Trevor Jackson Speaks On His Recent Break-Up, Bringing Back Love, & His New Album | Truth After Dark

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What point did you say like, she ain't she loves
me for me?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Like, like, what, what.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Man?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Has your ex text texted you? Since this song has heard.

Speaker 4 (00:19):
She hasn't. I'm definitely reaching out, like, wow, you're writing
all this.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
We don't want to break up, Yeah, I generally we
don't want to wake up.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
Women don't want to break up either, but unfortunately we're
pushed to that at one point.

Speaker 5 (00:34):
And I want to make sure that a lot of
older men understand that my dad is one of those people.

Speaker 6 (00:38):
I know a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Know he thought me, I have to get a back
older woman every time.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
No one watches it and said she's not feminine.

Speaker 6 (00:52):
No, we we.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Know they do. They come from me, those people.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Those people, then, well you're the one said I don't
say he is. He just said strong, strong voice.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
And stop doing this.

Speaker 7 (01:06):
This is blowing this right, It's like what this is?

Speaker 4 (01:15):
This is low We stop this like I'm not giving
blotty builder.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
This is the taking over the game, all right, everybody,
Welcome to Truth after Dark.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Do you think that men or women are more toxic? Hello,
beautiful people, welcome to another episode of the Truth after Dark.
I'm your host Aazar.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
For to Day and I'm your boy, Paul Truth the.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Truth, and Tonight we are joined by an incredible actor
with an incredible voice. You've seen him on Grown Ish,
You've seen him on Gray's Anatomy, and he just dropped
the EP I Love You Goodbye with a breakup album
on the way that everyone's waiting on. Please welcome Trevor Jackson.
This episode is also sponsored by the Aura House at

(02:28):
Orehouse Club. Please make sure you guys follow them and
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them out. All their information will be below. Yeah, we're
super excited to have you. So you have a new
album that's coming out, Yes, in about like a week
or so, right, nine days. So how are you feeling.
I know that it's a breakup album, right yes, So yeah,

(02:52):
like we got to get into this okay, cause you know,
of course, of course, I feel like to be creative,
you have to have that pain a little bit.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I'm excited about it.

Speaker 6 (03:06):
It feels like there's a weightlifted. You know.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
I have other music that I have done, but I
was like, I want to be able to move forward
in life, and I have this thing that I made
in a place of healing, you know, still resting on me.
So the fact that I get to put it out
into the world and could potentially, you know, help somebody
through their breakup or whatever.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
Yeah, then my job is done, you know.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
So Okay, can you talk to us about the breakup
a little bit?

Speaker 6 (03:27):
Yeah? I guess it just it just didn't work, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (03:31):
I think we were just two people young, trying to
make something work that just didn't, you know, trying to
put a triangle in a circle, you know what I mean.
Like it just it didn't work, and you know, it
ended she broke up.

Speaker 6 (03:43):
With me, which is you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Women always break Yeah, men don't break up.

Speaker 6 (03:49):
Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Women usually do the breaking up. But then we'll do
a lot of shit to make her breakup. And that's
the truth. How long were you guys together?

Speaker 6 (03:57):
About six years?

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Oh that's a bit? Were you holding on and fighting for?

Speaker 6 (04:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (04:03):
I think even when I maybe knew it wasn't the
right thing, just because I'm that type of person, like
my whole life, I've had to just kind of you know,
swallow my pride and just you know, even every if
everything doesn't fall perfectly into a line.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
I still know how to work through and push through,
and I think that was also to my own detriment
in this situation.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
You know, I'm just like I wanted to work, I
wanted to be right, you know, Yeah, and you know,
you live, you learn, and you I'm thankful for it,
you know what I'm saying. Where I'm at now, I
would go through it a billion times again. I was
able to create some incredible music and I think again
I'll be able to help a lot of people through
through a tough time.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
That's what I'm talking about. I've been through that before.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
I've been through relationship break up like the first Girls
Windows with like seven eight years and I felt like
it was over three years before it actually.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
Ended, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, yeah, but you try to make it work because,
like like you said, like we say, guys, we don't
want to break up.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, I genuinely don't want to wake up.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Women don't want to break up either, but unfortunately we're
pushed to that at one point.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
That's just a woman to break.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
I will probably say. I would probably say that there
isn't a specific final straw. I think women check out
emotionally far before the relationship, and men probably do the
same thing, but I think it just for women. It's
like for me, I'm just like that, I'm holding on,
I'm trying so hard, and then eventually you're just like damn,
like I can't keep doing this.

Speaker 6 (05:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
One question, because we talked about this, Uh did you
did y'all live together.

Speaker 6 (05:28):
For a period of time but not like actually you
know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (05:32):
It was like, you know, she'd say it for months
at a time or then you know, during a pandemic time.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
What do you think about if you're like, say, during
the pandemic, if you.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Slept on the couch or she slept Yeah, we talked about.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Is that what do you mean like if you just
was like, are usually sleep in the bed together, but
you just slept on the couch?

Speaker 6 (05:51):
Is that a that's weird?

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, this conversation now.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
I think.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
Also I'm huge on communication, Like I'm an over communidicator,
right because I went there to be clarity and you know,
I've learned.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
My lesson from not communicating.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
So if I am wanting to sleep on the couch,
I will make sure the person knows, Hey, this isn't
because I want to be far from you.

Speaker 6 (06:10):
This isn't because you know, I'll make sure that I
explain it properly to it.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
It's like, Hey, I just want to have a night
on the couch and watch me a little movie loud.
I know you're trying to sleep. I'm just trying to
maybe mine as well, you know what I mean. I'm
just trying to chill and relax and want to be
able to be you know. But I would never just
do that.

Speaker 6 (06:23):
Now.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
I've been on the other end where people may just
do stuff and I communicating like what the fuck is that?

Speaker 6 (06:27):
Like why are you? You couldn't tell me? And what's fun?

Speaker 5 (06:29):
I just want okay, But as your partner, I feel
like I'm old that the communication, especially if we're always,
if we're always, you know, sleeping together, I'm old communication,
you know what?

Speaker 4 (06:39):
I feel like the younger generation because how old are you?
Twenty nine?

Speaker 6 (06:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:43):
I feel like the younger generation of men like g Herbo,
he's your same age. She came on here. You guys
are more vulnerable and like communicative and like very open.
I think older generations are not that way because it
was more stigmatized.

Speaker 6 (06:56):
And also they couldn't be. They didn't have to say exactly.
And I want to make sure that.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
A lot of older men understand that my dad is
one of those people. I know a lot of people that.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
He me, I have to get a back old every time.

Speaker 6 (07:19):
The time.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
But I think that they just weren't get through that space,
and a lot of people blame them and throw a
lot of shape their way, And it's like, if you
were in that place, there just wasn't room for that.
There were so many other things that we had to
It's like, I can't be worried about this thing, even
if my heart hurts a little bit.

Speaker 6 (07:33):
I don't have room. I got to carry this family,
I got to carry this situation. And so yeah, there's
not a lot of space.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
And I think now it's been a lot more accepted
and we're seeing the benefits of how sharing your feelings
can you know, improve your mental health and your peace
and all these things. So yeah, I agree, but I
think it's because.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
Of the time.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
You're absolutely right all the time, because like me, as
an older man, like you said, like us growing up,
we had to like shoulder like being a tough guy. Yeah,
you can't show emotion, Yeah, you know, we got we
looked upon as that rock. Yeah, but the family and
it was it was frowned upon if you showed a
little emotion or.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
You cry, man, man, and it's like man, you get
punched in the chest.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
You right, Like now it's just like more out less
for it just and it's like it's like a it's
like a freedom.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
It's like like an emotional freedom. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
My dad now is crying more than he ever has.
He's like, son, what's wrong with me? I said, Dad,
You've held him for fifty some years, which you expect,
you know, so now everything that happens and he gets
a little tear, he's like, he's like, oh no, I'd
be like this.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
I'm like, Dad, you spent your whole life not crying.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
And I always I pushed him, Like one time I said, Dad,
sit in your car, I'm gonna send you a song.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
Lay the layer, seat back and listen to this song.
And he called back, He's like, why did you do that?

