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June 14, 2023 50 mins

As the girls officially begin the era of entering their "mid-twenties," and begin reflecting on their adulthood thus far, they discuss things they feel they're just too old or too young for, from plastic surgery, to "dress codes," dating culture, and talking phases. 

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Speaker 1 (00:05):

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I love how you say greetings because it reminds me
of the Katy Perry song you know what I know
a place? Oh you know because at the beginning of
the song they say, greetings, load ones.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Oh, let's take a journey.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
So a second larre to connect that you.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
It is literally red in New York City right now,
and it's so funny because Indy and I were just
talking about this. So due to the Canada wildfires if
you're aloof Canada has a lot of wildfires going on
right now, and that smog is drifting towards the East coast,
especially the Upper East Coast.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Right now.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
New York as a state has the worst air quality
in the US, which is nuts and great thing. We
live here, and it's really crazy because we look at
our window and right now it's kind of more of
like a yellowish green, which is crazy.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Baby, babe, where do you see green?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
I see a green tint.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I mean everybody sees color differently, but it's color then,
but earlier it was like a dark orange, like very weird.
I would say, what around like two pm? Because right
now it's four and yesterday was nuts because Sidney walks
out of our building before we even knew about the wildfires. Really,
Sidney walks out of the building and goes, oh, my god,
there's a fire on our block or something, because I

see four fire trucks outside of our house and I'm
freaking out. And then finally we all do some research
and we realize that the Canada wildfires this was causing it.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
But I mean, the.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Color, uh disorientation is freaking me out so bad right now.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
It's crazy because I literally get not an ounce of
natural light. Migraine like magrine was literally like I even
have to describe it. It is a black hole dark hole. Yes,
I can open both of my windows and I still
have no natural light. Like I can't be in a
room without a light on, which I likeeing you guys
now like things that are dark. But it's so aw
because I woke up yesterday. I took an app yesterday

before after the gym, before going to a firm, I
was like, Oh, that's so weird. It's like orange outside whatever.
And I walk outside and I was like, why is
it so foggy? It looks like sepia is what it
looked like. Yeah, And part of me was like, what
fire is so strong that like the entire street is
covered in smoke. So I texted the roomy sounds like, oh,

it's weird. It's a smoky outside, and like we kept
I was driving like all the way downtown, and the
longer we drove it wasn't getting better. And I was like,
this is really weird and smooky. So I looked at
it like I just looked up New York City fire
and it was like before anything came out, so it
was just like, it's a fire in the Bronx. I
was like, is the entire Bronx on the fire? Because
why am I forty streets down and it's still smoky?

And then finally like you're talking about Canada or whatever.
But the funny thing is I was in like the
eightieth floor of a building, so like I was above
all the skyscrapers and you couldn't see anything below and
it was really scary, and I was like, I was
meeting my cupcake in peace and walk away from the window.
It's freaking me out. But yeah, it sounds a very
barbecue and I'm not a fan. My nose is we
earlier and now I was like, this is very apocalyptic. Ye,

I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Also, you read that thing right where it said if
you spend an equivalent of twenty four hours outside, that's
the equivalent of smoking sick cigarettes.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
And I'm so dead because sar Andy posts and they're
like this is a normal day for me.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I was like, what, wait, who said that?

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Some posts on their story when it was like the
screenshot of that news report, and I was like, okay,
but it's so funny to me, is because like I
don't know how to explain this in a nice way,
but like if you have a window anywhere near you,
or nostrils at all, or you can step outside, it's
very very evident that it is orange to everyone. It

is smoky to everyone, and everyone's aware that it is
orange and smoky. My entire Instagram feed right now is like, guys,
it's really scary. Guys, it's orange. Guys. My asthma. Guys,
it's orange and my asthma.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Or they're like, it's just the caption New York City
right now.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Like spooky, it's orange outside. I'm actually about to do
the Instagram because I've seen I think seventy eight stories
and like maybe we're all in New York and we
can all see and smell it as well. Thank you
for letting me know. Okay, some of the picture are
kind of cool because they're like people like up in
the air and whatever. But I'm like, we get it.
Let's your picture is like interesting or bringing into the conversation.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Please stop unless you have a drone. We don't want
to hear from you. And that is the consensus here.
It's really nuts though, because a couple of years ago,
Sidney and I lived in the East Village. I think
we lived on Second Avenue in sixth Street, and the
church across the street from us had a really really
serious fire.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Luckily no one got hurt or anything.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Oh and also a little sidebar, we hope everyone in
Canada is okay, and we send out like our prayers
and everything and our thoughts, thoughts for me, prayers for Sydney,
and we hope everyone's sorry.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
I don't pray, but we hope everyone's okay. I just
want to decidebar.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
And going back to what I was saying, is that
a couple of years ago, our church across the street,
not our church, a church across the street lit on
fire and Sydney and I saw it and it was
just it created this huge dark cloud. Not similar to
this because it didn't change the color of everything the
g I know, everything's orangey red, but before it was
just really dark gray, And I kind of thought it

was a similar situation because while the color is changed,
it is obviously there's a lot of smog and haze.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
It's it's true for that as well.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
So when I stepped outside yesterday before I really knew
what was going on.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Even I'm thinking there's also a fun because it's very similar.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
But then, you know, I kept going down the street
down like Broadway, and I was like, oh, nope, it's
literally all of Manhattan.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
It was very spooky and like, I love Canada, Like
if Narnia was a real place, I would consider Canada
to be on my list of possibilities.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Was that shot in Canada? What Narnia?

Speaker 3 (05:37):
I don't know. I've never seen it, but it's like
a Disneyland without the rides or like the characters. I
don't know. I feel like Canada's so peaceful, like no
one's ever like really messing with Canada, you know.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah. Also I think everyone there is really nice. That's Canada.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
I know some Canadians here, but you know, maybe this's
like their overall gravitas. I think all their food kind
of sucks, but they really good. See Justin Trudeau is
really cute. He's problematic, but you know he's still fine. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Wasn't he the NYU graduation speaker a couple of years ago?

