Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Dallas Cowboys going on the road to take on the Las Vegas Raiders, and Cincinnati Bengals Ja’Marr Chase has been suspended for 1 game after spitting at Jalen Ramsey, and Shedeur Sanders is supposed start this Sunday and much more!
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you just saw beat down. Just happened. The Cowboys beat
the Raiders by the score of thirty three to sixteen.
George Pickins and CD Lamb spent Dallas opening series on
the bench coach's decision, reportedly violating team rules. We'll get
to that in a minute. But the Cowboys run their
record to four to five and one, so there's seven
games left, O Joe. The Raiders fall to two and eight.
No surprise there. Dak was sensational tonight twenty five and
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thirty three, two sixty eight, four touchdown, zero interceptions. He
did have the strip sack fumble. Javonte Williams ran the
ball twenty two times for ninety three yards. They had
thirty one rush attempts one hundred and fourteen yards. George
Pickins led to charge nine carries for a buck forty
four in a touchdown. Seed He had five for sixty
six and a touchdown, and Jake Ferguson had four for
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sixteen and a touchdown. Ceed's kicking himself. I mean, Dak
could have throw him a better ball he had Dak
had he sped himself up more than what he needed
to Seed.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
He know, he like he gotta make that catch.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Gino twenty seven and forty two to two thirty eight,
one touchdown, won an exception. The running game was terrible.
The offensive line is terrible. A center if god off,
I don't I don't like to say this, but y'all
saw it. How many safety how many sacks did he
give up? He's just he was just overmatched and oh
joll this is not you know, hindsight. Ashton Genty was
(04:09):
is a good player, but he's not the sixth pick
in the draft because you got too many more.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
You take that guy, you got everything you need.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
But if you got everything you need, guess you're not
picking sixth in the draft. He's not Ladonian Tomlinson, he's
not Adrian Peterson, sir. But you rewarded him as if
he was one of those transformational running backs.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
He's not.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I mean, I mean when when you watch him play,
when you watch him play in college, obviously, what he
was able to do at Boise at Boise State, it was,
it was phenomenal. He had a phenomenal season. But then
you take into account.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
You know, you stepped up in competition.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Ye yeah, I hate saying that.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
I hate saying that, but you have to take that
into account and what he was able to do against them.
I think he played, he played against Penn State, and
he he you know, he did fairly well. But it's
much different as opposed to coming into the NFL and
and and using that as an assessment in him being
able to have success at this level, especially when you
go to a team that is that is as bad
(05:10):
as the raders are, you have to be that much
more special as they running back. You have to be
one of those one of those generational talents.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You need to be Barrys Sanders there you.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Go to be able to to be able to overshadow
how bad they are.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
He's not Barry Sanders, he's not Ladanian, he's not a
he's not a Peterson, he's not that. He's not Say Kwan.
He's not one of those transformational backs.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
O yo, and go ahead, go ahead. He's good.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Yeah, he's good.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Good.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
He's just not he's not them, and he's not good
enough to overcome how bad the raiders are.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Let's thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
And when you need multiple things, Hey, oh Joe, I
got a house. You know in the house, ain't that
s fiffy? I don't need to spend thirty five thousand
dollars on the couch. I ain't got no refrigerator, ain't
got no microwave, I ain't got no stove. I ain't
got no bedroom furniture. I ain't got no living room furniture.
I just got a thirty five thousand dollar couch. I
ain't got no TVs. They needed too much to spend
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that pick on that guy. You needed a quarterback to
be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
No he listen, they got a quarterback. They just ain't
got they ain't got much to work with.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Ye I mean he got a quarterback? Who the Raiders
man stopping?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Oh joe?
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Okay, anyway, listen another for better context, for better context
for those that are watching, I want you to think
about Adrian Peterson. Once you think about Adrian Peterson when
he was with the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yes, they didn't have much.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
On No, but he ain't Peterson.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I know. I'm just giving people context.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Oh okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I see what
you're saying.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
To be able to affect the Raiders and and and
have them going in the positive light despite them having
so many missing pieces, to be able to make a difference,
you would have to be like an Adrian Peterson. Yes,
but but he's just not that very very good player.
No disrespect to young Bull, but he just.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Let me ask your question. You think the Raiders are
gonna go in the draft this year and get a quarterback?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Ship? Yeah, I mean what do you think? I'm not sure? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Absolutely, And guess guess what. Guess what? Well, they probably
would have screwed him up.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
He wouldn't have been with the Jackson dark Nay, but like,
but they probably would have screwed him up.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But the Raiders need they need a lot of the defense,
with the exception of Crosby. Yes, sir, oh Joe, you
need you need corners, you need safeties, you need linebackers,
you need a lot of stuff. Thirty six was playing scared.
Oh Joe, you see him up there, like, oh oh man,
this is George Pickens. Damn what am I gonna do?
Catch this ball high and the hell him? I gonna
get him on the ground. Oh goodness, Lord, have mercy.
(07:52):
Hey y'all, why did y'all call this coverage? That's gonna
make me cover? George Pickens?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
One, Well, you play for the Raiders. You for the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Un a blind man knows, and you play for the Raiders.
What coverage are you playing? You're playing man coverage man,
for sure playing man. You understand and know that going
into the game. Boy, this is the bright lights, This
is the bright lights. This is the game you want
to get up for. You want to be playing against
the Cowboys. You want the world watching, You want everybody watching.
(08:24):
When you as a defensive back, I get to play
against Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens. You got to be
chomping at the bitch for a battle like that too.
I want that as a competitor as a player.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
But the Raiders are so Oh Joe, the Raiders are.
They're so bad. They need so many things. They need
an offensive line, they need a defensive line, they need
something to go. If I'm Max Crosby, I want to
get out. Y'all need Max Crosley. You see you see
a Miles Garrett and we're going to talk about this
is having a historic a historic season. He has no
(09:02):
impact on them winning now, and it's unfortunate because he
has fifteen sacks with seven games to play. There's a
great chance he's gonna break that record that he's gonna
end up with twenty three, twenty four sacks, and it's
gonna be for nothing. They're probably finished with four and thirteen.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
MaTx. Crosby is unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
He can play the run now.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
He's a hard guy to block because you never do
because he's like a junior. Say I arrested soul. You
never know where he's gonna be. He's supposed to be
outside and then he crosses your face. You expect him
to cross your face, and now he bulls you back
into the backfield.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
So he's a really hard.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Guy to block or to line up, and you can
line him up on the line, but he's not gonna
be He's never he's not going to win there because
there's so many pieces away from fielding. Oh Joe, I
can't tell you. Like the receivers. I know Lockett. I
was like, Oh, that's Locket. That's the one that used
to be in Seattle, went to Tennessee asports release because
he wasn't getting any to catch it.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
They ran up down down in the red zone. Hold on,
what's the guy? Let me see Tucker. They run it
like a Tampa two. Yes, sir, Me and my quarterback
would say, look, probably in this area if we run
this play, I'm not gonna get over the top of him.
Put it on my back shoulder. Yeah, because he running
to a point. Oh Joe, I can't get on the
(10:18):
top of my run out of the end zone. Hell,
I'll be in Henderson.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Oh yeah, hey, but hold on you in the first half, right, yes, yes,
see that Do you.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Know what that comes with chemistry, that comes with rhythm.
Could you see where Geno Smith threw it? Because Gino Geno, yes,
back shoulder, Yes right, I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Throwing it on your back shoulder and he just kept running.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
So I mean if you threw the ball the right way,
it would have hit the line back in the back
of the head.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
But see that's like, okay, that's it. Man.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
What your thinking? I don't know because Ochoe didn't tell
me what he was thinking. Okay, Geno need to relay
that to him. He don't do no good for Gino
to throw it on his back shoulder because the guy
is running it like they drew it up. He is
not vetteran enough to understand if I can't get over
the top, he's gonna fit this ball on my back shoulder. Yes, sir,
So now all I do. I'm a haul buddy, like
(11:05):
I'm trying to get over the top and guess what,
I'm open.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
My heels and right here and it's gonna be a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And all to come down to, especially as a receiver.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
And we saw something similar to this, the type of
throw I go, I go back to I go back
to the Jets game. Yeah, Jets game with with with
A d Mitchell. You know when they were in that.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
It was yeah, the answer he went outside and the yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Everybody saying every and obviously the dv's and trail. So
it's not a perfect ball over top. What's the best
place to put it with the dB trailing right behind him?
Put it on his back shoulder away from the dB.
That's only on his inside hip trying to catch up.
It's a perfect throw. Same thing here.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
You know, if Tucker could have could have understood.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
And had y yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Had more control of his body, it would have been
an easy catch and pitch and catching.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
You got problem what A d Mitchell was on the
way he had his hands, have the ball this off
the ground, and you try to catch it like this,
your hands up on it like this. Now you got
to make your hands like their bucket. You can't catch
the ball cups. Guess what, even if you do catch it,
when you hit the ground, poop, it's.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Gonna pop up right out.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
And the funny thing, those are small nuances on Those are.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Smaller luances when it comes to younger players and veterans
that you already know, yes, no, but I mean it's
unfortunate the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
They need a lot on Hey they do. It's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
It's gonna be a long time because you understand how
long it takes the Bill a team, Yes, very long
time to be a competitive team where you can compete,
especially in that goddamn conference.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
They in, Oh you mean the division with my bold
knicks and Justin Herbert, I know what you.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Meant A West Division?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Now the thing that I look, the best thing that
happened was picked George Pickens was to get out of Pittsburgh.
He had gone comfortable. He wasn't gonna do. He needed something.
He needs, need to be somewhere where they could get
into football and he'd be happy. Dak can get into football.
He's happy, he's playing happy, he's playing hard.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
He's tried.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
He tried.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
He reminds me now he ain't the same Bill, but
he reminds me the way he plays, like to every
time to caught the ball, to trying to get to
hit his head on the gold post.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Every time, bye bye.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Every time George Pickings, you catch hell getting him on
the ground. Because if you think he's just gonna go down.
Oh yeah, I got if he gonna go down, No,
he's not. He's not going down, yep. And he's tough
to deal with because he has that mindset that, oh
I know, Oh you're scared.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I can tell you scared. You're back at all. You scared.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Hey, give me a smoke rock, give me give me
something quick. Let me get my hands on it.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
And now I take care of the rest.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
I do the rest.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I take it.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I'll do the rest.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
He's been. He's been everything that the Cowboys could have
hoped for and more and more, yes and more. Now, look,
the record is what the record is. But he's played exceptionally.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Well, phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
He's played really really well. And that threw the ball well.
And and you know, Dak can have these games if
you don't pressure that. Now, he's gonna pick you apart
because he got the weapons to pick you upon it.
I mean, it's it's shooting fish in the barrow. He
got picked, he got a CD, he got Ferguson, Jake Ferguson.
I like Jake Ferguson. He's not a guy that that
got great speed. But Dak trusts him. Is where he's
(14:27):
supposed to be. He makes good cat he makes a
good catches. He's a solid tight end. Is he McBride?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
No? No? Is he the port To No?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Is he Loveland in Chicago? No?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Is he Warning and and and at the Colts?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
No.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
But he's a very good tight end for what they
need because they run everything outside in a lot of
those teams run things inside out. With that being said,
oh Joe, uh, what do you like about what you
saw from the cowboys?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Man?
Speaker 5 (14:56):
They looked good on And then the first the first
thing I wanted to talk about. I couldn't wait to
actually get on the show. And when I said, after
that conversation with with number three, after that conversation that
I had with three, and I told you you wouldn't
have no more problems. I told you wouldn't have no
more problems. Especially I'm about on the field. On the
field stuff, now off the field stuff you have to
(15:17):
be able to control. Because I got him to understand,
I say, young boy, you got to remember. And I
use examples of other players that were stellar. I use
examples of other receivers that have anything.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Hell, I even use myself at one point to kind
of get it through his head and get it through
his head early. You know, when you have a team
giving up on you with it a special talent like yourself,
all right, that door starting to close. And that might
not have closed all the way, but it kind of
lurts other teams, like, listen, if we can't deal with them, man,
y'all can take them as good as you are.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You know what that means. You know what that means. Now,
you're not gonna get too many chances.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
You're not gonna get that much great because there's always
somebody else they're willing to deal with that's not gonna
bring that kind of problem the spite despite.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
How good you are. So he's been. This is what
he's always been on. Oh for sure, this is what
he's always been.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
So I'm just glad he can flourish, he can shine,
he's playing, he's smiling, he's.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Still he's still in the NFL. Young boy, he's still that.
You know, he didn't lose that.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
That's who he is, and.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I love it he didn't. I think he didn't lose
what make some special.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I think the worst thing, the worst thing that happened
to him is that he went to Pittsburgh who has
a history of receivers.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Behaving in this manner. Go back and look at it.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
We don't have to call any names, but you go
back and look at the Steelers history, at the wide
receiver position. There's a reason why most of them don't
get second contracts if you really look at it, if
you really think about it, Old Joe, only one has
really gotten a second contract.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
That's Hines Ward Ab got a second contract.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
And then yeah, but they let plaques go San Antonio Holmes.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
They let Mike what's the fast Mike Wallace, Mike Wallace, Mike,
Emanuel Sanders and Manuel was a picture. But you know,
they just had too many. They had too many guys.
They had to make a decision. Number game, numbers game,
number game, some guys. But I was like, damn, what
is it in Pittsburgh that y'all back? But he's figured
it out. I'm glad you had a conversation with him.
(17:18):
I'm glad he realized, like, Bro, you can see your grandkids,
grandkids up for the rest of their.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Life and then you're good and you straight, and.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
That's what he's Hey, this is exactly what it's gonna
be too. Now I can't wait to the off season.
Oh yeah, I can't wait to the off season.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Now.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
I know Cowboys fans. I know Cowboys fans are loving Pick.
I know they're loving what he's doing, what he's doing there.
But when when I think about it, I would love
for him to go to go to another team, no
disrespect Cowboys fan. To go to another team to get
as much as he possibly can, as much as he's
possibly can to a quarterback, to a team that is
(17:54):
efficient offensively, that can also get in the ball where he.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Can be the number one and be on his own team, where.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
He can get ten eleven targets a game. They can
put him in positions to make that.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Now he got eleven tonight.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
But look, oh yo, listen, we gotta be fair. Pick
Pick is what he is. He's a phenomenal talent. But
the Raiders are trash.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Hey you back, go out there, you back, go out
there and get five for forty Oh yoke.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Hey, five for forty five for forty Stay with me
real quick, you throw me five, You throw me five
NFL balls on right now with the way I'm in shape,
and now if they put me, if you put me
in positions to be able to manipulate the defense.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I might have my one one sixty O.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yo, they're gonna put you, gonna catch one pass and
your hamstring's gonna give out me.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yep, you think so.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, I'm in shape, Robbie running.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
You'll run like that were lasts We're the last time
you had a football over your hand and ran full speed.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
I haven't had a football in my hands, but I
do have to run sport full speed when I play
soccer on the weekends. You know, you know, I play
soccer with the Jamaicas weekend. Hey, this ain't no little field.
