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November 12, 2025 46 mins

Could Britney Spears face charges after her most recent headline of bad driving, or possibly drunk driving, putting others lives in danger, not to mention her own safety?

Britney Spears deletes her Instagram account, but within a week, Spears returns with a lingerie pic and a cryptic message within one week of deleting her account.

Britney is no stranger to making headlines in tabloids, TMZ claims Spears is in danger of going broke, but Entertainment Tonight and Spears’ lawyer says she has multiple revenue streams, and Radar Online reports Spears is partying hard after the break-up with Paul Soliz.

Just last month, on October 22, Britney was seen at a Mexican restaurant in Thousand Oaks, California, unsteady on her feet, and then later caught on video driving dangerously in her car.

Manager of RED-O, Oliver Wynn, says Britney was not intoxicated, and that the pop star did not order alcohol to drink with her quesadilla. Wynn also says Britney, the pop princess, was nice to fans, talking and taking photos.

However, when leaving the restaurant, the staff try to prevent Britney from driving, but she gets behind the wheel of her BMW anyway and proceeds to drive dangerously.

Video shows Britney has trouble maintaining her lane, turning fast making U-turn, and tires screech.

Shockingly, the pop star claims on social media she was not out, that there is a Britney "lookalike" seen, not her.

Kevin Federline, Britney's ex-husband and the father of her two sons, releases a book about Britney, "You Thought You Knew."

He makes outrageous claims of Spears using cocaine while pregnant, hitting one of her sons, and more.

 

Joining Nancy Grace today: 

  • Lisa Kennedy - Daily Mail Columnist: "I have no sympathy for Britney Spears. What if her latest stunt had killed a kid? It's time to admit the truth about this public menace;" Host of the podcast: "Kennedy Saves The World"
  • Elizabeth J. McInturff - Attorney Specializing in Guardianship Issues, Partner at Selzer Gurvitch; LinkedIn @elizabethmcinturff; Facebook @elizabeth.mcinturff.12
  • Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Author of "Deal Breaker," and featured in hit show "Paris in Love" on Peacock; Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive 
  • Ashley Wardlow  - Private Investigator and Chief Operations Officers at Nathans Investigations; IG: @miamiprivateinvestigators, FB: nathansinvestigations
  • Rob Shuter - Host of "Naughty But Nice" Podcast, Author of Upcoming Novel, “It Started With A Whisper" (he has worked with Britney Spears, and has spent some time with her ); IG: @naughtygossip
  • Elina Shirazi - Senior Political Reporter, DailyMail.com; Instagram and TikTok: elinashiaz
  • Dave Mack- Investigative Reporter, ‘Crime Stories’ 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, breaking news tonight Britney Spears
vanishes as criminal charges swirl. I'm Nancy Grace, this is
Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with
us right now. I'm concerned about Britney Spears.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Her ex husband has just released a book about his
life with her.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
He knows how fragile she is and put this book
out anyway. He's just looking for another payday. Is she
spiraling out of control? Is there another conservatorship on the horizon? Now?
The public worried that Britney Spears vanishes.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Listen when Britney suddenly deletes her Instagram, she cuts ties
with everyone she regularly communicates with, and that has those
close to Spears very concerned. Insiders say Spears communicates using
Instagram and social media not just to interact with fans,
but it's how family and friends keep up with her
as well. Now that she's gone Instagram silent, friends and

(01:04):
family have no way of knowing how she is or
where she is.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Britney Spears seemingly dropping off the face of the earth,
but out to renown psycho analyst doctor Bethany Marshall joining
us out of Britney Spears Jurisdiction in California. You can
see her now on peacock. She's the author of deal Breaker,
and you can find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot
com doctor Bethany Marshall. She seemingly lives on social like

(01:32):
there's no life outside of social So when she drops
off the map, off insta, I mean, I think a
lot of people have a guilty pleasure, a prurient interest
in watching her bizarre instit twirls and videos that we
see pop up. She goes radio silent.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Why you know what I would wonder if she was
my patient, And again I've never treated her, I have
not evaluated her, is if she's in some kind of
what we would call a manic episode. And in mania,
there's excessive goal directed activity, drug used hypersexuality, impulsivity, and
most notoriously, lack of insight into what is happening to them.

(02:14):
People who are in a manic episode love to travel,
they love to go places, and the beginning of the
mania feels great because they feel on top of the world.
But once they hit that crash, they really crash, and
she could have become so disoriented she was unable to
even access her install or a good friend got a
hold of her and turned it off.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
For her for a week.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
I'm curious what you mean by that, all of that
psycho discussion. What does it mean when someone's only life
is on social media? That has to mean something. I mean,
I'm just a trial while you're Bethany. That's why I'm
asking you, what does that mean?

