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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans, This one's
for you. This it's the PAC twelve Apostles and only
the Truth lives here Packed twelve Apostles.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Gamson, and this is the
PAC twelve Apostle.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Thank you guys for joining us today.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Make sure that you leave a five star rating wherever
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the podcast with a friend.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
And uh yeah, we still haven't gotten too many.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
New suggestions for how we are going to name this
podcast next year. And me and Ralph and our personal
interests are going in two different directions.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
He's headed to the Big twelve, I'm headed.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
To the Big ten, and so and so we will
be a national college football show after this season is
overWe clearly yeah, because we will not be staying with
the back too. But yeah, so, Ralph, do we have
any new reviews today from the people?

Speaker 4 (01:04):
We do? Not hit us up on Apple. Throw in
a review for us. We'll read it on the on
the podcast, no matter what it says. And I'm sure
there's a couple of people that we may have made
artificially upset to try to review bomb us. But other
than that, for the most part, it's been our listeners.
It's been really cool and it's been funny to see
people go back and change reviews because we'll read them

(01:25):
every time.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
So yes, and make sure that you guys share it
with a friend like we said, and you guys can
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at pac twelve apostles because we will. We'll make sure
before we record from now on to hit you guys
up to see if you guys have any questions, anything

(01:46):
you guys want addressed. All right, so let's start. We
had Week six in college football. It was exciting, it
was fun. We got some good matchups, and we got
a lot of drama which was absolutely incredible, per per
the usual. But I think we should start Ralph with

(02:08):
uh with what went on with USC, right because USC
in the ap pole, they are not getting the Alabama treatment.
They are not getting the love that Alabama's getting.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
That is true. Alabama has three wins where they played
some defense and not a whole lot of offense against
teams that were marginal. I mean, oh, this is okay,
But you know, they haven't looked great that like three
to three in the fourth quarter against USF. They dropped
after their loss to Texas, but they've gone up, you know,

(02:47):
pretty much every week to get to the to the
eleven spot, winning these games where they didn't look good.
They didn't look good against Texas A and M Texas
and probably should have won that game. And you know,
and they have a loss this year, you se doesn't
have a loss, and they drop. Every time they win,
they drop. And you can say USC deserves to drop.
I think that that's completely valid, but Alabama's not. And

(03:10):
it feels like the same thing's happening with them.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, and to make it even worse than them not
dropping is for anybody that doesn't understand fully how the
ap pole works, the ape pole has sixty two voters.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Sixty two voters.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
And there were six or seven of them that put
Texas in front, sorry behind Alabama, and they whooped their
ass on the field a few weeks ago. This isn't
a Calabama field, Yes on Alabama's field, And this isn't
a case where you know, it's six seven weeks down
the line. Texas has two or three losses and Alabama

(03:50):
still only has the one loss. No, we're dealing with
two to one loss teams and one voter from Notre
Dame has Oklahoma and Texas by hind Alabama.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Make it make sense. Make it make sense because you can't.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
And you guys can go on on my YouTube channel
of George Reister and you'll see there's a video about
in detailing the Alabama worship that's going on. Because it's ridiculous, bro,
because it is absolutely ridiculous. And USC fans and Pack
twelve fans, you gotta watch out because we talked about

(04:29):
it last week about how Oklahoma was if Oklahoma won
that they were gonna jump above Oregon in Washington and
USC and that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
No problem with that.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
But after the Oregon Washington game this week, will they
then jump in front of Oklahoma is the question.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
I don't think so. I honestly don't think so. I
just don't think it's the same standard. And I think
once you move somebody all the way up to five,
what you're saying about them is the only way they
can go down is lose. But that's because what it
should be and people, no, it's not what it should be,
but the USC was the team at five, that is

(05:08):
it that is losing ground with every narrow win. USC
is the only one that's held to that stand, so
that West Coast teams are not held to the same
standard as everybody else. Dennis Dodd wrote a column today
about how like it's hard for Oregon and Washington to
be good at the same time because to get there
it either has to be flying over mountains or or

(05:30):
traveling the ocean, like it was just like super dramatic,
super dramatic stuff of like, there's just there's not a
lot of respect for the region. There's not a lot
of respect for the tradition. And as a transplant to
the East Coast, these games are hard as held to
watch well.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
And one of the things is that people consistently say,
because they've put it under my YouTube videos talking about
Georgia shouldn't be number one and all these things that, well,
look at how how many championships the SEC has won. Yes,
they've won fourteen m sorry, thirteen championships since two thousand,
one hundred percent, right, but number one, this is a

(06:09):
whole new season, and number two at what point in time, Like,
I love how people who want to defend the SEC
are like, ha, we won back to back years. No
Georgia one. Georgia was unbeatable the last two years. So
I love how they like to take credit for the
entire conference, but then in this particular year they're like.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
See, yeah, but it's still the SEC. Oh, that same SEC.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
That's five and seven in non conference games against Power
five opponents.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
That same SEC. Hmmm.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
So we'll see what happens after this week. But USC
fans have a right to be a little bit frustrated
because Alabama and granted they're frustrated too, but they have
a right to be a little bit irritated that they're
held to different standard. Washington, Oregon have that right to
be irritated. But we'll see what happens after this weekend.

(07:07):
That's kind of moved from that to USC and their defense,
right because they had a close game against Arizona ralph
And there are two major storylines coming out of this game.
Number One, there's one from the Arizona side, one from.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
The USC side.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
The Lincoln Riley made a comment after the game that
said after last week where he said the to the
untrained eye, the issues with the defense are different. But
then this week he's like, oh, man, the defense saved
us today. What was your thought about that?

Speaker 4 (07:45):
I don't know, man, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Man.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
They don't pay me to have thoughts on here. What
do you think?

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Well? Their damn defense?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Okay, on one hand, their defense did get the stop
that won the game.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Year me. Yes, yes, they did.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
However, they wouldn't have been in that position if their
defense wasn't trash. Like that's the like, that's the thing
about it is that they're they're Jr. Smith when he
was with the Nuggets. He'll shoot you in the game,
shoot you right back out the game.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Yeah, I mean, it's what This is a weird one
because it's obviously the score is not the score because
you're talking about triple over time.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Right, But anybody who watched the game, you're seeing a
quarterback in his second ever start throw for five touchdowns. Yes,
four to one, four to one. Player. Yes, they had
seventeen missed tackles. One week after Lincoln Riley saying that
the the trained guy would see that they're actually making

(08:52):
these tackles now, so they've improved. Well, Arizona's running back
look like a god yep.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
And that's the thing is that they were pointing to
all their their high sacked numbers, high pressure numbers, all
of that, but they went down this after this this week.
Oh it's amazing. Competition steps up a little bit. It's
harder to sacked quarterback harder.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
I just need I just need the question answered. I
just need the question answered, Like, all right, well, how
come ASU could score against you and not Fresno? How
come Colorado could score against you and not Oregon? What's
happening here? Just explain explain that to me. All I
want is for you to explain why the teams that
can't score on other people are getting people raises and

(09:41):
extensions against you.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
That's a legitimate question, that is, and it's a very
legitimate question because it's not like Colorado had some masterful
roster change against USC the next week.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yeah, And it's not like you could be like, well,
we're talking about all time defensive mind Jeff Tedford. So no, no, exactly,
come on exactly.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
And then the second story line out of this game
is we'll see what happens with Arizona this week because
they go play Who's at Washington State?

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Right?

Speaker 2 (10:17):
And the question is who's gonna start at quarterback? Is
it going to be Jaden Delora or Noah Fafieda. So
I've seen two different comments from Jedfish, one of them
when he was asked about the quarterback situation if it's changed,
he said no, and then a video where he was
where he said, if Jaden DeLaura is one hundred percent

(10:38):
not now. Notice he very cautiously, he very carefully put
that one hundred percent in. If he's one hundred percent,
he's going to start. He's our quarterback.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
And you have.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
So many people including me, yelling at the yelling, screaming
at the clouds, like what are you doing? Noah Fafeeda
is the guy, and think think about this, Ralph. Noah
Flafeeda doesn't look like he has blow up potential the
same way that Jaden DeLaura does, where he will just

(11:15):
go off the rails some game and have like this
crazy high turnover game.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
So maybe maybe, maybe maybe we don't know. We we
just don't what. So what you're saying is from what
we've seen so far, which is two games. Yes, that's it.
And he did have probably the dumbest turnover of the
year against Washington that doesn't mean he's gonna do it
a bunch, but he like.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Also his first start, and yes I am not as
on he was better in the USC game.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Yeah, okay, So then here's the question. Here's a question
because you got as a coach, you're a little bit
of a gambler, and we know from experience that not
every coach really knows what they have going on in
their quarterback room until everybody gets an opportunity to play
in multiple settings, multiple situations. Jaden DeLaura at his best
is your best chance to win? Correct?

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (12:14):
So that's the question you have to ask yourself as
a coaching staff is are we gonna get Jaden Delawa's best? Now?
Are you gonna get Jade Dolaura's best in Washington at
Washington State? No, because he's gonna be very emotional.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well, that's the question.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
And whenever it's a very emotional game, it doesn't go well.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
It does not go well. No, So so the so
the question.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Now, But at the same time, I think Noah fafeeda
ceiling actually may be higher than than Jaden's because he.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Hasn't turn the ball over. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Now, I called out I called out one of the
other PAC twelve of podcasts this week which I listened
to all of them. I love all of them. This
one is for the the the younger crowd. They're a
lot of fun. Like I said, I tune in every
single week. But this last week they said, Noah Fafida
way better than Jayden DeLaura, but not talented, not a

(13:13):
power five player, And yeah, I disagree.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
I saw the guys play in high school.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I saw some shred Sierra Kenyon, him and t Mac
and Bennett just absolutely just dominated. And if he if
he weren't like five foot four, I mean, I'm being
very and I'm joking, he's like, he's like, uh, br
Bryce Young size.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
If he weren't bright young size, he weren't fun.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Size, he would be a he would have been a
high four star probably five star kid.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Can we can we agree on that?

