June 12, 2025 • 42 mins
Prosecutors seek to remove one of the jurors — Juror No. 6 — who Sean "Diddy" Combs' defense lawyers claim is among the panel’s Black members. It’s not clear what’s behind the prosecution’s request, though it has cited a "lack of candor." " Maurene Comey, one of the prosecutors, says, "We did not want to do this. We were compelled to do that."
Combs ex-girlfriend identified by pseudonym "Jane" returns for her sixth day on the stand. Combs' defense has attacked Jane “up and down” trying to show she agreed to sex acts, by using Combs messages as alleged proof, according to prosecutors.
Prosecutors tell Judge Arun Subramanian the government expects to rest its case no later than a week from Friday and perhaps as early as Wednesday next week. One of the prosecutors, Maurene Comey, also states they will condense their case and soon will inform the court and defense which witnesses they will remove.
Joining Nancy Grace today:
- Greg Morse - Criminal Defense Attorney of Morse Legal, author of “The Untested” found on Amazon; website: morselegal.com
- Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker,” featured in hit show: "Paris in Love" on Peacock, www.drbethanymarshall.com , Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, Twitter: @DrBethanyLive
- Chris McDonough - Director At the Cold Case Foundation, Former Homicide Detective, Host of YouTube channel, "The Interview Room" www.coldcasefoundation.org/chris-mcdonough
- Lynn Shaw - Founder and Executive Director of Lynn's Warriors, Host of Lynn's Warriors on YouTube, website: lynnswarrior.org X: @lynns_warriors, YouTube: @LynnsWarriors
- Tisa Tells - Pop Culture Investigator & Commentator and Host of 'Tisa Tells' on Youtube, Instagram & TikTok: @TisaTellss, Facebook: Tisa.Tells.3
- Lauren Conlin - Podcaster/Reporter/Host- Co-Host of "PopCrimeTV" on YouTube, Website: www.popcrime.tv and primetimecrimeshow.com, X- @Conlin_Lauren, Instagram: @LaurenEmilyConlin, YouTube: @PopCrimeTV
- Sydney Sumner - CRIME STORIES Investigative Reporter
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
The Dirty Diddy trial in chaos as you'r six is
set to be kicked off for.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Lack of candor? What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
This as rhino erectile pills take center stage?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Sy Grease, this is Crime Stories. I want to thank
you for being with us.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Dirty Diddy? What the cook?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
The worst Netflix?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Until in the world? Did he the Diddler Saturday? Does
this have anything to do with that?
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Why does he stand in the corner and fiddle with
himself his small appendage?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Okay, this whole trial cannot be about Sean Comes' tutsie role.
But sadly rhino erectile pills are taking center stage. But
can we talk about what's happening with the testimony? First
joining me at the courthouse, Tisa Tals, pop culture investigator,
commentator and hosts of Tisa Tales on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Tisa thank you for braving the elements. What happened in
court today?
Speaker 5 (01:09):
What happened to court sent a shock wave. Jurassic looks
like they are going to be ejected. Everybody is wondering
why that is. You know, yesterday the defense team tried
to make it into an issue they're trying to kick
off a jura, but unfortunately it doesn't really hold water
the prosecution once this guy gone, the defense is trying
(01:29):
truth and nail to keep them in. However, it is
shockwaves through the court.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
TASA tales, TSA tales, TSA listeners.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yes, race is an issue that has been appealed all
the way up to the United States Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So just tell it. Tell it just like it is, and.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I'll get into the law with Greg Morse, all right,
so just tell it.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Don't mince words. Go okay, all right?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Did this team is grasping at straws once again, And
I find it funny that's someone that is saying now
that they're trying to get black people kicked off the jury.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
I find it funny that Diddy is pulling the race card.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
We're literally just a month ago he had no black
people on his legal team.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Again, they're grasping at straws.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
They're trying to turn it into you're trying to persecute
a rich black billionaire. They're trying to turn it into
this is unjust again, much like the Mischaw motions. And
every time he's actually pulled out anything dealing with phrase
it looks like the judge is not falling forward and
Diddy's team is in meltdown mode about it.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Okay, Tasa tails John moves.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Try it out to a veteran trial lawyer, and if
you could just for this one time, please, Greg Morse,
take your defense hat off and let's talk about bats
and Vie Kentucky. Greg Morris joining me. Veteran veteran criminal
defense attorney at Morse Legal. He's the author of Untested
on Amazon at morselegal dot com. He's won a lot
of cases. Of course they're all guilty, but that said,
(03:01):
he got them off. Now, Morse, let me talk to
you about bats of the Kentucky. Okay, which turns into
us the Batson. It was the Kentucky case where the
state prosecuted Batson and the prosecution was accused of throwing
people off the jury simply because they were black.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's unconstitutional. You can't do that. You have to have
a legitimate reason for throwing a.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Jerr off, and that's got to be articulated by either side.
If asked, when I trucked jury's I had a note,
copious notes beside each jurrr that I interviewed. So if
I didn't like them, for instance, somebody that didn't have
a job, I don't like that. I like somebody that
could show up on time and do what they're supposed
(03:47):
to do.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I e. Deliberate.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I don't want anybody that's had a conviction. I don't
want anybody whose family members have had a conviction. I
don't want anybody that hates the police. And there's a
whole list of things I don't want on the jury.
Right so here, at this juncture, the state's already put
this person on the jury. They had to do something
since the inception of the evidence that has concerned the state,
(04:13):
and we are hearing Greg Moore's quote lack of candor.
In other words, they weren't completely truthful about something.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
And that's exactly what it is. It was most likely
something in the jury selection process. Vad deer it's called
and the bats and challenge we agree on. That's exactly
what it is. You have to have a race neutral
reason and you have to show there wasn't a pattern
to exclude jurors based on race or sexual orientation. And
it's a very easy stand, as you pointed out, to overcome.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
That's all Joy's selection.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
But the defense is just dovetailing onto what they argued
in Vader to challenge them, trying to get Jordan number
six off right now. So they're powering forward their bats
in argument to Hey, this just is what they've been
trying to do the whole time, and they're continuing now
in the middle of trial. I am surprised that the
judge said he would that the judge said that it
(05:07):
would decide on Friday this issue. In my experience of
twenty five years, judges deal with this issue right away
because it's serious that they're going to remove a drawer
and put an alternate in their place. So I don't
know why it's going on.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Okay too of tales joining us outside of the Monahan
Federal Courthouse. What more can you tell me about him?
Have you been watching him? Has he done anything unusual?
And I'm very curious about how this is bubbled up.
How does the state know he has had a quote
lack of candor.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I think we all know what that means. Where's this
coming from?
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Listen, everybody is saying that it is some type of
paperwork issue. Of course, if it was something more the
judge wouldn't even hear arguments, but see.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
N O and nobody's getting thrown off the jury for
a paperwork issue.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I don't even know what that is, you know what.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
But with the lack of candor, it could be something
with immigration, it could.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Be height about his job.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
But more importantly, it could be some type of link
and what I accuse a juror of doing something imputing
absolutely nut. But to God, to think about Diddy, Diddy
is the one that is driving this case, and I
believe Diddy is the one that is driving the prosecution
or worries. Again, who exactly was Diddy nodding to? Who
(06:16):
exactly was Diddy thinking he was connecting to? Again at
the end.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
Of the day, Lord dear, well, there you go, there
you go, There you go, Tisa, Was this the gior
gar number six with whom Sean Combs is connecting?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Okay, that could be it. I don't know how that
fits in with the claim of lack of candor. Okay,
I'm gonna get into the whole Gurr being thrown off,
which could create chaos in the courtroom. I can tell
you that from having challenged grars in the past, and
we've seen.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
How trials have gone off the rails.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
When jurrs start to disappear one by one by one,
then you're in a whole world of trouble.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
If you went out of grrrs, the case is over.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Combs is allowed twelve grars impartial grars his peers, and
if he doesn't get twelve it gets down to eleven,
it's over.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
It's a mistrial. That's what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
The other problem is if there's anything done incorrectly or
inappropriately with taking this jar off, you have reversible error.
