Shannon Sharpe, and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Joe Burrow saying that he wants Trey Hendrickson to get paid, Cincinnati Bengals rookie Shemar Stewart rookie contract issues, and Aaron Rodgers talks about mentoring Will Howard and much more!
01:47 - Introduction
03:00 - Joe Burrow wants Hendrickson to get paid
18:00 - Bengals rookie Shemar Stewart
26:38 - Aaron Rodgers on mentoring Will Howard
30:51 - Miles Garrett on Aaron Rodgers
31:49 - J.Alexander
42:00 - Terry McLaurin
49:00 - Colts’ Reggie Wayne possible interim head coach
53:14 - Anthony Richardson gets second opinion on shoulder
56:46 - Dan Campbell wants to have live lion on sideline
1:01:15 - Marvin Harrison Jr in the gym
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please grab yours while supplies last. Oh Joe, there's saga.
There's drama in Cincinnati. Joe Barrow says he wants the
team to pay Star Pass Russia Trey Hendrickson. He says
the team not paying Hendrickson is a significant distraction. Let's
(01:48):
take a listen to what Joe had to.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Say, jamarant having your great to deals.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Is Trey not being here or his deal not done?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Is that a distraction? Of course?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Course last year we had two, this year we have one,
so we do have less.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
You'd love to have none, but you know that's life
in the NFL World Sport Tray.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And would love for him to be back.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Oh Joe, Yes, sir, it's your take.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Well listen, listen.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I love Joe.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Joe also had to understand this his business. It's his business,
and the Browns have one way of doing things. They've
done things one way. And despite what he may say,
despite his concerns about wanting Tree to be paid, or
him or being a distraction with him not getting paid.
This is the way they conduct business. All teams conduct
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business in the same manner. They're not going to be
swayed or forced or bullied into paying the individual based
on how we as players, whether we deform or fans
see fit. They're going to do things their way. They paid,
They paid Joe Burrow, they paid Jamar Chase, they they
(03:00):
paid t Higgins. I don't know. I don't have the
numbers in front of me. I don't know how much
is left, uh in caloriees, salary cap space.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
But not enough to pay trade what he wants.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Would not actually not enough to pay him what he wants.
But I'm assuming maybe they're trying to find some middle ground.
But from what I've heard that there are no talks
going on at all, So I do trade. Trey is
standing in his ground, and he's not in a position
despite being the sack leader last year and the sack
leader before that the year before that. Like he was
(03:33):
a sack leader, but what was our defense rank? Can
someone look that? Can't ass look that up right now?
I mean, he just was really quick, just curious.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Without trade, you'd have been you'd have been seventeenth in college,
so you had trade for you at the bottom at
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Okay, so they look at all that, they look at it. Listen,
I wanted to get paid. I wanted to get paid
for based on what he's done, you know, to date.
But they look at it completely different than the way
we look at it as fans, and obviously me. Listen,
I love my banngals and I love I would love
for trade to get bade. But uh, it's a tough
spot that we're in. I'm not sure what's gonna happen.
(04:08):
I think at some point, if things don't get worked out,
I'm assuming maybe a trade of some sort might happen
at the least opportune time, when we least expected.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I look at it like this, oh Joe, considering he's
the best defensive player, and when you look at that
defensive line, who else? Most teams have two guys, yes, yes,
you know, you have Micah and then you have another guy.
Or you look at let's just say, for the sake
of Ark, you look at the Eagles, they have multiple guys.
You look at Kansas City they have Chris Chris Jones
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and have Coloftus. You know, they have multiple guys most teams,
although they're not on the same level, but they have.
You look at a hot Smith and you look at Watt,
so most guys have somebody.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
To play off of. It's him. Yeah, he let the
league in sacks, but really no one else besides.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
You know, and brother Sam Huppert just retired.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yes, hurt most of the Yeah, yeah, he was hurt.
And also when I think about it, I look at
the AFC North right from a standpoint and needing defensive players.
It's bad enough we're already bad on defense. Then let's
not make it worse, at.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Least in the city Buffalo, Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
And yeah, I mean, my goodness, like we we need
trade in the in the the dearest dearest way possible
to try to do what we can defensively. So we
can we can. We can start a little better this season.
You know, I know we always talk about the offense.
You know, they always start slow, always out out the gate,
you know, being zero and to or one in one whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
We got to stop somebody though, Yeah, we gotta be
okay you said, I'm saying, but here's the thing. They
have one bad too bad possessions. Their defense can't stop anybody. Now,
all of a sudden, you fourteen points down. Hey, you
gotta lead. Okay, let's just say, for the sake of Barbie,
you have a And we saw this against Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
They have two bad possessions. Now Baltimore has the leader.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
The lead.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, so what how far away are we from from
having a decent defense? Just curious you from your listen,
you know this is this is.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And y'all just cut Pratt. Remember y'all released Pratt?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yes, so wall hold on Pratt with prattp Prapp with
a little back was the mic linebacker.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, he led your team in tackles.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
He did so.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Logan Wilson plays. They drafted somebody. They drafted somebody in
the second round out of South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I was reading yesterday night.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
They must he must be played.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
They see really high on him.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, we're gonna be gonna plug and play then, huh.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, we got to remember. Pratt was like, hey, he
wanted a contract extension. He wanted to be you know,
want to bump and pay. They're like, noah, bro, we
can't bump you and pay. I was reading, now, I
don't know you know, maybe somebody just throwing out numbers.
I think Trey's supposed to make what fifteen, sixteen, seventeen million.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, they're trying to get him to twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I don't think he's looking at list anything that doesn't
start with a three. No, I'm not now I honestly,
because you see, you see he's like, hold on, one
guy making fifty five, another guy making forty, another guy
making thirty, and then y'all want me to come in
at twenty eight, And he sees Miles Garrett. He knows
Michael is about to get something that starts with a four.
(07:18):
Y'all want me to start with a two? Yeah, I
just don't see that.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Not. Let's be fair.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
If he wants to get what he wants, he's not
gonna be able to get it because everything you just
ran off, we just pakee making fifty five, then there's
no room for you to make do you tall? Do
you take a discount? Do you take a discount?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
And no, the question is better question does he miss
the first eight games and then come back to the
last eight games to make sure he gets a credited season,
or does because that's what I would do, because if
you don't come back, they still have your rights. So
I would you know it. That depends on how serious
he is about his money.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Oh, he's serious. He's serious, and this this is the
thing that you can do when they know you the game,
when they know you love the game, and they know
you can't stay away from the game. There was want
to be team first team that teams and team oriented
and be the but when it comes time to play,
this is what this is what happens. Yeah, let's talk
about the Bengals in general. I'm talking about in general.
(08:15):
They will use your love for the game against you
because the bus inside of things will sneak upon you
and bite your nass. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I'm trying to think a guy that Sean Gilbert might
be the only guy that I can remember that missed
the whole season and then he ended up turning around
and getting paid. I think he went to Carolina. I
think it's with Washington and he ended up going to Carolina.
It might be vice versa, but that's what I mean.
I think the thing is to say what I would do.
(08:44):
It's easy to say what because you're not in that situation. Me.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I ain't missing no time.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I understood that that was time I wasn't gonna be
able to get back. And like you said, Oh Joe,
I think the thing is, they know the guys that really.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Everybody don't love the game like we do. Now.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, definitely, so they're gonna hard time up. Well, it's
all we got knowing. Damn well, we might miss a game,
but we ain't missing no half of those seasons, entire season.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
We love it too much. Listen.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
And the funny thing about it is, I love the game,
but I think during my time I was in fortunate situations.
I think where they came to me early twice, right
in the early where I didn't have to deal with
that type of situation. It just to me, it's almost
it's almost a slapping the face a little bit when
you think about it. Yeah, almost a slapping the face.
(09:32):
And we take it personally as players, and I know
they do when situations like this arise. When you understand
what your value is, you understand what the market is,
and then you have a team that's hesitant in giving
you said market value. Listen, one thing about it. I
don't care how many how many players you got got paid.
(09:53):
There's always a way to make it happen depending on
who the players. You do understand that, right.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yes, But what I don't get from the Bengals, Oh Joe,
if you had this problem last year and you didn't
resolve it and during the season or after the season,
what makes you thought the the problem is going to
go away. It's like if you have a disease and
don't talk about it, just because you don't talk about it,
you better go get it, you better treat it. Yeah,
(10:18):
because talking about it, but because not talking about a problem.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Like it's like two people argue, oh Joe, and you
go to bed.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
That issue is not gonna be resolved in the morning
because you didn't talk about it that night. As a
matter of fact, you're gonna give people an opportunity to
build up. They're like this bofo playing with me. He
couldn't address me. They know, so you led over the steaming.
She led over the steaming. You know, you get out
of bed in the morning, you stepping on lips because
the lip poked out to the flow. His lips poked
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out to the flow. So I don't understand how the
Bengals thought this situation. And he had another seventeen and
a half sex season and he led the NFL in
sacks and somehow you thought he was nobody.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well, we got a good chance to go.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
You had a good chance to go to the super
Bowl last year or the playoffs last year, and it
didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Guys are not you know.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Teams always want you to think, oh, take big picture. No,
the big picture is me and my family, and that's
the big picture I'm thinking about. I don't know what y'all, Peyton,
because Ojo what they what they tell you, Ojoe when
they release players? You here and I think we're gonna
talk about this a little later. Joah here yea and
Google Kiff said what he's said. They're always thinking about
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what is the best interest of the team.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Okay, what is the best interest of the business?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Okay? Players are businesses, Yes, what isn't the best interest
of Trey Hendrickson? Not playing is in the best interest
to Trey Henderson being all unest Now, I'm not telling
the guy what he should or what he shouldn't do,
but this is what we do know. He take his
ass out there on that field, and he gets anything
that happens, Lord forbid, it does not.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yes, sir, he ain't getting no pay day.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I know that, Yes, sir, Yeah, listen. I think is
tough one tough spot. The Bengals organization is in a
tough spot. Trey Hendrickson is in a tough spot. Joe
Burrow saying that it's a distraction to those that are
in an organization, those that are that are on the team,
those that are at mini camp right now. I think
for the fans it's a distraction and it's just like
overwhelming and they're like, God, damn, here we go again.
(12:21):
But again fans. As players, you have to be able
to separate the personal side of being a football player
in the business side. I think if you can, you
can compartmentalize and be able to separate the two and
understand that it is business first. It's not personal. It's
nothing against you as a player, but this is the
way they conduct themselves, not just with the Bengals, but
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with every team in general. I think you'll be all right.
I want Tray to get his money though, you know,
even if it's not with us, I would love to
see him back with the Bengals, but I would also
love to see him get what deserves somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Because I think the thing is, Oh Joe. What happens
is that Joe would like to talk about what a
great deal practice they're had, Yes, sir, but the media
is asking him about Trade's contract. They're asking him about
the rookies contract, who we're going to talk about in
just a second. So he's like, bro, I'm trying to say, hey,
T and I had a great comment, had a great
work today. We got some great work to done today.
(13:17):
We got better today. But you're asking me about a
player that's not here. I don't know what you want
me to say. Joe is being the leader that he is. Yeah,
we love to have Trade, and I think he's done
enough to he's earned, not deserve, he's.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Earned a raise and pay because guess what.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Let's just say, for the sake of argument, Oh Joe,
instead of having seventeen and a half sacks, he had
five and a half sacks. Do you think they would
keep him on the contract that he has now? Absolutely not,
I answer it for you know they wouldn't. So now
he outperformed the contract, you don't want to reward him,
but if he underperformed, you will punish him. Yes, and
(13:57):
that's the way it is, and hopefully fans like see
that and I understand. Look, I understand you weren't running
a business, but guys normally played better guy's team after
being in you know, a business you're working, perform better
when they're compensated.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, Oh and you're happy, yes, which is which is
one of the reasons. Why do you think they always
go ahead and pay the quarterback. Yes, they always paid
the quarterback. You get your quarterback out the way, so
he had nothing to worry about. He's in the right
state of mind and you can focus on the job
at hand, no distractions and again, not being able to
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get your money after putting in all the work, you know,
the sacrifice, the sweat, the injuries.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
He led. I mean there, I mean he led the
entire league in sacks. He did that, Yeah he I
mean he had seventeen and a half. He was I mean,
he was in the running for defensive Player of the Year.
