Nightcap Hour 1: Unc APOLOGIZES to Daron Payne after NEW VIDEO of Amon-Ra St. Brown + Texans’ Derek Stingley Jr. joins NIGHTCAP + AJ Brown EXPRESSES UNHAPPINESS + Texas A&M KC Concepcion talks POSSIBLE SEC & CFP Championship

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(03:03):
send him Star Receiver Ksey conception later. But oh Joe,
we got first. We got new video has emerged deron
pain punching Aman Ross Saint Brown. Okay after this video,
we well we're gonna watch. We can't show the video
I'm a firm believer God, y'all know who I am.

(03:25):
I was the strongest, and and and and and what
I thought Deron Pain did was absolutely wrong. Dron Pain
reached out to me today on DM and he was
very very respectful, and I'm not gonna get to the
to the specifics, but but basically he said, O G,
I appreciate you. I love the way you played the game.
Everything that you was able to accomplish, you were great,

(03:46):
he said. But I didn't unprompt just unload on no boy,
And he.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Said he sent me the video.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Since I was the strongest and my my critique of
Deron Pain, let me be the loudest and say, bro,
I'm sorry. I'm sorry for judging you without knowing all
the facts, because all I know is what was shown.
Arm and Ross Saint Brown absolutely hit this man unprompted.

(04:15):
They were in a little shoving back and forth, and
then he got a little quick win in on shoe.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
You know how we do it, a little thing, he
unclettle chicken wing.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yes, Javon Kidlaw, I owe you an apology too, because you.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Said he did hit Duran Pain.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
First, and we didn't. I didn't believe you, So I
want to apologize to you, but the biggest apology goes
to Durran Pain. And I'm glad you did it because
like my grandma used to say, I might not break
I might not stop you, but I damn sure break
your habit. I guarantee you. Arman Ross Saint Brown, was
dad ass wrong, Duran Pain. You should have see you

(04:54):
don't get to do something to somebody and didn't talk
about that was an old reaction.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Keep your hands to your fell you said. He told me.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Now, this is what Ama ros Saint Brown said Sunday
and Monday before the video surface and say, yeah, he
hit it because now he don't have a leg to
stand on.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Ojo and Joe. He said, you know, back and forth.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
He didn't say nothing too crazy, but he never mentioned
the part that he hit Duran Pain in the face first.
That never came out of his mouth. Duran Pain, I'm sorry, bro,
I am so sorry. As a man, I'm never and
I've told you guys, y'all heard me say this on Undisputed.
I'm never gonna be too big to say I'm sorry.

(05:36):
I'm never gonna be too prideful. I'm never gonna be
too wealthy. I'm never gonna be anything where I can't
say I'm sorry. I was wrong, Duran paid, I was wrong, Yeah,
you should, you should. I wish you had knocked his
ass out.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Oh whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa wa he keep.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Your hands, keep your hands to yourself, O Joe. Your
grandma told you that. Your mom told you that, Joe.
I know you heard it because you from Alter. You
from the South, Miami like the South, like we look
at like, we look at you like we look at Alabama, Tennessee,
Mississippi or Argon all those state Go ahead, Ojo.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
I understand you're supposed to keep your hand to yourself.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
I understand, yes, So what so what what before you
go with Joe?

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Can I ask the NFL what punishment are y'all gonna
live against arm and Ross Saint Brown?

Speaker 2 (06:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
I don't know, but listen, you know the rules.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
You know the rules, and they talk about it in
meetings before season starts, about getting angry. They always see
the second person that throws a punch. They always see
the second person that shoves every time.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
So I'm a rock Brown.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Is playing a game within the game understanding, Well, hell
on I'm a chicken weaning.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
I'm a chicken weaning, you.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Know, and see if I can get him in trouble
real quick. And it worked, It worked, and he lost
his temple. You know, the game within a game. How
can I get under somebody's skin to get my team
an advantage?

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Now, it was wrong, Yes, it was wrong. It was wrong.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah, I'll be the first to say it. But you
know it's it's it's trick. It's tricks in the trade.
Now you say you should have knocked him out. Now,
I don't think that would have happened because the would
have had to jumped Ron.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Now we don't want that to happen.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Now, they would have You see, he ain't know you said, no,
nobody grab it when he slapped when he slapped five
from him, the official standing right there because oh, your
hair is the thing.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
You're absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Maybe let's just say for the sake of argument, Joe
and Joe the official didn't see it. But just like
they replayed it and saw what Duran Duran Pain did.
I guarantee you they replayed it and saw what Arman
Ross Saint Brown did.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Hey, so did they did they find to suspend Durran pain.
They suspended it for one game without pay. Uh huh.
So they so now that they go back and look
at the tape, what's gonna happen. I'm on Saint Brown.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
I don't know, but something of fine should be levied.
Keep your hands and your feet to yourself. If you
blocking me, I get that, you paycake me and step
in my chest, I get that. But keep your hands
to yourself, especially on that football field, because I can
do anything I want to and it's not a crime.

(08:13):
They might suspend me, they might throw a penalty, but
it's not a crime. Keep your hands to yourself. I
don't know what possessed him to do what he did.
That's a grown man. I don't know if de Ron
Payne have a wife. I don't know if he has
kids or anything. But keep your My grandma used to
always say, boy, keep your hands and your feet to yourself.
She say, boy, if somebody put their hands or their

(08:35):
feet on him, you do everything you can to try
to break them.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Hey, you heard what you just said, right? Hey, hey, Joe,
I told you that story. I told you that story.
Were Ray knocked mehemet off, and hey, hey, were you laughing? Joe, Joe,
while I was in the locker room looking for rape
why and we weren't even playing at home, we were
playing it.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
That was two weeks later. You was unconscious. You don't
even remember. Look for two weeks later, y'all was playing
the Bills. Ray played for the Raider.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
What sugar?

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Hey, hey, hey, I was a little bit sugar after
that game.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
I'm telling you, like, hold on, Joe, I will upset, right,
And I'm thinking to myself, hold on that. Me and
Ray we prayed before the game. We go over a
script before every game, whether we're playing each other or not.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
You know, we like this your Yeah, we just said
that prayer before the game, and we get in the game.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
We get in the game, and now you act like
you don't know me.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
But we prayed.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
He just try to knock my hammet off. Hold on,
my hammet went.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Flying by thirty yards, Joe, I said, he look, Joe,
you know in between them lines, ain't no friend.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah, he probably prayed, He don't, he don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
He don't really knock you knock you out out, hey,
But you gotta realize the guys defensive players go to
a different place, man.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, Hey, I.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Wasn't in a different place after the game because I
was in your locker room. Security had want long ago. Yeah,
Hey Joe, Joe, they had to come get me out
of the locker room.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Joe.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
You hit me, well, you know, but you don't do
nothing like that.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
But if if we do, Joe, you can't sit there
and say a prayer with me. We can't read the scripture,
and you go out there and try to kill me
on the field.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Do that now?