Speaker 4 (13:50):
I think you'd be a four star kid for sure,
because I think the here's the deal. Quarterbacks are short
now they come in all shapes and sizes. Is long
is you're not getting the ball batted down and you
can move the pocket, You're good. I mean that's what
Manzell had a bunch of success. Bryce Young had a
bunch of success. Baker Mayfield had a bunch of success. Uh,

(14:13):
Trenton Borga has like six three hundred yard passing games
at at ASU at this point, Like you can you
can play the position. Are there physical limitations sometimes? Yeah,
but he's not. He's also not small. He's short, but
he's not necessarily small.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
He's a he's a little fire hydrant.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yeah. Yeah, And I I don't know, I just to
me and I don't think that I think they actually
like no if a Fida. I didn't necessarily take it
in disrespect, but like the expectation of No No if
a Fida coming out of Survit High School was that
he was going to chase every single quarterback that wasn't
Jaden DeLaura out of the way and probably immediately be
the number two, and.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Which is exactly what he did. So yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
So but the question though, is all right, so if so,
let's say that they keep Jaden in for the rest
of the year. Yes, Noah has film now, Jaden Delora
still has I think two years of eligibility left. So
if you know, Noah aa are you sitting there?

Speaker 4 (15:16):
No, no, out of there?

Speaker 3 (15:19):
So I think that Jedfish you.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Might lose. You might lose, noaha, if you choose to
start him.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
That's no, no, no, I I highly doubt that because
he's there with his buddies and he's there with his
best friend in T Mac.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
You never know, man, you never know. It's that's so,
that's the that's the wild West.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
That could still happen.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Yeah, anybody who's good could leave, especially if you're Arizona.
Look what happens to.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
The so so.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I know that us he is not super super happy
with what they've seen out of Malachi Nelson's so so
far or Miller Moss.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yeah, they like him, but they don't they're not planning
to have him take over.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
SO and so would would would T Mac and Noah
roll over to USC? I think Lincoln has had a
short quarterback in Kyder Murray.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Hey, I think if it comes with a side of
T Mac.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
If it comes to sid T Mac and cheese, you're
gonna get thea burger.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I know Arizona fans aren't gonna want to want to hear,
but this is the kind of world that very Yeah,
and you have to manage your locker room and pick
what's what's best for now and what's best for the future.
I know, No, you can't worry about the future because
the thing that you that you should never do is
sacrifice wins right now for a potential future later, like

(17:00):
because you can't guarantee these kids are gonna be there,
be healthy, any of that.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
So do what you have to do to win now.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
And I think that Noah Fafeita is probably the best
option to win now overall, because this Washington State game,
if Jaden plays, and that's where he came from, I
don't know how this goes.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
And he hates them, yeah, oh.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
With the with a absolute passion, with a passion.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Do you think comes to this game and sits in
the crowd he's.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Been to He's been to a lot of college college
football games, been to a lot of them.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
What do you think of this new thing of like
coaches going back to the schools they used to coach
at and just chilling because I've seen Todd Graham at
a bunch of ASU games. Urban Meyers standing on the
Ohio State sideline this last week has kind of a
weird feel to it.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Excited got to go back to the scene of the crime.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Everybody likes to go tiptoe it. Hey we be at sea, well,
I we're at Sierra Canyon games sometimes. But then I
guess my nephew does play on the team. But but still,
but you transfer your son out.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Of there, so exactly all right? Uh?

Speaker 4 (18:15):
What?

Speaker 2 (18:15):
The University of Washington has a new athletic director who
replaced Jim Cohen, who mosied her way down to Los
Angeles because us he just steals everything from everybody that
they want. And they have a new athletic director. What's
the name Ralph?

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Oh, they got the they got the dude from uh,
from Tulane. Uh. His name is Troy Dannon. And when
you try to pull up his Tulane University bio, it's
a four oh four not found error page.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Now, so he is in Seattle, They're like, f Youboddy.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yeah, they wiped that cleanon real quick.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
So, and Tulane is they have built the football program
correctly built the.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
Football Okay, okay, yes they did, Yes they did. But
I'm gonna read you a sentence and you tell me
if you think this is why he got hired. Super
Pac twelve vibes on this, all right, Okay, Okay, prepare yourself.
Under Troy Daanen's leadership, Tulane won a national championship in
sailing in twenty twenty one twenty two. They also have

(19:35):
top twenty finishes in beach volleyball and bowling, and the
men's tennis team reached the NCAA tournament for the sixth
time in seven years. That's the most pack twelve resument
I've ever seen in my life. I'm surprised he wasn't
already an ad in the pack.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Dude.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yeah, Like, hey, football's cool, but have you seen our bowling?

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Like how many teams actually have bowling?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Is it Nebraska and and who else?

Speaker 4 (20:05):
But I don't know. I don't know, but I will
tell you like that sailing championship is definitely going to
be in his introductory press conference, Oh for sure.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
I so I understand.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Where Tulane wasn't gonna have, you know, a bunch of
national championships and all that stuff. But you you are right.
It is very funny. But the football program is headed
in the right direction. Did a good job there. And yeah,
I don't know about their their basketball teams.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
I have not seen them in the tournament. So Chelsea, man,
they got scared.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
Beach volleyball is gonna fall off at Tulane now that
Troy Dane's gone.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Oh man, damn.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
But you dub's athletic director and their president are having
to deal with the lawsuits and everything else now because
the PAC two have obviously sue the PAC ten all
the ten schools that are leaving. Bro, that's a hell
of a mutiny, bro. And so the PAC two is like, Yo,

(21:09):
it's our conference.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Now.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
We shall control all the money, we shall make all
of the decisions, because you guys gave us a notice.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
To leave, and you guys are gone.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
And the PAC ten is like, yeah, I know that
we posted we're headed to the Big ten. But and
when USC and UCLA decided to leave, that we took
away their voting rights. But y'all can't take away ours
because that wasn't the way we interpreted this whole bylaw situation.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
And yeah, I don't get this. I don't understand why
Washington can't leave it alone. To me, it's like, so.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Washington is finally on behalf of not just them. So
Washington filed a motion to dismiss the lawsuit because they
are the only school who can because their school is
in the state of Washington where the lawsuit was fun
so they filed it on behalf of them and the
other nine schools who are leaving.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
So right, So Dad is going out for a pack
of cigarettes. He's not coming back, and he wants you
to venmo him from the newports on the way out
the door. No, I don't think it should work like.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
No, No, he wants you to venmo him his check
that came in the mail.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
That's what he wants you to do.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Okay, because his paycheck that he legitimately earned came in
the mail.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
He just wants you to venmo it to him.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
That's it, all right, Pops. Well these bills got your
name on him too. You want these?

Speaker 3 (22:41):
No?

Speaker 2 (22:41):
No, no, So that's the summary of the lawsuit with
the Pack ten versus the pack two.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Who should we be rooting for here? I mean, like,
I guess it benefits us to have someone pay for
us to leave, but I didn't. It doesn't feel listen.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Harney's transition costs that somebody got to eat these transition costs.
And you know what, I don't care to be honest,
because you know whose fault it is that we're in
this situation.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
All twelve of these people.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, actually actually not all twelve of these current people,
because pretty much all of them are different than when
Larry Scott got re upped. Yeah, and they didn't do
and they made thirty thousand mistakes. So you can't blame
the people in power currently except for Michael Crow and
I think one other president. However, though, the schools are

(23:42):
the reason why we're in the position that we are
in now, So therefore I feel sorry for nobody.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Okay, there was a lot of now for self. There
was a lot of this this last weekend because Big
Noon Kickoff gave the old Crimson flags to Kingram and
Matt Lioner to wave around. And you notice Brady Quinn
did not participate because I don't know if anybody knows
who his in laws are, but I'll let you look

(24:12):
that one up. But we'rea you don't you don't know?
Uh uh? Who is isn't married to Brady Quinn's sister is?
And AJ Hawk?

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Are you serious?

Speaker 4 (24:28):
I thought that A J. Hawk was married to Brady
Quinn's sister and a J Hawk is Pat McAfee's right
hand man.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
So oh so Brady Quinn.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Wasn't participating, but the rest of the crews out here
disin Pat McAfee waving old Crimson flags. I tweeted out
the video of them waving the flags, and everybody spent
the whole day quote tweeting me saying, well, Fox is
the one that killed the conference anyway, you know, So
it's fun for them to be celebrating Washington State now
that they're the reason that Washington State's in this situation.

(25:00):
And I gotta say, blaming Fox is incredibly reductive, because, like, yeah,
Fox might have fired the bullet or one of the
bullets that killed the conference, but the conference was wandering
around in a war zone, just filling taking photos, like
like the so many things went wrong to even be

(25:22):
in a position to get your teams poached, so many yep,
you never should have been in this position in the place.
And so it's like, yeah, Fox, Fox is the one
that did us in. It's like, oh, yeah, well that
that truck's the one that hit me when I ran
across the freeway without looking like I was still in
a position to get in trouble. And Fox is the

(25:44):
one that made sure in part that anybody who's trying
to assign assign a lion's share of blame to any
one entity in particular, is not going to be able
to successfully do it because there are so many hands
in the cookie jar of like what led to this moment?
So many and I don't to me, it's not I

(26:07):
don't put all the blame on rupertoc, Fox Sports all that.
I don't. They did things work out exactly the way
they wanted And are we worse off for it? Yes?
Should they be clowned for their motivations? Yes, But is
this their fault? No, No, it is not.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Correct, not their fault at all.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
All.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Right, now on to the University of Utah, because they
did something Ralph that is going to it's not even
going to It is putting a lot of pressure on
a lot of other schools.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
It is going to help their recruiting.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
It is gonna leave some people very unhappy in other locations.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
And that is a bunch of trucks went out.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
So every scholarship player at the University of Utah will
be receiving a truck to you who's not own but
use it will have some some level of branding on it,
and you know it's it looks like a I wouldn't.
It doesn't have as much branding as like a U

(27:14):
haul truck, but it's got like a little you know,
it's like putting a Mary Kay bumper sticker on your
on your door, on the car or something like that, like,
you know, a branding for the people who are sponsoring
the nil deals, for the yes, the Crimson collective. So

(27:34):
and I want to applaud them because this is how
you do collective work. Now, Now, the offensive lineman, who
normally get nothing or very little in NIL deals except
for at a few different places, and it's usually only
the top end kids who came in as big name recruits,

(27:56):
even if they're starters and all of that stuff. Well,
now this puts everybody on equal footing the way that way,
the backup lineman, he feels really good about what's going
on there because he gets something. Even though he knows
that cam Rising is going to get more. He can

(28:17):
live with that now. And now before you leave, he
gonna be like, huh, all right, So if I leave,
I gotta go get another car.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
I gotta do this, I gotta do that. Listen, brother,
these are questions.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
It makes it a little bit tougher to get up
out of there now, and I like it.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
All right. We brought this up last week, but the
reason we're bringing it up again this week is for
two reasons. One because you said that it's putting pressure
on other schools yep, And I'm gonna have you elaborate
on that in a minute, because I think that's very important.
And number two, I actually spent some time thinking about it,
talk to some people, and I'm not a hater. I
actually love that this is happening. But let's be clear,

(28:58):
this is not an il.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yes it is.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
No, it's not.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
How it is not because you do have to do
something for it.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
All right, Let's let's go through this. Do you get
a truck because of your name?