So the state is walking tightrope right now, Can we
talk about rhino pills?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
What are they and what do they have to do
with this case? Tisa tells.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Apparently, rhinal pills are something that helped Jane Doe get
over the discust of.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Having to perform for her partner. Now, listen, rhinyl pills
came up.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
I had to go and look it up, and it's
something that has sold over the counter at sex shops.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
It's supposed to make you strong like bull.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
But also Jane Doe said that she just wanted to
grip her eyes and get it over with. Now.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
The funny thing is.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
When she said that there was a visible, well, we
saw a visible reaction from Sean Colms. He seemed like
he was very, very insulted and maybe even a little
enbraged at the implication that the sex she.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Could do without.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
She said that she even bought them matching shorts because
to see them standing in their own shorts and their
own underwear, it was just a bad look. She felt
disgusted by it, so she bought the rhinyl pills to
make the.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Performer go quicker again.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
It's funny when you saw Sean Colms's body language, he
was agitated and he was insulted again. As much as
they're trying to humiliate our little bunny rabbit, Shawn Colms
is the only one that is actually being humiliated. I
can't imagine a man that powerful into perversion, into just
dominating and controlling, finds out that his lover just wanted
(08:50):
to get it over with because all she wanted was
filmed the holder that was his value to her.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Now, this is what I know. Straight out to doctor
Bethany Marshall joining us. Psychoalys out of the La Jersey,
Authorugh of deal Breakers on Amazon. You can see her
now on Peacock she's at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com
Doctor Bethany Rhino erectile pills. Okay, I don't know a
lot about the male psyche, but I know for some
reason they don't want you to know they're taking rhino
(09:17):
erectile pills.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Where do you get them? Okay?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Walmart, gas stations, convenience stores. You know, when you go
up to pay for your gas. I don't know if
you make somebody else do that for you, but I
have to go pay for my own gas.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And they have like gensing and energy drinks.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
And all sorts of OTC over the counter cure awls
and miracle drinks and drugs. That's where they are rhino
erectile pills.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And I don't know if they're FDA approved, I doubt it.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And they improve stamina, increase erections, and extend the time
of intercourse. Marketed under various names like Crazy Rhino twenty
five thousand, Platinum Rhino twenty five thousand, and so on
and so.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Oh, lack of FDA approval. Okay, that's not good.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But why as you heard Tisa Tales talk about how
Shawn Combs acted embarrassed, what exactly was he doing when
rhino pills came up Tisa tales. How do you know
he was humiliated?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Well, first he leaned in like he was a little
bit angry, right, he looked to his side. Then he
realized what she was actually saying, and that she continued,
and then he did the courthouse shuffle, looking at the screen,
looking down, praying and wishing that this moment would actually pass.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Okay, Bethany jump in.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
Okay, you missed the fact that rhino pills last eight
times longer than viagra, which I think is interesting. But
think about this. P Diddy orchestrates the entire scene. He's
in control of everything, from ordering the escorts, putting him
on a plane, paying for the matching shorts, which sounds
like a slumber party for two year olds personally, But
(11:01):
the fact that Jane actually controlled an aspect of the narrative.
She wanted those guys to get erections as soon as
possible so she could get it over with Nancy, which
to me speaks to coercion and take. Garret Go's questioned
her about this and said, well, if you didn't want
to do these hotel scenes or these freak offs, why
(11:23):
would you give somebody a male enhancement pill. She thought
that was counterintuitive, but actually it made sense to me
that the quicker the guy gets the erection, the quicker
she can get it all over with. But you know, Pete,
he didn't like this because not only is that humiliating,
but it shows that he was not in control of
the entire scene like he thought he was.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Okay, listen to this, doctor, Bethany.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Adverse effects chess pain, headaches, prolonged erections, sometimes requiring surgical intervention.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
What is it really worth it, Bethanie, Just you have
to go to the hospital to get rid of it.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
I've heard of this in my practice from a couple
of men who use these kinds of pills and they
ended up in the er with painful erections that lasted
four hours. In fact, one actually had to call nine
to one. One was transported to the er, and after
the fact he said, this was not worth it. But
it was that chase for that sexual high. And that's
what you see with this entire operation, that p Diddy
(12:26):
is chasing that next sexual high. And when we think
about sex addiction, Nancy, it's really important to understand that
sex addicts want to stay in a prolonged state of
excitement for as long as possible, so they usually delay
ejaculation so that the scene can go on and on.
And the idea that the rhino pills were introduced to
(12:47):
get it over with undercuts the whole motivation of these.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Freak offs for p. Diddy, which is to keep it
going four hours.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Okay, let's talk about that. Tasa tails joining me outside
the Monahand Federal Courthouse. I never thought that this would
be the topic of my legal discussion when I was
slaving away on law review.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
But it is. That's where we're at.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Where in the middle of the shaw Comes multi count
federal indictment trial in a federal courthouse taste of tales,
I heard testimony that some of the hotel knights, and
that's certainly a euphemism, would last up to thirty hours.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Thirty hours with positions, positions.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Held for three four hours.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
While this man, imagine it, a man dressing a burger
from the neck up and neck it from the neck down,
is running around telling you hold it right there, arch,
you're back breathe in.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
He directed it like the most ceday.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, where did
you get those directives, hold that position, arch your back,
what breathe in, what so.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
In Cassie's testimony and also in Jane Doe's testimony, I
believe Cassie went a little bit more in depth, but
Jane Doe went into death too, like he would tell
her to hold position so hours, so much so that
she actually got issues were going with her back, but
going to the doctor and going to the chiropractor. Again,
when you talk about wanting to extend whatever sick arousal
(14:16):
he's in, he went out of this way. So again,
the freakos weren't just like bam bam bam, thank you, ma'am.
He literally treated them like he was a cracked out
Loki in the Marvel universe telling.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
People what to do.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Again, it goes into the audacity, and I see why
she was right there saying, listen, give me all the
blue Rhino pills you have in the world, because I
want to get this over with and maybe even somebody
going too far and having to go to the hospital
would be a better outcome than having to hold one
leg up for hours at a time.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Okay, did you actually hear testimony that one leg was
up for hours at a time?
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Not one leg up, but arching the back, arching the back,
holding position. There was something about the way that he
wanted them the whole position and arch the back again.
They said it went through the comtuity. They were not
allowed to do anything in there except what he told
them to do.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
This goes into the role play. But he would even.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Tell the sex workers how to touch Jane and Cassie,
and also direct Cassie and the sex workers on how
to touch them. And anytime it went off the rails,
he would say, can I talk to you for a second.
He would take them into another room. Because it was
always a suite, there would be a separate bedroom.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
He would take them in another room. Sometimes he would
have sex with them.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Sometimes he would beat them to a pulp, and sometimes
he would break them so that the sex worker would
actually hear the bereat or the beating.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
And this goes into.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Cassie sex worker, where he literally said that he ended
up getting a rectile dysfunction because he couldn't take what.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Was happening in the other room whenever they displeased Diddy.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
So yes, it was directed from the beginning to the end,
and he was in complete control.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Both women have testified to.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
That doctor Bethony Marshall.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I mean, in my opinion, my legal opinion, him telling
her to arch her back and hold the position.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
He's asking for his very own dateline special.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
Yes he is Nancy, He's really using her like an object. Okay,
So Teddy Gerrigis was trying to paint a picture that
she wanted these freak COFs and she planned them. What
woman wants to have her back arched four hours on
and out, I'd want to go see the chiropractor. And
also the fact that she kept planning these freak COFs
because she thought P Diddy was in love with her
(16:37):
and she was in love with him. And Nancy coercion,
sex trafficking, It always happens in the context of an
attachment system.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
We are live at the Monahan Federal Courthouse. Outside the courthouse,
joining us Tisa tails commentator and host of TASA Tales
on YouTube, Tisa summarize what happened today. We know that
the state is nearing the end of its case. Pros
cons How did Jane do on the stand today?
Speaker 5 (17:07):
I gotta tell you, Jane did fantastic on the stand.
Our little bunny Rabbit sharpened her shank and pushed back.
I gotta tell you it was actually really weird. Tinny
Garrickle's in the court. She looked off her game. We've
seen her on Cross before. She is amazing, but there
was something about Jane Doe that had her off her game.
It was the way that she was clever again, not calculating,
(17:31):
but clever. And again I think she stood in her truth,
the fact that she was honest.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
I regret.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
I regret every seedy, disgusting thing he made me do
because I did it because I thought we were in
the relationship together. It's also interesting that as things move
forward again, they're handling her with kid gloves, and it
makes you wonder, could it be because up until April
she was meeting with Jane Doe, was meeting with Diddy
and his legal team all through April two thousand and
(18:01):
twenty five, and it makes you think maybe Jane.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Doe again, they don't want to open the door up
to anything. But again, she did amazing.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
She pushed back, and the prosecution is confident that they
will rest their case by Wednesday at the earliest, Friday
at the latest.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
And when they said that, it sent shockways.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Through the defense again, the prosecution is really confident, and
Jane Doe really shined through and really brought home the
sex trafficking through coersion, through fraud, and unfortunately also through violence.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Tasa Tales, you're right to Sean Comms, it's showtime. I
love doing that, ending my case abruptly when I knew
the defense wouldn't be ready to pick it up right then,
Oh yeah, we need you to say shockways, I've seen
that go through the defense. They're all sitting at the table.
