April 12, 2024 • 62 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to infamous former NFL star O.J. Simpson passing away at 76, new Pittsburgh Steelers QB Russell Wilson saying he "opened doors" for current black QBs, Cam Newton speaking out on Kirk Cousins' contract, and much more!
2:45 - Start of show
5:30 - OJ Simpson passes away from Prostate Cancer at 76
20:30 - Russell WIlson says he opened doors for a lot of black QBs
36:30 - Cam Newton weighs in on Kirk Cousin contract
46:30 - Cam doesn’t believe Jerry will let Dak become the leader he needs to become
52:30 - Was Tom Brady showing his true personality in New England?
01:00:00 - Tom Brady not opposed to a comeback?
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news catt Hey OJ Simpson Orenthal James Simpson, one of
(03:59):
the greatest running backs of all time. Dotts had to
succumb to prostate cancer he had along he was fighting
a long battle of cancer.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
He was the age he was at the age of
seventy six. O. J.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Simpson known for his football prows on the days of
use at USC and the Buffalo Bills. Later, he's more
infamously known for going on trial for the murder of
his ex wife, Nicole Brown. Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman.
He was a He was acquitted of the criminal child trial,
but later convicted on civil charges.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Caitlyn Jenner tweeted, let's take a look at the tweet.
Do we have it up? We're gonna have it up.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Ash, sorry for the delay, but Caitlyn Jenner tweeted, very tacky,
very distasteful.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Basically what he said was good rhythms.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
No matter what you think of someone, Oho, you don't
celebrate someone's death.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
You never do that.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
You never, you never.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
You know, there's one thing about God. God don't play.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
You don't celebrate nobody's death, even if you despise that
person based on personal issues y'all might have gone through.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
Now you have to remember now o J.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Murder the case he was acquitted, that obviously tried in
the civil case. Now also again, God don't like ugly.
If I'm not mistaken, brother, I mean sister, sister brother.
Kitlyn Jenna also had an issue. Twenty fifteen fatal car
accident killed somebody. Hold you no, you didn't know she didyeah,
(05:38):
don't don't.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Nah everything that OJ people allegedly he killed Nicole Brown
Simpson and Ronald godman. He went on trial twelve men
and women. A jura of his period says, we don't
believe he did it. Yes, so y'all have a reasonable
doubt they'll quitted it right. He went to trial on
(05:59):
the civil charges. He was convicted. So you mean to
tell me there's no denying that at the hands of
Caitlyn Jenner someone lost their life.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
So howard now she did? She? I don't if I'm
not mistaken, I don't recall her spending any not one.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Day in jail. Yes, sir, but you you you say
good riddles, you happy for the death. You know, God
don't like my grumysed to always say what I was
a little boy, Oh Joe, God don't like ugly. Sometimes
you don't like pretty. You better be careful.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
You never know.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You gotta be careful because you never know. You never
know your time is up. Every time we're born, we
all come with the expression now we don't know what
that day is. But what you don't want to do
is you don't want to speed it up. Because the
tongue is powerful. Power celebrate somebody else. Listen, if you're
gonna celebrate somebody else's death, Now you got to be
careful and God, God can show you better to could
tell you absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Oh, Joe, I'm a little older than you, and so
I know, Ja, I'm fifty six nine.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I was there. Listen.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, OJ, I'm not gonna tell you. I can tell
you where I was, but go ahead and bring it.
I'm fall back. I'm piggyback off of you. If you
probably around my age, maybe a little older.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
O J. Simpson was the guy I'm talking about.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
O J.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Simpson.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
We're not talking about what transpired in ninety four coming forward.
We're talking about Yeah, prior Phil if you played running back,
you wanted to get the number twenty two. You wanted
to be the juice because and plus he was really
the first black athlete to have commercial success. Everybody remember
OJ running through the airport jumping over everything that point.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
I tried that on cars.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
He had an Orange Juice commercial. He was really the
first black and TV. Remember OJ. What was that movie
that he was in with Elizabeth Breaking Gun? The Naked Gun. Yeah,
he was a naked gun, but he was in with
Elizabeth Montgomery. Uh, what was what was the name of
(08:02):
that movie? It wasn't burning. It was a killing affair. Yeah,
o J got credits, major credits on his resume. So
he was really the first black athlete to have commercial appeal.
Now we know, uh Muhammad Ali, but Muhammad Ali didn't
have the commercial appeal because of what transpired of him
(08:25):
becoming a Muslim and not wanting to go to Vietnam.
He's like they'd be at kongs. Ain't called me no
N word. I ain't going over to killing the medicine
people when y'all y'all, y'all want me to fight over there,
but y'all won't fight for me right here.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Oh J had commercial appeal, And so everybody.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Dudes, dudes like healthy dudes, chubby dude, Man, I want
to be running back. Man, get your fat butter on
the offensive defensive line. You ain't getting no twenty two.
They ain't got but one twenty two. Oj Ojo and
this dude you two under found, tell me about you
gonna be a running back?
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Bro?
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Oh J was it?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Now a lot of people try to erase what he
did on the field because of what transpired in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Four off the field.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, I believe Look, everybody knows what he did. He
ran the football the first he rushed for two thousand
yards and fourteen games, and fourteen in Buffalo. You know
what the weather gets like. You have played the Buffalo, Joe.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, I played it my flow twice, so you know.
And New York again cold in New York, it does.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So I just like I said, I don't celebrate death.
No matter what you what you think he may or
may not have done. I'm still not celebrating his death
because I just know one thing. In nineteen ninety four
two three families lives changed forever. Oh j kids never
had peace because everybody looked at them with a side
(09:57):
eye and a J did I Cole Brown Simpson, her
family was ever for what's never the same? Ron Goldman
was the game never the same. Yeah, they never were
ever going to be able to hug their love was
and tell them I love you. So I empathize with
(10:17):
the families. Yeah, but I don't. I don't celebrate someone's death.
That's not that's judge. I you know, first of all,
and we're not gonna reach Joe. We're not going to
retry the case. First of all is thirty years ago.
And second of all, we're not qualified.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
No at all at all. And and and people got
to be very careful. I think we become a society
that is very numb when it comes to this very numb.
We're very numb because we're so used to seeing it
constantly every single day. And if it's someone that is
not loved beloved by by the masses, and you have
any type of mistakes or ill will that you've done
(10:55):
in the past, those mistakes are consistently brought up all
the time, especially in his case, being that it was
such a global impact during that time in nineteen ninety
four when that incident happened, and obviously the ruling, the
ruling and the verdict didn't sit.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Well with a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Obviously it was celebrated by some and then by some
they hated it, and so they became to hate him,
you know, for for obvious reasons.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
We should hit a lot of people. We should hit
a lot of people, because there's a lot of people.
Yeah that look that that that that's the opposite color
of us, that's murdered some of our people.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
And we have to what was the kid? What was
the guy in Florida? They killed that young boy?
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Brother George Brothers.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, examment, Yeah, yeah, The first thing I heard was Shannon.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
He went the trial and he got off let it go.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, well if you know this, And I'm not gonna
get on no soap box and I'm not gonna preach tonight,
but I'm just telling you they we always asked black
people to let it go. We always got to be
We always got to be the bigger person. We always
got to charge to the cheat.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Yeah, got to you got to they listen.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
They want us to always give grace, always always want
you to give grace.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
But that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
But when do we get to receive it.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Oh, it's gonna be a long time. And when we
do get to receive it, win gonna be here. I
can tell you that when we do get to receive
that grace for everything, no matter how long ago it was,
we won't be around her to know what it feels like.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
I can tell you I remember what I told you.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Ya tell her about the great poet Nikki Giovanna. She
would explain it to Uh James Baldwin. She said, I
love you the most, but I get the least of you.
We give the most grace, but we see receive the.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Least of it.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Oh yeah, and you know what, the way it's always
been set up, and it's always been set up that way.
Stay with me, now, it's always been set up that way.
So we had the first the first thing that happened.
You have to understand how this world in general is built.
It's just the one. It's the suppress. I'm not here,
I'm not I'm not here to preach on those soap
(13:03):
box either. But again, they always want, you know who,
to take the ladder and take the smarter route. They
want you to do everything in peace always.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
But nothing ever, nothing in nothing in American history was
ever about peace. How do you think America got it?
How do you think America got in freedom? They got
tired of the British telling them taxation with our representation.
We wanted them a religion, We wanted freedoms. That's why
they don't that tea in the in the Boston Harbor.
(13:37):
No name one thing that's ever been a people what
is protest? Because the one thing we know about power,
people that have it will very seldom relinquish it voluntarily.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
That ain't happening.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
You got to take it if you want it.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Man, Think about heavy, How did how did we attain
everything over here in the States in general, coming in
nicely so and pretty smiling. How is everything attained in general?
You got to take what you want and then once
you got it, then you have to pre to the masses. Well,
(14:12):
you need to do everything peacefully and maybe he'll get
with you.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
But that's what he ay.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
You know, in time, in time, y'all didn't y'all didn't
ask the Native Americans for this land. Y'all didn't say,
you know what, hey, we're gonna make a deal with you.
If you're land, you've been here for umpteen years, how
about we purchase it from you. Huh, that's what you did.
But oh then you put them on it. You put
(14:39):
them on the trail of tears. So, like I said,
and I'm sorry, I'm not trying to go down no
history lesson with you. But I empathize for the Brown Simpson,
Nicole Brown Simpson's family, Ronald Goldman's family that doesn't see
people a lot of times. Oh, your people say, well,
(14:59):
now they can have peace. There is no peace. I
don't get to I've been without my loved one for
thirty years. I don't get ye. Yeah, you can't break
someone dying, it doesn't give me peace because my loved
one is still gone. Now if that person went away
and then my loved one came back, nah, I get
to have peace, O Joe.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I don't get no peace out.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Of this peace yep and again, and that that's a sign,
even if you don't say anything, that's a sign of
actually celebrating death and feeling like, Okay, now I'm at
peace because the individual that might be responsible for this
incident is finally gone and resting in heaven or wherever
it may be. But again, people that's watching people in
the chat, you got to be careful because the tongue
is very very very very powerful, very powerful. Don't wish
(15:45):
no ill will on nobody, especially once they transitioned. O. J.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Simpson dead of cancer at the age of seventy six.
That the family's impacted by on both sides. God be
with you.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Oh yo, here it is.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Russell Wilson says he opened doors for black quarterback.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Anyway, Russe became the second black quarterback to win the Lombardy. Normally,
the second person to do something doesn't get the credit
that the first person.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
But we're talking about that.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Russell said, that mark the shift in perception of black
men in his position. Damn so much for what Doug
Williams did. Okay, but anyway, Shaq Harris, Joe Simple okay,
Marlon Brisco, but anyway for me able to go to
back to back Super Bowl then win one of them,
I think it opened a lot of doors.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Now you see guys like Patrick Mahomes who's won it,
and it's really just us so far, but there's more
to come. What I love to see is guys getting
drafted early and a lot of teams these days have
black quarterbacks playing for them. I think one of the
biggest blessings of my career so far as I've been
fortunate to be able to open doors for others. Hold on, So,
(16:53):
what role to Doug Williams play the first African American
quarterback to actually get you and win the superins MV
So what about Shaq Harris? What about Joe gilliam So?
What did Marlon Brisco do? Jack Harritt?
Speaker 4 (17:08):
So, so what about Steve McNair.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
They opened no doors, Donald mcnaw, Michael Vick, So they
opened no doors?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
It was you?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah, I think you know what he is a part
of it. He's a part of it, especially in the
in the modern day era of the game of football.
You know, you got to think we got people in
the chat me.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I don't want to cut you off for me and
to be able to go to back to back Super
Bowl to win one of them, I think.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I opened up a lot of doors.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
He said, yea, where where he's saying a part of
That's not what he said. That's what you're saying. Let's
take him no, no, no, I don't want you to add anything.
