Pac-12 Apostles - Week 6

On this week's episode of the Pac-12 Apostles podcast, George Wrighster and Ralph Amsden break down the five conference games from the last week and preview the Pac-12 Network-heavy week six slate. Plus, the guys talk about Pat McAfee trying to ignite a rivalry with Washington State fans, and Utah players all getting brand new pick up trucks as part of an NIL deal

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans. This one's
for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles and only
the Truth lives here. Packed twelve Apostless.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Amsden, and this is the
Pac twelve Apostles, the final season, not of this podcast,
but of the name of this podcast, because I guess
we gotta change it, or should we do like the
Washington Commanders or something like that, and just be like, listen,
we're just we're just keeping this name no matter what

(00:37):
the hell happens.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
I don't. You're It's like you came into the room
and my husband just died and I have his last name,
and you're like, you're gonna change it now. It's not
the time.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
All right, Well, we will discuss that later, but you
guys can send us our future name suggestions to I'm Matt,
I Amma d at Unafraid show dot com or tweet
us at Pack twelve Apostles or yeah, you can leave
it in a review as well, and make sure that
you guys leave five star review reviews wherever you listen

(01:18):
to podcasts, and of course engage with us. We will
hit you back you know what it is and most
importantly share the feed. But Ralph, we got a new review.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
We did, and for long time listeners of this podcast,
I just want to point out that I did like
the naturally sexist thing that George would have me do
and assume that, yeah, I know that's right. Assume that I,
as a woman in this scenario, would have changed my
last name instead of go with a what hyphenated last name?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Which yes, yes, yes, because you're the hyphenated king.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
I don't have a hyphenated last name.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, but you love players hyphenavid names.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
That's a coincidence.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's a hell of a coincidence. That's a lot of
times in a row, buddy, it's a few.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
It's a few. Shout out to former Washington Scout Team
quarterback Daniel Bridge. Gand so let me read our review.
It's an updated review, which I know that you'll appreciate.
George went from four stars to five. Yeah, buddy, and
it's from our guy Lang Cree, the University of Arizona fan.
He said, time for another of review. That is the title,

(02:31):
Time another of review. Okay, hey, gents, I appreciate the
acknowledgment of the last review. Despite my chippy and triggering comments,
I've enjoyed this podcast the last two years. Loved this
twenty Stuff podcast from the twenty seventh great discussions, and
I really enjoyed the Ap and Don conversation last week's podcast.

(02:51):
You guys are down to earth and for the most part,
really come at your analysis as true college football enthusiasts
overall and not Homer's. Don't get me wrong, I feel
the hate from ASU, Ralph and some Homerism, but my
posts and feelings match, so I have no footing to
stand on. With that said, forks were up for much
of the USC game, and I watched that. I watched

(03:12):
before I bailed. Some respect to give there. Keep up
the great work, and I'll be foolishly taking You have
a money line against the Huskies, banking on Noah getting
rid of the ball.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Oh my god, not the money line. Take the points.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
You you you bluffed that you're going money line Arizona
last week and then pulled out of it.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Oh so that was one hundred percent bluff that had
no like real thought of actually doing that.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Oh can I tell you when I stopped hating University
of Arizona? Okay, when it was when my oldest son
was born, Like the day he was born. I would
love to say that it was like, oh, I really
realized by.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
A Tucson doctor.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I actually think his doctor was it was a U
of A and so that was part of it.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
A Tusonise doctor.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
I would love to say that it was like I
looked in my son's eyes and saw there's no more
room for hate in this world, only love. But the
truth is like his doctor went to University of Arizona,
and like the moment he was born, it was kind
of kind of like you with with Damon. I'm like, well,
if you wants to offer my skin of scholarship, I'm
not gonna get in the way like you. Okay. And

(04:27):
at the time, at the time they were the only
school in Arizona with the medical school. But now as
U and NA you were getting one. So maybe it's
time to rev up to the hate speech a little
bit when it comes. I don't I'm I'm not big
on the I'm not big on the rivalry, and I
haven't been for like the last fifteen years. I want

(04:48):
everybody to lose just University of Arizona.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Nice. Oh all right, So let's start with the A
people again this week, and we are going to keep
banging this drum until there is change. And this week
it was I cannot for the life of me, and

(05:12):
I understand why because there have been responses. I've talked
offline to some writers or some two voters specifically, and
they stated why some people, why some of the voters
are starting to change because of a little bit of
the pressure, and why some are resisting change. So number

(05:38):
one is part of the reason why they're resisting change
is that these voters are essentially not not beat writers.
But how would you describe it, Ralph?

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, that for the most I think for the most part,
they're they're either like sports editors or beat writers.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, for a specific school slash conference like for instance,
John John Wilner is with the PAC twelve, so his
focus for watching games is largely going to be PAC twelve.
So if he has the so if he is faced
with watching in the same time slot, watching you know,

(06:23):
uh error Stanford versus Arizona State, he has to error
towards that as opposed to watching Georgia play. He would
of course they're watching you know, stat lines, and they're
watching you know the ticker at the bottom and all
of that, but there is and I'm not talking specifically
about John, but I'm just saying just in general that

(06:46):
they're largely watching and dissecting even deeper the teams and
the conferences that they cover specifically, and so there's not
a lot of room, especially with the deadlines high and
all of that, to necessarily watch all of the rest
of the team's play. So it's easier for them to

(07:06):
lean into the all right, look, we'll we'll, we'll just
move up, move down based upon who won and who lost. Well,
this week it was USC who took another hit and
USC went down one spot flopping sports spots with Oregon,
while Georgia struggled. I mean, they needed a brock Bauers

(07:30):
herculean effort in the end of the game to save
them from ending up in overtime against a wash against
a Auburn team that scored fourteen points against Tech Cow
Well that game was fourteen ten if I remember correctly.
And Auburn's not particularly good this year. Their quarterback situation

(07:51):
is untenable. They threw for eighty two yards in the
game and had Georgia in an absolute headlock so, but
Georgia won't, and people are saying, well, they they they're
the two time champs. You got to knock them off.
How are you supposed to knock them off? With this
schedule that they're playing number one and number two? This

(08:12):
is an entirely different season. You're supposed to be judging
on the information that you're given. But this this week, Ralph,
was the first time that I've seen this many teams
get votes. Thirty five of the sixty two went to Georgia.
Of first place votes, twelve went to Michigan, ten went
to Texas, one went to Ohio State, and four went
to Florida State. Ralph, have you seen that many teams

(08:36):
get first place votes before?