Speaker 3 (08:45):
So I was like, because you needed to let that whatever.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
I don't know what he was going with, but I
just like because I was in the car that day
and I listened to it and I was crying while
I was driving. I was like wow, And I said
to my dad, was like, in case you need this,
you know, and he did it.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
And there's just a lot of healing in that, bro.
There's a lot of healing.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
But I also think there's a balance where I do
think some younger generations, like younger than me, they don't
have enough ay get that carry that because you know,
me being in doing the things I've done for as
long as I can, I could have a trillion.

Speaker 6 (09:10):
Times given up, I could have treated times now.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
But because I was kind of raised with a little
bit of both, you know, I feel like there was
a time where it was like I don't care how
you're feeling about that, you have to get this done.
There's no there's not like what can you It's like
what you what must you do?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
You know?

Speaker 5 (09:23):
And I had to look at my life like that.
So I think it's a gentle balance. But I do
think now, I think there's a lot of people who
I'm just like, you're crying over that, you're giving up
over that, or you know, yeah, And I think there's
definitely a change in the generation.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
What makes you laugh, what makes you smile, makes.

Speaker 8 (09:43):
That's a loaded question only because only because I am
so like I love so many things, like I could
laugh at a baby, you know, falling down and like
jokingly and obviously not dying, or the baby hurting themselves
but like you know, or a baby surprise themselves, or
a dog doing so.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
I have two dogs, and I love comedy, so maybe
a stand up comedy show. What makes me cry probably
saying things seeing a baby, or like a dad and
the son having a good talk.

Speaker 6 (10:11):
You know what I mean. I probably cried some. I'm
a I'm a cry baby. I love it.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
It's it's yeah, it feels good.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
It feels good.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Okay, and what was the other one? Cry?

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Last laugh and comedy laugh?

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Smile, Oh, smile, smile.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
If you're just sitting there on the couch and you
just start thinking of this, you just like being a dad.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Okay, and you are not a dad yet?

Speaker 6 (10:33):
Correct? Okay?

Speaker 5 (10:35):
But I want I want kids, Okay, I love that.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
That's one of my main goals in life is just
to be a good dad.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
So, speaking of being a dad, you have a song
on your EP called kept It So is that about
a woman having an abortion?

Speaker 6 (10:50):
Yes? Okay, so through that, Yeah, I have. It wasn't easy.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
You know a lot of people neglect the man's feelings.
Abortion happens. Was it a mutual decision? Guys both did.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
Yeah, it's funny you said that that what you just
said was like the first sentence of the second verse
was a grown up decision that we both had. But yeah, exactly,
it was the thing that we both had to make,
and like, looking back on a nine, I think we
did the right thing.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
That's also in the song, but it's true.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
It's like, but I think the whole song it was
off of my experience, but also a friend of mine
who had said something like to me when we were
like talking, and he was like, sometimes it makes you
feel like you wish you just I was like, wait what,
I was like, yeah, right, because you can still see
him even if it's like they may not be with you,
but they're around. And it's like, maybe that's selfish, maybe
that's whatever, but these are just the honest feelings that

(11:41):
go through someone's head. And it's like everything that someone
thinks isn't what they do and isn't who they are.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
But I think going through that thought process is important.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
That's why I put all of these songs on this
album because they're all different ideas or thoughts.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
Of me I've had.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
I may not have acted on all these things, but
I had to go through all of these to get
to Boom.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
You know what I'm saying Where I'm at now.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
But if I neglected those thoughts and allow myself to
feel those things, I would be here but uncomfortably.

Speaker 6 (12:03):
You feel me, so like you get that.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Yeah, I feel like breakups to me are sometimes harder
than death because the person is still there, you know,
it's very very I hate it.

Speaker 6 (12:15):
I think I feel slightly differently. I don't know. I
feel like death is it's like.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
They're going forever.

Speaker 6 (12:23):
And I'm not saying you know what I mean, but
I get what you mean. Maybe in a relationship stance.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Yeah, I get both, Like I've been through both and
I know they're both really hard. But with the breakup,
it's like, you know this person is still there, you're
just not with them. It just hurts. It's I hate breakups,
like I'd rather go through anything else.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Has your ex text texted you since this song has heard?

Speaker 4 (12:44):
He has it? I'm definitely reaching out, like, Wow, you
writing all.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
This my story?

Speaker 7 (12:51):
Right?

Speaker 6 (12:52):
You know there's so this is for everybody, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
This is I know a lot of people who have
been through this situation, and I haven't heard it come
from a perspective. And I felt a certain way about it,
and I wanted to write about it, you know.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
But yeah, it was a difficult thing.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
I called my pastor, you know, I had to pray
over me and her and you know, trying to figure
out what to do. And you know, even after it
was done, I remember being in the car looking out
the window and like trying not to break down because
I didn't want this person to break down. But I'm like, damn,
you know what I mean, understanding you know, the depth
of it all, and hey man, never an easy thing
to navigate.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
But but I'm definitely.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
Glad music is there for me because I can always
I lean into it.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
Whenever I go through stuff in life, I just lean in.
I lean in.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, Well, I love more creating music or acting.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
I'd say music only because it's mine.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
It's it's so it's so mean that it's gonna be
the most it's gonna be the closest thing to me.
If people a million years from now, I wanted to
know who I was. You would listen to my music. Now,
when I'm acting, I'm taking somebody else and trying to
make them, you know, believable as me. Right, I'm taking
someone else's words, I'm taking another character, diving into that.

(14:01):
And when I'm writing, it's the words are mine, the
stories are mine, and even the harmony is the.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
Way I cut myself. I engineer myself.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
So it's like all of it is me, even in
the you know, the quickness of how I work.

Speaker 6 (14:13):
Like, yeah, that.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Makes sense because I know you have a passion for both.

Speaker 6 (14:18):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, they both have saved me.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
Yeah, you know, I say this story every time, so
I may sound like a broken record, but like there
have been times where I go to set and maybe
like you know, Litsten, I didn't read the script the
day before whatever, and I show up, but the day
before I went through a breakup and I get to
set and the scenes about me breaking up somebody, you know, like,
and I had said the words that I'm saying in
the script the day before, not knowing I had this
to do. So like they both have just showed up

(14:40):
kind of like spiritually in my life and have been like, hey,
this is for you, This is to help you, This
is to you know process.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Have you ever lost yourself in a role?

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Like and what I mean by that, like you just
find yourself becoming that person.

Speaker 5 (14:54):
I'd say Burning Sands was probably the closest I felt
to like a little bit out of myself.

Speaker 6 (15:00):
I just yeah, I played a guy in.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
A fraternity and I just really was trying to deprive
myself of sleep and just go through, you know, some
of those things that were happening, and I was committing
to that, you know, and I just noticed it even
when I came back from filming that people.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
That I knew they were like, yo, you're a little different.
Look even look a little different, you know.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
And it's not like I've changed drastically, but you know,
going through that process, I definitely grew as an actor
as a man. But also I did experience that kind
of like whoa, this is a different, different body.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Do you have to see somebody? Do you have to
talk to? Like, uh, what is a psychia?

Speaker 6 (15:36):
A therapist or a psychologist. I do go to therapy.
I love therapy. I think everyone should do it. I
think it's very positive therapy. But it wasn't to that extreme.
You know, I wasn't like, you know, getting out of here.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
It wasn't.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
But but guess what I do.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
I don't want to wish that on myself, but I
do want to get into that space of a role
that I feel that way.