Speaker 2 (10:22):
He was saying, Lord, forgive me what I'm about to
do to Joe.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Lord.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
I know I've come a long way and I'm trying
to do better in my life.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
But any sins that I commit on this field today,
please forgive them, hey, Joe.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
And the funny thing about it, Joe, is when when
people ask me who is your favorite team to go against, it.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Was always the race.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
It was.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
It was always the Ravens and the Steelers, Joe. Because
one thing about it, I call it a two chin
strap game.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Joe.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
You had that you got. You had to bring two
tin strap to that goddamn game, Joey.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
And you had to get some sleeping night for that game.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
And if Joey was hell, it was hell, and I
am I enjoyed it because you had no choice but
the raising level of play.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
You had no for the raising level play.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
And then you got my crazy ass who talked shit
during the week and give everybody bullety board material on purpose,
you know. So, I mean there was some of the
some of the some of the joyous time for me
during them days.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Man.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
I loved it, Man, I loved it. I loved Gray Grey,
I mean still to this day. Man. Just being able
to being able to see and stay in contact.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
That's why I like social media so much.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Most of the time, Like you know, back in your days,
you kind of lose touch with everybody unless you go
to a certain event.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
You don't.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
They make it so much easy, Joe, Man, it just
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
So, I don't know if Duran paint Duran. I don't
know if you're watching this, but I hope you get this.
I hope you hear it for yourself. But if somebody,
if you don't hear it for yourself, hopefully someone close
to your family, friend or loved one gets you this
and let them and tell you Shannon Sharp did and
it did indeed apologize because you were not wrong.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
You were wrong for getting caught.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
You wasn't wrong for what you did because everybody keep
the hand You've regrown out here. Ain't nobody until I
to my knowledge, arm and Ross Saint Brown ain't got
no kids any damn sure, ain't got no kids. Thirty
thirty one years of age. Keep your hands to yourself.
Treated like the zoo with what they tell you, Oh Joe,
when you go to the zoo, in your hands.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Hold on animy's them. Don't don't test nothing, I tell him, matter.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Of fact, unless you catch in the past or blockie
keeping damn hands in your pocket, give me a little
fan the mother with your hand warmos. You won't because
I'm telling you he did right, oh Joe. But see
the problem that I have is that he lied, and
he had everybody believing that he did absolutely nothing until

(12:48):
he got caught. And then to I think it was today,
he's like, yeah, I kind of nudged it. It don't matter.
You don't get hold on. You step on my foot.
I say, oh, I ain't even really step on your foot.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Down hard. You don't get to tell me how hard
you stepped on my foot. That's my foot. These he
made for me.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
To walk on not you to walk on him.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, Duran Pay, I'm sorry. Javon ken Long.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
I'm sorry because you also came out and said that
he did hit him first, And I said, man, that
man ain't hit that man first. Oh your saying, oh yo,
what likelihood of a wide receiver going around slug and
he did it.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
It don't matter how hard it was.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
It was the mere fact that you did something that
you didn't have no business doing. And then he knocked
fine from you and you're talking about oh you know it. No, no, Duran,
I'm sorry, and it should give you your money back.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeh.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
But I tell you, I guarantee you, I bet he
won't hit another d lineman in the face.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
What you want to bet o, Joe?

Speaker 3 (13:44):
I don't know. I don't know, Okay.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
One thing about his receivers were the we're the most
dominant position on the field.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
You know, whether we got the ball in the hands
or not. Here you go, don't I don't know. If
I don't know if anybody.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Saying a lesson with a consequence of action, with our consequences,
there is no lesson learned.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Wait a minute, you know what I'm.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
With our consequences. There is no lesson learned.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, now they they He'm not fire from it. Yeah,
the NFL is gonna come down with something on Saint Brown.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
No, they not. Man, Listen, listen the NFL.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
The NFL is already handicapped that the NFL has already
handicapped the game a lot. They've already taken some of
the words, some stories, some of the character, you know,
some of the character away from the game and and
what made it, what made it fun, what made it exciting.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Now, before I keep going, I need you to give
me that line one more time.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Actions without consequences, there is no lesson learned.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Joe, I'm gonna use that one.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Ron Payne, you did right. You should have hit him
so hard on the top his head. He peep out
of his real then thought he was in jail.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Hey, you hear right? I ain't getting you know more
I do for a minute.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Hey, hey, bring that back one more time, like a.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
DJ, I said, d Ryan Payne should have hit him
so hard on the top of his head. He peep
out of his ribs and thank he in jail. But
you got it though. Yeah, Yeah, I might not stop
that act, but I bet I break you the habit.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Okay, he doesn't drop two gems early, but the show
just started.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Hold on, oy, Ojoe, he got a bunder that. He
got abundan that helm into when he when he did
you see how far he swung back? Yes, sir, he
swung back from Prince George. Yeah, he got up under that.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
That's what Joe.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
There wasn't the one of the more cartoon slaps. You
want to sat the cartoon? Yeah, and he was pissed off.
He couldn't. He couldn't help it. Absolutely absolutely, so, I
don't have any problems. After seeing the video, after having
him explain what happened, and he said, O G, I

(16:12):
ain't just I ain't just swing on, old boy. He
did what he did. Send me the video. I tapped
on it looking at it. They little hand fighting and
then he tried to get a quick win.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
He in what hey, little chicken man. I know what
he talked about. I used to I used to do
it too.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, we're good to go. We got a very special
guest joining us. We got Texans All World cornerback man.
He had an unbelievable one handed interception that really started
to come back. They came out came back from nineteen
down in the fourth quarter to win the ball game
against the Jacksonville Jaguars, a Division opponent. Harry is a

(16:53):
Pro bowler all Pro three picks this season, including one
against Trevor Lawrence. Harry is Derek Stingley Junior sting what's
going on, bron.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Man, Thank you for joining us, man, We really really
appreciate it. Go ahead on joke.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
What's good.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
Is good?

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (17:13):
I like that energy. I like that energy. I see
you in the off season.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, bro, watching you play, and I think
the thing is about any great corner. The one thing
that they all have is patient. They ain't really biting
that first move. Look, bro, all that head stuff. Let
me ask you a question. What are you looking at?
You looking at his breastplate. You're looking at his hips

(17:36):
because all this head doing all this and all that
right there, and these hips still coming straight at me.
So what when you when you lock in and you're
playing press coverage, what are you watching?

Speaker 5 (17:46):
I'm looking more at the like mid thigh, the back leg.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Okay to like I started low.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
So then when your eyes go up a little bit,
ron hips and try to stay in that range right there.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, how did you How did you learn to be patient?

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Because a lot of times, you know, these receivers are
really good at round running, getting in and out of breaks.
And I think the thing is that you can't be overreactive,
always biting the first move. Now, you know, sometimes they
sometimes they really are running a go and sometimes they're
gonna run, you know, they trying to run you off
and do this comeback or do this dig or do
this over ot.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
So, so how are you playing?

Speaker 1 (18:23):
I mean, obviously you study tape, you see formation, You're like, Okay,
you think y'all slip, y'all think y'all got a three
by one.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
You think you're gonna fool me with this click out here?