And he's probably thinking to himself, what the hell do
I have to do to get rewarded for my hard work.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah, that's crazy, it's unfortunate. And listen, this is this
happens all the time. Yeah sure, Well, it happens all
the time, Ye happens. It's his turn, his turn.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Bengals rookie Shamar Stewart is still waiting to take his
first practice rep in the NFL. He also had some
words for the Bengals today in comparing his situation with trades.
Let's take a listen to what he had to say.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Like some people say, we all greed, trade will be right, right,
but technically still one percent wrong for being under contract.
So and in my case, I'm one hundred percent right,
so it should be a no brainer. And in trades case,
I think it should be a no brainer too. I mean,
he led seventeen and a half second two for two years
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back the back.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
If I was the gym or I was the owner,
take all my money.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
But I guess they don't offer it like that, but
you know they do not. Hey, listen, hey, it's easy
to say take all my money when you not the gym,
and oh yes, money don't easy to say that, but listen,
you learn quick. You learn, you learn quick, and you
learn fast. Rookie will understand that this is a business
and it's running a little different. It's running little different.
(16:12):
Now he's had seventeen and a half sex back to
back seasons, right, and then they're they're hesitating, they're hesitant
on paying them. So in situations like this, this will
tell you how they really feel about you. Yes, depending
on the player is, depending on who the player is
and how much they value you and what you bring
to the table. Oh man, they're not even playing when
(16:33):
it's time to get paid. I don't care who I
don't care who you are.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Let's say this is what Mike Florio for Pro Football
Focus right this Football Talk PFT. He said, the Bengals
have decided to wedge a new clause into Stuart's deal.
The clause would turn a default in any given year
into a void of all remaining guarantees, and prior Bengals
contracts avoid wiped out only the guarantees for the year
(17:00):
in which the default occurred. Stuart refuses to be the
be guinea pig for the new term, and the Bengals
refused to blink. As a result, Stuart will be less
prepared for training camp than he would have been.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
So in other word, a lot of times they put
a clause in there.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Oh Joe, it's said if you do something wrong, the
money you were supposed to get in that year, right
is wiped away. Now they put the new clause in
there say if you do something wrong, any guaranteed that
you're supposed to get in twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven,
twenty eight. That's gone too. Oh no, hell no.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I understand. To me, honestly, I don't. I don't like
the verbiage. But again I would. I would have it
on a year to year basis and this year if
you mess up, you know, and there was contact der
MISSISSI the team or sess that is that serious where
we need to recoup some of that money back. That's
guaranteed I see fit to do so. But yes, messing
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up on the board the board pop absolutely not hell
and not over what. But man, that made me curse.
Don't made me curse that I just got seen the
other day.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Don't do that.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Don't do that. But I know they're trying to set
a president. I'm not sure what president that not with
me not listen outside of don't get in any trouble period.
I don't know if he has a pass, if he
has the past history of doing things wrong, I don't
know for them to actually want to put that clause
in his contract all of a sudden, out the blue
(18:34):
set a president with this individual. I'm not sure what
his path looks like, that's anything I could think of,
and why they want to do something.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Like that, and no, but it seems to be like
this is something that they're trying to do moving forward
to everybody. Yes, only because the clause would the default
in any given year into a void of all remaining
guaranteed and prior being contracts, a void wiped out only
(19:02):
guaranteed for which the year the default a courage. So
if he did something in twenty five, okay, we wipe
out the guarantees in twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven,
twenty eight is protected. Now they're saying, if you default
in twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight get
wiped away. Oh hell no, oh Joe, that's the whole
(19:22):
purpose of guaranteed, if to be able to get to guarantee. Yes.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah, I have a question. Are there any other NFL
teams that practice the same clause in their contracts?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Or we wouldn't We wouldn't know that. Uh, well, there's
some some you have a contract. Let's just say for
the sake of argument, you and the NFL you're a
wide receiver. Or it's like coaches, like a college, like
an NFL coach, I give you you say, I got
three year left on my deal at twelve million dollars
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a year, Yes, sir, I get a new job whatever.
So now it offsets. So what to happen is offset language.
So if I get a job from another team, howver
much that team plays, that I have to pay the
remaining So if I get a deal for nine million
over there, I only have to pay three million over
(20:16):
here where I left got left at. You know what
I'm saying, right some people right here, there is no
offset language. Jimbo Fisher, Jimbo Fisher got released, he gives
all eighty of that remaining money.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
It was eighty two to be exact, Okay, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
So sometimes they try to put offset language where you
can't double dep. Players can't double dep. So if you
get released and you go sign with another team, they
ain't got nothing to do with you. I want the
money that you owe me, and I'm gonna get the
money they gonna give me that. Don't you worry about
what I got. You just gonna make sure that a
just go ahead and make sure you keep your chicks coming.
(20:55):
I will be hey, you got you got the wide number,
go and put it in there, direct the posit. So
that's what and some teams do. Some teams will have
offset language. If you get another job, even in TV,
you get released by one network, you go somewhere else.
They just pay the difference, So you got X whatever
(21:16):
the case may be. So if you get if you
get say five million over here, you only get two
and a half over there.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
You gonna get two and a half.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Hey, hey man, this is this is as much as
people love the beautiful game, they I don't think they
understand the nasty business side of it. No, they don't
nasty business side of it. It can get other, It
can get very ugly. And the fact there is a
reason why when it comes to contracts and negotiations or
or a situations like this is the reason why the
agents go in there are not the players. Because if
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the players go in those rooms and you hear how
owners really feel about you and what they really want
to do, and the language they want to put in
the fire, the five print language that they want to
put in contracts to protect themselves from having to pay
you long term if you mess up. They oh listen,
it was it was some stuff. I don't want to
bring up the past, but it was some stuff in
(22:07):
in Tea's contract and in Chase's contract that was that
wasn't suitable.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
It wasn't Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
You know, it wasn't right. So if they were, if
they if they were doing it to Tea and Chase,
you know who the meeting potatoes that that offense outside
of Joe, I know they're gonna do it the trade
and they definitely gonna do it to the rookie.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
But it's it's it's business man, it's it's business.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Never personally like, hey, you don't gonna do a I'm
gonna call it Joe Burrow agent. Hey, bro, y'all got
this language in your contract. They do it all the time.
They do it all the time. Nah, bro, you're not finna.
I'm not finna. Be no guinea pig, You're not finnah
sit no press. They were me and then everybody that
(22:50):
comes after me, they looking at me crazy because I
allowed it to happen, become out of the highest draft
pick the year that they started this foolishness, and I
agree to it.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Now, how can this go though? What if he refuses
to play? What if he refuses to sign the contract
unless they remove that language?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
What happens? That's it. They either have to remove the
language or he has to say that I'm not playing.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Who that can get ugly?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Humm? I hope he did. I hope he got some
good nil money.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
He hadn't spent too much, He hadn't promised his mom
or dad or whomever house.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yet, right, damn? And don't I don't like that for him?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I don't neither. Aaron Rodgers was the latest veteran quarterback
to weigh in on mentoring the next generation. In his case,
he was asked about mentoring Will Howard. He responded, Will's
a good kid. We got to talk a little bit.
(23:50):
I thought he did a really I thought he did
really well today. He seems pretty bright going through the progressions.
Really well. I'm gonna be with him every single day,
every single meeting. Found myself see next to him today
in the offensive meeting, whether or not it's stick right
next to Will Howard. So I'm gonna help him out
as much as I can, okay, o Joe, Oh yo,
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you know what I gonna lie to, Yo Joe. Let
me tell you it's true short, Oh Joe, I got
middled in college with math. Ain't none of that is stick.
I told you once we got past timetables, me and
math really didn't get along, O Joe, Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
If I couldn't do this like this here, yeah, or
write it down a little scratch paper, yes, final sieck one,
Me and.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Math with it.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Hey, you start getting the fractions and pies.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yeah, it's only one pie. I know that's apple pie,
but that's it. But if he can pie and.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Then start talking about if a train left at four
thirty in the morning and train D LEFTIDT six o'clock
in the afternoon, at what point were there?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Hold hold on, hold on if Johnny, if Johnny had
five apples he gave Amy three. Yeah, but Adam brought
back sixty. Man, If you don't, I'm like, who hold
on my face?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Two trains.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
One leaves at four point thirty am, the other leads
at six pm at one.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Time, but I don't how fast are they going? I
don't know what.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Bet I see, O Joe, I don't know why they
just could do, why they could do twelve times twelve,
why they could do sixty forty nine from sixty is
how But they start doing all the other stuff out
there they go with me, so.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Be a math, Me and math We were not good
and uh, the bath my favorite thing?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Oh sure? Hey, yeah, hey whatever, Hey was funny black.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah. But see when it come to percentage. Okay, you
got this much and you won't get a percentage? Bro?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
How much is that? How much you want? How about
you won't bad?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
You start getting Hey, let's do a round number, because
we start getting seven hundred and seventy six dollars and
I'm getting you getting three and a half percent of that? Fine,
come on, bro, Hey, I got I got, I got
thirty five dollars for you? Okay you thirty five dollars?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
You asking an awful lot.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Bad. I ain't got tired to be doing all that.
You know, you do this and you and you add
point two four or point four. No, man, I ain't
got all that. I got time for that.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
So no, So I get what Aaron is saying mentoring.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
And because everybody processes information differently, Joe, Yeah, me, I
was a visual learner. I need you to see you
put it on the board. Hey Shannon, I want you
to go do this and do that like no, no, no, no,
joy the issue on the board. And once I saw
that's okay, I'm good. Now I'm good. I'm a visual learner.
Don't explain nothing to me, show me. But at the
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end of the day, hey bright, that was funny. At
the end of the day, at the beginning of the day,
or at the middle of the day. Oh Joe, How
well does somebody process information? How well do they retain information?
And then can you spit it out? That's it?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Can you split it out?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Because sometimes some people can read something and have no
earthly idea what the hell they read. Some people can
skim over it and give you a great synopsis of
what it actually saying.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah, everybody processes information different they do is.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Miles Garrett had a simple response today about Aaron Rodgers
joining the AFC North.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I think it's a good opportunity to put him in
the graveyard.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
That's the type of answer you expect from a deep zen.
Oh yeah, for sure, the type of answer you expect
from one of, if not the best des in n
N in the NFL. Listen, you got to deal with
Aaron Rodgers twice a year. Ain't letting them know ahead
of time. You already know what time it is. I'm
not hit a nice about you.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Oh no, no, no, no, no at all.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Actually, I'm trying to I'm trying to add you. I'm
trying to add you to the resume. You know. I
don't know if I've got an opportunity to sack Peyton
Manning or tarm Brady or somebody, but hey, you're the
next best thing I'll take. I might not have an
opportunity to get them, but I can get your ass.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah, most definitely. But they listen, Shit, they asked the
wrong They asked the wrong one.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Pakrapheo and President Mark Murphy had some shame for Joy
Alexander when asked about the recent release. He's been a
great player for US, obviously, elite tallent. Unfortunately just injure
a lot. Unfortunately, that's a big part of the game.
We see that we've been used to playing without him.
Alexander played fourteen games over the last two seasons.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, damn, hey play fourteen games. Listen. Injuries, it's something
you can't avoid. But one thing I know about that
young bull. When he's healthy, when he's on the field
and he's playing man the man in your face, he's
gonna get everything he got any one of the best
that he wanted, the best at it, but it doesn't
get the credit he deserves because he's been injured. I
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can only speak on what I've seen. When I see
him on the field. He gonna talk that trash through
YouTube and back it up the best he can. Him
and Justice Jeffs the matchups. Those matchups were classic. He
wants and he lost some. But either way, I'm tuning
in every time. Who used tolde them together, he gonna
go somewhere. I don't know where you're gonna go.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Three those they understand. They need to understand what they're
getting when he is healthy and do whatever they need
to do to get him on that field and keep
him on there.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
That's the toughest part about it, Ochoe, because being available
is a big part of how good you are. You know, boy,
he's a good worker. When I can get him to
come to work, that is't what the day did right right? Uh?
