Pac-12 Apostles - Week 1

Football is finally here (for the last time)! George Wrightser and Ralph Amsden prepare Pac-12 fans for their last week 1, with a rundown of the biggest storylines, a recap of Caleb Williams' Heisman defense debut, and a preview and prediction on every out of conference game. Will Deion live ip to the hype against TCU? Can Jedd Fisch avenge his loss to Northern Arizona? Can the Gators handle swimming in Salt Lake? We get into all that and more!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, here we go, Pack twelve fants. This one's
for you. This it's the Pack twelve apostles, and only
the truth lives here, Packed twelve apostless.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Amazon, and this is the
Pack twelve Apostles. Yeah, maybe last season, not of us here,
because we will still be colored covering college football, but
not for the Pac twelve, because who knows? Will there
be four teams? Will there be two teams? Will the

(00:38):
AAC merge, will the Stanford and Cal go to the ACC?
It ain't time to talk about that no more. We
don't care because it is football time and we already
got a game last week. Me and Ralph both are
we both hit the over under and we both are

(00:58):
against the spread.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
This thing started out great USC San Jose State, and
I had a conversation with Mike Yam that was pretty
cool on my Mad Dog Sports radio show, and ESPN
struck a deal to play ACC games and movie theaters. Ralph,

(01:22):
the second thing you put on here, I don't know.
I don't have an answer as to why the Pac
twelve didn't do stuff like this. Whatever, Bro. And then
George Kliakoff Yep, he's going to the college football playoff
meetings in Dallas. There was at least one development that
came out of that that was pretty cool. Yeah, that's

(01:46):
pretty damn dope. And yeah, so, but we'll start with
the USC San Jose State game. Ralph. USC dominated the
game right well, sorry they they won the game fifty
six to twenty eight. It was twenty one to seven
at halftime. They gave up an ugly touchdown right before halftime.

(02:11):
Caleb Williams two hundred and seventy eight yards four touchdowns.
Was this a good performance by the Trojans?

Speaker 3 (02:22):
It was a good performance by Kayleb Williams and Zach
Branch and the fifty six different receivers that caught passes
for USC. I think it was a really good performance
for the offense. I think the questions are still there
for Alex Grinch in the defense. And oh boy, did
the PAC twelve network they had a camera on Grinch

(02:42):
the whole game. Do you notice that?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yes? Well, actually I couldn't really notice it because I
was having trouble watching the damn game.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
That's right, that's right. You got me kicked off my
sling like four different times. Okay, I got you kicked
off logging back in. We were trying to we were
trying to share passwords and Sling wasn't having it.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah. And then I was like it because ordinarily to
for the PAC twelve network, I have to use my well,
my my aunt she uses mine. Well, I use hers
for PAC twelve network. She uses mine for something else
that she wants to watch whatever.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Right, So sharing is caring?

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yes, even Netflix told you so, until until they realized
that it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, what makes Sling be so hardcore about this? Like?
What are they trying to gate keep for?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Did you see that?

Speaker 2 (03:35):
They?

Speaker 3 (03:36):
I I was looking for like how to get back
on Sling, and I was like the ALF channel. Sling
has the ALF channel and all it does is play ALF.
That's what Larry Scott got us on, Yeah, next to
the ALF channel.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
And and people I was tweeting in frustration because people
were like, it's not that hard to get on PAC
twelve network. Just log in with Sling or or Spectrum
or Charter or whoever else. I was like, dude, I'm
a core cutter. I pay for what I want, like
the idea that I have to buy an entirely new

(04:12):
subscription service at like sixty eighty buck. However much it
is a year a month to have Pack twelve network.
Somebody needs to get slapped in the face, dude. The
idea of paying for it on Apple for like five
ten bucks a month way better, way better than the

(04:35):
current option.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
That's how the pactok network could have done standalone streaming
for forty dollars a month forty and it would have
been less than Sling because I don't want on it
on Sling. It's a sports add on. Plus you gotta
pay for DVR because multiple games are being played at
the same time. That's the point paying eight hundred dollars
a year to watch one channel.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Goddamn it, Yes exactly, So I'm like f them because
I don't know damn cable boxes in my in my house.
I spent the money on Internet. That's what I spent
the money on. I spent the money on my internet,
so it dude. I could not be any more frustrated

(05:17):
with the availability of it. And truthfully, by the time
I got my Spectrum account set up, because then I
was like, f it, I'll just sign up for my
own Spectrum account. I'll pay the money during during football
season whatever. Then spectrums like, nah, nah, that ain't gonna
work because it takes twenty four hours for our stuff

(05:40):
to update. I'm like, do you realize how antiquated that
that is? To sign up for something and it takes
twenty four hours for it to work? Like that's garbage.
So then I was like, I gotta go old school, buddy,
got it, got it, gotta go old school. Locked up
the VPN and then in the up on the PAC

(06:00):
twelve international feed, so I got a chance to watch it.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Oh, there you go. Well, Kayla Williams looked great, Zach
Branch looked e electric.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Oh my god, he dude. That kid, that kid right there,
that kid right there, Bro, he was like this in
high school. I was like, oh my god, he's yes
Anthony Thomas. Except fact was he was.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
And I used to argue and say, like, this kid
needs to flip. He needs to be a corner. He
could be the greatest corner ever. Because his brother is
a corner. I think he's even better. And I was wrong.
He can do whatever he wants. He had me thinking, now,
this is not a comparison. He had me thinking about Reggie.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
No that, ain't you.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
No, I'm saying that he had me thinking about Reggie.
I didn't say like he was playing like Reggie. It
was watching him on the field. I'm like, man, I
miss Reggie.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, it was the Anthony Thomas.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
A little bit of a Dory Jackson too, but not
playing on both sides of the ball or whatever.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, a door a Dory wasn't like that, though, bro
A Dory was super electric and all this. But this
kid has those de Anthony Thomas stop on a dime
and leave and leave ten, ten pennies and leave ten,
leave you ten pennies, buddy, I.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Couldn't the little boy from Incredibles.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yes, I left saying he's going to be a problem,
a major problem for everybody involved.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
He already cashed in, right, Yes, he just.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Got an nil deal with fanatics. I'm sorry with Panini
with the enemy, Yes, exactly so. But let's Caleb Williams
was pretty spectacular. One of the things that I've heard
some NFL scouts say to knock on him is that
he does hold the ball too long.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
He does hold the ball a long ass time. We've
been talking about it for a while on this show.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, and you can't do that in the NFL, like
you can get away with it. But I think that
he will be able to, you know, to like fix
that as it goes to the to the NFL because
something like that. He calls in love with the big play,
and I understand why, but I would rather my quarterback

(08:26):
be able to do special things and occasionally have a
time that he holds the ball too long or something
something like like that then than somebody who's never capable
of something spectacular.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
He's got vic level of capability. It's crazy, it's crazy,
and I think he can. He can use it as
a crush. That was my big worry after the Arizona
State game last year when he escaped fifteen different sacks
and he would run all the way to the sideline,
have the ball full nine seconds before letting it fly,
Like how long can he get away with this? But

(08:59):
I mean worth the incentive a state. Do you think
the defense still has a problem or do you think
it's forty seven year old Chavon Cordero being a dual
threat with a lot of experience.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Both it's both, it is both problems us. He is
super young, particularly on defense as well, and I think
that this is who Lincoln Riley is. So there's like
it's like the old quote that a man's strengths flow

(09:33):
from the same Well, it's his weaknesses. Lincoln Riley offensive
master can score points. It also that style of play
also makes it so when you're in practice and you're
practicing against it all the time, your defense is not
going to be as physical as it needs to be
at times. Yeah, so it's like a give and take.

