August 20, 2023 • 32 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, I'm Rick Tittle and this is the Rick Tittle
Podcast on the eight Side Network. Join me as I
get busy with the biggest names in sports and entertainment.
All right, thank you for that, and check out the
twitch dot tv camera. There there he is. It's Chris Estrada,
the stand up comedian. He is at the world famous
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Punchline tonight and tomorrow. Chris, Welcome to the show. And
I know you've done kind of a long run. You
came in on Wednesday, came in on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm here Wednesday through Saturday.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
And Wednesday Thursday. That's when the true comedy fans, your
fans kind of turn up.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Right, Yeah, that's when they come up. That's when they go,
you know what, we got nothing less to live for.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
How surreal is it? That's what it was.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, We're gonna get hammered on a Wednesday night.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
How surreal is it? I mean, it's it's one thing
to come up and do a bowling alley or a
mall or an open mic, but you're at the Punchline.
And I'm not just saying this because it's our hometown club,
but I mean, you think about Robin Williams, I mean,
everybody can.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Richard Pryor it's a legendary. And you know what's funny
is I used to come up here to do like
bar shows, like when I live in Los Angeles. So
one of the things that LA comics do is they
love to come up here for stage time. We'll come
up here for a week. I used to do an
open mic at a laundry place right here, like a laundromatch. Yeah,
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it was called the Brainwash. Yeah, And I used to
come up here and do that in between shows and stuff,
and so it's a it's really cool to be headlining
the punchline for the first time.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Now you were You got a late start, either like
twenty nine or thirty.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Right, Yeah, I was twenty nine when I started comedy.
Usually everybody starts around like eighteen, nineteen twenty one. And
I said, you know what, I'm gonna ruin my life first.
I'm gonna ruin my life first, and then when I
have nothing else, I'll start.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Now, you worked in a warehouse, just like Bill Burr
worked in a warehouse.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, that's right. I worked at a warehouse. Worked at
a warehouse for a few on and off for quite
a few years. I always I always tell people before
stand up or before I got some eklage of success
stand up, I used to work three bad jobs to
pay me what one bad job would pay me. So
I worked everything. I was like. I worked in construction,
I worked demolition, I was a valet driver. I did
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a data entry, I worked at warehouses. I used to
clean somebody's house. I used to do gardening.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Wow, you know that's the thing too, is I'm sure
when you look back at the warehouse. Yeah, how many
guys were like, dude, you're hilarious. You should go for it,
And how many were like, shut up, you ain't gonna
be a success.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well, you know, it's so funny. I used to tell
I used to almost not tell any of them that
I was a comedian, because one time I was telling
this guy that I'm like, I am a comedian and like,
you know, I have some good things happening for me,
and he looked at me and said, yeah, man, we
got to unload this truck. And then I said, you
know what, nobody got time to hear listen to your
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pipe dreams. You know, He's like, I believe you, but
we got something to do.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Right. It's like another guy's got a screenplay, and the
guy's gonna be in the Indianapolis five hundred.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So I just think about how great it is that,
you know, Seinfeld said, there's no grad school for it.
You just have to get up there and from day
one you're a professional. Oh yeah, and so what was
your I like to tell a story when Ryan Hamilton
was in here years ago and he's from Rexburg, Idaho,
and he drove like five hours in the snow to
do a bar show in Montana for twenty bucks. Jesus,
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no one listened. The lady that owned it headbutted him,
and he's driving back with an ice pack on his
head for twenty bucks. And he said, I guess if
I don't quit now, I'm never gonna quit.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
What was your moment when you're like, you know, let's
screw this.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You know what? I remember, like a year into comedy,
I went to go do I went to go do
a show and it was in a pretty rough neighborhood
and this tied it up. Mexican dude. I'm Mexican and
this tied it up. Mexican dude. I was taking a
little long to get to a joke. I was trying
to figure it out, you know, And then he got
up and he pounded the table and he was like,
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if you don't get to the joke, I'm going to
beat your ass. And I was like, you know what.
That's when I said, this guy probably lives by the model,
like brevity is the you know brevity.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Right, he's a fan of the bar.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he's like, get to it, man, we
ain't got time to listen to your life story.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
So that was Ernesto. I hate setups, Martinez.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yes, that was yeah, I hate long winded setups.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Oh yeah, he would hate Daniel Sloss.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah. Yeah, he's like, I'm not here for long form comedy.
I'm a Mitch Edburgh fan. Get to it.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Exactly. So who were some of your influences that you
looked up to?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
You know, some of my influence I looked up to
was people like Colin Quinn. I love Colin Quinn. Really
funny guy. Greg Giraldo was a guy that I really enjoyed.
Ivy Leaguer dude was a lawyer. He went to Harvard, yeah,
and then threw it away to be a comic.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
And then through his life away and yeah, Horrible Sad.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And then Patrisa O'Neil was somebody I was a big
fan of. Yeah, but I also love people who do
a little more experimental stuff like Maria Banford is a
really funny comedy comedian. Laurie Kilmartin who was a Bay
Area comic.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
She she's been in her lot. She dated a guy
who went to my high school from the East Bay.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah. Yeah, she's from up here. Yeah, she's She was
one of the first comics that when she told me,
like good set in La and we were on the
show together, it meant something to me, you know, because
she had great Conan sets. She was a writer on
Conan and yeah, she was a writer on Tough Crowd
with Colin Quinn.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Great panel show back in the Yeah, the show was
a little ahead of itself.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
It is really ahead of itself. Yeah, because it was
really kind of like it was ahead of itself. It
was that round table and Colin Quinn would throw out
topics and everyone had come in on. Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I remember when Bobby Kelly was in here and we
were talking about Giraldo and he and Bobby was like,
he goes, I got to lift up every rock to
find a Robert Kelly fan, and Giraldo was like handsome
and so funny and he goes. I used to get
so mad at him, but I think my favorite ever
and of course it's just jokes. People relax by my
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favorite ever roast joke because he just destroyed.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Oh he was the king.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
He was. Yeah, he just destroyed. And Iced Tea was there, Yeah,
and he said Iced Tea is so old. The money
he got from his first album, he bought his freedom.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
He killed me. I remember that. I think that was
the flavor Flavor roast.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, he was a master man.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I love that guy, just absolutely gloves off. Yeah killing.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I was a big fan of Jerry Seinfeld as well. Yeah,
he did tell me I sucked one time. Really, you know,
it's really funny, and he was right. I did. I
was performing at the Improv in Los Angeles. But they
have a side room called the Improv Lab, and a
small room fits around like maybe thirty to forty people.
And I had a buddy. Him and his friend were
running the show. But it was a it was a
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challenge show and they were and it was kind of
annoying because you couldn't go up and just do your
stand up, you would pick a challenge from a bucket
like a pull out of paper, right, And I came
in and the challenge was to play the piano as
I do my set, and I clear, I don't know
how to play the piano, so I just start and
I couldn't figure out how to say my jokes while
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playing hitting keys on the piano, so I just started
saying the dirtiest street jokes that I could remember. And
then in the main room, Jerry Seinfeld was in the
main room and my buddy, who was running the show,
bumped into him in the hallway and said, Hey, would
you like to come and do a guest set on
my show. Of course, he's not going to make him
do the challenge, and he walks in during my set
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where I'm hitting the keys and just saying the dirtiest stuff,
and everybody was laughing, but I didn't know he was
in there. Everybody was laughing at him, looking at me
and discuss and I remember thinking to myself, Wow, like
everybody's laughing, I must be like Eddie Murphy now where
I'm like, I'm not saying funny things, I'm emanating funny.