Speaker 5 (18:32):
Yeah, I mean it's really because I mean I'm also fast,
you know what. I feel like people don't think that
that I'm fast.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
But like I don't they don't think you're faso.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
But I can run with pretty much anybody. So knowing
that in my mind, like you're not gonna run away
from it, So I played like low Hill most of
the time I can. And we get down the field
of quarterback. You know, all quarterbacks don't throw accurate beat passes.
So you know, I can look back at a certain

(19:02):
time knowing that the ball sometimes will be underthrown or
inside or something like that. Then it's just make a
playoff of that.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
And you know you ain't gonna have much time to
throw it.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Y'all got those two edge guys coming off the edge,
so you like, hey, I ain't got to I ain't
got to come along.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
Yeah, And that's every snap like they they and it's
not even just them, like it's the whole, like the
interior like they you got rankings. You got those guys
they pushing out the middle, and then you got the
two on the outside and they all rotate, so like
we got three people deep in every position on the
D line.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
So every snap, but you want, you wanted a few obviously,
I'm I'm an enthusiast when it comes to you know,
some of the better dB just dB play in general,
you know, and and and being able to watch y'all
and then study a game and study how you guys play.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
You have tremendous patients.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
You have tremendous patients similar to to to like the
real reeves in a sense, you're very good and bump
and run up watching film. You can tell you watch
film a lot, and you understand the tendencies and and
and what's coming and what's not. And your ball skills
is second or none. Your ball skills is second or
none because you're one of the few few dbs that
when when the ball is in the air, you actually

(20:15):
look back for it and you don't panic.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Most of the time.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
You you already know most of the time everybody always
panic once the ball in the air.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
And what's the first thing you do? You pull your
tug and you get a flag throw. But your ball skills, man,
is elite.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
You know.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
I haven't had a chance to give you your flowers,
but just now I got a chance to. But you
wanted the best. You know, we talk about top two. Uh,
you right up there. So it depends on who you
who you like based on preferences.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
And you and brother brother Pete two died.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
In and I appreciate you, man, I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
A d steam.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
What's up, bro?

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Hey, tell me some what have you learned from you know,
your father, your grandfather, coaching and mentorship.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
You know, as you came into this league, what what
what have they charged you? Kind of growing up?

Speaker 5 (21:03):
Well, my dad, so you know, he well, he coached
in the Arena Football League for a long time. He
played in Arena. Uh and since I was a little kid,
like as far back as I can remember, h, I'm
doing dB drills with like his player and like with
full pass on as a little kid, or or like

(21:25):
running routes against his dvs as a little kid, like
double moves or you know whatever like that. So being
in that type of environment, it kind of taught me,
for one, like the brotherhood that goes along with a
with a football team, because one they was, they was
I guess you could say like they was those older

(21:48):
figures that I saw as like superstars. Like it was
just like a like a family environment, right, And so
they taught me brotherhood. And then and then like seeing
them go out there and play on together, knowing that
they was close like off the field on whether that
was dealing with me or you know, doing their own
thing or whatever. And then from my dad like well

(22:12):
and then and then adding on to that, like my
dad he taught me how to deal with like energy
levels on the on the field. So you know, you know,
big talker.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
He tried to get your thing.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
Yeah, you know, like he'll talk and he'll do all
that with me personally, Like if I make a good play,
like you probably won't see me doing anything like like
whether if it's like PPU or something like that, like
I'll just walk off because for when I be tired,
so like I don't do that and the like and something.

(22:49):
If something is too bad, then you know, like it's
on to the next play. And I feel like as
as a defensive player, like that's that's just how you
got to live life. And it's really like that for
offense too, like like a receiver tight end, like like
you dropped the.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Ball, like drop a pass, you got to move on
to that, like you.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
Can't think about it because then you start thinking about
pitching the football, you're gonna keep on dropping the rest
of them. Oh you know, like stuff like that, like
just regulating the emotions and you know, still playing with
a passion and being fierced with it. But everybody don't
need to know that, Like like you, if you want
to try to play me on the field, I just

(23:28):
show you by just playing the game. Like I don't
I don't need to talk because I don't know how to.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
You don't talk, I said you don't talk to you.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
So if somebody start yeah, but oh yeah, I'm about
I'm about to get this one to day.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
I'm about to get me a hundred today. Got to
get me by a couple of tubs on me.

Speaker 5 (23:44):
I'll probably just look, well because I don't know how
to talk trash talk, so like I'll just look and
I'll either laugh or I'll just be like okay, all right, Like.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Hey, hey, hey Joe, I'm gonna get it out of
I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Get man, what you're doing. So you're about to smell
the older. That's what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Don't worry about hey dcing telling y'all love.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
That's gonna motivate. And he ain't gotta say that. Yeah,
but it's a quiet confidence, bro.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
It's not. It doesn't matter who it is. Like like
your like, I know you say that you will be
able to get me to talk on the field, but
I honestly would look at you crazy, and you're gonna
be like what, like it's something wrong with him?

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Like like why is he not?

Speaker 3 (24:33):
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
I'm gonna give that work. I listen, I'm not gonna
talk on the field. I'm gonna talk during the play.
I'm gonna talk during the route like I'm different.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Thing like I'm different.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Gotta let it know you, we gotta let you know.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Sting Hey, the whole time you got two quiet dudes
versus two talkers.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
That burst that burst out.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Hey a sting Hey, you know that anyway, every time
I catching Paul in me hit with their own thing.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't hey that fact.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
I don't do that, so that on the effect.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
You know, your right, I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
Like you don't. My mind is like this is a
like just I don't know cage or what.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeh. When I tell you what y'all do?

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Do you let when you got the interception, y'all ran
to the end zone. So I give me a touchdown.
I'm calling on my teammate. Come on, let's yo, let's go.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Yeah a stink you know you know who Sting remind
me of to Hunk And that's the way you carry yourself.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
And he's always always even killed.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
No matter what.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
It's really hard to get him out of character. Andre Johnson, Yeah,
exactly the same.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Don't talk. I don't say nothing at all at all.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Who let me ask you a question, who do you
kind of pattern your game after because you I mean
like you kind of built like like Reavers. But I
mean there's Charles Woodson, There's Rod Woodson, there's Time, There's Reavers,
There's Darryl Green, there's a Niels Wims. There's been a
lot of great corners. Like, so did you study feel
when you watch it? Like, Okay, this is the direction
I'm going in, and I think this is what I'm
gonna be at in college, is what I'm gonna be

(26:11):
at the next level.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Who do you kind of patter of your game after?

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Is there any similarities that you see between yourself and
anybody that I mentioned?

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Maybe somebody did, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
Nobody that you mentioned, But I've always it's always been
Chimp Bailey for me or Okay, he is always the
you know, he get the ball, he's locked down, he's interchangeable.
If he need to go play somewhere else, like in
a different positions, he can do it, like just because
he know the know the defenses or no football. Yeah,
age has always been any number twenty four like that. Yeah,

(26:41):
that's he's always been the first.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
So you like you like because I measure corners and
then it's not a knock on the corners that don't.
But I like to see you get frequentlying miles. I
like to see you travel travel. I mean, if you've
got a bad dude and he normally hear the ax,
I'm gonna yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
If he's I'm falling there.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
If he in the slot, I'm gonna follow him there,
if he in the backfield, I'm a linebacker.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Wherever you go.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
Just yeah, I mean, and that that's a that's a
part of it, like like that's a that's a mindset,
Like I just want to cover the best. Like, if
you're allowed to do it, you're allowed to do it.
If you're not allowed to do it, then you know
the people that aren't allowed to do it, I guaranteed
they wish that they could do it. Like, so that's
something that you can't knock somebody for. I don't no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Some people just like they got their defenses and you
play left, he played right, whatever the case. And that's
how it was with Revers and pro Normally Revers and
Crow they stayed cro stayed on one side, restayed on
the other side, and so wherever you went. Sherman and
when they was in Seattle, he was on one side
and Brandon Browner was on the other side.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
So let me ask you a question.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
You got the big contract, and you know what comes
along with big contracts, even more expectations. You've gone to
the Pro Bowl, You've been in all pro What are
the expectations that Sting puts on himself? Damn outside pressure?
What you put on yourself?

