Nightcap - Hour 1: Mavericks even series, Big Baby sentenced, LeBrons future in LA

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Luka Doncic and the Dallas Mavericks winning Game 2 over the OKC Thunder, former NBA forward Glen "Big Baby" Davis being sentenced to 40 months in prison and reports the Lakers will resign LeBron James.

02:42 - Show Starts
05:02 - Mavs Beat Thunder
12:40 - Cavs beat the Celtics
18:58 - Big Baby Sentenced to 40 months
52:35 - Lakers plan to sign Lebron

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get right into it. There must be if they're ask
do you know if there's a power outage in OKC

(03:15):
in Oklahoma? Because ain't nobody on my timeline when they
want funded my timeline? Oh shahda oh oh, we worked
over one seedy. I ain't got nothing, so I'm assuming
this is a power outage somewhere. But anyway, I'm gonna
continue with our normally schedule programming. The MAVs beat the
Thunder in game to Luka Doncons twenty nine points, ten rebound,

(03:36):
seven assists. If I'm not mistaken, I think PJ. Washington
also had a career high with twenty nine points. Uh.
And in the third quarter, Tim Hardaway Junior came up
the bench hicked several threes to kind of break the
game open, and they cruised from there. Luca was uh
what was Luca? Twenty nine points, ten rebound, seven assists,

(03:56):
three steals, fifty two percent from the floor or five
of eight from three. Ten Tim Hardaway Junior, he came
in off the bench seventeen points, sixty percent field goal
in just nineteen minutes, and that was the difference in
the ball game. PJ. Washington had twenty nine points, eleven rebounds,
seven May threes, first player with ten plus rebounds seven
May three to the playoff games since step did it

(04:18):
in the NBA Finals. And that was what they really
need because Shay Gill just had an unbelievable game, also
almost had a triple double, but the map. But the
MAVs go on the roll and take home court away
from the OKC Thunder winning game two. Yeah, in a
very hard fall ball game. Ojo, you watched this ball game?
What did you like? I mean?

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Well, first off, the head of the snake, the head
of the Snake hadn't been playing well.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Kyrie had been playing well. The can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Okay, the head of the Snake as I like to
call it, you know, your two headed monster and Kyrie
and Luca. Luca hasn't been shooting well. He didn't shoot
well last game. But he came in this game and
he started off hot. You started off fire. He caught
himself into a rhythm. And obviously Kyrie did what Kyrie did.
But the emergence of PJ Washington, PJ Washington having the

(05:09):
game that he had, I think made the difference. And
the bench points that that Tim Hardaway Junior was able
to provide is why I think they ran away with
this game. And I think it was what was it?
Maybe it was about the third quarter where they kind
of pulled away from it. Yeah, they kind of pulled
away with it with everything but that god damn shake

(05:29):
Gills Alexander man oh Man another thirty point night.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Uh yep, thirteen or twenty four, one for three from
the three point line.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Thirty point night.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, yeah, but it wasn't because here you got you
got PJ. Washington. That was eleven of eighteen from the
floor in forty minutes before he plied out seven of
eleven from the three point line. Eleven rebounds you had, Luca,
he gave you eleven of twenty two from the floor,
five of eight from the three point line, ten rebounds.
They went eighteen to thirty seven from the three point line.
They out shot they out shot Okac from the three

(06:07):
point line, which was ten of eighteen. So in other words,
they're plus twenty four from the three point line. And
that really was the difference in the ballgame. The rebounding
was close, but the difference was in the ball game
was the three point shot. And that's normally how it goes.
We're going to talk about the Celtics and the Cavaliers,
and you see with the Celtics struggle from the three
point line. They struggle. But this was a game that

(06:29):
Luca if you watch early, and if you noticed early
he came out looking for his shot. He's like I'm
looking for and he's the type of player and most
of these great players are. If they see a couple
of those early shots go in, you got hell on
your hands because you gotta hug up on him because
you're worried about him shooting the three. And then he

(06:50):
has the ability to put the ball on the floor
and go buy you and finish at the rim not
dunking the ball. But he has tremendous English. Plus he
got the mid range, he got the float game. So
he has a bag. He has a rail shot that
he can pull out of his bag and make you pay.
But he got it going early. PJ got it going early.
But it was Tim Hardaway Jr. In that third quarter

(07:12):
that really gave them the separation that they needed. And
every time they would make a run, OKC would make
a run, Oho, Tim Hardaway Junior would hit a big
three point shot. They almost had to lose ball. He
gets it, lou Dorrit tries to get it from him.
He fakes it like he's gonna pass it the Luca
and as the shot clock's running down, he cans at
three in the corner, and from that point on they

(07:33):
really I think the closest they got it after that
point with maybe eight points. They seem to have really
never struggled from that point on. But give the Maverage credit.
They showed you something that is a very tough building
to play in. That's a young team. They feed off
the crowd, and every time the Thunder made a run
and got the crowd back in it, Luca, PJ. Washington,

(07:56):
somebody made a big shot, somebody made a big play
to suppress the run and stiman And so now they
go back one one. That's all you can hope for.
You go on the road. Yeah you'd like to win too.
But if we can get one and still home court,
now we get to go home for two. Let's see
if we can go back to OKC up three to one.
But give OKC Thunder crazy. Now, they're not gonna go away.

(08:17):
Like they're not gonna go away. There's a reason why
they had the number one seed. There's a reason why
shake Yill just all year long within the MVP discussion,
and you know, they got Jamal Wig, they got the
William boys that can make shots. But give the Mass
credit for going on the road. But I'm not here
to count the OKC out because I don't believe. I
don't believe they're gonna go down without a fight.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
I still believe this Still I think OKAC has to
do is they have to find the consistency in their players.
You already know what you're gonna get from shot. If
we can get it, we can get Williams homework. I mean, shaye,
I'm sorry. We can get Williams. We get Williams giddy
and home on the same page of consistency night in
and night out when they're playing. I think it make
it can make this series much tougher as opposed to

(09:01):
because you already know Luca, Luke and Kyrie are going
to do what they do. So you have to match
withs with their two headed monster or three, depend depending
on what Tim Hardaway Junior is coming off the bench,
or depending on how PJ. Washington is playing. You need
your three to play just as well as theirs. Is
to make the series very interesting and not just Shade

