CFB Week 3 Storylines: Sark Presser, Belichick, Coach Prime, UCLA vs TENN & MORE

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
College Football Apostles is here week three. I'm your boy,
George Reister, former NFL player, college football player and analysts
for c W, and I'm excited because we go have
the South Florida Miami game this week. So make sure
you check out your boy. Am a main man, Ralph
and the prep sports, college football analysts and regular encyclopedia

(00:26):
about everything that you that will be in your media
guide of how the player. We just finished with amazing
week two of college football. All sorts of stuff up
here on on Afraid Shoe George Riis's college football podcast
everything in between. But now we got to talk. But
gotsh Football Apostles is where we getting to the weeds.

(00:47):
We talk about all the things that you really want
to hear about as well outside of the actual game itself.
So let's get started as we always do. Ralph, what
were your three big takeaways from week two with college football?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Okay, so number one is I never want to hear
a cow bell again for the rest of my life.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Oh, it sounds like somebody played Mississippi.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
State, Yes sir, and yeah, you know what like they
It's it's not bitterness. I promise it's not bitterness.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
They beat us.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Jeff Levy's a great coach. I think he's doing a
fantastic job. I think college football is more fun when
Mississippi State is good. The truth of the matter is
I don't watch a lot of Mississippi State home games
with the volume on. This was really my first time
sitting through sixty straight minutes. And like, my son plays

(01:41):
for a cowbell team, like a high school cowbell team.
I don't even like that. And that's like seventy eighty
cow bells. This was like thirty five thousand cowbells. And
apparently there's some like NCAA rules about it that they're
grandfathered into, and like sometimes when they're supposed to ring
them and not supposed to ring them, they or all
that they go hard in the paint and it is.

(02:05):
It's the worst. Man, My dogs were hiding under the bed.
I had a headache afterward from just watching on TV.
It truly truly sucks, and it's incredible. Hon't feel advantage,
but I hated every minute of it.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Okay, so I completely agree with you that the cowbells
need to go, but for a totally different reason, a
totally different reason because I don't actually mind the cowbells.
I am the person who was not bothered when the
v vezuelas or vivezuelas, however you say them in the world.

(02:37):
Tayl Yeah, when people were all upset.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Get them away, I was like, I love them. It
didn't bother me.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
But the reason why I hate the Mississippi State cowbells
and why they need to go is because the NCAA
banned Oregon and the Ducks. So there used to be
these duck quackers that everybody in the stand used to have.
I need to find a picture of it, that these
duck quackers. It was the most amazing thing. It made

(03:07):
the stadium insufferable and I loved it, and they banned them,
so you know what, banded damn cow bells until you
let the Ducks fans bring the quackers back.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I do respect it. It is a hell of a
home field advantage. And you could tell that they had
been like fourteen straight powerful opponents that they had lost
to because their social media team went so hard after
the game, like mocking everybody dancing on Arizona State's grave,
and they deserve to have their fun. I just man,
I don't know how they I honestly don't know how

(03:40):
they do it. I mean, I'm sure hearing lost clinics
in Starkville, Mississippi are run by billionaires at that point.
The other thing that stuck out to me is that
it's very clear and has always been clear, is this
podcast used to be called the Pac twelve apostles that
people do not watch West Coast football. They never have,

(04:02):
they never will. Because the amount of people who tweeted
about John Mattere and not knowing he was really like that.
I try not to get like mad about stuff I
can't on the internet.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
He did the exact same thing he did last year
at Washington State.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
There was no difference.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
And it was people were surprised about cam Ward last
year and I just can't do it anymore. By the
by the end of the Oklahoma game, after about fifty tweets,
Ryan Clark fired off aike John Mattere wasn't familiar with
your game, and I just like threw my phone on
the bed and sat there and crowded like nothing good
ever happens for West Coast athletes because people have no

(04:48):
idea what's happening on the West Coast. Ever, John Mattire
was a monster. Cam Ward was a monster before him.
Uh it just everything always reminds me of Christian McCaffrey
not getting see.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
This is why I like these bi coastal conferences ACC people.
You'll be forced to watch some stuff because you play
call and Stamford and and oh and Michigan State fans
complaining about having to kickoff at eight pm, eleven pm.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
And you're jumping and now you get it.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Baby, Welcome to sit there, Welcome, welcome, and now we're we're.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Gonna get into that. We're gonna get into that. My
last one, and I'm curious to what your your three
takeaways from week two are. My last one is that
bounce backs are just as much fun as the people
who level up. They really are. I watched some Toledo
Western Kentucky. You got Maverick mckiver who was at Texas
Tech and is now just like a stat stuffing monster.

(05:51):
He spent You're at Abilene Christian last year. Now he's
in his final year of college football at Western Kentucky.
And man, he can sling it. And I'm always known
he was good. But it was crowded quarterback room at
Texas Tech. You had Tyler Schuck you you know, their
current starter was still there at that point and Maverick
mc iver and then on the other side, I think

(06:12):
because I think Toledo won this game, chip Trainum ran
for one hundred and sixty three yards, what do you know?
And so chip Trainum started at Arizona State at running back,
went to Ohio State, won the game against Notre Dame
if I'm not mistaken with a carry with no time left. Yeah,

(06:33):
and then switched to linebacker at Ohio State. And I
think he's from Northeast Ohio. Spent last year at the
University of Kentucky. Now he's finishing up his college football
career at Toledo. And he just he just ran for
one hundred and sixty four yards.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
He was back at running back.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Okay, yeah, he's back at running back. He's back at
running back. But like some of these games, these lesser
games that you tune into, you see some big names and.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
They yeah, you didn't know where they were, Like you
need to do we do a segment called where are
they now? Every I remember they used to do that
for sports. Where are they now? Ideas poppin anyways, Uh,
my big three, my three big takeaways for this last
week were we need to not not even we y'all,

(07:20):
y'all need to stop using the word generational before somebody
is proven on the field that they are generational. And
I'm talking and and Ryan Clark actually got a lot
of hate for this this last week where he was like,
I don't think Peyton Manning was generational, Tom Brady and
all of this, But he was talking about physically obviously

(07:40):
there were legendary players and generational players, but physically generational
in terms of athleticism, skill set, all of that, all
of that stuff, and people couldn't understand the fact that
generational talent doesn't necessarily turn into generational player. And so
we just need to stop using the word general because

(08:02):
Lebron only comes around once a generation. You know, Wimby
comes around once a generation. That's generational. It's not like
Steph Curry's not generational, generationally talented. He was generationally great,
but not generationally talented.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Some of these some of these towns, they behan kids
at like fifteen, sixteen years old, So it's it's it's
a tighter window.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
For what a generation.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
I'm curious though, you play you played tight end, you
played tight end.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Who is the.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Physically generational and talent wise generational in the last twenty years,
Who were two guys that you felt like were physically
the most talented at the tight end position to come
through college football and the and and production wise the
most talented? Is it like a darn Darnell Washington for physicality?

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Oh out of uh Alabama, I'm sorry from Georgia. That
came from yeah, Vegas, Vegas? Oh god, yes, bro, he
is like.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
He's a he's a humongous human and he can and
he can run a decent speed.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
And catch and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
But he but he's also doesn't move generationally like he's
just generational size, Like he's a special specimen in terms of.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Size, like Leonard Pope also at Georgia, Ga.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yes, dude, and I know that people are gonna call
me homer ish on this, but like, honestly, one of
the most physically special oh oh oh, Vernon Vernon Davis.
Vernon Davis was generationally like a generational type because the
dude ran four to three and six three six four

(09:46):
two hundred and fifty pounds like and he would block
and so yeah, he was but currently the twenty twenty
five version of Vernon Davis is Kenyan to dec at Oregon.
I know people are gonna call me a homer, but
the kid is the most athletic, athletically and physically gifted

(10:06):
tight end Oregon has ever had, and before that it
was probably me. So that lets you know, I mean
in terms of like physical like there's a difference between
athleticism and being a great athlete, like I was a
phenomenal athlete, like I could play multiple.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Sports through all these things and all that.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
But yeah, my second takeaway is I have no clue
through two weeks who's elite yet?