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Because because is Ralph Amsden and you are going to
show up and do a commercial, or show up and
do something for the Crimson Collective.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Because I am a what.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
A Utah football player?

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Right? So to quote the Rock, it doesn't matter what
your name is, yes it does.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
It does not matters if your name is one of
these eighty five names.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
No, it matters if your name is Utah quarterback one.
You talk quarterback to you tall running back one you
tall running back to I don't talk.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
I don't I don't think that that's what their deal
is gonna say. I think their deal is gonna say
it's for Ralph Amsden.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Period.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
They announced it as it's for the scholarship players at
the University of U. Yes, is it because of Is
it because of their image or the team's image, their
individual image. No, it is not, because it's not going
to individual It's going to the whole team. It's about
the whole team.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
See now, See it's funny because I have this sort
of conversation with my wife all the time, Ralph, and
you are doing a Denisia right now, which is she
tries to tell me how stuff how she sees it,
and she's probably right, and you're you are actually right
in this situation. However, though, when when when I respond

(30:37):
in turn, like with the legalities of it, which is, no,
the contract is going to say it's for Ralph Hampson,
the contract is going to say it's.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
For George Reister. So what the.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Actual like behind the scenes motive and all that is,
it doesn't matter because legally it is going to be
by the book, So technically it is not an inducement,
as much as you want it to be an inducement,
not an inducement because they're going through the proper things.

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It just so happens to be that these players have
the same thing.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
You sound like shaggy right now.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Huh how is that like because.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
You saw me do it, but it wasn't me. That's
it's no, it's nil because I said so. No, not,
it's n I L.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
It's n I L because that's what it is. Because
that's what it is. Bro. That's literally it's an ni
L deal. You get it. If they are going to require.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
The student athletes to do something for this, which is
literally what.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Ni L is. Football player, that's in literally the definition
of inducement.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
No, it's Ralph Rubh. You can.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
You can spirit of the law, letter of the law.
All it is that you want to you are the
spirit right now.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
These deals are a way to filter cash into the
hands of players so that they will play for your school.
There are a few enterprising businesses out there, like the
Big Boys, the Chick fil A's, the Doctor Pepper's, uh,
the Guicos, you know, the Heismanhouse stuff doing stuff like
that that actually is based on the name image and

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likeness of the very famous players. But if something is
available to your second string scholarship kicker and your long
snapper whose names nobody is ever gonna know, it's it's
not it's about the team. And is everybody out there
trying to find ways to make sure that nil is
used in a way that helps their team. Yes, and

(32:54):
this and that's.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
A perfect way to do it. But I'm telling you.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
There are schools. There are school there are schools that
have interpreted what is happening right now as something that
they're not able to do under the letter of the law.
Utah is like I will see forgiveness later.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
See.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
You have to remember is that the letter of the
law depends on the state as well, So like some
states have different rules, so it may be against the
law in certain states. This is why there needs to
be national legislation that is consistent across the board that
just that just says do whatever you want, because because

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each individual state is not gonna have the same rules
and regulations, and when you don't, you're going to have
players to be like I'm not going over there to
that state because I know I can't this this, this
can't happen.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
So okay, So here's what I want. Here's what I
want you to do now, because you got some insight
on this and and you talk to me about it,
and it didn't really hit me until you talk to
me about it. I heard this and I was like,
that's a really cool thing for the Utah football players.
Might not be nil's letter of the law, but this
is exactly what I want. I want benefits, uh, you know,
I want them to get paid, but that that's probably

(34:11):
not gonna happen. So you know, I look at this
and I'm like, oh, that's really cool. I'm glad that
they have access to that. That's really good for them.
That was my immediate reaction. And then you called and
you were like, this is gonna f everybody up? Yes,
and you're and you explained it to me. So how
is it going to mess everybody up?

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Number one?

Speaker 2 (34:31):
The thing that's already screwing things up for a lot
of schools already is that promises were made and have
not been kept.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
That's number one.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
When they recruited players, they were like, we're gonna do this, this, this,
and the money that got funny, right, So that's so
that's number one, they did not undersell and over delivered.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
They have undersold.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
They have over sold and under delivered, which creates unhappiness
because the expectation something else.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
So that's first thing.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Second thing is is that now Utah has raised the
level of expectation for the other schools. And if you
look at the stuff that Deon's doing at Colorado, you
don't think Dion's trying to figure out how to get
this done at Colorado right right now, except instead of
it being like Dodge Dodge rams, it's like Benzes or
something like.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
You don't think he's trying to figure this out right now.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
If Deon don't figure, I will bet you dollars to donuts,
buddy that Colorado players have a car deal before.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Before next season starts.

Speaker 5 (35:41):
And so then the expectation is if you're a three
star corner and you can go somewhere and have a
car and go somewhere or not have a car, you're
probably gonna go somewhere that has a car.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Uh Sometimes Yeah, I mean I don't think that everybody's
gonna make a decision off a loaner car, but I
do think that it.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
No when people weigh pro and cons when they're like,
So when Adam Brenneman put that video out a while
back of like, he's like, I'm gonna explain why I
considered or didn't consider these colleges that recruited me in
five words or less. And for a lot of them,
he was like, facilities weren't great because they do they
do stack the list of like, these are my five
most important things to me. Here's the pro and con.

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And you're gonna be able to write truck in the
pro column?

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Freak.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Should I go to Falt Lake City?

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, car, yeah, so so yes.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
It is going to put some pressure on people to
do things a little bit differently which I am, which
I which I don't hate. So so yeah, even though
you want to call it an inducement, it ain't. Now
speaking of inducements or or or uninducements, the Eliza Rushing

(36:53):
decommitted from the University of Arizona. It looks like he's
getting ready to commit somewhere somewhere else in the in
the next week. But he's a five star defensive lineman
out of Arizona. It shocked the world already when he
committed there, and everybody was like, oh damn, he's staying
at home. Okay, dead fish, but it was hit. Ralph

(37:17):
felt like his decommitment letter was scorching.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
It was It wasn't scorching. It was just different. I've
never read anything like it, and i've i've I think
I brought it up to you that I've never seen
anything quite like it. Percent of the time when somebody decommits,
they're like, I want to thank the coaches who recruited me.
I'm still open to everything that's out there, but I'm

(37:44):
going to reevaluate my options at this time. That is
the typical decommitment. Did I leave anything out? That's pretty
much it, right.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Yep, yep. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Usually it respect my privacy or like to decommit. And
they don't specify whether they chose to de commit or
whether they got pushed out or whatever.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
They just said, I de committed.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Yeah. And and there are a lot of these kids
who get dropped by the schools that they were committed
to a lot of them schools.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
That's what that's something that you dub that, that's what
happened that you dub with their quarterback who's now committed
to Cow.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Right. So then and then the player will come out
and be like, I spent some time talking to my
family or in prayer, and I think it's time for
me to open up my recruiting ops Like, no, you
spend some time on the phone with your position coach
and he said, there's not a spot for you anymore.
And I wish kids would just come out and say that,
you know, but they also don't want to put themselves in.
They don't want to upset the fraternity of a.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Couple of kids who who have said that like Yo,
and it doesn't go well for them.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
It does like people attack kids for telling the truth.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Yeah, well but this this is commitment.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
Yeah, this de commitment was Elijah Rushing came out and said,
like Arizona has improved. It's very clear I am from Tucson.
The idea of being a hometown hero in Tucson was
very appealing to me. Upon further review, I don't think
this school is gonna get me where I want to go,

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so like and and that is a bitter pin.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
And he was going to sell like he was gonna
help their recruiting so much because it's like YO, five
star committed here. That means you can do it too,
And we're gonna build something special with you guys. Like
you guys are gonna be the first class that we
put together. That is because TMAC is their highest rated

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recruit of all time. Elijah Rushing was gonna be their
highest rated commit of all time.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yeah, so, like you.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Start stacking those together, you know, like one five star
is class three four four stars, next class, stack another
four or five, and that's how you build your roster out.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Granted, yes, I know.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
We we've talked about recruiting rankings in the macro versus
the micro, so we don't need to go over that again.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
But yeah, so you you have a player that comes
out and says, I don't think this school is gonna
get me where I want to go. I fully expect
fans to take that poorly. I do.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
So it's gonna hurt your feelings a little bit. And
then the way in which it happened. So here's some
here's some ancillary details. Elijah Rushing place for a school
called Tucson Salle Point. It's a private school right there
in Tucson. It's where Jon Robinson, Lathon Ransom went. The
University of Arizona's gonna be playing this year. Yeah. Uh,

(40:52):
they miss out on all they they miss out. University
of Arizona does on all the good kids out of
Cell Point. They had one committed, Traycon Moorgay, but Jedfish
dropped him and he's now the starting quarterback at Western Michigan.
So you know that's the relationship. This coaching ste to
even get people from South Point after dropping Traycon was impressive.

