NOEM, TRUMP, AND MAGA'S BELIEF THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO KILL - 5.7.24 - Countdown with Keith Olbermann

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Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. The
story of the reaction to Justice meyr Sean's stark warning

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to Trump that he may put him in jail the
next time he violates the gag order, and the story
of the defense of and acceptance of Christy Nome inside
the Trump cult for having murdered her dog and threatening
President Biden's dog. Those are actually the same story. The
story is the point is killing. They are about one

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thing at their core. Gnome and Trump and Maga and
Trump's Supreme Court justices and his slaves inside the House
and the Senate believe they have a right to kill. Today,
they have that right to kill their dogs. Tomorrow it's

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your dog. Then it's the judge, the day after that,
it's all the immigrants. Finally, it will be anything and anybody.
Do not mistake them, Do not mistake what this is
really about. Do not forget that even as chilling a
phrase as political violence is itself just a euphemism. Political

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violence is murder, individual murder, mass murder, or if the
rest of us are lucky, just attempted murder or threatened murder.
Every Trump attack, on every witness, on every judge, on
every prosecutor, on every opponent, on every institution, every stochastic

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call to end this, every reference to bedlam, every meme
of the President of the United States bound and gagged,
every Tim Scott refusing to honor the outcome of an election,
every reference to patriots and deep states and rigged elections,
and I am your retribution. They all have the unspoken
second half to them. Those who try to stop us

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will do what we say, or we will kill them.
One third of Trump supporters who had heard about Gnome
killing her dog told a yuga of poll that it
was acceptable. Twenty nine percent weren't sure, so the total

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of Trump voters who would not criticize Gnome murdering a
puppy was six out of ten. Nationwide, fifteen percent of
Americans thought it was acceptable. Four percent of Biden voters
thought it was acceptable. Six out of ten Trump cultists
support Christy Nomes shooting her dog in the face or

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are not sure they would criticize her for it, and
she has now tripled down on doing this. Politico reports
that originally she included her boast about killing her puppy
in her first book, which was published two years ago.
But the editors talked her out of it. Yesterday she
went on CBS again. She lied on CBS Sunday morning,

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so naturally they put her back on CBS Monday morning.
Now she's claimed she was a dog trainer, so she
knew what she was doing, and she intimated that she
would kill Joe Biden's dog commander. And she lied about
meeting Kim Jong un again, and coyly lied that she
was taking the story out of the book because of
some kind of security concern, when clearly it was just

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the fact that she could not tell the difference between
Kim Jong un and Molly Jong Fast And by the way,
the Kim jong Un lie is three dimensional. Lying Nome says, quote,
I should not have put that anecdote in the book unquote,
but also she says she didn't know it was in
the book quote when I became aware of that, we
changed the content, but also confirms it is in the

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audio book, which she herself narrated, meaning when she became
aware it was in the book, even though she shouldn't
have put it in the book, she did not take
it out of the book. And I'll stop here because
there are a lot of gravel pits she could drag
me into. There are no admissions of mistakes or lies,

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or stupidity, or, in Christy Noam's case, subhuman sadism towards animals.
She wanted to tell this story. They stopped her from
telling the story two years ago. She wanted to put
this into Trump's mind and to do the minds such
as they are of Trump's supporters. She wants this thought.

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Christy Nome is willing to kill. And back to Trump
and Justice Merschawn's warning of jail time, which is a
little less strong than being reported, Mershawn actually caveated it.
He wrote, this court cannot find beyond a reasonable doubt
that defendants statements referenced in Exhibits E and G were

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not protected speech made in response to political attacks by
Michael Cohen. Quote. So when Trump cannot stop himself next time,
my over under is tomorrow, by the way, because it's
the day off. Each word of what he writes or
posts or says, each word will be parsed and litigated literally,

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rather than them simply sending a cop car over to
Trump Tower to drag him off. And yes, that photo
of him in court where it looks like he's farting,
and there are two officers behind him, and the one
on the left is wearing a mask like she knew
it was coming. It's legit. Also, Trump says he'll happily
go to jail. Then is even more the gag order?

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Uh huh? Where I can't. Basically I have to watch
every word. I tell you people you're watching watching A
simple question. I'd like to give it, but I can't
talk about. No, you can't talk at all. You're not
talking now a gag order and say you'll go to
jail if you violate it. You bet, And frankly, you
know what. Our constitution is much more important than jail

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and studying it close. I'll do that sacrifice. Ay day, boyo,
if you will go to jail, I will carry you
there on my back. With Trump's silence for the moment,
others have taken up the stochastic terrorism. Trump has had
to set down Congressman Clay Higgins, the slurring ghost bus

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clown who has staggered in shame in and out of
four different Louisiana police departments. Hey, judge ass hat, he
posted over a picture of justice Jan Marshawn, we are
in contempt of your court. We find your court abhorrent.
You and your entire anti American elitist ilk are repulsive

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to patriot Americans. Signed we the people, anti American elitist
ilk Patriot Americans. These are more euphemisms. Merschaan was born
in the Nation of Columbia. He grew up in New York.
He is the first member of his family to go
to college at Baruch and then at Hofstra Law. He

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is an American success story. Higgins, who washed out of
Louisiana State, is an American failure story. Therefore, Higgins's response,
like Trump's, is a threat of violence, violence coded in
plausible deniability. The irony in this, of course, is that
in the trial so far, Trump has had absolutely no

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plausible deniability. He has left a trail a mile wide.
His former company comptroller, Jeffrey mcconne now testifies that Trump
directed him to pay a Michael Cohen a bonus, not
just legal fees, as Trump claimed, as has been central
to his defense. There was even a document instructing payments
to Cohen's shell company of one hundred and thirty thousand

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and thirty five dollars exactly how much Stormy Daniels ended
up with with Alan Weiselberg's handwritten notation on it that
that one hundred and thirty thousand and thirty five dollars
was specifically four Stormy Daniels. Trump is incredibly guilty, so

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guilty that any other defendant would be trying to cut
a deal. He won't. You can't because this is life
and death for him. This is why he is hallucinating
that there are thousands of Trump protesters out there being
held at bay by New York cops just blocks away.
You will recall that on April twenty second, he wrote

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that his imaginary hordes should be quote allowed to protest
at the front steps of courthouses all over the country,
rally behind MAGA, save our country. The only thing you
have to fear is fear itself. It is the rhetoric
of January sixth all over again. And if he escalates
to actually urging them to attack the courthouse, don't be surprised.

