta I'm like a.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
I'm like an instigator. Of sorts.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I like to and I like to you know, I
like to keep being interesting, you know what I mean, Joe,
I like to keep things interesting. So this is like
something that I what's the thing where you like say
something that that could be true, could not be true,
but it's true or ain't true, find out later it
could be true.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
You know what that what they call that? What they
call that? What they call that? What that is? Hypothetical? No, no, no, no,
conspiracy a conspiracy theory, okay, Okay, So this is just
I'm not saying this is true.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Okay, I'm just I'm just spitballing, okay, because you know
that's you know, this is my conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Okay. So this is what I thought happened or conspiracy
or what I think could that.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
So halftime came and he knew that Dylan was out right,
and when he found that out, Kevin probably got a
call from or Dylan might have called his agent said
I'm out and Kevin, oh my goodness, they got the
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same agent anyway, So I think that it was conspiracy
to make sure that Shador had a little bit more
pressure on him. So it's just I'm just spitball I'm
not saying this happened. I'm just talking. This is a story.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
People, listen, start.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I'm not saying this happened. Okay, I'm just talking.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I think the agent, since they both have the same agent,
Dylan and Kevin Stefanski, I think they went and broke
to the man's house, had somebody do devo.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
See there you go.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Listen, I'm just talking talking about somebody breaking it to
my man's house.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I'm just talking, Dylan. No, listen, I'm just spitballing. I'm
not saying this happen. I'm just talking. I'm telling the story.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
This is I'm not here.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I'm not here for this, man, I'm not here for
this conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I think and I think it was in my story.
I'm just spitballing here, man, listen, listen to me.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Man.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
And I'm thinking they was hoping that it got to
him before he went back out there or sometime during
the game's rallying a little more.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
No, I'm just giving what you think. I know for
I pray now, I pray now. You know my madhouse
got hit up.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Debo.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
We gotta you know, let's just hope that everything is
okay because that's that's just messed up your the privacy
in your own home. People breaking into your house. I
don't want to make a joke about people breaking it.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I'm making joke about people making a joke that.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
That that that Dylan Gabriel and coaching casket ain't.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I'm not making the joke. I'm just telling you what.
I'm just giving a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Debo, debo. I think better than you. You are, come on, debo,
you better than that. You better than that, you better
than that.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
You don't believe that, you don't believe that conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
I'm writing a story, a fictional story. Joe, Okay, I'm
just sad. Man. That's just bad that I'm all that
you are.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
They are breaking them a Mansha door's house man, That's
just that's bad business.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
That's bad business. I hope that people are called.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Hope they get caught. I hope they get caught. They
get is true, they ain't gonna get caught.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
I'm just saying, if you're serious, is true, they're gonna
be on the expense.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
There is through true.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
They're in the locker room, my dog right now. I'm
just saying saying, listen, man, a man can't tell the truth.
Saved his life.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So even if it was true, which I know it
ain't true, I'm just you know, I'm just getting trashed,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I just like that. I like to get it out
there sometimes. You know what I'm saying. I feel you.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
I feel you like to stir some stuff up sometimes.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Like speaking of stirring it up, man, they got they
got Jamorrow Chase for one game final on five hundred K.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yeah, listen to this though, listen to this.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
According to Ian Rapperport, Jamar Chase plans to appeal the
one game suspension, claiming that if he was going to
spit on Jalen Ramsey, he would have spit in his
face and not his jersey or ground what you go
(33:56):
back it up with. I meant to spin, just not
in his face, on his jersey or you didn't. You
was just spitting within three inches of somebody, Jaylen. He
said he would have spitt in your Nah. Don't let
me gash Jaylor. I ain't gas. I ain't gonna gas.
(34:19):
I ain't go through that to you.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Look so you can't back that up with that.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
You can't you can't go in and try and like,
what are you appealing?
Speaker 5 (34:31):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
It's there, You're done. You didn't already lie. First you
said you didn't even do it. Now you're saying you
did spit. You just didn't mean to spit on him.
And if you were actually trying to spit on him,
you would.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Have spit in his face. If you had spitting his face,
he'd be still on top of you.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Bro, right now, right now, Debo.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
He says this, Bro, because I mean, you know how
when you when you get a fine like people I
was ap pilling stuff that you know you did wrong.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
So you're trying to see if you just trying to
see if you get some money.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
To see if you give me something, give me something,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Like, you know you did it wrong. You know what
for you a pilling that they need to give you
some motive.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
They might have to give you some more because blatantly
saying that, like and then then to go in when
he spit on the debo to not move and not
react and then act like he didn't know you know exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
If I'm there and I didn't mean to spit on you,
and you I'm not spitting no way.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Listen here. Man. The first thing.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
That happens when you were a kid, that first time
you spit, you get popped in the mouth like that.
Don't you never spit? My mama popped me in my mouth,
dude when I spit. Dude, she said, don't you never spit.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I didn't know. She meant, don't spit on somebody, So
I never do. I didn't.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
You just wouldn't spit.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I didn't. I listen, I did spit. Listen, brouh.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I'm at a football game high school and I'm standing
next to my home and my homeboy spit on the ground.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Joe, I grab myself. Ooh, don't do that. I'm gonna
come pop you in the mouth. I said my mama, Oh,
don't do that. My mama gonna come pop you in
the mouth.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
No, bro, No, but seriously, listen, you cannot even spit
on the ground, dude. In Singapore, it's a thousand dollars
for one spit. If you do it again, it keeps doubling.
You do three spits, man, you about fifteen thousand dollars
in man, like just spitting on the ground and President
(36:37):
bro like, you cannot spit on anyone. Dude, that's the
most disrespectful thing in the world you could ever do
in life. Brou The NFL got to make an example
of this, dude. Like, with this being the third what's
going Like, what's gonna happen the next time?
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
We're talking about the integrity of the NFL protecting the
shield and this reputation. What are you doing here? What
what signal are you sending out? Hey, spit on somebody? Well,
get your game, don't worry about it.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Yeah, no, that's it's it's it's wild man.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
And then when you react to being spit you get
kicked out the game.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
What I should just be spit on and stand there
and take it?
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
The punches they worried about, more of a punches thrown
that people getting spin on.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
We gotta switch that. Yeah, Like I.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Don't I don't understand the thought processing him answering or
responding to this.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
That is that is true? Bro, Bro, It's true. It's true.
He basically saying I would have spinned in his face.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
So how you're gonna he's gonna lift his head, Jamar,
You're trying to get away with it, like you spit
and didn't even move, and you basically felt like you
got away with it until four K was out there
in a thousand cameras.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
So you said I would have split on his face. No,
you wouldn't have trying to.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Get away with it someone you try to lift your
head up so you can get that guts bit boom
right into him. No, you're trying to be undercover and
slide and spit on somebody to get away with it.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
You're not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Not even close to it, bro not even close to it.
That was wild, yo.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
The Giants they benched Carter for sleeping during the walkthrough,
but he said he was not sleeping. He said he
was actually doing recovery. Nevertheless, it was on me, So
I ain't got no problem him saying because he actually
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took accountability. He just like, Yo, you said I was
sleeping during a walk through, Like who in the world
does that?
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Like that?
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yes, I should have been there, boom boom boom, But
you ain't gonna sit here and make it seem like
I was just, Oh, I'm just sleeping. I'll get to
the walk through whenever I get time. Like that's crazy,
Like they just they're just trying to stir up some stuff.
You know, I don't listen. I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Man. I used to sleep. I used to sleep in
the meetings.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
You know what I'm saying, de ball, I'm not gonna
be the one to sit here and lie my my my,
I mean not not.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
When I started getting my rookie year, it was.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
It was bad.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I was getting fine. My man, A wake me up,
because I was I was outside you was you was
drafted my rookie year.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
I wasn't sleeping the meetings, bro. I used to stand
up in the back.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
I used to take my clothes off and jog in
place that man I got after I got after I
got to me, man, I'd sit up there. I ain't
gonnaven lie to you, man and coach the boat. He'd uh,
he'd be, he'd be up there. I'll be sitting in
the front. He'd be up there, you know, going through
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his stuff.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
I'd be heavy, and I'll go to sleep.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
And only time he would ever attack me is when
I would get a snore out.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
He gets oh yeah, deep wow, bruh yo.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
You you were dreaming in the meetings.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
You weren't just like a little you know.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
It wasn't all the time it was you know, it's
like it was like once, you know, once once every
other week. You got to realize, Man, I get home.
