November 9, 2025 • 60 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Oregon saving its college football playoff hopes by beating Iowa,the Miami Hurricanes roll Syracuse 38-10 today, and Akeem Mesidor joins the show to talk about the season thus far and much more!
0:00 - Oregon saves CFP hopes, escapes Iowa on last-second field goal3:03 - Miami used some tricks to roll to a 38-10 win over Syracuse toda7:10 - Miami Hurricanes DL Akheem Mesidor joins the show18:10 - Kyler Murray’s future in Arizona is getting cloud26:23 - Jayden Daniels won't be placed on IR30:20 - Darvin Ham on Westbrook37:05 - SGA says he wasn’t a fan of how the Thunder won the title39:50 - Scout on LaMelo Ball44:25 - Play or Fade46:35 - Q & Ayyyyyy
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, Johnny, were gonna get you out of them. This
when Oregon saves college football hopes escaped hour on the
last second field goal number nine to our Ducks took
down the who did the Hour eighteen sixteen on Attica
Sappington's thirty nine yard field goal with three seconds to remain.
The Ducks lean on their run game, which gas Hour
for two hundred and sixty one yards on thirty six carries.
(00:21):
The special teams produced twelve points, including a safety after
basting out by hour. It was raining, the conditions weren't
very good, but Oregon found a way. And that's what
you have to do to keep your hopes alive. You
got to just stay alive. It's a surviving advance.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
That is it. And something you know, a surviving to
gets you beat too. Humph Yeah, surviifen will get you
beat too.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Not the normal organ we're used to seeing the way
they perform today. I don't know, maybe the conditions, maybe
the temperature.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Maybe the rain, whatever it may it be. But again,
same thing with the event.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Not Vandy game unless you unsu Alabama, unless you Alabama game,
same thing, same thing. Sometimes sometimes you get a game,
you play a team that is somewhat inferior, and they
just play well.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
They just play well that day any given Saturday.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Yeah, anything, you know, I think for Oregon obviously, you know,
you look at the end of their schedule. They have
USC coming up and then they finished with Washington, so
two ranked games.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
You know, they're they're not.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Breezing their way into this College football playoffs.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
They're definitely gonna have to come out the next couple
of Saturdays and earn it for sure. This is one
of those ones where you're like, Okay, we got out
of there. Next like, let's go get ready for sc
We've seen what they are, We've seen their games on tape.
We feel like we can beat them. We go, so,
you know, they should beat the next two teams they have.
But it's nothing. It's not a layup, it's not guaranteed,
it's not you know, they're gonna have to go.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Out and fight for it. To be honest, I don't
really know.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
What stands out on this Oregon team, to be honest,
The quarterback of time shows flashes. I think the defensive
time shows flashes, But like I don't think you look
at it.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
And say this is one of the best.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Or better Oregon teams in the past decade or so,
and like so it's like what do they do well,
you know kind of type of thing.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
But they're going to be in during the conversation. They're
in the mix.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
We'll be talking about them a lot for the next
two three weeks if they take care of business.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yep. Hey, make sure you guys go check and subscribe
to Johnny Manziel's podcast Glory Days on all platforms. Johnny,
thank you for joining us. We'll see you next week. Man,
have a good one. Hey, head back out and you know,
have a drink for me.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Much love, See you next week.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Alrighty. Miami used some trick plays on Show today to
road to a thirty eighteen win over Syracuse cars him
back through four touchdown called a scoring pass and a
clipped ten thousand yards passing to Mark in his college career.
The Hurricanes put it on each of the first four
drive them scored on each of the next four. Miami
had no points on his first twenty two plays than
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twenty two points on his next twenty two plays. That's
the thing that's so frustrating about about Miami. Yeah, like
you could see like like damn man, they just moved
about up and down the field. Yeah, and then the
next game be like, have y'all ever have y'all practice?
Have you watched take? I mean, what is going on?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I have no idea With the talent that UM has
right now, but the money that they're paying Carson back,
I mean, things should be very smooth week in and
week out, and obviously it's not that some of the
games they've.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Lost, I'm like, what the hell is going on?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
And then back throwing the interceptions that he throws, and
I think about the talent he has around him is
good enough to even on a bad night, if he
has a bad night, the talent around him should be
able to overshadow his bad play.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And that just hadn't been the case.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
The players are good, the skill position players are good,
but then they're not as good as what they used
to be. It's not some of the Hall of famers
that came through there, but there are some.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Is this is different. They're not They're not the Kynes
of the eighties. They're not the Kings of the two thousands.
That that's that's not that's not what they have. This
is a different time. This is a different era. They
got good players. But you said, I mean, you look
at what they had. They don't have no Ed Reason No,
Sean Taylor's no, Ray Lewis's that's different. Ron Brown No, No, No,
Santana Moss, no, Michael Irvin, Brett Parvis. They don't have that.
(04:27):
That's not that's not that's not what they have. They
have good you know, if anyone the Heisman Bernie was
the number one pick in the supplemental draft. That's not
what they have. And it's okay, most teams don't have
what they once had, but this is a good team.
And I feel they've lost some games that they definitely
should not have lost because their quarterback has turned the
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ball over at the most in opperate time, most inopportunity times,
too many times. Yes, you can't. You can't throw four
picks and hope you overcome it.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
No.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
For one, you don't have the defense to overcome it.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
No, and the offense is too inconsistent for you overcome
you know, throwing four goddamn picks.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Nah, that that's not happening.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I mean, they beat Notre Dame, beat South Florida, they
beat Florida, They beat Florida State. Then you lose the
Louisville with the four interceptions, you lose the s m U.
You beat Syracuse. Now you go at n C State. No,
you home to n C State. You're at Virginia Tech
and you're at twenty four pit. So we'll we'll, we'll see.
(05:34):
You know, they still there's still a lot to play for.
They could get to they could get to ten and
two and just let the chips fall what they may
because somebody above them is going to lose and they'll
get an opportunity to rise. But they they gaged some games.
You can't lose at home. The Louisville. I understand Louisville
is a good team.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But hey, Louisville, good did they did they?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Did they beat Cal tonight? Or did they? Did the
Cal beat them? Didn't they play?
Speaker 7 (06:01):
Can?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Louisville wasn't lose the Cow?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I listen, I can't even see the scoreboard. I can't
even see the score and I know goddamn well that
that didn't happen.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
No disrespect the Cow, but a Louisville Louisville twenty nine,
twenty six, You serious? You want to say that again?
I beg your pardon, you serious? I beg your pardon,
you serious?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
How you're playing.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Twenty nine, twenty six col beat number fifteen Louisville.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Hey, I don't want to. I don't understand college football.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, I know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I don't understand college football.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And Cal beat them in Louisville.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
But he took about the all till about the off night.
That's an off night. That's an off night.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Look at me putting my foot in my mouth without
I mean, you don't expect Louisville lose, especially not with
the way they look against you in me.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And you go out there, you're playing, you lose to
and you lose to a cow?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Well god damn?
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (07:02):
Oh man, okay, oh okay, here you joining us now?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Oh Joe. Today's game against Syracuse you had four tackles,
a sack of a half, and a forest bumble. Harry,
your six year red shirt senior, A keen metador king?
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I beg you all mute, we got it.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
I mute it.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
There you go, yeah, yeah, we got you. How y'all doing?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
What's great?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Man? Thanks for joining us?
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Of course, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Go ahead, on't yo.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Now we're gonna say it's good. Haw's everything.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Everything's going well coming off.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
You just enjoying the rest of football tonight and and
the sleep.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Hollo on you you hello, talk about y'all win thirty eighteen,
you get four tackles, sack of the half of forest
bumble and you in your room doing room.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
Yeah, I'm in my apartment. I'm renybody, I'm really about
to go to sleep soon.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Yeah you go.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
To slow key.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, hold on you down? You down there? You down
the street from me and the gables.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, right here.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Man, man, I'm hey, I'm finna come pick you up
after the show man, We're finna go hear booby trap man.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Nah, not me me.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So look, we were just discussing a little earlier. Yeah,
you had a couple of set back. You lose the Louisville,
you had lost in overtime to s m U, and
you guys bounced back. Tell me what the mindset was
today coming in playing you know Syracuse team that's on
a little hard times, but you want to make sure
they don't get on good times against us.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
Well, we established an identity at the beginning of the season,
starting off strong really and then we kind of we
kind of steered away from that during that's m U
and Louisville.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
So just throughout the week, really.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
The mindset was get back, like get that identity back,
work through it, work hard every day, and then do
the same in the game and just get that get
our swagging back.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
So mal Mail Kuiper has you very high on this
draft board. So when you came into the season, what
was what was what were your goals? What were your
expectations coming in for your final season at the at
the you.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Really just want to put on tape that I can ball. Really,
just that's it.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, And the funny thing about putting it on tape
showing that you can ball, it's about not only bawling,
you know, it's about doing it consistently week to week.
It's about doing it regards to who you're playing, especially
against those that are also ranked high that you're probably
gonna have to see Sunday because you know, obviously once
you get to that next level, the level of play rises.
(09:41):
You know, of the players you play week to week,
so you know, being able to show that that's one
of the reasons you know, I've watched you. That's one
of the reasons you are ranked so high on Male
Kuiper's board. So for one, congratulations of that. And these
these next three, these next three you get. You get
to finish it off and put put the exclamation point
on that.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Everything actually.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Helped me out with this. From Canada to Miami, Canada, Miami, Canada, Miami.
How did this happen?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Well?
Speaker 7 (10:15):
I loved football. I started when I was young, played
all my life, really and somebody will coach. Like a
mentor of mine approached me one day and he just
explained to me how football is more series down in
the States. You know you can you can go to
school for free. You can make a living out of
this for real down in the States. So he just
(10:36):
put me onto college football. And then I went to
the multiple different schools, ended up finishing my siear in Florida,
and then recruitment blew up and I was able to
go to I was able to come play the you
want football, So.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You're like, hold on, wait a minute, you mean to
tell me I can go to school for free, get
a college education. If I'm good enough, I might eventually
get Hey, mellions and millions of dollars to do this,
what I signed up at, what I need to do?
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Basically, what part of Canada?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Oh yeah, okay, okay, you know I played I played
in Yeah, yeah, that was fun that Canada. Canada is
a beautiful place. The people are very, very very nice.
That's that was one of one of the best places
I ever had to visit. So it's really dope.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Has American football been everything you thought it would be?
Because I know we heard you say your mentor told
you about American football and how they take it serious
and not to say you guys, but you know, you
guys are Canada is more known for hockey. That's what
you guys are known for hockey, and you know, and
in the USA will football and they take it serious.
College football is taken serious. NFL football is take it
(11:49):
even more serious. So has it been everything you thought
it would be? Had to been harder, had to been easier,
or it has it been exactly what you thought it
would be?
Speaker 7 (11:57):
Well, growing up, the narrative was, you know, Americans, they
don't play with it each your breakfast, you know, just
yeah up here and then, So that was my expectation
the whole time I finally got here and it was
just football is football at the end of the day. Yeah,
really felt the same. So it wasn't really a culture
(12:19):
shock or anything from me.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
It's ball as.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Ball and you're like, you know what, I just whipped
this Americans ass. So I yeah, Hey, I guess I'm
pretty good too. You y'all had this all hyped up
and I'm whipping living right.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Yeah, So what do you what are you major? Me?
You have it.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I'm assuming you have your degree by now? What what
are you major in?
Speaker 7 (12:43):
So? I graduated with the American Studies major and then
now I'm getting my my master's in Liberal arts.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Okay, hold on, what's what's American studies? Is it history?
I mean, what do we studied in America?
Speaker 5 (12:59):
It's it's really it's really everything. I don't know a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
In other words, you major the eligibility. Let me get
me something that I can stay eligible to play on
this football team because my goal is to go play
at the NFL. I get it.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
I get it to keep Okay, you got that.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Man, You say, look here, I ain't coming to be
I ain't getting no chemistry degree. I ain't they do
no finance, no econ eligible still in the field.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
No engineering, I ain't listen, but I ain't trying to.