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He's getting desperate. And that is after all, the subtext
to what he is saying anyway, and what Clay Higgins
is saying, and what Christine Nome is saying and has done.
Do not mistake what we are dealing with do not
mistake want in this equation Christine Nome represents, and more importantly,

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do not mistake what you and I represent. And then
there is what the New York Times represents right now
that is nothing maybe wordle complete dereliction of duty by

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the New York Times. Quote. When you are a Democrat,
Trump said at a fundraiser at Merrik Crapshack last Saturday,
you start off essentially at forty percent of the vote
because you have civil service, you have the unions, and
you have welfare. They get welfare to vote, and then
they cheat on top of that, they cheat, he said

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of Biden and the Democrats, quoting Trump again, these people
are running a gestapo administration. Unquote, Mister Trump told donors
who attended the event at marri Lago, his private club
in Palm Beach, Florida, according to an audio recording obtained
by The New York Times unquote an audio recording obtained

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by the New York Times. Where is this recording? Why
has this recording not been made public by The New
York Times. Mother Jones magazine made public the recording of
min Romney saying of Democratic voters in essence the same thing,
only pegging the percentage higher. There are forty seven percent

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who are with Obama, who are dependent upon government. They
will vote for this president no matter what. That tape
from twenty twelve that was made public and in retrospect,
the day it was made public September seventeenth, twenty twelve,
that was the last day Mitt Romney had any chance
of being elected president. And the Free Beacon did not
hesitate to publish a secret recording of Hillary Clinton distancing

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herself from the progressive left. In twenty sixteen, the Obama
Reverend Right recordings, they were published, The Obama Budget Negotiation's
secret tape put on the air by CBS News, The
cell phone video of Obama about clinging to guns or
religion published by the Huffington Post. Where is the audio

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recording of Trump a recording you clearly state, you boast
that you have up to New York Times. Where is
the audio of Trump himself saying Democrats use welfare to
buy forty percent of the vote. They get welfare to vote,

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and then they cheat on top of that, when we
all know what welfare is a euphemism for among the
racist Republicans. Where is that recording and why have you
chosen not to release it? If you are having any
doubts about the doubts about the New York Times. The

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paper is now providing new evidence every third day or
so that its leaders have lost all contact with reality,
and they think still that this is just another election.
And worse yet, their leaders think they are being attacked

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for being even handed, when in fact they are being
attacked for leaning over so far backwards to not appear
pro democratic that they have fallen flat on their faces.
And the newest face plant is from editor in chief
Joe Khan. Ben Smith of Semaphore News interviewed him, and

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as Cohn talked and as Smith published, neither seemed to
realize that between them they were garrotting the times credibility.
Smith says he asked con quote Dan Pfeiffer, who used
to work for Barack Obama, recently wrote to the Times,
they do not see their job as saving democracy or
stopping an authoritarian from taking power. Why don't you see

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your job as we've got to stop Trump? What about
your job doesn't let you think that way? Joe Cohn
then destroyed not only himself but his own paper. Good
Media is the fourth Estate it's another pillar of democracy.
One of the absolute necessities of democracy is having a
free and fair and open election where people can compete

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for votes. And the role of the news media in
that environment is not to skew your coverage towards one
candidate or the other, but just to provide very good,
hard hitting, well rounded coverage of both candidates. If I'm right,
that's exactly what CON's predecessor said during the Lincoln McClellan

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election of eighteen sixty four. His predecessor, you know, when
the founder of The Times, Henry Raymond, was also chairman
of the Republican Party, in one of Abraham Lincoln's mentors,
we've never taken any sides of oh yeah, Lincoln. Wait,
this gets worse, Joe Con again, to say that the
threats of democracy are so great that the media is

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going to abandon its central role as a source of
impartial information to help people vote. That's essentially saying that
the news media should become a propaganda arm for a
single candidate because we prefer that candidate's agenda. It's our
job to cover the full range of issues that people

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have at the moment. Democracy is one of them, but
it's not the top one. Immigration happens to be the top,
and the economy and inflation is the second. Should we
stop covering those things because they're favorable to Trump? Again?
The editor in chief of The New York Times lives

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in a world dictated by Fox News and populated entirely
by straw men, who said, don't cover any of that,
who said, become a propaganda army. We're asking why you've
tried to equate Biden's age with you know, Trump's insanity

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and indictments and desire to become a dictator. Quote. There
are people out there in the world who may decide,
based on their democratic rights, to elect Donald Trump as president.
It is not the job of the news media to
prevent that from happening. Unquote, Okay, Sarah sirah right, Joe
con I mean, why should you worry about what happens

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if an increasingly unstable, revenge driven psychopath assumes the full
power of the American state. It's not like you guys
live in America on Sunday, as if they had sat
around for a week trying to figure out how to
make this worse. CON's paper published a piece by Peter

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Baker headlined gallows humor and talk of escape. Trump's possible
return Rattle's capital. At Washington dinner parties, dark jokes abound
about where to go into exile if the former president
reclaims the White House. It's not bad enough that The
Times is joking around about the country teetering on a

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precipice like the one Germany found itself in in nineteen
thirty two. But starting in paragraph twelve of this jovial
piece by that well known wit Peter Baker, it switched
the both sides machine on full blast. There are quotes
in there from a trumpist who explained that all of
this was just Trump derangement syndrome. And rejoice that quote.

