Baylor’s AD Steps Aside— CFP Effect, Heisman, Deion Sanders Next Move

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Amson.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
This is the College Football Apostles and you can catch
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(00:26):
the box things that you actually need to know. We
gotta talk to you today about Brian Kelly. He's like,
give me all my moneys. Mac Rhodes gets kicked out
of the CFP, despite he said I did it on
my own, give you my Heisman Top five. Kirk Herbstreet

(00:47):
is trying to go full Joe Klatt slash Pat McAfee.
The ACC doomsday scenario, Michigan State vacates wins and changes quarterbacks,
the NC is paying out another three hundred million dollars,
and terrorist attack, terrorist threats against Louisville.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, man, and a whole bunch more.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
We will start where we always start, but first make
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and we will continue to grow onward and upward. Ralph, So,
what was your biggest takeaway from last week?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
My biggest takeaway from last week is that Kirk Herbstreet
must not hang out on Twitter. Well that was somebody
else must be running his stuff. Well, he published like
a nice little soliloquy about love it because College Game
Day went to Luck for their game against undefeated previously
undefeated BYU.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
And.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
You know, he fell in love. Said, Lubbock is everything
that's right with America. Texas Tech fans are everything that's
right with college football. You know, send your kid to Lubbock.
It's you know, they they they love America, they love football.
It gives you optimism for the next generation. Kind of
felt a little bit like coded language of like, hey,
there just weren't a lot of purple haired nose piercings around.

(02:21):
But you know, but I just my immediate thought was,
you know, because my experience in the Big twelve is
limited to the last two years, I've always thought Texas
Tech was cool as hell. I had a poster of
Darvin Ham shattering a backboard on my wall when I
was young, Like I my kids love Texas Tech basketball.

(02:41):
I've been to Lubbock to cover games. And I've always thought,
you know, I loved Mahomes when he was in college.
I've always thought that Texas Tech was cool. But in
the last two years, I've got to experience what being
in a conference with their fans is like. And it's
miserable they are.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Why see, I haven't had any negative note Actually that's
not true. I haven't had a ton of experiences with
Texas Tech folks, but the one or two that I've had.
Remember last year, I said, coaches that are under the
when we made the video, coaches under the most pressure.

(03:21):
And Joey McGuire was on there and their fans were like,
what are you talking about.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
There's no pressure for Joey McGuire.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I was like, of course, there's pressure. I didn't say
he was on the hot seat, but he was under
significant pressure because so many resources are being poured into
Texas Tech, and if you pour resources, they are going
to be expectations. It's the same reason. It's the exact
reason why Brian Kelly got fired at LSU, the same

(03:48):
reason why James Franklin got fired at Penn State and
Brent Prye at Virginia Tech. It's the expectations that weren't
met now granted on a whole another note, My biggest
takeaway from this last weekend was when Penn State almost

(04:09):
beat Indiana. People are no longer giving Oregon credit for
that Penn State win, but they'll some kind of way
want to give credit for like South Carolina and Florida
wins to the SEC, which is weird because it's literally
the same win a very talented team without a quarterback

(04:30):
and without a head coach. But is that Penn State
If they didn't put all their hopes and dreams into
beating Oregon, they would still be right now. They would
be seven and two competing for a college football playoff spot.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Do you think so?

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (04:56):
I don't know if I agree with that, because I mean,
I'm old though enough to remember two months ago when
you said that you didn't think Penn State was very good,
but you said Penn State was good, and then you
watched them play and you were like, ah, good and terrible.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Because it is Nick and I figured it out.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
It is Andy kot Nikki. It is their offensive coordinator
that is the problem. It wasn't James Franklin. Well, I
mean it was James Franklin's fault for hiring him and
then allowing him to do the same thing. But after
last year he should have been like, no, no, no,
we're not going with this trick nick stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
No more like we're.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
And people were like, well, the offense worked at Kansas, correct.
You need an offense, a tricky offense to work and
win against Oklahoma and Texas in the Big Twelve. In
Kansas State in the Big Twelve, like you need something tricky.
It's just like Mississippi State under under Mike Leachs running

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the air raid and what they run now and up tempo,
fast faced kind of air raid thing. It is a
gimmick offense to help or just like the triple option
at Navy and Air Force, those are gimmick offenses to
help nerf the talent disparity between teams. And when you

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get to Penn State, you get to LSU, you get
to Oregon, you get to Alabama, your talent is so
much better. You don't have to rely on gimmicks and
trying to like trick people all the time. Because Penn
State against Indiana, they lost that game on their last

(06:43):
drive when they just essentially quit on the drive and
just were like, we're we're gonna run and punt and
then and then they Indiana drove down instead of really
trying to get a first down. And on that third
down play, they lined up in an unbalanced look but
put the tight end at where the right tackle would

(07:04):
be and then flopped over all the linemen and tight ends,
hoping that Indiana would then drop the tight end and
think he was the tackle. And it didn't work right,
just line up, spread them out like you would do
on third and long and normal, or throw it on

(07:24):
second down and be aggressive trying to get the first down.
But instead ooh ooh oh, I got this trick play
in my back pocket to work right now?

Speaker 3 (07:34):
No, I feel you. I think that you know, the
spread option that what was that Art Briles and rich
Rod right kind of brought that That brought as much
parody to college football as the you know, house settlement
will and so it in You and I have talked

(07:56):
about this a lot. There are teams that have to
run it because you can't just line up and trade
punches with somebody. You know, these teams are going to
lean on you. They're gonna choke you out, and that's
what we saw. And I think that's what's so impressive
about what Texas Tech did against BYU is for the
longest time, they were running the spread so that they
could keep up because they couldn't stop anybody. Well now

(08:17):
they can stop you, and they can lean on you,
and Cameron Dicky can run the ball, and you know,
David Bailey and Romelo Heights will punish you for for
hanging out in the pocket. They got a little bit
of everything, and now they act like one of the
big boys, and their fans seem to think that they've
always been one of the big boys. And so I
am I am not actively rooting against Texas Tech at

(08:40):
this time, but I will say that I have been
messaged by Baylor fans, TCU fans, Texas fans, Texas A
and M fans saying welcome to the party. And now
we now we're stuck dealing with these people because they're good.
Texas Tech football is really, really good, and so either
of their fans are gonna not be insecure and find

(09:03):
their place, or there can going to continue to be
a bunch of yellow jackets just stinging everybody in their orbit.
And I do this is a message to Texas Tech fans.
I appreciate you congratulating Arizona State on their Super Bowl
because they rush the field when beating you. That you
don't get to use that anymore if you rush the
field after beating BYU. So congratulations on your Super Bowl.

(09:26):
I guess we both havel.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
I see what you did right there, I see what
you did right there.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Let's get into today's top story. The first and foremost
what I want to get from you is I would
love to get your top five right now for the
Heisman if it was today, who the five players would
be that that would be sharing a stage from which
one winner would be picked.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Okay, my Heisman top five right now, And as a
Heisman voter, I can't tell you who I'm voting for,
but I will tell you the five people who are
most impressive to me at this point in time. Let's
go with Jeremiah Love from Notre Dame. I think he
has been impressive. He's carried the team on some level.