Speaker 3 (08:38):
No? No, And I do think that that is very cool.
I like that. But you know, we so we're talking about,
you know, the sixty two AP voters, and you know
the which ones are you know actually watching the PAC
twelve And you bring up Wilner and he has everybody

(09:00):
in the PAC twelve pretty much lower than everyone else
in the country. And he's the closest one too. He's
a friend of the show. We've had him on the
show many times. But that is just interesting to me
because I'm going through the ballots of everybody in the
PAC twelve footprint, he's the least kind. We have Michael
lev out of Tucson, who actually has four PAC twelve

(09:22):
teams in the top ten for the second week in
a row, with Washington State at ten and Washington as
high as four. But most of the voters out here
just are refusing to believe that the high end teams
in the PAC twelve could compete on a national stage
with the high end teams from other conferences. So you're
hearing that the PAC twelve is the deepest conference, but

(09:43):
they don't believe that the deep end of the pool
is as deep as SEC Big ten and things like that.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Oh Lord, have mercy, bro because and we're going to
see what happens this weekend. Because right now in the
Ape Pole, Washington is seven, Oregon eight, USC nine, then
Notre Dame ten, Alabama eleven, Then you got Oklahoma and
Washington State at thirteen. Right, So Alabama plays Texas A

(10:14):
and M this weekend. Texas and M is four and one,
but they are not ranked. If Alabama wins this game,
no matter how ugly, if they win win win this game,
because remember their only loss is to Texa, and M's
only loss is to Miami. Miami is sitting at seventeen.

(10:35):
So if Alabama beats Texas, A and M, do you
think do you believe that there is a chance that
they will jump over n C State. I'm sorry, Notre Dame,
who I believe plays Louisville this weekend, who's number twenty five?

(10:55):
Or Washington or Oregon who are off or USC who
plays Arizona.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
The majority of Alabama's votes are in the ten to
eleven range. Over half the voters have them in the
ten or or eleven range. Only four voters have them
in the top ten. And so, you know, do I
think that a majority of those voters would jump them
over a Washington or a USC or you know, yeah,

(11:28):
probably because you've seen USC drop two weeks in a
row after wins, So yeah, it would make sense to me.
There's only.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
So that's the question. Why is USC dropping? And after
they were dominating, the game came back to be a
close game and they won. Whereas like when Texas played
Wyoming going into the fourth quarter, it was a ten
to ten game.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Right against Wyoming's backup quarterback by the way.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, so there is, it's natural bias. But do you
think that that bias will change when Oregon, Washington, USC,
and UCLA are then in the Big ten because those
schedules broke. That's actually one thing, and the same thing
with those teams in the Big twelve. I'm actually looking

(12:19):
at this, Ralph, and I'm looking at There was an
article put out about Michigan's potential schedule for next season,
and I was shocked because the rumor is that they
want to get front load these schedules for the first
few years to really ramp up their television partners, increase

(12:39):
the money potentially early and you could have Michigan playing Washington, Oregon, USC,
and UCLA or at least three of those four plus
Ohio State as well, which would I mean, that would
be an unbelievable schedule.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
I agree, I agree, I do think. I do think
it matters where somebody is positioned. But I can also
throw out there that it's not just the PAC twelve
that I feel like is getting disrespected in this process,
but actually the ACC is kind of part of that
as well. You know, there are twenty four of the

(13:22):
sixty two voters that don't have Louisville as a top
twenty five team. Yeah, and so they come in at
twenty five and they're five and oh right, they're undefeated.
The games haven't looked all that good, but you know
there are still Compare that to Kentucky who is five
and oh and only has two people that believe that

(13:46):
they're not worthy of being in the top twenty five.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
And they want LSU to still be good, Bro, they
want LSU to still be good. They're three and two
at at twenty three. Bro, they got seven hundred yards
of offense put on them, yep.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
And you have people that have voted them. You have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight writers that voted them in the top nineteen. Eight
that put them in the top nineteen. That one that
believe the LSU who got wrecked wrecked by Old miss.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
I am wrecked by Florida State. Bro, they're two losses.
They got wrecked. That's not even dude, Dude, I would
put Clemson in front of them. Clemson didn't get wrecked
in their two losses. They lost to Duke and they
got uh and their second loss was to who.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Clemson also lost to Florida State.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yes, yes, Neither one of those was a wrecking but
LSU got wrecked. Come on, people, come on. But I
do think that there's a piece of information, which is
Washington State this week is sitting at four and oh
at number thirteen in the country. Ralph who was a

(15:09):
thirteen in the country last year at this time TCU, TCU.
So yeah, so there is hope for Washington State at
this point and point in time and cam Ward to
potentially end up at a Heisman ceremony because in two
weeks they get to they get to travel down to

(15:31):
Auton Stadium, play the Ducks, and then their their schedule. Honestly, Bro,
they got it light. They got the light end of
the Pac twelve schedule because they got UCLA this week,
which is obviously not a light game, but I'm saying, like,
it's not the you know, the heavy end of the

(15:52):
Pac twelve. Then they get Arizona, they got Oregon, then
they get ASU, Stanford, cal Colorado. Bro, they there's a
real chance that they could be heading into the Washington
game at either ten and one or eleven and zero.
There is a shot. I don't think that they're I

(16:12):
don't I don't think they're gonna beat Oregon. But is
there a chance they can beat Oregon? Absolutely? Oregon don't
show up with their with their A game, They show
up with like a B minus game, and they show
up with their eight. They can win.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
And Oregon had to, like Oregon had to hustle last
year in the fourth quarter, overcome some pretty ridiculous odds
to come back and beat Yes, Washington State, they really did.
And Washington State seems this year better on both sides
of the ball than they were last year. So does Oregon.
But it just it makes that match up, the potential

(16:48):
for that matchup that much more exciting.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Oh yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 2 (17:04):
Now to go back. Oh but before we get back
to the what happened last week? Uh, we got to
talk about what happened prior to the game, even starting
on college football game day. Plus, nobody knows to study.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Second consecutive chance we got something this flag whenever one
and eleven we were, you were, that's wild. So when
that sucked.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
The week on the biggest college footbosh wow success Ryan Leaf.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
And flying and flying old beef beside it too.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
I want to waste for.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Jamie flag flying up there. Every severe at Washington State
gets in the Washington State's going, not big beans up there.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Shut up in Washington State. I'm sick of you waste
time on this show.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Just why do you get to the pot were still winning?