You know, we get home from a Sunday game. If
we get home at three four o'clock, I go straight.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
To the gym. Damn you up? Okay you then I
go home. I started getting treatment and therapy.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Dude, I may not sleep until Tuesday night, and I'm
getting up at like three four to go in, so
I may get three four hours of sleep to go in.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
So I get you know what I'm saying. So that's wild.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
You taking care of your body, getting working, getting working. Iyeh,
sleep and being tired because I was out too late,
That's that was that.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
That's yeah. I would out my rookie year with that.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
That's that's I'm not I'm not proud of it, but
we're here to be honest about what was going on.
So then might couple of just standing up too late,
like and that's why I was only in the beginning
after that.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
For me, the reason I had to be in the back,
standing up, jumping around is I was on special teams.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
But I'm hanging out with my old j's who in
the front with the feet kicked up. I'm back here
running the place, you know, trying to stay I can't.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Yes, you know what, after that broke, I'm telling you
some people after that second come, after that first deal,
after that first deal, yeah, I could be closed a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Right right.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
A standing you know what I'm saying. I couldn't close, dude,
I couldn't close my eyes. So it was my what one?
My third deal? Yeah, I realized, Joe, I ain't start
until five years in almost six only started. Hell, I
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only started with Pittsburgh from two thousand having to twelve
because I went there what's.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
The name in thirteen? That's crazy. It came back fourteen
to seventeen. That's crazy. De bro.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, like there half of my time with special teams, bro,
half of what's starting.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Well, I ain't gonna lie to you. Man.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
You didn't you did that because you win and got
all the Pro Bowls and Defensive Player of the Year.
Like people don't just walk around with Defensivelayer of the Year.
You know what I'm saying, like this this is.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
True, saying, yeah, I found that out. I found that
out though I ain't gonna lie to you, it ain't.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I really don't think it'll ever be another player that
will be Defensive Player of the Year that'll be undrafted
because the chances of a guy making.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
It now, I was an undrafted player, they're not gonna
they're not gonna miss out on that.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
It's so slim now, dude, Like you don't you don't
have the time to actually, you know, get the reps
that you need.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
You don't have many preseason games to show yourself anymore.
It's only what three now, So you know that that
opportunity now, dude is slim.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Gotta you gotta flash just to make it right, just
to make it, you know.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
And for me, I would have never got an opportunity
to start if PS hadn't spit on William b Yep, yep, yep,
because they would have.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Never gave me. Yeah, they never gave that.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
To actually get out there. And it was like, oh,
they had a guy that they had drafted ahead of me,
and he he wasn't he wasn't better than me, but
they drafted him ahead, so they were playing him anytime.
They knew that one of the starters would be out,
he would dress, he played no special teams, started on nothing.
I did all the special teams and all that, and
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ps happened to get kicked out right before the game.
They didn't know what was gonna happen, so he wasn't dressed.
I'm there and they like, yo, you gotta go.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
I'm like, all right, cool, yeah for sure, Yeah, yeah,
that's perfect man.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
You ready for that? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (44:11):
No question, no question. I think I think I might
have got my first SECT in that game. First start
two thousand what was that twenty eleven? No, sorry, two
thousand and four, that was No, it might have been five,
(44:31):
I can't remember. Four or five, five or six, something
like that. That was my first first time I ever
gotta ever gotta start. But I came into two thousand
and two, like my first start ever was like almost
three years later.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
No, for sure, you know so damn that's good shit though, debo.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yeah for sure. We go go over here to what
was it Buffalo?
Speaker 2 (44:55):
I think we got oh man, he was They said
he was dancing before the game. I guess against the
bu He was benched by the team for being late
to practice on Friday.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
We got the video right, he was crazy would killing
He was getting it too though. Listen, I got hear
that what there was they playing that? I think that's
I think I know the song that d he was.
What's it called?
Speaker 1 (45:23):
I Bet you won't. I bet you won't. I bet
you won't. I bet you won't. Hey, that might be it?
That was that? That might be.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
Yeah, that song will make you get the going.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Instantly, like, yeah, that might be.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
It might be bro, that might be you know, Hawkins
had had had a message for him though.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
We got the sound show it up, pop it or
when the guys to come on?
Speaker 7 (45:49):
And Kean knows right now he's in the hot seat
and he needs to come on and show up for
us pats on the back or over with and it's
time for him to grow up. And he knows it.
And uh, as a older player on the team, we
hold everybody accountable and uh, we shoot straight, we don't
sugarcoat it, and the words and we're said to him
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and he took it.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Well.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
What do you think of him dancing before the game,
And what do you think of Hawkins's message towing?
Speaker 4 (46:21):
I like I like the message from og because I
like him.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
I like him a lot.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
He's very respectful, and he does you in the least
by example. The one thing I'll say is it's more
that it's not about the dancing. I don't want to
take away. I want him the kid to sit there
and be sad and act like all.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
No, I don't need him taking the rest of the
team down because.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
There being pissed off.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Yes, the thing is I love about what he said
was he's not talking about the dancing part.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
I need you to be if you that's you be.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
You don't be walking around here looking crazy because you
messed up. We're talking about you missing practice, being late
to practice.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
We need you. You're a key player. You can't be
doing that. The coaches sat you down because you would
lay for practice.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
And you know what I'm saying, like, that's the thing.
We need you to be way more present. So I
think he's telling him as a leader, we need you,
we need you to be here. You can't be doing that,
and uh, just that's just not gonna work. I'm not
worried about him dancing, because that's just a happy person.
That's his personality that he brings to the team when
they're good. So I know his teammates was around him
getting it too. That's just a vibe guy. You gotta dudes,
is just you're just happy to be around. And I
(47:22):
wouldn't want Keyan to be a dude that's like man
just sulking because he's not playing or your bad vibes.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Keep your vibes up. But at the same time, don't
miss meetings. We need you.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
So I love the way that they went about it.
I don't want him to not be dancing like that's
just you. But same time, I need you to be
a practice on Friday.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Yeah, yeah, it don't matter, dude.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
If he did it the other way, they'd be like, oh,
he out there sulking because he didn't get to play.
He ain't not he ain't doing nothing to motivate his teammates.
He should be out there being a team guy and
all the other stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
But now he danced, Oh he danced. He don't even care.
He ain't playing. He's too happy. He too happy.
Speaker 6 (48:01):
Win.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
You can't win with these bombs nowadays, Like you ain't
played the game, you ain't did it. You don't understand
what people out there going.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Through, what they need to do with what energy. You
should really come with up like, come on, man, they
already gave him. The lineman said the message.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
It ain't even harsh, dude. That's Og talking to him,
and that's him accepting it and being like, yes, you're right,
I understand.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
But with og Il respect to because Og going love
up on him too. He's not just telling them nothing crazy,
and he's not talking to you when you're not doing
something that that's affecting your game and that's affecting the team.
