Nightcap Hour 2: CFP Championship + Jameis Winston QB1 in NY + Jaire Alexander STEPS AWAY from Eagles + Nico Harrison OUT in DALLAS + Klay Thompson BAMBOOZLED by Mavs + Morris Twins VS Jokic Brothers

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You know.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
You know what's funny on when you talk about the
speech impediment thing, It's like, I think, I don't think
I have a speech impediment thing. I think I have
a problem. Is I get anxious? Like when we were talking.
You know, it's how fast I start talking.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
You have a cursing thing?

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Yeah, you know it ain't talking about me, are you right?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Don't I don't think cursion is an issue. I don't
think is that a is there is there a word
for that? If you if you curse a lot when.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
You Yeah, but I tell y'all camera, Okay.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Okay, okay, but hey, I started talking fast on and
then you know what I do. I don't know if
you notice it, I say the same thing twice before
I even start the sentence, Like, I don't know. It's weird.
That's like I get all anxious.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah, uh oh yo. But I'm gonna finally get a start.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Giants Enimy head coach Mike Kafka revealed that Jameis Winston
Hey Russell Wilson will start at quarterback and we eleven
against the Packers with Jackson dart on the sideline man
pass over Russ, who was the start of the season.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Then went the number two. Yes, dark gives hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Russ goes the numbers, He's numbers two still, Yes, jamis
leapfrogsy oh Joe, what what what do you what do
you think?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
What do you think about this?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I think I think the coaches, obviously in the interim
coach is trying to get a spark, a spark out
of the offense. They've seen enough, assuming from Russell Wilson
being the starter when Jackson Dart went in and then
hearing the reaction from the crowd and the offense really
not being able to to get going. They want something new.
They want to see what Jamis Jameis Winston can get

(01:39):
in there and do and see if they can have,
you know, somewhat of a spark. We all know he
is one that's liked by everybody and he can have
flashes of brilliants on the field. The only thing with
Jamis Winston, all we need is a little consistency. Can
we consistency out of you week in and week out
and give us a chance? Listen, I think our playoffs,
their playoff chances are probably out the door, But can

(02:00):
you keep keep keep us, keep our team in head
above water and let us compete, you know, until the
end of the season. Well, I'm sure Jack will come back.
What maybe what in two weeks on?

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Probably so at least, I mean he's gonna be well,
he's out this week. Maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe they missed.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Maybe give him two weeks.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Oh, Joe, because like I said, since the preseason, this
is the fourth time now we know he's been checked
for a concussion. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, Joe.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
Uh So this is jameson first time getting getting action
during the season.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, this is Jamis the first time starting for the Giants.
I think I think he played. He played a little bit.
He played I think one preseason game, he played a
one preseason game, played really well. But like o Jo said,
Jamis problem has always been consistent consistency. Look, he's the
number one pick in the draft. He won the Heisman
Trophy as a freshman, he led his team to a

(02:54):
national championship, so we know he has the talent to play.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
But he's been turnover pro far too much.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
We know we saw last year he threw for almost
five hundred yards, but it was the turnovers that really
that really cost this team of victory. Right, tremendous highs,
incredible lows. So he just has to find a way
to be consistent. And if he can be consistent, that
gives him a chance to be successful, and it also
gives a chance of his team a chance to be successful.

(03:23):
I want to say I'm surprised, but I don't.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
I don't think I am. I don't think I'm surprised
by this move, because.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Hey, I know one thing. I know one thing about
this move. It's gonna be exciting because ain't no telling
what the hell gonna happen anytime dams in. There ain't
no telling. And I can't I can't wait.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Five and now we got the five and five? Yeah,
five tons down five.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
What I was talking about when you left, I said,
if he just if he's just consistent. Oh, Joe, the
man is the number one pick in the draft for
a reason. He won a Heisman Trophy, let a team champion. Yes,
can't turn it over, though, o Jo, You're never gonna
be that great that you could overcome their minor turnovers
that he had.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Remember last year, Ojoe.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
What was that a Thursday night game against the Broncos
he threw for down there five hundred, but it was
the pig six. It was the three turnovers that ended
up undoing the great job that he had done. Remember
Jerry Judy goes back has two hundred and thirty five
yards receiving. He and Jameis was cutting up. Yeah, and
then Jambs they started housing him. Ojo the last guy

(04:34):
we had on kse conception, And there are some people
in the chat kind of making fun of him. They like, man,
let everybody else talk in a situation like that. I
had already gotten briefed that he has a speech impediment
and when he gets nervous or he gets anxious, he stirters, stutters.
So that's why you heard him repeat himself a lot.
But if you notice Ojo when we first started, he

(04:56):
give us one word answers and go yeah. And so
instead of going, let you ask some something, let Joe
ask something.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
I said.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Let me let me get him comfortable, let me get
him relaxed. Once he gets relaxed, he'll slow down, he'll
feel more comfortable. Because right every time he talks, he
thinks people are judging him. So if you think somebody's
judging him, what you're gonna do? I'm not gonna talk
on be reclusive, say one, I'm gonna say as little
as possible, yeah you're right, and then he gonna clam up.

(05:24):
But if you notice, once we got him comfortable, we
started talking about cooking, We started talking about things that
he likes, and me feel comfortable with You see how
open up and you couldn't even tell. So that's why
I kind of took the approach that I took. And
a lot of times, yeah, sometimes I'll let Ocho because
if it's somebody like I know o Cho knows, I'll
let Ocho lead it off. But in this situation, I

(05:46):
just felt instead of going back ping Pong or you know,
tennis and ping Pong's back and forth, I just felt,
let me start it. Let me get him comfortable. Somebody
that had the speech impediment still talks with the liss
and have a heavy cloacal Southern dialect. Let me make
him comfortable, and we can get him comfortable. We can
get him to open up, because it's hard to have
an interview if a guy just continually gives us one

(06:07):
word answers. So that's kind of why they approach that
we took the approach that we took the night with
this gentleman. But he did great. Look forward for him
to coming back. And once we started talking about hey,
he started cooking Valentine's Day, and I just hope you
got done what you need to get done before you
cook that you putting them having potatoes and steak of
the system right to sleep. But uh, I'm not. I

(06:35):
can't say that I'm surprised that Jameis is getting the
start because you know why Russ is not gonna be
there next year. They've already seen what Russ can do.
Let's see if let's see if Jamis can give us
that spark, because that's what Jackson Dark did.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Jackson Dark came in and gave him a spark. O Joe. Yeah, yeah, Now.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Let's see, let's see because they saw Russ come in
and the offense just went in the tank, the defense
went in the tank. Everything just went to hell in
a hand basket. This said, let's see if Jameis can
give us a spark. He like he's done so many
times before. He did it New Orleans for a while,
he did it in Cleveland last year. So let's see
if you can give us a spark, Ojo Eagles quarterback

(07:18):
jah He Alexander has stepped away from football wing retirement.
As according to Diana Rassini, Alexander is twenty eight in
its eighth professional season, and it's first away from the Packers,
the team that drafted him eighteenth out of Louisville in
twenty eighteen. On November first, the Ravens traded Alexander and
excuse me and the twenty twenty seventh seventh round pick

(07:38):
to the Eagles for a twenty twenty six sixth round pick.
Alexander played just two games for Baltimore before being moved,
tallying five tackles. O Joe, What's what's going on? Is?

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Uh? You know, you know the injuries, Is it desire?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
What?

Speaker 3 (07:54):
What do you think combination?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
I'm gonna be honest with you when it comes to
so one that that I that I've always enjoyed watching
like ja a Lexander, understanding what he brings to the
table as as a defender. Obviously, I think injuries have
hampered his career a little bit, and it does, you
can kind of derailed everything. So I don't know what's
going on with him mentally, But It has to be
something of that nature, because getting the opportunity to play

(08:19):
in the NFL and understanding that the NFL stands for
not for long. You only get so much time, you know,
and and each year is so precious as as years
go by. It has to be something going wrong there.
Maybe it maybe, maybe it's personal, whatever it may. Maybe
I don't I don't want to speculate, but if he
needs to step away from the game to get his
mind right, to get his personal issues right, then then

(08:41):
then so be it. I see that fit because that
does come first. Football comes second to whatever you have
going on in your life. So I hope he rectified
that situation, you know, expeditionusly so he can get back
on the field and we can get that same Jay
Alexander we once saw down in Green Bay, because he's
he's a great talent. He's a great talent and a
great fit for he years now, So I hope he.

(09:03):
I hope he comes back at some point and is
able to contribute defensively when those boys make that playoff push.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Well year, what year? What year is this for him?
How many years been? Eight?