This was the Jamaicans. Have you ever seen Jamaican play soccer?
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, they don't play. They don't play.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
It's like being it's like playing football with no past
and everybody got damn fast.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, and he think about it. I don't mean to
be off topic. I don't know you.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I'm sure you had Jamaican friends. The Jamaicans I play with.
It's an entire league. Everybody's Jamaican, the whole stadium, everybody.
I can't understand the word they saying it's as if
they just got here to the States. What and within
the way they talk, they talk.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
So angry and so loud. It seems as if they're arguing,
but it's just a regular conversation. They be telling me
stuff on the field. I just smile and say, okay, yes,
I don't understand nothing you say.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
But anyway, Oh Joe, Ceedee Lamb and George Picking spit
the opening series on the bench coach's decision, reportedly for
violating teen rules.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I just don't get these guys. I don't. I don't.
And like I said, it's this new way now. I guess.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I guess coaches and things that you're just gonna have
to accept. Players are gonna be late, players are gonna
blow out things we're gonna talk about. I'm Dual Carter
sleeping through a walkthrough.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
IM.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I'm just at a loss, Oh Joe, I'm just at
a loss. I really am, Ojo, I really am. I
don't really think it's asking too much at your job.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
To be on time.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Hey, I mean, yo, your boss, you're supposed to clock
in at eight o'clock, eight o'clock, eight thirty, nine o'clock.
You're like, nah, I think I'll come at ten today, right,
or oh, you know, we're supposed to have a big
meet and I just sleep through.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I'm just like I said.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Maybe it's just me.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Maybe I'm just old school and I'm asking a bit
too much of the players to be pros.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Not only and your occupation, but how you go about
your business.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yes, they chat.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Maybe it's just I'm just old school. Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I'm wrong, man, you know, you know, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure what it is.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Because obviously with the with the nflp asks for the CBA,
they don't practice as much.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I think they get more rest. I mean, so there
really is no.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Excuse, so we would we would have to actually ask
the players what's the issue, what's the problem? Yeah, there
have been many obviously, in the last two weeks, there
have been many situations. There have been many incidents with
players being late, and most of the time some of
this stuff has swept under the rug. It's swept under
the rug, and they disciplined them behind closed doors and
are still allow them to play. But now coaches are
standing firm, you know, or their decisions and stuff that
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is supposed to be in house is being leaked out.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Well, when you saw your two starting receivers in the
first series, they're not on the field and they're healthy. Now,
if they're street closed, that's one thing standing on the sideline.
Oh Joeys shoulder pads on, and neither one in the game.
You know something's up.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, listen, it could have been part of the game
plan exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So so I'm like okay, and everybody's like, well, it's
crazy that you're two star receivers.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
There's a disciplinary problem because if they were not healthy enough,
they wouldn't even be.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
In uniform, which did probably late to a.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Meeting, late to a meeting or something. Yeah, yeah, fight something. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I just, like I said, I don't that's just me.
I just think the thing is is that I got
one job. It's not like I have a whole bunch
of jobs going on and things like that. All I
got to do hol on, y'all gonna pay me millions.
I mean, we didn't make what they're making now, oh
Jo clearly, but still that was good money. Yeah, And
just to be I'm just I've just always been a stickler,
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even now when you know we got to shoot the
dude for club shay shape to guess say they're gonna
be there, I'm gonna be there like fifteen minutes earlier
and fifteen minutes early, and to make sure I have done,
gotten made up and everything like that. I just I
just my Grandma's like, boy, don't beat a cow tape.
That's just that's yes, just me, that's just wait. Don't
be the what, don't be the cowntail. Don't be the
last one. You know, the count tail is the last
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thing to come in. I like that, come into the bar.
So I just, uh, that's just the way I am.
During the game, Dan's tweeted, George Pickens, I want you
to understand that whenever it's time to negotiate your new contract,
your legacy will be more worth more than being the
high paid receiver if you stayed in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
There's a lot more to the thought process. But think
about it.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Hey, Dance, I love you, but you know how Jerry
is when it comes to paying a player his true value.
George Pickins has one time to maximize. He has one
time to maximize everything he can get. It's not gonna
come from Jerry Cowboy's pans. I love you to death.
I know you're excited about George Pickins and what he
can do for you and your team, not just now
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what he's doing, but for the foresee of the future.
But Picktts is behind the eight ball when it comes
to getting paid. All his counterparts have gotten paid already
then have got a new contract all his counterparts.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Didn't he come in?
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Hold on, didn't he come in with Chase?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
If I'm not mistaken, I might don't. Don't I think
he came in with Chase. There's gotta be his fourth theory,
isn't it.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
It is?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Or no, is his fourth?
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Okay, No, he came in a year after this is
his fourth season.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's time.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
But oho, it's time.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
And yes, I'm not gonna say I'm gonna I can't
see because two things. I'm a firm believer, but two
things can be true. Yes, I just remember when Davis
got his contract, that is with the highest paid player.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
He didn't take land.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
He didn't.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
He wasn't worried about his legacy.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
He didn't.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
That's what the high fad. Don't look it up, chat,
y'all know what I'm talking about. It's gonna be interesting
to see because two things can be true. Dan's like, okay,
his legacy, But if pick gonna be one of these
guys that we talk about like we do Random Mouse,
like we do Jared Rights, like we do Fitzgerald, like
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we do Calvin Johnson, And.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Listen the way he's playing right now, he possibly could.
He possibly could.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Okay, I know one thing.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Forget the conversation pieces. Those are cute.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
The legacy, Yeah, that's Q two, But you can't eat
with that, take no bills with that. It's it's great
when you're in the barber shop and we talk about
you know, we're talking football with the fellas.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, it's fine and dandy.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
It's a good thing. It's a great conversation piece. Yeah,
but that legacy, haven't making sure?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
What's your legacy?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
O Joe?
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Your last name?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
What you also?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Your last name Johnson? You got seven others last name Johnson.
Your legacy is what the hell you do for them
and how you leave them situated after you long gone.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
NFL legacy.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
My kids can't eat that, they can't go to private school,
on that, they can't go to college, on what I do,
what I did in the NFL. Hell, come on, my
legacy is what I've done for the name on the back,
Shannon Sharp. Yes, I played my ass off for the Broncos.
That's how they compensated me handsomely. I played my ass
off for the Ravens. They compensated me handsomely. But my
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last name. I got people that's depending on me, and
I need to put them in a better situation than
what my parents and grandparents can put me in.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
That is my legacy.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Hey, it ain't even Sunday boy, but you preach, you
hear me well, and you spend that hot fire.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
He Hey, give me, give me one, give me one
more verse, No, give.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
And the legacy, that's what I want my legacy to be. Yes,
I want my legacy to be How did Shannon shop?
What did Shannon Sharp do for his family? How did
he leave them situated? Shannon Sharp has been gone.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Twenty five years? Forty years?
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Man, in thirty five years, the ain't nobody gonna be
talking about who man?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Man?
Speaker 1 (26:56):
You remember three for the Cowboys? Nah, they gonna remember
George Picking's kids, the grandkids and great grandkids, like they
do the Rockefellers, like they do the Kennedys.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Now that's the legacy. That's a legacy. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a
good one.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
The fact, the fact of the vision and leaving the legacy,
and it's all being situated and surrounded by the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I love to look. I want I want the man
to do. I want everybody to get That's why I try.
I tell the players, look, be on your best behavior,
don't give him any money back.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Get all the money you.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Can, because there's a likelihood everybody ain't gonna be like
Tom Brady can make just as much money and retirement
as they did when they were playing. Tom making thirty.
Everybody ain't gonna be Tony Romo making nineteen. Everybody gonna
beat Troy Aitman. So the money that you make in
that period, that finite period of time, that's what's gonna
have to sustain you for the rest of perpetuity, for
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the rest of your life, the rest of your kids life,
your kids kids life.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
That's my legacy. That's what I want my legacy to be.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Fine if everybody like because a lot of people like, hey,
shut in Shark, you talk about the guy in podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
He played football a damn club shake club Sha Shane
shining Shark. Huh mm hmmm mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I got grandkids and ain't gonna have great grandkids. My
legacy is that I left them in a position better
that I was left in.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
So at some point in time, Oh Joe, we we
did what we did so we could stop. I didn't
want my kids to grow up like how I grew up.
I'm sure my mom didn't want me to grow up
like she grew up. Got some of it, not all
of it, but I got somebody need to have to
pick cot. That's my legacy, Dans. I'm not saying that
you're wrong, but I just remember when you got your money,
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you got all of it. Yeah, and for a team
million use the highest paid. You didn't say you know what, Jerry,
Hey Jay, break me a you know what. If I'm
not mistaken, it was five years, it was four years,
five years, seventy mail my thirty something guarantee that I
don't really count your pockets.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
But I'm saying you didn't say you know what.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I want to stay in Dallas really really bad, because
my legacy means more in Dallas than it would somewhere else.
You say, Yeah, give me every dime that I've earned,
not that I deserve that I've earned.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
See, people like you don't get what you earn. You
don't get what you deserve. You get what you earned. Yeah,
Hen and Daz earned that contract.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Y'all.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Remember Deaves was got that Dad's sixteen touchdown. Den was
housing it. Den was taking shall across this piece of
folks out out fifty to fifty ball was ninety.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Ten deads every time. The real deal. Hey, and listen,
don't let him hit the end zone because you know
he know he gonna hit you with. Yes, yeah, a
real deal.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
But but listen, is just based on Jerry Jones, based
on the way he's handled other players that were at
whatever elead at their position, especially when they came the
time to pay him, and drawing things out wait until
the very last minute, having issues, making it a circus,
not taking care of the player, not putting the player first,
but having his own agenda and way of doing things.
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I just don't I meet personally. I don't want that
for pickings. He's done enough, he showed in true value.
Now there's a team that's not gonna play games, that's
not going to make a circus that's not going to
make them make a mistraining camp or make them hold
out that are going to give him the true value
and what he can do on the.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Field, and it should it should be superior.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Top number one money, and I just don't think he
can get that at the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, I like Joe.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
If the numbers are closed, let's just say the Cowboys
say we got thirty two million for you and another
team got thirty four million. I will stay with Dallas
because guess what, I'm gonna save it in state tax.
Ain't no state tax. Yeah, going somewhere else. Let's just
say you have to go now if the other team
I go to Las Vegas Raiders. Now the question is
Ocho the question? And we see this with Miles Garrett
(31:07):
got paid having an unbelievable season, but he losing. How
well can you do because you see we see a
lot of guys that's losing, Oyo making a lot of money.
They ain't happy. Yeah, boy, it's sucks going out there
in the cold, yeah, like and getting your eyes beat.
Then you have to check is a nice one they
hit direct deposit. But as a competitor, you do what
you do in order to give yourself a chance to win.
(31:30):
And it sucks knowing that I go out there. You
know what, man, I ain't really got no chance to leave, you.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Know, I don't. I know it was a hypothetical. I
don't even like them numbers you called out as an example.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
No, I'm just I'm just saying, I just I just
threw out a number. Yeah, I'll look the way the
way it is now, it's gonna be, it's gonna be.
It's probably gonna be North for thirty five.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Million, because.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Who was it, Jettis that deal two years ago? So
we're gonna be three years coming in. No, we can't
look and I get it. I don't want to hear
what this is an outlined contract because they did this
for the longest time with defensive players, Whening, Dominican, Sue
signed his number, his big contract. They're talking about this
was an outlier. I don't know nothing about no outlier.
I don't know about no pup flyers. I don't know
nothing about no outlier. I know you a damn liar.
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If you think I would take this bull jive contract,
that's what I would tell them. So but so Ojoe
here's the cowboys remaining schedule. They got the Eagles on Sunday,
they got the Chiefs on Thanksgiving, and they're at the Lions.
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They got the Vikings at home, Chargers at home on
the road. That the Commanders on the road against the Giants.
So the next four, the next game, Eagles, Chiefs, Lions, Vikings, Chargers.
That's the next five. And the best part about it,
O Joe, Yes, sorry for the fire at home.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Hey, that's that's a great thing. But the bad thing
about it is, now the Cowboys look good today, huh.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
But they weren't. They weren't playing a competent team.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
They weren't playing a common team that's good on offense
or comedy team that's good on defense.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Right, most of the teams on that schedule on one
side of the ball, they're really, really, really good. They're
really good.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Yeah, So they gonna have they they gonna listen, they're
gonna have it. They're gonna have it. They're gonna have
some fits. They're gonna have some fits. Now offense, this.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Game, this game Sunday, is gonna tell us a lot.
He gonna tell us a lot because you know, the Eagles,
the eagle. A how that they got Jalen Phillips and
you got other people on the office that defensive line
to worry about. You got you got Davis, and you
got Carter, and you gotta think hunt. I think ninety
seid what's the ninety seven for the eagle?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
What's his name?
Speaker 1 (33:55):
They got him on the other side on your They
got people you gotta worry about.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
It's gonna be here.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
So it's because probably what's gonna happen. Mitchell would take
pick Degene because what you call them lines up mainland
the slot CD. He'll probably deal with CD. That's probably
that's how they kind of played it last time, right
or Joe Mo that's ninety something of the eagles. They
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got another dude that was uh is it ninety six?
That was back down passes last night? Oh okay, but
uh but they Hey, they're gonna get some work. And
the lions. Now here's the thing. You get the lions
in that building, they get them on turf, you get
them in in the closed environment, a controlled environment.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
O Joe. The temperature is seventy two degrees. Yeah, the
footing is solid.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
And then listen, there's a good chance they won't look
the way they did against them, goddamn Eagles.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
No, no, absolutely not, absolutely not. I do not expect
them to look like they did against the Eagles. So
right now, the National Football Conference, here are the seven
teams if the playoffs were to end the day that
would be in the playoffs. The Eagles would be the
number one overall seed, followed by the Rams, the Bears,
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the Bucks, the Seahawks, the Packers, the forty nine Ers,
Detroit Carolina Cowboys, and Minnesota would be on the outside
looking in. But there's seven games left to play and
guess what. Now, you play your way into the playoffs.
This is where you play your way into the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Oh Joe, Jamar Chase, we had this conversation last night.