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And they got two guys both on the defensive line,
Keyona will Height and Elijah Rushing. Well, Keyona will Height
de committed last week and then at Friday's game, Tosh Loupoy,
the Oregon defensive coordinator, was on the sideline of the
Tucson Sallepoint game. Yeah against against Corona Del Soul, And

(41:39):
all of a sudden, after Tosh Loupoy is on the sideline,
Elijah Rushing announces, Hey, I don't think Arizona is the
school that's gonna get me where I want to go.
And so you have two kids from the same school, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, because they have two d they have two d
is there to one woman rushing in the other kids
pretty damn good too.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Yeah. Yeah, so they both decommit from Arizona Here's what
makes it even more complicated. Elijah Rushing has an older brother.
Oregon wanted him to come walk on. Florida wanted him
to come walk on. Florida got him after one year
at Florida. University of Arizona said Cruise Rushing, come on down. Yeah,

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and they brought him in through the transfer portal. He's
not playing, he's not playing. But the idea that Elijah
Rushing wouldn't have some type of insights into what's actually
going on at University of Arizona. Of course he does.
His brother plays for the team. Now, is this going
to make things hard for his brother? Probably, it's going
to make things awkward on the brother, awkward on the family.
But the fact of the matter is this kid has

(42:42):
to make their own decision. Are you getting out recruited,
are you getting outspent, you know, whatever it is, doesn't matter.
They're not your property until they show up on campus,
and even then they're not your property. They're amateur athletes,
quote unquote. So people were very upset. But we did
have some people out here saying that they wanted to

(43:03):
rally people to show up at his high school games
with signs. Chase the family out of town. Make the
rest of this kid's life miserable. Let him know he's
not welcome in Tucson. We got some really hurtful stuff
because hurt people, hurt people, and a lot of people
got their feelings hurtd by this decommitment. How weird do
you think this becomes for Arizona because it's the high

(43:25):
school in their city, it's two players, he got the
older brother on the team.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
I I think that it has become a situation where before,
so if he were thinking if he decommitted, he's been
thinking about this for quite some time, yes, because he
knows how big of an impact that it's going to

(43:55):
have on his family in the community. Right, So there
was two way for him to do this. Either de
commit now and then give the team plenty of time
to figure something else out, you know, and all and
all of that, or you wait till the last minute
the way your family can be there peacefully and then

(44:16):
bone out. Yeah, but but that's kind of cowardly, I mean,
I know. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, that's that that's not
the right right word. It's cowardly is not the right word,
because like it's like conflict avoidant because because you can

(44:36):
understand why and and that's why I didn't want to
use the word cowardly, because you can understand why a
high school kid wouldn't want to put pressure on his
family or on himself in the community that they live in,
especially with wackos out there.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
Yes, and there are some some big time wackos. Yes
you know.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yes, So so I apologize for the cowardly word. And
you guys know, if you guys have been following me
for a long time, I don't I don't issue apologies
unless I really mean it.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
So uh interestingly enough, Keona Willhight, the other player from
Cell Point that decommitted, is going to be at this
Oregon Washington game to visit Washington. What a loser you are,
You're you're already in rivalry mode. Oh yes, yes, okay, yes,

(45:33):
huck the fuskies. All right, let's jump into last week's games.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
All right, all right, yeah, so last week's games were
pretty good. We shall Let's start with that Washington State
U c L A game which which I got completely wrong,
except for we were we were right on the under

(45:59):
but the where it was only forty two point scored,
but the yeah, but the team that we thought was
gonna win did not win. Cam Rising, I'm cam Rising
cam Ward. He looked exactly like the cam Ward I
didn't like last year.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
Maybe worse.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah, holding on to the ball, just trying to wait
for a big play, not playing on time. It was
and granted credit to UCLA's defense because they put him
in an absolute headlock.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
And Ralph was wanting.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
To throw throw things because aside from the cam Ward
seven runs for minus twelve yards, they only had twelve
rushing attempts, which which Ralph absolutely hates. Ucla ran the
ball fifty three times, fifty three times. The blonde hair
bandit steel without there in.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
The ball, all over people. It was a blazer hot day.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
In the Rose Bowl, Dante Moore went fifty percent for
two ninety one touchdown, two picks, and he is he
reminds me of this situation with him. It reminds me
a lot of the same thing that happened with Dorian
Thompson Robinson at UCLA, where as a freshman he makes

(47:23):
you want to throw things sometimes, but then he'll do
something like he'll have like back to back throws and
you're like, oh my god, this kid is gonna be
a freaking problem.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
And then you'll be like, why would you do that?
Why would you do that?

Speaker 2 (47:38):
And that's freshman behavior playing big time ball, And Chip's
gonna stick with him because as soon as you get
to the point where you're like, bro, he's got to
come out, he does some stuff and you're like, hell no,
don't take him out.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
If people think you're all over the place with this take,
they should try being on the phone with you while
Dante Moore is playing, because he'll make a throw and
it'll be like whoa, and you'll be like, he's going
to be a legend. And then the next play I'll
be like, but did you see that one? And you're like,
what one? Just you just put those blinders on man,

(48:15):
And I get it, I get it. He has flashed
some really like high high level talent. This game was
cool for him, it was cool for UCLA, but mostly
it was just frustrating to find out that Washington State
is fake.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
They came in number what thirteen in the nation? Brody
looked fakered and like, granted, I do believe that you
CLA should be in the top twenty five, but damn,
bro you said it hurt your feelings?

Speaker 4 (48:48):
Yes, are you ready? Are you ready for this? Are
you ready for this?

Speaker 3 (48:53):
Yeah? Okay, come on, come on, bringing.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
Washing Washington State had two hundred and sixteen yards. Yeah,
total eleven first downs, total four turnovers. They got beat
on time of possession thirty eight minutes to twenty one.
And and are you ready for the kicker? What? They

(49:18):
were winning this damn game in the fourth quarter. Yes,
that's what the hell? Yes, they were winning.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
That's the that's the cod part. Yes, they were winning
when the fourth quarter start.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
It feels like they lost by a thousand. Yes, it
feels like they took the biggest, most dominant loss of
the weekend of anybody in college. Not like they got
choked out, like they couldn't do anything.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Do you know what that.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Is?

Speaker 2 (49:50):
That when when I pulled up the score right right
now on the tab that I had open, I.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Was like, damn, that game is closer than I remember. Yes,
that's what I'm saying. The game felt this was a.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Eight point victory, and it felt like they won by
four touchdowns.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Have you ever seen that movie? Liar liar, Yes, Well,
they walk into the bathroom and Jim Carrey's beating himself
up in the bathroom. Yes, and they're like, what are
you doing. He's like, I'm kicking my ass mine. That's
what watching this Washington State team felt like on Saturday.
They were just out there, like trying as hard as

(50:31):
they could to be awful. Yeah, I thought they were legit.
So tell me this is this de'anton lynn because I
thought it was wild that Chip Kelly hired a d
court after we begged him for years to make a
change at decordinator. He finally did, and then unfortunately Bill
McGovern the replacement passed away and so he had to

(50:51):
make another DC hired. It was like, oh, you know,
he hates just even having to do this in the
first place. He goes out and gets the Raven's safety coach,
who's never called the defense in life, and they agree
to pay this man two hundred thousand more dollars than
anyone has ever made as a coordinator at UCLA. And
I was like, this is this is one of the
most insane things Chip Kelly's ever done. Well, guess what

(51:12):
I was wrong. It is the greatest hire anybody's ever
made in the history of the world. Oh okay, No,
So their defense looks very very much.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Oh br They are number one in the conference in
total defense two hundred and fifty four yards a game.
They are number two in the conference in scoring defense,
only giving up eleven sorry third in scoring defense giving
up twelve point two points per game.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
That's all they're given up. And they're gonna be like
because I don't feel like they gotta have a ton
of stars on defense. No, they're gonna be like the
first team in history to finish number one in the
conference in defense and not have like any first teamers. Yeah,
this is a coaching job.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Yes, they are scheming the hell And this is why
I said. I tweeted out UCLA that Dante Moore next
year should be a problem and this team should be
really good. I know that they got to get back
into portal and all of this stuff because they have
a bunch of seniors on defense, But the reality is
they got some good young players too. This defense is

(52:22):
going to be good again next year because people are
gonna want to play in it, particularly if they get
a few players drafted.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
You're gonna have.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
People wanting to play in this In this defense, they're
going to the big ten yo Ucla might actually be
in a really good if they can figure out their
their offense, they're gonna put USC in a headlock at
the end of this season. I don't know if they're
gonna win it, but that game is gonna be a
lot closer. That games gonna be a lot closer than

(52:49):
people think it's gonna be. All right, Next game up,
Colorado at Arizona State, Colorado twenty seven, Arizona State twenty four.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
The chore.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
The store If a seventy thousand dollars watches flexed in
the forest and no one is around to hear it,
did it actually happen?

Speaker 3 (53:13):
No?

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Because it was on PACK twelve network, and I guess
that's where we'll start.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Was the first thing because you had so many people
talk about ha ha, Colorado.

Speaker 6 (53:21):
Nobody's talking about them because they took two losses, ha ha.
And we were like, welcome to the PAC twelve network, buddy,
And you had so many people because I've been waiting
to laugh about this because we've tweeted it out for
the PAC twelve apostles or webs Twitter. We've been waiting

(53:41):
on people to the new baby Colorado fans to be
like wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Where's the game? Where's the game?

Speaker 2 (53:49):
My wife asked me, was like, Yo, what channel is
the Colorado game on?

Speaker 3 (53:53):
I was like, PAC twelve Networks. She was like, fuck irs.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
There was somebody that I said that I was going
to retweet everybody who like just discovered the pleasure of
trying to find a game. I retweeted over one hundred
tweets and I lost more than two hundred followers because
of it, and it was worth it to me. And
there was one tweet that sticks out in my mind

(54:22):
above all the others, and it was somebody tweeted, man,
you got PACK twelve network. You must have that good
ass Cable's got that good ass cable. It was so
funny to watch people not be able to watch it.
The funniest one was because every single week of Jason

(54:42):
Whitlock being like Dion Sanders, fake football coach, fake Christian
ruining college football, and then he was tweeting out like, hey,
how do I get this Colorado game? So all he
talks about is it. He couldn't even hate it because
watch it. And you got to understand if you follow

(55:03):
Jason Whitlock for a long time, like this man used
to ask people to post his articles for him because
he didn't understand how to copy and paste on a computer.
So like he was an online columnist who didn't even
understand the very basics of technology for years. If you
go back, there's probably hundreds of tweets of Jason Whitlock saying,

(55:23):
can someone please post my article for me that I
just wrote? Can somebody go to Fox Sports and post
it and I'll retweet you. So you got to understand that, like,
this is a man who probably spends forty eight hours
sweating if he has to learn how to use a
new remote control. So like the idea that he was
like waddling around his bachelor pad looking for a way

(55:45):
to get this game is so funny to me, So
funny to me.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Dude, I can't wait for because on a side note,
I can't wait for one of these women to break
their nda is that they've signed about about his exploits
and his his fake Christian behavior.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
But that's a whole nother that's a whole other topic.

Speaker 4 (56:09):
Well, none of it will involve using technology, correctly.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Correct, You're right about that, all right, So back to Colorado.
This was another game where Shador Sanders he was outstanding
when it mattered the most, he was outstanding.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
And I looked.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
At it and I was like, Okay, bro, he is
he looks really good and this is something that he
has continuously shown us, and he.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
People saying he takes sas on purpose. You believe that?