(10:14):
Ralph hates this, hates this, but I've just loved the
way the kid has played. He's been good in the
past game and the run game. I like what Julian
saying is doing over at Ohio State. I am also
concerned about voting him the Heisman winner, only because he's

(10:38):
got an embarrassment of riches around him, and it feels
like that they would have the same So let's say
that he's a nine and a half out of ten, right,
it feels like they would have the same record if
he were an eight out of ten. And that's the part,

(11:02):
like it doesn't feel like there's a significant elevation, Like
if you stick Will Howard in this offense, it's gonna
be the same thing. Like, it doesn't feel like that
that he is the reason why this is happening for them.
I gotta put Fernando Mendoza in there. I think his

(11:25):
efficiency and just absolute. I mean, he's been incredible. He
has been incredible, But people think he's been throwing for
three hundred yards a game. He only has one three
hundred yard passing game this season. But he has been efficient,
he has been accurate, he's been timely, he had a

(11:46):
Heisman moment in a comeback versus Penn State. Love all
of those things, and yeah, so he's got to be
on there. Haines King, oh, I can't say enough about
Haines King. When you talk about carrying a football team,
literally he is their leading rusher and their leading passer.

(12:10):
And remember quarterbacks get docked for rushing yards for sacks,
so so so he is still by far they're leading
rusher and and and he's getting sack yards taken against them.
So yeah, so him and then probably fifth I would

(12:34):
probably put I know that this is gonna sound right,
weird people. I want to go with two players, right.
I want to go with dary Mensa from from Duke

(12:57):
because he has been outstanding. I know it has his
team is only five and four right right now, but
he has been outstanding. And my last one would be
Brandon Finnie from Oregon true freshman corner. He's probably going

(13:19):
to be an All American, not a freshman All American,
but an actual All American as a freshman. Pretty incredible,
like he has taken this, like he is the reason
why Oregon's defense is number one against the past because
since Game one, damn near, they have left him on
an island. He's on an island and they are just

(13:41):
playing with and they're playing nine on ten for the
rest of the field. They're leaving this true freshman alone
with everybody highly impressive. I want to see him versus
Jeremiah Smith is what I really want to see.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
I agree with a couple of yours. I think you
got to keep Mendoza in there. I would kick out
Jeremiah Love. I just let him have one of those
big games against somebody who matters. Let him do it
once and maybe Pitt. I don't think Pitt is enough,
and we'll get to that, but like maybe you know,

(14:23):
for me, he's not. He's not in the conversation right now,
but I would. I would have Ty Simpson over Julian
saying he is turned the ball over what once?

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, and that.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
In Air two, his.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Stinker against Florida State was ten times better than Julian
saying stinker against Texas. And so that's that's why I
would have him, And then I would have.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Run game.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Now Alabama through No, I'm dead.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Serious, very terrible. They're awful, dude.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Alabama right now is they are eight and one, so
they played nine games. In nine games, Ralph, what would
be a terrible amount of yards for Alabama to have
rushed for total on the entire season. This is garbage

(15:28):
time included every single rush yard added up? What would
be a terrible number?

Speaker 3 (15:36):
You mean the team that got Heisman's for Derrick Henry
and Mark Ingram. I would say fifteen hundred yards. Anything
below fifteen hundred yards would be alarming.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Fifteen hundred would be fifty more than what they have
right now. They have one thousand and seven total rushing
yards one thousand and seven.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
I don't want to give you PTSD, but do you
know who this team reminds me of?

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Who?

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Twenty twenty three Washington?

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Oh, that's not going to give me peep PTSD because
Oregon's pass defense is better. I want to play Alabama,
please please now now.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
But I'm saying, I'm saying, like what the one time
Washington was able to run the ball was the Pac
twelve championship all year? But I and the other one
I would throw, I would say, you're probably not gonna
give a Heisman to a linebacker. Jacob Rodriguez maybe deserves
a mention. But I would kick Jeremiah Love into the
sun and add David Bailey like that's to me, and

(16:44):
maybe they should come up with.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
You said kick him to the sun and add who
David Bailey? Okay, yeah, yeah, leading the nation leading the
Big twelve and tackles for loss, leading the nation in sacks.
And maybe maybe there needs to be like a purchase
of the year Heisman, you got bought off somebody else's
tech transfer of the Year.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, And I think I might have on this show.
I might have said that Texas Tech overpaid for David
Bailey because it was a scarcity thing. It was like
the end of an auction fantasy draft when you got
fifty bucks left, so why not use it on a
kicker because it was a it was a deflated market
where only Bear Bachmeyer, David Bailey, and like one receiver

(17:27):
went went onto the transfer into the transferportal because they
fired Troy Taylor. And so you end up, you know,
bidding against everyone in the country to get him to
Texas Tech. And I at the time, I was like, Okay, yeah,
so a d N got two and a half million,
but that doesn't mean he's worth two and a half million.
I would just like to say something to that man
who said that me from two and a half months ago,

(17:50):
you're a moron.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
David Bailey twice, Oh dude, he is worth every dollar
in the bank right now.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Question though he's got a two year deal. Do you
stay if you're him? Depends?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Am I gonna be a top Am I gonna be
a top thirty two pick? If so?

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Sayonara, sayon know, I'm.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Looking at it. I'm looking at it now, and he's no.
This is actually his fourth year, so he's gone. He's gone.
And what that brings us to our next thing? Who
would you you're a top five you got top five
NFL draft pick. We've done plenty of NFL stuff for
on Afraid Show, almost all college football and in the
last year. But you know what, what are you looking
at to make your Are you buying into the Fernando

(18:39):
Mendoza number one?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
I'm not drafting none of these quarterbacks with number one
overall pick, but I pretty much only see probably one
first rounder for sure. What I'm looking at in terms
of who should come out because people are going to
try to and that one first round pick right now
is Fernando mendo That is a clear cut. He's got

(19:04):
The amount of starts, winning percentage is just constantly climbing
because he's gotten competent. He's been in a competent situation
instead of being over there. Huh.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Personality, I think he can handle it.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yes, he's made big throws, he's won, he's played in big,
big games, been coached up, all of those things. Love him,
Leonora Sellers, Stay in school, kid, Stay in school. Fool's
airing to go out right now, you are Anthony Richardson
two point zero. If you go out of school, Dante Moore,

(19:41):
stay in school kid, you are. You have every single
ounce a bit of talent in the world. He will,
He'll be in a situation where he will like his
skill set like, He's not gonna have a Garrett Nussmeyer
type season where it falls apart. It's just not gonna
have happen because he's too good to do that, and

(20:03):
he's playing on a good football team.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
So he needs people who think that your boy is
a top five pick though.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Who Dante, Yeah, there's some people who think. No, no,
I think, but he came out.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Dante, ty Simpson and Fernanda Mendoza would be amongst the
top five picks.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
They both right now. Ty Simpson, same same way. Stay
in school kid. It is that history says that people
have won the Super Bowl have at least thirty starts
in college. They have the like I believe in the
Bill Parcells model. It just has worked. Have more starts,

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have a good, good winning percentage, you know, all all
of these things they matter. And Jaden my my villa,
stay in school kid, All of these kids need to
stay in school.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Now. I will say though that I.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Do like like, for for instance, people are all over
Joey uh Aguilar. Joey Aguilar is not. He's like an
NFL backup like like for a couple of years. But
that's about it. But on a on a side note, remember, uh,
I just made the short about Miami and them talking

(21:27):
about that they are going to go all in for
a quarterback this year in the transfer portal, not like
they didn't last year and the year before that. But
what did what did you think about the quarterbacks that
I that I named that they should hay big head
tap in on, I said Josh Hoover over at Over

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at TCU, Drew Mesta Maker at North Texas, Darien Mensa
at Duke oh Uh, Demond Williams at Washington, Oh, Jared

(22:15):
keywek Sagapore Telly at cal And it was one more dammit.
But yeah, but those dudes, those are the ones I
think that they should check in and see, like, hey, bro,
you're good.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
They'd have to pay more than four million that that
Darien Mensa is getting. And the million, yeah, they've already
dedicated two and a half million to a freshman left tackle.
So I we'll see, we'll see, bring out the money,
bring the money. I'm with you. I'm genuinely with you

(22:58):
on you know, quarterbacks should consider taking the money to
stay in college. You know it's going to be tempting
to come out. But this NFL draft is so deeply
stocked with defensive talent and offensive line talent, and even
the receivers are better than people thought. So if you're
an NFL team you actually want to hit on some
of these picks, maybe you stay away from quarterback altogether.

