Nightcap - Unc & Ocho react to Dak & Cowboys dominating Commanders, 49ers class of NFC, Teyana-Iman drama - Club Shay Shay

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All the teams that won their quarterbacks played really well today.
They made that were very very impressive. Green Bay was
very very impressive. We're going to get to them a
little later. But let's talk about the see talks into
forty nine ers. They went out there, the forty nine

(04:02):
ers dead, got the ball, goes right down the field,
score touchdown, and they didn't look back. So what was
coming some of your takeaway from this ball game?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
All right? My first takeaway forgets that forgets what the
forty nine ers did today as a whole. As far
as the game is concerned, the forty nine ers team
collectively is almost unfair when everybody is healthy. Deebo I
U Trent Williams and on defense that secondary Davis Ward Ye,
everything else they got going on. They had everybody and

(04:33):
got damn clamps. And it is to me in comparison.
For me, I'm not even a basketball fan, but I
remember hearing all the grice about people, let's say, comparison
to the Golden State Warriors when they had Kevin Durant,
where it was almost fair from obviously now from an
offensive standpoint, but also the defense and just as good.
So when you think about the forty nine ers, for

(04:55):
me specifically, when I think about the forty nine ers,
every team in the NFL has an identity. Offense is
great or your defense is great. It's never both. But
when it comes to the guy damn forty nine ers,
on both sides of the ball, they are equally as
yoke and it's almost unfair. If they don't win the
Super Bowl this year, then something is wrong. They look
they look really good. They brikely Man Purty. Obviously you

(05:17):
said he was twenty one for thirty for twenty nine yards.
He had a TV unfortunate, unfortunate interception. Dem Debo Sammis
was the animal man. He was the animal today and
picked up where he left off after he obviously he's
been back a few games due to injury that he had.
I don't like the fact they didn't use Brandon nay
enough enough today and uh he was kind of left out.

(05:38):
He had a touchdown. I like to consider that. I
call that garbage time. I can see that garbage time.
Other than that, man, that's crazy. I don't even know
what to say about the forty nine ers because I
see no weakness in that team unless people are injured.
When people are injured, then it doesn't it doesn't look
too good. It doesn't fair off fair off as well

(05:59):
as it does when everybody.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well you know, the great equal lives to come playoff
time as injuries or turnovers and as long as they
take care of And the game probably got a little
closer than what it should have been, considering that they
had that pick six right right at the midway through
the third quarter, and you know see how the mister
field go right before the half that that really hurt him.
But when you look at the forty nine ers, the
way they can run the football now with Christian McCaffrey,

(06:23):
you mentioned Dee Bow, George Kittle, Brandon Ayuk, semac in
the passing game. Deebo offensive line is solid. Yeah, and
when Party plays like this, because the thing is with
him and if you watch him, you got to make
him uncomfortable. You got to make him make every throw,

(06:44):
every possession matter if you let him get out and
he can relax, because man, that throw to Ayuk with
that half roll and throw back that deep bang. Man,
oh Joe, you can't walk a ball better to a
player than what he did twenty five yards away. That
was That was that semi role. That was an unbelievable throw,

(07:05):
great catch, get the ball into the end zone. But
you're right, I thought, I thought Kyle Shahan did a
great job of calling the game. Run sprinkling Christian McCaffrey
on the arrow route out of the backfield. Run some
more a we're gonna talk to the debo. The forty
nine ers went in there, and that's what you do
on a short week against a division opponent. You go in,

(07:26):
you get them down early, you take care of business.
And now we got ten Now we got we don't
play for ten days. So guess what you're off. I
understand you probably was away from your families on Thanksgiving,
but guess what you got Friday, Saturday and Sunday off
o cho Oh yeah he so you're probably gonna have Thanithsgiving.
Most of these players will probably have Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Tomorrow when they get home tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yep, but guess what now, Hey, baby, Hey, I got
two days off. I see y'all Monday. Kyle probably have
to do it like Mike. You'll probably come in Monday
by noon. Get your run in, get your lift in.
Watch the take. Hey, we're getting ready, getting ready for
next week.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Listen, they ready, they ready, and they deserve it. They deserve,
they deserve they have those days off. The defense the
defense had for they had six sacks a night. Yes,
both again two sacks. I mean with their ar man
I just yeah, hard Gray, Hardgrave as well. With what
they're doing on both sides of the ball is commendable.
It's commendable. And most of the time I've seen Shanahan
continuously continuously have great success in the off season, great

(08:24):
success I mean off season, great success in season. But
come playoff time, can they still keep this momentum going
with both sides of the ball they're playing, Except you
will and you mentioned about making Rock Purty uncomfortable. But
when I watch him in the pocket, he looks so relaxed,
he looks so poised. He looks like someone that belongs there.
And he's been doing it for a very long time,

(08:46):
so the rush doesn't phase him, the blissing doesn't phase him,
and he always has those outlets for him to make
sure they stay efficient offensively.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, they look good. They look good, and that's what
you want to see. I think right now, I think
it's the Eagles when you really look at it. We're
talking about this after we get through. But the Eagles
and the forty nine ers and followed by the Cowboys
seem to be the cream of the crop in the NFC.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Give that.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
It seems to be the scene. It seems to be
the cream of the crop right now. The Eagles, they
haven't been as dominating as they were last year. But
all I know, O Joe, is they find a way
to win the ball games. And at the end of
the day, time when you cannot, when you don't play
your best football, and you still find ways to win
as long as you're not making the mistakes, because that's

(09:33):
what's Hey, Look, we're not running the football as well,
we're not. But as long as you're not turning it over.
You could say a block here, miss block, Hey, we
get this block. We got a instead of a five
yard run, we got a twenty five yard run. Instead
of a fourteen yard run, we got a twenty yard touchdown.
Those are things that you can overcome. But I like
the way they're playing. But the forty nine ers, the
forty nine ers look really impressive today. The Cowboys dominate

(09:55):
the Commander's forty five teams. Hey, Dak Prescott twenty two
or thirty two, three, thirty one clean game turnovers, touchdown,
the CD Lamb, Brandon Cooks, Rico Ddell, Kvon Turpin, Cavante Turpin.
Excuse me. Cowboys are now eight and three, won five
of the last six. What let me take Dak that

(10:18):
started the game when he when he hit when he
hit Ferguson against that town for two. Yeah, you can't
throw a ball better than that over the middle to
start the game. I mean, that's what happened. He sticking
to stop. Come on, that's why that. Come on, now,
come on you no good, well, come on, let's have it.
Let's have it. Let's have Look. I understand you want

(10:39):
to troll a little bit, But let's have a real conversation.
So you're saying Dak is elite, you.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Know, God damn well, le didn't you just talk about
that throw he just made so not very many throw?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Hold on, stop it Stopima. You said throw throw make
you e leak.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
You just mentioned a throw that Dak made that only
the elite quarterbacks can do. Consistently. Let's let's stay, Let's stay.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Don't have consistently? Have you seen him go deep into
the playoffs consistently? Have you not seen him lead the
league interception consistently?

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Talking about the day, that's that's the past, right, we
talked about.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
That's not what we talk.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
About the game of day day.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Hold up the game.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, Dak had a phenomenal game, yes, but for thirty
two for three?

Speaker 2 (11:30):
What you want to do?

Speaker 1 (11:31):
You want to try to troll. So I gotta take
it down because I want to make sure you give
Dak his flowers. I'm gonna make sure you give it
to him today.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Bro, are you listening? Oh yo? Instead of trying to
get the fan, I understand you want to get the
people on your side. But I said, Dak he played.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
With I know, and I know you like that.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I like that too. I like when the cheer for you.
That means they're gonna come to nightcap because we're gonna
give him. We're gonna give him something to laugh. We
talk about Dak twenty two to thirty two, three thirty
one four touchdown, clean, clean game, No clean, You can't
play much better than what he played. I saw one
throw got away from him and he did immediately My

(12:09):
bad because my bad legend that. But I could have
put that one on you. Clean game. Cowboys eight and three. Look,
they played the Giants twice. We know what the Giants said,
we know what the Commanders are, we know what the Patriots.
But the thing that I like the best about what
the Cowboys are doing when they're playing these teams that
they're better than, and they should beat the dominating them.

(12:31):
It's not a close ball game. See you beat Washington
seventeen to twenty, You beat Washington twenty three twenty when
you're so much better talent wise. Now I'm like, hold on,
what's going on? But when you beat a team forty
five ten, you beat a team forty to nothing, you
beat a team like they're beating them, It says that
you know what, guys, they're peaking, they're rounding into shape.

(12:53):
And I know it's against inferior competition, but what I
want to do is to see you guys and get
go wing. Now it's go time.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Inferior. Yeah, we fear inferior giants and this is that
the giants.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Stop this, Oh Joe, you know damn where all teams
are created equal, Stop saying that this is the NFL.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
All right, I could have sw I could have sworre them.
I could a swore the other fifty dudes on the
other side of the team regards what they're playing for
getting paid millions of dollars. That's the other words.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
So by your by your instamation, every quarterback in the
NFL is Patrick Mahomes because all the quarterbacks get paid,
all the quarterbacks, all the defensive lineman A Joint BOTSA
and Michael Parsons.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
So what are you saying? But I'm saying that's the
NFL is the best of the best is the guy
then one percent in the game. So to call that
team in ferior just because they're losing or they're below
five hundred the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
So all teams players are equal. Top the bottom.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Now you you know you know that.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
You just told me the forty nine ers with the
I don't see how they lose when you name all
the defensive players.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
The makeup of the players on the team is what
makes them that goddamn So the makeup of the Giants makeup?
Are the makeup of the Giants?

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Like that? Are the makeup like the Patriots? Like that?

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Are the makeup like the Commanders like that?

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Why not? You just said it? So you so what
is it? I need you to make up your mind.
You got to pick a side now because.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
You keep coming in and over the I'm not jumping
over the fence. I'm just telling you. It's the leader
of the elite. It's the best of the best. And
I just don't like the inferior comment because they are
still professional players playing at the highest level. They are
the one percent in the world, and.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
So all professionals are equal. So everybody in the NBA
or the Lebron James, because they're in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
You know, that's that's it's an individual, individual world.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
So every so every so every team in the NBA
at the time was the Golden State Warriors. Every team
in the NBA where the Chicago Bulls or the Los
Angeles Lakers because they're in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
No, I see who you're going with it. But you
understand what I'm saying. I don't. I I just I don't.
I don't like the word using the word inferior when
it comes to an opponents that is also a team
that is not well constructed to compete against the better teams.
I like that better. I don't like the word inferior.
A team that is not constructed to the magnitude of

(15:19):
the Cowboys happen to lose because the Cowboys have the
better players. I like that better. I don't like the
that makes it makes it it makes it sound like
they don't even belong in the NFL. I don't. I'm
just I'm just telling you. I don't like your word play.
I didn't like your word play on discussing the fact
that the team that are below five hundred of the
Cowboys have been able to beat that's all. That's all.

(15:39):
But you can you can continue, That's all. I just
don't like the word in theory.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
So so what so what would it may make?