Speaker 6 (15:56):
You know, like I really want to go.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
I always want to push myself whenever I'm doing so
where that's music or acting, I'm like, what's the next thing,
what's the next level? How can I go harder? How
can I be better? And I think actors like Joaquin Phoenix,
actors like Leonardo like you know, Daniel day Lewis, these
guys switch, Tearampayn, they switch.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
They turn to me and I want that. I want
to watch a movie and be like that.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Ain't TREVV even Lady Gaga does that. I feel like
it's method acting, right, just becoming a whole different person.
Denzel like, there's a.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Lot, but you gotta understand some of the characters. He said,
they've been in dark places. Yea, they went into some
dark sure, the three actors, he said, I've played some
dark characters.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
They're coldo, you know, and it's like they sacrifice, you know,
sometimes sometimes you do. I think it's important to pray
of yourself whatever you do, you know what I mean,
cover yourself. But some people don't, you know what I mean,
and go dive into a space and be like, hey,
what's kind of running this?

Speaker 2 (16:47):
You know, ship you.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Gotta But you know, Lady Gaga when she played in
House of Gucci said that she like lost herself. She
didn't know who the fuck she was. That movie was
so good and she was it had dark things and
she said she thought she would that person. She lived
that person every day. You know, like, that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
Jim Carrey did that for that one comedian I forget
his name, forgive me, but Jim Carrey played a comedian
and something and there's a whole documentary about that on Netflix,
which is pretty interesting.

Speaker 6 (17:12):
I love Jim Carrey in general. I think he's yeah, he's.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Intuitive, dude.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
But the documentary was dope.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
So top five actors, what would you say?

Speaker 5 (17:23):
Look, I always have this because I have my top
ten actors in here. I watched this thing every day
and I'm always like, okay, top ten.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Hold, we talk about this all the time.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
Okay, Okay, top five is hard, okay, But I'm trying
and break this down I'm trying to break this down
and only five, only giving me five of all time
favorite actors of all time. Okay, Denzel, Yes, Okay, Denzel,
Daniel day Lewis, Oh wow, Colin Farrell, Oh wow?

Speaker 6 (17:50):
Okay, how many is that?

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Three?

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Three?

Speaker 7 (17:53):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Ships?

Speaker 7 (17:55):
Good?

Speaker 6 (17:55):
Colin Farrell. I'm gonna give Sean pinn up in there.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
Okay, Sean, and I'm want to split the last one
between Leonardo and Schilte Buff.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
Wow, Shila Buff. He's up there for me, He's up
there for me.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
He's top five. Really Okay, I might have said six
to cheat a little bit. I got I got six
in there. You know who is?

Speaker 5 (18:14):
Yes, you do Transformers, Transformer movies and every I mean,
he's he's a piece bro, he's and he's somebody. So
he's one of my heroes that I got to work
closely with, you know, in life when you're like, hey man,
this person right, and I got.

Speaker 6 (18:26):
To work with him.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
We the movie didn't end up coming out, we didn't
filming it, but we rehearsed for it a bit and
he was one of the most inspiring. That was one
of those inspiring encounters I've had as an actor because
I admire him so much, but I didn't know his process,
and to see how extensive his process is and how
seriously he takes it and gets into it, I'm like, oh,
I had a whole new level of respect. But I
loved him since, you know, even Stevens Poles. But then

(18:47):
you got lawless his performance and lawless honey Boy, like
Peanut Butter Falcon. This guy's I mean, he's a monster
and all the transformers.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Also, my top five is Denzel Yep, Leonardo brad Pitt
because I love Fight Club, Classic, Viola Davis, and Damn,
I can't remember my last one, you go, I have
to think about.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
It, all right.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
I guess the consensus amongst us is yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
So I got Denzel. I also got Johnny Depp.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Oh, good one.

Speaker 6 (19:28):
That's a good one.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
I know he has one that's a couple of movies
that he's blow.

Speaker 6 (19:36):
Factory.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Definitely. I got Leonardo's in there.

Speaker 6 (19:41):
That's another.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
I have to say Eddie Murphy Man.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Hy up there like he plays because he plays so
many different roles, like the lover boy he played, like
the comedian he played.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
The cop.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
I think comedians deserve a category and having an Oscar
because I think comedy is actually to me a little
bit more difficult than drama acting. Yeah, you know what
I'm saying, Will Ferrells. And when you said top ten,
he's in my top ten.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Well, and then for my fifth one, I'm gonna go
with Nicole Kidman cold cool.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
You had Octavia Spencer on her his last time.

Speaker 6 (20:17):
He'd just be switching it.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah, heching hair the hair one I do. Okay, Yeah,
those are good. I can't think of my last one
at all, So I don't know. I want to give
it to like someone black, maybe Jamie fox Rage Jamie Foxes.
Yeah that was that was I mean, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Most talented in Hollywood in Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Wow, that's because of singing and acting and performing on
stage and hosting it. Like he has no weaknesses. Yeah,
like Jamie has no weakness.

Speaker 6 (20:52):
Yeah, he's definitely one of you know, one of the
few that can do it all.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
He can do any wrong and do it well. Yeah
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
So okay, So that no, No, I love I love that,
But no, I know that acting is not easy. Yeah,
and you've been acting for a long time since you were.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
Young, right, since I was seven years old.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Wow, Wow, I acted too as I'm not successful at it,
but I was.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
Definitely because you keep going.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Going, I was in commercials and everything place I can't see.
I think being a singer and an actor is just
your triple threat, double threat, whatever you call it. So
is it true that you and Zindia were in a relationship?

Speaker 6 (21:36):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (21:39):
I observed? Okay, good friends never been together. Okay, so
the rumors were putting them to rest. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay,
you're not. It doesn't seem confident, but I'm gonna go
with it. Okay. So I know that you talked about

(22:00):
like you know you've been afraid of being alone. Yeah,
so what would you say the craziest thing you've done
to avoid being alone?

Speaker 6 (22:09):
What I think?

Speaker 7 (22:10):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (22:12):
With you?

Speaker 5 (22:13):
Yeah, I think I think someone, I think someone. I
think maybe trying to stay in the situation.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
Maybe that might be probably right, like you're just because yeah,
nobody wants to redo it. Everybody.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
You know, time is a and you only learn how
valuable time is the older you get. Right when you're young,
you kind of don't get it. But it's like who
whoa whoa whoa whoa? I only got how much time?
I just lost my granddaddy.

Speaker 6 (22:34):
I just like, you know what I mean, Now I
gotta start, let's figure it out. You know, I can't
really play no more.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
So yeah, I definitely think that's the craziest thing I've done,
is maybe just try and try and stay in something
and knowing maybe something wasn't right for me or you know,
not can even go like friends too, hanging out with
friends because you just don't want to be alone, but
maybe they aren't the best influencers for you.

Speaker 6 (22:51):
That's been a thing of mine as well.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
That's true. So yeah, that's real. I think I learned
at an older age now that I'm an older woman,
that being alone, actually staying in a relationship that's not
for you, is making it. You're going to more say,
be alone than not because it's inevitable that it's going
to end. So now you're just getting older. Time is

(23:16):
getting you know, time keeps going. You're staying in a relationship,
You're stay in a relationship. You're afraid to be alone,
but the longer you stay, the more likely.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
Right right there, you will be alone because you ain't
going to look for someone else.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
Reship actually for you. I don't regret any of my relationships.
I regret staying longer than I should have because it
would have brought me to where I'm supposed to be quicker.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
So how I feel about that is I don't want
to regret any part because maybe in that you staying
longer than you should have taught.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
You a lesson than you You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
It's hard.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
It's like you can never if you feel like that,
you may never be able to actually have an opinion
because it's all relative. But I know what you were saying,
not just saying in general. It's like, Yo, you where
you are is because of the things that you've been through.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
It can't change anything. It may be a little different.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
So a few questions, Yes, please, Paul is going viral
per usual. And he said that or in order to
know if your woman loves you or not, you should
cheat on her. That's how y'all know she loves you?

Speaker 6 (24:12):
What are you?

Speaker 7 (24:15):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (24:16):
He said, it's supply that if your girl loves you
or not, you should cheat on her. I would like
to know what.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
You're uh before it gets taken out a com Yes,
I don't believe that a man should intentionally find that
out like and I said it in the conversation talking
about the men who said I found out unintentionally, you know, like, damn, she,

(24:46):
I guess she really loved me because we didn't have
been through something.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
I know what you're saying.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
You know, I know what you're saying. I know what
you're saying.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
So here, no, I get it.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
I get it.

