On this episode of College Football Apostles, George Wrighster and Ralph Amsden discuss the most juicy win total college football bets for USC, Miami, Penn State, Oklahoma St, etc.
The guys lead off by discussing which of the opening slate of CFB prime time games in 2024 they're most excited about- George goes with USC/LSU, and Ralph goes with Florida/Miami.
They also get into just how important the week 2 game between Deion Sanders' Colorado Buffaloes squad and Matt Rhule's Nebraska Cornhuskers. Next up, Las Vegas has released their 2024 projected win totals- so which overs do the guys think will hit, and why?
And last, TCU head coach Sonny Dykes says that Alabama football and Louisiana Tech football are playing two different sports when it comes to college football resources, so the guys propose that the smaller conferences form their own league, with their own playoff, while the NCAA institutes European soccer-style promotion and relegation. Big 12, Big Ten, ACC, and SEC conferences are so resourced that a relegation model could make a lot of sense. #collegefootball #cfbnews #collegefootballpodcast #cfbpodcast #CFb betting #coloradobuffaloes #nebraskacornhuskers #sports #alabamacrimsontide #transferportal #nil #USCfootball #miamihurricanes
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the College Football Apostles. Your boys are back in town,
and we got so much to talk about today because
it is less than a hundred days away from college football,
and we got to talk about EA Sports. They released
their football cover. There are some primetime games that we
are looking forward to people, and the Colorado Nebraska game,
(00:23):
Lord have mercy. Everything is on the stakes for that.
And we got to talk about some of these win
totals because some of them are pointing now to us,
and we gotta look at what's going on there. And
have you ever heard of the term calimony? Bye, if
you have it, we're going to tell you what it is.
And Sonny Dyke's the a SEC some of the things
(00:44):
we didn't get to last week as well. And I'm
George Reister, He's Ralph AMSI this is the College Football Apostles.
EA Sports released their cover and the cover athletes. I
(01:07):
should say, now there may be some different variations of
it for the deluxe versions and everything else. How many
people are going to be mad when they see this,
when they see this version of it, when they see
quinn Ewers Travis Hunter, They're like, Colorado sucks. Edwards from
(01:27):
Michigan state, A Judkins, who's an old Miss transfer from
Ohio State back in the background from Georgia, and Jalen
Milroe from Alabama. Then you can see a Notre Dame helmet.
See what's that? A Clemson helmet and Oregon helmet is
clearly visible Old Miss in the distance some flags that
(01:51):
you might recognize. Did they get this right?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I guess. I got really caught up in the commerce
about the cover for like five seconds, and then I
had to remind myself. I have a question for you, George,
and maybe you'll get you to the same place I
am mentally on this. When is the last time your
kids bought a physical copy of a video game?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I can't, Oh, I know what it was. It was.
It's always been for the switch and for the Nintendo Switch.
They've gotten some cover, I mean some physical video games
for the Nintendo Switch, but aside from that, nope, nothing, buddy, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
My kids have like the PS plus or whatever, like
I the only fit video games. So it hit me
I was like, oh, does the cover actually matter? Because
it's this isn't nc A lot has changed since NCAA
(02:55):
fourteen came out, which is the copy that I'm still
playing on PS three like I still have I still
have it. I still every January. Every January, I'll run
like thirty seasons for University of Wyoming or University of
Idaho or something like that. But there's not gonna really
be physical copies. And so, like I do, we need
to have the argument. See it over the cover.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You'll see it every time you go to it. You
see that thumbnail. You see it, Yeah, and you are
reminded that your team stakes, that your team was not
worthy of being on this cover.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I will say two things. If we can get past
the fact that at one point Jared Zabranski of Boise
State was the cover athlete, Like, I think people can
get over it, they can be fine. But I do
think one fan base has the right to be upset.
What Ole miss Why? Because they are a consensus top
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ten team.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
They haven't done anything in It's like like they the
one time that they were supposed to be good, they weren't.
I don't think that they're a big enough brand and
have been consistent enough to where they're gonna drive interest
all year. But you might say, oh, well how about Colorado, Well,
Travis Hunter is going to drive interest all year, and
(04:13):
so is Colorado no matter what.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
So, but my issue isn't with ole Miss being left off, George,
That's not my issue. What is my issue is that
Ohio State has one of the best defenses of all
time heading into this season, at least on paper, and
they picked an ole Miss transfer to be the Ohio
State cover down.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Oh they could have picked Caleb downs too or JT
to them allow, that would have been an option for them.
I would not have, mind.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You in ransom like, there's a bunch of options that
they have, but they went with a dude who so
not only does Omiss not get anybody on the cover,
the running back who left is Ohio State's representative, so
they ca double shot of disrespect. So that's what I
was saying. My only issue is I'm an ole Miss fan.
I'm looking at this and I'm still buying the game,
but I'm mad.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Okay, that makes sense, so we'll see what happens with
the with with the rest of the covers.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
But I have question for you about the price. Okay,
the price, there's a seventy The price is this was
one of those it didn't really matter. I didn't look
at the I didn't look at the the A sticker
on it. When it comes time to purchase it, I'll
just be like, oh damn whatever, Okay, that is what
it owes. There's three price points. One is seventy, one
(05:37):
is the Deluxe Edition is one hundred, and the MVP Bundle,
which I think might include Madden, is one hundred and fifty.
What how much would this game, the base edition of
this game? How much would it have to cost for
you to have like a second thought about buying it?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Anything over one hundred twenty bucks?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Really?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, I mean I've been so in on this that.
But however, though, if the game is like one of
those flawed years of Madden, where it's like a mid
year of Madden, then now you've now lowered what I
will pay for it the next year. So I'm so
priced into it this year because of my anticipation and
(06:26):
my and my dude. It's like Chick fil A being
closed on Sunday, Like you would you.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Pay would you pay double on Sunday? Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I would pay double on Sunday for Chick fil A
to be open.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Okay, would you pay double on Monday? No?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I would not pay double on Monday because Chick fil
A is open on Monday. So that's the point is
that you actually get something like it's it's like so
that's it's like getting something when it's not available. Like
you know that if you order, you know that if
(07:03):
you ask, you know, a doctor to come to your
house at two o'clock in the morning versus two o'clock
in the afternoon, it's gonna cost more money.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
True. True. The way I look at it, though, is
that EA has actually saved me about seven hundred and
fifty dollars by not dropping for the last eleven years.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Oh so, so the way I look at it, actually
charge you seven hundred and fifty bucks for the game
or less, and you feel like you were getting a rebate.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Oh for sure, because that's money I was going to
give you anyway. I stayed playing NCAA fourteen for eleven years.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yep. All right, Next thing up, So the primetime games,
obviously we've known who they're going to be, but just
seeing them in person and knowing that it's less than
one hundred days away, I want to know from this
list from the week one game, Ralph ed, well, there's
some Week zero there's a week zero game on here
(08:04):
that I think is intriguing. Two. But from this list
of games, which one is, like, what's most sticking out
to you? Because you got for those audio listeners. We
have North Dakota State at Colorado, which is a week
zero game, and then for Week one you're gonna have
oh wait, actually no, no, no, excuse, excuse me, that is
(08:27):
a week one game. And then you have but it's
just on Thursday. You have the Saturday game Clemson Georgia,
Miami and at Florida, Notre Dame at Texas A and
m USC versus LSU, and Boston College at Florida State.
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If you could only watch one of those games, which
one are you watching?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Ooh, that's a good way to phrase that question. I
think I think Miami at Florida is the one that
interests me the most because billion napiers on what the
thinnest of thin ice? Yes, Mario Cristobal is on ice. Yes,
(09:16):
we don't know. We cannot Yeah, we cannot ascertain the
thickness of the ice that Mario cristaball is walking on
right now. But both of these fan bases are very
eager to get back. Both of them have undergone a
lot of change in the off season. Both of them,
(09:38):
I feel like have recruited at a high level, Miami
maybe higher arguably than Florida. I think this game just
matters a lot a lot to a lot of people.
Clemson versus Georgia. They they've opened the season before, didn't
necessarily impact the outcome of you know, ugly ugly game
like three nothing fourth quarter type stuff, didn't necessarily imp
(10:00):
pack people's mindsets going forward. Notre Dame Texas A and
M is interesting, but I don't think there's an onus
on A and M to win the most important game here.
To me seems like Miami at Florida North Dakota State Colorado.
I've learned my lesson from the NDSU Arizona game, which.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I count them boys out. Buddy, do not know, but.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
You said Arizona's winning guaranteed. I said, Arizona never should
have scheduled the game. Arizona did win that game. I
feel like Colorado is probably in the same place they
should win. Yes, yeah, it would schedule these boys though, yes, are.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
The most important. So I actually would put Miami at
Florida as the second most important game. I would actually
put usc LSU as the most important game because this
is going to send these two teams in one of
(11:00):
two directions. Both of their defenses were horrendous last year, horrendous,
and they both have new quarterbacks. LSU is going to
be well. USC is going to be trotting out Miller
Moss as their quarterback. We are going to I guess
(11:25):
assume that LSU is going to be Garrett Neussmeyer, that
he's going to be there. So you have two inexperienced
guys at quarterback, two defenses that were trash. Neither one
of them was able to beef up their defensive line
like they wanted to in the offseason, and so where
do so If LSU wins this game, Brian Kelly is
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feeling good about itself. He's like, Okay, now our season
has an opportunity. If they lose this game, rouphe it
is going to be and they give up a lot
of is going to be a disaster. And USC fans
who don't show up to the spring game, they are
going to be discouraged if they lose this game.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Ralph, I agree, I agree. I have a question for you, Okay,
what do you think the over under is? Because it's
already set five months out? What do you think the
over under is for LSU USC because they're going to
go off the reputation of two teams that don't play defense.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Sixty eight that you hit it, it's sixty seven and
a half? What five months out? Yes, the Clemson Georgia
total is absurdly high. It's forty eight and a half
(12:54):
right now, forty eight forty and a half. Huh yeah,
forty eight and a.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Half fur eight and a half. That's twenty four points apiece.