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Like which if there are any elite.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
College football teams and people might say oh Oregon or
you know, Ohio State, any of those, we just haven't
seen enough of them against great competition yet because Ohio
State versus Tennessee that wasn't the greatest football that you've
ever seen. But these teams are going to evolve. I
just haven't seen a team that I believe is elite yet.

(10:58):
Well then I'm that I'm sure?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Is it? Ly? Do you think we could maybe get
through this season without any undefeated power forward teams?

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Do you think it's possibility, it's possible, but yeah, yeah,
I definitely think it's possible.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
But you could have who could come out of that?

Speaker 1 (11:22):
I mean technically you could have Florida State come out
of the ACC maybe.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Or maybe at Miami.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, yeah, possibly Miami. I think Oregon or Ohio State
could run through the entire Big twelve, Big Ten because
they don't play each other in the SEC. No chance,
no chance, no chance. There's nobody that we've seen so far.
That and Texas has already taken a loss, and there's

(11:52):
Alabama's already lost. So yeah, I mean, unless you technically could,
but I don't. Yeah, I'm confused about how good they
are because Clemson looks so bad right now.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
What was your last takeaway? Major takeaways from the weekend?

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Oh that adapting to college football matters. And this is
a Mike Gundy.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Talk.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Oh Man, eighteen years of what winning records and all
of that stuff thrown away because he did not adapt
to the changes in college football. So you do have
to have somebody who can read and react to what's
going on without overreacting.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Do you did you see the comments from Mike Gundy's
oldest son, No, Okay, so he got online on x
I thought it was a burner because it was like
a Mike Gundy fan account, but I guess it's run
by his son. Yeah, And we live in the era

(12:58):
where people's kids can just go out and say whatever
they want on social media, and I kind of hope
that that does something for us, where like we don't
make adults responsible for the words of their adult children.
Like that we realize these are separate human beings. Mike
Tomlin's got a kid out here who just says whatever

(13:18):
is on his mind on TikTok every single day. And
it's the wildest thing in the world because you see
people in the comments being like you're dishonoring your dead
or you're like like, no, these are two separate people
who share the same last name. And we got to
get you know, we got to get to that point
where that's a thing that we can accept. But Mike
Gundy's son, he said it was about like the people

(13:42):
who were criticizing his father. His name is Gavin Gundy.
He said, imagine being this pathetic. You will never understand
the size of balls it takes to do what he does,
and how Oklahoma State would be completely irrelevant without him.
So you can sit there and tweet all you want,
but you will never know what it takes to be
successful in life.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Life.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
What do we think about that?

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Now?

Speaker 1 (14:04):
On one hand, I get it, dude, he's defending his dad,
of course, But to me, they might Yes, that's what
I'm saying. Two things can be true. Maybe Oklahoma State
would be irrelevant without his dad, but maybe they would
have hired a coach who would have been relevant and
also adapted.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Who knows. But the part that.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
He's missing in the situation is is that as great
of a job that his dad did for so many years,
he's doing a terrible job right now for the last
couple of years in terms of adapting.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
And it has made quote.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
The stat that you brought up the other day, it's
mind blowing to me the losses he's taken in the
last three years.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yes, the losses he's taken. So he got beat by
Hold up, let me make sure I pull it up
to way I tell the way I'm giving the exact
stat the way we don't even have I.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Think I think the numbers are progressive, like the way
you get the oh yes, unreal.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
So in the last so In twenty twenty two, they
got beat by Kansas State by forty eight points. Kansas State, okay, outlier,
maybe somebody's heard this, this, this, that's a lot of points.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Last year they got beat by Colorado by fifty two points.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
There is under zero circumstances should you get beat by
Colorado last year. Granted they were a good football team,
but by fifty two points, that's not even being competitive
or even like that's an effort problem too. And then
this year you get beat by Oregon by sixty six points,
So that means that you are so far away from

(15:54):
being competitive from good teams that you can't even fathom,
Like if they played Ohios, they lose by sixty points
two and probably five ten other teams. That means that
you are so far off the mark that I don't
believe that he can that he is the man that
can fix the situation, because I say that there are

(16:16):
two rules to fire in a coach. One is there
a coach that I can guarantee get that will do
a better job, And you're like, it's hard to do
worse than what's going on right right now, So the
answer that's probably yes. And then there is the question
of is there a loss of hope? Like can you

(16:37):
go into the houses of seventeen to twenty two year
olds that will be in the portal and sell them
on the fact that the future is brighter in the past.
And I believe that that answer is no. So that
means that it's time to change leadership. But that doesn't
mean that that that doesn't take away from what happened.
It'd be like if Bill Belichick colossal like it doesn't

(17:00):
work at North Carolina trying to say that he's a
bad football cult or it takes anything away from his legacy,
it does not. Or if Nick Saban came back and
you know he didn't win.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, I mean tell that to Nebraska fans when they
talk about Scott Frost as a player now, like they
they his tenure and the things.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Well, I mean he also said I took the wrong
job and this this and this that.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
But I that's what I worry about for Mike Gundy
is that this gets to the point, if it hasn't already,
where we have a mad king right Game of Throne
style where because the one of the coolest things that
that has ever happened in this country is George Washington
handing the job.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Off to the will of the to the will of
the people.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah, you know, and if you love this university, it's
time to realize that you can't be having one fifty
point loss to another power Forward team every year.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
And I also when I quit my ma at My Dog,
my job hosting Mad Dog, and I was like, it
was time for somebody else to have that job, Like
it's a special job to have a national radio show
and all of that stuff.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
There were other.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Factors involved in it, but also my but big bit
because of that, it was no longer for me, like
I couldn't do as good of a job as I
wanted to do with that job any anymore. So it
was time for somebody else to be able to have
that opportunity that I got blessed with. I was no
longer the best man for that job.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
And we watched Chip Kelly hand off being the head
coach of UCLA to go back to doing the thing
he loves and calling place. If Mike Gunny still loves ball,
there are a lot of high schools out there that
could use his knowledge, you.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Know, or or or even take this up.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Mike gundhy Go away year two years, pop back up
like Dan Mullin would have, would have would like fresh energy,
a fresh vision, a fresh plan, and then get back
to work. There's nothing wrong with that. I would hire
Mike Mike Gundy potentially, depending on my university and situation

(19:21):
after a couple of years off, if he comes with
a new vision, a new plan and all of that stuff.
Why not because he had a lot of success.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, sixteen winning records in a row. Yeah, yeah, you
can in Stillwater. Not that still Water's a dumber anything.
That's who brought us Berry Sanders and Derman Thomas exactly,
Like sixteen in a row is crazy, yes, exactly?

Speaker 3 (19:44):
All right? What else do we have today, mister Ralph Ams?

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Then?

Speaker 3 (19:48):
All right?

Speaker 2 (19:48):
So the thing about college football apostiles is we get
into some of the weird stuff. We get into some
of the major stories. But I have to know, George,
have you ever gone to a media member's house and
filmed them on the toilet?

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Are are we being serious? No?

Speaker 2 (20:05):
I'm being serious?

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Have you ever? Have you ever filmed on the toilet?
Is my wife? Does this require a follow up?

Speaker 1 (20:18):
I mean just like filming something and just messing whatever?
While she was in the bathroom or something.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, like trolling and stuff. Yes, okay, So Steve sarkisian
was asked about arch Manning visibly wincing when he throws.
Obviously there's some discomfort there. It's normal to notice if
somebody's limping. It's normal to notice if somebody's wincing, if

(20:46):
somebody bleeds. Like we're all watching this and the cameras
are in four k. Now, something is wrong with arch Manning. Now?
Is it something serious? Is it something limiting? We're never
gonna know because college coaches aren't necessarily, uh fourth coming
honest about any of this. But Steve Sarksianus asked about this,

(21:09):
and his response was, I've never filmed any of you
guys when you're using the restroom, so I don't know
what faces you make when you're doing that.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Dude, that was the worst analogy of all time. My
family says that I come up with bad analogies when
we're having discussions about things, but this was this can't
be like, I can't have a worse analogy in my
family discussions than this. What does fit a media member

(21:40):
being on a toilet have to do with with this
dude actually playing football? That we're all supposed to be watching.
He did, and I asked my kids. I have two
quarterback sons. I asked them, what does this look like
to you? Oh, that it hurt when he threw it.
I don't, I don't know what I was and never like,

(22:04):
but I can't see my face when I typically throw
the throw the ball. But I've seen a lot of them,
and that's a WinCE. I was like, so, does that
mean that something's wrong? And they were like, sometimes something
will hurt, just just once though, And we did only
see one. I've only seen one video, like the back
clip and the front clip of him wincing on one throw.