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Oh? Okay?

Speaker 4 (56:45):
Also, is that is that like a a bat? Like?
Does that make you a bad person?

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Okay, So you're you're talking to the person who despises
NBA players when they when they have a chance to
shoot a half court shot at at the end of
a quarter and they intentionally wait until the buzzer runs out.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
So you're talking to that person.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
So the answer to your question is I I hate
it if if this is true, and I said that
I was gonna watch the game and investigate it. And
there is some evidence that they're that that could be true, but.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
I hope not.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
I'm not gonna go that far because some people have
taken it way too far. I'm not gonna go that far.
But yeah, it's not it's that would be better.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
To the untrained eye. To quote Lincoln Riley, I don't
I'm not actually seeing this. Yeah, it to me, it
looks like he's just getting hit a lot because his
O line is really bad.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Which could be it too. That's why, that's why I
I'm not ready to make that assertion. And I'm not
watching the all twenty two, so I can't see what
the coverage looks like to say, oh, he's turning down throws.
He threw the ball forty two times, so it's hard
to say he's turning down a whole lot of throws.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
You know what I'm saying. Colorado still cannot run the football.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Still they ran it thirty times. Bro imagine running the
ball thirty times.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
For fifty six yards.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Oh well, I bet you can imagine it if you're
Arizona State, who ran it twenty nine times for fifty
seven yards twins so yards two point oer yards per
carry versus one point nine per carry.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
They still can't protect the quarterback, they still can't run
the ball, and they still can't play man coverage. But
they did a good job against the running this game.
I want to give him credit for that. So Arizona
State got the ball at like the six yard line,
had a ninety four year.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Miller nowhere to be found, one catch for nine yards.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
But number four who uh.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Jogone Antonio, Oh my god, he was a star, bros.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
A star.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
It wasn't It was not the same. He is not
the type of athlete that because oh, you bought that
last ball and failed down, I was like, what are
you doing? I would have been ready to throw things
at it.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
But he also caught his first touchdown, I think, in
this game. And so I'm saying that, like, I think
it's a hallmark of a good coach that you can
get somebody to pop off every single week.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Like oh yeah, yeah, not just Jimmy Horn or Michael Harrison, yeah,
or Hankerson, It's it's Agree Weaver.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
It's been Miller. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
Arizona State was down twenty four to seventeen. They had
the ball to six, They went ninety four yards and scored,
and then Kenny Dillingham did not go for two. And
after the game he was like, look, the analytics tell
me that putting Colorado in a situation where they're down
one when we're at home would create in them more

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of a sense of urgency to be aggressive on the
offensive side wall And so that's what he had to
say about that. And then Colorado came out as they
were very aggressive on the offensive side.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
They left the well, they they busted coverage, They left
them wide ass open on the first first play.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
Yes, all right, so let's get to the let's get
to the to the thing that happened after the game,
the two things that happened after the game there. Yeah,
So after the game at Colorado kicks a game winning
field goal, Shador Sanders runs over to he puts a
seventy thousand dollars watch on, runs over to the student section,
waves it in their face. People throw a couple of

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water bottles, and he's followed by three camera member, three
people filming, including Dion Junior, who's doing his weekly like
hour long YouTube video of the of the of the
Colorado's game. So it was pre planned, right. People said
the student section was being nasty, student section was being
a student section. Yeah, yeah, every game.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Every time student sections really go too far is if
they call you out of your name, or they do
what Oregon's some students did from Oregon's student section against BYU.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
A year ago.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
Yeah, or you can't go too far, Yeah you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Yes, there there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Are limits, but typically student sections are just student sections.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
Yeah. Yeah, and it's and then if they taunt you
all game long and you taunt them back once like,
that doesn't bother me at all. The watch thing I
don't like, but that's another conversation for another time, because
it reminds me of the money Man's out thing. I
think it'll age weird, but I don't. But the fact
that he taunted the student section, I don't care. Don't
love that they threw water bottles. But I was at
a game last night Appalachian State and Coastal Carolina where

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they walk off field goal, an offensive line from from
Coastal Carolina ran over to the student section mock them.
They threw a beer and he picked it up and
drank it. So like it happens. It's not just Shaduur.
The the white kids over on the East Coast are
doing it too, like everybody does it. He's are college kids,
So that didn't bother me. But also on the last play,

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Elijah Badger ran out of bounds, but he dropped the ball. Uh,
Jordan Dominic picked it up and I didn't even Camp
Scataboat laid him out. And then so a bunch of
people have said that like ASU is dirty. Uh, that's
Camp scatterby he.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Was trying to return it for a touchdown. Like I
didn't see it until after until you pointed it out.
Because when when when he ran out of bounce, I
turned agay, I meet my eyes averted from the television.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
I just I just wanted to say that, like zero
of any of those things bother me at all. I
don't even find them interesting. I think people like to
debate Colorado, whether somebody else class or not. Shador did
take someone's mouthpiece out of their helmet this week and
throw it into the crowd. Shamari Simmons a safety for
a se I thought that was a little weird.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
You don't touch another man's mouth piece.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
Well, he already put his finger in somebody's eyeball. He's
not being COVID safe. Yes, the only thing that can
can stop shandor Sanders now is bacteria.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Oregon State fifty to Cow forty ralph.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
This is not how I expected this game to go.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
Up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Where's Oregon State's defense first and foremost? And I know
that they forced you know that they forced a turnover.
I'm sorry they forced two turnovers and picks, but they
gave up forty points to Cow Ralph forty points to cow.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
To air first time starter at quarterback as well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Yeah, and when you look Oregon State, they gave up
a bunch of points to Washington State two in their
in their loss.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
I don't know, brother, we.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
We might need to be side eye in the Beavers
defense right now.

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
I agree they they did not look athletic, They did
not look inspired. They just looked I mean massive holes.
Cal was opening massive holes for Fonse and ought they're
just that. I think they're just not a good defensive team.
Many they were optimistic.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
They turn over forty cal Ras for two hundred and
forty one yards on thirty three attempts, seven point three
yards of carry.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
M Yeah, man, I think you're right. I think that
Oregon State just has an old school like I mean,
like twenty tens level PAC twelve defense. They just got
outscore you at this point and right and and as
far as the things look right now, they can't. They
can get to forty each game if they need to.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that because when you
look at their stats, they are averaging thirty nine, thirty
eight and a half points per game while only giving
up nineteen point six. But that number is gonna go
way up because their competition is changing.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
So hey, before we before we get into the depressing
subject of cal football, can we talk about some of
the stuff we liked in this game. It's kind of
the perfect DJU game. Yes, dude didn't throw a lot
of passes falls yep, didn't turn the ball over his

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second third, five touchdown game in the season.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Like, dude, this was what people were looking for when
Dju stepped foot on campus.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
Is and if his dad was on.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Social media super proud and everything, and like, this is
what Clemson fans wanted. Granted, their offense doesn't look all
that great with kay Klubnick now either. It looks spotty
there too, but this is definite. He is definitely an
upgrade over what Oregon State had at the quarterback position
last year.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
I don't think he's an.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
NFL player, but he can be a good college quarterback
for the next for this year and next year because
he's because I think he's got one more year of
eligibility left after this one.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
So yeah, yeah, so he's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Got a shot, dude, and this team is much better
with him. I think it's gonna be hard fending off
aiden Childs in the spring.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
But he got more mening meaningful reps. Yep, he threw
a touchdown pass in this game. Uh stared down his
receiver the entire time and still pulled it off. But
he threw a touchdown pass.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
And this Oregon State team, they're ranked where they're sitting
at five and one right now, they're right, I mean,
they're not right where they want it to be, because
they wanted to be a six.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
And zero right right now.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
But if you had told Oregon State fans prior to
the season, especially with the way everything is gone, truth
be told, they still control their own destiny.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
The Yeah, but that destiny that's a barbed wire covered
baseball bat the second half of their schedule.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
You yeah, but but but at the end of the day,
you still control it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
I guess. I guess having UCLA, Washington and Oregon left
is I mean, it's take it one game at a time, whatever.
But I looked you and I were looking at this
upcoming Washington State Ucla game and it was like, oh,
if UCLA wins this game, they might have an easy
path to eleven and one. Well, what if Washington State
wins this game, we looked at the second half of
the schedule and we were like, uh, it's gonna be

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hard regardless. So that makes this UCLA game really important.
So I think Silas Boldon probably has to touch the
ball all purpose more than seven times. He did fumble
in this game, but he to me the most dynamic
player on that offense. I like see him get them
a little bit more. Uh. They had balance with their
running backs for the first time in a while. It
seems like they go heavy some weeks with Fenwick, some

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heavy some weeks with Martinez. Uh, and then Jack Velling.
We got to mention him because three touchdowns on four
catches is Yes, it's pretty wild.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Ye.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
I don't know if we're going to have another game
like that, especially considering I think he can.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
It's already hard to have three touchdowns in a game
like so, so so forget three on four catches, just
three touchdowns period is already hard.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
Enough to come back.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
He had five in his career coming into that game
and left with eight.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
He like yank yank yank ah. Yeah, so he's super
excited about that. And but the as far.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
As cow Man, I'm out on Will Cox, I'm out.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Wow, you like, how how out are you?

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
I don't I was never in like hout like okay, guys,
it's time for him to go or out as in
I'm just don't even want to talk about it anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
Did you ever? Were you ever like two three weeks
into a school year and you're like, Okay, I think
this teacher is all right, Like they're fine, but I
don't think they have a plan. I don't think they
actually come in here knowing what they're doing. Like, I
don't think they have Yeah, I'm like, I don't think

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he has a goal for where this is gonna go.
I don't think he I don't know. Maybe it's because
we have so many new coaches in the PAC twelve
and they're all talking about their vision and what they're building,
And what's Cal's vision? What are they building? What's the
whole point of what they're doing out there? What is it?
What's their identity?

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
Damn?

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
Why would you go to Cal over another school?

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
What Cal is? What you? What quarterback trends for you? What?
What are they?

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
School? You school? You Berkeley the university? Right, that's that's
why you go to Cal? Right now?

