June 20, 2025 • 43 mins
Sean "Diddy' Combs federal sex trafficking and racketeering trial resumes after an expected juror illness, Wednesday and Juneteenth Holiday, Thursday. After this two day pause, the government's case winds down as they bring on their last witness, former assistant to Diddy, Brendan Paul and Diddy's alleged "drug mule."
Paul is arrested in March 2024 right around the same time Combs' homes in Miami and Los Angeles were raided by federal authorities. Paul's arrest consists of coke and weed-related charges at the Miami-Opa Locka Airport that March. The former assistant's charges were ultimately dismissed after he completed a pretrial diversion program. Paul was described as a "mule" for Combs in a 2024 federal lawsuit against the mogul by producer Lil Rod. "He acquires, and distributes, Mr. Combs Drugs, and Guns," the suit reads.
On the stand, Paul tells jurors he was more than just an assistant, he was Diddy’s go-to man for drugs, including cocaine, ketamine, MDMA (aka “tusi”), ecstasy, prescription pills, and high-grade weed. When asked about his relationship with Combs, Paul says " it is complicated." Paul testifies to working between 80 and 100 hours a week and the cocaine found on his person at the time of his 2024 arrest was left over from his cleaning of Diddy’s room. Paul claims he personally witnessed the use of coke, ketamine, ecstasy, weed, and more by his former boss, Diddy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Where was HR when all of this was happening.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
You pointed out what company?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Right?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
So this is basically HR doing P Diddy's bidding.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
HR equals hell racket. Nobody did anything. It is the
playbook powerful people over less fortunate people.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
The jury is watching you butt naked or maybe he
had a burka on, and they're all looking over at him.
What can he do? What did he do?
Speaker 6 (00:33):
I'll tell you what he did. He actually looked like
he was a little bit proud.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
It was odd.
Speaker 6 (00:38):
It seemed like he was proud of what the jurors saw.
Speaker 7 (00:41):
And I literally sat there and said that man has
not learned a thing.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Hotel nights would last up to thirty hours.
Speaker 7 (00:58):
The freakings weren't just like bamm bam, thank you, ma'am.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
Positions held for three four hours.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
The ouch I'd want to go see the chiropractor, a.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Cracked out Loki and the Marvel.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Universe told that position, aren't your back? What breathe in?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
What?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Straight out?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
To Tisa Tails joining us at the Monahan Federal Courthouse
where Shawn Combs is being tried on a multi count
federal indictment. Tisa the Star off Tasa tales on YouTube
TISA What is the Latest Nancy?
Speaker 6 (01:30):
Today was an incredible day for the prosecution.
Speaker 7 (01:33):
They are this close to resting their case, but there
were a couple of bombshells put out. First of all,
Briance still did his best to create Fulton Counting Magic.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
Basically trying to get us into the whole lifestyle.
Speaker 7 (01:46):
Apparently, if you're working on an album, Apparently, if you're
working toward.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
A goal, it doesn't matter if you break the law.
That's right. The defense put.
Speaker 7 (01:55):
Out, it's I guess this whole thing, that this is
a lifestyle.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
Unfortunately, they seem to forget that it was illegal.
Speaker 7 (02:02):
And one of the most shocking moments, they asked Brendan
Paul whether he thought his boss was a criminal. They
asked whether they thought his boss was installed in crime.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
They literally asked them, do you think you're a criminal?
Speaker 7 (02:17):
However, what was their conclusion, according to Brendan Tull, absolutely not.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
Mister Paul, Are you forgetting how you came to be
in this place? Because I feel like we need to
roll it back like Freaky Friday. How did you end
up here?
Speaker 7 (02:33):
You are arrested with drugs at thought OPA Loca Airport
while you were about to get on a plane, a
private plane with your boss in the course of business
and transport drugs that your boss left.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
The night before in his apartment.
Speaker 7 (02:50):
Now, I might not be the greatest legal mind ever,
but I'm pretty sure in the United States.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Of America, you have just admitted to plenty of crimes.
Imagine a man that is on the stand because you
had to take community for.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
Doing illegal stuff, sitting there talking about what a great
man he was, and he only maybe bought five hundred
and drugs here a thousand and hair, sir, what about
the five thousand and weed?
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Again?
Speaker 7 (03:17):
A lot of people were scratching their heads, and a
lot of people were looking at Brian still saying you
did all this because you were working on an album, which,
by the way, flopped.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
You guys, Brian Steele.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
Was telling bedtime stories and fairy tales. He needs to
write for Disney and Pixar because the story he was
trying to paint was.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
Not grounded in reality. The defense promise at the beginning
of this trial that they might go to the eighteenth
They had the whole world. They were gonna show what's
a lifestyle?
Speaker 7 (03:46):
Instead, they showed that Brian still what's moreland Mark Agnifilio,
Tenny Garrett goes, and of course Xavier Donaldson need to
work for Disney Pixar because they were writing bedtime stories
mixed with a.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Little fairy tale.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
You guys, But it looks like the defense and a
shocking turn of events, has admitted defeat or at the
very least and ungrounded confidence. They went from saying that
their whole trial is going to be five days for
them to put on their defense case, they have now
shortened it down to one maybe two days now. Listen,
a lot of people gassed in the courtroom one to
(04:24):
two days. Sir, you know you've lost the crowd because
the first thing I thought, is Kanye going to testify?
Speaker 6 (04:30):
You know you've lost the crowd.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
Where even Kanye West has decided it's not a good
idea for him to get on the stand. There is
not enough time for anybody to testify. Again, what does
this mean? It means that some people think that did
he might get off because he's over confident, But again,
pride goes before the fall.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Where is this offense?
Speaker 7 (04:50):
Where are all the celebrities that were going to testify
on this behalf. Where all the employees that are going
to testify it was just a lifestyle and they knew nothing.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
It's very very some people see this confidence.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
I see it as a red flag that the prosecution
has proven their case without a shred of doubt.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
Again, where are all these employees.
Speaker 7 (05:12):
That can testify it wasn't a criminal organization where all these.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Employees were feuding.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
What the prosecution witnesses said, again, it's a bold move.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
We'll see what it means.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
But Taysa, How did Sean comes respond?
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Listen today, Diddy? This is Diddy's worst week ever. Diddy
was begging for during number seven to be kicked off.
They even started some nonsense asking about to acquire into
the medical records about the jura that could not be
there one Wednesday. Now, I'm not gonna lie and Nancy
party me said, I hope that during gets better, but
(05:47):
can they maybe be sick on Friday too, so we
could get a five day week. As you see, that
did not happen. However, it did create another opportunity. We
were also happy to see.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
Didty literally got all of.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
His motions rejected and that secret phone that Didd he
tried to hide from the prosecutors that they are going
to look at for a possible obstruction of justice charge.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Was admitted in evidence. Okay, so a lot of crushing
defeats to Diddy.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
You have the jurors, you have, the jury stays diverse.
But Diddy just got bad news upon bad news. But
as it stands, and we know what the Diddy trial,
things changed daily. The jurors that we have are going
to be the one to go to deliberation, which, by
the way, all right, which by the way, Diddy's team
has informed us that they're not even going to put
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on a five day defense. They're going to be done
in one to two business days.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
You guys.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
Again, some people are saying this is a sign that
did he thinks, say proven their case.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
I see it as a sign of desperation, or maybe
Diddy says it's over and I don't want to have
to pay you guys another moment. I don't want to
pay you guys for another moment, because again, Diddy literally
paid millions of dollars in order for people to try
to make rotten zucchini into something. We're not talking limbs
and a lemonade. We're talking rotten zucchini and what do
(07:07):
you do with that? Well, according to most cooks, just
like Didny's career, his life, and his chance of freedom,
it looks like it just got tossed in the trash.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Joining us now outside the Monahan Courthouse in downtown Manhattan,
Lauren Conlin, star.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Off Pop Crime TV on YouTube.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Lauren, thank you for being with us, Lauren, I understand
that there was so much baby oil at a free cough.
We have already heard about two slip and falls. Listen, Lauren.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
Jonathan Perez is Shaan Combs's fourth assistant to take the
stand with Immunity. Perez testifies that he worked directly under
Christina Koram, who instructed him on setting up King Knights,
which korm described as Combs's private time with a woman.
Perez says the task was usually left to the night's
staff and he only set up for about five of
these nights, even had to purchase lingerie for Jane for
(08:02):
the King Knights. Perez says he cleaned up the messy
rooms afterward and they were often covered in oil. Replying
to Korum about how a cleanup was going, Perez texted,
slipped and fell twice already Perez says Combs also sent
him to pick up drugs.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Okay, objection, ew what happened? The guys had two slip
and falls in all the oil.
Speaker 9 (08:26):
Yes, Unfortunately that is what we saw in evidence when
we saw these text messages between Christina Korum and Jonathan Perez,
one of Ditty's assistants. We also saw a text message
from Christina Korum to Jane actually stating that the rooms
that she and Ditty would use there always would be
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extra damage charges because they were all white and more
oil filled than normal.