(23:21):
So we'll we'll see what ends up happening. But as
far as Miami goes, I heard Sam Levitt super hurt,
so just you know, maybe move on from that. Don't
consider Sam Levitt, That's all I have to say.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, he's just trying to chance to I mean, he's
another kid.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Stay in school. He needs to stay in school. He's
gotten better than last year. But people say, oh he
regrets that. No, no, he hasn't. He was dealing with
a different set of circumstances, which is exactly what quarterbacks need.
Last year was lightning in a bottle, magic cam scataboo,
all of this stuff. So this year he had to

(24:05):
take more of a different role and responsibility and find
new ways to win, got got hurt, tried to battle
through all of those things, and now you get to
come back for another year and be great.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
What about Nico.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Oh, I'm definitely check in on Nico, But I believe
that Nico's brand is better served by staying at U
c l A. Because he's been like people are mist
like they don't realize he's actually been pretty damn good

(24:42):
after you know, after the change in leadership.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
I agree with you. I agree with you. It's just
gonna be that you got to make people say no.
That's what you gotta do. You got you gotta throw
that money out there and see, yep, if if if
people are gonna say no. And the quarterback movement last
year was crazy, it probably gonna be craz again this year.
Let's get into what the f is going on with
Baylor athletic director Mac Rhodes, who has stepped away for

(25:09):
personal reasons to a matter that is somehow unrelated to
the other thing that he was just in trouble for.
So to catch people up on this. Mack Rhodes is
the athletic director of Baylor. He is also the head
of the college football Playoff Selection Committee. Was before the
Arizona State game, which was played at home in Waco,

(25:31):
he approached Michael Trigg, a very very talented tight end
who used to be what at Ole miss or usc
Us and around. Okay, so, yeah, Michael Trigg been having
a fantastic year. He had an issue with something. Michael
Trigg was wearing gott in his face and they was
a lot separated.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yes, so I'll interject here for one second that you
could finish. So under his jersey he had on a
yellow Baylor's colors are green, yellow, and white. He had
a long, a baggy long sleeve on. He didn't have
a type one on, had a baggy long sleeve on,

(26:08):
and he was actually it was baggy and all that
because he was hiding a brace underneath. But but it
doesn't matter. Why would the athletic director then grab you
and be like, what the f do you have on?

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Bratt? It's a football game. Mind your own damn damn business.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Like, why is the athletic director getting involved in a
player's uniform. It'd be different if he had on It'd
be different if he had on a purple undershirt, and
it wouldn't even matter. Go talk to the equipment manager,
talk to a coach and have them talk to him.
Don't You don't talk to the player on game day.

(26:46):
Of course, when you're walking around the building all of
that kind of stuff, that's different, But on the field
that is not your domain.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
So this is a tweet from Adam Ridderberg, who were
for ESPN. Baylor confirms to ESPN that received allegations involving
mac Roads on November tenth. These do not involve Title
nine student welfare or NCAA rules and do not involve
the football program. So this is a separate from the
previously reported Michael Trigg incident. The speculation on this is

(27:19):
wild because he got he he looks like at times
with the way that he dresses and his hair, and
at times he looks like somebody who walked into the
club at twenty one and walked out at forty five,
Like he just what he he just I don't know.

(27:44):
I don't know how to explain it other than that,
like he he's obviously older than forty five, but he
just he looks a little worn out lately. And I'm now,
that's not me speculating, that's me observing that. I don't
even he looks like he's been burning the candle, adding
ends to the candle to burn it at five ends.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
I don't so I would have thought that the Michael
Trigg thing, and he got into it with an assistant
coach too, on the same day, I thought that would
have been enough to get him at least suspended, right,
But Baylor essentially covered it up or glossed over it
because they initially tried to get the player and the

(28:27):
assistant coach to apologize to the athletic director, and then
it became clear from video evidence and all of that
stuff that the apologies were actually needed the other way.
So they tried to make this seem like it was
no big deal when it was a big deal. I'm
not saying the man should have been fired, but he
definitely damn sure should have been reprimanded in some public way,

(28:51):
because if you do something in public like the public
should have some idea of what's happening and not to Hey,
we handled this internally and now a separate thing. We
don't know what this could be. They just said, it
has nothing to do with Title nine. It has nothing

(29:11):
to do with the other incident. So and and remember
he said, it's me. I chose to take this leave
of absence. They didn't make me do it. I chose
to do this. And then that gets you to thinking, hmmm,
why would you voluntarily take a leave of absence when

(29:32):
an investigation is popping up? Hm? Hm, that can be
that can be a way to save your job. But
just just just noting what other people have done and
not what he is doing.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, I mean, if anybody here is gainfully employed, I'm
sure you're aware of what short term disability and and
FMLA can do for you in a pinch. That's all
I'm gonna say about that. So best of luck to
Baylor as they as they move forward in the college
football playoff. You know, committee, I don't necessarily know what

(30:09):
they're going to do. The recommendation is Mark Harlan stepping In,
which is one University of Arizona, Alumbia.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, and they have recommended Utah's a D as well,
a D. Yeah, got no problem there. But but the
question is should athletic directors even be on the college
football Playoff Committee?

Speaker 3 (30:37):
That's the question.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Because we've talked about this with AP voters, because I
believe AP voters are great people trying to do their
their best, but they're the vast majority of them, outside
of like Rhys Davis and Kevin Carter, of the vast
majority of overwhelming majority of our beat writers. So a
beat writer's day on college football, you're at the stadium

(30:59):
for at least four hours minimum, So you got an
hour before the game starts at a minimum, and then
the three hour game. Then you got to have a
story in immediate like five minutes after the game is
over with. Then you gotta go to the press yep, yep.
Then you gotta go to the press conference write another story.

(31:22):
So when have you had that's a minimum minimum six
seven hours out of your day and.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Then you got.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Bright and early in the morning.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yes, So when have you had time to watch other
college football games to rank them? You haven't. So how
can you properly be doing a like? Like, you can
be doing your best, but how can you be doing

(31:54):
a good job at this when the time that you
have to do your job as minimal. You see what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yeah, you even talk about this, George, like, it's been
very very cool for you to be in the CW
Studio show this year, But especially if you travel to
a game in person, so like Oregon Ohio State last year,
when you're down on the sideline ding, you.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Can't watch any dude, I can barely watch anything. When
I went to the Indie Oregon Indiana game this this year,
I was like binge watching all night to try to
catch up.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
You call me, You're like, I feel stupid. Yeah, and
like that's what That's what beat writers are dealing with.
This is the one area of life where I would say, like,
we got to turn this thing over to the addicts.
We gotta turn these boats over to the sickos.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
We gotta turn it over to the sickos. The sickos
are ready, Your boy is ready.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
I didn't plan on asking you this question, but would you,
and I because I know the BCS ruined the end
of your college football career, would you be open to
bringing back the BCS if it wasn't about finding the
top two teams but instead the top twelve.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
No, nope, no, no, no, I am anti, I am
anti BCS. But I did hear an interesting thought process
is that if I bet you, there are some people
that are that are smart enough to come up with
metrics like a point system metric for scheduling power for

(33:39):
games in the non conference. So obviously, like Oregon had
Oklahoma State this year, there's nothing you can like they
scheduled Oklahoma State, and Oklahoma State was good. So and
the idea that then if you finish in first place
one year, you play a first place schedule the next year.