Speaker 1 (15:44):
It makes him feel less than none to me?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Oo, all teams aren't created equals. Although you're in the
end of al there's a repair of starters. They're backups,
they're special teams players. A lot of times the guys
on a special team, and I started out on special teams.
I wasn't to the level that I needed to be
to become a starter. Once I became a starter, that

(16:07):
meant my play went up and I was able to
be a starter. Everybody, everybody isn't on that level. Even
though you're a starter, that doesn't mean I was a
starting tight end. But there are tight ends on other
teams that wasn't the equivalent. Or there's quarterbacks that's that
wasn't the equivalent of a start of a Patrick Mahomee
or even a Dak Prescott. But what I'm saying is

(16:28):
is that just because a team is constructed of fifty
three and now I think they have twenty practice squad guys,
it's not the same O ture. That's all I'm saying.
What you see, I get what you're saying. You saying, well,
you're saying that because you use the term inferior you,
I'm making it seem like guys don't belong No, they

(16:49):
belong you belong because you know, the NFL ain't no
charity case. Can you help us win? Can you help
us win now? Or do we believe you can help
us win down the road. That's how you get on
a roster. They've got to see something like, you know what,
he might be a year away, but I think if
I keep him in the system, I think this kid

(17:09):
can be good.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
So when I use the term no, it's not it's
not a knock to say, oh, this guy doesn't belong
in the league. You're in the league. You belong now.
There have been some guy that's kind of stolen over
here in the years, and they say, but that's neither
here nor there. But I'm just looking at the teams
that they beat and how they've beaten them. That's what
I'm looking at. Look like I said, it's not so

(17:32):
much o Joe that you win the game, but how
did you looking winning the game? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Go ahead, So I know you want to.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
I know you want to give this big blue quale
flowers to the Cowboys take off with it.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
That said the DA I said to that. So I
said to that, because the defense is gonna do what
the defense has been doing. Obviously, there have been some
trip ups there, there have been some games where they
have fallen, and that's that was my next question to you.
I wanted to ask you a question. What do you
think about the teams? Right we talked about the domination
of the Cowboys, and most of the team that they
dominated and played extremely well against have been teams below

(18:07):
five hundred, yeah, or maybe right at five hundred, and
the team that have winning records they haven't been able
to beat. So I want to know what is the
next step for the Cowboys and what do they need
to do to be the team that are above five
hundred that they should win, which is similar to playoff games.
What they're going to have to face in about three
or four more weeks.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Two of the teams that they beat, what do they
have outstanding offensive lines? You look at the forty nine ers,
you look at the Eagles they lost to the Cardinals,
have a couple of bad plays. The Cardinals play well
above what we've seen them play with Joshua Dobbs. Joshua Doobbs,
and we've seen Joshua Dobbs go to Minnesota and win
a couple of games, get hot and win some games.
The thing is is that what they were able what

(18:46):
Philly was able to do, the forty nine er was
able to do was the lock up that offensive line
and not let continuous pressure, not let sacks get the party,
not on get the Jalen Hurts. And on the flip side,
what were they able to do? Get the Dak Prescott
Eagle and the forty nine ers. So you've got to
be able to block their front. You got to. If
you can't block that front, you can't beat them. And

(19:08):
you've got to get Dak off that spot. Now, Dak
has done a great job. Dak has used his legs.
Mike McCarthy has done a great job calling the game.
He's moving him out of the pocket a lot more.
He's asking him, hey, bro, if it's not their takeoff,
we've got to put more pressure on the defense because
the last the last year and a half, people don't
think you run anymore. They don't think you and I
thought he looked lumbersome some of the time that when

(19:30):
he's taken off, But over the last couple of weeks,
Dak has looked good running the football. He looked like
he did pre injury before he broke that ankle. But
that's what you got to do against the Cowboys. You
got to find a way to neutralize their pressure. But
you've got to be able to get pressure. What the
forty nine Ers could run the football, Eagles ran the
football somewhat. But it's hard to really say, oh joe

(19:53):
when you're dealing with a division opponent. And that's why
I'll give cowboys credit also because of the division opponent.
No matter how bad they are, they usually give you
a little fight. And they gave them a little fight
for a little while. But you see the talent level
just rise to the top. And you see they take
off against the Giants. You see them take off against
the Commanders, and that's what you're supposed to do. But

(20:13):
the Cowboys look the Eagles to do what they did,
to go in there and basically be down the entire
game and arrowhead and find a way to win that game.
You saw the forty nine ers go on the road
against the division opponent in a short week and dominate
that game. You see the Cowboys, although they come home,
haven't trailed the entire season. They've been tied, but they

(20:33):
have a trail the entire season. Man that Hey, those
are the three best teams. And I think right now,
after watching Detroit to play, and we're gonna get into
that game a little bit. Oh yo, they're head and shoulders.
It's like Eagles. I would have Eagles, forty nine Ers, Cowboys.
Then down you go Detroit, you know, go other teams

(20:58):
like that, but right now goes Cowboys and the forty
nine ers up here, and no one else in the
NFC is close to those teams.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
What you think, I like it like, I mean, you're right,
you're right, you're right, use you're scurious. I was just
trying to think of what would be the next step
of the Cowboys. They play, so they play exceptionally well
in season, and they obviously in the first round they
obviously they falter. You know, things go wrong, They don't
go the way they should as opposed to how they
do like right now, And all I think about is

(21:26):
all the time people continuously harping and harping and harping
and harping and always saying, you know what, this is
our year, this is our this is our year, this
is our year. And this is one of the years
now that I'm doing stuff like this and show like
this with you now I'm paying attention to everything. I'm
paying attention to all teams, not just the damn Dolphins
and the Bengals. Obviously where I'm played it and obviously
where I grew up. Now I'm locked it on everybody.
I'm like, oh shit, right this this is good, and

(21:49):
I'm actually focusing on DK. I'm actually watching it. Well,
I always watch all the receivers, but now I'm watching
the totality of all games offensively and defensely, and so
I'm like, you know what, the way they look right now,
hind in the hell think she would have God damn ball,
I'm just the way I'm looking at the landscape of
everything to this point. If you keep this up. Obviously
the season, it's not a sprint, it's a marathon, and

(22:11):
you got to peek at the right time. The way
they got damn planned right now, I'm thinking after looking
at looking statistically, the team that they beat and demolished
have been below five hundred. So I was just curious
what your answer would be on what do they need
to do to beat those teams that are good like
the Eagles. Yeah, the team that they will face in
the NFC.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
They get the Eagles again, in their building. I think
they got Buffalo in their building. So we'll find out
a little bit more about the Cowboys at this point.
Oh sho. Look, we've seen Dak Prescott win a Rookie
of the Year, We've seen him have great regular season.
Now he's only going to be measured by the success

(22:49):
or non success that he has in the postseason. I
don't care if Dak throws for five thousand yards. Now,
he's got to get to the he's got to go
far in the playoffs because that's what he's up against.
Because what he's measured against is the other great quarterbacks
that won in Dallas, the other great quarterbacks that are

(23:10):
playing currently. So if you think about it, there's only
a hand. But I think it's Mahomes and Rogers are
the only quarterbacks that have MVPs. I think it's Mahomes
and Rogers are the only ones that have super Bowls.
Am I correct? Oh No, Jered got diy win, Matthew
Stafford won. So there's only like two or three quarterbacks

(23:30):
that have MVPs and super.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Bowls that are active that are active.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
So it's crazy, just Tomaginice. Now it's gonna change. It's
because they're not listening. At the end of the day,
you can say that defense and they're only gonna go
as far as Michael and that defense that's gonna have
to play well in order for them to win a
super Bowl or to win playoff games in order to
get to the super Bowl. And I'm not saying he
has to go twenty two or thirty two for three
thirty one in four touchdowns, but he's gonna have to

(23:57):
play well because in a lot of games in the
postseason he hasn't played well the last two years against
the forty nine ers, he didn't play well. That year
they came out here to the College Seam and played
the Rams, he didn't play well. He went to his
rookie year and I, okay, you chalked that up, but
we saw him go to Lambo do a demolition job
and when it came home, had the division ground there

(24:19):
and we saw what happened. So he's only going to
be measured by he's past the point of regular season.
He's at the point now. Okay, now, dak, okay, show
me what you got, show me what you got in
the postseason. That's how he's going to be measured and rightfully.
So check this out, dron Bland, I haven't seen anything
like this. Hey boy, NFL single season record for interception

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returns for a touchdown. He got his fifth pick six touchdown.
O Jo, We've seen guys, We've seen guys. That man,
if he'd held onto that, that wuld have been a pick six.
Oh he went to the house. He ain't missing, he.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Ain't dropping nothing. And the funny thing about it is this,
I want people to understand how elite and how great
this is what dron Bland is doing. The game of
football offensively is all about timing, yes, rout time. You
have to be able to either gamble or either guess
right or be extremely great at your technique, reading your keys,

(25:16):
using your eyes, knowing when to break, having film study,
studying enough film to know what's coming in front of
you to be able to get up, be able to
be two steps ahead of the offense and knowing what's
coming based on down and disc and based on alignment
and stuff like that. Dude, I went back and watched
all the picks. This is lined up litteral coverage and

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making a break on the ball and going the other
way with it. I mean, ain't no tip balls and
it's a ball in the air. No, he is literally
locking up, reading his keys and making a break on
the ball and going to the house. Is unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
The ball is on a lot of them been out
routes and the ball is tag behind to test all
you need and you know that's going to the house.
If you're behind, now you better throw that ball.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
So either he catch it or it's incomplete out of
bounds because.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
If you miss, he's on his hip. Now the question
is can't he hold on to it? And he had
missed because last week got one against Carolina. The dude
intercept the ball, did a somersault, got up off the
ground and ran it back for a touchdown on Joe.
But do you understand how good you gotta be, because
here's the thing. I can only get a pick if

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they throw the ball my weight.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, if they keep test, they keep testing him, they
keep testing.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yes, I mean the dude has more pick sixes than
a lot of your top receiver has touchdown catches. Yeah,
I mean he's when I think a top DBS. I'm
not banking to him, but he has to be in
the defensive player to your conversation.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
With that, with those how do you do how.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Do you overlook you? Mojoe?

Speaker 1 (26:57):
You can't because he's done something that there have been
many some of the some of the greats that have
played in this game that have a total of even
Hall of famers have a total of six or five
pick sixes throughout their career career. He's done it in
a season alone. He's at five right now, right here, yeah,
five five. Oh, you can't if you play if you

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played a video game, you played Madden, if you played
Madden for seventeen weeks and you had a complete season,
you can't get five interceptions on the goddamn video game,
let alone thinking about doing it in real life. That's
how good, that's how amazing. What he's done defeat, that
he's reaching and accomplished this season is crazy.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
But you know, it's a lack of respect for him because,
I mean, Time would go games, they wouldn't even throw
the ball his way. Reavers would go game, they wouldn't
throw his way. Champ Bailey, Rod Woodson, some of the greats.
But you're they're underestimating this guy. He's only in the
second year, and so they're like, we're gonna test him.
We ain't gonna mess with Stefan Gilmore, who is a
former Defensive Player of the Year. We ain't gonna mess

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with him. Okay, pretty soon he goes now with pretty soon?

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Now what you do? And and the funny thing about it,
this is a great thing for them going into the postseason. Oh,
this is a great thing into the postseason because now
what you're scared you ain't throwing Gearmore's way. But god damn,
you know, if we're throwing bland side, you know, what
is the chance that might get picked? But I know
what teams are probably gonna do because you're not gonna
face receivers that I got that goddamn shifty that can
Actually I call it getting oput on the muscle where

(28:22):
you don't need the Office of Coordinators help. Yeah, yeah,
you don't have to scheme. You rup. You can think
that they're gonna condense the splits, condens the splits and
and and force him to back up and find ways.
You gotta use motion, do all type of all types
of tricks. Be able to be able to throw the
ball in the Cowboys. You got you got to be
able to do something because right now, what he's done

(28:42):
to this point is crazy. It's so bad. So it is.
I'm so amazing what he's done so far. I had
to send him a tweet. I sent doron Blander tweet.
I said, man, listen, man, young fella, when the off
season come, we got to line that ship up, because
I want to see what that ship. I want to
see what that ship like. That's that's how good.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
But if you think about it from from the looks
of it, he don't look like he's not a press corner.
He's off.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah. Yeah, but you mentioned to me you could take that,
you could take you can attest to this. Being a receiver.
It's much easier when you got to do it off.
To me, all you got to do is run, step
on his toes and beat him out of transition and
make a player on the ball. Because he is still
he's still picking it off.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
He guessing. He don't know what I'm going. I know
what I got And because I can run the speed out,
I can run the end. I can run I can
run the dig, I can run the gold, I can
run the bang. Hey, now I understand, I understand he's
trying to guess formation wise. Okay, I'm getting this formation,
this down in distance, this area.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Of the field. They like to do them.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
But I'm studying tape, looking at his looking at where
he's positioned. Oh okay, he's positioned like this. You try
to take that bang away. Oh okay, I think I
can run the a Hey, this is how you play it.
He played me heavy inside, so it's gonna be hard
for me to get inside. Hey, Oh, we're gonna do
some things. Now we're gonna You're not just going to

(30:03):
sit and just drive on the out route, now, ain't.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, I've watched watched some of his some of his tape,
and he reminds me of his transition is so quick
as feed is so so quick as hips are really
really good. It reminds me of a Santi Samuel. Santi
Samuel and that tea step. I mean Santi. I'm looking
at Drown. I'm looking at Sante. The way they play
the game, those first three steps of the receiver off
the ball, he he ain't even looking at the receiver.

