November 4, 2024 • 49 mins
SERIES 3 EPISODE 64: COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN
A-Block (1:44) SPECIAL COMMENT: Yeah, I heard it too.
I heard him he "shouldn't have left" the White House when his term ended. And I heard him say AT his rally that he wouldn’t mind people shooting at the reporters COVERING his rally. And I guess it’s shocking. Except he’s been saying these things (a little more coded) since 2015, and he said the shooting thing about Liz Cheney last Thursday night. And after all he is going through what the shrinks call “disinhibition” AT the rallies where he loses all sense of what he should say in private not public.
But that’s not what got me. I heard something I have never heard before. WHEN he said he wouldn’t mind people shooting the "fake news," he said he wouldn’t mind them shooting THROUGH "the fake news" - THROUGH it - AT him. Doesn’t that sound kind of… what’s the word? Suicidal?
Plus: I understand that we are inside the 48 hour bubble before the election and the pressure is like 887 Atmospheric Units and our rage against this creature and his cult that wants to burn this country to the ground – burn this world to the ground – and our amazement that there is ANYBODY voting for him – that RAGE is at unbearable levels – but… didn’t he sound kinda dead yesterday? At one point he was inaudible. At another, in North Carolina, he thought he was in Pennsylvania. Throughout, he sounded exactly like Hal the Computer in the movie “2001” when they unplugged him.
PRACTICALLY SPEAKING on the eve of the election, the polls continue to support a Harris victory (size TBD) and this shocking poll where she's up by 3 in Iowa hides an even more shocking number (she's ahead by 20 among women in the whitest part of the midwest). And the reaction to the pollster who published this 21 point swing from June tells you all you need to know about polling. They have previously insisted Ann Selser was an immortal. Now they're saying she's making the rest of them look bad by not tailoring her poll to fit their narrative.
B-Block (30:33) THINGS I PROMISED NOT TO TELL: A Trumpist has vowed to "castrate himself on camera" if Harris wins Iowa (if you're a Trumpist, haven't you already castrated yourself?). Chris Cillizza 2024 mocks everybody who didn't buy the conventional wisdom about the vice presidency (evidently including Chris Cillizza 2020, who had disproved it), and courtesy Tim Alberta in The Atlantic, we find a new reason to hate Trump. This is the real reason he's so mad Biden dropped out. Trump thought he had the perfect nickname for the President - and it's appalling.
C-Block (37:48) THINGS I PROMISED NOT TO TELL: I call it The Annual Day I Get Trapped Inside My Home Day. You know it - and may have seen it on TV yesterday - as "The New York City Marathon."
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Yeah,
I heard it too. I heard him say maybe he
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should never have left office. I heard him say at
his rally that he wouldn't mind people shooting at the
reporters covering his rally, And I guess it's shocking, except
he's been saying those things a little bit more coded
since twenty fifteen and twenty twenty, respectively. And he said
the thing about shooting about Liz Cheney last Thursday night,
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And after all, he is going through what the shrinks
call disinhibition at the rallies, where he loses all sense
of what he should say in private not public. And
he talks about the size of Arnold Palmer's putter, and
he tries to make a joke about his grabbing them
access Hollywood tape, ha ha, and he simulates oral se
with the microphone, and yeah, back on Earth one, that's
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still all shocking. But that's not what got me. On
the Sunday before the election, I heard something I have
never heard before from Trump when he said he wouldn't
mind people shooting the press. He said he wouldn't mind
them shooting through the press through it at him, shooting
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at him? Doesn't that sound kind of what's the word suicidal?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I have a piece of glass over here, and I
don't have a piece of glass there, and I have
this piece of glass here, But all we have really
over here is the fake news.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Man, And to get me, somebody would have to shoot
through the fake news.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
And I don't mind that so much.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Just I don't mind.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I don't mind that.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I mean, even within the boundaries of the wildest conspiracies.
At Butler, a maga gun nut did shoot at Trump.
This man has been shot or shot at and he's saying, well,
if you're gonna shoot at me again, at least he'll
be through my enemies. That's insanity. I mean, even compared
to a traditional Trump that's insanity. Plus again, I understand
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that we are inside the forty eight hour bubble before
the election, and the pressure in here is like eight
hundred and eighty seven atmospheric units, and our rage against
this creature and his cult that wants to burn this
country to the ground, that wants to burn this world
to the ground, and our amazement that there is anybody
voting for him, that that rage is at unbearable levels.
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But didn't he sound kind of dead yesterday too. I'm
not really daydreaming here or trying to express wish fulfillment.
But Christ, listen to him. Listen to how he says
I'm smart. In this next clip, he sounds utterly defeated.
He sounds like the life is draining out of him.
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In fact, what he sounds like is he sounds exactly
like how the computer in the movie two thousand and
one when they unplugged him.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I'm a pretty smart guy. I have genetic Do you
believe in genetics? I do you know? Fast race sources
produce fast race sources.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Whether you like it or not.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But I'm a very I believe in it, and I'm smart.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I mean, I would not have been surprised if Trump
had then started to sing Dasy days give me your
On the other hand, if in June you were leading
the most reliable, most revered state poll in the nation,
the Selleser Poll in Iowa, by eighteen points, and even
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on September fifteenth, you were still leading the Sealeser poll
in Iowa by four points, and three nights before the election,
suddenly you're losing the Selleser poll in Iowa by three points,
you'd be singing, Daisy two, I'm afraid Milagna, Milaennia. My
lead is going. I can feel it. I can feel it.
There is no question about it. I can feel it.
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I have a lot to say about the Iowa poll
and the polls in general in a moment. But let's
not leave this issue of cheap, amateur psychoanalysis here just yet.
I mean, in the midst of these tons of pressure,
we sometimes forget this. But if Trump does not win,
or does not stage an armed, violent revolution to regain power,
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he is going to jail. He is going to die there.
And I don't know how many others in this campaign
will go to jail. And I do not know what
happens inside a brain that has lived seventy eight years
inside a fantasy of his and his mother's creation, and
never truly been challenged by reality or merely by greater force.
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What happens to that brain when it must contend with
the prospect that all of this could happen, or most
likely will happen, or is happening right now. According to
Trump internal polling, almost alone in prominent polling, The New
York Times Siena poll has him alive in the swing states,
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tied in Michigan and Pennsylvania, ahead in Arizona, and his
campaign promptly responded to that yesterday by issuing a statement
accusing The Times of promulgating a quote voter suppression poll
designed to dampen his voter's enthusiasm. Siena pol is his
best poll right now. So what's the translation of that? Well,
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they needed that poll from the Times to claim he's
ahead in Michigan and Pennsylvania and everywhere else, because clearly
he's not. There are very bad things happening inside Trump
world right now, and inside Trump I mean like things
that happen inside bridges when they collapse. I mean yesterday,
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late yesterday in Kinston, North Carolina, Trump told the crowd
they had a great Republican Senate candidate there, David McCormick.
David McCormick is the Senate candidate in Pennsylvania. I can't
get past how he sounded yesterday. How his statement about
the quote fake news unquote did indeed include a not
at all hidden stochastic call for people to murder news
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reporters but by shooting through them at him. You know
the old joke about the circular firing squad. Even a
madman would recognize that Trump has proposed something worse than
a circular firing squad. He's proposed standing behind the guys
the firing squad is aiming at. Even a madman would
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recognize that the odds would be pretty good that whatever
happened to the reporters who were shot through, Trump would
also get shot. I think this is going to be
one of those episodes of this podcast in which I
inundate you with pop culture references from forty years ago.
But here's a slightly more recent one, and it's probably
one you don't know about. You may recall House of Cards,
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which was very entertaining until they abandoned the speed and
intensity of the original British version with the late great
Ian Richardson, and slowed down the series to a ratio
of about one minute of show per one minute of
real life. You know, next week in episode eight hundred
and ninety seven, the President say, and of course then
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there was the whole Evan k ac Spey thing. But
in the original book. This is the point in the
original book on which both the British and American series
are based, and the book is not that great. Actually,
the British TV series is perfect. In the book, the
psychotic Prime Minister with murder in his soul does not
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kill the reporter and does not throw her to her death,
but in fact gets caught, and the story ends with
him jumping from a courtyard high atop the houses of Parliament,
but not before lighting himself on fire. I'm not sure
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what kind of betting odds you can get on that
from polymarket. Right now, there is a day minus won
the most extraordinary of ironies. The New York Times leads
its Trump coverage by making something Trump said into far
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more than I think he meant. Quote. Former President Donald J.