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The chattering class is freaking out. The Times is on
quite a role as it calmly ignores the fact that
Trump would try to shut it down or take over
the publishing of it, or decide what goes in and
what can't go in anymore, or jail Joe con or

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kill the publisher. Ag Sealzberger. I mean, what, evs least
we have our journalistic principles here in the concentration camp.
Not enough. Just put these other two stories together. Those
evil protesting students at Columbia. Did you know they refused

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to talk to conservative shill Peggy Noonan when she went
up there to write a column. So a key writer
from the New York Times defended Peggy Noonan. And the
publisher of the Times is still trying to rationalize his
vendetta against President Biden by insisting there is no vendetta.
It's just punishing Biden because he won't do an interview

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with the Times. But the Times is only punishing him
on behalf of humanity, not something personal and selfish like
on behalf of the Times the publisher first, and then
we'll get to Peggy Noonon. You will remember that Politico
reported that it was ag Selzberger, who, honked off by
Biden's refusal to sit down with The Times, demanded that

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his paper begin to do stories about Biden's age. The
Times denied there was any linkage here publishing a statement
dripping with umbrage and offense publishing a statement on its website.
The statement was anonymous yay journalism, yay principles. Then last Tuesday,

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Salzburger gave an interview to The Washington Post, part of
which The Washington Post published Friday along with data showing
that at comparable stages of their first terms, Biden has
done fewer sit down interviews than his six predecessors. He's
twenty six behind George W. Bush. On the other hand,
by the time of the next inauguration, Biden will have

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moved into first place with the most informal question and
answer interviews with the media since nineteen eighty one. Right now,
he's done four hundred and twenty two more of them
than Ronald Reagan did, and four hundred and seventy two
more than Barack Obama did. But Biden has not done
one with The Times or the Washington Post. And nothing

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in this world is more self important than the Washington
Post except for the New York Time. I think this
is a norm that matters, the Times publisher told the Post,
and all our experience shows that when norms like this erode,
especially a norm as uncomfortable as the discipline of answering

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probing questions from independent journalists, they rarely return. Of course,
ag Sealzburger didn't mention which norms like this had eroded
and then vanished forever, and the postwriter Eric Wemple does
not seem to have asked him which norms he meant.
But look, if the Times and the Posts say norms

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are eroding, then god damn it, norms are eroding. If
you don't like the New York Times coverage, don't give
us an interview, Salzburger continues. But give an interview to
the Washington Post, which you have refused to sit down with,
Give an interview to the Wall Street Journal, which you
have refused to sit down with, give an interview to Reuter's,

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which you have refused to sit down with. And if
you don't like the coverage of any of those organizations,
I think that raises a broader question of whether you
just want to avoid press scrutiny unquote, because as we
all know, the press consists of just those four organizations Times, Post,

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Wall Street Journal, Reuters the edge of the universe, nothing
over there except maybe some of the dragons that live
out there in the ether. Just those four news organizations
in the whole entirety of the universe, The Times, The Post,
The Journal, and Reuters. This is especially true for today's

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voters and younger Americans in a time when, for better
or worse, the media is getting more diverse and more
diffuse by the hour, and you can do a podcast
in your apartment entirely by yourself and get a daily
audience about a third the size of a primetime show
on CNN. And presidents and politicians and their press people

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are wondering why they should use their guys' time to
put them on platforms that already cover his every move
When undecided or low info voters are to be found
on TikTok. We're listening to satellite radio, or watching late
night talk shows, or just watching viral clips as they
continue on a path to living their entire lives without

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ever consuming anything from The Times, the Post, the Journal,
and Reuters combined, and Reuters really Reuters was your fourth
best option, not even the Boston Globe Reuters. I think

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our industry should speak out about this, Sealzburger Whind. Whereupon
mister Wimple of The Post asked The Post, the Journal,
Reuters and everybody else to complain, and found none of
them were willing to. First, he said their reticence had
quote many lame justifications o'blakely. Then he complained for them,

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quoting statistics that show that of Biden's first fifty two
television interviews as president. Eighteen of them were within the
NBC Universal family, though only one of them was with
NBC Nightly News. The day that the last newspaper is printed,
somebody working for it will insist that it's just a

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phase and newspapers will be back soon. Because the only
thing that has not been damaged in the swarm of
media earthquakes of the last three decades and more is
the ego inside the boardrooms of the big newspapers and
inside NBC Nightly News headquarters, by the way, because what's
unspoken here is the Times is news, and the Washington

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Post is news, and the Wall Street Journal is news,
and everybody else is not news. Maybe NBC Nightly News
is news. But they only got one of Biden's eighteen
NBC interviews. You know what's not news That Today's show's
not news. They got six interviews. Why did they get
six interviews? They're not news. Newspapers have never gotten over

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the idea that anybody else was legit, at least not
half as legit as they are. Newspapers managed to keep
news off radio for the first decade or so of radio.
Then they managed to limit how much news the networks
in the stations could carry That lasted till nearly World

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War Two. They tried to monopolize physical space at conventions,
at inaugurations and ballparks. Hell the Baseball Writers Association of America,
which decides all the most valuable players and the other awards,
and most of the Hall of famers, they did not
even admit writers from websites until two thousand and seven,
and still they have never had a radio or television

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broadcaster in their ranks. Radio, according to the newspapers, was
just a phase. All news radio that certainly was just
a phase. Television was just a phase. Cable was just
a phase. All news cable was just a phase. The
Internet was just a phase. If you haven't given The
New York Times a one on one, you're not really president,

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are you. That's the norm that matters at all. Experience
shows that when norms like that he rode, something bad
will happen. The publisher of the New York Times knows
this because he read it in The New York Times.
I'm guessing. Look, if there is anything else the last

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decade in this country has taught us, it is that
our news media has failed utterly, and the failure has
been led by the New York Times, the Washington Post,
the Wall Street Journal, and writers. Some of that has
been external, driven by market forces, but much of it
has been because a lot of newspaper journalism, especially but

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generally news media, a lot of it just plain sucks,
and it's unimaginative, and it has no ability to cover
something that has never covered before. And it is populated
by people who are so thin skinned that when an
effort is made by one group of politicians to work
the refs, they the newspapers especially, they decide that everything

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now has to be presented as both sides is drivel
to minimize the real threat in this country, reporters and
editors getting nasty phone calls and emails and undamaged. Through
all of this is the newspaper's conviction, their bone marrow
deep confidence that you must talk to them, maybe OK,

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maybe not only them, but them first, and when there
is a choice of them and nobody else. And by
the way, failure to talk to them is why journalism
is in trouble. Not corporate greed, nor bad editors, nor
runaway entitlement and self martyrdom among publishers, all news industry