(09:55):
It's hard to have both things at the same time.
That's why I'm a big believer in the past spread,
which is all the fundamentals of eye football of you know,
line up with a full back football, except for you
are spreading people out at the same time. So instead

(10:16):
of all zone plays, you're gonna have more gap scheme
plays where people are pulling and it forces your defense
to be fit physical. Sometimes you go under center and
just line up and run people over and your defense
has to get used to that. And that's the thing
that USC's defense is not used to. I do believe

(10:36):
that they will be a little bit improved from last year.
But the way San Jose State was able to move
the ball pick up third and twenty two's pick up
third and seventeens and stuff like that. That part, that
part couldn't concern me because they were five for thirteen
on third down, which is not terrible, but they also

(11:01):
were able to amass four hundred yards and seven point
three yards of rush. I know some of that's the quarterback,
but still they run the ball in college football. So
I was a little bit taken aback by that. And
I do think that when USC as they get deeper
into their schedule that I don't think that they're going

(11:24):
to have a problem with Nevada, Stanford, Arizona State may
try to be a little more physical, because that's the
way you know that Kenny Dillingham did in Oregon, led,
led with the run game, led with the run game.
But when they get down to that second half of
the schedule in order Notre Dame, Utah, Cal Washington and

(11:49):
Oregon and UCLA, bro that defense is gonna be tested.
I mean, that's six weeks in a row where you're
getting punched in the face six weeks in a row,
and I don't think that defense is gonna be able
to hold up to that six weeks in a row.
Like it's not spread out where you get you know, Utah,

(12:09):
then you get Arizona, then you get Oregon, then you
get Colorado. No, it is six punches in the face
in a row. Calin gonna be as thorough of a punch,
but it's still gonna be a punch in the face.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
How mad do you think USC's coaching staff gets when they,
like Chavon Cordero breaks off a twenty five yard run,
they look down at the roster and see that he's
a senior with no more eligibility left.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Why because they because they would be like, oh ooh,
sign us up, sign us up, sign us up. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
It's like going into a restaurant. You see what you
want on the menu, you order it, and they're like,
oh sorry, fresh out.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, yep, because us they're shopping.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
They're not just playing against you, they're shopping.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yes, oh, they are absolutely shopping. They're saying, ooh ooh.
Maybe maybe it's a little running back, maybe therunning back
Conley from from from San Jose State. Maybe he fits
with us.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I wouldn't let my players
shake hands afterward.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Nope, nope, no, not even a little bit. So I
guess to put a Bowl On this game, USC did
score fifty six points. You can't, you know, take anything
away from there. No turnovers, quarterbacks, no turnovernovers. Yeah, by
by either team. And last year's USC's team feasted on

(13:35):
turnovers like like that was the thing that propelled them.
And if they are not able to get turnovers, that's
gonna be a problem.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Did you see any clips of Eric Gentry He said
he put twenty two pounds of muscle on. He looks
the exact same.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yes, dude, he is six foot twelve. He he looks
like a six foot six version of of Jalen of
Jayden Daniels.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah, he's he Maybe he's got like a like a
Jason Taylor type future of being able to have kind
of a diverse role. But he's much more of a
coverage linebacker than he is a pass run Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
How can you get low?

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah? Special, He's special. So you'll appreciate this because you
know my wife and you know her temperament. Uh, she
got up and she was watching the game with me,
and she got up and left the room because I
wouldn't stop shouting the name of the previous college of
every player that they showed on camera.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
How many players and.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Basically everybody except for Zach Branch. I was every time
Brendan Rice caught a ball, I'm like Colorado key on
bars made attack on like Arizona Dorian Singer touchdown. As
I was yelling at I was just yelling with no
context and she was kind of like drifting off and

(15:09):
startled every time. So yeah, she was not pleased with me,
and she definitely left the room, but I kept doing it.
It was fun.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yep. So so that's that game. Next thing up, I
got a chance to talk to Mike Yam on My
on My on My radio show on Mad Dog Sports
Radio seven to ten pm Pacific, and you got a

(15:44):
chance to listen to the interview. Were what were your
biggest takeaways for what mikey Am had to say.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah, uh so, mikey Am worked for PAC twelve Network
for a long time. He's on pac Tel Radio now.
He's fantastic. He always has been. There's a thing about
Pac twelve network employees where their instinct is to defend
the product and I and it makes me feel really

(16:13):
bad for It makes me feel really bad for them
because they can't help but feel like they're being criticized
when they're not. You know, the issue has always been availability.
The PAC twelve network actually produces some really cool stuff
that is very specific to the regional footprint. Yogi Roth

(16:36):
is able to like root for twelve teams at once. Yes,
and you believe him, Yes you do. Ashley Adams Sinn
is so informed and ready and like chill and just
the perfect person to be hosting studio stuff. Mike Yam
was so fantastic. I think Ted Robinson does a really

(16:56):
really good job on play by play. They put together
very very good things that no one gets to see,
and I think that that they can't help but take
it personal when people are like, it's the PAC twelve
network's fault that there is no more Pack twelve because
it makes it sound like we're talking about the product.
And he when you brought it up, he understood what

(17:19):
you were saying, but you could still hear that that,
like that instinct was still in him to defend the
network when nobody's talking about the network, because nobody can
see what the network is doing it And I wish
that because I've noticed a lot at the statements being
put out there, whether it's Yogi Roth or Ashley or
other people of like, Hey, the people here worked really

(17:40):
hard and this is really hard for them, and be
kind and and and you know, I just that So
that stood out. That stood out that that's kind of
still in him. And the other thing is just that
I miss him. I miss him being part of the
as somebody who does pay two billion dollars a month
for Pack twelve men network. I wish he was still

(18:01):
part of that action because it just felt like, you know,
just like with with h Paul Feinstein and the SEC,
it really felt like that group uh represented us. Well.
It was just cool to hear you talk to him.
He's always the best.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, yeah, I'm I love him. And just so you know,
in case you didn't know, he just wrote a new book,
a children's book called Rice and Fried, Rice and Marinaire.
So it's about this about a Chinese kid who's part
Italian as well, and he's trying to figure out what
to make for for his friends.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
So that's cool, it's cool. And I I, uh, you
did ask him. I I text you get him on
the record. One drive to win the game, Andrew luck
Er Caleb Williams and you both went luck And I
thought yes, and with hesitation no no, I know you
had no hesitation.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
No big. And it's not that Caleb Williams is not fantastic.
It's just I've seen so many game winning drives from
Andrew Luck while at Stanford, and.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
He is also the say he's not He doesn't have
the quickness that Caleb Williams had. No, but he's as fast,
if not faster.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yes, So now I imagine if you put Andrew Luck
with Caleb Williams weapons. That's what I'm saying. Bro. It's it, Bro,
It's scary, scary stuff. So you guys, we will effort.
I'll see if I can get put that interview here

(19:36):
on this podcast at the at the very end, but
we shall we shall see. No promises at this point.
So ESPN, though, has now struck a deal to play
ACC games in movie theaters and you and the next
sentence that came out of your mouth was, oh, why

(20:01):
didn't they Why didn't the Pac twelve do something like this?
And they're going to do it for their New Year's
Six Bowl games too. I actually love this because I
think that the movie theater could be the next front Frontier.
It's like a sports bar.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Bro they serve food. Now they serve beer. Like, did
you get in there with my friends in a recliner
in the dark and the air conditioning, and like, let's
watch some football. That'd be so fun. Yes, a whole
day of it. Give me the whole Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Just sit there for the whole damn day.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Sorry, honey, I gotta go to work.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
I gotta go to work.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Oh, put on my popcorn bib.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
There was a dude I saw on TikTok. He put
a gave his wife a note and he filmed it
and she opened it up. It was his two weeks
notice from his family. He said, you know, so for
until March, I have prior commitments on Thursdays, Saturdays, Sundays

(21:01):
and Monday nights. So you know, so I'll be unavailable
because I have prior commitment. So I'm giving you my
two weeks notice from from the family and marriage on
those days.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
That's that's kind of the situation I'm in.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yep, Oh yeah, I have.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
I got two hundred plus high schools that I cover
in the state of Arizona, the twelve pac twelve teams,
and then the stuff that we do together. I try
to stay aware of all the sports stuff and I
stay ay up till about one in the morning, listen
to your show. I got up this morning because we
had to. We had both cars breakdowns. We got them
both fixed, had to return a rental car. I didn't
talk for the first hour. I walked to the wrong

(21:42):
side of the door of the car. Like my first
few days in this I am I'm a mess. And
I love the fact that I that it. That it
entails like seven months of like of kind of being
at a decent pace and then five months of like
fifteen hours a day, seven days a week.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Dude, why are so we have an official visit this weekend?
I looked at the schedule and I was like, br
this is on Saturday, Like what.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
On what? East Saturday?