Trump told supporters on Sunday that he shouldn't have left
the White House at the end of his term during
an end of campaign rally. Michael Gold and Maggie Haberman
wrote that, and I am ever more convinced after reading
it that the bottom line for both of them is
they are not that smart. They just aren't. Yes, this
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is me defending what Trump said about how he shouldn't
have left the White House when his term ended. This
is me sane washing Trump. He meant he shouldn't have left,
like he shouldn't have been voted out, or he shouldn't
have been forced to leave, or I mean in terms
of insurrection and coup and revolution and dictatorship. He says
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twenty three things a day far worse than this.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Who we had the safest in the history of our
country the day that I left. I shouldn't have left,
I mean honestly, because we did so we did so well.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
But that goes into the New York Times for all time.
Out of the headline, Trump tell supporters he shouldn't have
left the White House. And if you didn't hear or
see that clip, you would never know there was any
context to it whatsoever. So maybe this is the Times
attempt at to make good after a decade of adding
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context and caveats to Trump's madness that didn't exist and
he didn't deserve own. CNN did it too. They wrote
the article as well, says he shouldn't have left the
White House. So now it's official that's what he said.
Can't win them all, don So to summarize the Trump
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closing argument as publicly perceived is, please shoot reporters, even
if that means shooting me. And I want to see
is Cheney with nine guns firing pointed at her face.
And Porto Rico is garbage. And when I tried to
jiu jitsu the garbage image into a bloody shirt. From
my side, I couldn't manage to find the handle on
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the garbage truck door. And Arnold Palmer never had a
short game, and watch as I fell out my microphone
a week after I made a joke on this topic
about Kamala Harris and the crazy general and doctor Strangelove
who started nuclear war against Russia because he believed fluoridation
of the water supply was a communist plot. Was right.
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So I'm gonna let RFK Junior and floridation and vaccination
all get together in the same place where RFK will
end them all. And he in fact and every aation
except FaceTime masturbation. And I shouldn't have left the White
House even after I lost the election. I can't imagine
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where his poll lead went in Iowa after that. Okay,
about the polls before we go back to the Iowa Shaker.
Last polls from Pennsylvania Muhlenberg College Harris forty nine, Trump
forty seven, Marrist also Harris by two times, Sienna tied
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and they're angry about it. Ohio Miami University poll. Trump
is only up by three Florida before Tony winch Slip
or whatever his name was. In October, Trump led Harris
among Hispanic voters in Florida forty eight to forty one.
She now leads him eighty five to eight. So those
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quote jokes we could go yesterday, those quote jokes unquote,
they cost him fifty two points among all Hispanic voters
in Florida. The numbers in Pennsylvania and the other states
with large Puerto Rican populations. Scheduling Saturday, yesterday and today
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ten stops by Trump. Four in North Carolina. Their internals
in North Carolina are bad and they weren't helped when
it was clear he did not know he was in
North Carolina. And you've heard the bluster that he went
to Colorado and New Mexico. He went to Colorado and
New Mexico. He's expanding his maps. Their internals indicate they
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have a chance in Colorado and New Mexico. Axios reports
he went to Aurora and Albuquerque. Quote not because his
team thinks he'll win Colorado or New Mexico, but because
he liked the backdrops. To talk about illegal immigration? Is
it loll or Lowell? Now Iowa and that poll and
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the credibility of the polster and sells her. She only
does Iowa polls. She doesn't do weighted polls, she doesn't subtract.
She asks a bunch of people based on how they
fit into the demographics of Iowa and its voting patterns
and its concerns. And she's the one who insisted that
first time voters would dominate the Iowa Democratic caucuses like
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by sixty percent, and they would create a world changing upset.
This was in the year two thousand and eight. The
upsetee was Hillary Clinton and the upset tour was Barack Obama.
And the rest is and sells are getting almost everything right.
Since her last poll for the Iowa Senate twenty twenty two,
the Republican by twelve and the Republican won by twelve.
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For the presidency in twenty twenty, she had Trump winning
Iowa by seven. He won by eight. Iowa Senate twenty
twenty Republican by four. It was Republican by seven. Governor
in twenty eighteen, she messed up. She had the Democrat
winning by two and the Democrat lost by three twenty
sixteen presidency, though Trump by seven was Trump by nine
fourteen Senate Republican by seven, it was Republican by eight.
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Twenty twelve president, she had Obama by five. He won
Iowa by six, and we know about two thousand and eight.
Ann Selzer is the best polster in the nation. They
wrote at Nate Silver's five thirty eight dot com in
twenty sixteen. She started polling neighborhood moms when she was five,
asking them whether a family nickname was insulting to her.
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But of course, now Nate Silver, who doesn't work for
five thirty eight anymore, dismisses Ann Selzer as an outlier,
and other experts insist no swing state swings so dramatically
in a presidential race in one cycle like she's now
predicting in Iowa, even though, as I just mentioned, Obama
won Iowa by six in twenty twelve and then Trump
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won it by nine in twenty sixteen, which seems to
me like a swing of fifteen points in one cycle.
Besides which, as always, it really is the interior numbers
that matter most. Here, Selzer has Harris leading among women
in perhaps the whitest, most Midwestern state. We have by
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twenty points. That suggests an undercurrent of undying rage against
the Roe v. Wade reversal and the Trump handmaid's tail
campaign that we have not seen show up per se
in any polling, only in every vote since the Supreme
Court did what it did. She has found it and
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quantified it, and the number is two zero. Politico then adds,
in most Unpolitico fashion, that the poll quote also shows
voter sixty five and older, a block that typically favors Republicans,
breaking for Harris. That's particularly true among senior women, who
the survey found supporting Harris by more than two to
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one compared to senior men, who favor her by just
two points. That jibs with the Harris campaign's internal research,
which shows the VP continuing to make gains with women
and inroads with seniors, according to a senior campaign official
granted anonymity to discuss the private data, and it builds
upon other positive signs. Harris's team has seen at this
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late stage that the split screen between Harris's focus and
forward looking closing message and Trump's discursive in person appearances,
which veer widely away from the discipline message of his
campaign's TV ads and the remarks loaded onto his teleprompters
is helping to drive late deciding voters to her side.
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She's talking about issues and how crazy he is, and
he's saying, it's okay if you want to shoot me,
but shoot those reporters first. I have been hearing this
about what they have in the Harris campaign locked files
since July, and I've been mentioning it since July, and
I've been adding my own little mediocre analysis to it
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since late July. She's growing, he he's shrinking, and Nate
Silver can't handle that because even though his old site
said she was the best polster in the nation, he's
using all the new bells and whistles she won't use.
He's saying Trump is a slight favorite. Listen to what
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he wrote, and listen for the new in word in
polling Herding. Releasing this poll took an incredible amount of
guts because, let me state this as carefully as I can,
if you had to play the odds this time, Selzer
will probably be wrong. Harris's chances of winning Iowa nearly
doubled an hour model from nine percent to seventeen percent tonight,
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which isn't nothing. Polymarket shows a similar trend, moving from
six percent to eighteen percent after the survey. Polymarket is
a wagering site run by a fascist that, by the way,
pays Nate Silver. Anyway, he continues that still places Harris's
odds at around five to one against not five feet
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from where I'm sitting. Incidentally, is my framed copy of
the nineteen forty eight Chicago Tribune. Dewey defeats Truman. The
poll has a reasonable sample size eight hundred and eight
likely voters. Still, the margin of error for the difference
separating the candidates in a poll of that size is
plus six point six. That means, in theory, in ninety
five out of one hundred cases, the real number should
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be somewhere between Trump punch run thing Man Wow Wait
Wow Wow wait wow. Nate Silver as Charlie Brown's teacher,
so if he doesn't have a degree in that. There
was also a second Iowa poll out tonight, he wrote Saturday,
from Emerson College, that showed Trump leading by exactly that
nine point margin from twenty twenty. Emerson is a firm
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that does a lot of herding, so you ought to
account for that. They virtually never publish a survey that
defies the conventional wisdom. However, for what it's worth, their
margin of error runs from Trump plus fifteen point seven
to Trump plus two point five. In other words, Nate
is saying that the Emerson poles of no value, except
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he just said it was more important than the saleser pole,
and he is so mad at Selzer for not being
part of the herd. Earlier this week, Nate Silver wrote
about how dangerous herding was in polling herding quote took
a lot of guts to publish this. In other words,
polsters are fixing their polls, writes Nate Silver, altering who
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is a likely voter in their own polls to change
the results, suppressing their own polls. He's suggesting that Selzer
had the option to not publish this poll. I hate
to use this verb, but faking their own polls to
protect themselves rather than to add to what we understand
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about what might be happening out there, meaning their data
could be dismissed in whole or in part. And all
they're doing this for is the money. And if you
are involved in covering the future of this nation and
your only motive is money. F you do you think
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I do this for money? Do you think I ever
did it for money? Now, maybe initially I did it
for money, and then at some point you have enough
money and you don't have to do this anymore unless
you feel it has some value. And the first rule
of having some value is it has to be true. Oh,
I don't like the results of our poll. Change who
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the likely voters are. Get rid of all those Harris voters.
