October 17, 2024 • 48 mins
SERIES 3 EPISODE 51: COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN
A-Block (1:44) SPECIAL COMMENT: I’d like to congratulate Kamala Harris on her victory in the Presidential Debate last night against (checks notes) Bret Baier. Despite the refusal by the moderator to stop her opponent from compulsively interrupting her. The moderator… (checks notes) Bret Baier. And despite the fact that when she called out Trump for threatening to use the military against citizens and jailing those who criticize him and about “the enemy within,” the anchor claimed to playing a clip of Trump pertaining to that only they did a bait-and-switch – the anchor played a Trump clip about a different topic… the anchor… (checks notes) Bret Baier.
She kicked Baier’s ass. She went on Fox and despite being subjected to a failed gotcha and conspiracy-theory interview that could have been prepared by Catturd or one of the other neurotic paranoids on the right, answered his questions AND called Fox out on its lies.
THE POLLING IS THE CHEF'S KISS: As the Harris interview aired on Fox News it put out its new poll. Last month it had HARRIS up by two, 50-48. NOW it has TRUMP ahead by two, 50-48 HOWEVER Fox’s polling – Registered voters - shows HARRIS AHEAD IN THE BATTLEGROUND STATES BY SIX POINTS. That’s all they say. If their current polling is correct Trump would win the popular vote but Harris would win the Electoral College. There are four other prominent polls that now show Harris at 50% or higher nationally.
It could all change tomorrow but right now, there is a polling surge - for Kamala Harris.
B-Block (19:41) THE WORST PERSONS IN THE WORLD: More from America's favorite media-political complex love triangle: Nuzzi, Lizza, and RFK Jr. James Dolan is not only now tied to the fascism of Trump, but the Madison Square Garden/Knicks/Rangers owner is also now tied to the idiocy of Mayor Eric Adams. And why are David Zaslav and Elon Musk hanging out? Lots of postulations but the obvious one seems to have been overlooked. What if Zaslav is trying to sell CNN to Elon?
C-Block (29:50) THINGS I PROMISED NOT TO TELL: The New York Post attacked me yesterday because I made a joke. A "crass" joke. One word and an emoji. It wasn’t crass. You may not have thought it was funny – but it wasn’t crass. THEY tweeted about the Ryan Lizza reply to my ex’s legal filing for what amounts to a restraining order against HER ex, with him saying she told him RFK Jr’s plan for Liv was to “impregnate and possess.” I added “Same” with the shrug emoji. Now it might not BE funny but to de-construct the effort: phrasing it that way I could’ve meant same as in that was ALSO my plan for her, or that it was RFK’s plan for me. Anyway – you decide if it was funny. I think it was. But they wrote an entire article about this because they were punishing me. When the Post attacks someone, if they fight bac, the rule there is – I’ve been told by their people – they have to attack harder. You’re supposed to accept the Post’s punishment and shut up. It’s Murdoch – it’s run like the mafia. Anyway, I didn’t. They were about to report that Olivia and I had dated, you may recall, so I beat them to it. Rupert Mad! So this was my punishment yesterday. They’ve been doing this – fake scandals followed by more fake scandals if I thwart them – since 1996.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. I'd
like to congratulate Vice President Kamala Harris on her victory
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in the presidential debate last night. Against Chex's notes, Brett beher,
despite the refusal by the moderator to stopped her opponent
from compulsively interrupting her. The moderator Chex's notes again, Brett beher,
and despite the fact that when she called out Trump
for threatening to use the military against citizens and jailing
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those who criticize him and about the enemy within, the
anchor claimed to be playing a clip of Trump pertaining
to that. Only they did a bait and switch. The
anchor played a Trump clip about a different topic. The
anchor Chex' notes a third time.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Brett beher question to the former president today, hers Faulkner
had a town hall, and this is how he responded.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I heard about that. They were saying I was like threatening.
I'm not threatening anybody. They're the ones doing the threatening.
They do phony investigations. I've been investigated more than Alphonse Capone.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
He was the greatest action. No, it's true, we don't
but think of it.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
It's called weaponization of government.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Is a terrible thing.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
So, Bret, I'm sorry, and with all due respect, that
clip was not what he has been saying about the
enemy within that he has repeated when he's speaking about
the American people.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
That's not what you just showed.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
He was asking.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
No, no, that's not what you just showed. In all
fairness and respect to you, the question that we asked him,
he didn't show that. And here's the bottom line. He
has repeated it many times, and you and I both
know that. And you and I both know that he
has talked about turning the American military on the American people.
He has talked about going after people who are engaged
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in peaceful protest. He has talked about locking people up
because they disagree with him. This is a democracy and
an inner democracy. The president of the United States, in
the United States of America should be willing to be
able to handle criticism without saying he'd lock people up
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for doing it. And this is what is at stake,
which is why you have someone like the former Chairman
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff saying what Mark Milly
has said about Donald Trump being a threat to the
United States of America. He's quoted in the Bob Woodward
book that way.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yes, let me ask you this matter, Vice President, you
called Donald Trump unificant.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
You back, she kicked Bear's ass. She went on Fox,
and despite being subjected to a failed gotcha and conspiracy
theory interview that could have been prepared by Cat Turd
or another one of those neurotic paranoids on the right
like Trump, she answered his questions and called Fox out
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on its lies. On Fox. Although I give bare credit,
he is apparently not resigned nor realized that until last
night he had not actually been out in the real
world talking to people who weren't sycophantic towards him in
his propaganda channel and the poisonous bastard who owns it,
Rupert Murdoch hadn't been out in the real world since
he was a local newscaster in Charlotte in nineteen FN
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ninety eight. He hasn't quit the business nor fled the country.
Well done. At the other extreme, Trump yesterday went on
a Fox women's town hall with actual Republican Party officials
among the questioners. They didn't reveal that, and when he
was still asked by somebody why the government had any
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authority over a woman's body. He answered by lying again
that everybody wanted Roe v. Wade overturned. And then he
went on Univision and did a town hall with questions
from the people he is the most prejudiced against him? Boy?
Is that saying something? Hispanics one man asking one question
in Spanish about this bullshit about the legal immigrants in
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Ohio eating pets that resulted in Trump denying that he
had ever said that was happening. He was just repeating
reports the central dehumanizing and degrading theme of his a
vance's campaign of hate and violence and nightmare, and Trump
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disabout it completely. Do you really believe that these people
are eating the people's pets?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Thank you well, thank you very much. And this was
just reported. I was just saying what was reported, that's
been reported, and eating other things too that they're not
supposed to be. But this is all I do is report.
I have not I was there, I'm going to be there,
and we're going to take a look, and I'll give
you a full report when I do. But that's been
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in the newspapers and reported pretty broadly.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Via Condio Donnie your meat. And just to round out
the set, Tim Walls did some more Tim waltzing yesterday,
which is why his approval numbers are within one point
of where they were right after the vice presidential debate.
But JV Vance did some more jv vancing yesterday, which
is why his approval numbers were minus two right after
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the debate but are now minus ten. Vance was again
asked about his repeated endless, nauseating tiptoeing around the question
of whether or not he believes Trump lost in twenty twenty,
and he finally answered it, and the answer was not great.
Not great JV on the election of twenty twenty. I've
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answered this question directly a million times. No, I think
there are serious problems in twenty twenty. So did Donald
Trump lose the election? Not by the words that I
would use. So it's Harris fresh off of victory over
Fox News on Fox News and over Trump by proxy
on Fox News versus Trump of the famous Trump pre
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recorded concert series and his running mate, a lunatic election
denier wearing eyeliner but back for a moment to bear
and the vice president. Throughout the interview, I kept flashing
back to thirty six years ago. May have been this month.
I was trying too hard in a brand new job
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at Channel two in Los Angeles. I did an absolutely terrible,
long satirical segment about a top draft choice who was
in the middle of a contract holdout from a local
sports team, and then I ran it again and only
shortened it a little bit, and it was terrible, not funny,
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not clever, not worth it. Bill Stout was one of
my friends and role models at KCBSTV. He had been
on the air doing news in LA at that point
for thirty nine years, and he was still in the
office every day though he was desperately ill, and he
would die still on the job almost exactly a year later.
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Bill had been involved in my hiring. He was very supportive,
and as I walked back to my desk after the
disaster of the Danny Manning satire, he looked at me
and said, I know, I know, look at it this way.