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Set the tone Saturday. I'm gonna have to be paying
extra attention just for you, bro.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
I'm like, what what are we doing here? Like I
don't have time for the stinky soup official visit, messing
up my college football Saturday.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
I applied for a credential to go see Spencer Rattler,
Jay and Drake May here in Charlotte and interview Spencer Ratler.
And then I was like wait, that's gonna cost me
like five pack twelve games that I have to stay
up all night watching. I don't know if I maybe
I'll go down there for like fifteen twenty minutes, get
a couple of photos.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
But FTK, man, FTK, fuck them kids. Man, That's what
I always say when I don't feel like well, I
mean in a joking, loving, loving way like man, FTK,
And and my wife is like, all right, yeah, I

(23:08):
love this idea. I am happy about it. I think
that this could actually be the new wave watching. Like
you pay your twelve bucks, you get a chance to
watch their and they know that all you're gonna do
is get concessions anyway.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah, and do whatever it takes to save these movie theaters. Man,
if you want to have eight different churches meeting in
front of eight different screens, I don't care, Like, dude, dude,
imagine tiling them.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Imagine tiling them so like you put four games on
at one time, on like your oh.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
My gosh, like a Vegas sportsbook, like yes, yes, circa.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yes, and just have people, dude. People will sit in
that joint all damn day, all damn day.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
You could be at home craft and a business plan tonight,
because that's how your brain works.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
You are right. The funny part is you are right.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
You got like thirty six irons in the fire right now,
and you're like thirty seven. Sounds like there's room for that.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
That might work.

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Speaker 2 (24:22):
Oh, speaking of that might work, George Kleiakoff Man, Okay,
So the latest that we've heard is is that if
the if there is expansion two of the PAC twelve,
if they are, whether it's with the four teams, adding

(24:44):
teams from the AAC and then eventually adding Mountain West
teams because they have to do it within two years
to be to still be a conference. If that's the case,
then George Kliakoff is expected to be fired. But he
is right now attending the College Football Planning meeting in

(25:06):
Dallas alongside Notre Dames AD and the other nine conference commissioners.
And think about that. He's got to be in the
in the room with Brett Yormark, Jim Phillips, and Tony
Pettiti at least he doesn't have to be in there
with Oh lord, who's the Big Ten's old commissioner, Kevin

(25:30):
Kevin Warren. Think about it, dude, we're like a year
away from like we're well, we're barely a year. So
we're like a year and two months away from the
alliance between the ACC and the Big Ten and the

(25:51):
BAC twelve. Bro consider that it was this was this
paper alliance that was supposed to be roundbreaking student athletes
first and all of this stuff, and it just felt like,
now when you look back, it felt like a predator trap.
It felt like that that old, that old parable where

(26:14):
the where the frogs are in the are in the
pot of water and they turn the water on low
and then they get so comfortable that they can't they
their muscles get so relaxed they can't jump out anymore.
That's what it feels like. That the PAC twelve got groomed,
That they got groomed, and then it just got taken

(26:35):
advantage of.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
So your girl, Heather Dinnisch, who was a senior writer
for ESPN, tried to interview George Klaevkoff out there at
this meeting. He refused to comment and she said. She
tweeted she was gonna keep trying, so bless her. She
did catch up with him a couple of minutes ago,
and she said, this is all he said as he bolted.
She said, he bolted. It was good. It was nice

(26:59):
to focus on everything in the future. And she asked him,
what's the future for you, and he said, my focus
is on this year. I'm just focused on us winning
a national championship. Oh man, I just I feel bad
for him because being in there in that room. First
of all, he's in that room with the ACC Commissioner
who was meeting this week to discuss takings Callan Stanford,

(27:21):
which would have been the end thing, but because there
was a school shooting at University of North Carolina, they
just canceled it. So now he's in a room with
brett Or Mark who robbed him, yes, right, yeah, Pattiti,
who took the two that Kevin Warren started to negotiate
with in Oregon and Washington. And he's there with Jim Phillips,

(27:45):
who is in the process of ending potentially the PAC
twelve altogether, of delivering just the final little flick, because
there doesn't need to be a death blow, just a
little flick. And I mean for him to be in
the room with those people who like the vultures who
already picked his bones clean.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
So what this wild? So is he allowed to say
anything in the meeting? If if, if people bring up
something and and he's like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, Well,
now how about this? And then like, bro, when he started.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
When he starts talking, when he starts talking, you'd hear
people's eyes roll because they all roll at the exact
same time.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Bro, Like why are you here? Like that's what that's
what it has to be, is like, bro, why are you?
Why are you here?

Speaker 3 (28:30):
I would be uh? And I feel bad because we
spent a lot of time on this podcast defending George Klekov,
but it is what it is now. I just feel like,
is that what we should do? Why don't you get
up here and present? Why don't you just take over?
Since you probably have?

Speaker 2 (28:44):
You got all the answers? Did you got all the answers?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Now?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I will say though I don't completely blame George Khalikov
like I do Larry Scott, because he was putting a
tough spot and as you see, the conference was worth
well over thirty million dollars a piece. Yeah, but the
networks wanted ownership and they weren't going to go away.

(29:13):
So it was either take less than you should get,
which is which they were right really for turning it down.
But then when you turn out it was Plato or Plumo,
they tried to give you silver, you didn't want it,
so you had to take the lay at Buddy.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Man, I don't know. I just I feel like he's
probably not having a good time today.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yep. We did find out though, So the twelve team
format which is supposed to go into place next year,
that there is obviously issues now because it was going
to be a six plus six the sixth highest ranted
ranking Power five champions plus the so is gonna be

(30:00):
the five Power fives, a group of five and then
the highest ranked group of five and then six at
large bids. Well, now people are saying, I don't know
if there are six power Power five. I don't know
if there are five Power five conferences. Now does the
PAC twelve still get an automatic bid with with four
teams and maybe two bro, that's a that's a legitimate question.

(30:25):
Or is it gonna be five plus seven? Like how
is this gonna work? So I would not be surprised
if this doesn't take a wild turn soon.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
We've we've put ourselves back into like BCS formulas.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Oh yep, m M, well sort of where. But listen,
I just think that the conference has put itself in
a in a bad spot. Dude, they it and now
you're not even going to have the availability that you
were looking for. And that's gonna suck. That's gonna suck

(31:10):
at every level. So oh but the other thing that
came out of it is is that players are going
to get a stipend. That players are now going to
get a stipend for their family. So one hundred and
twenty five players from the teams are going to get

(31:34):
three thousand dollars to make sure that their families can
travel to the games. I love it. I love it.
I think that that's great because I'll never forget when
the coach of Houston Basketball right now, when he was
crying talking about how he's had families call him, talking about, man,

(31:55):
we want to come to the tournament, but we can't afford.
We'll we'll we'll sleep on floor in his room. Anything like, Nah,
we can't, we can't do it blah blah blah, and
you have them making billions of dollars for other people
and their families can't even come watch them play. So
this change was necessary, and I love it.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
I agree, I agree, I agree, I think anything. I mean,
it's it's all short of the ultimate goal, which is
that as the size of the pie exponentially increases year
over year. You know, we went from when there was
one head coach making over a million dollars a year,
that was Steve Spurrier at the time. Twenty years later
the highest salary was Nick Saban making a little over eleven,

(32:40):
which means that by the year I don't know, like
twenty thirty seven, it could be fully reasonable at that
rate of inflation to have our first fifty million dollars
per year coach. Like that, that is the rate at
which things are growing over a forty year span. To
know that the slice that is afforded to the players
could be essentially the same as what it was twenty

(33:02):
years ago, thirty years ago, forty years ago. Is going
to get more and more glaring, and the NCAA is
going to be in a position like it was with nil,
where instead of trying to get ahead of the curve.
They're trying to catch up with it. And I mean,
you've had Jim Harbaugh this this week come out and

(33:23):
talk about the fact that he wants players to share
in the revenue. And I think more coaches are going
to have to do that, because as long as Jim
Horrod Harbaugh stays in college football, even if they don't
institute revenue sharing, he's gonna be viewed as the ally
you want. You're gonna want to go play for him.
So you're gonna see more and more coaches jump on
this train, for sure, until Clemson's coach depos when he

(33:44):
finally revers his course and decides that he likes getting
paid two billion dollars a year in the ACC and
that it's okay if his kids can afford payment on
a Toyota Corolla.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeh. Next thing up is the college football they have
put they have returned their returning starters their returning starters graphic.
So if you look Colorado at three with the least
amount according to this graphic, Utah with sixteen, cow with

(34:19):
sixteen USC and Oregon and Washington at fourteen, Oregon State
at twelve, UCLA Arizona and Arizona State at eleven, Washington
State at ten, in Stanford at six, and I'm like,
is this accurate, Ralph?