Speaker 2 (18:07):
You back over?

Speaker 3 (18:09):
I doubt it, you know, on the subject.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
So I find it out of line. Pat McAfee, Bro,
you just got here like two years ago. Like you
you you've not been in these in these college football
game day trenches, right, so so all of this we
talk like who the who's we? You speak French right now?

Speaker 3 (18:37):
We we.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
That's so I like Pat, I just think that he
him being the ambassador for the UH going after Washington
State when he ain't the people who were doing that,
and he's like, oh, we're showing this flag every week. Bro,
game day did not assist in any single getting their

(19:01):
flag there. All they did is showed the crowd and
the flag was there. And then after a few years
it became like, damn, that flag is always here. Huh,
let's acknowledge it. It wasn't like game Day was giving
Washington State a platform. They weren't.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
It's just part of it. Like I've been on three
college game day sets, and every single time, the first
thing I look for is the Washington State flag.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, just because it's.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Part of it. It's really cool.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
They got there at Washington State fans dime.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, they could move their ass over to big noon kickoff.
They do this as an alumni base just because they
love their school and like to be super clear to
Pat McAfee, college football is not professional wrestling. It's not
this whole like playing the heel thing because they'll they'll
love to hate me. Nah, man, they just hate you.

(19:57):
Now they hate you. You just alienated one of the
best college football towns in America for what. Yeah, for
what and this And it's not like the NFL. It's
not like when Emmanuel Acho went out and was like
Herbert sucks social media quarterback and then justin Herbert threw
for fifty thousand yards in one quarter with auto in

(20:20):
the stands and then he had to do like a
Mia Kolpa. That's fun for the fans because but like
you're talking about a town, you're talking about like a
whole economy that is dependent upon revenue being brought in
by Washington State earning their place as a major college
football town. That's that nationwide alert.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
What is this nationwide alert for?

Speaker 3 (20:47):
It's the National Weather Service set it up with Deon
Sanders to let people know we come in.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
No, no, over real, what is it? What is it about?
Because that's oh god.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
That everyone in the country got one of those at
the exact same time, and now we are listening to
this in their card. You're gonna get a second one.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
So how about a I mean, do we need a
nationwide alert? Is there something something brewing?

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Brother? No? No, well, well maybe a week from now
Washington and Oregon top ten matchup.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Well, I mean, I honestly we hope it's a top
ten match up because what happens of Oklahoma beacht Texas
this weekend?

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Right, you're right, No, they could absolutely drop just for
being inactive, which is very, very.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Rich, which never happens to these never mind, Right, we're
done with the eight people.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Oh yeah, I just throw out there to Pat McAfee
like it's a calculated risk on his part every time
he does something like this, and he you know, he
does something every single day that gets the Internet talking.
Yesterday it was Aaron Rodgers calling Travis Kelsey mister Pfizer,
which was audible. That was from me. That's funny, and

(22:10):
so like, you know, he's gonna create conversation. But at
some point, and you and I have had this conversation
and we've been on opposite side of this conversation, at
some point you have to realize your overall impact and
the way you carry with you and the things that
you do, and like using that to like to try
to play bully to Washington State for standing up for themselves.
Like and I and I talked about it last week.

(22:31):
I hope that Washington State misinterprets everything. Lee Corso says,
I hope they are.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Thorn in every single week. Bro, I'm coming out with
like videos like Oregon did after the Colorado game. I'm
coming out with that every single week, and you go,
you go, you gonna feel me, you go and acknowledge me,
like I'm gonna beat the little thorn in your side. Bro.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah, I I I hope that Washington State fans are
the most I support them in this the most ridiculous
people on earth through the end of this season because
they they should they should they like they got crushed
by this process of breaking up the conference for the
benefit of the different television networks and they were the
victim of it. This isn't playing the victim, it's being

(23:18):
the victim. They should be as loud and nasty and
weird as possible. And if it makes Pat McAfee uncomfortable,
good do it again and again and again. Don't stop, like,
make him come off as the bad guy, because you
won't let up be as relentlessly weird as Pat McAfee
was in that clip. I'm all for it.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
To lighten the mood before we get to the games.
There is a play this weekend that I know that
Arizona State fans and Ralph themselves will be happy about.
So if you are listening to this on audio, you
guys can go on the PAC twelve apostles uh Twitter

(24:02):
and watch it. And it is at the twenty three
minute and forty three second mark.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Breaking Oh my god, you didn't see Yell.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
No, you didn't see Jayden Daniels get absolutely rocked. Dude,
that's you. Twice this year.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
You sent me a note about it, but I thought
you were talking about the Mississippi State game.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
No, that's a whole new game, brother, man.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
I tell you what. They fixed him. They fixed him
in that offense. It's gonna be a wasted year because
they don't play defense. But the fact that he's like
throwing it up to receivers instead of just playing it
safe all the time you took it, you maybe need
to play it a little bit safer in the in
the running and.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Running from dang right, this is his second time this
year getting absolutely.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Like run through. He got run through.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
That the ball was on an eject though, seat said,
we're not seeing that ball. Oh man, All right, let's
get on to the business that was last week and
it started on Friday. And we like to pat ourselves

(25:21):
on the back when we get it right. And Ralph,
what did we say about this game Oregon State versus
Utah if cam Risey did not play?

Speaker 3 (25:33):
I said, the most aggressive take of the under in
the history of this show. Yes, and when we smashed
that under and then you said Oregon State scores twenty
one games over yep. And the final score Oregon State
twenty one Utah seven.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yep, dude, Utah, Like I damn near dropped them out
of my top twenty five this week. That was brutal
to watch, I mean, and it's not. And we've talked
about we cannot account for them being hurt like you

(26:13):
are what you've put on film. They are four and one.
But the question is is, like, I don't when I
look at this team. When I'm watching this team, I'm like,
this is like watching the Nathaniel Hackett Denver Broncos play.

