June 5, 2025 • 42 mins
Jurors in Sean "Diddy" Combs' sex trafficking trial heard testimony from a witness who alleged the disgraced music mogul dangled her over a balcony, and she feared he would drop her. Bryana "Bana" Bongolan, a designer and friend of Cassie Ventura Fine, alleged Combs held her over a 17-story-high balcony. She testified the rapper then threw her onto balcony furniture, leaving her with a bruise on the back of her leg and pain in her neck and back.
Brendan Paul, a 25-year-old basketball player from Ohio, amateur music producer, and graduate of Fairmont State University in West Virginia, is accused of being a “drug mule” for Combs, his employer. Paul was arrested on drug charges at a Miami airport as he attempted to board a private jet with Combs.
During a lunch break, the judge addressed Combs’ attorney, Marc Agnifilo, and alleged that Combs was trying to influence jurors by nodding at them during Bongolan’s testimony. Prosecutors then called a woman to the stand who was allegedly trafficked by the hip-hop mogul as recently as last year. The witness, who will testify under the pseudonym “Jane,” began her testimony.
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Joining Nancy Grace today:
- Philip Dubé - Former Court-Appointed Counsel, Los Angeles County Public Defenders: Criminal & Constitutional Law, Forensics & Mental Health Advocacy
- Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker: When to work on a relationship and when to walk away” Also featured in hit show: "Paris in Love" on Peacock, www.drbethanymarshall.com , Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, Twitter: @DrBethanyLive
- Armon Wiggins - Entertainment & Legal Affairs Commentator, Host of the podcast “The Armon Wiggins Show” on YouTube
- Todd Shipley - Digital Cyber-Crime expert, Former Detective Sargent with the Reno, Nevada Police Dept. - with 25 years in law enforcement, Author of: "Surviving a Cyberattack: Securing Social Media and Protecting Your Home" and author of: “Investigating Internet Crimes: An Introduction to solving Crimes in Cyberspace”, www.darkintel.info, Twitter: @webcase
- Lynn Shaw - Founder and Executive Director of Lynn's Warriors - an organization committed to ending human trafficking and sexual exploitation, Host of Lynn's Warriors on YouTube, website: lynnswarrior.org X: @lynns_warriors, YouTube: @LynnsWarriors
- Rob Shuter - Host: Naughty But Nice Podcast, can be found at robshuter.substack.com, Former publicist of Sean Combs, Author: "The 4 Word Answer", IG: @naughtygossip
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Didty the Danglar sworn testimony
that Sean comes dangles a model with his bare hands
off a seventeenth floor balcony, her life precariously in the balance,
(00:26):
and the jury reacts not in a good way. I'm
Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories, and I want to
thank you for being with us.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
But he's a screamer, he's a shouter, he's a violent man.
He could throw things.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Oh no, Kitty's really angry this time.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh, he gets so angry he forgets to breathe.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
He was a bully.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Did He was menacing, threatening, intimidating.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
She talked about how he was violent, he was threatening.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Suddenly, all those oaks taste like dirt in my mouth.
Can you imagine, just think about it being held off
a balcony seventeen floors up and dangled, dangled. This is
(01:20):
different from the beatings that we've heard about, the kickings,
the beatings, the draggings by somebody's hair, the threats, the
broken arms slammed in the door, actually dangling someone holding
them by their armpits off a seventeenth floor balcony, joining
(01:41):
us an all star panel. But first, I want to
go straight out to the Monahan Federal Courthouse. Standing by
is investigative reporter Laurene Kanlin, star of Pop Crime TV.
Lauren the jury finally hears what we heard about rumors
of months ago, the balcony dangling incident.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
What happened of Bongolan finished her testimony today and the
cross examination was a bit brutal. Now I believe the
defense was going for impeachment. But Brianna Bongoland showed us
a photograph yesterday of the bruise that Diddy allegedly gave
her during this balcony incident, and it did elicit quite
(02:21):
a reaction from the jury. The bruise looked bad, there
was a puncture hole that appeared to be in the
middle of it, and we also saw a photo of
her or the back of Brianna in a neck brace
as well. She said her ex girlfriend took this photo.
At one point during the cross Nicole west Moreland got
her to say that yes, she had the neck brace on.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
She took it for the photo and then she took
it off.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
During redirect they did sort of reiterate, well, she wore
the net brace more than just the one photo, but
back to the impeachment. The photo of the bruise. We
saw the metadata behind that photo and it was taken
on September twentieth, sick twenty sixteen, and this was either
the morning after or kind of the morning.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Of the incident.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Now, the defense said, are you aware, miss Bonglan, that
Sean Colmes and Cassie Ventura were in New York and
New Jersey during this time for the Bad Boy Reunion
tour and then they had a charity dinner in New
York City, and you know, she didn't know or she
didn't recall. And then we were shown an invoice from
the Trump Hotel and it was the guest was Frank Black,
(03:32):
which we know now is one of Ditty's aliases that
he used to check into hotels, and he was there.
Hear the date from September twenty fourth to September twenty ninth,
So that was quite a moment.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I know, I did see some faces in the gallery.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
One of the jurors looked a bit surprised, So that
was that was a bit shocking.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
You know, it's never a good thing, Lauren Colin when
the gurrs physical react like you see them rear back
or make a face or hold their head, and we've
been seeing a lot of that. You know. It's almost
as if to doctor Bethany Marshall joining us, Psychoalys out
of the la jurisdiction. She is now seen on Peacock.
(04:17):
She is the author of deal Breakers and you can
find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor Bethany,
it's you know, I heard Rob Shooter say this a
while back, who's also with us today. He's known Sean
Combs for years and Shooter you stated at one point
(04:39):
he lives his life like it's a movie. And I'm
going to follow up after you answer. It seems like
he thinks he's in a movie, you know, where you
dangle somebody off a balcony, like in a James Bond movie,
and those you know, they typically drop them. But this
is it's real. He took a grown woman and I'm
(05:04):
sure he's his highest kite on whatever drugs he was
on and whole for off a balcony like he's the
villain in a movie.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, it's cinematic, isn't it. But I think you're being
kind by saying, James Bond, this is the Sopranos. This
is really really outrageous behavior. And I think it's hard
for people to even understand this. If you were not there,
if you did not experience this, this doesn't sound real.
And so that's why this testimony is so important, Nancy,
(05:35):
because it's going to paint this picture. It's gonna make
it really really vivid, and most importantly, it's gonna make
it really really real.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
It happened. He's right, doctor Bethany Marshall. And he knows.
He has described how the combs gets angry and the
veinstick out of his hair in his face. At he
throws a major tantrum because he because he can get
away with it. But they you know, I'm not afraid
(06:05):
of heights at all. But when I go up really
high and look down, I can feel a tingle go
over my whole body. I guess it's something instinctive that
your body knows you're in danger. The seventeenth floor, Bethany,
and this woman was hanging. She was dangling. Her body
(06:26):
was not attached to the balcony at all. Her whole
self was hanging over seventeen floors down. You know, Nancy,
acting like you're a hero in a Marvel movie.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Would fit criteria for something called histrionic personality disorder. Histrionics
are when somebody acts very dramatic. They have rapidly fluctuating
emotions that appear deep in nature, but they're not deep
at all. They're merely designed to get attention. So he
has grabbed everybody's attention in his life, so it he
(07:00):
enforces all this dramatic behavior. You would I would also
guess low levels of conscientiousness, impulse control disorder, explosive intermitted
explosive disorder, and also I would suspect drug abuse because
the impulsivity is so bad and combined with aggression and
low levels of remorse regarding actually risking another person's life.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
You know, I'm thinking about everything you said. You know
back to you. Rob Shooter is a PR guru who
worked for homes for a really long time, not anymore.
A host of Naughty but Nice podcast that's at Rob
Shooter and s h U t e R. Not Shooter
Bang Bang Shooter Robshooter dot substack dot com. Rob. When
(07:48):
you say now, she said a hero, I would say
a super villain where you know, like in a cartoon,
even where you see someone a character hanging somebody off
of balcony, and that's funny in a cartoon. But the
fact that he held her without dropping her is a miracle.