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, it's only twenty eight years of age.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
He DB's play a long time, Joe. They can play
a long time.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
If if you gotta.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
The thing is, as you start to get older, it's
a it's a mental grind because you know stuff. I mean,
you know, you know coverages, and you know, you know
how to study film. You understand down in distance, you
understand h position on the field. Uh, you understand you know,
you know, you understand tendencies, uh, route combinations, wide receiver,
how they lined up.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Oh Joe, so you know all of that.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, but boy, this here got to be strong because
they get so monotonous. You hear the same thing. That's
what really you know, for me, that's what you kind
of drove me away, is that the monotony of it.
I just could if maybe if I went to a
different offense and I had to apply myself. But but
he's dealing with a knee injury, and there's Joe.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
You know this.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Oh Jo, you ain't up be an injured. So you know, Joe,
you know this. When you're injured, there ain't nothing like,
there's nothing worse than being injured and trying to go play,
and then you play at a level that people are.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Accustoming you playing at.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Right because if the mind ain't right, the grind can't
be tight, sir, because that's.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
What the NFL, that's what pro sports is. It's a grind.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, and you hear, if you hear Lebron, Lebron don't
ever say anything about his body. He always talks about
his mind. He said. Long as I can keep my
mind sharp, I can play twenty three, twenty four, twenty
five season.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Yeah, because some injuries power up, bro, they pile up,
and you can't. You can't go out there and be
the person who you you know, you really want to
be because of these injuries, these knickknacks that you may have,
and it hinders your game. Man, It hinders your game,
and it takes love away. It takes a love away,
it takes the love and passion away. And that's why

(10:58):
a lot of guys retire earlier and they quit playing.
It's not it's not that they don't like football and
basketballs because the grind has become too much.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Especially if you, oh Joe, if you're an elite player,
see if you're if you're a special teams player or
a player that you know, or you're the fourth corner,
there ain't no expectations. But see once you're here like
a Penny hardaway we got we got penny up here, like, man,
I can't man, I can't do this. Yeah, you can't.

(11:33):
Gion Alexander was an All Pro. He's a pro Bowl player.
Oh Joe, and he got I'm like, oh Jo, something
ain't right. I told you. I say, oh Yo, something
ain't right. You can look at him and tell I'm like, man,
I don't watch this man. I watched this man come
into the league. He's one of the better corners. He
looked like a shall of himself. And when you watch yourself,
if you watch yourself on tape, because sometimes you might

(11:56):
not know it until you because we get a lot
of times on your people like I ain't say that,
I ain't say that. Run the tape.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, oh my goodness, that's me. I said that.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, So you don't see yourself play in real time.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
You got to go back and watch the tape and
you looking like.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
The film don't lie at all. The reason why film
don't lie. The film don't don't know how much money
you make it. It don't know if you're black, if
you white, you went to know the Dame, you went
the Savannah State. That's all it does. It captures what
is being focused on. Man, what and you can't, Man,
I did this, I did that? Let me hit that

(12:41):
rewind button. Yeah, tell me what you want? Did what?

Speaker 3 (12:45):
What?

Speaker 5 (12:45):
What?

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Oh Joe, Joe, what did you say?

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Joe?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
What did you say?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
You did?

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Okay, here, listen, let's watch it.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
It ain't nothing worse.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
It ain't nothing worse than after Game Boy.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
You get it there and coach got that clicker and
he rewinding this same place you and you like, oh
my god, like watching yourself on film bro, and you
look like some slow stir fried Yes, yes, hey, look
I used to be in the game thinking like, well,
I cannot look like tomorrow the thing, Joey.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
We gotta win this game because if we lose this game,
they're gonna show this film. Lord please let us, hey, John,
please make a play. Let us come back, because I
don't want nobody to see the boy I was. I
was terrible. What hey, Sean? What you doing this play?
I think I got it? Nothing nothing, That's what Sean
did on this play. Absolutely totally nothing. That's what Sean did.

(13:43):
But but it's tough. It's tough when You've been a
really good player for a period of time and then
injuries won't allow you to be back. Y. Yeah, people
don't know you're injured. Let me tell you something else
that don't give a damn if you're injured.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
You know what they see.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
They see Alexander on the back of that jersey, They
saw Johnson on the back of that jersey. They saw
your sink on the back of that jersey. They don't
give a damn about you got an ankle or a
toe or knee or hip or back, and give us
a damn about that. You out there, I'm expecting you
to make the same players that I've seen you make
time and time again for the last five ten years.
Make them now, yes, sir, mm absolutely right. Your teammates

(14:26):
have the same expectations, and they put that your teammates
put that pressure on you.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Hey, you're gonna be you gonna ay, you be.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Good to go Sunday, right, damn, dude, this is Tuesday. Hey, Hey,
you know hey, and then the coaches, you know, we're
gonna put the game plan now, we know we relying
on you cause we got you in the game playing.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Y'all ain't have me any game plan for I got her.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Now you got me in the game plan now O yo, yeah,
Now I'm in the game playing.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
But it's tough.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
I've been in Jayard's shoes where I've been injured and
knowing I'm hurt, but all these he is eighty four
and to see sharp on the back of that jersey, yep,
that's what he s. Expectations don't change, oh, Joe is
safe to say a lot of people in Dallas wanted
Nico Harrison out of the Mavericks, generals, including franchise former

(15:19):
majority owner Mark Cuban. Mavericks owner Patrick Dumont reportedly did
not make the decision on his own. Amid the Mavericks
woe for three in eight start to the twenty twenty
five season, Dumont reportedly lent the heir to Cuban to
hear his grievances about the organization from the excerpt from
the Athletic. Cuban, who still owned twenty seven percent of
the team, was known to be frustrated with Harrison for

(15:41):
freezing him out after the sale and not consulting him
on the choice to trade Luca. League sources said he
made his case to Dumont over the last several months
that Harrison was steering the franchise in the wrong direction.
Cuban also reportedly in a closed door meeting with Dumont
and team president Rick Well the day before Hasson was pride.

(16:01):
According to an NBA insider, Mark Stein, O Joe. Yeah,
let me let Joe take this with Joe. What's you're thinking, man,
I think it's a tough situation for Nico. Nico is
a guy who was once a point a time, Ojo.
He was my brand, Jordan's rep. Like if I needed

(16:23):
if I needed anything, that's who I called. So I
know Nico on a real personal level. Uh.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
What he didn't, what he didn't anticipate is obviously Kyrie
getting hurt. Ad getting hurt, which I know Ad got
a history getting hurt. He didn't, I man, he wasn't
thinking that he was Joe.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
So let me get this straight. Your homeboy, he don't
wreck ten cars. You let him get your car. Man.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
I ain't.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
I ain't.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, I think you're right.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
I think he was a little optimistic coming into this season, like, man,
understanding you know the back lads that were getting on
Trey Luca. Like I'm thinking, I bet he thought that
Ad was gonna come in, come into camping and tip
top shape and ready to go. That didn't happen. You
got your two main guys, Kyrie tears Ac. I mean,

(17:12):
this is the worst thing that can happen. This is
yeah thing that can happen. So now you got Luke
out here averaging forty and the mavericks best two players
ain't even on the floor. Correct, and it's it's and considering,
like you said, Kyrie gets hurt.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
AD's hurt is reported. It was reported that Nico was
pushing for Ad to come back from that calf. They're
saying no, because you could tear this Achilles Allah, Kevin Durant.
So there's like, no, no, no, no, Mark Cuban, let
it be known. He's like, look, I wouldn't have traded Luca,

(17:54):
but at least if you're gonna trade him, open it up.
Let's maybe we can get I believe, he says, I
believe we could have got more than what we got,
and they could have. But I got a question.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
I got a question, Joe, why they acting like Nico
was the only one who made this decision.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
He's the fall guy, Joe.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
You know, Hey, listen.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
I know, probably going into this, Nico probably understood his
position in this, you know what I mean. But it's
like everybody just pulling the finger at Nico. Man, that's
a that's an organization. That man ain't just pulled the trick. Yeah,
he ain't just pulling no trigger. And it was like,
you know, let's just trade, let's trade Luca like they

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had to meet with all this.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, what I'm saying had a hundred meetings. You could
have had a hundred meetings. You could have had one
hundred owners, you could have had a hundred GMS. I
don't think anybody makes that call. I don't think anybody
makes that trade. I don't care what the helly do
off the court. I don't care what the helly drinking
after you win a game. I don't care. I don't
care if you three hundred pounds. What do you do
for me when you were on the court, What are

(19:01):
you doing for me? What type of production are you
putting up? Whatever that may be. He's a generational talent.
Talents like of that magnitude come around every so often.
Every so often. I don't think if you put any
regular civilian in a position that even if you don't
know basketball. I don't even know basketball like you and

(19:22):
Joe and I can Luca Luca, and you have me
in a position of power. I ain't even trading him
because I know what he brings to the table. I'm
not you can see it, even if you don't enjoy
the game of basketball. Oh he's different. Oh he gives
me a chance. He just does so now, n he

(19:42):
Goo's the fall guy. He's a fall guy because the
green light has to come from somewhere else. The green
light has to come from somewhere else, and it's a
power player that we don't understand that they do because
I think it's bigger than what it really is. It
just hasn't come out yet. I still think it's bigger
than what it is.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
At the end of the day. Joe, I don't know
if you own any companies, but having here at Shashed Media,
they make suggestions, right, I said, Okay, let's do it.
If it doesn't work, that's on me because they suggested it.
I could have said no. Same thing with CJ, same

(20:22):
thing with Ash. They make suggestions. Okay, I go with it.
Some work, some don't. That's on me because I got
the final say okay, Nko made the suggestion, right, but
the owner had the final say. You don't get to
say see, you can't say yes and means no. Ted

(20:45):
Crewz taught me that. He said, a lot of times
people in Hollywood will say yes but mean no.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
You can't do that. Do you mind? If you don't
want to trade him, you.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Can't say yes, and then he trades him.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
And you like no.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
It doesn't work like that. And if you're in the
leadership position, you the CEO. Yes, you have the co
o os and vps and so forth and so on.
But if they if they make a recommendation and it
doesn't go through, they had to get signed off from you.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
If you signed off on it, you got to own it.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Matter of fact, matter of fact, everything is not gonna work.
Hold on the fact that it was even even recommended.
That's a fireble offense. The fact that it was even recommended,
it was a fire fireble offense. How how are you going?
How is you How do you have your franchise going
in the right direction by going backwards?