(09:24):
Guilt just leading the way all the way. Somebody got
somebody has to take that pressure off him.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Well when you get because here's the thing, Kyrie didn't
play particular well last night tonight, and he didn't really
need to because PJ picked up the slack. So the
points that PJ gave you is what Kyrie would normally
give you. But so when you get PJ given your
twenty nine, you got thirteen from Daniel Gaffer, Kyrie only
gave you nine points. But then you get Tim Hardiway
Junior coming off the bench giving your seventeen, and you

(09:54):
get Green coming off the bench going three or five
and giving you eleven, And so that was the difference.
So what what happens is if one of your key
guys goes doesn't perform like he normally does. If we
normally what Kyrie normally gives you, that means somebody else
has to pick up that scoring slack, or someone someone's
or others have to pick up the scoring slack. And

(10:15):
that's what you need on the road. If you can
get your auxiliary player, your role player to step up
and contribute, it's gonna be you're more apped, especially if
you get Luca one of the other guys playing well.
Luca was very efficient tonight. He shot over fifty percent
from the floor. He was over fifty percent from the
three point line. He gave you ten rebounds, gave you
seven assents. We knew that he wasn't gonna play in

(10:37):
game two as poorly as he played in Game one,
and so when you get that kind of production, you
got that kind of production from him. You got that
kind of production from PJ. Daniel Gaffert gave you thirteen.
He only took six shots, and you got hard Away
and John think Josh Green coming off the bench, get
combining to give you twenty eight. You can and they
shot what they shoot ten, ten or fourteen from the floor,

(11:00):
and they shot five of nine from the three point line.
You get that kind of production.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
On the role.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Players, you're gonna be dooring real good. In the starner
of the night, the calv did a better job of
making life hearted. Jaylen Brown he was seven of seventeen.
Jason Tatum was eight of seventeen in Game two, but
it was Spider Mitchell. He gave you twenty nine points,
seven rebounds, eight assists. He was five or seven from
the three point line. He was plus thirty six and

(11:29):
plus minus. Only Jaylen Brunton has scored more points in
the postseason. Donald mitched over Donovan Mitchell. Over his last
four games, he's giving you thirty eight points, six and
a half rebounds, five and a half assists on fifty
one forty shooting. Evan Mobley gave you twenty one points,
ten rebounds, five assists. He was plus thirty five. He's
the youngest Calve player. He's the youngest calv flayer, says

(11:53):
Lebron James, with a twenty ten to five in a
playoff game. Karris Leburt chipped in on the road. He
gave you twenty one big points, rebounds, and the and
they outscored the Celtics. He outscored well, they outscored the
Celtics starters in the fourth quarter. You see the Celtics
or three point shooting team. Now, even though they didn't
get up the normal amount of threes that they got up.

(12:13):
They normally get up when the threes are falling, they'll
shoot you at the gym. But when they're not falling,
they get blown out. They get this just like what
you what the Heat what he did to them in
Game two because the Heat threes were falling, the Celtics
threes weren't falling. The same thing happened tonight do I
think the cab is gonna beat the Celtics in a

(12:35):
seven game series. I don't. I don't, I don't. But
they did make it a lot more interesting because a
lot of people thought it was going.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
To be listen, this is what you this is what
you have to do again. The supporting cast with Donovan
Mitchell strussed LeVert Garland. If they can just keep the
games close, because you never know this type of night
that the Celtics are gonna have. You know, we know
they can shoot you out of gym. We know what
Jayden Brown could do, we know what Jason Tatum can do.

(13:03):
If you can just continue to match their point output
as consistently as possible and be efficient from the field
and challenging them on every shot and not allow them
to get any easy shots off, I think they have
a chance, maybe not to win the series, but at
least to make it close enough to where people can say, oh,

(13:25):
it's gonna be for to one, it's gonna be a
for one series, or whatever it may be. Nobody is
given if if you're a gambler man, if you're a
bet man, nobody's giving the Cavs a chance to win
this series. Not not even you, absolutely no, I'm not no.
Because the thing is the thing that I love about

(13:45):
a seven game.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Series, because in football sometimes the best team doesn't always win,
the team that on a given Sunday or Saturday or
Monday or Thursday, they'll win. But I got seven games
the normal and normally in a seven games reads, if
the bad calls or pour shooting happens earlier enough, you
can overcome back. Now in the situation, if it's a

(14:07):
game seven and you shoot poorly and it's a three
to three ball game, you're not gonna overcome that. But
if it's early in the series, normally a seven game series,
the better team will overcome back. But you look at
the production that they got on the road. They had
six guys to score in double figure. All five of
their starters for the Cavs had double figures. And you
get Keris Leburt coming off the bench giving you twenty

(14:27):
one points. And so when you get that kind of
production from Donovan Mitchell, he gave you twenty nine on
plus fifty percent shooting. Darius Garland didn't take a whole
bunch of shots. He was five of eight, four or
five from the three he gave you fourteen points. A
cool roup, he gave you twelve points. Evan Molett we
mentioned twenty one and ten Max Struce, he gave you twelve.
On fifty percent shooting, they shot almost fifty five percent

(14:50):
from the floor and forty six percent from the three
point line, Boston got to do a better job of defending.
I mean, you let a team in the playoffs shoot
fifty five percent from the four forty six percent from
the three, they're probably gonna lose the game. I mean,
listen Boston with Boston before you go, o Joe, Boston
was forty one percent from the floor. There was thirty

(15:11):
three or eighty from the floor, and it was eight
of thirty five from the three. They know they always
I mean, you know you hear Missoula Joe Mozula talk.
He's trying to get up fifty threes. Well they're trying
to make the get up fifty three. You're trying. You're
trying to make somewhere between eighteen to twenty two of those. Well,
when you only make eight three, the Celtics are not
beating anybody. If they only make eight threes, that's not

(15:33):
gonna happen. It's not because their offense, their team is
predicated on taking and making a bunch of threes.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
It's really that simple, damn. Jason Tatum was seven seven fifteen.
Danil Brown was seven for seventeen. I mean, hell, let's
start with them two right now for one.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
M h yeah, well you two, but your big big
guns gotta go off. Jason Tatum gave it twenty five
he was seven of Jaylen Brown only gave you nineteen.
He was seven or seventeen. Derrick White was three of eleven.
He had ten. Holiday was two or seven. He gave
you four. Al Horford was four or nine. He gave
you eleven. Peton Princechett was the guy. He played really

(16:14):
really well. He gave you thirteen points on six of ten.
But outside of that, they really didn't have. They didn't
really get a whole lot of production from the bench,
but they normally don't. They normally don't get a whole lot.
Howser normally comes in and plays pretty well. Occasionals they'll
come in and coordinated, come in and give him some
valuable minutes. But normally, Pitch Princhett is the guy off
the bench that plays well for them. But right now.