Speaker 6 (24:53):
So here's what I want to say.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
Right in response to that, you're taking something that matters
a lot.

Speaker 6 (24:58):
Take out the cheating.

Speaker 5 (24:59):
It's some that matters a lot to the partner right
from you, right she feels.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
A certain way. It's a man cheating.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
I think whatever the level of intensity that is, if
this person can love you through that for him, like
whether it's cheating, whether it's something like let's say he
said this really bothers me, Please never do this.

Speaker 6 (25:17):
Let's not say it's cheating.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
Let's say it's I don't know, drove the car and
rectata or maybe I had a dui and.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
This stuff is literally I would leave you if you did.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
This because this matters this much to me, and this
shows me a sign of mistrust or whatever. And that
person does that and he can love you through that,
you know, I think it should go both ways.

Speaker 6 (25:33):
I think it's a hard thing.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
But what I'm trying to say is agree with him.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
I'm not agreeing with him.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
I just think if you really love somebody, there is
a way through and that goes both ways.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
I agree that goes both ways.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
And I think that there's just a lot of TV,
there's a lot of movies, there's a lot of stories
we hear that kind of tell us how the path
should go between men and women, and I think it
should go however. It works out in your own life
and you get to create your own reality with that.
You feel me, go ahead, But that's pretty much it.
And I'm just saying like, because there are other things

(26:09):
and for a man that may mean that much, that
may matter that much, and we're like, I love you,
it's good, you know what I'm saying, And that doesn't
I'm not saying like he's saying, don't go out and
do it just so you can say that, and I no.

Speaker 6 (26:20):
One should do it, right.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Yeah, I get what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
But you know what I mean, I think there's a
way through, and a lot of people feel like you
do this, you don't love.

Speaker 6 (26:26):
Me, And sometimes people aren't perfect or aren't fully grown
when you.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
Meet them, and and and it could be reverse in
another area of life, you know what I mean, Like
maybe in this area you aren't as.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
You know what I mean. I don't know get you.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
You've been a child star in the line like your
whole life, so you were You're meeting people you know,
maybe not so based on like the start on. I mean,
of course, handsome guy, you could you know, attract them,
you could get girls to come your way. So at
what point did you say like she ain't she loves

(27:04):
me for me?

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Like, like what what happened?

Speaker 6 (27:10):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Man, I say this.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
I'm gonna say this without saying this fool, because I'm
trying to hear the question.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I'm trying to answer this properly. How do you know?

Speaker 6 (27:22):
I think you know I'm going to.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Speak on.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
I'm trying to speak. I want to say this. I
want to say, like.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
You can think something like I can have an idea,
and then that could be totally flipped on its head, right,
And so I think I feel like I've been in
situations where I'm like, no, she would it's not that,
and find out when we break up, Oh, it was that.
I was just another one of that, you know, and
that's kind of the vibe, you know, you know what
I'm feeling, and I'm like, whoa.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
I'm like, I'm like, whoa.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
I thought that, you know, and you can hear it
from your brother, you can't from your mama, you can't
from you daddy.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
I'm like, you guys are wrong. You guys have no
idea list.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
Me, She's mine, okay, And we understand each other all
this stuff. And then you know, life goes on and
you start seeing patterns of people and you're like, oh, whoa,
and and and almost I was more mad at me
because I'm hard on myself in every aspect of my life,
you know, as martial arts is, acting and sing.

Speaker 6 (28:20):
I'm trying to be great, and I'm like, how could
you let this? You know? And I was pissing myself
for I'm like, Trevor, it's okay. You know, you're not
a mind reader.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
You're not You're not a But that was a hard
pill to swallow because I felt like I had a
good gauge on that, you know, I felt like I
could tell the difference. And for me, a lot of
time when I first started, you know, if I was dating,
if I was singing or whatever. I'm not a gift giver.
That's that's the first thing I did to ensure.

Speaker 6 (28:43):
That you were here because you want to be a round,
you need it, and also I don't want them for you.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
Hey, we're doing to do stuff together and feel like
if we spend time together to be like that.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
But this gift giving stuff, I've never been this guy.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
I've been asked.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
You know, I can get me back absolutely not sorry,
that's not how I get down. And they're be like, WHOA, Well,
I'm it's not like that. It's just you know, it's
what is one building it on that?

Speaker 3 (29:04):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
We can't build it on that because guess what if
that stuff stops coming and you leave, you know, that's
a bar. If that stuff stop coming, you leave. And
I've seen it happen. I've seen it happen people with
some people dry and then the minute that they're at
their lowest or the minute that you know, they show
a human side because they're supposed to be superhumans.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
And you can understand this, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
Being it, I got to be carry everything try you know,
because of the position that we've been putting in life.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
It's difficult. It's very difficult. There's only about.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
To carry There's only one way to find out if
a woman or a man truly loves you.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
You have to go through.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Something, yeah, honestly, like and it doesn't have to be
like the cheating things or whatever, but like, I don't know,
if it's like.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
You're dealing with a disease, like.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, lose a leg or you in a hospital, I
don't I'm not even saying it has to even be
that deep, but there has to be like a bump
in the road to where you kind of like took
a step back to real life, like damn, yeah, yeah,
you know.

Speaker 6 (30:02):
I also say it's an eye thing too.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
For me.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
I've noticed, you know, in life, the way people look
at me, you know, especially people that are close to me.

Speaker 6 (30:09):
And I've noticed the difference.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
Right, Like maybe I thought something was like hey, I
love you, but really was like I want to be you.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
Right, I've seen that before, and I'm like thinking.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
Oh, like Pruson loves me, but it's like no, they
either want to be you or what you got, you
know what I mean. I've kind of maybe felt that
and then when someone does love you.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
You can see that. I've seen, like the way someone
that looks at me. I can be like, oh, you know,
I don't know how to explain that. And I'm telling
you I've only gotten that, like when in the last
few years I'm like, oh, the way she looking at me.
I have never been looked at like oh you you
want to help you? And you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
It's just constantly I care about this creature, this thing
I want to be, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (30:45):
And I can see that without her having to say it.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
And do you think that, like, for instance, like someone
having like a being in your position specifically too? I
feel like love can also be determined by the type
of woman that you're with, and like does she want
to help you be better? Does she have your best
interest in mind?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Is she trying to make you grow? And is she
trying to do it even if it's not beneficial to her?
You know what I'm saying. Like, there's ways in which,
even with me and my relationships, where I can be like, look,
I think you should do this, even if I know,
like that doesn't really make me feel comfortable, Yeah, but
I know that it.

Speaker 6 (31:18):
Will be that's better. That's called maturity, and that's called strengths.
A lot of people don't have that.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
Yeah, that's beautiful, that's that you think, like that is
actually beautiful. A lot of people are so in their
own life, which we all should, right, we should care
about what we're doing. But I'm very big picture in it,
and it's kind of like f me over in relationships
because I'm like, how are we tripping and talking about this?
Like we're on a plan in that Like, I just
think big picture, We're on a plane in the middle
of space. There's things that I'm trying to do within

(31:43):
the world, trying to shift. I'm trying to put love
and life into it. And you know, so how are
we arguing about like the way that the thing is,
like you know what I'm saying like stuff like that.
But sometimes I can come off maybe and considering her
insensitive in that. But it's just because I'm thinking, you know,
big picture, large skill.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yeah that makes sense, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Well listen, no, I don't know. I just want to
go back before we move forward again, you know, before
we move forward again. Just know he got an album
coming out.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
Thanks man, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
I love you goodbye.

Speaker 6 (32:12):
That's the last thing she said to me on the phone.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
That's why the album's called that.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
That was the last thing on the phone.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
I'll give you.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
I'll give you a little story.