That's not that doesn't feel high to me.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Didn't but yeah, but didn't. Wasn't this a nine to
three game just two years ago? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
But the but the difference is that Carson Beck is there,
Clemson is not what Clemson was. Oh my god. And
George and of that forty eight I'm just looking right now,
George is favored by thirteen points.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
So that's hilarious to me.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah. So so I think that that the that that
LSU USC game that is the one because peep this, Ralph,
peep this. With LSU schedule right and USC schedule, So
after that SC game, LSU gets Nickel State. When then
(13:54):
they they're at South Carolina U.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
C l A.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And you can't lose to USC and U c l
A or or either one of them, really, but especially
not U c l A. They they'll beat South Alabama,
then they got Ole Miss, Arkansas, Texasa and m Alabama, Florida,
Vanderbilt and Oklahoma. So if they don't win that USC game, Bro,
they could be staring at four losses on on the year,
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and that's not gonna go on the well with their
with their fan base.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
But again, but I guess you're right, it wouldn't go
over well. But the reason I disagree with it being
the most important game is because there is no inherent
risk for Brian Kelly to lose his job this year,
and there's no inherent risk for Lincoln Riley. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Oh, I do think that they're Oh, I think that
on Lincoln Riley side, I think that they would have
to figure out the buyout money. But I do but
I do think that people would would want him gone
though if they if if USC, because they go lsu
U toss state at Michigan and if they start out
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one and two and then play Wisconsin and that's a
toss up game at Minnesota's a toss up Penn State
like they could be what's that one, two, three, four, five, six.
They could be three and three after six games and
still got Maryland, Rutgers, Washington, Nebraska, U s LA, and
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Notre Dame left. They could be staring at at a
bunch of losses. But but but we're gonna talk about
them in a minute when we get to the win totals.
Because I do love this slater of games. I love
that it started like this, and just if we can
get the SEC to start playing nine conference games, everything
will be better. That means that we won't have any
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weeks throughout the entire year where we have, you know,
a mid slater of games. Please please, I'm begging you,
at CC begging you and ACC two, I'm begging you
please non conference games. All right now on to the win.
Oh actually sorry, excuse me. Onto the This is a
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week two game and we talked about this on on
a Fraid show, so you guys can go watch the
video everything. So the Colorado Nebraska game Ralph that is
week two. That game feels like for Colorado that that's
their LSU USC game, that that's the game that is
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going to send the season either left or right, because
Nebraska's trying to rekindle some greatness. Actually they're not even
trying to rekindle greatness. They're trying to rekindle Bowl game eligibility.
First seven consecutive losing seasons, you got to go all
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the way back to nineteen fifty seven, where the since
they have since you can find if you add up
for don't count these last seven and then to find
seven losing seasons, you get intertake, you get back to
nineteen fifty seven. So, Ralph, this team, this is a
must win for them, must win for Nebraska and for
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Colorado if they would have any hopes of anything over
six wins. This is a must win.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I agree. This is I mean, I feel like you're
even under selling it. This is like the super Bowl
for both teams. It's appointment view there. I mean, there's
a few games on Colorado schedule that like are appointment viewing. Yeah.
I can't, I can't. I can't believe that that. I
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have had a countdown clock since since one week before
Colorado Colorado State in twenty twenty three to Colorado Colorado
State twenty twenty four, like from a week before that game,
even kicked off. I was like, I can't wait for
this game and next year's game. But the Nebraska won
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because first of all, Colorado smoked in Nebraska last year.
It was their biggest win in that rivalry in fourteen years,
which I think was the last time that they had
been playing yearly games, and then they both left the
Big Twelve. Nebraska wants this game so bad, like more
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than any game on their schedule. This is the one
that they care about because the rivalries back, They're back
to playing each other, even if they're not in the
same conference. They hate each other. And now they add
the John Ellen to the mixed pressure of Nebraska, Nebraska
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getting the number one quarterback recruit, Colorado getting the number
one offensive line recruit. There's so much pressure on Dion
and Matt Rules, and it's going to be in Lincoln,
so like Colorado fans aren't gonna be able to get
into this game.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Oh, this is a proof of concept game. This is
a proof of concept game. And I am like, Nebraska
and Matt Rule have to prove that they're moving in
the right direction, and Dion is trying to prove his
proof of concept that that not high school recruiting at
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at a high level and that I can keep swapping
players out every year and that this will work. Because
he's got to prove, I mean, if you're d On, really,
you got to prove that there's something worth kids signing
up for after Shadur and Shiloh Lee, that there is
magic still there well in Travis Hunter two when he
leaves after this year, that there is magic there, that
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this is a special place that you need to sign
up for because you can to have this here because
if not, Seaton will be in the transfer portal and
at the University of Oregon next year, and and anybody
else that is any good on that football team. But
let's look at that college Colorado for a second. We
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already talked about their North Dakota State Week one game.
Then they're at College at Nebraska at Colorado State Ralph.
If they don't start out three and oh, if they
start out two and one, okay, But then they go Baylor, UCF,
Kansas State, Arizona, Sincy, Texas Tech, Utah, Kansas, and Oklahoma State.
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And I want to bring this up because handicapping these
games for people is going to be tough. And this
is why you need to be here on the Ona
Fraid Show on College Football Apostles because we know these teams.
We know these Pac twelve teams that are going over
the Pac twelve, teams that are deep in there, that
are gonna that are gonna be in the Big twelve,
Big Ten as well. We know what's going on with
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them people gay and there are few people that have
covered these teams and know them in depth like we
know them. So this is why you need to be
here and share it with a friend. So go ahead,
smash that like button, tell everybody about it, share the feed,
and leave a comment as well. So I'm looking at
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this Colorado schedule, Ralph, and if they don't win this
Nebraska game, this sends them in a totally different direction
for projection because I think that they believe that they
can win the Big Twelve, which I don't think they can.
But if they don't start out three and zero, if
they can't beat Nebraska, there's no way they're gonna win
(21:48):
the Big twelve. Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, I mean, I don't put that much emphasis on
it because last year they smashed Nebraska in the second
game of the season and then they went one in
eight in car conference, So I don't think there's a course.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
It's also like the strongest that it's maybe ever been.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
But I'm saying that there's no to me, there's there's
no correlation. There's no correlation. Like I would be more
worried about the pressure that would increase internally because there's
a lot of people that have had to Any fan
base does this, any and every fan base does this
when your coach doesn't says some wild stuff. You gotta
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you gotta suit up, you gotta put on the armor,
you gotta go out on the internet streets and you
gotta go to battle. And Colorado fans are exhausted right
now because he has these boys.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
They're working, they're working on full max. They're working.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And so yeah, you, I mean you, you are. You
already got your Internet soldiers stressed out. If you go
out there, you get beat by Nebraska, it's gonna be
tough sledding like you're it's gonna slow down a lot
of that support. You need that energy going into the
Colorado State game. It West got you last year. So
I don't know, I just I think it's a very
important game, just for how how your own fan base
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feels about you, because how the world feels about you
doesn't matter. We've realized that ninety nine percent of the
college football ecosphere is looking at Deon Sanders after this
last offseason and and Shador's antics and dropping a you know,
dropping a song and talking about players that didn't used
to be on the team and you know, flexing the
watch and talking about cars and all that stuff. And
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they're looking at They're looking at Dion saying he's gonna
be a top five pick, Dion jumping in the mix
and going after kids that are on other teams. They're
looking at him and being like, you're ridiculous, Like this
is all completely ridiculous. How come Colorado fans can't see it?
Well because of their fans and it's their job to
not see it, but they they have been at war
defending this man. And if they lose the ne Bratha
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like that, it's just gonna get that much harder. So
that's why I think this game is so just for
the internal stuff. And Nebraska's got to be exhausted. Man.
They show up every single year ten toes down, repping
the Big Red, only to go only just to get
let down just to go three and six in the
Big Ten, Like that's become dude. You know, Nebraska went
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thirty four straight years spending at least part of the
season in the top ten. Thirty four straight years from
now Raked.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yes, Now they're like, oh man, it would be nice
to see a number in front of our name.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But to see Dean get you two years in a
row after you're paying an average of ten million a
year to Matt.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Rule, Oh man, I can't relate. I don't even know
what that's like to have a team that's not Raked.
That sucks, all.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Right, So.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Now we want to look at what Okay, all right,
so now it is win total time. People win total time.
So they're there are some ones that and we'll get
more and more into the mass this season, I mean
as we get closer and closer to the season. But
there are a couple that we pointed out that we
(25:08):
wanted to examine. And there was one from the SEC,
I mean, well from the ACC that we're looking at,
and that is the and that's the Miami Hurricanes. The
Miami Hurricanes Ralph. They're over under for wins is nine
(25:30):
and a half and if Mario Christobaul wins nine and
a half games. If he wins nine games, the fan
base is going to be happy. If they don't win
nine games, they are going to be like pissed off.
If he wins nine or more games, they're gonna be
(25:51):
a static. If he does not, it is going to
be a major problem, especially with his quarterback situation where
he's got cam Ward who came from Washington State throwing
for a trillion yards. And if he can't then translate
because he has not put out good quarterback play. He's
(26:11):
not his quarterbacks up. The kid that was there last,
Tyler Van Yes, Tyler Van Dyke have TVD and even
Justin Herbert didn't put up great stats in college. So
he hasn't had great quarterbacks that play. And if this
happens to cam Ward two, this is a crystal ball
(26:34):
problem and not a player problem. Can we establish that.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, I mean he I mean very much of the
best when really like in MMA, in the UFC, there
are some of the world's best wrestlers, right, best wrestlers
on Earth, And if they get you down on the ground,
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it's probably over. They might not choke you out like
a jiu jitsu specialist. They might not clean your clock
like a boxer, but if they get you on the
ground but keep you there for five straight rounds and
they'll get to win. It's not sexy and it's not fun,
and it's not a knockout and it's not a chokeout.