And I look, he's injured. I think he said he
had a maniscus or something. He had a shoulder injury.
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When you play a skilled position, it's hard to go
out there and play with something wrong with you because
you got a lower extremity. Because that's how where am
I going though, Joe? If I can't all of a sudden,
I can't be sudden all of a sudden, I'm a
dB and I can't raise my arm. How do I
knock down the pass? How do I intercept the past?
Or if I got an injury, bout something with my knee,
(30:49):
my hips or something ankles? Because guess what only thing
people in the stand seeing, people at home see, man,
y'all you're a game up a touchdown. Man, I'm sorry.
He don't feel off bad because he used to be good.
He doesn't feel off bad. That's what they see. They
don't see Monday to you know, and getting treatment and
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all that stuff. You're not able to practice, you potentially
have to shoot up, you have to take medication. They
don't see any of that. All they see is Alexander
on the back of that pack of jersey, and whether
or not he's making plays or not. It's really that simple.
Did you or didn't you?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Damn that's unfortunate, man.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And I guess they were trying to like come to
a number that was amenable to both parties, excuse me,
and they could just never get there. Maybe he thought
it was too low, they thought it was too high.
And at the end of the day, we've seen teams
and amount of money they won't eat. Because we seen
them eat Aaron Rodgers' contract Green Bay. We've seen the
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Broncos eat Russell Wilson's contract. So there is not a
denomination forty fifty sixty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
They don't care.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
And there's a good chance the balcon probably have to
eat Cousins Summer Cousin's contract.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
So you don't you don't think obviously he's not gonna move, huh.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
No, because I'm sure they're gonna want whoever whoever take
him to pay up. Some stand each other that that
contract and they're like, nah, we just wait for you
to release him and we can get him a minimum Okay, Yeah, damn,
I mean to pay fifty million dollars for a backup.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Hey, that's good money that boy. Can you imagine? Yeah,
back making a fifty.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Million I just I remember when this deal came down
to you, and I was talking about it, said, oh yo,
we sure was.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, I said, listen, I sure thought he was gonna
get at least two years in. I ain't know he
would he would. I didn't know. I didn't know it
would be that soon.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I said, at best case scenario, he gets two. I said,
but oh yo, what if he only gets one and
you got all that guaranteed money? You and a Russell
Wilson situation.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, yeah, and that's it, And that's exactly what happened. Now.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Russell's situation was a little you know, they wanted some
protections and get the guaranteed money. Blah blah blah. Russell's like, nah,
I'm not waving that and not get it. But cousins
Man and I think they still got another ten million
that year they away, cause he got one hundred and ten.
I think he got. He got one hundred signed a
four year, one hundred and eighty million dollar deal, but
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one hundred and ten of it was guaranteed fifty sing
bonus and then sixty over the next two years.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Hey, one thing by brother cousins Man. Listen, God, God
he he God has been good to him great and
his timing his timing has been impeccable every time, and
he better on himself. One thing about it, when you
better on yourself, He's come out on top every single time.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
So how about you got eighty four? He got eighty
four to sign one hundred and eighty four million, not no,
eighty four million forty that's twenty one million dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Huh. No, I was talking about We talked about cousins. Doctor.
I was like, I was, I was like, twenty doll Now,
you're way more than that.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah. And that's the thing though, o Jo, I mean cousin. Now,
Cousin's got like fifty million guaranteed. He got signing bonus
because I think he had one hundred and ten It
was one hundred and eighty for four years, and then
I think he had one hundred and ten guaranteed, maybe
one hundred and fifty guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Whea, Hey, could you imagine because a chap could you imagine?
Just close your eyes real quick and just imagine you
go to sleep at the night and you wake up
in the mornings and it's fifty million in your bank account.
But uncle Saymingon took half of.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
It, o Jo, He got fifty, he got ninety total.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Fully if you think about it, o yo, he's never
had a contract since he became to start in Wahing.
It wasn't guaranteed because I remember he played on he
played on the franchise tag. One year, he played on
the franchise tag. The second year, Minnesota fully guaranteed the deal.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
And then he came back.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
He got another fully guaranteed deal and now what to
call him? Just gave him one hundred million fully guaranteed. Hey,
so he got fifty this year, he got fifty. Last
year he got forty. This year, that's ninety. He got
another T in next year.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Hey, listen, that's god, child man, God don't play by this.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Children, He don't. But when we come to Gaire for
the Mark Murphy to say what he said, you think
that's phairophile.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
You know what, what did you tell me? What did
I tell you? I want owners? You say you wont
you wote the truth? More owners need to start speaking
like this.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
They don't really have an owner. They have a CEO.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
This is the only T that all the tea that
doesn't have ownership, right, yeah, I mean listen, tell us
how you really feel right now, the Bengals are in
this situation right now. I mean, obviously I know there's
no one over there that would do that, But tell
us why you really don't want to pay it? You
know it would be it would be, it would be
a breadth of fresh air if we can get owner
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to speak out, why then't really don't want to do things?
Somebody with Mike Murphy? What Mark Murphy?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Did?
Speaker 1 (36:22):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
We like him, we just don't feel we want to
invest that much money into him. We don't think he's okay.
He got he got seventeen and a half sacks two
years in a row. But if we don't think he
can do it for another year, right, just.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Come out and say it.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
We don't see it as a Michael Parsons or we
don't see him as a Miles Garrett type. He's a
Tier two DEFICI. Come out and say it, because if
it was anybody else, hell, if it was Miles Garrett,
oh you're gonna get your money.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Well it's kind of like I think I think, who
was it?
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Ranch Ricky? I wanted the one of a big contract.
He said, what you hit last year? Son? He said,
I hit three fifty seventeen homers and eighty five RBIs.
He said, what place did we finish in the division?
He said, we finished last. He said, we can finish
that without you. So I guarantee your Cincinnatis having this conversation. Yeah,
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where did we finish within defense with seventy when you
got those seventeen half sacks? You were in defensive Player
of the Year running. Where did we be finished? Where
did we finished defensively? Okay, we can finish that without you.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Yeah, And that's the that's how they're.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Guaranteed they're having those conversations. Yeah, because it should we
you and I thinking, oh, Joe, he should be a
no brainer. The guy got seventeen a half sacks. He
did it one year. He didn't do it just one year.
He did it two years. Yeah, So you're like, okay,
fire gool, But a lot of times what the mistakes?
And sometimes you know you's better to wait. If you
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get Tea, you save yourself probably thirty million dollars if
you sided him last year, If you go ahead and
give see now, if you gave a Trey twenty eight
million last year, he jump on that with both feet. Yeah,
Now he sees where the market is going to market,
is not in the in the in the high twenties,
low thirties, the markets in the forties.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yeah, you see, you know what you see what you
just said the way you've just explained it about the
timing of wins fighting to pay the players, and that's
the difference in brother Harry Roseman and Jeffrey Lewy. Yeah,
the timing and when they decide to play players has
always been impeccable. They get him before it's too high
(38:37):
they Yeah, they get him at the right time where
it makes sense. And it's almost to a point where
it's team friendly in a sense because you can continue
to build around them.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
And man I wish man I wish more teams did that.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah, I don't give himself up ship.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Uh. We previously spoke about the reports that Terry McLaurin
is frustrated with the lack of progress on a long
term deal. Well, new reports say that scary Terry is
not attending Commander's many camp. All these camps, now, oh Joe,
are mandatory. There are no more voluntary. They're all mandatory.
O Jo.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
How was the situation end? You don't get that money,
don't get his money.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Yeah, I'm gonna tell you how you're gonna get his money.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
How you gonna get it?
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Jayde and Dan will go up, y'all, Hello, who is
it in?
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Jaden?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
I need my number one quarterback. I need my captain.
I'm not sure what you need to do on your end,
but I know what I need on my end. I
need scary Terry to get that money. So I had that.
That that's safety net. So I had that individual to
throw to the same one. Pull up the film from
last year. I don't understand what the problem is. I
don't know what we mulling around for. Get him his money.
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Still got two years before I'm up, so we're gonna
be all right.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
No, I'm going yeah this year, next year, after next year,
I'm gonna come see you too. And if I got him,
that increases my value too, because I know I'm gonna
put up big numbers and uh, I see where it's going.
So I'm about I'm trying to get sixty two. Damn,
I'm trying to get hold on. I tried to get Josh.
(40:24):
I'm trying to get Josh Allen number sixty two. Josh
Allen would have signed two years. I'm two years after
Josh Allen. I'm trying to keep the market going. Okay, okay,
how much Josh Allen? How much Josh Allen got full
of guaranteed? I'll tell you what you ain't got to
give me. You ain't got to give me for three hundred,
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make it all guaranteed, three hundred Josh Allen got three thirty.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
How much is full of guaranteed? Two fifty?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
He got a quarter billy, he got two fifty full
of guaranteed. Okay, boom, that's me. So six years, three thirty.
I don't really care nothing about that. Tell me how
much if it floods, if it's snow, if it's a
tornado or range stort, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Tell me what I'm gonna be, what I'm gonna get.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
So guess what by that time on Joe two seventy five,
that gonna be going right two seventy five.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Hey, so she destroved on being that in that ballpark too,
then see just.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Strived up there after the season. Absolutely yes, And you
better hold Patrick Mahome, don't do say you know what.
I'm tired all these jokers make it more than me,
give me my true value. He wouldn't do that. Yeah, Pa,
if he won't, you know, I'm saying, he's made it
abundantly clear. He's like, he's doing great with money. They
done great by him, and he's like, look, I'm just
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trying to keep this team together as long as I
possibly can keep his money, good players around me, all
lot Tom Brady as I possibly can.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Hey, and plus the money that I make off the
field can sustain.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
My lifestyle, and it makes up for what he's not
gonna make in contracts as opposed that other quarterbacks has
taking a huge lumsum.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Yeah, he's making I think the thing is ojo when
you look at it. My homeboy, he's gonna be like Brady.
Brady's not the is not the highest paid, was not
the highest paid quarterback, even though he played the most years.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
He didn't make the most money.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Aaron Rodgers is at four hundred and eight million, I think,
and then Matthew Staffords at three ninety one. Tom Brady
way way on that. I mean, Tom Brady, listen, don't
feel sorry for me. Made really good money. But Tom,
it became painfully became obvious to everybody the most important
thing was rings. It wasn't money because Tom realized as
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a quarterback he was gonna be able to make money.
Now he's making thirty five million or thirty seven million
a year for ten years.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
So he good.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
So he said, now, now look, I give y'all something
to chase, cause y'all can pass me monetarily.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
I want to see the dude that's gonna catch me
with these rains.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Who gonna get eight?
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Who will get seven? Who gonna get six?
Speaker 1 (43:09):
While we talking about it, I'm already there. I'm in
the clubhouse, he says. Look, I've already shot under par
I'm in the clubhouse.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Come catch me.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Dang so.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
God damn tears like, look, bro, I'd have been to
the Pro Bowls out of a thousand yard seasons. I
don't really know what else y'all want me to do.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
I don't know what else I need to do to
show you that I'm worth whatever.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
I say I am.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
So his situation is different. He's gonna get his money.
It's just about being patient and the timing of when
it gets done. Miss Minnie camp to make sure you're
working out before the season, star maybe before training camp.
You don't want to miss another training camp. You don't
want no, Now you don't. You don't do that.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Don't do that.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
And I'm sure that the organization understands you're going in
a different direction. You're going in different directions. You had
a phenomenal season last year. You got things off, you
got things off to a great start. Don't don't f
it up. Don't f it up, don't piss off the fans.
You had a great season NFC championship last year. Let's
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keep that momentum and consistency of greatness going forward and
changing that culture.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Wow. Reports are saying coach wide receiver wide receiver coach
Reggae Wayne reggu Wayinge, that is, Reggie Wayne is viewed
as a possible interim head coach if Shane Steichen struggles
to start the season.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Oh, Joe, I like it?