(22:27):
So it could be a one throw thing, or he
could have something like little minor going on. And they
obviously don't want to tell it and they don't want
to make excuses and all that stuff out in the public.
But Sark was very he's very protective of art right
right now. But the reality is he knows what's on film.

(22:48):
He knows that he's watching the film. He's coach quarterbacks.
He knows that this is not what the world was expecting,
or probably what he was expecting in the first two games.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, and I mean, it could just easily be like
his ribs are tight. It could be very very simple.
That's the face I make when I get off the couch.
So it's not I still I could still get up.
I could still I could still get off the couch
and walk to the fridge. But sometimes I got a
WinCE a little bit.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah, you know, but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
He did kind of imply that his quarterback took a
dump while in the shotgun, So yeah, I mean, like,
what are we what? And he looked kind of proud
of the metaphor.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
And then that one he planned that one, and and
he was like, I'm gonna kill him with this one.
I'm gonna kill him with this one. And You're like, you,
you probably should have vetted that joke gets somebody, or
vetted that with somebody who wasn't a yes man.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Who's Texas got this week? Who Texas up the game?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
They te Texas schedule is uh, is not the most
daunting thing that you've ever seen in college football comparatively
to like, because Oklahoma fans, who who do have temple
this this week, they have a legitimate reason to be
upset about the SEC scheduling that they've gotten. So Texas

(24:26):
has U TIP and then Santos Sam Houston State.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Okay, So challenge to University of Texas El Paso fans
send pictures of yourself on the toilet this week.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Oh are they playing against? Uh? Oh? God? Is U
Tip where Malachi?

Speaker 2 (24:48):
I think?

Speaker 3 (24:48):
So?

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Of course he at UTSA No, no, no, that's where
he is. Oh okay Malachi one and one, five touchdowns,
one pick, two hundred, four hundred and fifty six yards. Okay, Okay,
Yeah that Utah State they lost to Utah State twenty

(25:12):
eight sixteen, and then ut Martin they beat forty two
to seventeen.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
So I mean it sounds it sounds like that's what
Steve Sarkisan's asking for. So make sure if you're if
you're a UTEP fan, tag him in all your pictures
of yourself in the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah, that was the silence in the media room.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
The exact like, the exact lack of sound was was
what followed Steve Sarkisian's comment. Let's move on from this
and get into Bill Belichick going absolutely galaxy brain to
try to reinvent college football and banning the New England

(25:56):
Patriots scouts from North Carolina practice Georgia was my understanding
that the vision for North Carolina is to be the
thirty third NFL team, And maybe he's taking that literally
to mean that if we're an NFL team, why would
we let other NFL teams around because we knew what
we did when we were around, We filmed practices, So

(26:18):
we don't want these NFL teams copying off us or
is this just really petty stuff because that he had
to comment on it, Mike Rabel had to comment on
it of just him trying to get back at one
NFL team.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
This is pathetic and it's petty and though and the
rest of the things that he's doing are pathetic and
petty too well, actually pathetic and nonsensical. So NFL scouts
are limited on what days they can go to practice
like severely, and they can only come for the first
three periods, which includes stretching. So he wants the teams

(26:56):
to have to come to him and take his word
as like trust me, bro, instead of making their own
evaluations from things that they see in practice, whether somebody
who's working hard this or that it's it's terrible. And
you look at a team like Oregon they just they're

(27:19):
I want to read it to you exactly the way
you don't. Well, I don't misquote it. Because their NFL
Liaison of the Year, Cody Look, in recognition for your
contributions to NFL scouting in your performance as pro liaison

(27:39):
during the twenty twenty four college football season. This was
presented by the like the Scouts Association and people with
the NFL and all of that stuff. Oregon gives unfettered,
pretty much unfettered access to scouts, to practice, to film,
to all of this stuff. It's a wonder that you

(28:01):
have ten players drafted because they're getting better evaluations on
those players. So I don't understand, especially when you are
supposed to be developing players for the NFL. If I
were a parent, I would not be sending my kids
to North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
I just wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
If I was the president of the University of North
Carolina at Chapel Hill, I and I went through everything
that we went through this offseason with the distractions of
you know, Jordan Hudson and all that stuff. I'm walking
into Bill Belichick's office, I'm looking at him right in
the eye, and I'm saying, if you won't reverse this decision.

(28:42):
We are firing you for cause today because it's a
personal matter that he has brought into his current job
that could affect the futures of the student athletes that
they're bringing in. That's thing number one one, But thing
number two that makes this so egregious, George, Who did

(29:05):
the New England Patriots spend a first round pick on
last year base of the franchise?

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Oh, Drake May? Right?

Speaker 2 (29:14):
So what kind of position are you putting Drake May
in as a University of North Carolina alone?

Speaker 1 (29:23):
What kind of connection who that that you should be
able to celebrate and you're not even so? So now
you're not gonna post him on social media if he
has a big win and all of this stuff, Come on.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Man, right, Like I'm wearing a Wyoming hat right now.
They're retiring Josh Allen's jersey. He wasn't even that good
at Wyoming, like, not objectively good by college football standards.
You and I have had this conversation a million times.
He's good for a Wyoming quarterback, but they're gonna retire
his jersey. The never retired to anybody's jersey before. But
like University of Wyoming's gonna be able to dine off

(29:54):
this Josh Allen stuff.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
For dollars two because he knows.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, he just he just kicked a bunch of money
to his hometown, uh for youth sports via New Balance.
Like he's always he's always sharing the love, he's always
sharing the wealth. He bought his parents, like fifty million
pistachio trees for their for their farm. Like he's probably
going to help out University of Wyoming Drake May if

(30:21):
he ends up popping off because he's a very, very
talented individual. What are you supposed to do with that?
If you're a University of North Carolina and Bill Belichick
is bringing his personal issues in his personal life. Yeah,
I honestly like all the girlfriend's stuff was so beyond me.

(30:42):
It felt like such not a football thing that weighing
in on it felt very weird. I didn't like all
the Pablo Tory stuff on it.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Just it's his.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yes, it's affecting the university and there's a lot of
money involved. I understand why it was a story. It
just made me uncomfortable. This is a football story and
it is completely absurd, and you're affecting the best player,
the highest drafted player to come out of North Carolina
in years as being the starting quarterback for the New

(31:12):
England Patriots with your petty personal issues with Robert Kraft
in that organization and it's absurd.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
All right, next topic, let's talk about Dion Sanders. Once
a year, he pulls a move that is so out
of left field, so unexpected, and so fascinating. A couple
of years ago, it was firing Sean Lewis yep, and everybody,
I think us included, was like, what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Correct, And I think ultimately at the end of the
day like that that probably worked out okay. But this
time he has a quarterback on his roster who was
the backup to Shador Sanders. He brings in one of
the top cruits in the entire country who gets put

(32:03):
over him, and he brings in a transfer who also
gets put over him. And by halftime of game two,
Ryan Stobb is out there slinging it and is announced
to be the starter against the University of Houston this weekend.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
George, what is going on? Wait? Hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
I saw a tweet earlier this morning that that's why
I was down here typing. But now I can't find
it on Dion Sanders account where uh somebody said that
he that Ryan Stopped who who used to be on
the same high school team as my son, because I
don't know if you know he went he went to

(32:43):
sc before he went to West Rams Okay. So wow, yeah,
and and yeah that I'll tell you the private stuff
about that.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
But well so R J R. J.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Lewis said that he was, a bunch of people said
that he was, and now Dilon is saying Ryan Stop
has been doing a phenomenal job getting the majority of
the reps, but I haven't made that assessment or decision yet, George,
why do you give somebody the majority of the reps
in practice if they're not starting?