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Well, you gotta look at look at it like this.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
If they had Lucas sitting out some games for some
time last year for his camp, and they wanted and
they gave him extra time because they wanted him to
lose some weight throughout that process. None of that was working.
Like he wasn't losing weight. None of that was working.
I think the fact that they see him every day,
talk to him every day, understand his conditions and what

(22:09):
he's going through. I think they just got fed up.
If you just want me to be one hundred, I
think they got fed up. And they didn't think. They
didn't think it was gonna get better.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
They didn't.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
No, they didn't think it was gonna get better. This
is what the owner said in February after the trade.
If you look at the grace in this league people,
you know, I grew up with Jordan Bird, Kobe Shot.
They worked really hard every day with a singular focus.
And if you don't have that, it doesn't work. You
shouldn't be a part of the Mavericks. That's what he said, Hey.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Listen, hold on, hold on, hold on, whoa whoa, hold on,
hold on, hold on you even to get that out
and just going about your business, you ain't gonna get
that out. You're not finna sit here and tell me that.
He watched Jordan and all those names that he just
named and saying they didn't work hard. You understand their
their ability to work hard. The want to is one
of the reasons for the success. So what's the reason

(23:07):
that Luke was able to go out there and do
what he does that doesn't work hard? You don't just
wake up and do what he's doing out the blue.
That comes from actual work, that's hard work. There's a
reason he's still doing it now that he's going He's
not doing what he's doing now because he lost no
goddamn weight.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
What have you?

Speaker 2 (23:27):
What are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (23:29):
I think I think with him, I think what I
will respectfully say, Joe, he probably should have left Shack
off that list, But okay, go ahead. I think I
think by Luca hearing all this, you know, because I'm
sure he's heard all the rumblers and yeah, waitar the
weight losses, I think that obviously gave him a little
fire going into the offseason, which is why he lost

(23:50):
a little weight. And uh, he looks a lot of
slimmer coming into this season, and I think it's obviously
helped him get off to this tremendous start that he's gotten.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Off to Yeah, but you know, being after thirty seven
a game. Yeah, being Hey, the market in LA is
totally different from the market in Dallas. Now, yes, they
ain't putting up with all that. You know, they ain't
got nothing button Mega stars over that.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
And I think the thing is this was a wake
up call for Luca between the shock waves around the
NBA together. You can trade a guy that's been a
five times All NBA selection five times in his first
six years. Ain't nobody untouchable? Yeah, you heard Yanni say it.
Nobody's untouchable. And but this is this is ownership because

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Nico Harrison is not making a move like this.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
It's just it's just like it's just.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Like when you trade, when you trade, when you move
up and you move up of the draft. Oh, Jo,
Let's just say, for the sake of argument, Kansas City,
they were sitting at seventeen.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
They zoom up to ten.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
So that means they gotta they're gonna swap places with
some with Buffalo, and they're gonna give Buffalo there. Next
year they're twenty nineteen or twenty eighteen first round pick. Okay,
you gotta get the ownership. You gotta get Clark Hunt
to sign off on that. Now, you can't. Clark Hunt
can't then say if Mahomes didn't turn out the way
he did, well, you know, no, no, you gave them

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the green light to do this. If you didn't want
to do it, don't do it. Everybody get mad at
general managers and head coaches, and I get it, I understand.
But when you make moves like that, Chicago moving up
one spot and give it up next year's first round
to get Mitchell Trubisky, Dad to go to rest of
sold Virginia McCaskey to get that signed.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Off phone on Joe.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, you don't. You just can't. You just can't make
a move like that. Ain't no general manager. Hell, ain't
even pat Riley. He gotta go to Mickey Arrison. I'm
sure he going to Mick Aerrison and say, look at Mickey, now,
we ain't gonna cost a little chunk of change now,
but we can get Lebron and we can get kids
Chris Bosh. Yeah, but it gonna cost it a little

(25:55):
chunk of change now. Yeah, yeah, Okay, go go go
get it. But you said yes and you meant no,
Well it's too late. There's no returns Now you got
a as is. Mark Cuban said at the time, I

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wouldn't have traded him. Mark Cuban said, if it came
down to me getting the bors of keeping Luca, well,
it's been nice on your baby, but Luke ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
It's common, it's cold.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
I mean, there's really nothing else I can say about it.
I mean the fact that was even recommended recommend who
if I was, If I was, if I was the
owners over there in Dallas, I would would I would
have fired Nego for even recommending trading.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
I'm just being honest.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
You know what you fired.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
I can't say I can't say I disappointed. Yeah, man,
come on, I can't say I can't say you wrong
with that. O.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Joe.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
I just think it's glaring right now because of how
Luke's playing and how.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
The Mavericks half kind of.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
And plus what you call not playing. AD's not playing.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
But like I said, Joe, Joe, Ad, if you really
think about it, AD's had one healthy season that's twenty
twenty when they was in the bubble, and then what
do they get in between that, Joe A five month break? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (27:18):
See, people forget about that. Oh Joe.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
They shut it down in February, so March, April, May June,
they didn't start playing. He got a five month break.
Other than that, it's been it's his back, it's his shoulder,
it's in calf, it's his ankle. So he has a history.

(27:40):
AD's phenomenal. We're not gonna take anyway from him. He's
a seventy fifth anniversary either, one of the seventy five.
He was voted one of the seventy five greatest players
of all time. We used to have the discussion, who
would you rather have Boogey Cousins or Anthony Davis, Just
that's how.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Good Boogey was.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
But he's had an injury history. That is not conjecture,
that's not in youind though, that's not speculation.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
That is fact.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
And you traded a guy even though he had never
been injured, but that one time for a guy.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
That's repeatedly injured, he's he's a repeat offender.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
He's a repeat offender when it comes to injury. So
I'm confused now if you trade him, saying okay, give
me Yon this, Okay, give me add Man, Okay, you
get Shade. I get it now. I don't think any
of those reported they reached out to. I think Yon,
they reached out to Milwaukee, and I think they reached

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out to uh uh Minnesota. No, no, okay, okay, SGA
that okay, okay, See he's not doing that. But a
guy that has an injury history, and I think a
d when he's healthy, he's one of the ten best
players in the NBA. He could defend, he a he

(29:01):
could block, he could he could you know, give you
twenty five and thirteen on a nightly basis, give you
two or to half three blocks a game, ultra shots.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
But he's in the history of injuries.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
And that's what Dallas was banking on.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
You know, they went to the finals that year Unk
and Ojo, led by Luca and Kyrie, but they had
they had inside prisons defensively were Lively and Gaffert, but
they didn't get no points.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
They didn't have a big who can give them points.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
So when I look at it, they went and got
ad because they like then he'll be a great post presence,
yes presidence, a great pick and roll guy offensively and
on the playoffs he can average thirty easily, you know
what I mean. I think that's what they were thinking,
and obviously it just didn't pan out the way that
they thought it would.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
But HER's the thing, though, O Joe, Okay, we get
all the ad as an inside president. We got a
guy that we can dump the ball down to and
he can with his own shots. I won't that whip Luca,
not without Luca. Get that to tell you, I go
somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Some got to give. That's that's why they kept Kyrie.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
I think they banked on Kyrie being that guy who's
gonna be you know, it's gonna be a great two
man game between Kyrie and a d And unfortunately we
never got to see it.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, no, no, and you probably that you know, you
hear all the rumblings now that the Mavericks are looking
to trade they d Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Once those rumblings start, you already know. Yeah, for sure,
you already.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Know what it's gonna make it look even worse. The
trade gonna look. It already looks bad. And everybody thought
it was bad. Nobody thought this was a good trade.
But Nico and the Dumont those were the people that
thought they looked this was a good trade. Who thought
this was I haven't heard anybody they thought this was
a good trade, except Nico and Dumart at the time,

(30:59):
clearly he's having you know, Biar's remorse.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
I don't. I don't even think they thought it was
a good trade.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
They had to because they.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
They had to come out and say it. And I
know they in the back of their mind, like, you
know what, this ain't right. Something ain't right. I don't
put my foot in my mouth. You know got you knew,
good guy, damn well, what you was letting go. You
knew it wasn't gonna look no different whether it was
twenty pound or three hundred pounds. You knew he would
give you a thirty.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Like I said, Look, I think Ad with AD's health
and he's playing because I've watched him. Go look at
Ad when he was in when he was when he
was the guy, and and uh uh.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
The Pelicans give you twenty eight, twelve and three nasty work.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
That was a long time ago, though, But that's what
I'm saying. When he was healthy, had boogey because see
he wants to play. C Ad don't want to bang,
yeah him, And now he will play. He'll play the
five the last five minutes of the ball game. Because
That's what they did. Because think about it, Joe, he
had his best season win with the Lakers, Javal McGee,

(32:03):
Dwhight Howard. They would come in and play the five.
They did all the grunt work, they did, all the
leg work. Last five minutes of the game, guess what
he slide to the five. Lebron slides to the four. Yeah, yeah,
that's when he does. That's that's when he does. It.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Did his work, but I just did.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
The trade didn't make sense to meet because hold on,
you giving up a guy, you say, because Luca's not
in shape and he's injured. But he's five six years
younger than a D. Yeah, he's five six years younger,
and he can he can give you the point, he
can give you more points. He could rebound, and he

(32:43):
can assist, he can get, he can trouble. He's gonna
walk in triumple double. He's officient as ad No, because
he's taken you know, ten eleven, twelve step back three
is a game, yes, huh, but he I mean when
he's cooking, you ain't gonna find very many guys. Only
only Will could give you a sixty point a sixty
to twenty triple double. And that's what he did. I

(33:07):
just don't I don't get why. You know, Look, I
get it, Like Ojo said, out of fire him for
making that suggestion. Look, get your ass out of here.
Dare you coming about always talking about trade Luca?