(08:10):
I mean, the woman still has night terrors about it,
and those are real. By the way, I still, to
this day sometimes have night terrors about cases that I
investigated and prosecuted because they were so heinous. But it's
like he's living in a movie. And you said that
weeks ago, and I really didn't get it.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Nancy. He plots his life out, not
only that it's one big movie, but almost like it's
different episodes throughout the day. His schedule, it's every hour,
and I remember he once said to me, you can
start over every hour. A lot of people, if you
haven't a bad day, you wait until tomorrow to start over.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Not puff.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Every time there's a new hour, it's a new chapter
in the life of Diddy, and what happened before doesn't matter,
it's what happens right now. It's a really odd skilled
he has, but it's a skill that has served him
very well until now.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
But you know what, Rob Shooter, I think that in
court right now, it's just another episode for him. It's
just another vignette in his movie that's playing in his mind.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, yeah, I think you're Ryan, And he would think
this actually, perversely, might be a great episode. If this
is a movie for somebody to be in this much
trouble and to bounce back, that is the type of
story that he's telling himself. My inside has told me, Nancy,
I'm a reporter now, and all my sources did his
sources tell me. It's convinced that this is going to
(09:38):
come to an end and he's going to be okay.
And already people in his inner circle, Nancy are plotting
the comeback tour, new music. What's he going to do next?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
And that's good? Stop sorry, hold on, what did you
say about it? Come back to her. There's going to
be a.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Tour, it's going to be an album. We've seen his
family with a documentary crew every day. These are not
people that think this is the last chapter, the end
of the movie. This is the middle of the movie,
and they plan to have a big comeback story.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well, Sean comes, his family prepares their documentary to air
after the verdict, and his enablers prepare his comeback tour
when he is found not guilty. According to them not.
According to me, a lot of people have been didified.
(10:29):
Joining me is a special guest is armand Wiggins. Entertainment
legal affairs commentator hosts a podcast, The armand Wiggins Show.
And I want you to see what happened to him
outside the courthouse. Oh this is crazy, okay. That from
(10:52):
our friends at TMZ, Harvey Levin, you know, armand Wiggins.
Please don't laugh because you never know when somebody comes
up to you on the streets start screaming at you,
whether they are high on math, whether they have a gun.
So you know what next time, Please just don't engage,
don't be the hero, just say thank you and walk away.
(11:14):
But yet you engaged Armon Wiggins. What was she screaming?
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Honestly, she just was trying to go viral. She was screaming,
let's go viral.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Mother.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
She was saying a bunch of flagrant obscenities to me,
and I think it was just because she saw me
going live. This court, this case has become a zoo
and a breeding ground for all walks of life, and
people are just coming. They're trying to get their piece
of the moment, their piece of the viral moment, and
just shouting out and making stuff up. So there was
a woman that got put out of the courtroom. This
(11:46):
woman was heckling. So it was actually I didn't even
know who this woman was. She just saw me on
live camera. She figured, Okay, this is a content creator.
He goes viral first, didy news and let me go
and trash him in his live feed and hopefully I'll
make the news.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
A lot of people are well, whether they've been ditified,
and without knowing any of the evidence, or ignoring the
little bit of evidence they do know, they're convinced the
Shawm Combs is innocent. You know, I got into it
with ray Ja again, but I want you to hear
you mentioned a woman that got dragged out of court
(12:21):
by armed guards. Well, listen to.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
Her, did he Everyone thinks this as a joke, laughing
at black man legacy being destroyed. Everyone has been laughing.
I don't care if it sounded funny. It's not funny.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
No, it's not funny for women to get beaten, raped, drugged,
dragged over and over and over. And it's not just
one woman. It's not just cassievent Tira. It's one after
the next after the next that was from our friends
at BBC on TikTok back to you armand Wiggins, who
(12:59):
was salted outside of the courthouse. I just heard her
talking about the legacy of Sean Comes and wrapping it
into the legacy of black men, that they should not
be wrongfully attacked. What about black women? What about them?
(13:23):
Do they not matter in the black legacy? What about them?
What about all the women that we're hearing from, What
about Capricorn Clark? What about one after the next, after
the next woman of color that has gotten a beating
(13:45):
from Sean Combs? And do you know how close it
was for this woman hanging off a balcony by high
on something Sean Combs, But yet no one seems to
hear that. What about these women at the legacy of
(14:07):
Sean Combs? Are you kidding me? It sounds like exactly
what ray J and I were arguing about on TMZ.
You're saying the same thing. He's not crazy, He's a celebrity.
Everybody loves him.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Ray J was mentioned in the court document as Cassie's
drug dealer too yesterday, so there might be some affiliation there.
But you know, I talked to ray J. RAYJ said
they had nothing to do with him, and he's not
sure why Diddy's team is mentioning him. I don't know
what that relationship is. But in regards to the women,
I think that the prosecution is doing a great job
because one thing that we cannot get around is whenever
(14:40):
they played that video and when they got into that
forensic audio and video and you saw Cassie being.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yoked up and dragged, I don't care what.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
You're talking about as far as Diddy's legacy. You have
a heart, you have an emotion, and you feel every blow,
every kick, and so I think that everybody in that room, man, woman, child,
they felt that there's no way that he's getting around that.
And the prosecution make sure every day they played that
video just in case you may have forgotten what we're
(15:08):
really here for.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
He had a lot of money. He liked to flash
it around. He wanted to get free clothes, free dinners,
free tickets if he went at to clubs, restaurants.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
A designer scarf think air mais if I'm even saying
that correctly, was used as a wick.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
But he is benefiting quite a bit from this. He
is taking business deals. The sale of his clothing, his perfume, everything.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
There were bags and bags and bags of designer clothing
that he'd never worn that was just sitting there. It's
a life of success, Sitter.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
What is it with rich people. I've never seen such
cheap individuals as rich people. The more money they have,
the more they pinched the pennies.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, maybe that's the reason that they are rich. Puff
is a little secret on Puff. Puffy is one of
the cheapest person I've ever met. He didn't really want
to pay for anything. So when he had to sign
over that hundred thousand dollars to blackmail to take that
tape from the hotel to him, that would be really,
really painful. He does not want to part with his
(16:11):
own money. When he did those big white parties, Nancy,
let me tell you a secret, didn't pay a penny.
All of those were sponsored by people. He was very
good at getting other people.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Okay, well wait, the white parties that resulted, and that's
everybody at the get go We talked about them a lot,
the white parties or where everybody is supposed to dress
in white. Whatever you're saying they were sponsored, what do
you mean by that? Like by who? I bet they're
proud now I sponsored a white party that turned into
(16:45):
a free car, that turned into a felony indictment.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Individuals companies would sponsor those parties.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Company like a beer company, a champagne company, who sponsor If.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
You look on the step and repeats these photographs, they
have a who goes behind the celebrities where I have
a poster behind me. These celebrities have those step repeats
for one reason, not to send you nice pictures, but
to promote these brands. They pay to be on that
wall behind all the celebrities. So look closely and look
at some of those brands, and maybe some of those
(17:17):
brands today have something to say about this because they
put up the money that let these parties happen. Without
their money, there would have been no party, as puff
was not paying well.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
So the richer they are, the cheaper they are. I
want to get back to the facts, and I want
you to percolate shooter on other penny pinching maneuvers of
Seawan colms, because I want to hear every single one
because now I'm seeing his family and all these designer clothes.
I mean, for Pete's sake, the wick to the Molotov. Hey, Bethany,
(17:51):
you out of the whole panel, know how to say
air may? Is that how you say the scarf? You've
told me a times? But okay, emz Okay, who else
besides Sean Combs would use an Omez scarf?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Shooter?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I mean it just like I say, take out an
ad on Third Avenue? And I always use Third Avenue
because that's where Court TV was. Third Avenue would always
be a big billboard right outside Court TV at thirty
nine con third take out and ad at that was
my scarf sign? Did he? I mean, who else is
going to use a designer scarf for a week for Emolotov? Really?
(18:28):
I couldn't name.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I couldn't name another person who would do that, Nancy.
I do have a fun story, though, or a disturbing
story about did he being cheap? I remember he was
doing a photo shoot and he insisted we pay his friend,
or the magazine pay his friend ten thousand dollars to
groom him to do his hair ten thousand dollars. This
(18:49):
haircut was the magazine paid. They paid the ten thousand dollars.