(30:28):
He looking at the quarterback. Yeah boom, and he gets
asked back on. He get asked back on, back on
the receiver, and he done took his three steps and
he's settling.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, he said, because.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Every every ride out of the scene where he done
pick the ball, the receiver is giving away indicators oh
I'm getting ready to break or they raising to get up,
get up out the out route, even though the ball
is behind he reading his keys. The god damn receiver
is giving everything away, everything away. I don't mean to
get into, you know, the technical stuff aspect of it,
but the thing is, O Joe.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
They take the ball in the shot gun snap and
the quarterback going three steps well, which is like it's
like a five or seven step drop, but he's already
the gun, so he's not doing conventional up under the
center taking that deep seven step drop. So he's in
the gun. He's only taking a couple of bounces back,
so he's like, Okay, the ball fit to come out.
If you're a quarterback and you stopped, that means you're

(31:21):
getting ready to throw the football. So why am I
gonna keep back pedaling and you've already stopped your drop. Yeah,
it's just it's just it's just it's just common sense.
I see where you angle, I see the way you angle. Okay,
you getting ready to break on something. I gotta step
on your toes and then I got to I got
to stack you because I can't let you. I just

(31:43):
can't let you run me and push me to the side.
Because that's where a lot of receivers make the mistake,
o Jo. They run the go route and instead of
stacking him, putting him in a trail position, you let
him run beside you. And all he's gonna do is
just put And they say, you know, your quarterback gotta
throw it perfect.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
You gotta throw a perfect ball. The sideline is that's
the sideline. He's best friend. That's another defender. It is
you got you got to get into them. Everybody, everybody
trying to use speed. They trying to widen and release
and get out. All they doing is just ride them
stand right on the hip. And most of those that
can play the ball, they look back and those that came,
they just play the hand.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Nope, I'm trying to put you. I'm trying to stack
you and put in your put you in a trail position.
So now the quarterback, you don't have to you know,
this little spot right here. No, he got all this,
all this, all this because you in the trail position.
You behind me. Yeah, but you know, like you said.
It's kind of like like when you like when you're
in television, ohoe, and they teach you how to read

(32:37):
the prompter. They always tell you got more time to
your think. Yeah, And that's one of the things I
would tell the wide receivers. You got more time to
your think. You don't rush it because you rush it
quarterback and think about it. Plus ojo, you got to
let the quarterback. He in the gun. You got to
get the ball.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah, so your head, Yeah, he got the ball yet
and every and every and the funny thing about it
and this is no, no, no, no, no, you know,
just my receivers. I know y'all gonna see that. Everybody
doing the same release they hes he has he skip
skip off the line and just go. Hess, he has
he skip skip and then go. And the dvs ain't

(33:15):
falling for it. All they do is hit the shoulder pad.
He turn and ride and turn and run. Everybody doing
the same, the same thing. Everybody.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yeah, that everybody tried to do that. Davante, that's the
Davante Adam, that's the that's the.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Basic basically, Hess, he has he skip skip and go.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
But and the thing see now they don't let you
get that physical because back when I first got into
the lead, if you heads it, you run through your mask.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Man, Man, they choke you to death. Man, listen, come
right up through here. You You ever had you ever
you ever played against Deal card him? Yeah, DC, Yeah
he was. He was in Kansas City. He actually became
a teammate of mine of ninety nine. But in Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Back you know, o Jo guys with what they called
quick jam a freeze technique. So they be up there,
they be up there, let a press position, and then
all of a sudden you see up opened up like
okay for.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Come right back, come right back to you, man. I
remember Man Dale called a man. I don't seen Dal
I had. I had to see Deal one time, man
when it was with the Ravens and Dale jumped jam
me man one time it was a block and play
and caught me in my neck and I couldn't even
move I couldn't even move on. I was stuck. I
was stuck in one spot and he opened up yet

(34:30):
the snap was coming. I'm thinking, oh, it's a run play.
He's good even the ball out man, that ball snap, Man,
he was in my chest. So got damn fast because
I was relaxed because I knew it was a run play.
Never again, Yeah, oh yeah, never again.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Guys don't don't quick jam a freeze technique nearly as
much as they used to back in the day.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
I don't even think the coordinate is even allowed to
play that technique. So they're not at a position because
you know, if you miss you, you you're asked out.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, because all they go do is you
throw that head up. Oh Dak, I think it was
the second to the last touchdown, maybe the last touchdown.
Dak had here a turkey leg and a Salvation arm
Army cap armything. Right when they scored a touchdown, Dak
went got the back plastic bag, had the turkey leg
and there took a bite of it. Yeah, now he
gonna get fined extensively.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Fine. I like that's fine. I like to say I
love it. I love it.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
So what did you think of dak celebration and what
was your favorite celebration?

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Uh? You know what. The Salvation Army with the turkey
leg in there was perfect. Obviously with the day being Thanksgiving.
With the NFL office, this is what the fans want.
This is what the fans want to see. I don't
think you should find for stuff like this, but he's
probably going to get us. But remember this, they don't
want you to use problem. Yep, yep, yep. No, no

(35:48):
props on the field. I wonder who started that. But
needless to say, that was a great celebration. I enjoyed it,
and it just it goes with the theme of the day.
It goes with the theme of the day, and the
NFL should realize to this point you have to be
a little bit more lenient allowing the players to have
a little fun because this is great engagement and fund
in entertainment for the fans. This is an entertainment business,

(36:09):
and stuff like that is exactly what the fans pay
those high price tickets for.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
You remember Joe Horn brought that cell phone jail Joe
Joe Horn started off with that foolishness. Oh yeah, dude
actually had to flip up under the goal, scored touch down.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
That was That was classic. That was classic.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah, I think that was Paul Tagnibu was in when
that actually happened. Yeah, because I was, I think I was.
I might have still been the league. So yeah, Daniel
just donated does Dak have to win the Super Bowl
to be considered a Hall of Fame quarterback? No, there
have been quarterbacks that's they're not many that's in the

(36:48):
Hall of Fame. Warren didn't win a Hall of Fame,
didn't win a Super Bowl. Warren Moon he didn't want to.
He didn't want to, didn't win a Super Bowl. But
for the most part, Dann Marino didn't win a Super Bowl,
but they he has thought of.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
As an elite quarterback.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Danny is one of the hundred greatest players in the
one hundred, yeah, hundred, He's on one hundredth anniversary team.
I think they picked seven quarterbacks. I think they picked
seven because if I'm not mistaken, I know uh Montana Manning,
Brady Lway, and Marino. I know it's five. It might

(37:23):
have been. No starbackers won so six. So I think
they picked six or seven quarterbacks, all of them with
the exception. I think Danny won at least won Super Bowl.
They picked seven, They picked ten quarterbacks. They picked ten quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Got to be in there somewhere.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
He wasn't one of the hundred greatest.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Uh Auto Graham was one, wasn't he? At GM?

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Auto Gram for the Cleveland Browns. Yeah, but back then
they didn't have Super Bowl. They had championships. Slinging Sammy, Bob, Johnny,
You but John But Johnny won the Super Bowl. Remember
he also the biggest upset when the Jets upset the Coats.
But back then he also won a championship. So yeah,

(38:09):
I don't I don't think he has I don't think
he has to, but he's gonna have to play. And
a lot of these guys if they didn't win the
Super Bowl, and and and I think I don't think Warren.
Warren did win an MVP, but Danny was an MVP
in nineteen eighty four, first got to throw. He threw
forty eight touchdowns WI which was unheard of, and that
day threw for five thousand yards, which would be the

(38:30):
equivalent maybe even six thousand yards considering the rules back then,
how you could attack the quarterback, how you could punish
the receiver. Oh, he would in today's game, he would
throw probably for six thousand yards. The Packers beat the
Lions twenty two, twenty nine to twenty two Jordan Love
twenty two or thirty two two sixty eight three touchdown
Christian Woods Christian Woods Christian Watson five catches ninety four

(38:53):
yards and a touchdown the Packers at a first quarter
defensive touchdown on the sack Fumbo cause Rashawn Gary on
Jerry Goff. Jonathan Owens, who happened to be some own
bows husband Scooper scored twenty seven yard. Gary picked up
three sacks in the win. Jerry Goff was twenty nine
and forty four three thirty two, two touchdowns, but he

(39:15):
lost three fumbles. And remember he got away where he
had four turnovers last week, they had four turnovers and
they came back and win. You see, you gotta be careful.
You gotta be careful because you play, you step up
in competition. You turned them all over. There's gonna batch
you in the butt. And it really bit him in
the butt. And I thought it was a little bit
early for Dan Campbell to go for it on fourth down,

(39:38):
especially in your own area of the field, because now
you are if they stop, you didn't field go range,
they stop, He didn't field go range, Jojo, Yeah, And
so but what do you take away from what do
you like about George Love because he made some throws today,
Oh Joe, Yeah, he made some throws today that I'm like,
hold on, did you see him charge? I saw him

(39:59):
last year and I said, I'm not saying he's going
to be Aaron Rodgers, because I think Aaron Rodgers. You
can make a case Aaron Rodgers one of the five
greatest quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
AT's arm talent.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Durw he I mean you're talking about he Marino Mahons
as far as just arm talent, just throwing the football.
How far he's there. But Jordan Love made some throws
last year. I said, hold on, he reminds you a
lot of a young Aaron Rodgers, the way he can
drop down the arm angles in which he can release
the ball. He made some throws today. I think the

(40:30):
Matt Lafleur, I think Brian goodigas the general manager, and
I think the Seeo Mark Murphy. They're like, okay, okay, okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
I think the fact of the matter is with them,
which made letting Aaron Rodgers go and understanding what they
had waiting in the helm to take over this organization
in Jordan Love. Obviously he can throw from multiple angles.
He can throw every throw from either hash. He's one
of those quarterbacks in the NFL. Where the ball can
be on the left half, he can throw a twenty

(40:59):
eighteen yard come back all the way to the opposite
side of the field. That's the type of arm strength
and arm talent that he does have, and obviously it
showed today with some of the things that he was
able to do. Christian Watson, the receivers have been really
up and down, up and down for the for the Packers,
you know, throughout the season. But when they get it together,
when they continue to mess, especially especially in the offseason,
they get together and they come back next year. They
have a nice squad. They have a nice squad offensively, Grista, Watson,

(41:25):
Romeo Dobbs, and Dobbs the rhythm man, the real deal.
They all are real deal. I just would I would
like a little bit more out of the running game
so it doesn't put the onus of everything having to
be done at the quarterback position and having to put
the game in his hands. A little bit more efficient,
a little bit more efficiency in the run game. I
think they're gonna be fine, obviously on the On the

(41:45):
on the flip side of things, this is a game
where the damn Lions couldn't overcome the turnovers. You can,
you can, you can't turn three times. One time, yes,
one time, you know you can overcome, but three and
you lose all three of them. That that that's that's
not gonna work. That's not gonna be that. You can't
play winning football like that.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
And the bigger problem is is that they got points
off your turnovers because they got a scoop and score
their offense wasn't on the field. At least you could say, well,
our defense came on the field and we could have
stopped them, and they we gotta be turned it right
back over. But no, they got They got seven points
out of your possession, and you can't. It's hard enough.
It's hard enough for a team to win games when

(42:25):
your offense isn't scoring, but when your offense turns the
ball over and you let the opposing team defense score
on those possessions, it becomes even more difficult. Okay, oh Joe,
it's time to announce our special five special Thanksgiving winners.
Each winner winners five.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
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Speaker 2 (42:48):
Each winner wins one thousand dollars?

Speaker 1 (42:51):
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Speaker 2 (42:54):
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Speaker 1 (42:59):
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Speaker 2 (43:04):
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Speaker 1 (43:32):
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Speaker 2 (43:36):
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(44:17):
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Speaker 1 (44:39):
Serious.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Yeah, so so he gets something, We got something, Hamed
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(45:03):
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Speaker 1 (45:13):
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I need. I ain't gonna. I'mna see him. I'm gonna
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Throw something on the floor for me. I'm gonna pick
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Speaker 2 (45:27):
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know what they say, money out of sight called a fight,
pay up, pay up, pay up. I need it. I
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team So that's a so, so you got n five coming?
Everybody got ninety five? Were good with that?

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(47:13):
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Speaker 1 (47:16):
Twenty thousand were giving away twenty thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
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What you want to ask Ocho, baby Pluto?

Speaker 1 (47:29):
What's up? Baby Pluto?

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Hello? He he just donated one hundred dollars, o Joe.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
He's done a hundred. Man, I print man. That's what
I'm talking about. Why you are real and what you're what.
I appreciate that, honey. I salute you. I salute you man.
You know you know I can do that undred one
hundred dollars. I'm behind on child support. That's going that's
going to that's going to my back pain. I appreciate that,
black man.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Look, I got a dog. I got a door to
med school. Man, I got a dog that mad.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Why I salute you? Why brother Pluto for your own boy,
Baby baby don't make me start Oh baby, Pluto, but
don't make me start crying here in front of company. Man.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Well, ah, I need Mama Jupiter to send send me something, babies.
Pluto just said, Oh, Cho, one hundred dollars, Mama Jupiter,
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Speaker 1 (48:16):
But I appreciate that. Boy. You're a real one. Bray
should shoot me, shoot shoot me a tweet, shoot me
a dm B. I'm for the follow you. I ain't
never had nobody to give me a hundred dollars boy,
especially right now.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Shoot times is rough, Oh Joe, I don't know if
you saw this real one in the In the HBO
Sport interview the Air Tuesdays, was asked if the rest
of twenty fourteen driving under influence of prescription drugs and
some some subsequent guilty plea which resulted in the six
game suspension from the NFL were a low point, to
which he responded, no, not really, because the arrest was wrong.