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is the way it is today because Joe Biden has
not done a sit down interview with Reuters. And that's
where those protests at Columbia and Peggy Noonan fold into this.
Peggy Noonan, the former Reagan speechwriter who has somehow been
mistaken for a journalist these last forty years, wrote this

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for The Wall Street Journal. Quote. I was on a
bench taking notes as a group of young women, all
in sunglasses masks walked by friends. Please come say hello
and tell me what you think. I called. They marched past,
not making eye contact save one, a beautiful girl of

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about twenty. I'm not trained, she said, which is what
they're instructed to say to corporate media representatives who will
twist your words. I'm barely trained. You're safe, I called,
And she laughed and half halted, but her friends gave

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her a look and she conformed unquote. I'll skip for
the most part the fact that right in that one paragraph,
Peggy Noonan revealed that she actually admitted to lying to
that twenty year old woman by claiming her working as
a writer for CBS Radio w EEI in Boston, three

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years at the White House, then thirty eight years at ABCC,
and an NBC in the Wall Street Journal. The editorial
page of the Wall Street Journal, no less that anybody
with a resume that skinny is quote barely trained. I'm
not trained. I've just been doing this for six times
your lifetime. My interest in this quote is that it
was then screenshotted and tweeted out by Peter Baker of

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the New York Times. When we last saw mister Baker,
he was writing an end of the world apocalyptic story
about where everybody was gonna move to if Trump became president,
while writing everything he possibly write to make sure that
Trump becomes president. And before that, mister Baker was quoted

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in a story countering the idea that publisher Sealzburger in
The Times were really avenging themselves against Biden because he
had had the nerve to not talk to them. I've
never heard Ag say anything like that, and can't imagine
he ever would. So Baker screenshots this noonan quote which
the Columbia protest are wrong because they wouldn't give her

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a quote, and they are conforming, and they are obviously
slandering those like herself who are falsely being accused of
being corporate media word twisters. Just because they happen to
work for Rupert Murdoch and as always, that's why Peggy
didn't get the story. And Baker, who insists his boss

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would never wield payback against a president for not explaining
his cause or engaging Times journalists. Baker adds his own
tut tusk and his own quote, when protests are not
actually about explaining your cause or trying to engage journalists
who are there to listen un quote, I will say

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something now that will never ever ever sink into the
skulls of Peter Baker or Peggy Noonan or the New
York Times or the Wall Street Journal were large swaths
of television news or lots of podcasters wait till you
hear what David Pluff has planned for a podcast. But

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let me say this to all of them. A protest
is not staged just so that Peggy Noonan can get
quotes for a column. A president does not enact policy
just so that The Times can ask him about it

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in a one on one with him. A White House
media strategy does not just exist so the Post can
grill him for two hours in a ritual that has
almost no value to the White House. If ever, it did,
and a presidential election in which one guy is going
to try to get rid of elections is not just

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about testing the Times to see if it can be balanced.
And news papers that continued to behave as if this
is nineteen fifty three and nothing happens until you read
about it in their pages. They are the primary reason
that when a nation turned to them for analysis and

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reality and truth in these unprecedented times when all the
other guard rails failed. Instead of giving them answers, the
papers ask things like is Biden's age now a bigger
problem than Trump's indictments? The Times asks questions like that,

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rather than answering questions like where's that Trump forty percent
recording that you've been suppressing. Oh, by the way, you
will still hear otherwise, but it's now official, even according
to the dullest Beltway insiders known to man the Hill.

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You know who's ahead in the polls, Biden, The Hill
and Decision Desk HQ poll of polls at six hundred
and eighty five different polls, Biden forty five, Trump forty
four point nine. Trump still up in Michigan, Pennsylvania, in Wisconsin,
but you sunk my narrative. Also of interest here, good evening,

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and welcome to the end of your career. Obama's two
thousand and eight campaign manager is starting that podcast Everybody Wants,
the one in which his co host is I can't,
I can't tease this. I have to tell you, Kelly
and Conway. I wouldn't listen to Kelly and Conway with

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your ears. And this is the week of the seventieth
anniversary celebrations of Roger Banister becoming the first man to
break the four minute mile barrier. Except he wasn't. It's
all a lie. That's next. This is Countdown. This is Countdown,

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with Keith Alberman still ahead of us on this edition

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of Countdown. It is one of the most famous events
in sports history, the unforgettable moment when something impossible happened,
as impactful a positive event as anything else that occurred
short of War ending in the whole of the twentieth century.
And the story that you know about it is pure bullshit.

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Roger Banister was not the first man to run a
four minute mile seventy years ago this week. There is,
in fact, every chance that the first man to run
a four minute mile did it a thousand years ago
I had in things I promised not to tell mashed
up with the sports cast. But first, as ever, there

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are still more new idiots to talk about. The daily
roundup of the miss Grants, morons and Dunning Kruger effects
specimens who constitute today's worst persons in the world in
less than four minutes, the bronze Worser. Speaking of sports,
the Detroit Tigers baseball team. It was their turn to
unveil those new City Connect uniforms, and I guess the

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shirts say Motor City on them. Okay, except in the
font from the original Star Trek MotorCity Star Trek. Anyway,
the caps have Detroit on them, like the whole word Detroit,
like a cap you would buy at the Detroit Airport

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with a little plastic snap on the back. But the
reason that the Tigers make the list is not the uniform.
Somebody will buy it, That's the whole point. The email
the team sent out to fans yesterday hyping the new
City Connect uniforms headlined Tiger's City Connect is going and
then it's got a zero, a hyphen and sixty. Now,

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somebody thought that phrase would read as if it meant
zero to sixty as in miles per hour zero to sixty,
somebody who has never had anything to do with baseball
before or any other organized team sport, because when a
baseball fan sees zero dash sixty, it just reads Tigers
Connect is going oh and sixty, as in the sports

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way of describing the team's one lost record, oh and
sixty is zero wins and sixty losses, and putting it
that way means that when they wear the City Connect uniforms,
the Tigers will have zero wins and sixty losses. Well,
at least they're honest about it. The writer's up worser
Congresswoman Nancy Mace. You remember Nancy May. She was Christy

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Nome before Christy Nome. Mace went on Fox quote news
unquote with Neil Cavudo, and as my grandma would have said,
she opened the umbrella or just umbrella. What Grandma meant
was code for a polite version of this expression, I
guess I don't mind that you shoved the umbrella up

(37:41):
my backside, just don't open it, shortened for propriety's sake,
to umbrella. Grandma had class Mace, not really Mace, and
the other anti semites in her Party have spent decades
blaming George sorows for everything except how quickly milk goes sour.