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, Unfortunately I was not in that one. I had
Taylor Swift and you guys know how I feel about her.
But you know, I'm rewatching Scandal and like, I feel
like Justin Trudeau could have been my fits. I knowda
Shonda Rhymes, what a woman. She's messing with my head
right now because I just watched Queen Charlotte, of course,

and now we're watching Scandal, and then I'm gonna rewatch
Hagay with Murder, so I just to really get into
my Shonda feels. And I was like, I don't know,
what did.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
You think about Queen Charlotte the TV show?

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Because it is actually really funny. I loved it. It
was actually perfect. I am kind of annoyed. Was only
six episodes and then by six seventy three because three
of them were just the same episodes from different point
of view. Really yeah, which is a little bit annoying,
but I'm gonna forgive her for that one. It was
castid perfectly. It made me want to sob every three minutes.
And it's so funny because okay, it's not really funny

at all, but it kind of is. Is that every
girl's like, I want a farmer George. I want a
farmer George. But I don't think two things. One, they
don't understand that farmer George. King George is the one
that we got independence from in seventeen seventy six into
he was mad as the Mad King is what they

called him. I'm pretty sure he had some kind of things,
and girls are like, I just want him, you know,
like I want a man that cheats me like him.
And I'm like, maybe it's fake. It's not real. They're
in like sixteen hundred and it's not real cute and romantic,
but it also is a fake show, So I think
just keep that in mine. Yeah, but I think it
was very cute and like Seanna knows, kind of like really,

grip and rip my heart.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
And rip the old grip and rip.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
I feel like that. Ex Yeah, I don't like that.
I don't like that very much, but you know.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
And so I would watch Queen Charlotte, but I didn't
watch Bridgerton.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
So I feel like, oh, they have no relationship really well,
like it's like the backstory to a single character, three
characters in Bridgerton. You can watch it completely separate.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
And I'm still understand what you watched Bridgerton.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
No, isn't that crazy woman? And why would you not
watch it?

Speaker 1 (08:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
It's not really your kind of it's weird because you
like fantasy stuff. But I don't know if you'd like Bridgerton.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
I don't like period shows. That's one thing I will say, So.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Oh my god, are you are you crazy? My favorite
one show that you love?

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Downton Abbey.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
No Outlander. I do love Dalton Babby two.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yes, both of those. I can't. I mean, I love Outlander,
but I couldn't get into Downton Abbey.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Seeing down Abbey is the nineteen hundred version of Succession.
Nothing exciting happens, nothing crazy happens, nothing earth chattering happens.
It's literally just people living their lives. So that's like, I, okay,
I've watched Succession, but I will actually and truly never
understand people's obsession with it like I watched the.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Whole thing too, Like do you watch the final season?

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah? And I was there for the ride and I
thought it was so boring.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
I didn't watch the fun season like to hap with
through season two, so I stop watching.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
It's it's a corporate fight for six seasons. Like, actually,
nothing else happens like six seasons, I think. I don't
really know, but nothing like super Excited, like downt Nabby.
It's like set during Titanic time. Well it starts with
the Titanic happening. It's the same thing, but it's kind
of cuter because it's like a nineteen hundred you know.
But I love period dramas, Like I could watch period
dramas just like just that for the rest of my

life and be the content.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
To me, the Titanic happened in nineteen sixty. That's just
to me.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
And maybe what I don't know. Do you think creuse
chips are invinted? It's like nineteen oh one, I think,
or like eighteen ninety something. It's kind of crazy though.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
We don't like boats, Yeah, oh I hate boats?

Speaker 3 (09:42):
You hate boats? Who hate planes? How are you gonna get? Oh?

Speaker 1 (09:44):
I'm okay with planes now. I can go on a plane,
I can't.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Go on a boat. Okay, before two months ago, Sarah
was fraid of boats, planes and trains. So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
But then think about the role that you played and
helped me conquering my fear.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
It was me young. I heard to get her ass
on the train right now because we're leaving.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
But we have to tell that story.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
When we were on the train from Paris, Denise and
I started crying for actually no reason, because I was
so sad.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I had to exert physical labor. Please tell that story.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
No, it's actually a little bit crazy because it's actually
probably the best trip I've ever taken in my life.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
It was so fun.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
And what's so crazy about is that we planned nothing,
we did nothing, and it was still somehow like the
best trip. Like everything that could have gone wrong short
from us getting kidnapped did go wrong, but it was
still like the best trip ever.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Like, yeah, oh my god, it was so fun.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
From literally leaving New York to arriving back in New York.
It was the worst movie you've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
It was a train wreck, but it was a really
fun It was.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Really fun, Like I want to go back, and like
when I go back, I wouldn't do anything different, Like,
I still wouldn't plan. I would just know where to go.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
And also we came out of it with a lot
of really fun stories.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
I forget them until like I tell them again.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yes, but there's this one story in particular, that's what
he's about to tell that I think is so funny.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
So I love Sarah to death. Me and Sarah are
so different and so many different aspects. So Sarah is
the only child. I am one of four, and I'm
like the baby middle, so like the extra like do
it yourself child, you know.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
So I'm also a hardcore princess lee.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah, Sarah, Sarah, Sarah's a LEO princess. No, she is
a Leo princess only daughter of military dad. That's like
every princess trope you could have in a single person,
and I know I love her for it. However, we
are getting on the train from Nice to Paris.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I thought it was from Paris to Niece when this happened.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Now was it?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
It was probably both, to be.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Honest, Yeah, it was probably both. So Sarah had this
weird thing. It actually happened on multiple trips, multiple times.
We're like we will get to the train station a
hour early and almost miss our train and we're just
sitting there, like from Paris. So this happened once on
away from New York to the Hampton's and Lin's explained
to you that we got there an hour early, at
like six o'clock in the morning, We're standing directly in

front of the train and just goes right, So we
had to wait like another hour to get another train. True,
and yeah, that was sad. So then it happened again.
We're almost happened where we somehow decided to go to
I think it was me actually to go to the
bathroom forty six seconds before the train departed, and like,
mind you, we're in France. We don't speak or massimindments Sara.