Speaker 1 (44:51):
You don't like it? Now? Here's the thing you know
they're under You know Jim ursay rest is soul mister
passed away a month ago. Three daughters took over. I
think it's oldest, oldest daughter. Although they all have roles,
she is the majority and she makes the decisions because
even if it's a family thing. The NFL wants that
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be one boys. They want one person to be able
to talk. And so she if the she's the you know,
the oldest, and I guess he, you know, put it
in a situation where okay, you have a thiss and
it's going to go accordingly. But that'll be very very
interesting because it's one thing that like damn, all of
a sudden, we're thrust into this and we're running a
(45:32):
billion dollar corporation. A multi billion dollar corporation is something
entirely different. When you got a head coach situation in
your first year, that's not something that you know, you've
been on the job for five six years old, Joe,
you you want to kind of understand it, but your
first year, you got to make that decision.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
I mean, listen, they've been around the game. Though they've
been around the game long left and nine for you
are certain decisions that are going to be made that
can be you know, somewhat altering business decisions and business decisions,
and that that is one of them. Listen, I'm not
sure who made the call or who made the decision.
When Jeff Jeff Saturday got the opportunity, Jim Mercy Jim Mersey.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
So again he loved his players. He really closed his players.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
I mean, yeah, So, I mean I think that I
think it would be a great, great opportunity for for Reggie.
He knows the organization, he knows the fan base, he
understands the culture and and and what with not the fans,
but what that organization needs to get any back to
their winning ways.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Yeah. But here's the thing, oh, Joe, you have to understand,
Jim Mercy had a personal relationship with Jeff Saturday. Listen,
They're just even though they're around, they don't have the
same type of relationships. They haven't developed that. It it's
different male female, you know what I'm saying on Joe.
So going out, you know, mister Ertha, going out and
drinking with with with Saturday and some of the guys
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is one thing. That's not what they're going to do.
They're not gonna have.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
That same dynamic as their father had. And so that's
what you know.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
I don't wish I don't want Shane stinking. I don't
want him the man to lose his job. But I mean,
this is a situation they're just saying, they're just throwing
stuff up like what if they eat struggles.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Yeah, Shane is gonna be okay. Shane is gonna be okay.
Him losing in job is all predicated on how the
quarterback play is. Yes, listen, the quarterback players. That's all
it comes down to. That's that's not even want to
call it the elephant in the room, but that's the
goddamn elephant in the room. Well, is a quarterback player
gonna play? Because if the quarterback player is bad, he's
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gonna get you fired.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
That's what happens. And sometimes they play just good enough
to get themselves, get the coach fired, and them cut
self cut.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
That's what rich rich used to tell us.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
H Richard Smithew, that special teams coach. He says, Son,
you play just well enough to get me cut and
you fired. So that's gonna be a tough I mean,
I think Houston's gonna be you know, Houston's gonna rebound
even though they wonted division last year. I think they'll
be a little bit better. We would be very interesting
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to see how Jacksonville does this year. They got a
new head coach. They got Travis Hunter. We'll see, uh,
Trevor Lartce.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Yeah, he got to come back.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
He got Bryan Thomas Jr.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Trav Yeah, I'm so, I'm excited. Hey that he is
Jackson Jacksonville. Man, what what else? That stadium gonna be rocking. Boy,
that stadium gonna be rocking.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
O Joe Shane Stikin says Anthony Richardson Village visited doctor
neil Ela Trosh in Los Angeles to get a second
opinion on his shoulder. Stikeen says, nothing has changed, and
the plan is you just read to show it for now.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
There's no timetable on his return.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Damn. So you oh yo, if we start a race,
were running, all of a sudden, you catch a cramp
or you get tired, your stomach start to hurt, so
you stop. Yeah, you see what happens.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
So Daniel Jones right now is the starting quarterback for
the absolutely Okay, Daniel Jones isn't answer either, just f yi.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
It all depends on what's the question. Name the quarterback
that went the duke? He's the answer. Well you say
he's not to ask. I just need to know the
question you ask it first.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
Listen, Daniel Jones is not the answer. I don't care
what people say. About answer the Richardson him being heard
he was inconsistent last year. Whatever it may be, damn
je is an answer either, And I'm then that's no
disrespect to him. I'm just being honest. We saw we
saw a large, simple side of what he could do
in New York, in the biggest market. Yes it's market.
(50:11):
What's some decent talent in the riding? You know, I
think from from a supporting cast standpoint, it's a lot
better than any form, Oh.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
For sure, a lot.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
They got Jonathan Taylor in the backfield. Look at those receivers.
They got Peers and and and and and j Yeah, absolutely,
oh yeah, they got some talent over there. Now the
offensive line defense isn't bad.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
If you can it can't get it done here, then
you are the problem. Damn man. And that was damn
O Joe turn around here for Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Picked the wrong time to have this type of injury.
It's like I said that maybe it since A C.
Jordan something like that. He went to uh the Courland,
Joe Clint. They got l A Neil La troc Remember
I was telling you about him, doctor La Trosh.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Why are they we to do it now?
Speaker 3 (51:11):
And not doing it when the season ended.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
I don't know. Did he have surgery then maybe maybe
he's throwing because a lot of times, you know, they
bring extra quarterbacks and O joe because they don't want
the quarterback throwing so much so early, so so soon,
and sometimes they just get dead arms and you know,
gotta you know. I don't know how much he threw
in the off season, you know, because as a picture,
(51:37):
you know, you gotta throw.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
He might he might might be overdoing it.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Man. They're the possibility of that too. We don't know.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
We just.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Two years ago. Yeah, yeah, it's if he's having I
think it says a c joy, isn't it. He had
he had surgery after his rook well, remember he miss
he only played. He only played like three or four
games his rookie year because he got that shoulder and
he had surgery on.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
They're saying that he some sowredness in that throwing shoulder
that he had surgery on.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Lions head coach Dan Campbell wants to have a live
lion on the team's sideline at Ford Field, but the
NFL said hell no, despite on a Sheila Ford hamp.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
Approving it.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Sheila said, had no problem with it, but the league
apparently frowned upon those type of things. You know what,
He'll be a perfect college coach because they let you
have anything. They let you have a Clysdale, They'll let
you have an elephant, a panther. Lsu got, Lsu got
what a falcon fly ISyE? That like at at Albert
Campbell told pardon my, pardon my tape? Oh Joe, I
(52:54):
mean you want to lie on the sideline? Hell? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (52:58):
Should I like that? So listen that all that does?
It gives me another idea. Obviously I'm not playing, but
I could. Can you imagine me playing for Dan Campbell,
you know, back during those days and the lion on
the sideline, and I got it. I get to come
up with a celebration after scoring using the lion, using
our mascot manh many.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
I could see me jumping in the cage. I guess
I can see that line. Tear your ass up in
that cage. NFL says the last thing, The NFL won't
that infant lion mess right to break up out that cage?
Speaker 3 (53:30):
Jojo right, don't know, listen, don't nobody got no part
of that. Whether you got on pads or not. Because
here's the thing people don't realize.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Like you see a line on television and like hey
that but when you see that bofo imp of close?
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah right, four hundred pounds are all muscle.
Speaker 3 (53:51):
Hey, I want to think about it for the people
in the chat that have cats. Right, just think about this.
Think about the people that have cats. And how quick
in ajib your regular home, the Mexican cat is. Now
you take a full how much they were lion that
has that same type of agility and quickness. Just for
some reason, they see twenty three hours a day and
(54:13):
can still jump out. Man, it's dog there. Let us unbelievable. Unbelievable.
And they's so damn lazy.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
Hey, they sleep half the day. They they hunted at night.
You get there, get their little hunt on, get their
little a and just chill there. What a life, bro Nah?
Like I said, in college, you know, college didn't let
anything go. They have goats, and they have rams, and
(54:41):
they have you know, even Colorado and they're gonna have
Ralphe run on the field or uh who is that?
Oklahoma got Boomer schooner Boomer sooner and the little the
little Benny Horsey. Yeah, NFL said, nah, we're good.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
I like it though. That would be dope. That would
be dope if if they get to implement mascots that
were that that reference the teams, but had the real
mascot outside of just.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
Well we gotta we got we got mascot fund to
run on the field every time this court touched down
the horse. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
Yeah, See, every team, I'm saying every team, the Bengals
should have an actual Bengal Tiger. I mean, I think
it would be dope. It would be fun.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
You got your dad, Bye, I'm just being honest.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
What the Cowboys? They do have a cowboy? I mean,
so I've tried to figure out the Giants how they
gonna get a mascot. How thought they're gonna be gonna
be Dad? Are you gonna be?
Speaker 3 (55:34):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (55:36):
The Giants?
Speaker 3 (55:37):
What is the Giants mascot?
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Was the Giant?
Speaker 3 (55:40):
That's it?
Speaker 2 (55:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (55:42):
Okay, I like it.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
I'm just trying to figure out.
Speaker 3 (55:47):
So the Seahawks having a Seahawk, Yeah, the Colts obviously
having a horse. I'm I'd assume the Chiefs, that's easy. Uh,
who else we got Broncos officer? You have the horse.
Speaker 1 (56:03):
We got thunder.
Speaker 3 (56:05):
Okay, Well panthers having a panther, Oh that would be dope.
A black panther coming, Oh that'll be live. I'm trying
to think what a Raven's It's easy to get a guy,
damn raven.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
Yeah, Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 3 (56:19):
Could you image if they had a big bison?
Speaker 1 (56:21):
Oh you wanted to run out and feel like Ralphi?
Speaker 3 (56:23):
Huh yeah, get you a real bison. Many NFL neither.
They might as well, just.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
You know, try some difference. One thing about the NFL,
they do not want to pay no money.
Speaker 3 (56:35):
They make all the money.
Speaker 1 (56:36):
Though I know that's how you keep it. You keep
keep it. You can, you make it and you don't.
You don't spit it away with lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
Yeah, Marvin Harrison Jr. Have been hitting the gym ojo.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
Even Kyler Murray couldn't believe how different Marvin Harrison Jr.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
Look. When asked about this transformation, Kyler said, hell, I
thought it was Ai. Yeah, he yoke up.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
He more than you.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Joe, he got you.
Speaker 3 (57:01):
Nah, we're buy the same side.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
Nah, Oh Joe, he got you. Joe. I'm bigg I'm
bigger at junior.
Speaker 3 (57:06):
I'm bigger than junior. Nah, trust me, man, trust me.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
What y'all think, y'all think, Oh, you're bigger than all
they gotta do.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Look at me, man, look at this this, look at him, No,
look at me, look at this.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
This.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
This is McDonald's man to talking about. Man.
Speaker 1 (57:27):
Yeah, see, he got real good chicken breasts. You know
he probably had some broccoli, cauliflower, maybe a little carrots, salad,
kale salad, a rougle or something like that.
Speaker 3 (57:41):
Mean what you're talking about, man, But it's real boy
talking about.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (57:46):
Hey, I'm a full sea cut like I can't. I
gotta put I gotta put my tea. I gotta get
an egg, a one side, smaller T shirt just to
keephi a chest down.
Speaker 2 (58:00):
You're still a small No, what this is.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
A two X?
Speaker 2 (58:05):
No it ain't. This is a two X from H
and them.
Speaker 3 (58:08):
I can show you.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
Show me eh and m see God dang yo' send
(58:35):
me some uh some shorts that they talk about. These
are two ex what's that? God damn things? Little? Uh,
that's what I'm saying for two eggs?
Speaker 3 (58:45):
They send me them.
Speaker 2 (58:49):
Bad? You get on that reformer.
Speaker 3 (58:52):
Hey, what kind of shorts thing is?
Speaker 2 (58:54):
They're supposed to be ya shorts.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
Oh they're supposed to be small.
Speaker 2 (58:57):
Huh no, they are not for me.
Speaker 3 (59:01):
Nah, you know, but you know, hey, yoga, you suppose
I ain't never did yoga, man, I'm supposed you supposed
to be free?
Speaker 2 (59:06):
You know? Really? How am I free with those little
love tiny ass things?
Speaker 1 (59:11):
You don't want?
Speaker 3 (59:11):
Nothing baggy though?
Speaker 1 (59:13):
Hey I gotta have I'm about to have to have
a junk strap, old bad. Don't you supposed to have
old baggy stuff in yoga? Oh?
Speaker 2 (59:21):
No, you want to be free?