I don't want you to take anything out. Let's take
him at what he said. Yes, sir, oh I created
Hey when I talk, not kept I created it. So Joe, Hey,
you ain't got no part of this. So Joe I
(17:56):
did this with Nightcap.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Huh yeah, I give it.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
You say he could have said. He could have said
we in that case as far as the team that
he was a part of.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
IM just trying to help you out. So what role
did Doug Williams, What role did that play?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I think more so for Russell's sake, he was speaking
on behalf of the modern day era, younger kids, younger
generation that the generation that probably won't know about the
Doug Williams or the other individuals that that the Steve
McNair's and the other other quarterbacks that you name that
were black, that that have won. The kids in today's
(18:39):
era might not recognize or know about them. So I
in a sense, I think Russell Wilson would be speaking
on behalf of his era and the era of younger
generation kids that are playing right now. As far as
the doors that he opened from the quarterback position.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
That's the problem with society right now, especially the young. Yes, sir,
just because you don't know it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Just because just because people don't know about Doug Williams
or Shaq Harris, A Marlin Brisko, a Jefferson Street Joke,
Shaques Harris, uh Speed McNair, Randall Cunning, that doesn't mean
they didn't exist.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
Everybody you just name, think about this, everybody just name.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
If you were to ask a kid in high school
right now, ask him about those names, they probably wouldn't know.
They probably they probably wouldn't know because they don't know
the history of the game and how far they know
how far back it goes. But to be able to
name some of the players like you just did. It
wouldn't resonate with them, O Joe. For those that would
read this, read this article that Russell Wilson, they will
understand and know who Russell Wilson is because it's a
(19:39):
little bit more relatable to the youngest generation, the generation
that's playing right now and that generation that will come after.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
So I understand what he's saying. But you are right,
You are right.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You know you have to you have to get credit
where credit is due for those that paved the way
before you, before you came and did the same thing
you did, based on what you're talking about. But I
really think he's addressing those of the younger generation today
that have no idea who then running. Randall cunning Hams
were the Steve McNair's. Oh I forgot about even were
thinking about. We forgot Warren Moon.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Oh I forgot about. I forgot about Warren. I've got
about Warren.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Still one of the prettiest deep balls ever. Actually, matter
of fact, I went to the Pro Bowl with Warren Moon,
also with bit them. Yeah, oh Joe, it was Doug Williams.
It was Doug getting too in winning the Super Bowl
that changed a lot Like Okay, they can do it.
They can process information fast. They can't think of this position.
(20:38):
You don't have to be mobile. Doug william was a
prototypical dropback quarterback. Show a quarterback. Shaq Harris now Marlon
Brisco run around. He's from Denver, Broncos. He ran around,
and a lot of others. Randall cunning had legs. H
Warren was a drop back passer. Uh, we forgot about
Dante Colepepper.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Have I forgot about it?
Speaker 4 (21:00):
There?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Most most black quarterbacks were moving. They were thought of
his mobile. They there are a lot of guys that
probably could have. But how many guys that played quarterback
got moved to running back?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Wide receiver a dB mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Hell they're still to this day, they still trying to
do Hell, they try to do it. Lamar coming out
into the draft. Why don't you come my hend and
run the route?
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
What was there?
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Was from Tampa from Indiana, Ram lil With then there,
but there.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Was a wide receiver. I think that ended up he
ended up transit. Uh of which positions? Cordell Stewart STUPI yeah,
school st.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Vin Young?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
So what about Vin Young? Rookie of the Year that's
all I'm saying. Oh Joe, look, I don't mind it.
I don't mind people giving people credit, but this, but
we gotta stop thinking like, well, I didn't know that.
Just because you don't know something doesn't mean it didn't happen.
And we do a lot of that with history. O Joe,
(22:05):
I didn't know Michael Jackson sold that many records. I
didn't know what Ritha Franklin was this good. I didn't know.
Just because you don't know it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, we got We also got to stay within the
context of what he was talking about. He talked, he
did talk about winning a winning Super Bowls. So Doug
Williams won to.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
And was super Bowl MVP and was the first round
RAF pie. Right, so what so what's he saying again?
Who was the second man to go to the movie?
Only people remember Neil Armstrong? Who was the second man
that brought yourself for minuy mile? They only remember Roger Banister. Yeah,
(22:46):
so who's the first man to run a sub nine
seven hundred meters? They're only gonna remember who you saying, vote,
who's the first man to go nine to six? So
unless somebody goes sub ninety five, it's not gonna matter,
o JO.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
You know how this thing works.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, yeah, It's always been that way.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
That way, that's why. Yeah, what the receivers want to
do OJO. They want to be the first to get
that two K God, it don't matter. You could have
ten guys OJ OJ. Even though Ed has the record
twenty one oh five, you would go back to OJ
because OJ was the first.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
They thought it was. They thought no one could do it.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Not in the fourteen game season two thousand.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Yeah, that's a lot of running that boy.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I just I just don't I don't understand what he
was hoping to accomplish.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
By saying what he's said, he opened doors. Huh.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
No, it was the guys that came before you, that
had success that open doors for you.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
It was the Randall Cunninghams.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
It was the Michael Biggs, it was the Steve McNair,
it was the Dante Cole Peppers, the Donovan mcnabs, it
was Uh. We just talked talked about Doug. I know
Doug barrywell, Doug with winning Graham State, So I know
Doug very well. In the Yeah, Shaq Harris was with me,
Shaq Harris Rams I was. He with me in Baltimore.
(24:13):
Marlon Briscoe was in Denver, Jeff the Street, Joe. They
opened the door for you.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
It was them, Yeah, I think, I mean, I mean,
I oppose me, obviously, it was. It was. It was
not a video, but a interview about how he about
how he feels about opening some of the doors based
on what he's accomplished and what he's done as a quarterback.
I think he could have been a little bit more
in depth when in went in a little bit more
depth about it about those that you know, opened the
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doors for him as well. You know, he just didn't
get into into all of that, but I kind of
see where he's going and and for me, you know.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Russell forget the football player.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
For me as an individual, he's an inspiration for one
as a father, as a family man. You know, seeing
some of the things that he does away from the
game of football are very inspiring, you know, and I'm listen,
I'm not even ashamed to do it. I'm one that
picks up from everybody and the way they move and
the way they operate away from the game of football.
Because I can always be better in many different facets
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in my life, and I can always pick up from
little things that others do, and Russell is one of
those that I do find inspiring in other ways where
I can improve myself as well.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
But again, based on what he said, I understand what
you're saying.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Uncle.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
He could have died a little deeper and given credit
to those that also paid the way for him to
open the doors for him. But I think he was
more more focused on what he did for the game
during his time.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
When people say, was Shennon you revolutionize the tight end
position because the way the tight ends play, No, Kellen
Winslow and Ozzie was doing what I was doing before
I was even thought about doing it. I say, the
only difference between what Shannon Sharp did, Ozzie and and
and and and Kellen Winslow Sr. Is that there are
more guys to do it. Yeah, what I was with
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our big wide receiver that they moved the tight end. Yes,
could I do things that other tight ends could only
dream of doing? Yes, But Kellen did that, Ozzie did that.
They're just more guys, They're more kittles. There's more Laporters.
There's more Hawkinson, there's more Travis Kelsey's, there's more the
kids up in the Kid Up in Buffalo. There's more
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them Knocknay Yeah, Daulphin Knobs, the Dog Shows, the Frankstons.
There's just more guys to do it. Oh Joe, Yes,
I was unique in my time, just like Oli, Ozzie
and Kellen was.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Oh I opened the door, Well let me that's your question.
Who over the door for you?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
How you got your ass in the house so somebody
had to open the door for you?
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's that's that's taking a deeper
That's how I.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Look at it.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
And I'm when when I talked to Killer and I
talked to Kelson, I talked to somebody some of these
young tight ends, and they give me, they give me
my flowers. I'm appreciative. But I know because I grew
up and I was watching Killing and I was watching Ozzy.
I watched those guys like guys. Now getting a thousand
yards is not to say guys because they throw them
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all more. There was really only two guys in my
era that could go get a thousand yards. That was
me and Ben Coates. Tony came and came a little later,
but it was just it was me and Coats, just
like with in Ozzie's time, it was Ozzy killing Todd
Christensen was another was another pass catching.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Tight end for the Raiders. Right, but.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Guys that can move. Now, these guys are moving like
I moved. That shouldn't have been a problem. Hell, I'm
only two on twenty five, twenty eight pounds. Now these
guys move like that at two forty five two empty, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Running, But I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Bro, Russ, you if you've had an unbelievable career thus far,
and I believe you will continue and I hope you
the best. I hope you can get back to what
you were in Seattle for Pittsburgh. But Bro, you got
you gotta stop this. You ain't open no doors because
somebody the door was open before you walked.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
In, the door that somebody left open for you.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
That's like when you're going you're going somewhere, oh Joe,
and you see you you open the door, and the
lady walking behind you, how she gonna say, I opened
the door though you did not held the door open
for you. Yeah, that's what Doug Williams did. That's what
Warren Moon and Dante and Viig and Marlon Briscoe in
Jefferson Street, Joe and Shaqua Harris, Steve McNair, Randall Cunningham, Dante,
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Cole Pepper, Donovan mcdam.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
That's what they did.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
They held the door open for you, Warren Moon, Rodney
p They held a door open for you.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Bro. Yeah, that's that's a completely different that's completely different conversation.
That's you know, it's funny, that's a completely different conversation
based on the question that might have been asked.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
So, but I get where you're going with it.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
But he would have had to divert based on what
was asked and what they were talking about in general,
and then brought up, well, this is a B and
C while I was able to do what I was
able to do, and these are the people that opened
the door for me. So, I mean, I don't know,
but I understand completely. I understand exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
If you listen to comedians m hm, listen to how
they talk. They pay homage to the priors, to the
Eddie Murphys, to the George Carlins, to the Paul Moore them,
to the Red Foxes to the Robin Harrison, Robin Harrison,
use me to the Bernie Max Clip Wilson. Yeah, bro
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comedy been going a long time. Black quarterbacks been playing.
So to twenty twelve with the first year black quarterbacks
came into existence, pay homage. Listen to Beyonce how she
talks in reverence to those that came before her. Listening
at the guy that talked in reverence of how people
came before them and opened the doors. The black actors,
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the black actors and actresses, now they're just I guess
they just go by one to just actors.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
You don't say actors and actresses. I guess whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But anyway, when blacks would do an outstanding ain't.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Even getting no nomination.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, I think Haddie McDaniel was the first one to
win a supporting oscar for Gone with the Win.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
What was that thirty six.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Had a I think Sidney Poitier was the first black
male to win one, and then obviously Denzel and you got.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Mahearsal a li.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
It was thirty act think it was thirty nine Gone
with the Wind, But of the Brick Book was written
in thirty six, So I just like I said, I'm
one on yo. I'm I'm big on giving credit words due.
I'm big on that, O Joe. I look, I ain't discovered,
I ain't discovered anything. I'm not finna say here. I'm majella. No,
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I'm Lewis and Clark. And I was the first to
do the X, Y and.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Z because I'm not, well, yeah, you're right, you're right
by I just try I just try to.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
I just try to.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I just tried to leave the Broncos tight end position,
the Ravens tight end position, and the position as a
whole and a better position than I found it. And
it just goes to show you that, you know what, Hey,
undersized guy can play this position. That's all I want
to do. I ain't no, I'm the first, and I
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just Cam Newton was my guest this week on Club
Sha Shade. Shout out to Cam. I really appreciate that
bro among them anything among the many things that he
talked about Kirk Cousins and the contract that's gone viral,
Let's take a listen to what Cam had to say.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
Yes, sir, what the Falcons paid Kirk Cousins, they could
have got Cam Newton justin fields and Michael Vic for
that price, giving this person the money coming off of injury.
So how am I supposed to feel because the same
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questions and the same concerns that you had with me.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Obviously you don't know overlook that you see you don't
have those concerns with him.
Speaker 7 (32:35):
And if you give Kirk Cousins my resume, he probably would.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Have gotten more. Mmmm. Wow, Hey, what what's your first
of all? Cam? Mike Bighd, I got too old?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Now whether or not you can you seriously want to
play football, that's something that you, your agent and the
team would have to work out.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, my surprise justin Fields because you and I both
thought justin Fields would be Michael Big two point Oh.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
Definitely thought he was going there. Definitely thought he was
going there.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Oh, Joe with textbook, you can't draw off a better
situation Atlanta justin Field from Burbon day he kid he
caught five.