Speaker 10 (08:54):
So it's been a bit stomach turning.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Nancy joining us now outside the Monahan courtouse is Tisa
tells Tisa, I understand that Sean Combs has been First
of all, he tried the Bible. Okay, then I guess
this lawyer's told him that's not a good idea. You
need to stop that right now. Reading the Bible in
front of the jury. Now, if you had any history
of ever going to church or reading the Bible in
(09:18):
the past, it might not have been a bad move.
But using the Bible as a prop I'm surprised he
wasn't struck by a bolt of lightning that said. Now,
he's got a new book he's bringing into court, The.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Magic of Believing.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Now, if I'm right, that's all about manifesting your truth,
like manifesting a not guilty.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Is this real?
Speaker 6 (09:46):
It is actually real? He has some sort of manifestation book.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
But again, well each week at this point, I think
he's going to bring in a guide to the Dark
Arts from Hogwarts if we let him keep going.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
He is sliding down the walls. And the thing is,
he keeps trying to bring in these props to me,
the Bible perfect prop for him.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Okay, like you said, you're about to have thunder and
lightning in the courtroom.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
Now he's all about manifesting. He's trying to remind.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
Us of the brain marching he gave the nation for
the last ten years and bring that in. But at
this point it's turned into a joke, which makes me
believe how much is our is a legal team actually
monitoring social media? Because this is turned into a joke again,
what is he going to bring in? What is he
going to bring in next? How to make friends and
win enemies? I mean, no one really knows what's going on.
(10:37):
So again Diddy is trying his best to turn this
into a circus, but the judge has a firm hold
on the courtroom and he's letting it know this is
going to be above board.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
So he's struggling. He's definitely struggling.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Crime Stores with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Shawn Combs in the courtroom manifesting I'm not guilty verdict.
Speaker 11 (11:05):
Listen is Sean Didy Coombs trying to manifest a not
guilty verdict. The music mogul has been spotted carrying a
self help book, The Magic of Believing, back and forth
to court. Legal experts say it isn't uncommon for defendants
to turn to some sort of coping mechanism during lengthy
and stressful trials, and Comb's book of choice is used
by many for mental fortitude in challenging situations.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Doctor Bethany manifesting for those of us that aren't really
familiar with that, could you explain what it is? Is
it like, oh, wish it and it comes true?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Like I dream of Genie?
Speaker 9 (11:42):
You know?
Speaker 6 (11:42):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Manifesting is this idea that if you form a thought
in your mind, you can materialize it in the environment.
So let's say you want to be an actress, You
meditate and you imagine yourself being in front of the camera,
being enjoying being, you know, getting your next oscar, and
(12:05):
that if you can sum it up enough feelings about
that event, then you can rearrange sort of what's going
on in the environment to make that event happen. I mean,
you know whether or not this is true?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
So P did he controls?
Speaker 5 (12:25):
You?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Actually just say.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Whether or not this is true? Okay? Whether did you
say that? Because I think you did, Whether it's not true?
How about going.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
To school and getting a job to advance your goal?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
What about what are Okay?
Speaker 5 (12:41):
So you don't tell your clients sit there and wish
it and it will happen.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Okay, Okay, So just like P did, he tries to
control his victims. I think he's trying to control God.
I mean it's like he's trying to go to the universe.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Meant, Bethany, please, unless we really need to drag God
into this, let's please leave him her out of it.
Just first of all, you evaded the question do you
tell your clients to manifest?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I do not, but many of my Beverly Hills clients
come in with a goal they're trying to manifest. So
I try to turn it into real life, you know, actualization, meeting,
acting on their both their own behalf to reach the goal,
you know, Nancy.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Okay, now you're losing me. You're totally losing me in
all the words or of words. Okay, thank goodness, you
don't tell your clients to manifest. Okay, Sidney Sumner. What
does Kanye and his million dollar titanium teeth drool have
to do with Sean Combs?
Speaker 12 (13:44):
Well, Nancy, Kanye West has been one of the only
public supporters of Diddy throughout this thing, and it's interesting
because they weren't really close before this. Sean Combs and
Kanye West kind of had a falling out over Kanye
White Lives Matter t shirt line and they haven't really
been close since then. But now that Sean Kalms is
(14:08):
behind bars, Kanye West has apparently been reaching out to
his sons and offering support. And we saw that devolved
from pushing Sean Jalon's merchandise on his website to selling
swastika T shirts on his website in this tie raid
that kind of unfolded during Super Bowl Week.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Oh yes, let's take a look at the swastika T
shirt back to Troy Slayton, joining US veteran trial lawyer
out of LA. Troy Slayton, I mean, with friends like this,
why would they bring Kanye to court, a known Hitler sympathizer.
Speaker 13 (14:45):
I don't think Ditty's defense team had anything to do
with this. I think Kanye did this on his own
because he's selling free Diddy merchandise. If I was Ditty's
defense team, I'm not calling in UH Kanye West with
his UH, with his swastikas and his hal Hitler merchandise.
Speaker 10 (15:04):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 13 (15:06):
I think Kanye did this absolutely on his own because
he's trying to sell merch He's trying to make money
off all the free publicity surrounding this trial.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Toroy Slaytony, it cannot help Shawn Combs, not that I
want him to be helped, but it can't help Shawn Combs.
For Kanye to show up, I don't know if ther
even realized what was happening.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
But it's done now. Can I ask you.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Very quickly, Troy Slayton, I'm gonna circle back to the
chaos in the courtroom surrounding GURR number six, Okay, and
will that be reversible error?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
If there's a conviction.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Could you explain why, whether he's black, white, purple, or green,
that juror had to go.
Speaker 13 (15:52):
Well, I understand why the judge dismissed them, but I
also understand why it's going to be fertile ground for
al because there's this little thing in this country called
the Constitution, and the equal protection clause of the fourteenth
Amendment says everybody has to be treated equal. And how
that applies to this trial is that you can't dismiss
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somebody because of their race. You can't. And so if
the jurors, I mean, if.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
The prosecutor Slaton, yes.
Speaker 10 (16:24):
Nancy, if the prosecutors we all.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
No color, we all accept that a juror cannot be
thrown off or thrown out of the Va Dyer process
because of their race. Batsan Vie, Kentucky. It's an age
old case, right. We all know that this jar was
placed on the jury. He was not deselected because of
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his race. But Troy, he stated, he doesn't live in
the jurisdiction.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
He can't be on the jury.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
You can't get away, you can't behave that constitutional right.
Speaker 13 (17:01):
They didn't even give him a chance to explain, Nancy.
They kicked him out. He gave inconsistent answers. At one
point he made he said he lived in New Jersey.
The other point he said he lived in the Bronx.
So it's not clear exactly where he lived or if
he moved.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Okay, let's get some clarification very quickly, Sidney Sumner, what
exactly did he say?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Plays school Troy Slayton Nancy.
Speaker 12 (17:26):
The judge said that the issue of race could not
outweigh the fact that this juror was possibly lying or
trying to stay on this panel. The juror was very
unclear and whether or not he actually resided in New
Jersey or if he resided in the Bronx full time,
and that inconsistency led the judge to believe that this
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juror was not being truthful because he wanted to stay
on the panel, and the juror should not be that
invested in the case unless he had some kind of
bias toward it. So the judge said, I'm sorry, but.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
His words exactly, Sidney, where did he say he lived?
Speaker 13 (18:08):
Well?
Speaker 12 (18:08):
At first on his jury questionnaire, this juror answered that
he lived in the Bronx with his aunt. Then in
casual conversation with court staff, he was talking about living
in New Jersey with his girlfriend and his daughter. So
when it came back again, he told the judge, no, no, no,
I spend most of my time in the Bronx. So
we have this constant inconsistency of well, you said this,
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now you said that, now you said this again. So
I don't understand what is the truth here, And at
that point he just could not be trusted.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Joining us now outside the Monahan Federal Courthouse where Seawan
Combs is on trial in a multi count federal indictment
for sex trafficking and rico standing by Lauren Conlin, star
a pop crime TV on YouTube. Lauren, thank you for
being with us. Lauren, What do you make of what
just went down in the courtroom today?
Speaker 9 (19:05):
In court, the government started with their first witness being
Brendan Paul. Brendan Paul was a former personal assistant for
Sean Colmbs and if you recall, Brendan Paul was actually
arrested at a Miami airport in March of twenty twenty four,
and the media had essentially dubbed Brendan Paul as this
(19:26):
quote unquote alleged drug mule Now, Brendan Paul only had
about er point zero seven grams of cocaine on him,
and he actually explained to us in the gallery and
to the jury that he was cleaning up one of
Shawn Colms's hotel rooms and he found it laying around.
He took it with him and then he just forgot
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to take it out of his pocket.
Speaker 10 (19:49):
He later told us that he had a great lawyer,
and his lawyer was able to get these charges dropped.