Speaker 3 (33:13):
So so, so here is the thing.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Is that Dion quote tweeted which is now gone, and
he said, we don't care about being right.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
All we care about is being first.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
So I'm sitting so I'm thinking that is Ryan Stob
not the starter. And but now I feel that this
is probably gamesmanship by Dion. But Dion didn't want to
openly say that he was the starter, that he wasn't
the starter, because Dion is not about lying either. So

(33:51):
That's why I think that Dion he it appears he
deleted that tweet, and I think his comment says exactly
because Dion is not a liar. Like you can call
him a lot of things, a liar's not one of them.
And so I think he felt uncomfortable even towing that line.
So I think he tried to walk up to that
as much as possible without telling a lie.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, and you do have to be you do have
to be careful with some of this stuff because here's
a situation that could have happened. I'm not saying that
it's what did happen, but it could have happened. If
you tell one quarterback one thing, but you haven't had
that conversation with the other two quarterbacks. That quarterback texts
his dad, his dad texts a buddy, the buddy texts

(34:34):
somebody in the media, and then all of a sudden,
sources say Ryan Stott is starting, but Dion hasn't had
that conversation with his other two quarterbacks that are on
the roster. Then it creates a situation with Kadenssalter and
Juju Lewis where you know there could be some issues.
Arizona State dealt with this when I was covering the team.

(34:54):
Drew Pine's dad would feed everything to Pete family, So
every single thing that was happening with Arizona State. You know,
Drew Pine's dad as a TV executive, and he's just
messaging it all to one reporter and it gets out
there before everybody has all the information. So you got
to be careful about some of this stuff. But we're
talking about a guy who wasn't even really in the conversation,

(35:17):
or at least the conversation everybody else.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Ever, it was expected to either be Ryan Salter or
Julian Lewis. And then they asked Dion about Julian Lewis
last week and he was like, he's going to play
this week, and Deon told the truth. He did play,
but it just wasn't a way that you thought. It
wasn't exactly the way that you thought. So I'm happy
for Ryan Stopp. I knew Salter wasn't going to last

(35:40):
as a starter for very long after that first week.
I was like, ugh, And so you know, hey man,
you gotta do what you gotta do to win to
win football games.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Always play the best player. Always.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
The one thing that I support Dion in wholeheartedly is
I do firmly believe that if you're gonna have some
cupcakes early in your schedule, every one should get in
the game in meaningful situations because we've the one thing
that we've always seen in the history of college football
is that practice does not tell you what you have.
It tells you what you might have, but it does
not tell you what you actually have. So everybody should

(36:13):
be getting game reps if you want to know who
actually is the man on your roster. So maybe that's
what's going on. But Houston opened up a six point favorite,
So this is going to be really really interesting week.
Let's keep it in the Big twelve because the Big
Twelve just suspended a referee crew. Did you hear about this,

(36:34):
George No?

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Okay, So in the Missouri Kansas State game. Oh, the
referee in in that game was atrocious, by the way.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, and it was also we had a Big twelve
crew in Arizona State Mississippi State. It was not bad,
it wasn't poorly officiated, but they did call a chop
block on a touchdown past that made it seventeen to nothing,
and then the refs came over and picked up the
flag and said, just kidding, it's not a chop block.
And then you go to the replane, it was like, oh,

(37:08):
that's that's like the textbook definition of what one is. Yeah,
and so it was an interesting week for Big Twelve
referees in interconference matchups. But this is the statement from
the Big Twelve. The Big Twelve officials in Saturday's Kansas
Missouri game allowed a punt to occur on a free
kick in violation of rule two, Section sixteen, Article six
of NCAA Football Rules. That Big twelve officiating crew has

(37:30):
been removed from its next scheduled assignment on Friday, September twelve.
Is that the Colorado Houston game a Friday game? Right, Yeah?

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah, So that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
We believe that we have one of the best officiating
programs in college football, said Big Twelve Chief Football and
Competition Officer Scott Draper. When the conference is high standard
for officiating has not met, the Big Twelve will take action.
If Scott Draper was running the Pac twelve, that everyone
would have been fired two weeks into the season.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Hey, we wouldn't even have I love that. I love that.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
There has to be accountability when it's so bad because
allowing a pump when it was a free kick, Like
that's a major issue, But that means that there were
significant other issues during the game. And when if they're
that bad, they gotta go. I'm sorry, this is not

(38:26):
a charity event. There's too much money on the line
for whether it's better. There's too much money on the
line for people who showed up and paid their money
to go see the game watching on television. Sorry, if
you're bad, if you're objectively bad and you grade out horribly,
then yes, you gotta go. Like nobody expects perfection, but

(38:47):
we do expect rule competency. I mean, like, like you
should not mess up on the rules, especially when there's
help available to you.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Would you believe me if I told you this is
the first known suspension or punishment of an officiating crew
in college football since two thousand and nine.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Oh wow, do you know what that means? That means
that there's more to this story. That's what that means.
But where where's Pablo Tori at when we need them?

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Ah?

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, that's a great question. Okay, So, uh, this one
I think will be interesting to you. The University of
Southern California is two and oh. They dominated their competitions.
They it's it's not great competition, but not a lot
of people play great comradition. Yeah, not not unique to

(39:39):
them though, So we're not singling out USC at all.
They are currently in the a people coming in at thirtieth.
What do we think about that USC being two and
oh and thirtieth in the country.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
That says that USC has a out as much good
will built up the last couple of years as Nebraska has.
Nebraska is a blue blood too. USC is a blue blood.
But when you don't get benefit of the doubt as
a blue blood, that means what you've put on tape
the last few years is not like like, there's a

(40:18):
reason why Colorado did not get the initial hype last
year after being like four or five and zero or
whatever in the beginning of the season, because the season
before they did it and then it was a tail
spin after. So I believe that they are in weight
and see mode with USC. Think about USC's beginning of

(40:40):
their schedule, and I understand their fans frustration because they
put up, we're number one in scoring, we're number one
in this We're number one and all like Okay, but
you haven't.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Played anybody yet.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
However, yes, you it is not just them that has
not played you know, any power for opponents or anything else,
but this they had.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
They're at perdue.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Now I finally am reluctantly put USC in my top
twenty five this week they come in at number twenty four.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
But I was.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Hesitant, and and that's probably how the other voters feel.
A seventy three to thirteen win over it, and they'll
they'll us say, oh, we don't play any f CS programs. Well,
Missouri State is just a FBS program this year, I believe.
And then you play Georgia Southern, And yes, if you

(41:36):
had come into season ranked, but but with all the
other teams that could be ranked, like Vanderbilt that could
be ranked, you got BYU who could be ranked, Baylor
all could be ranked, and you want to fight over it,
just just relax you. Eventually you are USC, and it'll

(41:56):
happen because they play at Purdue, then they played Michigan State,
then they play at Illinois. If they win those three
games and then beat Michigan after that too, they're going
to be a top five team. But people are like, man,
we'll see We've heard this Lincoln Riley story before, so

(42:20):
I don't feel bad about it. And this is why
people have asked me about Oregon's ranking in particular. They've
been like, oh, well, how do you feel about them
being ranked fifth, six, seventh or whatever to start the season? Well,
seventh to start season. I was like, it's actually perfect
because nobody's been talking about them. And that's why being
number one for so long last year mattered, because nobody

(42:45):
overtook you. That means that other people are starting to
buy in and get used to the idea of you.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
In these spots.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Like for instance, I watched Joel Klatt put up his
top ten yesterday and he said, he said twice in there,
oh well, well, you know, Penn State, they didn't look great,
that great, but I'm gonna give them the benefit of
the doubt. LSU didn't look that great this week, but
I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt. That's
what you are, benefit of the doubt. Now, I don't

(43:12):
do my rankings based upon benefit of the doubt, but
that's what happens.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
I think I find it concerning to me. They are
certainly a top twenty five team talent wise. Yes, they
have two of the best receivers in the country. Jacoby
Lane might have the best hands of anyone. Yeah, and
Eli Sanders was a great pickup in the portal. They've

(43:41):
done a lot to rework that offensive line. They are
well coached on the defense, certainly better coach than they
were when Alex Grinch was in charge. We've talked at
length about that. They're recruiting like crazy. It almost seems
like a repudiation of Lincoln Riley inarticular. Now there are
ten of the sixty four voters who did put them

(44:03):
on their ballot, one person as high as twelve. But
to be left off to be for USC in any
season in the history of college football, to be to
and O and be left off fifty four different people's
ballots is fascinating, and it's at least noteworthy. There's a
reason that we're talking about it. Let's stay in southern California,
your home, sunny, beautiful. Currently not on fire Southern California,

(44:27):
but we might have a program that's on fire. UCLA
has started oh into.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yes, they laid sorry, Oh.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
No, you can definitely take over from here because it's
something that you are particularly close to you're married into it,
you're a season ticket holder, you interviewed the head coach,
and you know, I'm very curious as to what your
thoughts are.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Okay, So, in the Utah game, which they lost forty
three to ten, was in attendance. I expected Utah to
win that football game. I but you know, I did
want to see how Utah was going to be. I
expected their office in line to be great, expected their

(45:16):
defense to be good. I wanted to see Devin Dampier.
I left that game being like, damn, did U c
l A need need to get in the weight room?