Speaker 1 (59:23):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (59:24):
Nothing, that's free baggy. It's free, not constricted.
Speaker 3 (59:27):
Okay, I got you.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
YOA I don't know. I think you about have miss
sized these.
Speaker 3 (59:35):
Joe cid. Joe sent me something too, man, So we'll
we'll see.
Speaker 1 (59:40):
We'll see it tomorrow, Joe
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please grab yours while supplies last. Oh Joe, there's saga.
There's drama in Cincinnati. Joe Barrow says he wants the
team to pay Star Pass Russia Trey Hendrickson. He says
the team not paying Hendrickson is a significant distraction. Let's
(01:48):
take a listen to what Joe had to.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Say, jamarant having your great to deals.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Is Trey not being here or his deal not done?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Is that a distraction? Of course?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Course last year we had two, this year we have one,
so we do have less.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
You'd love to have none, but you know that's life
in the NFL World Sport Tray.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And would love for him to be back.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Oh Joe, Yes, sir, it's your take.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Well listen, listen.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I love Joe.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Joe also had to understand this his business. It's his business,
and the Browns have one way of doing things. They've
done things one way. And despite what he may say,
despite his concerns about wanting Tree to be paid, or
him or being a distraction with him not getting paid.
This is the way they conduct business. All teams conduct
(02:39):
business in the same manner. They're not going to be
swayed or forced or bullied into paying the individual based
on how we as players, whether we deform or fans
see fit. They're going to do things their way. They paid,
They paid Joe Burrow, they paid Jamar Chase, they they
(03:00):
paid t Higgins. I don't know. I don't have the
numbers in front of me. I don't know how much
is left, uh in caloriees, salary cap space.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
But not enough to pay trade what he wants.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Would not actually not enough to pay him what he wants.
But I'm assuming maybe they're trying to find some middle ground.
But from what I've heard that there are no talks
going on at all, So I do trade. Trey is
standing in his ground, and he's not in a position
despite being the sack leader last year and the sack
leader before that the year before that. Like he was
(03:33):
a sack leader, but what was our defense rank? Can
someone look that? Can't ass look that up right now?
I mean, he just was really quick, just curious.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Without trade, you'd have been you'd have been seventeenth in college,
so you had trade for you at the bottom at
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Okay, so they look at all that, they look at it. Listen,
I wanted to get paid. I wanted to get paid
for based on what he's done, you know, to date.
But they look at it completely different than the way
we look at it as fans, and obviously me. Listen,
I love my banngals and I love I would love
for trade to get bade. But uh, it's a tough
spot that we're in. I'm not sure what's gonna happen.
(04:08):
I think at some point, if things don't get worked out,
I'm assuming maybe a trade of some sort might happen
at the least opportune time, when we least expected.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I look at it like this, oh Joe, considering he's
the best defensive player, and when you look at that
defensive line, who else? Most teams have two guys, yes, yes,
you know, you have Micah and then you have another guy.
Or you look at let's just say, for the sake
of Ark, you look at the Eagles, they have multiple guys.
You look at Kansas City they have Chris Chris Jones
(04:44):
and have Coloftus. You know, they have multiple guys most teams,
although they're not on the same level, but they have.
You look at a hot Smith and you look at Watt,
so most guys have somebody.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
To play off of. It's him. Yeah, he let the
league in sacks, but really no one else besides.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
You know, and brother Sam Huppert just retired.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yes, hurt most of the Yeah, yeah, he was hurt.
And also when I think about it, I look at
the AFC North right from a standpoint and needing defensive players.
It's bad enough we're already bad on defense. Then let's
not make it worse, at.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Least in the city Buffalo, Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
And yeah, I mean, my goodness, like we we need
trade in the in the the dearest dearest way possible
to try to do what we can defensively. So we
can we can. We can start a little better this season.
You know, I know we always talk about the offense.
You know, they always start slow, always out out the gate,
you know, being zero and to or one in one whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
We got to stop somebody though, Yeah, we gotta be
okay you said, I'm saying, but here's the thing. They
have one bad too bad possessions. Their defense can't stop anybody. Now,
all of a sudden, you fourteen points down. Hey, you
gotta lead. Okay, let's just say, for the sake of Barbie,
you have a And we saw this against Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
They have two bad possessions. Now Baltimore has the leader.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
The lead.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, so what how far away are we from from
having a decent defense? Just curious you from your listen,
you know this is this is.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And y'all just cut Pratt. Remember y'all released Pratt?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yes, so wall hold on Pratt with prattp Prapp with
a little back was the mic linebacker.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, he led your team in tackles.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
He did so.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Logan Wilson plays. They drafted somebody. They drafted somebody in
the second round out of South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I was reading yesterday night.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
They must he must be played.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
They see really high on him.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, we're gonna be gonna plug and play then, huh.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, we got to remember. Pratt was like, hey, he
wanted a contract extension. He wanted to be you know,
want to bump and pay. They're like, noah, bro, we
can't bump you and pay. I was reading, now, I
don't know you know, maybe somebody just throwing out numbers.
I think Trey's supposed to make what fifteen, sixteen, seventeen million.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, they're trying to get him to twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I don't think he's looking at list anything that doesn't
start with a three. No, I'm not now I honestly,
because you see, you see he's like, hold on, one
guy making fifty five, another guy making forty, another guy
making thirty, and then y'all want me to come in
at twenty eight, And he sees Miles Garrett. He knows
Michael is about to get something that starts with a four.
(07:18):
Y'all want me to start with a two? Yeah, I
just don't see that.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Not. Let's be fair.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
If he wants to get what he wants, he's not
gonna be able to get it because everything you just
ran off, we just pakee making fifty five, then there's
no room for you to make do you tall? Do
you take a discount? Do you take a discount?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
And no, the question is better question does he miss
the first eight games and then come back to the
last eight games to make sure he gets a credited season,
or does because that's what I would do, because if
you don't come back, they still have your rights. So
I would you know it. That depends on how serious
he is about his money.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Oh, he's serious. He's serious, and this this is the
thing that you can do when they know you the game,
when they know you love the game, and they know
you can't stay away from the game. There was want
to be team first team that teams and team oriented
and be the but when it comes time to play,
this is what this is what happens. Yeah, let's talk
about the Bengals in general. I'm talking about in general.
(08:15):
They will use your love for the game against you
because the bus inside of things will sneak upon you
and bite your nass. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I'm trying to think a guy that Sean Gilbert might
be the only guy that I can remember that missed
the whole season and then he ended up turning around
and getting paid. I think he went to Carolina. I
think it's with Washington and he ended up going to Carolina.
It might be vice versa, but that's what I mean.
I think the thing is to say what I would do.
(08:44):
It's easy to say what because you're not in that situation. Me.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I ain't missing no time.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I understood that that was time I wasn't gonna be
able to get back. And like you said, Oh Joe,
I think the thing is, they know the guys that really.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Everybody don't love the game like we do. Now.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, definitely, so they're gonna hard time up. Well, it's
all we got knowing. Damn well, we might miss a game,
but we ain't missing no half of those seasons, entire season.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
We love it too much. Listen.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
And the funny thing about it is, I love the game,
but I think during my time I was in fortunate situations.
I think where they came to me early twice, right
in the early where I didn't have to deal with
that type of situation. It just to me, it's almost
it's almost a slapping the face a little bit when
you think about it. Yeah, almost a slapping the face.
(09:32):
And we take it personally as players, and I know
they do when situations like this arise. When you understand
what your value is, you understand what the market is,
and then you have a team that's hesitant in giving
you said market value. Listen, one thing about it. I
don't care how many how many players you got got paid.
(09:53):
There's always a way to make it happen depending on
who the players. You do understand that, right.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yes, But what I don't get from the Bengals, Oh Joe,
if you had this problem last year and you didn't
resolve it and during the season or after the season,
what makes you thought the the problem is going to
go away. It's like if you have a disease and
don't talk about it, just because you don't talk about it,
you better go get it, you better treat it. Yeah,
(10:18):
because talking about it, but because not talking about a problem.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Like it's like two people argue, oh Joe, and you
go to bed.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
That issue is not gonna be resolved in the morning
because you didn't talk about it that night. As a
matter of fact, you're gonna give people an opportunity to
build up. They're like this bofo playing with me. He
couldn't address me. They know, so you led over the steaming.
She led over the steaming. You know, you get out
of bed in the morning, you stepping on lips because
the lip poked out to the flow. His lips poked
(10:47):
out to the flow. So I don't understand how the
Bengals thought this situation. And he had another seventeen and
a half sex season and he led the NFL in
sacks and somehow you thought he was nobody.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well, we got a good chance to go.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
You had a good chance to go to the super
Bowl last year or the playoffs last year, and it
didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Guys are not you know.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Teams always want you to think, oh, take big picture. No,
the big picture is me and my family, and that's
the big picture I'm thinking about. I don't know what y'all, Peyton,
because Ojo what they what they tell you, Ojoe when
they release players? You here and I think we're gonna
talk about this a little later. Joah here yea and
Google Kiff said what he's said. They're always thinking about
(11:32):
what is the best interest of the team.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Okay, what is the best interest of the business?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Okay? Players are businesses, Yes, what isn't the best interest
of Trey Hendrickson? Not playing is in the best interest
to Trey Henderson being all unest Now, I'm not telling
the guy what he should or what he shouldn't do,
but this is what we do know. He take his
ass out there on that field, and he gets anything
that happens, Lord forbid, it does not.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yes, sir, he ain't getting no pay day.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I know that, Yes, sir, Yeah, listen. I think is
tough one tough spot. The Bengals organization is in a
tough spot. Trey Hendrickson is in a tough spot. Joe
Burrow saying that it's a distraction to those that are
in an organization, those that are that are on the team,
those that are at mini camp right now. I think
for the fans it's a distraction and it's just like
overwhelming and they're like, God, damn, here we go again.
(12:21):
But again fans. As players, you have to be able
to separate the personal side of being a football player
in the business side. I think if you can, you
can compartmentalize and be able to separate the two and
understand that it is business first. It's not personal. It's
nothing against you as a player, but this is the
way they conduct themselves, not just with the Bengals, but
(12:43):
with every team in general. I think you'll be all right.
I want Tray to get his money though, you know,
even if it's not with us, I would love to
see him back with the Bengals, but I would also
love to see him get what deserves somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Because I think the thing is, Oh Joe. What happens
is that Joe would like to talk about what a
great deal practice they're had, Yes, sir, but the media
is asking him about Trade's contract. They're asking him about
the rookies contract, who we're going to talk about in
just a second. So he's like, bro, I'm trying to say, hey,
T and I had a great comment, had a great
work today. We got some great work to done today.
(13:17):
We got better today. But you're asking me about a
player that's not here. I don't know what you want
me to say. Joe is being the leader that he is. Yeah,
we love to have Trade, and I think he's done
enough to he's earned, not deserve, he's.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Earned a raise and pay because guess what.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Let's just say, for the sake of argument, Oh Joe,
instead of having seventeen and a half sacks, he had
five and a half sacks. Do you think they would
keep him on the contract that he has now? Absolutely not,
I answer it for you know they wouldn't. So now
he outperformed the contract, you don't want to reward him,
but if he underperformed, you will punish him. Yes, and
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that's the way it is, and hopefully fans like see
that and I understand. Look, I understand you weren't running
a business, but guys normally played better guy's team after
being in you know, a business you're working, perform better
when they're compensated.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, Oh and you're happy, yes, which is which is
one of the reasons. Why do you think they always
go ahead and pay the quarterback. Yes, they always paid
the quarterback. You get your quarterback out the way, so
he had nothing to worry about. He's in the right
state of mind and you can focus on the job
at hand, no distractions and again, not being able to
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get your money after putting in all the work, you know,
the sacrifice, the sweat, the injuries.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
He led. I mean there, I mean he led the
entire league in sacks. He did that, Yeah he I
mean he had seventeen and a half. He was I mean,
he was in the running for defensive Player of the Year.