He's really trying to help you grow as a player,
and that's what good bets do.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
He's not just doing nothing crazy.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Then he's telling them, he's like, no, like we let
him know, like we need you, this what we approve,
what we expect.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
So it's not a bashing. It's not like go out there.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
It's not it's not even close to a bashing.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
No, Like, that's me going ahead and saying what I
need to say, and it being in a respectful manner
a leader, you know.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Staying needs to be said. And I'm not attacking him.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
I'm stating what's the obvious is, which he has already said, Yes, yo,
we need you, like I don't due they just you
want to get something started.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
That's all. I'm not mad at that at all. I
just need him to be there. And I love the
way O G did it.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Oh, no question about it. You can't you can't. You
can't come no better than that man, especially and how
he you know, how he took it, how he took
in his stride and he's like, yo, I understand, you
know it ain't gonna happen no more.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Yo. Over in Atlanta, Michael.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
He panis he he has this, dude, he done did
a lot of lot of c and all this other stuff,
like college was crazy, like he do. He tore he
He suffered a partially tour in a CEO, this time
during Sunday's game to the Panthers. Like I guess he's
seeking the second opinion, but they're saying that it's not encouraging.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
This will be his fifth season ending surgery in.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Eight college and pro seasons, Dude, three ACLS twenty eighteen,
twenty twenty, and this partial right now in twenty five, Dug.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
That sucks for him.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
They worried about they worried about them paying him, you know,
one hundred and eighty million to avoid an issue, and
now they're like they're in an issue.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
You paid that upfront just so that you didn't have
to pay more if things went better than what y'all
thought it was.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Go go.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Yeah, man, I mean this, I just feel bad for him.
I feel sorry for him. You know, football is football.
It's one hundred percent people gonna get hurt. It's going
to be injuries and then wear and tearing your body.
He was in college for a long time and then
just continuous injuries and it keeps happening and we're not
getting no younger.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
You know, he had a sternal convicular uh uh blow,
that's what James had. Like, that's your that's right here, dude,
that's not your AC Dude, that I know what that is.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Dude. That's eight months mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
That's a long process, bro. So you know, man, I
just the the injuries for him. I just feel bad
for him. But you know, it's the NFL, man, and
then you just continuously getting hurt. I just pray for
that he gets recovered. And with the Falcons, I mean
that's just that's just that's unfortunate. You drafted quarterbacks, you
draft them a little bit of order. Drafted him a
(51:42):
little bit earlier than then some people expected, you know
what I'm saying coming off of he had a lot
of injuries in college.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
So you know, it is what it is. That's part
of that, that's part of business.
Speaker 5 (51:54):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
Some things go go, they waste, some things go our way.
But at the same time, he's still got to deal
with it physically.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
Yeah, I just pray for him, you know that. Mentally
that's just tough. Just you know, like you said, your
son gets hurt, You've had surgeries.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
I've had surgeries.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
Just continuous rehab and thinking you're back to a position.
And then but when you're getting older, you trying to
play at the highest level, I think that could be
a lot a lot tougher, you know what I'm saying,
Like you trying to get back.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Especially you know that's it's not it's not just playing
the game anymore. It's like your your career is your life. Yeah,
but you know, and an eighty of help, you feel help.
I'm gonna pray for him all all day though.
Speaker 4 (52:34):
Did he do you say, did he get I don't
think he got.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
One hundred and eighty.
Speaker 4 (52:39):
Dude, because he's on the rookie's on his rookie deal, right.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
They paid a different quarterback one hundred and eighty.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
Oh I think it might have been Uh was it
Kirk Cousins. Yeah, yeah, they paid Kirk Cousins one eighty.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
Yeah, they paid a different quarterback one hundred and eighty.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
And now he doesne did this.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
So that's why they saying the Falcon's looking is done.
Got a quarterback in the top pick. He hurt and
then Kirk Cousins ain't really panned out with the one eighty.
Speaker 5 (53:11):
He ain't gonna what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (53:14):
He ain't.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
He ain't panned out with the one eighty They pay.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
Them in Allder.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
Oh yeah, that's for sure. Kirk Cousins. He's sitting good.
I'm tripping.
Speaker 4 (53:25):
Kirk Cousin's been stinging him for a long time.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
Good man.
Speaker 3 (53:29):
I love Kirk Cousins and his agent, and they just
write where you need to be.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
I'm a staring quarterback.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
Good top is sixty, give me thirty, top is fifty something,
I do twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
He was just right there, just sting it is. Yes, Mmm,
they gotta go earn it. Got to.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
Know if you're gonna dude, Bro, Pennis was doing that. Now,
I ain't ain't gonna be able give him that, Pennis. No,
he ain't able to give them that, Pennis. No, no, no, no,
no no no.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
That's that's that's gonna be. That's gonna be hard to hold.
Speaker 4 (54:10):
Man prayers up for Penis though, But sure question.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
Look here, man, we want to thank y'all for joining us,
even though the same what it should be. I'm sinking
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Man, appreciate y'all joining me in debo every time you come.
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Speaker 1 (54:44):
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Speaker 3 (54:49):
How you doing today, Joe, let me tell yourself to devot,
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
What's up? Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host,
James Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co host Joe Hayden.
Please make sure your guys like and subscribe. You don't
want to miss nothing. Hey, look here, you got a
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camera itself in the laptop.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
So that's what that's what we got going on.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Joe Man, I Pete Man. The pre production show, we
was hot. We were trying to get it figured out,
you know what I'm saying, trying to which cameras we
got bad angles. But you know what, this is good, Debo.
I'm just from Afar. You look perfect.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Listen, Man, this might be something to do with X Man.
I'm have to call Jeff again. Man, got called bezos.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
See what he's doing. Man, I know you had something
to do it. That's the other one too. Elon is
exd Jeff. Well, both of them they probably working together
right now, trying to trying to jack a boy up.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
So they won't.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
They want to raise the price on something already got
a trillion dollars, Like, come on, man, you got enough
too much cheese, like what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Hey, look here, man, let's get this started.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Joe Coyle boys went out here and put their hands
on the Raiders. Yes, they put their hands on the Raiders.
Check it out though, Check it out though. George and
c d they benched them, man for the first couple
of series. Man, they said it was a coach's decision. Reportantly,
(01:45):
they violated some some team rules.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Look here, man, I'm gonna tell you what happened.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Now, you go get we go get it. We gonna
get it started. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gona tell
you what happened through the process. Now, okay, okay. Dallas
went on ahead, they got up out there right, Raiders
went in, forced the three and out right. They punt
the ball off, Raiders get the rock. They gone ahead.
They don't really do too much and nothing. Gino went
(02:11):
on ahead, hit hit. I think it was the tight
end for eighteen on the first play, and I think
they dropped Jenny for like a one or two yard
lost something like that. And then Gino almost got sacked.
He was able to shake it off, but they end
up punting and then the ball.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Get down inside the five yard line.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So Dallas come back out there, right, Okay, they get
they get one first down conversion and then that next
first down that boy Crosby ran up in there and said.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Sack fumble recovery. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, he was on Dak's head early, on Dak's head early.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
That's what.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
He's one of the only bright spots out there for
the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I'll say next.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, so I think the Raiders they get the ball,
you know inside like the ten fifteen something like that.
The first play they get sad and then old dude
could have had a touchdown but he missed. I think
it was Tucker he missed on the Geno. He missed
Turker on that third down. They get the field goal.
It's three nothing.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
You know what happened?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Jerry said, hey, uh uh uh uh, we ain't doing
this that coaching decisions. You like your job? Do you
like your job?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Do you want do you want?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Do you like him?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
CD and Pickings back out there right now with the
first thing they did. Hit Pickings for twelve, hit picking
for twelve.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Went on ahead and hit what was.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
That lunky lunky something like that. He went on struggled
through on the short path, took it for fifteen. They
calmed down, they gone ahead, slow him down. They ended
up selling it for three. Raders get back out there, man,
and uh, you know, I think he hit who was
(04:03):
the best for like fifteen.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
He hit the powers that's his name. Seventeen.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, I think he hit Thomas. I think this is
like their best drive they had bro No for sure.
The first quarter was was they was their best They did.
The offense did pretty good, they defense, they got a
couple of stops. Then like you said, they end up
getting down there. They got a field goal on this drive.
So yeah, Dallas. Once the second quarter started and Dallas
(04:32):
got the ball back, that's just when everything went downhill
for the Raiders. Honestly, like they had a little couple
bright spots. Like I said, Crosby balled out in the
first quarter, did the strap strip, force fumble, and they
still were able to get touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
They got a field goal.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Next thing, you know, when Dallas comes out there and
gets the rock, you know what.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
They do, no question. It seemed it seemed like a
little little pick and see d show.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
It was nineteen, then a fifteen, then it was I
think even the runner back had one for like ten
or something like that, right, yeah, for sure, and then
CD got the touchdown for about twenty, right something like that.