We don't speak actually any friendship. All Sarah claims she does,
but that's still up in the air.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
All the friends I can speak is oh, and that's.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, it's it's it's yeah. It's questionable. So we're so
we don't realize it. There's not really like there isn't
a sign seating, like no one really like follows it.
And when they open them doors, you got one second
to get your butt on that train before it leaves you.
So we don't know that. So we have obviously to
ginormous suitcases because we're staying there for literally fifty five years.

And so Sarah, mind you. Of course, our train cart's
like the last one out of like sixty train carts.
So we're darting down trying to make it there. I
assume Sarah got it because I'm running. I assume she's
behind me. I turn around. Girls walking, I'm like, hey,
let's come on, put our pep in our stuff. Finally, no,
this was on the way back. Oh yes, but still

we had to go up I'm not kidding two stairs,
Like it was from the platform to the train and
then the train to like our level, and you like
stick your bag and like a little cubby like all
the Cubbies. They're kind of very trusting there because you
could just snatch someone's bag and left.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
No one know, people do that all the time because.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Like there's so many different stops you can get off on,
like no one's like it's not like a plane where
like your bag's on top of you. It's like all
of it's in the front of your car. Yea. So
we had to put our bags there. Luckily ours literally
weighed the size of a body, so the anie would
try and take them.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
If they tried, they'd give up in two seconds.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Or literally, So I this is not the way. So
this is what happened on the way there. On the
way back, our predicament was that we had a flight
leaving out of Charles de Gaulle Airport in Paris, and
we weren't nice which is the other side of the country.
And after Lily crying on the phone to the train
station because there were actually no I don't know why
we would't buy her ticket before we got there. There

was literally one train going from these to Pairs that
day and it would have gotten there like exactly three
hours before a flight, So like it was perfect if
we could make it. So we after literally begging and
crying and paying eight hundred million dollars for a train
ticket that should have been five euros.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
It's true, we actually paid so much money.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
It's money. It could have been five years if we
I don't know plans before we left, we know know
what to do now kind of, So saying happens with
the run to our train, get our bags on there,
and I'm in our seat, and mind you, Sarah was
directly behind me. We were running to the train, so
I was kind of like, where is she? She you
this girl, I'm sitting in our chairs like chilling. Sarah

comes and she's literally sobbing, sobbing, out of breath, sweating
like and I like, mind you there she was red
as a tomato. There were two stairs. She had a
single bag, so I was like, are you okay? And
you were like, don't talk to me right now. I
was like, oh, okay, I hope she's okay. Finally she

stopped crying because, mind you, it was double whammy because
we were also moving backwards on the train.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Oh yes, and I get really bad motion sickness.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yes, so I still don't understand how you scared of trains, subways, boats.
But we're sitting there, she's like already stick from moving backwards,
and I was like what happened? And you were like
I had to lift my bag onto the thing and
I hit my head. I was like, Sarah, Sarah, what
you literally I'm not't even kidding you. I rolled my
bag into the thing like I didn't lift anything. I

went up exactly two stairs and she's literally don't speak
to me right now. I was like, okay, and on
this same ride, mind you again, we don't speak any French.
There are no screens and no one so hard, and
there's no one in our train cart really there's like
four people and none of them speak English either. So
our plan, which at the moment actually felt really smart.

My planning was like, Okay, we know the ride is
like six or seven hours from Meets to Paris. We
know our stop is Charles to call the airport. So
when everyone on this train who has luggage gets off,
that's obviously the airport, which I think is really a
really smart plan, because as we were getting closer to Paris,
like there are more and more people getting on the

train with like big luggage because that's like the biggest
airport in France. Obviously.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, and we were freaking out originally because we don't
speak French and the announcements were all in French.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
There were no there were no screens, they were talking
a million miles per minute. We could't even take out
the Google app, like Google couldn't keep up.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
No, Google can't keep up.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
And then so when you suggested let's get off when
everybody else gets off with their luggage.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
I thought it was the most brilliant idea.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, yeah, Obviously where else would everyone be going, because like,
by the time we were like two hours from Paris,
the train was like packed, like and there were so
much luggage. People were like having whold their luggage in
between their seats because there was no more space on
like the whatever. So obviously everyone luggage gets off airport
A plus B equill see, so everyone starts running. So

first mistake is that everyone gets off the train. At
one point we were like, only like an hour, there's
no way this is Paris. And then finally this lady
like talks to Sarah, and she was because we had
seats in different carts I think the first half of.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
The rid yes, the first half of the ride, yes.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Their textings like this lady says that this this train
is broken, we have to run to this other train,
and I was like, oh, child, So finally we get
to which.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
We would never would have never would have known if
the woman didn't, you know, use.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Her deductive reasoning to realize I'm English and I didn't understand,
which we didn't talk.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
The whole time.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Everyone got off the train and we were just sitting
there like and then the first stop. That was the
first stop. And then we finally transferred trains and we're
like pretty close to Paris. We think like it's been
six and a half hours whatever. Everyone grabs their bags
and gets off. We were like, hey, we made it early.
Like this is crazy. We step out of this train
station and I see freaking Mickey Mouse and I literally

almost lose my shit because I was like, there's no
way we are in dizzy Land Paris right now. I can't.
I looked at Sarah, mind you there was We were
one train ride. We were one train stop away from
the airport. It was a six minute train ride. We
open uber it's like a two because this is a
high speed train. It's like a two hour drive from