(48:46):
Ersa went on to accuse the Indianapolis Suburban Police of
Carmel Police Department of profiling him. I'm prejudiced against because
I'm a rich white billionaire. If I was just an
average guy down the block. They would not be pulling
me over. They would not be pulling me in, of
course not. Ursill said he had recently had hip surgery
at the time, which made it difficult to walk and

(49:07):
required him to take prescribe medication. Why the hell are
you driving there? He also said he played guilty to
the misdemeanor because he just wanted to get it over with.
Ersay asked if he knew how this statement would sound
to the public, which he replied, I don't care what
it sounds like. It's the truth, you know, Andrea talking
about Andrea Andrea Mitchell. I could give it down what

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people think or how anything or how anything sounds or
sounds like. The truth is the truth, and I know
the truth. Then he went on the tweet at first
tape to first Take all night, if you don't give
a damn and so I'm asking, if you didn't care,
why are you tweeting at first Take. So here's some
of the facts of his arrest. He was pulled over

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at eleven forty pm by a police officer who observed
a vehicle traveling ten miles an hour and a thirty
five miles an hour zone. The choir frequently made stops.
It would come to a complete stop on an open role,
no stop sign, no traffic lights. He was found to
having the multiprescription drugs in his car Xanax, darbarset, Valum,

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ambient atavan, according to the reless according to the rest,
he also had twenty nine thousand and a Toyola Hollander.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
He was driving.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Most of the cash find in the briefcase launder bag,
which contained prescription drugs. Hold on, I'm not done. Let
me tell you so. A little fat, he also was.
One time he had four hundred tablets of Auntie Conton
during one twenty four day period. He had one hundred

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and twenty prescriptions field and in a single seat in
a single year. In nineteen ninety five, Indianapolis police found
his name among records of a doctor suspected of running
a pill meal. So let this. Let this see people
at home. I just want you to hear what I'm saying.
He once got four hundred oxy cotton pills in a

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twenty four day span, and I think the pills were
worth thirty or forty milligrams. They were forty milligrams oxy conton.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
I'm lost a little bit On, you got you Okay,
atle bit you you got to catch me up. I'm
not one that really takes pills or really gets stuff
over the counter, so I need to have a better
understanding on what the oxy cotton is and.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Had so many. It's very addictive and it's a it's
a pain killer.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
It is in pain. I'm assuming this is from his
hip surgery.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Then, okay, here's the thing. He had the hip surgery
in June of one year. He was pulled over in
April of the following year. Oh yo, see how I
can speak to little something about this year? Your boy
had both of his hips reflect paired.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Okay, so you know about it.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
The one thing they told me, they said, they say,
and we would like for you to take seven to
ten days before you drive. Yes, okay, my head hard,
I ain't listen. But here's the thing, O Joe. I
had the first surgery, I had a lurgury action and
they weren't certain that the leisured reaction didn't come from

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the pain medication that they gave me. So the next
hip surgery, guess what, Ohoe, they gave me. I didn't
take any They didn't give me any pain medication they
put me under when I wrote, I took no pain medication.
So if you know you had hipster, first of all,
it's a whole it's a whole thing about it. If June,

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so it's almost a year, o jo. My second one,
I was walking unassisted in seven days. The first one
took me twelve days. So if you have hip surgery
in June of one year, how the hell you still
stumbling and falling and you in pain the following and
ten months later.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
But I think it maybe because of his age. I'm
not sure.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
I'm I'm just Jim Ersay at the time of the
surgery was fifty two.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Oh oh, oh he was young. Oh he was young.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Jim Orsay is sixty four years old. Yes, sixty four,
Oh Joe, he don't look it, but he's sixty four, right,
I'm fifty five. The hold up. He had a certain
twenty thirteen, so he was fifty four. He was a
year younger than he's a year younger than that. What
I am right now. I had my surgeries at fifty

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three and fifty four.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Hey, it's kind of crazy some of the statements you
read about him not caring, obviously not caring and being
that he's being profiled because he's a rich billionaire, and
obviously there that that. I mean, listen, there are a
set of rules that we all have to live by.
You know those rules are the same for everybody regards
to who you.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Are, Ojo, Yes, you know what would have happened if
you or I try to get four hundred oxy contin
pills in twenty four days? Do you know what would
happen to you and I if we got one hundred
and twenty seven prescriptions feel in a year? Do you
know what's gonna happen? And do you know what's gonna
happen to the doctor? He gonna lose?

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Can you tell me what would happen if you pay
for him? I mean he has give a one.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Hundred and twenty prescriptions. Ain't no doctor gonna write him?
First of all, that's over the top. Do you understand
how many one hundred and twenty years old? Joe?

Speaker 4 (54:29):
That's tenth month? Okay, it's ten prescriptions per month. That's
one hundred and twenties right, okay of oxy contin? Of
value of all?

Speaker 1 (54:40):
What was the drugs?

Speaker 2 (54:40):
He had put it up on my screen? Ash put
the drugs that he got script.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
For dam I'm learning something new ship And he didn't
think I know about. All I know about is talent
all the advil.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Nah no, no, no, no. He was taking stuff, stronging
and tiled all of that bill. But the problem that
I have is that he tried to say, well, I
come from nothing.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Bob er Say was his dad. He owned the Indianapolis
First of all, there was the Baltimore Coats. One he
went to s m U, m M s m U.
Wasn't cheap then when he went to school, it's not
cheap now cheap now. He got named general manager of
the of the Baltimp Indianapolis Coats. One month after they left,

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in the middle of the night they left Baltimore, they
packed up, they went to Indy. He got he got
named general manager. And for him to say he pulled
himself up by his bootstraps, Bro, do you understand that
you were wearing Christian Lubitan bootstrap boots. Do you understand?

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See he is the type of guy that he's on
third base. But it didn't hit a triple right. Oh,
that's a good one.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
That's a good analogy that that's a good that's a
good analogy right there.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
And I'm not saying and he talked about you know,
I just hate bro. Do you understand the perks that
comes along with being wealthy, white and a billionaire? Oh Joe,
we get some perks and we wealthy and black, but
we don't get those kind of perks.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Nah, it's different. Listen. And obviously when you're rich in general,
when you're rich in general, at some point, when you
get enough money, at times we lose, we lose a
sense of reality. We lose a sense of reality, and
we somewhat become or feel invincible to the fact that
we get to body by our own set of rules,
and we are different than everybody else. And many times
when we come or we have a running with the law,

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they will humble you and you bring you back down
to earth to help you realize that you were no
different than anybody else in regards to income or regards
to how many zeros you have in your bank account. Yeah.
And most of the time, if after enough red flags
and you still not listen, the man upstairs will humble
you himself. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Look, if he did, just oh Joe, if he did,
just go ahead and take his punishment, said, look, I
learned my lesson. I've been dealing with addiction. An addiction
is is it's a disease. Uh, and it's something that
I fight daily. I'm okay, I'm okay with that. But bro,
you were not signaled out. Here are some of the
scripts he had laws law, said vicerprofen xanax and colonapin.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
What yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I dover. Don't worry.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
But don't a lot of the people out there understand
what it is. You ain't just getting those O Joe.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
So is this is to help with with with the pain.
The pain he's going through.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
He's been to rehab. He's trying to make it seem
like he was dealing with and I'm not saying that
he wasn't. Each person is different. But if you know
you had hip surgery, why are you taking drugs and driving.
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. You can't
park in front of a fire hydrant and say, well, judge,
I didn't see the fire hydrant. He's gonna tell you.
Ignorance of the law. It is not an excuse. You

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know you were told what when you take I don't
know anybody out there you know when you when they
tell you about taking painkillers, what do they say, do
not drive or operate heavy machinery.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
That's all make you drowsy. It make you drive, make
you drowsy.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Yes, okay, yes, normally when you take painkillers, sit you
ass on the couch and you go lay down right?
Who thought that?

Speaker 1 (58:22):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Man?

Speaker 2 (58:24):
I got I'm in so much pain. Let me pop
some of this, Let me some of its oxycon. Let
me tell them as darbar set hey, I'm gonna go
for a drive. So let this think in now his
what what what's your hip hurting got to do with
you driving ten miles an hour and stopping on the
open highway? And and they came out, can you give

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me the report? What did what did the Karma police?
Karma Police said?

Speaker 1 (58:50):
And normally you would you would have thought, would it
being in Indianapolis and would it being the police? And
then and with him being Jim Ers most of the
time you let somebody go of that magnitude, especially a
name like that that is a representation of not just
the cults but Indianapolis. Yeah, oh, cho, it must have
been bad. He must have been like really messed up,
like drowsy or something.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Well, he soon he got a car. Hopefully when you
get we're gonna show the video. Were like, when we
when people see this, see this, we gonna see the video.
That ain't no pain because, like I said, I drove
three days three days after my second surgeon, but I
wouldn't take it. But I didn't take any pain medication.

(59:34):
But I also understood that they had already told me that,
mister sharp, you're not going to give you anything. Because
I had a very bad allergic reaction. I had to
go to UCLA medical emergency for the first time. Right, Okay.
Tim Green, the now retired Carmel, Indiana Police chief, told
USA Today Sports on Wednesday, Hello, Hello, Okay. I would

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just hope that he would reevaluate what he said there
because he knows that's not the case in this manner.
Let's just say some of the comments that he made
without any type of evidence approved. Mm bro them people
ain't pulling man, Come on, bro with with those kind
of prescriptions in there, because normally you got to have

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who four oh Joe, do you know how many four
hundred oxy cotton pills are? If you got there, you
going to jail. You're going to jail with four hundred
pills in twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
For having for having pills that are just for pain.
That's pain medicine.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
You ain't. Ain't no doctor writing you four hundred of them.
Do you know how to see? You don't understand. But
when you get out here, I want you to google
oxy conton and see how addictive it is. The pills
are the new The pill is the new thing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
That's what pill got people walking around here like zombies.
The pills are the new thing. People sell it, get
prescriptions and they selling them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
All right, I'm lost a little bit. So they selling
the pills. So the people that are that are person
appeals there in some sort of pain or they're just
addicted to to having it. Because it gives you a
certain feeling. People will buy the pain or whatever you're
going through.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Okay, let's just say I get a prescription. I got
a prescription feel for oxycont darvas set, hydro code on.
Hey man, man, I heard you. You got some pills.
What you need? O't yo?

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Let me get a what you got. I got some oxycon,
I got some hydra cod on, I got darva set
that klomping got what you need. What you need. Okay,
let me get that. I sell them to you. Now
you walking around here like a zombie because they're not
for you, and you taking them in abundance. People taking them.
They they're crushing them, they snorting them, They doing all

(01:01:50):
kinds of stuff. That's the thing that So here's the thing.
It's going to become illegal. Then pill mills aren't illegal.
He was he was getting scripts. You can't get script
You can't get fifteen. That's a piell meal. That's illegal.
Normally doctors lose their jobs if they do that. They'll
get this barred, they'll get this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
So you get them in bulkus illegal. But as long
as you get them and it's prescribed for you to
actually take, then it's not a legal. OHO.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
A's in small amounts, ain't oho. Do you understand how
many four hundred pills are? I don't think you're grasping
the magnitude of four hundred pills in twenty four days.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
I know you got you gotta give give it to
me in a different terminology on something that I understand.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Okay, Okay, you know about Viking. You saw players your
teammates take vikinging a percocet. So imagine your teammate getting
four hundred vikinging, which which is oxy conton, is probably
two to three times stronger than those getting four hundred
those in twenty four days.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Okay, I think I think I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Yeah, yeah, you so you got teammates. You know, your
teammates took they took, they took, they took those percoset
in those things that because that's what they gave the
football players.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Okay, he had four hundred and twenty four days. M
money talks. Hey, I mean, obviously people are people that that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
That's my point.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
They live a different lifestyle, and they have access and
resources to any and everything, and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
And he but he was trying to say that being
a wealthy, white billionaire was some kind of drawback. Oh,
he profiled.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
He clearly understands the privileges that that comes with strong.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
F out of the wealthy, right, bro, I promise you
if I get on Wilship Boulevard and they gonna get
some calls and the police come behind me, that's a
busy intersection. I'm going ten miles an hour, and then
all of a sudden, I just stopped, and then I
take off again. And I ain't ad no traffic light.