And he's probably thinking to himself, what the hell do
I have to do to get rewarded for my hard work.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah, that's crazy, it's unfortunate. And listen, this is this
happens all the time. Yeah sure, Well, it happens all
the time, Ye happens. It's his turn, his turn.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Bengals rookie Shamar Stewart is still waiting to take his
first practice rep in the NFL. He also had some
words for the Bengals today in comparing his situation with trades.
Let's take a listen to what he had to say.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Like some people say, we all greed, trade will be right, right,
but technically still one percent wrong for being under contract.
So and in my case, I'm one hundred percent right,
so it should be a no brainer. And in trades case,
I think it should be a no brainer too. I mean,
he led seventeen and a half second two for two years
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back the back.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
If I was the gym or I was the owner,
take all my money.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
But I guess they don't offer it like that, but
you know they do not. Hey, listen, hey, it's easy
to say take all my money when you not the gym,
and oh yes, money don't easy to say that, but listen,
you learn quick. You learn, you learn quick, and you
learn fast. Rookie will understand that this is a business
and it's running a little different. It's running little different.
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Now he's had seventeen and a half sex back to
back seasons, right, and then they're they're hesitating, they're hesitant
on paying them. So in situations like this, this will
tell you how they really feel about you. Yes, depending
on the player is, depending on who the player is
and how much they value you and what you bring
to the table. Oh man, they're not even playing when
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it's time to get paid. I don't care who I
don't care who you are.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Let's say this is what Mike Florio for Pro Football
Focus right this Football Talk PFT. He said, the Bengals
have decided to wedge a new clause into Stuart's deal.
The clause would turn a default in any given year
into a void of all remaining guarantees, and prior Bengals
contracts avoid wiped out only the guarantees for the year
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in which the default occurred. Stuart refuses to be the
be guinea pig for the new term, and the Bengals
refused to blink. As a result, Stuart will be less
prepared for training camp than he would have been.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
So in other word, a lot of times they put
a clause in there.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Oh Joe, it's said if you do something wrong, the
money you were supposed to get in that year, right
is wiped away. Now they put the new clause in
there say if you do something wrong, any guaranteed that
you're supposed to get in twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven,
twenty eight. That's gone too. Oh no, hell no.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I understand. To me, honestly, I don't. I don't like
the verbiage. But again I would. I would have it
on a year to year basis and this year if
you mess up, you know, and there was contact der
MISSISSI the team or sess that is that serious where
we need to recoup some of that money back. That's
guaranteed I see fit to do so. But yes, messing
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up on the board the board pop absolutely not hell
and not over what. But man, that made me curse.
Don't made me curse that I just got seen the
other day.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Don't do that.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Don't do that. But I know they're trying to set
a president. I'm not sure what president that not with
me not listen outside of don't get in any trouble period.
I don't know if he has a pass, if he
has the past history of doing things wrong, I don't
know for them to actually want to put that clause
in his contract all of a sudden, out the blue
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set a president with this individual. I'm not sure what
his path looks like, that's anything I could think of,
and why they want to do something.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Like that, and no, but it seems to be like
this is something that they're trying to do moving forward
to everybody. Yes, only because the clause would the default
in any given year into a void of all remaining
guaranteed and prior being contracts, a void wiped out only
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guaranteed for which the year the default a courage. So
if he did something in twenty five, okay, we wipe
out the guarantees in twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven,
twenty eight is protected. Now they're saying, if you default
in twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight get
wiped away. Oh hell no, oh Joe, that's the whole
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purpose of guaranteed, if to be able to get to guarantee. Yes.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah, I have a question. Are there any other NFL
teams that practice the same clause in their contracts?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Or we wouldn't We wouldn't know that. Uh, well, there's
some some you have a contract. Let's just say for
the sake of argument, you and the NFL you're a
wide receiver. Or it's like coaches, like a college, like
an NFL coach, I give you you say, I got
three year left on my deal at twelve million dollars
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a year, Yes, sir, I get a new job whatever.
So now it offsets. So what to happen is offset language.
So if I get a job from another team, howver
much that team plays, that I have to pay the
remaining So if I get a deal for nine million
over there, I only have to pay three million over
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here where I left got left at. You know what
I'm saying, right some people right here, there is no
offset language. Jimbo Fisher, Jimbo Fisher got released, he gives
all eighty of that remaining money.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
It was eighty two to be exact, Okay, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
So sometimes they try to put offset language where you
can't double dep. Players can't double dep. So if you
get released and you go sign with another team, they
ain't got nothing to do with you. I want the
money that you owe me, and I'm gonna get the
money they gonna give me that. Don't you worry about
what I got. You just gonna make sure that a
just go ahead and make sure you keep your chicks coming.
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I will be hey, you got you got the wide number,
go and put it in there, direct the posit. So
that's what and some teams do. Some teams will have
offset language. If you get another job, even in TV,
you get released by one network, you go somewhere else.
They just pay the difference, So you got X whatever
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the case may be. So if you get if you
get say five million over here, you only get two
and a half over there.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
You gonna get two and a half.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Hey, hey man, this is this is as much as
people love the beautiful game, they I don't think they
understand the nasty business side of it. No, they don't
nasty business side of it. It can get other, It
can get very ugly. And the fact there is a
reason why when it comes to contracts and negotiations or
or a situations like this is the reason why the
agents go in there are not the players. Because if
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the players go in those rooms and you hear how
owners really feel about you and what they really want
to do, and the language they want to put in
the fire, the five print language that they want to
put in contracts to protect themselves from having to pay
you long term if you mess up. They oh listen,
it was it was some stuff. I don't want to
bring up the past, but it was some stuff in
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in Tea's contract and in Chase's contract that was that
wasn't suitable.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
It wasn't Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
You know, it wasn't right. So if they were, if
they if they were doing it to Tea and Chase,
you know who the meeting potatoes that that offense outside
of Joe, I know they're gonna do it the trade
and they definitely gonna do it to the rookie.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
But it's it's it's business man, it's it's business.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Never personally like, hey, you don't gonna do a I'm
gonna call it Joe Burrow agent. Hey, bro, y'all got
this language in your contract. They do it all the time.
They do it all the time. Nah, bro, you're not finna.
I'm not finna. Be no guinea pig, You're not finnah
sit no press. They were me and then everybody that
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comes after me, they looking at me crazy because I
allowed it to happen, become out of the highest draft
pick the year that they started this foolishness, and I
agree to it.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Now, how can this go though? What if he refuses
to play? What if he refuses to sign the contract
unless they remove that language?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
What happens? That's it. They either have to remove the
language or he has to say that I'm not playing.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Who that can get ugly?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Humm? I hope he did. I hope he got some
good nil money.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
He hadn't spent too much, He hadn't promised his mom
or dad or whomever house.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yet, right, damn? And don't I don't like that for him?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I don't neither. Aaron Rodgers was the latest veteran quarterback
to weigh in on mentoring the next generation. In his case,
he was asked about mentoring Will Howard. He responded, Will's
a good kid. We got to talk a little bit.
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I thought he did a really I thought he did
really well today. He seems pretty bright going through the progressions.
Really well. I'm gonna be with him every single day,
every single meeting. Found myself see next to him today
in the offensive meeting, whether or not it's stick right
next to Will Howard. So I'm gonna help him out
as much as I can, okay, o Joe, Oh yo,
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you know what I gonna lie to, Yo Joe. Let
me tell you it's true short, Oh Joe, I got
middled in college with math. Ain't none of that is stick.
I told you once we got past timetables, me and
math really didn't get along, O Joe, Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
If I couldn't do this like this here, yeah, or
write it down a little scratch paper, yes, final sieck one,
Me and.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Math with it.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Hey, you start getting the fractions and pies.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yeah, it's only one pie. I know that's apple pie,
but that's it. But if he can pie and.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Then start talking about if a train left at four
thirty in the morning and train D LEFTIDT six o'clock
in the afternoon, at what point were there?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Hold hold on, hold on if Johnny, if Johnny had
five apples he gave Amy three. Yeah, but Adam brought
back sixty. Man, If you don't, I'm like, who hold
on my face?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Two trains.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
One leaves at four point thirty am, the other leads
at six pm at one.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Time, but I don't how fast are they going? I
don't know what.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Bet I see, O Joe, I don't know why they
just could do, why they could do twelve times twelve,
why they could do sixty forty nine from sixty is
how But they start doing all the other stuff out
there they go with me, so.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Be a math, Me and math We were not good
and uh, the bath my favorite thing?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Oh sure? Hey, yeah, hey whatever, Hey was funny black.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah. But see when it come to percentage. Okay, you
got this much and you won't get a percentage? Bro?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
How much is that? How much you want? How about
you won't bad?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
You start getting Hey, let's do a round number, because
we start getting seven hundred and seventy six dollars and
I'm getting you getting three and a half percent of that? Fine,
come on, bro, Hey, I got I got, I got
thirty five dollars for you? Okay you thirty five dollars?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
You asking an awful lot.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Bad. I ain't got tired to be doing all that.
You know, you do this and you and you add
point two four or point four. No, man, I ain't
got all that. I got time for that.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
So no, So I get what Aaron is saying mentoring.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
And because everybody processes information differently, Joe, Yeah, me, I
was a visual learner. I need you to see you
put it on the board. Hey Shannon, I want you
to go do this and do that like no, no, no, no,
joy the issue on the board. And once I saw
that's okay, I'm good. Now I'm good. I'm a visual learner.
Don't explain nothing to me, show me. But at the
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end of the day, hey bright, that was funny. At
the end of the day, at the beginning of the day,
or at the middle of the day. Oh Joe, How
well does somebody process information? How well do they retain information?
And then can you spit it out? That's it?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Can you split it out?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Because sometimes some people can read something and have no
earthly idea what the hell they read. Some people can
skim over it and give you a great synopsis of
what it actually saying.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah, everybody processes information different they do is.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Miles Garrett had a simple response today about Aaron Rodgers
joining the AFC North.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I think it's a good opportunity to put him in
the graveyard.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
That's the type of answer you expect from a deep zen.
Oh yeah, for sure, the type of answer you expect
from one of, if not the best des in n
N in the NFL. Listen, you got to deal with
Aaron Rodgers twice a year. Ain't letting them know ahead
of time. You already know what time it is. I'm
not hit a nice about you.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Oh no, no, no, no, no at all.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Actually, I'm trying to I'm trying to add you. I'm
trying to add you to the resume. You know. I
don't know if I've got an opportunity to sack Peyton
Manning or tarm Brady or somebody, but hey, you're the
next best thing I'll take. I might not have an
opportunity to get them, but I can get your ass.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah, most definitely. But they listen, Shit, they asked the
wrong They asked the wrong one.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Pakrapheo and President Mark Murphy had some shame for Joy
Alexander when asked about the recent release. He's been a
great player for US, obviously, elite tallent. Unfortunately just injure
a lot. Unfortunately, that's a big part of the game.
We see that we've been used to playing without him.
Alexander played fourteen games over the last two seasons.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, damn, hey play fourteen games. Listen. Injuries, it's something
you can't avoid. But one thing I know about that
young bull. When he's healthy, when he's on the field
and he's playing man the man in your face, he's
gonna get everything he got any one of the best
that he wanted, the best at it, but it doesn't
get the credit he deserves because he's been injured. I
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can only speak on what I've seen. When I see
him on the field. He gonna talk that trash through
YouTube and back it up the best he can. Him
and Justice Jeffs the matchups. Those matchups were classic. He
wants and he lost some. But either way, I'm tuning
in every time. Who used tolde them together, he gonna
go somewhere. I don't know where you're gonna go.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Three those they understand. They need to understand what they're
getting when he is healthy and do whatever they need
to do to get him on that field and keep
him on there.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
That's the toughest part about it, Ochoe, because being available
is a big part of how good you are. You know, boy,
he's a good worker. When I can get him to
come to work, that is't what the day did right right? Uh?
And I look, he's injured. I think he said he
had a maniscus or something. He had a shoulder injury.
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When you play a skilled position, it's hard to go
out there and play with something wrong with you because
you got a lower extremity. Because that's how where am
I going though, Joe? If I can't all of a sudden,
I can't be sudden all of a sudden, I'm a
dB and I can't raise my arm. How do I
knock down the pass? How do I intercept the past?