where we are.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Not to mention, it was like two hundred and forty dollars.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Sarah's giggling and smiling because Sarah loves Disney, you guys now,
and she's like, oh, we got.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
We're in that's out right in the parks. Let's just
say the other day And Sydney was like I will
actually murder no.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
I was like, you know, I hate Disney. I was like,
give you out of here actually right now. So we uber.
We barely make it to the airport. We finally get there.
Sarah has like sixteen cans of dry shampoo and her
carry on, so we get stopped and it was a
whole thing.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
But then I flirted with the guy and then no,
she's giggling Kiki king.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
I'm like, gir, we're gonna miss our flight. So yeah,
it was quite an adventure. And the if what you
learned anything from that one buyer train ticket to learn
how to lift a bag. Three learn French if you
go to France, And that's all I.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Have to say, basic French words, basic French book woo,
met you're welcome this entire trip. Yeah, because you know
how people say mercy. Bookou is in like, thank you
very much sending her Bookoo come after mercy, and she.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Thought a lot of deductive reasoning apparently is not very strong.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
I've never laughed so hard as when we got out
of the uber from the airport to Paris to you.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Know, like originally get there, and we got on the uber.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
We got out to go to our airbnb and the
driver goes Melsi, Sandy goes Bookoo and I've never laughed
in round.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Of my life. That's what kept saying Danada.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
We kept speaking in span and she was speaking in French.
It was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
But Sinny and I have never felt so good about
ourselves as we did when we said stuff like oh,
MELSI or like dai whatever in our French little accent,
and people thought we were French, so they kept talking
to us in French.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
And we had to be like, oh, like we had
to explain.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
And it was so awkward because like Sarah and I are, like,
we live in New York. When you go out and
me work, like you got every piece of skin chilling,
all black looking like you know, so we would like
leave to go out, but like I guess what summer,
So the sun when it's set into like nine thirty,
so we'd be out with like crop tops atie bitty
bikini tops the stairs. We would I was like, We're

gonna get stoned in these streets. I'm scared.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
No, I didn't know how really not conservative.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
I'm not talking about conservative as a political party, obviously,
I'm talking about just conservative in the way they dress
and I guess like everyday culture. I didn't realize how
conservative's Parisians are.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Right, I think actually it's really really crazy to me
because like in history and culture, like people always like
a equate the French with like sex and opulence and
dirty and nasty, because I guess they like historically are.

But then you go there and everyone's so conservative, like
everyone dresses very classy, everyone's very like, if you're not French,
we don't like you. Yeah, so that was interesting. I
also think it's like what part of parishuran, because like
there's obviously the very like anti immigrant idea in France

in Europe in general. Really, but I had meat right now.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
One thing that I noticed, and I hope I'm not
offending everybody anybody, but this shouldn't really be that people
don't have big tits in France.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
I know, me and Sarah we've got the load. We
got heavy load.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Because you know how when you have bigger boobs for
our you know, larger breasted audience. When you have bigger boobs,
you could wear kind of like a regular tank top
and it can look more provocative. Even though you could
be wearing the same top as someone with like a cups,
it can look more provocative because you do have bigger
boobs in there.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Free you might have some cleavage, et cetera. That was
like Sidney and I.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Would walk out in a top and people would stare
and give us weird looks. Yes, because we're obviously American,
but also they would be very their eye contacts.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, the biddies were.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
I mean it worked.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
And when we went to restaurants, yeah, oh, the Frenchmen
they loved us.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
The Frenchman loved.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Us in that.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
He yeah, have a deathly fear of bees.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
So whenever we'd be sitting at a cafe in the summer,
I mean, if you frequent Paris in the summer, you
know how bad the bees get.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
But Parisians don't give a fuck about bees.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
They're like, they'd like hold them in their hand. I'm sorry,
what are you snow white? Absolutely not. No.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
This one guy, this one French guy who we met
at this like one cafe, day three, Sidney and I
were screaming, freaking out about the bees and he let
it land, he let it perch on his forefinger.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
He was like, oh, it's your friend. We were like,
what you.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Do not have a friend to me? Get that thing
away from me. You guys know, I've broken my foot
running from bees, Like I don't mess the bees. That's
the one thing I just I don't do. We're not friends, no,
Today we're talking about things that we are one too
old for or two dare I say too?

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yes, things that were too old for and things that
were too young for.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
One thing I was thinking about is I people keep
making those tiktoks where it's like once you graduate college
you to like throw out all your like going out clothes,
like going out tops whatever. I go through phases where
like I don't know why. As a child, I loved
dressing old, not old as I'm like old, like it's

a college student, but like I lively would wear like
Sperris and like Pulitzer or like I love like dressing
like I wouldn't even say sheet because I was like eight,
but like I loved me a low free pants And
I'm at the stage now we're like and it's not
even I hate this is actually like really bothering me.
People like it's Sophia Richie style. No it's not.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
No, it's not she wear pants for her wedding.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Like it's okay, guys, like people do that too. But
I've always liked blazers. I've always liked like pants and
like classy tops just because I think it's fun and like,
obviously I want to go into like a professional half dress.
This is form most of the time. But at the
same time, I do love like wearing stuff to go
out and like being fun. So like, I hate that
there's like some kind of art sharing number in your

twenties where you have to stop dressing like you're in
your twenties. It's I just like you're what in your
forties or like, and that even that jesses have an age,
Like I don't just grow what you want to wear.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Also what you're most comfortable in, because I know for me,
as someone who works from home, my priority is comfort
throughout the day, me in leather pants in a boottop
right now.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Another thing that I feel like.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Is kind of a societal thing is you're too old
for too many friends, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (24:30):
I think there's kind of a lot of nuances to
go with that.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
I think, yes, you might be too old to have
like a forty person friend group, but you're not too
old for friends.

Speaker 1 (24:39):

Speaker 2 (24:40):
This is a thing that I see a lot in
married couples to be honest, is like they start to
create their own family, so they forget about like their
parents and their friends and the people who have roots
with them.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
If that makes sense. Do you see that a lot?