(01:03:52):
I'm not in a stop signed four way intersection, two
way intersection. I'm just stopping in the middle of the
middle of for no reason. No choke, what you think
they're going to do?

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Okay every time?

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Okay, So I just I just wish he had just
left well enough alone. Just own the mistake that you made.
You have some issues. You've been dealing with this for
a long period of time, and I understand, uh that
addiction is real. I just had a conversation with Rick Flair,
who lost his son reed, and you can see hear
the pain and the hurt of losing a child, and

(01:04:26):
so I empathize for anybody that's going through and if
get please get the help that you need. But in
this situation, I just wish Jim Ursay would have left
this alone because he's not gonna get any sympathy because
he's trying to like pretend like he had no he
did nothing, and they just profiled him and just pulled

(01:04:47):
him over.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Right, So so so is he in trouble now? No? No,
he was suspended for six games the NFL. He already
did his time, Okay, okay, okay, and So my thing was,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Even know why he wanted to rehash that. Don't Jo,
You served your time, You served your penalty. Why go
back down that avenue?

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Okay, yeah, I saw I saw the tweet. I saw
the first take tweet. I didn't really understand where it
was coming from.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
A tweety some other stuff about his siblings died in
the car crash, and some of that's true, some of
that's not true. I think one of his siblings has
special needs to end up dying in nineteen ninety nine
and it wasn't in a car crash. So he misspoke
on a lot of stuff. I'm not saying he's lying.

(01:05:36):
I'm just saying he misspoke the truth on some things.
But I don't understand why he would want to go
down that path anyway. That's probably a very traumatic experience
and try to redrudge that up to illicit sympathy. But
he can just he can just miss me on that one.
I don't know him that well. I've met him on
several occasions, but he gets no sympathy from me on

(01:05:57):
this one. Greg Papovitch tells the Spurs crowd of stopped
bing Kawhi Kawhi was booed off the doing winsday game,
particularly when he's at the free throw free throw lines.
The boos were so loud and intense that Pop got
on the microphone at the scores table and implored the
crowd to stop booing. Excuse me for a second. Can
we stop all the booing? Let the guys play, have
a little class. It's not who we are. Knock off

(01:06:19):
the bowing. It didn't work. The booze grew louder.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
They didn't listen to Pop. No, see listen oo. Yeah,
but fans of Fickle, he was. He was a He
was a spur. Yeah, the spur he gave his He
gave his is all and all.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Do you remember do you remember how you left?

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
See? See see what happened when I don't pay attention
to basketball? Was it something wrong with his knee? Right?
If some wrong? Yes, I see, I remember? And he
set out for a lot of He.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Said he had he had a quad tender nosis. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
See here was something that was going on.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
In his quad. And the first doctor said it was
okay Kawhi and his doctor says, no, it wasn't. And
the thing that and see, this is what good coaches do.
Coach could always iron fist Timmy d he could always
iron fist. Uh uh. Tony Parker a manule and he

(01:07:19):
thought that same approach would work for Kawhi. But if
you look at Kawi's demeanor, o Jo, you can't do
him like that. You can look at his demeanor, that
ain't gonna work with him. And he's not a he's
not a confrontational guy. And I told him at the time,
I remember when they when all this was going on,

(01:07:41):
I said, Kawhi, I never played for them again. Oh,
they they'll work it out.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
I said, no, he won't. How did you How did
you know they wouldn't play? Because the doctors know the
doctors did inside with him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
No, because something that Tony Parker said when Tony Parker
said my leg was Tony Parker tore his squad the
previous year and came to play before Kawhi, and he
said in front of the media that my injury was
a thousand times worse than Kwhy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
Why would he do that? Who dare it is? Why
would you do Why would you compare injuries to two
completely different body types and people heal completely different And
there's your teammates. You don't want to throw your teammate
under the bus like that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
And I think they had a team meeting or something
and ask him when are you gonna play? They had
a team meeting and they put him under the lights.
And once that came out, O yo, I've been you know,
I've been pretty good in locker rooms. I have a
pretty good gauge of how to deal with people. Some
people you pat him on the back, some people you
kick him in the buck. Some people you be facetious with.
I mean, I used to tell guys, Hell, my grandma

(01:08:44):
could have caught that one. Bro, it is, how bad
shot you crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
But yeah, you know who to play with like that though,
But you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Know, I'm getting my porn across. I'm like, right, but
some guys you ride, some guys you pad on the back.
Some guys you're like, bro, damn we all getting paid right, right,
right right? You can't talk to everybody the same, And
the mark of the leader is to know who to
talk to, how to talk to, when to talk to him, right,

(01:09:11):
And so I just I just knew, I just knew
that one going it said it didn't work. The bru
the booze grew louder. He said he didn't. He said
he wasn't bothered by the booze, and he said, if
I don't have that spurs Jersey on, they're probably gonna
mooove me for the rest of my career.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
You're right, he probably don't even care, though, do you
You don't care?

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
I know you. You remember when Lebron went back to Cleveland.
Do you remember when he went back to Cleveland from Miami?

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, that first game. I remember that. Yeah,
I watched that. They ain't give, but they ain't give
to you know what. They ain't care. They didn't have it,
but they built for that. Though like Lebron, people like
LIKEWHI ain't I ain't even heard talk yet. I heard
him laughing. I ain't heard him talk yet, So I
know he doesn't even care. Yeah, I know he don't
care about none of that. You know it don't affect

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him anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
But if I'm an opposing player, I've been very fortunate.
I left Denver and I went back. They cheered me.
They didn't boo me even even when I called a pass.
I don't remember them boo with me when I caught
a past. I left, left Baltimore, go back to Denver.
They cheered me. I don't remember them bo with me
even when I caught a past but that's different. I mean,

(01:10:18):
you know, the thing was is that, uh, I didn't
want to leave either place, but circumstances is beyond my control,
and the fans took that in considerations.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
A and what that's business it is.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Tiana Taylor filed for divorce from Imon Shamfer alleged infidelity
and mental abuse. According to legal documents filed in Georgia,
Tiana felt pressure to intentionally dim her light for her
husband to try to have a harmonious and peaceful marriage.
She accuses him of being extremely emotional and mentally abusive
towards her exhibited exhibiting cruel treatment and selfishness, crashing her

(01:10:54):
Rolls Royce only to fleet of scene, evading a second
d UI. She also claims iman with us whenever she'd
get the spotlight, asking her not to work, then gripping,
then gripping that she wasn't earning enough money for their
family damn. While she downplayed the talk of infidelity in
her public comments earlier this fall, writing to be a

(01:11:15):
one thousand percent clear INFIDELI ain't one of the reasons
for our departure. TMZ reports cheating was very much a
part of the divorce filet what's your take on that,
O Joe, Cause you're you're counting a situation where your
a rail earns a nice living. Yeah, and and going.
I want to hear your talking. I'm gona follow, I'm

(01:11:36):
gonna go with you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
I want to hear I'm the first thing that the
first thing I was getting ready to say is the
divorce rate, the divorce rated single is is super high.
I'm not even to speak on Tiana Taylor, what Emon
went through. How do we fix the issue? How do
we come down to this issue? Because the same things
keep coming up over and over and over and over

(01:11:58):
in fidelity? Is or is a pro problem? Uh? Money
has always been a problem. What else? Everybody has a
different factor. So many people are divorcing, and every time
people divorce, there's always a different reason and most of
the time, the same common things always come up. So
the thing I want to know in the chat and

(01:12:19):
the chat that you got you guys, listen, I think
this is a great topic and I'm glad we're touching
on this. How do we fix the problem. How do
we get to the root of the problem. What it
really is? The problem in general is marriage? Is the
traditional marriage? What something that we all can do? Or
do you do? You do you do the truck type
of marriage that that works for you. It's it's it's

(01:12:43):
it's really a loaded question when you think about it.
When you think about it, everybody portrays they're so happy.
When you look at pictures, if your mind be on,
everybody looks so happy. When you look at other people
that have been that are divorced, they look at pictures,
everybody so happy. But we never know what's going on
behind behind closed doors. How do we make marriage work?
That's what I want to know. Why do we make
it work? Forget the part of we're only we're seeing

(01:13:05):
the finished product, people ending, people being over. But what
they show and what they perceive to be is they
always show that they're happy and things are going perfect.
How do we fix the root of the problem so
it doesn't end of the goddamn That's what that's that's
what I want to know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Well, that's what you do on social media. Everybody wants
to do stuff on social media, post the post that,
or you did this, you do that for me.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
The thing is, your marriage divorce used to be frowned upon.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
They had to get really really bad, really really really
really bad for a man to leave the marriage or
a woman to leave the marriage. It's too easy now.
I mean, hey, you get mad, you come home. I
don't like this and boom, I'm gone.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
My thing is is that if what she's saying is true,
and I don't know that to be true, yeah, I
would be I would be honored if my partner, my wife,
my significant other had income. Because you have to understand,
at one point in time, I was the dominating figure
in the relationship. And and I know it's hard. I mean,

(01:14:16):
you know, and I look at I look at Tabitha. Hey,
Tabitha Chance. I know you watch a Chance commented on
my thing. I look at Chance in Tabitha. He cool
with being a stay at home that he runs everything
from from the background. He's cool with that. She loves
that man immensely. There's nothing that man could ask tab

(01:14:37):
for that she wouldn't get or give him. But he's
okay with that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Aman.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
You got to realize Aman was an NBA player first
round draft pick of the Knicks, he won an NBA championship.
He was at the height Leanna had to take the
Now it's I think it was something about taking pictures. Now.
You don't normally see that with a married couple. I
couldn't imagine someone Lebron and Savannah walk in the red

(01:15:04):
carpet and it says, Okay, Savanna, can you step to
the side. We just want to take a picture of Lebron.
Now your girlfriend. That's one thing. But that's that man,
that's his wife. So and I you know what that
I get it. It's kind of like steadman Oprah, Oh,
stepping is fine.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
In the background, in the background, Corey uh and Chris Jenner, right,
keep cool with the background.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
I think it's harder for a man. If you've been
at this level, Oh Joe, you've been in the spotlight,
you've been the center of attention. All of a sudden
they say, hey, we want to take a picture of
your wife and not you. We want to speak to
your wife. I want to speak to your wife and
not your right. I don't I have a bit. I'm cool.
I'm cool. I mean my thing is like I think

(01:15:51):
for me, like when I go into if I go
into a relationship. Okay, are you gonna work? You want
to work? You're working. Do you mean okay, you're gonna
continue to work? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Cool? Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
This is what I do. Hey, save yours. I mean
every relationship I've been been in. My girlfriend ain't gonna
pay for anything, ain't helping no rents, ain't paid. I
take over her bills. You got a car note, I
got that. You got an apartment, I got that. Come
on that the only thing you pay for your cell
phone bill? You pay that. That's all you got, right, Hey,

(01:16:27):
you know my mom, my mom want to come. My
family's coming. Okay, I got them. I'll fly him in.
I have a car service pick them up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Well, well you the one black by you? That boy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
I'm just I'm just, I'm just old fashioned. I'll do
a lot. I ain't opening no doors, so don't ask me.
I ain't gonna go round and open your door to
get in the car or something like that. Oh beyond
them door. But for most of the stuff, everything else,
I'm gonna take care of it. That's just that's just,
that's just the way I am. I'm not saying that
if another guy doesn't do that I'm not saying he's wrong.

(01:17:01):
I know some guys like, hey, oh sho, man, she
gotta pay for something. I'm good. I'm good. So that's
just the way I handle it. I've never been in
a situation where I've dated someone I guess that was
the equivalent of as far as facial recognition name recognition

(01:17:23):
as I am. But let's just say, for the sake
of argument, I dated someone that was the equivalent of me,
and all of a sudden I wasn't doing what I
was doing. Could I be okay with that? Yeah? Hell yeah,
I want to stay home. Maybe you go and go
on the red carpet by yourself. I'll be here waiting,
right because I ain't. I don't do stuff to try
to get attention. That's that's I don't do it. I

(01:17:45):
mean I used to post my dogs all the time.
I mean, I took a picture of today, Jordan took
a picture of my dog today. And I looked at
the comment, Man, you got the dog at the table. Yes,
because I promise you everybody that I would want to
come to my house gonna come to my house. You
can't find you can't find five people that's ever been

(01:18:05):
to my house and had a meal. Hm, that wasn't family.
Bucket Burns are probably the only two guys that's ever
been to my house while food is being prepared. Sit
down and nat and if you not a I may
explain them what I dave women say. Look, the dogs

(01:18:26):
they're gonna get on the bed. They're gonna get on
the couch. Uh, they're gonna sleep in the bed. The
two little one they're gonna sleep in the bed. I'm
gonna feed them table food. If you've got a problem
with the dogs, let me know. Now, we can't. We
can't do anything. I don't care how fine you are,
don't care how much money you make. Dogs ain't going nowhere.
They live here. You visited and you probably won't come back.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
Damn you like that. So them dogs come before any
woman that tries any your your candy, any or you tough.
I ain't tough, but I'm just saying that that's that.
But you tough, you tell that that's a good that's
a good rule. But again, when when it's this is great.
This is a great conversation, especially for the people watching.
People that are that are a couple of people that

(01:19:11):
are already married, that are watching, people that are maybe
even in relationships. I think it all comes down to
the to uh one thing that a lot of us
as as men throughout throughout time, that we've all struggled
with and being able to keep a woman happy long term.
You know, what does that entail? Is it possible to do?
Many have failed, Many have tried, and many have failed.