And that feels very much like if you've rooted for
any Mario Cristobal coach teams, that feels very much like
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what his goal has been. It's been to physically dominate
you for sixty minutes. And he doesn't care if it
looks flashy or sexy or anything like that. But the
problem with taking a game to the sixtieth minute is
you put yourself at risk.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yes, that's it. And I didn't look at this until
after he left Oregon, Ralph. I was like, hold up,
and when landing, when we started knocking the doors off
of people again in games that you should I was like,
this is weird. And I was looking back, I can't
remember very many blowouts, even in games that you should
(28:01):
be blowing people out, Like games are closer than they
should be, and some of those games they lost simply
because a penalty goes your way. Somebody makes a heroic
catch is like something weird happens and now you're in
a dogfight and you're not able to overcome that particular thing.
So I think that that's a problem. But let's look
(28:22):
at this at this nine and a half games, Ralph,
are you projecting them over under that nine and a half?
So they got Florida, Florida A and M Ball State,
South Florida, Virginia Tech, Cal Louisville, Florida State, Duke, Georgia Tech,
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Wake Forest, and Syracuse. They do not have like I
don't think that they're gonna I think Florida State, maybe
Louisville are the only teams on their schedule that are
going to be ranked at any point in time in
this season. Probably m maybe, yeah, maybe Duke maybe at
(29:15):
some point in time, but probably not at the end
of the season. So with only two teams with winning
records on your I mean sorry with uh that are
even possible to be ranked at any point in time
in the season, including Florida State, I don't think that
you can that like anything under that nine and a half.
(29:39):
So anything under ten games would have to feel like
a failure because they can accept the Florida State loss.
But but what other game on their schedule can you
really accept the loss in with how much they've put
into recruiting financially and they're where their classes have been ranked.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Even ten and two with Florida State and Florida being
your losses feels.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Gross because because because now the only team you're better
than in Florida is South Florida in Florida A and
M right and maybe you see but they so that
that feels gross.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Ten wins with a loss to a clearly inferior team
when it comes to recruiting rankings feels gross. This is
really like eleven and one or else kind of it.
Kind of that way, prof if they win nine games
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back out of the portal.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yep, they got Kim Warder out the portal, so it's gonna.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Be I mean, it's a to me, it's eleven or bust.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, that that makes a lot of sense, Like you
gotta damn okay, So I am going to take the
under on this nine and a half. I think that
they're gonna be at nine. I think that they're gonna
find a way to to to lose a couple of
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games they're for Su're gonna lose a Florida State game,
and they'll find a way to lose two other games,
and so yeah, I'm gonna put them at nine and
three in the regular season. Now, mind you if they
Bowl game. I'm just talking about the regular season. So,
so are you taking the over or the under on Miami?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I would I would take the over if I was
gonna take this one. If I would, I would take
the over. It's a it's a scary one. I want
to stay away from it. I don't can set are
betting on a Mario Cristobal coach team to exceed expectations
to be a smart bet because name one name one
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that ever did it. Maybe his first year at Oregon, yep,
maybe so. But if I had to bet it, I
would take the over because I think it is smarter
than assuming that they're going to lose to a duke
without Riley Leonard or something like that. But if you're
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just going off of.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
My leak, just transferred from A to Texas. So we'll
say now on to we We picked out a couple
of Big Ten teams too, and one of them that
I am high on this year, and I am and
it's all because Number one Penn State's defense has been incredible.
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I just don't know how Drew Aller can't get better,
Like he has to get better, Like that had to
be when James Franklin changed their offensive coordinator. That had
to be the sole focus of the entire offense is
getting Drew Aller better. Like that had to be it
because that's the difference between them beating Ohio State last
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year and not. That's the difference is Drew all are
playing good football. So I'm looking at their schedule West
Virginia Bowling. They they're over under his tent. West Virginia Bowling, Green,
Kent State, Illinois, UCLA, USC Wisconsin, Ohio State, Washington, Perdue, Minnesota,
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and Maryland. The only spot I can find a loss
is possibly to Ohio State. And but if Drew Aller
does not play well, they're gonna lose another game as well.
They're gonna go ten and two if Drew Aller is
not playing good football. If he's playing good football, they
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have a chance at twelve and zero.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Roh, Yeah, they do have a chance. You know what
what's weird is Penn State fans will tell you that
Drew Aller actually wasn't that bad because His twenty five
touchdown passes last year is third all time in a
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single season for them. That his completions was sixth all
time in a single seam.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
And for that, well, the problem is that you don't
win games on the statue.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
We watched the games percentage all time and yes, yes,
point taken, but also your totals suck historically because you
adapted late. Now you got to get on the same
page as everybody else does. Just because he's elevated in
school history doesn't mean that that's going to be what
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it takes to actually win. Look at what Justin Fields
or CJ. Stroud did at Ohio State, Like that is
what it takes to win at that level, and they
it's not like either one of them as a national championship,
But that's what it takes to be. In the conversation,
that's what it takes to beat you at Penn State
is a competent passing attack. You have to be able
to have that as well, and it can't be the
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weather and it can't be your history. So Drew Aller, yes,
statistically is one of the best Penn State quarterbacks ever
already at age twenty. But hey, but that but sometimes
that them's the breaks. Sometimes your franchise history dictates that
you and I talked the other day on the phone
about the fact that they say that they're like the
Chicago Bears. I'm saying that, maybe you don't. I'm saying
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they're like the Denver Broncos, right, Like the Denver Broncos
have a storied history. But the truth of the matter
is John Elway's most touchdowns he ever threw in the
season was twenty seven, but he didn't he did what
it took in certain moments. But even his like super
played in five Super Bowls and he has like three
touchdown passes six interceptions. But yet people remember John Elway
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is one of the best ever because he got it
done when it mattered most and he did it at
the end. So you don't need to be the biggest
stat stuffer in the world at Penn State. You just
got to be able to win games. And like you said,
eyeball test fourth quarter, Drew Aller's got to be that dude,
even if going into the fourth quarter he's only got
one hundred and ten years passing, You would rather that
as a prince statement.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Like Mischigan just did it Mischian just did it will
be fine, all right? All right? The next team from
the Big Ten is US. The next team from the
Big Ten that we were going to talk about is
USC and USC ralph they're over under seven and a half.
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So Lincoln Riley this is his third season. If you
told USC fans that in his third season the over
when he was first hired, that in his third season
the over under for his win total for their third
season would be seven and a half, would they have
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believed you? And how would they have reacted if they
would have said that we would give Lincoln Riley like
one hundred and ten million dollars and in his third
year his over under would be projected at seven and
a half.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
That's a crazy way to look at that. I don't
think it would feel great. I don't think it would
feel great. That's a wild way to look at it. Like,
would you take this if this is what your projection
would be three years in? Do they also get the
information that they only won seven games last year coming
off a high Yes, because I'd imagine if that would
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be hard to process. I think there's probably a lot
of USC fans that are just smashing the over and
thinking they're being disrespected. To be honest, I they Okay,
USC is still in a position where they can just
blame all this on Alex Grinch.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
M okay, so so, so I am taking the I
think that they will win in between six and nine games, okay,
and it all is going to depend on Miller mas
saying that defense. But I'm gonna take the over. I'm
gonna put them at eight wins. So and are you
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taking the over under of that seven and a half?
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I there is another one. I wouldn't touch with a
ten foot pole, But I do think if you made
me decide, talent alone makes me want to take the over.
I think the most fascinating thing about this season is
you have a quarterback that has been in Lincoln Riley's system,
Like this is where you find out if Lincoln Riley
can develop. Right. You have a quarterback that Lincoln Riley
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didn't recruit, that has been in his system for two years,
looked good in one bowl game, and then USC made
a decision based off of how he looked in that
bowl game, not off of what they think they knew
they had at the time, which means we got to
go back to the fact that coaches have literally no
idea what a quarterback can do until they get thrown
out there. They have no idea, they never have, they
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never have, and so they hope. So what we know
right now is that Lincoln Riley didn't understand what Miller
Moss was. He feels like he does now and they're
going with him. Now we get to find out can
you develop under Lincoln Riley? And I'm fascinated by that.
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But on talent alone, speed alone, I want to say
eight wins should be the basement. I would I would.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Say over Okay, so ls LSU or is that a
winner loss?
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I think that that's probably a loss.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Okay, they'll beat Utah State at Michigan, win or loss.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
I think they'll win that game.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Okay, Wisconsin, I think they'll win that game. Minnesota win
at Minnesota when October fifth, I think they win. Okay,
Penn State, I think that's a loss. Okay, at Maryland.
When Rutgers win at Washington, mmm mmm. At Washington with
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jdfish that retool roster, their win total is about the same.
Are you going with that one as a winner?
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Loss? I think that they will lose to Washington.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Okay, Nebraska when at u C l A Notre Dame
when Notre Dame loss loss. Okay, so you got them
at eight and four then yes, okay, yeah, we're we're
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we're bad about the same. I do believe that they're
gonna lose to Michigan though, so.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
That means just me and Michigan graduated everybody.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Yeah, but hey, listen, sometimes you are you are so
deep that it doesn't matter. And they developed, all right,
So that's usc. Now onto our SEC teams. Now, this
one is very interesting because we've heard Josh Pate bang
on this team, bro, and that is Florida. Oh, they
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have the toughest schedule ever known to man in the
history of football. And they're over under for wins. Ralph
is five when they hired Billy Napier. If you had
told them that when it's third season that they're over
under for wins will be five, what they have believed,
you probably not.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah, that's tough. Five is so low.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, look at this schedule. Okay, So I'm gonna take
the over just because five is so incredibly low. I
just refuse to believe that they're gonna win five games.
Miami winner win or loss, I think they win. Okay,
I think they shock people. Yep, I agree to. They
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are gonna beat Samford. Then how about Texas A and M.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Where is that?