Jamar Chase was suspended one game. The one game suspension
will cost him over half a million dollars four hundred
forty eight three hundred and thirty three dollars in a
game check and fifty eight eight to twenty four in
an active roster bonus. Chase plans to appeal and argue
this one game suspension, claiming that if it was going
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to spin on Jalen Ramsey he would have spit in
his face and not on the man jersey the ground.
Oh Joe, Oh Joe, that's not come on, I mean,
come on, Chase.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
He didn't even talk to the media.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
That's what in Rappaport said, is that he said if
he was going to spit on Jalen Ramsey, he would
have spinned in his face and not on the jersey.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Of the ground.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah. I don't think he said that because he declined
to talk to the media.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
He declined to talk to everybody today obviously, you know,
once you get out of watching film on Monday's he
declined to.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
I guess his team put that out. But anyway, Uh,
I don't know how. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
But first of all, you said you didn't spit, So
whether you was spitting on the ground or you would
have did X, Y and Z, you said you didn't spit.
That's what you said. You said that after the game.
Now all that, Oh Joe, you know they shoot everything, man,
you know they shoot everything. Ok, and you could actually
see it, Yeah, yeah, you could. You could see pimbles
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on the booty.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
From the moon. That's how good the cameras are. Oh cho, yeah, yeah,
absolutely Chase appeal it.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
But I mean, I just think you should, you know,
call Ram and say, bro, I'm sorry, my mootion's got
the best of me, and leave, and and and and
because this one incident, this is not you.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
I don't believe this is you.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I'm surprised that we're actually having not having this conversation
and you're the topic of the conversation because you're ensnared
in this. I wouldn't believed it. If you, you would
have been the very last person they said, a receiver.
I probably there are some other names I might have
would have went to, but I wouldn't have been I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't have put that. I wouldn't have
put that on you.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
So I hope, I hope that's what I Rappaport said,
he said, his team said, or he said, I don't
believe it. I'm gonna I'm gonna say, let's just say,
but for the sake of but you did spit on him,
Whether you would have what you would have done, You
spit on the man, and UH, it's gonna cost you,
but you'll learn from it.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
I don't believe this is the type of person that
you are.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
We've all done things that we're not the It's not
our finest moment, and don't I don't think this moment
should define Jamar Chase. They're gonna be There're gonna be
a lot of other moments that we can look back
and define Jamar Chase with This is not gonna be
your defining moment. But the best, the best apology with
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your is change behavior. Don't let something like this happen again,
and we're gonna be good.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
The funny thing about it, when we talk about Jane,
when we talk about change behavior from the players, I'm
not just speaking on Jamar Chase in general. The change
behavior most of the time.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
You know, he gonna make you forget about it on
the field, Yes, gonna make you forget about it on
the field.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
And we never had problems out of Chase off the
field anyway.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
No, you don't have a problem from it.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
So when when you when you think about hypothetical, if
this scenario or this situation never happened, and he just
thought of some players that that that would come from,
it wouldn't come from him because he's one who causes
no problems.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
The problem because is on the field Bucker's Hell, that's it.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
That's why. That's why I struggle. That's why you struggle
because you know him better than I do. And there
was never any indication he's so laid back. He's so
much if you watch it when it does an interview,
he's sitting back.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
He chilled, He's sitting back like this here all the time. Yeah,
So he and a.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Little bit that I've been around him. I've been around
him a couple of times during the autograph signing. I
saw him at the Super Bowl. He's a chill guy.
He's not one of these high strung guys that you
know best liable to go off. He's really mild mannered.
So that's why it's so surprising. But you know, look,
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like I said, you know, this season was supposed to
be different. They missed the playoffs last year. He had
the Triple Crown. He's the first triple Crown, said, my
brother to win that and not make the playoffs. My
brother won the Triple Crowd in ninety two. They didn't
make the playoffs. Yeah, he won the Triple Crowd in
twenty four. They didn't sold almost thirty almost well over
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thirty years. So it doesn't happen often because there's not
a whole lot of people that win the Triple Crown.
It's hard, so you gotta have you gotta have the
most catches, yards and touchdowns versus everybody, not just the NFC,
but the AFC as well. Sometimes you can have yards,
sometimes you can have catches, and then somebody nips you
with touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
He had both.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
It's kind of like winning the Triple Crown in baseball.
Yeah yeah, you could have a three eighty batan average,
but you got forty home runs and somebody got fifty
or somebody drives in one hundred and thirty five. That's
why it doesn't happen that often. Mickey Cabaro was the
last one, and then you gotta go all the way
back to Yazz.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Call you scrimsky okay, okay, yeah, and they say who okay.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah, so or the same thing in horse racing, you know,
ay you might win that first two with that mile
and a half at the bailmarks.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
That's that's hell boy.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
If you notice not.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
A lot of horses just like, hey, forget it, then
you stay they like, I don't even worry about it.
We win to Kentucky Derby. We'll skip the Preakness. We'll
see you at the Belmont, right. I mean, it was
such a long time. And then, I mean, because everybody
thought it was easy. You get Secretary in seventy three,
and then you get Seattle Salu in a firm and
back to back year seventy seven, seventy eight, and then
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it's like, well, it's it's too hard, it's too hard,
it's too hard. And then you get American fayroh do it,
and then you come back with justified Bob Baffort two horses.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Yeah, it's hard, it's hard.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
You probably had more Triple Crown winners in baseball than
you have horse racing.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
M but uh, and that's that's difficult.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
And you been to the Kentucky Derby before.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
I beeno, we got a it's all of it's all
about the hat. Yes, for a man and a woman,
it's all about I've seen women come with some hat
and be barefooted, be bare barefooted. Yeah, yeah, I'm talking
because normally, I don't know, for some reason, it normally rains. Yeah,
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but the lady have these hats. I mean one lady
had a hat. I mean this this hat was way
out here like this here.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
You know, your boy, we had the hand of here.
He was at the sharp U huh you a sharp.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
If a fly little if a fly would the landed
you try to cut his throat? Do you see you
messing me up? You're messing up the ensemble. Yeah, I'm
a clean ojo.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I haven't been there a few times obviously.
When I was in Cincinnati, is right, it is right
down the street right.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
As a matter of fact, Hell, I flew into Cincinnati
and drove over down Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Yeah, the street man, it's a great event. I only
did it one time. You know, I'm I'm not in
that kind of That's that's where I met. I met.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I met Bob Bafford, him and his son at the time.
I met a rest his soul. I think d Wayne Lucas. Uh,
I met a couple of them.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah, it's crazy, It's grazy. It's awesome sports.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
It's unbelievable, Joe, because it was. It's on my bucket list.
You know, I've been to a World Series Obbicer, I've
been to a Super Bowl. Uh, the Kentucky Derby. I
want to do Daytona five hundred. I went to I
want to do webbled up.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
Do me, do me, do me a favor, to give
yourself some justice. So you can understand the experience when
you go to the Daytona five hundred.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Do not let them put you in a suite. You
need to sit in the stand so you can get.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
The ride that track.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
Yes, you've got to be able to experience it. You
got to feel those cars coming around. You know, the energy,
the aura, the stands, you got the man, it's.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
It's crazy, man, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
I mean, it's something about when you feel when you
feel eight hundred horsepower, it's forty two of those cars
and they going one hundred and eighty, one hundred and
ninety miles an hour, and they're this close, they're this close,
and those cars are damn near upside down.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Mm hmm. Unbelievable. Hey boy, hey hey, would they be
a they bump draft.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
That's a rested soulda terminator Dale Earnhardt boom boom sling.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Shot down in the back.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Man, I got to see that. When I got to
see that, I want to see where amen. Because I
went to see I saw the US Open, I saw Serena. Uh,
she just got married to Uh a couple of years
ago to David Lee. She Uh the Dane, the tennis player.
She married David Leader, basketball player. I saw her and
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Serena play a semifinal at the US Open on a
Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
What's her name, Naki? Yep, she married David Lee.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
I think they got a couple of kids, because I
saw them in I just saw them in Vegas maybe
for the Super Bowl. Uh, David Lee, Michael Phelps and
his wife and it was David Lee and Wolves in Nyaki.
Speaker 7 (45:15):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
But man, oh Joe, I got it.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
I got it.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Huh.
Speaker 5 (45:20):
Look at your boy, Hey boy, you clean?
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Man?
Speaker 2 (45:28):
I see you, Okay, you clean? Look I pulled out.
I was in the hurry all right. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
It's April, oh Joe. We might have to jump down there. Clubs,
I mean a night camp. Might have to go on
the road at the Derby.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Hey, you listen, not get my hat ready right now?
Don't don't.
Speaker 5 (45:48):
Hey, can you know when it when it comes to
putting putting them things on, and I put that, I
put that, I put that, you know what on that?
Speaker 2 (45:54):
I'm ready? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
We we better have to go and do a little something,
do something.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Speaking to speaking horses in Kentucky Derby. My daughter, My
daughter chat. She plays tennis. She's phenomenal.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
She's yeah, phenomenal, and she loves horses. I love she said,
I'm gonna blame my mama. I'm gonna blame my mama.
We went riding horses this past weekend, a weekend before last.
She asked me all about types of horses and telling
me about saddles, and I'm like, man.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
What in the world you learn all that stuff? Man'sd about?
She's really into it. So I'm like, okay, okay, cool, okay,
being in your pockets too, hey listen. So as soon
as we finished riding, you know, the first thing Christmas
coming up. So the first thing I do, I'm aving.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
Talking to the lady we on the trail were riding,
asked the train, I say, you know what horses run?
Speaker 2 (46:43):
How much they cost? Okay, one thousand and fifteen hundred
some simple bed?
Speaker 3 (46:48):
Please?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
You know I ain't getting I ain't getting nothing too expensive? Now,
you know, she she's young. Now, So I'm like, okay,
what about boarding? What about feeding? They have places? Do
they have places out there?
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (46:58):
That's where you spending the money, you know.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
They have bored It's like, yeah, that's horse, there's boreding.
So I asked her, I say, well, listen, I'm leaving
information and you know, send it to me and the
numbers and what it costs.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
A weekly, monthly and for the year.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
And I'm thinking about, you know, getting my daught I'm
thinking about geting a passio. I don't want none too big,
I want some a little smaller. The rider's smooth and
a pasta fino would be perfect for her. Yeah, I'm
just curious. I'm kind of excited. I'm kind of excited
for her because she loved them so much, and I
think that would be one of the best rest surprises
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for one of one of my eighty five on Christmas morning.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
The thing, Joe, is that, yeah, you get a horse
for a decent price. You probably spend fifteen hundred maybe
five thousand dollars what you.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Got to put into it completely different and eat it. Yes, yeah,
but see.
Speaker 5 (47:53):
And to also you had to understand where I live
in Miami out that way, you know, because I'm further
out up north in west a little bit.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Ain't nothing out there but horses and stables, that's it.
And when you think Miami, you think South Beats, you know,
all the nice stuff. But I'm out there. I don't
even know what you want to call it. You know,
you go to Walmart, you.
Speaker 5 (48:12):
Go to Target, and when you're driving, it's people riding
horses up and down the street like we in God
Damn Texas.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I said, yeah, that's I'm serious. That's how far out
I am from everybody?
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Right, Oh, Joe Mary kay Cabot when she reports all
things Browns, Ye listen. George Sanders is expected to start
Sunday in the game against the Las Vegas Raiders with
Dylan Gabriel in concussion protocol. Barring something unexpected, Sanders will
make his starting debut, becoming the forty second different quarterback
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to start for the Browns since nineteen ninety nine. Kevin
Stefanski was asked today if he changed anything how reps
were divided up among quarterbacks. Let's take a listen to
what he had to say.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Would you have changed anything about the approach about how
you divide it up the first team reps from training
camp to now? Yeah, I understand the question. Cam.
Speaker 6 (49:05):
I think it's important that you do what you think
is right for a football team. The development of our
players is constant. It doesn't happen just in one drill
or in one practice or one meeting. So we trust
our guys, we trust our backup players to be ready
to go.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
And should Door is ready to go.
Speaker 6 (49:25):
Obviously, I know he wants to play better, I want
to coach better, all those type of things.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
But that just comes.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
That'll come through work. That's where it will come.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
I like it. I like what he says said. I
like what he just said. He contradicted himself a little bit.
Speaker 5 (49:41):
The key word that he just said develop develop. The
only ways to develop is to get the reps. Yes,
just in case you need to be you need to
develop in just in case scenarios with those you're going
to play with on Sundays.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
That's how you develop.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
If you have a if you've got to offer the period,
you got seven oh seven, you got twenty plays, five
of the plays have to go for.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Number two, just in case.
Speaker 5 (50:05):
If you got team period and you got another twenty plays,
the fifteen plays, five of those plays, maybe that's a
little bit much.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
If you got fifteen at least three, yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
Ten to twelve everywhere.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
I'm not saying some people might have had that, but
we never went more than twelve plays a period.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah, some some maybe the last goal line was goal line.
Speaker 4 (50:23):
Wasn't that many. You probably had about four or five
plays on gold line.
Speaker 5 (50:26):
Yeah, but those those situations towards the end of towards
the end of the plays on that in that period,
they need to go, you know, to your backup quarterback.
You know, that's how you develop, That's how you make
sure you ready just in case something happens until your
number one quarterback.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
That's what they didn't do.
Speaker 5 (50:41):
And a lot of people, you know, making fun of
Oh sure he said he'll be ready, or he said
he could play.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Listen, I don't care who you are. If you don't
get reps with the number ones. It's not like a
plug and play and all of a sudden you go
out there and you're gonna change things. They already need help.
Speaker 5 (50:58):
They already need help as it is offensively, you know,
and service. So the thing he could have come in
there and be all world without actually practicing with the ones.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Come on, man, it's the NFL. Man, come on, stop that.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
I think the thing is.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Look, I've heard a lot of people say, well, look
I've only been to two places and the backup got reps.
Especially because here I was in Baltimore. Trent Differ was
our backup. Trent Differ was the number four pick in
the draft, right, and guess what he got reps? Backing
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up Tony Banks. Tony was the starter. He Another example,
my next year, Elvis Girl back was the starter. Randall
cunning had was the backup. Randall got reps. Randall had
been a starter with the Eagles, been to the Pro Bowl,
went to the Pro Bowl with the Minnesota He got reps.
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So we got two veteran guys. That's taking reps, right,
But this you know, you're not gonna give this guy
any reps, and then you expect it. And then somebody said,
Tom Moore said, Peyton Manning took all the reps. Ain't
nobody getting no reps. When Peyton Manning got hurt and
nobody had taken no reps, asked Tom Moore, what happened
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to the whole staff.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
From the general manager down got fired? You know why?