Speaker 5 (28:02):
Oh, we're really on myself. Like it's more about like
like technique, Like it's sometimes like like, well, we kind
of mentioned earlier patient. We were talking about patients, right,
so sometimes well and then you also say it like
like kind of falling for the first move or wanting
to react to the first move, like like yes, like

(28:24):
people know, I'm a patient defensive back at the line
of scrimmage, so I'll get harder moves like first steps
thinking that okay, yeah, they're going like you know, it's
just a game within the game. Oh, so I'm harder myself,
like trying to make sure that I'm sticking to to
who I am and controlling controlling the game myself, not

(28:47):
being reacted, but like like you know, like controlling the game.
And then another thing is like, yeah, I got all
the pigs the ball skills whatever. But like I've said
this before, like last year I had however many I had,
like interceptions, I could have had double that same thing
right now I got have however many I have right now,

(29:09):
I should have double that, like And those are the
type of things that bove me because I know my
poups is sitting in the stands somewhere it's just like mad,
like browning or something, and I can feel them like
like just being mad at me. So but I'm also
mad too, so you know, like those those are the
main things for me because you know, like I know

(29:30):
how to catch a football, so like why am I
not catching the pass on this or or that? Or
why is this person getting like an inch of separation
when when they're not supposed to like like you know,
like stuff like that like normal. I mean I feel
like that's normal, like football stuff whatever.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Thing.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Let me ask you this, do you think we're gonna
see somebody Dick Knight train Lane his rookie season he
had I think in nineteen eighty left the Haze.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Had thirteen picks. If we haven't seen anybody, we've seen
a ten you saw we just saw.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
He had eleven.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Did did Yeah, he had ten, and.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
We've seen a lot of Team Champ Bailey one year
had teen, but we really haven't seen somebody get that
twelve thirteen to really challenge that fourteen. We do have
an extra game now, and I think train got here
if they haven't having twelve games, I think, if I'm
not mistaken, could have been. I think it was a
twelve games. M who did kicks had eleven.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Do you think we'll see somebody ever get fifteen picks
in the season. I mean you could. You could got.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
Like, let's say, what's his name, some Paul he played
for the Washington for Yeah, he had four to one game,
So like I feel like somebody, yeah, somebody or this
was either last year or two years ago, Darius Slayton
going against Justin Jefferson and I think had two or yeah,

(31:01):
I think he had two, but he could have had
like six that games. So like those type of games
where you just catch all the ones you're supposed to catch,
just play like your normal game, like you know, you
get one every nine and then whatever. Then I think
it's possible.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
But if you I think it's gonna probably come from
it's probably gonna come from a safety somebody that's roaming.
But you're right because normally they targeted. But once he
start catching him, they start going away from you.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
But you know you covering, you're covering in the best receiver,
Like they gotta throw them off.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
They're gonna feed him now. But then that then they're
gonna start.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
They're gonna start stacking him, start running you, to start
running you off picks and everything and do it all
that other stuff. Try to run a bunch of shallow
cross then they gonna whip you. They're gonna start him
in hard, do sorrow, do everything to try to get.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
You off his tail.

Speaker 5 (31:50):
Still opportunities of like like regardless, they're gonna be that
all this, whether they try to hide the receiver or not,
like if you're on on them. So that's your opportunity
right there, right now.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Look, we know there only takes seven teams to the playoffs.
Right now, you guys are four and five and your
third in your own and your third in your own division.
You lost a couple of games that you look at,
I mean, I'm sure you when you went back and
watch the film, like that team shouldn't beat us, That
team should not have beat us.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
What are you guys gonna do. You're four to nine,
four and five with eight games to play.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
What do you guys need to do to position you
self yourself to make sure if you're not challenging for
the division, you get one of those remaining three playoff spots.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
Well, I mean, you know, going into every week, you
wash away the week before and you don't look past
the week that you're on. But one of the things
that my position coach Dino or he always said, just
just do your do your job, like, do take care
of what you gotta take care of, and then like

(32:53):
don't go out there chasing plays, don't go out there
like like just doing your own thing, like just do
what she's supposed to do. And then if everybody do that,
then you know the result of be what you have
wanted to be. All So I think everybody just got
to do that. And that's that's what every sport, that's
what every job, that's with life, that's what everything. Just

(33:15):
do what you're supposed to do and then you know
the results.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Still, it comes where you're gonna get some opportunity to
get some picks.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
You got the Titans coming up, you got Calvin ridmy
Buffalo they got a bunch of guys.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
And then the Coats they got Pearson Pittman Junior. And
then you got the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
You got Worthy, and you got Rushie Rice, and you
got Juju, so you're gonna get something. And then you
got the Cardinals Marvin Harrison junr. The Chargers got what
they got, so you got some opportunities. So I'm expecting
we have this conversation again in about about eight weeks.
I'm gonna be looking like, Okay, Stean, I mean, at
last I talked to you, you had three. Now you
see about six or seven we talk again.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
Easy, Yeah, yeah, I mean you know, it is what
it is they got.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
I don't know, No, it is what I do. I
need sick.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
I be sick for seven. I mean, these things stay
locked in. Don't let them, don't let them try to
hang you out here trying to jump on anything. Yeah,
I got one more question. I got I got one
more question.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Most you know, a lot of times, especially when the
player is active, you know they're they're in their prime,
they're playing extremely well, and they play dB. They never
get the opportunity to to give receivers their flowers or
receivers that.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Really not saying beat them, but you got to really
be on your A game.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
You got to dotch your eyes and across your t's
when you're playing against a certain person that really have
you out there thinking, you know, you got to bring
your A game. Is there anybody that comes to mind
for you since you've been in the league where you
just know, okay, when I'm playing so and so, I
got to.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
Be oh, well yeah, since I've been there. Yeah, yeah,
it's a Actually it's a lot of people because with
the NFL, like everybody right right, But I've always said
Garrett Wilson with the with the Jets, like he like
I remember the first time I went against and we
was at some like we was at some high school camp. Uh,

(35:05):
it was an opening or something that Ryan Clark was
actually my my coach.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Oh yeah, Garrett.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
He ran like a slant rock or whatever. And I'm
playing like a deep third or something and the ball
is thrown so high and I'm like twenty yards behind well,
like fifteen twenty yards behind him. I'm thinking the ball
coming right to me. Like he jumps up so high,
Like he jumps up so high, catches the ball just

(35:35):
running and I was looking like yeah, but since I've
been in the league, like yeah, going against I think
I played against him like twice already and he yeah,
I mean he's nice, like he nice. And then but
it's a lot of people. It's so many people. I
can't even demonte Adams always yeah, Tyreee, Mike Evans. Nobody

(35:58):
talked about Mike Edvans for some French reason, like like
he he's Mike Evan's like yeah, but it's it's a
lot of people. I can't think of everybody.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
But yeah, right there, you and your dad, Derek Senior
run cover one e lead tell us about that. What
is cover league?