(16:37):
Jason Tatum is struggling. There's no well putting it. You
look at the previous series, he did not play well,
and the Calves to get a road win, considering Bag
didn't even come close to getting a road win, well,
I think game six when he had fifty, but I
think it's still what they ended up losing. But for
the Calve to come into the Garden and beat them

(16:59):
by twenty four, that's the Calves got to take something
that we're like, Okay, we didn't win not one road
game last series against Orlando, and here we are a
team that won sixty four games. We still won on
the road, So they got to feel good with that.
I like it. Now it's time for our first segment

(17:19):
of the night, O Joe and it's a news cap.
Glenn Big Baby Davis was sent US to forty months
in the prison on Thursday for defrauding the league's health
care plan. The thirty eight year old Davis was also
sent US to three years supervised release. In November. Davis

(17:40):
was found guilty of health care fraud, wild fraud, conspiracy
to make false davements, and conspiracy to commit health care
and wild fraud and phase twenty years in prison. Federal
authorities said Davis and others the fraud of the insurance
plan of the NBA players and family members of more
than five million dollars in a scheme that lasted four years.
The players would make false claims to dental service various medicals,

(18:01):
but those services were never provided. David submitted they told
him one hundred and thirty two thousand worth of claims,
including he got twenty seven two hundred dollars worth of
dental work at the Beverly Hills Dennis office at October
of twenty eighteen. Authority said he was actually living in
Vegas at the time. Flew the past that same day,
using the geolocation data for its cell phone to prove it.

(18:27):
But David doesn't seem too concerned because about his punishment.
Take a listen to what he had to say this afternoon.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
Damn, I got a cold imagination, though you know I
do that actors.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Shit, I got a cold imagination. I'm gonna have to
choke the chicken in the bathroom.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
That's I'm gonna be swollen though, I swear to God,
I'm about to get in so much shame. Oh God,
that's the only way you can stop me from beating
hamburgers to put me in Yeah.

Speaker 6 (19:02):
I say, I'm gona stopp I'm gona stop. I'm gonna
stop eating hamburgers. I'm gonna put you in jail. You
don't won't stop eating hamburgers and cheetos, You're going to jail.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
So now come, I'm gonna come to rock Oh yeah, man,
he may listen, he may. I mean, I guess, I
guess the best thing I would just get ready to
say the same thing. Man.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
He's making light of the situation, taking it, taking it
on the chin the best way he can, obviously.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
But it all sends back to what I've always seen.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
You better hope you don't take it on the other end.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Listen, hey, But it's one thing what I always say
when I always speak on taking care of your chicken,
like Marshawn Lynch says, taking care of your money when
you're in when you're in the league, taking care of.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Yourself, man, so you don't end up in situations like this.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
We have to do anything having to do with fraud
for that matter, and having to to find loop Pohle's
in the system to use it to do some of
the things that you enjoy in life, getting your teeth done,
flying to Paris, I mean.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Get Ojo while you waiting you out of Ojo. You know,
the team paid because when I first got to the league, Oho,
the team, the medical wasn't like it is currently for
the NFL players. I went and saw my black ass
in the chair every Tuesday because back then, I think
the medical I think the NFL only played like ten

(20:31):
percent of the gentle because they deemed what I was
getting was cosmetic. They're not doing for cosmetic. Now. If
I had to have a team that I had a
root Canal or something like that. But since I was
getting Veneers, they deemed that cosmetic and they really didn't
want to play for anything. So I ended up having
to get the root, had to get root canals and
then Vaniera. But why would you my part? The thing

(20:53):
that I hate most is that when you defraud the system,
and I get it, you shouldn't do it. But what
about the other players, because now you make it hard
because oh Jo, we heard cases of how players that
really needed and benefits when NFL players tried to do
the exact same thing, and when players actually made it,
they was turned away indeed, Jack answers that was one

(21:15):
hundred percent healthy, that didn't need it, that they wasted
their money because they had five chicks, they had six homes,
they had twelve cars, that blew all their money, and
now you mess it up for somebody else. I don't
feel sorry for them. I do not.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
This is a great example. This is a great example.
And people laugh at me when I've been preaching. I've
been preaching on for now, but or damn near twenty years,
damn near twenty years. It's impossible to maintain the lifestyle
that you're afforded to live when you're playing the game.
You lose sight of reality, you lose sight of logic,

(21:51):
you lose sight of COmON sense, being able to budget
and feeling that this money will always be coming in.
Because you make one hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of
millions as an NBA player. You gotta take your chicken.
You got to You got to save for a rainy day,
because you can end up in situations like this where
you want to continue to maintain that lifestyle even when

(22:11):
you're done playing, and it's impossible to do unc. It's impossible.
There is nothing chat stay with me, real quick. Now,
stay with me, real quick. Think about what can you
do in life in general as an athlete. I'm just
gonna throw a figure out there where you can make
two hundred and fifty thousand, two hundred and fifty thousand

(22:33):
or six fifty a week a week UNC and a
six month span. What can you There's nothing, nothing you
can do. So you got to plan accordingly if you're
making a if you're making one hundred million, have a
five year goal, or have somebody that you trust with

(22:56):
your finances and setting things up to make sure you
don't Hell, even I had a budget when I was playing,
and I.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Refuse, huh yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah, I refuse.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
You better have budget.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
I refuse it over that monthly budget, and I would
hope I didn't. So whatever I did spend, it can
fall into the next line for the next month. And
I got a little extra to spend. But you get
caught up in the lifestyle. You get caught up in
the in the chicks and the jewelry and the ig
and trying to look like you got and trying.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
To man, it ain't worth it, man, it ain't.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
It ain't worth it, man, Because if you think about
the Overhoe. Because here's the thing is that I don't
know how NFL Baseball, NBA players, maybe they get faced,
but you know, you get a check basically from September

(23:56):
until the end of the season. And if you make
the playoffs, yeah you get playoff money, but it's not
nearly the money that you make in the regular season,
unless unless you want of those lesson toier guys, one
of those lesson to your guys, the playoff money might
be more than what they asks me getting during the
course of the week. But with that being said, Okay,
I get money from September to let's just say January,

(24:18):
the end of January, September, October, November, December, January fifth,
so let's just say the end of james last five months.
I'm gonna get money February, March, April, May, June, July, August.
Ain't no money coming in. Are you still living in
an apartment? Are you still do you still have a mortgage,
do you still have car payments? If you have kids,