Speaker 9 (19:55):
But he never told anyone, never told law enforcement who
who the cocaine belonged to, and he never talked to
Seawan Colmes after this arrest, and he really hadn't seen
him until he testified today.
Speaker 10 (20:09):
Now Brendan Paul's background.
Speaker 9 (20:11):
He worked for Colmbs Enterprises as a personal assistant from
twenty twenty two to March of twenty twenty four after
his arrest, about eighteen months. And this kid was actually
a d one walk on basketball player for Syracuse.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
Now.
Speaker 9 (20:29):
He testified that he wanted to be in the music
industry and he was pretty excited about this opportunity to
work for Shawn Colmes. His duties really included tasks like
packing Diddy's suit cases, organizing things, cleaning up his studio
after he was done, and he testified that he only
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set up these quote unquote wild King Knights a handful
of times. He also testified that he did get drugs
for Ditty between five and ten times. However, he said
it most likely was less than ten times, and he
would do this through other assistance. He would text them
to see what Diddy needed, or he would do it
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through KK and very rarely would he.
Speaker 10 (21:14):
Do it through Sean Combs himself.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
He also talked about seeing Jane very frequently and he
would set up these king Knights for Ditty and Jane,
And during Brian Steele's cross examination, Steele said to him,
did you speak to Jane.
Speaker 10 (21:31):
After these Wild king Knights?
Speaker 9 (21:33):
And he said yes, And then Brian Steele would ask
did she seem like she was regretful or she didn't
want to be there? Did you sense anything like that
from her? And Brendan Paul's answer was absolutely not. Brendan
Paul also spoke about an occasion where Ditty had asked
him to try a drug for him, and he wanted
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him to try it so he could see if it
was good or not. And Brendan Paul said that he
did this, but he'd did this because he wanted to
be loyal to Diddy.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
We are alive at the Monahan Federal Courthouse where Shawn
Combs aka Ditty and many other names, is on trial
facing prosecution in a Multicut federal indictment including charges for
sex trafficking. And Rico joining me at the courthouse. Tisa
Tels investigator and star off Tisa tales on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I understand the.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Judge is furious about a leak. A leak, Tisa.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
What happened, guys, what happened in the courtroom today shocked everybody.
Judge Aaron is done playing nice. He went in there
with his cloak flying behind the way. He was Lord
Voldemort coming to Hogwarts. He literally accused the defense council
and a little bit the prosecution.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Accused them of lying and leaking.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
Information that can only been available to the people in
a sealed courtroom.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
It was incredible.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
On top of that, Diddy's team set they're going to
rest their case in two to five trial days.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
However, there was a leak that actually came out from
people that were in a closed seal courtroom.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
The only people there were the defense and the prosecution.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
The issue was an article. There was an article that
was actually published. The judge hinted that it was last night.
He didn't tell us what it was, and he said
the source of the article had to be one of
the parties because again it was a closed courtroom, nobody
was supposed to know about it, and it was under
federal court ordered. Now again, the prosecution was like, it's
not us, your honor. However, the judge literally hammered Mark Agnifilio,
(23:38):
the lead council for DIDI, saying when.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Did you find out about this article?
Speaker 7 (23:42):
Mark Agnophilio sat there, I don't know, stumbling over his words.
Then the judge said, but when were you made aware?
Speaker 6 (23:51):
He still didn't know.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
Finally he said, oh, we think when the prosecution sent
it to US. Marine Collmy literally looked like, what do
you mean we They were caught flat footed. They didn't
have any excuses. The judge finally said, listen, do you
know what's going to happen moving forward?
Speaker 6 (24:08):
First of all, he said he has the right to
open up an investigation. He said, this is serious, he said,
moving forward.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
If this happens again, he will, they will literally seize phones,
they will conduct a thorough investigation. They will uh, they
will literally question all parties under penalty of perjury, and
they will get to the bottom of those leaks. He said,
moving forward though he is putting the defense and prosecution,
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but everybody knew he was talking to the defense on
on notice that if any leaks come out of their count,
if anything is signed off on, and anything escapes, then
they are holding the lead prosecutor or defense attorney accountable
for anything that happens in their count.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Judge Aaron means business. It was. It was. It was
shocking what happened in the courtroom.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
You do not want to be the source of a leak,
and you don't want anybody on your team to be responsible.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And that goes right down to the law.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Clerks and the summer interns that may have xerox papers
or hand it over discovery, because it reflects on you.
And once you lose your credibility in the courtroom technical
legal term.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
You're screwed. End of story.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Now, we just heard from Tisa Tales joining us at
the courthouse that the defense has now dropped their own bomb,
stating they're only going to put up two to five
days of defense witnesses straight out to Brian Fitzgibbons. Joining
us Director Operations, USPA nation Wide Security, he leads a
team of investigators.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Brian, welcome back, Thank you for.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Being with us. You and I have been in a
lot of cases. You has witnessed me as the prosecutor.
The defense always does it. Sadly, it took me about
ten years to catch on to it. I would always
believe them when they would say, oh, we're going to
be at least two or three weeks, and it never
was two or three weeks. But I would always take
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them at their word and arrange my rebuttal witnesses to
come to town or to show up at the courthouse
in two or three weeks. And then sudden they go, oh, no, yeah,
it's just going to be like two days. And it's
a way to catch the state flat footed. But I
think it's also, again pardon the pun, puffing up when
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you make your case to be.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
More substantial than it really is going to be.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Have you ever and all the times you've testified, fitz
Gibbons seen the defense put on the length of a
case they promise up front, Ever, No.
Speaker 14 (26:42):
I think you make a great point, Nancy. What the
defense is going to do here is, you know they've
used their private investigators, and they're going to present a
simple shortcase to promote reasonable doubt. Right, to keep it
simple for the jury and point out where they're flaws
in the prosecution's case and provide that reasonable doubt.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
The worst Netflix until in the world.
Speaker 9 (27:09):
Two hundred bottles of baby oil and nine hundred bottles
of astroblide.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Hold it right there, r your bad breath in rhino peels.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
He's in control of everything, beat her and subjected her
to three male escorts.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
She was the sex sleeve, and.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
He's asking for his very own dateline special.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I just want to wash my mouth out.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
With lestrine, with lysol, with rubbing alcohol after I talk
about the Sean Combe's case. And I suspect some of
the jurors feel the same way because when they were
watching the States exhibit triple X the freak Cough videos,
they were actually turning away from the monitor, went sing
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visibly hiding their faces.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Do you blame them?
Speaker 5 (27:58):
But now may freakof Christmas? Everybody?
Speaker 15 (28:03):
Special Agent Penland also reads texts from January twenty thirteen,
where Combs ask Cassie Ventura if she wants to celebrate
a late Christmas with a four man freakoff. Comb's text Adventura,
word for word, want to celebrate Christmas and have a
freak off tomorrow or Friday. Ventura then got to work
hiring the men with staggered arrivals for January eleventh and twelfth,
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reaching out to three men personally and arranging for the
fourth from an escort service.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Doctor Bethany Marshall again, I need a shrink and a drink,
but says so'm I tey to len how to settle
for just a shrink?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Did you hear that?
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Guy's Bethany Marshall. Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us out of
the LA jurisdiction. She is the author of deal Breaker.
You can see her now on peacock and you can
find her at Doctorbethany Marshall dot com.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Did you hear that Merry Christmas?
Speaker 5 (28:58):
You want to celebrate a late Christmas with a four
man freak cough? In other words, you have sex with
four sex workers?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
You know, Nancy?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
I hear somebody who's compulsive and addicted in terms of
compulsivity sex addiction. One of the things we know about
sex addiction is that the thoughts of sex or whatever
the fetishized view of sex is, becomes so prominent in
the perpetrator's mind that they often can't focus. Often they
can't even hold down a job, or they present as
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somebody with attention deficit disorder because their mind keeps drifting
to sex. And then in terms of addiction, you know,
we think of sex as driving these free coughs, but
there's so much drugs involved. And I hear in the
testimony that he'll say, you know, I'll be up for
twenty four hours or forty eight hours, or there's some
chatter back and forth and the text about that. And
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to me, Nancy, I think methaphetamine that's the one drug
that could keep somebody up for that many days. And
we know with methamphetamine, especially in homicide, there's often overkill.
So if he already likes power and violence and he's
on meth, that's even going to ratchet up a level.
And Nancy real quickly the jurors wincing. Wincing is an
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instinctual response to loss of life. It's like seeing a
plane fall out of the sky or a big dog barking,
or a spider or someone ejected from a car. If
they are wincing, they're not just viewing sex, They're viewing battery.
What is being done to these women? Are they being sodomized?
Are they being chained in compromising positions? Are they so
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out of it they don't know what's happening?
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Then?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Are they being whipped? I would be so curious to
know what are they seeing that is life threatening?