Get rid of all those women, senior women. Why would
they be interested in abortion rights? Their data could be
dismissed entirely, especially if they're Anne out there in Des
Moines where her afe is on the same block as
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not one, but two different knitting shops. You know where
I read that about the knitting shops. I read that
in the article about her at five thirty eight dot
com before they fired Nate silver As. I said, pop
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culture Overload podcast because for the life of me, I
do not know what there will be to put into
tomorrow's episode. I may not even do one on Wednesday
unless we have a landslide or something to talk about,
or it might be six minutes long. I have no
idea what there will be left to talk about. But
I cannot leave this polling issue while it is so
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prominent without going back to my favorite movie of all
time in Network, the dark and still disturbingly perfectly prescient
view of the politics and news media of tomorrow, as
seen from what we thought were the dark and disturbing
days of nineteen seventy six. Ha ha. The cronkite type
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network newscaster goes nuts, announces suddenly that he's going to
kill himself on the air, and of course the ratings
go through the roof. Next thing you know, he has
the top rated show on television. And of course they
dumb it down as much as possible. They expand it
to sixty minutes. They call it the Network News Hour,
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like it was the Smothers Brother's Hour or the Ted
mac Amateur Hour, and they put in all these nightly
familiar segments. One called Skeletons in the Closet with Miss
Mattahari celebrity gossip like you know half of what you
hear or see on all news radio or TV today.
Then it was laughable that anybody would even think to
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put that on television. They're Sybil the Soothsayer with her
predictions for the future, like you know, every political pundit
and every single goddamned sportscast on the continent, including your
opportunity to bet on each prediction for the future these
guys have just made. Then it's the emmis truth Department
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with Jim Webbing a mixture of lawsuits and conspiracy theories.
We don't have any of that in television news. And
of course, then the news anchor himself, Howard Beale, doesn't
do any news anymore. He just goes on these endless
political and sociological rants, and he tells people to flood
the White House with telegrams, and then he passes out
on the air, and golly, has that happened anywhere? Has
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any of the newscasters just become commentatorus? Maybe I should
leave this part of the subject alone. But as disturbing
as any of these nightly segments on what we saw
as a hyperbolic, impossible, prostituted future for television news was
another nightly segment on the network News Hour devoted to
one of the most shunned, most unreliable, most avoided components
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of what was then the cheapest and cheaper forms of news.
The segment was called Vox POPULARI. And it was no
host for that. There was no Miss Matta Harry, there
was no Jim Webbing. It was just a computer, a
big computer, and it was spitting out every night something
as impossible and sleazy and unnewsworthy as skeletons in the
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closet or Sybil to Sooox's share. And what it was
spitting out was public opinion, polls, shoes share, good evening.
Tom Broker also of interest here, almost ran into him
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at the Animal Medical Center in New York. They said, oh,
he's Tom Broker, was going to be here at two o'clock.
I went, I'll be out by one fifty nine. Also
of interest here, the definition of a pundit is to
mock everybody who took position A instead of position B,
having forgotten that same pundit had previously mocked everybody who
took position B instead of position A. And now we
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know why Trump is still so pissed off that Biden
dropped out. According to Tim Alberta in the Atlantic, Trump
thought he had a perfect nickname for Joe Biden, a
perfect self damning totally not a confession about Trump nickname
for Joe Biden. That's next. This is Countdown. This is
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Countdown with Keith Olberman still ahead on this editiontive countdown. Yeah,
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I never found out if Brokaw was coming in for
treatment or the last guy stumbled past my home just
a few hours ago. And they'll be coming around to
remove the barricades any month now. You know it. You
may have seen it on television yesterday as the New
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York City Marathon. I know it as the annual day
I Am trapped in my apartment day next in things
I promise not to tell first, there are still more
new idiots to talk about. The daily roundup of the
miss Grants, morons and Dunning Kruger effects specimens who constitute
two days worse persons in the world. Where's persons in
the world? Lebron's worst Republican operative, Joey Mannorino, Joey's not
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particularly bright. Kamala Harris is not winning IOWA, he posted
Saturday night. I'm so certain of it. I'll castrate myself
on camera if it happens. These people are just full
of absolute whatever. Sh Astris t absolute shot, Joey, I mean,
you're not that bright. It could be anything absolute shot.
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In the final days of this election. Joey castrate yourself
on camera. I mean you're you're a trumpists. You're castrating
yourself on camera again worser. Oh good lord. If there
were no Chris Solissa, some writer would win all the
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awards for having created him. This is from last Friday.
Tell me again, why picking the popular democratic governor of
the state you absolutely have to win as VP didn't
make sense? Okay, so we all decided to look into
this and how to tell Chris about how picking the
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popular governor of the state you absolutely have to win
as VP didn't make sense? And we found this from
twenty twenty CNN. Sometime this week, maybe as soon as today,
Joe Biden will announce his vice presidential running mate. Until
that moment, speculation over who he might pick and why
will run rampant in the vast majority of it will
be totally wrong. Why there's no part of politics and
campaigns more dictated by arcane conventional wisdom than the beepstakes.
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That conventional wisdom goes like this. The presidential nominee is
primarily guided by the electoral map when making his or
her pick. The person who winds up as the choices
someone the presidential candidate believes will help him deliver a
particular swing state or an area that the ticket badly
needs in order to win. The problem with that thinking,
wrote CNN in twenty twenty. A vice presidential pick has
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not been the critical piece of carrying a state or
a region since wait for it, Lyndon B. Johnson in
nineteen sixty. And that unanswerable argument for why picking the
governor of the state you absolutely have to win his
VP didn't make any sense was by Chris Salissa. He's stunning.
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It's absolutely least stunning. The man must never have read
anything he has written in his life, and he can't
possibly own a mirror or a phone. Worst though, Trump
bey himself. This is from Tim Alberta in The Atlantic.
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You remember Tim, He was the guy who killed and
buried Chris lickt. I urge you to read the entirety
of his piece on how this election has spun out
of control for Trump because truly I admire and respect
Kamala Harris, but if she is elected, it will be
at least half because Trump effing blew this. Maybe it
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was inevitable. Maybe the whole point is Trump is Trump.
He could have been winning by one hundred points and
still could have blown it. But Tim Alberta, who buried licked,
I think he has now buried Trump. Let me just
quote this, and I forgive you, or ask for your
forgiveness in advance, and forgive you too if you laugh
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for some of the language in this. It's not mine.
It's Trump's quote at the end of June, in the
after glow of a debate performance that would ultimately prompt
President Joe Biden to end his campaign for reelection, Tim
Alberta writes, Donald Trump startled his aids by announcing that
he'd come up with a new nickname for his opponent.
Quote the guys a retard. He's retarded. I think that's
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what I'll start calling him unquote. Trump declared aboard his
campaign plane in route to a rally that evening. According
to three people who heard him make the remarks, quote
retarded Joe Biden unquote. The staffers present and with ours
others who had heard about the epithet second hand, pleaded
with Trump not to say this publicly. They warned him
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that would antagonize the moderate voters who'd been breaking in
their direction while engendering sympathy for a politician who at
that moment was the subject of widespread ridicule. Ule As
Trump demurred, musing that he might debut the nickname at
that night's event. His staffers puzzled over the timing. Biden
was on the ropes. Poles showed Trump jumping out to
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the biggest lead he'd enjoyed in any of his three
campaigns for the presidency. Everything was going right for the
Republican Party and its nominee. Why would he jeopardize that
for the sake of slinging a juvenile insult? Unquote? Well,
Tim Alberta, I can answer your rhetorical question because Trump's
(32:40):
an asshole, and also because this is a reminder that
sometimes the oldest cliches are the best one. Every Republican
accusation is a confession. Donald Trump two days worst Person
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and the New York City Marathon. I have nothing against
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the New York City Marathon, but I will say this,
it's extraordinary to have seen the thing grow as it
has since my earliest days as a reporter. In the
late seventies and early eighties, when I was at CNN,
I got a phone call one day from a guy
claiming to be the publicist for the New York Marathon,
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which was a big thing. Ten or fifteen thousand people
would run it every year, but in some places they
had to dodge traffic because police would not shut down
all the streets for the early years of the New
York City Marathon, and the publicist said, look, if you'd
like to talk to our founder, Fred Leebow, who invented
this and got it off the ground as a rival
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to the Boston Marathon, or if you'd like to talk
to Bill Roydgers who's running in it and is internationally
famous as a runner, or several other internationally famous American runners.