(26:34):
Offense may be worse. It's brutal, and I know that
Cam Rising is hurt, but they have other issues besides
that on the offensive end, because their defense does a
good job, but there comes a point where your defense
can't just just pitch shutouts. And the reality is is

(26:57):
that Nate Johnson who was eight for twenty three or
one hundred and one yards and a touchdown and Bryson Barnes,
this ain't it. They were thirteen for thirty one combined
for one hundred and forty one yards, a touchdown and
a pick. I do not. I talked to a PAC
twelve coach on Saturday and he was like, Yo, there

(27:22):
is not a real live now, a graduate assistant, nothing
like somebody who's watching film on these teams. He said
that there is no chance that adding Cam Rising back
is going to just magically make them back into next year.
There are bigger issues going on with that offense, and

(27:43):
it is and like they're gonna go from one of
the worst in the country to like middle worst in
the country to like from like top one thirty to
like top sixty five seventy with Camp right there.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
The their their floor is twenty twenty two Illinois and
their ceiling is any year, but this year San Diego State,
like where there where, it's just gonna be like an
it's gonna have to be an average offense that that
carries them through some of these games. But I mean

(28:21):
they also, uh, they also had kind of a devastating loss,
didn't they this last week on the defensive side of
the ball. And they're they're probably the second least healthy
team in the Pac twelve. But Logan Fano, they're they're
really talented defensive end. He is out for the season.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, that's that's a tough one.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yep. So listen, Utah is a tough minded team. Are
they going to quote unquote be okay? Like yeah, but okay,
this year does not look like what they would have
predict it and Cam Rising clearly is I mean he

(29:05):
he didn't even dress out, didn't put on a full
workout prior to the game. They said, it's been practicing some.
I don't even know what his practicing some really looks like,
because that does not look accurate at this point and
point in time. If you get what I'm.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Saying, he was day to day one month ago.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, that's a lot of.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
He was day to day going into the season. So
either a lot of that, yes, and they lie to
take something definitely competitive advantage yep, Well what competitive advantage
is there in just like nobody believes you anymore. So
just drop it. If Cam Rising is not playing this year,
just shut him down. Don't make him go through the

(29:49):
like even the physical labor of putting on pads for noise.
Just shut it down.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Well. See, the thing I noticed is when he was
throwing the ball when they show him, he wasn't like
moving full speed at all, like or even fast. And
he also had a don Joy knee brace on, but
he also had another brace on as well, like so
he had multiple or like either he had multiple braces

(30:17):
on or he had a special designed brace, so this
appears to be more than just an ACL, so that
he may have hurt something else in there, so we
shall see.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Well, isn't this his third ACL?

Speaker 2 (30:36):
It's something, Yeah, it's more, it's more than his first.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
So if you and if you look, if you're the
team doctor or Cam Rising's personal doctor, and you're looking
out there and you're like, Okay, could we chance it
this week? And then you just watched Bryson Barnes get
put in the hospital after it hit to the chest
and you're like, wow.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Man, maybe this isn't the year, right, Like, dude, Bryce,
They said they were very concerned for Bryson Barnes, like
the the messaging that came out was scary, Like I
was like, are we afraid for his life?

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Right? And and but then at the same time you
get boy who cried Wolf Territory with Kyle Winningham, so
it's like, oh, did he get a cut in his nipple?
Like we don't know, we don't know what to believe
when you talk yep.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
And now Utah is five games and they're averaging nineteen
point two points per game, and but their defense is
only giving up eleven point eight points per game. So
you know it. It is what it It is what

(31:54):
it is. Man. So oh, in total offense, they are
dead last in the PAC twelve, dead last under three
hundred yards a game.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
So yeah, and it doesn't matter how good your defense is.
You got a couple offenses in the Pac twelve, it
will score two three touchdowns by accident. Oregon say it's
one of them.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah. Yeah, they're going to like like it's it's They're
gonna keep pushing on the door and eventually it's going
to break. Eventually, the door is going to break.

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Speaker 2 (32:39):
All right, next game up now before we go to
the next game, even though I just said next game. Oh,
Ralph just stumbled upon some news.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
So Utah might be having a hard time moving to football,
but they're not gonna have a hard time helping each
other move because all Utah scholarship football players just received
a new truck. As part of an nil deal with
the Utah Crimson Collective. Every scholarship player on Utah's football
team is getting a twenty twenty four Ram fifteen hundred

(33:12):
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costs will be fully funded by the donors of the
Crimson Collective.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
How about that, Bro, that's that money money, Bro, Bro,
that's eighty five may minimum. I would be a maximum
of eighty five cars getting leased out. Now they they
must right when players graduate, they gotta have to give

(33:43):
those back and like pass that down to like a
new kid, like to where it's like a two or
three year thing, because that's a lot of loaners. Buddy.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah, the lease is getting paid, The lease is getting
paid by the collective, and the insurance costs and because
it's a lead, I don't think it'll affect the kids
tax statuses. I don't believe so. But pretty cool, Pretty cool,
especially after last year's built bar covering the scholarships of

(34:13):
all the BYU kids that were walk ons for that year.
This is what I like this.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
This might help in recruiting, bro, This might help in recruiting. Bro.
We don't need to get you no car. You good
when you come out here to Utah, mate, and you
good and snow you good? Everything else we got you,
fam Hey, amazing all right on to the next game
from last week USC Colorado USC forty eight, Colorado forty one.

(34:44):
This was a thirty four to fourteen game at halftime,
and then the Wills came off for for USC. Wills
came off. Now this is another win for your boy
minus twenty. They were minus twenty one and a half.