It's ten to three. It's starting to go downhill fast, yo.
They was, they was on. They was on Geno's neck
all night though. Oh the raidst offensive line was terrible.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
They was on.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
They was on Gent's neck. They was on Gino's neck.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, man, dude, Jenny could get nowhere. They get the
rock back. They got Gino out there running for his life. Jendy.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
He actually I think he might have had a nice
run that series. You know, I think he got about eleven.
I think the next play they dropped him. He dropped
the pass on the next play again, like Gino was
under pressure, you know, he gets sacked, and I think
that was when they showed Jerry and and uh that
(05:55):
was that was Williams Yead. Yes, yeah, he got he
got sacked and then your boy went on head and
uh did nothing. Really, he got no protection all night,
and they got to punt the rock like I don't
know what they expect him to do over there. Man,
you can't block to run, you can't you can't protect
(06:15):
to pass like what they expect him to do.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
It's all bad.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
The offensive line play, like you said, if they if
you're not blocking nobody, your quarterback not gonna be able
to find the receivers and your running backs not gonna
be able to get no yards.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Like the offensive line they're playing bad, and your center
keeps getting beat off the rip, your running backs getting
hit in the backfield. Your quarterback can't find receivers even
if they are open, so they need their line to
block better if they want to get anything going. I'm
not saying Gino's playing good or gentis.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Oh, I'm not saying it playing good. I'm not saying that.
But how can I evaluate it when I'm not giving
it ain't?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You know?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yes, he's getting an opportunity that was ended up getting
the rock back. You see e Rob put that thing
on that boy on that first on that first play though, right.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
They hitting out there, Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
He went on head the pickings again, dude, like they
like was having troubles tackling that boy.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Man, they were scared to tackle that boy. Bro I
don't know what was going on, but he catches the
ball to his intent is to score. He's not trying
to just question down. He's like this now, Oh he's
looking at you. He's like this, Oh, you don't want
none of this. Like I'm ready to stif on you.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I can juke you. I'm faster.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And then like when he caught that and spun out
of it, you know what I'm saying, And then running
He's running full spiece of the.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Pipeline, dead legs the safety and the corner. I'm like,
oh my god.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
And then the corner that was guarding them couldn't even catch.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Up to him.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I'm like, that is athleticism. And it's like I'm getting
the end zone. This isn't what like when you're playing
NFL people are supposed to be cutting back on people.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
He cast the ball at five, Bro, and then literally
pushed you another six yards for an eleven yard game,
Like that should have been five right there.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Tackle down, damn, that's it. That's it.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
He was doing big boy stuff out there.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Bro CD went overhead, jumped in and on third Donald
think he was like fourteen later it was lamb again.
I think he hit about twenty three and then the
fourth and one they went on ahead, got that, got
the whole touchdown, Say give me the whole five it's
seventeen to six.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Man, raiders. Get the ball back.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Nothing yeah, yeah, nothing, nothing, nothing but gone ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Get a tip pick, right.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Non going ahead, but a tip pick. Get the ball
back to the yeah where they.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Go score a game? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Oh man, but did you see that that that one
that that pickings. I won't I won't even want to
say he dropped, but we're done seen him catch those
like we don't see him make a play.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
They said, they said it was almost a pick. I'm like, no,
that was almost. I was almost away. Yeah that was again.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Those are those are the fifty fifties that I'm talking about.
Those are the ones that George He's going to make
that play. Yes, you sigure you expected him to catch
the joint it was they broke it up whatever, he wasn't.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Gonna pick it, but he almost made it, Yes, for sure, dude.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, thirty ten.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
They ended up getting the incompit, but it was a
PI so that that extended the drive. Then Williams they
running back he went on ahead, hit him for sixteen
on that next play, then they will was it They
got a false start and then shaking bait hit Pickings.
I think it was what thirty seven? Yeah, it was
(09:40):
a thirty seven yard touchdown, Like, come on, br twenty
four to six, scoring downhill fast, dude, Raiders, get out there,
and I was kind of surprised. They went on ahead
and put together a little drive. They got a field goal.
I mean with the help of I think they had
a holding penalty in and an off size and able
(10:03):
to get enough time to connect. I think it was
with the tight end for was it twenty five or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I think it was.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, was it twenty five, because yeah, all they got
was a field go out of it. It went into halftime.
It was like twenty four to nine. Yep, they come
out of halftime. Dallas went on here and stood up
for a high second. They forced it. They forced it
three and out.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Williams.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
He went on here, got at little bit of that
get back, just a little bit because the safety was
still able to tackle him, but he dropped them like
you know, you hit that boom boom straight down.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, he was able to hold onto that leg. I
don't know why I like seeing people get hitting. I
don't care because it's it's it's not often.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
It's not often. They're not going to throw a flag.
It's tough to get them good debo. And when you
get it good without a flag, it's good to see.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I know what you say, because I love it too.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, even though it was the safety getting ran well,
not getting ran over. That's the only reason why he
got a little get back, because if he had ran
him all the way over, he would have got all.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
That get back. Yeah, what I'm saying. And dude.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Like Pickens on that second, Like, dude, it was like
he was in he was in war zone and had
a cheek cold bro like that shouldn't have been no
more than what maybe six seven yards at the most.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
What he ended up getting like thirty or something. His
run after the catch is elite run catch his.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Elite crazy very next one lumpkin again about twelve pickings
right after that.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And that hit second what was that nineteen for a
two yard touchdown? What's his name? I can't remember name?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Remember when he ran a nice, nice little pivot route too.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, he shook you, dude, thought he was all the
way in.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
As soon as he saw he turned that head, he
cut that thing back out thirty one to nine.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
So I'm really i ain't gonna lite you. I'm kind
of thinking the game is over even though it ain't
even the fourth quarter yet. And somehow the Raiders come
out there, put together another dry and that fourth and
one that they can I shouldn't say they converted, I could.
I should say genty converted because he had no blocking whatsoever.
I thought he was just dead in the water. He
(12:35):
was able to convert that. And then it's it's you know,
it's sixteen or what thirty one. Then it's almost a
whole fourth quarter left, and then Dallas get the kickoff return.
They bring it all the way almost to midfield. I'm like, yeah,
it's for sure over with and the Raiders force are
(12:56):
three and now broo we yo.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And then dude, who was that Tucker? Why are you
even grabbing the ball right there?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Like you get tackled at what was it?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
The two acting up as you try and return it,
like you're.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Don't field the ball inside the ten?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
What are you doing after it bounced? You better hope
it just keep going that.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Way, bro let them, let them try to recover in
the way that these dudes be acting on special teams.
They gonna slide into the damn end zone, put their
foot on the ball like somehow, but you bring up,
you catch it yourself.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Let the ball un.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Then they get the ball back the first play they
false start.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
So it take them from the from the two to
the one.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And you know, they because they can't pass the ball,
because they can't block.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
They was like, you know what, let's just take the
lesser of the two eagles. Let's try and run.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
The worst thing that can happen, hopefully, is that we
you know, we don't give up six or seven we
you know, we give.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Up to and they give up to and they give
up to Like that offensive line, he getting hit in
the backfield, he was stopping his feet. I'm like, da,
it's just not not good.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, dude, and Dallas get the ball back. They just
going They just trying to burn up clock right now.
They ain't trying to strike up too many points on him.
They end up punting the ball four minutes left back
to him. Game, you know, game basically overweight yep. So
it ends up, it ends up with the thirty three
to sixteen.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Dallas. They did what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
The like, come on, man, yeah, you were at number
three ranked offense. You're going up against the Raiders defense
that was tied for seventeen. Really, that's eighteen to me,
and you're going against an offense that well offense is thirty.