Speaker 5 (36:17):
So it's really just like a like a dB camp
like a couple of years, Like well we went to
a wife for a couple of years. Get some people
like all throughout the league, whether it's people I played
like in college with or just know like throughout the league,
so they'll go down there. Last year we had a
Puerto Rico Actually we were just talking about it, like

(36:40):
maybe we.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Can get this in Grease next year, like you know,
like just just what about safety, y'all invite y'all invite
fifty to say your safety.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
I mean, hey, look, it don't matter if you want
to come, just know you're gonna work.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
But damn, y'all work at home. Grand Damn, I'm a
grand man.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
You want to come, you're gonna have to work like
it ain't.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
You ain't get you a free trip.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
I thought I was gonna be able to go to
Micky Nose and Sante. You don't get some all them
all some cheep down you got.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
Look, you can work, all right. So the way the
way it's set up is we we normally go out
there for like I think it's like five days or
something or six days. On the first day, travel day,
next day, work day, then you off the next day,
and then you got another work day, then off the
next so you know you can do whatever. Okay, okay, okay, yeah,
when you can do your business is your business. Oh

(37:39):
and then.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
I ain't rid of no couple saints. You don't stay.
They call me graveyard because when I leave the field
and bodys anywhere.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
So you know what I'm saying. All I want you
to do is fundling to him. You ain't stay, Just
bundling to me. Don't you worry about hey, don't even
worry about I got, I got that.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
We gotta say that we got I'll put that soup bone.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
Bring bring four linebackers or two to four linebackers safeties?
Is everybody so come? I like that?

Speaker 2 (38:11):
I like then you gotta look, you gotta look.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
You was on that twenty nineteen national championship team, that
great team, probably the greatest team, one of the greatest
teams ever assembled in college. Arguably one of the greatest team.
You can make a case it's the greatest offensive team.
But what you guys were able to do? You Joe
Joe Burrow with the quarterback in Jeddah, and Chase and
marshl and bad Masson, Clyde Edwards a layer and all
those great offensive line and the DB's like yourself, they

(38:38):
five Brian Kelly, how do you guys get back to
something similar to that with LSU that alums and and
and everybody in Boosters are proud to show up the
Death Valley.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
No, we cutn't somebody.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
Else tonight or honestly, I mean it's it really just
comes down to whoever they bring in whoever it doesn't
it doesn't matter who they bring in, Like as long
is the the players like they really buy into being
at LSU, Like you know, you can you can go
to a certain school, you can, you can be from
here and be from there. But once you get to

(39:15):
where you're at, like you gotta know what the goal
is and mind like like yeah you're at this university,
Yeah you're doing all this and that, but the goal
is should be to get to the next level. So
once everybody come get into tune with that, like and
really break down like how can we be great? Like
That's that's what it's gonna take. So I don't think
it mattered like who who it is or or what

(39:37):
it takes from the I'm just saying from the coaching
standpoint like that that doesn't matter. Like it's the players
buying it to themselves first and then the coach like
just adding on to that.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Because you got great facilities, tremendous fan base, stadium is
electric death Valley at night.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
There's nothing like playing Valley at night.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Man.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
That's Derek Stingley Junior, the great All pro cornerback from
the Houston, Texas DSE things.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Thanks for some time tonight. I appreciate that continued success.
Stay healthy. Look when we talk to you in in January.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
I'm gonna be looking at the stats because I know
you got three NW like, okay, hey, oh Joe, we
got to call him back up?

Speaker 2 (40:19):
You done got seven? Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
I appreciate you all.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Appreciate you man. Congratulations on all the success. Continued success.
We'll see you down the road. Bro alright, Derek Stingle, gentlemen, Uh,
Eagle fans. Every time we say somebody Eagles, we mentioned
A J.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Brown.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Y'all making it up? Oh you just won't click, Oh Joe,
you need to push back against m.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
A J.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Brown agreeing again expressed his unhappiness with the Eagles, this
time while live streaming, playing madding oh Joe, yeah Hello.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
He made his rounds today on social media.

Speaker 6 (41:02):
A J.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Brown double down. We normally don't show full too many
of videos, but here we are.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
It's not just solely about my situation.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
I mean guys like, obviously I don't want to win.

Speaker 7 (41:13):
Too, you know, And I think if we're if we're
really focusing on winning and doing our job, like we
can't just keep slapping the band aid over the defense
doing their job and getting us out of trouber. At
what point we're gonna pick up a slack as an
offense that we're saying we're so great, you know, And
that's what I'm getting that it's not about we're not

(41:34):
winning or I don't care about winning.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
I'll care about his neck stacks.

Speaker 7 (41:37):
No, it's been a week after week sometimes we're not contributing,
we're not doing our job on offense. So you can't
just keep slapping a band aid over there. And if
you expect the win later later in the year, we
think you're gonna go to it at the end of
the year, it's not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
It's not gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
It's not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
You know last year what it was, thank you for
the ring. But it's a new season.

Speaker 7 (41:56):
They adapted, we have to adapt and we have to
continue to like get better and try to find new ways.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
So that's that's where the frustration comes in because it's
not about winning. You guys like I don't want to win. Yes,
I want to help contribute as well, do our thing
on offense as well.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
That's I think that's fair.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Did you feel we're misunderstood and not and not people?

Speaker 7 (42:16):
I don't care if I'm it's understood, like I stand up,
stand up in front of it and falling that short
over and over again.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Like it's about doing what we're supposed to be doing
on offense.

Speaker 7 (42:24):
And if we are really in this bitch for trying
to get better, we gotta do what we gotta do
and not just say always it's about wins.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
As long as we got to win, it's cool.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
No, that ain't really no, you cannot do that, not
in this league. You got to continue to get better.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
We got to do out do it. We have to
do the offense to help the defense, to help the
special team.

Speaker 7 (42:42):
Because after the game, I said all the right answers,
I still made a story, right, you know, and that
in that moment where I'm just talking to my friend
having found my friend, I'm not apologizing for that, like
like I said, because if you have eyes, you can
see that. And so like it's not that I was
throwing anybody on the bust. I'm literally trying to laugh
through this ship. This ship is tough, right, but I'm

(43:04):
trying to make fun of the situation and to try
to get through it.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
So, I mean, you know, it is what it is.
Eagle fans.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Now, if loud of You was talking about all you
try to do is get clicks. All you try to
do is get lights. Oh, y're not pushing back, Eagle
fans at any point in time, y'all want to jump
in the chat and say, oh, we were wrong because
the man told you himself.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Hey, now I want to know one thing. Y'all still
be gonna be there next year.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
No, no, no, no, no, listen, listen, I said, I
said it a long time ago. Now there is no pushback.
But I understand exactly how A. J. Brown feels.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
You look at it. You look at his body language.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
He's upset. He's very upset. And I like what he said,
Like one of the keywords you said, we have to adapt.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
We have to.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Yes, like the wins is one thing, but thank you
for the ring. But in order for us to get back,
everybody's caught on with us. There's film out there, film
out there. There's a reason why don't look the same offensively.
But they are getting the wins. They're getting the wins.
But for us to continue to have that success, we're
gonna have to evolve as an offense. We're gonna have
to adapt to the fact that teams know what to

(44:11):
look for. With the with the Super Bowl champs and
they're playing us a little different. Now, they're playing us
a little different. So we have to evolve as an offense.
And it just hasn't It just hasn't happened. And it's
probably gonna bite you. It's gonna probably gonna bite you
an ass on the back end. Not right now, not
right now because you're squeeze and wins out. But when
it gets to the playoffs, when you're playing better teams.