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Well, first of all, Colorado's is higher than I thought
it'd be. I know me too, I didn't know they
had three starters returning. Yeah, yeah, I mean I think
that there should be like a slot for returning starters
from other teams, so like twenty seven returning starters.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
When you can only have twenty two spots on the field.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
But I mean it seems to be in direct correlation
with the teams that people think are going to challenge
for the for the for the Pactal title, except for well, yeah,
we'll see. We'll see. We'll see what it means for
cal it so much is resting on their oc higher
but it's not even funny. But we'll see. They were

(35:29):
competitive defensively last year.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yep, they so we shall see what's up with that.
But there's there's another thing before we get to the games.
This this week you had Nick Saban not put out
a depth chart. And I really started paying attention to

(35:58):
depth charts more when Mark Christobaul was was an organ
because they used to all make me laugh because everything
was or yeah, or or or or or and you're like,
wait really, or man, come on. But Nick Saban is
not putting one out because he says it's a distraction
to his players and not good for their like, you know,

(36:23):
mental emotional health.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
The fact that you agree with them, I'm gonna I'm
gonna preempt you and point out the fact that the
fact that you agree with this is wild to me. Why,
I don't know, I just it just feels like, who is.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
The depth chart for? Though you? It is that you.
You You have to remember that everybody in the locker
room knows what the depth chart is. Everybody in the
locker room knows. You don't have to print out a
depth chart for everybody to know who's in what position.
Everybody knows. In practice, Bo Nicks goes first, Tyg Thompson

(37:06):
goes second. Novasak, who was at and this is at Oregon,
who was competing and it was a close competition for
the number two spot. He goes third. Bo gets the
most amount of reps, ty gets the second most amount
of reps. Novasak gets the third amount of reps. If
there are any left at the wide receiver position, same thing,

(37:28):
running back position, same thing, or you know what situations
that you play with packages that you play, So why
do so? Who's the depth chart really for? Ralph gets
for people playing fantasy college football for the other team.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Entertainment consumption that only exists because people are consuming it
for entertainment. This isn't a thing that would be going
on if people on the outside weren't interested in it.
I'm gonna wave it just random people want to spend
their weekend.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
I understand that.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Do they do this at the NFL level?

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yes, they do it at the NFL level.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
So we're worried about the feeling of the young men,
but not the feeling of the professional man.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
So the feeling is, well, these kids aren't professionals, they're amateurs,
so we need to protect them a little bit more
because Oregon's doing it too, Dan Lanning's doing it too,
and you know all these other coaches are gonna follow suit.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Well, see, I think it's bigger than that. I think
what it is is that these coaches are trying to
keep their players out of the transfer portal because when
you put out a depth chart, people are gonna have
more questions and be like, oh, my god, why is

(38:48):
he behind this guy? And why is that? You need
to get up out of there. They don't respect you
because there's an there's an element of public embarrassment by
not being at the top of the depth chart, and
it causes a distraction. It caused it. It does cause
a distraction within the team because depth charts. Depth charts

(39:11):
feel final to players, even at the beginning of season.
They feel like there's a a finality to it and
don't realize like, yo, it's football. Stuff happens all the time.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Wes up too much then, because even being on a
depth chart is awesome, even seeing your name and number
four fullback is awesome.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
It doesn't feel awesome when you're when you're the person
who's fourth on that depth chart, unless you wear a
walk on it does not feel good.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Where is though, man telling the telling the game operation
stadium crew not to replay stuff on the jumbo tron
if somebody drops a pass.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
No, that's different because you are in the game and
he's just talking about locker room management. So I don't
blame him. I do think that it is that people
will need to grow up and that you have to
do it. But you've got to remember that these kids
are faced with a lot more public scrutiny now, and
you have people in their dms, Oh my god, you

(40:13):
suck your third on it like it's just it's just
another way for people to attack them. So I understand
where Nick Saban is coming from. Some people are going
to think that that's coddling players, and all it is.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
It is here's the deal, Nick Saban. Nick Saban said
that the hardest thing of the last few seasons has
been when that depth chart comes out. Then the locker
room gets hard to manage because of this situation of
college football and the fact that people reach out, oh,
I see your number three. You come out here, you
be number one right like.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
YOUA and in other packs nil stuff too, because because
people who've signed kids to deals.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Want them to play.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, and they're like, oh, why is he second or
third on the depth chart? And I'm paying this and uh,
you know, I'm one of the boosters. And yet that's
what I'm saying, is that is that the field is
gonna tell it, so you don't have to put it out.
You don't have to put it out.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Here's what it feels like to me. You remember the
other day when you were like you tweeted like, how
come hotels can give us instant hot water but my
house can't? Yes, okay, did you ever think that you
grow up being worried about something like that when you
were in Memphis as a kid?

Speaker 2 (41:28):
No?

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Right? That so that I Nick Saban's team and situation
is so damn good. He got so much money, he's
got so many accolades that all he has time to
do is sit here and worry about little stuff like this.
I'm sure he never in a million years when he
was at Michigan State.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Thought that the depth chart was gonna be a problem.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Yeah, that he was gonna have to protect his own
players from the list of who is playing.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah, listen, I think it's I.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
And he and he took a shot at the media
when he announced this. He took a shot at the
media saying, I know you guys don't focus on the game.
You only focus on the depth chart, which is the
real dick thing to say. And I want to say that,
as sacrilegious as it is to say that Nick Saban
can be soft, he is being soft.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
No way, what are you kidding me? Well, see weigh.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Usel has filtered its way into his emotional processing.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Wow, you guys can weigh in. I'm mad at unafraid
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Speaker 3 (42:37):
He is the only email you get it from him,
and he's upset.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Dude, I understand his line of thinking, I'm not mad
mad at it. If I were a head coach, I
would consider, like, whom am I kinda put out a
depth chart to the public. I don't know, And that'd.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Be like not putting numbers on the side of a
swimming pool public swimming pool, Like, oh for how depth?

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah? No, no, well we don't know.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Kids don't want to swim because of where the number
that says twelve, and they think they might drown. So
we're just gonna take the numbers right off the side
of the pool.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
That'll fix the problem. Yeah, all right, onto the games
because we have a full slate of games this weekend,
so we gotta fly.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Exhausting, It is exactly non conference is exhausting. Yes, it
really is, because we watch every game.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yep. So first things up, PAC twelve is already one
to no congratulations, Actually, are we still I mean I
can't Yeah, I still am back to pack for this
year though.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Yeah, George Kleiakov is out there in Dallas trying to
figure out how to win US a national championship.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
So love it.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
I guess we are too.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Love it all right. So you have Utah getting Florida
at their home. This time they gotta come to Rice
Eco Stadium. It's totally different. I bet you they think
the swamp is the greatest place of all time. They're
gonna go into Rice Echoes and they're gonna be like,
oh my god, this is just like this is just

(44:12):
like the Hill Stadium.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Yeah, it's a You got a frigerator and a mini fridge, get.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Cold, both gets cold. Then they both got a freezer,
except for the one in Utah, because you know them,
them mini fridge freezers always freeze up. They always end
up with ice in them. So might be a little
bit colder in the many fridge, Buddy, is gonna be rough?

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Elevation of Jacksonville or Gainesville that area?

Speaker 2 (44:41):
You probably zero?

Speaker 3 (44:45):
What do you think it is in salt like one
hundred and ninety feet above sea level Jacksonville?

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Yeah? Zero.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
I think Salt Lake City might be higher than Denver. No,
it's not it's forty three hundred, So they got they
got about a four thousand foot elevation.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
That's a significant thing, bro a little bit. Yeah, you're
gonna have some cramps in game one, except for the
kids from Utah. And so there's no Anthony Richardson this
week because he's because he plays for the Colts. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Got Wisconsin's Graham Mertz taking snaps with my guy Jack
Miller as a backup in Florida.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Oh, are you encourages Are you encouraged by this by.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
What Graham Mertz being the quarterback of the Gators. Yes, no,
I mean Florida struggled offensively last year with one of
the best duel threats I've ever seen in my life.
Like one of the best athletes. Please do not take
this as a comparison, one of the best athletes in

(45:51):
the backfield since Cam Newton as far as like size, speed,
arm strength. Obviously Cam Newton did twice as much, one
twice as much. You know, both of them still end
up picked in the first round. But but you are
changing that out for Graham Mertz, a you know, cerebral
pocket passing, big ten guy. And so that's gonna be

(46:14):
a drastic shift in what billion Apier is trying to do.
Maybe it'll be better, Maybe it'll be better, But it
was Anthony Richardson that killed Utah last year and a
late interception from Cam Rising Utah probably should have won
that game. Yes, for being honest, yea is Cam Rising playing?
I feel like he is, But like I do the line,

(46:36):
how much has that line changed? The line on this game?