Speaker 5 (30:43):
The way you just said that, Doctor Bethany, it's overwhelming,
It really is, because those videos are placing the jurors
at the freak offs and Linshaw joining me, founder director
of Lynn's Warriors, an organization committed to ending sex trafficking
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and sex abuse of women and girls. When I say
the words freak cough, it's like eating a dirt sandwich,
free cough, hotel night, king night. Wow, that's certainly airbrushing
the whole scenario, putting perfume on the pig. It's torture,
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it's sex abuse, it's coerced rape.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Free cough. That sounds like it could be a music festival.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Hotel night.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
That sounds like a fun getaway right where the twins
and I would camp out on the bed, order room service,
woo right and King Night.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
It's anything but that for the victims.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Has anyone heard of sexual servitude? This is part with
the justice system now we are working into sex trafficking.
It is coercion, is force, it is fraud, sexual servitude.
We've seen the testimony. We've heard they were forced into this,
they were under the influence, they were threatened with their lives,
family members were threatened. We've heard so much. This dirty
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ditty freak fest is a great, big fu not only
to all of us, but to all of the alleged
victims of his and to all all of the victims
of any sort of sexual exploitation and abuse across America,
across the globe. And you know what, this is his playbook.
I keep going back to thinking he's smiling, he's thinking
(32:33):
he won, because you know what his playbook is money talks,
crime walks. I'm very concerned about this because we've got
to think about and we're not talking enough about them,
the victims. Where is this Christina Korum, I've been asking
for weeks now, is she going to testify it?
Speaker 5 (32:47):
She is?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
She isn't.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
We don't know why isn't she testifying she is the
right hand. We have proof, we have text messages she
knew about this. We need more information, but you.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Know what, the women.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
The bottom line here is all of these alleged victims,
survivors of this dirty Diddy degenerate. Their lives will never
be the same. We may never know names hear from them.
Their lives are ruined because you know what, you don't
get over abuse like this. But I want everybody to
know about sexual servitude equals sex trafficking.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
If somehow he pulls out a not guilty verdict, he
is going to be hell on wills.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Okay, I don't like when you say if he's found
not guilty, he's going to be hell on wheels because
I'm totally getting my car car bomb like kid Cuddy.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, there's no coming.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Back from the Dye Bead, Diddy and Thedity wand I've
gotten them all here.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, he's gonna come after me.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Straight out to TISA Tails joining us at the Monahan
Federal Courthouse where Shawn Combs is being tried on a
multi count federal indictment. TISA the Star off TASA tales
on YouTube TISA, what is the latest?
Speaker 6 (34:06):
The government is this close to resting their case.
Speaker 7 (34:09):
Brenden Pahl is this close to testifying and putting the
final screws in.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
On Didty's whole Weikle operation.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
And also people are saying they're gonna he's gonna pull
KK into the fray two. Yes, Diddy's Jeffrey Epstein will
have his same Maxwell.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Name, Christina Korum. But why is this so odd?
Speaker 7 (34:28):
Because first of all, yes, I thought the same thing
you did. Where was Diddy when this happened? That's right,
He's locked up in the MDC. However, you couldn't write this.
Diddy's team in an astonishing move, the judge acts, does
anybody have any objection to the juror coming back on Friday?
The prosecution, no objection, your honor Diddy. Well, Yana, we
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need to talk to our client. We all said, what
do you need to talk about? The juror has assured
the judge that he will be fine from his vertigo
and be back Friday morning.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
Diddy's team then confirmed and said they wanted a sidebar
because they have further questions about medical.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Now, why is this so important?
Speaker 13 (35:07):
Well?
Speaker 6 (35:08):
Think about it. Diddy has been trying his best.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
To make a connection with jurors he wanted during number
six to stay, he wants during number seven out. I
think it's fair to assume that he does not have
that special connection with during number seven. However, if they
can get this third dur out on medical grounds because
it's almost a home stretcher, they get sick again.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Who knows then this alternate.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
And whoever it is did he must also think he
has a special connection with He can pull that alternate
down and he thinks he can increase his chances.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
If not for a not guilty.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
Verdict, because let's be rolled, that's not happening, but pull
it in so that he can actually get this mistrial
that he has been begging and waiting, or at the
very least have better grounds for an appeal.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
So why is this so shocking?
Speaker 7 (35:56):
Well, for one, Judge Aaron has yet to tell us
what's going on with again, Judge Aaron has been exceedingly fair.
He's expected to rule on during number seven on Friday.
That's if this mysterious sick juror actually.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Comes in again.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
Diddy has made it very clear who he thinks he
has a special connection with and today he put the
wills in motion to try to find some medical ground
to strike this juror out and to pull this alternate
that Diddy has his eyeset on again. A lot of
court intrigue, a lot going on. We hope the dur
is okay, but for right now we are waiting and
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bait it breath for what the judge decides on during
number seven and if Diddy's team was able to find
a medical excuse to dismiss this third juror and pull
in that alternate that Diddy has been making googly eyes at.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Joining us now outside the Monahan Federal Courthouse, Lauren Colin,
investigative reporter and start a pop crime TV on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Lauren, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Witness after witness, excruciating detail after excruciating detail, multiple.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Motions for miss trial by the defense.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
What do you make of it?
Speaker 12 (37:12):
Yes?
Speaker 10 (37:12):
I think I speak for everyone here.
Speaker 9 (37:15):
We are very relieved to be moving on and having
the defense start their case in chief. I think a
lot of people are anxious for the witness list as well.
We've already learned of a couple witnesses, and I believe
the first witness will be a bad boy employee who
is in charge of HR. The government has inferred numerous
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times that the bad boy HR department wasn't necessarily quote
unquote real, that they just did more of Sean Colmes's bidding.
So I guess we'll wait and see when when this
person takes the stand and Nancy. There seems to be
a lot going on behind the scenes as well. The
judge has been not super happy with the defense and
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the government as inform has seemed to be leaked to
the press.
Speaker 10 (38:02):
I mean, it's been never a dull moment.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Garry, Philip Dubay. Everybody hates HR. I mean, is there
anybody on the panel that likes HR human resources? When
you see the Human Resources lady coming down the hall, everybody.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Goes, oh, no, who did what wrong? Now somebody did
so do Bay?
Speaker 10 (38:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Calling HR as a star witness is that wise? And
plus an HR witness from bad Boy records who's been
authorizing they Let's see extortion payment.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Lauren Conlin in Cidney summer the extortion payment to Cassie
Ventura's mother where they want a twenty grand and the
quid pro quo was not leaking orgy videos, freak off
videos of their daughter who was just starting in her
music career. That was through bad Boy records, all the
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casts that float through them, that the sex workers were
paid with the buying their drugs buy bad Boy employees.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I mean, you're putting up a.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Bad boy h R person that cross examination ouch, I mean,
is that the way to kick a case off debate
as one of your star witnesses.
Speaker 16 (39:25):
Of course, it is one of the best kept secrets
about HR in every corporation, in every business throughout America
is they're there to protect the company. They don't really
care about employee interests. As a practical matter, they do
damage control, risk management. They try to assess what if
anything that's getting reported to them or what if anything
they've observed could put the company at risk of liability.
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So they're not going to say or do anything that
could harm the company because that's where their loyalty lies.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Okay, you're still pretending that this is a company instead
of Sean Combe's alt ego to doctor Bethany Marshall joining
us renow, it's like the analysts out of the LA Jurisdiction,
author of deal Breakers. You can see her on Peacock
and find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Why
does everybody hate HR?
Speaker 3 (40:13):
You know, Nancy, most of my patients who come in
with major depressive disorder or sudden psychiatric symptoms, often they've
gotten into trouble with their companies and HR has come
in and confronted them. And Philip Dubay is right. HR
is always on the side of the company. Although, as
you pointed out, what company right? So this is basically
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HR doing pdd's bidding. But it's not a good idea.
It's not a good look when you see HR coming
down the hall, and also when you get in trouble
with HR, everybody else knows about And whenever I submit
insurance claims, my patient's first question is are they going
to find out about this in HR? They're terrified of HR?
Speaker 2 (40:55):
And you know what's so interesting, I don't know? Interesting
is the right world?
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Let me say sham Lynn Shaw joining me, founder executive
director Lynn's Warriors, committed to ending sex trafficking and sex
abuse of girls and Women's really the head of h
R in a sex trafficking case?
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Where was h R when all of this was happening.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Yeah, HR equals hell racket exactly, Nancy, where were they when,
in my opinion, this is nothing more of this bad
boy worldwide Entertainment production company with their names splattered all
over this skyscraper down the street from me here in
New York was doing all these things to these victims,
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alleged victims and these women. Where were they to step
in and say, hey, you know, if this was even
a legitimate business, which I don't think it was at all,
where you can't do this, dirty diddy, because this will
affect business, and I use that loosely business. You better
stop with these women, You better clean up your act.