They defense was thirties, but they also added they added
some things to their defense before the trade deadline. It
(14:57):
actually paid off, you know right there, Big Quinn Williams. Yeah, dude,
I don't know, dude. I would say Raiders old line
bro terrible. They can't stop water from getting out of
well Bro.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And there's no way there's nothing you can get going
if that's what's going on.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
If you can't, like, if you can't.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Renegotiate to restart the line of scrimmers, you're not getting
any push in the run game and in the past
game you just getting beat and your quarterback can't get
to his drop and plan and make any reads. There's
no success that's gonna happen there. So, I mean, the
the Raiders don't look too good on They don't look
good at all on offense, with the offensive line, their defense.
They got Max Crosby and I love him. He's gonna
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go out there, he's going to ball. I feel like Max,
you know what I'm saying. He's out there hooping. But
you can do only so much, right, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
And then when.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Football baby is ten of the cats out here, they
got to do their job.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Everybody's getting paid. Question, no question.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
With the Cowboys, that was that was what they were
supposed to do, right, that's.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
What they're supposed to do. Now they want to holler
about weeding boys. No, no, no, we got y'all. Just play. Y'all,
just play the d Boys.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
They said they o four and one versus winning teams
and four and oh versus losing teams. So when you
go play a losing team, you're gonna win. When you
go play a winning team, you're gonna lose. So, I mean, Dallas,
I hope that they can go win this one. But
when they go play I just got to see them
do it versus better teams. They was like Dak the
strip fumble CD he had CD for a touchdown wide
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opening the end zone. That he just let them. You
know what, I'm saying I could have been another one.
So they got plays that they leave out on the field.
But when they play against a better team, that's when
I'm being able to judge them versus the competition.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, yeah, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I'm a self admitted Dallas headed, but I gotta give
him a little bit of proper.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
You know, he still you still gotta go out there
and do it.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
You gotta did when we went to Cincinnati and didn't
do it. You see what I'm saying. Dak went on here,
he threw four touchdowns, bro Like, he almost had one
hundred and forty quarterback graating bro Yes, Piggas went on
head got nine for one forty four with a touddy
lamb added what was it? Sixty five with another touchdown,
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and hell, the running back almost had one hundred. They
think he had like ninety five, ninety three something like that. Yep, yep, yep,
your boy, I can't get his.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Name, lunky. Hell, he was averaging twelve yards catch.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
You know, the defense did better. You know, defense did better.
But again again, you you sat Geno four times. I
think a lot of people didn.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Shut sack Genal.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You know, a few times, twenty seven yards rushing the
sick though.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Some yards rushing the twice of y'ars.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
One thirty eight receiving you know, pull off them sack yards.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Its only a total of two thirty six. I ain't
gonna lie. That's good for a whole game, yep, but
it is racist.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
We will see when they play abody good.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Hey, hey, listen, listen, listen them boars. You got nicked.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I don't even know. Oh, they got the Eagles next,
that's gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Hey, they got line is a couple of weeks through
after that.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Lie is mad, upset, gotta be okay, they ain't.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, they've been going through some trouble. Trouble last week.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
They got the chiefs too in between that, you know,
tough schedule. Yeah, I think they got the charges on
there too.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Bro Hey, what you think about what Dad was talking about?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
But I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I don't understand what he's talking about. I don't, I don't.
I don't know what he's saying. Like like he's like,
I hear what he's saying, I just don't know what
he's trying to say it or relate it to, like
what he like, I don't know, So.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
You're trying to tell him not to stay there or
to go No, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I know, I think no. I think he's trying to
tell him to stay there. I think he's trying to
tell him to stay there. I think he's trying to
tell him. So we said, I want I want to
understand wherever it's whenever it's time to negotiate your contract,
your legacy.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Your legacy will be worth more than.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Being the highest paid wide receiver if you stayed with
the Cowboys. So I'm thinking that he's saying that once
you've become a free agent, you know what I'm saying,
you're gonna be able to what's the difference between I hopefully, hopefully.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
This is what I think he's saying. What's the difference.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Between making thirty three in Dallas with a good quarterback
where you know you're going to get the ball, you
have a great situation, to thirty five and let's say Miami.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
So is that okay, okay, I unders that too per
year where it's like the guaranteed it's still around ninety
a year in both spots. Is that number really like,
that's not going to change your lifestyle. And then if
you're there, when you have a good quarterback, where you
have this camaraderie, where you feel comfortable, you feel good,
where you like this is where you're building your roots,
that's gonna make another deal.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
It's gonna be easier to get.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
That because you know your quarterback, you like your situation,
than to go somewhere else for extra two million bucks
not not like too many.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
You know you want to go get your bag.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I know he's not saying, like, no, they're offering you
forty two and they're offering you thirty.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
No, let's go. No, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
But I'm still saying, yeah, okay, it's two million a year,
that could be a total eight Yeah, okay, maybe you
stay there whatever blah blah blah blah. But when you
go anywhere where it may be a four to six
million dollars. Yes, I got to go. I don't care
what you're talking about. Yes, Like, did you just want
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to see Dallas do good? Because you play there, you're
offen just as I want to see Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Because I'm a fan.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Now, yeah, but like come on, you you gotta go
get your bag.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
That's the number one and first thing, especially now George Pickens,
he's coming off a rookie contract. He doesn't have a deal,
he doesn't have ms in the bank. He wasn't making
thirty million dollars per season. But when I'm saying, like me,
I think we're saying the same thing. We're not saying,
don't six four million dollar differences and all that when
you go get your original bag. If it's Dallas at
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thirty three with ninety guaranteed and you got Miami at
ninety three guaranteed, I would stay in Dallas for that extract,
because that's that's nothing that's done when you're looking at Dallas,
no state income tract.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
So no, no, I've got you got a lot, You
got a lot of things with that nature.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
But I'm just thinking if he's saying, it's not always
the grass isn't always greener on the other side, and
if it's not for us like significance when we're talking
about real ms here that you're gonna be able to
put away in your pocket, stay there where you can
be able to continue to perform. Aj Brown is not
as happy Tyreek Hill going leaving Kansas City. He would
(22:07):
like that thirty with Patrick Mahomes more. Thing, you're not
feeling as much happy when you're getting that thirty with two,
you know what I'm saying, So just being able to
know like happening to Miles Garrett. You went and resigned
again for forty. Any other team would give you forty.
You don't have to go take the money, but when
you do go do it for a little bit more
to bag. No, you're in a situation that you're in
where you could be in a good team, good situation,
maybe a little bit less, maybe not the highest paid,
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but that's not going to change your lifestyle. That's like
the way you what you can go get it could
change your lifestyle and winning and being able to be happy,
going to work in a good place and being good.
Oh yeah, man, what's the extually uxtra five hundred thousand
extra a million. You're gonna be looking crazy sitting you
know what I'm saying, pissed off. So I'm with the
thousand percent. Go get your bag, the biggest bag you can.
(22:50):
But then it's like if it's like Pennycatch at the
end when you got all the contracts in front of you.
You looking at him like, m Okay, okay, it's really not.
At the end of the day, I'm making thirty three
million dollars a year. Here chilling, feeling good. You know
what I'm saying, Like that, Then that's kind of what
I'm hoping he's saying instead of like, no, if it's
twelve million dollars different, you better know, go get your cheese, right,
(23:10):
that's money, you know, six million for your children.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Liquid money.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
No, you know what I'm saying A couple little here, like, no,
I'm gonna be able to make that on the back end,
you know what I'm saying, Like so, I hope that's
kind of and I think that's kind of what he's saying,
because that's that's what I would say.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Okay, yeah, I got you. Now, I'm good with that.
I'm good with that. Now look here, man, let's let's
talk about let's talk about your team. Man, So your
boys do it. He expected to get his first start Sunday. Yes,
we're dealing on the side.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
You know this go be the forty second quarterback that
the Brown's don had as a starter since since nineteen
ninety nine. Man, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
That's a lot of quarterbacks, like how many head coaches
like a lot a.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Lot of game coaches through right, a lot of head coach.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Let's speak of the head coaches. Man, Hey the boy.