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Our first sense of self in life is what we
see reflected in the eyes of our mothers. Okay, we smile,
the mother smiles back. We know we smiled. Child actors
and child musicians, the camera is their mother, okay. The
camera consolidates their sense of self. Their self esteem rises
and falls on the smiles and frowns of others. So

(03:19):
herself is what she's putting forward in the camera. She
may not feel that she has another self, but this
is a socially created self which we all have. We
just have it with people in our lives. She has
it with her camera.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
You know. Speaking of people with prurient interests in Britney Spears,
they don't listen to some of her music, but they
love to watch those videos that my control room is
obviously obsessed with. That's all they show They never show
her with her children when she's out doing Mommy and
me or any oh, there you go. Do you think

(03:56):
you could dig up one picture of her coom where
she's fully clothed.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
The vanishing act from Instagram causes spears fans to grow
concern for her well being, as the weeks leading up
to the silence was filled with social media rants and
furious posts calling out her ex Kfaed for humiliating her
through his memoir. Spears is then captured driving dangerously, crossing
the center line, going on the shoulder and tailgating. A

(04:23):
little more chaos than Silence de leads her Instagram friends
and fans alike concerned.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Straight out to rob Shooter. He is a PR guru
that worked for years for Sewan Comes. I guess you
had to hold your nose during all that time, but
has worked with Britney Spears and has spent a lot
of hours around her. His brand new novel has just
hit Amazon. It's awesome. It started with a whisper. Only

(04:51):
you could come up with that. He's also at robshooter
dot substack dot com, robshooter. Why are her only friends
on Insta? And why has she pulled a vanishing act.
What did you observe with her when you worked around
her to somehow justify this.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
Yeah, for the Britney Spears that we're seeing today is
the Britney Spears who has always existed. The difference was
ten twenty years ago. There was a myth about her
being a very different person, much more buttoned up, much
more together, that was really put out by her record label.
Now that that label has gone away, we're not seeing
a different Britney. This is a really key point here.

(05:33):
Britney hasn't changed. The truth has come out. She's always
been that girl that was seeing they're dancing, and without
the polish of a record label, a powerful company, we
get to see the truth. So this is unvarnished Britney Spears.
This is who she has always been. About her friends, Nancy,
She's never had friends. She became famous at a very
early age and she learned to dance and sing, but

(05:56):
she didn't learn how to make friends. She has almost
no in the business.

Speaker 6 (06:01):
I know.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
For years now, Brittany has been communicating with people through DMS,
through social media. If you look at her phone, she
does not have any phone numbers in that phone. She
has apps to social media and that's how she communicates.
This isn't new, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
I'm very curious. You've been around so many celebrities and
really really big stars in her world. How can she
even make friends? Of course, I started to say, how
is that even relevant to the fact that she is
endangering the public by driving over the double line or
dancing with knives and so so so much more. But

(06:41):
the reality is she doesn't have friends. In her position,
how do you make friends and how can you trust them?
Every man that comes into her life is a blood
sucking parasite and that's putting mildly. Did you observe this
while you were working around her.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
Yeah, everybody around Britney was on the payroll. Everybody around
her was earning a living from her. There was nobody
around her for the reasons of friendship because she was
funny or witty or kind or smart. They were there
because she is the cash cow. She makes tens of
millions of dollars. Listen, it's really hard to make friends
when you leave school. Later on in life, it's difficult

(07:23):
to make friends. Add on top of that, her power,
her fame, her wealth, it's almost impossible a lot of us, Nancy,
we make friends at work. After we leave school or university,
we get a job. Britney's job has ended. She has
not worked in a long time, and when she did
have a job, everybody around her was there for the

(07:43):
wrong reasons. They were there to make money, not to
make friends.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Kevin Fetter lines tell All You thought You knew is
exposing a lack of closeness in spears inner circle, as
she appears to have no one to share what she's
thinking or feeling regarding the accusations being thrust on her.
The source said Instagram is all she has left, and
Spears talks to followers more than her family or friends.

(08:07):
Ever since the conservativeship ended, Spears has used social media
and in some ways as a substitute for in person support.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Straight out to Dave Matt Crime Stories investigative reporter Dave
Max sadly you and I have investigated and covered. I
can't even count the number of cases where when someone
goes radio silent on social it's never a good thing.
In fact, very often that starts a criminal timeline when

(08:37):
someone typically a woman, sometimes a man. I mean, we've
covered them, people that got lost driving and ended up dead,
people that have been murdered, people that have been kidnapped.
We often start the timeline when they go silent on
social media. No wonder everybody's worried sick about Britney Spears.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
You're exactly right, Nancy. It's amazing how many times will
we see that abrupt change of what is normally expected.
And in this particular case, Nancy, it was even more
severe because as the book was getting pushed, you know,
leaking different parts of it, she was responding, and she
was responding aggressively and defending herself on hip multiple times

(09:18):
a day, and it was like she's still defending, defending,
and then all of a sudden, it's over. And that's
what really got people thinking that maybe she had been
pushed as far as she could take. The rubber band
was stretched as far as it could possibly go, and
it snapped because there was no forewarning. There was no hey,
I'm going to take a break for a couple of days.