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Nobody did anything. This is such a criminal enterprise. I
can clearly see it. It is the playbook vulnerable people,
powerful people over less fortunate people. So this hell racket
equals HR is a big zero. I bet you there
was no office, no HR, no anything. He had one
or two people that were there to protect dirty Ditty
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and the enterprise, the criminal enterprise, in my opinion, So
let's put the focus back on victims and survivors of
this dirty ditty and all victims and survivors of sexual exploitation.
Where's the HR companies, for all of them, they.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Do not exist.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
Dirty ditty done, going down that hell racket. No HR
in that big building down the street.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
We are waiting as justice unfolds. Thank you to our guests,
but especially you for being with us. Nancy Gray signing off,
I'll see you tomorrow night, six and nine o'clock sharp
Eastern end.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Until then, good night friend.
Speaker 7 (43:00):
This is
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Where was HR when all of this was happening.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
You pointed out what company?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Right?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
So this is basically HR doing P Diddy's bidding.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
HR equals hell racket. Nobody did anything. It is the
playbook powerful people over less fortunate people.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
The jury is watching you butt naked or maybe he
had a burka on, and they're all looking over at him.
What can he do? What did he do?
Speaker 6 (00:33):
I'll tell you what he did. He actually looked like
he was a little bit proud.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
It was odd.
Speaker 6 (00:38):
It seemed like he was proud of what the jurors saw.
Speaker 7 (00:41):
And I literally sat there and said that man has
not learned a thing.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Hotel nights would last up to thirty hours.
Speaker 7 (00:58):
The freakings weren't just like bamm bam, thank you, ma'am.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
Positions held for three four hours.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
The ouch I'd want to go see the chiropractor, a.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Cracked out Loki and the Marvel.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Universe told that position, aren't your back? What breathe in?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
What?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Straight out?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
To Tisa Tails joining us at the Monahan Federal Courthouse
where Shawn Combs is being tried on a multi count
federal indictment. Tisa the Star off Tasa tales on YouTube
TISA What is the Latest Nancy?
Speaker 6 (01:30):
Today was an incredible day for the prosecution.
Speaker 7 (01:33):
They are this close to resting their case, but there
were a couple of bombshells put out. First of all,
Briance still did his best to create Fulton Counting Magic.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
Basically trying to get us into the whole lifestyle.
Speaker 7 (01:46):
Apparently, if you're working on an album, Apparently, if you're
working toward.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
A goal, it doesn't matter if you break the law.
That's right. The defense put.
Speaker 7 (01:55):
Out, it's I guess this whole thing, that this is
a lifestyle.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
Unfortunately, they seem to forget that it was illegal.
Speaker 7 (02:02):
And one of the most shocking moments, they asked Brendan
Paul whether he thought his boss was a criminal. They
asked whether they thought his boss was installed in crime.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
They literally asked them, do you think you're a criminal?
Speaker 7 (02:17):
However, what was their conclusion, according to Brendan Tull, absolutely not.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
Mister Paul, Are you forgetting how you came to be
in this place? Because I feel like we need to
roll it back like Freaky Friday. How did you end
up here?
Speaker 7 (02:33):
You are arrested with drugs at thought OPA Loca Airport
while you were about to get on a plane, a
private plane with your boss in the course of business
and transport drugs that your boss left.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
The night before in his apartment.
Speaker 7 (02:50):
Now, I might not be the greatest legal mind ever,
but I'm pretty sure in the United States.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Of America, you have just admitted to plenty of crimes.
Imagine a man that is on the stand because you
had to take community for.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
Doing illegal stuff, sitting there talking about what a great
man he was, and he only maybe bought five hundred
and drugs here a thousand and hair, sir, what about
the five thousand and weed?
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Again?
Speaker 7 (03:17):
A lot of people were scratching their heads, and a
lot of people were looking at Brian still saying you
did all this because you were working on an album, which,
by the way, flopped.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
You guys, Brian Steele.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
Was telling bedtime stories and fairy tales. He needs to
write for Disney and Pixar because the story he was
trying to paint was.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
Not grounded in reality. The defense promise at the beginning
of this trial that they might go to the eighteenth
They had the whole world. They were gonna show what's
a lifestyle?
Speaker 7 (03:46):
Instead, they showed that Brian still what's moreland Mark Agnifilio,
Tenny Garrett goes, and of course Xavier Donaldson need to
work for Disney Pixar because they were writing bedtime stories
mixed with a.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Little fairy tale.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
You guys, But it looks like the defense and a
shocking turn of events, has admitted defeat or at the
very least and ungrounded confidence. They went from saying that
their whole trial is going to be five days for
them to put on their defense case, they have now
shortened it down to one maybe two days now. Listen,
a lot of people gassed in the courtroom one to
(04:24):
two days. Sir, you know you've lost the crowd because
the first thing I thought, is Kanye going to testify?
Speaker 6 (04:30):
You know you've lost the crowd.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
Where even Kanye West has decided it's not a good
idea for him to get on the stand. There is
not enough time for anybody to testify. Again, what does
this mean? It means that some people think that did
he might get off because he's over confident, But again,
pride goes before the fall.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Where is this offense?
Speaker 7 (04:50):
Where are all the celebrities that were going to testify
on this behalf. Where all the employees that are going
to testify it was just a lifestyle and they knew nothing.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
It's very very some people see this confidence.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
I see it as a red flag that the prosecution
has proven their case without a shred of doubt.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
Again, where are all these employees.
Speaker 7 (05:12):
That can testify it wasn't a criminal organization where all these.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Employees were feuding.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
What the prosecution witnesses said, again, it's a bold move.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
We'll see what it means.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
But Taysa, How did Sean comes respond?
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Listen today, Diddy? This is Diddy's worst week ever. Diddy
was begging for during number seven to be kicked off.
They even started some nonsense asking about to acquire into
the medical records about the jura that could not be
there one Wednesday. Now, I'm not gonna lie and Nancy
party me said, I hope that during gets better, but
(05:47):
can they maybe be sick on Friday too, so we
could get a five day week. As you see, that
did not happen. However, it did create another opportunity. We
were also happy to see.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
Didty literally got all of.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
His motions rejected and that secret phone that Didd he
tried to hide from the prosecutors that they are going
to look at for a possible obstruction of justice charge.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Was admitted in evidence. Okay, so a lot of crushing
defeats to Diddy.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
You have the jurors, you have, the jury stays diverse.
But Diddy just got bad news upon bad news. But
as it stands, and we know what the Diddy trial,
things changed daily. The jurors that we have are going
to be the one to go to deliberation, which, by
the way, all right, which by the way, Diddy's team
has informed us that they're not even going to put
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on a five day defense. They're going to be done
in one to two business days.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
You guys.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
Again, some people are saying this is a sign that
did he thinks, say proven their case.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
I see it as a sign of desperation, or maybe
Diddy says it's over and I don't want to have
to pay you guys another moment. I don't want to
pay you guys for another moment, because again, Diddy literally
paid millions of dollars in order for people to try
to make rotten zucchini into something. We're not talking limbs
and a lemonade. We're talking rotten zucchini and what do
(07:07):
you do with that? Well, according to most cooks, just
like Didny's career, his life, and his chance of freedom,
it looks like it just got tossed in the trash.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Joining us now outside the Monahan Courthouse in downtown Manhattan,
Lauren Conlin, star.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Off Pop Crime TV on YouTube.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Lauren, thank you for being with us, Lauren, I understand
that there was so much baby oil at a free cough.
We have already heard about two slip and falls. Listen, Lauren.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
Jonathan Perez is Shaan Combs's fourth assistant to take the
stand with Immunity. Perez testifies that he worked directly under
Christina Koram, who instructed him on setting up King Knights,
which korm described as Combs's private time with a woman.
Perez says the task was usually left to the night's
staff and he only set up for about five of
these nights, even had to purchase lingerie for Jane for
(08:02):
the King Knights. Perez says he cleaned up the messy
rooms afterward and they were often covered in oil. Replying
to Korum about how a cleanup was going, Perez texted,
slipped and fell twice already Perez says Combs also sent
him to pick up drugs.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Okay, objection, ew what happened? The guys had two slip
and falls in all the oil.
Speaker 9 (08:26):
Yes, Unfortunately that is what we saw in evidence when
we saw these text messages between Christina Korum and Jonathan Perez,
one of Ditty's assistants. We also saw a text message
from Christina Korum to Jane actually stating that the rooms
that she and Ditty would use there always would be
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extra damage charges because they were all white and more
oil filled than normal.
Speaker 10 (08:54):
So it's been a bit stomach turning.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Nancy joining us now outside the Monahan courtouse is Tisa
tells Tisa, I understand that Sean Combs has been First
of all, he tried the Bible. Okay, then I guess
this lawyer's told him that's not a good idea. You
need to stop that right now. Reading the Bible in
front of the jury. Now, if you had any history
of ever going to church or reading the Bible in
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the past, it might not have been a bad move.
But using the Bible as a prop I'm surprised he
wasn't struck by a bolt of lightning that said. Now,
he's got a new book he's bringing into court, The.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Magic of Believing.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Now, if I'm right, that's all about manifesting your truth,
like manifesting a not guilty.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Is this real?