Because the guy had taken no reps. Right, it wasn't ready, and.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
It wasn't ready, and everybody got fired. Yeah, and guess
what happened.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
To fancy.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
Don't got to worry about that because the person who
wants to do the firing came out publicly and said,
this is my pick.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
This is not who I wanted.
Speaker 4 (52:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
True. So for me, I just like I said, I'm
not saying, Look, I'm not saying.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
You get a guy, he's a backup, and you got
a rookie quarterback. But it's hard for me to see
a scenario because I always thought it was funny because
they say, well, he's not he's not even running the
scout team.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
What's the guy?
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Bailey Zappi? He came from somewhere else and was getting
me and got jumped in over your door. I said,
so what we supposed to what are we supposed to do?
Speaker 4 (53:12):
From that?
Speaker 2 (53:15):
It's just hard.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
I just couldn't imagine it would be hard for me
to go into a game in which I took no
reps and I'm out there with Ed and Rod and
John and TD. And it was hard enough being a
young player and you getting a couple of reps. Everything
is happening so fast. You gotta remember, Okay, I got
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this route now, but if this guy comes, I'm hot.
But no, it's this protection. So instead of taking one,
it's gonna take two because the back's gonna stay in
and take one. So if the other guy comes now
I'm hot. You gotta remember all that. But I gotta
get in and out of his break too, cause John
ain't got all day. This ain't seven o seven now,
and they can't below no whistle, the whistle when he
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picked his an off off the ground.
Speaker 5 (54:04):
You know the one thing I hate to which is
very hard for a rookie. Not only are you not
getting reps in practice, forget that part. Practice is slow. Yeah,
for sure, practice is slow.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
When you get into the game and everything speeds up.
Speaker 5 (54:18):
Everything, it's crazy. It's crazy, and it could be. Oh,
it can almost be shocking to you when you get
in there with the number ones. This ain't the goddamn preseason,
I'm for you. It's the best of the best, the
best that they had to give you. And when you
don't have those repords with those reps or the officer
line likes like one of the linemen came out and said,
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I wasn't wasn't used to us cadence.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
It is different.
Speaker 4 (54:43):
That's very important to an offensive lineman.
Speaker 5 (54:44):
Though, Garry So, I mean, listen, if I saw the reports,
I think Shoudor would be starting this week. So he
has a week under his belt to get himself ready,
to get himself prepared. And now the offense could be
predicated and the play call and could be predicated.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
To his strengths and what he does.
Speaker 5 (55:02):
Well, uh, knowing him what the type of player is,
I think they're gonna throw the ball much more and
and lean on brother brother Jenkins too, you know, to
run the ball when when they need to.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
And when they want to.
Speaker 5 (55:15):
Judkins, Yeah, Junkins, Junkin. I'm sorry, I'm sorry what I said, Jenkins.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
Yeah, my bad, Juggins. I think the thing is Ojoe
that he will push the ball down the field. That's
how you get you produce points. You like, you got
to push the ball down the field. Because I'm not
saying just arbitrary, just throw them all up and just hope.
But I'm saying they're they're they're they normally called something
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to the flat, something something made and something deep.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
Yeah oh Yoe.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
Also, Saduur house was broken into last night during last
night's game. According to Mortal reports, it's unclear if anything
was stolen during the break in, and the suspects haven't
been identified, but it marked the latest instant instance of
athletes homes getting burglarized while they're playing or what. You know,
they know when basketball players are not going to be home.
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They know, hey, man, that's your do house. Man, he
played the game, he ain't home. I mean, it'd be
tough for your having that, having the type of you know,
you come in the game, you're excited, you don't play
as well as your hope, and then you get home
and it's the ultimate violation.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
It is.
Speaker 4 (56:29):
I don't know if you've ever had your house broken into,
but I had mind broken into.
Speaker 2 (56:33):
Oh yeah, yeah, you told me they stole some stuff
that yeah, watches.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
It was a lot of sentiment because the thing was,
it was like it had a lot of sentimental value.
O y'all because the watches that I had is that
they were meticulous. I had to wait a year, had
to wait three years. I had to wait four years
before I was able to save up and get the watch.
So it meant a little bit more to me than
the watches I was able to get to replace them.
Uh my eighty four chain that my brother gave me, Yes, sir,
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I had a medallion with uh all my kids name
on it a dog tag, so it was one big
k and then all the kids name they got that
uh my cuff links. So it's a it's a it's
an ultimate, but it's uh, it's you feel betrayed, you like,
that's one of the That's one of the reasons when
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I wanted to move also because I was like, man,
I can't because that never happened.
Speaker 4 (57:30):
But it never happened.
Speaker 1 (57:31):
I remember the times I would, you know, I would
walk the dogs and I would leave the door a lock,
and just this one time, I was going for about
an hour and come back in an hour.
Speaker 4 (57:41):
That's it. I was going for about an hour.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
God damn.
Speaker 4 (57:44):
Yeah, you see you know what?
Speaker 2 (57:47):
You know what? You know why I think nobody has
ever ever robbed me? I can I tell you why?
What if I always preached about since I've been in
the leagues in two thousand and one and nothing and nothing.
I'm wearing what, yeah, earrings, chains? Why? Nothing? Ain't nothing
that real? So what you're coming to my house? Fum
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mad as hell?
Speaker 5 (58:09):
You know that's something I've always always prets, you know,
over and over and over and you know now now
it's a little different. Now it's a little different because
you know, I was able to set aside enough to
now I can treat myself, I can enjoy myself and
and you know, and you know, get a little get
a little bit out of character when it comes to
the fruits of my labor and enjoy it a little
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bit more.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
But I never had any issues like that.
Speaker 4 (58:34):
Yeah, it was. I mean I've heard of people like
it happened.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
You know, like, man, they say, Shanny, you just feel
so violated the freedom and the independence that you felt
that you thought you had. It's it's never gonna be
the same, and it's not. You know, you become very
very very skeptical. Uh, and you know you just don't
want to trust God.
Speaker 2 (58:59):
Damn. Yeah, think about that. What you were going for
an hour?
Speaker 4 (59:02):
I was going for an hour.
Speaker 2 (59:04):
Yeah, and it had to be somebody, you know, man,
God leave man. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (59:09):
Well, I think the thing is baby, they were look,
they were just I don't know, but that was that
was the hardest part.
Speaker 6 (59:17):
Man.
Speaker 4 (59:17):
It's just like the stuff that they stole. Man.
Speaker 1 (59:19):
I had worked so hard, I mean from ninety from
I think my brother gave me my first Rolex when
I graduated college. Uh, so I started getting Rolexes, the
one that old boy gave back to me when I
went back in and said partly, let me get that
right there.
Speaker 4 (59:36):
I had to trade that in on something else. Yeah,
that right there.
Speaker 2 (59:42):
You had a Rolex in college.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
Once I graduated, God damns I graduate. Once I graduated college,
my brother bought me, got me a Rolex. I'll never
forget Oyster Flex band, two tone, stainless steel and gold.
Speaker 4 (59:57):
Uh, I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Yeah, that's live bad, you know man, it's it's uh.
You ever had one of these? What's that? What is
a Cassio nineteen eighty three? Noya? I had?
Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
They used to have the digital you remember you?
Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
What do you?
Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Were? You old enough to We watched what they had
the digital watch craze. Yeah, when you squeeze, you squeeze
it at it light up? Yes? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's so funny. It's so funny. I got I still
got my old gold, my gold, my gold Cassio. I
got calculated to watch. I got this, uh this nineteen
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eighty three Cassio.
Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
Yeah, but what else?
Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
I got one more Casio watch that's all black. I'm
talking about classic back in the days. You know when
you when you go to school and you have.
Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Math class and yeah, test you be able to use
you be able to use it to cheeta?
Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know exactly
what you're talking about. Uh, they got that. I had
a an a P of Lebron. They did a Lebron
did an a P the leather scrap it was gray
six hundred.
Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
I'll never forget walked in. I mean I had to
go through jump through hula hoops.
Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
I feel like, uh to get that watch from the
API because I didn't have a I didn't have a
purchasing history. You know, everybody wants you to have a
purchasing history.
Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Yeah, I hate I hate that.
Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
Matter of fact, I hate that with uh Richard Milly
Richard meeting, don't you gotta haves forget.
Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Charon apjor Hey, I'm like, sir, excuse me, yeah, huh sir,
Come on, man.
Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Same thing with Maz. You ain't Finn just walking up
the street and get no bad.
Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
See the thing with Maz already had a purchase history.
So with them, I get I'm able to.
Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Really, you don't say oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
I got a purchase history with a mass way back
from like eleven years ago. You know what, y'all don't
find chat, y'all, don't find that, y'all don't find that odd? Huh.
Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
This man got a person in history with pat Tag
and m and Odamars Paget and Reshard me the.
Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Only onlyard earth man's vacheron.
Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
You listen, noughted, and I can't get my bread chat, y'all,
don't find that a little bit, y'all, don't find that
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute. I said,
I got your money. No no, no, no, no, no,
no no no.
Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
I need you to put it in my pocket so
I can have my money.
Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
I said, that's that.
Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
You know what you keep You keep pressing me about
this money. And the funny thing about it, I was
trying to make it a Christmas gift for you.
Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
How you gonna make my money on Christmas gift? Ain't
no damn gift. You got my money and give me
my gift? You give me chat?
Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
How that man chat?
Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Y'all need to make that make sense? This man gonna
give me my money. It's say it's a Christmas gift.
Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
Yeah, that I wanted to feel like a gift because listen,
Christmas is all about giving, so that is the perfect
time to give you your money back on Christmas.
Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Chat, y'all ever had that help in chat? Somebody gave
you something that's yours as a gift.
Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
Hey, let me you know what my grandma always said,
anytime you lend money out or you bet money.
Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
You should, you should, you should. You should be able
to have enough to be able to withstand. I ain't
got it.
Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
I did, but there was.
Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Some extreinguating circumstances. It took plate.
Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
I ain't got it no more. I ain't got it
like I would have had it. So I need that
figured out. Hunterd come and hand it and do something
to do something for.
Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Let me tell you something. Even even though so we
we've all had our trials and tribulations. We all had up,
so we had our downs, we've.
Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
All had the peaks. We've been to the valley, through
the highs and the loads. One thing about God, that
God is a good God.
Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Huh. Absolutely, and listen and what they take it, he
can't replenish. The Funny thing about it is gonna happen
when you at least expect it. You can be like, man,
what the hell? And this just I'm telling you. Let
me tell you how the man work.
Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
I know how I believe it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Yeah, okay, because I'm I'm I'm a living I'm I'm
a living witness.
Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
The only thing else, o Joe, is that he waked
me up every day.
Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
He give me life. I got breath of my lungs.
Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
You good.
Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
My grandfather used to always tell my brother and I,
he said, if I take you somewhere, I expect you
to go, I expect you to be able to get
back here.
Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
I take that same approach. If I made it once,
I can make it again.
Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Yeah. Absolutely, Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Now they say with interest that fifty nine hundred and
sixty seven sixty seven what sixty seven hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Your air American usd well, hold on, but what kind
of what you were?
Speaker 6 (01:04:56):
You?
Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Acting like you? Acting like Trump with the terrorists? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Yeah, and guess who pay for the tariffs.
Speaker 6 (01:05:03):
We do?
Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
I ain't got it.
Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
I ain't got it six sixty seven hundred. But that yeah,
that going in the chest support man French Frankle baby,
they have no Christmas me.
Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
I mean you know my kids. I mean grandkids. They won't,
you know, won't cars and iPads.
Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
And I was like, well, hold on.
Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
If I pay you sixty seven hundred, how my kids
gonna have a Christmas? Hold on, forget that. How I'm
gonna have Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
I mean you got me.
Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
I'm gonna have to go down to the shelter. I
heard they have a good meal down at the shelter.
Nobody no good trouble lives sixty seven.
Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
I got listen.
Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
I gotta get my kids Christmas gifts. I gotta get
my woman. I got to get her, you know, her
gifts and what she want, you know, like I got
you though.
Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Hey, I told you, I say this year a leap year.
December twenty fifth. Yeah, yeah, we skip it over. We're
going to I'll see you next year. You don't supposed
to happen if it's supposed to be February to Twitter
night the sim A twenty fifth.
Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
We're gonna move right on over. I get you next year.
Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Hey, that's funny, oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Before we move on, let's take a listen to the
classic response to doing half of the Browns fan bulling
Dylan Gabriel last night.
Speaker 7 (01:06:19):
Listen, I'm extremely thankful. Well, first, let me say this,
when dealing out there, planning and all that, I appreciate
the fans, I appreciate everybody, but.
Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
It don't it don't really.
Speaker 7 (01:06:33):
I'm a good person overall, So I don't really like
I'm not feeling comfortable confident, you know when you get
out there, so you know, it puts, it puts everything
in a tough spot, you know, when it's not helping
the team, you know, So that could be taken that
as Okay, I'm being a distraction even though I ain't
doing nothing. You know, I'm not doing nothing. But I'm
(01:06:55):
thankful for the support. It's thankful for the fans, thank
you for everybody out there, you know, to believe. And yeah,
when I got out there, I definitely felt them, and
you know, I'm truly thankful for it. And yeah, I'm
just thankful that I'm out here, you know, I'm thankful
for the opportunity, thankful seeing all them twelve jerseys out
(01:07:17):
there and feels a great feeling.
Speaker 5 (01:07:22):
That's that's something you can't get out yea. Listen, no
matter what you say, that's something that you can't control.
Those fans in Cleveland have had to deal with quarterback woles.
But who knows how long you know, I'm not sure
how many years it's been. And when things aren't going well,
they fin the boot. It doesn't matter who you are.
They don't care that it makes you uncomfortable. They don't
care that that that if you're playing bad, they do
(01:07:45):
not care. They've been going through it for a very
long time. They've been going through it longer than you've
been alive.
Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Sure need to understand that.
Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
So when a quarterback does come in there, they were expecting,
they were expecting something different than what they've always seen
year after the year after year after year, and that
that just has gonna be. They've been dealing with it
for a long time, so you got to understand that
and why they're going. You know, they're not going just
for what's going on right now. They're going for all
(01:08:13):
the years it ain't been right too.
Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Yep, you're right about that, And uh, look a lot
of it and I'm sure you know obviously you you
buo players, but a lot of this has to do
with his dad. A lot of it has to do
with the dislike that they have for his dad. And
they couldn't do his dad because his dad was so great.
So the vitriol that we had towards his dad that
(01:08:38):
we couldn't give to his dad, we're gonna take that
out on his kid. And uh but I thought he
handled that situation. And like you know, like you said,
he can't control what the fans do. Uh yeah, he'll
appreciate this love and support that they've given him. But
I can't control what you know, grown women, grown men
(01:08:59):
and women, many children, Uh boyn and and and carrying
on and saying, So it's tough. It's it's it's it's really,
it's it's it's it's a tough position to be in.