Speaker 8 (33:20):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I was like, oh, yeah, this ain't about to be
lit Mercedes Ben, don't about to be Lenny Lendy. But
obviously they went another direction and they like a lot
of I mean obviously with medicine. Now, o, Joe, Achilles
injury is not a death sentence like what once was.
We saw Kevin Durant come from come back from an
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achilles injury tear, and he's might be playing better than
he did pre stealing fishing. We watched Dan Dann Marino
toward his achilles and he tells you he was he
was never the same. I mean he was never he
was never Mike Vig but he said he was never.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
He had that. You know that. That's the little bigger
yoke with Daddy what I see if But yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Uh, I mean, he he he made he makes some points.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
He's like, he makes he makes a point. But you
have to understand the owners like who they like. The
owners will always like what they like. And based on
Kirk cousins resume, despite his lack of playoff appearances, his
lack of Super Bowl appearances, they understand what he does
during the regular season and they believe he's the one
for the organization. Organization that can come in and will
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put up crazy numbers during the regular season, crazy numbers offensively.
From an offensive standpoint, what they're going to do offensively
is they're gonna throw the ball over the place. Kyle
Pitts is gonna have a better season needed. He had
his rookie year. Drake London is going to have a
better year. Actually, he's gonna have his best year ever
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because of the person that is.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
At should have more lanes to run boxes.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
Because of Bjhon Robinson.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Is the ability to run the ball, catch the ball
out the backfield. That makes that offense, that offense that
much more deadly, and it makes Kirk cousin job that
much more easier because you have a running back like
that where they're gonna have to stack the guy damn
box and bring somebody down in the box. And what
do you think Kyle Pitt's gonna do? What you think
Drake London gonna do. They're going to feed off of
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Kirk Cousins, who is going to wing it. He's a
gun slinger. I'm not saying a gun slinger from the
point of like Brett Favar Aaron Rodgers. But he listen,
he gonna wing it every time.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
Every time.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
It's like, uh, Cousins, it wasn't like he was mobile
to begin with. He's a drop drouarter back again with
so it's not like he's losing anything. He losing right, Okay,
So he ran so now he goes from a five
four forty to a five five five six.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
He ain't going no way anyway.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Yeah, when he got a run, he can then let's
put it. Put it to you like that.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Well, as long as it's as long as there's thirty
short anything. Well we called three yards the lest he
ain't getting on that joe unless it's twenty five and
they way way down the field.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Right right, Yeah, but I understand what Camra saying. Yeah,
I understand what camera saying completely. But again I look
at the resume and where kirk Cousins has done when
he was healthy. Whether it was with the Red I
mean sorry, whether it's with the Commanders, whether it's with
the Vikings, you understand, and you know what you're getting.
As long as you have the supporting cast around him,
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you have the pass catches around him. Oh, it's gonna
be maybe a forty five hundred, maybe a five thousand
yard season, you never know. But I think that's what
the Falcons are baking on and getting the kirk Cousins
that we saw with the Redskins and get oh my god,
the Kirkus we saw with the Commanders.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
For the kirk Cousins, we saw with the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
And Kirk came in the league in twenty twelve, so
it's about his thirteen season. Three thirty one million, guaranteed
one playoff win. M hmm, yeah, so what we pay?
Speaker 4 (37:07):
What we paying for? O Joe?
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Hey, listen, Kirk Cousins is a God fearing man and
he's a praying man, and God has favor and guess
who had Guess guess guess guess who God has favor
for Kirk Cousins. That's so, that's only That's the only
thing I can think about it. No issues, no hiccups,
no problems, family does does, does everything the right way.
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Doesn't have any playoffs, doesn't have any much playoff experience
outside of one playoff win, no super bowls. But you
know what you're getting in the regular season, and you
know the numbers is going to be beautiful from an
offensive perspective.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
That's the only thing guy I can think of.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, I think the things look like we want a
quarterback that can distribute the football, get the ball out
of his hand. Yes, we know, uh, Kirk can do that.
He can get the ball out of his hands. Not
very He's not the greatest. Once we got to get
off the script. But as long as faith can flow
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and he can keep it going and and we call
him the players and everything, Oh he lights you up.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Now we're good.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Hey. You know, we've seen him have four hundred yard games.
We've seen him outdue some of the best quarterbacks in
the league. I remember him going head to head with
Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, and Rogers was doing his thing and
Kurt was like not to be outdone to that, right
right right there, right there with it.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, it's it's all it's all on what the organization wants.
It's all with the office of coordinator wants, it's all
with the coach wants. Obviously, you know, the owner has
to sign off on it. Again, justin Fields would have
been been dynamic. He would have been dynamic, yeah, you know,
in that offense, exciting, he can throw, he can also run.
He would be a dual threat. But they didn't want
to go in that direction. They didn't want to go
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in that direct.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
People people ask, like Jefferson Street, Joe, it's Joe Gilliam.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
Oh yeah, man, I understand what Cam is talking about.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Though. Cam also spoke about Jerry Jones holding Dak Presscott
back let's take a listen to what Cam had to
say about this.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Mm hm, Dak Prescott.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
We're looking for that motherfucking dog, and I don't think
Jerry Jones will allow him to become that.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Because you got to be politically correct.
Speaker 7 (39:28):
You got to be almost the president of football, almost
to be the signal.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Caller for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (39:35):
What Dallas Cowboys need at that at that quarterback position
is somebody saying, now, fuck that, this is my shit,
this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
I hear all that, but we're trying to win. We're
trying to win.
Speaker 7 (39:49):
Yes or no, Okay, cool, now, unleash me and let
me win this football game.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
I like that, But you can't listen the quarterback position.
You can't conduct yourself like that, not in Dallas. You're
not not spreading not shit, not especially not with that
Starr helmet. You know what this reminds me of, remember
when Obama was in office. Obama's in office. He has
to conduct himself a certain way because of the position
that he holds you at the highest semb So you
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have to move even if it's not the way you are.
You have to conduct yourself a certain way. You have
to camouflage, put that mask on, and you got to
move a certain way. It's no different for Dak Prescott
with the Dallas Cowboys wearing their star on his helmet
at the quarter of a position. You are the face
of the franchise. You have to conduct yourself a certain way.
Even if you wanted to be in what Cam just mentioned,
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you can't do it.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Oh hell no, not in Dallas. You ain't doing that.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
Why you can't do it?
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Not there?
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Now, there are other places you might have a little
leniency and a little grace to get away with it.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
But Dallas with a star man, they had you asked
up out of this old goddamn fast.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
You remember, oh Joe, you remember when the protest, when
Jerry says, as long as you own this team, you
gonna be toes on the line, helming under your arm
when that anthem is standing, when the anthem is plays.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Hi mm hmm, I know, I know in theory, I know.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
What Cam is saying is in theory. It's kind of like, man,
all the things that my grandfather said, this sounded good.
We should have bucked back in the day that what happened. Yeah, exactly, No,
nobody been there to tell that story. So I know
if his own kids didn't book, I know the grandkids
wasn't go book. So you already know Jerry who Jerry is.
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And I told you this old Joe. Jerry wants to
be the phase. That's why he can't bring a strong
coach in that could potentially win, because he's gonna get
something that Jerry never got, which is credit.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
The credit.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Jimmy got the credit.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
And even when they won the super Bowl without Jimmy,
they say, you woner with Jimmy players.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
Yeah, you see.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
If kind of like he's he's he's like, I got
to That's why he said if I did, just wouldn't
one more of these things because but you got to
do it with a with a coach that that that
falls in line.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Yeah, and you said the key word you heard you
heard that keyword.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
You just said.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
You got the fall in line at the quarterback position
now skill position.
Speaker 6 (42:25):
Receiver dB, deepest in D tackle and you that boy,
oh man, man, you do say.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
You can say whatever you want to as long as
you are producing at a high level.
Speaker 6 (42:36):
And the keyword not only producing, but consistently.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, if you're consistently you producing man, you got damn
you come in the locker, you do whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
But no position carries the aura of the face quarterback
like the quarterback on Joe a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
Yeah, that's why you have to get yourself a certain way.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
You have to Yeah, and so and plus.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
And matter of fact, now that we're on the talk, now,
now that we're on the top of that, can you
think of a quarterback who displayed themselves in the manner
in which Cam just said, not in da.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
I'm just saying in general, man.
Speaker 6 (43:15):
For real.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, jim My Man moved the helicopters. He was flipping
off the combat with old day. It was a different
time back then on Jack, But no, would it worked?
Would it worked today? We got thirty two NFL teams.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Is there a quarterback today that can get away with
actually being themselves?
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Matter of fact, it's another one for the chat that's
listening right now. Think about Peyton Manning, think about Tom Brady,
think about how they're viewed and they're perceived. And I
got a question for you. I don't know if you know,
I'm personally like I do. Do you think the world
has seen the real Tom Brady and the real Peyton Manning. No,
absolutely the fuck. Oh my god, No, that's my second time. Sorry, No,
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we haven't even seen. We haven't even seen the real
Tom Brady and the real Paid Manning unless you know
them personally.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
I'm telling you myself, Uh, you ain't seen.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
It's not the real them.
Speaker 6 (44:13):
It has to be masked.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yes, I'm a CEO, I'm I'm basically I'm running for
public office.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, all the time, and I need your vote all
the time. And you know, at times I wonder if
it could be draining. Of course, at times I wanted to.
I wonder you sit back and be like the fact
that I have to continue to do this and know
and put in this is the twenty four hour job coming.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
It's what you say, it's what you it's what you
signed up for.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
You have to put the overcoat on every day, no
matter what the temperanary day. So in other words, they
got to put that face on no matter how they're feeling.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Hey, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (44:50):
You know, Gollie g Wis, Oh, chefs man, it's unbelievable.
I respect that team so much. Man, We're gonna kick that.
You know what, because if you think about it, think
about what Tom is saying, and then what his teammates
say in the locker room after the victory or before
the game. That's not what he said publicly, and then
what he said behind closed door, and we get it.
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We look completely a lot of times, Jo and for us,
you and I, I mean you, you had a lot
more antics. I was kind of a little bit more
buttoned up. But people like, man, man, I ain't no
all like that.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
Man, you watch Unco night Cap, understand that ain't no
first tape right right right, right right right.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
I was like going front of the cameras and put
on my best but everybody know what you see kind
of what you see right here is what Shannon was
in the locker room.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
He had told on exactly exactly. So obviously with me,
I've always I've always been this way. This was me.
I came in like this and I'm still like this now.
This is this is how people in the chat. If
you watch Tom Brady throughout the years, look at the
Tom Brady in New England, and this is how you
know he had to suppress who he was looking at
the time. I'm Brady, New England and look at the
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funny comedic personality showing Tom Brady that was in town.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Twitter, Twitter funny as hell, the videos being put up,
making jokes, being a little being a little bit more free,
being a little bit more.
Speaker 6 (46:16):
Expressive, and who he really is.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Yeah, and you have to night and day two different
people total total completely you do.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
Oh, you have to bite your tongue a lot.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
When you're in our position, even when you're a professional athlete,
but more so when you're black athlete.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
So imagine Lebron.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Oh man, listen, man that he probably got Bron got
probably got totime.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
So you know, Bron BRONI dropped a couple of bombs
on your private carsation. But the thing is, you have
to stay buttoned up all the time. It's like you said,
it's a twenty four hour job being president of Lebron James, Inc.
It's a twenty four hour job. Being president of Tom
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Brady's Ink or Peyton man in Ink. It's a twenty
four our job. Because they've cultivated this perception for such
a long time.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
And see that's what they gotta stay They gotta they
gotta stay on que because.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
What was it, It wasn't that Tiger Woods had had
an infidelity.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
It was the perception in which he cultivating.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Right, But then I thought Tiger War the whole and
there wasn't no I hop for Perkins. Wait you say what,
no tip would let them die? Hey, give me the way,
give me a give me a grand that glad, that
grand Slam, Yes, see the Grand Slam. Or give it
that I hob Special, give it that Perkin Special to go.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
You come on with them.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I'm taking I'm taking my order, and you who's whoever
brought it out, come on with me.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
That's what's that's I mean, like you can, oh Joe,
you can never have a bad day.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
No, think about how long and even even if you
are having a bad day, you still got a mask.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yes, yes, you have to think about how long it
took them to cultivate. It's kind of like you're planning
a treat. If you were to play that's just saying
a carn acorn and you plan it in the time
that is going to go through an oak tree, you
probably won't be around to see it. So think about
how long they've been cultivated this perfect image that they
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put on display. Yeah, and just like that is gone.