You announce, okay, I'm ending early. The defense can start tomorrow,
(18:56):
and they are like, what, Tasa Tales, isn't it true?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
The defense on cross.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Examination, this woman has been on the stand, now what
twenty two twenty three hours. Didn't they try to paint
her to look like nothing more than a jealous girlfriend.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
They tried, but they fell flat because at the end
of the day, the prosecution did such a good job
a jealous girlfriend. Excuse me, you literally had me reenacting
my first portal for hours at a time, while by
the way, I couldn't wear condoms. They couldn't wear condoms.
But why, by the way, you're viciously beating me while
(19:33):
the way you're reenacting exits from the shining in real life. Again,
the fact that again they kept trying to trade a
Botaga bag and a bracelet or a necklace as an
excuse that someone would endure this type of the views.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
It fell flat.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
But again something was going on with the defense that
they seemed extremely off their game and they didn't know
how to handle Jane.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
That could be because Aane knows a lot more their
secrets then they'd like them to know who knows. But
again this was a.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Non starter with Jane as far as the cross examination,
So kudos to Jane for holding her.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Own crime stories.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
With Nancy Grace, we heard about a ATega bag Testales
told us about, and now we're hearing about a birthday
and a very expensive necklace and bracelet set listen.
Speaker 9 (20:35):
Jane does admit that Combs gave her thirteen thousand dollars
to spend on her birthday celebrations with friends and gifted
her a Van Cleef necklace and bracelet set Tenny year
ago shows Jane a photo she took in her new
jewelry moments before the three entertainers Combs hired arrived, suggesting
Jane was excited for what was to come. Jane says
she had just taken ecstasy and was happy about how
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the night had gone up until that point, testifying any
type of affection at this point in my life that
I received from Sean, I received with open arms.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
So that makes it all okay, Greg Morris, after he
beat her and subjected her to three male escorts on
her birthday, he gives her bracelet.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So it all just disappears.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Well again, Nancy, we're clearly watching two different trials because
the defense did a great job with Jane. Her testimony
was clearly justified dot com for bad decisions she's ashamed
of now. But again, not one thing in her testimony
supported sex trafficking, not one. She literally has the person
(21:37):
go to Turks and caicos. She asked for fifteen thousand
to take her friends out to dinner and get a
dress for herself.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
She loves him. I thought he loved me. Nothing has
changed in that.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Again, this is a battery case, and an aggravated battery
case masquerading as sex trafficking. I'm shocked the Southern District
of New York brought this case. I worked in New
York City. It is shocking to me that the US
Attorney's Office would bring this case because based on Jamee's testimony,
I'm not sure why she's not charged as a co conspirator.
Because filming a porn acting out your fantasies as a
(22:12):
rich person, because Sean Combs legitimately made his money, is
not like bad Boy Entertainment was created to have sex
with people or prostitutes. It is an incredibly successful business.
So he can act out his fantasies. It's not something
that most people would do it.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
That's what it is all about.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
A very instrebble man who's like worried about this, Okay,
his insecurities, Fine, act out your fantasies. I don't care
until they become a felony. You don't have to be
there a mob in order to be prosecuted under Rico.
(22:53):
You are familiar with the Rampart scandal. Are you not
where the LAPD the police Department was prosecuted under Rico
for corruption?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yes? No, are you familiar with the Rampart scandal?
Speaker 6 (23:09):
So it doesn't you're ignoring the direct testimony and you're inflating.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
No, you're ignoring the testimony of the beatings.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Her testimony was on the one point, Yes, I contacted
the escorts. She got caught in a lie by the
cross examination, but I knew that's what did he wanted
me to do. That is not sex trafficking. That is
not beyond to the exclusion of all reasonable doubt. And
you know as well as I do, Nancy Judges.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Read, I know.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I know that all these women, all of them, are
not lying.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
They're separated in time and space.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
We heard Jane describe her reaction when she heard Cassie
Ventura's complaint her lawsuit. No, she newly passed out because
she thought this happened to her too.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
You know what you do? I don't know. Apparently what
is the pimp Romeo scenario?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
And joining me an expert Lin Shaw is joining us.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Oh I still hear him.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I thought that was a NAT But it's Morse lin
Shaw joining me, director of Lyn's Warriors, committed to ending
human trafficking and sexploitation. Could you explain to Morse how
sex trafficking doesn't require beatings, which we have here. Shawn
comes knocking down four doors to get at Jane, to
beat her.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Multiple trips to the hospital.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
We have plastic surgery on Cassieventurira's gash in her face.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
What more do we need?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
But in addition to beatings coersion, what is the pimp
Romeo syndrome?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Lynshaw?
Speaker 10 (24:45):
I will remain calm and I will explain to Greg
what is happening now with sex trafficking victims. I am
here in New York City. The justice system is beginning
to look at these alleged victims and survivors of these
horrible attacks in a different light. That same old playbook,
Greg does not work anymore. Force fraud, coercion, trauma bonding.
(25:09):
You need a lesson in that Greg, trauma bonding, Please
go look it up. Triple M which is monster manipulator,
a master Triple d Dirty Diddy degenerate is a pimp
and a trafficker. In my personal opinion, I see this
over and over again. He gets these women to do anything.
They really think they're just it's called the Romeo effect.
(25:29):
We're talking about it day and night. He just gets
them to think they're the only one, they're the girlfriend.
They are psychologically attached to this alleged trafficker pimp in
my opinion, and they will do anything to please them.
And as they go down this road. They just keep
getting weaker and weaker and weaker. So I don't want
to hear about necklaces and trips and she's hiring sex
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workers or anything. This is a case of sex trafficking.
And again I'm going to point out the just system.
I'm very familiar with it right here in New York City.
New York State is beginning to look at these types
of situations in a different light. Hallelujah, because I'm tired
of everything that old playbook being on all of the
victims all the time. And here's what I have to say.
(26:15):
I don't care about anything we're hearing. You know what,
this is forest forward coercion. A lot of people are
complicit working. He's got a lot of disciples. Is dirty Diddy,
Dirty Diddy disciples. Everybody write that down. And you know what,
This is a case of criminal enterprise. This is a
case of rico. So let's just all agree that these
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women are not at fault.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
They are victims.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Straight back out to Bethany Marshall, Doctor Bethany Marshall joining
us out of La psychoanalyst.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I need to nail.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Down what is pimp Romeo and the thing I can
compare it to that, people may understand a little bit better.
Is the better women's syndrome where it's a cycle, right,
The husband partner whatever gives the woman flowers, gives her jewelry, apologizes,
I don't know what's wrong with me. I'm so sorry,
(27:08):
I was drunk, blah blah, filling the blank. Then that's
called the honeymoon phase. It tension builds. Nothing particular has
to be happening, but tension begins building, and then the
eruption where the beating, the massive beating takes place.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Then the honeymoon phase.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Same thing here, and the wife slash partner stays in
it because.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Of a number of reasons.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I don't want to break up the family, I need
the money, I don't have anywhere to go. I've got
to stay in this for the children until they graduate
high school, graduate college, get through middle school, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Fill in the blank. And the woman stays in it.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I think part of it is the woman's and it's
typically a woman. Yes, all of you always say men
can be beaten to Yes, sure they can, but it's
very rare. The woman has been conditioned, really since birth,
not me luckily to want this picture perfect Hallmark card
marriage with the family, and the Christmas tree and the
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Easter egg hunts and the blaw the blaw right. They
think that's going to happen, and it's so ingrained in them.
They choose to believe the partner, the husband for a
number of reasons. Maybe they don't have a job, maybe
they can't make a living. It could be any reason
they feel wrongly. They have to stay in it. Here
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there's always the carrot. There's the carrot and a stick
to make the horse run right. The carrot is I
love you, baby, You're just you're my crack pipe, Sean
Comes's words of My husband called me a crack pipe.
He would be in his own dateline special. But that said,
then there is the stick, the beatings. Either do it
(28:56):
because you love me, or do it because I beat yours?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Dick Romea, Why do they stay.
Speaker 8 (29:02):
You know, Nancy, Because these women want what all of
us want. They want to love and to be loved.
They do want the Christmas holidays, They do want the families,
of course they do. And these pimp Romeo guys are
so seductive at the beginning. They do as you describe.