You have far more courage than I do. My boy,
if I had just put that on the air, I'd
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have gone home and nobody would have ever seen me
on TV again. And I laughed and I thanked him,
and I said, next time, tell me beforehand, and he
agreed in that spirit. Brett Vair Next time you're going
to try to bully and talk over and play gotcha
with and smear the Vice president of the United States
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and the likely next president of the United States. My
advice to you is, first quit your job and go
right to a monastery to atone I say the likely
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next president for a reason. As the Harris interview aired
on Fox News, Fox put out its new polling. Last month,
Fox had Harris up by two fifty to forty eight.
Now it has Trump ahead by two fifty to forty eight,
a four point swing. However, Fox's polling registered voters shows
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Harris ahead in the battleground states by six points. Six
points in the battlegrounds, that's all they say. Surprisingly enough,
they did not break this downstate by state, nor after
the initial mention in a very long story full of
very pretty graphs, did they ever circle back to the
point that she's winning in the battle ground states according
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to their polling, by six points. They made only one
further point way at the end, namely that if their
current polling is correct, Trump would win the popular vote,
but Harris would win the electoral College. I don't know
about you, but if Trump wins the popular vote and
Harris wins the Electoral College, I would be laughing so
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long that they would have to tape my mouth shut
during her inauguration address. Also on polling you gov for
the Economist, polling concluded Tuesday Harris forty nine Trump forty five,
Harris by four. But more importantly, last week in this
poll among Hispanic voters you gov for the Economist, it
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was Harris forty eight Trump forty three. This week in
the Economists poll among Hispanic voters, Harris sixty Trump thirty five.
That is a swing in Hispanic voters of twenty points
to Harris in one week. Economist average of polls Harris
forty nine point eight Trump forty six point seven, Harris
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by three and change and almost at fifty percent. Also
fairly Dickinson University poll Harris fifty Trump forty seven, and
two other polls to mention. As analyzed by the former
top Republican strategist Matt Dowd. He notes the most accurate
national poll from twenty twenty tip it had Biden up
by four, and Biden won the popular vote by four
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and a half, now has Harris up by three. He
notes that the most accurate poll from twenty sixteen, Marrist
had Clinton up by two in the popular vote. Clinton
won the popular vote by two point one percent. It
Marrist has Harris up by five. He concludes, very simply,
this race has been very stable for six weeks. For once.
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The actual numbers, even the ones Dowd does not cite
mean something. In that Mari Harris pole, she is up
by five. She's up fifty two to forty seven. In
that Tip pole. He mentions, it's Harris fifty to forty six.
I mentioned Fairley Dickinson in that one. It's Harris fifty
Trump forty seven. That is three prominent poles where she
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is at fifty percent or more. We don't know what
the number is in the Swing States in the Fox pole,
but if she's winning by six, she may be at
fifty in the Swing States. In the Fox pole. The
five point thirty eight average of poles has her up
by two point six. That is her biggest margin in
eight days. This crap turns on a dime. The Swing
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States in other polling still nauseatingly tight. No matter what
Fox says. That's so beneficial to Kamala Harris. But there
is unquestionably a polling surge going on right now, and
as of this moment, it is towards Kamala Harris, not
that you would know that from the new Ouse outlets.
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It continues the lead at Politico yesterday, Harris and Trump
exit their comfort zones, quoting actor sticking mostly though not entirely,
with more liberal friendly shows and podcasts. Sixty minutes is
a liberal friendly show, univisione town Hall idiots. She'll be
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in for a drastic change on Fox. Pete Buddha Jedgiside.
Party leaders rarely appear on the network because they think
the risk isn't worth the reward. You even absent the
hunt of the neck and neck presidential race, she kicked
their ass. How does Politico think Trump exited his comfort zone,
by the way, by being interviewed at the Economic Club
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at Chicago? Politicoat you had a wellness check lately? Is
this whole Liza thing really destroyed the place? I find
that hard to believe. When self proclaimed super business man
Trump sits down to talk business at an economic club
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with a business publication Bloomberg whose Twitter handle is at Business,
and he takes business questions from the business editor. He
did not just leave his business comfort Business Zone, Harris
kicked Brett Bear's ass, Trump crashed and burned in front
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of an audience full of of businessmen. Also of interest here, Oh,
there's still more newsy nudes news. There's so much revenge
popcorn and has caused the lining of my stomach to
burst in some places. And it's cold revenge popcorn too.
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And if that is not nightmare fuel, were you? Maybe
this will be? How about CNN being sold to Elon Musk.
That's next? Ted didn't like it. This is countdown.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
This is countdown with Keith Olberman.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Still ahead on this edition to countdown. So The New
York Post attacked me yesterday because I made a joke,
a crass joke. The crass joke consisted of one word
and an emoji, and it wasn't crass. You may not
have thought it was funny, but it wasn't crass. The
Post tweeted about the Ryan Lizzer reply to my ex's
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legal filing for what amounts to a restraining order against
her ex, with him saying she told him RFK Junior's
plan for Live was to impregnate and possess. I added
same with the shrug emoji. Now it might not be funny,
but to deconstruct the effort. Phrasing it that way, I
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could have meant same as in that was also my
plan for her, or same that it was rfk's plan
for me. Anyway, you decide if it's funny. I think
it was. But they wrote an entire article about this
incredibly crass because they were punishing me. When The New
York Post attacks someone, if that person fights back, the
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rule there is and I have been told this by
people who work and worked there, they have to attack harder.
You're supposed to accept the Post's punishment and shut up.
This is Murdoch. Murdoch runs his operation like the mafia
runs their operation. Anyway, I don't do that. They were
about to report if you'll remember that Olivia and I
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had dated, so I beat them to it. Rupert mad,
excuse me? Ope? It mad? So this was my punishment. Yesterday,
they make up a story. They've been doing this fake
scandals followed by reactions to fake scandals if I thwart them.
They've been doing this since nineteen ninety six. To me,
they've been doing it to everybody since Murdoch bought the paper.
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The process coming up and examples of it in things
I promised not to tell first, there are still more
new idiots to talk about, the daily roundup of the
miss Grants, morons and Dunn Kruger effects specimens who constitute
today's last passions in the world, the Bronze Worse. Okay,
why not, we're here anyway, new Zy, Ryan Lizza, and
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RFK Junior. Again, I don't know what day of this is,
but seriously, they are now in the Washington Post, and
clearly somebody gave the Washington Post the entirety of my
ex's ex's self defense filing to the court because this
is new and quoting the paper. Quoting this filing by
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Ryan lizab and a document filed with the court Friday
and made public Tuesday, Liza said Newsy's allegations were quote
defamatory lies that were meant to create sensational headlines, damage
my reputation, and distract from press attention about ms Newsy's
catastrophically reckless behavior. Unquote uh oh, catastrophically reckless behavior. You say, yeah,
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that's her. I'd recognize here anywhere. All right, So this
might change again, but right now I'm leaning towards Liza
being less wrong than Newsy. And by the way, Liza Newsy,
can we somehow work Lizo into this story. Also, there's
this from the wa Po, quoting the paper during tuesdays
virtual court hearing, Newsy's video showed her in a tastefully
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decorated room, wearing a black crew neck shirt with her
hair loose. She kept a straight face throughout the attorney's negotiations.
Liza appeared seated with his attorneys in a blue sweater
with a gray jacket. He looked disappointed when the judge
decided that the trial would be postponed until November. Two things.
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Once again, The Washington Post cannot look at Donald Trump
with makeup on his face where he's missed the whole
spot near his ear and say he put on his
makeup badly today, or whoever put it on for him
did it badly today. They can't say that. They can't
listen to him being insane every day of the week
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for the last nine years at least, and say the
man is insane. They can't publish historial, though they came
closest to it, describing what happened in Pennsylvania on Monday night,
what happened in Oaks Pennsylvania. When he went into that
fugue stayed and just decided to play all the hits.
They can't do that, but they can say that Ryan
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Lizza looked disappointed when the judge decided it. Did he
say something or you just saw the smirk on his
face changed slightly. You're basing the phrase he looked disappointed,
which is now in the Washington Post as fact based
on a reporter interpreting what they saw. Why don't you
do that with Trump? Why don't you all do that
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with Trump? Interpret what you saw? That's why you're there.
Otherwise they could just send the tape recorder and a
guy who presses the button and then goes second. Aside
with the popcorn I have already consumed during this story,
I have regained ten of the forty five pounds I
had lost, thanks a lot of kids. The runner up
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worser James Dolan, you know, the owner of the New
York Knicks, New York Rangers, and the home of the
only most famous arena in the world that he is
now responsible for having rented out to Nazi in two
consecutive centuries, Madison Square Nazi Garden. Dolan's name has popped
up again where trash like him should probably try to
avoid it. First, it was renting the garden to Trump
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for a fascist rally and fundraiser eight days before the election.