I ain't trying to do none of that. I'm trying
to get to that that next stage.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Just got to get to the bag.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So you come from a big family. You got you know, brothers, siblings.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yeah, I've I've about ten siblings. Damn.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I like that.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
I was the youngest, but now I'm the second youngest.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Hold on, don't you mean you? You so? I'm assuming
you're probably like twenty four to twenty five, twenty four, okay,
you twenty four? So how old is the oldest?
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Thirty three?
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Okay, time it's so mom and dad side. So my pops,
my pop's highs No, my pop, I don't know. My
pops is helicats.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
You say pops have helicids? You think he got more
kids than I do?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
I don't know. I mean you have thirteen?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
No, no, okay, okay, only have I only have eight?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Only eight? But I mean that that's that's normal.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So you so how the younger? You got one younger
than you? So how old is he now?
Speaker 5 (14:40):
She is? She's seven? Now?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Hey, yeah, so thirty three to seven, that's that's a
that's a big that's a big.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Gap it is.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
That's that's a sign too.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
You know that, that's a sign.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You heard me on out of what I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Maybe maybe maybe next year after we jumped the broom
and we get married, is about maybe we both have
kids who me and you.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
But man, I'm just saying what I look like having
a kid in fifty Joe.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. You still you
still work, don't you?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah? I still work. Okay, we'll got yeah, plumbing works
now that clog. Yeah, But I know that that.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I think like it's it's it's like like like starting over, refreshing,
having someone having something to live for.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
This man high king, Hey, hey, business, if I catch
if I was a Keen's age once again, twenty right
right right.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Now, and listen, did you hear what you hear what
you just said?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
If I was a keen age But going out on
the limb and we're doing that again will make you
feel twenty four?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
You know it won't, it could, but thank you see
I told you.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
You please, I'm I'm barely getting the ride on my own,
let alone. Chase of a toddler. Hey, kee, both of
us can't be peeing in the bed. Hell to the dog,
I'm good, I'm good. A key man, congratulations on a
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big win today. A keeen mesle door four tackles the
second and a half fort bumble. Hey after you, good luck
the rest of the ways, stay healthy, good luck in
the draft.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Man, thank you. I appreciate they do me a favor.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Tell Tell Tell Malachai, Man, Tell Malakai. Oto said, what's
uping man?
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Me and men?
Speaker 7 (16:37):
Men?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Is possible we go way back in the way you
back down there in the count Dade County Man.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
I'm talking him? Are all right? Lord said, man, appreciate
you guys, thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Oh Tell you got your mind?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Man, No, I think I think I think it's a
good idea.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I mean, listen, I mean in the Bible it says
be fruitful and multiplied.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It had nothing to do with age, and there was
no age on that on that verse.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
And I just think for me it did something to me,
you know, it made it made me feel feel young again,
like French French fries here with me.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Now.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
You know what it's like, you know what it's like
having a run, run around after her at three years old.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
It's just what you say.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
The Bible saying be fruitful and multiply. Yeah, and Proverbs
two seven says, hey, in this economy, be broke and die.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
So no.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Bad, you said, I ain't cutting all this stuff. I'm
no bad, ain't bad.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Hold let me see what my baby hold on?
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Mad?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Please? Oh you're trying to bad chat y'all been? Oh
you're crazy? Oh no ah Man Kyler Murray's future in
(18:04):
Arizona's getting a little cloudy on yo, following a week
in which he's placed on Injurre Reserve, and Gannon said
he'd be bitch for Jacob o Brissett if healthy anyway,
which I said, the Cardinals have some big decisions ahead
of them. Schefter Adam Schefter reported that many of his
sources around the NFL believed the Cardinals and Murray will
part ways in the off season. One source in particular
(18:25):
said the separation is imminent, which means unabordable. Kyler has
two seasons left on a five year, two hundred and
thirty million dollar contract that he signed in twenty twenty two. Currently,
he's currently slated the count fifty three point three million
dollars against the salary cap next season and forty three
point five million against the cap in twenty seven. The
Cardinals will take a fifty seven point seven million and
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dead cap money and next year if Murray is cut
before June first, if he's cut after je excuse me.
If he's cut after June first, it was split to
fifty million into twenty six point two fifty point five million,
and twenty six it's seven point two million in twenty seven.
If Arizona Cap find a trade partner before June first,
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the Cardinals will save about thirty five point three million
towards the cap next season. Oh, Joe, if you were
the Cardinals, gottic casch me breath. If you're the Cardinals,
what are you going to do with Kyler Murray?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Hey, this is a very good one. This is a
very good one. And the fact that they continue to sideline.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Him because Jacoby Brissette has a hot hand and has
him playing extremely well, and the money that he makes. Listen,
I understand what Kyler Murray brings to the table. I
understand what he brings. He's a dual threat. He can throw,
he can extend plays, he's really good at at some
of the things he does.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
But there are things that Jacoby.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Brissette brings to the table with with with his lack
of ability to run with the ball, but he's able
to throw make all the throws because he can see.
He attacks the middle of the field, something that Kyler
Murray's not good at because it's hard for him to see.
He's always having to you know, his ability to be
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able to just drop back and make him the throw
that Jakobe can in the middle of the field.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
It just it's just it's just different.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
But again, he can, he can, he can make he
can make plays, he can make me He's good. He's good.
He's good at what he does. But it's not enough.
I mean, have you seen how the offense looks.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yes, I've seen it. Oh Joe, you remember when they
played they beat the Cowboys. I say, they say, hey, Kyler,
take another week. As a matter of fact, take another
two three weeks. Yeah, I said. I said that in jest,
but I was being dead serious because the offense at
no point in time with Kyler, excuse me, no point
in time did this offense this year with Kyler looked
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like it did on Monday Night against the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
No, no, no, no, but this is this is a
scary thing we talked about. Jacoby said, are you trying
to say he's the quarterback for the Force Refuge?
Speaker 5 (21:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
No, he Oh Joe, they told you everything you needed
to know when they put that clause in his contract.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Right right, Yeah, I understand that about the playing the
video games. Yeah, absolutely, yes, yeah, I mean, but but
where do you go now?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
So you just start over?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Oh Joe, how many how many division titles you won?
How many playoff games you won with Kyler? You could
win that many when you can win that many without him?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, it's been a minute.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Does he make you the mere think about what you
just said? The number one pick of the draft. The
coach said, if he was healthy, he still wouldn't be starting.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Let me ask you a question, Joe Burrow come back healthy?
Is Flacco still playing?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Absolutely not?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Oh whoa, that's that's that's the applesite orange now.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
But look, the thing is, look, Miami, Look, Miami might
be in the business for a quarterback. New Orleans damn
showing the business for a quarter back. The Raiders need
a damn quarterback. Cleveland possibly need a quarter Look, there's
gonna be places he's gonna be able to go the Jets,
So it's not like he's not gonna be able to
find a home.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, oh.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It got to be the right fit on It has
to be the right fit for the type of quarterback
he years.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, you have to build a system around him, yoe.
And most quarterbacks, most quarterbacks have a system built around him, right.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Well, the system was built around him. Yes, the system
was built around him.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And you got the weapons you Mather had many McBride.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Oh yo, but I told people, Yo, he's small, not
just in height but way Yeah. Yeah, he's compact. You're
taking those hits like that.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Man, you ever seen him in person?
Speaker 9 (22:52):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
He he that's that's the dog.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
He literally.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
We could play some ball though. Man, he's exciting. He's exciting.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
You know when when put in the right position to
make make make plays, he can do it. He just
hasn't been able to do it consistent enough. And we're
able to do it consistent enough. It makes everything everyone
around you better, It makes your team better, It gives
you a chance, and it just it just hasn't been
what they thought it would but.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
He just need to leave. He needs to go somewhere else.
You know, maybe maybe maybe maybe it's a situation where
they're tired of him, he's tired of them. It just
needs a clean break. He just needs a clean break.
He's his own he's his own guy. You know, he
has a he has a personality that's kind of looked different.
He wants to do things his way. He don't want
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to you know, Hey, that's how he did it. That's
how he did it. This is how I'm gonna do it.
But I saw this. I saw this coming, and I'm
not and I'm not I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
He's Do you think about him going back to baseball?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
No, not being away from it? This loan. You gotta
go back to the Why would I go back to
the baseball go back to the minor leagues and make
twelve hundred dollars a month? Hell to the noll somebody
go paying thirty five forty million to be the quarterback
in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Should we eat?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Okay? I mean just just because he's not starting in Arizona,
that doesn't mean he's not. Oh Joe, you mean to
tell me he can't play for New Orleans, he can't
play for the Raiders. He's better than what they got
in the Raiders. He's better than what they got at
New Orleans. Is he better than what they got at
the Jets? Yes?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Or no?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Situation matters on it does. What you have around you
is very very important, very important.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I don't care what situation. Is he better than what
they got in New Orleans. And he's better way they
got it the Raiders, And he's better what they got
in the Jets.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
He is? He just is.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I don't know about anything else. Hell, I'm tempted to
say he's better what they got in Cleveland. You don't think, oh, chat,
y'all don't think he better than Dylan Gabriel. So y'all
said he ain't better than Justin Fields. He's not better
than Spencer Rala or what what's a.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Tyler Shook?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
He not better than Shook. He not better than than
picking and Geno. Okay mm hmm, okay, y'all don't think y'all.
Don't y'all don't. Uh So somebody say he ain't better
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than what they got in New Orleans. He ain't better
than Spencer Rala. Tyler shook.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Okay, I'm reading my check going fast. God damn trying
to read it.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Hey, somebody said I'm so unprofessional.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I was never a professional in the first place. Somebody
talking about I'll take rattle over him.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Not gonna lie, you lie, They lying, They definitely lie.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
The man. The man is down now.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
But yeah, y'all not taking no Spencer Rattler, No Tyler
shuk over, no over no, uh, Kyler Murray, You're not
so stop it. Jane. Daniels won't be placed on our
but there are reportedly wide range of outcomes for when
he could return to the field. According to Jeremy Filer,
the commanders are really playing this by ear. So this
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is actually a pretty complicated cause. Because I'm told Daniels
could potentially be back in three weeks. I said to
to four weeks. Anyway, after three weeks on that elbow issue,
not gonna need surgery most time unless something is really
really wrong. They're not. They're not doing surgery on it,
just location. They're not putting much injury reserve right now.
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But talk to talking to the team people, as a
player could return in about five six weeks. Things here
really fast, depending on when they revealit around the bye
week in about two and a half three weeks. If
they're sitting at three and eight, this could certainly be
a factor here. And so they're really playing this one
by ear. Yeah, I think, like I said, I don't
like I said, I don't know. All I could say
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it based it on mine and I had to do this.
All you think about, I gotta have to block with it.
I ain't got to block with that. And it's on
his non throw it's on his non throwing But the.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Cost is thing.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
That the one thing that scares me on even though
it's on this non throwing arm, there wasn't any ligament damage.
Let's say since out two three weeks, if their record
is no is no, it doesn't improve it. It's not
for you know, there's no point in rushing back. There's
no point in rushing back. And I think this will
probably be his last game played this season because there's
really nothing to play for at that point.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
You're out the playoffs. Know, you need to risk any
further injury or or re injuring or getting yourself hurt,
you know, at that point, and you just you pray,
you pray, yourself the next season. That that that's just
me now. Now the command this might feel differently.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Uh, being the competitor that I know Jaydon Daniels is,
he might feel differently regards to what our record is.
I want to get out there and play, but hey,
I don't think I don't think he should chance it,
especially if there's no chance at making the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I agree. I said the same thing about your quarterback
in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
But why you keep bringing up the Bengals.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
God, ain't no chance to go? Well, we're bringing Joe
back for us.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, he wouldn't come back anyway. So if we if
we don't have a chance, he wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Be coming back.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
But the fact that we have flag up when Flack
was playing the way he's playing, we probably will be
in the playoffs. We're probably gonna y'all play.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Oh, y'all will bye week? Oh y'all, Yeah, y'all just
gave y'all about to give up forty two. Hey, nobody
give up forty two.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
We will see who Well.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Y'all they're gonna beat y'all. Y'all not gonna y'all not
going to beat the Steelers, y'all not gonna beat what
you call them again, Y'allan.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
You mean the same Steelers you used to mean, the
same Seaers we beat Thursday night, a Sunday night, the
same thing.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
You're not gonna do it again, though, Okay, not gonna happen,
Not gonna happen. Okay, definitely not gonna be Lamar in
the Ravens, y'all could be. Y'all couldn't beat them when
they had Lamar and your had Joe.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
You just listen. It's the NFL. It's Sunday, any given Sunday,
it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
And so it don't matter when y'all play. You're right,
any given Sunday, Saturday, Thursday, y'all gonna y'all can lose
if you do most of the time.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
All right, keep that same energy, got it? Keep that
same energy?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Oh what's the little man?