Stefanski was asked if he would change anything about how
he divided up reps for the quarterback and what he
had to say.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Would you have changed anything about the approach about how
you maybe divided up the first team reps from training
camp to now? Yeah, I understand the question, Cam.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
I think it's important that you do what you think
is right for a football team. The development of our
players is constant. It doesn't happen just in one drill
or in one practice or one meeting. So we trust
our guys, We trust our backup players to be ready
to go. And Shoudor is ready to go. Obviously, I
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know he wants to play better. I want to coach better,
all those type of things. But that just comes. That'll
come through work. That's where it will come.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Okay, Joe, Joe, So listen. That mean let me let me,
let me, let me let me talk about this. Okay,
please talk about this.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Kevin.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Obviously you didn't understand the question because you didn't answer it.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Okay. Now, that's one of.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
The most genearic, you know type responses that you can get.
And I don't know, Kevin, are you uncomfortable with the
truthful answer because it.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
May make you look bad maybe?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Or I don't know, you could be hiding something because
I know you didn't misunderstand the question yourself.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Said, I understand the question. Quiet.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
He is up there talking like he running for office,
like he's a politician.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Cleveland, y'all done had a politician, not a head coach.
Bear that was y'all unhired man.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
This man can't even stand on his own decision or
admit that he was wrong or even possibly in hindsight,
I could have did something different that.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
May have helped my team. So, like, I want to know,
if you knew.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
That Dylan is not going to play now and he's
not going to be the backup, would you give or
are you going to give the backup any reps at
the one that would be backing up to your door.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I don't know what you think, y'all debo.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I'm I'm I'm with you with when Kevin can't answer
a question like stand on something, stand on anything, you
know what I'm saying like like, if you don't believe
like to answer it, do you think you would have
switched it up?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
No, I would have did.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Exactly what I'm doing right now, because that's the way
my processes. I would have gave dealing all of the
reps because he's a young quarterback and I think he's
if it were to split any reps, he needs to
get every rep so he's ready for the game. Say
that or say no, I don't think your door was ready.
He's not going to be the second string quarterback. And
I mean what say anything, Say something that makes us mad,
(27:37):
say something that makes us He's just trying to give
us political answer, Like, well, he's like he's got to
combine us.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
You can't give a political answer. Man, You're not a politician.
You a head coach that don't win or lose. You
what are lit with me? You're with me? You're with me.
We're saying the same thing.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
He's talking like he's like he like he can't stand
on something Like he's like he's scared to like say
if he did something wrong or admit to why he's
making this decision. Stand on while you're doing things, sir,
say you wanted theydn't have all of the reps because
he was our first string quarterback. He's a rookie and
I just wanted him to get every I wanted him
to get all of them. So he's ready. He's premially
ready for the game. Say that like or you don't?
Speaker 1 (28:16):
We can please say that? Can you? Can you please
say that anything?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Because then I then I then we then like, okay, perfect,
Then somebody can nobody say I don't agree, but I
see what watch why you do that?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
But if you don't say nothing, then then hold on
what I asked the question.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
And I don't know where he stands.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
So that's the only part that gets me off, Like
say something, stand on it. And then now we can
now at least we can understand where you're coming from.
I don't even know where you're coming from.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Mmm, joe y'all got some problems over there and in Cleveland.
Now here's some disturbing information. All right, doors don't got
broken into during the game. That's crazy, man. M hm again.
(29:09):
Now you know me, I gotta get a little sum started,
you know, I gotta I'm like a.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
I'm like an instigator. Of sorts.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I like to and I like to you know, I
like to keep being interesting, you know what I mean, Joe,
I like to keep things interesting. So this is like
something that I what's the thing where you like say
something that that could be true, could not be true,
but it's true or ain't true, find out later it
could be true.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
You know what that what they call that? What they
call that? What they call that? What that is? Hypothetical? No, no, no, no,
conspiracy a conspiracy theory, okay, Okay, So this is just
I'm not saying this is true.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Okay, I'm just I'm just spitballing, okay, because you know
that's you know, this is my conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Okay. So this is what I thought happened or conspiracy
or what I think could that.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
So halftime came and he knew that Dylan was out right,
and when he found that out, Kevin probably got a
call from or Dylan might have called his agent said
I'm out and Kevin, oh my goodness, they got the
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same agent anyway, So I think that it was conspiracy
to make sure that Shador had a little bit more
pressure on him. So it's just I'm just spitball I'm
not saying this happened. I'm just talking. This is a story.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
People, listen, start.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I'm not saying this happened. Okay, I'm just talking.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I think the agent, since they both have the same agent,
Dylan and Kevin Stefanski, I think they went and broke
to the man's house, had somebody do devo.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
See there you go.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Listen, I'm just talking talking about somebody breaking it to
my man's house.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I'm just talking, Dylan. No, listen, I'm just spitballing. I'm
not saying this happen. I'm just talking. I'm telling the story.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
This is I'm not here.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I'm not here for this, man, I'm not here for
this conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I think and I think it was in my story.
I'm just spitballing here, man, listen, listen to me.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Man.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
And I'm thinking they was hoping that it got to
him before he went back out there or sometime during
the game's rallying a little more.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
No, I'm just giving what you think. I know for
I pray now, I pray now. You know my madhouse
got hit up.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Debo.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
We gotta you know, let's just hope that everything is
okay because that's that's just messed up your the privacy
in your own home. People breaking into your house. I
don't want to make a joke about people breaking it.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I'm making joke about people making a joke that.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
That that that Dylan Gabriel and coaching casket ain't.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I'm not making the joke. I'm just telling you what.
I'm just giving a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Debo, debo. I think better than you. You are, come on, debo,
you better than that. You better than that, you better
than that.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
You don't believe that, you don't believe that conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
I'm writing a story, a fictional story. Joe, Okay, I'm
just sad. Man. That's just bad that I'm all that
you are.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
They are breaking them a Mansha door's house man, That's
just that's bad business.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
That's bad business. I hope that people are called.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Hope they get caught. I hope they get caught. They
get is true, they ain't gonna get caught.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
I'm just saying, if you're serious, is true, they're gonna
be on the expense.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
There is through true.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
They're in the locker room, my dog right now. I'm
just saying saying, listen, man, a man can't tell the truth.
Saved his life.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So even if it was true, which I know it
ain't true, I'm just you know, I'm just getting trashed,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I just like that. I like to get it out
there sometimes. You know what I'm saying. I feel you.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
I feel you like to stir some stuff up sometimes.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Like speaking of stirring it up, man, they got they
got Jamorrow Chase for one game final on five hundred K.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yeah, listen to this though, listen to this.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
According to Ian Rapperport, Jamar Chase plans to appeal the
one game suspension, claiming that if he was going to
spit on Jalen Ramsey, he would have spit in his
face and not his jersey or ground what you go
(33:56):
back it up with. I meant to spin, just not
in his face, on his jersey or you didn't. You
was just spitting within three inches of somebody, Jaylen. He
said he would have spitt in your Nah. Don't let
me gash Jaylor. I ain't gas. I ain't gonna gas.
(34:19):
I ain't go through that to you.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Look so you can't back that up with that.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
You can't you can't go in and try and like,
what are you appealing?
Speaker 5 (34:31):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
It's there, You're done. You didn't already lie. First you
said you didn't even do it. Now you're saying you
did spit. You just didn't mean to spit on him.
And if you were actually trying to spit on him,
you would.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Have spit in his face. If you had spitting his face,
he'd be still on top of you.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Bro, right now, right now, Debo.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
He says this, Bro, because I mean, you know how
when you when you get a fine like people I
was ap pilling stuff that you know you did wrong.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
So you're trying to see if you just trying to
see if you get some money.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
To see if you give me something, give me something,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Like, you know you did it wrong. You know what
for you a pilling that they need to give you
some motive.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
They might have to give you some more because blatantly
saying that, like and then then to go in when
he spit on the debo to not move and not
react and then act like he didn't know you know exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
If I'm there and I didn't mean to spit on you,
and you I'm not spitting no way.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Listen here. Man. The first thing.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
That happens when you were a kid, that first time
you spit, you get popped in the mouth like that.