Or if I got an injury, bout something with my knee,
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my hips or something ankles? Because guess what only thing
people in the stand seeing, people at home see, man,
y'all you're a game up a touchdown. Man, I'm sorry.
He don't feel off bad because he used to be good.
He doesn't feel off bad. That's what they see. They
don't see Monday to you know, and getting treatment and
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all that stuff. You're not able to practice, you potentially
have to shoot up, you have to take medication. They
don't see any of that. All they see is Alexander
on the back of that pack of jersey, and whether
or not he's making plays or not. It's really that simple.
Did you or didn't you?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Damn that's unfortunate, man.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And I guess they were trying to like come to
a number that was amenable to both parties, excuse me,
and they could just never get there. Maybe he thought
it was too low, they thought it was too high.
And at the end of the day, we've seen teams
and amount of money they won't eat. Because we seen
them eat Aaron Rodgers' contract Green Bay. We've seen the
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Broncos eat Russell Wilson's contract. So there is not a
denomination forty fifty sixty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
They don't care.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
And there's a good chance the balcon probably have to
eat Cousins Summer Cousin's contract.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
So you don't you don't think obviously he's not gonna move, huh.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
No, because I'm sure they're gonna want whoever whoever take
him to pay up. Some stand each other that that
contract and they're like, nah, we just wait for you
to release him and we can get him a minimum Okay, Yeah, damn,
I mean to pay fifty million dollars for a backup.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Hey, that's good money that boy. Can you imagine? Yeah,
back making a fifty.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Million I just I remember when this deal came down
to you, and I was talking about it, said, oh yo,
we sure was.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, I said, listen, I sure thought he was gonna
get at least two years in. I ain't know he
would he would. I didn't know. I didn't know it
would be that soon.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I said, at best case scenario, he gets two. I said,
but oh yo, what if he only gets one and
you got all that guaranteed money? You and a Russell
Wilson situation.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, yeah, and that's it, And that's exactly what happened. Now.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Russell's situation was a little you know, they wanted some
protections and get the guaranteed money. Blah blah blah. Russell's like, nah,
I'm not waving that and not get it. But cousins
Man and I think they still got another ten million
that year they away, cause he got one hundred and ten.
I think he got. He got one hundred signed a
four year, one hundred and eighty million dollar deal, but
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one hundred and ten of it was guaranteed fifty sing
bonus and then sixty over the next two years.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Hey, one thing by brother cousins Man. Listen, God, God
he he God has been good to him great and
his timing his timing has been impeccable every time, and
he better on himself. One thing about it, when you
better on yourself, He's come out on top every single time.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
So how about you got eighty four? He got eighty
four to sign one hundred and eighty four million, not no,
eighty four million forty that's twenty one million dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Huh. No, I was talking about We talked about cousins. Doctor.
I was like, I was, I was like, twenty doll Now,
you're way more than that.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah. And that's the thing though, o Jo, I mean cousin. Now,
Cousin's got like fifty million guaranteed. He got signing bonus
because I think he had one hundred and ten It
was one hundred and eighty for four years, and then
I think he had one hundred and ten guaranteed, maybe
one hundred and fifty guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Whea, Hey, could you imagine because a chap could you imagine?
Just close your eyes real quick and just imagine you
go to sleep at the night and you wake up
in the mornings and it's fifty million in your bank account.
But uncle Saymingon took half of.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
It, o Jo, He got fifty, he got ninety total.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Fully if you think about it, o yo, he's never
had a contract since he became to start in Wahing.
It wasn't guaranteed because I remember he played on he
played on the franchise tag. One year, he played on
the franchise tag. The second year, Minnesota fully guaranteed the deal.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
And then he came back.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
He got another fully guaranteed deal and now what to
call him? Just gave him one hundred million fully guaranteed. Hey,
so he got fifty this year, he got fifty. Last
year he got forty. This year, that's ninety. He got
another T in next year.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Hey, listen, that's god, child man, God don't play by this.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Children, He don't. But when we come to Gaire for
the Mark Murphy to say what he said, you think
that's phairophile.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
You know what, what did you tell me? What did
I tell you? I want owners? You say you wont
you wote the truth? More owners need to start speaking
like this.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
They don't really have an owner. They have a CEO.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
This is the only T that all the tea that
doesn't have ownership, right, yeah, I mean listen, tell us
how you really feel right now, the Bengals are in
this situation right now. I mean, obviously I know there's
no one over there that would do that, But tell
us why you really don't want to pay it? You
know it would be it would be, it would be
a breadth of fresh air if we can get owner
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to speak out, why then't really don't want to do things?
Somebody with Mike Murphy? What Mark Murphy?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Did?
Speaker 1 (36:22):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
We like him, we just don't feel we want to
invest that much money into him. We don't think he's okay.
He got he got seventeen and a half sacks two
years in a row. But if we don't think he
can do it for another year, right, just.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Come out and say it.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
We don't see it as a Michael Parsons or we
don't see him as a Miles Garrett type. He's a
Tier two DEFICI. Come out and say it, because if
it was anybody else, hell, if it was Miles Garrett,
oh you're gonna get your money.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Well it's kind of like I think I think, who
was it?
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Ranch Ricky? I wanted the one of a big contract.
He said, what you hit last year? Son? He said,
I hit three fifty seventeen homers and eighty five RBIs.
He said, what place did we finish in the division?
He said, we finished last. He said, we can finish
that without you. So I guarantee your Cincinnatis having this conversation. Yeah,
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where did we finish within defense with seventy when you
got those seventeen half sacks? You were in defensive Player
of the Year running. Where did we be finished? Where
did we finished defensively? Okay, we can finish that without you.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Yeah, And that's the that's how they're.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Guaranteed they're having those conversations. Yeah, because it should we
you and I thinking, oh, Joe, he should be a
no brainer. The guy got seventeen a half sacks. He
did it one year. He didn't do it just one year.
He did it two years. Yeah, So you're like, okay,
fire gool, But a lot of times what the mistakes?
And sometimes you know you's better to wait. If you
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get Tea, you save yourself probably thirty million dollars if
you sided him last year, If you go ahead and
give see now, if you gave a Trey twenty eight
million last year, he jump on that with both feet. Yeah,
Now he sees where the market is going to market,
is not in the in the in the high twenties,
low thirties, the markets in the forties.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yeah, you see, you know what you see what you
just said the way you've just explained it about the
timing of wins fighting to pay the players, and that's
the difference in brother Harry Roseman and Jeffrey Lewy. Yeah,
the timing and when they decide to play players has
always been impeccable. They get him before it's too high
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they Yeah, they get him at the right time where
it makes sense. And it's almost to a point where
it's team friendly in a sense because you can continue
to build around them.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
And man I wish man I wish more teams did that.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah, I don't give himself up ship.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Uh. We previously spoke about the reports that Terry McLaurin
is frustrated with the lack of progress on a long
term deal. Well, new reports say that scary Terry is
not attending Commander's many camp. All these camps, now, oh Joe,
are mandatory. There are no more voluntary. They're all mandatory.
O Jo.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
How was the situation end? You don't get that money,
don't get his money.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Yeah, I'm gonna tell you how you're gonna get his money.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
How you gonna get it?
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Jayde and Dan will go up, y'all, Hello, who is
it in?
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Jaden?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
I need my number one quarterback. I need my captain.
I'm not sure what you need to do on your end,
but I know what I need on my end. I
need scary Terry to get that money. So I had that.
That that's safety net. So I had that individual to
throw to the same one. Pull up the film from
last year. I don't understand what the problem is. I
don't know what we mulling around for. Get him his money.
(40:00):
Still got two years before I'm up, so we're gonna
be all right.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
No, I'm going yeah this year, next year, after next year,
I'm gonna come see you too. And if I got him,
that increases my value too, because I know I'm gonna
put up big numbers and uh, I see where it's going.
So I'm about I'm trying to get sixty two. Damn,
I'm trying to get hold on. I tried to get Josh.
(40:24):
I'm trying to get Josh Allen number sixty two. Josh
Allen would have signed two years. I'm two years after
Josh Allen. I'm trying to keep the market going. Okay, okay,
how much Josh Allen? How much Josh Allen got full
of guaranteed? I'll tell you what you ain't got to
give me. You ain't got to give me for three hundred,
(40:46):
make it all guaranteed, three hundred Josh Allen got three thirty.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
How much is full of guaranteed? Two fifty?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
He got a quarter billy, he got two fifty full
of guaranteed. Okay, boom, that's me. So six years, three thirty.
I don't really care nothing about that. Tell me how
much if it floods, if it's snow, if it's a
tornado or range stort, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Tell me what I'm gonna be, what I'm gonna get.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
So guess what by that time on Joe two seventy five,
that gonna be going right two seventy five.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Hey, so she destroved on being that in that ballpark too,
then see just.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Strived up there after the season. Absolutely yes, And you
better hold Patrick Mahome, don't do say you know what.
I'm tired all these jokers make it more than me,
give me my true value. He wouldn't do that. Yeah, Pa,
if he won't, you know, I'm saying, he's made it
abundantly clear. He's like, he's doing great with money. They
done great by him, and he's like, look, I'm just
(41:53):
trying to keep this team together as long as I
possibly can keep his money, good players around me, all
lot Tom Brady as I possibly can.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Hey, and plus the money that I make off the
field can sustain.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
My lifestyle, and it makes up for what he's not
gonna make in contracts as opposed that other quarterbacks has
taking a huge lumsum.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Yeah, he's making I think the thing is ojo when
you look at it. My homeboy, he's gonna be like Brady.
Brady's not the is not the highest paid, was not
the highest paid quarterback, even though he played the most years.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
He didn't make the most money.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Aaron Rodgers is at four hundred and eight million, I think,
and then Matthew Staffords at three ninety one. Tom Brady
way way on that. I mean, Tom Brady, listen, don't
feel sorry for me. Made really good money. But Tom,
it became painfully became obvious to everybody the most important
thing was rings. It wasn't money because Tom realized as
(42:50):
a quarterback he was gonna be able to make money.
Now he's making thirty five million or thirty seven million
a year for ten years.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
So he good.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
So he said, now, now look, I give y'all something
to chase, cause y'all can pass me monetarily.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
I want to see the dude that's gonna catch me
with these rains.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Who gonna get eight?
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Who will get seven? Who gonna get six?
Speaker 1 (43:09):
While we talking about it, I'm already there. I'm in
the clubhouse, he says. Look, I've already shot under par
I'm in the clubhouse.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Come catch me.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Dang so.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
God damn tears like, look, bro, I'd have been to
the Pro Bowls out of a thousand yard seasons. I
don't really know what else y'all want me to do.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
I don't know what else I need to do to
show you that I'm worth whatever.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
I say I am.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
So his situation is different. He's gonna get his money.
It's just about being patient and the timing of when
it gets done. Miss Minnie camp to make sure you're
working out before the season, star maybe before training camp.
You don't want to miss another training camp. You don't
want no, Now you don't. You don't do that.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Don't do that.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
And I'm sure that the organization understands you're going in
a different direction. You're going in different directions. You had
a phenomenal season last year. You got things off, you
got things off to a great start. Don't don't f
it up. Don't f it up, don't piss off the fans.
You had a great season NFC championship last year. Let's
(44:19):
keep that momentum and consistency of greatness going forward and
changing that culture.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Wow. Reports are saying coach wide receiver wide receiver coach
Reggae Wayne reggu Wayinge, that is, Reggie Wayne is viewed
as a possible interim head coach if Shane Steichen struggles
to start the season.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Oh, Joe, I like it?
Speaker 1 (44:51):
You don't like it? Now? Here's the thing you know
they're under You know Jim ursay rest is soul mister
passed away a month ago. Three daughters took over. I
think it's oldest, oldest daughter. Although they all have roles,
she is the majority and she makes the decisions because
even if it's a family thing. The NFL wants that
(45:11):
be one boys. They want one person to be able
to talk. And so she if the she's the you know,
the oldest, and I guess he, you know, put it
in a situation where okay, you have a thiss and
it's going to go accordingly. But that'll be very very
interesting because it's one thing that like damn, all of
a sudden, we're thrust into this and we're running a
(45:32):
billion dollar corporation. A multi billion dollar corporation is something
entirely different. When you got a head coach situation in
your first year, that's not something that you know, you've
been on the job for five six years old, Joe,
you you want to kind of understand it, but your
first year, you got to make that decision.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
I mean, listen, they've been around the game. Though they've
been around the game long left and nine for you
are certain decisions that are going to be made that
can be you know, somewhat altering business decisions and business decisions,
and that that is one of them. Listen, I'm not
sure who made the call or who made the decision.