(24:40):
are those kids still going to daycare? Are they in
private school? So, because you still spending like from September
to January, but ain't no money coming in from February
through August. So now what So imagine that now I'm saying,
you playing in the NFL and you got a five
months per in which money is coming in. Now you

(25:03):
lead the league. What the money coming in? A't Joe?
Hold on? So you mean to tell me you ain't
got no money coming in? But you still you still
big balling, you still buying balled, you still got tables. Yeah,
a lot of still traveling.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Have this this mindset. They love to throw the word
investment out. I'm not a gambling man, I'm not a batman.
But investments are cool summer, high risk, low reward, and
I've heard so many horror stories about people that are investing,
investing in this, investing in that expecting a quick turnaround,

(25:46):
hoping that later on in the future that this investment
it turns into fruition. Nine times out of ten, it
really never works that way. I'm just being honest. It
never works that way. Because if it did work that
way for all the athletes that make all this money
when they're playing, then the ability to sustain the lifestyle

(26:06):
that many portray.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
You would see it. It would be shown.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
And if you look at it through every era, through
every era of football. You ever notice once players stopped
playing the game of football that the lifestyle has to change.
It has always changed. Can you show me one player
from your era? And I'm thinking of those that are
in my era that still live the exact same lifestyle,

(26:31):
if it was flashy, if it was above their means,
that they when they were doing their playing days and
continue to live it once they were done playing. It's impossible, man,
I said, I got my ass straight in year three.
In year three, I had already made it for my mind.
You know it, while I'm still playing, you know what
to be able to do. I'm gonna live a certain

(26:52):
lifestyle right now, and I'm gonna stick to it because
I thought to myself, Hell, if I can get my
name just as big, stay with me now. If I
can get my name, just my name alone, just as
big as anything I can purchase, then there would be
no need for me to need all.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
The acessories in the aesthetics.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
There's no need for the high end fashion, there's no
need for the Lamborghinian and the Rose Royce.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Because, bitch, I'm o show.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
So I got my name to a point where none
of the fucking glitz and glamor mattered because wherever I went,
you already knew who it was, so it wasn't necessary
as opposed to others. Well, you know what I mean, NFL,
everybody doesn't know me because I don't have the visibility.
I always have a helmet on, so I have to
put on thecessories for the attraction to get who I want. Hey, look,

(27:47):
I mean and if I can get players to understand
if you can handle your business on the field. It's
a little different now because everybody's a brand. You got
social media and all this stuff. I didn't have that,
so I had to build mind from it. I had
to get mine out the mud.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Right, how y'all? Oh y'all. People in the chat said,
I seem judgmental because the guy that was in the NBA,
let's just say, for the sake of argument, big Baby
made fifty million. Let's just say, for the sake of argument,
he made fifty million. How am I judgmental? Am I
supposed to say I feel bad for Big Baby? Hey,
he made a chat a million. I'll the chat chat

(28:23):
real quick. Give me a favorite. Look at the stats.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Look at the stats on a number of NBA players
that go broke once they're them playing two years remove
henfl look at a broke once they're them playing.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Hey, no, I'm not judging it. It's dumb. He dumb.
He wasted his money. You can't get mad at me
because you and I are pointing out the the things
that people that guys did that caused them to be
in this situation. He chose this. You get mad at us,
You not mad at big baby that he defrauded the

(28:58):
He defrauded the system that was in place to help
him and help others. He's not the only one that's
on hard times. So it's in other words, if I
fall on hard times, damn anybody else. Let me go
get it. I don't get sometimes, I don't get us.
I don't get us because look I understood when I

(29:21):
took responsibility, I had kids and had them back to
back to back. Yeah, they're my responsibility. And as I
told my agent, I had the same agent for twenty
six since nineteen ninety six, so twenty eight years September
twenty eight years I've had Marvin, And he asked me,
he said, what do you want for yourself? I said, Marvin,
I want to live the same lifestyle right now, twenty

(29:44):
five years he got the kids. I got three. How old?
I told him how old it was. He said, well,
go get me all your financials. The only thing I
owned was a household joke, that's the only thing I had.
And cars that were already paid for. He said, well,
this is what we need to do. This, this, this and this,
and what you need to do is start sitting up
stuff for college to make sure, no matter what happens

(30:06):
to you, the kids college because they shouldn't suffer because
you're reckless. That's the one thing he told me. Hey,
I don't care. Hey, I'm gonna advise you. Here's the
thing about advisors. I can advise o Choe all I
want to. O Cho made that money. O Cho's gonna
do what he wants to do. I can offer him

(30:28):
all the advice that I want. But if Oo, I
can't make o Cho because O chose an went on
the field taking those hits. He told me, he said,
look here, if you want to be reckless and get
careless with your money and not do what I advise
you to do, the kids are gonna be taken care of. Okay, cool,

(30:49):
But I said that's not good enough. I said, I
still got a grandma, and I got a sister. Boom
boom boom, so for me, and oh, you don't going
on a vacation. That's why I ain't gonna go vacation,
right because that was gonna cost me money. So I
was gonna have to play. You know, I'm gonna fly
first class. I'm gonna stay in five star hotel. So
now I'm spending twenty five thirty thousand dollars. Nah nah,

(31:13):
nah nah, I could divide it up times three. That's
the kid. So when the kids get ready to go
to college, they're taking care of Now we're fortunate, Oh Jo,
we were good enough that we could talk, we can
talk the game. We got great personalities, we're affable, we're
likable that we're able to parlay that. You and I
have a podcast. I have Club Shay Shay. I'm on

(31:35):
first Take. I did CBS as soon as I left
the league for a decade. I did seven years on Undisputed.
So everybody is not fortunate, and you have to understand that.
But I wasn't banking on being able to have that.
So I was gonna have to have the money that
I made. I didn't look, I was a seventh round
draft pick. I didn't start making a million dollars select

(31:57):
my fourth or fifth year in the league, so I
had to make up Yo, yeah for sure. So I'm like, Okay,
this is what I gotta do. And so if I'm
fortunate enough that I was able to like get money
and from a CBS for ten years, say out of
two years now for me, oh Joe, I was like, man,

(32:18):
I really want to get back on television. I say,
but you know, and my agent was telling me to
say out of sight, out of mind. I'm thinking to myself,
like what can I do? They call around. It's like,
what if you did? What if you broke down three
or four games, pay for it out of your own pocket,
get somebody to edit it and put it on your