They offer gifts, they kind of. They're very manipulative. They
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tell the woman how beautiful she is, but soon that underbelly,
that dark side emerges, where the woman is just treated
like an object, and whenever she tries to break away,
the man manipulates even more, and eventually, when the manipulation
doesn't work, he uses violence. And we can see this
in a very heartbreaking way in Jane's testimony yesterday, where
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she describes wanting to go out with him alone for
her birthday, and she doesn't want to have the dinner
at No Boo because No Boo is at a hotel
and she knows if they go there there'll be a
freak off, So she begs to go to others restaurants
so she can be alone with her sweetheart. So you
can see here the beginning of the pimp Romeo syndrome
where she actually has deluded herself into thinking they have
(30:09):
a true relationship. So they do go to Nobu and
on one of these dinners, what happens. He has three escorts,
male escorts waiting in another room. Can you imagine going
on on a date with somebody you think, you know,
it's all lovey dovey, and all of a sudden three
prostitutes jump out of the next room. I mean that
is really, I think a snapshot into this relationship and
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the abusive aspects where I'm like, he wasn't taking her
out to dinner. He was just manipulating and coercing her
to get her to have sex with other guys. And
you can see this all throughout her testimony, story after story,
and one more heartbreaking aspect Nancy is that when he
was coercing her to do these freakofs, he was taking
other women to the met Gala, to Turks and caicos
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in these women did not have to do the freakoffs.
Objectivity that she was the sex slave waiting at home
while he was out in public with these other women.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, he got really really angry.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Sidney Sumner joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter Sidney, He
got really angry when Jane posted a photo of Comes
and Jane out having dinner somewhere, and she would sit
on the fringes watching and looking at all the other
social media where other women would post being out with him.
(31:31):
But when she posted something, he forced her to take
it down and got really angry.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Nancy Combe's face wasn't even in that photo. It was
a picture of the dish that she had while they
were out to dinner together, and he said, you need
to delete that because somebody could figure out that we
were together that night because of your post. What a
weird even outright photos just hint that they're I wack together,
(31:59):
Sidney Sumner.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Don't move, don't move, Sidney Bethany. He got mad over
a picture of a salad.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
Really, you know, at the same at the same as
my elbow at the same time, Nancy. He went on
a new podcast with Young Miami and was talking about
intimate details of their sexual relationship. All the while he
wouldn't even let Jane.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Post a picture of food.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
So if that is not, in a way some form
of modern slavery, I don't know. Somebody gets chained in
the basement while somebody gets treated with special favors, or
like families where one child is chosen to be abused
and starved and the other children are loved. I think
this is sort of a broad pattern not only of
exploitation and of coercion, but profound devaluation of Jane. So
(32:47):
she gets in a position where she is so devalued
she doesn't feel she has rights anymore.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I understand that Greg Morris is gnashing his teeth and
switching his tail.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
What's your problem?
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Well, it's interesting that you know, I've never heard of
sex traffic victims go to NOBU one night, then go
on their own this notion.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
All the testimony that's been given so far from Jane
and Cassie's own mouth, is that they thought this was
going to be a path to whatever in their career.
Maybe Cassie doesn't sing that well and she thought this
would work. Jane wanted to have nice things. No, but
you're conflating so many things that's relevant to the corner fall. Remember, Nancy,
(33:32):
you're right, you just don't like anything about.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
The pamp Romeos nothing.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
I heard doctor Marshall described was a domestic battery situation,
and that's what this is.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
That's what I've been saying. This is not trafficking, it's
not even closed.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
No, but you're watching different cases. You're just upset that,
as usual, the is right over the prosecution.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
You think I'm something new.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
You already said that we're watching different cases. Sydney Sumner
got a question for you. Let's get down to some
breast tacks here. Isn't it true that today during a
discussion regarding evidence amongst the lawyers, we find out about
two more recorded phone calls from King Combs. Shawn Combs himself.
(34:21):
He doesn't make Christina Korum do his dirty work. He
gets on the phone himself. What's the significance of that
phone call with Jane?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Well, Nancy, we heard one phone call after their twenty
twenty three trip to Turks and Tacos, where Jane says
that Combs sprung another hotel night on her and then
offense had a good point here. Jane had reached out
to a entertainer before they even left, intending to invite
(34:49):
him on the trip, So they did make a good
point there. But we hear a phone call after that
where they're exchanging loving messages about how much fun they
had on this trip. On Combs calls Jane his crack pipe.
You don't know if that's supposed to be romantic, but
we heard that he had such a good time with
(35:09):
her and that he's so addicted to being with her
that he was going to call her his crack pipe.
Going forward, the.
Speaker 11 (35:17):
Jury heard of voicemail comes left Jane in response to
her loving text messages calling her his crack pipe. Combs
expressed how much fun he had with Jane on their
twenty twenty three Turks and Keiko's trip and told Jane
to get her rest and informing her of his newest
nickname for her, quote, you are the crack pipe. That's
my new name for you, crack pipe. I'm going to
(35:40):
call you crack pipe. Very good time together.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
That's all well and good to hear it from a reporter,
but let's hear it from the horse's mouth.
Speaker 12 (35:50):
Hey baby, we had a great time staying the light.
It's all good. Get your arrests. You are the crack pipe.
That's my new name for your crack pipe. Should I
call you CP? But yeah, I don't. I want you
to stay in the light. You know what I'm saying.
(36:10):
We had a very very good time together. Yeah, I
had a great time, and I really really want you
to get some rest. I ain't know about you're throwing
up and all that. That's when I was like, hold
up a second, I get some rest, baby.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Love crime stories with Nancy Grace. Hey baby, we had
a great time.
Speaker 12 (36:37):
Stay in the light. It's all good. Get your rest.
You are the crack pipe. That's my new name for
your crack pipe? Should I call you CP? But yeah,
I don't. I want you to stay in the light.
You know what I'm saying. We had a very very
good time together. Yeah, I had a great time, and
(37:01):
I really really want you to get some rest. I
ain't know about you're throwing up and all that. That's
when I was like, hold up a second, I get
some reci.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Love joining me an all star panel straight out to
Chris McDonough, joining us director at the Cold Case Foundation,
former homicide detective and for my purposes, former vice.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
You can find him.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Now at the interview room on YouTube. Chris McDonough, I'm
going to call you CP, crack pipe. Really, could you
help me explain to Greg Morse this is the same
way that pimps treat the women that get out and
(37:43):
make twenty five dollars a trick for them. They beat
them if they have to. That's the stick. Then they
use the carrot. They'll go to dollartry and buy them
a new shirt, or they'll buy them a cheeseburger.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Believe it or not.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
That's really that's some real cases that I have prosecuted
that's the carrot.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
That's how it works. Works.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
But in this case it's a but take a bag
or a diamond bracelet that you get some birthday sushi
and you're like, oh my stars, he loves me.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
It's sick.
Speaker 13 (38:17):
Yeah, it is, Nancy.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I mean, this guy's classic.
Speaker 13 (38:20):
I mean, think about Burke, a boy sitting in the corner,
you know, butt naked from the neck down, and he's,
you know, inflicting pain visually and physically on a victim
in front of him and to him, she has no
existence other than his existence. And to think his existence
right now has been reduced to zoo pills, rhino pills,
(38:46):
purchase an encounter of your local sex shop. You know
what he reminds me of. We remember the old X
rated boots in these old shops where you know, you
could walk in there, you.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Pull the curtain back. There they are.
Speaker 13 (39:01):
That is p Diddy, And the difference with him is
he just has some bucks behind his lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Chris mcdonah, it's I think it's hard for a lot
of people to see that he is really no different
from a thug pimp that beats the women. As a
matter of fact, Chris, look at your screen. Look at
your monitor. I want to show you the photos of
the doors that were attacked by Sean Combs. There's one
(39:29):
that was cracked in. Look at that actually cracked and
fort kicked in. Look at that. There were four doors
that were broken in by him to get to a victim, Jane,
to beat her. So you've got the beatings where he says,
(39:50):
just put on some makeup and get out there. Quit vomiting,
get out there.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
There's that. Then you've got the diamond bracelet.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
So how can you just see the diamond bralet and
not see the beatings?