When I got off stage, he said, hey, everyone, we
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have a special guest. Give it up for Jerry Seinfeld.
And the first thing he said was who was that guy?
That was awful? That was awful, So I hope that
he should not continue doing that. And he talked about
me for like a minute. It killed me. It was
so funny. It was so funny. I wanted to be
like in that that Seinfeld episode where ken Stanza got
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into the pool was like and the woman walks in
on it and he was like, it was cold. I
wanted to yell out. It was a challenge show, Jerry.
It was a challenge show.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It shrinks. Do you know you're going up against him? Tonight?
Seinfeld is at a casino about an hour north of here.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
There you go. That man's always haunting me.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
He still he did this on purpose. He's still on
your ass. Yeah, we got another segment here. I didn't
even ask you. Can you stay another segment?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Of course, all right, let's do it. Chris Estrada at
the Punchline, come on back. You're listening to the Rick
Tittle podcast on the eight Side Network. Stay tuned for more.
All right, I forgot to tweet it. I just tweeted it.
Now that Chris Astrada is in the studio with me,
and during the break he's at the punchline by the
way tonight and tomorrow. You want to make sure you
get down there and check him out. But during the
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break we found out that we both speak punk and
we're both huge punk fans. And you were just saying,
you run into Keith Morris of the Circle Jersey.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, I run into him in La. Yeah. Sometimes I
will see him in La. Like I was walking out
of a liquor store one time and he was walking
in and it's kind of a jittery guy, so I
kind of was just like, I just said, what's up, Keith,
And he said, Hey, how you doing, and then just
kept walking.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
The amazing thing about that, too, is that one of
my favorite bands is the Descendants.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I love the Descendants. Come on my logosa, Oh man,
I love Mileo.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
So yeah, Bill Stevenson, the drummer, yep, he worked on
They had the same fishing boat or what is this story? Well,
Keith had a fishing boat and then Bill was a
little kid and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And they're all heard, most of the beach guys. They
all grew up in like the South Bay of Los
Angeles and they all, yeah, they all come from that
kind of part of town where they used to fish
and like right off the pier and her MIC's.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Beach song Catalina, you know by descendants. Yeah, that's so see,
that was right. So how old are you, man?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I'm thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I was going to say, you're in your and I'm
twenty years older than you. Yeah, so well enough to
be your dad. I paid a lot for this hair piece,
by the way.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah it looks good.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
It's hard getting you yak here out of the Ukraine
right now, so I'm glad I got it anyway, h
am I sweating glue? Yeah these are these old Bob
Hope jokes. But uh, I appreciate guys like you who
sort of got into this after the fact.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I had punk bands growing up, but I mean the
classic stuff from the seventies.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Oh yeah, that's the stuff I grew up Like, I
grew up into the stuff that was of my eras
as well, but the stuff that like I first got
into the stuff from my era, which was like no
effects and bands out of this, out of here, out
of the bay, you know. And then but when you
get in that stuff. What's great about it is you
start you start looking back, and you you start saying, Okay,
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who are the bands that influenced this band or whatever.
That's when I got into like the sex Pestals, the Clash,
a lot of Bay bands, like the Deck, Kennedy's, the Vengurers, Crime,
all these amazing like Bay Area San Francisco ends. But
also like the Ramones. I love the Ramone. Sure, yeah,
I got into all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
So suicide tendancies because I say that because they had
the sort of Latino feel with my Yeah, the bassist
Louis who went to Metallica.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Oh yeah, Robert Robert.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, yeah, Trio, he's been on the show.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Oh he's look good, dude, Yeah yeah. I never met him.
A really nice guy and he.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Goes call me any time and I'm too scared, but
I had him on one time anytime. I want to
ask you this too. By the way, where with Chris Ostrata,
you see him on the twitch dot tv. I was
talking to a Mexican American comedian the other day who
hates the term Latin x. Yeah, he says Latino latina.
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And of course now because of the whole gender thing.
Do you have an opinion or no opinion on latin
X You know we're getting deep now.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Oh yeah, we're getting deep. Let's get into it. Yeah,
I think to myself, I'd like to be an X
men character. That's man. Yeah, a Latin X men. No,
I kind of my opinion is really, Hey, if you want,
I think of myself as Latino and that's usually what
I go by. I don't go by latin X because
I'm not like, I'm not like non binary or gender fluid.
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I'm just a dude. But so I'm like, why take
something from them if that's but if they my kind
of thought on it is, if that's what you want
to go by, I could care.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
So that's the thing too. It's just like, I don't
care what religion you are, what team you root for.
If that makes you happy, then yeah, go for it.
I could.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I know that when you were working on shows, you
worked with Matt Ingebretsen.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, Matt Britson.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I think I've had him on the show. Corporate is
such a genius show.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I love Corporate. Those are my buddies, Matt Ingabritsen, Jake
Weisman and Pat Bishop. They created Corporate and those are
my friends who I just love those They've really changed
my life.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
So dead pan. I had Jake on the show too. Yeah,
and when I had him on, he was talking about Corporate,
about how they were coming up with it, and I
asked that, yeah, whatever, and I'm like, Oh, I should
have been paying more attention, because you guys really did
come up with something genius.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, Corporate was so you know what they described corporate as.
I loved it when they told me they pitched it.
They pitched it as the office meet to American Cycle,
and that is corporate.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
That's what Corporate was, no doubt. And I know you've
also worked with the great Fred Armison too.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Work with Fred Armison, that's right, Yeah, worked with him.
I co created and starting a show called This Fool
that he's an ep on and I co created it
with Matt and Goabritain, Jake Weisman and Pat Bishop. But yeah,
and then I recently got to open for Fred. He
he does this really cool show called It's a comedy
show called Comedy for your musicians, but if you're not
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a musician, you're also invited. And he had me come
up and do like ten to twelve minutes right before
he went.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, I saw his one man show on bassists. Oh yeah,
here at the Great because he had the one on
drums that was on Netflix. H yeah, yeah, and it's
he did the He had a famous basis the guy
from I forget who it was now, But what's the
name of the I'll figure out later. But the thing
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I love about Fred is every time I hear a
Saturday Night Live comedian interview, like Bill Hayter said he
would throw up before the show, and like Will Fortes
said that he didn't think his mouth would move he
was so nervous. Is that Fred was never scared. And
when they would take the summer off, he'd like, I
can't wait to get back and start doing shows again.