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Are their players not big enough?

Speaker 1 (45:27):
And I do understand that that Devin Dampier's slipperier than
than than a can of oil. But it was just
a beat down and I could accept that because I
believe that Utah could be a This could be a
very special Utah team. So you know, I don't expect
UCLA to be able to compete with the Oregon or

(45:48):
or Ohio State. So why should I be able to
expect them to compete with a guy with well with
a team that I believe that could give those teams
a headache?

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Right?

Speaker 1 (46:03):
So, and I also believed that Nico would start a
little bit slow this season because he got in so late,
and the offense would take a little time to get
get going. So all of those things I expected. But
then the UNLV game with the way UNLV looked against
Idaho State, and then they played.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Who did they play their second game?

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Are you talking about? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Yeah, UNLV They it was Sam Houston their second game.
They won thirty eight to twenty one, so it was
better than the Idaho State game. So I was like, okay,
you UNOV, who I picked to go to the college
football playoff as the G five representative.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Okay, they're getting better. Okay, so you had to know
that th slow.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
The whole team is new, yes, correct, good players, they're
all like needing for the fair first time exactly, So
room with strangers like you probably get better at it
as you go, but those first few minutes you're still
trying to get to know everybody's tendency exactly.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
And then they were playing alex org still and all
that stuff. But in the UCLA game, UNLV only played
one quarterback, which was the right which was the right move?

Speaker 3 (47:22):
And or sorry or.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Stayed they should have stayed. Playing only one quarterback because
now alex Orgy's out for the season.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yes, so Nico, like I saw tenant Tennessee fans as
we knew harping on Nico, Nico is the bright spot
of this game, of this team right now, the bright spot.
They started down twenty three to oh and then kicked
the field go before halftime, so it was twenty three
to three, and then in the second half they damn

(47:53):
near pitched a shutout. So I was highly encouraged by
the fact that they didn't with and then what I
saw out of the offense in the second half, I
was like, oh, there's something there, There's something there. So
this game for UCLA against New Mexico is crucial if

(48:16):
they go out there and take care of business, because
remember Michigan.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Had a little, uh little.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
They beat New Mexico handily, but they didn't just run
away on them. So I'm if you and the if
UCLA can do some things to New Mexico and then
go win at Northwestern, all will be fine and we'll
chalk it up to a slow start, which is what
I expected. But if they lose to New Mexico, Yeah,

(48:47):
if they lose to New Mexico and lose to North
Northwestern that that's major league bad, bad bad.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Before we get into rister wrong, you haven't been. I
think you've probably been more gracious towards Niko than a
lot of people. You're also not covered in sausage gravy
of sec bias. But this man is hated and Tennessee

(49:20):
is two and zero, joe Yagyard is playing good and
Tennessee fans are dancing.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
On But that doesn't change what That doesn't change what
that family has said with which is Josh Heipel's offense
doesn't hasn't produced NFL quarterbacks or NFL wide receivers who've.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Done anything, So that that doesn't change.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Because Tennessee is having success, that doesn't change what they said,
regardless of it could be just a matter of time
prior to that happening, but that doesn't change the family's
feeling on it. And and you don't know who was
right or who was wrong until Nico gets gets drafted,

(50:06):
you won't You won't know. And then if he goes
on and has success, if he only wins five games
at UCLA this year, next year wins seven games, then
goes on to the NFL, gets drafted in the first
round plays really well.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Did he make the right decision? Yes, So this is
not a short term answer. This is actually a long
term play for Aguilar and for Nil.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
I wish that it had that he had just said
I want to go home. Yeah, I really wish that
that's what it was, because Tennessee fans would not have
taken that well. But I don't think that they would
be trying to hold him accountable for UCLA not having
as talented of a roster as Tennessee. Because Dannie O'Neil

(51:00):
started all year last year at San Diego State. He
would have been the starter again this year. And what
did he say, I want to be closer to home.
So he went to Wisconsin and he was just gonna
be the backup. Now he's starting. But like that, that
excuse can get you out of a lot of this
this animosity. Yes, instead of saying it's a you, it's
a you problem, I'm leaving you because of you. Well,

(51:23):
now they are too and oh and you are zero
and two and they're having a great time with it.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
All right, let's schedule get tricky soon. It is.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Let's get into reister wrong here this weekend. So yeah,
let's get into Riister wrong. These topics are going maybe
a little bit less analysis and just I want to
know what your thoughts are on some of the wacky
things that happened in week two. Reister are wrong or

(51:56):
let's do it this way. Fran Brown was Reister or
Fran Brown was wrong? Are making Syracuse run after narrowly
defeating Yukon at home?

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Oh it was Reister. It was Reister because it hit
me in the fields. I loved it.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
I loved everything about it. And there are very few
college football coaches who can make a team run on
the field which is publicly embarrassing them, and still keep
the locker room because I guarantee you when they turn
on the film, well, in that moment, they were like, yo,
is this dude serious? But then they knew he was
serious because he's probably done other stuff that they're like, well, yep,

(52:32):
this is coach Fran being coach Fran and there's a
standard that he is trying to set and clearly they
didn't meet that standard with their with their effort and
their energy. So he was like, I guess y'all ain't tired,
so or we need to be in better shape. So
either either way, let's get some laugh, let's get some

(52:55):
running in Georgie.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
It is amazing. What what will make all heads happy?
It's truly amazing. His players out jogging on the field
and then all of a sudden, all of a sudden.
All that's a real football coach right there. That's what
we need more of in America. Accountability. I'm not saying

(53:17):
my oldest son is a is a bad person. He's
he's actually great, upstanding citizen, good dude. But he holds
the door for old ladies, says please and thank you, yes, ma'am, no, ma'am,
and he loves the taste of Worther's originals. He could
be the worst person on earth outside of those things.
And grandmother's across America will think my oldest son is
the greatest human being on the planet. It is so

(53:39):
easy to please a boomer. It is so easy to
please some people. And making people run after practice. That's
got to be like just the easiest way to have
booms be like Fran Brown, that's a real football coach,
all right. Reister wrong having no dog in the fight whatsoever.
Fans are reister or wrong for rooting for Tulane to

(54:04):
beat duke on principle on some class warfare ship.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
So Darien Mensa was purchased off of ok to go
to du playing each other?

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Should should fans just always be rooting for the underdog?
Uh no, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Fans should be rooting for good stories, for the things
that for the outcomes that entertain them. And And it's
funny because I think sometimes people try to, like in boxing,
where Jake Paul is I mean, Mike Tyson and Floyd
Mayweather is supposed to fighting now or something right now.