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I'm good. I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I saw how the Ravens look coming out the by.
I saw how the Ravens. The Ravens look good coming
out that by. Lamar Jackson back from injury after two
three weeks down, came.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Out on fire.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
So how you think we gonna come out out the
by how you think Flacco and Ono and Chase and
Chase Brown, how you think we gonna look coming out
to by?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
The defense?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Is the defen is going to improve exponentially. That's a
big word for me. Exponentially. I can't even spell that.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
But I can say no. But guess what Ojo I watched.
Go go back and look at it. Go back and
look at Chicago's movie. Y'all guys off the ball?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the game. The game
is won and lost in it upfront. It's one of
the trenches.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
And that was that was ugly with Joe. That was
ugly was Darvin Ham said. The Lakers had to put
their roster, had to cut their roster for Russell Westbrook.
And that's hard to compete with so many level so
many lower level role players. But in terms of russ Man,
you know, it was a difficult situation because to get
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a player like that, you pretty much have to cut
your team. And that's essentially what happened. In order to
get russ on the Lakers, they had to part ways
with Caruso, KCP, Kyle Kuzman and a lot of other
players they weren't able to keep because the money wasn't there.
Now you've got essentially three Max super Max players on
your roster, and you know, now you've got to go
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after lower level players who God bless them, they're capable players.
But to be elite, and when a championship in our league,
you have to be elite and have elite groups. A
lot of times that financial constraints just won't allow you
to do that.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, I just I just came to understanding that.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I just came to having a better understanding of that,
especially when it comes to basketball. How your bench, you know,
having it, having a deep bench and being able to
have some of your starters sit down and still not
miss a beat.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
It's still not miss any.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Momentum, you know, when they're not in the game. I
think about the bench. Oklahoma City Thunder, they have an
unbelievable bench. If I'm not if I'm not mistaken, they
might have the best bench in the league. Yes, correct
me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
They do.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, I mean, like so I understand and I didn't
view it like that. I didn't understand it. I didn't.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I didn't understand why people are complaining about getting Westbrook.
You know, I'm thinking, oh, hell they fine, Oh they're
finna run the table. It's finna be crazy. And then damn,
the bench is horrible. The supporting cast wasn't good enough
to carry the load. When all the starters weren't in
h you always had to keep one of said top
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three players in the game at at at at some point,
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I forgot nobody that much. Nobody thought Russ would work
with Lebron in LA except the Lakers. You won't find
one player in order for Russ to work. Russ needs
the ball, and you need to build the ball get
the team around him. This is not to take anything
away from Russ. Russ is a seventy is a top
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seventy five player all time, he's an MVP, a two
time all start all the NBA. But he wasn't good
with the Lakers. And it's okay to say that, Yeah,
him and le Bron just wasn't gonna work, because neither
one is really. Lebron is made. It was better off
the ball than Russ. Russ is not a catch and
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shoe guy, and so when you need it with Lebron,
Lebron was gonna be the primary ball handler. You need
somebody that can catch and shoot. That's why he would
have been So that's why Klay Thompson would have been great.
That's why when you see him play with Steph it's
so great because those guys can catch and shoot. That's
not Russ. What Russ is. Russ is a guy that
needs the ball and he needs to be able to
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get downhill. Well, if Lebron's got the ball, how's he
gonna get downhill? It's okay, Chad, this is not a
knock on Russ. And then when you say this, this
is not taking away anything that he's ever accomplished. He
wasn't good with the Lakers. Y'all know that, but I
guess because he's from LA and he does great in
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the community and he is a solid teammate. Nobody has
anything bad to say about Russ. He just wasn't good
with the Lakers. It's okay. You see when he was
in in in and uh okayc after after uh KD left,
they built the team around him. That's what you need.
(34:14):
It's okay, Darvin, and please stop talking about it.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
You had what for whatever reason, it didn't work. It
didn't work with you, It didn't work with Russ. It
didn't it didn't work. It's okay, it's okay to move on.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, somebody put somebody probably asked him the question.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, but but but but just like, hey, guys, look,
I enjoyed my time there. I understood the assignment. When
you got a team and you got Lebron James and
you got Anthony Davis, no matter who else expect, no
matter who else is on that team, championships is what expected.
I don't I don't get why they did. I don't
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get why they broke that team up, why they wouldn't
re sign Caruso where they left all their perimeter defenders.
They let that go. It's the same thing.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Now.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
The Lakers are not a good defensive team.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
But we gotta stop this notion. And it's not bagging
on Russ, but Russ needs a Russ needs to be
in a system that's conducive for him. And that's okay.
It's just they just man, they just he ha.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
He having a good time over there in Sacramento.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Now, yes, but that y'all, they're not gonna win. Sacrament
will have no championship aspirations. He's not winning, no championship.
And it's okay, It's okay. Got me think about time
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h Russ. Look, Russ played Russ. Look that one thing
you can say about Russ. He's not gonna cheat you
with effort. He's gonna give you everything he got. He's
gonna play hurt, he's gonna play hard. But we this
this notion that Russ bald out in La.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
He didn't.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
It just the pieces didn't fit on your The pieces
just didn't fit him. And Lebron was never gonna work.
The only people that thought it was gonna work was
probably Plinka and Lebron, or because I'm sure Lebron had
something to do with this. He did, he did, but
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it just it didn't work. It's not the first time,
that's not the first situation that's been in the NBA
and it didn't work. And that's okay. It's not the
last situation that that won't work. But Darvin needs to
move on with this man. It's just.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
I don't I don't know what he what he holds
to accomplish by revisiting this. Sja said he wasn't a
fan of how the Thunder won the title. Arson speaking,
I didn't like the way we won the title, if
that makes sense. I don't think we won a m
Beach Championship playing our best basketball. We were definitely more
dominant in the regular season than the postseason. And for
me as well as a player, I don't think that
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was good in the postseason as I am in the wreck,
as I was in the regular season.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I mean, the game is different than the postseason too.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
They don't let you get up and down.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, they don't.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
You play better teams in a series, it's not you know,
they get seven games to try to figure you out.
It's not like, Okay, you play Sacramento, then you're on
the San Antonio, then you got the Clippers. Okay, guess what.
We got a home we got a back to back.
We got Clippers one night, we got the Lakers the
next night. No, you got that one opponent. And you
gotta you know, because they went seven games with then others.
They went seven games with the Pacers and Aaron Gordon.
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If Aaron Gordon doesn't hurt his hamstring in that game set,
what happened? Okay? If Halliburton doesn't tear the key leads
in games in game seven, what happen? I can get it. Yeah,
they look and right now they're doing that. I think
they've lost one game and they're doing this without Jdubb.
So I like his mentality. I like his mindset. It's
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like I will I want to be dominant. I want
to be dominating in the postseason like I was in
the regular season, even though there was first that he
was sensational. But they won, And that's that's what you need.
You need your best player to say, you know what,
I ain't satisfied, and I don't want anybody else to
get satisfied. I want anybody else to get comfortable. Yeah,
we won a championship, but I ain't here to just
win one, multiple multiple multiple. And now they got Hartenstein
(38:38):
had thirty three and nineteen last night. Well if you
if you're getting thirty three and nineteen from Hartenstein, you're
not beating them. Hey, you're not beating them.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Hartenstein is the center.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
He's a five.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Right, Yeah, that's that's that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Man hadn't played yet.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
And when Jdubb does play, here the foe, right, J
Dob is.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
The two.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
That's all mm hmm him and look, I mean they
lou Dort is like really the two. But he's really
a two. He played a small forward. Because they go Hartenstein,
they go Check, they go jadeb, they go lou Dort,
they go shape and them.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Oh well in person, but them boys so tall man?
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yeah, god damn yeah.
Speaker 7 (39:27):
But uh.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
I like.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
I like Shaane's mentality. I like his attitude. I like
the fact that like, yeah, we won, but I ain't
happy how we won.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
No, man, that should have been a hoop of man.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
An anonymous scout, Oh, your anonymous scout says, LaMelo Ball
doesn't take basketball seriously. Yes, he's talented, but he doesn't
take basketball seriously enough. Another West scout said it's hard
to build a winner with him because of how he
plays and the liberties he takes for himself when he plays.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
So because I don't know, because he plays, he plays
the game with flair. He plays the game a little
bit more free than others.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Tell me, tell me the person that in the history
of the game, that's what played with Flair in.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
One Jordan magic, Jordan magic, Kobe.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
That stuff that he's that stuff he's doing and they
didn't play like that. No, you looking at elevating above
the rim? Now magic with the passes and stuff like that.
But they didn't play like that. I mean, he tried
all kinds of stuff on the court, step back shooting
thirty two footers. Oh, but they be going in.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Huh, Hey, they be going in. Hey, he be going hey. Listen,
he's exciting to watch. He's exciting to watch.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Now, his style of play might might not be that
of what NBA scouts would like, you know, from from
their point guard and from the person that's handling the ball.
But I'll tell you one thing as a fan of
the game, he's exciting to watch. He's the type of field.
But he's gonna put bust in the seat. Now, maybe
you want to tell him to tone it down. Jason
Wye was the same way white chocolate. White Chocolate was
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the same way with that goddamn ball. Unbelievable, especially with
the passes and stuff. And if I'm not mistaken, I
heard the stories about once he was here with the
Miami Heat. It was like, hey man, you got to
you got to cut all that out. You got to cut,
you gotta cut Yeah, you gotta cut all that out.
But listen, if they don't want him where he's at,
sit him on down, hit us, then and.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Plus he don't plus he and Charlotte, you people say,
well Badgic had the flair? So which player that is
LaMelo playing with? That's Kareem or James Worthy, right, or
Bob McAdoo or Jamal Wilts or Michael Cooper. So I
just want to did which one of those guys? So
maybe it has something to do with it and being and.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Charlotte, Yeah, tell you take him out the equation. Who
you going to watch?
Speaker 3 (41:48):
No disrespect body, my point, my point exactly, nobody, my
point exactly. And he's not even the type of player
that plays above the rim. So the fact that he
brings all those other qualities to his game that makes
it fun to come watch and sit down that listen,
that that lets.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
You know how good he is. He's he's a phenomenal talent.
But he don't play defense. So now you're going to
turn the ball over and now you're not gonna play defense.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Yeah, yeah, you you you minimize those turnovers, you'll be
all right, you'll be right.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
But they don't.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
It's like you go, look you look at the team
that want you look at ok see, they got like
six seven guys that play defense. So they're never gonna
be on the court without like three solid defenders. Y'all.
You know you got Chet defending the paint. You got
lou Door own ball, you got j will on ball,
you got a you got Case Caruso. I mean, you
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just got guy. They just run guy up, the guy up,
the guy off, the guy at you.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
And you know it Also, when I think about it,
when it comes to players that are heavily dominant on
the offense, on the offensive side of all, for what
they lack on defense, they make up on offense in
other areas, in other areas where most were most were
some you get some players that are kind of balancing both,
but they're not as good, you know, on the officer end.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
I think the thing is O Joe. But here's the
problem that you run into because now you're getting a
nip and tuck game. If you go watch what did
what did Minnesota do? They keep Luke in the pick
and roll. If great as he is offense, we want
you on defense. Now what you gonna do? And they
get whatever they want. They get a lay up, they
get a file, they get an easy jumper. See, that's
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the problem that you run into because at some point
in time. Now, you ain't gonna just blow people out.
So you can't have three four guys on the court
that don't play defense. Can because in a close ball game,
they're gonna get whatever. They're gonna get whatever shot they want.