Speaker 2 (46:38):
So it opened at nine and a half for Utah,
now it's four and a half.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
I think it'll be close. If camp I'm I'm gonna
qualify this, but obviously my pick's my pick. If Cam
Rising plays, I like him to win by six or seven.
So I'm gonna I'm gonna take Utah.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I'm taking Utah. I'm taking Utah and the over they
overs forty four and a half.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Uh yeah, I'm I'm with you on that. I think
I think there's gonna be some scoring. There's been a
little bit more scoring in in Salt Lake City than
in years past, And I trust Bill Napier's a really
good offensive coach, like really good. So I think there's
gonna be some points scored. But I just don't know
if I trust that Florida's put it all together. Yet

(47:28):
we'll call it a revenge game. Did you see the
news report that Florida tried to poach Cam Rising in
the off season. They ended up with Graham Mertz at quarterback,
but they were going after everybody to try to get
a quarterback in there, and they went after Cam Rising
at Utah to try to see if you'd be willing
to transfer to Florida.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah, I mean, I guess you are supposed to kick
the tires on everything. Oh, that's that's so funny, kick
the tires. And then I looked at the KSL article
and it's kicked the tires.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Could you be walking into somebody else's garage and kicking
the tires on their car?

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Though? Yes, of course, of course, I'm saying, if you're
willing to come up, come over here and hang out.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
USC of the South.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Florida was desperate. So I mean, if we know anything
about Utah kids, I would have told you that unless
you were the amount of money to get Cam Rising
would have been not like the juice wouldn't have been
worth the squeeze.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
Didn't Dalton Kinkaid turned down like a million from Alabama. Yeah,
It's funny how this stuff keeps leaking out about coaches
reaching out to kids who are still on scholarship somewhere else. Well,
I don't think the UAB, Trent dilfrett ua be well,
I know some I know coaches at Michigan definitely reached
out to Arizona State kids. Well, they were still on
the roster, Like, okay, that's why I was able to

(48:53):
tweet out that an offensive lineman was going to Michigan
while he was still enrolled at ASSU. How would I
know that? But the uh, the Trent del Forer at
UAB went on a radio show and he's like, I
dare a coach to come get my kids. He's like,
I know every media member in the country, I'm gonna
read your DMS on the air. And he said, the

(49:15):
only reason the other coaches don't do that, and Pat
Pat Norducci has kind of done it a little bit
at pitt But the only reason other coaches don't do
that is because they want to be able to do
it themselves. Yeah, of course, I'm I'm curious to see
if Trent Dilfer actually follows through and dimes out coaches
in the media.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
No, you can.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
He's being naive like he's gonna be the one in
people's dms.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Yeah, everybody will be in somebody's DMS at some point. Well, actually,
DM in is a little too reckless. It's a phone call.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Usually, and people doing it. Then they gotta quit it.
They had to quit following players. Here's what coaches needed
they because you can now hide your likes. Elon Musk
is letting people who are have to blue or X
blue or whatever hide their likes. Right. You have to
not follow the prospects while they're still on a roster,
because this is how I was learning who who might go?

(50:10):
Where is? You're having assistant coaches follow players while the
season is still going on, and I keep track of
that stuff.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Mm yeah, that's a tailtale sign. Gotcha, gotcha, buddy, gotcha? Gotcha.

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Speaker 2 (50:37):
So we're both taking Utah minus four and a half
and I got the over. Are you taking it over
as well?

Speaker 3 (50:48):
I'm with you?

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yep? All right? Next game. Arizona State host Southern Utah.
That game is on PAC twelve network at seven pm.
There's there's no spread. Where should we set this spread?
At twenty seven six?

Speaker 3 (51:11):
What is five touchdowns? Is thirty five? Six touchdowns is
forty two? Should we split the baby?

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Okay, Now I have to do math thirty eight and
a half?

Speaker 2 (51:24):
All right, I'm I'm good with thirty eight and a half. Okay,
that's a lot of freaking points. It's a lot of
freaking points. And Southern Utah is terrible, yes, but I
oh gosh, I'm gonna take the under. Well well sorry,

(51:46):
not not the under. I'm gonna take Southern Utah in
a thirty eight and a half points.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Okay, I'll be on the opposite side, just to be contrary.
And the only real storyline from this is that Ray
Anderson came out sacrifice the bowl even though the NCAA
said they don't want people to miss bulls anymore. And
the reason that he had to do that is because
he missed every opportunity to give something up in previous years.

(52:13):
And uh, that's a that's a huge bummer. And it
looked like killing Kenny. You you tell me because you
followed Keny dolling Ham pretty closely to organ. He looked
pissed off when this happened. Yes, said he was old
six thirty in the morning on Sunday, that you weren't
going to be able to play in a bowl this
year when you have a game four days later. Yeah, yeah,
that was guard got a bunch of transfer. That was
garbage out this roster.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Super garbage bro like they they waited until kids couldn't like,
it's too close to where kids could bounce and still
get a waiver. Yeah, yeah, this was This was horrible
and Ray Ray Ray Anderson should not be athletic director.
I'm just I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
This is a I think this particular action, we'll call
it bum shit. He did some bum shit. So he
put out a statement saying the ASU was giving up
their bowl and they're not going to comment further. And
then they let Kenny Dillingham stand in front of the media,
and then Kenny Dillingham let his players stand in front
of the media. Then Kenny Dillingham got back in front
of the media on the next day and he said,
everybody needs to move on. We had one day to

(53:14):
complain about it. We got to move on, and right
then and then after he came out and said we
have to move on, ASU's athletic off his paniced because
the whole country is making fun of them for giving
up a bowl when the NCAA doesn't want anybody to
give up bulls. So after they said they were they
dropped a statement. They dropped a statement after they said

(53:34):
they weren't going to comment anymore. After Kenny Dillingham told
everybody to move on, they came out and said, we'll
look at Tennessee's case. Tennessee got enhanced fines and all
these recruiting penalties. We gave up a bowl because we
don't think we can handle the level of recruiting penalties
that Tennessee got. You have no evidence that they're going
to take this bowl and not give you those recruiting penalties.
You don't know, so they're guessing, And how are the

(53:57):
fans supposed to move on? When you said you wouldn't comment,
then your coach tell everybody to move on, and then
you come out and you want you have to defend yourself,
so you go back on your original word that you
won't gonna say anything. They are absolutely running a clown
show at Arizona State, and I, oh gosh, I hope
they go eleven and one, just eleven for two middle fingers.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Oh my gosh. Hey, the if ASU wins enough games
to win a bowl game, I will to make a
bowl game. ASU fans will never forgive him for this.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
They should have their own bowl like out in the
Street or something. Come up with their own bowl game.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
All right, so what do you have for what should
we set the over under as for this?

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Do you want to do over runners on these acting?

Speaker 2 (54:44):
No?

Speaker 3 (54:44):
No, yeah, let's skip the ones on the We'll set
a spread. We'll set all these spreads at like thirty
eight and a half for the for the Big Sky schools.
All right?

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Uh, Hawaii versus Stanford. That's on Saturday, and no, it's
on Friday. Excuse me? Stanford is Stanford opened at minus
ten versus Hawaii. They are minus three and a half points.

(55:12):
They're only given three and a half points versus Hawaii,
and the over under is fifty nine and a half.
I don't this is Troy Taylor's first soiree as Stanford
head coach. I have no idea what to make out

(55:34):
of this, Ralph, but I am going to just go
because it's Stanford. They should not be losing to Hawaii
and they shouldn't be winning by just a mere field goal.
So I am gonna go Stanford minus three and a
half because I refuse to believe that that they're bad.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
That I'm about that. I'll ride with you on Stanford.
And then here's the other pretty funny thing. You know
how you were laughing about the depth charts that say,
or yeah, this is Stanford's depth chart. Quarterback Ashton Daniels
or Justin Lampson or Ari Patu, running back E J.
Smith or Casey Filkins or Cedric Irvin or Ryan Butler.