It'll be like when the Elephants used to come in
for the circus during the playoffs, the Stanley Cup playoffs,
and you'd go to a Rangers playoff game which had
to be rescheduled because the elephants had been taking huge
dumps on top of the garden over the ice, and
all you could do was go get a shovel. As
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I once said in radio in college. Yeah, elephant crap
and Trump. That's about the same now, in an event,
the Legal Defense Fun for New York's possibly doing this
deliberately as some sort of prank for a TV series
or something. Mayor Eric Adams Eric Adams, who has an
approval rating of not and whose city leadership divides evenly
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now into his appointees who have resigned, some under indictment
at his appointees who have not yet resigned. Dolan has
given the Eric Adams Legal Defense Fund five grand, and
another Dolan at the same address named Aiden, who appears
to be his son, has given another five grand, so
they have James Dolan, on the one hand tied to
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the disastrous, messianic mayor of New York and on the
other tied to the disastrous, psychotic presidential candidate of the
Republican Nazi Party. Let's go Rangers, but our winners David
Zaslav and Evon Musk. David Zaslav, Warner Bros. Discovery chieftain,
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the man who has run CNN into the ground to
the point where Lachlan Cartwright has reported now that they
couldn't afford raises for all their quote stars un quote.
The best anybody's getting is the same. They're already being
paid in new contracts, and they may let Chris Wallace go.
You know how old Chris Wallace is. He's two hundred
and six US more. Though, Oliver Darcy reports in his
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newsletter that David Zaslab is courting Elon Musk, Yes, Daddy
Warbucks himself Elon Musk, As Darcy notes in his newsletter's
status in March, Musky wrote, as mind blowingly tragic as
this sounds, some poor suckers still believe CNN. Yet Darcy
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scoops that when Musk and Zazlab were seen on the
telecast of Tennis's US Open last month, sitting next to
each other, it was actually just part two, again quoting Darcy.
Earlier in the summer, Zaslab had hosted Musk at his
ocean side estate off Lily Pond Lane in East Hampton.
People familiar with the matter told me Musk was traveling
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in the Haptins for a Michael Milken event and Zazlab
urged him to drop by regardless, Zaslav's relationship with Musk
extends beyond the occasional meetup. When not spending time together
in person, the two have been regularly exchanged For a second,
I thought it was FaceTime. In New Zealand, Lizzig and
an RFK Junior, thank God, have been regularly exchanging text messages.
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One of the people familiar with their relationship told me
they have a relationship. What kind of a relationship. No, don't, don't,
don't tell me. Oliver Darcy seems to think courting Musk
is just a mistake by Zaslav, And I mean that's
a valid thought. Zaslav makes mistakes by the car load lot.
But I think mister Darcy may be missing the real
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purpose here. Musk was willing to throw away billions to
buy Twitter, just to be the king of Dung Mountain
and turn the place into a huge contribution in kind
to the Trump campaign. If Musk is that dumb or
that stoned, why wouldn't he be dumb enough and stoned
enough to buy CNN from Zaslav. Can you imagine CNN
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owned by Elon Musk, the new lineup CNN Mornings with
the team of Elon Musk, Elon Musk and Elon Musk,
then the Midday Musk, then a phone in show called
Musk Hotel I like that one, Anderson Cooper Tonight with
Elon Musk, and of course the Situation Room with Wolf
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Flitzer with Elon Musk, And of course every time you
click over to CNN, your TV would explode. David, I
swear I don't look for these disasters. They choose me
Zaslab and Elon. I know we could close CNN, Musk CTV.
You get it must only with a K, you get
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it K instead of T. I'm funny. I'm funny. You
will laugh now K for ketamine, No, forget that part,
K for Musk Musk CTV, laugh now Musk two days
worst person and no wa he the number one story
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on the countdown on my favorite topic, me and things
I promised not to tell. And here we go again,
Rupert Murdoch's quote news outlets unquote shooting themselves in the
groin yet again while they were aiming at me. A
little timeline is required on this one. April eighteen sixty five.
Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States, was assassinated May
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twenty twenty, maybe earlier. May twenty twenty was the earliest
I remembered or found. Trump started claiming he had been
treated far worse than Abraham Lincoln had. March sixteenth, twenty
twenty four. Trump said it again. Then Biden Harris Headquarters
tweets the clip, adding Trump says he's been treated worse
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than Abraham Lincoln, who was assassinated also March sixteenth, twenty
twenty four. I retweeted that, adding there's always the hope.
March eighteenth, twenty twenty four, Fox News publishes a story
first headlined Keith Olderman appears to hope for Trump assassination,
but the headline was then changed to Keith Olderman's sparks
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outrage by hinting at trump assassination with a blue stripe
over my face reading Blue Blood Bath, meaning on some
level I am the same as Trump to the New
York Post and the Fox News and all the rest
of Murdoch's outlets. While I was tempted to answer this
by saying I was just referring to the auto industry,
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in reality, obviously I was and am hoping that Trump
will be right, and that he will be treated worse
than Abraham Lincoln, something worse than assassination, which would be
that Trump is convicted and dies in prison. I don't
know how many times I have said this, maybe more
than Trump's ludicrous charge that he's been treated worse than Lincoln.
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I may have actually said it more than he has
said that. I think I first said I hope he
dies in prison. I expect he dies in prison in
twenty sixteen. This is because I hope he dies in prison.
But of course the point of this is Murdoch and
Fox and especially the New York Post have been doing
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this to me since about nineteen ninety six, always always
getting it wrong, ever since I caught the Post in
a lie that year about a couple of hockey players
that it claimed had been thrown out of a New
York City bar for knocking over tables to the horror
of customers, when in fact I was with them, and
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they left the place in their own form of horror
because as one of them, Eric Lindross, stood up, he
almost knocked over the chair he was sitting in. He
said to the other, John Leclair, I think I've had enough.
We got to go home, Johnny, and they politely left,
but not before asking if I needed a lift. In
two thousand and one, the Post slammed me because I
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attended a New York Mets game while wearing cargo shorts.
A few years later, the Post showed a picture somebody
had snapped of me leaning against one of the gates
of Central Park here in New York and said I
was alone and depressed. Actually, I was alone and early
to my dental appointment across the street, and I was
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trying to talk myself into actually going into my doctor's office.
There was a brief interruption in the year during the
two and a half years or so that I worked
for Murdoch in Sports, a brief interruption in these constantly
hilarious stories before Murdoch personally fired me after I had
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reported with his office's full approval in advance that he
was working behind the scenes to sell the Los Angeles
Dodgers baseball team, which he was. Murdoch later boasted about
firing me, but he didn't say that. He didn't boast
about it until after he had sold the La Dodgers
baseball team. The origin of the post's quarter century of
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badly aimed shots at me stems from that firing. When
Murdoch fired me, his minions did it slowly in stages
over the course of a couple of days, in hopes
that they could get me angry and bait me into
attacking Fox and News Corp. In the newspapers, so that
then they could fire me for cause that way they
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wouldn't owe me the rest of the money on my
contract instead. As I've mentioned here before, given the choice
between waiting eight months to insult someone and getting a
lot of money, or getting no money and yelling at
them right now, I'll always wait the eight months. I
remained quiet for eight lovely months, and Rupert had to
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pay me one one hundred thousand dollars a month to
do that best job I ever had. So whenever this
happens and somebody says, why don't you sue Murdoch Go,
sue News Corps, sue the New York Post. I always say,
what kind of money could I get from them that
could hurt them more than that eight hundred thousand dollars
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back in two thousand and one. Also, most of the
stuff they do is so hilariously wrong, like the worse
than Lincoln story, that it's transparently desperate. But twice they
threatened me with stories that I had to take some
action about. Once they completely made one up, and once
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they ran a story even though the FBI and the
Department of Homeland Security specifically asked them not to run it.
The obligatory reminder before I tell you those two stories,
you should never believe any source story you read in
The New York Post or indeed on any mets me
outlet owned by the Murdochs. Like Fox, they occasionally report
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real things, but just as often they make stuff up.
Not exaggerate or get slightly wrong or twist, but utterly fabricate.
On April eleventh, two thousand and five, the New York
Post was to run exactly the kind of story I'm
talking about, only under threat of multiple lawsuits did they
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actually spike it. I hadn't told this story before, but
I was reminded of it. I think going through the
mechanics of it will illustrate just how evil an organization
News Corp. Actually Is and more importantly, how unreliable it
is as a source of news. As a New York
Post Page six gossip story, this one, though, had everything.