(54:53):
You know, I've been in on the Jake Paul fights
for the most part, and people it's abomination of boxing
and all the stuff.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
And I'm like, no, it's because.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
At the end of the day, sports is entertainment and
if you are making something that entertains the fans and
makes the fans happy, then you have won. So the
fans get to choose which story that they love and
they follow. So the fans can want outcomes, and the

(55:27):
best outcome for fans is either it's something that evokes emotion,
either utter disappointment and heartbreak or marvel and like oh
my God, like like that they saw a spectacle. That's
what you want. You you you you don't want to
leave saying oh those cool game. No, you want to
be like, oh my god, it was the best game

(55:48):
I've ever seen, or man, that was whack. These refs
suck like you want them to have some reaction. So
in this Duke tu Lane game, whatever the outcome is is,
as a fan, I just want to have a reaction.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
It's hard for me to be upset with Darien Mensa
when John Sumral, the head coach of Tulayne, is not
and when he's come out and said like that has
a lot of money, Like I've made moves for money too. Yes,
And Darien Mensa is not a kid who was recruited
in high school. He went from he went from no

(56:26):
major offers to the most in demand available quarterback. And
he looks good. He looks really good. He looks like
a future NFL player, and I'm hoping that you know,
you know, eat the rich is a popular sentiment right now,
and I understand people rooting against Duke just on principle,
but I can't root against Darry Mensa. I don't care,

(56:49):
and I just want him to look good and have
a good game. I don't care if Tuwayne wins or loses.
It'd be a great story for Twaine if they continue
on this revenge to her. They just need somebody out
there to say something bad about New Orleans and they'll
be they'll be able to manufacture outrage like they did
against Northwestern. All right, So reister or wrong? Sharon Moore

(57:10):
was reister or wrong for naming Biff Pogi the interim
head coach as he serves his suspension.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
We'll go with reister because Biff Pogy puts his money
where his mouth is, so so who knows what Biff
Pogi is doing to help out And he's been a
head coach over at Charlotte, and Biff Pogi is probably
not a guy who like he like if you make
one of your coordinators your head coach, that just adds

(57:43):
a lot of responsibility to them. So you give it
to a guy who's been a head coach, who is
going to stay in line with the values that you say,
and then the and then the plan that you put
in place, and you're fine, and they're playing timp It'll
be all right.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Who cares? Hopefully hopefully? He was six and sixteen at
the University of Charlotte. I got a front row seat
to that, to the to the to the Sleeveless Biff
Pody Show. But Shilmore did say that Biff Pody will
be wearing a full T shirt. Welcome to Davos, Davo Swinny,
and you already commented on this, so I kind of

(58:22):
know where you're going with it. Damo Swinny was reister
or wrong for essentially saying that LSU only looked good
if we're grading on a curve. He said, we failed,
they got a D. He is one hundred percent reister.

(58:45):
LSU did not look good this last week. When you
go back and watch that Clemson film versus LSU, Clemson
was utter hot, steaming pile of terrible garbage on the
offensive line. That is the nicest way to put it.

(59:08):
And you know, I picked Clemton to win the National championship.
Whether it was coaching assignments, busted assignments, execution, you cannot
win when your offensive line plays like that. Their defense
held them to seventeen points, which is enough to be

(59:30):
able to get a win. Their offense, with their offensive line,
they couldn't run the football. Kate klub Nick is seeing
ghosts right now because there's so much pressure at them.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
This is atrocious and I don't know what is going
on with their offensive line personnel scheme.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
It all looks bad right now. So, yes, Dabo was right,
and you.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Had Brian Kelly gloating the next well, yeah we're great.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Yeah, look at uh what is he talking about? We
got a eight? Did you watch the film? LSU? Three losses?
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Three three three lasses in a college football playoff appearance.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
I think he's gonna be tight for them. I picked
him to finish second in the SEC. But after seeing
how bad Clemson was that that win don't look as
good to me now, which is which is why Clemson
came in unranked this week in the top twenty five, unranked,
my national championship team, unranked.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Raither wrong. Michigan State fans are reister or wrong for
being super upset about an eleven pm Eastern kickoff when
they visit LA.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
They are one. I don't even know you know what.
We do not care.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
We do not care people on the West Coast. So
I'm not even gonna give it a right or wrong.
We do not care West Coast and my and my
brother in law. He's super happy. He's he's a he
moved out here from from from East Lansing. He's a
Michigan State fan to his bones.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
He's so happy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Daughter will be in the bad sleep. He can enjoy it,
enjoy a great game. So I am happy for my
brother in law. But Michigan State fans, listen, I don't
give a damn whether it's Clemson, Rutgers, whoever else got
to come out here and play on at eight pm, Alabama,
anybody whatever, like our fans are having trouble seeing us. Well,

(01:01:52):
why do you think that you won so many heismans
and all of this stuff over Christian McCaffrey and all that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
I don't care. I do not care.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Sorry for are you East Coasters that you have to
live in the rubble that is PAC twelve after dark?

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
So it's not necessarily about the issue at hand. It's about, uh,
you got to walk a mile in my nighttime slippers?

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Yep. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
So I'll say this because and someone did leave a
comment they said, you know, they love the show, but
I agree with you too much. Fair, fair, great minds.
I think you're so off based on this one. They
would never in a million years have you brought up Alabama.
They would never in a million years have done this
to Alabama or Ohio State. And Michigan State fans have
every right to think of themselves as a premier college

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football team despite recent results. Eleven PM is criminal. It's
truly criminal to expect a fan base to be tuned
in for that, and it gives USC a clear advantage.
And whether it's the right thing to do or not,
or whether everyb can get it, or whether the West
Coast has been screwed over for years and years and

(01:03:04):
years is completely irrelevant to the way that Michigan State
fans feel about this in this moment. That's the worst.
It's the absolute worst. And yeah, make a bunch of noise.
They should make as much noise as possible because it again,
there are several teams that would never ever be put
in this situation ever, And you have to you have

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to walk around thinking that you're equal, even if you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
So you think that that they should have made like
Oregon USC at eight o'clock game or Washington USC.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Nah nah, player, I mean well, they've been doing that.
They've been doing that, and it's got to go play
at nine am in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Next this that's bad too. That's bad too.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
So so if you want to complain about eleven pm,
then then then try a nine am kickoff for West
Coast c.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Yeah, I mean most people are awake at oh Man.
There's gonna be some people that do their usual like
so here's the thing that Michigan State fans aren't used
to fifteen straight hours of drinking before kickoff. There's gonna
be some domestic subturbans. There's gonna be some domestic disturbance

(01:04:23):
calls in East Lansing if they lose that game. That's
for sure, Reister or wrong, The fans of America, the
fans of America, should be publicly shaming these loose cannon
AP voters who do not not only watch the games,

(01:04:44):
but aren't even box score watching or voting on head
to heads. And we'll get into some direct naming here
in a second, but I just want to know, do
you think we should be calling out these individuals that
are habitual offenders?

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
You know the answer to this, this is this is reister.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
We made videos every week last week, come last year
calling them out.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
We did so so yes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Oh oh, And just so you guys know, on Thursday,
John Wildner will be on the live stream on Thursday
to talk about this particular subject, Buddy that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
And Heisman voting. Oh yeah, I was.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
I called him up today. I was like, hey, yo, John,
Hey yo, yo, do you want to talk about this?

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
And he was like, yes I do. I was like, good,
good cause I got questions and we gonna get some answers.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
People are mad, and I think that they deserve to
be mad if they feel like the people who are
entrusted with these responsibilities don't take them seriously. But we
got to admit at some point we all watched Willie
Wonk and the Chocolate Factory as a kid, and we
know that some of these people that get golden tickets
don't deserve them and act accordingly.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Yes, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
And so to call two people out specific Number one
Chad Bishop, who I have come to admire as quite
possibly the worst AP voter. He started off this year
with Byu at eight and Utah at eleven, and then
moved them into the late twenties after they both started
one to Zher, where he still has them. Last week,

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he did not put Florida State on his ballot after
they beat Alabama, and he dropped Notre Dame after their
loss to Miami from I believe he had them in
the top ten, he dropped them off his ballot completely. Now,
who did Notre Dame play this last week, George nobody,

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exactly nobody. So should they go from unranked to number
eight in the country off a bye week?