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But unfortunately, I don't know Carolina not I mean, Charlotte
not gone trading.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Trade him if you want to, I'll tell you he's
the only guy I.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Can come to see trading. Uh oh oh, your time
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Alec pears more than three receptions versus the Falcons in Berlin.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Oh so hey, they play in Berlin tomorrow. Yeah, so
the game come on what six thirty, six thirty, seven thirty,
which one?
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Probably nine your No, it'll be nine your time, right, yeah,
nine thirty your time.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, I'll catch.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
You the second half hitting them six thirty. Hell no,
I catch it. I catch the second half.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
I'm trying trying to think.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Titters finally got on his clock. He like, oh they
set the clocks back on. Yeah they did.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
James Cook more than eighty seven yards rushing against the Dolphins.
Speaker 9 (45:17):
More more?
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yeah, oh, Alex, how many receptions here? Gonna have four receptions?
Alex Pearce, Yeah yeah, of course, of course, of course
you get the catches.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
He got, he gonna get more than four.
Speaker 7 (45:29):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Now they just got rid of.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. So so those targets are gonna
go to go to piers Or and Pittman.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Oh yeah, okay, we're going more James Cook. Oh, he
getting more than eighty seven against the Dolphins. Yeah. Ric
o'dondell more than one hundred and ten total yards rushing
and receivers versus the Saints.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Man, anything with Rico down in it is up.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yep. I like that more. Isaiah likely more than three receptions.
He needs to have three receptions or more against the Biking.
Of course, that's it. Hey, you come on against you,
come on, you come on, nightcap. Oh you're about to
ball out. Every time, you about to ball out. Everybody
twenty five dollars to win, one hundred and fifty dollars
(46:21):
downloaded afterday use coach Shannon. That's coach Shannon. To get
fifty dollars in lineups after you play your first five
dollars lineup. It's good to be right. All right, We're
gonna get you out of here on this one time.
For our final segment of the evening, It's time for
Q and A or Yo Hudlum. Ryan Williams need to
(46:51):
transfer to Old.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Miss Absolutely not. He'll be all right. You're gonna be
all right.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
JJ Carver, Johnny on here looking like weekend at Bernie's. Yeah,
Thomas Baby. Two questions for you guys. Where does Omar
Cooper's catch back up with other pass catchers in both
college and the NFL and SOCCA? Do you do you
see any I U players making it to the NFL? Well,
the quarterback is a high rated prospect. A lot of
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people say he might be the first pick of the
drown Look Indiana adduct. I mean, I'm trying to think
of top Indiana players. The only one I can really
think off the top of my head is Anthony Thompson.
He came out with me. It was a running back.
You know, any Indiana players football.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Player with an Antoine Randall elgo.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
I think he might have went an I might.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
I might be wrong. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
I might.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
I might be wrong, But I thought I thought it
might have been Indian. I could be wrong.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
He might have did.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I can't. I can't remember.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
I just.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
I know I can't. My year Anthony Thompson came out. Yeah,
Anton Antoine Randall little did.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
Go to Yeah, that's that's that's the only person I remember.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
That's not what they're known for. But that was an
unbelievable catch, given the circumstances, given what was needed, and
the dB was trying to push him out of bounds
and for him to get a foot down, do hey, quarterback, Sai,
I'm gonna put it right up under the gold post.
You go get it, and he won, got it?
Speaker 2 (48:29):
That was dope.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
And they also now, y'all don't get no Pennises Junior
Pennich Junior graduated from what you call him Washington mm hmmm.
Don't do that. People try because because uh, Ohio State,
don't get Jameson Williams. Ohio State, don't get Joe Burrow
because that's not where he finished his career at what
(48:50):
if you tried, But if you tried to thank you,
Mark quinnzfe McDuffie said, Oh, Joe, ash, what are your
three favorite college football catchers ever? Ever?
Speaker 2 (49:07):
That's hard. Ever, Yeah, that's that's difficult.
Speaker 6 (49:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
You you should have came by better asking about the NFL.
Speaker 5 (49:17):
Bad.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Yeah, in the NFL, I say it's some really good
Chris Carter, Brandon Lloyd, Chris Carter.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Any catch Brandon Lloyd made, people don't repeople don't forgot
about brain. Can you imagine Brandon Lloyd with the with
the gloves today on Joe Man, please, man, please. People
think fist, people think fist and CC. But Brandon Lloyd
making catches. I'm like this dude catching. I'm talking about
the ball on the ground. He catching the ball on
(49:49):
the ground like this.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yeah, yeah, even nice. Brandon was nice boy.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Oh and what oh he put it one hand like catching.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
He got he got multiple one hands though, he does.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
And I got an opportunity to see him in in
Denver a lot, you know, in the forty nine ers. Yeah, man,
he was Alec b thank you anthing. You're for giving
us the best podcast to watch and listen to. Alex,
thank you for watching Tino Davis. We need Jeremiah Smith
(50:23):
on the show. Well, if you know how we can
get in contact with then we'd absolutely love to have
him on the show.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
I can call him.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Nick marsh Your talking about running for prayers, fixing the debt,
and no government shut down. Been on two years, child,
Please I agree.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
Hey, you you heard what he's said. I've been on
you two years. But why wouldn't we be shut down?
We wouldn't be shut down because of the very fact
that I want to make sure everything stays up and
running the correct way.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Well, I'm realizing we was up and running short the way.
You know them premium about to go up, right, Yeah,
Family of Ford is playing about five hundred dollars in
pre insurance per month, about to be two two thousand
dollars a month. You know what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
You know, listen, they know what they're doing. This is
all the game, This is always this is all a part.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (51:14):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I don't want to make this a political podcast. I
could get into that, but I don't want to get
into that.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
People don't need to see that side of me because
that that's that's that's really that's really not my thing.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
That's not my thing. But I just know what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Yeah, true, And then from a seventy three, if you
if you're a Laker, fan and the Laker lost, you
can't say basket or ball. I didn't see the game tonight.
Did they lose?
Speaker 3 (51:40):
Yep, So that means you can't say basket or ball.
Matter of fact, you can't see any.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Talking to basketball right now. It's football season. Go wife's
tape before y'all speak, O Jay Rod, matter of fact,
go watch te t Texas takes defense. The fuck Johnny
talk about nobody pop out or tape top five defense? Well,
you know what, you know? The thing is they're gonna
(52:06):
have to make a decision here in the next next month. Yeah,
I just don't know, Like I said, a defensive player
winning that award and now it's as good a time
as any to win it because the ain't nobody having
a Joe Burrow type season. Ain't nobody having a Bard
Sanders tax season. Ain't nobody having a Devonte Smith type
(52:27):
season or Travis right.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
I don't think people understand how special you have to
be as a.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Defensive player in college to be considered for a Heisman
just because he's saying people popping out on film. Because collectively,
as a whole, you guys have a good defense, it's
always one person and that one person always rises to
the occasion regards to who you plan consistently weekend and
week out. Not playing a great as a whole as
(52:53):
a unit. What's about one individual? Yeah, all over the place,
popping out on film, no matter who the f they plan.
There's a huge difference in that. That is not in
college football today.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
It's not Remember when Leavar Arrington was playing.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Yeah, Julius Peppers, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
I mean I'm like that, that type of popping out
every week. Oh, I got to watch this MF play.
I got to turn the TV on because so and
so is playing today. Now, it ain't nothing like that
out there.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
On defense, and one.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
Hundred plus year history of the NFL, there have been
two defensive guys to win MVP as a defensive player,
Lawrence Taylor and Alan Page. And now two guys one
Charles Woodson was a primarily defensive player, Travis Hunter, back
(53:52):
and forth. So they've been having the Heisman Trophy since
what nineteen thirty six, I think that's the pole. I
think Jay Bird Wanger was the first win to win
the award in thirty six. I think that's also the
pole era Jay Bird Wanger. So how many defensive players.
And so now you say, now, after all these guys, Uh,
(54:15):
Derrek Thomas with twenty five sacks, he didn't win it.
Teddy Brusk had twenty plus sacks, he didn't win it. Yeah,
Tarah Suggs had twenty four sacks, he didn't win it.
Speaker 5 (54:29):
Downtown Club, Damn.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
It would have. Yeah, I just know it's that. I
don't even think it's at the Downtown that is it
still at the Downtown for the club they still hold
it there.
Speaker 5 (54:49):
I think it was.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
Uh, I just look like I said, it's just like,
it's just so hard for a defensive player to win
that award when when the game has been hated to
so much offense.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
But but you know, even though the game has been
catered to the offense, that's how you have to be
that special as a defensive player to even be considered
to win it.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Though.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
And it's still it's still possible.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
Okay, it's still it's still possible. It's still possible. TJ.
Watt had twenty two and a half sacks. Did he
win the award?
Speaker 2 (55:20):
Absolutely?
Speaker 7 (55:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Michels Strahead had twenty two and a half sacks. Did
he win the award? It's hard for a primarily defensive player.
It's a linebacker, a middle Now if you maybe an
edge rusher, he gets twenty five thirty sacks on Joe. Okay,
now we own the something. Now you got to hold
a quarterback go throw for five thousand and fifty touchdowns.
(55:43):
It's if a defensive player is gonna win, it probably
be the year two winning o Joe, because they really
nobody just like like, h look at me, look at me,
look at me. There are really no offensive guy out
there like that. Yeah, who you say, Jeremiah Smith might
get a might get a trip to a New York
I'm not so sure. He's not the best player in
(56:04):
the country.
Speaker 2 (56:05):
Listen, if he can come out this year, he'll be
number one.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
He came out last year, he might have been.
Speaker 3 (56:11):
Might have been number one. Yeah, well uh yeah, hey,
hold on, think about it. They needed to change that rule, man,
because he should be.
Speaker 2 (56:25):
Coming out this year.
Speaker 1 (56:27):
The fact they even had, they should have traded it
for Adrian Peterson and Hersha Walker because they damn sure
could have came out as freshman.
Speaker 2 (56:33):
Oh well they were. They were different, man, Yeah, and
it was grown men amongst boys.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
But you know what, at least he getting to make
four five million dollars a year. He got a little
something for in his pocket. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then
you know he take it out a bigger He probably
got a twenty million dollar Lawyers of London, maybe even
more Laws of London policy.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
He's gonna be nice, man, he'd be all right, me nice.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of
night Cap. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite
shatter Sharp and that is my partner in co hosts.
Speaker 3 (57:08):
Hey, matter of fact, I know we're in in the show.
Goddamn we started the show. I'm I'm peeking down on
my phone while we're talking college football trying to see
the goddamn ericson Lubin and Virgil Ortiz fight.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
Man fight. Last goddamn in and out fight was over.
Speaker 1 (57:25):
Ortiz got him out of there and.
Speaker 3 (57:27):
Got him out of that, got him out of there,
got him out of there, and so him nine not Boots.
Boots and Ortiz at some point are gonna fight, and
that might be the biggest fight in a long time
for me.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
I mean, obviously Connelo Carnelo Carford was big, but.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
A no, ain't it ain't gonna be bigger than Bud
and Canelo.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
No no, no, not that big, but it's it's the biggest.
It's gonna be the biggest after that to me.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
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to thank Johnny for joining us and a Keen Mesador
who had an outstanding night tonight for the um as
they beat Syracuse. He had four tackles, a sack and
a half, so he played extremely well. Alabama beats LSU
by the score of twenty to nine. Texas Say It
(58:57):
M beat Missouri thirty eight seventeen. Fernando Mendoza threw a
touchdown pass with thirty six seconds left on the clock
as they rally to beat Penn State twenty seven to
twenty four. The number sixteen Vanderbilt Commodoores won in overtime
keep their slim playoff hopes alive by the score of
forty five thirty eight over Auburn. Gonna Stockton threw three
(59:21):
touchdown passes as the number five Georgia Bulldogs beat Mississippi
State Bulldogs by the score of forty one to twenty one,
and Texas Tech number eight. Texas Tech beat number seven
BYU twenty nine to seven to remain unbeaten and strengthen
their push for the college playoffs. In Oregon on a
field goal with three seconds left on the clock by
(59:42):
Atticus Sappington of thirty nine yards win eighteen to sixteen.