(09:39):
There was nothing. And as we mentioned, since this is
her major form of communication with fans that are with
family and friends as well as fans, this was not
just an abrupt stop. It was Holy mackerel, Where is Brittany.
We got to see her to see what's going on.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
So Britney Spears vanishes seemingly vanishes. This is after the
restaurant incident where she was apparently drinking again and unsteady
on her feet as she was being led out, gets
in her car and takes off, veering all over the road.
And of course after this incident, all the haters came out,

(10:22):
many of them supporting her leech of a husband, Kevin Federline.

Speaker 7 (10:27):
Listen, do you know that you don't have to like
Kevin Fetterline to acknowledge that what he's saying is true?
I mean, like you can hate the guy and think
that he's a lazy, unemployed leech of a human being.
Is he out of child support and needs money? Maybe
did his kids come to him concerned about their mother's health.
It's just time to wake up to reality people.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
You know that is from Awe shum on TikTok see
forgetting about the millions of dollars federal Line is going
to make from his tail all book. How's that helping
his children to drag their mother through the mud just
to make money. Coincidentally, when his child support stops and
it's not just awesome on TikTok, there are more people

(11:12):
piling on.

Speaker 8 (11:14):
But he raised those kids like we all can agree
that she did not have the mental capacity to raise
those kids in like a healthy, happy environment, and he
managed to do that. So I don't understand why there's
so much hate in vitriol towards him.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
And he got all this money in child support what, yeah,
he should have he had custody of the kids.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Really, Ericalynne on TikTok, he did what any father should do,
what any parents should do, raise his children. So why
do people hate him? Because he's a bloodsucking leech. That's
why I mean straight out to Elena Shiraza, joining US
senior political reporter dailymail dot Com. Elena, thank you for

(11:57):
being with us. Elena. In my world, you have to
look at timing. Only when his child support ended, he
was making between forty and eighty thousand dollars a month
off just sucking the money out of Britney spears. Did
he come out with his tael All book and now
everybody's online piling on supporting him in anti Britney.

Speaker 9 (12:20):
Yeah, I mean the timing you always say, nanti timing timing, timing.
Now all of a sudden, the child's of poor payments
have ended and kaifad is coming out with this book.
You thought you knew. To be fair, he did have
an NDA against him, but he had a lot of
time right to come out and say Britney Spears was
not a good mother. You know, in his memoir he

(12:41):
talks about certain things that Britney Spears did. He said
that she would call when she was with Paris Hilton
and Lindsay Lohan drunk. He said that she bleached the
kid's hair and they came back with burns, that she
was watching them in their sleep.

Speaker 10 (12:56):
You know.

Speaker 9 (12:56):
He goes on to talk about a lot of different things.
You know, she he even said that when she was
doing drugs, so on and so forth. But she can't
help but think this man is going to get a
lot of money from this. And right now it's kind
of like the Johnny Depp Amberhard situation where it's like
suddenly people are switching over to the other side, and

(13:16):
it's like, you know, you have to think about both
sides to every story. Where are all of the free
Britney movement fans right now? A lot of people coming
out and supporting him. And it's certainly interesting to see.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Fetterline, feder Line, Feeder Line, Britney disappears and all anyone's
talking about is Kevin Feterline. He certainly has not been
the only pig at the trough.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
Rob Shehoter he started with Justin Timberlake when she was
a really young teenager in the music business. They were
coming up in the business together. He certainly sold a
lot of records. His biggest solo hit, Primeer River, was
about Britney. So he started with Justin and then the
list went on and on. Let me give you some names.
Wade Robson remember him, he was choreographer.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Now hooked up with me?

Speaker 1 (14:03):
He went on afterwards, way, Robin hold On, what I'm
going to have to do a flow chart and not
in a good way.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
Wade who Wade Robson, R O B S O.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
M Roberson. Okay.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
He went on to accuse Michael Jackson of molesting him.
So he's quite a character. Fred Durst, remember Fred Durst
from Limp Biscuit. There was a while he was with
Jared Lito, another creepy guy in Hollywood who has been
with Britney Spears, Colin Farrell. Remember when she dated Colin
Farrell for a really short.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
A minute, Wait a minute, shooter, I did not ask
you Britney's dating history, to put it nicely, I'm asking
you about men that suck to dry and used up
all of her fame and money. What was the last
one you said?