(34:03):
So and if Ohio State would have had a harder
schedule this year comparatively to you know, to uh who
finished last in the Big and then yeah, yet then
Purdue would So Purdue would get you eat.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
You're saying like bowl matchups, so like how a bull
matchup could be like the number five Big Ten team
against the number six SEC team in the Reliaquest Bowl
in Tampa, but that would actually govern who you play
the next year in non.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Com Yes, yes, that'd be cool.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yep, that'd be very cool.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
And and for the playoff rankings, having some sort of
point system where you get credit for scheduling better for
scheduling more Power four games. So like, maybe you get
three four five points, like a minimum of three points,
and then if this team ends up ranked in the

(35:02):
top twenty five when the playoff rankings come out, then
that's a four point top ten, a five point and
then those count as bonus points essentially to like to like,
so then people are rewarded for that.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Uh, Georgia, I have a question for you. How much
fun must it be right now to be Brian Kelly's lawyer?

Speaker 2 (35:30):
All you need? Oh my god, it's amazing. You're getting
billable hours and all you need and you only need
two letters?

Speaker 3 (35:41):
No fu?

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, yeah that will work too. Yes, so you need
four letters? N oh, period fu that's it.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Oh my god. So to catch anybody else, I mean,
we're late on this, We're later than everybody else on
this side.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Note Damn Will just tweeted out Rick George is out
at Colorado. He's retiring today. They're athletic director. We knew
it was coming. It was just a metter w.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah, let's get to that in a minute. Yeah. Let's yeah,
let's get to that because that could have quite a
few Yes, ripple effects. But yeah, so Brian Kelly is
owed technically fifty four million dollars. The way that these
buyouts work is getting people to kind of like the lottery,
agree to a lump sum up front to forgive the

(36:36):
full amount that you're tra actually obligated to. Brian Kelly
has reportedly turned down offers of what fifteen and twenty
five million yeah to settle, and so LSU decided to
play a little chicken with him and say, well, technically

(36:57):
we haven't actually fired you yet, and you haven't been
shown up to work, so what if we just fired
you for cause what they're trying to do, they're trying
to strong arm him into taking one of these numbers
that they're.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Not gonna work.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Bud here, you sat me down and you told me
I was out, And LSU is trying to say, well,
the person that told you that didn't actually have the
authority to fire you, So then why has nobody called
me and told me to show back up to work?
Because I guarantee that if they asked Brian Kelly, if
they were like, you're not fired, you need to show

(37:32):
up here every single day. Like one of them FAU
contracts where they send you out to the janitor. Do
you not think that Brian Kelly would keep showing up
until he got his fifty four million dollars And mind you,
this lets me know that Brian Kelly has zero intentions

(37:55):
on coaching again, or people have zero intentions on.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Hiring Brian Kelly. Right now, think about this.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Brian Kelly's owed fifty four million dollars over until twenty
thirty one, I believe, right until January twenty thirty, well
December thirty first, twenty twenty twenty thirty, so and equal
installments over there of like you know, almost eight hundred

(38:26):
thousand dollars a month. So if he were going and
mind you, he's got offset language. So if he goes
to go get a new job, let's say that that
job paid him half of what he's getting paid, then
LSU would owe him the additional four hundred thousand dollars
a month until that is done. Right, So so my

(38:48):
question to you is, Ralph, tell me if this makes sense.
I don't believe Brian Kelly has and how old is
he has intentions on coaching again or somebody really even
wants to hire him? Because if you're Brian Kelly, And
you know somebody wants to hire you. Let's say Arkansas
wants to give you the job now at seven million

(39:09):
dollars three three less than you were making over the
next three years, over the next what four years, five years?
That is twenty million dollars. I'm sorry, that's yeah, that's
fifteen million dollars less that LSU would have to pay you.

(39:29):
So why would you not take a buyout for twenty
five million dollars and be ten ten million on the
plus side? You see what I'm saying. Yeah, So, or
if you were getting another job they were gonna pay
you know, eight million dollars to you. Why would you

(39:51):
not take a twenty five million dollar buyout if you
knew that you were gonna take another job that was
gonna pay you this Because you know, they've been trying
to backdoor. They will not back door. They've been trying
to hire James frank places. I've been trying to hire
James Franklin already. They've been trying to hire you know,
other coaches already.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
So so he.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Has an idea of what the market is like for
him right right now. So either the market is really
weak or he has no intentions on coaching again. What
do you think about that premise?

Speaker 3 (40:22):
I think you might be right. I mean I just
watch We just watched Craig bole hit sixty five and
be like, well, that's my time. I'm sixty five. That's
when people retire. And he went to be head of
the American Football Coaches Association. Frank Kelly sixty four. He
just turned sixty four, so maybe maybe once to enjoy
the rest of his days with his family. You know,

(40:45):
what's your number? What's your number? If you're Brian Kelly
and you don't plan on coaching again, there is no number.
The number is fifty four. If I don't plan on
coaching again, the numbers fifty four. But to have it now, right, JG. Wentworth,
it's my money and.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
I forty forty three and a half.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Forty three and a half. So you say eighty percent,
I would I would say two thirds. Give me thirty
five mil. Give me thirty five mili and I will
pull a coach.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
So you've got to remember you're just gruntled too.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Give me thirty eight million.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
So you see what I'm saying that that there's a
pride factor factored into it too.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Give me some box seats so I can still show
my face. Yeah, I mean, there is certainly a pride factor,
but he seems to have been open to the idea
of a settlement, and so I think that's.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
What they probably had some weird terms in there, like
like still having an offset or something like that, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
If you want to buy out a no offset.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
I'm just in love with the idea that this would
enter some type of arbitration court hearing and Brian Kelly's
lawyer would get to walk in and just push play
on a tape of the governor talking about Brian Kelly
getting fired as a rebuttal to to unless you're saying
that he wasn't fired. Oh I love it. What are

(42:17):
we doing here, Let's uh, let's skip the next thing
dot to talk about Rick George. Okay, so Rick George
been an ad all over the place, you know, finished
at Colorado changed the landscape shoot things up by hiring
Deon Sanders. The two of them as a team put
Colorado back on the on the map. He made way

(42:38):
more than enough money to pay for himself there with
you know what, you know what Nike was able to
do alongside the on Sanders and everything. I don't care
how much they lose. It's been a it's been a
net positive for Colorado based on what they were going through.
Not a lot of people are aware of what the
situation that Colorado was in.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Oh yeah, they were pickle.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Yeah, so you know the if the Do you think
that this means that it's the end of the Dion
Sanders era?

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Okay, so down to money too, right, So this is
gonna come down to money too, because Colorado's not firing Dion,
They're not paying whatever. That buyout is making ten million
dollars a year now essentially. So no, I do not
see a world where they fire Dion Sanders. But Dion Sanders'

(43:38):
health situation could factor into this. But that's a lot
of money to just walk away that you buyout situation.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Yeah, do you think it makes Dion want to look elsewhere?
Because there are jobs open, and there are jobs who
say who would look at what Delon Sanders has done
on the field and say, man, we give him the
right resources, he's gonna bring us the bright lights. We
can probably figure it out. We just got to put
some guardrails in place so that he can't dump his
offensive coordinator over fifteen seconds, or have one stap out

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there and workout clothes kicking cones over.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Okay, So if this was two years ago when I
said this, and I still stand by what I said
two years ago about Dion Sanders. I like Deon Sanders.