And when I saw the pictures, Nancy, he was wearing
a hat. He didn't even show his He did not
pay for that. It was a scam and he made
his friend a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I wonder if the king friend gave him a kick back. Okay,
I could talk about that all day, but I got
to get back to the testimony, back to the courthouse.
Standing by very patiently is investigative reporter Lauren Conlin. She's
a star of Pop Crime TV on YouTube. Lauren, after
all of that, getting dangled off a balcony, balcony seventeen
floors up, she was in, I think it was a
(19:27):
FaceTime and she actually apologized to him.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
When she was asked if Sean Colmes had had reached
out or if anybody reached out, she said yes, he
did try to reach out to her through FaceTime a
day or two later, and she kind of said that,
you know, she said she didn't want any problems.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
He didn't say much. He just kind of had his hands.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
On his head like this. She also testified that Cassie
came out of the room, out of her bedroom at
a certain point and said, did he dangle you over
a balcony?
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Almost in displa.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
To Sidney Summer joining US Crime Stories, investigative reporter, we
also learned, and you're writing down every significant thing that
happens in the court room, didn't. She go on to
talk about nightmares and night terrors that she had as
a result of that incident.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
Absolutely, Nancy. She said that she would wake up screaming
or her partner would overhear her screaming in her sleep,
and this is something that has severely affected her going forward.
She says over time that that PTSD has seemed to
lessen a little bit, but it took a very long
time to get back to a place of feeling secure,
(20:45):
and she said she was terrified to go to police
like he did. She was so afraid of the violence
escalating that she didn't want to report this or talk
about it with anyone.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace, you know, Philip Debay is
joining me veteran trial lawyer, out of the LA jurisdiction debate.
We're seeing a whole another animal right now. We've heard
about beatings and draggings and yankee people by their hair
(21:26):
and kicking them, and that's something that a lot of
people see, whether it's in the movies, whether they've seen
it in real life, but dangling someone off a seventeenth
floor balcony. That's a whole nother thing that really can't
(21:47):
be made up.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
No, of course not. But how I would play it
if I were his counsel, is, like you said earlier,
is it real or is it just real testimony? Because
if you remember, it came out that she was hooked
on ketamine and all kinds of other drugs that are
various types of anesthetics that put you in a trance
like state, almost in.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
A twilight state.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
So who really knows what, if anything, she accurately members
and it.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Is nae, Cassie, we're doing drugs. Where do you think
they got those drugs?
Speaker 9 (22:18):
Debate, Let's give them that, Let's pretend, let's really pretend
he was applying them with dope. It is not his
mo to be defenestrating people. It's just simply not the case.
But I think for him better yet, is that just
because he is in a respondiat superior mob boss, he
(22:40):
can be acting in his individual maniacal capacity unmedicated. That
does not fall under RICO. It falls under state crimes,
and the statutes of limitation have run. So what the
Feds are doing is they're using RICO as an end
run around the state statutal limitations that local das blew.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Okay, you know what's interesting, I'm gonna try to pretend
I didn't hear anything. Do they just say because it
was like ye, Lynn Shaw is joining me, Founder and
director of Lynn's Warriors, committed to ending sex abuse and
sex trafficking on women and girls. You know what, every
time we hear about a pimp branding, let's go with
(23:24):
branding a victim or threatening her in some bizarre way,
or torturing her in some unorthodox manner. And I came
up with branding because of a famous case we were
just investigating where all of the victims were branded, and
(23:48):
it really sticks out in your mind because it's unusual.
You don't hear of it very often. But actually, what
Shaw Colms Is accused of doing here is no bad
are than what pamps do to women under their control.
Speaker 10 (24:06):
What we're forgetting here in all of this discussion is
we saw that woman on the video, you know, calling
out how great ditty is and I'm paraphrasing a little bit.
And alleged crimes. We know all this, but how about
you know what's being lost here? All of the women
and victims, and not only of ditties, because every single
day at my organization and other coalition organizations across the
(24:28):
United States, guess what, Nancy, we have to put out
statements to all of our survivors around the country's country
because they're so triggered from hearing all of this.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
And on top of it, I.
Speaker 10 (24:38):
Want to point out, Anthony, I hope you're booked to
testify or something. I hope they have some trauma bonding
specialists going in there, psychoanalysts, psychologists to explain about this
trauma bonding, trauma vulnerable witnesses. And let me also point out,
I don't want to hear about drugs. You know why
because anybody who is addicted and these Cassie herself admitted drugs, drugs, drugs,
(25:03):
and you know what, they will do anything to stay
by that person who will supply the drugs, including taking beatings,
doing crimes for them. So we've got to turn this
around and we've got to support victims across the country
in this story because I'm getting tired of every single
day I don't know how to explain it to them,
and we're a week four, they're asking what's going on?
They are so triggered, and we have lawyers all over
(25:24):
televisions and online talking about things, putting ideas out there.
This case cannot be sex trafficking. It's not going to
be you know, manact this, that and the other thing.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
It better darn.
Speaker 10 (25:33):
Well be reco case criminal enterprise, because you know what,
the only thing in my mind that makes all of
this stick is no matter what happens at the end
of the day is that Cassie video and that hotel hallway,
and that's all I hope they convictim. That's myst on that.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
You know, the more the defense objects to any particular
line of questioning, the more sensitive it is. Right, the
more you scream the dentist office is because that's somewhat
hurts right there on that particular tooth. And they went
after this witness tooth and nail. To Lauren Kamlin, there
(26:11):
was quite quite a cross examination of her on the stand.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
What happened during Nicole Westmoreland's cross examination of Rihanna Bongolan.
She also got her to say that after a week
after the alleged balcony incident, Rihanna was going to private
parties with Sean Colmes and she was actually texting back
and forth with Passy a few days later about having
a sleepover. So Wes Morland said to her, you know,
(26:38):
this horrible thing happened to you, and a week later,
you're willing to go back and have a sleepover.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
And Bongolan just said, I guess so. And there was
some tense moments going back and forth.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Because of her original civil suit, she did fire her attorney,
Tyrone Blackburn. He came up a number of times today
because she said that he kind of misinterpreted what she
said and alleged some kind of sexual assault happened or
did he groped her when lifting her up as he
allegedly dangled her. And Wes Moreland said, well, you know
(27:14):
you fired Blackburn, but you still perpetuated this this lie.
So to speak with your other attorneys in that lawsuit
and your new updated lawsuit as well, did you not?
And you know, she kind of said, well, I didn't
write all of that in the new lawsuit. My attorneys did.
So it was just a lot of back and forth
about that and very tense. I'm not going to say
(27:36):
it was hostile, but it was. It was uncomfortable and
it was aggressive. And it was a lot of can
you rephrase this? Can you rephrase that? And I think
that was just causing just some discomfort in the gallery.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
I guess it was tedious.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
It was long, but I would say the points were
well taken and the cross was well taken.
Speaker 11 (27:57):
Row Busts didty Bucks did? He allegedly paid off an
employee millions and millions of dollars to keep these victims quiet.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
These used to throwing money at any situation to get
what he wants.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
One hundred thousand dollars, didty Bucks? We don't live at
the courthouse. Standing by is investigative reporter Lauren Conlin. Let's
go straight to the Monahan courthouse. Lauren Conlin, we just
brought up in conversation drug use where Dubet tries to
victim blame the victims here and Cassie claiming that they
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were on drugs. Well, maybe they were, but even a
woman on drugs can be abused, or a woman that's
had a drink can be abused, or a woman that
wore a short skirt or went jogging by herself, or
walked from the target to her car in the parking
deck and got kidnapped. All of those people that did
something wrong can become victims. What can you tell me
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about drugs being discussed in the courtroom?
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Wes Moreland also really focused on the heavy drug use
that Cassie and.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Bonglin once partook in.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
We talked about drugs for a significant amount of time
and in my opinion, that was just to remind the
jury that maybe her memory is not so great after
doing so many drugs.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
But overall it was.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Sad to watch her on the stand.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
She really seemed to have some PTSD over this incident.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And who wouldn't and what is that, doctor Bethany Marshall.