(35:05):
I was sweating it a little bit at halftime, but
then I knew USC wouldn't let me down. I knew
Colorado wouldn't let me down, and they didn't brot. This
USC defense is lee gee, buddy leaky, and Lincoln Riley
is like, hey, listen to the untrained eye, this is
not the same issues as last year. To the untrained

(35:28):
eye US coaches, we see it differently. What are you saying.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
I'm actually mad that he's kind of right. Like USC's
defense stinks. It just is a different scent than the stink.
Like last year was armpits and this his feet, because
what was the big issue last year is mistackles right
and giving up over six and a half yards per play,

(35:53):
which is pretty wild. But I think here's the deal.
USC's opponent are like six and nineteen combined, six and nineteen.
They gave up twenty eight to an ASU team that
scored zero the week before. They gave up forty one
to a Colorado team that scored six the week before.
No difference in personnel really either time. Yeah, just absolutely

(36:20):
brutal defensive calls by Alex Grinch. They're aggressive, they're not
necessarily missing the tackles that they missed last year. But
they haven't really played anybody yet and they're still giving up.
They're still giving up a ton of points. I mean,
even Stanford, even Stanford, yes, had four explosive plays on

(36:45):
offense in the running game against them. They should be concerned.
I know that Lincoln Riley's out here defending his boy
or whatever, but Ilaholmo's got a top five defense right
now without him.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Hey, they are giving up, on average, the tenth most
yards in the conference at four hundred and four yards
a game. Only Stanford and Colorado are worse. And it's
very interesting because no one, because I saw a stat
a USC you know fan person put out. They were like,
we are first and second in the nation in saxon

(37:19):
tackle for loss and number six in the nation and
havoc great. I don't know what havoc is or how
you even quantify that. But somebody in the comments was like, yeah,
but then you're fifty something in total defense and scoring, so.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Right, and you've got to go against Colorado and Arizona
States offensive lines. Yeah, so two worst in the conference. Yeah,
worse than even Stanford as far as old lines go.
So yeah, I don't want.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
So how does this go versus so? How does this
go for the next few weeks against Notre Dame, Utah, Cal, Washington, Oregon,
and UCLA In terms of I think it's going to
be bad, yeah, in terms of the stress that your
defense is gonna be under, like Caleb Williams is not
going to be able to to try to make hero

(38:10):
plays and miss he like he did. If he has
a two pick game, they might get two touchdown.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Nope, they got a Mike D'Antoni the rest of the season,
whoever had the most points at the end of the
game had the best defense. That's how they have to
That was a sign that was in Mike d'antoni's offense
office when he was in Phoenix. Whoever has the most
points at the end of the game had the best defense,
which is categorically not true at all, Right, but it
sounds nice, correct, No, Lincoln Riley, Caleb Williams, they're gonna

(38:39):
have to carry this team. That that became super evident.
They really had Colorado knocked out. But that just goes
to show you the the discipline and resolve of this
Deon Sanders coach. Yes, the hard time.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Bro, and they have some dudes on this team. Can
we talk about a Marion Miller?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Can we do?

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Can we? Because seven to eleven watching this game? Eleven
snaps before this.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yes, before that game he played eleven snaps.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
That's insane to me.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Seven for one ninety six in a tuddy.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Dude. He was unbelievable and he better, I guess do
something moving forward because that's the bar now is he
had the most receiving yards for a debut receiver in
like twelve years, and and he did it in front
of seven million people. O. Marion Miller is a household

(39:42):
name after one game. Yes, yes, he's getting the same
love that Puka Nakua is getting out for the for
the La Rams. Like this guy came out of nowhere.
Now we just expect him to be good every single week.
This game ended up, your boy, CARMANI MacLean. He got
some glass.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
He was out there strapping up. Yo. It was like,
I'm ready, coach, you called me out. I got in
my playbook, you put me in. I'm ready. Please let
me go. Hey man. Yeah, sometimes sometimes a little call
out is all you need.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
And I mean it sounds like we're bashing on the
team that almost dropped fifty, but that's what we expected
going into the game. Yes, Marshawn Lloyd only getting thirteen
carries is insane. Caleb Williams is so good, so good.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Okay, Like he all right?

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Can we work for him every week?

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Can we? Can we talk about that for a second,
because that play that got posted on social that seventy
one yard touchdown to Taj Washington. The social media posts
about it, Oh my god, this is heroic play. And listen,
Caleb Williams makes enough ridiculous plays for us not to

(41:00):
have to turn that routine play that half the quarterbacks
in the country could have made into something that was
like groundbreaking, like it was cool.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
You're talking about the seventy one yard touchdown pass where
there was no pressure for like six and a half seconds.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yes, yes, and then he moved to the left and
then Todd Washington was buttnaked out there, and he just
threw it to him and then he just ran in. Like,
I didn't see anything special about that play.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Most JV quarterbacks should be able to throw down the
field forty yards without the pocket collapsing at all. He
didn't even need to move the pocket. How little pressure,
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
It was just a regular play.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Like it doesn't make his top ten list of plays
for the season so far.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
No, No, he does enough spectacular stuff that we don't
have to reach. That's the up point. So this is
not eight congrets, Like the dude is unbelievable. Are some
people going to receive that as hate? Ralph? Uh?

Speaker 3 (42:04):
I don't think so. I think anybody who watches Kaylen
Williams knows that, Like, if you're gonna choose one of
his highlights, that is probably not gonna be corn of
them because he didn't even he didn't face a pass rush.
There was no pass rush. He could have run that
ball for about twenty two to twenty five yards. Yep,
he makes one guy miss, it goes for fifty.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Can we talk about Shader Sanders for a hot second.
He's good he's good and he's clutched. Dude, he finds
a way to when when the chips are on the line,
to get something done. Now, Colorado made a crucial mistake
in this game. Crucial mistake and that was how long

(42:45):
did it take them to score on that drive? Like
five minutes almost.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Or toward the end of the game when they started
handing the ball off.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Yes, the crowd started booing because the crowd knew that
what they were doing was insanity.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Yeah, it's almost like they were just trying to keep
it close, like they didn't realize that they actually had
a shot to catch up. And they did have a
shot to catch up. This isn't like this is a
one score game like the Washington Arizona games a one
score game, but they were not the same.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
No, not even a little bit.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Arizona Arizona had to score with almost no time left
in order to make that a seven point game. You'd say, yeah,
that's the same for the Colorado game. But it was
like a twenty seven to seven run there at the end.
Colorado was getting whatever they wanted. Some of the stuff
they were choosing to want was very hard.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
You are I like that the things that they were
choosing to want all right now on Oregon forty two
Stanford six Stanford. Now, it was funny. I saw this
stat and people were like, Oregon only had Stanford held
Oregon to six yards in the first quarter. Oregon only