(38:05):
It's all anti Semitic, it's all grotesque, it's all dangerous.
But now Nancy Mace has taken it an extra step.
She has umbrellaed. She's accused Sorrows, the guy the Republicans
think is the evil Jewish trope pulling the strings behind everything.
She's accused him of trying to destroy Israel. Quote, you've

(38:29):
got Palestinian rights groups that are funded by George Soros.
Neil Cavudo, who must think he's in purgatory and being
forced to pay off his sins by doing this show
on Fox Forever, replied, there's no proof that these are
funded by George Soros. Mace then smiles stupidly and says,
will agree to disagree. I guess Nancy Mace has made

(38:52):
a fool of herself so many times that one wonders
if it's legit, if she's really that stupid, And one
wonders if she even knows that Israel. Let me tell you,
Israel is run by the Jews. Umbrella Nancy Mace, Yeah,

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George Soros is funding pro Palestinian groups, The Winner, though
the worst. David Pluff, the campaign manager for Barack Obama
in two thousand and eight and apparently still living in
two thousand and eight, look when it comes to throwing
stones about making oneself relevant again in the political world

(39:33):
via podcast I Don't Even Have Gravel. However, mister Pluff
has decided that he will be co hosting a new
podcast later this month called The Campaign Managers, in which
he and his other co host will quote look at
the race objectively and hopefully provide some context and what
the other side may be thinking that for those who

(39:55):
want to know what is really happening with the electorate,
not just each side spin, you'll find valuable and distinctive. Now,
who on the right could be that co host who
could fulfill such a rare role providing a glimpse of
objectivity and perspective while supporting Trump well, naturally, KellyAnn Conway.

(40:19):
David Pluff and Kelly Ann Conway to co host podcast
Kelly and Conway. You know, the inventor of alternative facts,
the woman who lied throughout the entirety of the Trump presidency,
the woman who made up the Bowling Green massacre story.
The woman whose daughter sued her for emancipation. The woman

(40:39):
whom the Special Council set had violated the hatch at
so many times that she should actually be fired. The
woman who punched a guy at a Trump inaugural ball.
The woman who on almost any liberals list of the
ten most hated people associated with Trump, and more importantly,
on almost any liberals list of the ten people associated
with Trump who were seen as the most dishonest. That's

(41:02):
who Pluff is co hosting a podcast. Asked with to
give you some sort of overview, I'd never mind an
overview to not lie about Trump. That's who you picked.
That was the best option. I go with Michael Flynn
ahead of Kelly and con Job, the producers of this
podcast one and I believe they're still in business, but

(41:25):
I haven't checked yet today. They must be delighted with
the reaction to this. As of late yesterday afternoon, Pluff's
tweet announcing the podcast had gotten one hundred and sixty likes,
three hundred and seventy three reposts, and twenty eight hundred comments.
And I didn't see one good one in there. Conway's
tweet got three hundred and fifty seven likes, one hundred

(41:46):
and ninety eight reposts, and eight hundred and sixty comments.
I believe I'm not too familiar with this. I believe
it's called being ratioed or ratiode or pistachioed. I'm not
what is something like that? So why on earth did
Pluff do this? I mean, this is throwing out your
public credibility in one swoop. No Christy nome, multi day

(42:08):
descent into the abyss, no long slow self immolation like
Marjorie Taylor Green. This is one minute you're popular, You're
the guy who got Obama across the finish line, and
the next minute you're Kelly Ann con Jobs token liberal.
This is my understanding of the whole situation. For the

(42:29):
last decade, it has been clear to me that the
primary source of background information, positive negative otherwise about the
Trump presidency for journalists, especially at TV Networks, was Kelly
Ann Conway. For all her public abuse of liberals and
Democrats and journalists and America, apparently she could not stop

(42:53):
dishing to journalists. Twice I was told, and once by
Katie Terr, you can't say that about Kelly Ann. She's
my go to source. This is the kind of thing
in an insulated, disastrously incestuous world like Washington, that can
seem to be not just important but decisive. While sure,

(43:14):
she's still a primary advisor to a madman our Hitler
bent on ending American democracy, but she's got two great
stories and she keeps us in the know. And imagine
the pairing Obama's campaign manager and the only one of
Trump's campaign managers who didn't go to trial. Yet those

(43:34):
morons out there will love this podcast. They really think
this way. David Pluff co host with a woman That's
Saturday Night Live presented as Penny Wise, the evil Stephen
King clown from it, co host of the campaign Managers.
Because I guess the other title so much both sides

(43:57):
is that blood will spurt out of your ears must
have already been taken two days person in the world, Now,
don't go away. Ordinarily we break here, but no, not yet.

(44:20):
This is a special edition with a special format. It's
mash Up Time, a special edition of Things I Promised
Not to Tell and Sports Central Center. Seventy years ago today,
the world was still in disbelief because the day before

(44:44):
May sixth, nineteen fifty four, saw unfold one of the
most famous events in sports history, in fact, in twentieth
century world history, and everything you may have ever heard
about it is wrong. From six zho four pm prevailing
local time in England on the early evening of Thursday

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May sixth, nineteen fifty four, continuing until the day the
man died on March third, twenty eighteen, not a day
went by, probably not an hour went by without somebody
congratulating Roger Banister on becoming or having become, or being

(45:27):
or forever being, or being immortalized by being the first
human to run a mile in four minutes or less,
the man who broke the four minute mile. Except for
one small detail, he wasn't. We cannot now comprehend what

(45:51):
a big deal this really was. Neil Armstrong, Times, Charles
Lindberg plus George Washington Maybe. The next day, The New
York Times published ten different stories about Roger Banister breaking
the four minute mile barrier, plus an editorial. An editorial
on the editorial page that asked if anybody in world

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history would ever do it again. Roger Gilbert Banister began
the Times on the front page, ran a mile in
three minutes fifty nine point four seconds, tonight to reach
one of man's hitherto unattainable goals. There's just one problem.