Speaker 6 (32:19):
So that's why I kind of wore this shirt. Man
and Steel is one of the focus tracks on the album.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
But I wrote it because when I go through any
type of emotional or depressing time in life, I'm watching
superhero movies.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
I'm a nerd.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
That's we were just talking about video games, you know,
you know how I get down, I'm Predator, I'm Superman,
all this stuff.

Speaker 6 (32:36):
Right, So I'll watch you Batman versus Superman. And she
called me.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
For us to have like this last kind of conversation,
and basically on the phone, I was like, look, you know,
I don't want this, but it's something you want.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
I understand.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
And she kind of went through a whole spell, and
kind of what I took from it was, Hey, you
can't love me and be this.

Speaker 6 (32:54):
Guy that you feel like you have to be for
the world. You can't do both right, and I don't
want to stop you from doing it, so I think
it's just best. And I was like, all right, if
that's you one. Then she's all right, I love you goodbye.
Boom right, go back to watching the movie.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
The very next scene, Superman walks in the bathroom, Lois
Lane's in the bathtub. Superman is like, what's wrong and
Lois Lane's like, She's like it's impossible, and he's like
for what She's like.

Speaker 6 (33:15):
For you to love me and still be you?

Speaker 5 (33:16):
I said, Oh, ran downstairs told my mom. I was like, look, man,
you need to know that this should this just happened.
You need to make sure that you know this. I
didn't just make this shit up. This really just happened
to me.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
And she was like what.

Speaker 6 (33:27):
And I went downstairs made a song called man and Still.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
But basically it's just representing that's like I'm supposed to
be a man and still. So it's hard to say
how I feel. I don't want to cry because it
makes it real the world all they see is a
man is still the one that they can't kill.

Speaker 6 (33:39):
But they don't know that I die to be your
man still, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
So it's like that's the song, but that's how it
came along, and all of the records kind of have
that kind of weight to him.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
You know, all right, I just figured out another thing
to really find out if a girl or God loves
you nor all right, here's another thing, and it's now
you have to cheat. Uh, you have to be willing
to give up something that you probably really enjoyed or love.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Compromise for that person.

Speaker 6 (34:16):
Yeah, well is it most people doing that? Because no,
people don't know.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Well, committing to a relationship. Man like to have sex
with women all.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
The time, say like she likes to go to the
club all the time, or she was a dancer.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
She won't get me that.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
What about even time when she wakes up she's but
because you know, we wake up, maybe I don't sleep
in as much because I want to wake up.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
And blah blah blah, vice versa.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
I think, Yeah, change in habits something that's that's another
thing to show, like if she's willing or he's willing
to like change that. And you know, it's kind of
like a either have it or have it that you like.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
You've been doing your whole life. Willing to change that.

Speaker 5 (34:57):
It takes for that, right, it's a lot of strength
and it's a lot of like you're saying, love, right,
I'm altering this thing maybe this habit, this part of
my life for you. And I feel like sometimes maybe
I'm speaking because I'm biaseding my man.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
I feel like for it, man, it is like overlook sometimes.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Like weed every day, and he want to be with
this girl. He quit smoking weed for her.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
That's love.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
Yeah, for sure, I know what you mean.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Said, no for real, just something that is a habit
and you quit it for that person.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
That proves, okay, just to be a devil's advocate, because
now we're just talking, all right, could be could that
be something to gain something else? If someone isn't a
race to gain something and the thing they're trying to
gain is more important than this thing they have to.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
Give up, they easily give that up. Right.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
So let's say, let's say smoking weed may be her thing, right,
but she'll easily stop that because you want to live
where she's living at.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
She want to sit where she's sitting at. She want
and it doesn't.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
Even have to be that she loves you, She might
love that life more.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
That's very.

Speaker 6 (35:58):
Like.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
No, it's true, but like habits is hard to break.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Because then now if they okay, so say they give
it up in front of you, they'll sneaking doing and
then they if you catch them doing it, that's cheap.

Speaker 6 (36:11):
I agree, I do agree.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (36:13):
I do agree with that. Honestly, I do agree with that.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
What have you given up in a relationship?

Speaker 6 (36:20):
Oh man?

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Do you feel the difference between compromise? Do you feel
like there's a difference between compromising sacrifice?

Speaker 5 (36:27):
I think men always have to do a little bit more, honestly,
that's my honest opinion.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
Men always have to do a little bit more compromising,
a little bit more. And it's not a lot, it's
not like, but it's a little bit more.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
We got to swallow the pill a little bit more
than you want to explain.

Speaker 6 (36:45):
I mean, he's just more I want to hear.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Why okay, because we got more ego to Yes.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
Yes, I agreed, one hundred percent. I think the strength
is is.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
In that I feel like, you know, I've been able
to be very apologetic and accountable, and I feel like
a lot of times, the majority of the times my
partner has not been you know, even over something SWNG right,
Like I've done something small and I've been like, look,
I want to apologize to you because I kind of
a bad day, and I can do that, right. It's
easy for me because I want you to know that

(37:21):
you're not the issue. I'm going through something and I
allowed that to hang on to you, and I apologize.
I've been in situations where that can linger for days,
four or five days, and now I'm sorry, effing feeling
weird because you're having an issue, but you don't know
how to communicate that issue to me.

Speaker 6 (37:37):
And so I got to swallow more prider than you gotta.
I gotta. And it's because you don't want to maybe,
or I don't know.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
I'm speaking about a multitude of situations, but the consensus
I've gotten is I've always had to just kind of sorry,
all right, Yeah, let's go because I'm driving the shit.
We gotta go where I have to go because I'm
making the money. Right, we have to go to this thing.
We have to go to this event. I can't go
to this event, and you have a problem. So I
need to clear the problem, make sure that we're straight
before we go in here, because I can't have any
issues in here, right. I don't think that you know.

(38:05):
On the other foot, it's the same. I haven't seen it.
I haven't seen it.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Do you think that women have a tough time being
accountable and apologizing period?

Speaker 6 (38:15):
Yes, yeah, I think everyone does.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
I'm gonna say for me, I think I'm actually a
lot better than you know, some people that I know
in terms of just apologizing and owning stuff up and
you know, just trying to get through it, because I've
been through so much and I actually have seen the
benefits of it, And I feel like a lot of
people who don't do it so they don't.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
See the benefits of it. But once you do, your like, oh,
if I just do this, we're good.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
But if I sit up here and I can't speak
what's on my mind and I'm mad for the next week,
I'm ruining.

Speaker 6 (38:44):
My quality of life. I'm wasting my time.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
Also, I'm wasting my time because I love you, you
love me. We want the same stuff. Why would we
spend these four days four hours being mad?

Speaker 6 (38:55):
And I'm not saying every issue can be fixed like that. Oh,
you just want me to blah blah. It's like no.
But if I'm here what you're saying, understanding it, I'm
on your side.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
I'm not against you. I want to hear what you
have to say. I want you to say what you
have to say?

Speaker 6 (39:06):
Now, what are we gonna do?

Speaker 9 (39:07):
Right?

Speaker 5 (39:08):
What are we gonna do now? Like, let's not so
that's a big thing for me when it comes to partners.
I can't do the child just you know, that's very
hard for me, very hard for me to like deal
because I'm like, I already got my braind's gonna explode
the amount of stuff that are that's in it all
the time.

Speaker 6 (39:22):
So it's like I needs you to and I've you know,
it's it's not like a it's not a horrible thing
I have to do with, but it's an annoying it
It can be sometimes annoying.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
But it's you know, you take the crookeds with the
straights in life. Again, that goes back to the stuff
I don't like. But I've yet to be in a
situation where it doesn't exist, which I'm fine with, but
it is something that can be agitating sometimes.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
So you mentioned that you have to go to sleep
with the TV on because your mind is always.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
What the heck these questions? That's a very true. You
have a reject crazy.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
So would you compromise that in a relationship if you
were with a girl that's something you can't copromize.

Speaker 6 (40:08):
I'm not sleeping on dark so the girls.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
To compromise the girls making She's like, I'm this man,
I hate the.