Speaker 13 (40:03):
Well exactly, and we can see the beatings. Is persona
is Hey, look at me. I'm a good guy, but
behind the scenes he's violent.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Joining us Sidney Sumner Crime Stories investigative reporter, Sidney, bring
me up to date regarding Jane's testimony. It's been I
think five days, twenty plus hours of her on the
stand and now the state drops a bomb in the
court room setting.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Oh yeah, we're finishing, that's.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Right, Nancy. So Jane has been on the stand for
quite some time now. Defense attorneys have had quite a
time trying to disprove what she said under cross examination,
but after Jane, we are expected to just have a
few more witnesses. Prosecutors say they are cutting down their
witness list and now plans to wrap slightly earlier than
(40:55):
they intended. They always predicted about six weeks to make
their case and that should be exactly what we hit
by the end of next week.
Speaker 14 (41:04):
February of twenty twenty three was the first time Jane
claims she threatened to withhold hotel nights from Combs. Jane
says she threw the hotel night card when she realized
Colmbs had taken another girlfriend on a beautiful birthday vacation
while Jane spent her birthday having sex with three escorts.
Jane says that at her threat of refusing future hotel nights,
including one plan for Valentine's Day, Combs left the vacation
(41:26):
a day early. Their Valentine's plans did proceed, with Jane
having sex with two entertainers at the same time.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
We remember an American hero, Detative Sergeant Mason Griffith, just
thirty four, shot and killed in the line of duty,
leaving behind a grieving wife. Jennifer Sons, Trevor and Jason.
American hero to take a Sergeant Mason Griffith Nancy Grace
(41:53):
signing off goodbye friend,
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
The Dirty Diddy trial in chaos as you'r six is
set to be kicked off for.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Lack of candor? What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
This as rhino erectile pills take center stage?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Sy Grease, this is Crime Stories. I want to thank
you for being with us.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Dirty Diddy? What the cook?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
The worst Netflix?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Until in the world? Did he the Diddler Saturday? Does
this have anything to do with that?
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Why does he stand in the corner and fiddle with
himself his small appendage?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Okay, this whole trial cannot be about Sean Comes' tutsie role.
But sadly rhino erectile pills are taking center stage. But
can we talk about what's happening with the testimony? First
joining me at the courthouse, Tisa Tals, pop culture investigator,
commentator and hosts of Tisa Tales on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Tisa thank you for braving the elements. What happened in
court today?
Speaker 5 (01:09):
What happened to court sent a shock wave. Jurassic looks
like they are going to be ejected. Everybody is wondering
why that is. You know, yesterday the defense team tried
to make it into an issue they're trying to kick
off a jura, but unfortunately it doesn't really hold water
the prosecution once this guy gone, the defense is trying
(01:29):
truth and nail to keep them in. However, it is
shockwaves through the court.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
TASA tales, TSA tales, TSA listeners.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yes, race is an issue that has been appealed all
the way up to the United States Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So just tell it. Tell it just like it is, and.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I'll get into the law with Greg Morse, all right,
so just tell it.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Don't mince words. Go okay, all right?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Did this team is grasping at straws once again, And
I find it funny that's someone that is saying now
that they're trying to get black people kicked off the jury.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
I find it funny that Diddy is pulling the race card.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
We're literally just a month ago he had no black
people on his legal team.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Again, they're grasping at straws.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
They're trying to turn it into you're trying to persecute
a rich black billionaire. They're trying to turn it into
this is unjust again, much like the Mischaw motions. And
every time he's actually pulled out anything dealing with phrase
it looks like the judge is not falling forward and
Diddy's team is in meltdown mode about it.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Okay, Tasa tails John moves.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Try it out to a veteran trial lawyer, and if
you could just for this one time, please, Greg Morse,
take your defense hat off and let's talk about bats
and Vie Kentucky. Greg Morris joining me. Veteran veteran criminal
defense attorney at Morse Legal. He's the author of Untested
on Amazon at morselegal dot com. He's won a lot
of cases. Of course they're all guilty, but that said,
(03:01):
he got them off. Now, Morse, let me talk to
you about bats of the Kentucky. Okay, which turns into
us the Batson. It was the Kentucky case where the
state prosecuted Batson and the prosecution was accused of throwing
people off the jury simply because they were black.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's unconstitutional. You can't do that. You have to have
a legitimate reason for throwing a.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Jerr off, and that's got to be articulated by either side.
If asked, when I trucked jury's I had a note,
copious notes beside each jurrr that I interviewed. So if
I didn't like them, for instance, somebody that didn't have
a job, I don't like that. I like somebody that
could show up on time and do what they're supposed
(03:47):
to do.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I e. Deliberate.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I don't want anybody that's had a conviction. I don't
want anybody whose family members have had a conviction. I
don't want anybody that hates the police. And there's a
whole list of things I don't want on the jury.
Right so here, at this juncture, the state's already put
this person on the jury. They had to do something
since the inception of the evidence that has concerned the state,
(04:13):
and we are hearing Greg Moore's quote lack of candor.
In other words, they weren't completely truthful about something.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
And that's exactly what it is. It was most likely
something in the jury selection process. Vad deer it's called
and the bats and challenge we agree on. That's exactly
what it is. You have to have a race neutral
reason and you have to show there wasn't a pattern
to exclude jurors based on race or sexual orientation. And
it's a very easy stand, as you pointed out, to overcome.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
That's all Joy's selection.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
But the defense is just dovetailing onto what they argued
in Vader to challenge them, trying to get Jordan number
six off right now. So they're powering forward their bats
in argument to Hey, this just is what they've been
trying to do the whole time, and they're continuing now
in the middle of trial. I am surprised that the
judge said he would that the judge said that it
(05:07):
would decide on Friday this issue. In my experience of
twenty five years, judges deal with this issue right away
because it's serious that they're going to remove a drawer
and put an alternate in their place. So I don't
know why it's going on.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Okay too of tales joining us outside of the Monahan
Federal Courthouse. What more can you tell me about him?
Have you been watching him? Has he done anything unusual?
And I'm very curious about how this is bubbled up.
How does the state know he has had a quote
lack of candor.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I think we all know what that means. Where's this
coming from?
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Listen, everybody is saying that it is some type of
paperwork issue. Of course, if it was something more the
judge wouldn't even hear arguments, but see.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
N O and nobody's getting thrown off the jury for
a paperwork issue.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I don't even know what that is, you know what.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
But with the lack of candor, it could be something
with immigration, it could.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Be height about his job.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
But more importantly, it could be some type of link
and what I accuse a juror of doing something imputing
absolutely nut. But to God, to think about Diddy, Diddy
is the one that is driving this case, and I
believe Diddy is the one that is driving the prosecution
or worries. Again, who exactly was Diddy nodding to? Who
(06:16):
exactly was Diddy thinking he was connecting to? Again at
the end.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
Of the day, Lord dear, well, there you go, there
you go, There you go, Tisa, Was this the gior
gar number six with whom Sean Combs is connecting?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Okay, that could be it. I don't know how that
fits in with the claim of lack of candor. Okay,
I'm gonna get into the whole Gurr being thrown off,
which could create chaos in the courtroom. I can tell
you that from having challenged grars in the past, and
we've seen.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
How trials have gone off the rails.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
When jurrs start to disappear one by one by one,
then you're in a whole world of trouble.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
If you went out of grrrs, the case is over.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Combs is allowed twelve grars impartial grars his peers, and
if he doesn't get twelve it gets down to eleven,
it's over.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
It's a mistrial. That's what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
The other problem is if there's anything done incorrectly or
inappropriately with taking this jar off, you have reversible error.