We can arrange this for you. If you'd like to
just call us in the office when you have time
to come talk to us. We'll make it happen. And
I called and I got this answer, Hello New York
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City Marathon. I said, yes, Hi, Fred Libo's office, please,
And the man said speaking the head of the New
York City Marathon was answering the switchboard, and it soon
proved that Fred Libo was the same guy who had
posed as the publicist. He was, in fact the entirety
of the management structure of the New York City marathon
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as of nineteen eighty two, I guess the first time
I would have covered the race. And when I said
CNN was interested in doing a preview of the New
York Marathon, Oh, that's great, he said, in a rather
thick European accent. That's great. When would you like us
to meet you? I said, well, don't you have a
set press time or schedule? No, no, we'll we'll arrange
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it for you. When can you be here? It was
literally one of those things, what time do you want
to do this? When can you be here? And I said, well,
it looks like I can get the crew at three
o'clock tomorrow afternoon. Great, and I said okay, And then
Fred Liebo said where would you like us to be?
That's where the New York City Marathon was forty years
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ago compared to today, when they shut down my block
and make it impossible for anybody who does not have
identification showing that they live there to walk through without
a special pass. Congratulations on doing that. There's another story
from CNN days. It actually precedes my story. It's one
of the first big events that CNN tried to cover
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live and again. Now the rights to carry the New
York Marathon on television live costs millions of dollars and
are sold exclusively to whoever. I can't imagine anybody actually
watching people run as a sporting event, but there it is,
certainly not in a marathon format. It takes a little long.
But in those days, if you wanted to put the
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New York City Marathon on television, all you had to
do was point a camera at it. And so the
CNN idea was, let's get the start of the marathon
from the Verrizanto Narrows Bridge. Let's put it on live,
and let's actually try to do something that has never
been done before. Let's move our truck and show not
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just the start of the marathon, but we'll be several
hundred yards ahead of the front runners, and we'll show
that marathon live for forty five seconds or a minute
until our signal gives way, until we are no longer
able to be live. That was the thinking. So they
did this and were surprised, and I'm sure this was
nineteen eighty right after CNN signed on, And sure enough,
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they drove the truck and pointed the camera outside the
back window, and they got the start of the marathon
and the on going off in this scene of people
running towards the truck, and then suddenly the signal was
lost and there was this sound heard before the signal
was lost. Oh shut, and that was it. What had
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happened was in those days to do a live signal
from a moving truck, you couldn't just stick up a
little antenna, which you can do now. You had to
have a whole, essentially arm sticking up a six foot
tall mast that had to stick up above the truck
like well, you know when the electricity company comes to
repair your down power lines. One of those things. It
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didn't have a cage at the top of it for
somebody to stand in, but it would have supported somebody easily.
A six foot tall, probably one or two foot diameter mast,
and they were driving along the Verizona Narrows Bridge with
it and didn't realize that there were low lying overpasses
on the Verizono Narrow's Bridge for maintenance and painting and whatnot,
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and sure enough they drove right into one and the
damn thing snapped in half. For many years thereafter, Mary
Alice Williams, who was the main CNN anchor in New
York and also the vice president of the company and
also the bureau chief of CNN in New York, had
framed on her wall what looked to be something left
over from a drain at somebody's house. It was a
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bent piece of metal with a damage mark in the middle.
She had it framed on her wall, and I once
asked her what it was, And that's how I know
this story, because what it was was the CNN Live
truck mast that got snapped in half while they were
covering the nineteen eighty New York City Marathon live. The
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New York Marathon, of course, was also the home of
Rosie Ruiz, who later claimed to have been the winner
of the Boston Marathon. She'd gotten into the Boston Marathon
by claiming she had run in the New York City Marathon,
and then it turned out in both races. The reason
she had done so well when she was not internationally known,
nor ranked, nor known to have run a race in
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less than three hours, Rosie Ruiz in both the New
York City Marathon and the Boston Marathon of the eighties
solved the problem that faces so many many runners, that
was dead spots when you hit the so called wall.
She got around the wall by traveling part of the
route by a subway. In fact, she met up intentionally
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obviously with one of the reporters who covered her as
she was being given the laurels for winning one of
the marathons. And one of the reporters said, wait a minute,
I saw that woman on the subway on my way
over here. And that's how the whole Rosy Ruiz story unraveled.
Later efforts to promote the New York Marathon introduced me
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to a man I have mentioned here before, Abel Kiviat.
Abel Kiviat was one of the top milers in American
track and field in the early years of the twentieth century,
I mean nineth He was a guy from Queen's with
a remarkable accent, and his ninetieth birthday coincided with a
day they wanted to publicize the New York Marathon. So
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the publicity for this was at the Guggenheim Museum, which
was only half as old as Abel was. And Abel
came down and talked with his remarkable Queen's accent, and
he was telling us stories about how he won a
race in Waltham, Massachusetts in nineteen ten and he still
had the clock that they gave him, the watch they
gave him for winning the race, and he said, run
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to the damn sight better than I do. And then
we went outside and my producer had this great idea
that we'd get able to run a couple of steps
down Fifth Avenue, and we put that in the piece,
and of course Abel, who was still running for health reasons.
Abel decided that he would show us exactly what a
ninety year old man could do while running, and he
shot past the cameraman and we had to ask him
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to do it again because he was about fifty four
times faster than the cameraman mentioned or thought was going
to happen. Kivat the most interesting part of this, and
I wish I had gone even into more detail with
him than I did back in those days. In nineteen
eighty two, when I got to interview him, Able Kiviat
revealed he had been Jim Thorpe's roommate at the nineteen
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twelve Olympics. I've told the story in great depth, and
I won't do so here, but he said basically that
Jim Thorpe could do anything you could do better than
you could do it, and all he needed was to
watch you do it two or three times. He said, literally,
he could take that microphone out of your hands, and
a couple of days from now he'd be better at
it than you would be. And I said, well, I
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don't doubt that, but give me a better example of it.
And he told the story of how one night all
the English and the American athletes were trying to jump
up and touch the bottom prong of a chandelier, or
as he said it very endearingly, just like both of
my Bronx New York grandparents, the chambalier, the bottom of
the chandelier. He said. They were all having a nice
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time on board the ship in which they lived at
the nineteen twelve Olympics, and Thorpe was out drinking on
the town somewhere back on the mainland, and he came
out on a boat and back to their boat that
they were occupying, the ship they were all living on,
and all night all of the great athletes of the world,
including all the high jumpers, tried to reach up and
grab the bottom of this chandelier, just touch it. And
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now there was a pool of perhaps several hundred dollars
sitting in a hat on the floor. Thorpe, he says,
staggers in, looks up at the scene and goes, what's
going on? Fellas they explain it to him, and he goes, oh, okay.
He takes off his jacket. He does not take off
his vest. He unbuttons it and simply steps back three steps.
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And as Abel described it, he doesn't even do a
run and start. He just reaches up and grabs the
bottom piece of the chandelier and hangs on to it,
and we think the whole damn thing's coming down on
top of us. He lets go after a few seconds,
and in one sweeping gesture, he reaches down, takes the hat,
turns it over, grabs all the bills as they fall,
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stuffs them in his pocket, puts his own hat back
on his head, and says, have a good night, gentlemen.
That was who Jim Taupe was, all right. So that's
the New York Marathon. And if I think of the
New York Marathon, I necessarily think of the Los Angeles Marathon,
which started when I was a sportscaster in LA and
I was working for the radio station that somehow got
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the rights. I suspect we were paid to do this,
got the rights to do radio play by play of
a marathon. Now, think about this. Once in high school,
I once tried to do radio play by play of
a swim meet, which is really problematic if you lose
your indications of who is in which lane because the
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swimmers go underwater. But try to do eight or ten
hours of live coverage of a marathon on a news
radio station. That's what we did. And since I was
the sportscaster, they made me co anchor with the lead newscaster,
and we set up in front of a gas station.
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That's what it was, a gas station near the start
line of the Los Angeles Marathon, right next to the
coliseum in downtown LA. And at just the beginning of
the race, two minutes beforehand, they said, by the way,
we want you, Keith, We want you to do the
play by play of the race starting And I said
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from where? They said, from right here? And I said,
I can't even see the starting line from here. We're
going to see them all run past us. But we're
I don't know, a thousand yards from the start of
the race. I mean I can see them all down there.
What do you want me to say? They said, okay, no,
we thought of that. We have a solution to it.
And one of the engineers produced for me to stand
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on a folding metal chair that lifted me oh two
and a half feet off the ground, and by the way,
wasn't even steady, and they said call it from there.
And I did not have the heart to tell my
producers at CANX radio in Los Angeles that I couldn't
see a damn thing. I just made it up as
we went along. But for the next year's race, they
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had thought about this and remembered the problem that it represented.