Speaker 1 (42:59):
And Gainesville?
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I think they can win.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
I do too. At Mississippi State.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Is this young team, young Mississippi State team. I think
they get that as well.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yep, I do too. Then you got UCF.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
At home, yep, win October fifth, I think they win.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Oh, I think that's gonna be a tough one, but
I'll give them a win there. At Tennessee I got
that as a loss.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah too.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Kentucky loss yep. Georgia in Texas, both of those are losses.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yeah, l s U loss, Oh, miss loss, Florida State loss.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
How many wins do we get to Ralph.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Well, I think I think five? Four?
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, four to five wins, buddy.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Either way, I mean it's five flat, It's not like
five and a half. So yeah, yeah, I don't think
I'm betting the over on that one.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah, I'm taking that wonder.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Florida's schedule reminds me of the back half of that
Pittsburgh Steelers schedule.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
God, bro, this is brutal. Lord have mercy. So yeah,
to make it a long story short, Billy Billy Napier
is in trouble if he bring if he breaks seven
wins out of this, he might get an extension, even
though the fans are gonna be like, we only won
seven games, Bro, you should be freaking happy if you
win seven games out of this, all right. The last
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team from the SEC that we wanted to talk about Oklahoma,
Ralph oak Lahoma. They are going into the SEC win
total seven and a half. People do not believe in them,
and I'm like, I don't understand why people do not
believe in them. Ralph, like they they are looking at
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this team and they're like, yeah, nah nah. I know
that they have a young quarterback, but even with having
a young quarterback, it would just be wild to me
for them to not be able to put together seven
and a half wins. So that's exactly. And if Jackson
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Arnold is good, like Oklahoma fans think that they like
that he is so good that they're fine with getting
rid of Dylan Gabriel, who's a good quarterback. They got
Temple and Houston and Tulane. They should win all three
of those first games, So then they got are you
taking it over under in the seven and a half,
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Ralph over Yes, I am too. They got Tennessee after that,
then they're at Auburn. Think that the that the that
they'll go four and one to start the season. Then
they got Texas lost, they can beat South Carolina. The
Old miss game could be tough. They're gonna beat Maine.
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Then they got Missouri and Alabama, which both games they
can win. This could be they could be staring at
nine wins, right in the face and on the cusp
of making the college football Playoffs, the twelve team playoffs.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
There's only one time since nineteen ninety nine, one time
where they won less than eight games.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
They are on a SEC now, Ralph, they're out of
that sorry Big twelve, and their fans are gonna be like, oh,
we're they're out of here.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Twenty four seasons in a row, they at least at
some point been in the top ten. They're they're elite,
They're a college football blue blood. Seven and a half
is a crazy insult. They can hang in the SEC.
I have no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Yeah I do, I do too. All Right, those are
the win totals, and we're gonna get into more as
the season goes on. But there's a term that we
need to tell you about. This term is called calimony.
Now you've heard of alimony in divorces, but calimony. And
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the University of California, Los Angeles, so UCLA when they
left to go to the Big Ten, they left, and
cal got left in a lurch. And the UC Board
of Regions because they're still because they're in the same
university system, like so much so that Cal, Ucla, UC Davis,
all the UC's they all even they are all their
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colors are blue and yellow on some level, blue and yellow,
blue and gold, like they're all the same colors, all
part of the same university system. And they said that
they were not going to allow. Well, Gavin Newsom, the governor,
got involved in it and it became political and now
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UCLA has to pay col ten million dollars a year
for the next six years in calimony because UCLA is
going to the Big ten. Cal did not get an invite.
They ended up in the SEC on a reduced share,
and they were like and then California, the state of California,
the regents was like, ah, we need to subsidize some
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of Cow's money. So they're going to be subsidizing cow
ten million dollars a year from a team ralph a
school that has an athletic department budget deficit. They already
are having financial problems, and you're going to force an
extra ten million on them. How does this make any sense?
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This has got to be one of the most hair
brained things that we've had anybody do.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
This doesn't sound that different than any like any divorce.
Like That's how I love the term calimony is that
we we get to complain about whether or not it
was fair, because the intent of this was to give
U c L a permission to do what they did,
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essentially retroactively. Because plotting with your rival to leave the conference,
which ultimately helped break the conference, you know, is kind
of like sneaking out your spouse. So you gotta you
gotta pay a little bit for the for the sin
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
But I've grown accustomed to a certain lifestyle. That's what
That's what this is.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Yes, but the but the funniest part about it is
that when they initially agreed to this, it was that
the amount will be somewhere between two and ten million. Uh,
that's such a huge window. I don't think anybody ever
thought that it would be the max?
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Why would you, especially now a window that big. See.
That was the problem is that they were like, we'll
we'll get them with the between two and ten and
then and then, and that's never gonna be the two.
It was never gonna be the two.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
I just love if U c l A U c
l A is gonna be mad at Cal for a
long time. Col fans are very entertained by this. It's
very very funny to them. Uh, it's gonna be obviously
a big hell.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Well, the biggest issue is gonna be it's.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Gonna be like UCLA shouldn't have even moved.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Because they're gonna get the same amount of money. Well
sort of, But then are they gonna try to retroactively
go back to court and get more money when the
ACC breaks up? That's gonna be the question out or
you see, like trying to get some is cal gonna
go try when the acc breaks up? Are they gonna
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then go back and be like, listen, we need a
modification of this calimony.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
I hope so like not even I'm not I'm not
saying I hope it happens or I hope it works
in their favor. I'm just saying it would be very
funny for them to to say, like, hey, we need
a we need a little bit of extra help this month,
on top of the on top of the eight hunder
k check you cut us every month?
Speaker 1 (51:38):
Yes, all right? And now and now speaking of that,
so Sonny Dykes, head coach over at TCU, who had
been at Cal, he spoke up and decided to say
that there are two different college footballs. There's the college
football that the Alabama's, the Oregons, the Georgia's and you know,
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Clemson playing, and then there is the college football that
individual one that the Louisiana Techs, the you know, the
even the Vanderbilts, and even though that they're getting big
time money and Nevadas and stuff like that, that they're
playing two different versions of college football, that there is
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no competition, and that they basically should be split up
into two divisions. I don't like that, Ralph. I don't
like that because I have been a long believer that
everybody should negotiate their TV rights together. Right. It will
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create more more parody and more NFL like results. And
I know that the individual schools Oregon doesn't want that.
Alabama does not want that, Georgia does not want that.
Ohio State does not want that. Greg Sanki does not
want that. The commission to Big ten, they do not
want that because any level of parody or where the
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money is distributed, so now everybody's kind of even though
the bigger brands are still going to produce more money,
any level of parody and that that can cause other
people to rise up. Like look at the NFL. Yes,
the Chiefs are really good right now. Like the Patriots
were dominant for a while for twenty years. There comes
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a point now where after that twenty years, the Patriots
sink and when Patrick Mahomes leaves, the damn Chiefs are
gonna stink for a while. And the Alabama's dan like
all those schools, they don't want the stink for a while.
They don't want other people to be able to come up.
Like where the Patriots were way up here, Chiefs were,
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you know, down now it's completely flipped. They don't want that.
They do not want that, And Sunny Dykes' is right,
But I do think for the long term help the
college football, that you do need to have more parody
and that I'm hoping that the access with the twelve
and fourteen team playoffs that like we're seeing more five
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stars go to different places and all of that, that
we're seeing more that we're seeing less depth on rosters,
like where you don't have you know, ten NFL guys
and then ten more than ten, more than ten more
in every single class. That way, now you got ten
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and six and five and ten like on your classes
and they're more spread out. So that means that every
single week, that means these lines are gonna get tighter
and tighter like I wanted to where there's never lines
over like twenty points. If the line stayed somewhere in
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between one and thirteen, bro, that is great forege football
if every single week, that's why people love the NFL
so much, because everybody can win.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
Yes, I love the idea of breaking it up. I
love the idea. I think that a system of college
football that is closer to Premier League or European soccer
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would be fascinating. Where, yes, to where you.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
Have the I will I throw my plan out the window,
and I will I will, I will sign up for relegation.
Speaker 2 (55:41):
Because if you have if you have fcs G five
or G six or whatever it is now, and the
P four and the bottom team in every conference or
the bottom two teams in every conference is paired up
with a sister G six conference and you have the
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ability to like one year flip the bottom and the top,
or two year block flip the bottom and the top.
I think it would be fascinating. Like, obviously people are
not going to give want to give up their contractual
monetary rights. I think it should apply to football only,
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and I think you should continue to get paid, Like
if you start out the contract getting SEC money, but
you have to drop out of the SEC because you're
not doing anything Vanderbilt, and then you end up winning
at the G six level and you bounce back up
lose money, so you're not risking your money. I think
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people will agree, and is what the top teams and
what the networks want anyway. It's why they've made it
so that the one G five G six presentative is
getting screwed over if they make a college football playoff appearance.
So let's just get rid of them altogether. Don't let
it affect basketball because people love the cinderellas in basketball,
but honestly, in football, I think Sunny Dikes is right.
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I think they're the haves and the have nots. Rooting
for upsets is fun. You could still schedule these out
of conference or these non league games as part of
your schedule, but I think putting a little bit of
extra risk on it is something that you should do.
I'm gonna be honest, this is gonna sound really nerdy,
but this is the way that I play NCAA fourteen
whoever could because going into every new season in franchise mode,
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you have the ability to reorganize conferences, and that's what
I do. I will take the worst team in the SEC,
and I will put them in the American Conference, and
I'll take the team that won the American Conference and
I'll put them in the SEC. I do it every
single year. It's a lot of fun, and so I
think Sunny Dikes is right, and I think there's something
that can be done about it that is win, win
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win for everybody involved.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
Ralph, I think you're onto something, Buddy, think you are
onto something. I would absolutely sign up for that, buddy,
Sign me up, Sign me the hell up, because that
is a genius ass idea. I'm in re on relegation,
so every everything I said prior. I mean, I still
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love my idea, but that one's even great.