(44:38):
I love that he tries to groom men. I think
that he is well intentioned. I think he's actually overall
a good football coach. I believe his kryptonite is the
thing that allows you to not be successful in college
football at a high level. He does not want to

(45:02):
recruit high school at a high level. He doesn't want
to go to do home visits. He doesn't do home
visits all that like you gotta come to Colorado. All
that's not the you're You're not gonna like. You gotta
be beating the trail up on some level. And yes,
you can go less than other people can. Can can

(45:23):
go and just show up and that has so much
more of an impact. But he tried to say, well,
if I go to one school and don't go to
another school, nah, nah, bro If Dan Lanning, Kirby, Smart,
Marcus Freeman, all of these dudes are are are? Are?
Are Nick Saban when he was coaching Ryan Day. If
they if they beating up this this.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Trail, you gotta beat up the trail. That's the way
to do it.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
So I can't in good conscience hire Dion Sanders unless
he's going if he gonna, if he gonna get out
on the road recruiting, I would one hundred percent hire
Deon Sanders if he is not, No way.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
I'll give you a school where I think what he's
doing now could work, uh, in a region that he's
very familiar with, at a school where he could certainly
be himself. They haven't fired their coach yet, but TikTok, TikTok, Baylor,

(46:33):
you might be.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Onto something, might be on to something. And that begs
the question of I mean, how many more jobs are
gonna come open this year?

Speaker 1 (46:48):
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
I don't think that that people are really aquainting because
we already got a bunch of jobs open. What do
we have like a little like nine or eleven power
four jobs open?

Speaker 3 (47:01):
You could have fired who they're gonna fire yet? Outside
of Colorado State?

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah, okay, so I'm gonna throw a few names out
for you. Michigan State. Could they be looking for a
new coach.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
They could, well, so let's do it this. But George,
are they more likely to go Wisconsin's route and fold
not participating in this hiring cycle or open up?

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Hope is being lost quickly? Okay, they are Owen six
into big ten Owen six. This is a step in
the wrong direction. They still got Penn State, Iowa, and
Maryland left if they finished three and nine, which is possible.

(47:55):
I think the Maryland game is gonna mean more than
anything else. Okay, so if they lose, if they finish
three and nine, I think he's out. I don't think
that you can like believe that the future is brighter,
at least at Wisconsin, like you're putting up a defense

(48:16):
that is just like formidable, Like you can see that
things are going and you just beat Washington, Like there
is hope that that can work in resourcing Luke Fickle
that that can work. There's a reasonable belief that that
can work. I don't think that you can reasonably believe

(48:40):
that it is going to work right now at Michigan
State in c State with Dave Dave Dorn they just
beat Georgia Tech, so that's gonna go a long way.
They still got Miami, Florida State in North Carolina. These

(49:01):
are technically three winnable games if you win. If he
beats either Miami or Florida State, well, actually he's gotta
beat North Carolina, I think, and then he's gotta beat
either Florida State or Miami. If he does that, I

(49:22):
think he's safe for this year, which will put him
at seven And what are they right now? That'll put
him at seven and five if they go two and
three in the next which you can stick.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
To the state season hanging out in El Paso at
the sun Bowl type season first.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yes, and then you got Florida State. They got Virginia Tech,
n C State in Florida. If they lose to Florida.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
They he's out of there.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
There's no way. There's no way that you can believe
that there is where he said he's gonna win national championships.
You you can't even believe that anymore. So you got that.
Do you think that there's any chance that Boston College opens?

Speaker 3 (50:17):
No? I don't, but I wouldn't put it past Bill
O'Brien to be on the phone with the bras or
trying to trying to convince the whoever gets the Giants
job to maybe bring him in his OC or or
something like that. Okay, I would like to see him

(50:39):
level Boston College job. But they suck.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Yes, they're terrible. How about Baylor? They got they're four
and five right, No, they're five and four right now.
They got Utah, Arizona and Houston left. They could go
oh to three, which will put him at five and seven.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
That's a definite, but I think they're also possibly in
danger if they if they go six and six. I
want to pull something up real quick, just to search.
It's their defensive rankings, George, because you and I talk
about this all the time. That's supposed to be his job.
If you venture to guess where Baylor is currently ranked
in points allowed per.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Game, considering that Sawyer Robertson has almost three thousand yards
passing and a lot of touchdowns, I'm gonna go with
In terms of yards allowed, Yeah, their defense, because Dave,
let's go right, one hundred and eighth. You you got
within ten spots they are one hundredth What about total offense?

(51:49):
So yard yard yards allowed?

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Yards allowed?

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Yeah, where would be acceptable if you're if you're Dave Randa,
if you're a defensive guy. You want to clean top four,
they are eighty six. They're eighty six, then one hundredth
in the two most important defensive categories. So what are
you doing? You might as well at this point just

(52:14):
elevate your oc.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Yeah, and does Mike Mike Locksley? Does he make it
at Maryland?

Speaker 3 (52:23):
He's another guy that I root for, but he's always
kind of complaining and they start hot and then they
just bottom out. I mean, it doesn't it isn't working.
It hasn't worked. I would move on, but you have
to take the hiring cycle into account, which Wisconsin did.
And it's very strange how everybody went from like man,
Luke Fickle just didn't get it done at Wisconsin. So
then Wisconsin was brave enough to say one more year.

(52:46):
I feel like the college football community was like, good call,
like j Cole jumping out of the beef between Kendrick
and Drake, like, hey, yeah, you're definitely not a winner,
but you're not as big of a loser as you
could be if you tried to get in on this
hiring cycle.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Okay, I got one more name for you. This coach
has he has lost four games in a row and
six out of his last seven, but in the beginning
of the season his name was being floated about for
another job. He was lost six of the last seven. Mmm,

(53:29):
he beat the team in the first game of the
season that he was rumored to take their job.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Due because they lost. Beat the team in the first
game of the season that he was rumored to take
their job.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Us me and people are still calling when they beat
his team.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
A tough win.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
I don't know who is it.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Shane Beemer South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
They still have Texas A and M left, which they're
going to lose that game this weekend. They're gonna beat
Coastal Carolina probably, and then they played Clemson. If they
lose to Texas A and M and Clemson, that'll put
him at four and eight with an awful offense.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
They got the.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
People saying that they should go to the College Football Playoff,
and with him being rumored to be attached to Virginia Tech,
and also with Shane Biemer out here saying I didn't
mess up hiring my coordinators again, dude, your coordinator that
you lost to Nebraska was even worse than the one
you have now, So yes, and Nebraska had to admit it.

(55:02):
By demoting him to tight ends coach. Yes.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Man, Yeah, it's hiring cycles getting crazy. So imagine how
many schools are going to lose their coordinators. We're going
to lose their head coaches. Yeah. And we're not even
talking about the G six teams that are going to
fire their coaches.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Or or yeah, or lose them to you know, the
sum Rawles and the silver Fields, the potentially upgrading their
their gigs if you consider Silverfield leaving the comfort of
you know, FedEx and Memphis even an upgrade. So yeah,
I can't wait to see where all the chips land.
And I do. And I'm amongst the people looking at

(55:47):
Wisconsin right now saying like, you know what, maybe you're
the smart one. Yes.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
And the crazy part is is that or Oregon State
is they want to fire their interim head coach, which
is Ray because they lost to Sam Houston State.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Who was winless right at the yes, or they hadn't.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Yeah, yes, because I did the pregame for that show
last week and we were like when we were in
the in the meetings, we were like, yoh, there's no
real reason to cover Sam Sam Houston State, Like, let's
talk about Oregon State blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Well whoops, oh my gods too.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
And I fashioned I asked you earlier if Jim Mora
should get if u c l A should hire Jim
Jim Mora out of the independence, But that's whole nother story.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
I mean, it's funny because I'm still on like, would
you bring at some point we're gonna have to talk
about one year rentals because I'm I'm kind of getting
obsessed with this idea of like hiring a coach for
a year because Stanford set the president right, Could LSU
do one year of Nick Saban? Could U c l
A do one year of Rick newhisl while they positioned
themselves to do it or they're going to do next

(57:01):
because of the transfer portal? Would it be acceptable and
that the check's gonna clear either way that you get
from the conference, and it would be a big story,
like everybody would be talking about it because they know
it's temporary. So I wonder if we're going to enter
into an age of you know, hey, we want our
coaching search to take a little longer than just be
within this hiring cycle. So we're gonna do it?