Speaker 6 (40:17):
Exactly kills most partners that I've had hated.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
Yeah, but I'm like, listen, I'm not gonna be able
to sleep like it, because I said, regardless of I'm like,
the darkness is louder to me than the TV.

Speaker 6 (40:31):
Like my TV's blasting, like I got I got.

Speaker 5 (40:33):
The JB, I got the projector that mugg is blaring
in my face, and that the only way I can
go to sleep. But if it's quadm and it's not
like I think something is getting me, but my like
the things I'm thinking about it. So I'm like, right,
but if if my brain can catch on to the movie,
I slowly slip off and.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
I'm in sleep. Damn, that's crazy. That's only likely.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
And also I'm also studying. Whenever I'm watching movies or TV,
I'm studying every second, and it's hard for people you
know that I'm with to be like, you know, you
just watched this movie yesterday. I was like, I know,
I'm watching it in two times today because I want
to see what I missed. I want to see why
that role was said. You know what I mean, that's
how I be and that is a sacrifice.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
So look, I would be watching the movie and say like,
like if I'm with a partner and I turn over
and they see me turnover not watching the movie and
they like, turn the TV out, I'm like, I'm listening
to it.

Speaker 5 (41:29):
Yeah, for real, I'll wake up if something changing, even
you know, sometimes it's just the battery or whatever.

Speaker 6 (41:35):
They'll just go to the same.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Screen always with me, you're not watching it.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
But you know what's funny, My mom told me that.

Speaker 5 (41:40):
My dad used to have VHSS and he would always watch,
you know, the same movies, and she said he would
wake up out of his sleep if it popped out
to pop it back and hit play and go back.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
And that is a man thing I feel because I
pitch black in silence.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
That's scar Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
And so if I'm like, that's a compromise, you don't
hear nothing like, no, I hear this usefulness of just
my life.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Oh my gosh, I'll I don't know, I'll be here.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
I can't.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
I have to be like in the dark. So that
would be definitely so do you feel like because I
always feel like there's a difference between compromise and sacrifice.
Like compromises I'll sleep with you in the bed with
the TV on, even though I hate that. Yeah, sacrifices
changing the core of who I really am. I don't
believe that you should sacrifice in a relationship because that
leads to resent me.

Speaker 5 (42:25):
Can you sacrifice a part of you that isn't good
for you?

Speaker 6 (42:29):
But maybe that is a part of it, right, because
that's where I've experienced.

Speaker 5 (42:32):
Right, It's like, Okay, this is my normal, this is
a part of who I think I am, but it
also doesn't produce the best side of me. Right, and
this person maybe you know. And I do feel like
it's a sacrifice. I do feel like I'm I'm cutting
something or something that is very whatever to me. But
it's like this thing is morphing me into something that's
so much more than that.

Speaker 6 (42:53):
Right.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
But I guess that is a I guess a compromising
if it doesn't feel too much like that. But I
do feel like there's something I sacrifice, And the more
I sacrifight that I realized it wasn't really a sacrifice
in comparison, to what I was gaining in the relationship
in comparison to who I was becoming, how the person
was Pulling this person out of me didn't feel like
a sacrifice anymore. But it took me some time to
do it. For a while, I'm like, well, look how
I've been living. I'm walking around my shoulders. I feel

(43:15):
like I'm getting bigger in the gym, like you know,
But because I made certain sacrifices for this person, and again,
I want to go back to the love I think
the right person even if they know, they'll they'll tell
you like, hey, that's not you know, that's not you.
They won't let you live any lower than yourself.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
Oh, they won't let you live any lower than yourself.

Speaker 6 (43:33):
Yeah, they won't let you. They won't let you.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
Now, I've been a relationship where I thought the person
loved me and would influence the lowest version of me.
You know, I've had that, And that's because now I'm
tangible you I'm supposed to be.

Speaker 6 (43:47):
God brought me here to be.

Speaker 5 (43:48):
Sometimes it can't be tangible, right, And when people see that,
it's like, how do I make it?

Speaker 6 (43:53):
How do I make them more? You know, come back
down here?

Speaker 2 (43:56):
You know.

Speaker 6 (43:57):
And that's how it felt.

Speaker 5 (43:58):
And that's for friends too. Got a bunch of friends,
you know that I felt that energy from. It's like, yo,
let's make him human again because right now, you know.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
He's two.

Speaker 6 (44:07):
Ship's popping off, shit's feeling good.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Amen, Come on, That's what I've been in a lot
of my relationships. Dim your life. You can be in
relationship with people who are in competition with you.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
Yeah, that's horrible.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Why are we here?

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Like seriously, like it makes you or they want to,
like you said, they want to keep you here because
when you're here, you don't understand your power and who
you are. And if you understood your power and who
you are, you you being with right, and that's what
you have to stay down. I'm going to influence all
the worst parts of you, so you don't know who

(44:41):
you are well said, period, you know. And then when
I do that, I'm going to continue coming back to
you because you're feeding that.

Speaker 5 (44:47):
And oh man, I've seen friends do that, even just
not to me. Like I know someone and her best
friend was on that like yeah, in the minute that
she started, it's like who are you?

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Like what?

Speaker 6 (44:56):
And it was getting mad at for being a better
version of herself.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
They always want to take I've been in a relationship
where someone literally told me I have to bring you
back to reality because people pump you up too much
and they make you feel.

Speaker 5 (45:07):
That's horrible, and that should be your number one support system.
That should be your number one, that should be your source.
You should be telling him to chill out, baby, He
should be out in public.

Speaker 6 (45:14):
You should be like, baby, don't say that. He's like
my girlfriend, you know what I mean, That's how it
should be. I feel like, yeah, she's incredibly even seen
the best part.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
You know, all of my past relationships have been exactly that.
Demming never felt good.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
And that's also just because they don't feel like you
said worthy to be next to you or you know
what I mean. It's like And unfortunately, I think it
is hard for a woman in that in that space,
you know, because especially when you're successful woman, you're a
beautiful wman.

Speaker 6 (45:40):
You had a man Mike feel little intimidated. That's the
only way you feel like he has that.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah, you know, I can see.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
Yeah, but I think too, it's been also my fault
because I've attracted I was at a certain frequency where
I wasn't feeling myself, you know, so I attracted at
a certain level. Always put it back on me, Like
what I was attracting was how I felt internally about
who I was.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
You know, used to be.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
No strong voice, very appendated, just strong, very just.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
I tried to come at me. I was strong. I'm not.

Speaker 8 (46:19):
Strong.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
Don't kissed me strong spoken, strong voice.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
It was like he's just trying to say I used to.
I gained a lot of weight. He doesn't probably know,
but I was too eighty. Every episode he has to
reference when I was not even.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Saying you you were a big strong by no strong.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
Energy energy example, I used to be so.

Speaker 6 (46:51):
Now still that was just a slipper. And you make.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Mistakes, Yeah, well you you you because like you used
to come off like a little more masculine. Now you
showing your femininity side of yourself, you know, which is great.
You got a good balance of it. But you could
be a strong, intimidating voice like like and that's real.

Speaker 6 (47:11):
It's a compliment, I.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
Think, Yeah, I don't think it is, but I'm there's
nothing like I'm going to continue to do powerful boy
like think about like certain like like like Michelle Obama
has a.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Very strong, strong like you, like, damn you.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
I will say this and I'm just gonna make it
very quick. I think that and women in a career
space have to tap into a lot of their masculine
side to be noticed, agreeable, to succeed. Like I've been
very successful in the podcast space, and it's because of
my voice. It's because I demand people's attention when I talk.
And I feel like in my real life I'm very

(47:52):
feminine in my relationships, I'm very.

Speaker 6 (47:54):
Can I just say you're very feminine, You're not not feminine.
Let's just make sure we say that, because.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
It sounds like you're one always comes for me.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
No one watches this and says she's not feminine.

Speaker 6 (48:04):
No, we we.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
Know they do. They come from me, those people, those people.

Speaker 6 (48:10):
But you're the one said I don't.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Say he did.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
He just said strong.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Strong voice is blowing me.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Stop doing this.