Speaker 6 (48:47):
Yeah, you know it's bad for the people.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
You know, it's bad for the masses, but it's good
for those who are close to these individuals, the paid Mannings,
the tom Brady's, it's us, us that actually know them personally,
getting to see the real Yeah, I think the world
would appreciate them so much more if they could actually
see the authentic, organic person they are without having to
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put the cape or the mask on, or be a
certain way publicly to the masses. You would appreciate, appreciate
them that much more. And then you also see how relatable.
Who are the greatest all time?
Speaker 4 (49:24):
Are they? You that makeup? O Joe?
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Why you, oh Joe? Why you think these look at
Glorial Max. Why you think these cosmetic giants make so
much money? They're not the only one that's masking themselves.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Lauriel the Eras, she's the world's richest woman. I think
she's worth what ninety four billion? Sixty four billion? The
Laureal Eras? What they make O Joe make up? Yeah,
all to the billion dollar billion, multi billion dollar year industry.
Speaker 4 (49:56):
What did they do? Joe?
Speaker 6 (49:59):
Makeup? Be the illusion that you're someone that you're what's one.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Of the most what's one of the what's one of
the most popular holidays.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
For adults, Halloween? I get to dress up. I get
to beat something that I'm not.
Speaker 6 (50:14):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
Yeah, playing, that's what it is. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 6 (50:21):
I wish I wish they I wish they could.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
I wish they could have a day so the world
could really appreciate them for who they really are.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Oh, I said, Okay, one more thing I forgot. We
said O Jay's number was twenty two. It was thirty two.
Thirty Yeah, yeah, thirty two. I should have I should
have called it. Yeah, yeah it was. It was. It
was thirty two. And so before we go into what
he what he allegedly did, ain't no defense We're not
(50:51):
and I we ain't offering no defense for Oj're.
Speaker 6 (50:54):
My last my last name, my last name.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
No no, or Jerry Spence or any of these big
time That is what we do. We were talking about
the man, the football player that succumbed to his battle
with cancer.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
That's what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
So oh oh night cap uncan o Joe was defending.
Speaker 4 (51:10):
Ain't nobody defending anything.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
No, no, So don't don't even go out there and
take that out there and you don't offer it. There's
nothing to defend what we were upset about. What I
was upset about. You could speak to yourself. Is that
what Caitlyn Jenner said, good Renners is in celebrating the
death of someone?
Speaker 4 (51:30):
What oo and I I mean?
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Had she not said what she said, we would have
never mentioned her name, and then we could have just
talked about oja a. He was a tremendous football player.
The credits that he had in acting Baked Gun, most
people knowing for Naked Gun. Uh uh, the one he
had Elizabeth Montgomery. We would have just talked about that,
(51:53):
but we had to bring her in it because she
inserted herself in it because she thought it was cute.
Nor did she realize that she took a man's life.
Speaker 6 (52:04):
Yeah, listen, hey, what's it? What's the saying?
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Let ye who waits? It's the first stone?
Speaker 4 (52:12):
What?
Speaker 2 (52:12):
What's what's the saying? Do you not least you'd be judged? Okay,
we'll take that. I take that one.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
Something about a glass house, don't throw a stone at
whatever it is.
Speaker 6 (52:23):
I don't know how to say it.
Speaker 4 (52:24):
So what else we got?
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Tom Brady said he's not apposed to an NFL comeback.
Let's listen to what TB twelve had to say.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
Let's say one day there's a situation, right if it's
the forty nine ers, maybe you know, headed to the playoffs.
Speaker 8 (52:39):
Offense is great, Patriots, somebody somebody raiders could be you
never know, Scott.
Speaker 6 (52:44):
Forbid, somebody goes down, would you pick up that phone.
Speaker 4 (52:48):
I'm not opposed to it if they were.
Speaker 8 (52:50):
I don't know if they're gonna let me by becoming
an owner in the NFL team, But I don't know.
If I don't know, I'm always going to be in
a good shape. I always be able to throw the ball,
so to come in for a little bit like Ja
coming back.
Speaker 4 (53:02):
Even't know if they let me, but I wouldn't be
opposed to it.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
I like it, Oh, Joe, I like it like like
a basketball player.
Speaker 4 (53:09):
Cume back. You can sketch. You could regulate his minutes.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Okay, you only go play twenty minute, you only go
play twenty five minutes quarterback. I don't know Tom Brady,
how you regulate his minutes because he gonna want to
be able to be a little Joe.
Speaker 6 (53:20):
Yeah, that most definitely.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
And the funny thing about it is if you have
to understand with the way the NFL has handicapped the
defenses talked about in today's game. Yeah, you can't hit nobody,
you can't do nothing. You can't touch him. Hell, he
can come back even at well forty.
Speaker 4 (53:35):
Six now right be No, he might be holding that
forty seven.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
You know it's funny. I mean a lot a lot
of people will say, no, he can't do it. Well,
you put Brady in the right situation, but he'll.
Speaker 4 (53:47):
Be forty third.
Speaker 6 (53:49):
Hold on, let me take my glasses off real quick, chat, stay.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
With good Okay, we witch what happens?
Speaker 1 (53:54):
What happens you put Tom Brady on the pa on
not the Patriots. You put Tom Brady in place brock Purdy.
What happens if you put Tom Brady in the forty nine.
Speaker 4 (54:03):
I just hold you. I just hope nobody hits it.
Speaker 6 (54:09):
Well, what happens if you put Brady the supporting cast?
Speaker 1 (54:12):
Matter of course it does, boy Brady over there with
the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
But but oh Joe, did you listen? What was the
first team that he named?
Speaker 6 (54:26):
Patriots?
Speaker 4 (54:27):
That's not an accident.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
All this notion Tom was ready to leave. Bill Belichick
pushed Tom Brady out the door. It's like your you
have you ever been Scott Davinojo.
Speaker 6 (54:41):
Yeah, I ain't. I ain't even use no parachute.
Speaker 4 (54:43):
Go ahead, but.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
They take you up about twelve thirteen thousand feto show
and the plane is going along and all of a
sudden the plane steve break. All of a sudden that
door opens. Now I'm in a two man town.
Speaker 4 (55:00):
The mojoke.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
We started to walk to the Miss Sharp you ready?
Speaker 4 (55:06):
I hey, Ojo, he asked me, said, mister Sharp, were
you ready? And before I could say yeah or you
was out of there.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
I was like, oh, I wasn't, but I guess I
am back.
Speaker 4 (55:21):
You can't put me. I can't put me back in there.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
It is as a it's an un I mean, think
about it, O Joe. You you know sometimes you we've
all jumped up. You play receiver. You jumped up and
caught the ball. You're like, damn it don't seem like
my boy ever come down. Just imagine being twelve thousand
feet up in the air. They pushed Tom out. Tom
wasn't ready to leave New England. Don't you let people,
(55:47):
Don't you let anybody convince you of that? He had
got tired of Coach belichick bull drive. Coach Belichick believed
that he could win a Super Bowl without Tom Brady,
and there would be no doubt that he was the
reason for the success. Reason because we saw in San
Francisco when coach Walsh retired, they went back to back
(56:10):
with George Sefert.
Speaker 4 (56:12):
They won an eighty eight. Coach Walsh retires, George.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
Seaper comes in eighty nine, they win, get to the
NFC Championship Game. If I'm not mistaken, Robert greg bumbles,
lt recovers, they kick a field goal, they go to
the Super Bowl. So now like, okay, Joe was most
responsible for this. Now with Tom going to Tampa and
coach Belichick.
Speaker 4 (56:36):
Struggling in New England.
Speaker 2 (56:38):
Now that's not to say we can't give coach Belichick credit,
because he deserved credit because after some good players, he
came up with great game plans to neutralize the opposing
team's offense. And Tom was great enough that if the
game was closed, he wasn't.
Speaker 4 (56:58):
He didn't make turn me to mistakes.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
I mean, maybe I can only remember in one big
game AMC Championship game, Tom Brady threw a pick Marlon Jackson.
If I'm not mistake the intercept that are in the
Indie game. That's the game in time that I can
remember that Tom threw a pick the end the game.
And you know, look, we know he lost. He what
(57:22):
he's what seven and three in Super Bowls? Tom is
seven and three seventy three seventy three, So he lost
three Super Bowls. He lost the couple AMC Championship games
to le Broncos. So he doesn't always get it done,
but for the most part.
Speaker 4 (57:35):
He does.
Speaker 6 (57:37):
Yeah, bet Mellot Belichick.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
We have to give Belichick's credit obviously, being a defensive
mind that he is. Anytime they play someone that has
an elite player, he finds ways to eliminate that indap player.
If you guys are gonna beat us, you're gonna have
to beat us with other guys. And he's always been
great on the defensive side of the all on top
of drafting well and getting the most out of his players.
(58:02):
But again, this is a quarterback driven league, and if
you don't have a quarterback, no matter how well you draft,
no matter no matter how good that defense is, if
you don't have a quarterback on the other side of
the ball, to be efficient and move that goddamn ball
up and down that field and then not turn the
ball over in critical times.
Speaker 4 (58:19):
And that's what that's what he was great in the game.
Speaker 6 (58:23):
You're gonna always fall.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
It ain't very many times fall that you say, you
know what, man, Tom ain't play well. And even if
he didn't play well, you better be up with one
minute left in the game. You better be up fourteen
because he might not play well. But guess what, let
it be two point, you up head by two, or
(58:44):
you ahead by one, or you ahead by six, and
he need a touch down the beach.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
Yeah, and it's a game winning drive. But you might
as well strike up the band min as well as well.
But it wasn't lact that that the first team he
mentioned was New England was Patriots, And Tom, you're right.
If you're an owner in the league, that's not gonna
let you play in the league. So you're gonna have
to divest your shares, which I wouldn't do considering.
Speaker 4 (59:09):
Like, hey, you're a part of it.
Speaker 2 (59:11):
It ain't very many and it's not very many former
players that's in the ownership position in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (59:17):
You there, stay there, Tom, You could, but you.
Speaker 6 (59:19):
Know what, listen. Now, there's there's a chance that he might.
Speaker 1 (59:23):
Be the first player who has ownership in the team
that he's not on. But it's also actively still playing.
Speaker 6 (59:30):
It's never been no, you can't play.
Speaker 4 (59:31):
Can you have to divest yourself? Okay, you can come back.
You would have to divest them. I would like to
see it.
Speaker 1 (59:39):
I'm sure he ain't got no problem doing that because
them shares will still be there when he does.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
Somebody else come in and buy them. Just I mean, Tom, look,
and you're right, you're always gonna be Oh y'all. I
mean two years after you play, you like, man, I
can still play. And Tom is just he's only a
year removed. He's here removed. It's not like he's five
(01:00:03):
years removed. We're always That's what makes us who we are.
We always believe we could do things that's not possible.
That's how we became what we became. Yeah, you listen
to everybody told you on your Liberty City. Man, Oh
you ain't going nowhere? You can be right?
Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
How are here with us?
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
I was finna get out of it. I was finna
get up out of there. I was fine, get up
out of there. I left Liberty City. I love, I
love stay with me now. I love saying this. I
left Liberty City without really leaving, because when I left,
I took it with me and always put Liberty City
on display right, always, always, it was always that with me,
(01:00:42):
no matter how high I got, no matter how high
how I got, even when I fell, I still remain
consistent and who I was.
Speaker 6 (01:00:53):
But I was getting up out of there.
Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Because remember that was one of the reasons that joy
And went back to the Wizard. He was gonna be
able to get an ownership stake in the Wizards, but
him and mister Poland had fallen out. Mister Poland ended
up firing him. The rest of that, they say, he
ends up buying a minority share into the Hornets, whether
the Hornets of the Bobcasts at the time, but he
ended up going buying buying into the team in Charlotte. Uh,
(01:01:20):
they didn't change the hard shot Bobcast. There were the
Hornets and they whatever, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 6 (01:01:27):
Wait a minute, stay with me.
Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Now what happens he did mention Patriots, I could assure
you mentioned Raiders too.
Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Yeah, but see that's where he has the part ownership
in the.
Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Group ain't no, ain't no telling you know he would
would you say? You got to do these not diverse?
The word is yeah that vest Now I shoot man
Brady Brady Davante Adams. I can I can see that. Yeah,
I can see that. Antonio Pears, I'll let your boy.
Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
What do you want to say? You said so it
was about they were they were a bobcat.
Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
The volume
Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Mm hmm
The volume.
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news catt Hey OJ Simpson Orenthal James Simpson, one of
(03:59):
the greatest running backs of all time. Dotts had to
succumb to prostate cancer he had along he was fighting
a long battle of cancer.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
He was the age he was at the age of
seventy six. O. J.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Simpson known for his football prows on the days of
use at USC and the Buffalo Bills. Later, he's more
infamously known for going on trial for the murder of
his ex wife, Nicole Brown. Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman.
He was a He was acquitted of the criminal child trial,
but later convicted on civil charges.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Caitlyn Jenner tweeted, let's take a look at the tweet.
Do we have it up? We're gonna have it up.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Ash, sorry for the delay, but Caitlyn Jenner tweeted, very tacky,
very distasteful.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Basically what he said was good rhythms.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
No matter what you think of someone, Oho, you don't
celebrate someone's death.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
You never do that.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
You never, you never.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
You know, there's one thing about God. God don't play.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
You don't celebrate nobody's death, even if you despise that
person based on personal issues y'all might have gone through.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
Now you have to remember now o J.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Murder the case he was acquitted, that obviously tried in
the civil case. Now also again, God don't like ugly.
If I'm not mistaken, brother, I mean sister, sister brother.
Kitlyn Jenna also had an issue. Twenty fifteen fatal car
accident killed somebody. Hold you no, you didn't know she didyeah,
(05:38):
don't don't.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Nah everything that OJ people allegedly he killed Nicole Brown
Simpson and Ronald godman. He went on trial twelve men
and women. A jura of his period says, we don't
believe he did it. Yes, so y'all have a reasonable
doubt they'll quitted it right. He went to trial on
(05:59):
the civil charges. He was convicted. So you mean to
tell me there's no denying that at the hands of
Caitlyn Jenner someone lost their life.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
So howard now she did? She? I don't if I'm
not mistaken, I don't recall her spending any not one.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Day in jail. Yes, sir, but you you you say
good riddles, you happy for the death. You know, God
don't like my grumysed to always say what I was
a little boy, Oh Joe, God don't like ugly. Sometimes
you don't like pretty. You better be careful.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
You never know.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You gotta be careful because you never know. You never
know your time is up. Every time we're born, we
all come with the expression now we don't know what
that day is. But what you don't want to do
is you don't want to speed it up. Because the
tongue is powerful. Power celebrate somebody else. Listen, if you're
gonna celebrate somebody else's death, Now you got to be
careful and God, God can show you better to could
tell you absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Oh, Joe, I'm a little older than you, and so
I know, Ja, I'm fifty six nine.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I was there. Listen.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, OJ, I'm not gonna tell you. I can tell
you where I was, but go ahead and bring it.
I'm fall back. I'm piggyback off of you. If you
probably around my age, maybe a little older.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
O J. Simpson was the guy I'm talking about.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
O J.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Simpson.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
We're not talking about what transpired in ninety four coming forward.
We're talking about Yeah, prior Phil if you played running back,
you wanted to get the number twenty two. You wanted
to be the juice because and plus he was really
the first black athlete to have commercial success. Everybody remember
OJ running through the airport jumping over everything that point.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
I tried that on cars.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
He had an Orange Juice commercial. He was really the
first black and TV. Remember OJ. What was that movie
that he was in with Elizabeth Breaking Gun? The Naked Gun. Yeah,
he was a naked gun, but he was in with
Elizabeth Montgomery. Uh, what was what was the name of
(08:02):
that movie? It wasn't burning. It was a killing affair. Yeah,
o J got credits, major credits on his resume. So
he was really the first black athlete to have commercial appeal.
Now we know, uh Muhammad Ali, but Muhammad Ali didn't
have the commercial appeal because of what transpired of him
(08:25):
becoming a Muslim and not wanting to go to Vietnam.
He's like they'd be at kongs. Ain't called me no
N word. I ain't going over to killing the medicine
people when y'all y'all, y'all want me to fight over there,
but y'all won't fight for me right here.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Oh J had commercial appeal, And so everybody.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Dudes, dudes like healthy dudes, chubby dude, Man, I want
to be running back. Man, get your fat butter on
the offensive defensive line. You ain't getting no twenty two.
They ain't got but one twenty two. Oj Ojo and
this dude you two under found, tell me about you
gonna be a running back?
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Bro?
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Oh J was it?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Now a lot of people try to erase what he
did on the field because of what transpired in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Four off the field.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, I believe Look, everybody knows what he did. He
ran the football the first he rushed for two thousand
yards and fourteen games, and fourteen in Buffalo. You know
what the weather gets like. You have played the Buffalo, Joe.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, I played it my flow twice, so you know.
And New York again cold in New York, it does.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So I just like I said, I don't celebrate death.
No matter what you what you think he may or
may not have done. I'm still not celebrating his death
because I just know one thing. In nineteen ninety four
two three families lives changed forever. Oh j kids never
had peace because everybody looked at them with a side
(09:57):
eye and a J did I Cole Brown Simpson, her
family was ever for what's never the same? Ron Goldman
was the game never the same. Yeah, they never were
ever going to be able to hug their love was
and tell them I love you. So I empathize with
(10:17):
the families. Yeah, but I don't. I don't celebrate someone's death.
That's not that's judge. I you know, first of all,
and we're not gonna reach Joe. We're not going to
retry the case. First of all is thirty years ago.
And second of all, we're not qualified.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
No at all at all. And and and people got
to be very careful. I think we become a society
that is very numb when it comes to this very numb.
We're very numb because we're so used to seeing it
constantly every single day. And if it's someone that is
not loved beloved by by the masses, and you have
any type of mistakes or ill will that you've done
(10:55):
in the past, those mistakes are consistently brought up all
the time, especially in his case, being that it was
such a global impact during that time in nineteen ninety
four when that incident happened, and obviously the ruling, the
ruling and the verdict didn't sit.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Well with a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Obviously it was celebrated by some and then by some
they hated it, and so they became to hate him,
you know, for for obvious reasons.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
We should hit a lot of people. We should hit
a lot of people, because there's a lot of people.
Yeah that look that that that that's the opposite color
of us, that's murdered some of our people.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
And we have to what was the kid? What was
the guy in Florida? They killed that young boy?
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Brother George Brothers.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, examment, Yeah, yeah, The first thing I heard was Shannon.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
He went the trial and he got off let it go.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, well if you know this, And I'm not gonna
get on no soap box and I'm not gonna preach tonight,
but I'm just telling you they we always asked black
people to let it go. We always got to be
We always got to be the bigger person. We always
got to charge to the cheat.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Yeah, got to you got to they listen.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
They want us to always give grace, always always want
you to give grace.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
But that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
But when do we get to receive it.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Oh, it's gonna be a long time. And when we
do get to receive it, win gonna be here. I
can tell you that when we do get to receive
that grace for everything, no matter how long ago it was,
we won't be around her to know what it feels like.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
I can tell you I remember what I told you.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Ya tell her about the great poet Nikki Giovanna. She
would explain it to Uh James Baldwin. She said, I
love you the most, but I get the least of you.
We give the most grace, but we see receive the.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Least of it.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Oh yeah, and you know what, the way it's always
been set up, and it's always been set up that way.
Stay with me, now, it's always been set up that way.
So we had the first the first thing that happened.
You have to understand how this world in general is built.
It's just the one. It's the suppress. I'm not here,
I'm not I'm not here to preach on those soap
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box either. But again, they always want, you know who,
to take the ladder and take the smarter route. They
want you to do everything in peace always.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
But nothing ever, nothing in nothing in American history was
ever about peace. How do you think America got it?
How do you think America got in freedom? They got
tired of the British telling them taxation with our representation.
We wanted them a religion, We wanted freedoms. That's why
they don't that tea in the in the Boston Harbor.
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No name one thing that's ever been a people what
is protest? Because the one thing we know about power,
people that have it will very seldom relinquish it voluntarily.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
That ain't happening.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
You got to take it if you want it.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Man, Think about heavy, How did how did we attain
everything over here in the States in general, coming in
nicely so and pretty smiling. How is everything attained in general?
You got to take what you want and then once
you got it, then you have to pre to the masses. Well,
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you need to do everything peacefully and maybe he'll get
with you.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
But that's what he ay.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
You know, in time, in time, y'all didn't y'all didn't
ask the Native Americans for this land. Y'all didn't say,
you know what, hey, we're gonna make a deal with you.
If you're land, you've been here for umpteen years, how
about we purchase it from you. Huh, that's what you did.
But oh then you put them on it. You put
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them on the trail of tears. So, like I said,
and I'm sorry, I'm not trying to go down no
history lesson with you. But I empathize for the Brown Simpson,
Nicole Brown Simpson's family, Ronald Goldman's family that doesn't see
people a lot of times. Oh, your people say, well,
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now they can have peace. There is no peace. I
don't get to I've been without my loved one for
thirty years. I don't get ye. Yeah, you can't break
someone dying, it doesn't give me peace because my loved
one is still gone. Now if that person went away
and then my loved one came back, nah, I get
to have peace, O Joe.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I don't get no peace out.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Of this peace yep and again, and that that's a sign,
even if you don't say anything, that's a sign of
actually celebrating death and feeling like, Okay, now I'm at
peace because the individual that might be responsible for this
incident is finally gone and resting in heaven or wherever
it may be. But again, people that's watching people in
the chat, you got to be careful because the tongue
is very very very very powerful, very powerful. Don't wish
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no ill will on nobody, especially once they transitioned. O. J.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Simpson dead of cancer at the age of seventy six.
That the family's impacted by on both sides. God be
with you.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Oh yo, here it is.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Russell Wilson says he opened doors for black quarterback.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Anyway, Russe became the second black quarterback to win the Lombardy. Normally,
the second person to do something doesn't get the credit
that the first person.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
But we're talking about that.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Russell said, that mark the shift in perception of black
men in his position. Damn so much for what Doug
Williams did. Okay, but anyway, Shaq Harris, Joe Simple okay,
Marlon Brisco, but anyway for me able to go to
back to back Super Bowl then win one of them,
I think it opened a lot of doors.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Now you see guys like Patrick Mahomes who's won it,
and it's really just us so far, but there's more
to come. What I love to see is guys getting
drafted early and a lot of teams these days have
black quarterbacks playing for them. I think one of the
biggest blessings of my career so far as I've been
fortunate to be able to open doors for others. Hold on, So,
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what role to Doug Williams play the first African American
quarterback to actually get you and win the superins MV
So what about Shaq Harris? What about Joe gilliam So?
What did Marlon Brisco do? Jack Harritt?
Speaker 4 (17:08):
So, so what about Steve McNair.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
They opened no doors, Donald mcnaw, Michael Vick, So they
opened no doors?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
It was you?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah, I think you know what he is a part
of it. He's a part of it, especially in the
in the modern day era of the game of football.
You know, you got to think we got people in
the chat me.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I don't want to cut you off for me and
to be able to go to back to back Super
Bowl to win one of them, I think.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I opened up a lot of doors.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
He said, yea, where where he's saying a part of
That's not what he said. That's what you're saying. Let's
take him no, no, no, I don't want you to add anything.
I don't want you to take anything out. Let's take
him at what he said. Yes, sir, oh I created
Hey when I talk, not kept I created it. So Joe, Hey,
you ain't got no part of this. So Joe I
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did this with Nightcap.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Huh yeah, I give it.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
You say he could have said. He could have said
we in that case as far as the team that
he was a part of.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
IM just trying to help you out. So what role
did Doug Williams, What role did that play?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I think more so for Russell's sake, he was speaking
on behalf of the modern day era, younger kids, younger
generation that the generation that probably won't know about the
Doug Williams or the other individuals that that the Steve
McNair's and the other other quarterbacks that you name that
were black, that that have won. The kids in today's
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era might not recognize or know about them. So I
in a sense, I think Russell Wilson would be speaking
on behalf of his era and the era of younger
generation kids that are playing right now. As far as
the doors that he opened from the quarterback position.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
That's the problem with society right now, especially the young. Yes, sir,
just because you don't know it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Just because just because people don't know about Doug Williams
or Shaq Harris, A Marlin Brisko, a Jefferson Street Joke,
Shaques Harris, uh Speed McNair, Randall Cunning, that doesn't mean
they didn't exist.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
Everybody you just name, think about this, everybody just name.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
If you were to ask a kid in high school
right now, ask him about those names, they probably wouldn't know.