So they got a wireless mic and they gave it
to me, and they said, about ten minutes before the
race is supposed to start, we want you to go
out onto that island that is on the other side
of the intersection where the marathon starts, so you'll be
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thirty yards away from the marathon start line. You'll be
facing it, and then we will throw it out to
you in thirty or forty seconds before the gun goes off,
and you can describe what that looks like. And I
can describe what it looks like because I have had
this nightmare once a month since the first time. We
did this in I think nineteen eighty seven, with me
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out in the island, twenty or thirty yards away from
the front line of the LA Marathon, which was at
that point maybe eighteen or twenty thousand people. A gun
goes off. You are standing by yourself, you are three
inches off the pavement, and suddenly eighteen or twenty thousand
people start running at high speed directly towards you. Think
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about that one for a while, and you can understand
some of the problems that I've had in my life
and my career ever since. Persecution, problems, paranoia, if you
want them, go stand in front of the traffic island,
twenty thirty yards in front of a marathon starting and
let eighteen thousand people run at you, even if you
were normal to begin with. And I'm making no claims
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about that that will change you in a hurry. Marathons
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Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Yeah,
I heard it too. I heard him say maybe he
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should never have left office. I heard him say at
his rally that he wouldn't mind people shooting at the
reporters covering his rally, And I guess it's shocking, except
he's been saying those things a little bit more coded
since twenty fifteen and twenty twenty, respectively. And he said
the thing about shooting about Liz Cheney last Thursday night,
(00:47):
And after all, he is going through what the shrinks
call disinhibition at the rallies, where he loses all sense
of what he should say in private not public. And
he talks about the size of Arnold Palmer's putter, and
he tries to make a joke about his grabbing them
access Hollywood tape, ha ha, and he simulates oral se
with the microphone, and yeah, back on Earth one, that's
(01:07):
still all shocking. But that's not what got me. On
the Sunday before the election, I heard something I have
never heard before from Trump when he said he wouldn't
mind people shooting the press. He said he wouldn't mind
them shooting through the press through it at him, shooting
(01:36):
at him? Doesn't that sound kind of what's the word suicidal?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I have a piece of glass over here, and I
don't have a piece of glass there, and I have
this piece of glass here, But all we have really
over here is the fake news.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Man, And to get me, somebody would have to shoot
through the fake news.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
And I don't mind that so much.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Just I don't mind.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I don't mind that.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I mean, even within the boundaries of the wildest conspiracies.
At Butler, a maga gun nut did shoot at Trump.
This man has been shot or shot at and he's saying, well,
if you're gonna shoot at me again, at least he'll
be through my enemies. That's insanity. I mean, even compared
to a traditional Trump that's insanity. Plus again, I understand
(02:47):
that we are inside the forty eight hour bubble before
the election, and the pressure in here is like eight
hundred and eighty seven atmospheric units, and our rage against
this creature and his cult that wants to burn this
country to the ground, that wants to burn this world
to the ground, and our amazement that there is anybody
voting for him, that that rage is at unbearable levels.
(03:10):
But didn't he sound kind of dead yesterday too. I'm
not really daydreaming here or trying to express wish fulfillment.
But Christ, listen to him. Listen to how he says
I'm smart. In this next clip, he sounds utterly defeated.
He sounds like the life is draining out of him.
(03:31):
In fact, what he sounds like is he sounds exactly
like how the computer in the movie two thousand and
one when they unplugged him.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I'm a pretty smart guy. I have genetic Do you
believe in genetics? I do you know? Fast race sources
produce fast race sources.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Whether you like it or not.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But I'm a very I believe in it, and I'm smart.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I mean, I would not have been surprised if Trump
had then started to sing Dasy days give me your
On the other hand, if in June you were leading
the most reliable, most revered state poll in the nation,
the Selleser Poll in Iowa, by eighteen points, and even
(04:21):
on September fifteenth, you were still leading the Sealeser poll
in Iowa by four points, and three nights before the election,
suddenly you're losing the Selleser poll in Iowa by three points,
you'd be singing, Daisy two, I'm afraid Milagna, Milaennia. My
lead is going. I can feel it. I can feel it.
There is no question about it. I can feel it.
(04:42):
I have a lot to say about the Iowa poll
and the polls in general in a moment. But let's
not leave this issue of cheap, amateur psychoanalysis here just yet.
I mean, in the midst of these tons of pressure,
we sometimes forget this. But if Trump does not win,
or does not stage an armed, violent revolution to regain power,
(05:02):
he is going to jail. He is going to die there.
And I don't know how many others in this campaign
will go to jail. And I do not know what
happens inside a brain that has lived seventy eight years
inside a fantasy of his and his mother's creation, and
never truly been challenged by reality or merely by greater force.
(05:25):
What happens to that brain when it must contend with
the prospect that all of this could happen, or most
likely will happen, or is happening right now. According to
Trump internal polling, almost alone in prominent polling, The New
York Times Siena poll has him alive in the swing states,
(05:46):
tied in Michigan and Pennsylvania, ahead in Arizona, and his
campaign promptly responded to that yesterday by issuing a statement
accusing The Times of promulgating a quote voter suppression poll
designed to dampen his voter's enthusiasm. Siena pol is his
best poll right now. So what's the translation of that? Well,
(06:10):
they needed that poll from the Times to claim he's
ahead in Michigan and Pennsylvania and everywhere else, because clearly
he's not. There are very bad things happening inside Trump
world right now, and inside Trump I mean like things
that happen inside bridges when they collapse. I mean yesterday,
(06:35):
late yesterday in Kinston, North Carolina, Trump told the crowd
they had a great Republican Senate candidate there, David McCormick.
David McCormick is the Senate candidate in Pennsylvania. I can't
get past how he sounded yesterday. How his statement about
the quote fake news unquote did indeed include a not
at all hidden stochastic call for people to murder news
(06:57):
reporters but by shooting through them at him. You know
the old joke about the circular firing squad. Even a
madman would recognize that Trump has proposed something worse than
a circular firing squad. He's proposed standing behind the guys
the firing squad is aiming at. Even a madman would
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recognize that the odds would be pretty good that whatever
happened to the reporters who were shot through, Trump would
also get shot. I think this is going to be
one of those episodes of this podcast in which I
inundate you with pop culture references from forty years ago.
But here's a slightly more recent one, and it's probably
one you don't know about. You may recall House of Cards,
(07:45):
which was very entertaining until they abandoned the speed and
intensity of the original British version with the late great
Ian Richardson, and slowed down the series to a ratio
of about one minute of show per one minute of
real life. You know, next week in episode eight hundred
and ninety seven, the President say, and of course then
(08:07):
there was the whole Evan k ac Spey thing. But
in the original book. This is the point in the
original book on which both the British and American series
are based, and the book is not that great. Actually,
the British TV series is perfect. In the book, the
psychotic Prime Minister with murder in his soul does not
(08:29):
kill the reporter and does not throw her to her death,
but in fact gets caught, and the story ends with
him jumping from a courtyard high atop the houses of Parliament,
but not before lighting himself on fire. I'm not sure
(08:50):
what kind of betting odds you can get on that
from polymarket. Right now, there is a day minus won
the most extraordinary of ironies. The New York Times leads
its Trump coverage by making something Trump said into far
(09:13):
more than I think he meant. Quote. Former President Donald J.
Trump told supporters on Sunday that he shouldn't have left
the White House at the end of his term during
an end of campaign rally. Michael Gold and Maggie Haberman
wrote that, and I am ever more convinced after reading
it that the bottom line for both of them is
they are not that smart. They just aren't. Yes, this
(09:37):
is me defending what Trump said about how he shouldn't
have left the White House when his term ended. This
is me sane washing Trump. He meant he shouldn't have left,
like he shouldn't have been voted out, or he shouldn't
have been forced to leave, or I mean in terms
of insurrection and coup and revolution and dictatorship. He says
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twenty three things a day far worse than this.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Who we had the safest in the history of our
country the day that I left. I shouldn't have left,
I mean honestly, because we did so we did so well.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
But that goes into the New York Times for all time.
Out of the headline, Trump tell supporters he shouldn't have
left the White House. And if you didn't hear or
see that clip, you would never know there was any
context to it whatsoever. So maybe this is the Times
attempt at to make good after a decade of adding
(10:33):
context and caveats to Trump's madness that didn't exist and
he didn't deserve own. CNN did it too. They wrote
the article as well, says he shouldn't have left the
White House. So now it's official that's what he said.
Can't win them all, don So to summarize the Trump
(10:55):
closing argument as publicly perceived is, please shoot reporters, even
if that means shooting me. And I want to see
is Cheney with nine guns firing pointed at her face.