Speaker 5 (14:53):
I think he did Colin Farrell less. But let me
just say, Nancay, all these guys dating Farrel.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Does not need her money or fame. Did you just
throw him in that part to Steve for Pete's sake?
You're the pr guru. Makes sense? Man?

Speaker 5 (15:06):
None of these people looked after Britney spears. Part of
the reason you were in a relationship with someone is
to be kind to them, to love them, to inspire them.
Brittany has gone from bad guy to bad guy to
bad Brian, let me tell you another one that I
think you'll agree with. Jason Alexander. That's the first guy
that she married. Remember in Vegas, it was twenty four hours.
Her team rushed out.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
It was an all pretty fast.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Do you not believe in love? He apparently loved her
for at least twenty four hours? Okay, go ahead with.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
Twenty four hours a childhood friend, so maybe on this
list he might be the one that actually did. Who
else is on the list too? I remember Adam Galiba,
he was a photographer that took features Galibe.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, I do remember that name. British guy about him.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
When she shaved her head and then he moved in
with her during that really difficult time when she left
her children. Jason Tarwick is an interesting name. Jason was
her agent who went on today.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Remember he actually had a job, didn't he He.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
Did have a job, but his job was making money
from her. He was her agent. So people are saying
that's a little dubious too. Also, to let's see how
health we have on the lift. Sam As Gary the
gentleman she married sam As Gary.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
I would not call him a gentleman. I don't know
where you Brits think a gentleman is, but it ain't him.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
And so this is a long list of people maybe
not gentlemen. Nancy, I'll take your point, people who have
been around Britney Spears haven't necessarily What about the last husband?

Speaker 1 (16:49):
What about the last husband?

Speaker 5 (16:52):
Sam As Gary is his name. He was the fitness
model who was with her for a couple of years.
They had a very odd, odd wedding where apparently Britney's
friends turned up Madonna, Selena Gomes, Paris Hilton. My reporting
has revealed that none of these people are in her
life anymore. She's clearly crying out for help. Where are

(17:14):
those famous friends? Where are the friends that turned up
for the wedding for the good times? They're not there
for the.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Bad I would say, out of the entire bunch, all
of them except I disagree with you about Colin Ferrell
basically such to a dry But I think the tick
that has gorged himself the most would be this guy.

Speaker 10 (17:39):
She saw one of my sons one day this year
and he decided not to go back over there because
of what he saw. The other one, Jaden, who's my
younger son, is nineteen. Now, he's been over there quite
a few times over the past year and he stopped
seeing her in the last few months because of the situation.

(17:59):
I mean, the thing that they've seen are shocking, right,
so shocking that one of my sons came to me
and called me and was like, I don't know what
to do. I'm afraid mom is going to die.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
From our friend Pierres Morgan uncensored. Joining us tonight is
one of my favorite columnists. If you've never read her columns,
you'll agree with me really quickly. Joining me now is Kennedy.
She's known as Kennedy like Share or Elvis. She is

(18:32):
a high profile columnist for dailymail dot Com. Kennedy, thank
you for being with us.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
It is always my pleasure.

Speaker 11 (18:41):
You are an absolute legend, and when your team reaches out,
I'm always held to the s.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Well, you're going to catch hgl for what I know
you are about to say. But as you put in
your article quote, it's time to admit the truth about
this public menace. Now, how long can we blame bad men? Look?
I have blamed Kevin Federline for so long. I blame

(19:11):
the first husband for taking advantage of her. I blame
the new husband. As you said, could not be get
a job as an extra in Sharknado? Is that true?
The model he could not get a job as an
extra in Sharknado? Or did you make that up? Did
you take a poetic license?

Speaker 4 (19:30):
I did? I think I said Sharknado fifteen.

Speaker 11 (19:33):
Even that far into the future, I don't think Sam
is going to be able to land a role there.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
But it's not just about the men.

Speaker 11 (19:42):
It's the position that unfortunately I know obviously and this
has been documented, this has been admitted. She's dealing with
a degree of mental illness here, and I understand that,
but that is not an explanation or an excuse for everything.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
She's forty three years old, she is a mom.