Speaker 1 (57:22):
What we better hurry up because the huh, we are.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
What eighteen nineteen twenty one days from signing day, let's
moving it up to the beginning of the month. Is
that's that favors stability?

Speaker 3 (57:46):
If I had I find, I mean, if high school
coaches or if high school players just collectively don't sign
so that you're still available past signing day like that,
that might be the But they use scarcity, and they
use all these tactics to get people signed on as
quickly as possible, and I understand why they do it,
but yeah, the timing of the college football season continues

(58:06):
to be a thorn in everybody's side. Let's talk a
couple of ACEC topics before we get into Rister Wrong,
one of which is the ACC doomsday scenario for Duke.
Duke could go eight and four. It's a legitimate possibility,
and if they do, they have an opportunity to win
the ACC and have the ACC completely excluded from the

(58:28):
college football playoff. I want to say I would think
that Jim Phillips thinks that this is the nightmare scenario,
the ACC commissioner, But he made some comments at ACC
media Day about like, hey, anything bad that happens to
us as our fault, so who knows how he actually feels.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Nah bad, You don't want to get left out of
college football playoff. That's too much money, Like, that's literally
too like that's losing so much money for your institutions
that that can't be That can't be a thing.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Yeah. Here, here's the scenario nine and four. Duke that
has lost to Yukon and Tulane either making the College
Football Playoff or being excluded completely. So you gotta win out.
You gotta beat Virginia. Georgia Tech would have to lose
to pit and Louisville would have to beat SMU. Those
are both very possible. All of this is completely possible.

(59:20):
And then it doesn't even matter what happens at Miami
and Pitt on November twenty nine, because Duke would be
in the a SEC Championship game where they just have
to win.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Bright this is that would be the biggest slap in
FU in the face for two G five, for two
G six programs to get in over a P four.
That would be disgusting like that.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
All these six is are gonna be two lost teams.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
That would be bad. Brot, I gotta be honest that
I can't even stay for that. I can't stand for that.
There's no no, that's too much. That's too much with
without the risk of turning in the fine bomb that
that feels, that feels outrageous.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
You mean me, Senator.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
That's gonna make negotiate. Just the fact that this is
even a topic for conversation is gonna make a new colleague,
even though the big ten in the SEC get to choose,
which was stupid anyway, But it's gonna make the new
college football format. Absolutely no chance anybody agrees on it now.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Oh so, last acc topic, uh, which somehow involves Baylor
because of why not?

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
A man by the name of Brian Mandel Baylor Love
lives in Corpus Christi, Texas, has been arrested and is
facing charges that he allegedly made threats against the universe.
Steve Louisville football coaches and a player. Cal beat Louisville,
which was a surprise, and it's very possible that this man,

(01:01:09):
Brian Mandel, had a little bit of his expendable or
non expendable income on that game, and he has been
He has been accused of making threats against head coach
Jeff brom and his wife and his two children, and
offensive coordinator Brian Brohm and quarterback Miller Moss. A judge

(01:01:30):
set Mandel's bail at one hundred thousand dollars and ordered
him not to gamble until the case is resolved.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Until the case is resolved, so we can do it again, dude,
This dude needs to be sent into what called what
eight hundred gambler every single day.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
This brings up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
A debate, right, So, yeah, so gambling has increased viewership
of games, and it also has drawn many lines with
the people. So it's like, there are some people that
think gambling is bad all by itself. Then there are

(01:02:10):
people that are like that the betting lines and all
of that stuff are fine on gambling, and that's where
they draw the line. And then people and then now
you have the prop bets. And I believe that the
prop bets are a step too far only because of

(01:02:37):
the risk it poses to the integrity of the game.
I don't think that it makes people. I don't think
that that gambling on prop bets is any worse than
gambling on like betting lines, or that that's some kind

(01:02:57):
of way like, oh, there's the bridge too far that
when you can. So it is very difficult to fix
football games, right, It's very difficult to fix baseball games
because you got to hit the ball and it's got
to hit two bids. Like there's just too much. But
you can fix individual pitches, you see what I'm saying

(01:03:20):
for like the player like Class A and these dudes
who got indicted in MLB. You can have a guy
throw his first pitch for a ball. Yeah, you can
have to throw it for a strike hopefully, but it's
easier for them to throw it for a ball. And

(01:03:43):
as opposed to or a guy say, all right, I
got to hit my under on rebounds today of five,
so I'll make sure I don't get five rebounds. I
can ensure that I don't get five rebounds. I will
stay at three and then anything else, I'll let somebody
else and I got a buffer of one rebound, and

(01:04:03):
then I might have to goof went out of bounds
if necessary. Yeah, with and you can do that without
impacting the score in the game. So it makes it
a player is a lot more individually susceptible and the
integrity of the game more susceptible on a smaller basis

(01:04:26):
rather than you know, the overall outcome of the game,
which is much more difficult to influence.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Yeah, I I am. I mean I hate to be
like a to sound like an NRA member, but like
gambling doesn't threaten Louisville coaches, people threaten Louisville coaching.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Guns don't kill people.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
People kill people.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Yeah, So here's here. That's how I look at it.
And and there's a delicate balance on this because I
do think that adults should be trusted with the freedom
to engage in some of these vices. However, you don't
know which people can't handle it until they've been put

(01:05:19):
in that situation. It's kind of like drinking, right. You
don't find out that you're not a tequila guy until
you find out you're not a tequila guy, you know.
And and this is the cost. This is absolutely the cost.
I'm not saying that it's good. I'm not saying that
I agree with it or like it. And if they

(01:05:40):
want to ban gambling, sure whatever. It's not gonna change
my life any But you know what I worry about
is okay, good, we have guardrails and consequences in place
for people who do stuff like this, and some of
these apps like FanDuel, DraftKings and the like. They will
if you report back to them like hey, X user

(01:06:03):
made X threat, they'll revoke your access. So then you'll
no longer have the privilege to gamble using those apps.
They'll lock you out permanently. And then if you want
to do it, you got to go black market or
find an off shore book or something like that. And
so the issue is what if the system gets overwhelmed.

(01:06:24):
What if next week we have ten thousand people all
threatened coaches and players. So you can't if you overwhelm
the legal system, you can't. Just at some point America
is going to be seventy five percent imprisoned people or
excellence like, you can't. You can't keep going at this pace.