I don't I it, I don't. I don't enmity young man.
Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
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you just saw beat down. Just happened. The Cowboys beat
the Raiders by the score of thirty three to sixteen.
George Pickins and CD Lamb spent Dallas opening series on
the bench coach's decision, reportedly violating team rules. We'll get
to that in a minute. But the Cowboys run their
record to four to five and one, so there's seven
games left, O Joe. The Raiders fall to two and eight.
No surprise there. Dak was sensational tonight twenty five and
(03:13):
thirty three, two sixty eight, four touchdown, zero interceptions. He
did have the strip sack fumble. Javonte Williams ran the
ball twenty two times for ninety three yards. They had
thirty one rush attempts one hundred and fourteen yards. George
Pickins led to charge nine carries for a buck forty
four in a touchdown. Seed He had five for sixty
six and a touchdown, and Jake Ferguson had four for
(03:34):
sixteen and a touchdown. Ceed's kicking himself. I mean, Dak
could have throw him a better ball he had Dak
had he sped himself up more than what he needed
to Seed.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
He know, he like he gotta make that catch.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Gino twenty seven and forty two to two thirty eight,
one touchdown, won an exception. The running game was terrible.
The offensive line is terrible. A center if god off,
I don't I don't like to say this, but y'all
saw it. How many safety how many sacks did he
give up? He's just he was just overmatched and oh
joll this is not you know, hindsight. Ashton Genty was
(04:09):
is a good player, but he's not the sixth pick
in the draft because you got too many more.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
You take that guy, you got everything you need.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
But if you got everything you need, guess you're not
picking sixth in the draft. He's not Ladonian Tomlinson, he's
not Adrian Peterson, sir. But you rewarded him as if
he was one of those transformational running backs.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
He's not.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I mean, I mean when when you watch him play,
when you watch him play in college, obviously, what he
was able to do at Boise at Boise State, it was,
it was phenomenal. He had a phenomenal season. But then
you take into account.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
You know, you stepped up in competition.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Ye yeah, I hate saying that.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
I hate saying that, but you have to take that
into account and what he was able to do against them.
I think he played, he played against Penn State, and
he he you know, he did fairly well. But it's
much different as opposed to coming into the NFL and
and and using that as an assessment in him being
able to have success at this level, especially when you
go to a team that is that is as bad
(05:10):
as the raders are, you have to be that much
more special as they running back. You have to be
one of those one of those generational talents.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You need to be Barrys Sanders there you.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Go to be able to to be able to overshadow
how bad they are.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
He's not Barry Sanders, he's not Ladanian, he's not a
he's not a Peterson, he's not that. He's not Say Kwan.
He's not one of those transformational backs.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
O yo, and go ahead, go ahead. He's good.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Yeah, he's good.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Good.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
He's just not he's not them, and he's not good
enough to overcome how bad the raiders are.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Let's thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
And when you need multiple things, Hey, oh Joe, I
got a house. You know in the house, ain't that
s fiffy? I don't need to spend thirty five thousand
dollars on the couch. I ain't got no refrigerator, ain't
got no microwave, I ain't got no stove. I ain't
got no bedroom furniture. I ain't got no living room furniture.
I just got a thirty five thousand dollar couch. I
ain't got no TVs. They needed too much to spend
(06:10):
that pick on that guy. You needed a quarterback to
be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
No he listen, they got a quarterback. They just ain't
got they ain't got much to work with.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Ye I mean he got a quarterback? Who the Raiders
man stopping?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Oh joe?
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Okay, anyway, listen another for better context, for better context
for those that are watching, I want you to think
about Adrian Peterson. Once you think about Adrian Peterson when
he was with the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yes, they didn't have much.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
On No, but he ain't Peterson.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I know. I'm just giving people context.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Oh okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I see what
you're saying.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
To be able to affect the Raiders and and and
have them going in the positive light despite them having
so many missing pieces, to be able to make a difference,
you would have to be like an Adrian Peterson. Yes,
but but he's just not that very very good player.
No disrespect to young Bull, but he just.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Let me ask your question. You think the Raiders are
gonna go in the draft this year and get a quarterback?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Ship? Yeah, I mean what do you think? I'm not sure? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Absolutely, And guess guess what. Guess what? Well, they probably
would have screwed him up.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
He wouldn't have been with the Jackson dark Nay, but like,
but they probably would have screwed him up.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But the Raiders need they need a lot of the defense,
with the exception of Crosby. Yes, sir, oh Joe, you
need you need corners, you need safeties, you need linebackers,
you need a lot of stuff. Thirty six was playing scared.
Oh Joe, you see him up there, like, oh oh man,
this is George Pickens. Damn what am I gonna do?
Catch this ball high and the hell him? I gonna
get him on the ground. Oh goodness, Lord, have mercy.
(07:52):
Hey y'all, why did y'all call this coverage? That's gonna
make me cover? George Pickens?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
One, Well, you play for the Raiders. You for the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Un a blind man knows, and you play for the Raiders.
What coverage are you playing? You're playing man coverage man,
for sure playing man. You understand and know that going
into the game. Boy, this is the bright lights, This
is the bright lights. This is the game you want
to get up for. You want to be playing against
the Cowboys. You want the world watching, You want everybody watching.
(08:24):
When you as a defensive back, I get to play
against Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens. You got to be
chomping at the bitch for a battle like that too.
I want that as a competitor as a player.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
But the Raiders are so Oh Joe, the Raiders are.
They're so bad. They need so many things. They need
an offensive line, they need a defensive line, they need
something to go. If I'm Max Crosby, I want to
get out. Y'all need Max Crosley. You see you see
a Miles Garrett and we're going to talk about this
is having a historic a historic season. He has no
(09:02):
impact on them winning now, and it's unfortunate because he
has fifteen sacks with seven games to play. There's a
great chance he's gonna break that record that he's gonna
end up with twenty three, twenty four sacks, and it's
gonna be for nothing. They're probably finished with four and thirteen.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
MaTx. Crosby is unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
He can play the run now.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
He's a hard guy to block because you never do
because he's like a junior. Say I arrested soul. You
never know where he's gonna be. He's supposed to be
outside and then he crosses your face. You expect him
to cross your face, and now he bulls you back
into the backfield.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
So he's a really hard.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Guy to block or to line up, and you can
line him up on the line, but he's not gonna
be He's never he's not going to win there because
there's so many pieces away from fielding. Oh Joe, I
can't tell you. Like the receivers. I know Lockett. I
was like, Oh, that's Locket. That's the one that used
to be in Seattle, went to Tennessee asports release because
he wasn't getting any to catch it.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
They ran up down down in the red zone. Hold on,
what's the guy? Let me see Tucker. They run it
like a Tampa two. Yes, sir, Me and my quarterback
would say, look, probably in this area if we run
this play, I'm not gonna get over the top of him.
Put it on my back shoulder. Yeah, because he running
to a point. Oh Joe, I can't get on the
(10:18):
top of my run out of the end zone. Hell,
I'll be in Henderson.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Oh yeah, hey, but hold on you in the first half, right, yes, yes,
see that Do you.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Know what that comes with chemistry, that comes with rhythm.
Could you see where Geno Smith threw it? Because Gino Geno, yes,
back shoulder, Yes right, I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Throwing it on your back shoulder and he just kept running.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
So I mean if you threw the ball the right way,
it would have hit the line back in the back
of the head.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
But see that's like, okay, that's it. Man.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
What your thinking? I don't know because Ochoe didn't tell
me what he was thinking. Okay, Geno need to relay
that to him. He don't do no good for Gino
to throw it on his back shoulder because the guy
is running it like they drew it up. He is
not vetteran enough to understand if I can't get over
the top, he's gonna fit this ball on my back shoulder. Yes, sir,
So now all I do. I'm a haul buddy, like
(11:05):
I'm trying to get over the top and guess what,
I'm open.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
My heels and right here and it's gonna be a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And all to come down to, especially as a receiver.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
And we saw something similar to this, the type of
throw I go, I go back to I go back
to the Jets game. Yeah, Jets game with with with
A d Mitchell. You know when they were in that.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
It was yeah, the answer he went outside and the yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Everybody saying every and obviously the dv's and trail. So
it's not a perfect ball over top. What's the best
place to put it with the dB trailing right behind him?
Put it on his back shoulder away from the dB.
That's only on his inside hip trying to catch up.
It's a perfect throw. Same thing here.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
You know, if Tucker could have could have understood.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
And had y yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Had more control of his body, it would have been
an easy catch and pitch and catching.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
You got problem what A d Mitchell was on the
way he had his hands, have the ball this off
the ground, and you try to catch it like this,
your hands up on it like this. Now you got
to make your hands like their bucket. You can't catch
the ball cups. Guess what, even if you do catch it,
when you hit the ground, poop, it's.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Gonna pop up right out.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
And the funny thing, those are small nuances on Those are.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Smaller luances when it comes to younger players and veterans
that you already know, yes, no, but I mean it's
unfortunate the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
They need a lot on Hey they do. It's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
It's gonna be a long time because you understand how
long it takes the Bill a team, Yes, very long
time to be a competitive team where you can compete,
especially in that goddamn conference.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
They in, Oh you mean the division with my bold
knicks and Justin Herbert, I know what you.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Meant A West Division?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Now the thing that I look, the best thing that
happened was picked George Pickens was to get out of Pittsburgh.
He had gone comfortable. He wasn't gonna do. He needed something.
He needs, need to be somewhere where they could get
into football and he'd be happy. Dak can get into football.
He's happy, he's playing happy, he's playing hard.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
He's tried.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
He tried.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
He reminds me now he ain't the same Bill, but
he reminds me the way he plays, like to every
time to caught the ball, to trying to get to
hit his head on the gold post.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Every time, bye bye.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Every time George Pickings, you catch hell getting him on
the ground. Because if you think he's just gonna go down.
Oh yeah, I got if he gonna go down, No,
he's not. He's not going down, yep. And he's tough
to deal with because he has that mindset that, oh
I know, Oh you're scared.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I can tell you scared. You're back at all. You scared.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Hey, give me a smoke rock, give me give me
something quick. Let me get my hands on it.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
And now I take care of the rest.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
I do the rest.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I take it.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I'll do the rest.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
He's been. He's been everything that the Cowboys could have
hoped for and more and more, yes and more. Now, look,
the record is what the record is. But he's played exceptionally.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Well, phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
He's played really really well. And that threw the ball well.
And and you know, Dak can have these games if
you don't pressure that. Now, he's gonna pick you apart
because he got the weapons to pick you upon it.
I mean, it's it's shooting fish in the barrow. He
got picked, he got a CD, he got Ferguson, Jake Ferguson.
I like Jake Ferguson. He's not a guy that that
got great speed. But Dak trusts him. Is where he's
(14:27):
supposed to be. He makes good cat he makes a
good catches. He's a solid tight end. Is he McBride?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
No? No? Is he the port To No?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Is he Loveland in Chicago? No?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Is he Warning and and and at the Colts?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
No.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
But he's a very good tight end for what they
need because they run everything outside in a lot of
those teams run things inside out. With that being said,
oh Joe, uh, what do you like about what you
saw from the cowboys?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Man?
Speaker 5 (14:56):
They looked good on And then the first the first
thing I wanted to talk about. I couldn't wait to
actually get on the show. And when I said, after
that conversation with with number three, after that conversation that
I had with three, and I told you you wouldn't
have no more problems. I told you wouldn't have no
more problems. Especially I'm about on the field. On the
field stuff, now off the field stuff you have to
(15:17):
be able to control. Because I got him to understand,
I say, young boy, you got to remember. And I
use examples of other players that were stellar. I use
examples of other receivers that have anything.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Hell, I even use myself at one point to kind
of get it through his head and get it through
his head early. You know, when you have a team
giving up on you with it a special talent like yourself,
all right, that door starting to close. And that might
not have closed all the way, but it kind of
lurts other teams, like, listen, if we can't deal with them, man,
y'all can take them as good as you are.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You know what that means. You know what that means. Now,
you're not gonna get too many chances.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
You're not gonna get that much great because there's always
somebody else they're willing to deal with that's not gonna
bring that kind of problem the spite despite.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
How good you are. So he's been. This is what
he's always been on. Oh for sure, this is what
he's always been.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
So I'm just glad he can flourish, he can shine,
he's playing, he's smiling, he's.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Still he's still in the NFL. Young boy, he's still that.
You know, he didn't lose that.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
That's who he is, and.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I love it he didn't. I think he didn't lose
what make some special.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I think the worst thing, the worst thing that happened
to him is that he went to Pittsburgh who has
a history of receivers.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Behaving in this manner. Go back and look at it.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
We don't have to call any names, but you go
back and look at the Steelers history, at the wide
receiver position. There's a reason why most of them don't
get second contracts if you really look at it, if
you really think about it, Old Joe, only one has
really gotten a second contract.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
That's Hines Ward Ab got a second contract.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
And then yeah, but they let plaques go San Antonio Holmes.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
They let Mike what's the fast Mike Wallace, Mike Wallace, Mike,
Emanuel Sanders and Manuel was a picture. But you know,
they just had too many. They had too many guys.
They had to make a decision. Number game, numbers game,
number game, some guys. But I was like, damn, what
is it in Pittsburgh that y'all back? But he's figured
it out. I'm glad you had a conversation with him.
(17:18):
I'm glad he realized, like, Bro, you can see your grandkids,
grandkids up for the rest of their.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Life and then you're good and you straight, and.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
That's what he's Hey, this is exactly what it's gonna
be too. Now I can't wait to the off season.
Oh yeah, I can't wait to the off season.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Now.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
I know Cowboys fans. I know Cowboys fans are loving Pick.
I know they're loving what he's doing, what he's doing there.
But when when I think about it, I would love
for him to go to go to another team, no
disrespect Cowboys fan. To go to another team to get
as much as he possibly can, as much as he's
possibly can to a quarterback, to a team that is
(17:54):
efficient offensively, that can also get in the ball where he.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Can be the number one and be on his own team, where.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
He can get ten eleven targets a game. They can
put him in positions to make that.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Now he got eleven tonight.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
But look, oh yo, listen, we gotta be fair. Pick
Pick is what he is. He's a phenomenal talent. But
the Raiders are trash.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Hey you back, go out there, you back, go out
there and get five for forty Oh yoke.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Hey, five for forty five for forty Stay with me
real quick, you throw me five, You throw me five
NFL balls on right now with the way I'm in shape,
and now if they put me, if you put me
in positions to be able to manipulate the defense.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I might have my one one sixty O.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yo, they're gonna put you, gonna catch one pass and
your hamstring's gonna give out me.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yep, you think so.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, I'm in shape, Robbie running.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
You'll run like that were lasts We're the last time
you had a football over your hand and ran full speed.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
I haven't had a football in my hands, but I
do have to run sport full speed when I play
soccer on the weekends. You know, you know, I play
soccer with the Jamaicas weekend. Hey, this ain't no little field.