PTSD wells.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Traumatic stress disorder is when somebody has had such a
traumatic event that no prior learning can equip them or
prepare them to handle the situation. Flashbacks, avoidance of anything
that reminds them of the dreaded situation, tearfulness, isolation.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Numbing, Nancy.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I think the numbing is particularly important because women who
are sex trafficked often become addicted to drugs by their johns,
and they are primed for addiction because they're trying to
numb out to tolerate the abuse, and these dreams, these
night terrors, are a flashback, and we think of the
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avoidance which is the primary hallmark of PTSD. These women
are primed to go through the rest of their life
avoiding relationships, conflict, anything that could remind them of all
the trauma and the abuse that they suffered.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Speaking of drugs, whatever happened to the drug mule that
allegedly worked for Sean comes Where is he in this scenario? Listen?
Speaker 12 (30:43):
While Sean Combs's legal troubles are far from over, his
so called drug mule has completed the requirements of his
plea deal and all charges against him have been dropped.
Brendan Paul faced charges for possession of both cocaine and
marijuana when he was caught with the substances on Diddy's
private jet back in March, but as a first time offender,
Paul was allowed to enter a pre trial diversion program
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with the benefit of a clean record on successful completion.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I wonder if Brendan Paul is going to be part
of the state's case regarding Sean Combs as drugs and
here it is you're blaming the victims for allegedly using drugs,
but yet nobody's saying who supplied them. The drugs, where'd
they come from? And in the last hours we have
heard for the first time about GHB gamma hydroxy butyrate
(31:33):
being given to a victim. We heard that at the
get go when this was all just swirling as gossip
speaking of drugs. No one can get out of their
mind the mansion raid video. This is for our friends
at TMZ. Now, isn't it true, Sidney Sumner drugs were
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found during the raid?
Speaker 8 (31:56):
Yes, Nancy, there were a good number of drugs recovered
from Sean Diddy Combe's Miami mansions. Now, this property is
actually two separate houses that Sean Combs has combined into
one large estate. And there were.
Speaker 13 (32:14):
Pills, powders, and my personal favorite was a giant green
trunk that had Diddy written on the side of it
that was stock full of marijuana and marijuana associated products.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, and he was said Diddy on it. Okay, who's
going to claim, oh, that's not mine. It has his
name on it. For Pete's sake. I mean, how vain,
Rob shooter, you got your drug bag with your name
engraved on it?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Really stupid, absolutely stupid. Now I was looking at that
footage though, did he was a real neat freak. So
that is not how his office would be. If you
looked at my office, it might look a little like
that even without a rage, but did he was very,
very neat, and so this is not how his office
would have So they really searched, They really looked deeply
in there, and they found what I think are the goods.
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And ultimately, now his name's on it. It was in
his house. He's gonna own this.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Okay, So hey, look at all those tennis shoes. Man,
there's thousands and thousands of dollars. Again, this from my
friends at TMZ, my friend Harvey Levin, shooter, you very
carefully sidestepped any drug use you observed while while working
for Sean Combs.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I would never to me you, Nancy Grace. I would
tell you everything, anything you want ask.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Away comes use drugs, I would guess, Yes.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I didn't see him do drugs. There were times when
I was with him when when he was I didn't.
I really didn't. And there was times when you'd get
really odd texts emails from him. And now looking back,
I'm assuming that there's times he was on drugs. I
didn't see him do the.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Best part of it is shooter that when you saw
him it was for like a photo shoot or completing
his you know, videography everything that he was doing. But
it's very hard when you're hooked on drugs to separate it.
As a matter of fact, I wonder if you somehow
missed this shooter that Louis Vauton bag Shawn Colmes carried
(34:24):
with him everywhere. It was stuffed with viagra and similarly
potent form of viagra, ad built water, PIOLs, appeals to
increase his sperm count, cash, ecstasy, percocet. It goes on
and on, stuffed with it his Louis Vaton bag, and
(34:49):
we went everywhere with drugs. Yet now we're hearing an
attack on the victims because they may have used drugs.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
The hypocrisy is not lost on me. He did travel
with a bag. His assistant always had a bag. I
assumed it was grooming products. I really did. I sound
stupid and naive about it, but I didn't know that this.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Was a viagra an astroglide man Viagra and astro glide
crime stories with Nancy Grace to the Courthouse standing by
Lauren Conlin. Lauren, we also heard in detail from a videographer,
(35:32):
a video expert, Frank Piazza.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
What happened We heard from the government expert Frank Piazza,
who works for Legal and Audio Video. He's a forensic
video expert, and essentially his testimony for the government was
that he put together the surveillance footage from the Intercontinental
Hotel and the cell phone footage that we've seen previously.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
He put this together chronologically. He described why.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Certain things happen, why sometimes the time stamps get ahead.
He said that sometimes there are you know, thirty frames
in a second, but we're seeing twenty two. He explained that,
you know, when we are looking at this, he inserted
black spots or a black screen when seconds were skipped,
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and these seconds were skipped due to motion sensors and
all of that type of forensic video stuff that a
lot of us don't understand, but we were really trying to.
But essentially, he wanted us to know that really nothing
was altered and the video is a good depiction of
what we saw in the hallway on March fifth, twenty sixteen,
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which of course is the infamous video of Cassie being
tragically beaten.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
And Lauren Colin. Of course that did not stop the
defense from a vigorous cross examination, right what happened.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
When Tenny gerre goes to the examination. She just wanted
to point out certain things that maybe gipped ahead too much.
You know, there were five second differences in certain frames
because the motion sensor wasn't picking.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Up on any motion.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
So for example, we saw Diddy, you know, a bag
was in his hand and then the bag was dropped,
and this happened because five seconds were skipped because of
again a motion sensor. So she just wanted to make
it clear that certain angles we saw in this video,
things weren't quite as fast moving as it would seem
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because of certain just issues because of the way that
the surveillance footage was was shot.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
It was an older system at the time.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
And again that testimony, I think a lot of us
were really focused on trying to understand it as well
as the jury joining me.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Now expert to break it all down for us. Todd Shipley,
digital cybercrime expert, former detectives argent with Reno PD, twenty
five years in LA law enforcement and author of Surviving
a Cyber Attack and Investigating Internet Crimes. Thank you for
being with us. You can find him at Dark Intel
(38:15):
Info Tasa Shipley. What is she saying? What were they
trying to do on.
Speaker 14 (38:21):
The stand, Well, the prosecution was trying to introduce the
film that was a video recording of a video recording
of what occurred, and so they successfully got it in.
The testimony wasn't really rebutted, although the defense tried to
set up that there were some issues with the film
itself and the timestamps, but all that was clearly defined
(38:43):
and identified by the witness to say that it's normal
behavior because of how the film was made, which was
a iPhone video of another video, and so they were
able to get it clearly introduced. And it's going to
be damning evidence along with all the other potential evidence
that exists, because there's ninety pieces of digital evidence that
are going to come in that the FBI has taken.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Where do you get the number ninety pieces, Well.
Speaker 14 (39:07):
It's been reported in the news that there's that many
pieces of evidence that were taken from the various search
warrants of his properties. So we'll see how whether that
all comes out, whether how much of it gets introduced,
But there's a lot of digital evidence potentially in this
case to reflect on what occurred.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
You know what, ton Shipley is a good thing the
state had this witness, Frank Piazza, on the stand, because
they could have just ented. Well they did, they introduced
the video already. But if they hadn't had that witness
on the stand, they could have used those glitches in
the video and claim that it had been tampered with
(39:47):
and it wasn't real. They could argue that in their
closing statements. So thank goodness they had Piazza right well exactly.
Speaker 14 (39:55):
I mean, he clearly identified why those things occurred and
how they occurred. And without his testimony, you're correct, they
would have said that there was a problem with the film,
and he shut down that whole defense that there was
a problem with the film. Unless they bring somebody else
on to dispute it, you know, it's going to stand
that the video is as was shown and there's you know,
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not going to be defense against it.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Lauren Colin at the Courthouse, the one hand Courthouse, Laura,
I'm very curious about how the jury is reacting to
what's happening.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
I have to try so hard to not make any
type of expression or faith when I am watching that video.