They probably they probably wouldn't know because they don't know
the history of the game and how far they know
how far back it goes. But to be able to
name some of the players like you just did. It
wouldn't resonate with them, O Joe. For those that would
read this, read this article that Russell Wilson, they will
understand and know who Russell Wilson is because it's a
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little bit more relatable to the youngest generation, the generation
that's playing right now and that generation that will come after.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
So I understand what he's saying. But you are right,
You are right.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You know you have to you have to get credit
where credit is due for those that paved the way
before you, before you came and did the same thing
you did, based on what you're talking about. But I
really think he's addressing those of the younger generation today
that have no idea who then running. Randall cunning Hams
were the Steve McNair's. Oh I forgot about even were
thinking about. We forgot Warren Moon.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Oh I forgot about. I forgot about Warren. I've got
about Warren.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Still one of the prettiest deep balls ever. Actually, matter
of fact, I went to the Pro Bowl with Warren Moon,
also with bit them. Yeah, oh Joe, it was Doug Williams.
It was Doug getting too in winning the Super Bowl
that changed a lot Like Okay, they can do it.
They can process information fast. They can't think of this position.
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You don't have to be mobile. Doug william was a
prototypical dropback quarterback. Show a quarterback. Shaq Harris now Marlon
Brisco run around. He's from Denver, Broncos. He ran around,
and a lot of others. Randall cunning had legs. H
Warren was a drop back passer. Uh, we forgot about
Dante Colepepper.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Have I forgot about it?
Speaker 4 (21:00):
There?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Most most black quarterbacks were moving. They were thought of
his mobile. They there are a lot of guys that
probably could have. But how many guys that played quarterback
got moved to running back?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Wide receiver a dB mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Hell they're still to this day, they still trying to
do Hell, they try to do it. Lamar coming out
into the draft. Why don't you come my hend and
run the route?
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
What was there?
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Was from Tampa from Indiana, Ram lil With then there,
but there.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Was a wide receiver. I think that ended up he
ended up transit. Uh of which positions? Cordell Stewart STUPI yeah,
school st.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Vin Young?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
So what about Vin Young? Rookie of the Year that's
all I'm saying. Oh Joe, look, I don't mind it.
I don't mind people giving people credit, but this, but
we gotta stop thinking like, well, I didn't know that.
Just because you don't know something doesn't mean it didn't happen.
And we do a lot of that with history. O Joe,
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I didn't know Michael Jackson sold that many records. I
didn't know what Ritha Franklin was this good. I didn't know.
Just because you don't know it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, we got We also got to stay within the
context of what he was talking about. He talked, he
did talk about winning a winning Super Bowls. So Doug
Williams won to.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
And was super Bowl MVP and was the first round
RAF pie. Right, so what so what's he saying again?
Who was the second man to go to the movie?
Only people remember Neil Armstrong? Who was the second man
that brought yourself for minuy mile? They only remember Roger Banister. Yeah,
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so who's the first man to run a sub nine
seven hundred meters? They're only gonna remember who you saying, vote,
who's the first man to go nine to six? So
unless somebody goes sub ninety five, it's not gonna matter,
o JO.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
You know how this thing works.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, yeah, It's always been that way.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
That way, that's why. Yeah, what the receivers want to
do OJO. They want to be the first to get
that two K God, it don't matter. You could have
ten guys OJ OJ. Even though Ed has the record
twenty one oh five, you would go back to OJ
because OJ was the first.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
They thought it was. They thought no one could do it.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Not in the fourteen game season two thousand.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Yeah, that's a lot of running that boy.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I just I just don't I don't understand what he
was hoping to accomplish.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
By saying what he's said, he opened doors. Huh.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
No, it was the guys that came before you, that
had success that open doors for you.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
It was the Randall Cunninghams.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
It was the Michael Biggs, it was the Steve McNair,
it was the Dante Cole Peppers, the Donovan mcnabs, it
was Uh. We just talked talked about Doug. I know
Doug barrywell, Doug with winning Graham State, So I know
Doug very well. In the Yeah, Shaq Harris was with me,
Shaq Harris Rams I was. He with me in Baltimore.
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Marlon Briscoe was in Denver, Jeff the Street, Joe. They
opened the door for you.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
It was them, Yeah, I think, I mean, I mean,
I oppose me, obviously, it was. It was. It was
not a video, but a interview about how he about
how he feels about opening some of the doors based
on what he's accomplished and what he's done as a quarterback.
I think he could have been a little bit more
in depth when in went in a little bit more
depth about it about those that you know, opened the
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doors for him as well. You know, he just didn't
get into into all of that, but I kind of
see where he's going and and for me, you know.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Russell forget the football player.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
For me as an individual, he's an inspiration for one
as a father, as a family man. You know, seeing
some of the things that he does away from the
game of football are very inspiring, you know, and I'm listen,
I'm not even ashamed to do it. I'm one that
picks up from everybody and the way they move and
the way they operate away from the game of football.
Because I can always be better in many different facets
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in my life, and I can always pick up from
little things that others do, and Russell is one of
those that I do find inspiring in other ways where
I can improve myself as well.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
But again, based on what he said, I understand what
you're saying.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Uncle.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
He could have died a little deeper and given credit
to those that also paid the way for him to
open the doors for him. But I think he was
more more focused on what he did for the game
during his time.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
When people say, was Shennon you revolutionize the tight end
position because the way the tight ends play, No, Kellen
Winslow and Ozzie was doing what I was doing before
I was even thought about doing it. I say, the
only difference between what Shannon Sharp did, Ozzie and and
and and and Kellen Winslow Sr. Is that there are
more guys to do it. Yeah, what I was with
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our big wide receiver that they moved the tight end. Yes,
could I do things that other tight ends could only
dream of doing? Yes, But Kellen did that, Ozzie did that.
They're just more guys, They're more kittles. There's more Laporters.
There's more Hawkinson, there's more Travis Kelsey's, there's more the
kids up in the Kid Up in Buffalo. There's more
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them Knocknay Yeah, Daulphin Knobs, the Dog Shows, the Frankstons.
There's just more guys to do it. Oh Joe, Yes,
I was unique in my time, just like Oli, Ozzie
and Kellen was.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Oh I opened the door, Well let me that's your question.
Who over the door for you?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
How you got your ass in the house so somebody
had to open the door for you?
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's that's that's taking a deeper
That's how I.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Look at it.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
And I'm when when I talked to Killer and I
talked to Kelson, I talked to somebody some of these
young tight ends, and they give me, they give me
my flowers. I'm appreciative. But I know because I grew
up and I was watching Killing and I was watching Ozzy.
I watched those guys like guys. Now getting a thousand
yards is not to say guys because they throw them
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all more. There was really only two guys in my
era that could go get a thousand yards. That was
me and Ben Coates. Tony came and came a little later,
but it was just it was me and Coats, just
like with in Ozzie's time, it was Ozzy killing Todd
Christensen was another was another pass catching.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Tight end for the Raiders. Right, but.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Guys that can move. Now, these guys are moving like
I moved. That shouldn't have been a problem. Hell, I'm
only two on twenty five, twenty eight pounds. Now these
guys move like that at two forty five two empty, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Running, But I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Bro, Russ, you if you've had an unbelievable career thus far,
and I believe you will continue and I hope you
the best. I hope you can get back to what
you were in Seattle for Pittsburgh. But Bro, you got
you gotta stop this. You ain't open no doors because
somebody the door was open before you walked.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
In, the door that somebody left open for you.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
That's like when you're going you're going somewhere, oh Joe,
and you see you you open the door, and the
lady walking behind you, how she gonna say, I opened
the door though you did not held the door open
for you. Yeah, that's what Doug Williams did. That's what
Warren Moon and Dante and Viig and Marlon Briscoe in
Jefferson Street, Joe and Shaqua Harris, Steve McNair, Randall Cunningham, Dante,
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Cole Pepper, Donovan mcdam.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
That's what they did.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
They held the door open for you, Warren Moon, Rodney
p They held a door open for you.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Bro. Yeah, that's that's a completely different that's completely different conversation.
That's you know, it's funny, that's a completely different conversation
based on the question that might have been asked.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
So, but I get where you're going with it.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
But he would have had to divert based on what
was asked and what they were talking about in general,
and then brought up, well, this is a B and
C while I was able to do what I was
able to do, and these are the people that opened
the door for me. So, I mean, I don't know,
but I understand completely. I understand exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
If you listen to comedians m hm, listen to how
they talk. They pay homage to the priors, to the
Eddie Murphys, to the George Carlins, to the Paul Moore them,
to the Red Foxes to the Robin Harrison, Robin Harrison,
use me to the Bernie Max Clip Wilson. Yeah, bro
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comedy been going a long time. Black quarterbacks been playing.
So to twenty twelve with the first year black quarterbacks
came into existence, pay homage. Listen to Beyonce how she
talks in reverence to those that came before her. Listening
at the guy that talked in reverence of how people
came before them and opened the doors. The black actors,
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the black actors and actresses, now they're just I guess
they just go by one to just actors.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
You don't say actors and actresses. I guess whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But anyway, when blacks would do an outstanding ain't.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Even getting no nomination.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, I think Haddie McDaniel was the first one to
win a supporting oscar for Gone with the Win.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
What was that thirty six.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Had a I think Sidney Poitier was the first black
male to win one, and then obviously Denzel and you got.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Mahearsal a li.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
It was thirty act think it was thirty nine Gone
with the Wind, But of the Brick Book was written
in thirty six, So I just like I said, I'm
one on yo. I'm I'm big on giving credit words due.
I'm big on that, O Joe. I look, I ain't discovered,
I ain't discovered anything. I'm not finna say here. I'm majella. No,
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I'm Lewis and Clark. And I was the first to
do the X, Y and.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Z because I'm not, well, yeah, you're right, you're right
by I just try I just try to.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
I just try to.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I just tried to leave the Broncos tight end position,
the Ravens tight end position, and the position as a
whole and a better position than I found it. And
it just goes to show you that, you know what, Hey,
undersized guy can play this position. That's all I want
to do. I ain't no, I'm the first, and I
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just Cam Newton was my guest this week on Club
Sha Shade. Shout out to Cam. I really appreciate that
bro among them anything among the many things that he
talked about Kirk Cousins and the contract that's gone viral,
Let's take a listen to what Cam had to say.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
Yes, sir, what the Falcons paid Kirk Cousins, they could
have got Cam Newton justin fields and Michael Vic for
that price, giving this person the money coming off of injury.
So how am I supposed to feel because the same
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questions and the same concerns that you had with me.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Obviously you don't know overlook that you see you don't
have those concerns with him.
Speaker 7 (32:35):
And if you give Kirk Cousins my resume, he probably would.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Have gotten more. Mmmm. Wow, Hey, what what's your first
of all? Cam? Mike Bighd, I got too old?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Now whether or not you can you seriously want to
play football, that's something that you, your agent and the
team would have to work out.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, my surprise justin Fields because you and I both
thought justin Fields would be Michael Big two point Oh.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
Definitely thought he was going there. Definitely thought he was
going there.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Oh, Joe with textbook, you can't draw off a better
situation Atlanta justin Field from Burbon day he kid he
caught five.
Speaker 8 (33:20):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I was like, oh, yeah, this ain't about to be
lit Mercedes Ben, don't about to be Lenny Lendy. But
obviously they went another direction and they like a lot
of I mean obviously with medicine. Now, o, Joe, Achilles
injury is not a death sentence like what once was.