Thank you guys for joining us tonight. We'll see you
tomorrow after the game. It's green Bay and Philly. Right
after the green Bay Philly game on Sunday night, I'm
Uncle o Cho. We'll see you tomorrow for all things NFL.
Thanks you wanting goes. We're out
Speaker 9 (01:00:19):
Mhm.
Yeah, Johnny, were gonna get you out of them. This
when Oregon saves college football hopes escaped hour on the
last second field goal number nine to our Ducks took
down the who did the Hour eighteen sixteen on Attica
Sappington's thirty nine yard field goal with three seconds to remain.
The Ducks lean on their run game, which gas Hour
for two hundred and sixty one yards on thirty six carries.
(00:21):
The special teams produced twelve points, including a safety after
basting out by hour. It was raining, the conditions weren't
very good, but Oregon found a way. And that's what
you have to do to keep your hopes alive. You
got to just stay alive. It's a surviving advance.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
That is it. And something you know, a surviving to
gets you beat too. Humph Yeah, surviifen will get you
beat too.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Not the normal organ we're used to seeing the way
they perform today. I don't know, maybe the conditions, maybe
the temperature.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Maybe the rain, whatever it may it be. But again,
same thing with the event.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Not Vandy game unless you unsu Alabama, unless you Alabama game,
same thing, same thing. Sometimes sometimes you get a game,
you play a team that is somewhat inferior, and they
just play well.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
They just play well that day any given Saturday.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Yeah, anything, you know, I think for Oregon obviously, you know,
you look at the end of their schedule. They have
USC coming up and then they finished with Washington, so
two ranked games.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
You know, they're they're not.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Breezing their way into this College football playoffs.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
They're definitely gonna have to come out the next couple
of Saturdays and earn it for sure. This is one
of those ones where you're like, Okay, we got out
of there. Next like, let's go get ready for sc
We've seen what they are, We've seen their games on tape.
We feel like we can beat them. We go, so,
you know, they should beat the next two teams they have.
But it's nothing. It's not a layup, it's not guaranteed,
it's not you know, they're gonna have to go.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Out and fight for it. To be honest, I don't
really know.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
What stands out on this Oregon team, to be honest,
The quarterback of time shows flashes. I think the defensive
time shows flashes, But like I don't think you look
at it.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
And say this is one of the best.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Or better Oregon teams in the past decade or so,
and like so it's like what do they do well,
you know kind of type of thing.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
But they're going to be in during the conversation. They're
in the mix.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
We'll be talking about them a lot for the next
two three weeks if they take care of business.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yep. Hey, make sure you guys go check and subscribe
to Johnny Manziel's podcast Glory Days on all platforms. Johnny,
thank you for joining us. We'll see you next week. Man,
have a good one. Hey, head back out and you know,
have a drink for me.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Much love, See you next week.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Alrighty. Miami used some trick plays on Show today to
road to a thirty eighteen win over Syracuse cars him
back through four touchdown called a scoring pass and a
clipped ten thousand yards passing to Mark in his college career.
The Hurricanes put it on each of the first four
drive them scored on each of the next four. Miami
had no points on his first twenty two plays than
(03:00):
twenty two points on his next twenty two plays. That's
the thing that's so frustrating about about Miami. Yeah, like
you could see like like damn man, they just moved
about up and down the field. Yeah, and then the
next game be like, have y'all ever have y'all practice?
Have you watched take? I mean, what is going on?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I have no idea With the talent that UM has
right now, but the money that they're paying Carson back,
I mean, things should be very smooth week in and
week out, and obviously it's not that some of the
games they've.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Lost, I'm like, what the hell is going on?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
And then back throwing the interceptions that he throws, and
I think about the talent he has around him is
good enough to even on a bad night, if he
has a bad night, the talent around him should be
able to overshadow his bad play.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And that just hadn't been the case.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
The players are good, the skill position players are good,
but then they're not as good as what they used
to be. It's not some of the Hall of famers
that came through there, but there are some.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Is this is different. They're not They're not the Kynes
of the eighties. They're not the Kings of the two thousands.
That that's that's not that's not what they have. This
is a different time. This is a different era. They
got good players. But you said, I mean, you look
at what they had. They don't have no Ed Reason No,
Sean Taylor's no, Ray Lewis's that's different. Ron Brown No, No, No,
Santana Moss, no, Michael Irvin, Brett Parvis. They don't have that.
(04:27):
That's not that's not that's not what they have. They
have good you know, if anyone the Heisman Bernie was
the number one pick in the supplemental draft. That's not
what they have. And it's okay, most teams don't have
what they once had, but this is a good team.
And I feel they've lost some games that they definitely
should not have lost because their quarterback has turned the
(04:49):
ball over at the most in opperate time, most inopportunity times,
too many times. Yes, you can't. You can't throw four
picks and hope you overcome it.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
No.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
For one, you don't have the defense to overcome it.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
No, and the offense is too inconsistent for you overcome
you know, throwing four goddamn picks.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Nah, that that's not happening.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I mean, they beat Notre Dame, beat South Florida, they
beat Florida, They beat Florida State. Then you lose the
Louisville with the four interceptions, you lose the s m U.
You beat Syracuse. Now you go at n C State. No,
you home to n C State. You're at Virginia Tech
and you're at twenty four pit. So we'll we'll, we'll see.
(05:34):
You know, they still there's still a lot to play for.
They could get to they could get to ten and
two and just let the chips fall what they may
because somebody above them is going to lose and they'll
get an opportunity to rise. But they they gaged some games.
You can't lose at home. The Louisville. I understand Louisville
is a good team.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But hey, Louisville, good did they did they?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Did they beat Cal tonight? Or did they? Did the
Cal beat them? Didn't they play?
Speaker 7 (06:01):
Can?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Louisville wasn't lose the Cow?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I listen, I can't even see the scoreboard. I can't
even see the score and I know goddamn well that
that didn't happen.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
No disrespect the Cow, but a Louisville Louisville twenty nine,
twenty six, You serious? You want to say that again?
I beg your pardon, you serious? I beg your pardon,
you serious?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
How you're playing.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Twenty nine, twenty six col beat number fifteen Louisville.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Hey, I don't want to. I don't understand college football.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, I know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I don't understand college football.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And Cal beat them in Louisville.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
But he took about the all till about the off night.
That's an off night. That's an off night.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Look at me putting my foot in my mouth without
I mean, you don't expect Louisville lose, especially not with
the way they look against you in me.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And you go out there, you're playing, you lose to
and you lose to a cow?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Well god damn?
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (07:02):
Oh man, okay, oh okay, here you joining us now?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Oh Joe. Today's game against Syracuse you had four tackles,
a sack of a half, and a forest bumble. Harry,
your six year red shirt senior, A keen metador king?
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I beg you all mute, we got it.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
I mute it.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
There you go, yeah, yeah, we got you. How y'all doing?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
What's great?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Man? Thanks for joining us?
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Of course, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Go ahead, on't yo.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Now we're gonna say it's good. Haw's everything.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Everything's going well coming off.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
You just enjoying the rest of football tonight and and
the sleep.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Hollo on you you hello, talk about y'all win thirty eighteen,
you get four tackles, sack of the half of forest
bumble and you in your room doing room.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
Yeah, I'm in my apartment. I'm renybody, I'm really about
to go to sleep soon.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Yeah you go.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
To slow key.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, hold on you down? You down there? You down
the street from me and the gables.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, right here.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Man, man, I'm hey, I'm finna come pick you up
after the show man, We're finna go hear booby trap man.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Nah, not me me.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So look, we were just discussing a little earlier. Yeah,
you had a couple of set back. You lose the Louisville,
you had lost in overtime to s m U, and
you guys bounced back. Tell me what the mindset was
today coming in playing you know Syracuse team that's on
a little hard times, but you want to make sure
they don't get on good times against us.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
Well, we established an identity at the beginning of the season,
starting off strong really and then we kind of we
kind of steered away from that during that's m U
and Louisville.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
So just throughout the week, really.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
The mindset was get back, like get that identity back,
work through it, work hard every day, and then do
the same in the game and just get that get
our swagging back.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
So mal Mail Kuiper has you very high on this
draft board. So when you came into the season, what
was what was what were your goals? What were your
expectations coming in for your final season at the at
the you.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Really just want to put on tape that I can ball. Really,
just that's it.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, And the funny thing about putting it on tape
showing that you can ball, it's about not only bawling,
you know, it's about doing it consistently week to week.
It's about doing it regards to who you're playing, especially
against those that are also ranked high that you're probably
gonna have to see Sunday because you know, obviously once
you get to that next level, the level of play rises.
(09:41):
You know, of the players you play week to week,
so you know, being able to show that that's one
of the reasons you know, I've watched you. That's one
of the reasons you are ranked so high on Male
Kuiper's board. So for one, congratulations of that. And these
these next three, these next three you get. You get
to finish it off and put put the exclamation point
on that.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Everything actually.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Helped me out with this. From Canada to Miami, Canada, Miami, Canada, Miami.
How did this happen?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Well?
Speaker 7 (10:15):
I loved football. I started when I was young, played
all my life, really and somebody will coach. Like a
mentor of mine approached me one day and he just
explained to me how football is more series down in
the States. You know you can you can go to
school for free. You can make a living out of
this for real down in the States. So he just
(10:36):
put me onto college football. And then I went to
the multiple different schools, ended up finishing my siear in Florida,
and then recruitment blew up and I was able to
go to I was able to come play the you
want football, So.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You're like, hold on, wait a minute, you mean to
tell me I can go to school for free, get
a college education. If I'm good enough, I might eventually
get Hey, mellions and millions of dollars to do this,
what I signed up at, what I need to do?
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Basically, what part of Canada?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Oh yeah, okay, okay, you know I played I played
in Yeah, yeah, that was fun that Canada. Canada is
a beautiful place. The people are very, very very nice.
That's that was one of one of the best places
I ever had to visit. So it's really dope.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Has American football been everything you thought it would be?
Because I know we heard you say your mentor told
you about American football and how they take it serious
and not to say you guys, but you know, you
guys are Canada is more known for hockey. That's what
you guys are known for hockey, and you know, and
in the USA will football and they take it serious.
College football is taken serious. NFL football is take it
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even more serious. So has it been everything you thought
it would be? Had to been harder, had to been easier,
or it has it been exactly what you thought it
would be?
Speaker 7 (11:57):
Well, growing up, the narrative was, you know, Americans, they
don't play with it each your breakfast, you know, just
yeah up here and then, So that was my expectation
the whole time I finally got here and it was
just football is football at the end of the day. Yeah,
really felt the same. So it wasn't really a culture
(12:19):
shock or anything from me.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
It's ball as.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Ball and you're like, you know what, I just whipped
this Americans ass. So I yeah, Hey, I guess I'm
pretty good too. You y'all had this all hyped up
and I'm whipping living right.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Yeah, So what do you what are you major? Me?
You have it.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I'm assuming you have your degree by now? What what
are you major in?
Speaker 7 (12:43):
So? I graduated with the American Studies major and then
now I'm getting my my master's in Liberal arts.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Okay, hold on, what's what's American studies? Is it history?
I mean, what do we studied in America?
Speaker 5 (12:59):
It's it's really it's really everything. I don't know a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
In other words, you major the eligibility. Let me get
me something that I can stay eligible to play on
this football team because my goal is to go play
at the NFL. I get it.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
I get it to keep Okay, you got that.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Man, You say, look here, I ain't coming to be
I ain't getting no chemistry degree. I ain't they do
no finance, no econ eligible still in the field.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
No engineering, I ain't listen, but I ain't trying to.
I ain't trying to do none of that. I'm trying
to get to that that next stage.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Just got to get to the bag.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So you come from a big family. You got you know, brothers, siblings.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yeah, I've I've about ten siblings. Damn.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I like that.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
I was the youngest, but now I'm the second youngest.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Hold on, don't you mean you? You so? I'm assuming
you're probably like twenty four to twenty five, twenty four, okay,
you twenty four? So how old is the oldest?
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Thirty three?