(44:02):
ran three plays in the first quarter, three three, They
had one drive, they went three and out. Stanford kicked it.
So Stanford got the ball first, went down, kicked the
field goal or that either. Yeah. Yeah, they kicked the
field goal three and out. Then they had the ball
the entire quarter and then kicked another field goal and

(44:22):
then the game was over.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Yeah. I don't have much to say about this game
for the simple reason that like it played out exactly
the way that I thought it would. You're gonna go
into a stadium with no energy whatsoever. Stanford gainst the
ball first, and they're just really good at holding the ball,
and they don't really turn the ball over. They had
no turnovers against They had no turnovers against University of Arizona,

(44:47):
and I don't think they turned the ball over in
this game either. So they just kind of bleed the
clock and then Oregon had their first first down with
like nine minutes left in the second quarter and from
that point they scored on seven of eight drives and
the eighth was a missed field goal. Yeah, seven of

(45:11):
eight drives.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Hey, man, they pressed the easy button again. Man, they
pressed the easy button.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Yeah what Ashton Daniels. It looked like maybe got concussed
in this game. So they had to bring Justin Lampson in.
That's tough because he he's not the guy who's going
to throw the ball down the field. Right.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yep. I don't like this two quarterback thing.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
They put Justin Lampson in to like run the ball
all over the place. Dude had twenty two carries. Move
him to running back, please running?

Speaker 3 (45:41):
And they're actually like, I don't understand why e J.
Smith only gets a handful of carries every game. I
don't know if he's not healthy, but yeah, his youth
sperience is crazy to me.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Yep, yep. Ben Ben Scaronic got two carries.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
EJ. Smith has twenty five carries in the on the season.
Halfway through the season.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
How many does Casey Philkins have?

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Casey Philkins only had seven last week and his seven
this week. He has thirty one carries on the season.
They're both averaging six and a half year.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
How many does Justin Lambson have on the year.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
As a part time player. Yes, Justin Lambson has Let's
see here.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
And the reason why this is important is because I mean,
are we watching Nafty? So he's got more than the
two of them combined. Yeah, then your two top running backs,
your quarter your quarter runner guy has more carries than

(46:50):
both of your running backs combined. Make it make sense,
Make it make sense. I don't know what's Neffert's trying
to do.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Just agreed? All right?

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yeah, Bo Knicks, Troy Troy Franklin went crazy homecoming. This
was this was a this was not a fair fight.
But it's good to see teams actually dominate bad teams
and don't and don't let them put up touchdowns. Feels good.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Forty two to six is a weird score to have
two weeks in a row.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah, it really is. It really is. And considering that
one of them was a touchdown, the other one was
a two field goals to make it more weird. All right.
Washington thirty one, Arizona twenty four, Ralph m hm. And
you talked about that this was actually Arizona scored super

(47:42):
late to make this even closer, But can we talk
about is there a quarterback controversy in Arizona?

Speaker 3 (47:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Nofita was for his first start. This was very impressive.
What do you say? Thirty nine two three?

Speaker 3 (48:04):
They looked they seem the same. They kind of seem
like the same place, and so you look at it
and you're like, well, if they're the same, maybe we
go with the guy.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
That's so, do you think no Noah has blow up potential?
Like I mean, like, like.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
What interception was his interception was? Like? Did they put
Jaden back on the field?

Speaker 2 (48:27):
What else is?

Speaker 3 (48:28):
It? Was like?

Speaker 2 (48:28):
But but it's also his first start pitch. Yeah, so
that's what I'm saying. It was his first start. So
do you get a second pick dropped? Yep? Saw that.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
I don't know. I thought he looked good, I thought,
saying it's his very ways. Yes, that's what I'm saying.
He looked like Jaden de Laura. He looked like Jaden
DeLaura out there, and Jaden de Laura has thirty pac
twelve starts under his belt.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Yeah, so now which way do you go? Because is
he is he Jayden and he's just gonna keep doing
this like keep you know, playing exactly like Jayden at
where he's good and terrible at the same time or
great and terrible at the same time. Or is he
going to as he gets more reps, become more comfortable,

(49:13):
take better care of the football because that's who he
was in high school.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
I think you can at this point you can probably
afford to let Jaden get healthy. But I mean, if
he goes out there and he beats somebody that maybe
they shouldn't beat, I don't know. It looked consistent to me.
It did not look like there was a drop off,
and I think that that is interesting. Yeah, and he

(49:38):
does go out at Temac a lot, goes a lot.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Well that's high school. Well, him and the receipt and
the and the the and their tight end. That's also
there at Arizona as well. So that's Arizona. Now you
dub you dub guys. Shut down they got shut down

(50:03):
only thirty one point No, I'm joking, only thirty one
points and Michael Pennix junior shut down. No touchdowns. They
held him, They held him in checked for for three
hundred and thirty for three hundred and sixty three yards,
bottled him up. I'm I'm joking. I'm joking. They bottled

(50:27):
up Roma Doonze no hundred yard game, Bernard, no hundred yard,
no hundred yard wide receivers. Arizona put them in a headlock.
I'm joking. I don't want people to get just be
like hey, yo, no he's no. No, I'm joking. This

(50:47):
was a dominating offensive performance. It just didn't have the
amount of points. But I do think that this also
shows that I mean number number one. They were playing
in Arizona in two, which is a tough place to play,
and they haven't had a lot of success in Tucson
or in Tempe. So how would you grade you dub

(51:09):
for this win? Granted, a win is a win, so
as Dad Lanning said, one A is to win, So
they got an A for that, and then or a
ten however you want to judge it, and then one
B is the standard. So did they meet the standard?