Speaker 3 (33:18):
What the hell?

Speaker 1 (33:19):
As a matter of fact, I'm fin to trade you
for another gen. The Lakers were willing to offer Klay
Thompson four years eighty million dollar deal, but he took
a pay cut to go play with Luca.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
In Dallas.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Per the Athletic, the Lakers and Thompson discussed a four
year eighty million dollar deal in free agency that if
the Warriors cooperated and assigning trade, would ador the three year,
fifty million dollar deal that he got from the Dallas Mavericks.
But eventually the Mavericks gave him fifty and he took that.
But the allure of Luca's greatness was a major pull

(33:52):
as a chance to partner with Irving in the backcourt.
When given the choice between teaming up with Lakers Duo
Davis and Lebron or the average stars, Thompson made a
calculated decision to go with the ladder. Little did he
know the star player was swapped and leave him for
the wrong end of history.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Oh, Joe, Yeah, if you go back and study history,
Joe Kyrie, what is his history? Injury?

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Injuries?

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Injuries?

Speaker 1 (34:23):
The one thing we know about Lebron now he got
once he started getting the nineteen and twenty, he started
getting these little nickknacked growing you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
If you notice, very.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Rarely when you see Lebron James drop dive on the
floor again, Yeah, did that one time? And you know, hey,
and you get older, you ain't got the lasticity. You
know what I'm saying, Oh, Joe, even though I drank water,
I ain't got the lasticity.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
That once upon a time.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, boy, hey, you know your boy you know hey,
I'm you're saying that's how you won, you know, cars,
with our you know, with our bedroom back in the day. Joe,
what I'm saying, you don't talk about it? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
but uh, I mean and and Clay has been impacted

(35:08):
because he's been playing terrible this year. I mean, he's awful.
He's shooting eighteen percent from three. I think he shoot
around thirty percent from the two.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
He's just.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Man, you got you got a rookie playing the point
guard who don't not care on mant it He ain't
no point six, ain't don't mean the magic.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
Yeah, So like he's not gonna understand. I'm saying, Cooper
Flag with him playing the one, he's not gonna understand.
How to you know, really get play the ball to
get him to really get him shots because no, he's
trying to prove that he's the number one pick, you
know what I mean. But you can see they kind
of moved and moving to the side a little bit
and they brought it in, uh Dell, they should have.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah. I think it's good too.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
I like to see Cooper field the lanes and be
able to play like that.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah, play with back to the basket. He can ride
the ball, you know, you put it a you can do.
But the point guard he should never primarily have the
ball in his hand, Joe. That's not what he is
not unless he get a rebound and he pushing up
to push it. Outside of that, don't have your big
taking it out giving it to Cooper Flag so he
can bring it up to initiate the offense.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, Nah, I agree with you him. He's not a
big you can play through Jokic. You can play through.
You can run your offense through Draymond. You can run
your offense through. That's not who Cooper flag is. You
gotta know what you got. I understand he's the first
pick in the draft.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
And a lot of.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Times you have these ideas or why I see him
doing this, I see him doing that, But that's you
didn't see him do that at Duke, right, that's not
what he did you And now you get so now
you take this dinner napkin and you try to make
it a tablecloth. You see what you did, Oh Joe,
it's a dinner napkin. You try to make it a tablecloth.

(36:54):
Let it do what it do. Yeah yeah, but Clay
like man, y'all got me down here in Dallas. But
I ain't too mad. You know, I got something. Hello,
heay too bad. I'm too bad. Dollar's been okay to
a meet that's your meat. Yeah yeah, maybe my basketball game.

(37:17):
But there are more important things in life than basketball.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
It's saying, hey, that's funny.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Oh y'all.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Before we go to the next topic is holiday season
and the team at ISO Joe Foundation and Nightcap want,
oh want you to help our community and make sure
everyone can enjoy a wonderful Thanksgiving. Please donate forty dollars
to feed a family of ten with a full Thanksgiving
meal at all the sides. No one should go hungry.

(37:48):
The Lincols pinned in the chat. Joe, tell us about
how you came up.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
With this idea, man, me and my team got together
and we just wanted to, you know, do something special
for the families who may not have a great Thanksgiving.
You know this this upcoming Thanksgiving. So we thought this
would be a great, you know, small token of our appreciation.
And we got we already got people making donations of
oh cho uh, you know these feasts, these dinners, because

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that's that's typically what it is. It's forty dollars to
feed ten people, to feed ten people, really, that's it.
Forty dollars to feed ten people. And we already got
people making donations. So all you gotta do is go
to www. Dot isofoundation dot org and all you gotta
do is donate forty dollars.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Bro, you can feed ten people, and we're gonna I'm
gonna do better than that, Oh Joe, Oh Joe, You're
gonna match. I'm gonna I got ten. I'm gonna send
you ten k oh all right, hell and forty dollars
can fift ten. I don't know how many if my
math ain't good at the top of my head right now,
but I won't. I want people to have a very
festive Thanksgiving. I want people. I don't want people to

(38:56):
be hungry. I want people to look. I understand times
are hard right now, everything that's going on with with
and I can't do anything about what's going on up
in DC. All I can do is how many kid
with fee we can feel two hundred fifty. I appreciate that,
appreciate appreciate that five hundred.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Hey, hey,
my mad thing, right Joe? How much steady h.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
I feed two fifty, you feed two fifty, So ten
for me, ten for you.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
I need to understand. I need numbers. I need to hear.
I need to hear numbers so I get to better
understand that.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
How much were talking about? Ten k fees? Two hundred
and fifty families?

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yeah, hey, Joe, I'm I'm gonna show sent over the
something to you. Joe.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
I'm saying to you ten, Joe, you have mine you
have mine tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
I appreciate that. Appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Hey Joe, Hey, I'm gonna get you, right, Joe.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
No, hell no, they talking about Oh Joe, donate that
fifty nine hundred. Hell no, he ain't go doing the No,
fifty nine hundred, that's mine.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Hey, Joe, Hey, with a lincolnt.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
You gotta go to Hey, Oh Joe, you gotta go
w w W dot I so I SOO Foundation dot org.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Hey, babe w W dot bababe.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
I soo dot w w W dot I so Foundation dot.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Org Io Foundation dot org.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Hey, Oh Joe, Yeah, you ain't even gotta worry about that.
Venlogy o me neither man. You just don't't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Don't worrybout go to w w W get lumped up
if you don't play up your money.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Hey, let me let me know. You find it?

Speaker 3 (40:37):
A sent them?

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, you found it? Hey, he donate donate for thanks?
Getting real quick, y'all doing righteous with some with three
z ros.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Boy, I'm talking about Hey, boy, y'all, I don't care
what they said about y'all.

Speaker 5 (40:49):
Boy, y'all hey with me, you're hey, Joe, listen, I'm
all about helping.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I'm all about feeding families because.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Hey, look whatever you I got something jumping out y'all.
Let your boy know. Hey, look I got you hear me.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, you got a black suit, Joe.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yes, sir, my money don't come in by the new year,
you're gonna be attending one. So we I gonna feed
the families. You know what I'm saying. You know with
what thing? You know, you go to the past over,
you know, you get to night, get the nice meal.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
You're gonna You're gonna kill me.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Man.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
You won't be fifty one hundred for two years.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Man, come on, hey, I got child support. I'll behind
a little bit. I'll be hind a little bit. You know,
I was just trying to catch up. You feel me,
you know, work with your boy man, work with.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Your boy man. That's crazy. Man.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
I appreciate. I appreciate y'all. Family, them families. Gonnappreciate y'all too, man.
Oh yeah, yeah, we want everybody get some. You know,
I'll show over there. Just one scoop of mashed potatoes,
one scoop of addresses, Joe, No, no, no, no, no,
no no. But it's gonna feed. No, No, we're gonna
do them right, We're gonna have them. Okay, Yeah, I

(42:09):
appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah it work. What No?

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah, working working too.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Hold I'm saying. I'm saying, huh my lenk work too Okay, okay,
what's your linked?