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Because I feel like I see it on reality TV
in real life, and I'm kind of like, well.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
What happens if God forbid you get divorced? What happened?
What happens if you have a big traumatic life event.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
You need your friends, but they're not there anymore because
you spent all your weekends at home watching movies with
your husband likes. It's that kind of dichotomy that bothers
me a little bit, And I get prioritizing family, But
when you completely neglect your friends in the process, I
don't think that's being mature.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
I think that's being a bad friend.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
I think that goes for not even just marriage, but
like relationships in general. Yes, Like there's definitely I can
only speak for myself, like a point in my life
with my like long term relationship where I would neglect
hanging out with my friends, hang out with him, And
I'm now im thinking aboud, like for what they didn't
want to hang out with me? Why would I do that?
And I think that especially as women. When I even

I think not necessarily, it's taught or like encouraged putting
in first. And it's like for literally every single man
that you are with, probably besides maybe one person, that
you're not going to end up with them. So why
are you sacrificing your education, your career, your hobbies, your friends,
your family, yourself, your mental health for someone humans likely

will not end up with, you, know, So I think
that like being able to balance different areas of your
life does come with age. I think that when you're young,
it's easy to like kind of put that in the
back of your mind because like all you do is
go to school and hang out with your friends. Like
that's literally you have no other responsibilities. I think once
you kind of graduate college or you're like in a
space where you are on your own, you're hands balance,
like all these things in your life. Learning how to

prioritize one, two, balance, and three reconfigure when like things
happen in your life is so important. I think I'm
at age now where I am too young to start
neglecting certain things in my life for others without being
able to like have a clear priority list, you.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Know, exactly.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
And if you think about it, to your point, sixty
percent of marriages roughly end up in divorce. Think about
how much that number increases when you're just dating somebody.

Speaker 3 (26:48):

Speaker 2 (26:48):
So it's like, if you put all of your effort
and time into who you're dating, or all of your effort,
it's not healthy to do that for anything, relationships or otherwise.
If you put all of your energy into school, all
of your energy to work, all of your energy and
your family, you're neglecting other parts of your life that
are equally as important. Oh, same with work. It's it's
very Yeah, I would say balance is definitely you still prioritize.

I mean, like if you have and it's also kind
of a give and take situation. If you have a newborn,
that has to be priority. Obviously you probably aren't going
to hang out with your friends and go parting for
the next couple of weeks, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (27:19):
But I think that as.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Your life progresses, you do have to definitely be prioritize,
but also know how to knock cut people out and also.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Recognize when you're doing it.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
One thing that I also speaking of my boyfriend, one
thing that I had a conversation about with him recently.
Was the difference between was the difference between argumenting, Oh
my god.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Arguing you know I'm gonna let you take that.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
That is so funny, the difference between arguing and fighting.
I think when you get older, you grow out of fighting.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
You grow out of like losing control of your temper.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
And sometimes yeah, you can't help but lose control of
your temper because you know you're human, you get to angry,
et cetera. But with like loved ones, friends, family, I
think that it's important to approach a situation we talk
about this all the time on the podcast, to resolve,
not to win, because.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
That is one of the core I think branches of.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Fighting, Like that's what makes a fight a fight, is
you're fighting to win, but you're arguing or having a
discussion or disagreement to resolve. I think those are two
very different things, and as you grow older, you start
to recognize which one's toxic and which one's not, and
which one to engage in more. When you have a
problem with somebody.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
And I on your point of arguing versus fighting, I
can't put into words, I can't explicate or explain enough
that when couples are like, we never argue. That is
not one something to brag about or be to be
something to be jealous of, because argument is natural, disagreement

is natural. If you are with someone in a relationship
and you do not disagree on a single thing, I'm
sorry one of you is lying.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Or two I was just about to say that, and
sorry if that's pessimistic, but it's true.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
It's a reality lying yeah, or two. If you guys
are like, oh, we just never argue about anything, I don't.
Don't think that's natural. Like I think part of growing
and a relationship, part of growing into yourself but also
growing with someone, is that realizing that debate can be
healthy and creating healthy debates only going to help you
grow as a person and as a couple, because in reality,

if you're dating someone or you're marrying them and you're
together for fifty years, you were going to argue about something,
you know, like it's going to come up naturally. And
if you spend the entirety of your early days, early
years of your relationship not arguing about single thing, you
don't ever have disagreement until you're twenty years in. You
don't know how to handle conflict with your partner or
how your partner situates themselves in conflict, it's going to

end up worse, you know.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
And I think argument and debate is also really important
for boundary setting too, and for oh, it's also really
good for setting boundaries. To debate and arguing over fighting.
I think it's really important if you have something you
want to convey about something or about feeling a certain
way that your partner is making you feel, and having
confrontation or a debate is never fun, but it can

be very integral to a healthy growing relationship to your point.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Also, sorry, as I say, I agree, especially because for example,
like I think that debate is healthy or even arguments
or difference in opinion, and not even just in relationships
with your friends as well, because how else are you
going to challenge or grow in your own beliefs, understandings,
realizations unless someone challenges them. So I think like as

a couple, if you guys believe I mean, obviously I
prefer to be with someone has like very similar outlooks
on the world that I do, outlooks on politics, outlooks
on values, beliefs, whatever. But like my beliefs when I
was ten versus my beliefs at twenty three are very
very different, you know, and I think that wouldn't have
happened unless I met people who did challenge them. But

also I think that conflict and are argumentation, argue whatever
you see.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Argumentation is what I say.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
I think that is a word.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Really, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Arguing is also a way to see how someone respects you,
if they respect you, and I think a lot of
that does come out during fights or during arguments too,
because I've been in situations where like, there is someone
who I am like intellectually compatible with, like we love
talking and debating about different intellectual things, but someon's gonna

call me stupid, talk down on me, talk over me.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Oh them best believe is going to be a fight?

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yes, make me feel like I'm inept or I'm lesser
than And I might not see that in normal day
to day conversation, but it's in those moments of arguing,
of debating, of fighting is when that really comes out.
I know that, deep down, on that cellular level, that
person does not respect me, and I wouldn't have known
that unless I had those moments to see that, you know,
So I do think it is important exactly.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Once the mask comes off, you get to see who
that person really is. I remember I had an argument,
I will say, and we were talking about just like
something that she did to me. So she had this
habit of constantly interrupting me, and one time she did
it to a very very rude extent at the point
where I thought she was doing it on purpose. So
I didn't, you know, say anything. I just kind of

started acting cold, not on purpose, just because I was
like angry, that's what people do. And then she approached
me and she was like, are you mad at me?
I said, no, I'm not mad, but there is something
I guess that I wanted to talk to you about
that I didn't necessarily realize was coming off so.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Cold, and it's blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
And I just said it very state of the you know,
said it matter of factly. And she came back at
me with something really really rude, and it was a
very low blow, and she was like, well, you take
forever to finish your sentences anyway, so maybe if you'd
whatever something rude, and I said, I'm just expressing a
problem that I have with you. It does not have
to be a fight, like, I don't hate you. We