(56:12):
Wide receiver one, John Humphries or Jason Rains wide receiver two,
Eric I Yeoman or or Bryce Ferrell wide receiver three,
Moodia Rubin or Tiger Bachmeyer. They ORed everybody, six receivers,
four running backs, three quarterbacks, everybody. The only thing they
have said is their own line.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
And wait and they're and their tight end.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
And they're yeah, yeah, he's very good.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Yeah. Yeah. They were like, we're not even gonna play
around here because nobody would believe that.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Yeah. But yeah, so that that made me laugh because
that I mean, that's just overboard stupid from Troy Taylor.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Yeah too much or or or or.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
All right, buddy, what's over under on this one?

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Fifty nine and a half under. I'm gonna go with
the under two. Well, how are we in agreement so much?
Next game up? I couldn't. Why am I so excited
about a game that I know what's going to happen? Well, partially,
TCU has a new quarterback and all that. So if
if Max Duggan was a back, I wouldn't even be

(57:18):
thinking about this. Oh my god. The line TCU versus Colorado.
This game's on Fox at nine AM on Saturday. TCU
is favored by twenty and a half points. Ralph twenty
and a half points. What is going on here?

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Well, one team just played in the National Championship and
one team had to replace literally everyone, So I mean
it's a fair line. They can't just Deon's hype can't
affect the actual numbers.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
That has to get it to where people are betting
on both sides.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Bro twenty and a half Okay, So TCU. According to
Pick six previews, they were picked fourth in the conference,
behind Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas State, now, I don't know how
good Oklahoma's gonna be, but that's a whole nother story.
But TCU, though last year they beat Colorado by twenty

(58:22):
five points in the beginning of the season thirty eight
to thirteen, twenty five points, they played a lot of
close games last year because their defense was atrocious. Yeah,
Colorado plus twenty and a.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Half, wooing. I'm on TCU. I'd have been comfortable at
twenty seven and a half. I don't know if you saw,
but Tom louganbil came out and basically said what we
said on this podcast or what I said on this
podcast last week, like two and ten is reasonable and
the O line and D line are garbage. So Deon
Sanders didn't like that. By the way, he called Tom

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lougan bill out. I told him to come to practice.
But yeah, I don't think I think this is gonna
be one of the most talented teams in the Pac
twelve in spots, but I don't think it's enough to
put it all together right away. I think Deon's going
to do really special things, it's just not going to
happen in the Pack twelve. So I'm gonna ride with
TCU UH, and also want to mention that Joel Klatt

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also put some content out this week uh calling out
the NCUBA for not approving.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Yeah, Tyler Tyler tyler Y Brown.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
Yeah, his his transfer waiver, which is he made. I'm
not gonna make a point better than he made, but
he basically said, like, what kind of person doesn't have
the common sense if you if you are in a
position to hear an appeal, what kind of person doesn't
have the common sense to say like, this kid has
struggled a lot with his mental health over his college
football career and would be better served to be playing

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under Dion Sanders.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Man, It's terrible, dude, absolutely terrible, and now they're still
waiting on the kid from North Carolina to get his
his appeal heard. But yeah, this over under is sixty
one and a half over in every single spot. This

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feels like an easy over to me, Ralph sixty one
and a half. That's thirty one points apiece. There's not
gonna be enough defense played and played in this game
to stop anybody. They both teams are getting the thirty
points or more.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
I like it to be a total of sixty five,
so I will ride with you on that. And the
other thing I wanted to bring up from this is
did you see Travis Hunter's Heisman prediction? Yes, four Heisman finalists. Yeah,
he said we're actually like taking him seriously and telling
him he was an idiot.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Yeah, I mean it was himself, Shador Sanders, because for
him to be there, that means that your door pretty
much has to be there too. And then you have
Caleb Williams and who is the fourth Boone Nicks?

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
Yeah, I thought it was fun. I don't know why
anybody got upset by that. This is a this is
a future top five NFL pick having fun.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Yeah, I'm not mad at it. I just think that
they believe that they're gonna be better than they are
and then that they're gonna get humble real fast. But
the other part of it is if they win these
games though, if they start out like three and two,
Lord help us all insufferable yep, and they dudes, that

(01:01:47):
recruiting is gonna go crazy. Everybody's gonna be like, hey, baby,
we just getting started over here. What do you think
is gonna be like next year?

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Who you thought Jennie Johnny Minzel was famous just Inland
and then nationwide like Dion's already ten times more famous
than Manziel was. Dan like this, but I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Don't know if he'll let his players be famous. That's different.
That's yeah, that's different. All right. Next game up, Oregon
versus Portland State.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Mm hm.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
We said that we were gonna set it at thirty
eight and a half points. Damn, that's a lot of points.
I'm still taking. I'm taking Oregon minus thirty eight and
a half.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
I will ride with you on that as well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Yeah, Dad, that feels like a no brainer.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Portland State's quarterback is fun. He is a dual threat.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Okay, uh.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
I think he rushing last year?

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Sure? Here?

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Yeah? Yeah, I think his brother plays for the Cardinals.
He's an athlete. He's athlete. I think he had like
nineteen touchdoun passes last year and had like over seven
hundred yards rushing. So that'll give the defense a nice test.
It won't It won't be. I think that's important. I
think you want to actually get something out of these
big sky games that you wind up. Yes, yes, but
and the way that college football works, it might be

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his audition.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
He might be his audition to come right on down
that five freeway, buddy, because Oregon's going to take a
transfer after this year.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
They've done it before quite a few times, especially from
the Big Sky, so like, come.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
On, come on in, baby, come on in. Yeah, they
went to the Eastern Washington well won too many times though.
All right, Washington versus Boise State. This game's on Saturday,
twelve thirty. So oh, so you got the Oregon and
the Poise State game on it. I said, the Boise
State game.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
That's very funny.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
The Washington game on at the same time, twelve thirty.
Washington's favorite by fourteen and a half points. Yeah, this
is tough. So Andy avlos one and zero versus Washington.
As a defensive coordinator, the one was at Oregon, so
that ain't what he got at Boise State. Washington is

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known to kind of put up some duds every now
and then, but everybody believes that this team is so good,
so good, so good. They have a first round wide receiver,
Michael Pennett's at quarterback. They are going to Ah, Lord

(01:04:30):
have mercy, who are you going with with this? Fourteen
and a half points?

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Uh? Boise is such like classically, they're so good at
preparing for these early season opponents, And I don't know
if Washington's defense is trustworthy yet. And Boise has George
Hollane in like his fifth season in college foot we
have so many of these players in his fifth season
in college football, he's already rushed for over a thousand

(01:04:57):
yards twice, five hundred and fifty in his college career,
already averaging five yards of rush. So I think boise
will hold the ball. I do, And I think it'll
be an awesome test for this defense that's supposed to
have elite pass rushers to see if they can actually
bottle up the run against a running back who has

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been doing this since pre COVID, like he's been eating
up yards since since before COVID. So I think I I'm
gonna take Boise State. I think it'll be a fourteen
point win. That half a point I think is the killer.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Now their defense gave up points. Yeah, I believe their
defense is gonna give up points this year. Boise States
quarterback is a good athlete, all right. I'm gonna go
with Boise State plus fourteen and a half, even though
I do believe that they're gonna lose this game. Now

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over under sixty.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Over I'm gonna go for what is that seventy?