We saw Kevin Durant come from come back from an
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achilles injury tear, and he's might be playing better than
he did pre stealing fishing. We watched Dan Dann Marino
toward his achilles and he tells you he was he
was never the same. I mean he was never he
was never Mike Vig but he said he was never.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
He had that. You know that. That's the little bigger
yoke with Daddy what I see if But yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Uh, I mean, he he he made he makes some points.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
He's like, he makes he makes a point. But you
have to understand the owners like who they like. The
owners will always like what they like. And based on
Kirk cousins resume, despite his lack of playoff appearances, his
lack of Super Bowl appearances, they understand what he does
during the regular season and they believe he's the one
for the organization. Organization that can come in and will
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put up crazy numbers during the regular season, crazy numbers offensively.
From an offensive standpoint, what they're going to do offensively
is they're gonna throw the ball over the place. Kyle
Pitts is gonna have a better season needed. He had
his rookie year. Drake London is going to have a
better year. Actually, he's gonna have his best year ever
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because of the person that is.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
At should have more lanes to run boxes.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
Because of Bjhon Robinson.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Is the ability to run the ball, catch the ball
out the backfield. That makes that offense, that offense that
much more deadly, and it makes Kirk cousin job that
much more easier because you have a running back like
that where they're gonna have to stack the guy damn
box and bring somebody down in the box. And what
do you think Kyle Pitt's gonna do? What you think
Drake London gonna do. They're going to feed off of
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Kirk Cousins, who is going to wing it. He's a
gun slinger. I'm not saying a gun slinger from the
point of like Brett Favar Aaron Rodgers. But he listen,
he gonna wing it every time.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
Every time.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
It's like, uh, Cousins, it wasn't like he was mobile
to begin with. He's a drop drouarter back again with
so it's not like he's losing anything. He losing right, Okay,
So he ran so now he goes from a five
four forty to a five five five six.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
He ain't going no way anyway.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Yeah, when he got a run, he can then let's
put it. Put it to you like that.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Well, as long as it's as long as there's thirty
short anything. Well we called three yards the lest he
ain't getting on that joe unless it's twenty five and
they way way down the field.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Right right, Yeah, but I understand what Camra saying. Yeah,
I understand what camera saying completely. But again I look
at the resume and where kirk Cousins has done when
he was healthy. Whether it was with the Red I
mean sorry, whether it's with the Commanders, whether it's with
the Vikings, you understand, and you know what you're getting.
As long as you have the supporting cast around him,
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you have the pass catches around him. Oh, it's gonna
be maybe a forty five hundred, maybe a five thousand
yard season, you never know. But I think that's what
the Falcons are baking on and getting the kirk Cousins
that we saw with the Redskins and get oh my god,
the Kirkus we saw with the Commanders.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
For the kirk Cousins, we saw with the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
And Kirk came in the league in twenty twelve, so
it's about his thirteen season. Three thirty one million, guaranteed
one playoff win. M hmm, yeah, so what we pay?
Speaker 4 (37:07):
What we paying for? O Joe?
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Hey, listen, Kirk Cousins is a God fearing man and
he's a praying man, and God has favor and guess
who had Guess guess guess guess who God has favor
for Kirk Cousins. That's so, that's only That's the only
thing I can think about it. No issues, no hiccups,
no problems, family does does, does everything the right way.
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Doesn't have any playoffs, doesn't have any much playoff experience
outside of one playoff win, no super bowls. But you
know what you're getting in the regular season, and you
know the numbers is going to be beautiful from an
offensive perspective.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
That's the only thing guy I can think of.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, I think the things look like we want a
quarterback that can distribute the football, get the ball out
of his hand. Yes, we know, uh, Kirk can do that.
He can get the ball out of his hands. Not
very He's not the greatest. Once we got to get
off the script. But as long as faith can flow
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and he can keep it going and and we call
him the players and everything, Oh he lights you up.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Now we're good.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Hey. You know, we've seen him have four hundred yard games.
We've seen him outdue some of the best quarterbacks in
the league. I remember him going head to head with
Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, and Rogers was doing his thing and
Kurt was like not to be outdone to that, right
right right there, right there with it.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, it's it's all it's all on what the organization wants.
It's all with the office of coordinator wants, it's all
with the coach wants. Obviously, you know, the owner has
to sign off on it. Again, justin Fields would have
been been dynamic. He would have been dynamic, yeah, you know,
in that offense, exciting, he can throw, he can also run.
He would be a dual threat. But they didn't want
to go in that direction. They didn't want to go
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in that direct.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
People people ask, like Jefferson Street, Joe, it's Joe Gilliam.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
Oh yeah, man, I understand what Cam is talking about.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Though. Cam also spoke about Jerry Jones holding Dak Presscott
back let's take a listen to what Cam had to
say about this.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Mm hm, Dak Prescott.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
We're looking for that motherfucking dog, and I don't think
Jerry Jones will allow him to become that.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Because you got to be politically correct.
Speaker 7 (39:28):
You got to be almost the president of football, almost
to be the signal.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Caller for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (39:35):
What Dallas Cowboys need at that at that quarterback position
is somebody saying, now, fuck that, this is my shit,
this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
I hear all that, but we're trying to win. We're
trying to win.
Speaker 7 (39:49):
Yes or no, Okay, cool, now, unleash me and let
me win this football game.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
I like that, But you can't listen the quarterback position.
You can't conduct yourself like that, not in Dallas. You're
not not spreading not shit, not especially not with that
Starr helmet. You know what this reminds me of, remember
when Obama was in office. Obama's in office. He has
to conduct himself a certain way because of the position
that he holds you at the highest semb So you
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have to move even if it's not the way you are.
You have to conduct yourself a certain way. You have
to camouflage, put that mask on, and you got to
move a certain way. It's no different for Dak Prescott
with the Dallas Cowboys wearing their star on his helmet
at the quarter of a position. You are the face
of the franchise. You have to conduct yourself a certain way.
Even if you wanted to be in what Cam just mentioned,
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you can't do it.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Oh hell no, not in Dallas. You ain't doing that.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
Why you can't do it?
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Not there?
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Now, there are other places you might have a little
leniency and a little grace to get away with it.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
But Dallas with a star man, they had you asked
up out of this old goddamn fast.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
You remember, oh Joe, you remember when the protest, when
Jerry says, as long as you own this team, you
gonna be toes on the line, helming under your arm
when that anthem is standing, when the anthem is plays.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Hi mm hmm, I know, I know in theory, I know.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
What Cam is saying is in theory. It's kind of like, man,
all the things that my grandfather said, this sounded good.
We should have bucked back in the day that what happened. Yeah, exactly, No,
nobody been there to tell that story. So I know
if his own kids didn't book, I know the grandkids
wasn't go book. So you already know Jerry who Jerry is.
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And I told you this old Joe. Jerry wants to
be the phase. That's why he can't bring a strong
coach in that could potentially win, because he's gonna get
something that Jerry never got, which is credit.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
The credit.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Jimmy got the credit.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
And even when they won the super Bowl without Jimmy,
they say, you woner with Jimmy players.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
Yeah, you see.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
If kind of like he's he's he's like, I got
to That's why he said if I did, just wouldn't
one more of these things because but you got to
do it with a with a coach that that that
falls in line.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Yeah, and you said the key word you heard you
heard that keyword.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
You just said.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
You got the fall in line at the quarterback position
now skill position.
Speaker 6 (42:25):
Receiver dB, deepest in D tackle and you that boy,
oh man, man, you do say.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
You can say whatever you want to as long as
you are producing at a high level.
Speaker 6 (42:36):
And the keyword not only producing, but consistently.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, if you're consistently you producing man, you got damn
you come in the locker, you do whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
But no position carries the aura of the face quarterback
like the quarterback on Joe a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
Yeah, that's why you have to get yourself a certain way.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
You have to Yeah, and so and plus.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
And matter of fact, now that we're on the talk, now,
now that we're on the top of that, can you
think of a quarterback who displayed themselves in the manner
in which Cam just said, not in da.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
I'm just saying in general, man.
Speaker 6 (43:15):
For real.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, jim My Man moved the helicopters. He was flipping
off the combat with old day. It was a different
time back then on Jack, But no, would it worked?
Would it worked today? We got thirty two NFL teams.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Is there a quarterback today that can get away with
actually being themselves?
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Matter of fact, it's another one for the chat that's
listening right now. Think about Peyton Manning, think about Tom Brady,
think about how they're viewed and they're perceived. And I
got a question for you. I don't know if you know,
I'm personally like I do. Do you think the world
has seen the real Tom Brady and the real Peyton Manning. No,
absolutely the fuck. Oh my god, No, that's my second time. Sorry, No,
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we haven't even seen. We haven't even seen the real
Tom Brady and the real Paid Manning unless you know
them personally.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
I'm telling you myself, Uh, you ain't seen.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
It's not the real them.
Speaker 6 (44:13):
It has to be masked.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yes, I'm a CEO, I'm I'm basically I'm running for
public office.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, all the time, and I need your vote all
the time. And you know, at times I wonder if
it could be draining. Of course, at times I wanted to.
I wonder you sit back and be like the fact
that I have to continue to do this and know
and put in this is the twenty four hour job coming.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
It's what you say, it's what you it's what you
signed up for.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
You have to put the overcoat on every day, no
matter what the temperanary day. So in other words, they
got to put that face on no matter how they're feeling.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Hey, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (44:50):
You know, Gollie g Wis, Oh, chefs man, it's unbelievable.
I respect that team so much. Man, We're gonna kick that.
You know what, because if you think about it, think
about what Tom is saying, and then what his teammates
say in the locker room after the victory or before
the game. That's not what he said publicly, and then
what he said behind closed door, and we get it.
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We look completely a lot of times, Jo and for us,
you and I, I mean you, you had a lot
more antics. I was kind of a little bit more
buttoned up. But people like, man, man, I ain't no
all like that.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
Man, you watch Unco night Cap, understand that ain't no
first tape right right right, right right right.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
I was like going front of the cameras and put
on my best but everybody know what you see kind
of what you see right here is what Shannon was
in the locker room.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
He had told on exactly exactly. So obviously with me,
I've always I've always been this way. This was me.
I came in like this and I'm still like this now.
This is this is how people in the chat. If
you watch Tom Brady throughout the years, look at the
Tom Brady in New England, and this is how you
know he had to suppress who he was looking at
the time. I'm Brady, New England and look at the
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funny comedic personality showing Tom Brady that was in town.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Twitter, Twitter funny as hell, the videos being put up,
making jokes, being a little being a little bit more free,
being a little bit more.
Speaker 6 (46:16):
Expressive, and who he really is.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Yeah, and you have to night and day two different
people total total completely you do.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
Oh, you have to bite your tongue a lot.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
When you're in our position, even when you're a professional athlete,
but more so when you're black athlete.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
So imagine Lebron.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Oh man, listen, man that he probably got Bron got
probably got totime.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
So you know, Bron BRONI dropped a couple of bombs
on your private carsation. But the thing is, you have
to stay buttoned up all the time. It's like you said,
it's a twenty four hour job being president of Lebron James, Inc.
It's a twenty four hour job. Being president of Tom
(47:14):
Brady's Ink or Peyton man in Ink. It's a twenty
four our job. Because they've cultivated this perception for such
a long time.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
And see that's what they gotta stay They gotta they
gotta stay on que because.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
What was it, It wasn't that Tiger Woods had had
an infidelity.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
It was the perception in which he cultivating.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Right, But then I thought Tiger War the whole and
there wasn't no I hop for Perkins. Wait you say what,
no tip would let them die? Hey, give me the way,
give me a give me a grand that glad, that
grand Slam, Yes, see the Grand Slam. Or give it
that I hob Special, give it that Perkin Special to go.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
You come on with them.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I'm taking I'm taking my order, and you who's whoever
brought it out, come on with me.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
That's what's that's I mean, like you can, oh Joe,
you can never have a bad day.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
No, think about how long and even even if you
are having a bad day, you still got a mask.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yes, yes, you have to think about how long it
took them to cultivate. It's kind of like you're planning
a treat. If you were to play that's just saying
a carn acorn and you plan it in the time
that is going to go through an oak tree, you
probably won't be around to see it. So think about
how long they've been cultivated this perfect image that they
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put on display. Yeah, and just like that is gone.