Speaker 1 (42:26):
W w W You're gonna get up if you don't
play your money.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
I got you, I got you. Hey, hey, you got
to understand. Then, point into what the citizens Thanksgiving? It's
all about giving back. You know a lot of people
are just starving. We don't want them to starve. See,
you're not hurting for that fifty nine.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
I'm hurting you, Joe, Joe, O Joe, I'm hurting.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
I'm I'm hurting.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Nobody. No, hey, hey, one thing about it, boy, they
ain't never as bad as a scene because hell now,
ain't never that. But what what we lose, we will
always get back because in a in a very I
give you, I give it six more months, but we're

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gonna be right back.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Left from all I've said that just a all I
do is ask the Lord to give me an a
wake me up in the morning.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
That's it, that's all I need.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Man.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
He don't give you the he done gave.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Me, He done gave me the weapons to go fight
any war. Yes, sir, when he wake me up in
the morning, that's all I need. Oh, Joe Paul Pierce
says he's taking the Marris twins over the Jokic brothers.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
In the street fight.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Joe boy, one of them, one of them, like sixteen
four hundred.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, you know that don't mean nothing in the screw.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
He got to be a to move with all that, Yeah,
because that's what they said. They said, Man, he ain't
got no card I heard. I briefly heard him talking
about it, briefly talking about it. Now, what hold on?
One of them an mm A fighter, one of the
one of the Jogis brothers, brothers. And the one thing

(44:10):
you know about mm A fighter, they normally even they
normally got some decent cardio.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Now yeah, they got a little decent cardio, you know,
little ground game. You know, they don't they don't play fail,
they don't play fair, and especially with anybody with any
kind of combat combat training. Un I mean, it gives
him advantage over any regular civilian, I think.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Oh yeah, and sixteen four hundred, Yeah, that's a big
that's a big boy. N you know. You know I
had the chance to film with today, uh Ela, Oh okay, yeah,
we we filmed today down here in Spain. And of course,
my my crazy I asked him if you want to spar?

(44:50):
And when I asked him, when you want to spar?
He didn't. Showed me to highlights of all his knockouts.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Man, he didn't.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Hey he did not even knock that, you know, brother
Max Holloway.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
And yeah, oh he got oh he got crazy hands.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Oh Joe, Yeah, you ain't had to tell me. You
ain't have to tell me.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Not you ain't.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
You ain't want none of that smoke.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yeah, after I seen, after I seen the highlights, they
showed me out like nah, you know, you know listen, hey,
we're gonna do the work we need to do right now.
But yeah, I changed my mind. I don't I don't
want to spark. I'm thinking because you know he's a
little small, I'm like, man, what man I man I?

Speaker 1 (45:24):
But he talked about he can now. He talked about
he want to fight a bud. I like, bro, you
I understand you emm A but mm A boxing and
pro boxing is two different things. As color McGregor. Now
he caught Floyd on the tail. Then imagine you caught
Floyd five years earlier. Man Floyd toy with that boy,

(45:45):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah, Hey, he let him get in them deep waters, Joe,
let him get tired. Go ahead, punch yourself out, get tired,
and let me catch you in the back end.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Yeah. No, hey, Hey, the one thing I said about
the Marris brothers, now, they ain't gonna back down.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
From no action.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
No.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Once I found out they fought the football team, I
was like, okay, they're real one football teams and Kansas Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Which I mean they fought the football team.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
They fought the football team.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
The whole team is a few players.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
A bunch of them. Okay, the mere fact that they
did that, because I ain't never heard of a basketball team,
because that would have never happened at State.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Right mm hmmm. Yeah, they them problems.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
As a matter of fact, normally, don't nobody want them
problem unless you come from the city. Now, you know,
sometimes you know, they guys got the squaddal with people
out the city. That's a whole different that's a whole
different animal. And you know, we try to contain that
because me I got the card that everybody knows. I
can't be out there, you know, you know, because you
know your boy. You know your boy back then, don't yo?

(46:55):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well you used to be in there,
your shirt down and anything in the spine. No, no, no, no, no,
I wouldn't. I didn't go to no party, Joe. But
you know what I'm saying. I'm at the car washing
up at the barbershop. You know, I had to pull up,
you know, late at night. Yeah, you know, but they
I got a I got a three hundred z X
sky Blue and I got a three hundred bands.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
You had that anybody?

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Yeah, I had a brother played in the league. You
think you go leave?

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Oh, I got eyes on, I got leevies, I got
dark siders.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
For show where you were clean?

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (47:41):
You had all that college and a cat like me
and have about two pair of jeans.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Well, I went to I went to college.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
I went to college with two brown red Pigny wiggly bags.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Everything I wanted.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
It I had when my brother make got a little money. Yeah, no,
touchdown was two hundred dollars, one hundred of yard game
with two hundred dollars, And I have two hundred yards
and four touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Don't yo, you know how.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Much money that of helse A lot? That's a lot.
They listening in college at that time? What he make
you feel rich?

Speaker 3 (48:13):
You hear me?

Speaker 1 (48:14):
I was rich? Go back to think about it. Nineteen
eighty eight.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
How much a thousand dollars was a thousand dollars to
a college kid?

Speaker 1 (48:24):
What that was a lie?

Speaker 2 (48:26):
He's about you talk about nineteen eighty eight. Well, you
know what I could do with a thousand dollars a day?

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Not pay me.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Man?

Speaker 1 (48:40):
But uh yeah, but look at hey, I'm telling you
now that borrow twenty they back it down for no
action now. But hey, I don't know if anybody ain't
nobody doing no really, no street fights, no more if
they don't have to. No, no, hey, people, people find
you up a poking. Yes you know I ain't No,

(49:01):
ain't no more. Fair it's a fight, fight fair, it's
a fight. Yeah, this ain't no street fights ain't sanctioned.
Bust over the head with a bottle. So the market's
cousins said, the Pelicans need to relocate. It was five,
It was times five six years ago. Especially in New Orleans.

(49:22):
You go to there are thirty six people there court
side was twenty five dollars. Damn blow it up. Move on,
there are no fans. Joe Man, you know what, he
probably got a point, Uncle Ojoe.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
No point, Joe. Come on, I don't do that.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
What they're gonna go to because they look at that,
They look at that, bringing the team to Seattle, and
they bringing the team to Vegas, they got a look
they need one in Vegas. Boy, we they thin't gonna
be jumping in Vegas. Y'all already know it, Yeah for sure,
because they got a bake they got they already got football,
they got a hockey, they got a w NBA, they

(50:01):
got the age that's relocated from Oakland that's coming here
in about two years so, and now they have an
NB so they have the Big Five.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Basketball gonna be there soon.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
Yeah for sure. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
I don't think it'd be the Pelicans, you know, you
know what they need?

Speaker 1 (50:15):
No hell no they no, no, no, no, no, no no,
no Repelicans. They want a new to you. They want
somebody to spend about three four five billion.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Yeah, yeah, it's it be an expansion team, but for
the for the Pelicans, right and with the markets, talk
about with them, about the course, the course of the size,
heats for twenty five dollars, winning cures, all with winning
cures all.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
You know.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
And then the people of New Orleans, they deserve to
have a sports team, whether it be the Saints, whether
it be the Pelicans. But to get the people to
come out, you got to be able to win. You
got to put the product on the court.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
You know, when you had a D he wanted out.
Zion doesn't want to be there. So it's hard. It's
hard to keep a star if you get a superstar
and he doesn't want to stay.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Yeah, you're right, you're right, because they guess they got
some decent town over there.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
But it just ain't enough to be No, no, no, no,
not with OKC. Them young boys, the oldest guy twenty six,
twenty seven, they ain't going nowhere anytime soon. You got
Wemby and that squad in San Antonio. They not going
anywhere anytime soon. And now you got the rockets with KD,
you got Shingoon, you got Thompson man.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
Please, and.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Guys just don't The guys don't want to be there.
I mean, they come and they don't want to stay.
They want to be in bigger markets. Zion, I guarantee
you if As gives putting Zion on a lot to
take the test, he would have rather gone three and
gone to New York as opposed to go in number
one and going to New Orleans, Right, I believe it. Yeah,

(51:51):
And it is what it is. I mean, just I don't.
I don't know if miss Benson is gonna move it.
I don't.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
I don't think she will. I don't.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Saints of There and and and and and I mean
you could.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
Because they on the they own the Saints. Yeah, yeah,
my late husband, Yeah, they ain't moving that.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
So all right, Joe, let me know what you think
about this.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
The NBA announced this long away to plans to overhaul
the All Star Game, laying out how the new United States,
once again versus the World, format will go and how
teams will be formed. Going to a three team for
matt featuring eight man rosters, two of which will be
made up of American players and the third of international players.
There will no longer be any position requirements.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
In the past, starters have been made up of two
backcourt players and three for front court players, with the
reserves being the same split plus two wild cards this year, though,
the starters will be formed of the top five vote
getters regardless of positions, and the reserve will be the
top seven regardless of positions. It's a seven time All Star, Joe,

(53:10):
what do you think about this?

Speaker 4 (53:13):
They trying to do whatever they can to spice the
All Star weekend back up to get people excited, to
get people to tune in, obviously, but man, if you're
gonna have all the foreigner guys, but we're talking about Lucas, Shae.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Say, Joannis Wemby, Yo kicch Yo kich, that's five. Those
are your top five players right there. They are international.
We're gonna be in some trouble. Your top five players
are all international. Tell me an American player that's better
than the five that just named. I wait, you're gonna

(53:50):
be in some trouble. But the problem is, I don't
care what you do. If the guys don't want to
play hard, they're not gonna play. The guys don't want
to play it anymore. So you gotta put it in
some incentives. Man, You gotta put some incentence in for
them for them dudes to come out and compete at
a high level O. These guys making fifty and sixty
million dollars and I got incentivelize it. Yeah, they spoiled,
they spoiled, they spoiled. Yeah, they spoiled. Yeah, absolutely, yeah

(54:15):
you do. You aren't, I mean, gonna huge disservice Kobe,
I mean Michael Jordan. Michael Jordy probably just shaking his head.
That's probably why he don't even go no more. May
Jo did go to the bost Guard game, Kobe with
Kobe Kobe rested, So ain't nowhere in hell Kobe Bryant
with short to that, Yeah, ain't no way the old Guard.