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It attacked MSNBC. It had quotes from informed sources, and
even at one point it had a witness. Now the
witness disappeared during the evolution of this story, but at
one point it had a witness. It had somebody prominent
insulting Peter Jennings, the newscaster, right after he had revealed
he had lung cancer, and it was constructed in such
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a way that if I did not comment on it,
they could print the story, then come back the next day,
rehash it and add that I was still refusing to
comment on it. But there was one overriding problem. It
was a complete fabrication, and thus it was full of
events that didn't happen and people who did not exist.
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New York Post Page six contacted MSNBC's then media relations guy,
Jeremy Gaines on Thursday, April seventh, two thousand and five,
with the following story. Keith Olderman, a quote frequent critic
of President Bush, had refused to anchor the coverage of
the death of Pope John Paul the Second, pretended to
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be ill and called in sick instead. There was, as
I suggested earlier, a major problem here. I had anchored
the coverage of the death of Pope John Paul the Second.
I had been anchoring the primetime coverage four hours each weeknight,
day after day, leading up to the potiffs passing. There
were viewers who had seen me. There were studio staffers.
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Carl Bernstein was there. He was the inn studio papal expert.
He was on the air with me every night for
like six nights in a row. There were video tapes.
Joe Torre, then the manager of the New York Yankees,
called me to compliment me on my reverential coverage of
the Pope's illness. That did not stop. The New York
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Post in the first version that page six told us
it was going to print their unnamed source had been
on board an Amtrak Acella train going from Washington, DC
to New York, sitting near my agent. As my agent
talked to somebody on a cell phone. This is apparently
a very favorite construction when the New York Post wants
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to make up a story about somebody their witness said.
My agent complained that I had had a quote meltdown
after quote calling in sick rather than anchoring the papal coverage,
which I anchored, but there was more quote. Alderman, a
frequent critic of the president's policies, said it was better
in sports. They quoted my agent quoting me into the phone.
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I'll be dealing with this all day now. Apart from
the fact that I had anchored the coverage, they said
I had not anchored. There was another major flaw in
this story. My agent was not on a train from
Washington to New York on the day in question, or
the week in question, or the month, or in fact,
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the year in question. My agent told me she thought
she had once been on a train from Washington to
New York in the year nineteen sixty seven. My agent
at that time lived a top Mount Shasta in California,
and so seldom left there that when she once drove
to town to get the mail, I asked her for
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the details of her trip because I jokingly suggested to
her we should lead the newscast with it. So the
next day, Friday, April eighth, two thousand and five, New
York Post Page six came back with a different version
of this same story. They had misheard their source. Of course,
it wasn't my agent on the train from DC to
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New York. It was a woman who worked for my agent,
a woman named Susan. A woman named Susan whom I had,
they would report, already phoned three times that morning, and
I was to meet her urgently at the boat House
in Central Park, presumably because meeting her in the middle
of Penn Station when she got off that train would
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have been a little too public. MSNBC's Jeremy Gaines responded
again with some irrefutable refutations. Nobody named Susan worked for
my agent. In fact, nobody at all worked for my agent.
She was independent. She had a working relationship with a
small agency in Los Angeles, and basically they covered her
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phone calls when she was on vacation, which she almost
never was, because she never left the top of Mount
effing Shasta. We called that agency and they confirmed that
not only did they not have anybody working for them
named Susan, but nobody from that agency was even on
the East Coast or had been so far that entire year.
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At this point I called the television columnist of the
New York Post and off the record, explained to him
that I was kind of furious, and this time I
was actually going to sue, but that NBC was far
angrier than I was, and that they were going to
sue as well, and sue the editor of page six. Personally,
I calmly went through the facts of this. This guy,
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the TV guy, had a conscience, he sighed. He said
he got those kind of calls more often than I
would believe. And I said, no, I believe it. And
he said he would go to the editor of page
six and explained somebody was lying to him, the editor,
and he was going to get himself sued into bankruptcy
over a really obviously untrue and completely disproved story. Okay,
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So now a couple hours later, New York Post Page
six calls again demanding a comment from me on the
third different version of their exhaustive papals scoop. No. The
woman their witness heard, who they first said was my agent,
then said she had gotten it wrong. It was a
woman named Susan who worked for my agent. She had
now become a woman who worked for my agent, whose
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name the witness never heard. But she was talking to
somebody else named Susan. And there was an additional quote
now thrown in, I'll be dealing this all day now,
had morphed into I'll be dealing with this all day now.
The same week Peter Jennings makes his announcement about having
lung cancer, this idiot, a frequent critic of President Bush,
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is sitting around in his pajamas calling me about this.
I'll spare you how I know this was not true.
It has something to do with the fact that I
don't wear pajamas. Years later, a former gossip reporter in
Murdoch's employ explained to me that his celebrity and gossip
people are taught never to back down from a confrontation,
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and that if the subject of one of their hit
jobs fires back or tries to refute, or especially threatens
legal action, to keep making the story worse and worse
for them. And in the first decade of this century, anyway,
you were supposed to try to work in a defense
of George W. Bush but there's also what she said.
They called an emergency exit. If there is no question
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that the story is nonsensical, if the basic spine of
the story does not line up with provable facts, just
abandon it. Abandon it. Don't tell the subject of your
attack that you are abandoning it. Just don't make any
more phone calls, don't send it any more emails about it.
Just vanish. Just disappear the story, and then send the
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name of the subject of the story that you've just punted.
Send it around to all the other Murdoch operations to
see if they can come up with any dirt on
the subject, to punish them for fighting back against Rupert
Murdoch's lies. So they abandoned the story, and it took
the New York Post a year and a half to
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get me back, and to get back the Department of
Homeland Security and the FBI. On September twenty six, two
thousand and six, I opened an envelope bearing a California
postmark at my home in New York. I shouldn't have
done it, but bluntly, I'll confess to this, I thought
it was some baseball cards I had bought off eBay
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Well it wasn't. The envelope contained a sticky substance looked
like draino mixed with talcum powder, and it fell out,
and accompanying notes said it was anthrax. Now I and
other Liberals would get a taste of our own medicine.
Even reading those chilling words and having covered the actual
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anthrax letters terrorist attacks of two thousand and one when
I was with CNN, I knew it was an anthrax.
The guy who supposedly sent the actual anthrax in two
thousand and one was an expert in the field, and
even he masshandled the stuff so badly that supposedly he
gave himself anthrax and died of it. On the other hand,
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I know the odds were impossible, but what if I
was wrong. My apartment building was filled with little old
ladies who had lived there since Roosevelt was president. I
only assumed that meant Franklin, not Theodore. The odds were.
I don't know one in a billion that it was anthrax.
But who was I to dismiss this one in a
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billion chance that these little old ladies were going to
get anthrax? Who was I to make that call? So
instead I made a call. I called the FBI. Well,
it was quite an evening. The cops showed up, the
FBI showed up. They said, of course it's not anthrax,
but we have to act like it is. Welcome to
our new world. The hazmat squad came in. They set
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up a command post in the building. They swept my
apartment and they said, okay, now you have to go
to the emergency room for tests. And I said, it's
not anthrax. You just said so. And they said, if
we have to do this, you have to do this too.
I laughed. Plus, if you don't, we can arrest you
as a threat to public health, and we can make
you go to the hospital. So out I went into
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an ambulance dressed in a hazmat suit one size too
small that really cut in the groin. I spent the
night getting checked out. The FBI then called and said,
it's like it's like draino with ivory soap flakes. But
they also said there had been other letters that had
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arrived that night and the night before, sent to people
like the chairman of CBS and David Letterman's office, and
Nancy Pelosi and some poor guy who happened to have
the name John Stewart, who was not the John Stuart.
And they couldn't make me do this, but it would
really help if I did not report what happened on
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my TV show that night, just for the one day,
do it tomorrow, because they had a lead on the
guy who had sent all these letters and they didn't
want to scare them off. And I said, sure, I'm
a patriot. The next day, while we were still observing
the embargo on the story, my story, planning to run
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it at eight o'clock at night, New York Post page
six led with a picture of me with the headline
powder Puff spooks Keith and making sure to identify me
as quote, a frequent critic of President Bush's policies. The
New York Post mocked me for not just assuming it
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was fake antrax and ignoring it, and claimed I insisted
the cops should take me to the hospital. Quote whether
they gave him a lollipop on the way out isn't known.