And Porto Rico is garbage. And when I tried to
jiu jitsu the garbage image into a bloody shirt. From
my side, I couldn't manage to find the handle on
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the garbage truck door. And Arnold Palmer never had a
short game, and watch as I fell out my microphone
a week after I made a joke on this topic
about Kamala Harris and the crazy general and doctor Strangelove
who started nuclear war against Russia because he believed fluoridation
of the water supply was a communist plot. Was right.
(11:41):
So I'm gonna let RFK Junior and floridation and vaccination
all get together in the same place where RFK will
end them all. And he in fact and every aation
except FaceTime masturbation. And I shouldn't have left the White
House even after I lost the election. I can't imagine
(12:05):
where his poll lead went in Iowa after that. Okay,
about the polls before we go back to the Iowa Shaker.
Last polls from Pennsylvania Muhlenberg College Harris forty nine, Trump
forty seven, Marrist also Harris by two times, Sienna tied
(12:31):
and they're angry about it. Ohio Miami University poll. Trump
is only up by three Florida before Tony winch Slip
or whatever his name was. In October, Trump led Harris
among Hispanic voters in Florida forty eight to forty one.
She now leads him eighty five to eight. So those
(12:52):
quote jokes we could go yesterday, those quote jokes unquote,
they cost him fifty two points among all Hispanic voters
in Florida. The numbers in Pennsylvania and the other states
with large Puerto Rican populations. Scheduling Saturday, yesterday and today
(13:15):
ten stops by Trump. Four in North Carolina. Their internals
in North Carolina are bad and they weren't helped when
it was clear he did not know he was in
North Carolina. And you've heard the bluster that he went
to Colorado and New Mexico. He went to Colorado and
New Mexico. He's expanding his maps. Their internals indicate they
(13:35):
have a chance in Colorado and New Mexico. Axios reports
he went to Aurora and Albuquerque. Quote not because his
team thinks he'll win Colorado or New Mexico, but because
he liked the backdrops. To talk about illegal immigration? Is
it loll or Lowell? Now Iowa and that poll and
(13:58):
the credibility of the polster and sells her. She only
does Iowa polls. She doesn't do weighted polls, she doesn't subtract.
She asks a bunch of people based on how they
fit into the demographics of Iowa and its voting patterns
and its concerns. And she's the one who insisted that
first time voters would dominate the Iowa Democratic caucuses like
(14:21):
by sixty percent, and they would create a world changing upset.
This was in the year two thousand and eight. The
upsetee was Hillary Clinton and the upset tour was Barack Obama.
And the rest is and sells are getting almost everything right.
Since her last poll for the Iowa Senate twenty twenty two,
the Republican by twelve and the Republican won by twelve.
(14:44):
For the presidency in twenty twenty, she had Trump winning
Iowa by seven. He won by eight. Iowa Senate twenty
twenty Republican by four. It was Republican by seven. Governor
in twenty eighteen, she messed up. She had the Democrat
winning by two and the Democrat lost by three twenty
sixteen presidency, though Trump by seven was Trump by nine
fourteen Senate Republican by seven, it was Republican by eight.
(15:08):
Twenty twelve president, she had Obama by five. He won
Iowa by six, and we know about two thousand and eight.
Ann Selzer is the best polster in the nation. They
wrote at Nate Silver's five thirty eight dot com in
twenty sixteen. She started polling neighborhood moms when she was five,
asking them whether a family nickname was insulting to her.
(15:32):
But of course, now Nate Silver, who doesn't work for
five thirty eight anymore, dismisses Ann Selzer as an outlier,
and other experts insist no swing state swings so dramatically
in a presidential race in one cycle like she's now
predicting in Iowa, even though, as I just mentioned, Obama
won Iowa by six in twenty twelve and then Trump
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won it by nine in twenty sixteen, which seems to
me like a swing of fifteen points in one cycle.
Besides which, as always, it really is the interior numbers
that matter most. Here, Selzer has Harris leading among women
in perhaps the whitest, most Midwestern state. We have by
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twenty points. That suggests an undercurrent of undying rage against
the Roe v. Wade reversal and the Trump handmaid's tail
campaign that we have not seen show up per se
in any polling, only in every vote since the Supreme
Court did what it did. She has found it and
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quantified it, and the number is two zero. Politico then adds,
in most Unpolitico fashion, that the poll quote also shows
voter sixty five and older, a block that typically favors Republicans,
breaking for Harris. That's particularly true among senior women, who
the survey found supporting Harris by more than two to
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one compared to senior men, who favor her by just
two points. That jibs with the Harris campaign's internal research,
which shows the VP continuing to make gains with women
and inroads with seniors, according to a senior campaign official
granted anonymity to discuss the private data, and it builds
upon other positive signs. Harris's team has seen at this
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late stage that the split screen between Harris's focus and
forward looking closing message and Trump's discursive in person appearances,
which veer widely away from the discipline message of his
campaign's TV ads and the remarks loaded onto his teleprompters
is helping to drive late deciding voters to her side.
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She's talking about issues and how crazy he is, and
he's saying, it's okay if you want to shoot me,
but shoot those reporters first. I have been hearing this
about what they have in the Harris campaign locked files
since July, and I've been mentioning it since July, and
I've been adding my own little mediocre analysis to it
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since late July. She's growing, he he's shrinking, and Nate
Silver can't handle that because even though his old site
said she was the best polster in the nation, he's
using all the new bells and whistles she won't use.
He's saying Trump is a slight favorite. Listen to what
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he wrote, and listen for the new in word in
polling Herding. Releasing this poll took an incredible amount of
guts because, let me state this as carefully as I can,
if you had to play the odds this time, Selzer
will probably be wrong. Harris's chances of winning Iowa nearly
doubled an hour model from nine percent to seventeen percent tonight,
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which isn't nothing. Polymarket shows a similar trend, moving from
six percent to eighteen percent after the survey. Polymarket is
a wagering site run by a fascist that, by the way,
pays Nate Silver. Anyway, he continues that still places Harris's
odds at around five to one against not five feet
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from where I'm sitting. Incidentally, is my framed copy of
the nineteen forty eight Chicago Tribune. Dewey defeats Truman. The
poll has a reasonable sample size eight hundred and eight
likely voters. Still, the margin of error for the difference
separating the candidates in a poll of that size is
plus six point six. That means, in theory, in ninety
five out of one hundred cases, the real number should
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be somewhere between Trump punch run thing Man Wow Wait
Wow Wow wait wow. Nate Silver as Charlie Brown's teacher,
so if he doesn't have a degree in that. There
was also a second Iowa poll out tonight, he wrote Saturday,
from Emerson College, that showed Trump leading by exactly that
nine point margin from twenty twenty. Emerson is a firm
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that does a lot of herding, so you ought to
account for that. They virtually never publish a survey that
defies the conventional wisdom. However, for what it's worth, their
margin of error runs from Trump plus fifteen point seven
to Trump plus two point five. In other words, Nate
is saying that the Emerson poles of no value, except
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he just said it was more important than the saleser pole,
and he is so mad at Selzer for not being
part of the herd. Earlier this week, Nate Silver wrote
about how dangerous herding was in polling herding quote took
a lot of guts to publish this. In other words,
polsters are fixing their polls, writes Nate Silver, altering who
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is a likely voter in their own polls to change
the results, suppressing their own polls. He's suggesting that Selzer
had the option to not publish this poll. I hate
to use this verb, but faking their own polls to
protect themselves rather than to add to what we understand
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about what might be happening out there, meaning their data
could be dismissed in whole or in part. And all
they're doing this for is the money. And if you
are involved in covering the future of this nation and
your only motive is money. F you do you think
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I do this for money? Do you think I ever
did it for money? Now, maybe initially I did it
for money, and then at some point you have enough
money and you don't have to do this anymore unless
you feel it has some value. And the first rule
of having some value is it has to be true. Oh,
I don't like the results of our poll. Change who
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the likely voters are. Get rid of all those Harris voters.
Get rid of all those women, senior women. Why would
they be interested in abortion rights? Their data could be
dismissed entirely, especially if they're Anne out there in Des
Moines where her afe is on the same block as
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not one, but two different knitting shops. You know where
I read that about the knitting shops. I read that
in the article about her at five thirty eight dot
com before they fired Nate silver As. I said, pop
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culture Overload podcast because for the life of me, I
do not know what there will be to put into
tomorrow's episode. I may not even do one on Wednesday
unless we have a landslide or something to talk about,
or it might be six minutes long. I have no
idea what there will be left to talk about. But
I cannot leave this polling issue while it is so
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prominent without going back to my favorite movie of all
time in Network, the dark and still disturbingly perfectly prescient
view of the politics and news media of tomorrow, as
seen from what we thought were the dark and disturbing
days of nineteen seventy six. Ha ha. The cronkite type
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network newscaster goes nuts, announces suddenly that he's going to
kill himself on the air, and of course the ratings
go through the roof. Next thing you know, he has
the top rated show on television. And of course they
dumb it down as much as possible. They expand it
to sixty minutes. They call it the Network News Hour,
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like it was the Smothers Brother's Hour or the Ted
mac Amateur Hour, and they put in all these nightly
familiar segments. One called Skeletons in the Closet with Miss
Mattahari celebrity gossip like you know half of what you
hear or see on all news radio or TV today.