(54:35):
Like I said the same thing. I said the same
thing about the Pro Bowl. I remember saying. I said,
they're gonna get theyre gonna cut this out.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Yeah yeah, I oh, Joe, you went with the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Now, we didn't tackle like it was a playoff game
or a regular season game.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
But we did tackle.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
And when that fourth when that fourth quarter came.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Now not now we get down to the nitty gritted
because we trying to get that little tenth Joe, little
ten thousand.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
We need that.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
That's how we played. The Windows got ten thousand. The
winner's got ten, the losers got five. You brought five people,
that's all your money, hotel, hotel room, and to feed them.
Trust me, I already know I already man. Time Time
took his family, Time had about lunch, meat, bread, Time

(55:22):
went to the grocery store. That's why I ain't doing
this time No literally, time bought had like two gallons
of milk. No time black damn sandwiches. Times u h yeah,
add up quick one. I really wasn't taking nobody. I
was taking my coaches. I was taking my my position

(55:42):
coach and his wife their wife's so you know, my
position coach coached me, he'd be gone somewhere else. I
fly me in. So my sister didn't want to go.
She had already been gone like twice with my brother.
She's like, nah, I'm done with it. I didn't want
to go no more. So most of the time I'm
I'm going by myself or you know. And then I
take my coaches and the wives out to eat, and

(56:05):
then basically it was just you know, be hanging out with
the guys. Yeah, but that now, you know, I showed
wish I could go back and play.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Again on Yo.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Yeah. Man, But it ain't even the wine no more so,
it ain't no fun.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
There's there's no there's no excitement to making the Pro
Bowl because you make it and you're going right to Orlando.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Y'all.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Hell, when you made the Pro Bowl back then, it
was a it was.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
A big deal. Man.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
You're going to get behind my time. The Blue Hawaiian
You eat them wings with that friends dressing.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Hey all, I remember, all I remember. I don't know
if anybody in Hawaii might see this. The French toast
at the Ilani Hotel, Yeah, second to none. I ain't
had nothing. The closest thing I've had that was just
as good as that is the French toast I ate
in Montreal at a restaurant called the Avenue. Those those
two places is the best Frinch toast I have ever had.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Man. They got some French toasts at the Beverly Wiltshire
right there on right there on Wilship Rideale Drive. Yeah boy,
they got some French show Joe, and they got a
croissant croissant. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Hey, the French toast, I see.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
The I see the jack rabbit, be the German shepherd up.
Just get a bite of it.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Hey be that's over there with the rich folks, ain't it.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Yeah, they got a place, they got a place in
in New York with pancakes.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
I want to go.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
I forget the name of it, but I see the
French toast. That rock be eating his shell, be making
it a French toast. That bread this fit. Yeah, I said,
damn is that a loaf of bread or what? Yeah?
I like it. Hey, y'all ate like y'all ate like
that on game days? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
you got to realize, Joe, we played it too. We

(58:00):
played at two o'clock. I would eat breakfast. I'd eat
breakfast at nine. I wouldn't eat again until after the game,
which would be about five thirty six. Yeah, yeah, I'm saying,
but it wouldn't be like nothing heavy. No no, no,
no no no no, no, I have I would eat
like French toes with bananas, egg whites and uh an oatmeal.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Yeah, hey, Joe, Joe, I get my same, my same
McDonald's meal before every game, even if we were playing
on the road, I would have somebody. I would have
somebody bring up I mean, just hotcakes for sausage and
a large orange juice as it real simple.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Yeah, but uh yeah, it's it's it's not the same.
Guys don't take it serious anymore. And and really the
only thing that's the same is the All Star Game
in baseball, cause how do you have fast baseball? You
gotta throw ninety five, you know, you gotta you know,
change up sliders, you know, and there's something on the line.
I mean, whoever didn't it's still All Star game. Whoever

(58:53):
wins the All Star Game, it gets home field gets baseball.
That's still the same. And see, yeah, like I said,
this guy, they didn't want to play anymore. Even though
they increased the money. It went to twenty five and
I think now it's probably like fifty eighty thousand for
the winners at the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
And it's because hey, look Austin weekend. Guys be it's
like a vacation for real. But they know they gotta
come out and play. Yeah you know what I mean. Yes,
I used to watch it, used to look forward to it. Man,
I watched Jordan. Imagine them how they go at it.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Oh, man, Kobe, they used to play O Joe, we
used to we play we tackle.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
It wasn't no.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Forty five, forty five forty one ball game.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Please, it was listen, hey, Joe, it was competitive. It
was competitive.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Let's I used to watch it.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Man.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
They used to have a lot of fenstivities for the
Pro Bowl and all that with the quarterback duels and
all that. They still do all that, Oko, Joe, Nah,
they no, I mean they basically now they have like dodgeball.
They have the quarterbacks trying to hit that moving target.
They have.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
They have some.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Stuff, but the fun stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
I mean, look, we joked around at practicing stuff like
that because you know, I remember one year. As a
matter of fact, I'm trying to think that was a
ninety six seeds, so it's ninety six season, but it
was the ninety seven Pro Bowl with Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
So we go out there like I think it's that Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Uh huh. So junior junior said our quartet junior like, man,
he let me, I want to play. I want to
play tight end. Okay, hell, here here you go. So
he go to tight end, I go to linebacker. Quartet
man Tom calls a little around. Take it in. What
nothing gonna get done that day? But come game, hey,

(01:00:43):
come Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Oh yeah, they're finna play now yeah, y'all, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
A brucie t Oh that game close? Yeah, Bruce Brucey
and DT rest his soul. They getting off that ball,
They getting off that There was the days they ain't
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
No more with you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
I'm sorry, man, Times have changed.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Time for our final segment of the evening. It's time
for Q and A.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Uh? I'm going to my first name, Oh, Aaron Oillens.
What's up up? I'm going to my first NASCAR race
next year at the Coca Cola six hundred. Who's your
favorite driver all time and your favorite NASCAR memory?

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Wow? My favorite? I like a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
I like a lot of NASCAR guys. I grew up
kind of watching Richard Patty and Dale earn Hart. But
I would probably have to say my favorite is Jeff Gordon.
I did an appearance with Jimmy Johnson the forty eight
Lowers car, but the twenty four DuPont. But you know,
I grew up way back when they had had Gang
and all those guys, the Allison boys. Uh kill Yarborough, Yarboroughs,

(01:02:02):
Stirling Marlin, awesome Bill from Dawsonville. Probably my favorite memory.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
When uh, who was it was it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I think it was Bobby Allison and Cal Yarborough wrecked,
and I think it was Darryl Waltrip or or Richard
Petty that end up winning the nine the seventy nine
Daytona five hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
They crashed each other.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
I think I think I think it was Bobby Allison
because it was two brothers, Bobby and Donnie. But I
think I think Bobby Allison and kel Yarboro ended up
wrecking each other and either Richard Petty or Darryl Waltrip
ended up winning. Richard Petty drove dodge the STP car

(01:02:57):
uh uh no, nineteen seventy nine Dir Daytona, Yeah, okay,
man Ash, you don't remember that. I remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
I was there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Hey, guys, I thought you remember that, But I think
it was seventy nine. Tin O David said Pain needs
to apologize from everybody that was bashing him, and AJ
situation seemed personal and mental. I hope he's okay. Hey, Tino,
you heard me apologize the older man in apology oh

(01:03:36):
old one to uh Jabon Kenlow too, And I gave
it to him because I believe as loud as I was,
and saying that he was wrong. I should be just
as loud and apologized because that man he said it.
They said it that he just didn't swing like you said.
He DM me and sent me the video also. So

(01:04:00):
that was seventy nine, wasn't it. Yeah, with DAYTONA five hundred,
nineteen seventy nine type it in nineteen seventy nine, Dayton
the brother. I think AJ's fine. I think AJ wants
to contribute, wants to be a He wants the offense

(01:04:22):
to know, and he knows that they give him an opportunity.
He can help the offense get out of the funk
that they're in and they definitely wouldn't be having as
many three and outs as they have. So it was
Donnie and who ended up winning with a kell Yard

(01:04:44):
bra or Richard Petty, not mean whether it Darryl Waltrip
or Richard Petty that ended up winning. Yeah. See, you know, hey,
you're all feeling what Joe you The app back back
then in the South pastcar was huge. Now it's still

(01:05:04):
big in the South, but not like it was because
you go to every convenience store, Joe. You remember, it
used to have hats, they had handkerchiefs, they had Jackets.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
All that stuff, all your favorite drives.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
You can get Terry Labonni, you can get Bill Elliott,
you can get any Harry Gant, no skull, bandit, River Fox, Sterling,
Marlin Pearson. Oh man, Oh, I had me some I
ain't gonna lie to it. I had me some skull.
I had me some handkerchief. What hey, that was the

(01:05:35):
whole thing. Hey, and I wasn't the only brother that
had that either. Just so y'all know, triple ax. Come Saturday.
Keep your hands and your feet to yourself unless someone
else owes you fifty nine hundred you right, you right?

(01:05:55):
GK knocks one seventy one. Greg, Hey, can y'all wish
my wife Real a very special happy birthday?