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Not only was Roger Banister probably not the first man
to run a mile in less than four minutes, but
there is also a lot of evidence that that record
was broken in May of seventeen to seventy by a
guy who sold fruits and vegetables from a pushcart on
the streets of London, a guy named Parrot. Sixty nine

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years later, and this is still the most famous run
in the history of the world. May sixth, nineteen fifty four,
on an ordinary spring evening at the Ifley Road Track
at Oxford University in England. Even as an unfavorable wind
worked against him, Roger Banister ran through the tape in

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three point fifty nine to four and ran directly into
not just sports history, but human history, the four minute mile,
the first human ever to run that far that fast,
like the first man on the moon, no matter how
much farther we go. But glory is his, indefinitely, forever,

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always eternal, immortal Neil Armstrong, But in shorts or there
had already been a four minute mile run in seventeen seventy,
and Banister has no more claim to immortality than do
you or I. And this is really a story about
bureaucracy supporting bureaucracy, and what the experts call recency bias,

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and a lot of racism. And the story should be
about a guy who used to sell fruits and vegetables
on the streets of London and who ran in his
spare time for money in the decade before the American Revolution.
And his name was Parrot, as in look, maby, I
know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm
looking at one right now. We begin in the pages

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of a British book dated from seventeen ninety four, which
seems to be for you Back to the future fans,
a kind of Gray's Sports Almanac. The seventeen ninety four
tome bears an amazingly modern title the Sports Magazine, and
its chronology of top sports events of recent years past

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includes for the year seventeen seventy this quote seventeen seventy
May ninth, James Parrot, a costermonger. A costermonger sold fruits
and vegetables from a push on street. James Parrott, a costuremonger,
ran the length of Old Street viz. From the Charterhouse
wall in Goswell Street to Shoreditch Church Gates, which is

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a measured mile in four minutes. Fifteen guineas to five
were betted he did not run the ground in four
minutes and a half. So that's it. I am besmirching
the immortality of Saint Roger Banister and everything you will
see in the newspapers about him over the weekend because

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of fifty one words about some guy racing against an
eighteenth century watch in the year seventeen seventy, and the
story wasn't even published until twenty four years later. Seriously, seriously,
there is nothing else to say about James Parrott. That
snippet from that book is all that researchers have ever

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found or found out about James Parrott. No obituary, no nothing,
no four minute mile, no confirmation he ever exist. Besides which,
as every modern sports fan will tell you, the athletes
of today are the great, greater, greatest of all time goats.
If the record book says nobody ran a four minute
mile until nineteen fifty four, of course the record books

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are right. Since seventeen seventy, humans have evolved, health has evolved,
training has evolved. Why in seventeen seventy you couldn't even
accurately measure a mile, let alone measure exactly four minutes. Actually,
agricultural chains, designed to resolve who owned what property and

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where international borders were, had been introduced in sixteen twenty
and have proved to be at worst only off by
around two fifths of an inch over a mile. And
if you're saying agracultural chains, you don't use agricultural chains
in sports, let me ask you this. What do they

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use in National Football League games to check whether or
not it's a first down? Okay, we're giving them the
accuracy of the agricultural change we still use today in
our pro sports. You could measure several blocks of London
in seventeen seventy and say from way back there to
right over here in front of the church, that is

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exactly a mile Govnor, But how would you time it
four minutes? Exactly? What did they use? A really good sundial? No,
that had a thing called a chronometer. The chronometer was
perfected by seventeen sixty one. You may know the chronometer
as a Swiss watch, or as you might also know

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it a rolllex So this parrot runs a mile, or
maybe he runs a mile plus two fifths of an inch,
and he is timed by several guys with rolllexes, and
they all have the same score. He did it in
exactly four minutes. If you're still not convinced, if you're

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still googling Roger Banister's descendants so they can sue this
idiot Ulderman in his podcast, let me emphasize the part
that convinced me that a man named Parrot did run
a four minute mile two months and four days after
the Boston massacre unleashed the events that would culminate in
the American Revolution. Permit me to reread that last sentence

(52:24):
about James Parrott's run from Gray's Sports almana I'm sorry,
from the Sporting magazine of seventeen ninety four. Quote, fifteen
guineas to five were betted he did not run the
ground in four minutes and a half. This guy Parrot
bet on himself and got three to one odds, and

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the five guineas wagered here that would be worth about
fifty five hundred dollars in today's money, meaning this was
no eighteenth century Roger Banister hoping to break a record
for Queen and Country. This was a guy who did
this for money, for the equivalent in winning of about
seventeen thousand dollars at least as much as his annual

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income might have been selling fruits and vegetables from a cart,
and the way it's phrased in that magazine, we don't know.
If more than one bet of fifteen guineas to five
was placed, he might have won thirty four thousand dollars
or fifty one thousand dollars or five hundred and ten
thousand dollars. Because this was for money, the loser or

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losers who bet he could not finish the race in
four and a half minutes had to be satisfied that
he had done it in less than four and a half,
in this case, in four As we know from our
own times, losers now like to claim they didn't lose
and will go to any length to convince others they
did not lose. But James Parrott got his money, which

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means that the loser or losers believed James Parrott really
raised a mile and did it in four minutes. I'm
sold antiquated books and four ment miles run one hundred
and eighty three years before the first four minute mile,
and costermongers and agricultural change. They may come and go,
and may be trustworthy or untrustworthy, but money is money.

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And James Parrott was given the equivalent of his annual
salary at least once because somebody who thought he could
not do it agreed, Yeah, I was wrong. He really, really,
really really did just run the mile in four minutes. Now,
of course the whole account in the book could be wrong.