When Jeff Jeff Saturday got the opportunity, Jim Mercy Jim Mersey.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
So again he loved his players. He really closed his players.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
I mean, yeah, So, I mean I think that I
think it would be a great, great opportunity for for Reggie.
He knows the organization, he knows the fan base, he
understands the culture and and and what with not the fans,
but what that organization needs to get any back to
their winning ways.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Yeah. But here's the thing, oh, Joe, you have to understand,
Jim Mercy had a personal relationship with Jeff Saturday. Listen,
They're just even though they're around, they don't have the
same type of relationships. They haven't developed that. It it's
different male female, you know what I'm saying on Joe.
So going out, you know, mister Ertha, going out and
drinking with with with Saturday and some of the guys
(46:58):
is one thing. That's not what they're going to do.
They're not gonna have.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
That same dynamic as their father had. And so that's
what you know.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
I don't wish I don't want Shane stinking. I don't
want him the man to lose his job. But I mean,
this is a situation they're just saying, they're just throwing
stuff up like what if they eat struggles.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Yeah, Shane is gonna be okay. Shane is gonna be okay.
Him losing in job is all predicated on how the
quarterback play is. Yes, listen, the quarterback players. That's all
it comes down to. That's that's not even want to
call it the elephant in the room, but that's the
goddamn elephant in the room. Well, is a quarterback player
gonna play? Because if the quarterback player is bad, he's
(47:42):
gonna get you fired.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
That's what happens. And sometimes they play just good enough
to get themselves, get the coach fired, and them cut
self cut.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
That's what rich rich used to tell us.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
H Richard Smithew, that special teams coach. He says, Son,
you play just well enough to get me cut and
you fired. So that's gonna be a tough I mean,
I think Houston's gonna be you know, Houston's gonna rebound
even though they wonted division last year. I think they'll
be a little bit better. We would be very interesting
(48:19):
to see how Jacksonville does this year. They got a
new head coach. They got Travis Hunter. We'll see, uh,
Trevor Lartce.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Yeah, he got to come back.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
He got Bryan Thomas Jr.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Trav Yeah, I'm so, I'm excited. Hey that he is
Jackson Jacksonville. Man, what what else? That stadium gonna be rocking. Boy,
that stadium gonna be rocking.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
O Joe Shane Stikin says Anthony Richardson Village visited doctor
neil Ela Trosh in Los Angeles to get a second
opinion on his shoulder. Stikeen says, nothing has changed, and
the plan is you just read to show it for now.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
There's no timetable on his return.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Damn. So you oh yo, if we start a race,
were running, all of a sudden, you catch a cramp
or you get tired, your stomach start to hurt, so
you stop. Yeah, you see what happens.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
So Daniel Jones right now is the starting quarterback for
the absolutely Okay, Daniel Jones isn't answer either, just f yi.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
It all depends on what's the question. Name the quarterback
that went the duke? He's the answer. Well you say
he's not to ask. I just need to know the
question you ask it first.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
Listen, Daniel Jones is not the answer. I don't care
what people say. About answer the Richardson him being heard
he was inconsistent last year. Whatever it may be, damn
je is an answer either, And I'm then that's no
disrespect to him. I'm just being honest. We saw we
saw a large, simple side of what he could do
in New York, in the biggest market. Yes it's market.
(50:11):
What's some decent talent in the riding? You know, I
think from from a supporting cast standpoint, it's a lot
better than any form, Oh.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
For sure, a lot.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
They got Jonathan Taylor in the backfield. Look at those receivers.
They got Peers and and and and and j Yeah, absolutely,
oh yeah, they got some talent over there. Now the
offensive line defense isn't bad.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
If you can it can't get it done here, then
you are the problem. Damn man. And that was damn
O Joe turn around here for Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Picked the wrong time to have this type of injury.
It's like I said that maybe it since A C.
Jordan something like that. He went to uh the Courland,
Joe Clint. They got l A Neil La troc Remember
I was telling you about him, doctor La Trosh.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Why are they we to do it now?
Speaker 3 (51:11):
And not doing it when the season ended.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
I don't know. Did he have surgery then maybe maybe
he's throwing because a lot of times, you know, they
bring extra quarterbacks and O joe because they don't want
the quarterback throwing so much so early, so so soon,
and sometimes they just get dead arms and you know,
gotta you know. I don't know how much he threw
in the off season, you know, because as a picture,
(51:37):
you know, you gotta throw.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
He might he might might be overdoing it.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Man. They're the possibility of that too. We don't know.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
We just.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Two years ago. Yeah, yeah, it's if he's having I
think it says a c joy, isn't it. He had
he had surgery after his rook well, remember he miss
he only played. He only played like three or four
games his rookie year because he got that shoulder and
he had surgery on.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
They're saying that he some sowredness in that throwing shoulder
that he had surgery on.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Lions head coach Dan Campbell wants to have a live
lion on the team's sideline at Ford Field, but the
NFL said hell no, despite on a Sheila Ford hamp.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
Approving it.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Sheila said, had no problem with it, but the league
apparently frowned upon those type of things. You know what,
He'll be a perfect college coach because they let you
have anything. They let you have a Clysdale, They'll let
you have an elephant, a panther. Lsu got, Lsu got
what a falcon fly ISyE? That like at at Albert
Campbell told pardon my, pardon my tape? Oh Joe, I
(52:54):
mean you want to lie on the sideline? Hell? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (52:58):
Should I like that? So listen that all that does?
It gives me another idea. Obviously I'm not playing, but
I could. Can you imagine me playing for Dan Campbell,
you know, back during those days and the lion on
the sideline, and I got it. I get to come
up with a celebration after scoring using the lion, using
our mascot manh many.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
I could see me jumping in the cage. I guess
I can see that line. Tear your ass up in
that cage. NFL says the last thing, The NFL won't
that infant lion mess right to break up out that cage?
Speaker 3 (53:30):
Jojo right, don't know, listen, don't nobody got no part
of that. Whether you got on pads or not. Because
here's the thing people don't realize.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Like you see a line on television and like hey
that but when you see that bofo imp of close?
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah right, four hundred pounds are all muscle.
Speaker 3 (53:51):
Hey, I want to think about it for the people
in the chat that have cats. Right, just think about this.
Think about the people that have cats. And how quick
in ajib your regular home, the Mexican cat is. Now
you take a full how much they were lion that
has that same type of agility and quickness. Just for
some reason, they see twenty three hours a day and
(54:13):
can still jump out. Man, it's dog there. Let us unbelievable. Unbelievable.
And they's so damn lazy.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
Hey, they sleep half the day. They they hunted at night.
You get there, get their little hunt on, get their
little a and just chill there. What a life, bro Nah?
Like I said, in college, you know, college didn't let
anything go. They have goats, and they have rams, and
(54:41):
they have you know, even Colorado and they're gonna have
Ralphe run on the field or uh who is that?
Oklahoma got Boomer schooner Boomer sooner and the little the
little Benny Horsey. Yeah, NFL said, nah, we're good.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
I like it though. That would be dope. That would
be dope if if they get to implement mascots that
were that that reference the teams, but had the real
mascot outside of just.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
Well we gotta we got we got mascot fund to
run on the field every time this court touched down
the horse. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
Yeah, See, every team, I'm saying every team, the Bengals
should have an actual Bengal Tiger. I mean, I think
it would be dope. It would be fun.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
You got your dad, Bye, I'm just being honest.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
What the Cowboys? They do have a cowboy? I mean,
so I've tried to figure out the Giants how they
gonna get a mascot. How thought they're gonna be gonna
be Dad? Are you gonna be?
Speaker 3 (55:34):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (55:36):
The Giants?
Speaker 3 (55:37):
What is the Giants mascot?
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Was the Giant?
Speaker 3 (55:40):
That's it?
Speaker 2 (55:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (55:42):
Okay, I like it.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
I'm just trying to figure out.
Speaker 3 (55:47):
So the Seahawks having a Seahawk, Yeah, the Colts obviously
having a horse. I'm I'd assume the Chiefs, that's easy. Uh,
who else we got Broncos officer? You have the horse.
Speaker 1 (56:03):
We got thunder.
Speaker 3 (56:05):
Okay, Well panthers having a panther, Oh that would be dope.
A black panther coming, Oh that'll be live. I'm trying
to think what a Raven's It's easy to get a guy,
damn raven.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
Yeah, Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 3 (56:19):
Could you image if they had a big bison?
Speaker 1 (56:21):
Oh you wanted to run out and feel like Ralphi?
Speaker 3 (56:23):
Huh yeah, get you a real bison. Many NFL neither.
They might as well, just.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
You know, try some difference. One thing about the NFL,
they do not want to pay no money.
Speaker 3 (56:35):
They make all the money.
Speaker 1 (56:36):
Though I know that's how you keep it. You keep
keep it. You can, you make it and you don't.
You don't spit it away with lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
Yeah, Marvin Harrison Jr. Have been hitting the gym ojo.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
Even Kyler Murray couldn't believe how different Marvin Harrison Jr.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
Look. When asked about this transformation, Kyler said, hell, I
thought it was Ai. Yeah, he yoke up.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
He more than you.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Joe, he got you.
Speaker 3 (57:01):
Nah, we're buy the same side.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
Nah, Oh Joe, he got you. Joe. I'm bigg I'm
bigger at junior.
Speaker 3 (57:06):
I'm bigger than junior. Nah, trust me, man, trust me.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
What y'all think, y'all think, Oh, you're bigger than all
they gotta do.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Look at me, man, look at this this, look at him, No,
look at me, look at this.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
This.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
This is McDonald's man to talking about. Man.
Speaker 1 (57:27):
Yeah, see, he got real good chicken breasts. You know
he probably had some broccoli, cauliflower, maybe a little carrots, salad,
kale salad, a rougle or something like that.
Speaker 3 (57:41):
Mean what you're talking about, man, But it's real boy
talking about.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (57:46):
Hey, I'm a full sea cut like I can't. I
gotta put I gotta put my tea. I gotta get
an egg, a one side, smaller T shirt just to
keephi a chest down.
Speaker 2 (58:00):
You're still a small No, what this is.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
A two X?
Speaker 2 (58:05):
No it ain't. This is a two X from H
and them.
Speaker 3 (58:08):
I can show you.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
Show me eh and m see God dang yo' send
(58:35):
me some uh some shorts that they talk about. These
are two ex what's that? God damn things? Little? Uh,
that's what I'm saying for two eggs?
Speaker 3 (58:45):
They send me them.
Speaker 2 (58:49):
Bad? You get on that reformer.
Speaker 3 (58:52):
Hey, what kind of shorts thing is?
Speaker 2 (58:54):
They're supposed to be ya shorts.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
Oh they're supposed to be small.
Speaker 2 (58:57):
Huh no, they are not for me.
Speaker 3 (59:01):
Nah, you know, but you know, hey, yoga, you suppose
I ain't never did yoga, man, I'm supposed you supposed
to be free?
Speaker 2 (59:06):
You know? Really? How am I free with those little
love tiny ass things?
Speaker 1 (59:11):
You don't want?
Speaker 3 (59:11):
Nothing baggy though?
Speaker 1 (59:13):
Hey I gotta have I'm about to have to have
a junk strap, old bad. Don't you supposed to have
old baggy stuff in yoga? Oh?
Speaker 2 (59:21):
No, you want to be free?
Speaker 1 (59:23):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (59:24):
Nothing, that's free baggy. It's free, not constricted.
Speaker 3 (59:27):
Okay, I got you.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
YOA I don't know. I think you about have miss
sized these.
Speaker 3 (59:35):
Joe cid. Joe sent me something too, man, So we'll
we'll see.
Speaker 1 (59:40):
We'll see it tomorrow, Joe
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