I'm in a new spot today in the courtroom. So
I was observing the jury, and most of the jurors
still don't have a reaction to watching that video over
and over again, although there is one man that does
(40:47):
seemed very pained by it.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
He kind of has his head down, you know.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
You can kind of see him sort of shaking from
time to time.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
You hear that debate, it's the death nail. U c
a juror hanging their head during the testimony. It's the
death nail response.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
That's only one out of twelve.
Speaker 9 (41:18):
Remember, you got to get a dozen or a Baker's dozen.
Assuming you get one kicked and have to put in
an alternate one does not get you a verdict period.
If anything, that would be a defense win. And by
the way I have learned over the years, I do
not ever judge my success during a trial based on
the nodding remissing of a juror or notes at their take.
Speaker 14 (41:42):
As all the magic changes.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
One six, I'm hearing something from the courthouse. Oh yeah,
it's Diddy's death nail. We wait as justice unfolds, and
now we remember an American hero, Sergeant Floyd Miles, Charles
County Sheriff's Office passed away in a line of duty
and leaves behind grieving wife Denise and children Stephen Rashad
(42:10):
and Taekwon, American hero Floyd Miles. Nancy Grace signing off
goodbye friend,
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Didty the Danglar sworn testimony
that Sean comes dangles a model with his bare hands
off a seventeenth floor balcony, her life precariously in the balance,
(00:26):
and the jury reacts not in a good way. I'm
Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories, and I want to
thank you for being with us.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
But he's a screamer, he's a shouter, he's a violent man.
He could throw things.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Oh no, Kitty's really angry this time.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh, he gets so angry he forgets to breathe.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
He was a bully.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Did He was menacing, threatening, intimidating.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
She talked about how he was violent, he was threatening.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Suddenly, all those oaks taste like dirt in my mouth.
Can you imagine, just think about it being held off
a balcony seventeen floors up and dangled, dangled. This is
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different from the beatings that we've heard about, the kickings,
the beatings, the draggings by somebody's hair, the threats, the
broken arms slammed in the door, actually dangling someone holding
them by their armpits off a seventeenth floor balcony, joining
(01:41):
us an all star panel. But first, I want to
go straight out to the Monahan Federal Courthouse. Standing by
is investigative reporter Laurene Kanlin, star of Pop Crime TV.
Lauren the jury finally hears what we heard about rumors
of months ago, the balcony dangling incident.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
What happened of Bongolan finished her testimony today and the
cross examination was a bit brutal. Now I believe the
defense was going for impeachment. But Brianna Bongoland showed us
a photograph yesterday of the bruise that Diddy allegedly gave
her during this balcony incident, and it did elicit quite
(02:21):
a reaction from the jury. The bruise looked bad, there
was a puncture hole that appeared to be in the
middle of it, and we also saw a photo of
her or the back of Brianna in a neck brace
as well. She said her ex girlfriend took this photo.
At one point during the cross Nicole west Moreland got
her to say that yes, she had the neck brace on.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
She took it for the photo and then she took
it off.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
During redirect they did sort of reiterate, well, she wore
the net brace more than just the one photo, but
back to the impeachment. The photo of the bruise. We
saw the metadata behind that photo and it was taken
on September twentieth, sick twenty sixteen, and this was either
the morning after or kind of the morning.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Of the incident.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Now, the defense said, are you aware, miss Bonglan, that
Sean Colmes and Cassie Ventura were in New York and
New Jersey during this time for the Bad Boy Reunion
tour and then they had a charity dinner in New
York City, and you know, she didn't know or she
didn't recall. And then we were shown an invoice from
the Trump Hotel and it was the guest was Frank Black,
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which we know now is one of Ditty's aliases that
he used to check into hotels, and he was there.
Hear the date from September twenty fourth to September twenty ninth,
So that was quite a moment.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I know, I did see some faces in the gallery.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
One of the jurors looked a bit surprised, So that
was that was a bit shocking.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
You know, it's never a good thing, Lauren Colin when
the gurrs physical react like you see them rear back
or make a face or hold their head, and we've
been seeing a lot of that. You know. It's almost
as if to doctor Bethany Marshall joining us, Psychoalys out
of the la jurisdiction. She is now seen on Peacock.
(04:17):
She is the author of deal Breakers and you can
find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor Bethany,
it's you know, I heard Rob Shooter say this a
while back, who's also with us today. He's known Sean
Combs for years and Shooter you stated at one point
(04:39):
he lives his life like it's a movie. And I'm
going to follow up after you answer. It seems like
he thinks he's in a movie, you know, where you
dangle somebody off a balcony, like in a James Bond movie,
and those you know, they typically drop them. But this
is it's real. He took a grown woman and I'm
(05:04):
sure he's his highest kite on whatever drugs he was
on and whole for off a balcony like he's the
villain in a movie.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, it's cinematic, isn't it. But I think you're being
kind by saying, James Bond, this is the Sopranos. This
is really really outrageous behavior. And I think it's hard
for people to even understand this. If you were not there,
if you did not experience this, this doesn't sound real.
And so that's why this testimony is so important, Nancy,
(05:35):
because it's going to paint this picture. It's gonna make
it really really vivid, and most importantly, it's gonna make
it really really real.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
It happened. He's right, doctor Bethany Marshall. And he knows.
He has described how the combs gets angry and the
veinstick out of his hair in his face. At he
throws a major tantrum because he because he can get
away with it. But they you know, I'm not afraid
(06:05):
of heights at all. But when I go up really
high and look down, I can feel a tingle go
over my whole body. I guess it's something instinctive that
your body knows you're in danger. The seventeenth floor, Bethany,
and this woman was hanging. She was dangling. Her body
(06:26):
was not attached to the balcony at all. Her whole
self was hanging over seventeen floors down. You know, Nancy,
acting like you're a hero in a Marvel movie.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Would fit criteria for something called histrionic personality disorder. Histrionics
are when somebody acts very dramatic. They have rapidly fluctuating
emotions that appear deep in nature, but they're not deep
at all. They're merely designed to get attention. So he
has grabbed everybody's attention in his life, so it he
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enforces all this dramatic behavior. You would I would also
guess low levels of conscientiousness, impulse control disorder, explosive intermitted
explosive disorder, and also I would suspect drug abuse because
the impulsivity is so bad and combined with aggression and
low levels of remorse regarding actually risking another person's life.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
You know, I'm thinking about everything you said. You know
back to you. Rob Shooter is a PR guru who
worked for homes for a really long time, not anymore.
A host of Naughty but Nice podcast that's at Rob
Shooter and s h U t e R. Not Shooter
Bang Bang Shooter Robshooter dot substack dot com. Rob. When
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you say now, she said a hero, I would say
a super villain where you know, like in a cartoon,
even where you see someone a character hanging somebody off
of balcony, and that's funny in a cartoon. But the
fact that he held her without dropping her is a miracle.
(08:10):
I mean, the woman still has night terrors about it,
and those are real. By the way, I still, to
this day sometimes have night terrors about cases that I
investigated and prosecuted because they were so heinous. But it's
like he's living in a movie. And you said that
weeks ago, and I really didn't get it.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Nancy. He plots his life out, not
only that it's one big movie, but almost like it's
different episodes throughout the day. His schedule, it's every hour,
and I remember he once said to me, you can
start over every hour. A lot of people, if you
haven't a bad day, you wait until tomorrow to start over.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Not puff.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Every time there's a new hour, it's a new chapter
in the life of Diddy, and what happened before doesn't matter,
it's what happens right now. It's a really odd skilled
he has, but it's a skill that has served him
very well until now.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
But you know what, Rob Shooter, I think that in
court right now, it's just another episode for him. It's
just another vignette in his movie that's playing in his mind.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, yeah, I think you're Ryan, And he would think
this actually, perversely, might be a great episode. If this
is a movie for somebody to be in this much
trouble and to bounce back, that is the type of
story that he's telling himself. My inside has told me, Nancy,
I'm a reporter now, and all my sources did his
sources tell me. It's convinced that this is going to
(09:38):
come to an end and he's going to be okay.