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
No, yes, yes, that's seventy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
I'm taking the over.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the over as well. Yep. Yeah,
over makes it makes it stick a like let's go yep.
North Texas versus Cow on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
In in Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Yes, yes, Cows favored by ninety and a half points.
Now interesting, for four of the five North Texas oppositive
linemen are under three hundred pounds.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
That is wild. What wow, that could be a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Yes, yes, I am going to go with Cal minus
nine and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
I will take them as well. I am fascinated to
see if, if, if they can recapture some of the
sunny Dyke's glory bringing their o C back.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Take it brother and over under fifty eight and a half.
It's still col now under under, I don't trust CAW
to score points until Cal shows they can score points.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Twenty four to tens of winner, thirty five to tens
a winner.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Yeah, exactly. All of those numbers feel like they make
a lot of sense. USC versus Nevada on Pack twelve
Network for the second time in a row for the
Heisman twinter winner Caleb Williams USC winner.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
That's it. That's the T shirt, Heisman twinter since he's
gonna get two. Oh damn, I like it all right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
USC minus thirty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Points hmmm, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
That's a lot of freaking points, bro, I mean, that's
a massive amount of points.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
And you know they're probably gonna give up some scoring,
so they gotta go thirty eight beyond thirty nine, beyond
whatever they give up. Yeah, I don't know, man. They
were throwing the ball in the fourth quarter up twenty.
They had me scared. They were they because they were
trying to get work for every quarterback. I'm gonna say no,

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I'm gonna say thirty five.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
I am going to agree with you. I'm gonna even take.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
Fifty five to twenty is like A is losing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Yep, exactly, So give me USC. Well, sorry to win
win the game, but I'm taking Nevada plus thirty eight
and a half. But I need that over. I need
that over. It's sixty three and a half. That feels
like a layup because worst case scenario, USC might damn

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near get you all the way to sixty three all
by themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
What do you think of Nevada naming Brendan Lewis their starter.
We saw him struggle at Colorado, and your boy, Sean
Dollars is going to be the starting running back. It's
a little bit of Pac twelve flavor in Reno.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
I hope that things go well for them in Nevada.
But they just lost their quarterback coach. Really, Nate Costa.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
That's late in the game to be losing your quarterback coach.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Yes, he resigned on August twenty second. Wo There was
nothing nefarious that went on, no scandal, no bad blood
with the coach.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
He had to spend all his money in you know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Now, hey man, sometimes you get a really good offer
that you don't feel like you can turn down.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
I love it. Good for him, Good for him. I'm excited.
I like Brandon Lewis, I like Sean Dollars. Here's another question.
Is this the last time us he's ever going to
be on Pack twelve network?

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
No. I think they have to be on there three
times throughout the throughout the year. So no. And the
funny part.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Is we're going to get the Grinch game again.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Yes, they are trying to get them out of the
way in the beginning of the season. Okay, So they'll
either put the So the Stanford game is on Fox
next week, and then then they're awful week and then
that Arizona, that Arizona State game will probably be on
Pack twelve network unless or the Colorado game, unless Colorado

(01:10:48):
is has won a couple games. Otherwise that game will
be on Pack twelve network and that'll be their last one.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
Okay, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
So yeah, like they will get Oregon out of the
way early too, and you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
Know, yeah over under sixty three and a half, oh over,
oh for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Yeah, we're not even not even talking about that Colorado
State versus Wazoo. Now, Colorado State they look better.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
They have.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
You know, Matt Mummy, the air raid system. They're gonna
throw about eight thousand times a game.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Yep. I just love that they have like a militant
head coach in Jane Orvel, but their finesse on offense.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Yeah, that's it, dude. When Jane Norvel shakes your shakes
your hand, he's trying to break it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
I believe you. I believe you. I remember when people
said that Charlie Strong was a disciplinarian. Yes, and he
didn't fit in at Texas because he's trying to bring
too much discipline. I heard that Jane Rvel left Charlie
Strong to go work for Todd Graham because Charlie Strong
wasn't disciplined enough.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
That's too much will Washington State's knew oc Ben Rbuckle.
How's that offense going to change? Because cam Ward has
to be better than he was last years in terms
of playing on time, because last year he wasn't playing
on time. He would hold the ball a lot. It

(01:12:27):
was like it was like Caleb Williams without the results.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Yeah, he did hold the ball. He made a couple
of really good throws. It's funny because like he had
an objectively above average year, but for Washington State it's
like the worst year they've ever seen at quarterback. So
he's really got to step up. They don't really have
much behind him, and you have a quarterback on the
other side and Clay Millan who is turning heads, and

(01:12:57):
you can't go out there. Cam Ward can't go out
there and let Clay Millan out shine him.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
He kiing, No, no, no, that would be a major
bad move. That'd be a bad move all the way around.
Are you surprised at well, Washington State, there's not a
lot of energy nationally about them, But yeah, do you

(01:13:23):
think that they can surprise and turn heads? Because this
spread started at fifteen and now it's sitting at at eleven.
Who you got Andy over unders at fifty nine and
a half?

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
All the money's going Colorado State's way. I think it's
because they started so slow last year. But I think
that if I think Ben Arbuckle could make the difference,
and they're really talented at running back. Really weird to
say that the strength of Washington State is the running
back room. So I'm gonna take Washington State. I'm not
a Colorado State believer yet, I think they get pasted
by at least twenty and I'll take the over on

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the fifty nine and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
I'm with you there too, my friend. And that game's
on Saturday on CBS Sports Network at four o'clock.

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Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Next game up Arizona at NAU Saturday, Pac twelve Network,
seven pm. There's no spread? Are you? Are you gonna
do like you did last last year when you picked
North Dakota State to beat Arizona, and I was like,
you're a fool. They almost did. No, almost only counts

(01:14:41):
and horseshoes and hand grenades. Buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
It sounds so weird to say this, but like NAUS or,
Arizona's been waiting for this game for two years, just
counting down, grinding their teeth, pissed off.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Counting down to a game against NAU. I don't think
that's good. Yeah, me tell you. I don't think that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Here's what I know about NAU. They're full of Arizona kids,
so you know, and so is Arizona. You know how
I feel about that. Chris Ball is a head coach
at NAU, and there's rumors that if they don't do
something this year, they're gonna clean house. And I think
their coaching staff is super talented, and he does have
under his belt a win against Arizona, which is like
the first and one hundred years. I think they're gonna

(01:15:24):
get wrecked in this game. I think Arizona's gonna be
throwing up fifty in the third quarter. I really do
that is This is not how Jetfish wanted his tenure
to start out losing to Nau, and I think it
really put him behind the eight ball as far as
the excitement that could have been out there. But the
funny thing is two years before that, Nau dropped like

(01:15:47):
forty five points on Kevin someone. So this has been
pretty goofy the last couple of times. I think Arizona
puts it to bed really early, and so I'll take
the thirty eight and a half because if they don't win,
it's gonna be just torturous to have flag Staff have
the upper hand on Tucson.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Listen, Arizona State is gonna knock their doors off. Thirty
eight and a half too many points. Too many points
give me Nau, Okay, I just, I just I just
think that the amount of points is just absurd. And
Arizona's backups aren't as good as other teams backup, So
they may they may, you know, they may be up

(01:16:26):
by forty two and then win by thirty five.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Yeah, I think that, But there's not a single What's
crazy is Nau's got really really tall defensive backs against
t mact's not gonna matter. So I I would love
to see him go out there score three times in
the in the opening game. That'd be fantastic, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Uh, Ucla versus Coastal Carolina on Saturday, seven thirty pm.
Ucla is favored by fourteen and a half points and
the over under a sixty seven and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
That's a lot of points.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Chase Garber's, Dante More and the kid from and the
other quarterbacks Shale are all going to play. According to Chip,
even though Chase Garber's is gonna start.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
Kind of weird. We talked about that a lot last week.
I don't think he knows. You said that he probably
has a feeling. I don't think he knows.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
He knows who. Listen, he knows who he thinks it's
going to be. He normally doesn't play more than one guy.
He's gonna do it again. I mean he's gonna do it.
Gonna give them a little bit of time and then
he'll make a decision. That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Yeah. I don't love anything about the spread or the
over unders. So I'm gonna go both. I'm gonna go
against Ucla on both sides. I'm also fascinated that Tim Beck,
who has been an assistant under everyone. He's been a
college assistant for twenty four years he's co He's been
the head coach to three different high schools, but he's
been an assistant for twenty four years. He helped North

(01:18:05):
Carolina State run a really great offense with Devin Leary
the last few years. I think he got ran out
of Texas and he had some time in Nebraska. He's
been everywhere. This is his first time as a college
head coach, first time he's been coaching since the eighties,
and he's taken over for Chadwell who went to Liberty.

(01:18:28):
And the expectations that Coastal Carolina is going to keep
that offense going, This is a different offense. So I
don't know if I trust Coastal Carolina either, but I
definitely don't trust UCLA at this point in the season.
So I'm taking Coastal Carolina plus four and a half
and the under.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
All right, give me UCLA plus the points. I do
believe that they're going they like. They have a history
of starting slowly, and I wouldn't put that past them.
But it is a different regime over there Coastal Cara
Carolina and UCLA's defense has gotta be better. It just

(01:19:08):
has to be. And this this over under feels a
little bit tight for me. Feels a little bit tight
because if I'm gonna take the under, that means UCLA's
defense is gonna have to play pretty well, you know,
I mean like that, like that they're not gonna be
able to give up win forty two to twenty eight.