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
We absolutely would love to. Real.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Greg wants to wish you a very happy birthday, and
us at the Nightcap family want to wish you a
happy birthday. Hopefully you had a great day, did something
really really fun, went to a great got you a
great meal, and hope he got hope Greg bought you
a nice gift. But happy birthday, Real, Donovan d oh Joe,
y'all feel about Pinnick? Do y'all think he is fundamentals

(01:06:26):
like footwork and decision making, or could be play call
and be better, big fan. Look, he a young player,
Oh Joe. I mean, may y'all really think everybody just
supposed to come out and be like Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Listen, that's the problem. I think players like Mahomes, Burrow, Brady, Peyton, Manning,
they Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, they spoiled the fans. They
spoiled the fans the special the fans of certain teams
where you see quarterbacks that go early and you're expecting
that type of play from them, you know, this early
in their career. It's just not going to happen. At

(01:07:00):
some point. There has to be a maturation process where
they may get to that. But there's a chance that
they don't. They don't become elite, they don't become a
Tier one quarterback, and they just they just become just
just good. And I think Pennix Junior is going to
be okay. I think he has to be careful about
what he says, you know, in the media, and choose

(01:07:21):
his words wisely. I think he's gonna be alright.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Yeah, Look, it's the same in the nineties, there were
not fifteen great Tier one quarterbacks in the two thousand,
they weren't fifteen Tier one great quarterbacks. It's never gonna
be that many. There's levels to this. Yeah, I know. Look,
I understand that everybody wants their quarterback to look like

(01:07:45):
a Mahomes or one of these Tier one quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
One of the greats about Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
That ain't happening. Guys.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Everybody ain't gonna have that, just like everybody ain't gonna
have a Kobe or Lebron or Jokic or a Bird
to play for their organization.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Ain't gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Yeah, Bright in Detroit Detroit basketball, the poortier ain't ce guars.
Aaron Jones, Wait a minute, I thought you wouldn't be
listening to non football players and people who get paid
to study the game. Why do you care about their opinions?
I thought, I answered that, Aaron I tweet. My thing is,

(01:08:29):
I don't have a I don't care if you didn't play,
I said, if you Meana times and study film, have
at it. But I think I know things that Meana
don't for the simple fact I played, and I look
at the game a little different.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
But why do you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Care what I say to you, it seemed like because
I ain't jumping on your time, like you ain't jumping
on mind, I ain't never jumping on nobody. The timeline
say you don't know what you're talking about. That's what
y'all do. So clearly y'all know what I'm talking about.
Being Oh Joe eyes sold? Can I get a birthday
shout out? Turned thirty eight on November twelfth, being happy,

(01:09:09):
oh belady, birthday, Happy Evan birthday, thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Eight, Happy birthday, Happy birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Well I remember when I was thirty eight. Well you
a young vibrant whoa oh Joe got thirty eight?

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Yeah? Me, yeah, man, from.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Twenty five feet away. I'll take a tie and just
swing it. You know your old time to country over
yu peeing it from twenty five feet away. Do all
that though? At thirty eight?

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah at thirty eight, right,
I ain't ain't. I ain't lost magic yet.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
I ain't know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
I'm still a little something.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
You know, you know I still love you, though called
you up a little something every once in a while. No, Joe,
not like like you know, I ain't steph current, I
ain't gonna make one hundred and two in a row.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
But you know, I'm I might hit a good you
know yr good day. I might get you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Know, yeah row Yeah, yeah. Hey, I'm just saying, don't
try to block the shot, but I can make three
in a row. Raymond Fountain? Is that a Raymond Felton
NFC runs through Dallas?

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Run through?

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Who ain't nobody going through Dallas to go to San Francisco?

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Keep hey, y'all gonna be watching us in February?

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Do what ain't somebody he's talking about the Pro Bowl?

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
Dallas, y'all got pipe down, a little bit, piped down,
a little bit, pipe down, pipe down.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
And Joe, after all these years, at this point, you
should you should understand that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Oh cho oh chall I'm a real fan, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
Listen, listen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
And part of being a real fan is not being delusional.
That's listen.

Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
I'm not being I'm not being delusion. I'm not being delusive.
I understand what's going on. Understand what's going on. But listen,
I ain't gonna just leave because we in a little turmoil,
you know what, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
You can stay there, Hello, we wanted to stay there, Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Joe, y'all been for thirty five years.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Joe, Yeah, Joe, do you know, hello, Joe, do you
know this life for y'all to win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
How were you when they won the Super Bowl?

Speaker 5 (01:11:23):
Joe five?

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
I'll probably about ten when they went when last everyone
ninety five? Yeah, I'm about fourteen, damn Joe. Yeah, I'm fourteen.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Man, you could a pack of cigarette for a dollar
back then.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Man, what you can go to You can go to
the to the store where the dollar and get plenty
of stuff. I remember with cigarettes was fifty cent the pack.
I don't hey, but hey, hey, but I tell you
what the more people they didn't want to get out of. Hey,
you going to the store, son, Yes, Hey, bring me
pack a cigarette?

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
You can keep it? Give me that better than bad?
Please you?

Speaker 5 (01:12:04):
Ally?

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Hey, what you want Win'sda Vincon Ages, Virginia Slims.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Yeah, oh Joe, I gotta get that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Go back.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
And I remember everybody said, even my mama, boy, if
cigarettes ever go to a dollar pack, I'm done today.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
The day they go to a dollar.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Pack, cigarette bout six dollars seven dollars a pack right
now and people still smoking.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
I got my mama to quit I bet my mom
twenty five thousand. She couldn't quit.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
My mama say, you're gonna give me twenty five thousand.
My kids quit smoking. My mom hadn't been smoking since
she was fo probably twelve thirteen. Come my grandma because
my grandy sister, Anime used to smoke. And my mom
was like, hey, give me a cigarette, Anime, you better
not tell you better not tell mayor I give you
a cigarette. Well, if you don't give me what I'm
gonna tell you did. Yeah, So my mom had been

(01:12:57):
smoking since you was like twelve or thirteen. I said,
I bent you twenty five thived. You can't quit, she's
my mama. Looked she had two. She had just bought
two cartons. Mama like, she said, i'ma smoke these two
and I'm done. That was twenty five. My mama quit

(01:13:19):
cold turkey. Ain't no, ain't no winning. My mama smoked
them two cartons. He said, Babe, I ain't I ain't
had my I ain't had no, I ain't had no,
I ain't smoked no more. You gotta be a strong
will to do that. One looking for for money wanted
to get money from my baby man. Please my Mama

(01:13:41):
walked from Chicago, and I was like, I thought about it.
I said, hold on, Mama just bought you a car.
I should be good enough. She said, no, that wasn't
a deal.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Baby.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
And the low pez if ps two don't play. How
you feel about my homeboy, he's not gonna play. They're
gonna reevaluate him in uh in four weeks? So uh?
Hold on? How it's eighteen dollars a pack? You been
a carton? How much cigarettes a pack? Check?

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
How much cigarettes a pack?

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
What? How much? Johnny?

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Eight dollars?

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
That ain't bad? You said it was seven that back right?

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
I remember what I remember they fifty There was fifty
cent a pack. Yeah, and people everybody said that they
ever go to a dollar, they gonna quit. Then they said,
they go to a dollar fifty, they're gonna quit. They
go to two dollars, they gonna quit because like it
seems like the price keep going up and they people
still smoking. Hey, look then why you got people out
here hustling them cigarettes?

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
They ain't the other pack in New York City.

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
Baby, the whole the whole carton, No, a pack, not
the carton pack.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Yes, but you know they be selling a lot of
loose cigarettes in New York. Yeah, okay, and it says
if PS two doesn't play, how do you feel a
guy my homeboy saying we got this, We're gonna get this, Doug. Oh, Joe,
you don't have my Broncos shirt on Sunday?

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Right, okay?

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
Just so you know, he feeling good. He he feeling
good about the Broncos.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
And yeah, o Joe, we did a number on y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Joe, Yeah, yeah, yea. We ain't gotta talk about it. Hey,
we did a number on them too. They only score
three points.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Uh, she's old, she's old.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Flex Davonte Smith is on pace for a career year
and we're talking about A J.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Brown.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
You know our gm is AJ is under contract to
a twenty nine. You want him pay the price?

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
Yeah, m.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Well, Ajdavonte don't really do a whole lot of talking.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
And he he he, he expressed his displeasure as well
about to.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Oh he has, oh he has, yeah for sure. Doctor
Frankie L. Bellaman, tell him Joe, how about them cowboys?

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Doc?

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
You can't say foot or ball. You've been talking about
you you was psychic and you know you're getting to
your stuff. In early and they ain't won a game since, Doc. Hey,
and you better not, Doc, you better not be y'all
better not lose on Thanksgiving. Y'all know y'all got Kansas
City on Thanksgiving. Yep, yeah, Doc, I'm with you, baby,

(01:16:48):
I'm about to do cowboyy Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
Pray, Oh, Joe, the camera you got in Spain, it's clean. Good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Look.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Are you planning on running with the bulls unking know
your adventures?