(01:19:34):
As for me, I think about I think about my
relationship in general and some of the ones I've had
in the past, and what I've done now I've come
to the point where I take I take bits and
how others operate in relationships and in marriages, and and
some of the things they do. I just I'm damn
thear somewhat of a copycat, if that makes sense. People

(01:19:56):
that are married Ryan Clark, I copied some of the
things that Ryan does. He probably don't even know. I
even watch him and watch how he moves, watch watch
how he conducts himself. Brother Shannon Crowder a very very
good friend of mine, very good friend of mine, who
I try to steal as much as I can from,
and I absorb everything he does. The way he moves,

(01:20:17):
where he operates, the way he speaks, the way he
conducts himself with his wife, with his woman. Duke Doke, guy,
you know, you know Duke, remember Duke Duke play in
the league for a little bit. Duke, I am. I
am not chow that I said, yeah, yeah, man, Duke.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
If if there is as a man, you're not supposed
to want to be like anybody, But there was one person.
I wish I had that discipline earlier in life. If
I had his discipline and the way he moves and
the way he operates when it comes to dealing with
his woman and not playing no games in any other area,
if it's not predicated to what he has going on

(01:20:50):
in her. Boy listen, but I trade anything, anything, and
for the world. I trade anything in the world to
operate and move like that young fellow, Like that young fella,
that man that's that's somebody that I look up to
and want and they inspire me as far as that.
I try to keep myself surrounded by people that are
in situations like myself, you know, so temptation, it's crazy,

(01:21:12):
it's crazy out here. So I think surrounding myself by
people who are in the same situation as me, that
want to move and that are going in the right direction,
and it's me as far as being a relationship, trying
to build and all the other good stuff. You know,
hanging out with single people, you know what you end
up doing. You end up doing single people things.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Yes, I think the thing is marriage is so individual.
You have to do what works for you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
Oho.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
Maybe it's going on vacation, maybe it's doing you know, hey,
y'all work out together, y'all go to church together there,
Because it's kind of like parenting because each child is different,
each relationship is different. So what works for you in
real might not work for me and my partner, or
it might not work for someone else in their partner.
So to try to say, Okay, I'm gonna do this, this,

(01:21:55):
and this, because the old adage is okay, the girl
like what I want. Such as you know, he takes
his kids to school. Okay, maybe he's in a position
where he can go to God. But let me ask
you a question. And the process of taking them kids
to school, is he taking you on vacation? Is he
paying for everything? So you have to factor things like
that in ojo. So because you can't get everything. There

(01:22:18):
is no perfect husband, There is no perfect wife. There
is no perfect girlfriend or significant other. There is no
such thing. We can strive to get it. But by
the way, I'm asking, what is perfection?

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Yeah, it ain't no such thing.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
So we're striving for something that's because oh three hundred
Why who said three hundred had to be the perfect
going bowling? Who had to say twenty seven strikeouts had
to be? So why couldn't it be forty? Right? But
for me, I look at a situation on you, it's like,
look this work for me. If it doesn't, I'm gonna
be up front. This is what has to happen. The
dogs are not leaving, The dogs are not going anywhere,

(01:22:56):
and that's so ojo. I don't get upset if a
female said, with Shannon, these are my non negotiables, I
got no problem with that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
I have to.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Seriously ask myself. Okay, Shannon, you're saying you can do it.
I know you can do it for a week, but
can you do it for a month, Can you do
it for six months? Can you do it for a year,
Can you do it forever? Those are questions that you
have to ask yourself. And I know in the beginning
a lot of time, like I said, when females would
tell me when I was dating, I said, look, football

(01:23:28):
is the most important thing, or I can be number two.
Until they found out, Man this mother, he tools here.
Man all he want to eat is chicken, breads and
brown rice. We don't go out to eat no time,
We don't do anything because all he does. Shannon, you
just left work. You just watch film. You tell me
you watch film for two hours and a half hours.

(01:23:49):
Why you gotta watch film another two hours when you
get home.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
Because that's how you become great.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
M This is how you make sure Mary Porter never
has to eat what she ate, the house doesn't leak anymore,
that my family never have to go back to that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
This is how.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
And so that's how I am. And so I just
tell them up front, Hey, the dogs, this is some
of the things I have. I'll do whatever I can
for you. As far as monetella, I'll I can only
love you. And that's the thing that's the hardest thing,
oh Joe, is trying to communicate in someone's love language.
Because as my therapist told me, she said, Shannon, she's

(01:24:29):
speaking Spanish and you're loving her and Mandarin Chinese. She
doesn't know what you're doing. And you don't know what
she's doing. So unless you learn her language or she
learns your language, there is no communication and it's never
gonna work.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
Do you think Do you think at times we as
men can get lost, we can lose a sense of
ourself trying to please a woman too much. Yes, because
everything is predicated towards making her happy, when most of
the time it's never really, ever, ever about us. Because
if you ask her what makes her happy, and you
just say, you just say, you ask her the name
five things that make her happy, and those five things

(01:25:05):
she names will always be predicated to her and have
nothing to do with you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
Yes, she want I want, he wanted to. I want
the man to take me here and I want him
to do that. I want him to.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Yeah, you got to be to provide a soul so
that the old in question still remains unanswered to today.
Is it possible? Is it possible to keep a woman
happy long term, whether it's a relationship, whether it's even
a friendship, well it's marriage. Is it possible, especially in
today's climbing and era that we're in, where women like

(01:25:39):
what you know, what he got.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
Once happening doesn't come from any external thing, go Joe.
Happiness coming from self. Happenes is not something you find,
it's something you create. You you notice I said, happiness
is something you create. It's not something you find. Self
is not something that you found. I hate when people
say I found myself. No, you created self. So me

(01:26:02):
give you. I can give you whatever, but at the
end of the day, you've got to be happy with
you. You have to be happy with the person that you are.
And I can. I can be an accessory to your happiness,
but I can never make you totally happy if you're
unhappy with yourself. And that's what I've had to learn
because I was looking for people to make me happy,

(01:26:24):
but I wasn't happy with myself. There were some things
that I needed to figure out. And then once I
figured out that, I said, okay, and I know, and
I look, oh, cho, I'll be the first a man.
I'm not an easy person to get along with because
because the thing is, I had one of my exits

(01:26:46):
told because all her friends like, he must be so
great to hang around. He's so funny, He's she said,
the person that you say on television. He's nothing like
that at home. And I'm not I'm very very quiet
at home. I don't watch a whole lot of TV.
Most of the things that I watch is on is

(01:27:07):
on mute, and if it's not making me money, I
don't really watch it anymore. I mean, I go, I'll
go home, I'll oh yo, I'll go home. And when
I'm home, and I wouldn't do anything. When I was
going vacation, I was another feud. I would even cut
the TV on real, wouldn't even cut the TV on.

(01:27:28):
I go, I go get a massage, Come home, stay
in my room. I go get my nails done. Come home,
stay in my room. I go get my hair cut,
go home, stay in my room. My homeboy will tell you, bucket.
Be like when I was playing Oho, my homeboy would
come up. He would say, hey, man, I'm gonna come
on up because I know you're about to get training.

(01:27:49):
When I got into that mode, nobody came up, nobody
came to visit. That's how I am. And so I'm
not an easy person to get along with. And I
think the thing is that's probably the most reason. And
people say I gotta I don't. I don't ask a
whole lot. I mean, I think people like, well, you
got too many rules. Well, if I'm oh, Joe, if

(01:28:12):
all I ask is that you not pass gas in
front of me or burth in front of me, If
that's too much.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
Okay, If I'm not or use the bathroom with a dole.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
No, that's not okay. If that's a if that's a
non negotiable for you, maybe we're not gonna reach out.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
But that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
Maybe I have some Maybe I have some some quirts.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
I had to, you know, get out of the habit
of you know, mama want to do a little something
in the morning. I had to get him brush my teeth.
I can't we can't be doing that. I can't be
kissing you mouth smeller like get back Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Noa wha wha wait a minute, wait, wait a minute,
wait a minute, Like when it's time to get to
the nitty grittying it, you ain't got time. You don't
have you don't got time to bursting your teeth. By
that time, the mood, the mood is already gone.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
Joe, Man, I can't be in there kissing nobody's Breastmeller
like get.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
Back man in the morning, ain't nothing. But now we're
gonna we're gonna, we're gonna work with you, We're gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
I don't go, you know, because a lot of times
I just you know, I had to get out of
that habit of thinking, I'm like everything had to be perfect, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
And I think everybody's striving for that though.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
But I just like this. I mean, oh, you come.
I mean you look at you. You go to my refrigerator,
all the labels are facing forward. You go in my cupboards,
everything is facing a certain way. You go, Everything is
color coordinated, hung up in my closets, everything is everything
is like like got cause everything is so boom boom
boom boom boom. And then when it gets out of that, Okay,

(01:29:46):
what's the problem. Why is it like this?

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
Mm hm.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
And so that was the hardest thing, but to get
back on Tianna Taylor Oho, I hope. I mean I
don't know even I don't even damn sure, no, Tiana,
I mean I know who she is, I know who
he is. I just I just I just hope that
wasn't the case. That because I ain't trying to damn nobody, like,
I want you to be your best, I want you

(01:30:12):
to be you. And if I can accentuate that, right
I got. I'll help what what you need? What you need?
Hey chicks saying hey, Shaul, I want to go to
I want to go to you know what I want
to go with? Real estate school. You know what I did,
o't Joe. I said, here, tell your mama to go
to Here's enough for both of y'all. That's that's that's

(01:30:32):
how I am. That's how I am. Nothing. I don't
expect nothing back. I don't do anything and expected back.
I've given my homeboys money. Hey, bro, when I give
you money, man shaw, come on, man, I don't want
you bro.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
You good?

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
You good? That's that's just that's how I am, especially
with Yeah. I've broken up. I've broken up with females,
Oh Joe, and it's like I see him like I said, well, hey,
you know blah blah blah. I've been very fortunate oyo
to not after breaking up with somebody not seeing them
out with someone else because we live totally different lives.

(01:31:08):
I'm on one side of town, there on the other
side of town. I live in one state, they live
in another state. So I don't really but if they
ever need me, I had this one one ain't nothing,
no one hick. She called me. We were cool, right,
She's like Shannon, and I really need that's what you need?

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
Down payment on the house. Okay, you good? Whoa whoa
whoa whoa down paymas that down payment? What you're twenty
five twenty five hundred, Oh Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Let me tell you what I do because I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
If you, o yo, if you cool with me, you
ain't got nothing to wory about. Let me tell you
what I did when I was young. I'm glad were
friends then, o Jo, when we were young. When I
was young, I would test with me because I wanted
to see if you really like me and what you
So I went to see this lady. I ain't gonna
tell you why I went to see it, but I
stay in the hotel and the last day he was

(01:32:03):
coming back before I was getting ready to leave. So
I gave her five thousand and forty dollars. And I
know people at home and say, why do you give
her five thousand and forty because Valets was twenty seven
dollars and I wanted to see if she was gonna
take the forty dollars. Give the Valets and let them,
keep them and keep the change. What you think she did?

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
I know she ain't hit you ad for the money
for valet. Don't do that. She charged it to the room.
So I'm out. What were you lying?

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
I'm out? I'm done.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
Take it you. You purposely gave her forty dollars that
would have took care of the valets. She could have
pocketed a lettle five, and she kept that little forty dollars. Yep,
that's a good test on. That's a good one right there. Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
Let me tell you. Let me tell you what I did.
I did what I did one time. I told her
I once I told the check. I said, I'm gonna
give you X amount of dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
I gave her. I gave a less than that. Now,
I probably I will tell you what I told I get.
I said, I'm gonna give you ten bands. Mm hmmm
for a birthday. I give a ten band for a
birth I said, I'm gona give you ten bands for
your birthday. Yes, sir, I gave her eight. Okay, you

(01:33:25):
didn't want it because I promised a teen? Wait what
she turned down eight thousand?