Like he's absolutely the most fearless performer they ever met.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, even before, like those shows that I did with him,
he would look pretty calm and collective right before going
on stage, almost like nothing fazes him. Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So during the pandemic, did you do the Zoom shows
or the park shows?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Driving No, I did Zoom shows. I thought I'm not
going to do this, and then somebody asked me and
I said, you know what, I'm willing to humiliate myself
humiliating and zoom shows. I was like, how starve for attention?
Am I that I'm doing a zoom show?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But the thing is, it's like this job normally, I'm
by myself. I get no feedback, and I'll, you know,
I try. I'll say something funny now and I'm not
a comedian, and then maybe three years later I'll see
somebody at the Colosseum and they'll say, dude, that was hilarious,
and I'll be like, oh, thanks, but for you. And
comedians tell me they're doing a zoom and they're getting
no feedback, and all I can think of is I'm bombing.
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I'm dying right now. Like, no, they're laughing. You can't
hear them, Yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Can't hear them. Yeah, because sometimes the hosts would be like, hey,
turn off your mics and turn up, and I'd be like,
all right, well I'm not going to hear anyone.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Was that? I mean, did you ever do like this show?
Like I know in New York they had tiny cover
they're up on the rooftops and sam Maillo is special.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Great special. Yeah I did. I did Outdoor show. Yeah,
I did some outdoor shows, parking lot shows, kind of
weird things like that, and I was like, I can't
wait for this to be over.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
So the other thing too, is that you know, I
know nowadays because of these TikTok people influencers. Yeah, I know,
comedy shows will book these people because they know they're
going to sell out. I understand, yeah, absolutely, but they
haven't sort of paid their dues. And also they'll get
on stage with maybe a tight fifteen and they got
to go forty five to an hour and they have
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nothing that's right, So what's it like when these people
kind of like, I mean, I guess it's okay to
jump the line if you're brilliant, Yeah, but when you
jump the line and you don't know what you're doing,
is that frustrating?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
You know?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
It's yes, it can be, you know on a personal
level clause you're like, man, I work so hard. But
then also you're just like, man, these comedy clubs they
need people in there. This is sometimes you think to yourself, like,
if I'm trying to be mature about it, I go,
you know what, they put butts in seats. They're selling
out a bunch of shows this cut. Let's get these
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guys in there, these men and women influencers in there
so this club could survive, and then get me in
there that way, right, I'm trying to I'm trying to
not live with hate in my heart.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Right that makes me think of your Ryan Gosling chunk.
Yes is you know, I'm gonna do your act for you.
But it's basically you hated hearing that he was a
nice guy because you're like, well, you're handsome. I need
the nice guys.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, I need nice guys stuff. I don't think I
always say this being nice as an ugly people quantity,
you know, Like if whenever I find out some like
really good looking guys nice, I go great, Now I
got to compete with you. That's annoying. It's like no, no, no,
leave that to us, because I've never walked into a
room and then got some got like a woman like
just by appearance. It takes me about a week of charm.
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You know.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Let's the thing about Bobby Lee, Like whenever he was
in here, he would say, like, you want the genetic
genetic lottery, You're you're tall, you don't have to work
for attention. I'm like, do you really think, like I'm
six too, that's not even that tall that but he's
under the impression. And by the way, it's funny you
were talking about Seinfeld being in the audience. He didn't
know it. You know. Bobby Lee usually gets naked at
least yeah, underpants, And when he was starting off, he
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was at Caroline's in Manhattan and he did a thing
where he got down to his underpants and no one laughed,
and then he got naked and it was crickets and
so he was sweating bullets. He came off the stage
real fast, holding all his clothes, and Chris Rock was
standing there and Chris Rock said to him. He goes,
I'll never forget it. He said, what are you doing man? Yeah,
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and Bobby goes, I don't know. Does it haunts him
to this day.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I love that. I love that because that's kind of
a quintessential New York comedy, and I love New York comics.
I was informed by New York comedy a lot, but
like it's like quintessential, Like, dude, we have jokes.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Well, that's why I liked that. I mentioned Sam and
Mark Norman and Show This and every different comedian as
long as you're I we'll watch. But whenever I go
to New York and go to the Cellar in the
Vu Fat Black, they strip and have you done those clubs?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah? I actually just got past it the cellar.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, like congrats.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Like a week and a half ago, I was in
New York and had an audition s there. Yeah, Esty
was there, she watched me. It was a real big
honor to go there.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
You who are your two res?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I didn't have Rex. That's the problem. I kind of
went with things stacked against me because I got it
through my agent and they.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Hey, that's usually you need two Rex to even get
looked at it.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, but luckily I got it through my agent and
she said, yeah, we'll give him a shot. And then
I kind of went up with things against me because they,
you know, they're kind of like, he's coming in with Rex.
He's an LA guy, you know, is it going to
be an ahole or whatever? And then I went up
and I did really well, and then I felt really
good about it. She was like she told me she
was like, great job, and that was amazing. Yeah, that's amazing. Well,
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you don't have to wait for the seller. You can
go see him at the Punchline tonight. You can see
him tomorrow night. Chriss Strata, thanks for coming in, man, yeah, man,
thanks for having me. I really appreciate this.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Good meeting you. I'm Rick Tittle. We'll come on back
on the other side with some open lines. You're listening
to the Rick Tittle Podcast on the eight Side Network.
Stay tuned for more. Welcome back to Sports Byline USA,
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back to the show. Bobcat Goldthwaite, comedian and actor and
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still going strong because brand new today is his new
comedy album, Soldier for Christ via PGF Records, Digital and
vinyl available and he's got an album release party and
show tonight in Chicago. Bobcat, the picture on the front
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was you, I assume as an altar boy or your
first communion or something? Is what is that?
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It's my first communion and that's I mean, if you
don't see the photo, the title just sounds weird Soldier
for Christ, but I yeah, that was my first communion photo.
It's like, man, what the hell happened to me? I
was so young and I had hope.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Well, my first communion picture, I think it's nineteen seventy
and I'm holding my ventriloquist dummy. I mean, if you
were a psychologist, you would have thought this kid is
going to be a serial killer.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Probably that is that would make a way better album cover.
That's pretty odesome. Yeah, I without a doubt I would
have had you in therapy. Was your dummy and a
gown too, or I mean your figure. I don't want
to insult you if you're a ventrop.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
It was a that was a dummy. It was one
of those Danny O day things. And there's one picture
of me doing like the praying hands and smiling, and
the other one I'm holding up my vent trillick was doll.
And I haven't been in jail yet knock on wood,
so I guess it was.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah. I had a Willie Tyler and Lester. I had
a Lester. Now that I would just terrify my ex wife.
I would just put it very maybe my ex right.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well, that's very actually that's very diverse of you to
have that doll.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've always been pretty uh pretty woke.
I'll run right into it.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
My brother had one of those because he wanted to
be like me. And then uh, but then you could
like scrape it and then part of the paint on
the afro would come off, and then it would look
like he had gray hair.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
You did you were you able to throw your voice?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Ah? Well, it was just like you're the dummy. No,
you're the dummy. And then my dad said say hello
to the people, and then go hello to the people.