(44:31):
Mm hmm, it's gonna be it's gonna be different. But
it not allow Saquon Barking to run.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
What do you have to do?

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Jadon Hurst is very capable. He's very capable to be
able to throw the ball, you know. So, I mean,
I I understand. It's frustrations and it's it's coming to
a head.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
It's coming to it. It's like having it's like a
a joe is like having a pimple that that thing
ready to pop.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Hey look oo, y'all know it's different man, when you
got that bulls out on your back, bro, you know
what I mean? Hey, look, you getting everybody's best games,
you know what I mean? They not playing when they
come in there and play Philly. Bro, I'm talking about
everybody in the dot of theay eyes and cross the t.
They know everything that's gonna happen. They're not gonna be playing,
So you're gonna get everybody's best game. And that's the

(45:14):
hardest thing. So I understand, I understand what he's saying,
but he definitely got to know that. Man, they got
the biggest target on their bank. They the champs.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Bro, this who comes with it?

Speaker 1 (45:24):
You're the measuring stick. Yeah, because you go to everybody.
Guess what, no matter where you play home or all way,
you're the super Bowl champs. So what if everybody saying,
O yo, they're measuring themselves to you.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yeah, so they beat you. What are they saying?

Speaker 1 (45:40):
See, I told you that is depending super Bowl champs.
Look at all those great players and we kick their
ass today. There's no reason there's not a team in
this league that we can't beat when we flock in,
when we focus and we play our type of game.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
AJ. Right, I'm not saying AJ is wrong.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
My thing is is that And Nick Sirianna says, well,
I'm kind of getting tired of talking about it, and
he is.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
It's not going away.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Until the office starts to look better and AJ Brown
is involved. Yeah, so you could get tired of talking
about it, But until this office starts to look like
it did O Joe the last half of last year
and in the postseason.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yes, sir, it ain't going away.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
And you know the one thing about it is is
things might change. They might change for the good or
they might change for the bad. I mean the fact
that someone's bringing to to their attention because we can all.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
See it from the outside looking in.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
We can see looking in and we're not really saying
anything and we're looking at AJ Brown crazy because they're
winning the games.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Yeah, because they winning the games.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
But as the season continues to progress, as you get
closer to which in which I consider real football doesn't
start until after Thanksgiving, that's that's that's that's when it's
time to get going. That's when when when teams start
to click and you want that momentum to carry into
the playoffs. I'm hoping things change for the better because
I want A J. Brown to have success. I want
the Eagles to have success, and of course I want

(47:04):
Jaalen Brown to continue to silence all his doubters.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
I I'm sorry, I'm jay Jayleen Hurst.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
Well I think about basketball. Yeah, I'm Jayleen Hurston to
tee to silence all his doubters. So, I mean, I
understand it's frustrations. I've been there as a receiver obviously,
never been on the team of this magnitude that is
coming off of football a Super Bowl win, championship for
that matter. But I do understand the frustrations of wanting
to be a part, an intricate part of the offense.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
You know, I'm not asked for the ball thirty thirty
five times a game. But just make me feel like
you want me, you know, make me feel like you
want me. So, I mean that's pretty much it.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
So I get his frustrations, but I can compartmentalize in
a sense and as fans not not really understanding y'all winning,
y'all are winning.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
How are you fussing when y'all are winning? And I
understand that that was my only thing.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Like I said, oh ya, I'm not saying that he's wrong.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
I'm saying it's going to be hard to get fans
to empathize with the win and winning the game because
then they look at it like you don't really care
about winning, you care more about your stats.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
So this is what I'm saying as a fan.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
If you would care more that you had nine for
two touchdowns and you lost as opposed to have him
five for fifty three, They're like no. And my only
thing was I said, when you make it public like this, yes,
you're gonna get a lot of pushback because at the
end of the day, get the job is to win
the game. So if he had kept it, if he
had went up and talked to Jay Hurts about it,

(48:30):
if he had talked to Sarajanni Patula about it and
just kept it behind closed doors.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
But at some point in time, O Joe, like you said.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Hey, he didn't, Probably he did. Probably did that already. Man,
I'm sure he has probably did it. This started last year,
for sure.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
You saw him reading that year.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
So the fact that nothing has nothing has changed, you know,
now it's gotten to this point because well ship, but
maybe y'all ain't hearing me, Maybe y'all not understanding where
I'm coming from and me wanting to to to contribute
to what we're doing when it comes to some of
those wins that we're getting. Where I'm just I'm not
here I'm not here like goddamn Christmas ornament. So basically

(49:09):
you telling me I'm decoration.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
So I see both sides. I also understand the business
side of the thing too, Joe.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
And now when we talk about, oh, we're still winning
and I got this thirty three million dollar salary and and.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
That not coming receiver, don't don't catch fitt your passes.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Hey, you know that game they played.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
They want to play a different game where you don't
have the you're not contributing the way you used to,
where it seemed like you lost a step because your
numbers is not what they used to be, because your
production is falling.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Well, you told me it was about wins. So now
you don't want to pay me what you're paying me.
You want me to take a pay cut because a
production ain't.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Right, Oh, Joe, it's about wins publicly, it's about production privately.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Oh yeah, absolutely, I.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
Know that your fan don't understand that, which is why
that's where the frustration comes comes from from a player
that's acting, because you already know what they're finna do.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
You absolutely absolutely know he said he tied of running
there and win sprints. Yeah, he get great as you say,
I'm in shape. I don't need to do no cardio
on Sunday. I did cardio Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
I like I said when his first broached up and
looking at his body language, Oh Joe, my thing is, Look,
I don't know it all, but having played the game
and been around guys, the body language tell you. You
hear him talking, he's telling you without actually coming out
and trying to say it. But he's like, I'm giving

(50:40):
you hit. It sounds like it sounds like it sounds
like AJ is unhappy with his rolling this offense, but
y'all want to make it seem like it's about clicks
and light. I'm just basically on my intimate knowledge having
played the game, having been around guys, and I know
the mindset of guys like an Aj Brown. He's a

(51:01):
humble guy, but he worked his ass off and he's like,
let me, you gave me this money for a reason.
Now you got people think I'm right here triggering it
off because my numbers is not reflective of the cap
of salary that you're paying me.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
It's because y'all not doing what you're supposed to be doing.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
The Eagles are still going three and out more often
than any offense in the NFL since twenty fourteen, and
they still winning, and they're still winning of the defense. Look,
the thing is is that the marks of a good
offense on George, What can you get done what you
need to get done when you have to when it
matters most. Yeah, so Joe, when they need a third