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Okay, time it's so mom and dad side. So my pops,
my pop's highs No, my pop, I don't know. My
pops is helicats.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
You say pops have helicids? You think he got more
kids than I do?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
I don't know. I mean you have thirteen?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
No, no, okay, okay, only have I only have eight?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Only eight? But I mean that that's that's normal.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So you so how the younger? You got one younger
than you? So how old is he now?
Speaker 5 (14:40):
She is? She's seven? Now?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Hey, yeah, so thirty three to seven, that's that's a
that's a big that's a big.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Gap it is.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
That's that's a sign too.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
You know that, that's a sign.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You heard me on out of what I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Maybe maybe maybe next year after we jumped the broom
and we get married, is about maybe we both have
kids who me and you.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
But man, I'm just saying what I look like having
a kid in fifty Joe.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. You still you
still work, don't you?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah? I still work. Okay, we'll got yeah, plumbing works
now that clog. Yeah, But I know that that.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I think like it's it's it's like like like starting over, refreshing,
having someone having something to live for.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
This man high king, Hey, hey, business, if I catch
if I was a Keen's age once again, twenty right
right right.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Now, and listen, did you hear what you hear what
you just said?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
If I was a keen age But going out on
the limb and we're doing that again will make you
feel twenty four?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
You know it won't, it could, but thank you see
I told you.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
You please, I'm I'm barely getting the ride on my own,
let alone. Chase of a toddler. Hey, kee, both of
us can't be peeing in the bed. Hell to the dog,
I'm good, I'm good. A key man, congratulations on a
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big win today. A keeen mesle door four tackles the
second and a half fort bumble. Hey after you, good luck
the rest of the ways, stay healthy, good luck in
the draft.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Man, thank you. I appreciate they do me a favor.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Tell Tell Tell Malachai, Man, Tell Malakai. Oto said, what's
uping man?
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Me and men?
Speaker 7 (16:37):
Men?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Is possible we go way back in the way you
back down there in the count Dade County Man.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
I'm talking him? Are all right? Lord said, man, appreciate
you guys, thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Oh Tell you got your mind?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Man, No, I think I think I think it's a
good idea.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I mean, listen, I mean in the Bible it says
be fruitful and multiplied.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It had nothing to do with age, and there was
no age on that on that verse.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
And I just think for me it did something to me,
you know, it made it made me feel feel young again,
like French French fries here with me.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Now.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
You know what it's like, you know what it's like
having a run, run around after her at three years old.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
It's just what you say.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
The Bible saying be fruitful and multiply. Yeah, and Proverbs
two seven says, hey, in this economy, be broke and die.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
So no.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Bad, you said, I ain't cutting all this stuff. I'm
no bad, ain't bad.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Hold let me see what my baby hold on?
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Mad?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Please? Oh you're trying to bad chat y'all been? Oh
you're crazy? Oh no ah Man Kyler Murray's future in
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Arizona's getting a little cloudy on yo, following a week
in which he's placed on Injurre Reserve, and Gannon said
he'd be bitch for Jacob o Brissett if healthy anyway,
which I said, the Cardinals have some big decisions ahead
of them. Schefter Adam Schefter reported that many of his
sources around the NFL believed the Cardinals and Murray will
part ways in the off season. One source in particular
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said the separation is imminent, which means unabordable. Kyler has
two seasons left on a five year, two hundred and
thirty million dollar contract that he signed in twenty twenty two. Currently,
he's currently slated the count fifty three point three million
dollars against the salary cap next season and forty three
point five million against the cap in twenty seven. The
Cardinals will take a fifty seven point seven million and
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dead cap money and next year if Murray is cut
before June first, if he's cut after je excuse me.
If he's cut after June first, it was split to
fifty million into twenty six point two fifty point five million,
and twenty six it's seven point two million in twenty seven.
If Arizona Cap find a trade partner before June first,
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the Cardinals will save about thirty five point three million
towards the cap next season. Oh, Joe, if you were
the Cardinals, gottic casch me breath. If you're the Cardinals,
what are you going to do with Kyler Murray?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Hey, this is a very good one. This is a
very good one. And the fact that they continue to sideline.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Him because Jacoby Brissette has a hot hand and has
him playing extremely well, and the money that he makes. Listen,
I understand what Kyler Murray brings to the table. I
understand what he brings. He's a dual threat. He can throw,
he can extend plays, he's really good at at some
of the things he does.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
But there are things that Jacoby.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Brissette brings to the table with with with his lack
of ability to run with the ball, but he's able
to throw make all the throws because he can see.
He attacks the middle of the field, something that Kyler
Murray's not good at because it's hard for him to see.
He's always having to you know, his ability to be
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able to just drop back and make him the throw
that Jakobe can in the middle of the field.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
It just it's just it's just different.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
But again, he can, he can, he can make he
can make plays, he can make me He's good. He's good.
He's good at what he does. But it's not enough.
I mean, have you seen how the offense looks.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yes, I've seen it. Oh Joe, you remember when they
played they beat the Cowboys. I say, they say, hey, Kyler,
take another week. As a matter of fact, take another
two three weeks. Yeah, I said. I said that in jest,
but I was being dead serious because the offense at
no point in time with Kyler, excuse me, no point
in time did this offense this year with Kyler looked
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like it did on Monday Night against the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
No, no, no, no, but this is this is a
scary thing we talked about. Jacoby said, are you trying
to say he's the quarterback for the Force Refuge?
Speaker 5 (21:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
No, he Oh Joe, they told you everything you needed
to know when they put that clause in his contract.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Right right, Yeah, I understand that about the playing the
video games. Yeah, absolutely, yes, yeah, I mean, but but
where do you go now?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
So you just start over?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Oh Joe, how many how many division titles you won?
How many playoff games you won with Kyler? You could
win that many when you can win that many without him?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, it's been a minute.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Does he make you the mere think about what you
just said? The number one pick of the draft. The
coach said, if he was healthy, he still wouldn't be starting.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Let me ask you a question, Joe Burrow come back healthy?
Is Flacco still playing?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Absolutely not?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Oh whoa, that's that's that's the applesite orange now.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
But look, the thing is, look, Miami, Look, Miami might
be in the business for a quarterback. New Orleans damn
showing the business for a quarter back. The Raiders need
a damn quarterback. Cleveland possibly need a quarter Look, there's
gonna be places he's gonna be able to go the Jets,
So it's not like he's not gonna be able to
find a home.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, oh.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It got to be the right fit on It has
to be the right fit for the type of quarterback
he years.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, you have to build a system around him, yoe.
And most quarterbacks, most quarterbacks have a system built around him, right.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Well, the system was built around him. Yes, the system
was built around him.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And you got the weapons you Mather had many McBride.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Oh yo, but I told people, Yo, he's small, not
just in height but way Yeah. Yeah, he's compact. You're
taking those hits like that.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Man, you ever seen him in person?
Speaker 9 (22:52):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
He he that's that's the dog.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
He literally.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
We could play some ball though. Man, he's exciting. He's exciting.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
You know when when put in the right position to
make make make plays, he can do it. He just
hasn't been able to do it consistent enough. And we're
able to do it consistent enough. It makes everything everyone
around you better, It makes your team better, It gives
you a chance, and it just it just hasn't been
what they thought it would but.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
He just need to leave. He needs to go somewhere else.
You know, maybe maybe maybe maybe it's a situation where
they're tired of him, he's tired of them. It just
needs a clean break. He just needs a clean break.
He's his own he's his own guy. You know, he
has a he has a personality that's kind of looked different.
He wants to do things his way. He don't want
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to you know, Hey, that's how he did it. That's
how he did it. This is how I'm gonna do it.
But I saw this. I saw this coming, and I'm
not and I'm not I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
He's Do you think about him going back to baseball?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
No, not being away from it? This loan. You gotta
go back to the Why would I go back to
the baseball go back to the minor leagues and make
twelve hundred dollars a month? Hell to the noll somebody
go paying thirty five forty million to be the quarterback
in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Should we eat?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Okay? I mean just just because he's not starting in Arizona,
that doesn't mean he's not. Oh Joe, you mean to
tell me he can't play for New Orleans, he can't
play for the Raiders. He's better than what they got
in the Raiders. He's better than what they got at
New Orleans. Is he better than what they got at
the Jets? Yes?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Or no?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Situation matters on it does. What you have around you
is very very important, very important.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I don't care what situation. Is he better than what
they got in New Orleans. And he's better way they
got it the Raiders, And he's better what they got
in the Jets.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
He is? He just is.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I don't know about anything else. Hell, I'm tempted to
say he's better what they got in Cleveland. You don't think, oh, chat,
y'all don't think he better than Dylan Gabriel. So y'all
said he ain't better than Justin Fields. He's not better
than Spencer Rala or what what's a.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Tyler Shook?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
He not better than Shook. He not better than than
picking and Geno. Okay mm hmm, okay, y'all don't think y'all.
Don't y'all don't. Uh So somebody say he ain't better
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than what they got in New Orleans. He ain't better
than Spencer Rala. Tyler shook.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Okay, I'm reading my check going fast. God damn trying
to read it.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Hey, somebody said I'm so unprofessional.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I was never a professional in the first place. Somebody
talking about I'll take rattle over him.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Not gonna lie, you lie, They lying, They definitely lie.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
The man. The man is down now.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
But yeah, y'all not taking no Spencer Rattler, No Tyler
shuk over, no over no, uh, Kyler Murray, You're not
so stop it. Jane. Daniels won't be placed on our
but there are reportedly wide range of outcomes for when
he could return to the field. According to Jeremy Filer,
the commanders are really playing this by ear. So this
(26:35):
is actually a pretty complicated cause. Because I'm told Daniels
could potentially be back in three weeks. I said to
to four weeks. Anyway, after three weeks on that elbow issue,
not gonna need surgery most time unless something is really
really wrong. They're not. They're not doing surgery on it,
just location. They're not putting much injury reserve right now.
(26:56):
But talk to talking to the team people, as a
player could return in about five six weeks. Things here
really fast, depending on when they revealit around the bye
week in about two and a half three weeks. If
they're sitting at three and eight, this could certainly be
a factor here. And so they're really playing this one
by ear. Yeah, I think, like I said, I don't
like I said, I don't know. All I could say
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it based it on mine and I had to do this.
All you think about, I gotta have to block with it.
I ain't got to block with that. And it's on
his non throw it's on his non throwing But the.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Cost is thing.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
That the one thing that scares me on even though
it's on this non throwing arm, there wasn't any ligament damage.
Let's say since out two three weeks, if their record
is no is no, it doesn't improve it. It's not
for you know, there's no point in rushing back. There's
no point in rushing back. And I think this will
probably be his last game played this season because there's
really nothing to play for at that point.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
You're out the playoffs. Know, you need to risk any
further injury or or re injuring or getting yourself hurt,
you know, at that point, and you just you pray,
you pray, yourself the next season. That that that's just
me now. Now the command this might feel differently.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Uh, being the competitor that I know Jaydon Daniels is,
he might feel differently regards to what our record is.
I want to get out there and play, but hey,
I don't think I don't think he should chance it,
especially if there's no chance at making the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I agree. I said the same thing about your quarterback
in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
But why you keep bringing up the Bengals.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
God, ain't no chance to go? Well, we're bringing Joe
back for us.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, he wouldn't come back anyway. So if we if
we don't have a chance, he wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Be coming back.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
But the fact that we have flag up when Flack
was playing the way he's playing, we probably will be
in the playoffs. We're probably gonna y'all play.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Oh, y'all will bye week? Oh y'all, Yeah, y'all just
gave y'all about to give up forty two. Hey, nobody
give up forty two.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
We will see who Well.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Y'all they're gonna beat y'all. Y'all not gonna y'all not
going to beat the Steelers, y'all not gonna beat what
you call them again, Y'allan.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
You mean the same Steelers you used to mean, the
same Seaers we beat Thursday night, a Sunday night, the
same thing.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
You're not gonna do it again, though, Okay, not gonna happen,
Not gonna happen. Okay, definitely not gonna be Lamar in
the Ravens, y'all could be. Y'all couldn't beat them when
they had Lamar and your had Joe.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
You just listen. It's the NFL. It's Sunday, any given Sunday,
it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
And so it don't matter when y'all play. You're right,
any given Sunday, Saturday, Thursday, y'all gonna y'all can lose
if you do most of the time.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
All right, keep that same energy, got it? Keep that
same energy?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Oh what's the little man?