And I don't think I tried since Nixon was president.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
So you know, uh, you know Otto and George, right,
remember them there?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You know that is Auto and George. I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Well, uh famous spanchil Christ and uh and uh he
was playing in uh in in a park in New
York City and was in Celtic when they stabbed the puppet.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Oh is that the puppet with a big eyebrows?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
He'd be really philby. Uh yeah, yeah, I stabbed I once.
I remember once I was on a plane and done him,
jumped down him. I can call him down him. He's
like prince I guess he was. We were both in
the first last and he didn't have room above because
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he was in the the the the you know, the
the front at the very front, so he didn't have
room his his puppets wouldn't fit above him, so he
put him over my storage space. And then the flight,
you know, we land and everything, and he's looking back
at me like, hey, can you help a brother out?
So I had to carry Jeff Dunham's puppet off a plane.
(24:13):
One was I was Dunham's puppet pitch. I had.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
What's your contraband of Ventriloquis dummy like wow, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Big careful, Walter's in here and the Woozl Yeah. So
I have a new album. Yes, I'm working with Dana
Gould and we're making a new movie together, the two
of us. So keeping busy.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I love Dana and he was one of my favorites also,
and he over the years, he's been in there so
many times. He's one of the only people to have
had me sit in the green room with him, and
he's introduced me to a lot of people over the years.
I Dana Gold is probably my favorite guy. And I
know when you guys we had I had both of
you on the show when you were talking about your
little special you had and your your car accident and
(25:02):
all that. So what's new this time.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Well, I've got a hold of an unfinished Edwood movie,
and Dana is the biggest Edwood fan. I'm a pretty
big Edwood fan too. So it's an unfinished Edwood film,
and we are finishing the movie with the new actors
and trying to make it look like the nineteen sixty
eight film and the movie where Ed plays a madam
(25:28):
in a brothel in Vietnam. He's on the lamb from
the mob, and he's an erotic novelist. So it's a
tale as old as time. We're spending all of our
energy trying to get this thing done. It'll be again.
You know. There's some weird movie I make that make hundreds,
(25:49):
hundreds of dollars. But I'm excited about it. Oh, I
should pay. I'm playing Sacramento this weekend and then coming up.
I'm at the Punchline in San Francisco too.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
You got to come in studio, Bobcat.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, I'll come in when I'm in in San Francisco.
It would be great.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, that'd be great. I'm just getting a note here,
and I don't remember this, but that you played a
ventriloquist with Don Rickles and Pales from the Crypt yes,
I did.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I'm looking at a picture of it right now as
we speak. I yeah, and I had, But I wasn't
really a Ventrouvers. I had a spoiler. I had a
vestial twin attached to my like instead of a fit
that had a twin, and that I may or may
not have cut my arm off. But I loved wording
(26:41):
with Rickles. It was really really really gat.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You know, yeah that to me, and he's just the ultimate.
And when he would come on the Tonight Show and
they'd play that, I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Just like I had the Madador music. You know what's
funny is I don't really follow that much comedy, but
I've been going down rabbit hole. Was watching Wrickles recently,
just because he gets in the zone. You know that
you can tell that some of it's stuff he thought
of before, but you just feel like so much of
it is just really genuinely riffing. And I really I've
(27:14):
been watching I've been watching uh uh and and again
I wasn't I liked Wrinkles as a kid, but you
know now I'm super appreciating him. And then probably because
i'm his age now when I'm watching it. But and
uh and same thing with Rodney. I was never really interrupting.
I watching, and now I'm back watching him, and it's
watching him on Carson just destroying Johnny, and it's it's
(27:37):
it's weird that I'm appreciating these people. Normally, you're a
comedy fan and then you get into comedy. When I
got into comedy, I didn't like comedy. I was trying
to make fun of it. But now I have a
new respect for these folks.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I heard that the other day. I was did the
same thing and I was watching Rodney and I heard
one that I had no recollection of. It just killed me.
He said, my wife, she's so fat. She was standing
on the corner and a cop came over and said,
break it up. It's just like make up your own joke.
It's just so classic.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I think it's funny to watch him like, and Carson's
just going, uh, she's that fat. He's not saying anything,
oh the police, Yeah, you know he's not. He's just
trying to keep up.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
It's it's it's a I guess I guess am I
getting soft that now I'm getting nostalgia.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Well you think about you know, you're just a couple
of years older than me. Our generation, we grew up
with record albums and you know, we would sit in
a beanbag chair and look at the album cover and
then we would want to make sure that the stylus
was clean and oil it. And so I think it's
just funny we've come full circle. Soldier for Christ will
also be available on vinyl.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Huh yeah, yeah, And I'm shocked that people uh uh
played vinyl and like it. But uh yeah, it's it's
it's you know, I guess you can go back and
do that, you know. Yeah, remember just studying everything on
the album looking for I don't know, some insights into
(29:10):
the artist.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
It's funny. Someone was asking me, like, what comedy albums
did you listen to? And I was like, uh, everybody
listened to it is canceled, you know, it's what do
you hell? And I was looking at those albums although
uh mel Brooks two thousand year old man. I remember
(29:33):
finding that album. I didn't even know anything about it,
and you know, and half that record is in isn't
Yiddish and stuff, but I just it just was in
the comedy section at my library, and uh and and
I loved it so so you know, as long as
we got no bad touch stories about Bell coming out,
I think I'm safe. That was the album which helped
(29:56):
you like as a kid.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
For me, it was Let's Get Small Steve Martin. And
I know to this day, I know the entire album verbatim,
with the different ways he says every word, because I
think I listened to it ten thousand times.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Well, I wonder about that, you know how, like I
don't think they'll ever be anyone like that like that.
That was because I would watch, you know, I would
watch I would watch Steve Martin with my mother and
my biker brother and stuff. I remember Steve Martin came
to Syracuse and Tom Kenny and I, folks don't know
(30:33):
Tom Kenny. It's SpongeBob SquarePants. We've known each other since
we were six years old. And in fact, there's songs
on the album that we did when we were in
high school. Wow, and I yeah, And it's pretty impressive
two teenage boys writing songs and and there's no poop
or boob in the whole. But we didn't have money
(30:56):
to see Steve Martin. So we showed up to the
venue like really in the afternoon, and we brought lunches
and put our hair up in bandanas and looked like
we were the crew or something and just sat in
the place until the show started. We staid there for
like eight hours.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Wow you got in?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Did Tom take his glasses and go ooh and pull
them out and do the whole thing?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
No, next time my friend to see Martin, I should
give him like eight bucks to say, hey man, this
is for the show.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Well. The album is called Soldier for Christ with our
guests Bobcat, gold Waite and as I said tonight the
album release party in Chicago. It is available from PGF Records,
Digital and Vinyl. Bobcat, thanks for coming on and uh yeah,
Dane has been in here one hundred times. You got
to come in when you're at the punchline.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, I'll be I'll come in and say hi.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
All right, good stuff, Thank you, Bobcat gold Waite, everybody.