And already people in his inner circle, Nancy are plotting
the comeback tour, new music. What's he going to do next?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
And that's good? Stop sorry, hold on, what did you
say about it? Come back to her. There's going to
be a.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Tour, it's going to be an album. We've seen his
family with a documentary crew every day. These are not
people that think this is the last chapter, the end
of the movie. This is the middle of the movie,
and they plan to have a big comeback story.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well, Sean comes, his family prepares their documentary to air
after the verdict, and his enablers prepare his comeback tour
when he is found not guilty. According to them not.
According to me, a lot of people have been didified.
(10:29):
Joining me is a special guest is armand Wiggins. Entertainment
legal affairs commentator hosts a podcast, The armand Wiggins Show.
And I want you to see what happened to him
outside the courthouse. Oh this is crazy, okay. That from
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our friends at TMZ, Harvey Levin, you know, armand Wiggins.
Please don't laugh because you never know when somebody comes
up to you on the streets start screaming at you,
whether they are high on math, whether they have a gun.
So you know what next time, Please just don't engage,
don't be the hero, just say thank you and walk away.
(11:14):
But yet you engaged Armon Wiggins. What was she screaming?
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Honestly, she just was trying to go viral. She was screaming,
let's go viral.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Mother.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
She was saying a bunch of flagrant obscenities to me,
and I think it was just because she saw me
going live. This court, this case has become a zoo
and a breeding ground for all walks of life, and
people are just coming. They're trying to get their piece
of the moment, their piece of the viral moment, and
just shouting out and making stuff up. So there was
a woman that got put out of the courtroom. This
(11:46):
woman was heckling. So it was actually I didn't even
know who this woman was. She just saw me on
live camera. She figured, Okay, this is a content creator.
He goes viral first, didy news and let me go
and trash him in his live feed and hopefully I'll
make the news.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
A lot of people are well, whether they've been ditified,
and without knowing any of the evidence, or ignoring the
little bit of evidence they do know, they're convinced the
Shawm Combs is innocent. You know, I got into it
with ray Ja again, but I want you to hear
you mentioned a woman that got dragged out of court
(12:21):
by armed guards. Well, listen to.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
Her, did he Everyone thinks this as a joke, laughing
at black man legacy being destroyed. Everyone has been laughing.
I don't care if it sounded funny. It's not funny.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
No, it's not funny for women to get beaten, raped, drugged,
dragged over and over and over. And it's not just
one woman. It's not just cassievent Tira. It's one after
the next after the next that was from our friends
at BBC on TikTok back to you armand Wiggins, who
(12:59):
was salted outside of the courthouse. I just heard her
talking about the legacy of Sean Comes and wrapping it
into the legacy of black men, that they should not
be wrongfully attacked. What about black women? What about them?
(13:23):
Do they not matter in the black legacy? What about them?
What about all the women that we're hearing from, What
about Capricorn Clark? What about one after the next, after
the next woman of color that has gotten a beating
(13:45):
from Sean Combs? And do you know how close it
was for this woman hanging off a balcony by high
on something Sean Combs, But yet no one seems to
hear that. What about these women at the legacy of
(14:07):
Sean Combs? Are you kidding me? It sounds like exactly
what ray J and I were arguing about on TMZ.
You're saying the same thing. He's not crazy, He's a celebrity.
Everybody loves him.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Ray J was mentioned in the court document as Cassie's
drug dealer too yesterday, so there might be some affiliation there.
But you know, I talked to ray J. RAYJ said
they had nothing to do with him, and he's not
sure why Diddy's team is mentioning him. I don't know
what that relationship is. But in regards to the women,
I think that the prosecution is doing a great job
because one thing that we cannot get around is whenever
(14:40):
they played that video and when they got into that
forensic audio and video and you saw Cassie being.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yoked up and dragged, I don't care what.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
You're talking about as far as Diddy's legacy. You have
a heart, you have an emotion, and you feel every blow,
every kick, and so I think that everybody in that room, man, woman, child,
they felt that there's no way that he's getting around that.
And the prosecution make sure every day they played that
video just in case you may have forgotten what we're
(15:08):
really here for.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
He had a lot of money. He liked to flash
it around. He wanted to get free clothes, free dinners,
free tickets if he went at to clubs, restaurants.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
A designer scarf think air mais if I'm even saying
that correctly, was used as a wick.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
But he is benefiting quite a bit from this. He
is taking business deals. The sale of his clothing, his perfume, everything.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
There were bags and bags and bags of designer clothing
that he'd never worn that was just sitting there. It's
a life of success, Sitter.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
What is it with rich people. I've never seen such
cheap individuals as rich people. The more money they have,
the more they pinched the pennies.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, maybe that's the reason that they are rich. Puff
is a little secret on Puff. Puffy is one of
the cheapest person I've ever met. He didn't really want
to pay for anything. So when he had to sign
over that hundred thousand dollars to blackmail to take that
tape from the hotel to him, that would be really,
really painful. He does not want to part with his
(16:11):
own money. When he did those big white parties, Nancy,
let me tell you a secret, didn't pay a penny.
All of those were sponsored by people. He was very
good at getting other people.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Okay, well wait, the white parties that resulted, and that's
everybody at the get go We talked about them a lot,
the white parties or where everybody is supposed to dress
in white. Whatever you're saying they were sponsored, what do
you mean by that? Like by who? I bet they're
proud now I sponsored a white party that turned into
(16:45):
a free car, that turned into a felony indictment.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Individuals companies would sponsor those parties.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Company like a beer company, a champagne company, who sponsor If.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
You look on the step and repeats these photographs, they
have a who goes behind the celebrities where I have
a poster behind me. These celebrities have those step repeats
for one reason, not to send you nice pictures, but
to promote these brands. They pay to be on that
wall behind all the celebrities. So look closely and look
at some of those brands, and maybe some of those
(17:17):
brands today have something to say about this because they
put up the money that let these parties happen. Without
their money, there would have been no party, as puff
was not paying well.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
So the richer they are, the cheaper they are. I
want to get back to the facts, and I want
you to percolate shooter on other penny pinching maneuvers of
Seawan colms, because I want to hear every single one
because now I'm seeing his family and all these designer clothes.
I mean, for Pete's sake, the wick to the Molotov. Hey, Bethany,
(17:51):
you out of the whole panel, know how to say
air may? Is that how you say the scarf? You've
told me a times? But okay, emz Okay, who else
besides Sean Combs would use an Omez scarf?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Shooter?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I mean it just like I say, take out an
ad on Third Avenue? And I always use Third Avenue
because that's where Court TV was. Third Avenue would always
be a big billboard right outside Court TV at thirty
nine con third take out and ad at that was
my scarf sign? Did he? I mean, who else is
going to use a designer scarf for a week for Emolotov? Really?
(18:28):
I couldn't name.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I couldn't name another person who would do that, Nancy.
I do have a fun story, though, or a disturbing
story about did he being cheap? I remember he was
doing a photo shoot and he insisted we pay his friend,
or the magazine pay his friend ten thousand dollars to
groom him to do his hair ten thousand dollars. This
(18:49):
haircut was the magazine paid. They paid the ten thousand dollars.
And when I saw the pictures, Nancy, he was wearing
a hat. He didn't even show his He did not
pay for that. It was a scam and he made
his friend a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I wonder if the king friend gave him a kick back. Okay,
I could talk about that all day, but I got
to get back to the testimony, back to the courthouse.
Standing by very patiently is investigative reporter Lauren Conlin. She's
a star of Pop Crime TV on YouTube. Lauren, after
all of that, getting dangled off a balcony, balcony seventeen
floors up, she was in, I think it was a
(19:27):
FaceTime and she actually apologized to him.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
When she was asked if Sean Colmes had had reached
out or if anybody reached out, she said yes, he
did try to reach out to her through FaceTime a
day or two later, and she kind of said that,
you know, she said she didn't want any problems.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
He didn't say much. He just kind of had his hands.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
On his head like this. She also testified that Cassie
came out of the room, out of her bedroom at
a certain point and said, did he dangle you over
a balcony?
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Almost in displa.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
To Sidney Summer joining US Crime Stories, investigative reporter, we
also learned, and you're writing down every significant thing that
happens in the court room, didn't. She go on to
talk about nightmares and night terrors that she had as
a result of that incident.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
Absolutely, Nancy. She said that she would wake up screaming
or her partner would overhear her screaming in her sleep,
and this is something that has severely affected her going forward.