By the way, one of the actual anthrax letters in
two thousand and one, one of the letters with actual
anthrax in it that got some people sick and killed
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a little old lady, had been mailed to the New
York post and one of their staffers had contracted anthrax,
and still this was their attitude towards anthrax threats. Anyway,
as it turned out, there was a guy in California
sending out these threatening letters, each with fake antras, to
about a dozen people. He sent me four of them. Ultimately,
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I soon knew the FBI guys by their first names.
I pointed out to FBI Doug that the last envelope
I received had a bar code on it. Maybe they
could track the guy that way, and he said, oh,
you're right, And the next time I knew the FBI
had just videotaped the suspect mailing yet another letter to me,
the fifth from his home in Woodland Hills, California, and
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I swear to god he actually lived in his mother's
basement at age thirty seven or something. And FBI Doug said,
do we have your permission to pull a letter out
of the mailbox and open it? I said sure, And
the next thing I knew the guy was sentenced to
prison for like eighteen months, but not before FBI Doug said,
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by the way, that barcode, you noticed it. It connected
to the post office here, and that's where we found
his address, and we also found the fact that he
purchased a postal money order for fifteen dollars made out
to the Catherine Harris for Florida Senate campaign, if you
remember her from Gore V. Bush and his online history.
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We looked that all up. It's all about how she
Catherine Harris and some woman Na Laura something or another.
They are the most beautiful women in history. And I said, Laura,
Laura Ingram, and FBI Doug said, yeah, that's it, Laura Ingraham.
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And if that isn't ten years of my life in
one sentence, courtesy of the New York effing Post, I
don't know what is. I've done all the damage I
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can do here. Thank you for listening. We're now back
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feldon dissociative fugue Jay Trump's first attempted coup against the
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Speaker 2 (48:04):
Gusts
Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. I'd
like to congratulate Vice President Kamala Harris on her victory
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in the presidential debate last night. Against Chex's notes, Brett beher,
despite the refusal by the moderator to stopped her opponent
from compulsively interrupting her. The moderator Chex's notes again, Brett beher,
and despite the fact that when she called out Trump
for threatening to use the military against citizens and jailing
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those who criticize him and about the enemy within, the
anchor claimed to be playing a clip of Trump pertaining
to that. Only they did a bait and switch. The
anchor played a Trump clip about a different topic. The
anchor Chex' notes a third time.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Brett beher question to the former president today, hers Faulkner
had a town hall, and this is how he responded.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I heard about that. They were saying I was like threatening.
I'm not threatening anybody. They're the ones doing the threatening.
They do phony investigations. I've been investigated more than Alphonse Capone.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
He was the greatest action. No, it's true, we don't
but think of it.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
It's called weaponization of government.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Is a terrible thing.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
So, Bret, I'm sorry, and with all due respect, that
clip was not what he has been saying about the
enemy within that he has repeated when he's speaking about
the American people.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
That's not what you just showed.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
He was asking.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
No, no, that's not what you just showed. In all
fairness and respect to you, the question that we asked him,
he didn't show that. And here's the bottom line. He
has repeated it many times, and you and I both
know that. And you and I both know that he
has talked about turning the American military on the American people.
He has talked about going after people who are engaged
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in peaceful protest. He has talked about locking people up
because they disagree with him. This is a democracy and
an inner democracy. The president of the United States, in
the United States of America should be willing to be
able to handle criticism without saying he'd lock people up
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for doing it. And this is what is at stake,
which is why you have someone like the former Chairman
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff saying what Mark Milly
has said about Donald Trump being a threat to the
United States of America. He's quoted in the Bob Woodward
book that way.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yes, let me ask you this matter, Vice President, you
called Donald Trump unificant.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
You back, she kicked Bear's ass. She went on Fox,
and despite being subjected to a failed gotcha and conspiracy
theory interview that could have been prepared by Cat Turd
or another one of those neurotic paranoids on the right
like Trump, she answered his questions and called Fox out
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on its lies. On Fox. Although I give bare credit,
he is apparently not resigned nor realized that until last
night he had not actually been out in the real
world talking to people who weren't sycophantic towards him in
his propaganda channel and the poisonous bastard who owns it,
Rupert Murdoch hadn't been out in the real world since
he was a local newscaster in Charlotte in nineteen FN
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ninety eight. He hasn't quit the business nor fled the country.
Well done. At the other extreme, Trump yesterday went on
a Fox women's town hall with actual Republican Party officials
among the questioners. They didn't reveal that, and when he
was still asked by somebody why the government had any
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authority over a woman's body. He answered by lying again
that everybody wanted Roe v. Wade overturned. And then he
went on Univision and did a town hall with questions
from the people he is the most prejudiced against him? Boy?
Is that saying something? Hispanics one man asking one question
in Spanish about this bullshit about the legal immigrants in
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Ohio eating pets that resulted in Trump denying that he
had ever said that was happening. He was just repeating
reports the central dehumanizing and degrading theme of his a
vance's campaign of hate and violence and nightmare, and Trump
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disabout it completely. Do you really believe that these people
are eating the people's pets?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Thank you well, thank you very much. And this was
just reported. I was just saying what was reported, that's
been reported, and eating other things too that they're not
supposed to be. But this is all I do is report.
I have not I was there, I'm going to be there,
and we're going to take a look, and I'll give
you a full report when I do. But that's been
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in the newspapers and reported pretty broadly.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Via Condio Donnie your meat. And just to round out
the set, Tim Walls did some more Tim waltzing yesterday,
which is why his approval numbers are within one point
of where they were right after the vice presidential debate.
But JV Vance did some more jv vancing yesterday, which
is why his approval numbers were minus two right after
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the debate but are now minus ten. Vance was again
asked about his repeated endless, nauseating tiptoeing around the question
of whether or not he believes Trump lost in twenty twenty,
and he finally answered it, and the answer was not great.
Not great JV on the election of twenty twenty. I've
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answered this question directly a million times. No, I think
there are serious problems in twenty twenty. So did Donald
Trump lose the election? Not by the words that I
would use. So it's Harris fresh off of victory over
Fox News on Fox News and over Trump by proxy
on Fox News versus Trump of the famous Trump pre
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recorded concert series and his running mate, a lunatic election
denier wearing eyeliner but back for a moment to bear
and the vice president. Throughout the interview, I kept flashing
back to thirty six years ago. May have been this month.
I was trying too hard in a brand new job
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at Channel two in Los Angeles. I did an absolutely terrible,
long satirical segment about a top draft choice who was
in the middle of a contract holdout from a local
sports team, and then I ran it again and only
shortened it a little bit, and it was terrible, not funny,
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not clever, not worth it. Bill Stout was one of
my friends and role models at KCBSTV. He had been
on the air doing news in LA at that point
for thirty nine years, and he was still in the
office every day though he was desperately ill, and he
would die still on the job almost exactly a year later.
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Bill had been involved in my hiring. He was very supportive,
and as I walked back to my desk after the
disaster of the Danny Manning satire, he looked at me
and said, I know, I know, look at it this way.
You have far more courage than I do. My boy,
if I had just put that on the air, I'd
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have gone home and nobody would have ever seen me
on TV again. And I laughed and I thanked him,
and I said, next time, tell me beforehand, and he
agreed in that spirit. Brett Vair Next time you're going
to try to bully and talk over and play gotcha
with and smear the Vice president of the United States
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and the likely next president of the United States. My
advice to you is, first quit your job and go
right to a monastery to atone I say the likely
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next president for a reason. As the Harris interview aired
on Fox News, Fox put out its new polling. Last month,
Fox had Harris up by two fifty to forty eight.
Now it has Trump ahead by two fifty to forty eight,
a four point swing. However, Fox's polling registered voters shows
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Harris ahead in the battleground states by six points. Six
points in the battlegrounds, that's all they say. Surprisingly enough,
they did not break this downstate by state, nor after
the initial mention in a very long story full of
very pretty graphs, did they ever circle back to the
point that she's winning in the battle ground states according
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to their polling, by six points. They made only one
further point way at the end, namely that if their
current polling is correct, Trump would win the popular vote,
but Harris would win the electoral College. I don't know
about you, but if Trump wins the popular vote and
Harris wins the Electoral College, I would be laughing so
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long that they would have to tape my mouth shut
during her inauguration address. Also on polling you gov for
the Economist, polling concluded Tuesday Harris forty nine Trump forty five,
Harris by four. But more importantly, last week in this
poll among Hispanic voters you gov for the Economist, it
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was Harris forty eight Trump forty three. This week in
the Economists poll among Hispanic voters, Harris sixty Trump thirty five.