Speaker 3 (51:29):
This game actually scared me a little bit. I was
wondering if Washington was for real, and then I watched
a team say, okay, you can have everything in front
of us, nothing's gonna go behind us, but we'll let
you take whatever you want from five to fifteen yards
and Washington just goes, all right, we'll take it, and

(51:49):
that was the end of the game. It was just
over at that point because they managed to do it.
And I think the whole thing is, like, make them
run more plays, maybe they'll make more mistakes. Yeah, they
did have a fumble in the red zone at the
end of the game that Arizona was not able to
capitalize on. That's the one that preceded the toss play pick.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Yes, so it could have been a little closer earlier.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Yeah, And I think it was a good game plan
on Arizona's behalf. But like you just have to wonder,
does Washington have the patience to just take everything we
offer them and run their offense that way? And the
answer is yes, because without going over the top, without
giving Michael Pennix the deep ball, he's still averaged nine
yards per attempt, which is insane to me. Three hundred

(52:39):
and sixty three yards thirty of forty. The only time
that I feel like they deviated from the game plan
is their second to last possession, when they had the
opportunity to run the clock down. They went out in
three through times, like through three times, like they were
chasing the Heisman. Yes, that got them. Should have done that.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
That's gonna be hard for coaches because they like, Okay,
we haven't thrown a touch touchdown. We need to get
him a touchdown. We need to get him a touchdown.
And yeah, so U du still a good team. I
would not have moved them down in the polls, but
you know they did allow a little bit of that
caping for Washington to cool down a little bit. Had
they won this game by had they won this game

(53:20):
thirty four to ten, it would have continued.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
I hope Roma Doonday's okay. I don't know if you
saw what happened to him at the end of the game.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
No, what happened to him.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
He jumped on the on side kick about nine yards,
didn't let it go ten just jumped forward and jumped
on it. And then he just got stuck by everybody
on Arizona team. He got walked off the field right
before their last series. So he got The.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Oregon game is in two weeks. He'll be all right,
He'll listen. His body will be magically healed. I'm telling you.
If not, they will, they will stick needles in there.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
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Speaker 2 (54:16):
Last game up for the week Arizona State twenty one,
CAL twenty four. Did you want to cry at the
end of his game, Ralph?

Speaker 3 (54:25):
No, what's weird is I think some of the most
toxic's the wrong word. Some of the most emotional reactions
to ASU so far this year came in people watching
this game, and to me, it looked like the better
team won. ASU played pretty impressive on the defensive side
of the ball. They don't trust their quarterback in goal

(54:49):
line situations, so they kept running that wildcat out there. Sato. Yeah, yeah,
but I did not know that boy was like five
to nine and yeah, five nine, five ninety.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Yes, yes, he's a bullet fire hydrant.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Yeah. He he did some positive things in this game,
but you know, he's not really the guy that's gonna
burst through the line and get twenty yards on a run. No,
I don't know what to tell you. They had offensive
linemen like four, seven, nine, twelve, and thirteen on the field,

(55:28):
so he.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Still got twenty one points. Trenton Wargay your guy, the
guy that you stamped for all the time. Yeah, twenty
six for forty one for three, forty four, no tubs
and a pick. This was a better performance, honestly than
we've seen out of the quarterbacks there so far.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Yeah, it's but it wasn't enough. And that's really all
that people care about. Yep, that's all the people care about.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
So always. Scataboo was the leading receiver too.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Yeah, he's all over an. He threw a twenty yard
ball to Trenton Borgay that he had to high point
because he was not open. So I don't know. I
thought the defense played well, but they they lost a
couple more players. They're as beat up as they've ever been.
I don't know. I to me, it felt like the
team that was a little bit better and a little

(56:23):
bit healthier won the game. Arizona State fans did not
feel the same way. They feel. They felt like ASU
blew it. They gave it away. It's a game they
should have won. But I'm looking at the personnel that
they're putting out there, and I'm like, I don't know, man,
I don't know. I don't know what we can expect
from this team to be able to move the ball
was a nice change though.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Yeah, yeah, that was probably good. That makes sense now.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
Cal Cal does not still have a starting quarterback there.
They said that they're still evaluating.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
How can they not be? Sam Jackson was twelve for
twenty eight for one thirty. When your quarterback is completing
like forty percent of his passes, yes, you're you are
going to be reeling a little bit. I don't know
how to. I mean, honestly, I don't. I don't even
know how they're He's completing fifty two percent of the

(57:21):
passes on the year. That is nowhere near where you
need to be. I know Arizona State's defense can be
confusing and everything, but he hasn't completed a high percentage
pretty much all year anyway. And he didn't run the
ball well either, And he's there running guy eight carries
for negative nine yards.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
This team is.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
I don't even know how to evaluate cow Bro because
they're not going in the right direction and.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
They're not good at the portal. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
It feels like we're looking at like Stanford.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Slowly dying.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yes, except for Cal has a better path to get
better because they can at least get kids in school,
because if they got that whole Marshawn Lynch d Jack
Crew in school, you can you can get who you
want to. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, and I
like those guys, but facts of facts are facts all right.

(58:25):
Now our PAC twelve Power rankings, now it was my
turn to rank them. Ralph had the chance to switch them.
And Ralph decided to make a switch this weekend. And
you know what I said, Okay, Ralph, you know you
know what. I'm not gonna switch a thing. I'm gonna
let you live with these consequences, buddy. And uh, here

(58:49):
is what we got. Washington at number one, Oregon at
number two, Wazoo at number three, So Washington State at
number three, USC at number four, Oregon State at five,
Colorado at six, Utah at seven, Ucla at eight, Arizona

(59:12):
at nine, CAL at ten, Arizona State at eleven, and
Stanford at twelve. Now where he switched, he switched Washington
State and USC at three and four. Now, in all honesty,
I couldn't I couldn't even argue. I don't think it's terrible,
but I know that you that that that some of