(51:43):
and five, they get it. When they need that fourth
to one and they get that touch push, when they
got two guys that in front of the center that's
on the other side of the ball before the center
snapped the ball, they get it.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Their defense is really good.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Now their defense hasn't been as dominant like attacking the quarterback. Still, man, Hey,
Jaylen Phillips is gonna play big dividends.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
You saw did you see him? How violent he? Oh? Joe?
He violent? And that's the one thing when you look
up for a defensive lineman, Joe edge Russia or d tackle?
Is he violent? How violent is he with his hands?
Look at him? Said the edge? Y'all gonn watch him?
How he lock it out? He got he got the
tight end like this.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
Come.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
I don't know what you're going, John Jacob, but you
can't go without me.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Right, Hey, he is a hell of a player, he'
and he played in Fangio's defense, so he knows this defense.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
So there's really not a learning curve. But AJ is
absolutely right because when.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
You look at the Seahawks, if you think you're gonna
hold him to seven points, You look at the Rams
if you think you're gonna hold him to seven points,
that ain't happening.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
If you think you're gonna hold the Lions to seven points,
that ain't happening.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Yeah, because at some point in time, Oh, Joe, you're
gonna have to win a game where you really score.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Thirty five, thirty eight forty points. They're gonna come a time.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Even when we had the two thousand Ravens, there was
a situations where we had to outscore Jacksonville and we
ended up beating them thirty eight thirty five.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Yes, there will come a time. Defense is doing outstanding. Yeah.
But AJ, and my only thing is that I said
this when it first happened on.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Jackson Bad Joe. I wish he could have kept this
private because it's gonna look like it's gonna look like
he cared more about production than wins Man. Everybody like
wins the game. Well, okay, because I'm gonna come in
here with y'all tell me when I ain't got my
fifty five passes for seven hundred yards, I'm gonna say, hey,
but we won.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Yeah, they was walking my ass off for Sakwan.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
That an't work.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Y'all gonna look at me crazy.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
And you know what, comparison is a thief of joy
to Joe and on when you look at what's going
on with the Rams and how they they're off instance,
you look at JSN over there in Seattle with Sam Darnald,
the two is a completely different. I mean in comparing
and comparing the two to the Eagles, it's it's a
thief of joy and it make you sad as a

(54:12):
as a receiver when you look at what Jason is
able to do. What you look at Devanta Adams and
pooking a cop or doing over there, and it's kind
of different because that offense over there and Philly is
not not run like that. So I not totally understand
young bull frustrationus man. And I hope, I hope, I
hope things do get better. I'm not sure they will

(54:33):
because this isn't been going on since last year. It's
tough he's in He's in a tough spot. He's in
a tough spot, and people, especially those are the fans
of the game, probably won't understand it. As a former player,
as a former receiver, as a former elite receiver, just
not know anybody you know definitely understand where he's coming from.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
I do, I do? Can I ask you a question?

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Yes, sir, You and Joe.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
If you're making your money, if stocks and bonds, you're
making millions and millions and stocks and bonds, it's gonna
get hard. It's gonna be hard for somebody that to
get you to invest in real estate. The Eagles say,
we winning and winning, how we dvate and all of
a sudden try to force feed you the ball because
we're having success. Now, if they're not having success, it's easy.

(55:21):
The fans are also going to be on a j
side because they're winning. It's hard to get fans to
come on your side, Joe, with you winning and you're
not getting the numbers that correlates with that winning. Yeah,
we sell me to well all that damn crying. Ain't
nobody care nothing about that? Listen, I say this has

(55:43):
been going on since last year.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
I bet I bet he held it in as long
as he could on the sideline.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Sideline, I'm trying to find things to distract me.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
I'm trying to find and do things in game that
are going to distract the fact that I'm not being reductive.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Cause if I don't read this book, I'm gonna pull
out all this gatorade on the sideline.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Ain't nobody gonna have it's to drink.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
My baby watching. Hey Kennedy, I love you, I love you.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
You should be in bed. I think their school tomorrow.
I'm not mistaken, but I love you, and thank you
for supporting Daddy.

Speaker 6 (56:19):
What up?

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Twin?

Speaker 2 (56:20):
This is crazy.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
I can't believe they're going three and out more than
any offense is twenty fourteen. And they're seven and two. Yeah,
the bast mark of a really really good football team.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Yeah, and getting it done.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Yes. Do y'all think about Oh, y'all, they're seven and
two and they're going out of a high cliff of
three and ours than.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Any offense is twenty fourteen.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
You do realize that we saw about five or six
years of the Jets offense and they're worse than the Jets.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Yeah, oh Cho, that's funny how that work?

Speaker 5 (56:56):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (56:58):
They worse than your Bengals.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
They ended up getting Joe Burrow, ojoy Bingi's got Joe Burrow.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Throw that in there.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
But I had to, I had to.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
I had to give it, you know, Ojo. We like
to do context and perspective mm because optics, you know,
it matters right, you're right, you're right, right, and for
them to have the level of success that they're having
with them man of three and outs. But like I said,
the mark of any great unit can you get done

(57:30):
what you need to get done when you absolutely got
to have it. When they need to convert a third down,
they get it. They had third and twelve, boom picked
it up. They had thirty nine, picked it up, fourth
and one. They get the Jewish push, they pick it up.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
You know what else too?

Speaker 3 (57:45):
It come down to the quarterback too.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
The quarterback is a phenomenal decision maker.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
He does not put the f and ball in harm's way.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
You can't.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
He don't put the ball. He don't put it.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
The decision making is phenomenal. If I gotta check it down,
I'm gona check it down. If it ain't open, I
ain't throwing it. I don't care who mad, I don't
care who get upset.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
I'm not having no turnovers. I'm not putting my team
behind the eight ball.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
You can't when you go three and out.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
The last thing when you have the rate of three
and outs that they have, the last thing you do
on George turning football over. Yeah, that's a recipe, a
great grandma's recipe to get your ass to us. All right,
we got a very special guest joining US Texas saying
them wide receiver Ksey conception forty reception, six hundred and
twenty nine yards, eight tens.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
On the season, k C, how you're doing?

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Hey, Hey, let me hold some al.

Speaker 6 (58:41):
I got ya, got ya?

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Got you?

Speaker 1 (58:44):
So coming into the season, KSE, what were your goal?
What were your what was the team goals? What did
you guys want to accomplish? There's twelve teams in the playoffs? Hey,
the SEC title? So when when when coach Lkoch came
up there and you guys assembled together, what were some
of the goals that he wanted you guys to get.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Done this year?

Speaker 8 (59:00):
He wanted us to be in Atlanta, you know, he
wanted us to be there for the SEC championship, you know,
and then and then and then eventually in Miami.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
So mmm, thus, so far, so good. You just went
down to Miami, hop them.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
You got South Carolina at home, You got Stamford at home,
and everything that you possibly hope for probably gonna come
down to you and Texas on ABC at the at
uh Darryl roy Zalue. But you can't think about that.
You're thinking about South Carolina. Now, what do you guys
need to do? Because you guys have played extremely well.

(59:39):
Your quarterback is probably gonna be in New York as
one of the guys for the Heisman Trophy. Marcel Reid
is playing unbelievable. What is the connection with you guys?
Because hey, bro, you doing it. You're doing your thing.
You don't have you got forty catches, but you got
eight touchdown So once every five time you touched the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Getting to it got you got. So let me ask you.
Let me ask you this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
As I mentioned your quarterback, Marcel Reid, He's a guy
known as a more of a running quarterback. But his
ability this year to throw the football because you, yeah,
you guys running, but he's dropping dives to you and
the other receivers, What have you seen in the growth
and the maturation of him?