(01:19:30):
If that would be a cover.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
A DC who's never ever been a DC before.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
Yes, exactly, So I'm gonna take the over just in
case UCLA. You know, their defense is not where it
needs to be to start the game.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
And we got a Sunday game.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Yes, San Jose State versus Oregon State still be on
a visit. Then Oregon State's favored by sixteen and a
half points. USC just beat this team by twenty eight
point Oregon State's defense should be better, but Santose State
has some dudes. I'm still taking Oregon State though, and

(01:20:13):
the under of fifty six.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
And the under Wow, Okay, I love about this game
that Chavon Cordio has already played against USC. So we're
gonna get some comparative analysis, which is always fun. Chevon
Cordero is like a super duper senior, so good luck.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Not even just a super senior he's had a.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
Super duper senior for duper senior.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Can he wasn't even in danger of throwing a pick?

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
No, no, no, he I thought he looked great. I
really did. Dju Are you excited to He's got three receivers.
The starters are all under six foot, so it's gonna
be throwing down at them. He's gonna be like Adam
Sandler and Billy Madison throw dodgeballs at kindergartener's.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Yeah. Oh h. Pete Samill put out a tweet, Uh,
this was today. He was on ESPN less than two
hours ago, and he said that here's our update on
Utah quarterback Cam Rising, whose sources told ESPN it's doubtful
to play against Florida tomorrow. That's coming from the themill man, who.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
He knows his stuff. That is a bummer. Well so
we what were we were? We both went with Utah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
Yep at four and four and a half. I believe.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
Let's let it ride. I'm let it ride.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
I'm letting. I'm letting it ride too, all right? Yeah,
So who are you taking? San Jose State? Oregon state
sixteen and a half over under fifty six.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
I'm going to take Oregon State and the over.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
I am going to take Oregon State and the under.
I am excited to see what dj Ui Angalle is
going to be able to do, if we're gonna see
Aiden Childs playing as well, if he's gonna get a
little bit of reps in this game too, is particularly
if it gets a little bit out of reach. I'm excited.

(01:22:38):
I'm actually super excited to see this Oregon State team
in general. This could be one of the last times
that we see them, I mean, put together a team
that's super good like this because they may be not
a Power five conference, So enjoy it while at lasts
I hope that it doesn't come, you know, at a

(01:22:58):
bad time, you know what I mean. Like, I hope
that they're able to respond and be Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
All right, So on our way out, pick the pick
who you think will be the player of the week.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
Okay, So the player of the week is not gonna
come from Arizona or from Oregon Yeah, yeah, or Arizona
State because they're playing FCS teams. I'm gonna go with Okay,

(01:23:40):
they're not gonna want to give it to Caleb Williams. Yeah,
I'm gonna go Caleb Williams versus Nevada.

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
Okay, and I would agree with you that you shouldn't
give it to anybody that plays against a big Sky
opponent unless it's a revenge game. So Ted Royal McMillan,
you are going to be the PAC twelve player of
the week.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
What absolutely not absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Five hundred and sixteen yards receiving four touchdowns. It's gonna
be great.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
Okay. So before we get out of here, I want
to go over one thing. So the the blue chip
ratios came out for twenty twenty three, and that is
the teams who sign the percentage of your roster that
is four and five star kids over the last four classes.

(01:24:37):
So history says that no team has won a national
championship without a blue chip ratio over fifty percent. Okay, nobody,
and that started in twenty and thirteen. Now, of course,

(01:24:59):
you've had teams like Wisconsin, Baylor, Michigan State, TCU, Utah, SINCI,
and TCU all make the champion or make the playoff
in the last decade. Well, the problem with that is
is that they've all pretty much gotten their doors knocked
off when they got to play somebody who had a
high blue chip ratio. Now it's not a measure of

(01:25:26):
can you make the playoffs or not, it's just can
you win the national championship or not. So, for instance,
in twenty twenty two, Georgia had a seventy seven percent ratio.
In twenty twenty one they had an eighty percent ratio,
and then and they actually beat the team that had
the number one blue chip ratio in Alabama. Now and

(01:25:51):
three of the four playoff teams in twenty twenty one
were blue chip ratio teams except for Cincinnati, who was
the first crash of the party since twenty seventeen. Twenty
twenty Alabama eighty three, nineteen, LSU sixty four, Clemson sixty one.

(01:26:11):
Alabama in twenty seventeen eighty percent. Clemson did it with
fifty two percent as well. So it's you know, so
now all high school and JUCO signees are counted. Walk
ons are not siginees, so they do not count. Now,

(01:26:32):
so how many PAC twelve teams do you think have
a blue chip ratio of fifty percent zero? There are two?
There are two, yes, because one of them fell out
last year. And so it is Oregon at sixty seven
percent and USC at fifty two percent, and guess who

(01:26:58):
has the highest? This the highest I've ever seen before
in my life. And remember Georgia had seventy seven percent
last year.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
Okay, Well, I figure you brought it up because it's
Dan Lanning.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
No, no, no Landing. I just told you Oregon organ
has sixty.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
Seven Okay, organized scent is it? Is it? Use USC
borrowing from.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
USC has fifty two percent? Fifty two percent. But I'm saying,
who do you think is the number one of all
the college football oh.

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
In the whole country? I was thinking back to all Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
And I told you Georgia last year had seventy seven percent.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
Okay, Uh, I'm gonna say, with the heater they've been on,
is it Texas?

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Nope?

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
It is okay?

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
Now, now mind you, is the average over to well, sorry,
it's over the last four classes.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
Penn State.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Nope, Penn State's only a fifty five percent. It is
the Universe City of Alabama.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
Well, yeah, there's that. That's trying to be smarter than
the question.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Ninety percent, Ralph ninety ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
That's why he's out here crying about the dipth Churir.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Ninety percent. And then Ohio State is number two at
eighty five percent.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
Nick Saban has to worry about his player's feelings like
ancient Greeks had to worry about pissing off the gods.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
Dude, ninety percent, that is unreal. And Ohio State's two
at eighty five percent. Georgia is number three at seventy
seven percent, Texas a and m seventy three percent at
number four. Hey, the only one thing can be wrong
there if you got all that talent coach Clemson at

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number three, seventy two, LSU seventy one, Texas at seventy,
Oklahoma at seventy, Oregon at sixty seven, Notre d at
sixty five, Florida at sixty four, Miami at sixty one,
Penn State at fifty five, Michigan at fifty four, USC
at fifty two, and Auburn at fifty one. So those

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are the teams that you get to pick to win
a national championship.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
Ralph Okay, but well then, how is it going to
be Colorado? Then I thought it was gonna be Colorado.
I thought that that was the key, was just bring
theonen and you win.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
No, dude, so give me in the So now give
me your playoff predictions before.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
Yes, okay, well it's still four teams, right, yep, still
twelve yet. Yeah, so the two teams that don't play anybody.
So Michigan's going to be there, Georgia is going to
be there. It's gonna be a second SEC team. I'm

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gonna get cute and say that this year that second
SEC team will be Alabama. I'm just kidding. I'm not
gonna get cute. Uh. And then let's throw USC in there.
So USC, Alabama, Georgia, Michigan.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
Oh my god, that's terrible. All right, what.

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
Arrow is all those teams like ranked in the top
five going into the season.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
Uh, pretty much. Give me Alabama, give me Ohio State,
give me Oregon, and give me Notre Dame, because Notre

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Dame is gonna take USC out and Oregon's gonna beat USC.
So that's two lost its Sai yinara. Alabama's going to
beat Georgia in the SEC championship, but beat them in
in a way that they're not going to be able
to get into the playoffs. And Ohio State's going to
beat Penn State and beat Michigan, and Penn State's gonna

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beat Michigan too. But then mich But then Penn State's
going to lose another game besides too, Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
All right, George Reister noted Kyle McCord, believer, we're putting
it in now. I think they made the wrong decision
not starting Devin Brown. But that's because I am.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
A what Arizona homer. Well, you guys, those are our
picks before the season starts. Ralph, will you keep track
of our playoff picks too?

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
Ye?

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Yes, yes, because I just want to be able to
come back and be like yo, I called it all right.

Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
Well now I'm definitely not gonna let you forget that
you put Ohio State in there.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Yep, please, oh please please don't. All right, peace out,
Catch you guys next week.