Soldier for Christ the new album. I'm Ricktilla. Take a
quick break, We'll come on back on Sportspolin. This has
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All right, thank you for that, and check out the
twitch dot tv camera. There there he is. It's Chris Estrada,
the stand up comedian. He is at the world famous
(00:20):
Punchline tonight and tomorrow. Chris, Welcome to the show. And
I know you've done kind of a long run. You
came in on Wednesday, came in on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm here Wednesday through Saturday.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
And Wednesday Thursday. That's when the true comedy fans, your
fans kind of turn up.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Right, Yeah, that's when they come up. That's when they go,
you know what, we got nothing less to live for.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
How surreal is it? That's what it was.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, We're gonna get hammered on a Wednesday night.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
How surreal is it? I mean, it's it's one thing
to come up and do a bowling alley or a
mall or an open mic, but you're at the Punchline.
And I'm not just saying this because it's our hometown club,
but I mean, you think about Robin Williams, I mean,
everybody can.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Richard Pryor it's a legendary. And you know what's funny
is I used to come up here to do like
bar shows, like when I live in Los Angeles. So
one of the things that LA comics do is they
love to come up here for stage time. We'll come
up here for a week. I used to do an
open mic at a laundry place right here, like a laundromatch. Yeah,
(01:18):
it was called the Brainwash. Yeah, And I used to
come up here and do that in between shows and stuff,
and so it's a it's really cool to be headlining
the punchline for the first time.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Now you were You got a late start, either like
twenty nine or thirty.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Right, Yeah, I was twenty nine when I started comedy.
Usually everybody starts around like eighteen, nineteen twenty one. And
I said, you know what, I'm gonna ruin my life first.
I'm gonna ruin my life first, and then when I
have nothing else, I'll start.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Now, you worked in a warehouse, just like Bill Burr
worked in a warehouse.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, that's right. I worked at a warehouse. Worked at
a warehouse for a few on and off for quite
a few years. I always I always tell people before
stand up or before I got some eklage of success
stand up, I used to work three bad jobs to
pay me what one bad job would pay me. So
I worked everything. I was like. I worked in construction,
I worked demolition, I was a valet driver. I did
(02:12):
a data entry, I worked at warehouses. I used to
clean somebody's house. I used to do gardening.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Wow, you know that's the thing too, is I'm sure
when you look back at the warehouse. Yeah, how many
guys were like, dude, you're hilarious. You should go for it,
And how many were like, shut up, you ain't gonna
be a success.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well, you know, it's so funny. I used to tell
I used to almost not tell any of them that
I was a comedian, because one time I was telling
this guy that I'm like, I am a comedian and like,
you know, I have some good things happening for me,
and he looked at me and said, yeah, man, we
got to unload this truck. And then I said, you
know what, nobody got time to hear listen to your
(02:49):
pipe dreams. You know, He's like, I believe you, but
we got something to do.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Right. It's like another guy's got a screenplay, and the
guy's gonna be in the Indianapolis five hundred.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So I just think about how great it is that,
you know, Seinfeld said, there's no grad school for it.
You just have to get up there and from day
one you're a professional. Oh yeah, and so what was
your I like to tell a story when Ryan Hamilton
was in here years ago and he's from Rexburg, Idaho,
and he drove like five hours in the snow to
do a bar show in Montana for twenty bucks. Jesus,
(03:22):
no one listened. The lady that owned it headbutted him,
and he's driving back with an ice pack on his
head for twenty bucks. And he said, I guess if
I don't quit now, I'm never gonna quit.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
What was your moment when you're like, you know, let's
screw this.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You know what? I remember, like a year into comedy,
I went to go do I went to go do
a show and it was in a pretty rough neighborhood
and this tied it up. Mexican dude. I'm Mexican and
this tied it up. Mexican dude. I was taking a
little long to get to a joke. I was trying
to figure it out, you know, And then he got
up and he pounded the table and he was like,
(03:56):
if you don't get to the joke, I'm going to
beat your ass. And I was like, you know what.
That's when I said, this guy probably lives by the model,
like brevity is the you know brevity.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Right, he's a fan of the bar.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he's like, get to it, man, we
ain't got time to listen to your life story.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
So that was Ernesto. I hate setups, Martinez.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yes, that was yeah, I hate long winded setups.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Oh yeah, he would hate Daniel Sloss.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah. Yeah, he's like, I'm not here for long form comedy.
I'm a Mitch Edburgh fan. Get to it.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Exactly. So who were some of your influences that you
looked up to?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
You know, some of my influence I looked up to
was people like Colin Quinn. I love Colin Quinn. Really
funny guy. Greg Giraldo was a guy that I really enjoyed.
Ivy Leaguer dude was a lawyer. He went to Harvard, yeah,
and then threw it away to be a comic.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
And then through his life away and yeah, Horrible Sad.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And then Patrisa O'Neil was somebody I was a big
fan of. Yeah, but I also love people who do
a little more experimental stuff like Maria Banford is a
really funny comedy comedian. Laurie Kilmartin who was a Bay
Area comic.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
She she's been in her lot. She dated a guy
who went to my high school from the East Bay.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah. Yeah, she's from up here. Yeah, she's She was
one of the first comics that when she told me,
like good set in La and we were on the
show together, it meant something to me, you know, because
she had great Conan sets. She was a writer on
Conan and yeah, she was a writer on Tough Crowd
with Colin Quinn.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Great panel show back in the Yeah, the show was
a little ahead of itself.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
It is really ahead of itself. Yeah, because it was
really kind of like it was ahead of itself. It
was that round table and Colin Quinn would throw out
topics and everyone had come in on. Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I remember when Bobby Kelly was in here and we
were talking about Giraldo and he and Bobby was like,
he goes, I got to lift up every rock to
find a Robert Kelly fan, and Giraldo was like handsome
and so funny and he goes. I used to get
so mad at him, but I think my favorite ever
and of course it's just jokes. People relax by my
(06:05):
favorite ever roast joke because he just destroyed.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Oh he was the king.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
He was. Yeah, he just destroyed. And Iced Tea was there, Yeah,
and he said Iced Tea is so old. The money
he got from his first album, he bought his freedom.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
He killed me. I remember that. I think that was
the flavor Flavor roast.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, he was a master man.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I love that guy, just absolutely gloves off. Yeah killing.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I was a big fan of Jerry Seinfeld as well. Yeah,
he did tell me I sucked one time. Really, you know,
it's really funny, and he was right. I did. I
was performing at the Improv in Los Angeles. But they
have a side room called the Improv Lab, and a
small room fits around like maybe thirty to forty people.
And I had a buddy. Him and his friend were
running the show. But it was a it was a
(06:50):
challenge show and they were and it was kind of
annoying because you couldn't go up and just do your
stand up, you would pick a challenge from a bucket
like a pull out of paper, right, And I came
in and the challenge was to play the piano as
I do my set, and I clear, I don't know
how to play the piano, so I just start and
I couldn't figure out how to say my jokes while
(07:11):
playing hitting keys on the piano, so I just started
saying the dirtiest street jokes that I could remember. And
then in the main room, Jerry Seinfeld was in the
main room and my buddy, who was running the show,
bumped into him in the hallway and said, Hey, would
you like to come and do a guest set on
my show. Of course, he's not going to make him
do the challenge, and he walks in during my set
(07:32):
where I'm hitting the keys and just saying the dirtiest stuff,
and everybody was laughing, but I didn't know he was
in there. Everybody was laughing at him, looking at me
and discuss and I remember thinking to myself, Wow, like
everybody's laughing, I must be like Eddie Murphy now where
I'm like, I'm not saying funny things, I'm emanating funny.