Speaker 6 (01:00:29):
Yes, sir, so uh coming in you know, uh, you know, uh,
we all heard that he wasn't a pastor. He wasn't
a pastor.

Speaker 8 (01:00:36):
And then you know, up on my official visit here,
I had came to see him throw and I'm like, dang,
like he can actually throw the ball, you know. But
but you know, they were just letting us know that
you know that they need some more weapons, you know
inside the offense that can creake these big players for them.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
So so we needed.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Hey, what has it been like for you as far
as the season is going so far? Obviously as a receiver,
before every season, we set you know, long term short
term goals, we short long long we set long term
goals as well.

Speaker 6 (01:01:07):
Have have those goal?

Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
Have you met those goals yet? And your expectations that
you had you set out for yourself before the season.

Speaker 8 (01:01:12):
Yesself, you know, I came here to you know, uh,
they win a championship. You know, you know, of course,
you know, uh, we always got our personal goals you
know about the team fus you know, uh, I came,
you know to win a championship and whatever they need
me to do. To do that, I'm gonna get it done.

Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
So let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
You You you kind of remind me of myself because
when I was growing up, when I got anxious, I
speed up my talk and I would have a speech impediment.
I talked with a list I started, I get anxious,
and my grandfather says, well, son, you don't have to
be in a hurr to speak. How have you been
able to how have you been able to like embrace
who you are? Like, Okay, this is who I am.

(01:01:53):
Because if you if you take ownership of your vulnerabilities
and your insecurities, no one can make you feel inferior out.
So how have you been able to embrace who you are?
This is a part of who you are. But you know,
as you go to the next level, you're gonna have
to get better and better and and I'm sure you
will if that's something that you're working on.

Speaker 6 (01:02:11):
So, you know, I've been stuttering all my life.

Speaker 8 (01:02:14):
You know, my dad he stutters also, so you know,
just you know, having conversations with him, you know, and
and seeing how he has dealt with it. And then
you know, being a being a role model or somebody
that these little kids, can you know, look to you know,
if they have a speech impediment or if they have
trouble you know, talking you know, So yeah, that's probably.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Do you do you do you get anxious when you
have to speak publicly or you speak in front of
a crowd, or you talk in front of the team.
Do you get anxious? Yeah, don't call no. I don't
want to give them no pregame beat. I don't want
to give no. I just want to go out here
and do my job.

Speaker 8 (01:02:51):
I just want to go out there and play it. Man,
you feel me like I like, I like talk like
hearing that you feel me. But it's not like no
big old speeches and nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
You you ain't gonna give me no. Also, if I'm
not direct me, if I'm wrong. You love and you
cook a lot for your teammates, So so what what
what's your signature?

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
All right?

Speaker 8 (01:03:17):
So I probably had the guys come over, right, I'll
probably made some salmon on the blackstone, probably make chicken
breast in the blackstone, make yams, maga cheese, probably love right,
come on yeah for me?

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Yeah, you boy, you know I'm gonna too.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
I went to school that I went to I went
to color yeahs before and yeah I got kicked out,
you know, ship right.

Speaker 6 (01:03:44):
I cooked? Yeah for sure, get up, go ahead and cooking.

Speaker 8 (01:03:51):
You know my life, you know, I grew up watch
my father, my mom and my uh auntil you know, Paula,
you know cook and you know, I just you know,
to watch them. And then as I gotten and then
as I have gotten older, you know, I'm on my
own now. So you know, I gotta make my own
meals now, so.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
You can pocketing that stipend, pocketing your money and that
you spending on food. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but listen this
this is a good thing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
This is a lot of people watching, you know, especially
for us fellers. Man, you got that's a great tool.
That's a great tool to have your toolbox, to be
able to cook, you know, not just for yourself. But
you're not you're married, No, no, not you got a lady,
But I got I got somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, but that's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
So look for Valentine Valentine's Day. What you cook for
your lady? M valent Sige's Day?

Speaker 6 (01:04:47):
When I'm cook uh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Yeah, give it, give us a good hold on you
write this down before you.

Speaker 6 (01:04:52):
Go Valentie's Day.

Speaker 5 (01:04:53):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:04:54):
Look, look I'm gonna try.

Speaker 8 (01:04:55):
I love mashed potatoes, you know, with the little uh
steak bikes, you know, with the.

Speaker 6 (01:05:06):
Okay, okay, write that down for me. You hear me,
write that down for Yeah, Okay, I'm on the.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Snow flake, the snow flake steak that that's so buttery
of mels in your mouth, the snow flakes.

Speaker 6 (01:05:20):
And then we go and then we go the meeting.
Well though, you feel me, we're gonna beat them.

Speaker 8 (01:05:23):
Well you didn't, Well, okay, now you talk, Now you talk, okay,
and then we'll probably put a little sparus on the side,
feel me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Yeah, I just want you to know. I just want
you to know, uh hopefully Casey.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Before you you know, you already got your your pleasant
you don't got everything you need to get done before
you feed his meal, because he's going.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
You can a state bikes potatoes.

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
Like that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Yeah, he hit you with the step that last bike.
It's I just tell me something, Uh who you model
your game?

Speaker 5 (01:06:14):
So?

Speaker 6 (01:06:15):
Growing up, you know, I watched a lot of.

Speaker 8 (01:06:18):
You know, I watched a lot of table highlights that
West West Virginia and then now and then now I
would say probably.

Speaker 6 (01:06:27):
Ja mar Chase marches you know his you know, after
after the catch ability.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
So definitely yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
That's because you know what you do, uh, because you're
tremendous once you get the ball in your hand. And
I like watching you in the slot. But I thought
you should have had three touchdown that one day. You
dropped that one pro remember what about it?

Speaker 6 (01:06:57):
I talked myself about that one.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
So what was your what was your personal goals coming
into the season.

Speaker 8 (01:07:06):
So coming into the season, you know, I just I
just wanted to you know, bounce back, you know from
my sophomore year, you know, uh, and just and just
let the world know you know that I'm that, I'm
one of that, I'm one of the best players in
college football.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Absolutely absolutely, Hey, you gotta do me. You got to
talk a little bit more ship. You got to let
him know this me. I'm here, I've arrived, I'm him,
you know. And if you don't want to do it,
I do it for you, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:07:40):
And I say that I got you say let's yes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Yeah, that's because that's what that's what today. You know,
had a speech impediment. Then I started talking and the
more I talked. I was like, yeah, I wanted to
hear exactly what I was saying, and I'll be like you,
you know what I.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Want to do. That's how I got it. That's how
you gotta do. K Man, Casey, hey Man, Congratulations on
the season you're having. Keep it going.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Your couple of games away from your ultimate destiny. One
of your destinations, it's being in Atlanta SEC Championship game.
Stay healthy and hey, once you guys get to Atlanta,
but the SEC Championship game, come back and talk to
us and tell we have to come down that. We're
gonna have to come down Potatos Dams. We got to

(01:08:36):
come down there and see what you see what you yes,
all right, we're gonna see if you cooking like that,
because we're gonna put that. We're gonna and I'm gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
One five with them.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
I would say this is some booth. I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Jordan's case he could say you got the uh tay
saying the wide receiver sporty catching six on twenty five yards,
eight touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Congratulations thus far in the season. Keep it going. Yeah,

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