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
It's it's not I mean because their their defense used
to be the thing where like all right, look, if
you're a dB linebacker, you know, a defensive player in general,
you want to come here, We're gonna coach the hell
out of you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
You're gonna go to the league.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Like that was the thing, like kind of kind of
like it was at Washington for a while, and now
Washington is like, no, no, nobody put up.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Them points and cal is they don't. They don't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
We don't know what they want to be right now.
They feel like a team without an identity. Their quarterback
situation has been atrocious.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Last year.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
They couldn't protect the quarterback, not even the I mean
they don't.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Alm has got poor uh Plumber killed and for.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
Top twenty five Louisville quarterback Jack Plumber, I've seen him
have success elsewhere. Has got to be a bitter pill.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Yeah, and they're not.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Yeah, they just don't look good, dude, Like that's it's
just it's actually quite sad because you know, I know Justin,
but his team is three and three at this point
in time, they really should be four and two because
they shouldn't have lost that damn Auburn.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
Game, right, they shouldn't have lost the Auburn game.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
So I can I think that that's gonna be the
thing that's gonna keep them. Actually, can I tell you
that there's there's no way to make a ball game?

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
Actually tell you, yes, I just want to. Can I
tell you the very petty reason that I'm out on Cal?

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
Because I mean you could say, yeah, it's the results,
it's the history. They've not done anything. They're not showing progress.
You don't know where they're taking this whole thing. They
don't have a lot of you know, personality or continuity,
and they've gone through multiple decordinators of coordinators. You can
give a lot of reasons. This is my reason and
it's super specific, and maybe it makes me sound like

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an insane person. When Cal, or when Oregon State was
up fourteen to three on cow they got a goofy
and aggressive and they on side kicked it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
Cal had a linebacker named Ryan McCulla, talented freshman field
the onside kick yep, okay, and run it back to
the twenty yard line.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
You can't do So what do you mean if you, oh,
you're talking about that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
Oregon State was up fourteen three day on side kick? Yes,
and Ryan McCulla recovered the on.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Side and ranack to the twenty.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
Okay, yeah, exciting, fun, awesome play pumped new life into Cal,
who was down fourteen to three, couldn't stop anybody on defense,
put them in a position to score. I mean, like,
I got up off the couch. I thought it was awesome,
just a fun, fun play.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
Camera pans over to Justin Wilcox and he's got that
same I don't want to be here, stuck at the
dmvde dead inside look on his face that he always has,
and I'm just like, funny for him. Yeah, it was,

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and it was right at that moment. And what's funny
is is Cal went on to score another like thirty
seven points in this game, But it was at that
moment where I was like, oh, he doesn't even like
being here, Like, this is a game, it's supposed to
be fun, and his team just got a new lease
on life. Everybody's celebrating, well this game was at Cal. Yeah,

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and he did not seem to take care.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
That dude.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
He never looks happy no matter, no matter what happens, damn.

Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
And I was like, man, if he's not even having
fun out there, why do.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
This even Savan gets happy sometimes.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
Man, there's an offensive coordinator in Las Vegas, Nevada right
now that would have been running up and down the sideline,
grabbing everybody by the face mask, firing him up after
a play like that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
No, you are yes, yes, and you're talking about Brennan,
Brennan Mary and he absolutely would.

Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
Have and he'd probably have a vision for where this
is gone. I just I'm out. I'm out. I think
he's a good football coach. Doesn't look like he's having
any fun out there. Cal's gonna be mediocre forever. This
is year seven. They have no direction. In year seven,
they're just chilling so open to.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
People pointed to the COVID year and the year after
as like.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
But we're too the thing everyone went through.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Yeah, but they they they did have different restrictions there
and stuff like that. But he has had two years
to get things back on track after that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
Yeah. I don't know, man, it just doesn't look like
he's enjoying himself. And you know, they he brought in
an offensive coordinator that I think is doing a really
good job. They got a good running game, They're they're
kind of in quarterback hell right now. But you know,
they did some positive things this week. I guess shout
out to Fernando Mendoza. That was cool, right, He's like

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a mix of Sam Jackson, Like, you know, he did
a little bit. He's a he's a big dude, but
he doesn't play like he's six ' five to twenty.
He can move a little bit. Yeah. I like the
way he handled the offense. You know, I don't know
if they're still trying to figure out Sam Jackson, Ben
Finley or Mendoza, but this was an encouraging game, and
I'm interesting what they do going forward.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Yeah, the answer is Mendoza, at least for this week. Okay,
Now the next thing his you have USC forty three
Arizona forty one. We talked about it a little bit briefly.
This game went in a triple overtime. Dude, the last

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what three minutes, No, the last like two minutes of
the game was like watching the Three Stooges.

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
It was like your child's brain at the end of
a day at Disneyland.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Dude, a zone apple Arizona kicking a fifty yard field
goal and kind of relenting to that on third down mistake, mistake,
your kicker has never even attempted a kick that long.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
It wasn't close. It bad decision. And then at that
point you were just like, USC's gonna win it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
It's over, it's over. Prior to them even taking a snap,
you knew the game was over. And then USC gets
all the way down and they are on the edge
of field goal range, have a long run but there
and it was on third down, so you were like, yo,
if they can make us, he attempt a long field goal.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
Then they got a shot us. He gets down to super.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
Close field goal, right, I forgot how close it was,
and they iced the kicker. He makes the kick, and
I told my family, My whole family is sitting there
and I'm like, he's gonna miss this kick.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Watch guarantee.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
I was like, I would bet my next check he
misses the kick, or something happens to get a penalty.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
Any something's going to happen. High snap.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
What actually prior to that, Caleb Williams fumbled the ball
on the play before and something else happened.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
You were just like, are they trying to lose?

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
And then the field goal high snap, he puts it down,
squatting down.

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
Squatting Yeah, squatting unbelievable, and then he tried to kick
the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
It was terrible.

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
Then what are the players? He got hurt? On the play.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Game goes into old time. USC goes to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Go score, scores, it makes the extra point, Arizona comes
back immediately scores.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Why didn't Jed fish go for two?

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
That is the exact spot you want to be in
the game.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
Jed in the game, but he played the game like
they were the better team.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
Dude, you got your shot, knock him out or take
your l You can't keep playing this like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
we're battling this out. This is USC Oregon. This is Washington, Oregon.
This is Washington USC.

Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
No, bro, and you don't want to think of it
this way, but it's a no fault loss. If you
go for two and you don't get it when.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
You're it's a no fault loss.

Speaker 4 (01:18:58):
I love that with a quarterback in his second ever start.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
Bro, you're playing with house money, go for two, Jed.
So anyways, he doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Go for two.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
They get the ball into overtime and second overtime score
immediately and then go for two. Don't get it, and
then USC scores. They go for two. They don't get it,
but that play, Like people tried to make all of
these other plays about Caleb Williams, that throw he made
on that two point conversion when he god I was

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I was like like, like, that's like football wet dreaming
bro like that, And it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
Wasn't even it And it wasn't even his best play
of his worst game of the season. Isn't that a
crazy statement? Because he got stuffed at the goal line,
rolled out, carried the dude into the end zone, and
laid across him to put the ball over the goal line. Yeah,

(01:20:03):
that was some like, oh he can do that too,
Like that's yes. The debate over is is he not
going to get drafted? Number one is over? But this
is his work.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
He feels away.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
He found a way even through he was off Arizona's
Now now granted, some of him being off was his
own fault, because and I told this to a couple
of people, is that Caleb Williams fell victim to every

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the exact same thing that I would have fallen victim
to you everybody else. Listening to the press clippings. Shooting
for the Heisman, it started out bad and then he
kept trying to make a big play instead of trying
to make a play like so, instead of just picking
up first downs, picking up first downs three yards here,

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five yards here. He was like, Oh, he's searching for
the big play. Arizona was like, ain't no big play
to be to be found here today?

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
Buddy right and and Michael Pennix had the patience the
week before to be like, oh, you're gonna give me
ten yards, I'll take it every time. I'll take it
every time. And came out of there with what it
was said, seven points, but it really was an easy win.
Came out of there with an easy win, didn't throw
any touchdowns but still through for three hundred yards and

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Caleb Williams only throw for like two hundred yards. Arizona's
pretty good on defense this year, man, Yeah, pretty good
on improve no matter what their potential four or five
star recruits think. Yep, feel bad for him, but it
is what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
Yeah. So, and then in triple.

Speaker 4 (01:21:45):
Overtime, are you mad about Jed not really knowing the
overtime rules? A lot of people have made fun of
him for that, but like they're dumb and confusing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
See, I wasn't sure when they were talking about that,
which part of the overtime rules didn't he understand?

Speaker 4 (01:21:59):
He sent his kicker out for the double overtime extra point.
There is no extra point in double overtime. It's two
point conversion. Okay, so they had like call timeout or whatever.
He was getting made fun of a lot for that.
But like, the new overtime rules are very bad and dumb. Yes,
they're bad.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
And then my main grievance is, once you reach triple overtime,
you and you are the team that goes second. If
the team that goes first gets the two point conversion
right off the bat, there's no built in option to
win the game. You can only tie. So they're trying
to have less plays, less injuries, less time go by,

(01:22:40):
but you can only tie.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
Yeah, yes, yes, I hate that as the need for
another play, yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
And more commercials, more time outs, the things that actually
take up a bunch of time.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
And then Arizona's two point play in triple overtime that
toss to their back up running back.

Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
It was very funny.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
Your quarterback's already thrown five touchdowns, what are you doing fam.

Speaker 4 (01:23:07):
Four of them to Jacob counting. Hey, how about this.
Are you ready for this? Are you ready for this?
I'm about to blow your mind.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Number one, does Jacob Cowing have any eligibility left?

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Okay, I was gonna I was gonna say, because if
that graduates, we know where he'll play next year.

Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
Yeah. I don't think so, because he played three years
at UTAP and this is his second year at Arizona. Okay,
So I think he's got the COVID free year in there.
So I think he's a senior. Who are the players
and I'll let you look it up. Who are the
players that USC took off of Arizona's roster?

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Oh, the the the y Receivertorian Singer.

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
Okay, do you know what his statistics were in this game?

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
He hilicolled the wall like twice. I think, either either
once or twice.

Speaker 4 (01:24:04):
Uh, you have overestimated it. He caught it zero times.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Oh, he must have thrown it to him once then
and he didn't And there was some kind of way
that it didn't didn't get get caught because I definitely
remember seeing Dorian Singer on the television screen. Yeah, and
then and then the hyphenated dB kid, uh, Christian Christian Wallace. Yep,

(01:24:28):
he had he had he had four tackles.