Don't you never spit? My mama popped me in my mouth,
dude when I spit. Dude, she said, don't you never spit.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I didn't know. She meant, don't spit on somebody, So
I never do. I didn't.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
You just wouldn't spit.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I didn't. I listen, I did spit. Listen, brouh.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I'm at a football game high school and I'm standing
next to my home and my homeboy spit on the ground.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Joe, I grab myself. Ooh, don't do that. I'm gonna
come pop you in the mouth. I said my mama, Oh,
don't do that. My mama gonna come pop you in
the mouth.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
No, bro, No, but seriously, listen, you cannot even spit
on the ground, dude. In Singapore, it's a thousand dollars
for one spit. If you do it again, it keeps doubling.
You do three spits, man, you about fifteen thousand dollars
in man, like just spitting on the ground and President
(36:37):
bro like, you cannot spit on anyone. Dude, that's the
most disrespectful thing in the world you could ever do
in life. Brou The NFL got to make an example
of this, dude. Like, with this being the third what's
going Like, what's gonna happen the next time?
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
We're talking about the integrity of the NFL protecting the
shield and this reputation. What are you doing here? What
what signal are you sending out? Hey, spit on somebody? Well,
get your game, don't worry about it.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Yeah, no, that's it's it's it's wild man.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
And then when you react to being spit you get
kicked out the game.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
What I should just be spit on and stand there
and take it?
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
The punches they worried about, more of a punches thrown
that people getting spin on.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
We gotta switch that. Yeah, Like I.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Don't I don't understand the thought processing him answering or
responding to this.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
That is that is true? Bro, Bro, It's true. It's true.
He basically saying I would have spinned in his face.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
So how you're gonna he's gonna lift his head, Jamar,
You're trying to get away with it, like you spit
and didn't even move, and you basically felt like you
got away with it until four K was out there
in a thousand cameras.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
So you said I would have split on his face. No,
you wouldn't have trying to.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Get away with it someone you try to lift your
head up so you can get that guts bit boom
right into him. No, you're trying to be undercover and
slide and spit on somebody to get away with it.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
You're not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Not even close to it, bro not even close to it.
That was wild, yo.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
The Giants they benched Carter for sleeping during the walkthrough,
but he said he was not sleeping. He said he
was actually doing recovery. Nevertheless, it was on me, So
I ain't got no problem him saying because he actually
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took accountability. He just like, Yo, you said I was
sleeping during a walk through, Like who in the world
does that?
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Like that?
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yes, I should have been there, boom boom boom, But
you ain't gonna sit here and make it seem like
I was just, Oh, I'm just sleeping. I'll get to
the walk through whenever I get time. Like that's crazy,
Like they just they're just trying to stir up some stuff.
You know, I don't listen. I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Man. I used to sleep. I used to sleep in
the meetings.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
You know what I'm saying, de ball, I'm not gonna
be the one to sit here and lie my my my,
I mean not not.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
When I started getting my rookie year, it was.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
It was bad.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I was getting fine. My man, A wake me up,
because I was I was outside you was you was
drafted my rookie year.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
I wasn't sleeping the meetings, bro. I used to stand
up in the back.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
I used to take my clothes off and jog in
place that man I got after I got after I
got to me, man, I'd sit up there. I ain't
gonnaven lie to you, man and coach the boat. He'd uh,
he'd be, he'd be up there. I'll be sitting in
the front. He'd be up there, you know, going through
(39:51):
his stuff.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
I'd be heavy, and I'll go to sleep.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
And only time he would ever attack me is when
I would get a snore out.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
He gets oh yeah, deep wow, bruh yo.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
You you were dreaming in the meetings.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
You weren't just like a little you know.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
It wasn't all the time it was you know, it's
like it was like once, you know, once once every
other week. You got to realize, Man, I get home.
You know, we get home from a Sunday game. If
we get home at three four o'clock, I go straight.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
To the gym. Damn you up? Okay you then I
go home. I started getting treatment and therapy.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Dude, I may not sleep until Tuesday night, and I'm
getting up at like three four to go in, so
I may get three four hours of sleep to go in.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
So I get you know what I'm saying. So that's wild.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
You taking care of your body, getting working, getting working. Iyeh,
sleep and being tired because I was out too late,
That's that was that.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
That's yeah. I would out my rookie year with that.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
That's that's I'm not I'm not proud of it, but
we're here to be honest about what was going on.
So then might couple of just standing up too late,
like and that's why I was only in the beginning
after that.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
For me, the reason I had to be in the back,
standing up, jumping around is I was on special teams.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
But I'm hanging out with my old j's who in
the front with the feet kicked up. I'm back here
running the place, you know, trying to stay I can't.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Yes, you know what, after that broke, I'm telling you
some people after that second come, after that first deal,
after that first deal, yeah, I could be closed a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Right right.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
A standing you know what I'm saying. I couldn't close, dude,
I couldn't close my eyes. So it was my what one?
My third deal? Yeah, I realized, Joe, I ain't start
until five years in almost six only started. Hell, I
(41:55):
only started with Pittsburgh from two thousand having to twelve
because I went there what's.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
The name in thirteen? That's crazy. It came back fourteen
to seventeen. That's crazy. De bro.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, like there half of my time with special teams, bro,
half of what's starting.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Well, I ain't gonna lie to you. Man.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
You didn't you did that because you win and got
all the Pro Bowls and Defensive Player of the Year.
Like people don't just walk around with Defensivelayer of the Year.
You know what I'm saying, like this this is.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
True, saying, yeah, I found that out. I found that
out though I ain't gonna lie to you, it ain't.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I really don't think it'll ever be another player that
will be Defensive Player of the Year that'll be undrafted
because the chances of a guy making.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
It now, I was an undrafted player, they're not gonna
they're not gonna miss out on that.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
It's so slim now, dude, Like you don't you don't
have the time to actually, you know, get the reps
that you need.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
You don't have many preseason games to show yourself anymore.
It's only what three now, So you know that that
opportunity now, dude is slim.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Gotta you gotta flash just to make it right, just
to make it, you know.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
And for me, I would have never got an opportunity
to start if PS hadn't spit on William b Yep, yep, yep,
because they would have.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Never gave me. Yeah, they never gave that.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
To actually get out there. And it was like, oh,
they had a guy that they had drafted ahead of me,
and he he wasn't he wasn't better than me, but
they drafted him ahead, so they were playing him anytime.
They knew that one of the starters would be out,
he would dress, he played no special teams, started on nothing.
I did all the special teams and all that, and
(43:52):
ps happened to get kicked out right before the game.
They didn't know what was gonna happen, so he wasn't dressed.
I'm there and they like, yo, you gotta go.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
I'm like, all right, cool, yeah for sure, Yeah, yeah,
that's perfect man.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
You ready for that? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (44:11):
No question, no question. I think I think I might
have got my first SECT in that game. First start
two thousand what was that twenty eleven? No, sorry, two
thousand and four, that was No, it might have been five,
(44:31):
I can't remember. Four or five, five or six, something
like that. That was my first first time I ever
gotta ever gotta start. But I came into two thousand
and two, like my first start ever was like almost
three years later.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
No, for sure, you know so damn that's good shit though, debo.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yeah for sure. We go go over here to what
was it Buffalo?
Speaker 2 (44:55):
I think we got oh man, he was They said
he was dancing before the game. I guess against the
bu He was benched by the team for being late
to practice on Friday.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
We got the video right, he was crazy would killing
He was getting it too though. Listen, I got hear
that what there was they playing that? I think that's
I think I know the song that d he was.
What's it called?
Speaker 1 (45:23):
I Bet you won't. I bet you won't. I bet
you won't. I bet you won't. Hey, that might be it?
That was that? That might be.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
Yeah, that song will make you get the going.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Instantly, like, yeah, that might be.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
It might be bro, that might be you know, Hawkins
had had had a message for him though.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
We got the sound show it up, pop it or
when the guys to come on?
Speaker 7 (45:49):
And Kean knows right now he's in the hot seat
and he needs to come on and show up for
us pats on the back or over with and it's
time for him to grow up. And he knows it.