(32:38):
own Facebook page, but say no more. Every week fourteen
thousand dollars, do three they edit, they cut it every week.
That's what I did out of my own pocket. Now
mind you ain't no money coming in. That's just so
I hope an ESPN or somebody would see notice me
and say, man, I like I like the way you

(32:59):
break down game. I like the way here. Yeah, it happened,
but everybody. But still, even if those things didn't happen,
I'm not gonna defraud somebody because I know having played
in the NFL, and I've gone around enough to see
guys that actually need the money. So when I go
to the Hall of Fame and they say, well, Shannon,
can you sign this and we'll pay you X amount

(33:21):
of dollars, I said, don't give it to me. I
don't need it. Give it to somebody that's not as
fortunate or didn't play in the era in which they
made the money that I made, don't. I don't need nothing.
I'm good. So anytime the NFL or the play or
the Hall of Fame asks me to do something and
they want to pay me, nah, just give it to
the players that need it more than I do. I
don't need. Shannon is good. Shannon has been blessed God

(33:44):
and blessed. Shannon gave me the ability to play the
game for an extended period of time. He give me
the opportunity to talk, to be able to articulate my points,
have a strong point of view on television. I'm good,
but I can I don't get I don't like people
to play. I don't like people to do stuff like that. Man,
don't don't cheat the system, especially when you have an
opportunity to beat the system. Oh you know how virtuate

(34:06):
we are to play a game that's a child's game
and you get played man.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
And you get paid a heavy rantom, a heavy ransom.
I mean, listens, it all comes back. It all come
down to the discipline. It all comes down to financial discipline.
They have the Rookies Imposium. I'm sure they have the
resources in the NBA teaching how to manage your money,
understand how to deal with the women, understanding how to
deal with the chicks. Again, fellas a lot of fellas

(34:31):
out there, I'm in the chat. I know some of
y'all want to see this in the NBA, some of
y'all want to see this in the NFL entourages. And
as one person, they all, they all eating off one person.
That money goes fast.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
It goes fast. Wasn't that? Wasn't that a TV series
or movie?

Speaker 3 (34:51):
It goes fast, it goes, it goes fast. I know
people look at it today, especially today's game. The players
that are playing right now, Oh, I'm making way more
than we made when we was playing back then. But again,
if you make it more, then you're spending more, especially
when the destructure and the financial discipline ain't there. So
the fact that you make it way more money as

(35:12):
opposed to when we did when we were playing.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
It, don't make it none. It don't make it none.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
It's going to run out every time.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
So when the air that's playing right now, when the
air that's playing right now is done, ten eleven years
from now, when i'm what i'll be sixty five, then
I'm still going to be living the same exact lifestyle
the same way.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yes, I I just hope to be living God listen,
God willing, God willing, God willing, God will, God willing.
That's it. Oh But like I said, mean I understood
what I wanted. I wanted my family out of the environment,
my brother. That was really the only thing that my
brother and I we talked about. We didn't really ever

(36:00):
talk about girls anything. You're like, man, I just want
to make some money, get granted out of this situation. Yeah,
me too, man, Man, You I don't know, Man, I
just that was all that was all I thought about.
And the thing is still to this day, like anybody
that comes into my life. They understand, right, I got you.
I got your mom too, got your I got your

(36:22):
mom and your dad. But you best believe Mary ALA's
deck Sait Cheryl sharp, oh Sterling sharp. Oh, absolutely, I
got you. If your mom and dad needs something, were good,
but you best believed. Don't ever, don't ever. I got
into a lot of this shuit. Well, why you take

(36:43):
causes my money? You see the hips, you see the
eye socket, you see this collar bone that's broken. M h.
And when I didn't have a damn thing, I could
go to my sister's boyfriend. She'd tell, hey, just sharing
fifty dollars. When I didn't have anything, my grandma was
sending me five dollars. Put it in newspapers so they

(37:04):
couldn't see it in the mail room and take it.
My brother made sure I had so they could for life. So,
like I said, that's that's how I am. I'm always
I'm always gonna rock with my family. Look, we're gonna disagree.
Family disagree. My brother don't agree with everything I say.
My sister don't agree. I don't agree with them. We

(37:25):
just we get upset. But guess what they know that hey,
they got them. That's the way you got.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Your argumists, no arguments anymore. Obviously, no Mom's going, Grandma
is gone. So my my my.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
Nucleus obviously is my kids.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
I got my brother Chauncey, I got my brother Sam
uh and and and that's it. I don't I don't
have I don't have much overhead, you know, obviously I
have a lot of kids. I am thankful, thankful for
those that have kids from because they are the reason
this train is continuing to move and able to move

(38:04):
the way it does because there's no ill intent. They understand,
they've always understood what the end goal was at the
end of the day for the betterment of the child,
which is why they're all striving well and their respecting
crabs and what they do like no issues, no issue.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
I just I just for some.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Reason, I got lucky even though I didn't do things
the traditional way, the way I did do it it
works well. Which is why every time you ever, you
ever notice, I always praise those because there are individuals
in my life that can make life live in hell
and it would be no way it would be going
the way it's going on this track.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Oh yeah, definitely, they definitely could. They could have made
it to us.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
I see, I see it we have.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
On Twitter.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
I see some of the stuff on Instagram, and and boy,
I'm not gonna get in that and change the subject, but.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
It happens. I mean, look, we're all young. I had
kids at a young age. Their mom was young. We
had disagreements, and like I told us to look, I mean,
y'all got me out here stretched out like this here,
and people think I'm putting hands on y'all. And they
all they see is Hanna has eight this and eight back.
They don't realize those are child modification hearing. All they
see is eight ten child Shannon Sharp in court. But

(39:26):
there was a child modifications for more money. I was like, go, look, look,
how y'all got me out here? Y'all got people think
I'm out here reckless, and now I'm doing all this
crazy stuff. Y'all do y'all even care? I said, because
at some point in time, these kids gonna get old,
they gonna be able to see this stuff and they
gonna say, well, mom, why was why was Shannon? Why
was it Shannon them in court? Why was shouting? My
daddy was in court five times, six times, eight times,

(39:49):
ten times and then what y'all gonna say, But he
was paying for but he was playing for private school,
he paying for college, he doing he paying for everything.
So why yeah, on that we better.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Said you weren't I'm assuming, I'm assuming you weren't as
fortunate in that area. I for me, this is where
this is weird to me to say, and the chat
probably won't, probably won't agree.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
But I like child support.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
I like child support when I was playing because I
wanted to be able to focus on the game of football.
Now the child support for me, I enjoyed the structure
of it because I need to be focused on this.
So I had no problem with the structured child support
that that I had going on, because listen, I need
to focus on the game. Whatever you need, whatever the