Speaker 6 (09:46):
It is actually real? He has some sort of manifestation book.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
But again, well each week at this point, I think
he's going to bring in a guide to the Dark
Arts from Hogwarts if we let him keep going.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
He is sliding down the walls. And the thing is,
he keeps trying to bring in these props to me,
the Bible perfect prop for him.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Okay, like you said, you're about to have thunder and
lightning in the courtroom.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
Now he's all about manifesting. He's trying to remind.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
Us of the brain marching he gave the nation for
the last ten years and bring that in. But at
this point it's turned into a joke, which makes me
believe how much is our is a legal team actually
monitoring social media? Because this is turned into a joke again,
what is he going to bring in? What is he
going to bring in next? How to make friends and
win enemies? I mean, no one really knows what's going on.
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So again Diddy is trying his best to turn this
into a circus, but the judge has a firm hold
on the courtroom and he's letting it know this is
going to be above board.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
So he's struggling. He's definitely struggling.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Crime Stores with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Shawn Combs in the courtroom manifesting I'm not guilty verdict.
Speaker 11 (11:05):
Listen is Sean Didy Coombs trying to manifest a not
guilty verdict. The music mogul has been spotted carrying a
self help book, The Magic of Believing, back and forth
to court. Legal experts say it isn't uncommon for defendants
to turn to some sort of coping mechanism during lengthy
and stressful trials, and Comb's book of choice is used
by many for mental fortitude in challenging situations.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Doctor Bethany manifesting for those of us that aren't really
familiar with that, could you explain what it is? Is
it like, oh, wish it and it comes true?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Like I dream of Genie?
Speaker 9 (11:42):
You know?
Speaker 6 (11:42):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Manifesting is this idea that if you form a thought
in your mind, you can materialize it in the environment.
So let's say you want to be an actress, You
meditate and you imagine yourself being in front of the camera,
being enjoying being, you know, getting your next oscar, and
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that if you can sum it up enough feelings about
that event, then you can rearrange sort of what's going
on in the environment to make that event happen. I mean,
you know whether or not this is true?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
So P did he controls?
Speaker 5 (12:25):
You?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Actually just say.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Whether or not this is true? Okay? Whether did you
say that? Because I think you did, Whether it's not true?
How about going.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
To school and getting a job to advance your goal?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
What about what are Okay?
Speaker 5 (12:41):
So you don't tell your clients sit there and wish
it and it will happen.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Okay, Okay, So just like P did, he tries to
control his victims. I think he's trying to control God.
I mean it's like he's trying to go to the universe.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Meant, Bethany, please, unless we really need to drag God
into this, let's please leave him her out of it.
Just first of all, you evaded the question do you
tell your clients to manifest?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I do not, but many of my Beverly Hills clients
come in with a goal they're trying to manifest. So
I try to turn it into real life, you know, actualization, meeting,
acting on their both their own behalf to reach the goal,
you know, Nancy.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Okay, now you're losing me. You're totally losing me in
all the words or of words. Okay, thank goodness, you
don't tell your clients to manifest. Okay, Sidney Sumner. What
does Kanye and his million dollar titanium teeth drool have
to do with Sean Combs?
Speaker 12 (13:44):
Well, Nancy, Kanye West has been one of the only
public supporters of Diddy throughout this thing, and it's interesting
because they weren't really close before this. Sean Combs and
Kanye West kind of had a falling out over Kanye
White Lives Matter t shirt line and they haven't really
been close since then. But now that Sean Kalms is
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behind bars, Kanye West has apparently been reaching out to
his sons and offering support. And we saw that devolved
from pushing Sean Jalon's merchandise on his website to selling
swastika T shirts on his website in this tie raid
that kind of unfolded during Super Bowl Week.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Oh yes, let's take a look at the swastika T
shirt back to Troy Slayton, joining US veteran trial lawyer
out of LA. Troy Slayton, I mean, with friends like this,
why would they bring Kanye to court, a known Hitler sympathizer.
Speaker 13 (14:45):
I don't think Ditty's defense team had anything to do
with this. I think Kanye did this on his own
because he's selling free Diddy merchandise. If I was Ditty's
defense team, I'm not calling in UH Kanye West with
his UH, with his swastikas and his hal Hitler merchandise.
Speaker 10 (15:04):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 13 (15:06):
I think Kanye did this absolutely on his own because
he's trying to sell merch He's trying to make money
off all the free publicity surrounding this trial.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Toroy Slaytony, it cannot help Shawn Combs, not that I
want him to be helped, but it can't help Shawn Combs.
For Kanye to show up, I don't know if ther
even realized what was happening.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
But it's done now. Can I ask you.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Very quickly, Troy Slayton, I'm gonna circle back to the
chaos in the courtroom surrounding GURR number six, Okay, and
will that be reversible error?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
If there's a conviction.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Could you explain why, whether he's black, white, purple, or green,
that juror had to go.
Speaker 13 (15:52):
Well, I understand why the judge dismissed them, but I
also understand why it's going to be fertile ground for
al because there's this little thing in this country called
the Constitution, and the equal protection clause of the fourteenth
Amendment says everybody has to be treated equal. And how
that applies to this trial is that you can't dismiss
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somebody because of their race. You can't. And so if
the jurors, I mean, if.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
The prosecutor Slaton, yes.
Speaker 10 (16:24):
Nancy, if the prosecutors we all.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
No color, we all accept that a juror cannot be
thrown off or thrown out of the Va Dyer process
because of their race. Batsan Vie, Kentucky. It's an age
old case, right. We all know that this jar was
placed on the jury. He was not deselected because of
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his race. But Troy, he stated, he doesn't live in
the jurisdiction.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
He can't be on the jury.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
You can't get away, you can't behave that constitutional right.
Speaker 13 (17:01):
They didn't even give him a chance to explain, Nancy.
They kicked him out. He gave inconsistent answers. At one
point he made he said he lived in New Jersey.
The other point he said he lived in the Bronx.
So it's not clear exactly where he lived or if
he moved.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Okay, let's get some clarification very quickly, Sidney Sumner, what
exactly did he say?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Plays school Troy Slayton Nancy.
Speaker 12 (17:26):
The judge said that the issue of race could not
outweigh the fact that this juror was possibly lying or
trying to stay on this panel. The juror was very
unclear and whether or not he actually resided in New
Jersey or if he resided in the Bronx full time,
and that inconsistency led the judge to believe that this
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juror was not being truthful because he wanted to stay
on the panel, and the juror should not be that
invested in the case unless he had some kind of
bias toward it. So the judge said, I'm sorry, but.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
His words exactly, Sidney, where did he say he lived?
Speaker 13 (18:08):
Well?
Speaker 12 (18:08):
At first on his jury questionnaire, this juror answered that
he lived in the Bronx with his aunt. Then in
casual conversation with court staff, he was talking about living
in New Jersey with his girlfriend and his daughter. So
when it came back again, he told the judge, no, no, no,
I spend most of my time in the Bronx. So
we have this constant inconsistency of well, you said this,
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now you said that, now you said this again. So
I don't understand what is the truth here, And at
that point he just could not be trusted.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Joining us now outside the Monahan Federal Courthouse where Seawan
Combs is on trial in a multi count federal indictment
for sex trafficking and rico standing by Lauren Conlin, star
a pop crime TV on YouTube. Lauren, thank you for
being with us. Lauren, What do you make of what
just went down in the courtroom today?
Speaker 9 (19:05):
In court, the government started with their first witness being
Brendan Paul. Brendan Paul was a former personal assistant for
Sean Colmbs and if you recall, Brendan Paul was actually
arrested at a Miami airport in March of twenty twenty four,
and the media had essentially dubbed Brendan Paul as this
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quote unquote alleged drug mule Now, Brendan Paul only had
about er point zero seven grams of cocaine on him,
and he actually explained to us in the gallery and
to the jury that he was cleaning up one of
Shawn Colms's hotel rooms and he found it laying around.
He took it with him and then he just forgot
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to take it out of his pocket.
Speaker 10 (19:49):
He later told us that he had a great lawyer,
and his lawyer was able to get these charges dropped.
Speaker 9 (19:55):
But he never told anyone, never told law enforcement who
who the cocaine belonged to, and he never talked to
Seawan Colmes after this arrest, and he really hadn't seen
him until he testified today.
Speaker 10 (20:09):
Now Brendan Paul's background.
Speaker 9 (20:11):
He worked for Colmbs Enterprises as a personal assistant from
twenty twenty two to March of twenty twenty four after
his arrest, about eighteen months. And this kid was actually
a d one walk on basketball player for Syracuse.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
Now.