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:24:31):
But no, they didn't slow anybody down. They had a
guy in a second ever start catch three hundred yards
or the passes.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
And then there was one more, the defensive tackle.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
Mm hmm. His name is Keon Bars and after the
game he tweeted best record I've ever had, most wins
I've ever had in a season, to which Arizona fans responded,
you don't play.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
Oh h damn.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
At blood. All's fair in love and war, question.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Work he plays. He had one tackle? Okay, yeah, he
had one tackle. He was in there.

Speaker 4 (01:25:19):
Is that a little bit of a moral victory for
Arizona that they're the people that left the team. None
of them had a good game.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
Yes, one hundred percent, one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
And can I and I know that we're not supposed
to treat, you know, college players like pro players, but
can we talk about justin flow for a quick second.
He had two tackles in his game, one solo, but
he did have a sack tackle for loss. Bad penalty
at the end on a third down because USC got

(01:25:52):
new life twice on a pass on pass interference calls
oh and on the late.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Hit, and.

Speaker 4 (01:26:04):
That was the full Justin Flow experience. Yeah, he belongs
somewhere on first and second down that gives the ball
to two hundred and thirty pound running backs because he's
one of the only people on earth that can stop them.

(01:26:28):
Anything outside of that, he has not shown that he's dependable,
not in pass rush, which, by the way, Arizona was
more successful in the rushing Caleb Williams than anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Yes, that was I'm glad you brought that up, because
that was the thing that was probably stuck out the
most was that they couldn't block them.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
Yeah, Russell Davis's kid, Duce Davis. Yep, he's good. He's
gonna be real good. He's very, very good at what
he does. But no, Justin Flow, Justin Flow might be
one of the best players in the country when it
comes to like run defense on first, second down. I
don't know if you trust him in any other situation.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Oh yeah, I don't think you can at at all,
not even a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
All right on to this week.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
So the first game that we have up is the
first game that we have up is Stanford at Colorado.
And where do we stand on that game. Let me
pull up the over under and the lines.

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
And Colorado's what like an eleven and a half point
favorite at home, and I think the over under is
fifty nine. If I'm remembering correctly, I can get my
The line might have closed a little bit, but I
think it was eleven and a half and fifty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
Okay, So who do you have with that? With that spread? Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:28:05):
I like Colorado because it it's gonna be at a
sold out fulsome right, it's gonna be at seven pm.
It's crazy to me that Stanford, as bad as they are,
is getting a seven pm ESPN kickoff.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Because that's the only time to get Dion on television, dude,
because the the only other options, right, because ABC took
Oregon Washington, NBC had USC Notre Dame, Fox took u
c l A Oregon State, So the only other option
was either Arizona Washington State, which is probably a better game,

(01:28:47):
or col Utah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
Or Stanford Colorado.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
Well well, actually, but that game is on Friday, too,
so that's it's different.

Speaker 4 (01:28:59):
Hey. By the way, we're tied. We were officially tied
against the spread for the season. What eighteen and ten,
I'm eighteen and ten. You're eighteen and ten. You do
have a one pick lead on me. You're fifteen and
nine in the over unders, okay, and I'm I'm I

(01:29:21):
think fourteen and ten, so i gotta tell yeah, we're close,
so running neck and neck, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
So I'm going to take Colorado minus eleven and a
half and I'm going to take the Now, Stanford is
going to slow the game down and all that stuff.
Oregon only score forty two points. They only ran three
plays in the first quarter. Mm hmm, and that could
happen to Well, Colorado's actually doing a decent job stopping

(01:29:48):
to run right now, and Stanford can't pass the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:29:52):
So but they also do not turn the ball over,
so they'll bleed the clock they've done in weeks and
weeks in a row.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Yeah, but they're still gonna get down by fourteen points
and give me Colorado. I'm just concerned about this over
under a fifty nine, but I under Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
Gonna take the under on this too. I could see
like a forty two twenty six game.

Speaker 4 (01:30:16):
Well, that's hitting me over pretty hard. Oh damn. Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
Then then in that case, yeah, give me give me
the over because I can't count today because that's seventy five.

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
But anyways, all right, next game up on Saturday cal Utah.
Utah's favored by thirteen and a half points over under
a meager forty five and a half m It's in
Salt Lake City at rice Eco Stadium. I am going

(01:30:49):
to smash smash the.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
Under in this game forty.

Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
Five bro okay, because you have somebody making their second start,
Everett quarterback against the Utah defense. I like that logic.
I'll go with you on the under. Yeah, are you
taking cal to cover because that seems to.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
Be yes, I'm taking call to cover.

Speaker 4 (01:31:17):
All right. And the assumption is is because Cam Rising's
probably not gonna play, And for the first time ever,
we know he probably shouldn't play. We know that now
because Kyle Whittingham every single week has been like, well,
we don't know, we don't know, we don't know, took
him to pack twelve media Day, trots him out before
every game to do some warm ups. Cam Rising talked

(01:31:40):
candidly about his injury. There's no reason for him to
even be thinking about play.

Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
He could actually get a.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
If I were if I were Cam Rising, depending on
where I was going to be drafted, I would probably
consider filing a hardship waiver, which I bet. I bet
he's filed the hardship way if I if I had
to bet, I would bet he's filed the hardship waiver

(01:32:13):
and or is going to depending on the time that
it's due. And we may see him back next year.

Speaker 4 (01:32:22):
I mean he'll have a truck.

Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
He probably already could have could afford a truck row.

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
Yeah. I like Cam Rising and I want the best
for him. Uh, the knee injury that he is describing
is not something that you should be coming back from
nine months in.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
No, no, no, no, no, that's a that's a that's
a year, daddy right there.

Speaker 4 (01:32:46):
Yeah, and it's a year. It's a it's a year
injury plus maybe longer if you're considering that what you're
coming back to is to play Utah's brand of football.

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
Yeah, yeah, I would not be surprised if if because
they say he's been clear to practice, but being clear,
I don't think that he's out there practicing with the team.
I think he's out there just like working out on
the side, probably throwing balls, doing some handoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:33:14):
Right, because we're talking about getting him back and being like,
all right, go out there and play or again, yeah,
Arizona State, whose defense is not friendly at all, like that,
that's not going to be easy even though it's at home.
Then you got let's go to Seattle in the cold.

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
Yep, and you got to make plays against USC.

Speaker 4 (01:33:35):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know, man, I think maybe call it.
I don't know. You know, obviously, all that's gonna be
up to Cam Rising whatever. But when when he came
out and talked about the kind of injury that he had,
it was like, oh, why did why have we been
playing this game at all? It never should have had
they been open about what the injury was. And I

(01:33:56):
feel like he was open about what the injury was
out of frustration because the more that Kyle Whittingham is
hush hush and it's not really his place to be
talking about what kind of injury it is. Yeah, but
he's he's out here trying to play mind games and
preparation games. When and but then people are you know,
it comes back as negativity and pressure on Cam Rising,

(01:34:17):
who is spending all day every day trying to get healthy.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
Yeah, and people are like, why aren't you coming back?
When are you coming.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
Back, Bro, because of blue madamn knee out. Buddy, all right,
next game up, twelve thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
It's the show, last the game we've been waiting on.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Game We've been waiting on Oregon, Washington, in Seattle at
Husky Stadium, Josh Pat and everybody else in name Mama
will be there. Game Day's gonna be there everything it. No,
I can't because they've been plays on Friday and it's
a twelve thirty kick, so I can't get up to
Seattle all time.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
Plus, they don't like you like that out there in Seattle, Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
No, Bro, God, listen, listen.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
Listen them Seattle people, man, they know they know who
I am.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
They you know.

Speaker 4 (01:35:07):
Oh I'm not. I'm not talking about you playing for
organ I'm talking about you not knowing anything about Nirvana.

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
I know everything about it. Haven't you seen my Nirvana shirt?

Speaker 4 (01:35:15):
Bro? Come on, Yes, I have.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
Tour shirt.

Speaker 4 (01:35:19):
Come on, bro, Yeah, that's like me wearing an n
w A shirt.

Speaker 3 (01:35:23):
No it's not, dude. I got an AC DC shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
I got a Rolling Stones, got all the all the
great millions.

Speaker 4 (01:35:31):
You know what I'm wrong, You're right. Let's just tell
the people. Let's look right into the camera, eyes on,
eyes on the camera. I want to see your eyes
on the camera. Tell them your two favorite Nirvana songs.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
Listen, listen. Yet you're not gonna pin me into now.

Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
There's too many to choose, too many.

Speaker 3 (01:35:49):
To choose from.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
It's like the scriptures, man, you you can't pick a
fa Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:35:55):
But yeah, like Trump said, there's two Corinthians.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
Dude, there's too there's Yeah, it's too it's it's too much,
it's too much.

Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
Like I don't I don't want to like alienate people
about this. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:36:14):
And it's not like they've heard all your comments on
Pearl Jam either, another Seattle band.

Speaker 3 (01:36:19):
Dude, Pearl Pearl pro DRAMs amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:36:21):
Bro, I'm gonna put this clip up next to everything
else you've ever said about.

Speaker 3 (01:36:28):
What do you What are you talking about? Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
I mean, I mean if you must know, you can
play silver, you can play dumb, you can play you know,
come come as you are, any of those things.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
Bro. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:36:40):
Man, I also have Google dot com or did you
use or did you use Being this time?

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
Who has Being on their computer?

Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
I don't know. Who doesn't know anything about Nirvana? Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
I know everything about it? Okay, all right, all right,
you made me lose track of what we were doing,
all right?

Speaker 4 (01:37:03):
Or Oregon talking about how the people of Seattle love
George Reister.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
Yeah, they they accept me for who I am. Some
of them are a little upset that on my videos
that I use a Washington hus that Washington football team
logo instead of the Huskies logo.

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
But it is what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:37:21):
Purple is not your color.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
Washington minus three over under sixty seven. I'll let you go.

Speaker 4 (01:37:29):
First, over over you sure? Yes, no, actually no, not
sure about any of them. No, I'm gonna take the
I'm gonna take the I'm gonna take the over. I
think it'll be I think both teams get a three
in front. Now, if it's like thirty one thirty, I'm

(01:37:52):
in trouble, right, But yes, I think both teams are
hitting thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
Give me the Ducks, give me the under. This game
is going to be like thirty eight. Actually, what's what's that?
Twenty eight, thirty one, thirty four, thirty seven, So give
me thirty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
Twenty twenty four.