Speaker 2 (58:27):
And you imagine how funny, how funny it is though
that like, if that system was in place, Colorado would
be like in the Mountain West right now.
Speaker 1 (58:39):
Oh man, hey, yeah, you never know, but you guys,
that is college football. Apostles on The Unafraid Show. I'm
George Reister, He's Ralph Ampton. Peace out. Catch you guys
next week The Pen to expre
It's the College Football Apostles. Your boys are back in town,
and we got so much to talk about today because
it is less than a hundred days away from college football,
and we got to talk about EA Sports. They released
their football cover. There are some primetime games that we
are looking forward to people, and the Colorado Nebraska game,
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Lord have mercy. Everything is on the stakes for that.
And we got to talk about some of these win
totals because some of them are pointing now to us,
and we gotta look at what's going on there. And
have you ever heard of the term calimony? Bye, if
you have it, we're going to tell you what it is.
And Sonny Dyke's the a SEC some of the things
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we didn't get to last week as well. And I'm
George Reister, He's Ralph AMSI this is the College Football Apostles.
EA Sports released their cover and the cover athletes. I
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should say, now there may be some different variations of
it for the deluxe versions and everything else. How many
people are going to be mad when they see this,
when they see this version of it, when they see
quinn Ewers Travis Hunter, They're like, Colorado sucks. Edwards from
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Michigan state, A Judkins, who's an old Miss transfer from
Ohio State back in the background from Georgia, and Jalen
Milroe from Alabama. Then you can see a Notre Dame helmet.
See what's that? A Clemson helmet and Oregon helmet is
clearly visible Old Miss in the distance some flags that
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you might recognize. Did they get this right?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I guess. I got really caught up in the commerce
about the cover for like five seconds, and then I
had to remind myself. I have a question for you, George,
and maybe you'll get you to the same place I
am mentally on this. When is the last time your
kids bought a physical copy of a video game?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I can't, Oh, I know what it was. It was.
It's always been for the switch and for the Nintendo Switch.
They've gotten some cover, I mean some physical video games
for the Nintendo Switch, but aside from that, nope, nothing, buddy, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
My kids have like the PS plus or whatever, like
I the only fit video games. So it hit me
I was like, oh, does the cover actually matter? Because
it's this isn't nc A lot has changed since NCAA
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fourteen came out, which is the copy that I'm still
playing on PS three like I still have I still
have it. I still every January. Every January, I'll run
like thirty seasons for University of Wyoming or University of
Idaho or something like that. But there's not gonna really
be physical copies. And so, like I do, we need
to have the argument. See it over the cover.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You'll see it every time you go to it. You
see that thumbnail. You see it, Yeah, and you are
reminded that your team stakes, that your team was not
worthy of being on this cover.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I will say two things. If we can get past
the fact that at one point Jared Zabranski of Boise
State was the cover athlete, Like, I think people can
get over it, they can be fine. But I do
think one fan base has the right to be upset.
What Ole miss Why? Because they are a consensus top
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ten team.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
They haven't done anything in It's like like they the
one time that they were supposed to be good, they weren't.
I don't think that they're a big enough brand and
have been consistent enough to where they're gonna drive interest
all year. But you might say, oh, well how about Colorado, Well,
Travis Hunter is going to drive interest all year, and
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so is Colorado no matter what.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
So, but my issue isn't with ole Miss being left off, George,
That's not my issue. What is my issue is that
Ohio State has one of the best defenses of all
time heading into this season, at least on paper, and
they picked an ole Miss transfer to be the Ohio
State cover down.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Oh they could have picked Caleb downs too or JT
to them allow, that would have been an option for them.
I would not have, mind.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You in ransom like, there's a bunch of options that
they have, but they went with a dude who so
not only does Omiss not get anybody on the cover,
the running back who left is Ohio State's representative, so
they ca double shot of disrespect. So that's what I
was saying. My only issue is I'm an ole Miss fan.
I'm looking at this and I'm still buying the game,
but I'm mad.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Okay, that makes sense, so we'll see what happens with
the with with the rest of the covers.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
But I have question for you about the price. Okay,
the price, there's a seventy The price is this was
one of those it didn't really matter. I didn't look
at the I didn't look at the the A sticker
on it. When it comes time to purchase it, I'll
just be like, oh damn whatever, Okay, that is what
it owes. There's three price points. One is seventy, one
(05:37):
is the Deluxe Edition is one hundred, and the MVP Bundle,
which I think might include Madden, is one hundred and fifty.
What how much would this game, the base edition of
this game? How much would it have to cost for
you to have like a second thought about buying it?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Anything over one hundred twenty bucks?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Really?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, I mean I've been so in on this that.
But however, though, if the game is like one of
those flawed years of Madden, where it's like a mid
year of Madden, then now you've now lowered what I
will pay for it the next year. So I'm so
priced into it this year because of my anticipation and
(06:26):
my and my dude. It's like Chick fil A being
closed on Sunday, Like you would you.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Pay would you pay double on Sunday? Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I would pay double on Sunday for Chick fil A
to be open.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Okay, would you pay double on Monday? No?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I would not pay double on Monday because Chick fil
A is open on Monday. So that's the point is
that you actually get something like it's it's like so
that's it's like getting something when it's not available. Like
you know that if you order, you know that if
(07:03):
you ask, you know, a doctor to come to your
house at two o'clock in the morning versus two o'clock
in the afternoon, it's gonna cost more money.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
True. True. The way I look at it, though, is
that EA has actually saved me about seven hundred and
fifty dollars by not dropping for the last eleven years.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Oh so, so the way I look at it, actually
charge you seven hundred and fifty bucks for the game
or less, and you feel like you were getting a rebate.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Oh for sure, because that's money I was going to
give you anyway. I stayed playing NCAA fourteen for eleven years.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yep. All right, Next thing up, So the primetime games,
obviously we've known who they're going to be, but just
seeing them in person and knowing that it's less than
one hundred days away, I want to know from this
list from the week one game, Ralph ed, well, there's
some Week zero there's a week zero game on here
(08:04):
that I think is intriguing. Two. But from this list
of games, which one is, like, what's most sticking out
to you? Because you got for those audio listeners. We
have North Dakota State at Colorado, which is a week
zero game, and then for Week one you're gonna have
oh wait, actually no, no, no, excuse, excuse me, that is
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a week one game. And then you have but it's
just on Thursday. You have the Saturday game Clemson Georgia,
Miami and at Florida, Notre Dame at Texas A and
m USC versus LSU, and Boston College at Florida State.
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If you could only watch one of those games, which
one are you watching?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Ooh, that's a good way to phrase that question. I
think I think Miami at Florida is the one that
interests me the most because billion napiers on what the
thinnest of thin ice? Yes, Mario Cristobal is on ice. Yes,
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we don't know. We cannot Yeah, we cannot ascertain the
thickness of the ice that Mario cristaball is walking on
right now. But both of these fan bases are very
eager to get back. Both of them have undergone a
lot of change in the off season. Both of them,
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I feel like have recruited at a high level, Miami
maybe higher arguably than Florida. I think this game just
matters a lot a lot to a lot of people.
Clemson versus Georgia. They they've opened the season before, didn't
necessarily impact the outcome of you know, ugly ugly game
like three nothing fourth quarter type stuff, didn't necessarily imp
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pack people's mindsets going forward. Notre Dame Texas A and
M is interesting, but I don't think there's an onus
on A and M to win the most important game here.
To me seems like Miami at Florida North Dakota State Colorado.
I've learned my lesson from the NDSU Arizona game, which.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I count them boys out. Buddy, do not know, but.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
You said Arizona's winning guaranteed. I said, Arizona never should
have scheduled the game. Arizona did win that game. I
feel like Colorado is probably in the same place they
should win. Yes, yeah, it would schedule these boys though, yes, are.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
The most important. So I actually would put Miami at
Florida as the second most important game. I would actually
put usc LSU as the most important game because this
is going to send these two teams in one of
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two directions. Both of their defenses were horrendous last year, horrendous,
and they both have new quarterbacks. LSU is going to
be well. USC is going to be trotting out Miller
Moss as their quarterback. We are going to I guess
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assume that LSU is going to be Garrett Neussmeyer, that
he's going to be there. So you have two inexperienced
guys at quarterback, two defenses that were trash. Neither one
of them was able to beef up their defensive line
like they wanted to in the offseason, and so where
do so If LSU wins this game, Brian Kelly is
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feeling good about itself. He's like, Okay, now our season
has an opportunity. If they lose this game, rouphe it
is going to be and they give up a lot
of is going to be a disaster. And USC fans
who don't show up to the spring game, they are
going to be discouraged if they lose this game.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Ralph, I agree, I agree. I have a question for you, Okay,
what do you think the over under is? Because it's
already set five months out? What do you think the
over under is for LSU USC because they're going to
go off the reputation of two teams that don't play defense.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Sixty eight that you hit it, it's sixty seven and
a half? What five months out? Yes, the Clemson Georgia
total is absurdly high. It's forty eight and a half
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right now, forty eight forty and a half. Huh yeah,
forty eight and a.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Half fur eight and a half. That's twenty four points apiece.