She says over time that that PTSD has seemed to
lessen a little bit, but it took a very long
time to get back to a place of feeling secure,
(20:45):
and she said she was terrified to go to police
like he did. She was so afraid of the violence
escalating that she didn't want to report this or talk
about it with anyone.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace, you know, Philip Debay is
joining me veteran trial lawyer, out of the LA jurisdiction debate.
We're seeing a whole another animal right now. We've heard
about beatings and draggings and yankee people by their hair
(21:26):
and kicking them, and that's something that a lot of
people see, whether it's in the movies, whether they've seen
it in real life, but dangling someone off a seventeenth
floor balcony. That's a whole nother thing that really can't
(21:47):
be made up.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
No, of course not. But how I would play it
if I were his counsel, is, like you said earlier,
is it real or is it just real testimony? Because
if you remember, it came out that she was hooked
on ketamine and all kinds of other drugs that are
various types of anesthetics that put you in a trance
like state, almost in.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
A twilight state.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
So who really knows what, if anything, she accurately members
and it.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Is nae, Cassie, we're doing drugs. Where do you think
they got those drugs?
Speaker 9 (22:18):
Debate, Let's give them that, Let's pretend, let's really pretend
he was applying them with dope. It is not his
mo to be defenestrating people. It's just simply not the case.
But I think for him better yet, is that just
because he is in a respondiat superior mob boss, he
(22:40):
can be acting in his individual maniacal capacity unmedicated. That
does not fall under RICO. It falls under state crimes,
and the statutes of limitation have run. So what the
Feds are doing is they're using RICO as an end
run around the state statutal limitations that local das blew.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Okay, you know what's interesting, I'm gonna try to pretend
I didn't hear anything. Do they just say because it
was like ye, Lynn Shaw is joining me, Founder and
director of Lynn's Warriors, committed to ending sex abuse and
sex trafficking on women and girls. You know what, every
time we hear about a pimp branding, let's go with
(23:24):
branding a victim or threatening her in some bizarre way,
or torturing her in some unorthodox manner. And I came
up with branding because of a famous case we were
just investigating where all of the victims were branded, and
(23:48):
it really sticks out in your mind because it's unusual.
You don't hear of it very often. But actually, what
Shaw Colms Is accused of doing here is no bad
are than what pamps do to women under their control.
Speaker 10 (24:06):
What we're forgetting here in all of this discussion is
we saw that woman on the video, you know, calling
out how great ditty is and I'm paraphrasing a little bit.
And alleged crimes. We know all this, but how about
you know what's being lost here? All of the women
and victims, and not only of ditties, because every single
day at my organization and other coalition organizations across the
(24:28):
United States, guess what, Nancy, we have to put out
statements to all of our survivors around the country's country
because they're so triggered from hearing all of this.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
And on top of it, I.
Speaker 10 (24:38):
Want to point out, Anthony, I hope you're booked to
testify or something. I hope they have some trauma bonding
specialists going in there, psychoanalysts, psychologists to explain about this
trauma bonding, trauma vulnerable witnesses. And let me also point out,
I don't want to hear about drugs. You know why
because anybody who is addicted and these Cassie herself admitted drugs, drugs, drugs,
(25:03):
and you know what, they will do anything to stay
by that person who will supply the drugs, including taking beatings,
doing crimes for them. So we've got to turn this
around and we've got to support victims across the country
in this story because I'm getting tired of every single
day I don't know how to explain it to them,
and we're a week four, they're asking what's going on?
They are so triggered, and we have lawyers all over
(25:24):
televisions and online talking about things, putting ideas out there.
This case cannot be sex trafficking. It's not going to
be you know, manact this, that and the other thing.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
It better darn.
Speaker 10 (25:33):
Well be reco case criminal enterprise, because you know what,
the only thing in my mind that makes all of
this stick is no matter what happens at the end
of the day is that Cassie video and that hotel hallway,
and that's all I hope they convictim. That's myst on that.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
You know, the more the defense objects to any particular
line of questioning, the more sensitive it is. Right, the
more you scream the dentist office is because that's somewhat
hurts right there on that particular tooth. And they went
after this witness tooth and nail. To Lauren Kamlin, there
(26:11):
was quite quite a cross examination of her on the stand.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
What happened during Nicole Westmoreland's cross examination of Rihanna Bongolan.
She also got her to say that after a week
after the alleged balcony incident, Rihanna was going to private
parties with Sean Colmes and she was actually texting back
and forth with Passy a few days later about having
a sleepover. So Wes Morland said to her, you know,
(26:38):
this horrible thing happened to you, and a week later,
you're willing to go back and have a sleepover.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
And Bongolan just said, I guess so. And there was
some tense moments going back and forth.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Because of her original civil suit, she did fire her attorney,
Tyrone Blackburn. He came up a number of times today
because she said that he kind of misinterpreted what she
said and alleged some kind of sexual assault happened or
did he groped her when lifting her up as he
allegedly dangled her. And Wes Moreland said, well, you know
(27:14):
you fired Blackburn, but you still perpetuated this this lie.
So to speak with your other attorneys in that lawsuit
and your new updated lawsuit as well, did you not?
And you know, she kind of said, well, I didn't
write all of that in the new lawsuit. My attorneys did.
So it was just a lot of back and forth
about that and very tense. I'm not going to say
(27:36):
it was hostile, but it was. It was uncomfortable and
it was aggressive. And it was a lot of can
you rephrase this? Can you rephrase that? And I think
that was just causing just some discomfort in the gallery.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
I guess it was tedious.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
It was long, but I would say the points were
well taken and the cross was well taken.
Speaker 11 (27:57):
Row Busts didty Bucks did? He allegedly paid off an
employee millions and millions of dollars to keep these victims quiet.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
These used to throwing money at any situation to get
what he wants.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
One hundred thousand dollars, didty Bucks? We don't live at
the courthouse. Standing by is investigative reporter Lauren Conlin. Let's
go straight to the Monahan courthouse. Lauren Conlin, we just
brought up in conversation drug use where Dubet tries to
victim blame the victims here and Cassie claiming that they
(28:39):
were on drugs. Well, maybe they were, but even a
woman on drugs can be abused, or a woman that's
had a drink can be abused, or a woman that
wore a short skirt or went jogging by herself, or
walked from the target to her car in the parking
deck and got kidnapped. All of those people that did
something wrong can become victims. What can you tell me
(29:04):
about drugs being discussed in the courtroom?
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Wes Moreland also really focused on the heavy drug use
that Cassie and.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Bonglin once partook in.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
We talked about drugs for a significant amount of time
and in my opinion, that was just to remind the
jury that maybe her memory is not so great after
doing so many drugs.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
But overall it was.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Sad to watch her on the stand.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
She really seemed to have some PTSD over this incident.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And who wouldn't and what is that, doctor Bethany Marshall.
PTSD wells.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Traumatic stress disorder is when somebody has had such a
traumatic event that no prior learning can equip them or
prepare them to handle the situation. Flashbacks, avoidance of anything
that reminds them of the dreaded situation, tearfulness, isolation.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Numbing, Nancy.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I think the numbing is particularly important because women who
are sex trafficked often become addicted to drugs by their johns,
and they are primed for addiction because they're trying to
numb out to tolerate the abuse, and these dreams, these
night terrors, are a flashback, and we think of the
(30:18):
avoidance which is the primary hallmark of PTSD. These women
are primed to go through the rest of their life
avoiding relationships, conflict, anything that could remind them of all
the trauma and the abuse that they suffered.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Speaking of drugs, whatever happened to the drug mule that
allegedly worked for Sean comes Where is he in this scenario? Listen?
Speaker 12 (30:43):
While Sean Combs's legal troubles are far from over, his
so called drug mule has completed the requirements of his
plea deal and all charges against him have been dropped.