(40:38):
child needs, it's going to be taken care of. So
then when things changed in football, was no longer coming
around like everybody was okay, they understood that you give
them going others. Sometimes you have kids, know, they trying
to take you through the wringer, you know, when the
money's not the same. Oh, they trying to find ways
to continue to get to keep that train of that

(41:00):
trail of money always gone. No, no, issues. No, no
issues at all.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
You know what at Ojo And even when I left
the game. You gotta realize I left the game. My
kids were barely teenagers. And my people are like, well,
oh you go, okay, you're gonna go for child modifications.
I said, No, I said, because the kids have already
been established to this lifestyle. If they go down, if
they go down the list, they're not gonna be able
to have that. That's not their fault. They didn't ask

(41:28):
to come and they didn't ask to be put in
the situation. No, we're gonna keep everything the same. Now,
mind you, O Joe, my kids, I had my kids.
You get insurance five years after you retire. After that, man,
you know what insurance is for teenage kids. Yeah, don't
you tell me. Well, you ain't got to tell me

(41:50):
they can have kids. No, I know. Yeah, I'm putting that.
I ain't got no trouble. That's my But that's my
responsibility because I made them, and I told I promised.
My grandma. She's like, okay, boy, that's the only thing
my girl say. You take care of them kids. Okay, granted,
no problem, but that's all I said. That's the only
thing that I ended up telling my kids, my kids mom,
It's like y'all got man, y'all got people out here

(42:10):
thinking I'm crazy because every time Shanna, you know, because
it's it's public record, Oh Shannon got and and people
still like, well, you got all these you've been to
court ten times. Well it's child modification. They want to
bump and pay. No, Shanna and I have been reckless.
Shannon here doing what he's supposed to do, trying to
be the best person he can be, try to be

(42:32):
the best father he can be. And hey, I give
them credit because they did do a great job of
explaining to the kids, your dad has to do this
so you can have that. And they let me get
the kids during the summer. I put them in summer camp. Hey,
what y'all want to do? They go to summer camp
for three weeks. We do we know, we do stuff.
We go, we we go out to eat, we go

(42:53):
to At that point in time, what you know about
I take them that, I took him. I take it.
I took it the ESPN zone, you know, and so
we played. You know, I got a black jack table.
I'm teaching them how to play black James. We play
a monopoly. We played all the board games I got.
You know, I ain't no video I ain't no video
game buff o Joes. But you know they want to

(43:14):
play video game. They love it because they got something
they can beat me in. So so we we you know,
we we we we did. We did a lot. We did.
I did a lot when the time that I had them,
especially especially like Friday, Saturdays and Sundays. I'm training during
the week, but they could. Hey, we go into the
movies every weekend. There, let's go to the movies. Okay,

(43:35):
I'll put them in the movie theater. Say look, I'll
come back and get your X amount of time. Hey, yeah, icy,
is this big? Why both of y'all need a large,
A large, a bucket of popcorn? Watch you y'all y'all
eight nine years old? Why y'all can't share a bucket
of popcorn? But everybody got to get a jumbo popcorn.
Everybody got to get a jumbo slushy, everybody got to

(43:56):
get care. I love that.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
Do you know what A few like?

Speaker 3 (44:01):
You know, I never had on tourage before. You know,
I had friends. I had friends, that was it. But
it's something about when I have all the kids together,
and it's about eleven is about eleven of us. I'm somebody,
let somebody eleven of us all together?

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Man.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
You know, look, look, dog, you have to rid out
the whole tel Well, when we marbling through an airport?
Are we marbling in Jamaica? We in the Bahamas, we
in the d about dog? That is one of the
best feelings in the world. Man, So I love I
love it. Hell, you know, it's summertime almost here. Now
we got we got our annual trip every summer. I'm

(44:37):
taking all the kids to do bay.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Man.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Listen, I don't listen, boy, we we could have a time.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
He checked this out on you all the break. Check
this out. Sixty percent of NFL players have five bankruptcy
within twelve years of retiring. A Sports Illustrated article seventy
eight percent of NFL players sixty percent of NBA players
face serious financial hardships after retirement. Let me see, let
me say this again. Sixteen percent of NFL players have

(45:11):
five bankruptcy within twelve years of retiring. A Sports Illustrated
are article reports seventy eight percent of NFL players and
sixty percent of NBA players face serious financial financial hardship.
A seventy eight percent of NFL players sixty percent of

(45:31):
NBA players face serious financial hardships after retiring.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
Hey man, I mean the number.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
The numbers are there. The numbers have always been there.
That's why I've continued to preach it over and over
and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over. Not only have I preached it
over and over and over, I actually lived the lifestyle,
lived it, lived it. I've lived everything I preached over
the years, everything smart car, jewelry from Claire. Okay, now

(46:01):
I kind of changed up buying pieces here and there
that are the real.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
But just dogs.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
You should treat yourself.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
It's everybody always say. And they get caught up in
the lifestyle. They get caught up in the image and
having to look a certain way because you play a
certain sports, you gotta drive a certain car. Because you're
in the NFL. You're trying to impress this one, You're
trying to impress that one. It makes no sense. I
tell fellas all the time. In the NFL, it makes
no sense. Once you make it, once your name goes

(46:30):
across that ticket at the bottom, it doesn't even matter.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
They already think you got it.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
You in the NFL over the bicycle. They ride on
the back of that mood or ride on the head of
bars like we used to do.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
That point.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
We put somebody on the head of bars and somebody
on the back, and we stand up and the women.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
The women, they've already done their googles. They've done their googles.
They know what you're making. So you don't need to
be in the.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
Club popping bottles and the whole section is spending twenty
and thirty thousand.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
You ain't gotta do that. They gonna go home with
you anyway.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Whoever you want to talk to, they gonna talk to
you anyway.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Yeah, So it is what it is. I just I
just wish guys, you know, did a better job of
thinking because, oh Joe, you know, everybody think they're gonna
play forever. Oh Joe, you know that everybody think they're
gonna have a Tom Brady career.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Why that's hard.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
That's hard, bro. There's a reason why he's the only
only position player to play that length of time. You've
had kickers to play. But that's what we say position.
We talk about one of the positions that's not a specialty.
You know what I'm saying, Like a kid gunner. Those
guys can play snappers, but we talk about quarterback, wide receiver,