So the state is walking tightrope right now, Can we
talk about rhino pills?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
What are they and what do they have to do
with this case? Tisa tells.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Apparently, rhinal pills are something that helped Jane Doe get
over the discust of.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Having to perform for her partner. Now, listen, rhinyl pills
came up.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
I had to go and look it up, and it's
something that has sold over the counter at sex shops.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
It's supposed to make you strong like bull.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
But also Jane Doe said that she just wanted to
grip her eyes and get it over with. Now.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
The funny thing is.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
When she said that there was a visible, well, we
saw a visible reaction from Sean Colms. He seemed like
he was very, very insulted and maybe even a little
enbraged at the implication that the sex she.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Could do without.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
She said that she even bought them matching shorts because
to see them standing in their own shorts and their
own underwear, it was just a bad look. She felt
disgusted by it, so she bought the rhinyl pills to
make the.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Performer go quicker again.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
It's funny when you saw Sean Colms's body language, he
was agitated and he was insulted again. As much as
they're trying to humiliate our little bunny rabbit, Shawn Colms
is the only one that is actually being humiliated. I
can't imagine a man that powerful into perversion, into just
dominating and controlling, finds out that his lover just wanted
(08:50):
to get it over with because all she wanted was
filmed the holder that was his value to her.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Now, this is what I know. Straight out to doctor
Bethany Marshall joining us. Psychoalys out of the La Jersey,
Authorugh of deal Breakers on Amazon. You can see her
now on Peacock she's at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com
Doctor Bethany Rhino erectile pills. Okay, I don't know a
lot about the male psyche, but I know for some
reason they don't want you to know they're taking rhino
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erectile pills.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Where do you get them? Okay?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Walmart, gas stations, convenience stores. You know, when you go
up to pay for your gas. I don't know if
you make somebody else do that for you, but I
have to go pay for my own gas.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And they have like gensing and energy drinks.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
And all sorts of OTC over the counter cure awls
and miracle drinks and drugs. That's where they are rhino
erectile pills.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And I don't know if they're FDA approved, I doubt it.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And they improve stamina, increase erections, and extend the time
of intercourse. Marketed under various names like Crazy Rhino twenty
five thousand, Platinum Rhino twenty five thousand, and so on
and so.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Oh, lack of FDA approval. Okay, that's not good.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But why as you heard Tisa Tales talk about how
Shawn Combs acted embarrassed, what exactly was he doing when
rhino pills came up Tisa tales. How do you know
he was humiliated?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Well, first he leaned in like he was a little
bit angry, right, he looked to his side. Then he
realized what she was actually saying, and that she continued,
and then he did the courthouse shuffle, looking at the screen,
looking down, praying and wishing that this moment would actually pass.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Okay, Bethany jump in.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
Okay, you missed the fact that rhino pills last eight
times longer than viagra, which I think is interesting. But
think about this. P Diddy orchestrates the entire scene. He's
in control of everything, from ordering the escorts, putting him
on a plane, paying for the matching shorts, which sounds
like a slumber party for two year olds personally, But
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the fact that Jane actually controlled an aspect of the narrative.
She wanted those guys to get erections as soon as
possible so she could get it over with Nancy, which
to me speaks to coercion and take. Garret Go's questioned
her about this and said, well, if you didn't want
to do these hotel scenes or these freak offs, why
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would you give somebody a male enhancement pill. She thought
that was counterintuitive, but actually it made sense to me
that the quicker the guy gets the erection, the quicker
she can get it all over with. But you know, Pete,
he didn't like this because not only is that humiliating,
but it shows that he was not in control of
the entire scene like he thought he was.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Okay, listen to this, doctor, Bethany.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Adverse effects chess pain, headaches, prolonged erections, sometimes requiring surgical intervention.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
What is it really worth it, Bethanie, Just you have
to go to the hospital to get rid of it.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
I've heard of this in my practice from a couple
of men who use these kinds of pills and they
ended up in the er with painful erections that lasted
four hours. In fact, one actually had to call nine
to one. One was transported to the er, and after
the fact he said, this was not worth it. But
it was that chase for that sexual high. And that's
what you see with this entire operation, that p Diddy
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is chasing that next sexual high. And when we think
about sex addiction, Nancy, it's really important to understand that
sex addicts want to stay in a prolonged state of
excitement for as long as possible, so they usually delay
ejaculation so that the scene can go on and on.
And the idea that the rhino pills were introduced to
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get it over with undercuts the whole motivation of these.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Freak offs for p. Diddy, which is to keep it
going four hours.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Okay, let's talk about that. Tasa tails joining me outside
the Monahand Federal Courthouse. I never thought that this would
be the topic of my legal discussion when I was
slaving away on law review.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
But it is. That's where we're at.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Where in the middle of the shaw Comes multi count
federal indictment trial in a federal courthouse taste of tales,
I heard testimony that some of the hotel knights, and
that's certainly a euphemism, would last up to thirty hours.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Thirty hours with positions, positions.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Held for three four hours.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
While this man, imagine it, a man dressing a burger
from the neck up and neck it from the neck down,
is running around telling you hold it right there, arch,
you're back breathe in.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
He directed it like the most ceday.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, where did
you get those directives, hold that position, arch your back,
what breathe in, what so.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
In Cassie's testimony and also in Jane Doe's testimony, I
believe Cassie went a little bit more in depth, but
Jane Doe went into death too, like he would tell
her to hold position so hours, so much so that
she actually got issues were going with her back, but
going to the doctor and going to the chiropractor. Again,
when you talk about wanting to extend whatever sick arousal
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he's in, he went out of this way. So again,
the freakos weren't just like bam bam bam, thank you, ma'am.
He literally treated them like he was a cracked out
Loki in the Marvel universe telling.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
People what to do.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Again, it goes into the audacity, and I see why
she was right there saying, listen, give me all the
blue Rhino pills you have in the world, because I
want to get this over with and maybe even somebody
going too far and having to go to the hospital
would be a better outcome than having to hold one
leg up for hours at a time.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Okay, did you actually hear testimony that one leg was
up for hours at a time?
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Not one leg up, but arching the back, arching the back,
holding position. There was something about the way that he
wanted them the whole position and arch the back again.
They said it went through the comtuity. They were not
allowed to do anything in there except what he told
them to do.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
This goes into the role play. But he would even.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Tell the sex workers how to touch Jane and Cassie,
and also direct Cassie and the sex workers on how
to touch them. And anytime it went off the rails,
he would say, can I talk to you for a second.
He would take them into another room. Because it was
always a suite, there would be a separate bedroom.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
He would take them in another room. Sometimes he would
have sex with them.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Sometimes he would beat them to a pulp, and sometimes
he would break them so that the sex worker would
actually hear the bereat or the beating.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
And this goes into.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Cassie sex worker, where he literally said that he ended
up getting a rectile dysfunction because he couldn't take what.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Was happening in the other room whenever they displeased Diddy.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
So yes, it was directed from the beginning to the end,
and he was in complete control.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Both women have testified to.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
That doctor Bethony Marshall.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I mean, in my opinion, my legal opinion, him telling
her to arch her back and hold the position.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
He's asking for his very own dateline special.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
Yes he is Nancy, He's really using her like an object. Okay,
So Teddy Gerrigis was trying to paint a picture that
she wanted these freak COFs and she planned them. What
woman wants to have her back arched four hours on
and out, I'd want to go see the chiropractor. And
also the fact that she kept planning these freak COFs
because she thought P Diddy was in love with her
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and she was in love with him. And Nancy coercion,
sex trafficking, It always happens in the context of an
attachment system.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
We are live at the Monahan Federal Courthouse. Outside the courthouse,
joining us Tisa tails commentator and host of TASA Tales
on YouTube, Tisa summarize what happened today. We know that
the state is nearing the end of its case. Pros
cons How did Jane do on the stand today?
Speaker 5 (17:07):
I gotta tell you, Jane did fantastic on the stand.
Our little bunny Rabbit sharpened her shank and pushed back.
I gotta tell you it was actually really weird. Tinny
Garrickle's in the court. She looked off her game. We've
seen her on Cross before. She is amazing, but there
was something about Jane Doe that had her off her game.
It was the way that she was clever again, not calculating,
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but clever. And again I think she stood in her truth,
the fact that she was honest.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
I regret.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
I regret every seedy, disgusting thing he made me do
because I did it because I thought we were in
the relationship together. It's also interesting that as things move
forward again, they're handling her with kid gloves, and it
makes you wonder, could it be because up until April
she was meeting with Jane Doe, was meeting with Diddy
and his legal team all through April two thousand and
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twenty five, and it makes you think maybe Jane.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Doe again, they don't want to open the door up
to anything. But again, she did amazing.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
She pushed back, and the prosecution is confident that they
will rest their case by Wednesday at the earliest, Friday
at the latest.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
And when they said that, it sent shockways.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Through the defense again, the prosecution is really confident, and
Jane Doe really shined through and really brought home the
sex trafficking through coersion, through fraud, and unfortunately also through violence.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Tasa Tales, you're right to Sean Comms, it's showtime. I
love doing that, ending my case abruptly when I knew
the defense wouldn't be ready to pick it up right then,
Oh yeah, we need you to say shockways, I've seen
that go through the defense. They're all sitting at the table.
You announce, okay, I'm ending early. The defense can start tomorrow,
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and they are like, what, Tasa Tales, isn't it true?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
The defense on cross.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Examination, this woman has been on the stand, now what
twenty two twenty three hours. Didn't they try to paint
her to look like nothing more than a jealous girlfriend.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
They tried, but they fell flat because at the end
of the day, the prosecution did such a good job
a jealous girlfriend. Excuse me, you literally had me reenacting
my first portal for hours at a time, while by
the way, I couldn't wear condoms. They couldn't wear condoms.