don't have to ghost each other, we don't have to
give each other that's silent treatment. We don't have to
act like kindergarteners. We can literally just have an adult conversation.
So just because I have a problem with you doesn't
necessarily mean that you have to have a problem with me,
because that's what a lot of people, you know, more
than a lot of people, I feel like, that's a lot.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Of people's go to when they're getting defensive.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
They look for things that they can blame you for,
and that, Yeah, that's a very another one.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
That's another like toxic quality of a fight I feel like.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
And then I told her, I was like, you know,
there's no need for the rudeness because you're like, I'm
not bringing this up to you to make you feel bad,
lesser than unworthy, whatever. I'm just telling you this so
that we can grow from it and that you don't
do it again because it hurts my feelings, you know.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
I feel like that's one thing that I am too
old for. It's like, if you cannot hold the mirror
to yourself and realize that, okay, it comes out like
this when people do something that intentionally hurts you or
does something disrespectful, usually mint, sometimes friends as well, and
then they're like, well, I'm sorry if that hurt you, or.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
I hate when people don't know how to apologize.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Or even worse, they're like, I can't control how you feel.
Do you have the compassion empathy of a rock? Are
you a pebble? Because it doesn't matter what the intention
of your words are or the intention of your actions.
Intention and impacts are very different things, you know, And
it's like, you might not have control over my feelings,

but you have control over the way that you treat me,
the way that you disrespect me, et cetera. And that
has happened so many times, not only with like friends
that I no longer like I am close with, or
even just X's but I think that for so long
I'll be like, oh, you're right, Like, I can only
control how I react to things. And while that is true,
I can also control if I'm friends with you anymore,
if you're still in my life, because if you're that

willing to disrespect me and then blame me for being
upset about it, not only friends with you, I don't
mean in your life and vice versa.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Also, I hate that because it's kind of neglecting the
fact where you can also control whether or not you
bring something up with the person. I mean, you can't
expect your friends to be mind readers.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
But when your friends come to you and they say, hey,
you've been doing something.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
That's really bothering me, and you get a very negative, rude,
disrespectful response, you're only bringing it up because you know,
if you I have good intentions, you want to grow,
and you still want to be friends with them. So
it's like, if I didn't want to be friends with
you anymore, I wouldn't have brought this up.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
I would have just iced you out.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
But I do want to be friends, and that's why
I'm bringing it up so we can grow. And I
feel like if the other person is not mature enough
to realize that, that also is a very big issue.
And to your first point, when people do not know
how to apologize, I'm gonna give everybody.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
A lesson right now. Let's apologizing. One oh one.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
This isn't I'm sorry, one oh one. If you didn't
already know, which I'm sure that you do. Apologizing goes
a little something like this, I'm sorry period, not for
how you feel, not for oh you're you know, sorry
for your response.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Sorry you took it like that.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
You're not sorry for how the other person feels, because
then you're not actually sorry. You're sorry for me doing
blank blank blank blank. So you have to say you're sorry.
I have to say what you're sorry for. You can't
be sorry that someone took something you said the wrong way.
That's not that's not what apologizing is. If you're apologizing
for something that you did, you have to say that
you're sorry for the thing that you did that hurt them.
You know what I mean, Because even though if they

did that same thing and it maybe it wouldn't have
hurt you, maybe you would, you're not the same person.
That's what makes human life so beautiful. And that's what
makes friendship so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
And if you were not mature.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
My like I love my mom, this woman does not
know how to apologize. I will always bring stuff up
to her. This woman is what she's like fifty one
and I love I love you, mom.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
I know you're listening.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
I love you.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
You're the best. But people need to work on they're apologizing.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
It irritates me so much when grown adults especially do
not know how to say I'm sorry or take accountability
or responsibility whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
The worst for me, there's two things worse in that
the only thing it's usually only happens in relationships. But
the only two things worse for me then I'm sorry
that you feel that way is one. When they start
getting sarcastic. I'm sorry that I'm the worst and that
I can't do anything right.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Well, I'm the worst mom ever, I'm sorry that you
have such an awful mother.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
I'm like, are you to your my little brother apologies
like that, and he's literally four years old. Actually he's
better than that at this point. He was like free
when he would do that. But the only thing works
than that in my head is when they don't say
anything at all. Like, for example, I just started dating
again and I was seeing the sky and we went
on like three dates and seventy two hours, which is like,
you know, a lot for me, I don't see someone

that much. But I liked him. We had a good
time hanging out, but we never went on like a
proper date. And then right after our three dates, I
went to California to see my family for a week
and a half Memorial Day. Then I came back and
we facetimed like every day while I was away. Loved
getting to know him, excited, and I said on our
last day of facetiming, I was like, for me, like

a non negotiables like I do want to go on dates.
I want to get to know you in a setting,
and that's not like super casual or relax. But my
issue was is that he was like, oh, I'll plan
a date like blah blah blah. And I was excited
because it wasn't even like I needed to be taken
out on a date. It's just that I don't want
to get into a groove where a guy is with
me and is comfortable or things. It's normal for us

to just hang out in my bedroom every time he
sees me or text me at ten pm. Not that
kind of girl. Not have never been and yeah I have.
I'm not going to be like if you plan on
being with me any since long term, even if it
is casual, well, I still wouldn't be able to hang
out without being texted at ten pm? Are you up? Like?