That's not that doesn't feel high to me.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Didn't but yeah, but didn't. Wasn't this a nine to
three game just two years ago? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
But the but the difference is that Carson Beck is there,
Clemson is not what Clemson was. Oh my god. And
George and of that forty eight I'm just looking right now,
George is favored by thirteen points.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
So that's hilarious to me.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah. So so I think that that the that that
LSU USC game that is the one because peep this, Ralph,
peep this. With LSU schedule right and USC schedule, So
after that SC game, LSU gets Nickel State. When then
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they they're at South Carolina U.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
C l A.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And you can't lose to USC and U c l
A or or either one of them, really, but especially
not U c l A. They they'll beat South Alabama,
then they got Ole Miss, Arkansas, Texasa and m Alabama, Florida,
Vanderbilt and Oklahoma. So if they don't win that USC game, Bro,
they could be staring at four losses on on the year,
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and that's not gonna go on the well with their
with their fan base.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
But again, but I guess you're right, it wouldn't go
over well. But the reason I disagree with it being
the most important game is because there is no inherent
risk for Brian Kelly to lose his job this year,
and there's no inherent risk for Lincoln Riley. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Oh, I do think that they're Oh, I think that
on Lincoln Riley side, I think that they would have
to figure out the buyout money. But I do but
I do think that people would would want him gone
though if they if if USC, because they go lsu
U toss state at Michigan and if they start out
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one and two and then play Wisconsin and that's a
toss up game at Minnesota's a toss up Penn State
like they could be what's that one, two, three, four, five, six.
They could be three and three after six games and
still got Maryland, Rutgers, Washington, Nebraska, U s LA, and
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Notre Dame left. They could be staring at at a
bunch of losses. But but but we're gonna talk about
them in a minute when we get to the win totals.
Because I do love this slater of games. I love
that it started like this, and just if we can
get the SEC to start playing nine conference games, everything
will be better. That means that we won't have any
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weeks throughout the entire year where we have, you know,
a mid slater of games. Please please, I'm begging you,
at CC begging you and ACC two, I'm begging you
please non conference games. All right now on to the win.
Oh actually sorry, excuse me. Onto the This is a
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week two game and we talked about this on on
a Fraid show, so you guys can go watch the
video everything. So the Colorado Nebraska game Ralph that is
week two. That game feels like for Colorado that that's
their LSU USC game, that that's the game that is
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going to send the season either left or right, because
Nebraska's trying to rekindle some greatness. Actually they're not even
trying to rekindle greatness. They're trying to rekindle Bowl game eligibility.
First seven consecutive losing seasons, you got to go all
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the way back to nineteen fifty seven, where the since
they have since you can find if you add up
for don't count these last seven and then to find
seven losing seasons, you get intertake, you get back to
nineteen fifty seven. So, Ralph, this team, this is a
must win for them, must win for Nebraska and for
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Colorado if they would have any hopes of anything over
six wins. This is a must win.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I agree. This is I mean, I feel like you're
even under selling it. This is like the super Bowl
for both teams. It's appointment view there. I mean, there's
a few games on Colorado schedule that like are appointment viewing. Yeah.
I can't, I can't. I can't believe that that. I
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have had a countdown clock since since one week before
Colorado Colorado State in twenty twenty three to Colorado Colorado
State twenty twenty four, like from a week before that game,
even kicked off. I was like, I can't wait for
this game and next year's game. But the Nebraska won
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because first of all, Colorado smoked in Nebraska last year.
It was their biggest win in that rivalry in fourteen years,
which I think was the last time that they had
been playing yearly games, and then they both left the
Big Twelve. Nebraska wants this game so bad, like more
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than any game on their schedule. This is the one
that they care about because the rivalries back, They're back
to playing each other, even if they're not in the
same conference. They hate each other. And now they add
the John Ellen to the mixed pressure of Nebraska, Nebraska
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getting the number one quarterback recruit, Colorado getting the number
one offensive line recruit. There's so much pressure on Dion
and Matt Rules, and it's going to be in Lincoln,
so like Colorado fans aren't gonna be able to get
into this game.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Oh, this is a proof of concept game. This is
a proof of concept game. And I am like, Nebraska
and Matt Rule have to prove that they're moving in
the right direction, and Dion is trying to prove his
proof of concept that that not high school recruiting at
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at a high level and that I can keep swapping
players out every year and that this will work. Because
he's got to prove, I mean, if you're d On, really,
you got to prove that there's something worth kids signing
up for after Shadur and Shiloh Lee, that there is
magic still there well in Travis Hunter two when he
leaves after this year, that there is magic there, that
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this is a special place that you need to sign
up for because you can to have this here because
if not, Seaton will be in the transfer portal and
at the University of Oregon next year, and and anybody
else that is any good on that football team. But
let's look at that college Colorado for a second. We
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already talked about their North Dakota State Week one game.
Then they're at College at Nebraska at Colorado State Ralph.
If they don't start out three and oh, if they
start out two and one, okay, But then they go Baylor, UCF,
Kansas State, Arizona, Sincy, Texas Tech, Utah, Kansas, and Oklahoma State.
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And I want to bring this up because handicapping these
games for people is going to be tough. And this
is why you need to be here on the Ona
Fraid Show on College Football Apostles because we know these teams.
We know these Pac twelve teams that are going over
the Pac twelve, teams that are deep in there, that
are gonna that are gonna be in the Big twelve,
Big Ten as well. We know what's going on with
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them people gay and there are few people that have
covered these teams and know them in depth like we
know them. So this is why you need to be
here and share it with a friend. So go ahead,
smash that like button, tell everybody about it, share the feed,
and leave a comment as well. So I'm looking at
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this Colorado schedule, Ralph, and if they don't win this
Nebraska game, this sends them in a totally different direction
for projection because I think that they believe that they
can win the Big Twelve, which I don't think they can.
But if they don't start out three and zero, if
they can't beat Nebraska, there's no way they're gonna win
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the Big twelve. Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, I mean, I don't put that much emphasis on
it because last year they smashed Nebraska in the second
game of the season and then they went one in
eight in car conference, So I don't think there's a course.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
It's also like the strongest that it's maybe ever been.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
But I'm saying that there's no to me, there's there's
no correlation. There's no correlation. Like I would be more
worried about the pressure that would increase internally because there's
a lot of people that have had to Any fan
base does this, any and every fan base does this
when your coach doesn't says some wild stuff. You gotta
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you gotta suit up, you gotta put on the armor,
you gotta go out on the internet streets and you
gotta go to battle. And Colorado fans are exhausted right
now because he has these boys.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
They're working, they're working on full max. They're working.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And so yeah, you, I mean you, you are. You
already got your Internet soldiers stressed out. If you go
out there, you get beat by Nebraska, it's gonna be
tough sledding like you're it's gonna slow down a lot
of that support. You need that energy going into the
Colorado State game. It West got you last year. So
I don't know, I just I think it's a very
important game, just for how how your own fan base
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feels about you, because how the world feels about you
doesn't matter. We've realized that ninety nine percent of the
college football ecosphere is looking at Deon Sanders after this
last offseason and and Shador's antics and dropping a you know,
dropping a song and talking about players that didn't used
to be on the team and you know, flexing the
watch and talking about cars and all that stuff. And
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they're looking at They're looking at Dion saying he's gonna
be a top five pick, Dion jumping in the mix
and going after kids that are on other teams. They're
looking at him and being like, you're ridiculous, Like this
is all completely ridiculous. How come Colorado fans can't see it?
Well because of their fans and it's their job to
not see it, but they they have been at war
defending this man. And if they lose the ne Bratha
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like that, it's just gonna get that much harder. So
that's why I think this game is so just for
the internal stuff. And Nebraska's got to be exhausted. Man.
They show up every single year ten toes down, repping
the Big Red, only to go only just to get
let down just to go three and six in the
Big Ten, Like that's become dude. You know, Nebraska went
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thirty four straight years spending at least part of the
season in the top ten. Thirty four straight years from
now Raked.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yes, Now they're like, oh man, it would be nice
to see a number in front of our name.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But to see Dean get you two years in a
row after you're paying an average of ten million a
year to Matt.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Rule, Oh man, I can't relate. I don't even know
what that's like to have a team that's not Raked.
That sucks, all.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Right, So.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Now we want to look at what Okay, all right,
so now it is win total time. People win total time.
So they're there are some ones that and we'll get
more and more into the mass this season, I mean
as we get closer and closer to the season. But
there are a couple that we pointed out that we
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wanted to examine. And there was one from the SEC,
I mean, well from the ACC that we're looking at,
and that is the and that's the Miami Hurricanes. The
Miami Hurricanes Ralph. They're over under for wins is nine
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and a half and if Mario Christobaul wins nine and
a half games. If he wins nine games, the fan
base is going to be happy. If they don't win
nine games, they are going to be like pissed off.
If he wins nine or more games, they're gonna be
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a static. If he does not, it is going to
be a major problem, especially with his quarterback situation where
he's got cam Ward who came from Washington State throwing
for a trillion yards. And if he can't then translate
because he has not put out good quarterback play. He's
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not his quarterbacks up. The kid that was there last,
Tyler Van Yes, Tyler Van Dyke have TVD and even
Justin Herbert didn't put up great stats in college. So
he hasn't had great quarterbacks that play. And if this
happens to cam Ward two, this is a crystal ball
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problem and not a player problem. Can we establish that.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, I mean he I mean very much of the
best when really like in MMA, in the UFC, there
are some of the world's best wrestlers, right, best wrestlers
on Earth, And if they get you down on the ground,
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it's probably over. They might not choke you out like
a jiu jitsu specialist. They might not clean your clock
like a boxer, but if they get you on the
ground but keep you there for five straight rounds and
they'll get to win. It's not sexy and it's not fun,
and it's not a knockout and it's not a chokeout.
And that feels very much like if you've rooted for
any Mario Cristobal coach teams, that feels very much like
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what his goal has been. It's been to physically dominate
you for sixty minutes. And he doesn't care if it
looks flashy or sexy or anything like that. But the
problem with taking a game to the sixtieth minute is
you put yourself at risk.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yes, that's it. And I didn't look at this until
after he left Oregon, Ralph. I was like, hold up,
and when landing, when we started knocking the doors off
of people again in games that you should I was like,
this is weird. And I was looking back, I can't
remember very many blowouts, even in games that you should
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be blowing people out, Like games are closer than they
should be, and some of those games they lost simply
because a penalty goes your way. Somebody makes a heroic
catch is like something weird happens and now you're in
a dogfight and you're not able to overcome that particular thing.