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I'm old enough that I was actually on the air
doing sportscast on the radio network of United Press International
on April twenty first, nineteen eighty when Rosie Ruiz quote
one unquote the Boston Marathon. Then it turned out two
people had seen Rosy Ruiz burst out of the crowd
of spectators on Commonwealth Avenue and start running alongside the

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men runners. And then it turned out that while she
was supposedly completing the nineteen seventy nine New York Marathon,
she had struck up a conversation with a freelance photographer
on the subway, and the two of them went to
the finish line together, and Rosie Ruiz then told officials
she had just finished the race, and Rosie Ruiz was
a total fraud in two different marathons. Maybe the seventeen

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seventy four minute mile of James Parrott was just inaccurate.
Maybe it was just an inside joke or a misheard
rumor or a typo, or he took the subway with
Rosie Ruiz, or it was a joke by whoever wrote
the book. I've told you this story before about the
nineteen twelve Saint Louis Brown's second baseman named Proctor, and

(55:47):
nobody could find anything about him. And then it turned
out Proctor was the Western Union operator who used to
make up all the official scorecards after each game, and
one day he decided he always wanted to be a
Major League ballplayer, so he put himself in the scorecard.
Maybe James Parrott was the author of this the sports
magazine or his four minute miles and Monty Python jokes go. Now,

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that's what I call a dead parrot. So if it's
a mistake, if it's a typo, if it's his hype job,
if it's Rosie Ruiz, if it's Leu Proctor, Roger Banister
is safe now he's not because there was also a
runner named Powell, and Powell in seventeen eighty seven said

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he could run a mile in four minutes, and he
wasn't messing around. He bet a thousand guineas that he
could do it one point one million dollars in today's money.
And not only that, but he ran on a famous
English running track near Hampton Court, and five days before
Christmas of seventeen eighty seven he ran a time trial
so that the gamblers could all come over and see

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what shape he was in and whether they should bet
for him or bet against him. And he did it
in the time trial in four minutes and three seconds.
And when Powell said the betters could see what shape
he was in, he really meant it. He was dedicated
to his cause five days before Christmas and this guy
ran a mile naked. All that was in the papers.

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What happened to the actual race, we don't know that
nobody has ever found that newspaper. Nobody's ever found an
account of the race, only the time trial, So we
have to go under the assumption that Powell never did
better than four to three. But once again, Roger Banister's
four minute mile has withstood the test of time. Kinda bah, No,

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actually it hasn't. There's also another guy named Weller. Weller
was famous enough as a professional runner of the time
that when he said he could run a mile on
the Banbury Road in Oxford, the newspapers of the day
all showed up to preview it, to talk about his
two brothers, who were also professional runners, and to cover
his attempt on October tenth, seventeen ninety six. And there
it is in the papers. Weller of Oxford runs a

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mile in three minutes fifty eight seconds, not only one
hundred and fifty eight years before Roger Banister, but a
second and a half faster than Roger Banister. So here's
the thing. If somebody really ran a mile in three
fifty nine or three fifty eight at the time of

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the American Revolution, wouldn't that stand out as such an
impossible performance then, such an anomaly, so startling that it
would be viewed in the same way we would view
news coming up on Monday that somebody now had just
run the mile in three minutes flat. I mean, if
somebody ran the mile in three minutes flat, we would
check to see if the guy was a space alien

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or a time traveler. Wouldn't they have been amazed on
October tenth, seventeen ninety six, disbelieving what they had heard,
not at all. And that's the second half of the
story of the day. Roger Banister did not break the
four minute barrier. Research and computers and simulation show that
people in the seventeen eighties were consistently running the mile

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in four minutes and eighteen seconds, four minutes and twenty seconds,
four minutes and fifteen seconds, if the info about Weller
is right, three minutes and fifty eight seconds. All the time,
these numbers were being put up by all kinds of runners.
So a four minute mile would have been great, but
not out of context, not in seventeen ninety six. And

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then you have to ask, if it happened, where are
all those records. Who were all those four minute eighteen
guys and four minute three second guys and three fifty
eight guys. What happened to the records? Well, see, that's
another scandal. Those eighteenth century records were erased in the

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nineteenth century because richer, slower people in the nineteenth century
wanted to say they held the records. They erased the
record book that part of the story, and the additional
sad truth that much of the claims about Roger Banister
are really really racist. Next, we know Roger Banister really

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did run a three minute and fifty nine second mile
on May sixth, nineteen fifty four in England. It was
timed and announced to a waiting crowd by no less
a figure than Norris mcwerder, who was later the founder
or co founder of the Guinness Book of World Records.
And everybody who was there saw history and was part

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of an impossible dream coming true. And as I mentioned earlier,
the next day the New York Times actually had an
editorial asking whether or not anybody would ever do it again.
There is considerable evidence, as I've laid out here, that
it was done before, like two hundred years before. But
if you were still not convinced that, no, no matter

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what else it was, Roger Bannister's three minute fifty nine
point four second mile on May sixth, nineteen fifty four
was not the first four minute mile. If James Parrott
and the naked runner Powell of Hampton Court and Weller
seventeen ninety six don't convince you, there is also this
there is a sports historian named Peter Radford, himself the

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bronze medalist in two sprints at the nineteen sixty Olympics
in Rome, and he brought the story of Parrot and
Powell and Weller to the forefront in the British press
nearly twenty years ago. This man found them because he
was looking for and finding the records of more than
six hundred running races in the eighteenth and nineteenth century.
Running against the clock, against each other, usually for money,

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was not only the most popular professional sport in Britain
at that time, it was also probably the first. And
with so many races and especially winning and losing times recorded,
Peter Radford had data to work with. When guys didn't
run a four minute mile, how fast did they run it?
How fast were these professionals going the average ones over

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other distances in say seventeen eighty nine, What was the
range of times? And his computer looked at all of
these races six hundred or so, and all of the
times and all of the speeds, and it spit out
this conclusion. Factoring in the margin of error, Radford wrote
the best possible one mile time would be anywhere between

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four minutes, thirteen seconds and exactly four minutes. So no,
you cannot say James Parrott ran the first four minute
mile in seventeen seventy and Weller ran the first sub
four minute mile in seventeen ninety six, not with certainty,
but I think you can say with certainty that somebody
did it before the year eighteen hundred, and that when

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Roger Banister crashed through the tape at Oxford at six
oh four Greenwich meantime on the evening of Thursday May sixth,
nineteen fifty four, and the track announcer Norris McWhorter announced
that Roger Banister's time in the mile was and he
gave it a desperately long pause, by all accounts, three
minutes fifty I an unfall ten seconds the moment that happened,

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Roger Banister became at best the second man to run
a mile in four minutes or less, but more likely
he was like the twenty second or the two hundred
and twenty second. So why why didn't anybody know this?
Why did Roger Banister live a life of unceasing, undiminished