Speaker 2 (38:08):
That's just not what I'm doing exactly. I mean very
clear on that your girlfriend material. You're not a booty call.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Yeah, even like if we're not boyfriend girlfriend, like at
the least we can meet for a drink, meet for
lunch something. I'm not that kind of girl. I've That's
one of my very very clear boundaries that I'm not
going to cross or change for any man. I don't
care what they look like, what they do, whatever, and so.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
And even if you're not a girlfriend, your girlfriend material,
that's everybody better learn.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
The fabric is there. So the fact that he didn't
make effort to plan anything and then like I planned
something two things actually, and he canceled on both and
was like, just come over after no, And I said
that and haven't talked to him since, And like younger
me would have been like, oh, like it's fine, Like
we'll figure it out that No, I even not only

twenty two or twenty three whatever. I think that's one
thing that I'm really working on is being very very
clear in my boundaries what I expect and my expectations
sticking to them. If you don't meet that, then buy
I will find someone who is. I'm not worried about that.
There are eight billion people on this earth. I will
find one.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
I think that one thing Sidney and I have had
to learn. And we went to dinner last night we
were talking about this. We went to Thursday Kitchen, if
anyone was curious. We were chatting about how obviously it's
like a scientifically proven fact that women are more mature
than men, just like in general on average, and we

were saying that going beyond that, due to how we
grew up and where we had to go to college.
I mean, like, I know, for us, moving from a
suburban town to jumping headfirst into the adult life in
the city forces you to grow up really.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Quickly, and that happened to Sydney.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
And I just think that we are our maturity goes
beyond what is scientific. I think we are very mature
for our age. And I think it's okay to know
what we want. You know, So, even though we are
young on paper, both only twenty two right now, it's
okay to be like, I don't want to see you
at three am and.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
That's it, you know. I feel like for us that feels.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Very immature, and I think we deserve respect for knowing
what we want, and also respect because we're women and
should be treated as such.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
And That's one thing that Sarah and I are talking
about too, is that I tend to gay older. And
that's for many reasons. One because I don't know if
it's because I don't know if it's because I'm from Florida.
But like this, the menda I grew up with had
like the emotional and mental capacity of a kidney bean,
a kidney bean kidney bean, And like I'm at a

place I've always make truly mature and extremely independent. So
like when it comes to what I expect in a relationship,
it is to be immature. It is to understand like
your emotions, it's to not act like a child. So
I've just found that scientifically, mindimature slower than women because
biological evolutionary whatever. And I just found that this generation

out of if it's the video games or or these
vape sticks or some thing, that discrepancy is becoming a
lot larger of vapesticks. So these kids are vaping at
like twelve, That's why. And so I've always stayed older,
Like my long term X was five years older than me.
So I tend to date men who are I don't like,

not like sugar daddy age, but like I'm in my
early twenties, mid twenties. I date guys, know, mid twenties,
their late twenties, and it's so crazy to me because
I've always assumed that they're going to be more mature,
because I was like, oh, they're older, like obviously, no, nope, nope, nope.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
So imagine dating a guy your own age with the paycheck.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
That's literally it.

Speaker 1 (41:36):

Speaker 3 (41:36):
So yeah, it's just a lot of trial and error
at this point. I mean not really. I told you,
guys know, I had like my whole like celibacy focus
on me era for like six months, I've done on
dates with two people, and even then I'm kind of like,
I mean, they're great dates, Both guys are great. It's
just a matter of like being steadfast and what I
want and not wavering from that for any man.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Also, going back to being mature, it's just funny because
and I'm gonna sound like a grandma saying this, Grandma,
what I've seen recently is that a lot of kids,
i would say, from ages ten to maybe thirteen.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Are growing up really quickly.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
And I was absolutely maybe other people in my age
age were like that younger, and maybe I just didn't
grow up in that environment, so tell me if I'm wrong.
But when I was twelve, oh my, I was twelve,
I was eating goldfish, watching Disney movies, literally having braces
and moon rim glasses, like I looked like Dumbledore, but
just younger. I don't understand. And now these I think

TikTok has a lot to do with it, because I see,
you know, I'm just getting a lot of exposure on
that app. I see all these twelve year old girls
in like booty shorts, and it's so jarring, like and
I respect it, I know, And that makes me sound
so old saying that, but it's true.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
It's very frightnant.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
And when I was twelve, I was wearing the Justice
just a sweater shirt connector. I thought I was the
baddest being on the block with my sperries. My thing, though,
isn't so that like like girls are growing up too fast.
It's just like when I, or at least I think
we were the last generation. We're like we were allowed
to be kids, Like, yeah, I was allowed to wear
like shorts that go plast my knees that were plaid

with a sweater shirt, and I thought I was the
baddest beyond the block. Yeah, so I was allowed to
like be that weird kid with the you know brow
and like we used to we were so weird, so weird,
and we had like the cool like you see movies
and like, I don't know, we were the last generation before,
Like we didn't get phones until what like seventh grade,
eighth grade, like when the first iPhone came out, So
we were like we still had technology as kids, but

like we didn't grow up with an iPad from our face,
Like we still got to go outside and run and
things like that. And I feel like if I was
a kid now, the pressure to look like I don't know,
Alex Earl all these TikTok girls when I'm thirteen years old.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah, TikTok has a lot to do with it.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah, but I didn't even get it because their whole
reason I brought that up is because you started talking
about like little boys with their vape sticks and video.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Games, and it's true for little boys too. Boys in
that age range playing like.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Call of Duty and like what's it GDA, and they're
starting to vape and drink especially.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
I feel like young boys, yeah, are.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Starting to mature really quickly that way, too, so it's
weird the dichotomy.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
It freaks me out a little bit, Like do you
know how many kids in my high school we're drinking
four logos in middle school? That is liquid gasoline? Like
it was really banned in America, I'm pretty sure are
like certain states for a very long time. And that's
like kind of going back to the topic. It's like
when I was in high school, I was very much
like I don't want to drink or do anything like
that because I was a goody two shoes. But it's
so weird because going to school in New York, I

feel like they just throw everything at us so quickly,
and like it becomes a lifestyle, especially like at NYU,
to the point where like I'm twenty two, twenty three now,
and I feel like I'm too old to like be
going out every night. I'm too old to be like
drinking like I don't know, like more than two drinks
a day just because I feel like I pick up
for work or school in the morning and I'm I
get tired, I want to nap, you know, And it's

like crazy because I'm I was twenty one last year,
Like why is this? Why do I feel like I
progress to where I'm too old to be doing stuff
like that, So I don't know. So I actually like
remind myself that I still am young, Like I don't
know if it's just because of where we are in
our life. I feel like I'm old if I know
that I'm not, And like I think that old is relative.
Old is like a mindset. Like my mom's in her fifties.