So I think that that's a problem. But let's look
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at this at this nine and a half games, Ralph,
are you projecting them over under that nine and a half?
So they got Florida, Florida A and M Ball State,
South Florida, Virginia Tech, Cal Louisville, Florida State, Duke, Georgia Tech,
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Wake Forest, and Syracuse. They do not have like I
don't think that they're gonna I think Florida State, maybe
Louisville are the only teams on their schedule that are
going to be ranked at any point in time in
this season. Probably m maybe, yeah, maybe Duke maybe at
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some point in time, but probably not at the end
of the season. So with only two teams with winning
records on your I mean sorry with uh that are
even possible to be ranked at any point in time
in the season, including Florida State, I don't think that
you can that like anything under that nine and a half.
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So anything under ten games would have to feel like
a failure because they can accept the Florida State loss.
But but what other game on their schedule can you
really accept the loss in with how much they've put
into recruiting financially and they're where their classes have been ranked.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Even ten and two with Florida State and Florida being
your losses feels.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Gross because because because now the only team you're better
than in Florida is South Florida in Florida A and
M right and maybe you see but they so that
that feels gross.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Ten wins with a loss to a clearly inferior team
when it comes to recruiting rankings feels gross. This is
really like eleven and one or else kind of it.
Kind of that way, prof if they win nine games
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back out of the portal.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yep, they got Kim Warder out the portal, so it's gonna.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Be I mean, it's a to me, it's eleven or bust.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, that that makes a lot of sense, Like you
gotta damn okay, So I am going to take the
under on this nine and a half. I think that
they're gonna be at nine. I think that they're gonna
find a way to to to lose a couple of
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games they're for Su're gonna lose a Florida State game,
and they'll find a way to lose two other games,
and so yeah, I'm gonna put them at nine and
three in the regular season. Now, mind you if they
Bowl game. I'm just talking about the regular season. So,
so are you taking the over or the under on Miami?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I would I would take the over if I was
gonna take this one. If I would, I would take
the over. It's a it's a scary one. I want
to stay away from it. I don't can set are
betting on a Mario Cristobal coach team to exceed expectations
to be a smart bet because name one name one
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that ever did it. Maybe his first year at Oregon, yep,
maybe so. But if I had to bet it, I
would take the over because I think it is smarter
than assuming that they're going to lose to a duke
without Riley Leonard or something like that. But if you're
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just going off of.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
My leak, just transferred from A to Texas. So we'll
say now on to we We picked out a couple
of Big Ten teams too, and one of them that
I am high on this year, and I am and
it's all because Number one Penn State's defense has been incredible.
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I just don't know how Drew Aller can't get better,
Like he has to get better, Like that had to
be when James Franklin changed their offensive coordinator. That had
to be the sole focus of the entire offense is
getting Drew Aller better. Like that had to be it
because that's the difference between them beating Ohio State last
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year and not. That's the difference is Drew all are
playing good football. So I'm looking at their schedule West
Virginia Bowling. They they're over under his tent. West Virginia Bowling, Green,
Kent State, Illinois, UCLA, USC Wisconsin, Ohio State, Washington, Perdue, Minnesota,
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and Maryland. The only spot I can find a loss
is possibly to Ohio State. And but if Drew Aller
does not play well, they're gonna lose another game as well.
They're gonna go ten and two if Drew Aller is
not playing good football. If he's playing good football, they
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have a chance at twelve and zero.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Roh, Yeah, they do have a chance. You know what
what's weird is Penn State fans will tell you that
Drew Aller actually wasn't that bad because His twenty five
touchdown passes last year is third all time in a
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single season for them. That his completions was sixth all
time in a single seam.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
And for that, well, the problem is that you don't
win games on the statue.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
We watched the games percentage all time and yes, yes,
point taken, but also your totals suck historically because you
adapted late. Now you got to get on the same
page as everybody else does. Just because he's elevated in
school history doesn't mean that that's going to be what
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it takes to actually win. Look at what Justin Fields
or CJ. Stroud did at Ohio State, Like that is
what it takes to win at that level, and they
it's not like either one of them as a national championship,
But that's what it takes to be. In the conversation,
that's what it takes to beat you at Penn State
is a competent passing attack. You have to be able
to have that as well, and it can't be the
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weather and it can't be your history. So Drew Aller, yes,
statistically is one of the best Penn State quarterbacks ever
already at age twenty. But hey, but that but sometimes
that them's the breaks. Sometimes your franchise history dictates that
you and I talked the other day on the phone
about the fact that they say that they're like the
Chicago Bears. I'm saying that, maybe you don't. I'm saying
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they're like the Denver Broncos, right, Like the Denver Broncos
have a storied history. But the truth of the matter
is John Elway's most touchdowns he ever threw in the
season was twenty seven, but he didn't he did what
it took in certain moments. But even his like super
played in five Super Bowls and he has like three
touchdown passes six interceptions. But yet people remember John Elway
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is one of the best ever because he got it
done when it mattered most and he did it at
the end. So you don't need to be the biggest
stat stuffer in the world at Penn State. You just
got to be able to win games. And like you said,
eyeball test fourth quarter, Drew Aller's got to be that dude,
even if going into the fourth quarter he's only got
one hundred and ten years passing, You would rather that
as a prince statement.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Like Mischigan just did it Mischian just did it will
be fine, all right? All right? The next team from
the Big Ten is US. The next team from the
Big Ten that we were going to talk about is
USC and USC ralph they're over under seven and a half.
(37:03):
So Lincoln Riley this is his third season. If you
told USC fans that in his third season the over
when he was first hired, that in his third season
the over under for his win total for their third
season would be seven and a half, would they have
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believed you? And how would they have reacted if they
would have said that we would give Lincoln Riley like
one hundred and ten million dollars and in his third
year his over under would be projected at seven and
a half.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
That's a crazy way to look at that. I don't
think it would feel great. I don't think it would
feel great. That's a wild way to look at it. Like,
would you take this if this is what your projection
would be three years in? Do they also get the
information that they only won seven games last year coming
off a high Yes, because I'd imagine if that would
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be hard to process. I think there's probably a lot
of USC fans that are just smashing the over and
thinking they're being disrespected. To be honest, I they Okay,
USC is still in a position where they can just
blame all this on Alex Grinch.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
M okay, so so, so I am taking the I
think that they will win in between six and nine games, okay,
and it all is going to depend on Miller mas
saying that defense. But I'm gonna take the over. I'm
gonna put them at eight wins. So and are you
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taking the over under of that seven and a half?
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I there is another one. I wouldn't touch with a
ten foot pole, But I do think if you made
me decide, talent alone makes me want to take the over.
I think the most fascinating thing about this season is
you have a quarterback that has been in Lincoln Riley's system,
Like this is where you find out if Lincoln Riley
can develop. Right. You have a quarterback that Lincoln Riley
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didn't recruit, that has been in his system for two years,
looked good in one bowl game, and then USC made
a decision based off of how he looked in that
bowl game, not off of what they think they knew
they had at the time, which means we got to
go back to the fact that coaches have literally no
idea what a quarterback can do until they get thrown
out there. They have no idea, they never have, they
(39:31):
never have, and so they hope. So what we know
right now is that Lincoln Riley didn't understand what Miller
Moss was. He feels like he does now and they're
going with him. Now we get to find out can
you develop under Lincoln Riley? And I'm fascinated by that.
(39:52):
But on talent alone, speed alone, I want to say
eight wins should be the basement. I would I would.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Say over Okay, so ls LSU or is that a
winner loss?
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I think that that's probably a loss.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Okay, they'll beat Utah State at Michigan, win or loss.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
I think they'll win that game.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Okay, Wisconsin, I think they'll win that game. Minnesota win
at Minnesota when October fifth, I think they win. Okay,
Penn State, I think that's a loss. Okay, at Maryland.
When Rutgers win at Washington, mmm mmm. At Washington with
(40:51):
jdfish that retool roster, their win total is about the same.
Are you going with that one as a winner?
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Loss? I think that they will lose to Washington.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Okay, Nebraska when at u C l A Notre Dame
when Notre Dame loss loss. Okay, so you got them
at eight and four then yes, okay, yeah, we're we're
(41:29):
we're bad about the same. I do believe that they're
gonna lose to Michigan though, so.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
That means just me and Michigan graduated everybody.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Yeah, but hey, listen, sometimes you are you are so
deep that it doesn't matter. And they developed, all right,
So that's usc. Now onto our SEC teams. Now, this
one is very interesting because we've heard Josh Pate bang
on this team, bro, and that is Florida. Oh, they
(42:03):
have the toughest schedule ever known to man in the
history of football. And they're over under for wins. Ralph
is five when they hired Billy Napier. If you had
told them that when it's third season that they're over
under for wins will be five, what they have believed,
you probably not.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah, that's tough. Five is so low.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, look at this schedule. Okay, So I'm gonna take
the over just because five is so incredibly low. I
just refuse to believe that they're gonna win five games.
Miami winner win or loss, I think they win. Okay,
I think they shock people. Yep, I agree to. They
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are gonna beat Samford. Then how about Texas A and M.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Where is that?
Speaker 1 (42:59):
And Gainesville?
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I think they can win.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
I do too. At Mississippi State.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Is this young team, young Mississippi State team. I think
they get that as well.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yep, I do too. Then you got UCF.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
At home, yep, win October fifth, I think they win.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Oh, I think that's gonna be a tough one, but
I'll give them a win there. At Tennessee I got
that as a loss.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah too.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Kentucky loss yep. Georgia in Texas, both of those are losses.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yeah, l s U loss, Oh, miss loss, Florida State loss.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
How many wins do we get to Ralph.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Well, I think I think five? Four?