Speaker 11 (20:05):
But still, you know, she's putting herself in these situations
over and over and over again. And it's one thing
if there are predatory men who are taking advantage of her,
but you know, this is not an innocent doe who's
just wandered out of the wilderness. This is a woman
who has been famous for almost thirty years now, and

(20:29):
at some point she has to if she has fought
so hard for her agency, she has to lead with
that and she has to be the one making better decisions.
And part of that is getting a better care team
in position to play a little bit of defense for
because she's not doing it on her own. And all

(20:50):
you have to do is look into her eyes and
you know that she is unwell. You know, this is
a forty three year old woman who has pleaded to
have a relationship with her sons, her sons have said publicly,
you know, we can't be with her mom when she's
dancing around naked with knives with a bunch of dog
poop in the background. They want to help her, but

(21:12):
they're not going to appease her. They're not going to
go down a road of codependency. And unfortunately, something needs
to be done before she gets hurt or especially in
one of the latest escapades, she hurts someone else because
she was not in a good frame of mind when
she left that restaurant.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
After a half hour.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. As you were talking, our
control room and all of its wisdom kept showing one
clip after the other of her dancing around and revealing
scampy outfits. You know, they never show her in her
glory when she's on the stay, performing or shelling out

(22:02):
to all the people she owes money to. I think
part of it is people feel guilty because of the
voyeuristic nature, the prurient nature of even looking at what
she puts on insta and I think we incorporate that
and try not to judge her. But that said, I

(22:23):
gotta draw the line. I must draw the line as
a crime victim. I know how it feels. I know
how it feels for your life to change just like
that because of somebody else's crime. And it's never the same.
I don't care what you hear about closure and moving on.
That's total BS. There's never closure. You figure out how

(22:46):
to live, but that's what it is. And if you
could stop showing her and her mid driftop and underwear
control room and show me that video of her veering
over the double yellow line, that's my problem. That is
my problem now. I screamed, get out of the conservatorship,
but this has got to stop now before somebody is up.

(23:11):
Dad Kennedy.

Speaker 11 (23:12):
Yeah, And that's a problem because if she's in and
I don't know if she was ane redd, I have
no idea what was going on before, during, or after that.
But I know that if I were in that frame
of mind, I would not drive because I would not
put up my life, my reputation, and certainly.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
The lives of others at risk.

Speaker 11 (23:31):
Because as she's swerving around, you know, driving erradically, speeding,
slowing down, gesticulating, wildly, doing random uturns in the middle
of the street, she could have hit a busload of
kids coming back from a sporting event, or you know,
a van ful of seniors out for a night at the.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Theater and she at some point something tragic is going
to happen.

Speaker 11 (23:56):
And is it really appropriate for us to look back
and say, oh, we should have done something differently, because
obviously the conservatorship was too harsh and too restrictive.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
But you know there was no middle ground, there was
no other option.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
You know another thing you mentioned in your article, which
is in the Dailymail title I have no sympathy for
Britney Spears. What if her latest stunt had killed a kid.
It's time to admit the truth about this public menace Kennedy.
And before you start firing off angry Insta and X
and Facebook blah blah blah at Kennedy, think about it.

(24:36):
She Kennedy supported the end of the conservatorship, as did I.
It was draconian, it was too harsh, she was being
bugged and told her she could be with it was crazy.
But now it seems as if the pendulum has gone
too far the other way. In your article, you compare
your words the psycho Mary Poppins moment when she attacked

(25:01):
paparazzi and do you blame her really with the umbrella
and the twisted ankle from doing leaps inside the Chateau Marmont.
You compare those incidents to the current driving fiasco, the
dangerous driving, and you say, this is much worse for
those that are not familiar with the Mary Poppins moment

(25:23):
or the Chateau Marmont twist. Could you explain, yes.

Speaker 11 (25:28):
So in two thousand and seven, she was in a
custody battle with her estrange husband, Kevin Feeder Lyin, and
you know, she had two young kids. That's when she
really had a very public mental breakdown and she was
being followed and hounded by paparazzi, and so she took
an umbrella out of her car, and you know, like

(25:49):
Mary Poppins just started to kind of fighting back, and
people couldn't get enough of it. And it was like
a carrect where Lookie Lou's were slowing down to take
in the potential carnage of her life. It was like
the OJ chase that went on for years instead of hours.

(26:11):
And you know, that was one thing, but this now
where she is going to take away if we fought
for her freedom to advocate getting out of this restrictive conservatorship.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
She is going to take away other people's freedom in
the form of.

Speaker 11 (26:29):
Their lives if she's not careful, and you can't have
it both ways. It's not like leave her alone. You
guys are so mean to Brittany, while at the same time,
leaving her alone leaves her to you know, potentially cause
tragedy in her life for someone else's and I don't.