Brendan Paul faced charges for possession of both cocaine and
marijuana when he was caught with the substances on Diddy's
private jet back in March, but as a first time offender,
Paul was allowed to enter a pre trial diversion program
(31:06):
with the benefit of a clean record on successful completion.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I wonder if Brendan Paul is going to be part
of the state's case regarding Sean Combs as drugs and
here it is you're blaming the victims for allegedly using drugs,
but yet nobody's saying who supplied them. The drugs, where'd
they come from? And in the last hours we have
heard for the first time about GHB gamma hydroxy butyrate
(31:33):
being given to a victim. We heard that at the
get go when this was all just swirling as gossip
speaking of drugs. No one can get out of their
mind the mansion raid video. This is for our friends
at TMZ. Now, isn't it true, Sidney Sumner drugs were
(31:55):
found during the raid?
Speaker 8 (31:56):
Yes, Nancy, there were a good number of drugs recovered
from Sean Diddy Combe's Miami mansions. Now, this property is
actually two separate houses that Sean Combs has combined into
one large estate. And there were.
Speaker 13 (32:14):
Pills, powders, and my personal favorite was a giant green
trunk that had Diddy written on the side of it
that was stock full of marijuana and marijuana associated products.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, and he was said Diddy on it. Okay, who's
going to claim, oh, that's not mine. It has his
name on it. For Pete's sake. I mean, how vain,
Rob shooter, you got your drug bag with your name
engraved on it?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Really stupid, absolutely stupid. Now I was looking at that
footage though, did he was a real neat freak. So
that is not how his office would be. If you
looked at my office, it might look a little like
that even without a rage, but did he was very,
very neat, and so this is not how his office
would have So they really searched, They really looked deeply
in there, and they found what I think are the goods.
(33:06):
And ultimately, now his name's on it. It was in
his house. He's gonna own this.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Okay, So hey, look at all those tennis shoes. Man,
there's thousands and thousands of dollars. Again, this from my
friends at TMZ, my friend Harvey Levin, shooter, you very
carefully sidestepped any drug use you observed while while working
for Sean Combs.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I would never to me you, Nancy Grace. I would
tell you everything, anything you want ask.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Away comes use drugs, I would guess, Yes.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I didn't see him do drugs. There were times when
I was with him when when he was I didn't.
I really didn't. And there was times when you'd get
really odd texts emails from him. And now looking back,
I'm assuming that there's times he was on drugs. I
didn't see him do the.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Best part of it is shooter that when you saw
him it was for like a photo shoot or completing
his you know, videography everything that he was doing. But
it's very hard when you're hooked on drugs to separate it.
As a matter of fact, I wonder if you somehow
missed this shooter that Louis Vauton bag Shawn Colmes carried
(34:24):
with him everywhere. It was stuffed with viagra and similarly
potent form of viagra, ad built water, PIOLs, appeals to
increase his sperm count, cash, ecstasy, percocet. It goes on
and on, stuffed with it his Louis Vaton bag, and
(34:49):
we went everywhere with drugs. Yet now we're hearing an
attack on the victims because they may have used drugs.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
The hypocrisy is not lost on me. He did travel
with a bag. His assistant always had a bag. I
assumed it was grooming products. I really did. I sound
stupid and naive about it, but I didn't know that this.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Was a viagra an astroglide man Viagra and astro glide
crime stories with Nancy Grace to the Courthouse standing by
Lauren Conlin. Lauren, we also heard in detail from a videographer,
(35:32):
a video expert, Frank Piazza.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
What happened We heard from the government expert Frank Piazza,
who works for Legal and Audio Video. He's a forensic
video expert, and essentially his testimony for the government was
that he put together the surveillance footage from the Intercontinental
Hotel and the cell phone footage that we've seen previously.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
He put this together chronologically. He described why.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Certain things happen, why sometimes the time stamps get ahead.
He said that sometimes there are you know, thirty frames
in a second, but we're seeing twenty two. He explained that,
you know, when we are looking at this, he inserted
black spots or a black screen when seconds were skipped,
(36:23):
and these seconds were skipped due to motion sensors and
all of that type of forensic video stuff that a
lot of us don't understand, but we were really trying to.
But essentially, he wanted us to know that really nothing
was altered and the video is a good depiction of
what we saw in the hallway on March fifth, twenty sixteen,
(36:45):
which of course is the infamous video of Cassie being
tragically beaten.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
And Lauren Colin. Of course that did not stop the
defense from a vigorous cross examination, right what happened.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
When Tenny gerre goes to the examination. She just wanted
to point out certain things that maybe gipped ahead too much.
You know, there were five second differences in certain frames
because the motion sensor wasn't picking.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Up on any motion.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
So for example, we saw Diddy, you know, a bag
was in his hand and then the bag was dropped,
and this happened because five seconds were skipped because of
again a motion sensor. So she just wanted to make
it clear that certain angles we saw in this video,
things weren't quite as fast moving as it would seem
(37:36):
because of certain just issues because of the way that
the surveillance footage was was shot.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
It was an older system at the time.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
And again that testimony, I think a lot of us
were really focused on trying to understand it as well
as the jury joining me.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Now expert to break it all down for us. Todd Shipley,
digital cybercrime expert, former detectives argent with Reno PD, twenty
five years in LA law enforcement and author of Surviving
a Cyber Attack and Investigating Internet Crimes. Thank you for
being with us. You can find him at Dark Intel
(38:15):
Info Tasa Shipley. What is she saying? What were they
trying to do on.
Speaker 14 (38:21):
The stand, Well, the prosecution was trying to introduce the
film that was a video recording of a video recording
of what occurred, and so they successfully got it in.
The testimony wasn't really rebutted, although the defense tried to
set up that there were some issues with the film
itself and the timestamps, but all that was clearly defined
(38:43):
and identified by the witness to say that it's normal
behavior because of how the film was made, which was
a iPhone video of another video, and so they were
able to get it clearly introduced. And it's going to
be damning evidence along with all the other potential evidence
that exists, because there's ninety pieces of digital evidence that
are going to come in that the FBI has taken.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Where do you get the number ninety pieces, Well.
Speaker 14 (39:07):
It's been reported in the news that there's that many
pieces of evidence that were taken from the various search
warrants of his properties. So we'll see how whether that
all comes out, whether how much of it gets introduced,
But there's a lot of digital evidence potentially in this
case to reflect on what occurred.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
You know what, ton Shipley is a good thing the
state had this witness, Frank Piazza, on the stand, because
they could have just ented. Well they did, they introduced
the video already. But if they hadn't had that witness
on the stand, they could have used those glitches in
the video and claim that it had been tampered with
(39:47):
and it wasn't real. They could argue that in their
closing statements. So thank goodness they had Piazza right well exactly.
Speaker 14 (39:55):
I mean, he clearly identified why those things occurred and
how they occurred. And without his testimony, you're correct, they
would have said that there was a problem with the film,
and he shut down that whole defense that there was
a problem with the film. Unless they bring somebody else
on to dispute it, you know, it's going to stand
that the video is as was shown and there's you know,
(40:16):
not going to be defense against it.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Lauren Colin at the Courthouse, the one hand Courthouse, Laura,
I'm very curious about how the jury is reacting to
what's happening.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
I have to try so hard to not make any
type of expression or faith when I am watching that video.
I'm in a new spot today in the courtroom. So
I was observing the jury, and most of the jurors
still don't have a reaction to watching that video over
and over again, although there is one man that does
(40:47):
seemed very pained by it.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
He kind of has his head down, you know.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
You can kind of see him sort of shaking from
time to time.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
You hear that debate, it's the death nail. U c
a juror hanging their head during the testimony. It's the
death nail response.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
That's only one out of twelve.
Speaker 9 (41:18):
Remember, you got to get a dozen or a Baker's dozen.
Assuming you get one kicked and have to put in
an alternate one does not get you a verdict period.
If anything, that would be a defense win. And by
the way I have learned over the years, I do
not ever judge my success during a trial based on
the nodding remissing of a juror or notes at their take.
Speaker 14 (41:42):
As all the magic changes.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
One six, I'm hearing something from the courthouse. Oh yeah,
it's Diddy's death nail. We wait as justice unfolds, and
now we remember an American hero, Sergeant Floyd Miles, Charles
County Sheriff's Office passed away in a line of duty
and leaves behind grieving wife Denise and children Stephen Rashad
(42:10):
and Taekwon, American hero Floyd Miles. Nancy Grace signing off
goodbye friend,
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