(01:06:47):
So even on a practical level, I really worry about
do we have the bandwidth to be addressing legally all
of these people who are idiots at the same time.
There is a piece to me, George, And I don't
know if this is the right way to think. I
just know I think that way. Ok. There's a piece
of me that that watched Minority Report with the whole

(01:07:10):
like pre crime thing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Yea, and I wants that to be instilled.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Yeah, because like, yeah, reveal yourselves.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Brian should thrown in jail for pre crimes.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
Now, what I'm saying is if if gambling, if if
gambling didn't exist, people are gonna say, if gambling didn't exist,
he wouldn't have had the opportunity to melt down like
this and my.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Arguments else if it was like people like that, that's
the thing is, well, he's gambling since the beginning of time.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
He's a business owner, he's on the city planning Commission
in Corpus Christy, like, he's an upstanding and respected member
of the community. So people will blame the activity. But
there's a part of me and again I don't know
if it's right or wrong where I'm like, no, he
always sucked and we always needed to find out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Hey, so yes, because if it wasn't this, he would
have crashed out over something else.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
And maybe yeah, and maybe this is what he needs.
And I'm not saying like then he and he's gonna
stay a piece of garbage. I'm saying like, maybe this
is the rock bottom that he bounces back from. But
I do love that he's being held accountable because players
shouldn't be subjected to like, if you can't handle your liquor,
don't drink. Yeah, if you can't handle like being able

(01:08:37):
to treat a woman with respect, don't have a woman
in your life. If you can't not go on social
media and go after a dude and his wife and
his kids and his brother and his quarterback, you shouldn't
be gambling. And it's a shame we have to find
out this way. But like no tears shed.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Yeah, but you can't ban people from gambling, though they
will still gamble somewhere else, Like it's like prohibition.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Yeah, his personal IP or his phone, Like I don't know,
maybe we have phones out there that like anything you
do involves government intervention. And I'm a little squirrely about
a little bit of libertarian streak in me that doesn't
doesn't necessarily want that. So I don't know. I don't
know what the answer is, but I'm glad that I'm
glad that he's getting his come up. It's let's get

(01:09:32):
into reister wrong. We'll make it rapid fire. Missouri coach
Eli Drinkwitz says that he wants to get away from
the playoff or bust mentality. George Eli Drinkwitz is is
on the short list for some of these open jobs
that have nothing but a playoff or bust mentality. Do
you agree or disagree with Eli Drinkuentz Reister are wrong.

(01:09:54):
We got to get out of this playoff or bust mentality.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
He is both Reister and he's wrong. He's reis because
there are some growth stages that are real and everybody
can't make the playoff every single year that we want
like that, you make it miss it, make it miss
it that way it feels special. But also he's wrong

(01:10:19):
because that's a pretty convenient conversation from a guy who
hasn't made the playoff and who's people were picking to
maybe backdoor into the playoff and really be good, and
now they're not ranked, so of course that it's convenience
for him to say that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Do you think he Jerry Maguire himself. Do you think
it'll limit his future opportunities from schools who might be
looking his way.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Yes, because people get so enamored with the actual single
game results rather than overall body of war. Like, there's
a lot of people that can't see that fran Brown
would be a phenomenal hire at Penn State. Look at
the record this year. They're not winning the circumstances to that,

(01:11:13):
you know, if.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
They haven't seen the freshman class at Syracuse that averages
six foot six.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Yes, so there's a lot that goes into it, like
a lot more than than just one single game. But
fans get folks and even administrators, they let it bleed
into them that one game is too important.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
Next up, reister wrong. My old employer, rivals dot Com
now owned by ON three, deleted a tweet where Adam Gorney,
one of the one of the recruiting reporters out there
West Coast Guy, asked Knox Skiff and Lane Kiffin's son
about his dad's job status, and Ryan was proper was

(01:12:01):
bullied into deleting the tweet that included the story. The
story is still up, as is Adam Gorney's tweet about this.
Adam Gorney reister or wrong for asking Knox Kiffin about
his dad's job status.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
What was his answer?

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
His answer was that he understands why people are are concerned,
but that that's his dad's you know, that's just what
goes along with it. Pretty mature.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Actually, Oh good job, Knox, You've been trained son. Don't
give up the goods. Either that or don't tell Knox
one of the two. If you're if your dad, don't
tell Knox at the last minute, because he could be
put in a position like this, and just prep him

(01:12:49):
on what to say, because you don't want your kid
in a position where they have to lie for you
or they're expected to speak for you. So just say yo,
directed to me. Just tell him like yo, that's my
dad's choice. He'll figure it out. He will make a
good decision.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
Any problem with the question being asked in the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
No, no, what.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
Are you? It would be wrong if he didn't get
asked that question, like like, hey, is there anywhere you
would like to see your dad go? He can be
like no, I don't care, like you're giving him like
as long as you soft ball it to him like
a like a here it comes underhanded and and he

(01:13:36):
can either turn it, turn it down, or hit it
out of the park.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
All right, next one up, reister or wrong catapult sports
slash exostuh has and maybe you've had experience with this.
I don't know. We haven't talked about it. They have
a habit of giving smaller creators YouTube strikes for using
game footage, and there is a mass rebellion for YouTube creators,

(01:14:02):
college football, NFL and the like publicly fighting back against
exos for copyright striking videos that would typically fall under
fair use. There may be some inside baseball that people
might not be very interested in, but so it really
falls into our purview of making content. Catapult seems to
be at the forefront of just going around and getting

(01:14:23):
people demonetized for their videos, including footage reister or wrong.
The creators strike back against the strikes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
Okay, so this has actually impacted me significantly and I
hate it, and not even for putting content on the
channel as much because we don't play a whole lot
of stuff because of that. But the biggest thing is
that when you're inside of their app to watch all

(01:14:55):
twenty two film, you used to be able to share it,
Like I used to be able to watch it on
my computer. Now I can only watch it on the tablet.
I can't screen record on it, I can't do anything
like I have to do it from my computer. Like
it's like I can't even do it from my computer.

(01:15:17):
It's a mess. It's a mess. I can only watch
film on my tablet like I'm on my iPad.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
What are we doing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
I can't put it up on my big t TV.
It's silly and the whole point is to grow the
game and I but this is not propriety. It's not
like the creators are getting anything that And mind you,
a lot of people have asked me, like, g how

(01:15:48):
did you get all twenty two footage? I'm like, I
get it through CW and you're supposed to keep it
tight to the best. But it's not like every other
college has access to this film, Like, you don't have
anything that they don't have, so they don't want their

(01:16:08):
footage used unless you pay for it. I get that,
but I actually just had to find a work around
to be able to show game footage on our channel now,
and now we can do it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
I forgot to tell you, Ralph.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Thanks, I'm excited. So in the battle between the Streamers
and Catapult Slash Exos, are you you're a neutral party
or are you who you're taking up arms for taking.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
Them arms for the creators? What do you mean let's
go and the man? Hey, hey, hey, but the man
you do good work. Though I am not against you,
I am just I'm just you know, I'm just pro
little guy because.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Uh, this is good. This is gonna be interesting. Speaking
of filming things, Reister or wrong, all of the people
who were present for Bethune, Cookman and Grambling, which means
they're probably affiliated with the team in some way, either
as a rooting party or a parent.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
Are you Are you talking about this brawl that happened.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Yeah, yeah, I'm talking about I'm talking about the brawl. Reister,
are wrong the people who posted it all over social media,
because you got to understand, these are probably people with
some relation or influence to the situation. I'm not talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
It's obviously I got no problem with the people that
posted Reister, I mean wrong. Whichever way is in favor
of the people who posted it. We needed to see this.
This was unhinged. It was bad. But also on a
side note, I thought it made This was a huge

(01:17:58):
stain on h huge.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
That's what I'm saying. So what so let's say that, George,
Let's say that Akwyn, your oldest son, who is at
UC Davis now, was playing for Inglewood. There's a huge brawl, right,
what if your oldest What if your oldest posted it
to her socials and then now all of a sudden,
people think Inglewood, led by Damon Reister is a bunch