(26:50):
I would like to see her heal. I would like
to see her back on stage of her own volition.
I would like to see her recording music, but she
has to stabilize. She's she's clearly in a very, very
unstable place. And as a fan of her music, and
I agree that she has reached icon status because of

(27:10):
her talent and because there's something about her vulnerability and
her life that is.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Like Marilyn Monroe. But she doesn't have to be frozen
in cultural amber because she dies young like she still
has a lot of life and thriving to do.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
But not in question for you, Kennedy, and I know
that you're not a shrink, although maybe you should consider that.
But you make a really interesting comparison in this Daily
Mail article comparing justin Timulate getting a dui, and he
is eviscerated wrongly or rightly compared to Brittany, very different treatments.

Speaker 11 (27:54):
Yeah, and I think he took a big reputational hit
after she revealed some the details of their relationship and
her memoir, but that that took his career down several
wrongs on the ladder that he has been ascending for
decades as well. And so if justin Timberlake is you know,

(28:16):
as you say, a viscerated for driving impaired, why is
she given a shield?

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Why is she.

Speaker 11 (28:24):
Given a pass by her fans when you know we're
not in the middle of a conservatorship, We're at a
different time, and you have to acknowledge that you have
to acknowledge that these are a different set of circumstances.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
That she is launching irresponsibly.

Speaker 11 (28:39):
So call her out for the irresponsibility because you know,
if you don't have some stop guards, what will she
do next?

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Yeah? And I wonder who's who is going to be
hurt other than her next. I got a question, and
I've seen it so many times in court where I
feel that women have been totally taken advantage of by men,
just in the worst ways. And you point out a
series of guys who are basically leech is sucking the

(29:12):
blood and the money out of Britney Spears. But yet
she keeps going back to the same type of guy.

Speaker 11 (29:23):
We all know someone like that in our lives, Like
we all know the friend who dates the unavailable men,
dates the bad boys, and you know we're the ones
who end up consoling them. But at some point, if
there's a pattern in your life and the same thing
is happening over and over again and you are the
common factor there, you have to take responsibility for that

(29:46):
aspect of it. And you know, unfortunately she's got tons
of millions of dollars that she's blowing through. And what
happens when she's broke? You know, are we going to stars?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Have you ever read let's say, the Daily Mail you
guys love to show, and of course I read it.
I never don't read it where some famous person is
wandering around LA with a shopping cart full of stuff
and you think, what the hey happened to all that money?
We are told shockingly that Britney Spears has run through

(30:23):
a sixty million dollar fortune. What the hay happened?

Speaker 11 (30:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (30:29):
I mean to us, that's a lot of money.

Speaker 11 (30:31):
And you know, part of the onus was on her
dad for you know, spending like a drunken tailor when
she was under a conservatorship. But you know now that
she really doesn't have the same revenue sources. She got
a good chunk of money for her memoir and a
nice bonus of that from that that she has reportedly
already run through. And you know, she goes on these trips.

(30:53):
It's it's her money. She can spend it. But at
some point, look at Justin Bieber, like, you know, he
he's lucky. He has a sugar mama, He has a
wife who's now worth a billion dollars, and he he
released some music this year. But if you're an artist,
releasing music doesn't make you money. Unless you're touring, you're
really not going to capitalize on your catalog. And I

(31:17):
don't know if she's capable of the physical and emotional
rigors of a tour or a residency. I know her fans,
they are legion and they are devoted. They would love
to see her. But if if she plans on maintaining
the money that she's got, she's gotta she's gotta slow down.
It's like anybody but Kennedy.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
We're showing right now. I don't know if you can
see your monitor the incident at the Ritzy La Suburb restaurant,
and you just had to describe her shorts as saggy
die person. Did you really have to go there, Kennedy
at all?

Speaker 11 (31:58):
I write what I see Nancy, and sometimes as a writer,
you have to be descriptive. And I looked at the
shorts and I was like, whoa, hey, depends. I couldn't
pull anything out of the clean basket, had to fish
around in the hamper for.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Those I would like to laugh. But when I keep
looking at that veering over the double yellow video, I
think I've probably just seen too much Kennedy crime stories
with Nancy Grace. Because we're all standing by, we want

(32:39):
something to happen. We're the ones screaming get rid of
the conservatorship. Now she's out of the conservatorship and it's
all going straight to h double L. My question now
is whether charges are going to be brought for the
reckless driving. It's all on video, and I guess you
noticed the paparazzi was recording it didn't call nine one one,

(33:01):
didn't try to stop her just recorded it probably made
a lot of money off of it. Kennedy.

Speaker 11 (33:05):
Yeah, absolutely, And there were not police officers there, so
they really can't charge her. So you know, all people
can do is if you see her driving radically again,
you have to call law enforce and that's that's the
bottom line.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
And she if she.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Is Trinity Kennedy, my sweet dear naive Lisa Kennedy. Many
a case has been proven without a cop being a witness,
where there's a will for years away trust it and
things like that. Yeah, you think murders, right, Chadlo stations
happen out on the street usually.