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
Okay, so that had to be a glarios, of.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Course it is, of course it is. But he has
these every single week, and this week he had Ole
Miss at nineteen. They went and got an sac road
win in one of the tougher environments to play in
college football, and this week they are unranked. He does
this every single week. Chad Bishop Georgia tech writer is

(01:07:14):
a is just belongs in the Hall of Fame for
this type of stuff. And but so he's not taking
any heat this week because everyone is directing all of
their animis at a woman named Hailey Sawyer who covers
the usc Trojans. Her ballot is insane. I'm not going
to get into it, but she did.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
She she does not have.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Florida went up after losing to USF, and USF is
not on her ballot. That's one of the main things.
But she made a video. She made a video explaining.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
I'm not gonna she didn't explain anything.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
She didn't explain anything. But I'll say this, and I'm
gonna defend her a little bit. She is a high
school sports reporter who gives off massive English teacher vibes.
I am a high school sports reporter, former high school
English teacher, and a major and I will say this,

(01:08:13):
she seems like an absolutely lovely person. More of her
in this world would probably make the world a better place.
No one who watches college football wants their AP voters
to be well adjusted human beings. They just want them
to know ball. If you could cast a good ballot

(01:08:34):
from death row, they would give that to a death
row inmate. Over Hailey Sawyer, who has been on the
permanent college football beat Georgia, are you ready for this
for three weeks? Three weeks she has written about college
football before she wrote about you AP vote. That's so,

(01:08:54):
that's the question. And she said, there's tons of them,
so it all evens out even if people make mistakes. No,
there's just sixty four or sixty Yes, there are sixty
four of them, and USF might get pounded by Miami
this week, and that's why it's so important for USF
fans to get acknowledged for what they did. And she

(01:09:16):
failed them, and they have every right to be upset.
She seems like a lovely, fantastic person. She messed up,
and voters don't care that you're a good person.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
And just so everybody knows, I am politicking my way
to a Heisman vote and an AP vote. I am
searching under every nook and cranny and figuring out how
to because I mean, I believe that I'm the perfect
type of person to be on the college Football Playoff Committee,

(01:09:48):
to be on the an AP voter, a Heisman voter,
I mean somebody who is dedicated to the sport of
college football, somebody who plays college football, who played in
the NFL, who loves this, who does this, who studies it,
and who is and and everybody has some sort of allegiance. Yes,

(01:10:10):
my allegiance is to Oregon. However, Ralph, comparatively to other people,
how would you? And and answer is, honestly, do you
think that I put my bias toward Oregon in my commentary?

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
See this is what I'm talking about. People want their
voters to be delusional.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
So I should just no, you're good, you're good, you're good,
you're good. But I vote Oregon won every week.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
No, no, no, no, But but you did say like
I I deserve a Heis vote? And uh and there's
what's that Kendrick song? I deserve it all? Yep, you
just ran the list. You just ran the whole list.
That's what college football fans want. They want what you
just did, what you just said. They don't want you
come on here and saying that it doesn't matter. And
it all evens out and there's tons of voters, and

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the sun is out and it's shining and there's butterflies. No,
we should all just slug each other.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Y Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Do I think that your Oregon bias would come out
in your top twenty five voting? Not in a way
that would that would threaten the integrity of the list.
Do I think that it's impossible to shelve that kind
of stuff? Yes, Wyoming is Wyoming is two and oh
right now, And I probably would give them a top

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ten vote just to make the Utah name just so.
I think they're leading college football in passing. When was
the last time that happened, So, uh yeah, I would absolutely.
With it being an entertainment business, I might manipulate things
a little bit just to say, like, oh, we got
a ranked Utah playing a rank Wyoming and laerm me

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this week, just to make it more interesting. But at
the same time, that's what I'm talking about with USF.
USF deserves the recognition of having beaten a Florida team. Now,
I'll tell you right now that Chad Bishop, who had
just brought up he had Florida at number ten last week.
This week, they are not on his ballot, but USF
is on on there at twenty five. That's at least

(01:12:15):
some acknowledgment. And I think that it's important to have
that for the teams who might not have it later
on in the season, because if Miami Jack stops USF,
you might not hear another thing about them until conference
championship time.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
Yes, that makes sense, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
All right? Last two last two reister a wrong reis
are wrong. Brandon Bett spitting on a University of South
Florida Ligneman is a coaching issue. This is something that
Billy Napier should be held liable for.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
One hundred percent wrong. Wrong, that would be like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Dan Lanning should be held at cannab accountable because Trey
Shawn Holding spit on a on the guy in the
Ohio State game on the cornerback. No, you know what
should be accountable the head coach should be accountable.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
For is.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Is that there is a culture where an un lack
of discipline, where there is an un like a ridiculous
penalty like that, because you can't have people on the
field that are that will do that in crucial times.
So and once as an accident, if we continue, if

(01:13:38):
we see another undisciplined, poorly timed penalty on the last
drive to get like all of that stuff, then yes,
that's a Billy nape.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
Be your problem.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
And people will say, well, Nick Saban's players or Kirby
Smart's players would never do that, and you're probably right
because they would know that they would die. And then
and also so Dan Lanning suspended Tray Shawn Holding for
the next It was a it wasn't a public suspension.
But they played per Due next and he was a

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starting wide receiver and he didn't play one single snap.
He was dressed out, did not play one single snap.
He was cheering his teammates on like it was like
and that probably was part of the deal. I need
to see you on this film cheering like you out
on the field. That's your punishment.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
And so if Billy Brenon Betton's apology, Brendan Bett's apology said,
I look forward to proving I have like better character
when I play next week.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Nah, bro got I don't think he expects to get suspended. Nah,
you gotta sit down, You gotta sit down, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
So Florida fan, if any Florida fan is blaming Billy
Napier for Brendan Bett spinning on somebody, they're wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
They should blame okay if he plays this week.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
This is the same fan base that blamed Todd Grantham
from mar Wilson throwing a shoe, which is why they
lost to LSU, why things fell apart under Dan Mullen.
So it's in their nature. Last one reister wrong. A
fan is reister or wrong for giving up their shot
at twenty five thousand dollars to troll their rival. And

(01:15:18):
what I'm talking about here is the University of Missouri fan, yes,
who painted FKU on his chest and instead of kicking
the field goal, goal, kicked the ball at the University
of Kansas sideline and then held up his shirt to
display FKU to the entire Kansas team.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
And so did he get the twenty five thousand dollars back?

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Well, he didn't kick the field goal. It would have
been for making the field goal. So no, I'm saying
if he was, if he was to open and GoFundMe,
I'm sure they would do more than that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
So here, first of all, I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
I love it because he cares about something bigger than himself.
This is amazing, Like how many times in life are
people going to four go personal potential, personal game, to
stand on business, to stand on principles. I love this
with every bone in my body because that means that

(01:16:21):
this man loves his team. He is passionate about his team,
He is in on it. What more could you possibly
want out of your player, Ralph? What more could you
I mean, sorry, out of a fan? He was like,
if you and commit it, that's commitment. I love it,
and that's exactly what we need out of college football fans.

(01:16:43):
Could you imagine a world where where like where like
Manchester United and they offered that to a fan to
kick a goal for twenty five thousand euros and then
they were playing against Man City. Do you think that

(01:17:04):
they would do that or do you think that they
would do exactly what this man did?