This was the Jamaicans. Have you ever seen Jamaican play soccer?
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, they don't play. They don't play.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
It's like being it's like playing football with no past
and everybody got damn fast.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, and he think about it. I don't mean to
be off topic. I don't know you.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I'm sure you had Jamaican friends. The Jamaicans I play with.
It's an entire league. Everybody's Jamaican, the whole stadium, everybody.
I can't understand the word they saying it's as if
they just got here to the States. What and within
the way they talk, they talk.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
So angry and so loud. It seems as if they're arguing,
but it's just a regular conversation. They be telling me
stuff on the field. I just smile and say, okay, yes,
I don't understand nothing you say.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
But anyway, Oh Joe, Ceedee Lamb and George Picking spit
the opening series on the bench coach's decision, reportedly for
violating teen rules.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I just don't get these guys. I don't. I don't.
And like I said, it's this new way now. I guess.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I guess coaches and things that you're just gonna have
to accept. Players are gonna be late, players are gonna
blow out things we're gonna talk about. I'm Dual Carter
sleeping through a walkthrough.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
IM.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I'm just at a loss, Oh Joe, I'm just at
a loss. I really am, Ojo, I really am. I
don't really think it's asking too much at your job.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
To be on time.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Hey, I mean, yo, your boss, you're supposed to clock
in at eight o'clock, eight o'clock, eight thirty, nine o'clock.
You're like, nah, I think I'll come at ten today, right,
or oh, you know, we're supposed to have a big
meet and I just sleep through.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I'm just like I said.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Maybe it's just me.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Maybe I'm just old school and I'm asking a bit
too much of the players to be pros.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Not only and your occupation, but how you go about
your business.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yes, they chat.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Maybe it's just I'm just old school. Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I'm wrong, man, you know, you know, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure what it is.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Because obviously with the with the nflp asks for the CBA,
they don't practice as much.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I think they get more rest. I mean, so there
really is no.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Excuse, so we would we would have to actually ask
the players what's the issue, what's the problem? Yeah, there
have been many obviously, in the last two weeks, there
have been many situations. There have been many incidents with
players being late, and most of the time some of
this stuff has swept under the rug. It's swept under
the rug, and they disciplined them behind closed doors and
are still allow them to play. But now coaches are
standing firm, you know, or their decisions and stuff that
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is supposed to be in house is being leaked out.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Well, when you saw your two starting receivers in the
first series, they're not on the field and they're healthy. Now,
if they're street closed, that's one thing standing on the sideline.
Oh Joeys shoulder pads on, and neither one in the game.
You know something's up.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, listen, it could have been part of the game
plan exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So so I'm like okay, and everybody's like, well, it's
crazy that you're two star receivers.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
There's a disciplinary problem because if they were not healthy enough,
they wouldn't even be.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
In uniform, which did probably late to a.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Meeting, late to a meeting or something. Yeah, yeah, fight something. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I just, like I said, I don't that's just me.
I just think the thing is is that I got
one job. It's not like I have a whole bunch
of jobs going on and things like that. All I
got to do hol on, y'all gonna pay me millions.
I mean, we didn't make what they're making now, oh
Jo clearly, but still that was good money. Yeah, And
just to be I'm just I've just always been a stickler,
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even now when you know we got to shoot the
dude for club shay shape to guess say they're gonna
be there, I'm gonna be there like fifteen minutes earlier
and fifteen minutes early, and to make sure I have done,
gotten made up and everything like that. I just I
just my Grandma's like, boy, don't beat a cow tape.
That's just that's yes, just me, that's just wait. Don't
be the what, don't be the cowntail. Don't be the
last one. You know, the count tail is the last
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thing to come in. I like that, come into the bar.
So I just, uh, that's just the way I am.
During the game, Dan's tweeted, George Pickens, I want you
to understand that whenever it's time to negotiate your new contract,
your legacy will be more worth more than being the
high paid receiver if you stayed in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
There's a lot more to the thought process. But think
about it.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Hey, Dance, I love you, but you know how Jerry
is when it comes to paying a player his true value.
George Pickins has one time to maximize. He has one
time to maximize everything he can get. It's not gonna
come from Jerry Cowboy's pans. I love you to death.
I know you're excited about George Pickins and what he
can do for you and your team, not just now
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what he's doing, but for the foresee of the future.
But Picktts is behind the eight ball when it comes
to getting paid. All his counterparts have gotten paid already
then have got a new contract all his counterparts.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Didn't he come in?
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Hold on, didn't he come in with Chase?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
If I'm not mistaken, I might don't. Don't I think
he came in with Chase. There's gotta be his fourth theory,
isn't it.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
It is?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Or no, is his fourth?
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Okay, No, he came in a year after this is
his fourth season.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's time.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
But oho, it's time.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
And yes, I'm not gonna say I'm gonna I can't
see because two things. I'm a firm believer, but two
things can be true. Yes, I just remember when Davis
got his contract, that is with the highest paid player.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
He didn't take land.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
He didn't.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
He wasn't worried about his legacy.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
He didn't.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
That's what the high fad. Don't look it up, chat,
y'all know what I'm talking about. It's gonna be interesting
to see because two things can be true. Dan's like, okay,
his legacy, But if pick gonna be one of these
guys that we talk about like we do Random Mouse,
like we do Jared Rights, like we do Fitzgerald, like
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we do Calvin Johnson, And.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Listen the way he's playing right now, he possibly could.
He possibly could.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Okay, I know one thing.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Forget the conversation pieces. Those are cute.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
The legacy, Yeah, that's Q two, But you can't eat
with that, take no bills with that. It's it's great
when you're in the barber shop and we talk about
you know, we're talking football with the fellas.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, it's fine and dandy.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
It's a good thing. It's a great conversation piece. Yeah,
but that legacy, haven't making sure?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
What's your legacy?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
O Joe?
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Your last name?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
What you also?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Your last name Johnson? You got seven others last name Johnson.
Your legacy is what the hell you do for them
and how you leave them situated after you long gone.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
NFL legacy.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
My kids can't eat that, they can't go to private school,
on that, they can't go to college, on what I do,
what I did in the NFL. Hell, come on, my
legacy is what I've done for the name on the back,
Shannon Sharp. Yes, I played my ass off for the Broncos.
That's how they compensated me handsomely. I played my ass
off for the Ravens. They compensated me handsomely. But my
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last name. I got people that's depending on me, and
I need to put them in a better situation than
what my parents and grandparents can put me in.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
That is my legacy.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Hey, it ain't even Sunday boy, but you preach, you
hear me well, and you spend that hot fire.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
He Hey, give me, give me one, give me one
more verse, No, give.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
And the legacy, that's what I want my legacy to be. Yes,
I want my legacy to be How did Shannon shop?
What did Shannon Sharp do for his family? How did
he leave them situated? Shannon Sharp has been gone.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Twenty five years? Forty years?
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Man, in thirty five years, the ain't nobody gonna be
talking about who man?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Man?
Speaker 1 (26:56):
You remember three for the Cowboys? Nah, they gonna remember
George Picking's kids, the grandkids and great grandkids, like they
do the Rockefellers, like they do the Kennedys.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Now that's the legacy. That's a legacy. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a
good one.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
The fact, the fact of the vision and leaving the legacy,
and it's all being situated and surrounded by the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I love to look. I want I want the man
to do. I want everybody to get That's why I try.
I tell the players, look, be on your best behavior,
don't give him any money back.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Get all the money you.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Can, because there's a likelihood everybody ain't gonna be like
Tom Brady can make just as much money and retirement
as they did when they were playing. Tom making thirty.
Everybody ain't gonna be Tony Romo making nineteen. Everybody gonna
beat Troy Aitman. So the money that you make in
that period, that finite period of time, that's what's gonna
have to sustain you for the rest of perpetuity, for
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the rest of your life, the rest of your kids life,
your kids kids life.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
That's my legacy. That's what I want my legacy to be.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Fine if everybody like because a lot of people like, hey,
shut in Shark, you talk about the guy in podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
He played football a damn club shake club Sha Shane
shining Shark. Huh mm hmmm mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I got grandkids and ain't gonna have great grandkids. My
legacy is that I left them in a position better
that I was left in.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
So at some point in time, Oh Joe, we we
did what we did so we could stop. I didn't
want my kids to grow up like how I grew up.
I'm sure my mom didn't want me to grow up
like she grew up. Got some of it, not all
of it, but I got somebody need to have to
pick cot. That's my legacy, Dans. I'm not saying that
you're wrong, but I just remember when you got your money,
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you got all of it. Yeah, and for a team
million use the highest paid. You didn't say you know what, Jerry,
Hey Jay, break me a you know what. If I'm
not mistaken, it was five years, it was four years,
five years, seventy mail my thirty something guarantee that I
don't really count your pockets.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
But I'm saying you didn't say you know what.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I want to stay in Dallas really really bad, because
my legacy means more in Dallas than it would somewhere else.
You say, Yeah, give me every dime that I've earned,
not that I deserve that I've earned.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
See, people like you don't get what you earn. You
don't get what you deserve. You get what you earned. Yeah,
Hen and Daz earned that contract.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Y'all.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Remember Deaves was got that Dad's sixteen touchdown. Den was
housing it. Den was taking shall across this piece of
folks out out fifty to fifty ball was ninety.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Ten deads every time. The real deal. Hey, and listen,
don't let him hit the end zone because you know
he know he gonna hit you with. Yes, yeah, a
real deal.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
But but listen, is just based on Jerry Jones, based
on the way he's handled other players that were at
whatever elead at their position, especially when they came the
time to pay him, and drawing things out wait until
the very last minute, having issues, making it a circus,
not taking care of the player, not putting the player first,
but having his own agenda and way of doing things.
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I just don't I meet personally. I don't want that
for pickings. He's done enough, he showed in true value.
Now there's a team that's not gonna play games, that's
not going to make a circus that's not going to
make them make a mistraining camp or make them hold
out that are going to give him the true value
and what he can do on the.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Field, and it should it should be superior.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Top number one money, and I just don't think he
can get that at the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, I like Joe.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
If the numbers are closed, let's just say the Cowboys
say we got thirty two million for you and another
team got thirty four million. I will stay with Dallas
because guess what, I'm gonna save it in state tax.
Ain't no state tax. Yeah, going somewhere else. Let's just
say you have to go now if the other team
I go to Las Vegas Raiders. Now the question is
Ocho the question? And we see this with Miles Garrett
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got paid having an unbelievable season, but he losing. How
well can you do because you see we see a
lot of guys that's losing, Oyo making a lot of money.
They ain't happy. Yeah, boy, it's sucks going out there
in the cold, yeah, like and getting your eyes beat.
Then you have to check is a nice one they
hit direct deposit. But as a competitor, you do what
you do in order to give yourself a chance to win.
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And it sucks knowing that I go out there. You
know what, man, I ain't really got no chance to leave, you.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Know, I don't. I know it was a hypothetical. I
don't even like them numbers you called out as an example.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
No, I'm just I'm just saying, I just I just
threw out a number. Yeah, I'll look the way the
way it is now, it's gonna be, it's gonna be.
It's probably gonna be North for thirty five.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Million, because.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Who was it, Jettis that deal two years ago? So
we're gonna be three years coming in. No, we can't
look and I get it. I don't want to hear
what this is an outlined contract because they did this
for the longest time with defensive players, Whening, Dominican, Sue
signed his number, his big contract. They're talking about this
was an outlier. I don't know nothing about no outlier.
I don't know about no pup flyers. I don't know
nothing about no outlier. I know you a damn liar.
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If you think I would take this bull jive contract,
that's what I would tell them. So but so Ojoe
here's the cowboys remaining schedule. They got the Eagles on Sunday,
they got the Chiefs on Thanksgiving, and they're at the Lions.
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They got the Vikings at home, Chargers at home on
the road. That the Commanders on the road against the Giants.
So the next four, the next game, Eagles, Chiefs, Lions, Vikings, Chargers.
That's the next five. And the best part about it,
O Joe, Yes, sorry for the fire at home.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Hey, that's that's a great thing. But the bad thing
about it is, now the Cowboys look good today, huh.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
But they weren't. They weren't playing a competent team.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
They weren't playing a common team that's good on offense
or comedy team that's good on defense.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Right, most of the teams on that schedule on one
side of the ball, they're really, really, really good. They're
really good.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Yeah, So they gonna have they they gonna listen, they're
gonna have it. They're gonna have it. They're gonna have
some fits. They're gonna have some fits. Now offense, this.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Game, this game Sunday, is gonna tell us a lot.
He gonna tell us a lot because you know, the Eagles,
the eagle. A how that they got Jalen Phillips and
you got other people on the office that defensive line
to worry about. You got you got Davis, and you
got Carter, and you gotta think hunt. I think ninety
seid what's the ninety seven for the eagle?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
What's his name?
Speaker 1 (33:55):
They got him on the other side on your They
got people you gotta worry about.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
It's gonna be here.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
So it's because probably what's gonna happen. Mitchell would take
pick Degene because what you call them lines up mainland
the slot CD. He'll probably deal with CD. That's probably
that's how they kind of played it last time, right
or Joe Mo that's ninety something of the eagles. They
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got another dude that was uh is it ninety six?
That was back down passes last night? Oh okay, but
uh but they Hey, they're gonna get some work. And
the lions. Now here's the thing. You get the lions
in that building, they get them on turf, you get
them in in the closed environment, a controlled environment.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
O Joe. The temperature is seventy two degrees. Yeah, the
footing is solid.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
And then listen, there's a good chance they won't look
the way they did against them, goddamn Eagles.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
No, no, absolutely not, absolutely not. I do not expect
them to look like they did against the Eagles. So
right now, the National Football Conference, here are the seven
teams if the playoffs were to end the day that
would be in the playoffs. The Eagles would be the
number one overall seed, followed by the Rams, the Bears,
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the Bucks, the Seahawks, the Packers, the forty nine Ers,
Detroit Carolina Cowboys, and Minnesota would be on the outside
looking in. But there's seven games left to play and
guess what. Now, you play your way into the playoffs.
This is where you play your way into the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Oh Joe, Jamar Chase, we had this conversation last night.
Jamar Chase was suspended one game. The one game suspension
will cost him over half a million dollars four hundred
forty eight three hundred and thirty three dollars in a
game check and fifty eight eight to twenty four in
an active roster bonus. Chase plans to appeal and argue
this one game suspension, claiming that if it was going
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to spin on Jalen Ramsey he would have spit in
his face and not on the man jersey the ground.