Speaker 9 (20:29):
He testified that he wanted to be in the music
industry and he was pretty excited about this opportunity to
work for Shawn Colmes. His duties really included tasks like
packing Diddy's suit cases, organizing things, cleaning up his studio
after he was done, and he testified that he only
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set up these quote unquote wild King Knights a handful
of times. He also testified that he did get drugs
for Ditty between five and ten times. However, he said
it most likely was less than ten times, and he
would do this through other assistance. He would text them
to see what Diddy needed, or he would do it
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through KK and very rarely would he.
Speaker 10 (21:14):
Do it through Sean Combs himself.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
He also talked about seeing Jane very frequently and he
would set up these king Knights for Ditty and Jane,
And during Brian Steele's cross examination, Steele said to him,
did you speak to Jane.
Speaker 10 (21:31):
After these Wild king Knights?
Speaker 9 (21:33):
And he said yes, And then Brian Steele would ask
did she seem like she was regretful or she didn't
want to be there? Did you sense anything like that
from her? And Brendan Paul's answer was absolutely not. Brendan
Paul also spoke about an occasion where Ditty had asked
him to try a drug for him, and he wanted
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him to try it so he could see if it
was good or not. And Brendan Paul said that he
did this, but he'd did this because he wanted to
be loyal to Diddy.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
We are alive at the Monahan Federal Courthouse where Shawn
Combs aka Ditty and many other names, is on trial
facing prosecution in a Multicut federal indictment including charges for
sex trafficking. And Rico joining me at the courthouse. Tisa
Tels investigator and star off Tisa tales on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I understand the.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Judge is furious about a leak. A leak, Tisa.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
What happened, guys, what happened in the courtroom today shocked everybody.
Judge Aaron is done playing nice. He went in there
with his cloak flying behind the way. He was Lord
Voldemort coming to Hogwarts. He literally accused the defense council
and a little bit the prosecution.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Accused them of lying and leaking.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
Information that can only been available to the people in
a sealed courtroom.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
It was incredible.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
On top of that, Diddy's team set they're going to
rest their case in two to five trial days.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
However, there was a leak that actually came out from
people that were in a closed seal courtroom.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
The only people there were the defense and the prosecution.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
The issue was an article. There was an article that
was actually published. The judge hinted that it was last night.
He didn't tell us what it was, and he said
the source of the article had to be one of
the parties because again it was a closed courtroom, nobody
was supposed to know about it, and it was under
federal court ordered. Now again, the prosecution was like, it's
not us, your honor. However, the judge literally hammered Mark Agnifilio,
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the lead council for DIDI, saying when.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Did you find out about this article?
Speaker 7 (23:42):
Mark Agnophilio sat there, I don't know, stumbling over his words.
Then the judge said, but when were you made aware?
Speaker 6 (23:51):
He still didn't know.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
Finally he said, oh, we think when the prosecution sent
it to US. Marine Collmy literally looked like, what do
you mean we They were caught flat footed. They didn't
have any excuses. The judge finally said, listen, do you
know what's going to happen moving forward?
Speaker 6 (24:08):
First of all, he said he has the right to
open up an investigation. He said, this is serious, he said,
moving forward.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
If this happens again, he will, they will literally seize phones,
they will conduct a thorough investigation. They will uh, they
will literally question all parties under penalty of perjury, and
they will get to the bottom of those leaks. He said,
moving forward though he is putting the defense and prosecution,
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but everybody knew he was talking to the defense on
on notice that if any leaks come out of their count,
if anything is signed off on, and anything escapes, then
they are holding the lead prosecutor or defense attorney accountable
for anything that happens in their count.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Judge Aaron means business. It was. It was. It was
shocking what happened in the courtroom.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
You do not want to be the source of a leak,
and you don't want anybody on your team to be responsible.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And that goes right down to the law.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Clerks and the summer interns that may have xerox papers
or hand it over discovery, because it reflects on you.
And once you lose your credibility in the courtroom technical
legal term.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
You're screwed. End of story.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Now, we just heard from Tisa Tales joining us at
the courthouse that the defense has now dropped their own bomb,
stating they're only going to put up two to five
days of defense witnesses straight out to Brian Fitzgibbons. Joining
us Director Operations, USPA nation Wide Security, he leads a
team of investigators.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Brian, welcome back, Thank you for.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Being with us. You and I have been in a
lot of cases. You has witnessed me as the prosecutor.
The defense always does it. Sadly, it took me about
ten years to catch on to it. I would always
believe them when they would say, oh, we're going to
be at least two or three weeks, and it never
was two or three weeks. But I would always take
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them at their word and arrange my rebuttal witnesses to
come to town or to show up at the courthouse
in two or three weeks. And then sudden they go, oh, no, yeah,
it's just going to be like two days. And it's
a way to catch the state flat footed. But I
think it's also, again pardon the pun, puffing up when
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you make your case to be.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
More substantial than it really is going to be.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Have you ever and all the times you've testified, fitz
Gibbons seen the defense put on the length of a
case they promise up front, Ever, No.
Speaker 14 (26:42):
I think you make a great point, Nancy. What the
defense is going to do here is, you know they've
used their private investigators, and they're going to present a
simple shortcase to promote reasonable doubt. Right, to keep it
simple for the jury and point out where they're flaws
in the prosecution's case and provide that reasonable doubt.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
The worst Netflix until in the world.
Speaker 9 (27:09):
Two hundred bottles of baby oil and nine hundred bottles
of astroblide.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Hold it right there, r your bad breath in rhino peels.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
He's in control of everything, beat her and subjected her
to three male escorts.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
She was the sex sleeve, and.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
He's asking for his very own dateline special.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I just want to wash my mouth out.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
With lestrine, with lysol, with rubbing alcohol after I talk
about the Sean Combe's case. And I suspect some of
the jurors feel the same way because when they were
watching the States exhibit triple X the freak Cough videos,
they were actually turning away from the monitor, went sing
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visibly hiding their faces.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Do you blame them?
Speaker 5 (27:58):
But now may freakof Christmas? Everybody?
Speaker 15 (28:03):
Special Agent Penland also reads texts from January twenty thirteen,
where Combs ask Cassie Ventura if she wants to celebrate
a late Christmas with a four man freakoff. Comb's text Adventura,
word for word, want to celebrate Christmas and have a
freak off tomorrow or Friday. Ventura then got to work
hiring the men with staggered arrivals for January eleventh and twelfth,
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reaching out to three men personally and arranging for the
fourth from an escort service.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Doctor Bethany Marshall again, I need a shrink and a drink,
but says so'm I tey to len how to settle
for just a shrink?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Did you hear that?
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Guy's Bethany Marshall. Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us out of
the LA jurisdiction. She is the author of deal Breaker.
You can see her now on peacock and you can
find her at Doctorbethany Marshall dot com.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Did you hear that Merry Christmas?
Speaker 5 (28:58):
You want to celebrate a late Christmas with a four
man freak cough? In other words, you have sex with
four sex workers?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
You know, Nancy?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
I hear somebody who's compulsive and addicted in terms of
compulsivity sex addiction. One of the things we know about
sex addiction is that the thoughts of sex or whatever
the fetishized view of sex is, becomes so prominent in
the perpetrator's mind that they often can't focus. Often they
can't even hold down a job, or they present as
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somebody with attention deficit disorder because their mind keeps drifting
to sex. And then in terms of addiction, you know,
we think of sex as driving these free coughs, but
there's so much drugs involved. And I hear in the
testimony that he'll say, you know, I'll be up for
twenty four hours or forty eight hours, or there's some
chatter back and forth and the text about that. And
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to me, Nancy, I think methaphetamine that's the one drug
that could keep somebody up for that many days. And
we know with methamphetamine, especially in homicide, there's often overkill.
So if he already likes power and violence and he's
on meth, that's even going to ratchet up a level.
And Nancy real quickly the jurors wincing. Wincing is an
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instinctual response to loss of life. It's like seeing a
plane fall out of the sky or a big dog barking,
or a spider or someone ejected from a car. If
they are wincing, they're not just viewing sex, They're viewing battery.
What is being done to these women? Are they being sodomized?
Are they being chained in compromising positions? Are they so
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out of it they don't know what's happening?
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Then?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Are they being whipped? I would be so curious to
know what are they seeing that is life threatening?
Speaker 5 (30:43):
The way you just said that, Doctor Bethany, it's overwhelming,
It really is, because those videos are placing the jurors
at the freak offs and Linshaw joining me, founder director
of Lynn's Warriors, an organization committed to ending sex trafficking
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and sex abuse of women and girls. When I say
the words freak cough, it's like eating a dirt sandwich,
free cough, hotel night, king night. Wow, that's certainly airbrushing
the whole scenario, putting perfume on the pig. It's torture,
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it's sex abuse, it's coerced rape.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Free cough. That sounds like it could be a music festival.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Hotel night.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
That sounds like a fun getaway right where the twins
and I would camp out on the bed, order room service,
woo right and King Night.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
It's anything but that for the victims.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Has anyone heard of sexual servitude? This is part with
the justice system now we are working into sex trafficking.
It is coercion, is force, it is fraud, sexual servitude.