But why, by the way, you're viciously beating me while
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the way you're reenacting exits from the shining in real life. Again,
the fact that again they kept trying to trade a
Botaga bag and a bracelet or a necklace as an
excuse that someone would endure this type of the views.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
It fell flat.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
But again something was going on with the defense that
they seemed extremely off their game and they didn't know
how to handle Jane.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
That could be because Aane knows a lot more their
secrets then they'd like them to know who knows. But
again this was a.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Non starter with Jane as far as the cross examination,
So kudos to Jane for holding her.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Own crime stories.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
With Nancy Grace, we heard about a ATega bag Testales
told us about, and now we're hearing about a birthday
and a very expensive necklace and bracelet set listen.
Speaker 9 (20:35):
Jane does admit that Combs gave her thirteen thousand dollars
to spend on her birthday celebrations with friends and gifted
her a Van Cleef necklace and bracelet set Tenny year
ago shows Jane a photo she took in her new
jewelry moments before the three entertainers Combs hired arrived, suggesting
Jane was excited for what was to come. Jane says
she had just taken ecstasy and was happy about how
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the night had gone up until that point, testifying any
type of affection at this point in my life that
I received from Sean, I received with open arms.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
So that makes it all okay, Greg Morris, after he
beat her and subjected her to three male escorts on
her birthday, he gives her bracelet.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So it all just disappears.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Well again, Nancy, we're clearly watching two different trials because
the defense did a great job with Jane. Her testimony
was clearly justified dot com for bad decisions she's ashamed
of now. But again, not one thing in her testimony
supported sex trafficking, not one. She literally has the person
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go to Turks and caicos. She asked for fifteen thousand
to take her friends out to dinner and get a
dress for herself.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
She loves him. I thought he loved me. Nothing has
changed in that.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Again, this is a battery case, and an aggravated battery
case masquerading as sex trafficking. I'm shocked the Southern District
of New York brought this case. I worked in New
York City. It is shocking to me that the US
Attorney's Office would bring this case because based on Jamee's testimony,
I'm not sure why she's not charged as a co conspirator.
Because filming a porn acting out your fantasies as a
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rich person, because Sean Combs legitimately made his money, is
not like bad Boy Entertainment was created to have sex
with people or prostitutes. It is an incredibly successful business.
So he can act out his fantasies. It's not something
that most people would do it.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
That's what it is all about.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
A very instrebble man who's like worried about this, Okay,
his insecurities, Fine, act out your fantasies. I don't care
until they become a felony. You don't have to be
there a mob in order to be prosecuted under Rico.
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You are familiar with the Rampart scandal. Are you not
where the LAPD the police Department was prosecuted under Rico
for corruption?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yes? No, are you familiar with the Rampart scandal?
Speaker 6 (23:09):
So it doesn't you're ignoring the direct testimony and you're inflating.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
No, you're ignoring the testimony of the beatings.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Her testimony was on the one point, Yes, I contacted
the escorts. She got caught in a lie by the
cross examination, but I knew that's what did he wanted
me to do. That is not sex trafficking. That is
not beyond to the exclusion of all reasonable doubt. And
you know as well as I do, Nancy Judges.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Read, I know.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I know that all these women, all of them, are
not lying.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
They're separated in time and space.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
We heard Jane describe her reaction when she heard Cassie
Ventura's complaint her lawsuit. No, she newly passed out because
she thought this happened to her too.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
You know what you do? I don't know. Apparently what
is the pimp Romeo scenario?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
And joining me an expert Lin Shaw is joining us.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Oh I still hear him.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I thought that was a NAT But it's Morse lin
Shaw joining me, director of Lyn's Warriors, committed to ending
human trafficking and sexploitation. Could you explain to Morse how
sex trafficking doesn't require beatings, which we have here. Shawn
comes knocking down four doors to get at Jane, to
beat her.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Multiple trips to the hospital.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
We have plastic surgery on Cassieventurira's gash in her face.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
What more do we need?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
But in addition to beatings coersion, what is the pimp
Romeo syndrome?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Lynshaw?
Speaker 10 (24:45):
I will remain calm and I will explain to Greg
what is happening now with sex trafficking victims. I am
here in New York City. The justice system is beginning
to look at these alleged victims and survivors of these
horrible attacks in a different light. That same old playbook,
Greg does not work anymore. Force fraud, coercion, trauma bonding.
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You need a lesson in that Greg, trauma bonding, Please
go look it up. Triple M which is monster manipulator,
a master Triple d Dirty Diddy degenerate is a pimp
and a trafficker. In my personal opinion, I see this
over and over again. He gets these women to do anything.
They really think they're just it's called the Romeo effect.
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We're talking about it day and night. He just gets
them to think they're the only one, they're the girlfriend.
They are psychologically attached to this alleged trafficker pimp in
my opinion, and they will do anything to please them.
And as they go down this road. They just keep
getting weaker and weaker and weaker. So I don't want
to hear about necklaces and trips and she's hiring sex
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workers or anything. This is a case of sex trafficking.
And again I'm going to point out the just system.
I'm very familiar with it right here in New York City.
New York State is beginning to look at these types
of situations in a different light. Hallelujah, because I'm tired
of everything that old playbook being on all of the
victims all the time. And here's what I have to say.
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I don't care about anything we're hearing. You know what,
this is forest forward coercion. A lot of people are
complicit working. He's got a lot of disciples. Is dirty Diddy,
Dirty Diddy disciples. Everybody write that down. And you know what,
This is a case of criminal enterprise. This is a
case of rico. So let's just all agree that these
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women are not at fault.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
They are victims.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Straight back out to Bethany Marshall, Doctor Bethany Marshall joining
us out of La psychoanalyst.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I need to nail.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Down what is pimp Romeo and the thing I can
compare it to that, people may understand a little bit better.
Is the better women's syndrome where it's a cycle, right,
The husband partner whatever gives the woman flowers, gives her jewelry, apologizes,
I don't know what's wrong with me. I'm so sorry,
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I was drunk, blah blah, filling the blank. Then that's
called the honeymoon phase. It tension builds. Nothing particular has
to be happening, but tension begins building, and then the
eruption where the beating, the massive beating takes place.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Then the honeymoon phase.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Same thing here, and the wife slash partner stays in
it because.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Of a number of reasons.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I don't want to break up the family, I need
the money, I don't have anywhere to go. I've got
to stay in this for the children until they graduate
high school, graduate college, get through middle school, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Fill in the blank. And the woman stays in it.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I think part of it is the woman's and it's
typically a woman. Yes, all of you always say men
can be beaten to Yes, sure they can, but it's
very rare. The woman has been conditioned, really since birth,
not me luckily to want this picture perfect Hallmark card
marriage with the family, and the Christmas tree and the
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Easter egg hunts and the blaw the blaw right. They
think that's going to happen, and it's so ingrained in them.
They choose to believe the partner, the husband for a
number of reasons. Maybe they don't have a job, maybe
they can't make a living. It could be any reason
they feel wrongly. They have to stay in it. Here
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there's always the carrot. There's the carrot and a stick
to make the horse run right. The carrot is I
love you, baby, You're just you're my crack pipe, Sean
Comes's words of My husband called me a crack pipe.
He would be in his own dateline special. But that said,
then there is the stick, the beatings. Either do it
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because you love me, or do it because I beat yours?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Dick Romea, Why do they stay.
Speaker 8 (29:02):
You know, Nancy, Because these women want what all of
us want. They want to love and to be loved.
They do want the Christmas holidays, They do want the families,
of course they do. And these pimp Romeo guys are
so seductive at the beginning. They do as you describe.
They offer gifts, they kind of. They're very manipulative. They
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tell the woman how beautiful she is, but soon that underbelly,
that dark side emerges, where the woman is just treated
like an object, and whenever she tries to break away,
the man manipulates even more, and eventually, when the manipulation
doesn't work, he uses violence. And we can see this
in a very heartbreaking way in Jane's testimony yesterday, where
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she describes wanting to go out with him alone for
her birthday, and she doesn't want to have the dinner
at No Boo because No Boo is at a hotel
and she knows if they go there there'll be a
freak off, So she begs to go to others restaurants
so she can be alone with her sweetheart. So you
can see here the beginning of the pimp Romeo syndrome
where she actually has deluded herself into thinking they have
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a true relationship. So they do go to Nobu and
on one of these dinners, what happens. He has three escorts,
male escorts waiting in another room. Can you imagine going
on on a date with somebody you think, you know,
it's all lovey dovey, and all of a sudden three
prostitutes jump out of the next room. I mean that
is really, I think a snapshot into this relationship and
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the abusive aspects where I'm like, he wasn't taking her
out to dinner. He was just manipulating and coercing her
to get her to have sex with other guys. And
you can see this all throughout her testimony, story after story,
and one more heartbreaking aspect Nancy is that when he
was coercing her to do these freakofs, he was taking
other women to the met Gala, to Turks and caicos
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in these women did not have to do the freakoffs.