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and sorry, undeserved fame. And that guy Weller, who may
have run the race a second faster and one hundred
and fifty eight years earlier. Why don't we even know
Weller's first name? All sports are based on history. Records
are made to be broken. The older the record, the
louder the break. Who screwed this up? How did we

(01:04:14):
lose Weller in the nooks and crannies of history. We
didn't lose them. It wasn't an error. It was deliberate.
And that's where this gets to be a crime. Our
historian and ex Olympic runner mister Radford quoted another ancient book,
British Rural Sports by J. H. Walsh, which was published

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in eighteen eighty eight, and in it all the dozens
of speed and distant events had two sets of records,
one for professionals like Parrot and Powell and Weller, the
ones who ran for money, the ones on whom people bet,
the ones who bet on themselves. There was that set
of records, and then another set of records which was

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given far more weight and far more importance for the amateurs.
By the early twentieth century, Adford wrote, the professional records
had been erased from these books, expunged, not forgotten, removed.
Why because the professionals were far better than the amateurs.

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No amateur held the record in the mile. It was
all professionals, but the amateurs were in charge. They were
the British upper class. They raced not for money, but
for sport. So the amateurs simply did what the upper
class always does in this situation. They erased the records
of all the professionals. And oh, by the way, they
also erased all records set by women. The British obsession

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with the superiority of the amateur over the professional. If
you've ever seen the movie Chariots of Fire, you already
know exactly what I mean. It spread throughout the world
through the Olympics. That's why Jim Thorpe lost all his
gold medals from the nineteen twelve Games. Why the greatest
all around athlete ever died in poverty because he had
once played minor league baseball well to make some money

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in the summer, and everybody knew about it, and nobody
thought they'd hold it against it, But then they held
it against him. He was a professional, so his records
did not count like James Parrott or fill in the
blank here, Powell or I don't remember his first name Weller.
So the world record in the mile as of the

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year eighteen sixty one was credited to a man, an
amateur named Matthew Green. Matthew Green was the fastest man
in human history four minutes and forty six seconds, four
minutes and forty six seconds. In my twenties, I might
have come close to that number. By nineteen thirteen, the

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International Amateur Athletics Federation had taken over, and it recognized
a runner from Cornell, not me, a different runner from Cornell,
as the all time outdoor record holder in the mile
four minutes and thirteen seconds, Paul Jones, one hundred and
forty three years after James Parrot. The indoor record in
the mile was then held by a man named Abel

(01:07:13):
Kiviat four eighteen and two. I met Abel Kiviat. I
interviewed him when he was ninety. I wish I had
known about James Parrot. Then I didn't. Abel and I
talked about his roommate at the nineteen twelve Olympics. Jim
Thorpe got to tell you that story sometime too, But
boy Able Kiviat and I could have had a conversation

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about amateurs versus professionals. And whether or not his record
was actually a record. Anyway, you can see where this
is all going, and we are almost at our proverbial
finish line. Not only did history forget the great athletes
of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries like Parrot and Powell
and Weller, who if they did not break the four
minute mile, they came damn close and did a lot

(01:07:53):
better than my friend Abel Kiviat did, or my Cornell
guy John Paul Jones, to say another, of Matthew Green
four minutes and forty six seconds, What did you do
stop for lunch? Not only were the remarkable athletes like
Parrot and Powell and Weller forgotten, they were buried deliberately.

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It makes the subject of the Roger Banister four minute
mile that everybody celebrates with almost undiminished astonishment every year
at this time. It makes all this a little less
trivial and a little bit more nefarious and wrong and ugly.

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Speaking of Ugly and Banister, there is one other component
to this story. In the nineteen nineties, having been the
god of the four minute mile for four decades, having
been celebrated every day for breaking a record that was
probably broken one hundred and eighty three years before Roger
Banister was asked about the new generation of runners, those
of African descent. On September twelfth, nineteen ninety five, Sir

(01:09:00):
Roger Banister explained, quote, it's certainly obvious when you see
an all black sprint final that there must be something
rather special about their anatomy or physiology which produces these
outstanding successes. And indeed there may be, but we don't
know quite what it is. Some countries have the good
fortune to have a high proportion of black sprinters and hurdlers.

(01:09:23):
End quote. Nineteen years later, Banister was still driving right
into the Eugenics lane, sounding just enough like Jimmy the
Greek Snyder to make you squirm. I love watching people
like Usain Bolt, Banister said. The West Africans, of course,
have an inbuilt advantage, having been transported as slaves to

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the West Indies, only the toughest endured. They have astonishing
muscle composition, with those fast fibers and superior genes. I
will leave it to you and to his maker. An
assessment of how much of Roger Banister was patronizing, how
much was him trying to rationalize how his time had

(01:10:06):
been bettered by nearly ten percent, and how much of
it was just sheer racism. But I will note that
in what Banister said is another reason to believe that
the idea that he was the first human to run
a four minute mile is laugh out loud ridiculous. What
about all of the runners of color over the centuries,

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over the millennia, in Africa and South America and elsewhere
on this globe. By Banister's own disturbing logic, certainly some
of them must have beaten him to breaking the four
minute tape. No, let me close with this. I don't

(01:10:53):
know for certain who ran the first four minute mile
or when. For all we know, it was broken two
thousand years ago, and for that matter, so was the
present world record of three forty three point thirteen. Might
have been James Parrott or Powell or Weller whose first
names we don't know, or someone so lost to history
that we don't know their first name or their last

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name or their country. We don't know who it was.
But no matter what you hear, or see or read
in this Weekend Ahead, it's sure as hell was not
Roger Banister, which brings us lastly to missus Roger Banister
Moira Elva Jacobson Banister, daughter of a Swedish economist. According

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to Roger Banister, his wife didn't know a lick about sports,
let alone about running, let alone about him running for
a time. Roger Banister once said, my wife thought I
had run four miles in one minute. You know, as

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I've been thinking about this and researching that story, you
might as well go with that four miles in one minute.
It's no more ridiculous than thinking that Roger Banister was
the first man to run one mile in four minutes.

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I've done all the damage I can do here. Thank
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