That is a swing in Hispanic voters of twenty points
to Harris in one week. Economist average of polls Harris
forty nine point eight Trump forty six point seven, Harris
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by three and change and almost at fifty percent. Also
fairly Dickinson University poll Harris fifty Trump forty seven, and
two other polls to mention. As analyzed by the former
top Republican strategist Matt Dowd. He notes the most accurate
national poll from twenty twenty tip it had Biden up
by four, and Biden won the popular vote by four
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and a half, now has Harris up by three. He
notes that the most accurate poll from twenty sixteen, Marrist
had Clinton up by two in the popular vote. Clinton
won the popular vote by two point one percent. It
Marrist has Harris up by five. He concludes, very simply,
this race has been very stable for six weeks. For once.
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The actual numbers, even the ones Dowd does not cite
mean something. In that Mari Harris pole, she is up
by five. She's up fifty two to forty seven. In
that Tip pole. He mentions, it's Harris fifty to forty six.
I mentioned Fairley Dickinson in that one. It's Harris fifty
Trump forty seven. That is three prominent poles where she
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is at fifty percent or more. We don't know what
the number is in the Swing States in the Fox pole,
but if she's winning by six, she may be at
fifty in the Swing States. In the Fox pole. The
five point thirty eight average of poles has her up
by two point six. That is her biggest margin in
eight days. This crap turns on a dime. The Swing
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States in other polling still nauseatingly tight. No matter what
Fox says. That's so beneficial to Kamala Harris. But there
is unquestionably a polling surge going on right now, and
as of this moment, it is towards Kamala Harris, not
that you would know that from the new Ouse outlets.
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It continues the lead at Politico yesterday, Harris and Trump
exit their comfort zones, quoting actor sticking mostly though not entirely,
with more liberal friendly shows and podcasts. Sixty minutes is
a liberal friendly show, univisione town Hall idiots. She'll be
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in for a drastic change on Fox. Pete Buddha Jedgiside.
Party leaders rarely appear on the network because they think
the risk isn't worth the reward. You even absent the
hunt of the neck and neck presidential race, she kicked
their ass. How does Politico think Trump exited his comfort zone,
by the way, by being interviewed at the Economic Club
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at Chicago? Politicoat you had a wellness check lately? Is
this whole Liza thing really destroyed the place? I find
that hard to believe. When self proclaimed super business man
Trump sits down to talk business at an economic club
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with a business publication Bloomberg whose Twitter handle is at Business,
and he takes business questions from the business editor. He
did not just leave his business comfort Business Zone, Harris
kicked Brett Bear's ass, Trump crashed and burned in front
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of an audience full of of businessmen. Also of interest here, Oh,
there's still more newsy nudes news. There's so much revenge
popcorn and has caused the lining of my stomach to
burst in some places. And it's cold revenge popcorn too.
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And if that is not nightmare fuel, were you? Maybe
this will be? How about CNN being sold to Elon Musk.
That's next? Ted didn't like it. This is countdown.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
This is countdown with Keith Olberman.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Still ahead on this edition to countdown. So The New
York Post attacked me yesterday because I made a joke,
a crass joke. The crass joke consisted of one word
and an emoji, and it wasn't crass. You may not
have thought it was funny, but it wasn't crass. The
Post tweeted about the Ryan Lizzer reply to my ex's
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legal filing for what amounts to a restraining order against
her ex, with him saying she told him RFK Junior's
plan for Live was to impregnate and possess. I added
same with the shrug emoji. Now it might not be funny,
but to deconstruct the effort. Phrasing it that way, I
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could have meant same as in that was also my
plan for her, or same that it was rfk's plan
for me. Anyway, you decide if it's funny. I think
it was. But they wrote an entire article about this
incredibly crass because they were punishing me. When The New
York Post attacks someone, if that person fights back, the
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rule there is and I have been told this by
people who work and worked there, they have to attack harder.
You're supposed to accept the Post's punishment and shut up.
This is Murdoch. Murdoch runs his operation like the mafia
runs their operation. Anyway, I don't do that. They were
about to report if you'll remember that Olivia and I
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had dated, so I beat them to it. Rupert mad,
excuse me? Ope? It mad? So this was my punishment. Yesterday,
they make up a story. They've been doing this fake
scandals followed by reactions to fake scandals if I thwart them.
They've been doing this since nineteen ninety six. To me,
they've been doing it to everybody since Murdoch bought the paper.
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The process coming up and examples of it in things
I promised not to tell first, there are still more
new idiots to talk about, the daily roundup of the
miss Grants, morons and Dunn Kruger effects specimens who constitute
today's last passions in the world, the Bronze Worse. Okay,
why not, we're here anyway, new Zy, Ryan Lizza, and
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RFK Junior. Again, I don't know what day of this is,
but seriously, they are now in the Washington Post, and
clearly somebody gave the Washington Post the entirety of my
ex's ex's self defense filing to the court because this
is new and quoting the paper. Quoting this filing by
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Ryan lizab and a document filed with the court Friday
and made public Tuesday, Liza said Newsy's allegations were quote
defamatory lies that were meant to create sensational headlines, damage
my reputation, and distract from press attention about ms Newsy's
catastrophically reckless behavior. Unquote uh oh, catastrophically reckless behavior. You say, yeah,
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that's her. I'd recognize here anywhere. All right, So this
might change again, but right now I'm leaning towards Liza
being less wrong than Newsy. And by the way, Liza Newsy,
can we somehow work Lizo into this story. Also, there's
this from the wa Po, quoting the paper during tuesdays
virtual court hearing, Newsy's video showed her in a tastefully
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decorated room, wearing a black crew neck shirt with her
hair loose. She kept a straight face throughout the attorney's negotiations.
Liza appeared seated with his attorneys in a blue sweater
with a gray jacket. He looked disappointed when the judge
decided that the trial would be postponed until November. Two things.
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Once again, The Washington Post cannot look at Donald Trump
with makeup on his face where he's missed the whole
spot near his ear and say he put on his
makeup badly today, or whoever put it on for him
did it badly today. They can't say that. They can't
listen to him being insane every day of the week
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for the last nine years at least, and say the
man is insane. They can't publish historial, though they came
closest to it, describing what happened in Pennsylvania on Monday night,
what happened in Oaks Pennsylvania. When he went into that
fugue stayed and just decided to play all the hits.
They can't do that, but they can say that Ryan
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Lizza looked disappointed when the judge decided it. Did he
say something or you just saw the smirk on his
face changed slightly. You're basing the phrase he looked disappointed,
which is now in the Washington Post as fact based
on a reporter interpreting what they saw. Why don't you
do that with Trump? Why don't you all do that
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with Trump? Interpret what you saw? That's why you're there.
Otherwise they could just send the tape recorder and a
guy who presses the button and then goes second. Aside
with the popcorn I have already consumed during this story,
I have regained ten of the forty five pounds I
had lost, thanks a lot of kids. The runner up
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worser James Dolan, you know, the owner of the New
York Knicks, New York Rangers, and the home of the
only most famous arena in the world that he is
now responsible for having rented out to Nazi in two
consecutive centuries, Madison Square Nazi Garden. Dolan's name has popped
up again where trash like him should probably try to
avoid it. First, it was renting the garden to Trump
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for a fascist rally and fundraiser eight days before the election.
It'll be like when the Elephants used to come in
for the circus during the playoffs, the Stanley Cup playoffs,
and you'd go to a Rangers playoff game which had
to be rescheduled because the elephants had been taking huge
dumps on top of the garden over the ice, and
all you could do was go get a shovel. As
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I once said in radio in college. Yeah, elephant crap
and Trump. That's about the same now, in an event,
the Legal Defense Fun for New York's possibly doing this
deliberately as some sort of prank for a TV series
or something. Mayor Eric Adams Eric Adams, who has an
approval rating of not and whose city leadership divides evenly
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now into his appointees who have resigned, some under indictment
at his appointees who have not yet resigned. Dolan has
given the Eric Adams Legal Defense Fund five grand, and
another Dolan at the same address named Aiden, who appears
to be his son, has given another five grand, so
they have James Dolan, on the one hand tied to
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the disastrous, messianic mayor of New York and on the
other tied to the disastrous, psychotic presidential candidate of the
Republican Nazi Party. Let's go Rangers, but our winners David
Zaslav and Evon Musk. David Zaslav, Warner Bros. Discovery chieftain,
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the man who has run CNN into the ground to
the point where Lachlan Cartwright has reported now that they
couldn't afford raises for all their quote stars un quote.
The best anybody's getting is the same. They're already being
paid in new contracts, and they may let Chris Wallace go.