Then it was laughable that anybody would even think to
(23:57):
put that on television. They're Sybil the Soothsayer with her
predictions for the future, like you know, every political pundit
and every single goddamned sportscast on the continent, including your
opportunity to bet on each prediction for the future these
guys have just made. Then it's the emmis truth Department
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with Jim Webbing a mixture of lawsuits and conspiracy theories.
We don't have any of that in television news. And
of course, then the news anchor himself, Howard Beale, doesn't
do any news anymore. He just goes on these endless
political and sociological rants, and he tells people to flood
the White House with telegrams, and then he passes out
on the air, and golly, has that happened anywhere? Has
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any of the newscasters just become commentatorus? Maybe I should
leave this part of the subject alone. But as disturbing
as any of these nightly segments on what we saw
as a hyperbolic, impossible, prostituted future for television news was
another nightly segment on the network News Hour devoted to
one of the most shunned, most unreliable, most avoided components
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of what was then the cheapest and cheaper forms of news.
The segment was called Vox POPULARI. And it was no
host for that. There was no Miss Matta Harry, there
was no Jim Webbing. It was just a computer, a
big computer, and it was spitting out every night something
as impossible and sleazy and unnewsworthy as skeletons in the
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closet or Sybil to Sooox's share. And what it was
spitting out was public opinion, polls, shoes share, good evening.
Tom Broker also of interest here, almost ran into him
(25:50):
at the Animal Medical Center in New York. They said, oh,
he's Tom Broker, was going to be here at two o'clock.
I went, I'll be out by one fifty nine. Also
of interest here, the definition of a pundit is to
mock everybody who took position A instead of position B,
having forgotten that same pundit had previously mocked everybody who
took position B instead of position A. And now we
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know why Trump is still so pissed off that Biden
dropped out. According to Tim Alberta in the Atlantic, Trump
thought he had a perfect nickname for Joe Biden, a
perfect self damning totally not a confession about Trump nickname
for Joe Biden. That's next. This is Countdown. This is
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Countdown with Keith Olberman still ahead on this editiontive countdown. Yeah,
(27:00):
I never found out if Brokaw was coming in for
treatment or the last guy stumbled past my home just
a few hours ago. And they'll be coming around to
remove the barricades any month now. You know it. You
may have seen it on television yesterday as the New
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York City Marathon. I know it as the annual day
I Am trapped in my apartment day next in things
I promise not to tell first, there are still more
new idiots to talk about. The daily roundup of the
miss Grants, morons and Dunning Kruger effects specimens who constitute
two days worse persons in the world. Where's persons in
the world? Lebron's worst Republican operative, Joey Mannorino, Joey's not
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particularly bright. Kamala Harris is not winning IOWA, he posted
Saturday night. I'm so certain of it. I'll castrate myself
on camera if it happens. These people are just full
of absolute whatever. Sh Astris t absolute shot, Joey, I mean,
you're not that bright. It could be anything absolute shot.
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In the final days of this election. Joey castrate yourself
on camera. I mean you're you're a trumpists. You're castrating
yourself on camera again worser. Oh good lord. If there
were no Chris Solissa, some writer would win all the
(28:35):
awards for having created him. This is from last Friday.
Tell me again, why picking the popular democratic governor of
the state you absolutely have to win as VP didn't
make sense? Okay, so we all decided to look into
this and how to tell Chris about how picking the
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popular governor of the state you absolutely have to win
as VP didn't make sense? And we found this from
twenty twenty CNN. Sometime this week, maybe as soon as today,
Joe Biden will announce his vice presidential running mate. Until
that moment, speculation over who he might pick and why
will run rampant in the vast majority of it will
be totally wrong. Why there's no part of politics and
campaigns more dictated by arcane conventional wisdom than the beepstakes.
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That conventional wisdom goes like this. The presidential nominee is
primarily guided by the electoral map when making his or
her pick. The person who winds up as the choices
someone the presidential candidate believes will help him deliver a
particular swing state or an area that the ticket badly
needs in order to win. The problem with that thinking,
wrote CNN in twenty twenty. A vice presidential pick has
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not been the critical piece of carrying a state or
a region since wait for it, Lyndon B. Johnson in
nineteen sixty. And that unanswerable argument for why picking the
governor of the state you absolutely have to win his
VP didn't make any sense was by Chris Salissa. He's stunning.
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It's absolutely least stunning. The man must never have read
anything he has written in his life, and he can't
possibly own a mirror or a phone. Worst though, Trump
bey himself. This is from Tim Alberta in The Atlantic.
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You remember Tim, He was the guy who killed and
buried Chris lickt. I urge you to read the entirety
of his piece on how this election has spun out
of control for Trump because truly I admire and respect
Kamala Harris, but if she is elected, it will be
at least half because Trump effing blew this. Maybe it
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was inevitable. Maybe the whole point is Trump is Trump.
He could have been winning by one hundred points and
still could have blown it. But Tim Alberta, who buried licked,
I think he has now buried Trump. Let me just
quote this, and I forgive you, or ask for your
forgiveness in advance, and forgive you too if you laugh
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for some of the language in this. It's not mine.
It's Trump's quote at the end of June, in the
after glow of a debate performance that would ultimately prompt
President Joe Biden to end his campaign for reelection, Tim
Alberta writes, Donald Trump startled his aids by announcing that
he'd come up with a new nickname for his opponent.
Quote the guys a retard. He's retarded. I think that's
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what I'll start calling him unquote. Trump declared aboard his
campaign plane in route to a rally that evening. According
to three people who heard him make the remarks, quote
retarded Joe Biden unquote. The staffers present and with ours
others who had heard about the epithet second hand, pleaded
with Trump not to say this publicly. They warned him
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that would antagonize the moderate voters who'd been breaking in
their direction while engendering sympathy for a politician who at
that moment was the subject of widespread ridicule. Ule As
Trump demurred, musing that he might debut the nickname at
that night's event. His staffers puzzled over the timing. Biden
was on the ropes. Poles showed Trump jumping out to
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the biggest lead he'd enjoyed in any of his three
campaigns for the presidency. Everything was going right for the
Republican Party and its nominee. Why would he jeopardize that
for the sake of slinging a juvenile insult? Unquote? Well,
Tim Alberta, I can answer your rhetorical question because Trump's
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an asshole, and also because this is a reminder that
sometimes the oldest cliches are the best one. Every Republican
accusation is a confession. Donald Trump two days worst Person
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and the New York City Marathon. I have nothing against
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the New York City Marathon, but I will say this,
it's extraordinary to have seen the thing grow as it
has since my earliest days as a reporter. In the
late seventies and early eighties, when I was at CNN,
I got a phone call one day from a guy
claiming to be the publicist for the New York Marathon,
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which was a big thing. Ten or fifteen thousand people
would run it every year, but in some places they
had to dodge traffic because police would not shut down
all the streets for the early years of the New
York City Marathon, and the publicist said, look, if you'd
like to talk to our founder, Fred Leebow, who invented
this and got it off the ground as a rival
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to the Boston Marathon, or if you'd like to talk
to Bill Roydgers who's running in it and is internationally
famous as a runner, or several other internationally famous American runners.
We can arrange this for you. If you'd like to
just call us in the office when you have time
to come talk to us. We'll make it happen. And
I called and I got this answer, Hello New York
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City Marathon. I said, yes, Hi, Fred Libo's office, please,
And the man said speaking the head of the New
York City Marathon was answering the switchboard, and it soon
proved that Fred Libo was the same guy who had
posed as the publicist. He was, in fact the entirety
of the management structure of the New York City marathon
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as of nineteen eighty two, I guess the first time
I would have covered the race. And when I said
CNN was interested in doing a preview of the New
York Marathon, Oh, that's great, he said, in a rather
thick European accent. That's great. When would you like us
to meet you? I said, well, don't you have a
set press time or schedule? No, no, we'll we'll arrange
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it for you. When can you be here? It was
literally one of those things, what time do you want
to do this? When can you be here? And I said, well,
it looks like I can get the crew at three
o'clock tomorrow afternoon. Great, and I said okay, And then
Fred Liebo said where would you like us to be?