We've seen the testimony. We've heard they were forced into this,
they were under the influence, they were threatened with their lives,
family members were threatened. We've heard so much. This dirty
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ditty freak fest is a great, big fu not only
to all of us, but to all of the alleged
victims of his and to all all of the victims
of any sort of sexual exploitation and abuse across America,
across the globe. And you know what, this is his playbook.
I keep going back to thinking he's smiling, he's thinking
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he won, because you know what his playbook is money talks,
crime walks. I'm very concerned about this because we've got
to think about and we're not talking enough about them,
the victims. Where is this Christina Korum, I've been asking
for weeks now, is she going to testify it?
Speaker 5 (32:47):
She is?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
She isn't.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
We don't know why isn't she testifying she is the
right hand. We have proof, we have text messages she
knew about this. We need more information, but you.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Know what, the women.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
The bottom line here is all of these alleged victims,
survivors of this dirty Diddy degenerate. Their lives will never
be the same. We may never know names hear from them.
Their lives are ruined because you know what, you don't
get over abuse like this. But I want everybody to
know about sexual servitude equals sex trafficking.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
If somehow he pulls out a not guilty verdict, he
is going to be hell on wills.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Okay, I don't like when you say if he's found
not guilty, he's going to be hell on wheels because
I'm totally getting my car car bomb like kid Cuddy.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, there's no coming.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Back from the Dye Bead, Diddy and Thedity wand I've
gotten them all here.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, he's gonna come after me.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Straight out to TISA Tails joining us at the Monahan
Federal Courthouse where Shawn Combs is being tried on a
multi count federal indictment. TISA the Star off TASA tales
on YouTube TISA, what is the latest?
Speaker 6 (34:06):
The government is this close to resting their case.
Speaker 7 (34:09):
Brenden Pahl is this close to testifying and putting the
final screws in.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
On Didty's whole Weikle operation.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
And also people are saying they're gonna he's gonna pull
KK into the fray two. Yes, Diddy's Jeffrey Epstein will
have his same Maxwell.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Name, Christina Korum. But why is this so odd?
Speaker 7 (34:28):
Because first of all, yes, I thought the same thing
you did. Where was Diddy when this happened? That's right,
He's locked up in the MDC. However, you couldn't write this.
Diddy's team in an astonishing move, the judge acts, does
anybody have any objection to the juror coming back on Friday?
The prosecution, no objection, your honor Diddy. Well, Yana, we
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need to talk to our client. We all said, what
do you need to talk about? The juror has assured
the judge that he will be fine from his vertigo
and be back Friday morning.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
Diddy's team then confirmed and said they wanted a sidebar
because they have further questions about medical.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Now, why is this so important?
Speaker 13 (35:07):
Well?
Speaker 6 (35:08):
Think about it. Diddy has been trying his best.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
To make a connection with jurors he wanted during number
six to stay, he wants during number seven out. I
think it's fair to assume that he does not have
that special connection with during number seven. However, if they
can get this third dur out on medical grounds because
it's almost a home stretcher, they get sick again.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Who knows then this alternate.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
And whoever it is did he must also think he
has a special connection with He can pull that alternate
down and he thinks he can increase his chances.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
If not for a not guilty.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
Verdict, because let's be rolled, that's not happening, but pull
it in so that he can actually get this mistrial
that he has been begging and waiting, or at the
very least have better grounds for an appeal.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
So why is this so shocking?
Speaker 7 (35:56):
Well, for one, Judge Aaron has yet to tell us
what's going on with again, Judge Aaron has been exceedingly fair.
He's expected to rule on during number seven on Friday.
That's if this mysterious sick juror actually.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Comes in again.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
Diddy has made it very clear who he thinks he
has a special connection with and today he put the
wills in motion to try to find some medical ground
to strike this juror out and to pull this alternate
that Diddy has his eyeset on again. A lot of
court intrigue, a lot going on. We hope the dur
is okay, but for right now we are waiting and
(36:34):
bait it breath for what the judge decides on during
number seven and if Diddy's team was able to find
a medical excuse to dismiss this third juror and pull
in that alternate that Diddy has been making googly eyes at.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Joining us now outside the Monahan Federal Courthouse, Lauren Colin,
investigative reporter and start a pop crime TV on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Lauren, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Witness after witness, excruciating detail after excruciating detail, multiple.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Motions for miss trial by the defense.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
What do you make of it?
Speaker 12 (37:12):
Yes?
Speaker 10 (37:12):
I think I speak for everyone here.
Speaker 9 (37:15):
We are very relieved to be moving on and having
the defense start their case in chief. I think a
lot of people are anxious for the witness list as well.
We've already learned of a couple witnesses, and I believe
the first witness will be a bad boy employee who
is in charge of HR. The government has inferred numerous
(37:35):
times that the bad boy HR department wasn't necessarily quote
unquote real, that they just did more of Sean Colmes's bidding.
So I guess we'll wait and see when when this
person takes the stand and Nancy. There seems to be
a lot going on behind the scenes as well. The
judge has been not super happy with the defense and
(37:58):
the government as inform has seemed to be leaked to
the press.
Speaker 10 (38:02):
I mean, it's been never a dull moment.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Garry, Philip Dubay. Everybody hates HR. I mean, is there
anybody on the panel that likes HR human resources? When
you see the Human Resources lady coming down the hall, everybody.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Goes, oh, no, who did what wrong? Now somebody did
so do Bay?
Speaker 10 (38:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Calling HR as a star witness is that wise? And
plus an HR witness from bad Boy records who's been
authorizing they Let's see extortion payment.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Lauren Conlin in Cidney summer the extortion payment to Cassie
Ventura's mother where they want a twenty grand and the
quid pro quo was not leaking orgy videos, freak off
videos of their daughter who was just starting in her
music career. That was through bad Boy records, all the
(39:01):
casts that float through them, that the sex workers were
paid with the buying their drugs buy bad Boy employees.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I mean, you're putting up a.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Bad boy h R person that cross examination ouch, I mean,
is that the way to kick a case off debate
as one of your star witnesses.
Speaker 16 (39:25):
Of course, it is one of the best kept secrets
about HR in every corporation, in every business throughout America
is they're there to protect the company. They don't really
care about employee interests. As a practical matter, they do
damage control, risk management. They try to assess what if
anything that's getting reported to them or what if anything
they've observed could put the company at risk of liability.
(39:49):
So they're not going to say or do anything that
could harm the company because that's where their loyalty lies.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Okay, you're still pretending that this is a company instead
of Sean Combe's alt ego to doctor Bethany Marshall joining
us renow, it's like the analysts out of the LA Jurisdiction,
author of deal Breakers. You can see her on Peacock
and find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Why
does everybody hate HR?
Speaker 3 (40:13):
You know, Nancy, most of my patients who come in
with major depressive disorder or sudden psychiatric symptoms, often they've
gotten into trouble with their companies and HR has come
in and confronted them. And Philip Dubay is right. HR
is always on the side of the company. Although, as
you pointed out, what company right? So this is basically
(40:34):
HR doing pdd's bidding. But it's not a good idea.
It's not a good look when you see HR coming
down the hall, and also when you get in trouble
with HR, everybody else knows about And whenever I submit
insurance claims, my patient's first question is are they going
to find out about this in HR? They're terrified of HR?
Speaker 2 (40:55):
And you know what's so interesting, I don't know? Interesting
is the right world?
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Let me say sham Lynn Shaw joining me, founder executive
director Lynn's Warriors, committed to ending sex trafficking and sex
abuse of girls and Women's really the head of h
R in a sex trafficking case?
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Where was h R when all of this was happening.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Yeah, HR equals hell racket exactly, Nancy, where were they when,
in my opinion, this is nothing more of this bad
boy worldwide Entertainment production company with their names splattered all
over this skyscraper down the street from me here in
New York was doing all these things to these victims,
(41:41):
alleged victims and these women. Where were they to step
in and say, hey, you know, if this was even
a legitimate business, which I don't think it was at all,
where you can't do this, dirty diddy, because this will
affect business, and I use that loosely business. You better
stop with these women, You better clean up your act.
(42:02):
Nobody did anything. This is such a criminal enterprise. I
can clearly see it. It is the playbook vulnerable people,
powerful people over less fortunate people. So this hell racket
equals HR is a big zero. I bet you there
was no office, no HR, no anything. He had one
or two people that were there to protect dirty Ditty
(42:24):
and the enterprise, the criminal enterprise, in my opinion, So
let's put the focus back on victims and survivors of
this dirty ditty and all victims and survivors of sexual exploitation.
Where's the HR companies, for all of them, they.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Do not exist.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
Dirty ditty done, going down that hell racket. No HR
in that big building down the street.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
We are waiting as justice unfolds. Thank you to our guests,
but especially you for being with us. Nancy Gray signing off,
I'll see you tomorrow night, six and nine o'clock sharp
Eastern end.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Until then, good night friend.
Speaker 7 (43:00):
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