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
You're right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
This is why college football is the greatest board in
the world.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
I thought you'd like this because you run a YouTube
channel called The Unafraid Show. People should definitely subscribe to it,
and we'll name him. He's welcome on the show anytime,
Carter Airy, You, sir, are definitely unafraid.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
Yes, you definitely. We love it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
He's one of us. Let's go ahead and get into
the three things that we are looking forward to in
week three. For me, I'll just rattle him off. Is
Laramie Wyoming still does it still have the juice? It
never really had the juice against Utah when when they
were two Mountain West teams going head to head and

(01:17:52):
some of the worst losses Wyoming ever took were to
I remember Joe Glenn getting fired after flipping off the
entire sideline once Utah was up fifty to nothing and
still throwing the ball. So I'm not looking forward to it.
Laramie is a tricky place to play. I don't recommend
anybody's schedule a game there. However, when you have a

(01:18:13):
running quarterback sometimes that neutralizes it. So we'll see. We'll
see if Laramie is still magic. My number two thing,
Arizona State going with the nineteen seventies throwback uniforms this
week against against Texas State. Controversial, take George. Everybody loves Sparky.
There's always this war of people talking about Sparky or

(01:18:34):
the pitchfork. I like the sunburst. That's my favorite logo,
So it's gonna be cool to see them wear that
this week and my last one.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
You are a man alone on an island.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
But I really am.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
Well, okay, so here's the deal. I like Sparky, but
I live in the South. Oh yes, you can't wear
devils anywhere because then not.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
Really, Yeah, it's pretty like pentecostal environment out here, like
they consider that, like, yeah, people can say what they
want about it, but people think what they think and
they believe what they believe. And I am uncomfortable outside
my home around people with if I've got if I
got Sparky on my clothing and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Yet it is yet it is this devil worship in
this devil worship in Arizona, demon liberal out here, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
And so it's worth it to me to preserve people's comfort.
It's worth it to me to preserve people's comfort by
just wearing the pitchfork or the interlocking as or the sumber.
That's worth it for me. Now is it worth it
for them to not fly a giant Confederate flag in
my face? No? But our values are our values. They
shouldn't be dependent upon anybody else's. The last thing I

(01:19:50):
have this week is I have been counting down to
this all year. It is finally here. Cake Clubnick against
Haines King maybe the too easiest quarter to root for
in all of college football. They are gamers, They will
put their body on the line. They actually care. In
the era of nil, you never never have to question

(01:20:11):
whether k club Nick or Haines King are going to
go out there and give it there all. And I
don't expect it to be pretty, but I'm very very
much looking forward to seeing those two quarterbacks go ahead
to head.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
And I am too. I'm nervous about that game for Clemson.
I am totally nervous. For me.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
The things I'm looking forward to is I want to
see who's for real, who's for real in this Notre Dame,
Texas A and M game, because the if Notre Dame
loses college football playoffs, you might as well kiss it goodbye,
kiss it goodbye unless tex A and M runs through
the SEC and Miami runs through the ACC like that,

(01:20:50):
those are gonna be your only chances. And then my
second thing is is I don't like this is exposure weekend. Ooh,
that's a good that's a good theme exposure weekend, because
the next thing is Georgia Tennessee. One of these two
teams ain't about that life. This is a Georgia's favored

(01:21:16):
by six and a half or seven and a half points,
depending on where you're looking right now. And but Georgia's
past game almost excuse me, Georgia's run game last week
wasn't exactly what it needs to be. I think they
threw the ball like them they're forty times or it
just is confusing what has been going on offensively since
Todd Monkin left. And so we're gonna see if Georgia

(01:21:39):
is actually good and if Tennessee and Joy Aguilar are
actually good.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
So we are going to this is a separation type
Saturday in the can I ask.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
You, can I ask you a question just as somebody
who thinks about these salary cap issues and stuff in
college football all the time, and you stay very very
in tune with the way that the NFL salary cap
is ructured and everything like that. Not really things I
spent a bunch of time and energy on or really
understand all that much. But I know people in the
NFL are always very hesitant to pay running backs. Do

(01:22:11):
you think that mindset should maybe not apply to college football? Yes, correct,
Because you're getting.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
In college football is a special It is a like
when you put a special back, like when you put
but it's the same in the NFL. If you put
Saquon Barkley and he's healthy on a on a team,
it's legendary. Same thing in college football. When you put
a special back on a team, it like elevates the
team to a different level. Like if Oregon had Bucky

(01:22:41):
Irving last year, it's a different team and they were
number one in the nation for more than the whole
for half the season.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
Changes everything.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
So so you think some of these running backs should
be getting a pretty big.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
Chunk of what that wanting is no, because of their
injury risk, and they always get like they just go
down so as such a high clip that I think
it's not fiscally responsible to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
I was just interested. It's interesting watching the because Georgia
has the opportunity to be stamped, truly stamped. Like I
think people believe Kirby Smart is the guy now that
Saban has gone. I think they think he's the guy,
but no one would even have to think if he
won a third it wouldn't be a matter of debate

(01:23:36):
or anything like that. And and I worry that without
the without the run game that they had in the
stats of venty years, that maybe that third one might
not happen. All right, what's your last thing of the week?

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
My last thing of the week is I want to
see if clip and you touched on this game. I
want to see can clems and fix it. The first
two weeks on their offositive line have been so oh pitiful, Like,
I just want to be done with this clemsing thing.
Either go back to believing that they are a national
championship team, or just throw them in the trash for

(01:24:09):
the rest of the year and then figure something else out.
Because they are this loss away from being last year's
Florida State. Now, granted they won't go two and ten
because the bottom just doesn't fall out of places with
good culture, but geez luise, it could get real sticky.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
That's very true. This is very true. Any honorable mentions,
any honorable mentions for Oh, for the upcoming week, your
boy Brenda Marion got a quarterback controversy. Possibly maybe, Oh,
he definitely does that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
That is over there and he's talking about over there
at Sacramento State with Brendan up with Jaden Rashata, who
was named the starter. I was told that he only
had one bad day of practice. The entire camp came out,
had a rough week one week two, he got hit,
got taken out of the game, and in a close game,

(01:25:06):
got held out for air quote precautionary reasons. While the
backup came in and went eleven for thirteen and had
a good game. But you held him out for precautionary reasons.
He still was on the sideline with his helmet on
and they didn't take his helmet, so he didn't have
a concussion even though he got checked. Bori concussion and now, yes,

(01:25:28):
you have a problem on your well, you got a
situation on your on your hands, so I listen. It
is rough on first year coaches a lot of times.
So got godspeed, Brenant, godspeed, And for.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Me, I will I said something to you on the
phone this week that I want to repeat because it
actually applies to that sax State quarterback situation and to
everybody who has a running quarterback, whether you University of
Ohio with park and Navarro or Arizona State with Sam Levitt.

Speaker 3 (01:25:57):
Some players are I was going to get that order Granowski.
They are going to.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Yeah, dude, that man might die on the field for
Iowa sins oh man, I who is the best quarterback
in college football? Right now? To you? If you had
to win a game on somebody's arm, Sawyer Robertson.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
Oh on their arm? Yes, yes, yes, I'm giving it
to Sawyer. Okay, what what would he throw?

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Because I was trying to think people who have played
high leverage games and been really good in that so
and he's played two high leverage games already, So yeah,
I'm giving it to Sawyer.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
So you put Sawyer Robertson in that Iowa offense in
the Syhawk rivalry game, how many yards does he throw
for in a Kirk Farrence run offense.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
That's actually pretty good because, as you pointed out this week,
they needed sixty six passing yards in the second half
of that game to average one hundred a game over their.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
Last five and they failed.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
And they did fail. They did fail. This is an
organizational issue. But I do want to say, like, there's
a lot of running quarterbacks out there, and they can
be electric, but so are down power lines. Electricity is
not always a good thing. Sometimes it can be dangerous.
Sometimes you go out there and do too much. So
you do need to be able to release the football,

(01:27:38):
to throw two receivers if you want your offense to
through to be maximized.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
Through two games, Gronowski, he's thrown thirty nine pass attempts.
He's completed twenty one, so he's a little over fifty
fifty three one hundred and twenty seven passing yards.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
I think what is that for attempt two and a
half too, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
Like three and some change per attempt.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
Some optimal shout out to Iowa. Well, I don't know
how they do it. And they stay competitive. They almost
won that game, Yep. They were averaging less than four
yards of play going into the fourth quarter, had a
chance to win it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
And Kirk Kirk Farnce is criminally wrong for this, but
that's a whole other thing that it is.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
He needs to adapt. He's too good of a head
coach to be in this situation.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
But if you put Kirk Farens at Oklahoma State for
that Oregon game, So if you just got the one
week of practice, the one week of practice leading up
to that Oregon game with Oklahoma State's roster, what do
you think the difference would have been If we're assigning
a numerical value to one might Gandy being checked out? Yeah,

(01:29:10):
or just give him the full season from the beginning
of the season and then Oklahoma State goes Yeah, So
Kirk Farren's at head coach because it was a sixty
six point loss. Right, could have been worse?

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
Could it could have scored one hundred fifty two to twelve?

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Right, this is the perfect perfect time for your camera
to die.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
Yes, and you guys, this is the code football apostles.
Peace out, Catch you guys next week.

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