You know how old Chris Wallace is. He's two hundred
and six US more. Though, Oliver Darcy reports in his
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newsletter that David Zaslab is courting Elon Musk, Yes, Daddy
Warbucks himself Elon Musk, As Darcy notes in his newsletter's
status in March, Musky wrote, as mind blowingly tragic as
this sounds, some poor suckers still believe CNN. Yet Darcy
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scoops that when Musk and Zazlab were seen on the
telecast of Tennis's US Open last month, sitting next to
each other, it was actually just part two, again quoting Darcy.
Earlier in the summer, Zaslab had hosted Musk at his
ocean side estate off Lily Pond Lane in East Hampton.
People familiar with the matter told me Musk was traveling
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in the Haptins for a Michael Milken event and Zazlab
urged him to drop by regardless, Zaslav's relationship with Musk
extends beyond the occasional meetup. When not spending time together
in person, the two have been regularly exchanged For a second,
I thought it was FaceTime. In New Zealand, Lizzig and
an RFK Junior, thank God, have been regularly exchanging text messages.
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One of the people familiar with their relationship told me
they have a relationship. What kind of a relationship. No, don't, don't,
don't tell me. Oliver Darcy seems to think courting Musk
is just a mistake by Zaslav, And I mean that's
a valid thought. Zaslav makes mistakes by the car load lot.
But I think mister Darcy may be missing the real
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purpose here. Musk was willing to throw away billions to
buy Twitter, just to be the king of Dung Mountain
and turn the place into a huge contribution in kind
to the Trump campaign. If Musk is that dumb or
that stoned, why wouldn't he be dumb enough and stoned
enough to buy CNN from Zaslav. Can you imagine CNN
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owned by Elon Musk, the new lineup CNN Mornings with
the team of Elon Musk, Elon Musk and Elon Musk,
then the Midday Musk, then a phone in show called
Musk Hotel I like that one, Anderson Cooper Tonight with
Elon Musk, and of course the Situation Room with Wolf
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Flitzer with Elon Musk, And of course every time you
click over to CNN, your TV would explode. David, I
swear I don't look for these disasters. They choose me
Zaslab and Elon. I know we could close CNN, Musk CTV.
You get it must only with a K, you get
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it K instead of T. I'm funny. I'm funny. You
will laugh now K for ketamine, No, forget that part,
K for Musk Musk CTV, laugh now Musk two days
worst person and no wa he the number one story
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on the countdown on my favorite topic, me and things
I promised not to tell. And here we go again,
Rupert Murdoch's quote news outlets unquote shooting themselves in the
groin yet again while they were aiming at me. A
little timeline is required on this one. April eighteen sixty five.
Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States, was assassinated May
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twenty twenty, maybe earlier. May twenty twenty was the earliest
I remembered or found. Trump started claiming he had been
treated far worse than Abraham Lincoln had. March sixteenth, twenty
twenty four. Trump said it again. Then Biden Harris Headquarters
tweets the clip, adding Trump says he's been treated worse
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than Abraham Lincoln, who was assassinated also March sixteenth, twenty
twenty four. I retweeted that, adding there's always the hope.
March eighteenth, twenty twenty four, Fox News publishes a story
first headlined Keith Olderman appears to hope for Trump assassination,
but the headline was then changed to Keith Olderman's sparks
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outrage by hinting at trump assassination with a blue stripe
over my face reading Blue Blood Bath, meaning on some
level I am the same as Trump to the New
York Post and the Fox News and all the rest
of Murdoch's outlets. While I was tempted to answer this
by saying I was just referring to the auto industry,
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in reality, obviously I was and am hoping that Trump
will be right, and that he will be treated worse
than Abraham Lincoln, something worse than assassination, which would be
that Trump is convicted and dies in prison. I don't
know how many times I have said this, maybe more
than Trump's ludicrous charge that he's been treated worse than Lincoln.
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I may have actually said it more than he has
said that. I think I first said I hope he
dies in prison. I expect he dies in prison in
twenty sixteen. This is because I hope he dies in prison.
But of course the point of this is Murdoch and
Fox and especially the New York Post have been doing
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this to me since about nineteen ninety six, always always
getting it wrong, ever since I caught the Post in
a lie that year about a couple of hockey players
that it claimed had been thrown out of a New
York City bar for knocking over tables to the horror
of customers, when in fact I was with them, and
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they left the place in their own form of horror
because as one of them, Eric Lindross, stood up, he
almost knocked over the chair he was sitting in. He
said to the other, John Leclair, I think I've had enough.
We got to go home, Johnny, and they politely left,
but not before asking if I needed a lift. In
two thousand and one, the Post slammed me because I
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attended a New York Mets game while wearing cargo shorts.
A few years later, the Post showed a picture somebody
had snapped of me leaning against one of the gates
of Central Park here in New York and said I
was alone and depressed. Actually, I was alone and early
to my dental appointment across the street, and I was
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trying to talk myself into actually going into my doctor's office.
There was a brief interruption in the year during the
two and a half years or so that I worked
for Murdoch in Sports, a brief interruption in these constantly
hilarious stories before Murdoch personally fired me after I had
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reported with his office's full approval in advance that he
was working behind the scenes to sell the Los Angeles
Dodgers baseball team, which he was. Murdoch later boasted about
firing me, but he didn't say that. He didn't boast
about it until after he had sold the La Dodgers
baseball team. The origin of the post's quarter century of
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badly aimed shots at me stems from that firing. When
Murdoch fired me, his minions did it slowly in stages
over the course of a couple of days, in hopes
that they could get me angry and bait me into
attacking Fox and News Corp. In the newspapers, so that
then they could fire me for cause that way they
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wouldn't owe me the rest of the money on my
contract instead. As I've mentioned here before, given the choice
between waiting eight months to insult someone and getting a
lot of money, or getting no money and yelling at
them right now, I'll always wait the eight months. I
remained quiet for eight lovely months, and Rupert had to
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pay me one one hundred thousand dollars a month to
do that best job I ever had. So whenever this
happens and somebody says, why don't you sue Murdoch Go,
sue News Corps, sue the New York Post. I always say,
what kind of money could I get from them that
could hurt them more than that eight hundred thousand dollars
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back in two thousand and one. Also, most of the
stuff they do is so hilariously wrong, like the worse
than Lincoln story, that it's transparently desperate. But twice they
threatened me with stories that I had to take some
action about. Once they completely made one up, and once
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they ran a story even though the FBI and the
Department of Homeland Security specifically asked them not to run it.
The obligatory reminder before I tell you those two stories,
you should never believe any source story you read in
The New York Post or indeed on any mets me
outlet owned by the Murdochs. Like Fox, they occasionally report
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real things, but just as often they make stuff up.
Not exaggerate or get slightly wrong or twist, but utterly fabricate.
On April eleventh, two thousand and five, the New York
Post was to run exactly the kind of story I'm
talking about, only under threat of multiple lawsuits did they
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actually spike it. I hadn't told this story before, but
I was reminded of it. I think going through the
mechanics of it will illustrate just how evil an organization
News Corp. Actually Is and more importantly, how unreliable it
is as a source of news. As a New York
Post Page six gossip story, this one, though, had everything.
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It attacked MSNBC. It had quotes from informed sources, and
even at one point it had a witness. Now the
witness disappeared during the evolution of this story, but at
one point it had a witness. It had somebody prominent
insulting Peter Jennings, the newscaster, right after he had revealed
he had lung cancer, and it was constructed in such
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a way that if I did not comment on it,
they could print the story, then come back the next day,
rehash it and add that I was still refusing to
comment on it. But there was one overriding problem. It
was a complete fabrication, and thus it was full of
events that didn't happen and people who did not exist.
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New York Post Page six contacted MSNBC's then media relations guy,
Jeremy Gaines on Thursday, April seventh, two thousand and five,
with the following story. Keith Olderman, a quote frequent critic
of President Bush, had refused to anchor the coverage of
the death of Pope John Paul the Second, pretended to
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be ill and called in sick instead. There was, as
I suggested earlier, a major problem here. I had anchored
the coverage of the death of Pope John Paul the Second.
I had been anchoring the primetime coverage four hours each weeknight,
day after day, leading up to the potiffs passing. There
were viewers who had seen me. There were studio staffers.
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Carl Bernstein was there. He was the inn studio papal expert.
He was on the air with me every night for
like six nights in a row. There were video tapes.
Joe Torre, then the manager of the New York Yankees,
called me to compliment me on my reverential coverage of
the Pope's illness. That did not stop. The New York
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Post in the first version that page six told us
it was going to print their unnamed source had been
on board an Amtrak Acella train going from Washington, DC
to New York, sitting near my agent. As my agent
talked to somebody on a cell phone. This is apparently
a very favorite construction when the New York Post wants
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to make up a story about somebody their witness said.