Speaker 11 (33:43):
No, I don't know, man, I think I would be
like if I were her lawyer, I would I would
pull the Princess Diana defense and be like, she her
life was threatened by these poparazzi. You can't see from
that vantage point she was trying to escape from them.

(34:06):
And you know, unfortunately LA jury's tend to favor celebrities.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
All that is true, But I'm wondering if a court
appearance for the dangerous driving, which could easily have calls
to head on collision, because when you follow that video
onto the end, right after she goes over the yellow line,
the double line and comes back. A car comes just
right after that. Up right there can look.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
At that corner. There are no street lights.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Nothing, and here comes the car. You know, thirty seconds
would have made such a huge difference, and not in
a good way. Well, keep your defense attorney thoughts to yourself.
Let's not give anyone any ideas what can be done
to help Brittany and help the public. Kennedy, I'm waiting
for your next article. I'm a big fan. Thank you

(34:56):
for joining us tonight. Bye, thank you. But what happened
to Britney? Why did she vanished? Straight back out to
special guest Elena Shirazi joining a senior political reporter dailymail
dot com. Elena, Brittany made a return? What happened?

Speaker 9 (35:18):
She disappeared for a few days, and then she made
a couple posts separated. We know with Britney sometimes she'll
make a couple posts on the same day, sort of
spread out. She rejoins with a cryptic message she was
wearing racy lingerie. She mentioned boundaries in her post, maybe
an ode to her ex Kfed's new book. She also

(35:41):
mentioned the devil. She said she tries to live within
her means, which is another topic we covered earlier. Nancy
she mentioned the devil is in the details, but we
can get to that later. So she made a reappearance,
right and you know, I feel like Britney Spears' Instagram
is kind of what you do when you can sleep
at midnight and you're in your bed scrolling trying to

(36:02):
make sense of the captions and think that you might
be onto something. Some of it makes sense, some of
it doesn't. But certainly, you know, her song may have
been a fulfilling, a self fulfilling prophecy.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
My loneliness is killing me.

Speaker 9 (36:16):
It feels like even deactivating her Instagram is sort of
like a sense of control that she has that she
can deactivate it, she can come back when she wants to. Unfortunately,
the comments have been turned off, where I know a
lot of us have been going to the comments to
sort of piece the puzzle together. But certainly she did
make a re appearance. She talked about how she was

(36:36):
trapped in Mexico. She made another post about that where
she was speaking with a British accent and sort of
you know, dancing around in different outfits. So she's continuing
the same Brittany. There was a pause, which a lot
of fans were concerned about.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
But she's back, and a.

Speaker 9 (36:56):
Lot of the reasons that people say she disappeared was,
of course because she was so hurt by that book
from her ex and a lot of the things that
were in it that were probably very difficult for her
to read.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Rob, She's joining me, author of a brand new novel
that just hit Amazon. It started with a whisper, Rob,
how long are we going to excuse her behavior? If
she wants to live that way, that's her decision. She's
no longer under conservatorship. But when you are driving dangerously

(37:29):
and I believe criminal charges could be proven based on
that paparazzi video, I really do. Will they do it?
It's la they love celebrities? Probably not, but could it
be done? Yeah? So how long will she be given
a pass? She's the poor little rich girl.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
I feel, Nanci, she's going to be given a pass
until she harms somebody very seriously. And I think people
around Brittany are not only worried about her harming herself,
which is a real concern, but also to damage that
she can do to others. So I agree with you
We've covered this a long time. Celebrities in LA really

(38:08):
get away with a lot, and anywhere else this wouldn't
have been tolerated, something would have been done. But because
she's Britney Spears, because she's in LA. Because thankfully, up
to now Nancy, nobody has been really hurt. I think
she's going to keep getting your way with it.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Rob Shooter, let me see him. Do you realize that,
according to reports, Britney Spears has plowed through I'm reading,
I'm I'm just pulling this out of thin air, sixty
one million dollars with nothing to show for it but
a bunch of fast food receipts, fifty grand, fifty grand

(38:47):
on a single private jet, Mexican villas to the tune
of twenty thousand dollars a night, forty thousand dollars on
pay care, one hundred thousand dollars on massages, and this
is conservative, five hundred dollars manicures. All that money gone,

(39:12):
and she is not going back to work any time soon.
She's apparently blown through everything she made on her memoir.
Where is the money? Is she going to be one
of those people pushing a cart around La full of
their stuff.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
Potentially, it's that serious. She has blown through a million.
She's arguably one of the most successful pop stars of
all time. She should be worth hundreds of millions of
dollars when you look at how much money she's made
over her still quite short lifetime. She's still in her forties.
She's made billions from concerts to record sales, to fragrances