Oh Joe, Oh Joe, that's not come on, I mean,
come on, Chase.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
He didn't even talk to the media.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
That's what in Rappaport said, is that he said if
he was going to spit on Jalen Ramsey, he would
have spinned in his face and not on the jersey.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Of the ground.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah. I don't think he said that because he declined
to talk to the media.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
He declined to talk to everybody today obviously, you know,
once you get out of watching film on Monday's he
declined to.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
I guess his team put that out. But anyway, Uh,
I don't know how. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
But first of all, you said you didn't spit, So
whether you was spitting on the ground or you would
have did X, Y and Z, you said you didn't spit.
That's what you said. You said that after the game.
Now all that, Oh Joe, you know they shoot everything, man,
you know they shoot everything. Ok, and you could actually
see it, Yeah, yeah, you could. You could see pimbles
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on the booty.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
From the moon. That's how good the cameras are. Oh cho, yeah, yeah,
absolutely Chase appeal it.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
But I mean, I just think you should, you know,
call Ram and say, bro, I'm sorry, my mootion's got
the best of me, and leave, and and and and
because this one incident, this is not you.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
I don't believe this is you.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I'm surprised that we're actually having not having this conversation
and you're the topic of the conversation because you're ensnared
in this. I wouldn't believed it. If you, you would
have been the very last person they said, a receiver.
I probably there are some other names I might have
would have went to, but I wouldn't have been I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't have put that. I wouldn't have
put that on you.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
So I hope, I hope that's what I Rappaport said,
he said, his team said, or he said, I don't
believe it. I'm gonna I'm gonna say, let's just say,
but for the sake of but you did spit on him,
Whether you would have what you would have done, You
spit on the man, and UH, it's gonna cost you,
but you'll learn from it.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
I don't believe this is the type of person that
you are.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
We've all done things that we're not the It's not
our finest moment, and don't I don't think this moment
should define Jamar Chase. They're gonna be There're gonna be
a lot of other moments that we can look back
and define Jamar Chase with This is not gonna be
your defining moment. But the best, the best apology with
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your is change behavior. Don't let something like this happen again,
and we're gonna be good.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
The funny thing about it, when we talk about Jane,
when we talk about change behavior from the players, I'm
not just speaking on Jamar Chase in general. The change
behavior most of the time.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
You know, he gonna make you forget about it on
the field, Yes, gonna make you forget about it on
the field.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
And we never had problems out of Chase off the
field anyway.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
No, you don't have a problem from it.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
So when when you when you think about hypothetical, if
this scenario or this situation never happened, and he just
thought of some players that that that would come from,
it wouldn't come from him because he's one who causes
no problems.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
The problem because is on the field Bucker's Hell, that's it.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
That's why. That's why I struggle. That's why you struggle
because you know him better than I do. And there
was never any indication he's so laid back. He's so
much if you watch it when it does an interview,
he's sitting back.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
He chilled, He's sitting back like this here all the time. Yeah,
So he and a.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Little bit that I've been around him. I've been around
him a couple of times during the autograph signing. I
saw him at the Super Bowl. He's a chill guy.
He's not one of these high strung guys that you
know best liable to go off. He's really mild mannered.
So that's why it's so surprising. But you know, look,
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like I said, you know, this season was supposed to
be different. They missed the playoffs last year. He had
the Triple Crown. He's the first triple Crown, said, my
brother to win that and not make the playoffs. My
brother won the Triple Crowd in ninety two. They didn't
make the playoffs. Yeah, he won the Triple Crowd in
twenty four. They didn't sold almost thirty almost well over
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thirty years. So it doesn't happen often because there's not
a whole lot of people that win the Triple Crown.
It's hard, so you gotta have you gotta have the
most catches, yards and touchdowns versus everybody, not just the NFC,
but the AFC as well. Sometimes you can have yards,
sometimes you can have catches, and then somebody nips you
with touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
He had both.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
It's kind of like winning the Triple Crown in baseball.
Yeah yeah, you could have a three eighty batan average,
but you got forty home runs and somebody got fifty
or somebody drives in one hundred and thirty five. That's
why it doesn't happen that often. Mickey Cabaro was the
last one, and then you gotta go all the way
back to Yazz.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Call you scrimsky okay, okay, yeah, and they say who okay.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah, so or the same thing in horse racing, you know,
ay you might win that first two with that mile
and a half at the bailmarks.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
That's that's hell boy.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
If you notice not.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
A lot of horses just like, hey, forget it, then
you stay they like, I don't even worry about it.
We win to Kentucky Derby. We'll skip the Preakness. We'll
see you at the Belmont, right. I mean, it was
such a long time. And then, I mean, because everybody
thought it was easy. You get Secretary in seventy three,
and then you get Seattle Salu in a firm and
back to back year seventy seven, seventy eight, and then
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it's like, well, it's it's too hard, it's too hard,
it's too hard. And then you get American fayroh do it,
and then you come back with justified Bob Baffort two horses.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Yeah, it's hard, it's hard.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
You probably had more Triple Crown winners in baseball than
you have horse racing.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
M but uh, and that's that's difficult.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
And you been to the Kentucky Derby before.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
I beeno, we got a it's all of it's all
about the hat. Yes, for a man and a woman,
it's all about I've seen women come with some hat
and be barefooted, be bare barefooted. Yeah, yeah, I'm talking
because normally, I don't know, for some reason, it normally rains. Yeah,
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but the lady have these hats. I mean one lady
had a hat. I mean this this hat was way
out here like this here.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
You know, your boy, we had the hand of here.
He was at the sharp U huh you a sharp.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
If a fly little if a fly would the landed
you try to cut his throat? Do you see you
messing me up? You're messing up the ensemble. Yeah, I'm
a clean ojo.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I haven't been there a few times obviously.
When I was in Cincinnati, is right, it is right
down the street right.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
As a matter of fact, Hell, I flew into Cincinnati
and drove over down Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Yeah, the street man, it's a great event. I only
did it one time. You know, I'm I'm not in
that kind of That's that's where I met. I met.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I met Bob Bafford, him and his son at the time.
I met a rest his soul. I think d Wayne Lucas. Uh,
I met a couple of them.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah, it's crazy, It's grazy. It's awesome sports.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
It's unbelievable, Joe, because it was. It's on my bucket list.
You know, I've been to a World Series Obbicer, I've
been to a Super Bowl. Uh, the Kentucky Derby. I
want to do Daytona five hundred. I went to I
want to do webbled up.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
Do me, do me, do me a favor, to give
yourself some justice. So you can understand the experience when
you go to the Daytona five hundred.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Do not let them put you in a suite. You
need to sit in the stand so you can get.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
The ride that track.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
Yes, you've got to be able to experience it. You
got to feel those cars coming around. You know, the energy,
the aura, the stands, you got the man, it's.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
It's crazy, man, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
I mean, it's something about when you feel when you
feel eight hundred horsepower, it's forty two of those cars
and they going one hundred and eighty, one hundred and
ninety miles an hour, and they're this close, they're this close,
and those cars are damn near upside down.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Mm hmm. Unbelievable. Hey boy, hey hey, would they be
a they bump draft.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
That's a rested soulda terminator Dale Earnhardt boom boom sling.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Shot down in the back.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Man, I got to see that. When I got to
see that, I want to see where amen. Because I
went to see I saw the US Open, I saw Serena. Uh,
she just got married to Uh a couple of years
ago to David Lee. She Uh the Dane, the tennis player.
She married David Leader, basketball player. I saw her and
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Serena play a semifinal at the US Open on a
Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
What's her name, Naki? Yep, she married David Lee.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
I think they got a couple of kids, because I
saw them in I just saw them in Vegas maybe
for the Super Bowl. Uh, David Lee, Michael Phelps and
his wife and it was David Lee and Wolves in Nyaki.
Speaker 7 (45:15):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
But man, oh Joe, I got it.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
I got it.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Huh.
Speaker 5 (45:20):
Look at your boy, Hey boy, you clean?
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Man?
Speaker 2 (45:28):
I see you, Okay, you clean? Look I pulled out.
I was in the hurry all right. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
It's April, oh Joe. We might have to jump down there. Clubs,
I mean a night camp. Might have to go on
the road at the Derby.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Hey, you listen, not get my hat ready right now?
Don't don't.
Speaker 5 (45:48):
Hey, can you know when it when it comes to
putting putting them things on, and I put that, I
put that, I put that, you know what on that?
Speaker 2 (45:54):
I'm ready? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
We we better have to go and do a little something,
do something.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Speaking to speaking horses in Kentucky Derby. My daughter, My
daughter chat. She plays tennis. She's phenomenal.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
She's yeah, phenomenal, and she loves horses. I love she said,
I'm gonna blame my mama. I'm gonna blame my mama.
We went riding horses this past weekend, a weekend before last.
She asked me all about types of horses and telling
me about saddles, and I'm like, man.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
What in the world you learn all that stuff? Man'sd about?
She's really into it. So I'm like, okay, okay, cool, okay,
being in your pockets too, hey listen. So as soon
as we finished riding, you know, the first thing Christmas
coming up. So the first thing I do, I'm aving.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
Talking to the lady we on the trail were riding,
asked the train, I say, you know what horses run?
Speaker 2 (46:43):
How much they cost? Okay, one thousand and fifteen hundred
some simple bed?
Speaker 3 (46:48):
Please?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
You know I ain't getting I ain't getting nothing too expensive? Now,
you know, she she's young. Now, So I'm like, okay,
what about boarding? What about feeding? They have places? Do
they have places out there?
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (46:58):
That's where you spending the money, you know.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
They have bored It's like, yeah, that's horse, there's boreding.
So I asked her, I say, well, listen, I'm leaving
information and you know, send it to me and the
numbers and what it costs.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
A weekly, monthly and for the year.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
And I'm thinking about, you know, getting my daught I'm
thinking about geting a passio. I don't want none too big,
I want some a little smaller. The rider's smooth and
a pasta fino would be perfect for her. Yeah, I'm
just curious. I'm kind of excited. I'm kind of excited
for her because she loved them so much, and I
think that would be one of the best rest surprises
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for one of one of my eighty five on Christmas morning.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
The thing, Joe, is that, yeah, you get a horse
for a decent price. You probably spend fifteen hundred maybe
five thousand dollars what you.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Got to put into it completely different and eat it. Yes, yeah,
but see.
Speaker 5 (47:53):
And to also you had to understand where I live
in Miami out that way, you know, because I'm further
out up north in west a little bit.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Ain't nothing out there but horses and stables, that's it.
And when you think Miami, you think South Beats, you know,
all the nice stuff. But I'm out there. I don't
even know what you want to call it. You know,
you go to Walmart, you.
Speaker 5 (48:12):
Go to Target, and when you're driving, it's people riding
horses up and down the street like we in God
Damn Texas.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I said, yeah, that's I'm serious. That's how far out
I am from everybody?
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Right, Oh, Joe Mary kay Cabot when she reports all
things Browns, Ye listen. George Sanders is expected to start
Sunday in the game against the Las Vegas Raiders with
Dylan Gabriel in concussion protocol. Barring something unexpected, Sanders will
make his starting debut, becoming the forty second different quarterback
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to start for the Browns since nineteen ninety nine. Kevin
Stefanski was asked today if he changed anything how reps
were divided up among quarterbacks. Let's take a listen to
what he had to say.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Would you have changed anything about the approach about how
you divide it up the first team reps from training
camp to now? Yeah, I understand the question. Cam.
Speaker 6 (49:05):
I think it's important that you do what you think
is right for a football team. The development of our
players is constant. It doesn't happen just in one drill
or in one practice or one meeting. So we trust
our guys, we trust our backup players to be ready
to go.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
And should Door is ready to go.
Speaker 6 (49:25):
Obviously, I know he wants to play better, I want
to coach better, all those type of things.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
But that just comes.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
That'll come through work. That's where it will come.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
I like it. I like what he says said. I
like what he just said. He contradicted himself a little bit.
Speaker 5 (49:41):
The key word that he just said develop develop. The
only ways to develop is to get the reps. Yes,
just in case you need to be you need to
develop in just in case scenarios with those you're going
to play with on Sundays.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
That's how you develop.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
If you have a if you've got to offer the period,
you got seven oh seven, you got twenty plays, five
of the plays have to go for.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Number two, just in case.
Speaker 5 (50:05):
If you got team period and you got another twenty plays,
the fifteen plays, five of those plays, maybe that's a
little bit much.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
If you got fifteen at least three, yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
Ten to twelve everywhere.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
I'm not saying some people might have had that, but
we never went more than twelve plays a period.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah, some some maybe the last goal line was goal line.
Speaker 4 (50:23):
Wasn't that many. You probably had about four or five
plays on gold line.
Speaker 5 (50:26):
Yeah, but those those situations towards the end of towards
the end of the plays on that in that period,
they need to go, you know, to your backup quarterback.
You know, that's how you develop, That's how you make
sure you ready just in case something happens until your
number one quarterback.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
That's what they didn't do.
Speaker 5 (50:41):
And a lot of people, you know, making fun of
Oh sure he said he'll be ready, or he said
he could play.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Listen, I don't care who you are. If you don't
get reps with the number ones. It's not like a
plug and play and all of a sudden you go
out there and you're gonna change things. They already need help.
Speaker 5 (50:58):
They already need help as it is offensively, you know,
and service. So the thing he could have come in
there and be all world without actually practicing with the ones.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Come on, man, it's the NFL. Man, come on, stop that.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
I think the thing is.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Look, I've heard a lot of people say, well, look
I've only been to two places and the backup got reps.
Especially because here I was in Baltimore. Trent Differ was
our backup. Trent Differ was the number four pick in
the draft, right, and guess what he got reps? Backing
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up Tony Banks. Tony was the starter. He Another example,
my next year, Elvis Girl back was the starter. Randall
cunning had was the backup. Randall got reps. Randall had
been a starter with the Eagles, been to the Pro Bowl,
went to the Pro Bowl with the Minnesota He got reps.
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So we got two veteran guys. That's taking reps, right,
But this you know, you're not gonna give this guy
any reps, and then you expect it. And then somebody said,
Tom Moore said, Peyton Manning took all the reps. Ain't
nobody getting no reps. When Peyton Manning got hurt and
nobody had taken no reps, asked Tom Moore, what happened
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to the whole staff.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
From the general manager down got fired? You know why?
Because the guy had taken no reps. Right, it wasn't ready, and.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
It wasn't ready, and everybody got fired. Yeah, and guess
what happened.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
To fancy.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
Don't got to worry about that because the person who
wants to do the firing came out publicly and said,
this is my pick.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
This is not who I wanted.