And uh, as a older player on the team, we
hold everybody accountable and uh, we shoot straight, we don't
sugarcoat it, and the words and we're said to him
(46:09):
and he took it.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Well.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
What do you think of him dancing before the game,
And what do you think of Hawkins's message towing?
Speaker 4 (46:21):
I like I like the message from og because I
like him.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
I like him a lot.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
He's very respectful, and he does you in the least
by example. The one thing I'll say is it's more
that it's not about the dancing. I don't want to
take away. I want him the kid to sit there
and be sad and act like all.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
No, I don't need him taking the rest of the
team down because.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
There being pissed off.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Yes, the thing is I love about what he said
was he's not talking about the dancing part.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
I need you to be if you that's you be.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
You don't be walking around here looking crazy because you
messed up. We're talking about you missing practice, being late
to practice.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
We need you. You're a key player. You can't be
doing that. The coaches sat you down because you would
lay for practice.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
And you know what I'm saying, like, that's the thing.
We need you to be way more present. So I
think he's telling him as a leader, we need you,
we need you to be here. You can't be doing that,
and uh, just that's just not gonna work. I'm not
worried about him dancing, because that's just a happy person.
That's his personality that he brings to the team when
they're good. So I know his teammates was around him
getting it too. That's just a vibe guy. You gotta dudes,
is just you're just happy to be around. And I
(47:22):
wouldn't want Keyan to be a dude that's like man
just sulking because he's not playing or your bad vibes.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Keep your vibes up. But at the same time, don't
miss meetings. We need you.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
So I love the way that they went about it.
I don't want him to not be dancing like that's
just you. But same time, I need you to be
a practice on Friday.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Yeah, yeah, it don't matter, dude.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
If he did it the other way, they'd be like, oh,
he out there sulking because he didn't get to play.
He ain't not he ain't doing nothing to motivate his teammates.
He should be out there being a team guy and
all the other stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
But now he danced, Oh he danced. He don't even care.
He ain't playing. He's too happy. He too happy.
Speaker 6 (48:01):
Win.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
You can't win with these bombs nowadays, Like you ain't
played the game, you ain't did it. You don't understand
what people out there going.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Through, what they need to do with what energy. You
should really come with up like, come on, man, they
already gave him. The lineman said the message.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
It ain't even harsh, dude. That's Og talking to him,
and that's him accepting it and being like, yes, you're right,
I understand.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
But with og Il respect to because Og going love
up on him too. He's not just telling them nothing crazy,
and he's not talking to you when you're not doing
something that that's affecting your game and that's affecting the team.
He's really trying to help you grow as a player,
and that's what good bets do.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
He's not just doing nothing crazy.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Then he's telling them, he's like, no, like we let
him know, like we need you, this what we approve,
what we expect.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
So it's not a bashing. It's not like go out there.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
It's not it's not even close to a bashing.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
No, Like, that's me going ahead and saying what I
need to say, and it being in a respectful manner
a leader, you know.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Staying needs to be said. And I'm not attacking him.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
I'm stating what's the obvious is, which he has already said, Yes, yo,
we need you, like I don't due they just you
want to get something started.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
That's all. I'm not mad at that at all. I
just need him to be there. And I love the
way O G did it.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Oh, no question about it. You can't you can't. You
can't come no better than that man, especially and how
he you know, how he took it, how he took
in his stride and he's like, yo, I understand, you
know it ain't gonna happen no more.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Yo. Over in Atlanta, Michael.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
He panis he he has this, dude, he done did
a lot of lot of c and all this other stuff,
like college was crazy, like he do. He tore he
He suffered a partially tour in a CEO, this time
during Sunday's game to the Panthers. Like I guess he's
seeking the second opinion, but they're saying that it's not encouraging.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
This will be his fifth season ending surgery in.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Eight college and pro seasons, Dude, three ACLS twenty eighteen,
twenty twenty, and this partial right now in twenty five, Dug.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
That sucks for him.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
They worried about they worried about them paying him, you know,
one hundred and eighty million to avoid an issue, and
now they're like they're in an issue.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
You paid that upfront just so that you didn't have
to pay more if things went better than what y'all
thought it was.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Go go.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Yeah, man, I mean this, I just feel bad for him.
I feel sorry for him. You know, football is football.
It's one hundred percent people gonna get hurt. It's going
to be injuries and then wear and tearing your body.
He was in college for a long time and then
just continuous injuries and it keeps happening and we're not
getting no younger.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
You know, he had a sternal convicular uh uh blow,
that's what James had. Like, that's your that's right here, dude,
that's not your AC Dude, that I know what that is.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Dude. That's eight months mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
That's a long process, bro. So you know, man, I
just the the injuries for him. I just feel bad
for him. But you know, it's the NFL, man, and
then you just continuously getting hurt. I just pray for
that he gets recovered. And with the Falcons, I mean
that's just that's just that's unfortunate. You drafted quarterbacks, you
draft them a little bit of order. Drafted him a
(51:42):
little bit earlier than then some people expected, you know
what I'm saying coming off of he had a lot
of injuries in college.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
So you know, it is what it is. That's part
of that, that's part of business.
Speaker 5 (51:54):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
Some things go go, they waste, some things go our way.
But at the same time, he's still got to deal
with it physically.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
Yeah, I just pray for him, you know that. Mentally
that's just tough. Just you know, like you said, your
son gets hurt, You've had surgeries.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
I've had surgeries.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
Just continuous rehab and thinking you're back to a position.
And then but when you're getting older, you trying to
play at the highest level, I think that could be
a lot a lot tougher, you know what I'm saying,
Like you trying to get back.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Especially you know that's it's not it's not just playing
the game anymore. It's like your your career is your life. Yeah,
but you know, and an eighty of help, you feel help.
I'm gonna pray for him all all day though.
Speaker 4 (52:34):
Did he do you say, did he get I don't
think he got.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
One hundred and eighty.
Speaker 4 (52:39):
Dude, because he's on the rookie's on his rookie deal, right.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
They paid a different quarterback one hundred and eighty.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
Oh I think it might have been Uh was it
Kirk Cousins. Yeah, yeah, they paid Kirk Cousins one eighty.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
Yeah, they paid a different quarterback one hundred and eighty.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
And now he doesne did this.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
So that's why they saying the Falcon's looking is done.
Got a quarterback in the top pick. He hurt and
then Kirk Cousins ain't really panned out with the one eighty.
Speaker 5 (53:11):
He ain't gonna what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (53:14):
He ain't.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
He ain't panned out with the one eighty They pay.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
Them in Allder.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
Oh yeah, that's for sure. Kirk Cousins. He's sitting good.
I'm tripping.
Speaker 4 (53:25):
Kirk Cousin's been stinging him for a long time.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
Good man.
Speaker 3 (53:29):
I love Kirk Cousins and his agent, and they just
write where you need to be.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
I'm a staring quarterback.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
Good top is sixty, give me thirty, top is fifty something,
I do twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
He was just right there, just sting it is. Yes, Mmm,
they gotta go earn it. Got to.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
Know if you're gonna dude, Bro, Pennis was doing that. Now,
I ain't ain't gonna be able give him that, Pennis. No,
he ain't able to give them that, Pennis. No, no, no, no,
no no no.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
That's that's that's gonna be. That's gonna be hard to hold.
Speaker 4 (54:10):
Man prayers up for Penis though, But sure question.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
Look here, man, we want to thank y'all for joining us,
even though the same what it should be. I'm sinking
in my chair because I'm trying to stay low enough
but not get too high on y'all like this. So
the little technical difficulty, yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Little little technical difficulties.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Man. Look here, man, make sure you guys hit the
like and subscribe button.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
We will be back here on Friday.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
Joe yop, make sure y'all hit that like and subscribe button.
Speaker 3 (54:40):
Man, appreciate y'all joining me in debo every time you come.
Speaker 4 (54:43):
We really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
Guys. We out
Speaker 3 (54:49):
How you doing today, Joe, let me tell yourself to devot,
devote in my time, y
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