Speaker 4 (01:38:25):
Ooh, okay. Neither team really turns the ball over that much,
so that's probably gonna be a key to this game. Right.
Oregon defensively has been pretty great. They have had a
ton of challenges, been pretty great, And it really depends
on what you think of Colorado orre They a challenge
are they not games in Seattle? But it's negated a

(01:38:47):
little bit by the fact that it's a rivalry game
and it's in the middle of the day.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
Weather's going to be good.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
Yeah, Roma better than they and the other wide receiver
they said they're playing, which.

Speaker 4 (01:39:02):
Still Roman Dunes. They got hurt on a feeling an
on side kick. Give me, give me Oregon, but I
think this game might push I wish it was a
half a point spread instead of being just three flat.

Speaker 3 (01:39:20):
Okay, okay. I can see a world where.

Speaker 4 (01:39:22):
That thirty seven, thirty eight, thirty five, thirty eight, thirty
five final answer, Oregon wins.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
I can see a world where that happens. But that
ain't a world that I want to be in. I
want to beat the ass down Arizona at Washington State
Washington State minus eight, Bro minus eight, and I am
going to.

Speaker 3 (01:39:46):
This is this is one of those hedgers.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
Right if if Noah Fafita starts this game and you
can hedge, okay, you're allowed to If Noah Fafeda starts
this game, give me Arizona plus eight. If Jadeen Delora
stars this game, give me Washington State minus eight.

Speaker 4 (01:40:07):
How bad do you think the crowd's gonna be on
Jayden's ass? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
God dud dude.

Speaker 2 (01:40:11):
They are going to be saying vile things that that like, like,
they're gonna be talking about the things that we don't
talk about on this podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:40:19):
About Jayden DeLaura, everything in me thinks that if he
plays every first of all, everything in me thinks he's
gonna play. Yeah, Cause if I'm if if Jed Fish
goes well, if he's one hundred percent he's playing, and
I'm Jadane DeLaura and I have a chance to go
back to Pullman and play in front of those people

(01:40:39):
and try to win. I'm lying. I'm lying. When they
ask about my ankle, I'll be like, what are you
talking about? I didn't get hurt, And they're like, they'll
be like, but you didn't play last week, and I'm like, yes,
I did. Like I'm just lying. I'm gonna be delusional
to get on that field because I know he really

(01:40:59):
wants play. Yeah, but I do worry about his tendency
to to not be able to handle the big moments,
not talent, like he just kind of melts in those.
And this is a big moment, this is yea, this
is yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
Because trying to keep.

Speaker 4 (01:41:18):
Arizona that was bad, bad, Yeah, horribly yep.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
And that's what we're expecting.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
Hopefully he doesn't if he does play, because you know
you you want the best for people.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
But uh, over, what about the other side of it?

Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
What about the other side of it? Because Arizona plays
that like ben but don't break defense. How is Washington
State going to handle that? Yeah? Because uh because they
didn't handle it well last week.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
No, no, they did not, except for UCLA is much
more aggressive.

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
They get to the quarterback, all of those things. So
give me.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
So the over unders fifty nine, Okay, give me, let
me make sure sense, yep, fifty nine, give me the over.
I think that we're gonna have some points scored.

Speaker 3 (01:42:12):
In this game.

Speaker 4 (01:42:13):
I'll go with you, and I'm taking Arizona regardless of
who plays. Ooh nasty like it. They lost the last
two weeks by seven. I don't see them losing by
more than seven. But I don't think they're gonna win all.

Speaker 3 (01:42:23):
Right, USC at Notre Dame in South Bend.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
Boy, oh boy, let me see if the weather report
has changed, because right now.

Speaker 4 (01:42:34):
No, dude, nasty, the fifty five and raining with fifteen
mile an hour wins as of yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
Yeah, well that's why I said I was gonna check
it just again, just see if it changed. So right now,
Notre Dame minus three over under sixty and a half.
If Notre Dame still had a grass field, bro, this
over under would be like forty. So where do you
stand on this game?

Speaker 4 (01:43:04):
I don't see the things in Notre Dame that maybe
you or other people see, Like, I don't get it.
I think they have a talented quarterback, but I think
that he has like eleven career losses against top twenty
five teams, which is crazy because some people don't even
play eleven games against against teams like that. I don't

(01:43:28):
know how. I don't know if this USC team is
built for weather like this or for traveling east. So
we're going to learn some things about them. Logically, logically,
you'd be like, oh, this is gonna be the Marshawn
Lloyd game, right, Yeah, I don't. I don't think Lincoln
Riley cares that that's the right thing to do. I

(01:43:49):
think he just wants to be himself. But I got
a rock with the BAC twelve on this one.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
So from the let's go with the weather the weather,
because I tried to go I'll take USC.

Speaker 4 (01:44:09):
Plus three thirty one twenty four is an under, so
I'll go with USC and the under.

Speaker 3 (01:44:17):
Okay, So on Saturday, right, it is supposed to.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
The it should be around fifty two degrees at kickoff, yep,
between nine and twenty seven mile an hour win gus.

Speaker 3 (01:44:40):
It should be. The rain.

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
Should be uh oh, it could be it could stop
raining before the game starts, or because we know how
weather goes, or it could.

Speaker 3 (01:44:57):
Be raining the entire game.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
So on one app it says that it's gonna stop
raining before the game starts, even though that there's a
seventy percent chance of rain, and then on Friday there
is too, but there's no rain on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
So depending on how.

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
Fast it blows blows by or if it slows down,
you could get a torrential downpour all game.

Speaker 3 (01:45:19):
But it's gonna be cold though I tell you that much.

Speaker 5 (01:45:22):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
And it's dark, so the sun's not gonna be out.
It's gonna be six thirty. Give me Notre Dame in
this game. I don't I don't know. How is USC
supposed to stop Notre Dame from rushing the ball?

Speaker 4 (01:45:44):
I don't know, but it feels like Notre Dames stopping
themselves from rushing the ball as much as they should.
So Estimate is averaging almost seven yards of carry. They
need to feed him the rock. Whoever has more carries
Estimate or Lloyd. I think that's probably gonna be a
team that takes this.

Speaker 3 (01:45:56):
YEP over under sixty and a half. I'm actually gonna
take the I'm gonna take the under in this game. Okay, Yeah,
I think where we're gonna end up with like a
thirty one to twenty four game.

Speaker 4 (01:46:09):
That's I'm in the same place, but we have different winners.

Speaker 2 (01:46:12):
YEP UCLA Oregon State Final game of the day Oregon
State minus three and a half over under fifty four.
This game is so important in Salad Bowl Stadium, in
Research Stadium.

Speaker 3 (01:46:25):
Oh, this is this is it for the loser, the
losers out of the Pac twelve race out, Benito Dunzo.

Speaker 4 (01:46:37):
It's over, yeah, and the winner if it happens to
be UCLA has a path to the Pac twelve Championship.

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
Yes, and that would be totally surprising considering that everybody
was pointing to USC, Washington Utah with a side of Oregon.

Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
But those three.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
Teams may and now us the UCLA my back door
in that joint.

Speaker 4 (01:47:05):
Bro they could go in eleven and one. UCLA could
go in eleven and one win the Pac twelve Championship,
and I could see them getting left out of the
College Football.

Speaker 3 (01:47:14):
Playoffs for sure, for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:47:17):
But if Oregon State runs the table from here on out,
they're going to the College Football Playoff. Yes, And that
might be insane for Oregon State fans to hear, but
it's true, yep. Because if you run the table from
this point on, it means that you beat UH.

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
Or you would have the potential.

Speaker 4 (01:47:37):
Yeah, I mean that you maybe beat USC twice yep,
like or or you'd have to beat either Oregon Washington,
USC or Oregon State twice yep or not Oregon State UCLA.

Speaker 3 (01:47:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:47:53):
So yes, So like the Natty is on the line
for the Beaves, that's a the national A trip to
the National Championship is on the line this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:48:04):
It'll be on the line every week for both teams. Yes,
but it's there.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
Yeah, because the the loser of Oregon Washington if they
win out, they're back in the PAC twelve Championship and
they're still in.

Speaker 3 (01:48:16):
The driver there they still.

Speaker 4 (01:48:20):
And it would because it would probably include a get
back game.

Speaker 3 (01:48:23):
So yeah, So the loser of the game is still
in control of their own destiny.

Speaker 4 (01:48:27):
But the loser of this game is fighting for the
Sun Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:48:31):
Yep, exactly. All right, who do you pick? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:48:35):
Okay, I got my feel of picking against U c
l A last week. Okay, but this game's in Research Stadium.
I'm going dude, what let me see what time this
game starts.

Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
It starts at five. It's not gonna be foggy yet,
or it could be foggy. Give me the beaves, man,
give me the beabs.

Speaker 4 (01:49:03):
I'm with you. I think seven to ten point Oregon
State win and I'm gonna take the over.

Speaker 3 (01:49:08):
I'm gonna take the take the over as well. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
Oh so, uh now we got to pick our players
for the week because your ass has tied this thing
up four to four?

Speaker 3 (01:49:20):
Who did I pick? Last week?

Speaker 4 (01:49:23):
You picked cam Ward and he had the worst game
of his life. I could have not picked in one.

Speaker 3 (01:49:31):
And who did you have?

Speaker 4 (01:49:33):
I I had Shador.

Speaker 3 (01:49:36):
Oh well, well there you go, buddy.

Speaker 4 (01:49:39):
So what flex my non watch hand at the okay
at the camera. Well, you're supposed to throw a water
bottle at me. That's how this works.

Speaker 3 (01:49:52):
I am going to take how do I get two
points here? I am going to take Bucky irvy.

Speaker 4 (01:50:11):
Okay, Okay, that's against Washington. That's brave of you.

Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
That's what that's what they call me, brave George.

Speaker 4 (01:50:22):
Okay, well then let's have some fun, shall we. I
will stay in that same game with you, and I
will take Roma doon Day.

Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
What a loser. You're gonna lose them. But he's gonna
play like ten snaps. Watch.

Speaker 4 (01:50:44):
Oh so now he's hurt? Hurt? All right?

Speaker 3 (01:50:48):
No, no, I actually think that.

Speaker 4 (01:50:50):
Yeah, No, you're right, you're right. I'll give you ten snaps,
nine catches, one hundred and eighty five yards, eight touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (01:50:59):
Oh my god. All right, you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:51:01):
I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Amerzon. This is the PAC
twelve Apostles, peace out,

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