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
Because you you just because you said, she said, I
lied to her. You know, women women big on principal.
Now you know how that is. If the women big
on that. Women listen, if you say you're gonna do something,
they big on that. I didn't seen women women say listen,
if you say you're gonna do something, do it. If
you ain't gonna stand on what you said you're gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
Do like a lot of times. But I like to see,
here's the thing, and this is how I am O. Yo.
The way my grandmother raised me is that be appreciative
even if you don't get what your thought, and that's
what you know. Look, and I think that that came
from growing up. How I grew up always gonna ever
get what I really asked for it because we couldn't

(01:34:13):
get it. My mama got what she could. I mean,
I was the first one of the first in Glimmville
to have air Jordan's. I was the first to have
a walkman. I mean, we had a lot of stuff.
Whatever my mama.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Could get, we got it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
Yeah, and so it right and my grandmother, whatever she
could get, we got it. And so it taught me
to be appreciative of whatever she gave me. And it
rubbed me the wrong. The one thing I hate any
woman that's ever dealt with me, if you ask them,
hopefully they don't tell you. But I hate ungratefulness. I

(01:34:49):
hate ungratefulness. Yeah, appreciate what I give you, and I'll
give you more. And most of the time you don't
have to ask me, oh yo, I just give it
to you. I just go give it to you.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
Yeah, yeah, that's how I You know that that's very
hard in today and today's in today's era, in today's climate,
because you got you got fellas. Now that obviously that
leave with money and do so much right off the
bat to when you when you reach somebody like you,
someone like you who is a little bit more conscious
of the way they give, then it's a little different

(01:35:21):
because they expect it to be a certain way based
on the individuals they dealt with before you came along.
It's a little different. Yeah, you got you got fellaws,
you got fellas. That's throwing that money because they got
that fast money coming in and they move in different
so they could spend like that. So those that have
to work hard for their money, they don't really appreciate
you like that now, yeah, you So it's different types.
It's different types.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
But I just hopefully you know, I got daughters that
are that are grown and updating age, and I just like,
look and I just try to I just try to
explain to them. Look, they've been around that, They've been
around me their whole life, and they've grown accustomed to
a certain thing, a certain type of lifestyle. I said, Baby,
but what happens if you don't meet somebody the equivalent

(01:36:04):
of your dad? You gotta be okay with that. You
got to meet somebody that's gonna love you, even if
they can't provide what I what I provided you growing up,
and you gotta be okay with that, right, you gotta
be okay with that. But yeah, and you got to
be supportive of your husband and hopefully he's supported for you.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
That's that's that's that's that's the thing, like I said,
O Joe, For the most part, like I said.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
I haven't met anybody equivalent of me or you work.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
Look, if I'm in a relationship with you, if you
if you're working, you want to continue to work, work, baby, Right,
but you don't put anything towards the house, save your money,
save yours. The only thing you gotta pay the only
thing you'll ever have to pay for is your own
phone bill.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
Your phone bill.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
That's it. I got the car, I got the insurance,
I got everything.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
M M well that's that's why. Y see why you're
so picking that, because whoever you pick, ladies, I know
you're listening to doctor Doctor Alex.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
Alex Trinidad donated one hundred dollars for your boys. Said
this for you, Alex a T. I appreciate that. I
appreciate that. Good looking out real friends. The doctor just
donated another five hundred happy thing. Hold on, hold on,
hold on, yo, he.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
Said, Happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
I like to stand a self care gift card to
you for a facial in skin treatment at an LA
based skincare expert Tracy hud Hudson. She's expected to hear
from you. Enjoy.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
Hey, hey, listen. Now that's the third time. Now, Now
that's the third Now that's fifteen hundred dollars. Now that's
fifteen hundred. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
I ain't playing baseball. I ain't playing baseball, but I
used to be good a softball player. Struck Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
My grandma said, three times a charm. Now you keep
on playing around, you're gonna end up on a farm. Oo,
don't don't play it. Don't play no games now, miss
your blessing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
You know what opportunity knocks or grumbler complains about the noise?
You know, I ain't. I ain't want to complain.

Speaker 1 (01:38:14):
All right now, okay, and let me let me ask
you a question. Stay with me, now, stay with me.
Knock knock, Yeah, who there, knock knock? The doctor there,
you got that bad?

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
She got you. I have been I haven't been breathing
good lately. You might need you might need to open
up my arroway doc.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
Man, stop playing. Hey listen now, listen. The man upstairs
ain't gonna get you to too many more signs. Man,
he he ain't gonna get you too many more. Hey,
but but back on that, back on the top man
with Tana and mom. Man, it's unfortunate, I mean many
many of our what I consider and I called celebs.
You know, I know both of them. It's very unfortunate
so many of them continue to break up, so many

(01:39:07):
of them, and people don't want to fight no more,
you know idea I mean back in the day for something.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
Yeah, Look, it's not like my grandmother and grandfather didn't
argue a lot in front of us.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
But they would work it out. People don't want to
work it out. Now, you got too many eyes, too
many options on.

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
Social media has made us think that there's so many options.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
Oh no, it ain't nothing, not there, that's what happened.
Let me bring it, let me let me bring that
back to you real quick. Ain't not not there, No,
not there, not not like that, not like that, Because
if it was that good, it'd be taken on. If
it's if it's, if it's, if it's what you thought
it was, if you what you thought you was, you
know you you it'd be, it'd be taken and with all,

(01:39:54):
with with all due respect to what's out there. You know,
some people are still looking for their person and whatever
that person may be, whatever you envision your happiness to be,
it's out there and you're going to continue looking for
it because you're looking for perfection. You're looking for perfection.
You're looking for you know, you want the best of
the best, and that's just not the way it works
because that might not be in your cards. I'm not
sure what deck you're playing with, or you might want

(01:40:17):
to shuffle, but but well.

Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
You know what your man you know you say, sometimes
you got to deal the car. You know, you got
to play the hand that you dealt. But I ain't
got no spades, I ain't got no face cards. I'm
throwing my hand in.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
You might as well throw it in. But the way
she blessing is, uh, it's page you throw it in.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
Yeah, that's all them. You know what you got to
know in the fold that social media has been a
blessing and a curse because it's allowed us to have
our own platform like a nightcam, like a club, and
it's allowed me opportunity to to to become more recognize.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
You whatever you want you, whatever you want to envision
yourself as being, you can portray it on there until
somebody see you in person. Yeah yeah, but until somebody
see you in person.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
But I think the thing is is that when I
was playing, when I first got into the league, to
meet somebody from Miami, you damn that had you had
to be in Miami.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
If I wanted to meet somebody from Cali or Dallas
or Houston or wherever New York, I had to be
in those places. Now I just open up and I
could just like.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
Damn, oh yeah. Social media has made the world very
very very accessible, has made every everybody accessible. It's made everything.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
And and the thing is like, look, everybody has somebody.
My grandfather just always say, boy, everybody got somebody. It's
just a what extent, married, fiance, significant other, boyfriend, girlfriend,
ain't nobody just like there I ain't got nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
No, no, mm hmm. So it's always something, there's always
some type of title, there's always some type of something.
And one of the one of the scariest things that
you can deal with is when you find somebody new
and you're having to compete against their past because I
remember my grandma always told me where you're gonna meet women,

(01:42:06):
and women gonna come into your life and they will
always have somebody from their past that will always have
access to them. One person, just one, You're right, not
a whole bunch of dudes. Not a whole bunch. No,
I'm talking about the person. I don't care. I don't
care what you I don't care what she tell you.
There will always be one person that will always have
access to her, no matter what she says to you.

(01:42:29):
And another thing she said was every time you date somebody,
you always have to remember you are really not the
ones she want to be with the ones she really
want probably just wouldn't get his act together. And the
two things it is stuck with me forever and ever
and ever and now. It's just always been in the
back of my mind. Matter of fact, real, I know
you watching, Real, I better be the one you wanted too,

(01:42:52):
because I know you can see this. But yeah, man,
it just just just small things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:42:57):
If I don't let it bother me, it doesn't deter
anything I have going on right now. But again, keeping
a woman happy Emon and goddamn is unfortunate. They had
what they had. I wish. I wish them both the
best of luck. But for me, like I told you
young and those that are watching, I kind of hang
around people that are in the same situation as I
am to make sure I stay on point. And again,

(01:43:19):
if y'all don't know Duke, you can follow Dukie on
Instagram and that's that's somebody I look up to and
want to be like. And Unk I'm waiting on you.
That's why I'm trying to get you a plus for
because we because we are together so much. I need
you in that same lane I'm in so I can
steal from you and move accordingly the way you do.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
But I don't hang around I'll hang around nobody. I
don't hang around nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
You got to you gotta start hanging around me because
I'm I'm, I'm walking down the right path, and I
need you to walk with I need, I need, I
need a bad influence. No, I ain't unless unless you
talk about eating. That's about it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:55):
Laron Lewis donated ten dollars and said, oh, at this point,
give me your your answer our message, reil friend Nah, Hey,
well no. James Coben James Coleman donated finaluts as Hey, guys,
what's your top three eighties action movies?

Speaker 1 (01:44:13):
Top three eighties eighties action movies? Oh, well, that's a
good one. Well, let me think Mad Max. What you
know about Mad Max?

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
It Bell Gill?

Speaker 1 (01:44:24):
Hey, what about Golden Child? Golden Child ain't the eighties?

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
No action movie?

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
Man? Golden Child was action about man. Yes, with a
little boy, it was action.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
I mean action.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
You think about what you want to want me say,
Rainbow m Yeah, Predator. Predator ain't the eighties though, yeahidredit
their first is that? Okay? Okay? Yeah, I think it's
eighty question. Okay, that's a that's a good one. That's
a good one, Rainbow. What about, Oh I got one
for you. What about I'm Gonna Take You Back? Diehard?

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
A action movie or to the Christmas movie?

Speaker 1 (01:45:03):
That's a good damn that's a good question. It's an
action movie. Yeah, it just happened to be filmed around
Christmas time? It was the setting? Was it at during
Christmas time? What about? Why is it slipping my mind?
The movie with Arnold Schwarzerenigger, which one old terminator? No, no,
it's not even not even terminator. He was Conan God,

(01:45:27):
Conan the Barbarian. Now you took it right, you took
it right out of my goddamn mouth. Conan the Barbarian.
You remember that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
Yes, that was classic.

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
That was That was a good, good, little action movie.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
Turner King thirty one donated twenty dollars Unkno, yo, what
would you y'all prefer a Dodge Challenger? I mean a
Dodge Challenger hell Cat or a track Hawk. And why
I'm partial because when they reintroduced the Hellcat in two
thousand and eight, I got it, they were numbered. Then
they only came out with sixty four hundred I had

(01:45:58):
number forty, and when they came out with the Hellcat,
I think it was twenty fourteen, I got that one.
And so the last edition of the model they came
out with, they came out with a model called a
Black Ghost. They came out with a Demon also, and
so I got that one. So for me, I'm kind
of biased towards the Challenger hell Cat because I think

(01:46:19):
it all the remakes, it looks the most like the original.

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
Challenger, right all right? For me, if you know me,
you know I drive a smart car. I'm really not
into speed. I'm not going fast. If I had to
take a choice, good friend of mine, Chief Keev, has
a track Hall, so I'd probably go with the track
Hall because it looks cool. I don't I don't really

(01:46:44):
drive fast. I'm not into hellcats and dog cats and
what's what's the other one called John Demon Demon Time
de Time. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
I want to get old school. I'm gonnaet an old school.

Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
If you're gonna get a Chevy, get it, don't no,
I'm thinking about I'm thinking about like a seven in chavel.
I'm gonna get a Chaveil. I like chavel, I like kudos.
Get you a don't, man, I like uh the.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
Ram era A g t O. I'm in. I'm gonna
get something. I'm gonna probably get something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:12):
You gotta get, you gotta get your I don't want no,
don't dude, ain't you know matter? Get your seventy three
man convertible. Man, Peanut butter guts, Man, I don't like
peanut butter guts. Come on, I like either, I'm gonna
get you drop drop the talk back, get your convertible,
drop the tap back Man twenty six ins all gold
Dating's music blasting, thinking about Joe Cover. You drive, you drive,

(01:47:33):
you in l a ride down Crenshaw.