(59:33):
you people are gonna feel it's terrible and and if
you guys are looking for like re reaffirming thoughts and
all of that stuff, then maybe the podcast Champions is
the right place for you, for you USC fans.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
They have them at four two, they have them at
four to two. I think, oh they do. I think
they do.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Oh well, yeah, hey, good on, good on you for
being honest.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Good. I look at Washington State. I look at Washington State,
and I look at you USC, And I know you're
gonna hate this because you get the boogie peanut butter.
But you get that. You see that Kroger or the
Great Value peanut butter with the red lid, red lids,
red lid, it really is the same. It's the same
Jiff and the Great Value red lid peanut.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Well, well, I don't, I don't. I don't eat Jiff anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
No, That's what I'm saying. You don't. You don't eat
the plastic lid peanut butter.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
No, No, I I my peanut butter at a glass jars, buddy, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
You gotta like break break it with a hammer and
use all the peanut butter in one. No, But I'm for.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
For where the oil separates from the dude. For that worst,
that's the worst. When that when the oil separates from
the peanut butter. Do you not long it takes to
churn that stuff to get it back smooth again.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
That's why you gotta eat the cheap stuff. But no,
I look at I look at people's sink that Washington
State's like great value or whatever. No, man, they're the
real deal. Their offense can hang with anybody. In their
defense I think is better than USC's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
I totally agree with their defense being better than USC.
The ended at Oregon State game scared a little bit,
but is what it is. All right, onto this week's
slate of games, Ralph. Now we only have four PAC
twelve games because we are doing what the SEC does.
We are gearing up for our best matchup, which is

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Washington versus Oregon two weeks from now. I might fly
up there to Eugene for that one, Buddy, I might
fly up for that one. And you got Washington State.
Twelve o'clock kick at UCLA Ucla minus three and a
half over under fifty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Ralph, I like Washington State to cover in this game. Obviously.
I put them up to number three in the conference,
and I will take the under on the fifty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Okay, I'm gonna take the under as well. UCLA, who
had been able to run the ball so well. The
left side of their line, in particular, the left side
of their line is not good. Tackle and tackles atrocious
right now and left guard just do it? Okay, So

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the left side of their line is weak, and they're
doing strange stuff like having the returner block four. What's
your boy's name? Yankoff Colson Yankoff as the returner. I
I don't know what's going on. This feels like Chip

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being too too smart for Chip. I love Chip, but
sometimes big big brains get I mean, like like Elon Musk.
He's done some really great things and he's done some
things where you're like, what what do you? What do
you think it?

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
It's like it feels like tight end jail. You bring
up yankof every week. It feels like tight and jealousy.
It feels like you wanted to return some kicks and
get the cheens. No.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Well, yes, I would have loved to return kicks, but
I had no I had no business back there returning kicks.
How about that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Yes, It's like it's like Utah putting uh uh Pittman
back there to return kicks that ain't that. That ain't
your kick, that ain't your pump.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
So what what's your pick in this game?

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Give me Washington State minus three and a half. Sorry, sorry, Bruins.
My wife will be in the stadium crying. And the
over under, oh under under under that fifty nine under.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
You're you're you're on a hot streak. You're seventeen and
seven this year against the spread and twelve and eight
on the over unders. I went five and o last
week and that brought me within one of you. I'm
sixteen and eight against the spread. Okay with you overders.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Okay, hey, we we're cooking with Chris go this year. Bro,
all right. Arizona at uc at usc USC minus twenty
one and a half. This game's in the coliseum. They're
probably a little bit upset with the way last week went.
Now t Mac and Noah Fafeda play at home. If

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Noah Fafieda is back to starting quarterback, could be a
good homecoming. He ain't gonna come out here and lay
an egg. Give me Arizona minus twenty one and a half.
I'm sorry not minus no damn twenty one a half
plus twenty one and a half, and I will take
the over of seventy two.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
I will go. I'll go with you on Arizona. They
keep giving USC these three touchdown minds and they're failing
to live up to every every week. I like Arizona's
defense a little bit. If they do that thing where
they try to keep everything in front of them, they
will give up a lot of yards, but there won't
be as many explosive plays. So I'll also take Arizona
and I'm gonna take the under.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Ooh, I was just listening to that. I was like,
who that under sounds juicy? All right? Colorado Arizona State, Arizona.
Colorado is going on the road as a four point
favorite ralph against a complicated defense. They can stop the run.

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Colorado hadn't been able to run it until they played
his USC, so I don't know whether they turned a
corner or whether this is just who USC is. I
like the Buffs, man, I like the Buffs to get
back on track and get to four and two and
the over under of sixty No oh, no shot, no shot, bro,

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I'm taking it. Under.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
I agree with you. I think Colorado's one touchdown win
maybe ten points in this game. And I will also
take the under. Shout out to Arizona State wearing glow
in the dark uniforms at three thirty PM on a
channel that nobody has.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
They must be changing their uniforms for this game. They yeah,
they have to because they probably thought this was gonna
be on national television. I don't know how in week
six where they thought they would be, but they're right
about where I thought they would be at either one
in four or two and three. Yeah. Now, Oregon State

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Cal Oregon State minus nine and a half at Cal.
This is over under fifty two, Ralph. This is a
trick line. This line is a trick to not be
fooled by this. Oregon State will not win by ten points.
It's nine and a half points. They will not win

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by that much. Cal's offense is atrocious. But or Oregon
State did just put Utah on a headlock. But still
I'm gonna go, oh god, I'm reluctantly going with Cal
plus nine and a half and the under and the under.

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I'm saying it's gonna be like a twenty four to
seventeen game.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
All right, I will give Oregon State a ten point win.
Let's say twenty four to fourteen, which hits the under
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Yikes. All right, well that is it. Where are we
on our players of the week.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
You're currently leading four to three. I am oh, no,
I come back. You last week picked a player who
only had one touchdown in Marshawn Lloyd because they didn't
really give them the ball that much, while bo Nicks
had four touchdown passes in like four consecutive games. Insane, bro,
I get the one point when you get to pick
first this week. You just can't pick a player you've

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already picked.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
I cannot believe they let me down with Marshawn Lloyd
versus Colorado. That's so gross because they were scoring from
fifty instead are scoring from close. All right, I will
take cam Ward.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Okay. Interesting? Interesting, you blocked me from taking somebody that
I was going to actually take on Washington State Ross.
I'm not gonna tell you. I'm not gonna tell you
how did I block well? Because if this player would
have done well, it would have been because came woardon
did well? Oh okay, yes, all right, I'm going shaduor Sanders.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Ooh this is this is gonna be a close one. Oh,
this was gonna be close close.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
Okay, all right, come on Colorado running Backs, because because
cam Ward is gonna score at least a couple of
touchdowns running over passing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
So we shall see. But you guys, that is the
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