(01:18:25):
of thugs, and it's because of his own sister. That's
what That's where I'm trying to get at with the
Reister Wrong is like I'm still I'm still fine with it.
I'm still fine with it because it was gonna be
seen anyway. Like you like, you can't hide this.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
It's almost like when I was at the Sierra Canyon
game and then Sierra Canyon's whole team fall falls out
and fakes an injury in response to Sarah faking injuries.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Incredible video. I'm glad I got to see it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
It was there's so many cameras it was going to
come out just because hers went viral or that one
went viral, there were others. The game was being filmed
for television. It was going to happen, So at least

(01:19:22):
at least let somebody get the uh get get the
monetization for it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
All right. Last up in Reister Wrong, Patner do Team.
He got asked about Notre Dame and he said, I
don't care if they beat us by one hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
I wanted Pitt to lose. I wanted Pit to win.
Actually I didn't care if they won, but I wanted
to see a really good game. I hope they do
lose by one hundred points. That's soft, it is. I
don't care about the game. I only care about the
ACC games like it doesn't even matter.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
So so why would be like, coach, why are we
even practicing it?

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
If our goal is not to win this game and
if it doesn't really matter, why are we practicing.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
I feel like I took it a little differently. I'm
with you, I one hundred percent understand where you're coming from.
But it feels like there's this concentrated effort to assassinate
Notre Dame. And Joey McGuire's in on it, and Davo's

(01:20:34):
in on it, and Pat and Ardutci apparently is in
on it. He's never been afraid to speak his mind,
and in one way or the other, Yeah, Notre Dame
is the most hated team in America, and I've always
understood that to be true. But it's a fresh hate,
and this new, fresh hate is fascinating to me, and

(01:20:55):
so I didn't take it as soft. I took it
as another like example of bitterness on the big pile
of bitterness toward Notre Dame being outside of conference.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Yes, Ralph, Notre Dame schedule gets banged on all the time. Right, Okay,
so oh they're scheduled so weak they're not in the conference. Okay,
explain this to me, Dan, Ralph, does this sound like
a week schedule? Miami, Texas, A and m USC and

(01:21:30):
pitt who are all what current ranked, including the number
three team in the conation. Most teams don't do that,
that have four currently ranked teams on their schedule. I
don't think so. And then you add in, oh, wait,
let's find their FCS opponent. Hold on, hold on, there

(01:21:52):
isn't one. Oh, okay, how many G five opponents do
they have?

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
Two?

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Oh? Just the one that went to the Hodge Football
Playoff last year. And it's a tough out for a
lot of people in Boise State. And they played Navy. Damn.
We can't say anything there all right, Then they played
Syracuse their rival Stanford Boston College. Hey, hey, tough win
at at a at a bottom feed or SEC team

(01:22:20):
in Arkansas where somebody else will get credit for that
tough win. And then we got Perdue and inca stake.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
And if you'd let them, they'd have Michigan on there
and anybody else who'd have them, I don't have it.
Sometimes it's exhausted. I don't have any feelings about Notre
Dame at all. They're not romantic to me. I don't
care about New Rockney, but every complaint that everybody has
about them, I also do not share. Outside. I love

(01:22:50):
being Heisman candidate.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
I loved Notre Dame. Bro loved Notre Dame growing up
with every inch of my body because it was Peter Warwick,
and there was and there was rocket Ishmael. Those were
my college football Uh oh, excuse me. There was rocket Ishmail,

(01:23:13):
then there was Charlie Ward, and then there was Peter
Warick in that order.

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
You know where rockets Son played college football?

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
His son played or is it Cadre Son? I think
it was rocket Son where Wyoming, Oh, Wyoming. I forgot about.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
That, yes, sir, And I was when the and you
played for the Jacksonville Jaguars, So you get it when
the Jaguars and Carolina Panthers dropped. When they first came
onto the scene in the NFL, they kind of had
a more modern, cooler logos and a lot of people

(01:24:03):
like picked one or the other and I loved the
early Carolina Panthers and their Big Ten and back then
I thought of Notre Dame as like a Big ten school. Yeah,
for some reason, because they played a bunch of Big
ten schools. Yeah, but Tim Biakabatuca from Michigan at running back,
Carry Collins from Penn State at quarterback, and then you
had Rocket out there on the on the outside. I

(01:24:25):
thought they were so awesome. So I man, I've been well,
I do. Yeah. Notre Dame has always been fine with me.
I don't. I don't care they were on It was
always cool that they were on TV. I liked that
ESPN should take note people care when college football is
on TV. Last thing, what are you looking forward to
in the week ahead, George.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
Oh God, I am looking forward to Iowa USC. Lord,
Please let this game be amazing the way that I
think and hope it will be. I need to live
up to all my hopes and dreams. I don't care
about the outcome. I want to see what USC is

(01:25:09):
really about. I want to see what is undoubtedly. Because
I talked to a USC commit last night, I was like, Yo,
you're going to.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
The game on Saturday. He's like, I don't know. It
depends on the weather.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
I was like, do you do you think any of
the fans are going to show up? He was like, nah,
it's right now. I was like, do you think that
that's good? He was like, I mean it's raining. I
was like, did you watch the Oregon Iowa game? He
was like, yeah, but they live in Iowa? Said did
you watch the Wisconsin Washington game? Yeah, but they live

(01:25:41):
in Wisconsin. I was like, you know you have to
go there right and play against them. Yeah. I was like,
so they get a home field advantage and you don't.
He was like, dang, that is kind of whack.

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
But you have quite a few times in the last
week of being a USC watcher and for being the
softest man in America for your take on their fake punt.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
Oh, I got a tweet today, right, I got a tweet.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Today that said he said, Bro, you've been obsessed with
USC since last week? What you wearing an LA hat to?
I was like, I live in Los Angeles. I am
Los Angeles and he said, well, if you were, you
wouldn't be hating like that. Hey man, truth sounds like hate.

(01:26:39):
And I'm also looking forward to Alabama getting beat by Oklahoma.

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
Well, hey, for the people who are convinced that you
are the old time USC hater, who is your college
football goat?

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Reggie Bush?

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
Yeah? Interesting, funny how that works.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
It's exciting, funny how that works. I just it's us.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
See, I just want their fans to be better, like
they deserve better. And the fact that I call them
out it's out of respect.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
It's not out of eight.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
It's out of respect.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
They should demand more.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Like why am I demanding more out of USC fans
than they demand out of themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
That's a good question. I think that we should allow
them to think about it for a while. Uh. I
will say that what I'm looking forward to this weekend
is ty Simpson gonna get a test, buddy, You're gonna
get a test. This Oklahoma defense is for real.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
They're winning.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
This is this is for real, Like this is the
this is the film that you're gonna see mel Kiper
breaking down, Todd mcshabe breaking down, like Matt Miller. This
is it and you know, Heisman moment. Maybe we'll see
but like there's a lot on the line and you
think ty Simpson should maybe run it back. You know,

(01:27:56):
we're gonna see if if Alabama fans even want them
to run it back based on Brent Philes is able
to do in this game because Alabama can't run and
Oklahoma wasn't gonna let him anyway. So it is all
Tie Simpson time. I could not be more excited to
see what he This is it, this is the challenge,

(01:28:18):
and I want to see if he lives up to it.
I'm kind of rooting for him. But whatever happens is
gonna be phenomenal. It's all. It's all good for us,
it's all gonna be fun to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Yep. All right, I'm George Reister. He is Ralph Ampson.
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