(47:51):
running back, old line, d line live. But one of those, bro,
you're not gonna play that long man, stack that paper
and there is no eas And now with the way
the money, with the money that they guys make, now man, please,
oh Joe. The Lakers playing to sid Lebron to any
term that he wants. The Lakers are hoping to retain

(48:11):
Lebron this offseason. Dave mcmnimon reported the Lakers intend to
have Lebron James come back on any terms he wants to,
whether it be a one year deal, two year deal,
three year deal, whatever. They love to continue to have
Lebron James and the Purple and Gold until he calls
it quits whenever. That may be no surprise. He's still
playing at an elite level. He gave it twenty five,

(48:31):
eight to seven this year. He's still box office, he's
still playing. He's shown no signs of decline. And it's
the Lakers. The Lakers are about stars. When you go look,
you go go, there's only a couple halfful of places
go to the Laker games and you see all the

(48:52):
stars lined up. You go to you go to the
Unnecked game, you see all the stars lined up. That's
what it's about, right, Stars attract stars.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Glad you just said that, because you just lead me
right into my question again. Chat y'all stay with me now.
I'm learning this basketball thing on the on the fly.
Give me, give me, give me another year or two.
I'm gonna be like Doris Burke and uncles and.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Steven A talking about that.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
I'm gonna be able to talk about this ship of depth.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
I tell you so.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
Lebron has a play option if it's at any term deal.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
He wants.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
What's stopping any other NBA team making a run for him?
Because you understand, even at his age, when you add
Lebron to a roster to me from the outside looking
in and watching him throughout the years, it makes that
team an immediate contender for a final, especially if he

(49:47):
if he goes to the right place. So there is
there a chance he needs l A or is he
staying there? And I know he won't be. I know
Lebron is not the greedy type because he.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
Makes so much off the court.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Will he take a will he take.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
A hometown discount? Shooting can add another piece, another big piece.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
No, I remember that. I remember Lebron James said after
he took that play cut in Miami. And if I'm
not mistaken in chat, you can correct me if I'm wrong.
He says, I'll never play on anything less than a
MAX deal again, because he's saying it's not his job
to fix out how to bit people in under the

(50:29):
cat and do all that other stuff. So no, I don't,
I don't. I don't believe he does. I think he
has the one year he has the player option, he
could opt out of that inside another two year deal
with a player option, he could opt out and sign up,
you know, just the one year deal. It is his choosing.
I think Lebron, I think he believes that the level

(50:52):
that he's playing that currently, he believed he can play
that level. He can hold that level for another thing.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
So how about you don't pigeonhole a team, because think
about what you just said in Miami. He said, I
will never ever play on anything other than a MAC contract.
But when he wasn't on the MAC contract and allowed
the other pieces to be a part of the team,
what did he win too?

Speaker 1 (51:12):
What HM two and two championships? Case closed right there?
Solved it got to solve it.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
You take up, you take a little bit less because
you make so much away from the game of basketball.
You get you another another three headed monster, the pair
with you and eighty another score. Hell know, Kevin Durant
right down the street. You know, Phoenix ain't too far.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Yeah, But the thing, the thing is ojo. What do
you say? I mean, let's just say, for the sake
of argument, if you say, okay, Sharon, I need you, Okay, Shannon,
you can make fifty five, fifty six million, I need
you to go down to, say forty eight. He's not
going down million. That's disrespectful a player, I'm saying. But

(52:02):
see that.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
But the players, the players, player option is fifty one
right now, right that's that's that's the player option fifty one?

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Yes? Would it? Being Lebron?

Speaker 4 (52:10):
I can see Lebron say, okay, it's fifty one.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
I can go down to forty five because I could
make up the million that I'm that I'm missing in
other areas, so many other areas.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Based on what he has going on. He ain't have
missed that. Yeah, he probably does seventy He probably does
seventy to eighty million.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Again, that's why I said he's one of the few
that can do.

Speaker 6 (52:32):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Tom Brady in New England married to the richest but
the richest, bringing in forty four men.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Here.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
You know what, I think, it's okay, I can take
these pay cuts so we can build a team necessary
around me to make sure we're a contender year in
the year out. And look how many chips they won,
six of them.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Oh Joe, what billionaire you know got to be a
billionaire by giving discount and giving money away. They might
give that away once they get to a certain level.
But the one thing we know about them they don't
need any more money. But they don't need any less.
See that, you're right back that you don't get to be.

(53:13):
And it's reported that he's building one hundred million dollars
home up in Brentwood. Now what you think the likelihood
of somebody build one hundred million dollar let's just say,
oh yo oh cho building a fifty million dollar home
in Miami. You think, oh, you're interested in going somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
Okay, Okay, see I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
See now that that piece of information leads he will
be there, He'll be there, He'll be.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
There, y'all. Are y'all looking Jeff Bezos started? So did
Jeff Bezel did that when he was starting Amazon? Or
after he had established Amazon?

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Yeah, right right right. Yes, I'm not saying people do
give money away, but it's once they established that. Jeff
Bezos is probably on this dividend the loan, he's probably
doing three to five billion loan.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Did you think about what you just said?

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Like sit back and like close eye, like chat, close eyes.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
And listen to what just said.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
What does he make a month three to five billion?

Speaker 5 (54:25):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (54:26):
All you brainiacs out there, think of a service or
a need for the masses, and you too can be
a billionaire.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
But see, here's the thing. Everybody always says, take a
pay cut. But if your job, if your job says,
you know what, let's just say, for the sake of argument,
I'm gonna give who everybody's in the chat. You make
one hundred and fifty thousand a year, and they say,
you know what, guys, we need you to take a
twenty percent pay cut because we want to get helling
in payroll. That's going to really help this company function

(54:58):
at a high level, and then we want to call
and finances. Y'all doing it because you remember, it's for
the betterment of team. You know, it's for a better
minute of the team. Now, because y'all quick to jailer
an athlete, take a pay cut, take a picut, and
take a take a pay cut. But I'm just asking
for the betterment of the team. Would y'all be willing

(55:20):
to take a pay cut to get healing in finance,
healing in HR in call and finance? Hell no, But
y'all quick to jail an athlete. And people always say
I would never, Oh Joe, I was that person. I
remember when I was growing up and I saw somebody
spent five hundred five I said, Man, I never spent
five hundred thousand for a house, or I'll never spend

(55:43):
seventy one hundred thous dollars for a watch. You say
that because you're in the position that you're in. Once
you get to a certain level, you do things you
think differently. Most definitely, did you did you ever think,
oh yo, you was spending five hundred dollars for a

(56:04):
pair of sneakers? Considered that we was buying pro kads
and Chuck Taylor's for twenty five dollars.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Did never thought about it? Speaking of speaking of shoes,
you remember Trauble Fox You remember you remember Elasi?