Speaker 6 (48:47):
Yeah, you know it's bad for the people.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
You know, it's bad for the masses, but it's good
for those who are close to these individuals, the paid Mannings,
the tom Brady's, it's us, us that actually know them personally,
getting to see the real Yeah, I think the world
would appreciate them so much more if they could actually
see the authentic, organic person they are without having to
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put the cape or the mask on, or be a
certain way publicly to the masses. You would appreciate, appreciate
them that much more. And then you also see how relatable.
Who are the greatest all time?
Speaker 4 (49:24):
Are they? You that makeup? O Joe?
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Why you, oh Joe? Why you think these look at
Glorial Max. Why you think these cosmetic giants make so
much money? They're not the only one that's masking themselves.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Lauriel the Eras, she's the world's richest woman. I think
she's worth what ninety four billion? Sixty four billion? The
Laureal Eras? What they make O Joe make up? Yeah,
all to the billion dollar billion, multi billion dollar year industry.
Speaker 4 (49:56):
What did they do? Joe?
Speaker 6 (49:59):
Makeup? Be the illusion that you're someone that you're what's one.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Of the most what's one of the what's one of
the most popular holidays.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
For adults, Halloween? I get to dress up. I get
to beat something that I'm not.
Speaker 6 (50:14):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
Yeah, playing, that's what it is. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 6 (50:21):
I wish I wish they I wish they could.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
I wish they could have a day so the world
could really appreciate them for who they really are.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Oh, I said, Okay, one more thing I forgot. We
said O Jay's number was twenty two. It was thirty two.
Thirty Yeah, yeah, thirty two. I should have I should
have called it. Yeah, yeah it was. It was. It
was thirty two. And so before we go into what
he what he allegedly did, ain't no defense We're not
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and I we ain't offering no defense for Oj're.
Speaker 6 (50:54):
My last my last name, my last name.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
No no, or Jerry Spence or any of these big
time That is what we do. We were talking about
the man, the football player that succumbed to his battle
with cancer.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
That's what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
So oh oh night cap uncan o Joe was defending.
Speaker 4 (51:10):
Ain't nobody defending anything.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
No, no, So don't don't even go out there and
take that out there and you don't offer it. There's
nothing to defend what we were upset about. What I
was upset about. You could speak to yourself. Is that
what Caitlyn Jenner said, good Renners is in celebrating the
death of someone?
Speaker 4 (51:30):
What oo and I I mean?
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Had she not said what she said, we would have
never mentioned her name, and then we could have just
talked about oja a. He was a tremendous football player.
The credits that he had in acting Baked Gun, most
people knowing for Naked Gun. Uh uh, the one he
had Elizabeth Montgomery. We would have just talked about that,
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but we had to bring her in it because she
inserted herself in it because she thought it was cute.
Nor did she realize that she took a man's life.
Speaker 6 (52:04):
Yeah, listen, hey, what's it? What's the saying?
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Let ye who waits? It's the first stone?
Speaker 4 (52:12):
What?
Speaker 2 (52:12):
What's what's the saying? Do you not least you'd be judged? Okay,
we'll take that. I take that one.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
Something about a glass house, don't throw a stone at
whatever it is.
Speaker 6 (52:23):
I don't know how to say it.
Speaker 4 (52:24):
So what else we got?
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Tom Brady said he's not apposed to an NFL comeback.
Let's listen to what TB twelve had to say.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
Let's say one day there's a situation, right if it's
the forty nine ers, maybe you know, headed to the playoffs.
Speaker 8 (52:39):
Offense is great, Patriots, somebody somebody raiders could be you
never know, Scott.
Speaker 6 (52:44):
Forbid, somebody goes down, would you pick up that phone.
Speaker 4 (52:48):
I'm not opposed to it if they were.
Speaker 8 (52:50):
I don't know if they're gonna let me by becoming
an owner in the NFL team, But I don't know.
If I don't know, I'm always going to be in
a good shape. I always be able to throw the ball,
so to come in for a little bit like Ja
coming back.
Speaker 4 (53:02):
Even't know if they let me, but I wouldn't be
opposed to it.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
I like it, Oh, Joe, I like it like like
a basketball player.
Speaker 4 (53:09):
Cume back. You can sketch. You could regulate his minutes.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Okay, you only go play twenty minute, you only go
play twenty five minutes quarterback. I don't know Tom Brady,
how you regulate his minutes because he gonna want to
be able to be a little Joe.
Speaker 6 (53:20):
Yeah, that most definitely.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
And the funny thing about it is if you have
to understand with the way the NFL has handicapped the
defenses talked about in today's game. Yeah, you can't hit nobody,
you can't do nothing. You can't touch him. Hell, he
can come back even at well forty.
Speaker 4 (53:35):
Six now right be No, he might be holding that
forty seven.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
You know it's funny. I mean a lot a lot
of people will say, no, he can't do it. Well,
you put Brady in the right situation, but he'll.
Speaker 4 (53:47):
Be forty third.
Speaker 6 (53:49):
Hold on, let me take my glasses off real quick, chat, stay.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
With good Okay, we witch what happens?
Speaker 1 (53:54):
What happens you put Tom Brady on the pa on
not the Patriots. You put Tom Brady in place brock Purdy.
What happens if you put Tom Brady in the forty nine.
Speaker 4 (54:03):
I just hold you. I just hope nobody hits it.
Speaker 6 (54:09):
Well, what happens if you put Brady the supporting cast?
Speaker 1 (54:12):
Matter of course it does, boy Brady over there with
the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
But but oh Joe, did you listen? What was the
first team that he named?
Speaker 6 (54:26):
Patriots?
Speaker 4 (54:27):
That's not an accident.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
All this notion Tom was ready to leave. Bill Belichick
pushed Tom Brady out the door. It's like your you
have you ever been Scott Davinojo.
Speaker 6 (54:41):
Yeah, I ain't. I ain't even use no parachute.
Speaker 4 (54:43):
Go ahead, but.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
They take you up about twelve thirteen thousand feto show
and the plane is going along and all of a
sudden the plane steve break. All of a sudden that
door opens. Now I'm in a two man town.
Speaker 4 (55:00):
The mojoke.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
We started to walk to the Miss Sharp you ready?
Speaker 4 (55:06):
I hey, Ojo, he asked me, said, mister Sharp, were
you ready? And before I could say yeah or you
was out of there.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
I was like, oh, I wasn't, but I guess I
am back.
Speaker 4 (55:21):
You can't put me. I can't put me back in there.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
It is as a it's an un I mean, think
about it, O Joe. You you know sometimes you we've
all jumped up. You play receiver. You jumped up and
caught the ball. You're like, damn it don't seem like
my boy ever come down. Just imagine being twelve thousand
feet up in the air. They pushed Tom out. Tom
wasn't ready to leave New England. Don't you let people,
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Don't you let anybody convince you of that? He had
got tired of Coach belichick bull drive. Coach Belichick believed
that he could win a Super Bowl without Tom Brady,
and there would be no doubt that he was the
reason for the success. Reason because we saw in San
Francisco when coach Walsh retired, they went back to back
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with George Sefert.
Speaker 4 (56:12):
They won an eighty eight. Coach Walsh retires, George.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
Seaper comes in eighty nine, they win, get to the
NFC Championship Game. If I'm not mistaken, Robert greg bumbles,
lt recovers, they kick a field goal, they go to
the Super Bowl. So now like, okay, Joe was most
responsible for this. Now with Tom going to Tampa and
coach Belichick.
Speaker 4 (56:36):
Struggling in New England.
Speaker 2 (56:38):
Now that's not to say we can't give coach Belichick credit,
because he deserved credit because after some good players, he
came up with great game plans to neutralize the opposing
team's offense. And Tom was great enough that if the
game was closed, he wasn't.
Speaker 4 (56:58):
He didn't make turn me to mistakes.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
I mean, maybe I can only remember in one big
game AMC Championship game, Tom Brady threw a pick Marlon Jackson.
If I'm not mistake the intercept that are in the
Indie game. That's the game in time that I can
remember that Tom threw a pick the end the game.
And you know, look, we know he lost. He what
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he's what seven and three in Super Bowls? Tom is
seven and three seventy three seventy three, So he lost
three Super Bowls. He lost the couple AMC Championship games
to le Broncos. So he doesn't always get it done,
but for the most part.
Speaker 4 (57:35):
He does.
Speaker 6 (57:37):
Yeah, bet Mellot Belichick.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
We have to give Belichick's credit obviously, being a defensive
mind that he is. Anytime they play someone that has
an elite player, he finds ways to eliminate that indap player.
If you guys are gonna beat us, you're gonna have
to beat us with other guys. And he's always been
great on the defensive side of the all on top
of drafting well and getting the most out of his players.
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But again, this is a quarterback driven league, and if
you don't have a quarterback, no matter how well you draft,
no matter no matter how good that defense is, if
you don't have a quarterback on the other side of
the ball, to be efficient and move that goddamn ball
up and down that field and then not turn the
ball over in critical times.
Speaker 4 (58:19):
And that's what that's what he was great in the game.
Speaker 6 (58:23):
You're gonna always fall.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
It ain't very many times fall that you say, you
know what, man, Tom ain't play well. And even if
he didn't play well, you better be up with one
minute left in the game. You better be up fourteen
because he might not play well. But guess what, let
it be two point, you up head by two, or
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you ahead by one, or you ahead by six, and
he need a touch down the beach.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
Yeah, and it's a game winning drive. But you might
as well strike up the band min as well as well.
But it wasn't lact that that the first team he
mentioned was New England was Patriots, And Tom, you're right.
If you're an owner in the league, that's not gonna
let you play in the league. So you're gonna have
to divest your shares, which I wouldn't do considering.
Speaker 4 (59:09):
Like, hey, you're a part of it.
Speaker 2 (59:11):
It ain't very many and it's not very many former
players that's in the ownership position in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (59:17):
You there, stay there, Tom, You could, but you.
Speaker 6 (59:19):
Know what, listen. Now, there's there's a chance that he might.
Speaker 1 (59:23):
Be the first player who has ownership in the team
that he's not on. But it's also actively still playing.
Speaker 6 (59:30):
It's never been no, you can't play.
Speaker 4 (59:31):
Can you have to divest yourself? Okay, you can come back.
You would have to divest them. I would like to
see it.
Speaker 1 (59:39):
I'm sure he ain't got no problem doing that because
them shares will still be there when he does.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
Somebody else come in and buy them. Just I mean, Tom, look,
and you're right, you're always gonna be Oh y'all. I
mean two years after you play, you like, man, I
can still play. And Tom is just he's only a
year removed. He's here removed. It's not like he's five
(01:00:03):
years removed. We're always That's what makes us who we are.
We always believe we could do things that's not possible.
That's how we became what we became. Yeah, you listen
to everybody told you on your Liberty City. Man, Oh
you ain't going nowhere? You can be right?
Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
How are here with us?
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
I was finna get out of it. I was finna
get up out of there. I was fine, get up
out of there. I left Liberty City. I love, I
love stay with me now. I love saying this. I
left Liberty City without really leaving, because when I left,
I took it with me and always put Liberty City
on display right, always, always, it was always that with me,
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no matter how high I got, no matter how high
how I got, even when I fell, I still remain
consistent and who I was.
Speaker 6 (01:00:53):
But I was getting up out of there.
Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Because remember that was one of the reasons that joy
And went back to the Wizard. He was gonna be
able to get an ownership stake in the Wizards, but
him and mister Poland had fallen out. Mister Poland ended
up firing him. The rest of that, they say, he
ends up buying a minority share into the Hornets, whether
the Hornets of the Bobcasts at the time, but he
ended up going buying buying into the team in Charlotte. Uh,
(01:01:20):
they didn't change the hard shot Bobcast. There were the
Hornets and they whatever, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 6 (01:01:27):
Wait a minute, stay with me.
Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Now what happens he did mention Patriots, I could assure
you mentioned Raiders too.
Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Yeah, but see that's where he has the part ownership
in the.
Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Group ain't no, ain't no telling you know he would
would you say? You got to do these not diverse?
The word is yeah that vest Now I shoot man
Brady Brady Davante Adams. I can I can see that. Yeah,
I can see that. Antonio Pears, I'll let your boy.
Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
What do you want to say? You said so it
was about they were they were a bobcat.
Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
The volume
Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Mm hmm
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