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, four to five wins, buddy.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Either way, I mean it's five flat, It's not like
five and a half. So yeah, yeah, I don't think
I'm betting the over on that one.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah, I'm taking that wonder.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Florida's schedule reminds me of the back half of that
Pittsburgh Steelers schedule.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
God, bro, this is brutal. Lord have mercy. So yeah,
to make it a long story short, Billy Billy Napier
is in trouble if he bring if he breaks seven
wins out of this, he might get an extension, even
though the fans are gonna be like, we only won
seven games, Bro, you should be freaking happy if you
win seven games out of this, all right. The last
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team from the SEC that we wanted to talk about Oklahoma,
Ralph oak Lahoma. They are going into the SEC win
total seven and a half. People do not believe in them,
and I'm like, I don't understand why people do not
believe in them. Ralph, like they they are looking at
(45:10):
this team and they're like, yeah, nah nah. I know
that they have a young quarterback, but even with having
a young quarterback, it would just be wild to me
for them to not be able to put together seven
and a half wins. So that's exactly. And if Jackson
(45:32):
Arnold is good, like Oklahoma fans think that they like
that he is so good that they're fine with getting
rid of Dylan Gabriel, who's a good quarterback. They got
Temple and Houston and Tulane. They should win all three
of those first games, So then they got are you
taking it over under in the seven and a half,
(45:54):
Ralph over Yes, I am too. They got Tennessee after that,
then they're at Auburn. Think that the that the that
they'll go four and one to start the season. Then
they got Texas lost, they can beat South Carolina. The
Old miss game could be tough. They're gonna beat Maine.
(46:15):
Then they got Missouri and Alabama, which both games they
can win. This could be they could be staring at
nine wins, right in the face and on the cusp
of making the college football Playoffs, the twelve team playoffs.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
There's only one time since nineteen ninety nine, one time
where they won less than eight games.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
They are on a SEC now, Ralph, they're out of
that sorry Big twelve, and their fans are gonna be like, oh,
we're they're out of here.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Twenty four seasons in a row, they at least at
some point been in the top ten. They're they're elite,
They're a college football blue blood. Seven and a half
is a crazy insult. They can hang in the SEC.
I have no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Yeah I do, I do too. All Right, those are
the win totals, and we're gonna get into more as
the season goes on. But there's a term that we
need to tell you about. This term is called calimony.
Now you've heard of alimony in divorces, but calimony. And
(47:28):
the University of California, Los Angeles, so UCLA when they
left to go to the Big Ten, they left, and
cal got left in a lurch. And the UC Board
of Regions because they're still because they're in the same
university system, like so much so that Cal, Ucla, UC Davis,
all the UC's they all even they are all their
(47:50):
colors are blue and yellow on some level, blue and yellow,
blue and gold, like they're all the same colors, all
part of the same university system. And they said that
they were not going to allow. Well, Gavin Newsom, the governor,
got involved in it and it became political and now
(48:11):
UCLA has to pay col ten million dollars a year
for the next six years in calimony because UCLA is
going to the Big ten. Cal did not get an invite.
They ended up in the SEC on a reduced share,
and they were like and then California, the state of California,
the regents was like, ah, we need to subsidize some
(48:33):
of Cow's money. So they're going to be subsidizing cow
ten million dollars a year from a team ralph a
school that has an athletic department budget deficit. They already
are having financial problems, and you're going to force an
extra ten million on them. How does this make any sense?
(49:00):
This has got to be one of the most hair
brained things that we've had anybody do.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
This doesn't sound that different than any like any divorce.
Like That's how I love the term calimony is that
we we get to complain about whether or not it
was fair, because the intent of this was to give
U c L a permission to do what they did,
(49:33):
essentially retroactively. Because plotting with your rival to leave the conference,
which ultimately helped break the conference, you know, is kind
of like sneaking out your spouse. So you gotta you
gotta pay a little bit for the for the sin
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
But I've grown accustomed to a certain lifestyle. That's what
That's what this is.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Yes, but the but the funniest part about it is
that when they initially agreed to this, it was that
the amount will be somewhere between two and ten million. Uh,
that's such a huge window. I don't think anybody ever
thought that it would be the max?
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Why would you, especially now a window that big. See.
That was the problem is that they were like, we'll
we'll get them with the between two and ten and
then and then, and that's never gonna be the two.
It was never gonna be the two.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
I just love if U c l A U c
l A is gonna be mad at Cal for a
long time. Col fans are very entertained by this. It's
very very funny to them. Uh, it's gonna be obviously
a big hell.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Well, the biggest issue is gonna be it's.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Gonna be like UCLA shouldn't have even moved.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Because they're gonna get the same amount of money. Well
sort of, But then are they gonna try to retroactively
go back to court and get more money when the
ACC breaks up? That's gonna be the question out or
you see, like trying to get some is cal gonna
go try when the acc breaks up? Are they gonna
(51:12):
then go back and be like, listen, we need a
modification of this calimony.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
I hope so like not even I'm not I'm not
saying I hope it happens or I hope it works
in their favor. I'm just saying it would be very
funny for them to to say, like, hey, we need
a we need a little bit of extra help this month,
on top of the on top of the eight hunder
k check you cut us every month?
Speaker 1 (51:38):
Yes, all right? And now and now speaking of that,
so Sonny Dykes, head coach over at TCU, who had
been at Cal, he spoke up and decided to say
that there are two different college footballs. There's the college
football that the Alabama's, the Oregons, the Georgia's and you know,
(51:59):
Clemson playing, and then there is the college football that
individual one that the Louisiana Techs, the you know, the
even the Vanderbilts, and even though that they're getting big
time money and Nevadas and stuff like that, that they're
playing two different versions of college football, that there is
(52:20):
no competition, and that they basically should be split up
into two divisions. I don't like that, Ralph. I don't
like that because I have been a long believer that
everybody should negotiate their TV rights together. Right. It will
(52:40):
create more more parody and more NFL like results. And
I know that the individual schools Oregon doesn't want that.
Alabama does not want that, Georgia does not want that.
Ohio State does not want that. Greg Sanki does not
want that. The commission to Big ten, they do not
want that because any level of parody or where the
(53:05):
money is distributed, so now everybody's kind of even though
the bigger brands are still going to produce more money,
any level of parody and that that can cause other
people to rise up. Like look at the NFL. Yes,
the Chiefs are really good right now. Like the Patriots
were dominant for a while for twenty years. There comes
(53:29):
a point now where after that twenty years, the Patriots
sink and when Patrick Mahomes leaves, the damn Chiefs are
gonna stink for a while. And the Alabama's dan like
all those schools, they don't want the stink for a while.
They don't want other people to be able to come up.
Like where the Patriots were way up here, Chiefs were,
(53:50):
you know, down now it's completely flipped. They don't want that.
They do not want that, And Sunny Dykes' is right,
But I do think for the long term help the
college football, that you do need to have more parody
and that I'm hoping that the access with the twelve
and fourteen team playoffs that like we're seeing more five
(54:12):
stars go to different places and all of that, that
we're seeing more that we're seeing less depth on rosters,
like where you don't have you know, ten NFL guys
and then ten more than ten, more than ten more
in every single class. That way, now you got ten
(54:34):
and six and five and ten like on your classes
and they're more spread out. So that means that every
single week, that means these lines are gonna get tighter
and tighter like I wanted to where there's never lines
over like twenty points. If the line stayed somewhere in
(54:55):
between one and thirteen, bro, that is great forege football
if every single week, that's why people love the NFL
so much, because everybody can win.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
Yes, I love the idea of breaking it up. I
love the idea. I think that a system of college
football that is closer to Premier League or European soccer
(55:28):
would be fascinating. Where, yes, to where you.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
Have the I will I throw my plan out the window,
and I will I will, I will sign up for relegation.
Speaker 2 (55:41):
Because if you have if you have fcs G five
or G six or whatever it is now, and the
P four and the bottom team in every conference or
the bottom two teams in every conference is paired up
with a sister G six conference and you have the
(56:03):
ability to like one year flip the bottom and the top,
or two year block flip the bottom and the top.
I think it would be fascinating. Like, obviously people are
not going to give want to give up their contractual
monetary rights. I think it should apply to football only,
(56:25):
and I think you should continue to get paid, Like
if you start out the contract getting SEC money, but
you have to drop out of the SEC because you're
not doing anything Vanderbilt, and then you end up winning
at the G six level and you bounce back up
lose money, so you're not risking your money. I think
(56:50):
people will agree, and is what the top teams and
what the networks want anyway. It's why they've made it
so that the one G five G six presentative is
getting screwed over if they make a college football playoff appearance.
So let's just get rid of them altogether. Don't let
it affect basketball because people love the cinderellas in basketball,
but honestly, in football, I think Sunny Dikes is right.
(57:11):
I think they're the haves and the have nots. Rooting
for upsets is fun. You could still schedule these out
of conference or these non league games as part of
your schedule, but I think putting a little bit of
extra risk on it is something that you should do.
I'm gonna be honest, this is gonna sound really nerdy,
but this is the way that I play NCAA fourteen
whoever could because going into every new season in franchise mode,
(57:35):
you have the ability to reorganize conferences, and that's what
I do. I will take the worst team in the SEC,
and I will put them in the American Conference, and
I'll take the team that won the American Conference and
I'll put them in the SEC. I do it every
single year. It's a lot of fun, and so I
think Sunny Dikes is right, and I think there's something
that can be done about it that is win, win
(57:57):
win for everybody involved.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
Ralph, I think you're onto something, Buddy, think you are
onto something. I would absolutely sign up for that, buddy,
Sign me up, Sign me the hell up, because that
is a genius ass idea. I'm in re on relegation,
so every everything I said prior. I mean, I still
(58:24):
love my idea, but that one's even great.
Speaker 2 (58:27):
And you imagine how funny, how funny it is though
that like, if that system was in place, Colorado would
be like in the Mountain West right now.
Speaker 1 (58:39):
Oh man, hey, yeah, you never know, but you guys,
that is college football. Apostles on The Unafraid Show. I'm
George Reister, He's Ralph Ampton. Peace out. Catch you guys
next week The Pen to expre
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