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Yeah? Man, yeah, yeah, what about rules? Remember rules with
the zip on the side?

Speaker 4 (56:25):
Remember rules?

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Man? Look, look look at this one. Look at it,
Look at this one. Look at this one. She just
woke up in the out of nap. Nah, I ain't
the baby?

Speaker 4 (56:41):
Yeah, come on rail yeah?

Speaker 6 (56:44):
Real?

Speaker 1 (56:45):
What you doing on this time with that reel? Okay?
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (56:53):
Pajamas that he always want to put me in the
camera looking at.

Speaker 5 (56:59):
You?

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Why?

Speaker 5 (57:02):
Why?

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Why you? What you're doing up this time of that rail?

Speaker 4 (57:04):
Early had a long day today?

Speaker 1 (57:08):
How early is early? Well, so you know what you
need to get your husband out there and get them
and get them working too, because two can stack paper
better than what whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa? Wait, send
of down, man, I'm working, I'm working.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
Matter of fact, you're not love, You not love to
say what you're doing?

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Okay now, man, no, man, man, okay, hey, hey, reel,
I got to tell you what oh you're making? So
you can cut, because you can cut some of the
people some of his bread whoa wha timet time, my
time out. You you understand.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
I'm I'm in a very fortunate situation to where she's
the breadwinner. She brings in more money, which is why
I don't want to sign. No, I don't want to
sign them papers. I'm I'm trying to protect myself. Worry
about it, rail, I'm trying to protect myself now, I mean, listen, listen,
we have to do that. Look look how women have
done Look how women have done us our years. Look

(58:00):
how they've done us throughout the years. We've always come
on to lose again because when they decide they want
to leave, they take half everything.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
They take't half the money at all.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
The you said it just right, so they I'm trying
to protect myself. If she wakes up one day, you
know how women are. One day they love you Monday,
on Friday, they wake up, they don't feel the same
no more. That's life. That's the reality of life. And
I try to stay within the realms of reality. So
if she decides, you know, you don't want to be

(58:32):
it no more.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
I need the protection.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
Why would I sign a prenup if you leave? I
want half of what you got and that's final. I
don't care what people think about me. I don't care shit.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
And you can take you who had just leave me?
The kids.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
Take you?

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Who are that what they do normally do on the time,
they take half the money in all the hu has.
They ain't no fair trade to me. Hey, Johonne, you
gotta leave. You gotta leave third over here with me
thirty on Mondays, then third on Mondays and Thursday. She
got to drop it off. That's all I'm saying. But
as the Thursday drop it off, that's a good one. Hey.

(59:12):
Sons fired Frank Bogel. Phoenix Fried fired Frank Vogel after
just one season. The decision comes after the number six
seed Sons was swept by the number three seed, the
Timberwolves in the first round. Three of the first four
three of the first round losses came by double digit
The Son brought in Boguel on a reported five year,
thirty one million dollar deal last offseason to replace Monty Williams.

(59:35):
Phoenix then brought went out and acquired Bradley Bell to
form the Big three along with Kevin Durant and Devin Booker.
But the star study Sons didn't come close to reaching
their championship aspirations. They finished sixth in the Western Conference,
where the record of forty nine and thirty three as
Bill missed Bradley Bill missed twenty nine regular season game,
Booker missed fourteen. Kevin duran seven.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
I got, I got my hand up some waiting on
the call me because call on me, because I feel
like I'm in class as I'm learning the NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Okay, can I can? I can I ask a question? Okay? Okay?
So the Sun job.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
Again for me?

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Service level from the outside looking in Bradley Beal, Devin Booker,
Kevin Durant, I'm thinking.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
All world perfect, who wouldn't want to coach there?

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
But when I look at it is a Sun job,
a trap job in the NBA, because I think it's
a setup for failure, because I think in management, whatever
coach they bring in with a team like that, with
a three headed months like that, were players of that caliber,
especially with the kind of kind of money they're being played,

(01:00:47):
I think in championship or bus.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
So it is a setup. It is m hm, well, well,
who's the best fit? You know?

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
NBA coaches, you know, you know, you know better than
not just what coach out there that's available is the
best fit for that situation, knowing that if you don't
win a championship immediately, you probably want and done.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Well, here's the thing they seem to be all Arrow
seemed to be pointing towards Mike Budenholzer, who was the
head coach of the Milwaukee Bucks just a year ago,
and then they fired him, fired Bud and then brought
in Adrian Griffin, who they fired him forty three games
into the season, and brought in Doc Rivers and so

(01:01:39):
many Williams went to Detroit. They brought in Frankie v
gave a five year deal thirty one million dollars to
coach their Big three. And the Big three comes with expectations,
Oh Joe, you see the championship. And that's what it
comes down to. Is it's really that simple. It's sad,
that's what it's come down to, because everything is about

(01:02:00):
championships because we've made it forget that. If you don't
want to see the thing is now, if you don't
want a championship, you're boom. I mean that that's that's
it's sad, but that's what it is. It's you're bom
and so the the there is no more developing. They say, well,
once we put it together, it's like, oh Joe, if

(01:02:20):
we put chocolate, Carol Mel and peanuts together, it's supposed
to be great candy, but nothing else. I don't want
to hear nothing. We gave you three of the best
and greetors that you could possibly have for candy. And
so when you put three top level players together, people
automatically assume that you're supposed to win a championship, and
when you don't, it's messed up.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
So you answer them a question is basically a trap job.
I'm not sure why anyone would want that, but it
is what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
For the money.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Money, How you gonna come in coaching. You're gonna be
fired if it doesn't work out, just for the money.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
But I'm take thirty. I'm gonna take thirty a median
with me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Hey, since since we're on basketball, I just want I
just want to show you see if you remember these.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Avilla Yeah that was a bell right eighties Yeah I
remember them. Yeah, Yeah, I'm gona kill him'ma kill Himhen
you're gonna kill your needs a fashion this fact, but yeah,
that walking around They have it. Yeah, yeah, they know,

(01:03:30):
but they have it. Gonna be flying you, ain't y'all
remember flying? These live on