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
Man. I used to have a convertible. I mean in college,
my brother bought me a three hundred z X I
had t tops and then he gave me his remember yeah, yeah,
he gave me his SL. He had an SL. He
gave me that convertible. I had a Bentley convertible. Look
at it. I don't I don't want to convertible, but
I don't want to be seen.

Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
You had a Bentley convertible.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
Yeah, bro, bro you got had Bentley had rolls had.
Now just give me that little BMW my little range
I'm gonna keep it moving.

Speaker 1 (01:48:04):
You're good, Yeah, you're good.

Speaker 2 (01:48:05):
And my black goals that when I go home in Atlanta,
I can drive that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:10):
I'm good. Well, you got all typist, but no fix.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
I don't have it. Yeah, I don't have some Well you.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
Better than me. I've been driving my small cars in
two thousand and six. I got me a little suburban
right now for the kids. You know, when we need
to maneuver, you know, and make moves other than that,
that's it. As if I need something nice, you know,
I got all my my luxury stuff. You know, I
got a rental car place down here, exotic motives, you know,
all my luxury stuff. You go out there and your
rent you know, you come out, you come to mam.

(01:48:39):
You be stunned, and you think you're stunned, but you're
really driving my ship. But anyways, it just make it
make a little change, a little change.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
Ex Emerald donated ten thousand as what was the best
best athlete You guys went against grinding from.

Speaker 1 (01:48:52):
Puerto Rico Best Athlete.

Speaker 2 (01:48:55):
Love the show Uncanocho, Puerto Rico got some things over
there to who got the best with Puerto Rico Dominican.

Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
Best what food women? Oh, I don't know, I'm I'm
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
Okay, damn, Hey, y'all jumping the chat? Who who the
Puerto Rican a Dominican? It closed though, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
I don't know. I ain't never been to Puerto Rico
a Dominican.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
But I heard I ain't never been either, o Jo.
But everybody talking about a sharp man. Hey, you need
to get on.

Speaker 1 (01:49:24):
But I'm telling you, bro, yeah, I ain't never been over.

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
There be feisty, all of them, both of them feisty.
I'll be they be talking. Yeah, they feisty. That they
might be a little bit too too feisty for me.
I'm you know, I'm slow boogie, I'm slow motion over here.

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know noth about that.
But you're on your own.

Speaker 2 (01:49:41):
I'm all of what what rail is?

Speaker 1 (01:49:45):
Real? Porto Rican?

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
Thank you don't play with me, o Joe. I'm too
big of a cat to be played with like a kid.
You know that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
I know. But that's that's one. That's one topic. I
don't want no part. Okay, Okay, I know watching baby,
you're watching she Yeah, she's she watching. Matter of fact,
the funny thing about it is she downstairs? Right, she downstairs? No,
I'm not a kid, you not she downstairs, but I
got the key. I got both sets of keys, so
she can't get up. So she watching from the car. Yeah,

(01:50:14):
I ain't in for the play because I got to
I got to deal with that when she's walking the door.

Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
I know, you know what. I appreciate that, But I
tell you what, Hey, guys, just watching Dominican Puerto Rica.
But I Emma wants to know who's the best athlete.
I would probably say obviously time. But you know what,

(01:50:39):
o cho I was in the league when both Jackson
was in the league. Actually he was on the Raiders
when I was at the Broncos. And if you look
at one of the plays, one of his long runs
were against the Broncos and it might have been like
a week of two weeks before he fractured his hip
against the Bengals. So many man Bowl athlete. It's got

(01:51:05):
to be bold time.

Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
Yeah for me, but it have to you have to
be maybe maybe a prime time of Champ Bailey. What's
about pure athlete? Yeah, crime a Champ Bailey, Yeah yeah,
two persentth to both of them played to two position players.
And we haven't seen anything like that today today.

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
See for me, unless you played against time or you
actually on the on the sidelines when he played m hm,
you don't get an appreciation of it. You really don't
to see how he moved and how effortlessly he glided.
It's kind of like, I want to talk about this earlier,

(01:51:45):
but I played on Thanksgiving my rookie year, and guess
who we played, the Lions. Guess who the Lions.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
Had, Barry Harry Sanders.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
Yeah, so what do you think he did? Put on
a show?

Speaker 1 (01:51:58):
Are you crazy with people? Say?

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
Oh that was no, no, no, no, no, They'll never
ever be another barrier. You're never going to see a
guy start with two feet and take off and do
what he is. Unbelieved to see it in person, I'm like,
it almost didn't. It almost defies it divides, defies gravity,
it defies logic, it defies physics, that his joints, God

(01:52:24):
only made one person that joints with like ball bearings,
and that he could the way he could be in
and hug and maneuver. It's almost like you see cats,
like when when the animal turns and he turned it
around like a cheetah and he turning right there with him.
That's how bar aink and his knees and his hips,
that's how they maneuver. Like man if I stopped, like, hey,

(01:52:47):
if I try to start with both feet, me going there,
patella going over here, helps going to it. Hey, I'm
gonna shadow something like ice hitting the floor. It's really
that sim Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:53:01):
So that's a good that's a good one. That's a
good one. Barry he was special.

Speaker 2 (01:53:05):
Oh man, he was really bad. I'm fortunately like I
got an opportunity to play, you know, like the old Guard.
You know Montana and Marino and Lway and Barry and
Emmett and Jerry, some of the great defenders d t Lt.
Bruce Reggie, uh time, you know Ray in the monitor

(01:53:26):
had Ray and Irlacker and then you know I played
Manning and Brady like WHOA kind of got kind of
got I kind of got it pretty good old probably
good over here, my brother, you know, very good. Yeah,
and then now you see these guys coming like okay,
but I think the era from from when I played.
You look at the quarterbacks. I mean Montana was all

(01:53:49):
only all you know, Century team and Manning and Marino
and Lway and Brady. So I got five of the
ten played in the era, Reggie Ruse, Ray, Uh, Jerry Rice.
I think Randy Moss was on that team I played against.
Uh played against Tony A lot of the offensive linemen.

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
I like.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
You, I mean you you got I think, well you
got Brady and Manning within that era. You played against Ray? Yeah,
all right, I'm trying to think ed Ed Reed, I
got played against Ed.

Speaker 1 (01:54:28):
Who else that's about great roagainst He's teammate the tail end?
Who else? Shoot? Uh damn t o. Trying to think
who else? About? These are the elite of the elite.
H what.

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
So u uh oh jo?

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
I forgot to ask you this. I should have asked
you this earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:54:54):
So what what?

Speaker 1 (01:54:55):
What? What? What you have for?

Speaker 2 (01:54:56):
What you have for Thanksgiving?

Speaker 1 (01:54:57):
To day?

Speaker 2 (01:54:58):
What? What the play look like?

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
You ain't see you ain't see my thanks Giving plate? Like, man,
tell somebody pull that up for you, man, real quick man,
somebody pull up pull up that plate, man, real quick man.
Look at that plate. Man, Look you see the devil
eggs man, dirty rice, the dirty rice and mac and cheese,
dirty the turkey, dirty rice, dirty rice. Thanksgiving now, yeah, man.

Speaker 2 (01:55:27):
Is that is that?

Speaker 1 (01:55:27):
Is that I had chocolate cake?

Speaker 2 (01:55:29):
Is that? Is that a Puerto Rican thing?

Speaker 1 (01:55:31):
Deviled eggs? No, I just like devil eggs. Devil eggs
is a delicacy.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
I know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:55:41):
It goes in any setting like traditional things giving, like
turkey dressing. Yeah, I just said that. I don't like dressing.
I got mashed potatoes on here. Yeah, tell them look
at that. Look at that plate. Man, fix your glasses
so you can see good. Okay, yeah, you see it,

(01:56:01):
and see you see that I made I made. I
made that. I made the macaroni in the yams. I
see that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
That damn their.

Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
Yeah, I made that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:10):
Who made the color greens? What you got the collar greens?
You got turkey necked ham, honks back.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
Pigtail, hamp, little hand hot Okay, real, real, real, red,
real made the collar greens. I did everything else.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
You ain't do nothing. You can't cook.

Speaker 1 (01:56:23):
I did it. I did water. Now you know I
could cook. Now. I went to the Cordon Blue out
right here for a lot of that. Don't do that.
I spent two years there before I flunked out.

Speaker 2 (01:56:32):
That means you can't cook, you know, you flunk out
of something that you can't do.

Speaker 1 (01:56:35):
It flunked out because I left. I left and went
another job.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
When you when you when you flunk out, that don't
mean you left, right.

Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
I didn't mean to use I didn't mean the word
to use. We use the word flunk that I can't
I felt. I felt I did all I can and
took as much information as I could to motherfucker survive,
and I left. You didn't mean to say flunk. Okay,
I just left. I just left. No.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
Yeah, please make sure you click that subscribe, But thank
you for getting us to three world. We're now three
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We'll be back tomorrow, tomorrow immediately following I think it's Miami.

Speaker 1 (01:57:14):
Who does Miami play Jets? Jets?

Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
We will be. So it's not gonna be a typical time.
The game comes on at three, right, Yeah, so no,
probably what five thirty? Probably around five thirty, give or take,
going on five thirty, give or take a few minutes.
So guess what. So Thursday, Friday, Monday, Tuesday, we're gonna

(01:57:38):
be We're gonna be back at it.

Speaker 1 (01:57:41):
What happened if we hit that three fifty whenever we
hit that three fifty tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
I don't know we're gonna hit three fifty tomorrow. That's
asking an awful lot ot you.

Speaker 1 (01:57:49):
No, it ain't. I'm gonna push. I'm gonna push. I'm
gonna go on Instagram. I'm going on Instagrams and I'm
gonna telling everybody I'm finna hit all my people and
be like man tall, let's tell all your homeboy man.

Speaker 2 (01:57:59):
But yeah, that would be nice. But the drawing has
gotta be Monday, because we already told people it's gonna
be Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:58:05):
Okay, we told the money. Okay, say let's say, yes,
we can't give it you the people on Friday, the
people that beat right, gear it up for Monday. Right,
we're gonna we're gonna hit that three fifty by Monday.
To watch now watching watching me work with Magic. Thank
you for thank you for kicking clicking that subscribe button.
We had three hundred and thirty one thousand. We need
to get to three fifty by Monday. The shade by

(01:58:28):
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Thank you. Make sure you click that like also and
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So you're hear in the background she laughing. She does
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She'll add a topic, says, Okay, there are this many
people talking about this. I think this is something that

(01:58:50):
we need to bring back. So if there's something that
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(01:59:10):
that we've missed, hey, put it in there and we'll
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(01:59:31):
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We'll be back because you guys deserve to have us
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(01:59:52):
your favorite number eighty five that played didn't look too spiffy,
but lies so good.

Speaker 1 (02:00:01):
The fact.

Speaker 2 (02:00:02):
Uh, you know what next year, you know what? Next
year I might, I might. No, I can't cut it,
you can't cook. We're gonna have We're gonna have it prepared.
We're gonna have to have a world somebody world renow
to whip us up turkey, dress dressing, mac and cheese. Uh,
sweet potatoes.

Speaker 1 (02:00:24):
Why would you have somebody world renown when I can
do all that myself.

Speaker 2 (02:00:27):
You're not world?

Speaker 1 (02:00:28):
Now I should? I am?

Speaker 2 (02:00:32):
I mean, hey, I can pull I can pull my
own teeth. Why would I need to go to dinners
when I can pull my own tea? Because that's what him,
That's what he would, That what him went the school
to do.

Speaker 1 (02:00:44):
No, I mean YouTube, you could do everything. You don't
need to go to No, goddamn Dennis. If you got
if you got it, you need a roocnear. You can
do it yourself right at home.

Speaker 2 (02:00:51):
You Hey, you know they say when you in in
the law, they say if you can defend yourself in court.
But they say, you know the person that defends himself
in court, he has a food for a client. You
pull your own teeth. You to give your own self
a root canal. You got a food for a patient.

Speaker 1 (02:01:10):
And listen, I done it before.

Speaker 2 (02:01:11):
But all right, yeah I pulled my own t too.
But I happen to be six.

Speaker 1 (02:01:15):
Nah, I wasn't six. I was twenty. I was twenty three. Yeah, okay,
I was twenty three. I was in training camp.

Speaker 2 (02:01:23):
DT. I can't but anyway, ibout we'll see you to
guys tomorrow. Thank you for joining us for night camp.
I'm shoton sharp and he's chat o Jo Siko Johnson.

Speaker 1 (02:01:33):
I love y'all. We out. I love y'all. I love y'all, car,
I love y'all.

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.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Nightcap - Unc & Ocho react to Dak & Cowboys dominating Commanders, 49ers class of NFC, Teyana-Iman drama