When I got off stage, he said, hey, everyone, we
(07:53):
have a special guest. Give it up for Jerry Seinfeld.
And the first thing he said was who was that guy?
That was awful? That was awful, So I hope that
he should not continue doing that. And he talked about
me for like a minute. It killed me. It was
so funny. It was so funny. I wanted to be
like in that that Seinfeld episode where ken Stanza got
(08:14):
into the pool was like and the woman walks in
on it and he was like, it was cold. I
wanted to yell out. It was a challenge show, Jerry.
It was a challenge show.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It shrinks. Do you know you're going up against him? Tonight?
Seinfeld is at a casino about an hour north of here.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
There you go. That man's always haunting me.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
He still he did this on purpose. He's still on
your ass. Yeah, we got another segment here. I didn't
even ask you. Can you stay another segment?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Of course, all right, let's do it. Chris Estrada at
the Punchline, come on back. You're listening to the Rick
Tittle podcast on the eight Side Network. Stay tuned for more.
All right, I forgot to tweet it. I just tweeted it.
Now that Chris Astrada is in the studio with me,
and during the break he's at the punchline by the
way tonight and tomorrow. You want to make sure you
get down there and check him out. But during the
(09:00):
break we found out that we both speak punk and
we're both huge punk fans. And you were just saying,
you run into Keith Morris of the Circle Jersey.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, I run into him in La. Yeah. Sometimes I
will see him in La. Like I was walking out
of a liquor store one time and he was walking
in and it's kind of a jittery guy, so I
kind of was just like, I just said, what's up, Keith,
And he said, Hey, how you doing, and then just
kept walking.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
The amazing thing about that, too, is that one of
my favorite bands is the Descendants.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I love the Descendants. Come on my logosa, Oh man,
I love Mileo.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
So yeah, Bill Stevenson, the drummer, yep, he worked on
They had the same fishing boat or what is this story? Well,
Keith had a fishing boat and then Bill was a
little kid and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And they're all heard, most of the beach guys. They
all grew up in like the South Bay of Los
Angeles and they all, yeah, they all come from that
kind of part of town where they used to fish
and like right off the pier and her MIC's.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Beach song Catalina, you know by descendants. Yeah, that's so see,
that was right. So how old are you, man?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I'm thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I was going to say, you're in your and I'm
twenty years older than you. Yeah, so well enough to
be your dad. I paid a lot for this hair piece,
by the way.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah it looks good.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
It's hard getting you yak here out of the Ukraine
right now, so I'm glad I got it anyway, h
am I sweating glue? Yeah these are these old Bob
Hope jokes. But uh, I appreciate guys like you who
sort of got into this after the fact.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I had punk bands growing up, but I mean the
classic stuff from the seventies.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Oh yeah, that's the stuff I grew up Like, I
grew up into the stuff that was of my eras
as well, but the stuff that like I first got
into the stuff from my era, which was like no
effects and bands out of this, out of here, out
of the bay, you know. And then but when you
get in that stuff. What's great about it is you
start you start looking back, and you you start saying, Okay,
(10:47):
who are the bands that influenced this band or whatever.
That's when I got into like the sex Pestals, the Clash,
a lot of Bay bands, like the Deck, Kennedy's, the Vengurers, Crime,
all these amazing like Bay Area San Francisco ends. But
also like the Ramones. I love the Ramone. Sure, yeah,
I got into all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
So suicide tendancies because I say that because they had
the sort of Latino feel with my Yeah, the bassist
Louis who went to Metallica.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Oh yeah, Robert Robert.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, yeah, Trio, he's been on the show.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Oh he's look good, dude, Yeah yeah. I never met him.
A really nice guy and he.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Goes call me any time and I'm too scared, but
I had him on one time anytime. I want to
ask you this too. By the way, where with Chris Ostrata,
you see him on the twitch dot tv. I was
talking to a Mexican American comedian the other day who
hates the term Latin x. Yeah, he says Latino latina.
(11:49):
And of course now because of the whole gender thing.
Do you have an opinion or no opinion on latin
X You know we're getting deep now.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Oh yeah, we're getting deep. Let's get into it. Yeah,
I think to myself, I'd like to be an X
men character. That's man. Yeah, a Latin X men. No,
I kind of my opinion is really, Hey, if you want,
I think of myself as Latino and that's usually what
I go by. I don't go by latin X because
I'm not like, I'm not like non binary or gender fluid.
(12:20):
I'm just a dude. But so I'm like, why take
something from them if that's but if they my kind
of thought on it is, if that's what you want
to go by, I could care.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
So that's the thing too. It's just like, I don't
care what religion you are, what team you root for.
If that makes you happy, then yeah, go for it.
I could.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I know that when you were working on shows, you
worked with Matt Ingebretsen.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, Matt Britson.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I think I've had him on the show. Corporate is
such a genius show.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I love Corporate. Those are my buddies, Matt Ingabritsen, Jake
Weisman and Pat Bishop. They created Corporate and those are
my friends who I just love those They've really changed
my life.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
So dead pan. I had Jake on the show too. Yeah,
and when I had him on, he was talking about Corporate,
about how they were coming up with it, and I
asked that, yeah, whatever, and I'm like, Oh, I should
have been paying more attention, because you guys really did
come up with something genius.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, Corporate was so you know what they described corporate as.
I loved it when they told me they pitched it.
They pitched it as the office meet to American Cycle,
and that is corporate.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
That's what Corporate was, no doubt. And I know you've
also worked with the great Fred Armison too.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Work with Fred Armison, that's right, Yeah, worked with him.
I co created and starting a show called This Fool
that he's an ep on and I co created it
with Matt and Goabritain, Jake Weisman and Pat Bishop. But yeah,
and then I recently got to open for Fred. He
he does this really cool show called It's a comedy
show called Comedy for your musicians, but if you're not
(13:52):
a musician, you're also invited. And he had me come
up and do like ten to twelve minutes right before
he went.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, I saw his one man show on bassists. Oh yeah,
here at the Great because he had the one on
drums that was on Netflix. H yeah, yeah, and it's
he did the He had a famous basis the guy
from I forget who it was now, But what's the
name of the I'll figure out later. But the thing
(14:19):
I love about Fred is every time I hear a
Saturday Night Live comedian interview, like Bill Hayter said he
would throw up before the show, and like Will Fortes
said that he didn't think his mouth would move he
was so nervous. Is that Fred was never scared. And
when they would take the summer off, he'd like, I
can't wait to get back and start doing shows again.
Like he's absolutely the most fearless performer they ever met.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, even before, like those shows that I did with him,
he would look pretty calm and collective right before going
on stage, almost like nothing fazes him. Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So during the pandemic, did you do the Zoom shows
or the park shows?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Driving No, I did Zoom shows. I thought I'm not
going to do this, and then somebody asked me and
I said, you know what, I'm willing to humiliate myself
humiliating and zoom shows. I was like, how starve for attention?