That's where the New York City Marathon was forty years
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ago compared to today, when they shut down my block
and make it impossible for anybody who does not have
identification showing that they live there to walk through without
a special pass. Congratulations on doing that. There's another story
from CNN days. It actually precedes my story. It's one
of the first big events that CNN tried to cover
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live and again. Now the rights to carry the New
York Marathon on television live costs millions of dollars and
are sold exclusively to whoever. I can't imagine anybody actually
watching people run as a sporting event, but there it is,
certainly not in a marathon format. It takes a little long.
But in those days, if you wanted to put the
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New York City Marathon on television, all you had to
do was point a camera at it. And so the
CNN idea was, let's get the start of the marathon
from the Verrizanto Narrows Bridge. Let's put it on live,
and let's actually try to do something that has never
been done before. Let's move our truck and show not
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just the start of the marathon, but we'll be several
hundred yards ahead of the front runners, and we'll show
that marathon live for forty five seconds or a minute
until our signal gives way, until we are no longer
able to be live. That was the thinking. So they
did this and were surprised, and I'm sure this was
nineteen eighty right after CNN signed on, And sure enough,
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they drove the truck and pointed the camera outside the
back window, and they got the start of the marathon
and the on going off in this scene of people
running towards the truck, and then suddenly the signal was
lost and there was this sound heard before the signal
was lost. Oh shut, and that was it. What had
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happened was in those days to do a live signal
from a moving truck, you couldn't just stick up a
little antenna, which you can do now. You had to
have a whole, essentially arm sticking up a six foot
tall mast that had to stick up above the truck
like well, you know when the electricity company comes to
repair your down power lines. One of those things. It
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didn't have a cage at the top of it for
somebody to stand in, but it would have supported somebody easily.
A six foot tall, probably one or two foot diameter mast,
and they were driving along the Verizona Narrows Bridge with
it and didn't realize that there were low lying overpasses
on the Verizono Narrow's Bridge for maintenance and painting and whatnot,
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and sure enough they drove right into one and the
damn thing snapped in half. For many years thereafter, Mary
Alice Williams, who was the main CNN anchor in New
York and also the vice president of the company and
also the bureau chief of CNN in New York, had
framed on her wall what looked to be something left
over from a drain at somebody's house. It was a
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bent piece of metal with a damage mark in the middle.
She had it framed on her wall, and I once
asked her what it was, And that's how I know
this story, because what it was was the CNN Live
truck mast that got snapped in half while they were
covering the nineteen eighty New York City Marathon live. The
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New York Marathon, of course, was also the home of
Rosie Ruiz, who later claimed to have been the winner
of the Boston Marathon. She'd gotten into the Boston Marathon
by claiming she had run in the New York City Marathon,
and then it turned out in both races. The reason
she had done so well when she was not internationally known,
nor ranked, nor known to have run a race in
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less than three hours, Rosie Ruiz in both the New
York City Marathon and the Boston Marathon of the eighties
solved the problem that faces so many many runners, that
was dead spots when you hit the so called wall.
She got around the wall by traveling part of the
route by a subway. In fact, she met up intentionally
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obviously with one of the reporters who covered her as
she was being given the laurels for winning one of
the marathons. And one of the reporters said, wait a minute,
I saw that woman on the subway on my way
over here. And that's how the whole Rosy Ruiz story unraveled.
Later efforts to promote the New York Marathon introduced me
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to a man I have mentioned here before, Abel Kiviat.
Abel Kiviat was one of the top milers in American
track and field in the early years of the twentieth century,
I mean nineth He was a guy from Queen's with
a remarkable accent, and his ninetieth birthday coincided with a
day they wanted to publicize the New York Marathon. So
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the publicity for this was at the Guggenheim Museum, which
was only half as old as Abel was. And Abel
came down and talked with his remarkable Queen's accent, and
he was telling us stories about how he won a
race in Waltham, Massachusetts in nineteen ten and he still
had the clock that they gave him, the watch they
gave him for winning the race, and he said, run
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to the damn sight better than I do. And then
we went outside and my producer had this great idea
that we'd get able to run a couple of steps
down Fifth Avenue, and we put that in the piece,
and of course Abel, who was still running for health reasons.
Abel decided that he would show us exactly what a
ninety year old man could do while running, and he
shot past the cameraman and we had to ask him
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to do it again because he was about fifty four
times faster than the cameraman mentioned or thought was going
to happen. Kivat the most interesting part of this, and
I wish I had gone even into more detail with
him than I did back in those days. In nineteen
eighty two, when I got to interview him, Able Kiviat
revealed he had been Jim Thorpe's roommate at the nineteen
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twelve Olympics. I've told the story in great depth, and
I won't do so here, but he said basically that
Jim Thorpe could do anything you could do better than
you could do it, and all he needed was to
watch you do it two or three times. He said, literally,
he could take that microphone out of your hands, and
a couple of days from now he'd be better at
it than you would be. And I said, well, I
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don't doubt that, but give me a better example of it.
And he told the story of how one night all
the English and the American athletes were trying to jump
up and touch the bottom prong of a chandelier, or
as he said it very endearingly, just like both of
my Bronx New York grandparents, the chambalier, the bottom of
the chandelier. He said. They were all having a nice
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time on board the ship in which they lived at
the nineteen twelve Olympics, and Thorpe was out drinking on
the town somewhere back on the mainland, and he came
out on a boat and back to their boat that
they were occupying, the ship they were all living on,
and all night all of the great athletes of the world,
including all the high jumpers, tried to reach up and
grab the bottom of this chandelier, just touch it. And
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now there was a pool of perhaps several hundred dollars
sitting in a hat on the floor. Thorpe, he says,
staggers in, looks up at the scene and goes, what's
going on? Fellas they explain it to him, and he goes, oh, okay.
He takes off his jacket. He does not take off
his vest. He unbuttons it and simply steps back three steps.
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And as Abel described it, he doesn't even do a
run and start. He just reaches up and grabs the
bottom piece of the chandelier and hangs on to it,
and we think the whole damn thing's coming down on
top of us. He lets go after a few seconds,
and in one sweeping gesture, he reaches down, takes the hat,
turns it over, grabs all the bills as they fall,
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stuffs them in his pocket, puts his own hat back
on his head, and says, have a good night, gentlemen.
That was who Jim Taupe was, all right. So that's
the New York Marathon. And if I think of the
New York Marathon, I necessarily think of the Los Angeles Marathon,
which started when I was a sportscaster in LA and
I was working for the radio station that somehow got
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the rights. I suspect we were paid to do this,
got the rights to do radio play by play of
a marathon. Now, think about this. Once in high school,
I once tried to do radio play by play of
a swim meet, which is really problematic if you lose
your indications of who is in which lane because the
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swimmers go underwater. But try to do eight or ten
hours of live coverage of a marathon on a news
radio station. That's what we did. And since I was
the sportscaster, they made me co anchor with the lead newscaster,
and we set up in front of a gas station.
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That's what it was, a gas station near the start
line of the Los Angeles Marathon, right next to the
coliseum in downtown LA. And at just the beginning of
the race, two minutes beforehand, they said, by the way,
we want you, Keith, We want you to do the
play by play of the race starting And I said
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from where? They said, from right here? And I said,
I can't even see the starting line from here. We're
going to see them all run past us. But we're
I don't know, a thousand yards from the start of
the race. I mean I can see them all down there.
What do you want me to say? They said, okay, no,
we thought of that. We have a solution to it.
And one of the engineers produced for me to stand
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on a folding metal chair that lifted me oh two
and a half feet off the ground, and by the way,
wasn't even steady, and they said call it from there.
And I did not have the heart to tell my
producers at CANX radio in Los Angeles that I couldn't
see a damn thing. I just made it up as
we went along. But for the next year's race, they
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had thought about this and remembered the problem that it represented.
So they got a wireless mic and they gave it
to me, and they said, about ten minutes before the
race is supposed to start, we want you to go
out onto that island that is on the other side
of the intersection where the marathon starts, so you'll be
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thirty yards away from the marathon start line. You'll be
facing it, and then we will throw it out to
you in thirty or forty seconds before the gun goes off,
and you can describe what that looks like. And I
can describe what it looks like because I have had
this nightmare once a month since the first time. We
did this in I think nineteen eighty seven, with me
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out in the island, twenty or thirty yards away from
the front line of the LA Marathon, which was at
that point maybe eighteen or twenty thousand people. A gun
goes off. You are standing by yourself, you are three
inches off the pavement, and suddenly eighteen or twenty thousand
people start running at high speed directly towards you. Think
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about that one for a while, and you can understand
some of the problems that I've had in my life
and my career ever since. Persecution, problems, paranoia, if you
want them, go stand in front of the traffic island,
twenty thirty yards in front of a marathon starting and
let eighteen thousand people run at you, even if you
were normal to begin with. And I'm making no claims
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about that that will change you in a hurry. Marathons
I have survived by Keith Olberman, things I promised not
to tell. I've done all the damage I can do here.
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