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I'm good. I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I saw how the Ravens look coming out the by.
I saw how the Ravens. The Ravens look good coming
out that by. Lamar Jackson back from injury after two
three weeks down, came.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Out on fire.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
So how you think we gonna come out out the
by how you think Flacco and Ono and Chase and
Chase Brown, how you think we gonna look coming out
to by?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
The defense?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Is the defen is going to improve exponentially. That's a
big word for me. Exponentially. I can't even spell that.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
But I can say no. But guess what Ojo I watched.
Go go back and look at it. Go back and
look at Chicago's movie. Y'all guys off the ball?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the game. The game
is won and lost in it upfront. It's one of
the trenches.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
And that was that was ugly with Joe. That was
ugly was Darvin Ham said. The Lakers had to put
their roster, had to cut their roster for Russell Westbrook.
And that's hard to compete with so many level so
many lower level role players. But in terms of russ Man,
you know, it was a difficult situation because to get
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a player like that, you pretty much have to cut
your team. And that's essentially what happened. In order to
get russ on the Lakers, they had to part ways
with Caruso, KCP, Kyle Kuzman and a lot of other
players they weren't able to keep because the money wasn't there.
Now you've got essentially three Max super Max players on
your roster, and you know, now you've got to go
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after lower level players who God bless them, they're capable players.
But to be elite, and when a championship in our league,
you have to be elite and have elite groups. A
lot of times that financial constraints just won't allow you
to do that.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, I just I just came to understanding that.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I just came to having a better understanding of that,
especially when it comes to basketball. How your bench, you know,
having it, having a deep bench and being able to
have some of your starters sit down and still not
miss a beat.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
It's still not miss any.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Momentum, you know, when they're not in the game. I
think about the bench. Oklahoma City Thunder, they have an
unbelievable bench. If I'm not if I'm not mistaken, they
might have the best bench in the league. Yes, correct
me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
They do.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, I mean, like so I understand and I didn't
view it like that. I didn't understand it. I didn't.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I didn't understand why people are complaining about getting Westbrook.
You know, I'm thinking, oh, hell they fine, Oh they're
finna run the table. It's finna be crazy. And then damn,
the bench is horrible. The supporting cast wasn't good enough
to carry the load. When all the starters weren't in
h you always had to keep one of said top
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three players in the game at at at at some point,
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I forgot nobody that much. Nobody thought Russ would work
with Lebron in LA except the Lakers. You won't find
one player in order for Russ to work. Russ needs
the ball, and you need to build the ball get
the team around him. This is not to take anything
away from Russ. Russ is a seventy is a top
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seventy five player all time, he's an MVP, a two
time all start all the NBA. But he wasn't good
with the Lakers. And it's okay to say that, Yeah,
him and le Bron just wasn't gonna work, because neither
one is really. Lebron is made. It was better off
the ball than Russ. Russ is not a catch and
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shoe guy, and so when you need it with Lebron,
Lebron was gonna be the primary ball handler. You need
somebody that can catch and shoot. That's why he would
have been So that's why Klay Thompson would have been great.
That's why when you see him play with Steph it's
so great because those guys can catch and shoot. That's
not Russ. What Russ is. Russ is a guy that
needs the ball and he needs to be able to
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get downhill. Well, if Lebron's got the ball, how's he
gonna get downhill? It's okay, Chad, this is not a
knock on Russ. And then when you say this, this
is not taking away anything that he's ever accomplished. He
wasn't good with the Lakers. Y'all know that, but I
guess because he's from LA and he does great in
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the community and he is a solid teammate. Nobody has
anything bad to say about Russ. He just wasn't good
with the Lakers. It's okay. You see when he was
in in in and uh okayc after after uh KD left,
they built the team around him. That's what you need.
(34:14):
It's okay, Darvin, and please stop talking about it.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
You had what for whatever reason, it didn't work. It
didn't work with you, It didn't work with Russ. It
didn't it didn't work. It's okay, it's okay to move on.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, somebody put somebody probably asked him the question.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, but but but but just like, hey, guys, look,
I enjoyed my time there. I understood the assignment. When
you got a team and you got Lebron James and
you got Anthony Davis, no matter who else expect, no
matter who else is on that team, championships is what expected.
I don't I don't get why they did. I don't
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get why they broke that team up, why they wouldn't
re sign Caruso where they left all their perimeter defenders.
They let that go. It's the same thing.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Now.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
The Lakers are not a good defensive team.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
But we gotta stop this notion. And it's not bagging
on Russ, but Russ needs a Russ needs to be
in a system that's conducive for him. And that's okay.
It's just they just man, they just he ha.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
He having a good time over there in Sacramento.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Now, yes, but that y'all, they're not gonna win. Sacrament
will have no championship aspirations. He's not winning, no championship.
And it's okay, It's okay. Got me think about time
(35:47):
h Russ. Look, Russ played Russ. Look that one thing
you can say about Russ. He's not gonna cheat you
with effort. He's gonna give you everything he got. He's
gonna play hurt, he's gonna play hard. But we this
this notion that Russ bald out in La.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
He didn't.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
It just the pieces didn't fit on your The pieces
just didn't fit him. And Lebron was never gonna work.
The only people that thought it was gonna work was
probably Plinka and Lebron, or because I'm sure Lebron had
something to do with this. He did, he did, but
(36:31):
it just it didn't work. It's not the first time,
that's not the first situation that's been in the NBA
and it didn't work. And that's okay. It's not the
last situation that that won't work. But Darvin needs to
move on with this man. It's just.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
I don't I don't know what he what he holds
to accomplish by revisiting this. Sja said he wasn't a
fan of how the Thunder won the title. Arson speaking,
I didn't like the way we won the title, if
that makes sense. I don't think we won a m
Beach Championship playing our best basketball. We were definitely more
dominant in the regular season than the postseason. And for
me as well as a player, I don't think that
(37:14):
was good in the postseason as I am in the wreck,
as I was in the regular season.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I mean, the game is different than the postseason too.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
They don't let you get up and down.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, they don't.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
You play better teams in a series, it's not you know,
they get seven games to try to figure you out.
It's not like, Okay, you play Sacramento, then you're on
the San Antonio, then you got the Clippers. Okay, guess what.
We got a home we got a back to back.
We got Clippers one night, we got the Lakers the
next night. No, you got that one opponent. And you
gotta you know, because they went seven games with then others.
They went seven games with the Pacers and Aaron Gordon.
(37:51):
If Aaron Gordon doesn't hurt his hamstring in that game set,
what happened? Okay? If Halliburton doesn't tear the key leads
in games in game seven, what happen? I can get it. Yeah,
they look and right now they're doing that. I think
they've lost one game and they're doing this without Jdubb.
So I like his mentality. I like his mindset. It's
(38:12):
like I will I want to be dominant. I want
to be dominating in the postseason like I was in
the regular season, even though there was first that he
was sensational. But they won, And that's that's what you need.
You need your best player to say, you know what,
I ain't satisfied, and I don't want anybody else to
get satisfied. I want anybody else to get comfortable. Yeah,
we won a championship, but I ain't here to just
win one, multiple multiple multiple. And now they got Hartenstein
(38:38):
had thirty three and nineteen last night. Well if you
if you're getting thirty three and nineteen from Hartenstein, you're
not beating them. Hey, you're not beating them.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Hartenstein is the center.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
He's a five.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Right, Yeah, that's that's that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Man hadn't played yet.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
And when Jdubb does play, here the foe, right, J
Dob is.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
The two.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
That's all mm hmm him and look, I mean they
lou Dort is like really the two. But he's really
a two. He played a small forward. Because they go Hartenstein,
they go Check, they go jadeb, they go lou Dort,
they go shape and them.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Oh well in person, but them boys so tall man?
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yeah, god damn yeah.
Speaker 7 (39:27):
But uh.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
I like.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
I like Shaane's mentality. I like his attitude. I like
the fact that like, yeah, we won, but I ain't
happy how we won.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
No, man, that should have been a hoop of man.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
An anonymous scout, Oh, your anonymous scout says, LaMelo Ball
doesn't take basketball seriously. Yes, he's talented, but he doesn't
take basketball seriously enough. Another West scout said it's hard
to build a winner with him because of how he
plays and the liberties he takes for himself when he plays.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
So because I don't know, because he plays, he plays
the game with flair. He plays the game a little
bit more free than others.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Tell me, tell me the person that in the history
of the game, that's what played with Flair in.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
One Jordan magic, Jordan magic, Kobe.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
That stuff that he's that stuff he's doing and they
didn't play like that. No, you looking at elevating above
the rim? Now magic with the passes and stuff like that.
But they didn't play like that. I mean, he tried
all kinds of stuff on the court, step back shooting
thirty two footers. Oh, but they be going in.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Huh, Hey, they be going in. Hey, he be going hey. Listen,
he's exciting to watch. He's exciting to watch.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Now, his style of play might might not be that
of what NBA scouts would like, you know, from from
their point guard and from the person that's handling the ball.
But I'll tell you one thing as a fan of
the game, he's exciting to watch. He's the type of field.
But he's gonna put bust in the seat. Now, maybe
you want to tell him to tone it down. Jason
Wye was the same way white chocolate. White Chocolate was
(41:05):
the same way with that goddamn ball. Unbelievable, especially with
the passes and stuff. And if I'm not mistaken, I
heard the stories about once he was here with the
Miami Heat. It was like, hey man, you got to
you got to cut all that out. You got to cut,
you gotta cut Yeah, you gotta cut all that out.
But listen, if they don't want him where he's at,
sit him on down, hit us, then and.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Plus he don't plus he and Charlotte, you people say,
well Badgic had the flair? So which player that is
LaMelo playing with? That's Kareem or James Worthy, right, or
Bob McAdoo or Jamal Wilts or Michael Cooper. So I
just want to did which one of those guys? So
maybe it has something to do with it and being and.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Charlotte, Yeah, tell you take him out the equation. Who
you going to watch?
Speaker 3 (41:48):
No disrespect body, my point, my point exactly, nobody, my
point exactly. And he's not even the type of player
that plays above the rim. So the fact that he
brings all those other qualities to his game that makes
it fun to come watch and sit down that listen,
that that lets.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
You know how good he is. He's he's a phenomenal talent.
But he don't play defense. So now you're going to
turn the ball over and now you're not gonna play defense.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Yeah, yeah, you you you minimize those turnovers, you'll be
all right, you'll be right.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
But they don't.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
It's like you go, look you look at the team
that want you look at ok see, they got like
six seven guys that play defense. So they're never gonna
be on the court without like three solid defenders. Y'all.
You know you got Chet defending the paint. You got
lou Door own ball, you got j will on ball,
you got a you got Case Caruso. I mean, you
(42:41):
just got guy. They just run guy up, the guy up,
the guy off, the guy at you.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
And you know it Also, when I think about it,
when it comes to players that are heavily dominant on
the offense, on the offensive side of all, for what
they lack on defense, they make up on offense in
other areas, in other areas where most were most were
some you get some players that are kind of balancing both,
but they're not as good, you know, on the officer end.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
I think the thing is O Joe. But here's the
problem that you run into because now you're getting a
nip and tuck game. If you go watch what did
what did Minnesota do? They keep Luke in the pick
and roll. If great as he is offense, we want
you on defense. Now what you gonna do? And they
get whatever they want. They get a lay up, they
get a file, they get an easy jumper. See, that's
(43:28):
the problem that you run into because at some point
in time. Now, you ain't gonna just blow people out.
So you can't have three four guys on the court
that don't play defense. Can because in a close ball game,
they're gonna get whatever. They're gonna get whatever shot they want.
(43:54):
But unfortunately, I don't know Carolina not I mean, Charlotte
not gone trading.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Trade him if you want to, I'll tell you he's
the only guy I.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Can come to see trading. Uh oh oh, your time
to play Play of Fade presented by Prize Picks. Here's
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(44:34):
Alec pears more than three receptions versus the Falcons in Berlin.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Oh so hey, they play in Berlin tomorrow. Yeah, so
the game come on what six thirty, six thirty, seven thirty,
which one?