Am I that I'm doing a zoom show?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But the thing is, it's like this job normally, I'm
by myself. I get no feedback, and I'll, you know,
I try. I'll say something funny now and I'm not
a comedian, and then maybe three years later I'll see
somebody at the Colosseum and they'll say, dude, that was hilarious,
and I'll be like, oh, thanks, but for you. And
comedians tell me they're doing a zoom and they're getting
no feedback, and all I can think of is I'm bombing.
(15:36):
I'm dying right now. Like, no, they're laughing. You can't
hear them, Yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Can't hear them. Yeah, because sometimes the hosts would be like, hey,
turn off your mics and turn up, and I'd be like,
all right, well I'm not going to hear anyone.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Was that? I mean, did you ever do like this show?
Like I know in New York they had tiny cover
they're up on the rooftops and sam Maillo is special.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Great special. Yeah I did. I did Outdoor show. Yeah,
I did some outdoor shows, parking lot shows, kind of
weird things like that, and I was like, I can't
wait for this to be over.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
So the other thing too, is that you know, I
know nowadays because of these TikTok people influencers. Yeah, I know,
comedy shows will book these people because they know they're
going to sell out. I understand, yeah, absolutely, but they
haven't sort of paid their dues. And also they'll get
on stage with maybe a tight fifteen and they got
to go forty five to an hour and they have
(16:29):
nothing that's right, So what's it like when these people
kind of like, I mean, I guess it's okay to
jump the line if you're brilliant, Yeah, but when you
jump the line and you don't know what you're doing,
is that frustrating?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
You know?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
It's yes, it can be, you know on a personal
level clause you're like, man, I work so hard. But
then also you're just like, man, these comedy clubs they
need people in there. This is sometimes you think to yourself, like,
if I'm trying to be mature about it, I go,
you know what, they put butts in seats. They're selling
out a bunch of shows this cut. Let's get these
(17:02):
guys in there, these men and women influencers in there
so this club could survive, and then get me in
there that way, right, I'm trying to I'm trying to
not live with hate in my heart.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Right that makes me think of your Ryan Gosling chunk.
Yes is you know, I'm gonna do your act for you.
But it's basically you hated hearing that he was a
nice guy because you're like, well, you're handsome. I need
the nice guys.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, I need nice guys stuff. I don't think I
always say this being nice as an ugly people quantity,
you know, Like if whenever I find out some like
really good looking guys nice, I go great, Now I
got to compete with you. That's annoying. It's like no, no, no,
leave that to us, because I've never walked into a
room and then got some got like a woman like
just by appearance. It takes me about a week of charm.
(17:47):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Let's the thing about Bobby Lee, Like whenever he was
in here, he would say, like, you want the genetic
genetic lottery, You're you're tall, you don't have to work
for attention. I'm like, do you really think, like I'm
six too, that's not even that tall that but he's
under the impression. And by the way, it's funny you
were talking about Seinfeld being in the audience. He didn't
know it. You know. Bobby Lee usually gets naked at
least yeah, underpants, And when he was starting off, he
(18:12):
was at Caroline's in Manhattan and he did a thing
where he got down to his underpants and no one laughed,
and then he got naked and it was crickets and
so he was sweating bullets. He came off the stage
real fast, holding all his clothes, and Chris Rock was
standing there and Chris Rock said to him. He goes,
I'll never forget it. He said, what are you doing man? Yeah,
(18:33):
and Bobby goes, I don't know. Does it haunts him
to this day.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I love that. I love that because that's kind of
a quintessential New York comedy, and I love New York comics.
I was informed by New York comedy a lot, but
like it's like quintessential, Like, dude, we have jokes.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Well, that's why I liked that. I mentioned Sam and
Mark Norman and Show This and every different comedian as
long as you're I we'll watch. But whenever I go
to New York and go to the Cellar in the
Vu Fat Black, they strip and have you done those clubs?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah? I actually just got past it the cellar.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, like congrats.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Like a week and a half ago, I was in
New York and had an audition s there. Yeah, Esty
was there, she watched me. It was a real big
honor to go there.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
You who are your two res?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I didn't have Rex. That's the problem. I kind of
went with things stacked against me because I got it
through my agent and they.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Hey, that's usually you need two Rex to even get
looked at it.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, but luckily I got it through my agent and
she said, yeah, we'll give him a shot. And then
I kind of went up with things against me because they,
you know, they're kind of like, he's coming in with Rex.
He's an LA guy, you know, is it going to
be an ahole or whatever? And then I went up
and I did really well, and then I felt really
good about it. She was like she told me she
was like, great job, and that was amazing. Yeah, that's amazing. Well,
(19:57):
you don't have to wait for the seller. You can
go see him at the Punchline tonight. You can see
him tomorrow night. Chriss Strata, thanks for coming in, man, yeah, man,
thanks for having me. I really appreciate this.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Good meeting you. I'm Rick Tittle. We'll come on back
on the other side with some open lines. You're listening
to the Rick Tittle Podcast on the eight Side Network.
Stay tuned for more. Welcome back to Sports Byline USA,
nationally syndicated out of San Francisco and around the world
on the American Forces Radio Network. Always great to welcome
back to the show. Bobcat Goldthwaite, comedian and actor and
(20:28):
still going strong because brand new today is his new
comedy album, Soldier for Christ via PGF Records, Digital and
vinyl available and he's got an album release party and
show tonight in Chicago. Bobcat, the picture on the front
(20:48):
was you, I assume as an altar boy or your
first communion or something? Is what is that?
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It's my first communion and that's I mean, if you
don't see the photo, the title just sounds weird Soldier
for Christ, but I yeah, that was my first communion photo.
It's like, man, what the hell happened to me? I
was so young and I had hope.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Well, my first communion picture, I think it's nineteen seventy
and I'm holding my ventriloquist dummy. I mean, if you
were a psychologist, you would have thought this kid is
going to be a serial killer.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Probably that is that would make a way better album cover.
That's pretty odesome. Yeah, I without a doubt I would
have had you in therapy. Was your dummy and a
gown too, or I mean your figure. I don't want
to insult you if you're a ventrop.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
It was a that was a dummy. It was one
of those Danny O day things. And there's one picture
of me doing like the praying hands and smiling, and
the other one I'm holding up my vent trillick was doll.
And I haven't been in jail yet knock on wood,
so I guess it was.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah. I had a Willie Tyler and Lester. I had
a Lester. Now that I would just terrify my ex wife.
I would just put it very maybe my ex right.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well, that's very actually that's very diverse of you to
have that doll.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've always been pretty uh pretty woke.
I'll run right into it.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
My brother had one of those because he wanted to
be like me. And then uh, but then you could
like scrape it and then part of the paint on
the afro would come off, and then it would look
like he had gray hair.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
You did you were you able to throw your voice?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Ah? Well, it was just like you're the dummy. No,
you're the dummy. And then my dad said say hello
to the people, and then go hello to the people.