Speaker 7 (48:18):
This is blowing me this right, Yeah, it's like what
this is strong?

Speaker 4 (48:27):
This is blowing Stop this, Like I'm not giving body builder.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
With something like that.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Stop doing that. You're blowing me.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Very strong is hilarious.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
And the masculine title, because I just feel like women
we get that when we're successful strong.

Speaker 6 (48:51):
They're being sassy in feeling now when they say how
they feel. I can't stand this.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
To say, dude, stuff is ridiculous for videos and god, like, hey,
I don't rather you know sassy.

Speaker 6 (49:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
I was out one time and somebody and I was like, hey,
excuse me, like it was a fan approach, and I
was just maybe like in the way you just you know,
you kind.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
Of just came.

Speaker 5 (49:09):
I was like, I'm just trying to share with you
how I feel. That's cool, you know what I'm saying.
But it's like that's what I got when I had
an issue or something.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
I'm like, I don't like that something like that either.
And they say that about man a lot, like even
with men smoking hookah, Like any man smoking hookah is sassy.
Any man doing drinking lemon drop is sassy, Like he
can't like a little lemon in the drink.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
You know, some taste good.

Speaker 5 (49:31):
That's why I say what girls get all the goods
for drinks and if I'm drinking.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Yeah, like yeah, they everything is sassy apocalypse now, Like, man,
I hate it.

Speaker 6 (49:43):
I hate it.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
I don't go for that all right.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
I want to give back to the music let's do it.
You got music dropping in another week. Yeah, I love
you Goodbye.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
The Greatest breaku About of All Time. That's the full title.
I love you can buy the Greatest break About of
All Time. And I also wanted to tell you to
just kind of like, I don't know if you guys
saw the suit I was wearing and all this stuff,
So I said, when you get broken up with it
feels like you show up to the altar by yourself.
So I wanted like an eighteen hundred groomsman because a
lot of you know, amazing poets and those olden times.
I'm really inspired by those people. And you'll never see
a video of those people, but you'll hear their poems forever. Right,

(50:14):
it lasts, And I feel like that's how I felt
about this project, and I, yeah, I had that design,
so Pooj's my stylence. And then Lionel is an incredible designer.
He's done souff for Ciza and a bunch of other people.
He helped design the suit, and yeah, that was like
my main thing for this. Everybody was like Trevor, she
keeps asking me who, I said, I need a suit made.
We had it made. I was like, it's all wrong,
start over right. Then I finally got it the way

(50:36):
I wanted it. But it's a huge part of that.
And I also feel like, you know, someone that looked
like me back in that time couldn't afford garments like that,
So I'm like kind of flexing for them too, and
that's kind of the birthplace of the whole visual and
you know, and it's like, you know, funeral.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Staying on the music side, I want to talk about
today's music. Yeah, like what do you think and how
do you think that today's music is affecting our love
and our relationship?

Speaker 6 (51:01):
Like this is so great. I will say this.

Speaker 5 (51:04):
I'll say a lot of people's issues with music, those
same people are the reasons the issues exist.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Right.

Speaker 5 (51:13):
So it's like I'll see a lot of women maybe
have an opinion about, you know, how a woman is
being treated or whatever, but they're the same ones, you know,
singing the songs that are you know, exactly, and it's
just hard to gauge right for men too. Men will
be singing songs like this, and like, how do you
expect someone tell you seriously, you just said you have
five baby and.

Speaker 6 (51:31):
You're trying to do this and you're trying to do that,
you know. So I do think it's hard.

Speaker 5 (51:35):
And I will say the one genre of music where
they talk about family, wife and husband is country music.
And I do think this is all agenda based. I
think this is all if they're black, let's make sure
that we keep the shit going right. We want to
keep only one mom in the household. We want the
dad to be you know, and that is that is
perpetuated by the music that's perpetuated by certain movies and
white people. A lot of white people listen to country

(51:56):
music and pop music, and it's very family oriented. It's
very husband why I can't wait to get home to.

Speaker 6 (52:00):
My kids type records.

Speaker 5 (52:02):
So I think that's something that's missing and something that
I'm trying to create.

Speaker 6 (52:05):
I think this is just.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
The beginning of, like, you know, my my story that
I have to tell. I have a lot more albums
that I'm sitting on and I'm going to release, but
I want to get to that point right to where
the biggest artists can also be the healthiest lifestyles.

Speaker 6 (52:20):
A lot of people want to be.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
Quote unquote successful, which is money, cars, big house, career,
but no one's happy, right, so I think there should
be that has to be in there, and I would
like to bring that, you know, to the forefront. I'd
like to do more of that, and that only comes
with honesty, and that's what I think. This album is
just me being completely honest about where I was at

(52:44):
and you know what I was going through.

Speaker 6 (52:46):
But I do believe that.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
I do believe. I know you said voice to man
is one of your right and they complimented, Yeah, that.

Speaker 6 (52:56):
Was a deep, deep moment for me. I was going
through a lot already that just mentally.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
And then you know, I walked in there and I
seen when I've seen them, and I'm like, first of all,
I'm I'm the type of person like, although I've been
in this for a long time, I'm a fan first,
Like even me sitting across from Paul Press, I'm like, now,
you know, we met a few times, but still I'm
kind of like, oh shit, you know what I mean,
this is happening, So that'll never go away from me.
I'm always a fan and then turned artist. So when

(53:23):
I saw them, I was like getting teary. I was
like almost crying, and they were like like everybody thinks
I'm playing I'm.

Speaker 6 (53:29):
Sure that tune.

Speaker 5 (53:30):
I'm like, Paul, You're probably like this, dude's a lot,
but it's because I really feel this. I'm like, I
can't believe this is happening, right. So I told him that,
and I was like, guys, like, this is this is
my dream come true. I mean like I've listened to
either reason I know how to sing, like I listened
to your records, like you're making us proud.

Speaker 6 (53:44):
We see everything you've been doing. Man, keep going, keep
killing making us proud. You're doing this justice right. And
to hear that from them, to.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
You know, I heard co Sign was doing a podcast
and he had said, I feel like Trevor Jackson suffers
from being too good right, quote unquote. And I feel
like I have been overlooked as an artist because maybe
I look good or because maybe I'm a successful actor.
So it's hard for people to give me my flowers
when it comes to music. But I do this shit
like I'm writing the shit I'm recording myself, and I

(54:11):
do it at a very high level.

Speaker 6 (54:12):
And to hear them say it, I didn't need nobody
else to say it. Boys to men what it was like, Okay,
I'm straight, you know what I'm.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Saying, Genuine was putting fire signs on your genuine.

Speaker 6 (54:24):
That's another thing. That's amazing. That's amazing.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
Yeah, these people, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (54:29):
It's an honor. It's an honor man.

Speaker 5 (54:31):
And yeah, I was just saying, like I still trip
out to be in spaces with these people because I'm
a student when I want to do something. Just like
I'm sure how he's studying game film or anything like that.
I am studying these music videos. I'm studying the boys,
I'm rewinding it. I'm pressed playing for hours at eleven
years old, you know what I mean. At eight years old,
I was just always trying to and then I'm meeting

(54:53):
these people Like I ran into a Mario on the
other day and I'm like, bro, you don't understand. When
I first moved to La, I was eleven years old.
I walked by you in the bell here's mall my
ass off. I ran down to the food court. I
begged them for a pen and paper. I said, on
minds over here, ran back, you signed my ship and
I got in my house right now. It's in my
house right now. But it's like I'm not and I
feel like a lot of people lose that right, you

(55:13):
get into it and you start becoming numb to the ship.
And it's like, yo, we are superheroes in a way
and we have to remember that and carry that. You
know when people when people walk up, I remember.

Speaker 6 (55:22):
Being a fan.