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Probably nine your No, it'll be nine your time, right, yeah,
nine thirty your time.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, I'll catch.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
You the second half hitting them six thirty. Hell no,
I catch it. I catch the second half.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
I'm trying trying to think.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Titters finally got on his clock. He like, oh they
set the clocks back on. Yeah they did.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
James Cook more than eighty seven yards rushing against the Dolphins.
Speaker 9 (45:17):
More more?
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yeah, oh, Alex, how many receptions here? Gonna have four receptions?
Alex Pearce, Yeah yeah, of course, of course, of course
you get the catches.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
He got, he gonna get more than four.
Speaker 7 (45:29):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Now they just got rid of.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. So so those targets are gonna
go to go to piers Or and Pittman.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Oh yeah, okay, we're going more James Cook. Oh, he
getting more than eighty seven against the Dolphins. Yeah. Ric
o'dondell more than one hundred and ten total yards rushing
and receivers versus the Saints.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Man, anything with Rico down in it is up.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yep. I like that more. Isaiah likely more than three receptions.
He needs to have three receptions or more against the Biking.
Of course, that's it. Hey, you come on against you,
come on, you come on, nightcap. Oh you're about to
ball out. Every time, you about to ball out. Everybody
twenty five dollars to win, one hundred and fifty dollars
(46:21):
downloaded afterday use coach Shannon. That's coach Shannon. To get
fifty dollars in lineups after you play your first five
dollars lineup. It's good to be right. All right, We're
gonna get you out of here on this one time.
For our final segment of the evening, It's time for
Q and A or Yo Hudlum. Ryan Williams need to
(46:51):
transfer to Old.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Miss Absolutely not. He'll be all right. You're gonna be
all right.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
JJ Carver, Johnny on here looking like weekend at Bernie's. Yeah,
Thomas Baby. Two questions for you guys. Where does Omar
Cooper's catch back up with other pass catchers in both
college and the NFL and SOCCA? Do you do you
see any I U players making it to the NFL? Well,
the quarterback is a high rated prospect. A lot of
(47:23):
people say he might be the first pick of the
drown Look Indiana adduct. I mean, I'm trying to think
of top Indiana players. The only one I can really
think off the top of my head is Anthony Thompson.
He came out with me. It was a running back.
You know, any Indiana players football.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Player with an Antoine Randall elgo.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
I think he might have went an I might.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
I might be wrong. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
I might.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
I might be wrong, But I thought I thought it
might have been Indian. I could be wrong.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
He might have did.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I can't. I can't remember.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
I just.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
I know I can't. My year Anthony Thompson came out. Yeah,
Anton Antoine Randall little did.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
Go to Yeah, that's that's that's the only person I remember.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
That's not what they're known for. But that was an
unbelievable catch, given the circumstances, given what was needed, and
the dB was trying to push him out of bounds
and for him to get a foot down, do hey, quarterback, Sai,
I'm gonna put it right up under the gold post.
You go get it, and he won, got it?
Speaker 2 (48:29):
That was dope.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
And they also now, y'all don't get no Pennises Junior
Pennich Junior graduated from what you call him Washington mm hmmm.
Don't do that. People try because because uh, Ohio State,
don't get Jameson Williams. Ohio State, don't get Joe Burrow
because that's not where he finished his career at what
(48:50):
if you tried, But if you tried to thank you,
Mark quinnzfe McDuffie said, Oh, Joe, ash, what are your
three favorite college football catchers ever? Ever?
Speaker 2 (49:07):
That's hard. Ever, Yeah, that's that's difficult.
Speaker 6 (49:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
You you should have came by better asking about the NFL.
Speaker 5 (49:17):
Bad.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Yeah, in the NFL, I say it's some really good
Chris Carter, Brandon Lloyd, Chris Carter.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Any catch Brandon Lloyd made, people don't repeople don't forgot
about brain. Can you imagine Brandon Lloyd with the with
the gloves today on Joe Man, please, man, please. People
think fist, people think fist and CC. But Brandon Lloyd
making catches. I'm like this dude catching. I'm talking about
the ball on the ground. He catching the ball on
(49:49):
the ground like this.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yeah, yeah, even nice. Brandon was nice boy.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Oh and what oh he put it one hand like catching.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
He got he got multiple one hands though, he does.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
And I got an opportunity to see him in in
Denver a lot, you know, in the forty nine ers. Yeah, man,
he was Alec b thank you anthing. You're for giving
us the best podcast to watch and listen to. Alex,
thank you for watching Tino Davis. We need Jeremiah Smith
(50:23):
on the show. Well, if you know how we can
get in contact with then we'd absolutely love to have
him on the show.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
I can call him.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Nick marsh Your talking about running for prayers, fixing the debt,
and no government shut down. Been on two years, child,
Please I agree.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
Hey, you you heard what he's said. I've been on
you two years. But why wouldn't we be shut down?
We wouldn't be shut down because of the very fact
that I want to make sure everything stays up and
running the correct way.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Well, I'm realizing we was up and running short the way.
You know them premium about to go up, right, Yeah,
Family of Ford is playing about five hundred dollars in
pre insurance per month, about to be two two thousand
dollars a month. You know what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
You know, listen, they know what they're doing. This is
all the game, This is always this is all a part.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (51:14):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I don't want to make this a political podcast. I
could get into that, but I don't want to get
into that.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
People don't need to see that side of me because
that that's that's that's really that's really not my thing.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
That's not my thing. But I just know what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Yeah, true, And then from a seventy three, if you
if you're a Laker, fan and the Laker lost, you
can't say basket or ball. I didn't see the game tonight.
Did they lose?
Speaker 3 (51:40):
Yep, So that means you can't say basket or ball.
Matter of fact, you can't see any.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Talking to basketball right now. It's football season. Go wife's
tape before y'all speak, O Jay Rod, matter of fact,
go watch te t Texas takes defense. The fuck Johnny
talk about nobody pop out or tape top five defense? Well,
you know what, you know? The thing is they're gonna
(52:06):
have to make a decision here in the next next month. Yeah,
I just don't know, Like I said, a defensive player
winning that award and now it's as good a time
as any to win it because the ain't nobody having
a Joe Burrow type season. Ain't nobody having a Bard
Sanders tax season. Ain't nobody having a Devonte Smith type
(52:27):
season or Travis right.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
I don't think people understand how special you have to
be as a.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Defensive player in college to be considered for a Heisman
just because he's saying people popping out on film. Because collectively,
as a whole, you guys have a good defense, it's
always one person and that one person always rises to
the occasion regards to who you plan consistently weekend and
week out. Not playing a great as a whole as
(52:53):
a unit. What's about one individual? Yeah, all over the place,
popping out on film, no matter who the f they plan.
There's a huge difference in that. That is not in
college football today.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
It's not Remember when Leavar Arrington was playing.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Yeah, Julius Peppers, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
I mean I'm like that, that type of popping out
every week. Oh, I got to watch this MF play.
I got to turn the TV on because so and
so is playing today. Now, it ain't nothing like that
out there.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
On defense, and one.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
Hundred plus year history of the NFL, there have been
two defensive guys to win MVP as a defensive player,
Lawrence Taylor and Alan Page. And now two guys one
Charles Woodson was a primarily defensive player, Travis Hunter, back
(53:52):
and forth. So they've been having the Heisman Trophy since
what nineteen thirty six, I think that's the pole. I
think Jay Bird Wanger was the first win to win
the award in thirty six. I think that's also the
pole era Jay Bird Wanger. So how many defensive players.
And so now you say, now, after all these guys, Uh,
(54:15):
Derrek Thomas with twenty five sacks, he didn't win it.
Teddy Brusk had twenty plus sacks, he didn't win it. Yeah,
Tarah Suggs had twenty four sacks, he didn't win it.
Speaker 5 (54:29):
Downtown Club, Damn.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
It would have. Yeah, I just know it's that. I
don't even think it's at the Downtown that is it
still at the Downtown for the club they still hold
it there.
Speaker 5 (54:49):
I think it was.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
Uh, I just look like I said, it's just like,
it's just so hard for a defensive player to win
that award when when the game has been hated to
so much offense.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
But but you know, even though the game has been
catered to the offense, that's how you have to be
that special as a defensive player to even be considered
to win it.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Though.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
And it's still it's still possible.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
Okay, it's still it's still possible. It's still possible. TJ.
Watt had twenty two and a half sacks. Did he
win the award?
Speaker 2 (55:20):
Absolutely?
Speaker 7 (55:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Michels Strahead had twenty two and a half sacks. Did
he win the award? It's hard for a primarily defensive player.
It's a linebacker, a middle Now if you maybe an
edge rusher, he gets twenty five thirty sacks on Joe. Okay,
now we own the something. Now you got to hold
a quarterback go throw for five thousand and fifty touchdowns.
(55:43):
It's if a defensive player is gonna win, it probably
be the year two winning o Joe, because they really
nobody just like like, h look at me, look at me,
look at me. There are really no offensive guy out
there like that. Yeah, who you say, Jeremiah Smith might
get a might get a trip to a New York
I'm not so sure. He's not the best player in
(56:04):
the country.
Speaker 2 (56:05):
Listen, if he can come out this year, he'll be
number one.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
He came out last year, he might have been.
Speaker 3 (56:11):
Might have been number one. Yeah, well uh yeah, hey,
hold on, think about it. They needed to change that rule, man,
because he should be.
Speaker 2 (56:25):
Coming out this year.
Speaker 1 (56:27):
The fact they even had, they should have traded it
for Adrian Peterson and Hersha Walker because they damn sure
could have came out as freshman.
Speaker 2 (56:33):
Oh well they were. They were different, man, Yeah, and
it was grown men amongst boys.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
But you know what, at least he getting to make
four five million dollars a year. He got a little
something for in his pocket. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then
you know he take it out a bigger He probably
got a twenty million dollar Lawyers of London, maybe even
more Laws of London policy.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
He's gonna be nice, man, he'd be all right, me nice.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of
night Cap. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite
shatter Sharp and that is my partner in co hosts.
Speaker 3 (57:08):
Hey, matter of fact, I know we're in in the show.
Goddamn we started the show. I'm I'm peeking down on
my phone while we're talking college football trying to see
the goddamn ericson Lubin and Virgil Ortiz fight.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
Man fight. Last goddamn in and out fight was over.
Speaker 1 (57:25):
Ortiz got him out of there and.
Speaker 3 (57:27):
Got him out of that, got him out of there,
got him out of there, and so him nine not Boots.
Boots and Ortiz at some point are gonna fight, and
that might be the biggest fight in a long time
for me.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
I mean, obviously Connelo Carnelo Carford was big, but.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
A no, ain't it ain't gonna be bigger than Bud
and Canelo.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
No no, no, not that big, but it's it's the biggest.
It's gonna be the biggest after that to me.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
We want to thank our special college analysts for joining
us the night Johnny Manzil as well. Please make sure
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to thank Johnny for joining us and a Keen Mesador
who had an outstanding night tonight for the um as
they beat Syracuse. He had four tackles, a sack and
a half, so he played extremely well. Alabama beats LSU
by the score of twenty to nine. Texas Say It
(58:57):
M beat Missouri thirty eight seventeen. Fernando Mendoza threw a
touchdown pass with thirty six seconds left on the clock
as they rally to beat Penn State twenty seven to
twenty four. The number sixteen Vanderbilt Commodoores won in overtime
keep their slim playoff hopes alive by the score of
forty five thirty eight over Auburn. Gonna Stockton threw three
(59:21):
touchdown passes as the number five Georgia Bulldogs beat Mississippi
State Bulldogs by the score of forty one to twenty one,
and Texas Tech number eight. Texas Tech beat number seven
BYU twenty nine to seven to remain unbeaten and strengthen
their push for the college playoffs. In Oregon on a
field goal with three seconds left on the clock by
(59:42):
Atticus Sappington of thirty nine yards win eighteen to sixteen.
Thank you guys for joining us tonight. We'll see you
tomorrow after the game. It's green Bay and Philly. Right
after the green Bay Philly game on Sunday night, I'm
Uncle o Cho. We'll see you tomorrow for all things NFL.
Thanks you wanting goes. We're out
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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.