My agent complained that I had had a quote meltdown
after quote calling in sick rather than anchoring the papal coverage,
which I anchored, but there was more quote. Alderman, a
frequent critic of the president's policies, said it was better
in sports. They quoted my agent quoting me into the phone.
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I'll be dealing with this all day now. Apart from
the fact that I had anchored the coverage, they said
I had not anchored. There was another major flaw in
this story. My agent was not on a train from
Washington to New York on the day in question, or
the week in question, or the month, or in fact,
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the year in question. My agent told me she thought
she had once been on a train from Washington to
New York in the year nineteen sixty seven. My agent
at that time lived a top Mount Shasta in California,
and so seldom left there that when she once drove
to town to get the mail, I asked her for
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the details of her trip because I jokingly suggested to
her we should lead the newscast with it. So the
next day, Friday, April eighth, two thousand and five, New
York Post Page six came back with a different version
of this same story. They had misheard their source. Of course,
it wasn't my agent on the train from DC to
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New York. It was a woman who worked for my agent,
a woman named Susan. A woman named Susan whom I had,
they would report, already phoned three times that morning, and
I was to meet her urgently at the boat House
in Central Park, presumably because meeting her in the middle
of Penn Station when she got off that train would
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have been a little too public. MSNBC's Jeremy Gaines responded
again with some irrefutable refutations. Nobody named Susan worked for
my agent. In fact, nobody at all worked for my agent.
She was independent. She had a working relationship with a
small agency in Los Angeles, and basically they covered her
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phone calls when she was on vacation, which she almost
never was, because she never left the top of Mount
effing Shasta. We called that agency and they confirmed that
not only did they not have anybody working for them
named Susan, but nobody from that agency was even on
the East Coast or had been so far that entire year.
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At this point I called the television columnist of the
New York Post and off the record, explained to him
that I was kind of furious, and this time I
was actually going to sue, but that NBC was far
angrier than I was, and that they were going to
sue as well, and sue the editor of page six. Personally,
I calmly went through the facts of this. This guy,
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the TV guy, had a conscience, he sighed. He said
he got those kind of calls more often than I
would believe. And I said, no, I believe it. And
he said he would go to the editor of page
six and explained somebody was lying to him, the editor,
and he was going to get himself sued into bankruptcy
over a really obviously untrue and completely disproved story. Okay,
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So now a couple hours later, New York Post Page
six calls again demanding a comment from me on the
third different version of their exhaustive papals scoop. No. The
woman their witness heard, who they first said was my agent,
then said she had gotten it wrong. It was a
woman named Susan who worked for my agent. She had
now become a woman who worked for my agent, whose
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name the witness never heard. But she was talking to
somebody else named Susan. And there was an additional quote
now thrown in, I'll be dealing this all day now,
had morphed into I'll be dealing with this all day now.
The same week Peter Jennings makes his announcement about having
lung cancer, this idiot, a frequent critic of President Bush,
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is sitting around in his pajamas calling me about this.
I'll spare you how I know this was not true.
It has something to do with the fact that I
don't wear pajamas. Years later, a former gossip reporter in
Murdoch's employ explained to me that his celebrity and gossip
people are taught never to back down from a confrontation,
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and that if the subject of one of their hit
jobs fires back or tries to refute, or especially threatens
legal action, to keep making the story worse and worse
for them. And in the first decade of this century, anyway,
you were supposed to try to work in a defense
of George W. Bush but there's also what she said.
They called an emergency exit. If there is no question
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that the story is nonsensical, if the basic spine of
the story does not line up with provable facts, just
abandon it. Abandon it. Don't tell the subject of your
attack that you are abandoning it. Just don't make any
more phone calls, don't send it any more emails about it.
Just vanish. Just disappear the story, and then send the
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name of the subject of the story that you've just punted.
Send it around to all the other Murdoch operations to
see if they can come up with any dirt on
the subject, to punish them for fighting back against Rupert
Murdoch's lies. So they abandoned the story, and it took
the New York Post a year and a half to
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get me back, and to get back the Department of
Homeland Security and the FBI. On September twenty six, two
thousand and six, I opened an envelope bearing a California
postmark at my home in New York. I shouldn't have
done it, but bluntly, I'll confess to this, I thought
it was some baseball cards I had bought off eBay
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Well it wasn't. The envelope contained a sticky substance looked
like draino mixed with talcum powder, and it fell out,
and accompanying notes said it was anthrax. Now I and
other Liberals would get a taste of our own medicine.
Even reading those chilling words and having covered the actual
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anthrax letters terrorist attacks of two thousand and one when
I was with CNN, I knew it was an anthrax.
The guy who supposedly sent the actual anthrax in two
thousand and one was an expert in the field, and
even he masshandled the stuff so badly that supposedly he
gave himself anthrax and died of it. On the other hand,
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I know the odds were impossible, but what if I
was wrong. My apartment building was filled with little old
ladies who had lived there since Roosevelt was president. I
only assumed that meant Franklin, not Theodore. The odds were.
I don't know one in a billion that it was anthrax.
But who was I to dismiss this one in a
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billion chance that these little old ladies were going to
get anthrax? Who was I to make that call? So
instead I made a call. I called the FBI. Well,
it was quite an evening. The cops showed up, the
FBI showed up. They said, of course it's not anthrax,
but we have to act like it is. Welcome to
our new world. The hazmat squad came in. They set
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up a command post in the building. They swept my
apartment and they said, okay, now you have to go
to the emergency room for tests. And I said, it's
not anthrax. You just said so. And they said, if
we have to do this, you have to do this too.
I laughed. Plus, if you don't, we can arrest you
as a threat to public health, and we can make
you go to the hospital. So out I went into
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an ambulance dressed in a hazmat suit one size too
small that really cut in the groin. I spent the
night getting checked out. The FBI then called and said,
it's like it's like draino with ivory soap flakes. But
they also said there had been other letters that had
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arrived that night and the night before, sent to people
like the chairman of CBS and David Letterman's office, and
Nancy Pelosi and some poor guy who happened to have
the name John Stewart, who was not the John Stuart.
And they couldn't make me do this, but it would
really help if I did not report what happened on
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my TV show that night, just for the one day,
do it tomorrow, because they had a lead on the
guy who had sent all these letters and they didn't
want to scare them off. And I said, sure, I'm
a patriot. The next day, while we were still observing
the embargo on the story, my story, planning to run
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it at eight o'clock at night, New York Post page
six led with a picture of me with the headline
powder Puff spooks Keith and making sure to identify me
as quote, a frequent critic of President Bush's policies. The
New York Post mocked me for not just assuming it
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was fake antrax and ignoring it, and claimed I insisted
the cops should take me to the hospital. Quote whether
they gave him a lollipop on the way out isn't known.
By the way, one of the actual anthrax letters in
two thousand and one, one of the letters with actual
anthrax in it that got some people sick and killed
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a little old lady, had been mailed to the New
York post and one of their staffers had contracted anthrax,
and still this was their attitude towards anthrax threats. Anyway,
as it turned out, there was a guy in California
sending out these threatening letters, each with fake antras, to
about a dozen people. He sent me four of them. Ultimately,
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I soon knew the FBI guys by their first names.
I pointed out to FBI Doug that the last envelope
I received had a bar code on it. Maybe they
could track the guy that way, and he said, oh,
you're right, And the next time I knew the FBI
had just videotaped the suspect mailing yet another letter to me,
the fifth from his home in Woodland Hills, California, and
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I swear to god he actually lived in his mother's
basement at age thirty seven or something. And FBI Doug said,
do we have your permission to pull a letter out
of the mailbox and open it? I said sure, And
the next thing I knew the guy was sentenced to
prison for like eighteen months, but not before FBI Doug said,
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by the way, that barcode, you noticed it. It connected
to the post office here, and that's where we found
his address, and we also found the fact that he
purchased a postal money order for fifteen dollars made out
to the Catherine Harris for Florida Senate campaign, if you
remember her from Gore V. Bush and his online history.
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We looked that all up. It's all about how she
Catherine Harris and some woman Na Laura something or another.
They are the most beautiful women in history. And I said, Laura,
Laura Ingram, and FBI Doug said, yeah, that's it, Laura Ingraham.
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And if that isn't ten years of my life in
one sentence, courtesy of the New York effing Post, I
don't know what is. I've done all the damage I
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can do here. Thank you for listening. We're now back
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the one three hundred and eighty first day since convicted
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