Objectivity that she was the sex slave waiting at home
while he was out in public with these other women.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, he got really really angry.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Sidney Sumner joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter Sidney, He
got really angry when Jane posted a photo of Comes
and Jane out having dinner somewhere, and she would sit
on the fringes watching and looking at all the other
social media where other women would post being out with him.
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But when she posted something, he forced her to take
it down and got really angry.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Nancy Combe's face wasn't even in that photo. It was
a picture of the dish that she had while they
were out to dinner together, and he said, you need
to delete that because somebody could figure out that we
were together that night because of your post. What a
weird even outright photos just hint that they're I wack together,
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Sidney Sumner.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Don't move, don't move, Sidney Bethany. He got mad over
a picture of a salad.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
Really, you know, at the same at the same as
my elbow at the same time, Nancy. He went on
a new podcast with Young Miami and was talking about
intimate details of their sexual relationship. All the while he
wouldn't even let Jane.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Post a picture of food.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
So if that is not, in a way some form
of modern slavery, I don't know. Somebody gets chained in
the basement while somebody gets treated with special favors, or
like families where one child is chosen to be abused
and starved and the other children are loved. I think
this is sort of a broad pattern not only of
exploitation and of coercion, but profound devaluation of Jane. So
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she gets in a position where she is so devalued
she doesn't feel she has rights anymore.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I understand that Greg Morris is gnashing his teeth and
switching his tail.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
What's your problem?
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Well, it's interesting that you know, I've never heard of
sex traffic victims go to NOBU one night, then go
on their own this notion.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
All the testimony that's been given so far from Jane
and Cassie's own mouth, is that they thought this was
going to be a path to whatever in their career.
Maybe Cassie doesn't sing that well and she thought this
would work. Jane wanted to have nice things. No, but
you're conflating so many things that's relevant to the corner fall. Remember, Nancy,
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you're right, you just don't like anything about.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
The pamp Romeos nothing.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
I heard doctor Marshall described was a domestic battery situation,
and that's what this is.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
That's what I've been saying. This is not trafficking, it's
not even closed.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
No, but you're watching different cases. You're just upset that,
as usual, the is right over the prosecution.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
You think I'm something new.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
You already said that we're watching different cases. Sydney Sumner
got a question for you. Let's get down to some
breast tacks here. Isn't it true that today during a
discussion regarding evidence amongst the lawyers, we find out about
two more recorded phone calls from King Combs. Shawn Combs himself.
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He doesn't make Christina Korum do his dirty work. He
gets on the phone himself. What's the significance of that
phone call with Jane?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Well, Nancy, we heard one phone call after their twenty
twenty three trip to Turks and Tacos, where Jane says
that Combs sprung another hotel night on her and then
offense had a good point here. Jane had reached out
to a entertainer before they even left, intending to invite
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him on the trip, So they did make a good
point there. But we hear a phone call after that
where they're exchanging loving messages about how much fun they
had on this trip. On Combs calls Jane his crack pipe.
You don't know if that's supposed to be romantic, but
we heard that he had such a good time with
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her and that he's so addicted to being with her
that he was going to call her his crack pipe.
Going forward, the.
Speaker 11 (35:17):
Jury heard of voicemail comes left Jane in response to
her loving text messages calling her his crack pipe. Combs
expressed how much fun he had with Jane on their
twenty twenty three Turks and Keiko's trip and told Jane
to get her rest and informing her of his newest
nickname for her, quote, you are the crack pipe. That's
my new name for you, crack pipe. I'm going to
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call you crack pipe. Very good time together.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
That's all well and good to hear it from a reporter,
but let's hear it from the horse's mouth.
Speaker 12 (35:50):
Hey baby, we had a great time staying the light.
It's all good. Get your arrests. You are the crack pipe.
That's my new name for your crack pipe. Should I
call you CP? But yeah, I don't. I want you
to stay in the light. You know what I'm saying.
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We had a very very good time together. Yeah, I
had a great time, and I really really want you
to get some rest. I ain't know about you're throwing
up and all that. That's when I was like, hold
up a second, I get some rest, baby.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Love crime stories with Nancy Grace. Hey baby, we had
a great time.
Speaker 12 (36:37):
Stay in the light. It's all good. Get your rest.
You are the crack pipe. That's my new name for
your crack pipe? Should I call you CP? But yeah,
I don't. I want you to stay in the light.
You know what I'm saying. We had a very very
good time together. Yeah, I had a great time, and
(37:01):
I really really want you to get some rest. I
ain't know about you're throwing up and all that. That's
when I was like, hold up a second, I get
some reci.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Love joining me an all star panel straight out to
Chris McDonough, joining us director at the Cold Case Foundation,
former homicide detective and for my purposes, former vice.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
You can find him.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Now at the interview room on YouTube. Chris McDonough, I'm
going to call you CP, crack pipe. Really, could you
help me explain to Greg Morse this is the same
way that pimps treat the women that get out and
(37:43):
make twenty five dollars a trick for them. They beat
them if they have to. That's the stick. Then they
use the carrot. They'll go to dollartry and buy them
a new shirt, or they'll buy them a cheeseburger.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Believe it or not.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
That's really that's some real cases that I have prosecuted
that's the carrot.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
That's how it works. Works.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
But in this case it's a but take a bag
or a diamond bracelet that you get some birthday sushi
and you're like, oh my stars, he loves me.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
It's sick.
Speaker 13 (38:17):
Yeah, it is, Nancy.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I mean, this guy's classic.
Speaker 13 (38:20):
I mean, think about Burke, a boy sitting in the corner,
you know, butt naked from the neck down, and he's,
you know, inflicting pain visually and physically on a victim
in front of him and to him, she has no
existence other than his existence. And to think his existence
right now has been reduced to zoo pills, rhino pills,
(38:46):
purchase an encounter of your local sex shop. You know
what he reminds me of. We remember the old X
rated boots in these old shops where you know, you
could walk in there, you.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Pull the curtain back. There they are.
Speaker 13 (39:01):
That is p Diddy, And the difference with him is
he just has some bucks behind his lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Chris mcdonah, it's I think it's hard for a lot
of people to see that he is really no different
from a thug pimp that beats the women. As a
matter of fact, Chris, look at your screen. Look at
your monitor. I want to show you the photos of
the doors that were attacked by Sean Combs. There's one
(39:29):
that was cracked in. Look at that actually cracked and
fort kicked in. Look at that. There were four doors
that were broken in by him to get to a victim, Jane,
to beat her. So you've got the beatings where he says,
(39:50):
just put on some makeup and get out there. Quit vomiting,
get out there.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
There's that. Then you've got the diamond bracelet.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
So how can you just see the diamond bralet and
not see the beatings?
Speaker 13 (40:03):
Well exactly, and we can see the beatings. Is persona
is Hey, look at me. I'm a good guy, but
behind the scenes he's violent.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Joining us Sidney Sumner Crime Stories investigative reporter, Sidney, bring
me up to date regarding Jane's testimony. It's been I
think five days, twenty plus hours of her on the
stand and now the state drops a bomb in the
court room setting.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Oh yeah, we're finishing, that's.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Right, Nancy. So Jane has been on the stand for
quite some time now. Defense attorneys have had quite a
time trying to disprove what she said under cross examination,
but after Jane, we are expected to just have a
few more witnesses. Prosecutors say they are cutting down their
witness list and now plans to wrap slightly earlier than
(40:55):
they intended. They always predicted about six weeks to make
their case and that should be exactly what we hit
by the end of next week.
Speaker 14 (41:04):
February of twenty twenty three was the first time Jane
claims she threatened to withhold hotel nights from Combs. Jane
says she threw the hotel night card when she realized
Colmbs had taken another girlfriend on a beautiful birthday vacation
while Jane spent her birthday having sex with three escorts.
Jane says that at her threat of refusing future hotel nights,
including one plan for Valentine's Day, Combs left the vacation
(41:26):
a day early. Their Valentine's plans did proceed, with Jane
having sex with two entertainers at the same time.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
We remember an American hero, Detative Sergeant Mason Griffith, just
thirty four, shot and killed in the line of duty,
leaving behind a grieving wife. Jennifer Sons, Trevor and Jason.
American hero to take a Sergeant Mason Griffith Nancy Grace
(41:53):
signing off goodbye friend,
Host
Nancy Grace
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