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Hey, listen, I'm glad you said that, right, because that
that's that's certain stuff we can tap into. Running with
the Bulls. Aren't going to have to do it. I
can do it. I think they need to do. There
need to be some thing, Joe, and that we need
to do in that space of creating content outside of
what we are to do, because everybody do this, and
you know we we wanted the best at it. But
it's a lane that hasn't been touched you hear me,

(01:17:22):
And you could be like my coach and where we
could almost be stuff that's semi dangerous and I'm willing
to take that chance, you know. So we we need definitely, yeah,
we need to make sure we we we we we
and to stay into that lane that nobody's touched. Okay,
because the world, the world will appreciate, appreciate that. Going hunting,

(01:17:46):
you know, me and you swimming with orcas in the wild.
H that that's that's That's what I'm talking about. It
has to be things you don't want to do that
you're willing to try.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
Scles though in a while, Yeah, yeah, yeah, they'll attack humans.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
I don't got on doing that. Yeah, no, you don't.
You're right, can't got doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
We got Hey, we gotta do things we normally wouldn't do,
things that are out of our characters. That's what people
want to see, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
And that's like life and depth like you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Know, hey, Joe, that's a good thing about it. So
if if you got you went out the right way,
great content.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
I gotta I got a different idea how I want
to go out. You're just me talking though Philly Talk
with AJ said not just what phillyp Media said, but
Davonte Sequon Lane Johnson said.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
It's predictable as well.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
AJ is a scheme open like Chase PS two said,
he gets open and that's what makes him great. Well,
y'all need to y'all need to take that up with
the coordinator with the Eagles. Why y'all get mad at
me and O Joe and Joe, I ain't calling no players,
Landy Ray, Hey, guys, been listening to you guys for

(01:18:57):
an hour, so I can see the aura Barreles, Oh
you could. I couldn't see it. It was amazing. What's
the most amazing view you've seen when traveling? The most
amazing view? I saw Hayley's comment back in nineteen eighty six.
You ain't see that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
I did? I did? I did, And I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Know, And it don't happen every between seventy five and
seventy seven and a half years, so I don't know
if I'm gonna be around to see it, but I
saw it. You feel very fortunate if you see two
of them, because you're damn sure won't see three. You
should be very very fortunate if you see two. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
That's my thought to maybe catch catch that old second one.

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
Hey, I don't know if this is amazing, but I
was on the plane during nine eleven.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
Were you did that?

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Did that?

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
Are you down? Because they took this the first time
in history that all all played George W. The Bush
ordered all planes out of all planes out of the sky.

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
I was headed to Boston. I flew from Little Rock,
Arkansas to Atlanta, Georgia to connect. When I got to Atlanta, Uh,
we we got on the flight we was taxing out
to get ready to take off, and he pulled back in.
He was like, we gotta we got an emergency. We
got to pull back in. It's an emergency. And they
told all us to evacuate off the plane. When we

(01:20:23):
got off the plane where the first plane had already
done hit. Yeah, so we looking at it on TV
and they didn't look real to me at first, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
But I headed to Boston. Yeah, that was my rookie year.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Wow, I remember like yesterday. Oh I got stuck here
into a well. We not a bad place to be
stuck now, I don't considering where I went. It wasn't it.
Jamal the singer Yo, uh catch Fray show up every
day in my life?

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
My wife talking about not tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
I looked there and said, the hell you say? Hey,
stall out, Jamal Man. She probably had a hard dad work.
She probably came home and then cooked the meal. Hey,
kep up break man said, baby, I catch you tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
Here you say, Ricky, what up game?

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
Flying out to the d R in the morning. What's
y'all travel plans in twenty twenty six with up free
out like a scout or new route? Hey?

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
Uh, what's our players on? YOA? Where we're going?

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
I don't know if it's on you, it's on you.
You you tell me you want to go? You know,
me and the miss be gonna travel. You know you
want to bring your little partner with you? You know
we could do, you know, let a little double date.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Joe?

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
You want to come? You want to come along to uh?

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
I can't go nowhere just me and you gotta I
gotta have Joe, because somebody got to be the boss
of reason.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
They got to be the bors of reason. I ain't
no reasoning with you, some reason.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
Huh. Don't you not no voice or nothing? You the
voice of some bullage eye.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
I'm the best person to travel with it. Don't matter
where we go. We come to Spain, I can speak Spanish.
We go to France, I can speak French.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
You know, I mean, I mean I'm the French Fries
and French toast is not speaking French. No, nothing I
speak I speak French.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
I speak Spanish like I'm the person I speak Russian.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
Tell me something and what Miyama? Who?

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
Miyama, Miyama what? Okay, I'm asking you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
It's ocho, but you're not saying it right.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
Miyama Miyama. Decent there. My name is Vincent.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
No, your name is not Vincy, your name is your
name is Shannon.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
No, but my Spanish name.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
When I took Spanish, everybody has it already taken.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
Everybody had. I had to take it. I had to
get a name.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Everybody had taken Yary with Greg and Steven. So I say,
you know, what.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
What you when you when you travel abroad, do you
tell women, I mean people, your name is Vincent? No?

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
Okay, Okay, I don't really travel. I hadn't been abroad.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
Actually I've been to Uh where did I go? I
went to Italy?

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Hey, I was in Roll.

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
I was in Rod went to Florence on that train countryside.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (01:23:31):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
You know you know I was you know, I was
getting ready to fly to Italy tomorrow. I was gonna
go to the wrong I want I wanted I want to.
I want to show my baby. I want to show
the coliseum. I was like, you know what, let me
let me lock in, let me stay focused, to l
a downtown usual coliseum. Hey, but listen, I know we

(01:23:53):
got nightcap tomorrow, right. Yes, see, I see how focus
I am. See how dedicated I am. I see say
that I'm not. We're not gonna We're not gonna go
to Rome. We're gonna wait till the season is over.
Football season is over, and we got a little more
time to enjoy the city instead of going there for
a few hours and fly back to the States. So
I'm flying back. I'm flying back to Miami in my

(01:24:15):
flight even what four hours? Five hours?

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
See that you would over to have a little bit
of time.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Yeah, I just I flew in the win this morning,
I flew in last night. I did what I needed
to do today, and I'm back in the Miami tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
Well, yeah, we're doing something.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Yeah, yeah, Hey Joe.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
He said, So go ahead, what're you gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Say, Joe? I would I would tell it Joe in
and out? How much we talking?

Speaker 4 (01:24:42):
Yeah? Yeah, you know, y'all gotta have somebody with y'all
who got some sense.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because trying to talk me
into something, and so Joe bet the boy to read,
so Joe could break.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
The time I got nah, I wouldn't listen. You gotta understand.
Whatever I try to talk you into, it'd be nothing
like Nico Harrison and that Bush.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
All right, all right, like that? All right, man, you
have us try to scale up my subus.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
I see, now that's great content.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
Uh, Saucy say, so we don't need Lebron Laker fans
awful tonight?

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Oh yeah, so y'all want to trade Lebron? Huh mm
hmmm what Lakeer, what what's up? But what what?

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
Lebron hated that y'all lost?

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Ce beat the breaks off of by what?

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
By? Like by like thirty thirty? What punks?

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
God, it was a whole lot too, a few yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Uh. David Mantiano Eagles, Oh see, Kevin Patula is going
to destroy us.

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
I agree with a j.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
Can you imagine everybody can't have Ben Johnson call him blaze?
Everybody can't have a Sean Head or Baby. Yeah you can't,
Andy Reid, Yes, sir, the creativity is different.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
C b started Uh. She of course said, CBB started
your early prediction of any Yukon we taking our title back.
Were building football program up too. Yeah, y'all playing basketball now.
But I don't I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
Know if you ukon't gonna be able to beat those
blue bloods.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
Bro, come on football, Yeah, yeah, to beat the Georgia
and the Ohio States and the Bamas, and I don't
see that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
Hey, you got you gotta bring a whole lot. We
got to bring a whole lot of boys in there
for that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
Uh fletch uh.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
I catched up on the shoulder the other night when
you said you wish coach would stop feeding y'all. You
almost had me throw up off my ca to food
away because we're doing so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
That was funny, bro, that was funny.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
I'm losing. I'm miserable. I want everybody else to be
miserable too. Oh did you see the new formatic the
women's hundred meters at the twenty twenty Olympics, All three
rounds the same day. I did see that. It's opening day. Man,
that's asking an awful lot of these women instead. I
mean three rounds and one day. Normally they have maybe

(01:27:21):
two rounds and then they have the finals the next day,
or they won't run round in two rounds the next day.
But that's awful lot. I hope they space it out
and give them enough, give them enough time to recover.
So they shouldn't have the space out, you know, morning,
then the noon, and then at night. Yeah, I mean
the women taking over see it, they might end up

(01:27:43):
having see see It race beat whatever whatever see is running.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
That's gonna be the signature race b more cale uh.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
In twenty eighteen draft, Lamar Jackson, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield
and Josh Allen the best quarterback in the draft class
in NFL history. You can make that case. Eighty three
might have something to say about that. Now you know
l Way Marino was in the same draft with Jim Kelly.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
Jim Kelly went the four Super Bowls that didn't win it.
John went to five, one, two. Uh, Marino went to one.
So it's when it's all said and done, you might
have a compelling argument, young man, because Lamar hasn't been
to the Super Bowl. Well, y'all gotta get to some
Super bowls now, Jay underscore Fields two twenty seven. Since

(01:28:32):
Scataboo is hurt, would there ever be another Mike Alstar
type player.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
You know it would be hard too, because they don't
even team the way the way the NFL is now,
with the way offenses are, most teams don't even use
a full back.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
To that to that point, nah, they blocking. He was a.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
Perfect fit for for the Giants. I think the forty
nine is also used as a full back.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
A little bit chick, Kyle euscheck.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
There's one more team, Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
The Ravens Ricards.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Another team so not use use a full back.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
Yeah, thank you guys for joining us for another episode
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The all pro cornerback from the Texans, the Houston Texans
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joining us. We'll see you tomorrow night after the game
the Jets and the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
Yeah, I'll be back into state tomorrow.

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I'm He's oh, Joe, He's alright. So thank you guys.
For joining us. We'll see you tomorrow night after the game.
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