She's the baddestee on the block. Like she's young doing
her thing. Love that for her. Two of my stepmom,
It's like I don't think that like, oh, once I
hit forty, im old. I want to hit thirty, I
am old. I think it's more so like young can
kind of be a mindset, she realized in that like
it might seem like, oh my god, I'm almost twenty five,
quarter crisis whatever, but like I'm also like only twenty five,
you know, So it's like things like that I'm trying

to keep in mind.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Yeah, absolutely, I try to stay young in all the
ways that I can.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
I feel like it's more obvious for me as a
Disney adult in ways that I try and stay young,
but also yeah, like hanging out with friends and going
outside and having picnics in the park and even like
going clubbing and going to bars on the weekends and stuff.
We are only twenty two, and I feel like that
stuff kind of keeps me young. Everything in moderation, of course,
which I feel like always has to be said because

it does, but it's true. Like I mean, we are
only twenty two, which is crazy because sometimes it feels
like I'm thirty two with like our jobs.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
I mean, Sidney and I are both.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Very ambitious, intelligent people, and we have so much that
we're doing all at once, and it makes me feel
like I'm literally a wife with kids. I feel older
than I actually am by I think at least eight
years sometimes. So it's ver really important to remind yourself
to just unwine once in a while and remember how
young you actually are.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
My friends and I were talking about like both talks like,
oh my gosh, you have to start seeing No, we don't,
least I don't. I don't know about them.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
They're doing preventive botox.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Now what are you preventing? Like that's natural, that's normal.
But luckily being black and Asian is beautiful because black
done crack of Asian no reasons. I feel like a
few more years.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
On everybody reason that I.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Feel like I'm gonna hold on stacks. Like my mom
doesn't have any work done, and she still her face
looks pretty good, so.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
She looks at least fifteen years younger than her.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Actually that's why I'm like, I'm I'm a bet on
that and hope that that's what comes through, and if not,
then both will always be there.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
You know, just don't get stress lines from working too
hard at your big old lawyer job.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
I have friends to get photos going on death. I
saw this guy like on and off for a while
that got botox and he's twenty four, and I was like, sweet,
what are you fighting. You're fighting an invisible war because
you're literally twenty four.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
You're fighting a war that has not even started. Literally,
that's so funny.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
And also, I mean, I know I can say this
because I haven't gotten botox or any work done.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
I really think that, like aging specifically is a great thing.
And also I feel like botox, if you do it
the wrong way, it can really age you. Also, like
you know what I'm saying, when you get botox done
the wrong way, I'm a huge.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Supporter of plasma surgery in botox.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
I love seeing women feel more confident in their bodies
and adjusting things to enhance their natural beauty. Love that,
But there are some women who either want overdo it,
or get botox in the wrong places, or go to
a bad doctor where ages it has the opposite effect.
Ages you by like ten years, whereas before you look
your age, and now you look.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Older almost, you know exactly. And I feel like that's
kind of like the same thing, like when people say,
like you need to dress your age, like that thing
that works both ways. Like people like we said earlier
to tell kids that like they're too young if you
dressed in a certain way, and then we hit twenty
five and it's like, oh, you're too young or too
oldy wearing shorts and things like that. Who who gave
clothes ages? Like let people dress how they want to dress.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Like it's hot outside, I'm gonna wear short.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Literally, I'm gonna have my knees out, like it's not
gonna maybe want to pass out. I think it's so
weird how like clothes has been used for so long
just to control women, Like even in middle school, like
we couldn't wear tank tops because my collarbones my distract
little boy. Maybe maybe let's not teach the boys to
be attracted to collar bels that's weird. Or like not

being able to have my skirt above my knees at.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
School, Yeah, I wasn't allowed either, and.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Then going from that to like NYU where people wore
god knows what to class, and then going to law
school and it's like I dress like I'm twenty two.
I'll wear crop top and pants and people are like,
you're in a professional setting. I'm at school.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
It is one hundred and five degrees.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Literally, I'm wanting to be wearing what I want to wear,
like I'm not in a courtroom, I'm not talking to
a lawyer. I'm in a classroom. I want guess why
I feel comfortable Like you all might be thirty five,
I'm young. I'm young, and cue I'm gonna be wearing
my crops like it will be okay. But I think
just because like my school, it's like our year, it's
either half twenty two, twenty three, half twenty eight to
thirty five. So it's like a very big divide of

like who wear suits to classes and who wears sweatpants
and crop tops. So I'm like, just let people be
comfortable with what they're wearing. Like, if it makes you
feel good about yourself, then do what you want to do.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
What about pieces of fabric that you have on your
body determines whether or not you're going to be a
good student or professional?

Speaker 1 (49:34):
What about literally they're pieces of fabric. It is okay.
You will go to sleep at night, I promise.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Also, I think it's so funny when men comment on
skimmy bikinis.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Because they don't wear suir. I'm never not nor in
a man's fit. You're in a banana hammock.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Pack it up.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
I will never not think it's funny when men comment.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
I'm like, my skimmy bikinis, it is hot and you
are not wearing a shirt, and let me doing this
for you.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Yeah, you're an accessor.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Your kid just kN your sole purpose in life is
to live. I would love a can. Should I get
a personal assistant?

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Name him Ken period?

Speaker 1 (50:09):
I think so that'd be hilarious. He can open all
my jars for me and stuff and reach high things.
He has to be requirements. You have to be six
five and you have to have frosted tips. That's it.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
I love canon barbing the dream House that was like
a feminist piece.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
We talk about it every episode. It's true. It's true though.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
All right, you guys, I think that is the time
we have for this episode. Thank you so much for listening.
As always, you can follow us on social media Crying
in Public podcast on TikTok and Instagram, and you can
listen to Crying in Public on iHeart, Spotify, Apple Podcasts.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Or wherever you listen to your podcasts. We love you. Goodbye,
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