(39:52):
to merchandise. None of that money appears to be with Brittany,
and I think that is something that we need to
investigate too. Where is Britney's money? Yes, she's wasted a lot,
but also too, I think there's something a little darker there.
And the money that she earned often went to other people.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
What about it? Doctor Bethany a spending like a drunken salor.
I don't know that she's a shopaholic. I don't know that,
but the expenditures aren't bizarre and she is not working
sixteen million dollars in a year down the crapper.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Okay again, remember I don't know her. I have not
evaluated her, but if she was my patient, I would
wonder about bipolar illness or stimulant abuse. And the reason
I would wonder that is that both cause compulsive impulsive spending.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
That is at the heart of it.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
And according to one report, when she was in Mexico,
she was up all night online shopping. And what's bizarre
Nancy is those restaurants that we see her in, I'm
familiar with them. They are very inexpensive restaurants. She eats
fast food, she's not out fine dining. Her clothing looks
very inexpensive, so she's not spending it on food and clothing.

(41:07):
I don't see any great jewelry. Okay, she has a
nice car she drives. My celebrity patients and my practice
are taking advantage of every single day. So if they're
not spending the money themselves, somebody else is going to
do it for them. And when you are raised in
her kind of environment by a stage mom, you are

(41:27):
socialized to believe that you have to give everything to
everybody else around you, and it creates a situation where
these celebrities are sitting ducks.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Ashley Wardlaw is joining US private investigator Chief Operations Officer
Nathan's investigations. Ashley, there is a move afoot to instigate
criminal charges against Britney Spears for the driving we observe
in the video if you were building that case, and

(42:00):
I really doubt that LAPD is going to pursue this
because she's a celebrity. If it were you or me,
they'd probably be all over it. But Ashley, how would
you begin to prove that case? I guess starting at
the restaurant itself.

Speaker 12 (42:16):
Well, Nancy, in the situation like this, it's not necessarily
about collecting new evidence the way people might imagine. It's
about verifying facts, and a private investigator's job would be
to confirm what's real versus what's the rumored, especially when
there's so much conflicting information in the media. So for example,

(42:37):
of course we all see the video, Okay, we see
that it exists. But a good move for a PI
would be to go and see if there's a pattern
of this behavior. So let's see if we can get
video from other places that she's visited, and of course,
you know, see what her behavior is in those videos.
Of course, it would be a good move also to

(42:58):
do surveillance on her now for a couple months to
see what her behavior looks like. And of course this
will be done in a discreet manner, Okay, it wouldn't
be anything that she's noticing, you know, she's being.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Watched or followed.

Speaker 12 (43:12):
Something important to note is that of PIS, we don't
necessarily make a diagnosi or judgments about people's mental health,
but we can definitely provide documentation that would help attorneys
or family members, or especially the courts just kind of
come to a clearer picture of what's going on to.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Elizabeth J McInturff joining US high profile lawyer who specializes
in guardianship issues. She's a partner at Sales or Gervich.
Elizabeth putting together a case like this, you typically have
to have a breathalyzer of what alcohol tests to prove DUI,
but that wouldn't necessarily be the case here. It's caught

(43:54):
on video. I believe the nav system, the navigation system
in that vehicle would come into play roadside surveillance to
show she was in fact the only one in the
car and she was controlling the car the entire time,
and eye witnesses, specifically the person that led her by
the hand out of the restaurant and poured her into

(44:16):
the car. It can be proven, but will it, Elizabeth?

Speaker 13 (44:23):
Certainly, I think they can make a case for reckless driving.
I don't know that they can make a case for
driving under the influence, given that, as you stated, there's
no breathalyzer, no roadsides or vriety test. But again, reckless
driving while could be a symptom showing that a guardianship
is necessary, it doesn't mean that a guardianship is required.
So that's something we have to keep in mind when

(44:44):
we're talking about what is essentially bad behaviors.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Here to Elena Shirazi joining us from Daily Mail, Alena,
is that what it will take for Brittany to get
her life back together again to show up in court
on dangerous driving charges? It could?

Speaker 9 (45:04):
I mean, she certainly needs a kind of shock, right.
I mean, she lobbied and advocated for her freedom, along
with really the rest of the world who wanted her
to have it. But that comes, of course at the
cost of responsibility, of being a functional adult, of realizing
that there are consequences for your actions, and so she
has to realize that when she was able to escape

(45:26):
her conservatorship from her father, that means that the liability
is now on her, and so does she want that responsibility.
I don't know, it doesn't seem like it tonight.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
We remember an American Hero Officer Travis Wallace Helena PD, Arkansas,
shot in the line of duty after five years serving
and protecting. Survived by his only son, now without a dad.
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