And I don't think I tried since Nixon was president.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
So you know, uh, you know Otto and George, right,
remember them there?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You know that is Auto and George. I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Well, uh famous spanchil Christ and uh and uh he
was playing in uh in in a park in New
York City and was in Celtic when they stabbed the puppet.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Oh is that the puppet with a big eyebrows?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
He'd be really philby. Uh yeah, yeah, I stabbed I once.
I remember once I was on a plane and done him,
jumped down him. I can call him down him. He's
like prince I guess he was. We were both in
the first last and he didn't have room above because
(23:51):
he was in the the the the you know, the
the front at the very front, so he didn't have
room his his puppets wouldn't fit above him, so he
put him over my storage space. And then the flight,
you know, we land and everything, and he's looking back
at me like, hey, can you help a brother out?
So I had to carry Jeff Dunham's puppet off a plane.
(24:13):
One was I was Dunham's puppet pitch. I had.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
What's your contraband of Ventriloquis dummy like wow, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Big careful, Walter's in here and the Woozl Yeah. So
I have a new album. Yes, I'm working with Dana
Gould and we're making a new movie together, the two
of us. So keeping busy.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I love Dana and he was one of my favorites also,
and he over the years, he's been in there so
many times. He's one of the only people to have
had me sit in the green room with him, and
he's introduced me to a lot of people over the years.
I Dana Gold is probably my favorite guy. And I
know when you guys we had I had both of
you on the show when you were talking about your
little special you had and your your car accident and
(25:02):
all that. So what's new this time.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Well, I've got a hold of an unfinished Edwood movie,
and Dana is the biggest Edwood fan. I'm a pretty
big Edwood fan too. So it's an unfinished Edwood film,
and we are finishing the movie with the new actors
and trying to make it look like the nineteen sixty
eight film and the movie where Ed plays a madam
(25:28):
in a brothel in Vietnam. He's on the lamb from
the mob, and he's an erotic novelist. So it's a
tale as old as time. We're spending all of our
energy trying to get this thing done. It'll be again.
You know. There's some weird movie I make that make hundreds,
(25:49):
hundreds of dollars. But I'm excited about it. Oh, I
should pay. I'm playing Sacramento this weekend and then coming up.
I'm at the Punchline in San Francisco too.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
You got to come in studio, Bobcat.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, I'll come in when I'm in in San Francisco.
It would be great.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, that'd be great. I'm just getting a note here,
and I don't remember this, but that you played a
ventriloquist with Don Rickles and Pales from the Crypt yes,
I did.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I'm looking at a picture of it right now as
we speak. I yeah, and I had, But I wasn't
really a Ventrouvers. I had a spoiler. I had a
vestial twin attached to my like instead of a fit
that had a twin, and that I may or may
not have cut my arm off. But I loved wording
(26:41):
with Rickles. It was really really really gat.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You know, yeah that to me, and he's just the ultimate.
And when he would come on the Tonight Show and
they'd play that, I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Just like I had the Madador music. You know what's
funny is I don't really follow that much comedy, but
I've been going down rabbit hole. Was watching Wrickles recently,
just because he gets in the zone. You know that
you can tell that some of it's stuff he thought
of before, but you just feel like so much of
it is just really genuinely riffing. And I really I've
(27:14):
been watching I've been watching uh uh and and again
I wasn't I liked Wrinkles as a kid, but you
know now I'm super appreciating him. And then probably because
i'm his age now when I'm watching it. But and
uh and same thing with Rodney. I was never really interrupting.
I watching, and now I'm back watching him, and it's
watching him on Carson just destroying Johnny, and it's it's
(27:37):
it's weird that I'm appreciating these people. Normally, you're a
comedy fan and then you get into comedy. When I
got into comedy, I didn't like comedy. I was trying
to make fun of it. But now I have a
new respect for these folks.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I heard that the other day. I was did the
same thing and I was watching Rodney and I heard
one that I had no recollection of. It just killed me.
He said, my wife, she's so fat. She was standing
on the corner and a cop came over and said,
break it up. It's just like make up your own joke.
It's just so classic.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I think it's funny to watch him like, and Carson's
just going, uh, she's that fat. He's not saying anything,
oh the police, Yeah, you know he's not. He's just
trying to keep up.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
It's it's it's a I guess I guess am I
getting soft that now I'm getting nostalgia.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Well you think about you know, you're just a couple
of years older than me. Our generation, we grew up
with record albums and you know, we would sit in
a beanbag chair and look at the album cover and
then we would want to make sure that the stylus
was clean and oil it. And so I think it's
just funny we've come full circle. Soldier for Christ will
also be available on vinyl.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Huh yeah, yeah, And I'm shocked that people uh uh
played vinyl and like it. But uh yeah, it's it's
it's you know, I guess you can go back and
do that, you know. Yeah, remember just studying everything on
the album looking for I don't know, some insights into
(29:10):
the artist.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
It's funny. Someone was asking me, like, what comedy albums
did you listen to? And I was like, uh, everybody
listened to it is canceled, you know, it's what do
you hell? And I was looking at those albums although
uh mel Brooks two thousand year old man. I remember
(29:33):
finding that album. I didn't even know anything about it,
and you know, and half that record is in isn't
Yiddish and stuff, but I just it just was in
the comedy section at my library, and uh and and
I loved it so so you know, as long as
we got no bad touch stories about Bell coming out,
I think I'm safe. That was the album which helped
(29:56):
you like as a kid.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
For me, it was Let's Get Small Steve Martin. And
I know to this day, I know the entire album verbatim,
with the different ways he says every word, because I
think I listened to it ten thousand times.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Well, I wonder about that, you know how, like I
don't think they'll ever be anyone like that like that.
That was because I would watch, you know, I would
watch I would watch Steve Martin with my mother and
my biker brother and stuff. I remember Steve Martin came
to Syracuse and Tom Kenny and I, folks don't know
(30:33):
Tom Kenny. It's SpongeBob SquarePants. We've known each other since
we were six years old. And in fact, there's songs
on the album that we did when we were in
high school. Wow, and I yeah, And it's pretty impressive
two teenage boys writing songs and and there's no poop
or boob in the whole. But we didn't have money
(30:56):
to see Steve Martin. So we showed up to the
venue like really in the afternoon, and we brought lunches
and put our hair up in bandanas and looked like
we were the crew or something and just sat in
the place until the show started. We staid there for
like eight hours.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Wow you got in?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Did Tom take his glasses and go ooh and pull
them out and do the whole thing?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
No, next time my friend to see Martin, I should
give him like eight bucks to say, hey man, this
is for the show.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Well. The album is called Soldier for Christ with our
guests Bobcat, gold Waite and as I said tonight the
album release party in Chicago. It is available from PGF Records,
Digital and Vinyl. Bobcat, thanks for coming on and uh yeah,
Dane has been in here one hundred times. You got
to come in when you're at the punchline.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, I'll be I'll come in and say hi.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
All right, good stuff, Thank you, Bobcat gold Waite, everybody.
Soldier for Christ the new album. I'm Ricktilla. Take a
quick break, We'll come on back on Sportspolin. This has
been the Rick Tittle Podcast on the eight Side Network.
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