Speaker 5 (55:22):
That's why I'm always like, Hey, how you doing, what's up? Hey,
I'm nice to meet you. I'm never you know what
I mean. I'm always just because that could create the
next Michael that could create the next you know, Kobe,
that could create the next Paul that could create the
next you know what I mean, Just by being like, hey, man,
keep going all of that this right here, and that
could take someone will imagine that when they go to
sleep and the hardest day of their life, they would

(55:44):
be like he said, keep going that, boys, and man,
I'm gonna remember that. I'm gonna go through more ship
in life.

Speaker 6 (55:48):
That's life. I'm gonna go through our and I'm my
question who I am? Trevor? You and I remember that
moment a boy.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Told you that, bro, So you know what I mean,
that's dope.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
I love them because I had that moment. You know,
we're like, I'm out and someone like Kevin har Is
like your don't keep.

Speaker 6 (56:05):
Going like you know, you know who I am.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
I mean, like just little stuff you think about things
like that, you can't. You have to stay humble and
remain humble no matter who you meet or who you're
So one last question, what do you feel like? Because
I know you spoke about country, but I do also
feel like and Paul talks about that that R and
B from back in the.

Speaker 9 (56:26):
Day, boys to men jagged and you know, yeah, all
of these people they were thinking about loving a wanting
a woman, needing a woman, Like where do you feel
like that transition?

Speaker 4 (56:40):
What law?

Speaker 6 (56:40):
Like?

Speaker 4 (56:41):
What happened? And then I noticed more women like Cardi
b Is. You know, city girls and broke boys don't
deserve no nothing like this whole happiness.

Speaker 6 (56:52):
Let's just be real.

Speaker 5 (56:53):
Even if you saying those sentences out loud, it's like
you can't possibly believe that that will bring you happiness.

Speaker 6 (56:57):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (57:00):
Love going music, Yeah, and I'm here, I'm here bringing
back Okay, okay. Even in the breakup albums, you hear
the love right, it's not yeah I'm dead.

Speaker 6 (57:10):
That's how I felt.

Speaker 5 (57:10):
And also after the breakup, I tore my achilles I
was down bro Then I had stuff.

Speaker 6 (57:14):
Two weeks after she broke up with me. I tore
my achilles.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
Then I had stomach issues while my kids. I was
in the hospital. Then my back is shoes. I was
going through everything in my life, right, Me and God
was talking, right, God, what's happening?

Speaker 6 (57:27):
Why is this?

Speaker 5 (57:28):
And I have to go film Grownish in a week
and I have to go be on tour. So I
went on tour with the dang boot. I was shooting
Grownish with the boot on going back?

Speaker 2 (57:36):
What's what side left?

Speaker 9 (57:38):
All?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Right?

Speaker 6 (57:38):
Right?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Sorry? Okay? Because you know that correlates.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
You know, if you see an energy person, like if
you have injuries to one side of your body, that
has something to do with like kind of relationships I
had to go through, you should see an energy person.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
I didn't know that that has something with relationships because.

Speaker 6 (57:53):
It was literally two weeks.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
After two weeks, it might have like just one side
of your body going through stuff.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
Yeah, it was a da after christ I tore myn achilles.
After Christmas. I only get to see my family once
a year.

Speaker 6 (58:02):
I was there.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
It's a thing.

Speaker 5 (58:04):
Yeah, tour it but wrote this whole album in the cast.
I had to keep raising my foot up because all
the blood was rushing, so I have to wait between
verses writing down put my foot back up, you know.
But the result is this project, and I think you
can really hear it.

Speaker 6 (58:17):
I hope you guys get a.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
Chance to top to the bottom and then the album
release will be next week.

Speaker 6 (58:20):
Hopefully guys can come.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
That'd be sick, but just to hear it in its order,
because I the reason why I did this breakup, broke
up the project like that is because I did on
my last one, and it helps, you know. Fans want
more stuff, but I make albums and I make them
to go in order. I'll sit there for days at
a time, be like no this only no, no tray that
back up, you know, so it can go.

Speaker 6 (58:38):
Through all of the stuff the way it's supposed to
be done.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
I love how you did, I love you EP and
then goodbye. That's really dope. Absolutely yeah, it's good. It's
really good. It's vulnerable, it's open, and I feel like
we need so much more of that.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
We need nor love back, we need.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
I got you, I got you man, We appreciate that.
So where you leave, I'm going to have you answer
one of these questions with one word only. Okay, one
word why do men cheat?

Speaker 6 (59:11):
One word freedom?

Speaker 5 (59:14):
Mmm?

Speaker 4 (59:15):
Okay, I would say ego. You said ego too? Is
that what you would say?

Speaker 2 (59:23):
I forgot we did this before. I forgot what I said.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
What about one word why women cheat?

Speaker 6 (59:28):
Revenge?

Speaker 4 (59:29):
M Oh, that's a good one. I could see that.
One word what scares you most in love?

Speaker 5 (59:42):
Mmmm?

Speaker 4 (59:44):
That's good. One word what makes you lose feelings?

Speaker 6 (59:50):
Mmm?

Speaker 2 (59:56):
For me? Disrespect? Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
I was going to say. This isn't one word, but
it's like lack of consideration.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
Yeah, so kind of the same thing. Yeah, I can
get that. Now. If you had to give one word
to describe I love you, goodbye album, what would it be?
I'd just say your ex's name. If you want, you

(01:00:28):
for sure get that text rebirth? Ooh, I like that.
If God could send you a text message right now,
what would it say?

Speaker 6 (01:00:38):
Stay the course, Stay the course, man, stay the course that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:43):
I also don't want to know too much, right And
I found this out throughout my life, and I saw
this said one time and it stuck with me for
a minute. It was like, if God told you everything
you had to go through to get to what you
want in life. You probably change what you want.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Oh I've heard that. That's good.

Speaker 5 (01:00:58):
I heard that, and I said, oh my, and this
is I heard this after the tear and stuff. So
I'm like, if God when I was young, was like,
you're gonna break your leg, You're gonna go through one
of the worst heartbreaks, maybe go to three through three heartbreaks, right,
then this is gonna happen. This person's gonna lie, your
best friend is gonna do this, and then you're you know,
then you're gonna lose this person and your grandma's gonna
You might be like, hey, dude, I'll just go to
seven eleven. I can be the dude at the front,

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like you know what I mean. I can be in traffic.

Speaker 6 (01:01:21):
Guy, I don't care, Like you know, you might change
your dream.

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
But God, God knows, and he does it in his
own time, and I'm super thankful for it. So I
just say stay the course because I don't regret anything
I've done. Sure, I maybe wish whatever, but I'm thankful
for where I'm at. I'm thankful for who I am,
and I know I got a lot more to go.
But the only way to lose is to stop or
to give up and I'm not that type of I'm
not cut like that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
That's real must have it album coming out.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
Did you know that I'm good at this? We did
this with Kevin Gates.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Did she know that?

Speaker 6 (01:01:51):
And she waited till the answer. She get all the information,
then use it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
In that second, you could ask my friends, I guess everything.

Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
I need you to guess my brothers when we're done here, because.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Well, I okay, Well, thank you Trevor. Please you great.
We're so grateful to have you. We're so grateful to
have you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
I hope my handshake wasn't too No.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
It was strong.

Speaker 6 (01:02:12):
It was a little too strong for me.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
Oh you guys, Trevor has the best breakup album ever
coming out, I Love You Goodbye. If you're going through
a breakup, if you're feeling down about yourself, or if
you're even feeling good about yourself, if you want to
get back to the love and music, make sure you
guys check out because I Love You EP Goodbye EP
And in about a week he will be dropping November
twenty first, November twenty one, Make sure you guys tune in.

(01:02:41):
It looks fire. We'll put all the information below so
you guys can click everything, follow Trevor and all that.

Speaker 6 (01:02:48):
Yay, thank you, I appreciate you, of.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
Course, thank you Trevor.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
So much good.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
I'm so freaking out, can do it now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
The interview is over.

Speaker 6 (01:02:57):
I'm only taking.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Thanks for join us after Dark a.

Speaker 8 (01:03:04):
P.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
This is the taking over the game, all right, everybody,
welcome to Truth after Dark.

Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
Do you think that men or women are more toxic