Speaker 4 (52:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
True. So for me, I just like I said, I'm
not saying, Look, I'm not saying.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
You get a guy, he's a backup, and you got
a rookie quarterback. But it's hard for me to see
a scenario because I always thought it was funny because
they say, well, he's not he's not even running the
scout team.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
What's the guy?
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Bailey Zappi? He came from somewhere else and was getting
me and got jumped in over your door. I said,
so what we supposed to what are we supposed to do?
Speaker 4 (53:12):
From that?
Speaker 2 (53:15):
It's just hard.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
I just couldn't imagine it would be hard for me
to go into a game in which I took no
reps and I'm out there with Ed and Rod and
John and TD. And it was hard enough being a
young player and you getting a couple of reps. Everything
is happening so fast. You gotta remember, Okay, I got
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this route now, but if this guy comes, I'm hot.
But no, it's this protection. So instead of taking one,
it's gonna take two because the back's gonna stay in
and take one. So if the other guy comes now
I'm hot. You gotta remember all that. But I gotta
get in and out of his break too, cause John
ain't got all day. This ain't seven o seven now,
and they can't below no whistle, the whistle when he
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picked his an off off the ground.
Speaker 5 (54:04):
You know the one thing I hate to which is
very hard for a rookie. Not only are you not
getting reps in practice, forget that part. Practice is slow. Yeah,
for sure, practice is slow.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
When you get into the game and everything speeds up.
Speaker 5 (54:18):
Everything, it's crazy. It's crazy, and it could be. Oh,
it can almost be shocking to you when you get
in there with the number ones. This ain't the goddamn preseason,
I'm for you. It's the best of the best, the
best that they had to give you. And when you
don't have those repords with those reps or the officer
line likes like one of the linemen came out and said,
(54:38):
I wasn't wasn't used to us cadence.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
It is different.
Speaker 4 (54:43):
That's very important to an offensive lineman.
Speaker 5 (54:44):
Though, Garry So, I mean, listen, if I saw the reports,
I think Shoudor would be starting this week. So he
has a week under his belt to get himself ready,
to get himself prepared. And now the offense could be
predicated and the play call and could be predicated.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
To his strengths and what he does.
Speaker 5 (55:02):
Well, uh, knowing him what the type of player is,
I think they're gonna throw the ball much more and
and lean on brother brother Jenkins too, you know, to
run the ball when when they need to.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
And when they want to.
Speaker 5 (55:15):
Judkins, Yeah, Junkins, Junkin. I'm sorry, I'm sorry what I said, Jenkins.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
Yeah, my bad, Juggins. I think the thing is Ojoe
that he will push the ball down the field. That's
how you get you produce points. You like, you got
to push the ball down the field. Because I'm not
saying just arbitrary, just throw them all up and just hope.
But I'm saying they're they're they're they normally called something
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to the flat, something something made and something deep.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
Yeah oh Yoe.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
Also, Saduur house was broken into last night during last
night's game. According to Mortal reports, it's unclear if anything
was stolen during the break in, and the suspects haven't
been identified, but it marked the latest instant instance of
athletes homes getting burglarized while they're playing or what. You know,
they know when basketball players are not going to be home.
(56:07):
They know, hey, man, that's your do house. Man, he
played the game, he ain't home. I mean, it'd be
tough for your having that, having the type of you know,
you come in the game, you're excited, you don't play
as well as your hope, and then you get home
and it's the ultimate violation.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
It is.
Speaker 4 (56:29):
I don't know if you've ever had your house broken into,
but I had mind broken into.
Speaker 2 (56:33):
Oh yeah, yeah, you told me they stole some stuff
that yeah, watches.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
It was a lot of sentiment because the thing was,
it was like it had a lot of sentimental value.
O y'all because the watches that I had is that
they were meticulous. I had to wait a year, had
to wait three years. I had to wait four years
before I was able to save up and get the watch.
So it meant a little bit more to me than
the watches I was able to get to replace them.
Uh my eighty four chain that my brother gave me, Yes, sir,
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I had a medallion with uh all my kids name
on it a dog tag, so it was one big
k and then all the kids name they got that
uh my cuff links. So it's a it's a it's
an ultimate, but it's uh, it's you feel betrayed, you like,
that's one of the That's one of the reasons when
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I wanted to move also because I was like, man,
I can't because that never happened.
Speaker 4 (57:30):
But it never happened.
Speaker 1 (57:31):
I remember the times I would, you know, I would
walk the dogs and I would leave the door a lock,
and just this one time, I was going for about
an hour and come back in an hour.
Speaker 4 (57:41):
That's it. I was going for about an hour.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
God damn.
Speaker 4 (57:44):
Yeah, you see you know what?
Speaker 2 (57:47):
You know what? You know why I think nobody has
ever ever robbed me? I can I tell you why?
What if I always preached about since I've been in
the leagues in two thousand and one and nothing and nothing.
I'm wearing what, yeah, earrings, chains? Why? Nothing? Ain't nothing
that real? So what you're coming to my house? Fum
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mad as hell?
Speaker 5 (58:09):
You know that's something I've always always prets, you know,
over and over and over and you know now now
it's a little different. Now it's a little different because
you know, I was able to set aside enough to
now I can treat myself, I can enjoy myself and
and you know, and you know, get a little get
a little bit out of character when it comes to
the fruits of my labor and enjoy it a little
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bit more.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
But I never had any issues like that.
Speaker 4 (58:34):
Yeah, it was. I mean I've heard of people like
it happened.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
You know, like, man, they say, Shanny, you just feel
so violated the freedom and the independence that you felt
that you thought you had. It's it's never gonna be
the same, and it's not. You know, you become very
very very skeptical. Uh, and you know you just don't
want to trust God.
Speaker 2 (58:59):
Damn. Yeah, think about that. What you were going for
an hour?
Speaker 4 (59:02):
I was going for an hour.
Speaker 2 (59:04):
Yeah, and it had to be somebody, you know, man,
God leave man. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (59:09):
Well, I think the thing is baby, they were look,
they were just I don't know, but that was that
was the hardest part.
Speaker 6 (59:17):
Man.
Speaker 4 (59:17):
It's just like the stuff that they stole. Man.
Speaker 1 (59:19):
I had worked so hard, I mean from ninety from
I think my brother gave me my first Rolex when
I graduated college. Uh, so I started getting Rolexes, the
one that old boy gave back to me when I
went back in and said partly, let me get that
right there.
Speaker 4 (59:36):
I had to trade that in on something else. Yeah,
that right there.
Speaker 2 (59:42):
You had a Rolex in college.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
Once I graduated, God damns I graduate. Once I graduated college,
my brother bought me, got me a Rolex. I'll never
forget Oyster Flex band, two tone, stainless steel and gold.
Speaker 4 (59:57):
Uh, I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Yeah, that's live bad, you know man, it's it's uh.
You ever had one of these? What's that? What is
a Cassio nineteen eighty three? Noya? I had?
Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
They used to have the digital you remember you?
Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
What do you?
Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Were? You old enough to We watched what they had
the digital watch craze. Yeah, when you squeeze, you squeeze
it at it light up? Yes? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's so funny. It's so funny. I got I still
got my old gold, my gold, my gold Cassio. I
got calculated to watch. I got this, uh this nineteen
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eighty three Cassio.
Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
Yeah, but what else?
Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
I got one more Casio watch that's all black. I'm
talking about classic back in the days. You know when
you when you go to school and you have.
Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Math class and yeah, test you be able to use
you be able to use it to cheeta?
Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know exactly
what you're talking about. Uh, they got that. I had
a an a P of Lebron. They did a Lebron
did an a P the leather scrap it was gray
six hundred.
Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
I'll never forget walked in. I mean I had to
go through jump through hula hoops.
Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
I feel like, uh to get that watch from the
API because I didn't have a I didn't have a
purchasing history. You know, everybody wants you to have a
purchasing history.
Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Yeah, I hate I hate that.
Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
Matter of fact, I hate that with uh Richard Milly
Richard meeting, don't you gotta haves forget.
Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Charon apjor Hey, I'm like, sir, excuse me, yeah, huh sir,
Come on, man.
Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Same thing with Maz. You ain't Finn just walking up
the street and get no bad.
Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
See the thing with Maz already had a purchase history.
So with them, I get I'm able to.
Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Really, you don't say oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
I got a purchase history with a mass way back
from like eleven years ago. You know what, y'all don't
find chat, y'all, don't find that, y'all don't find that odd? Huh.
Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
This man got a person in history with pat Tag
and m and Odamars Paget and Reshard me the.
Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Only onlyard earth man's vacheron.
Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
You listen, noughted, and I can't get my bread chat, y'all,
don't find that a little bit, y'all, don't find that
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute. I said,
I got your money. No no, no, no, no, no,
no no no.
Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
I need you to put it in my pocket so
I can have my money.
Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
I said, that's that.
Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
You know what you keep You keep pressing me about
this money. And the funny thing about it, I was
trying to make it a Christmas gift for you.
Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
How you gonna make my money on Christmas gift? Ain't
no damn gift. You got my money and give me
my gift? You give me chat?
Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
How that man chat?
Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Y'all need to make that make sense? This man gonna
give me my money. It's say it's a Christmas gift.
Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
Yeah, that I wanted to feel like a gift because listen,
Christmas is all about giving, so that is the perfect
time to give you your money back on Christmas.
Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Chat, y'all ever had that help in chat? Somebody gave
you something that's yours as a gift.
Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
Hey, let me you know what my grandma always said,
anytime you lend money out or you bet money.
Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
You should, you should, you should. You should be able
to have enough to be able to withstand. I ain't
got it.
Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
I did, but there was.
Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Some extreinguating circumstances. It took plate.
Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
I ain't got it no more. I ain't got it
like I would have had it. So I need that
figured out. Hunterd come and hand it and do something
to do something for.
Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Let me tell you something. Even even though so we
we've all had our trials and tribulations. We all had up,
so we had our downs, we've.
Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
All had the peaks. We've been to the valley, through
the highs and the loads. One thing about God, that
God is a good God.
Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Huh. Absolutely, and listen and what they take it, he
can't replenish. The Funny thing about it is gonna happen
when you at least expect it. You can be like, man,
what the hell? And this just I'm telling you. Let
me tell you how the man work.
Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
I know how I believe it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Yeah, okay, because I'm I'm I'm a living I'm I'm
a living witness.
Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
The only thing else, o Joe, is that he waked
me up every day.
Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
He give me life. I got breath of my lungs.
Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
You good.
Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
My grandfather used to always tell my brother and I,
he said, if I take you somewhere, I expect you
to go, I expect you to be able to get
back here.
Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
I take that same approach. If I made it once,
I can make it again.
Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Yeah. Absolutely, Oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Now they say with interest that fifty nine hundred and
sixty seven sixty seven what sixty seven hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Your air American usd well, hold on, but what kind
of what you were?
Speaker 6 (01:04:56):
You?
Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Acting like you? Acting like Trump with the terrorists? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Yeah, and guess who pay for the tariffs.
Speaker 6 (01:05:03):
We do?
Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
I ain't got it.
Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
I ain't got it six sixty seven hundred. But that yeah,
that going in the chest support man French Frankle baby,
they have no Christmas me.
Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
I mean you know my kids. I mean grandkids. They won't,
you know, won't cars and iPads.
Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
And I was like, well, hold on.
Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
If I pay you sixty seven hundred, how my kids
gonna have a Christmas? Hold on, forget that. How I'm
gonna have Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
I mean you got me.
Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
I'm gonna have to go down to the shelter. I
heard they have a good meal down at the shelter.
Nobody no good trouble lives sixty seven.
Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
I got listen.
Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
I gotta get my kids Christmas gifts. I gotta get
my woman. I got to get her, you know, her
gifts and what she want, you know, like I got
you though.
Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Hey, I told you, I say this year a leap year.
December twenty fifth. Yeah, yeah, we skip it over. We're
going to I'll see you next year. You don't supposed
to happen if it's supposed to be February to Twitter
night the sim A twenty fifth.
Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
We're gonna move right on over. I get you next year.
Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Hey, that's funny, oh Joe.
Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Before we move on, let's take a listen to the
classic response to doing half of the Browns fan bulling
Dylan Gabriel last night.
Speaker 7 (01:06:19):
Listen, I'm extremely thankful. Well, first, let me say this,
when dealing out there, planning and all that, I appreciate
the fans, I appreciate everybody, but.
Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
It don't it don't really.
Speaker 7 (01:06:33):
I'm a good person overall, So I don't really like
I'm not feeling comfortable confident, you know when you get
out there, so you know, it puts, it puts everything
in a tough spot, you know, when it's not helping
the team, you know, So that could be taken that
as Okay, I'm being a distraction even though I ain't
doing nothing. You know, I'm not doing nothing. But I'm
(01:06:55):
thankful for the support. It's thankful for the fans, thank
you for everybody out there, you know, to believe. And yeah,
when I got out there, I definitely felt them, and
you know, I'm truly thankful for it. And yeah, I'm
just thankful that I'm out here, you know, I'm thankful
for the opportunity, thankful seeing all them twelve jerseys out
(01:07:17):
there and feels a great feeling.
Speaker 5 (01:07:22):
That's that's something you can't get out yea. Listen, no
matter what you say, that's something that you can't control.
Those fans in Cleveland have had to deal with quarterback woles.
But who knows how long you know, I'm not sure
how many years it's been. And when things aren't going well,
they fin the boot. It doesn't matter who you are.
They don't care that it makes you uncomfortable. They don't
care that that that if you're playing bad, they do
(01:07:45):
not care. They've been going through it for a very
long time. They've been going through it longer than you've
been alive.
Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Sure need to understand that.
Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
So when a quarterback does come in there, they were expecting,
they were expecting something different than what they've always seen
year after the year after year after year, and that
that just has gonna be. They've been dealing with it
for a long time, so you got to understand that
and why they're going. You know, they're not going just
for what's going on right now. They're going for all
(01:08:13):
the years it ain't been right too.
Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Yep, you're right about that, And uh, look a lot
of it and I'm sure you know obviously you you
buo players, but a lot of this has to do
with his dad. A lot of it has to do
with the dislike that they have for his dad. And
they couldn't do his dad because his dad was so great.
So the vitriol that we had towards his dad that
(01:08:38):
we couldn't give to his dad, we're gonna take that
out on his kid. And uh but I thought he
handled that situation. And like you know, like you said,
he can't control what the fans do. Uh yeah, he'll
appreciate this love and support that they've given him. But
I can't control what you know, grown women, grown men
(01:08:59):
and women, many children, Uh boyn and and and carrying
on and saying, So it's tough. It's it's it's it's really,
it's it's it's it's a tough position to be in.
I don't I it, I don't. I don't enmity young man.
Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
I don't
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