September 30, 2020 • 15 mins
Women's basketball legend Chasity Melvin breaks down the NBA and WNBA playoffs in the bubble.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at
production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm
Steve Smith Senior and I and this is a cut
to it bonus episode. Good do It, Good do It.
They're getting down to do it, good do it? All right,
(00:22):
so we have to breakdown and so Chastie, what we uh,
what we're gonna talk about is bubble ball. And in
bubble ball is we want your coach. You also balled,
So we want you to break down the finals right
now and also breakdown the w n B A and
(00:43):
what has gone on inside the bubble and why has
it been so successful with everything and unless So let's
start off with what I'm trying to figure out because
I'm baffled. I'm a football guy through and through. I
watched basketball from the couch. I'm coach. I don't know
if that's a good picking roll. I just he either
(01:04):
made it or he didn't not that's all. I let
the ball go in the basket. My son gets on
my nerves with this bull crap talking about pandemic p
oh man. I can't stand because I'm a Clippers fan too,
so I gets on my nerves. So please explain to me,
(01:26):
where are all these young all stars coming from that peak?
Like the heat they got, all these guys shooting threes
four months ago, these dudes where nobody's then all of
a sudden dancing they they shooting threes. Please help a
couch basketball fan like myself. Okay, all right, I'm just
(01:49):
gonna cut to it. Preston Steph Curry, who we all love,
changed the game with three point shot, and um, I
watched the NFL feel the same way you watch basketball, Steve.
I'm on the couch, like did he catch it? Like, Okay,
that's it. I don't know the like why did he
(02:10):
run outside? Why? I'm asking people, why did he just
rush straight up the middle? Like? I don't get it?
You know what I'm saying. So Um, basically, the game
has changed so much that it's a game made for
just and I know people hate for me to say
that for three point shooters. Um, back in the day,
if you watch the game you had, and I guess
the San Antonio's first obviously showed this the best you
(02:32):
had inside outside like the three point I hate people
say the three point shot wasn't always a part of
the game because it's always been a part of the game,
but now for me watching the game, it seems like
it's the only part. And so a lot of players
that are out there now knocking down threes and playing
in the NBA ten years ago wouldn't have made it
to the league. But also now be guys you know,
(02:55):
like Bam shows he can still score. Those types of
players and I'm glad that Miami Heat you do lines
as him. But those types of players are overseas, so
you don't really have those bigs and people that can
score inside or people that can get the old fashioned
end ones. They're pretty much shipped overseas and not in
the NBA anymore. So that's why you have this talent
pool where people are like, who is this dude? But
(03:17):
if he's knocking down threes and um in the NBA system,
then he's going to be successful. So that's kind of
like where the game is going to now. Do you think,
with that being said, do you think that teams are
now depending on three point shot more than they used
to be. It seems almost as if it is predicated
you run your offense. So you look at like the
Houston Rockets, it's it's almost as if it's predicated with
(03:40):
the three point shot. Yeah, it's it definitely is, And
that part of me bothered me coaching with the Greensboro Swarm.
You know, I'm I'm trying to get guys like inside
to do just an up and under. You know, there
are guys six nine, six ten that could easily average
ten and twelve by just making basic moves inside. But
they're getting the ball and dribbling to kick it out
(04:02):
to it for a three point shot. I mean, you
can see it when you watch the game, and then
you'll have guys that can go in and get an
N one like I love. I used to love how
Stephan Mary Marbury would cut the ball when he drove
to the basket against all those big dudes and finish
with the A one. You don't see guys do that anymore. Um,
Miami Heat has shown it something, but they've just kind
of gone away from that. It's like you drive to
(04:24):
pitch and that's kind of like the NBA game right now.
But I always say it's a game. It's it's just trendy.
So we're gonna it's not anything to hate on. You
enjoy it. Some people like it, some people want the
old school basketball. But I think it'll trend back to,
you know, at least having post score inside and do
(04:44):
different things. Or maybe it won't. I don't know, but
I missed. I missed the big scorner inside. So I
enjoyed watching BAM with the Miami Heat. What has the
bubble done for basketball in regards to the restart, I
think it's just made it more neutral. I think once
you get the fans out of it and the home
(05:05):
court advantage it brings it, it brings back a sense
of purity to the game of just you know, we're
in the bubble. The guys are in the bubble, and
it's just basketball, and it's um. If you played AU
or you've played in any kind of tournament like a
Thanksgiving turn or whatever, you know, it's just you guys
are there, the women are there at tournaments and it's
(05:26):
just the play. Um, you don't know who you don't.
You may not have a lot of fans. Everyone can't
fit in the GM. At the end of the day,
it's just all about basketball and bragging, right. So I
think that's what we saw in the bubble, and the
bubble is just game in game out. There's no home
court advantage. It's just we all slept pretty much in
(05:46):
the same bed as the same hotel, eating the same food,
and um, you gotta go out and play. Yeah, A
lot of a lot of the players wanted to call
the w B A bubble the bubble, so they were
getting on me because I still called it the bubble
there because I like, I don't like saying wobble. I'm
(06:08):
because I'm old school. I'm like, I'm staying the entertaining.
I'm a grown woman. You always say wobble. What's what's
been your take so far? I know the w n
B A is is still in the wobbo and the
Phoenix Merker you guys, UM, you know you you guys
are are now out of the playoffs. But what's been
your take, UM, on that whole experience so far? You
(06:29):
kind of tol us a little bit. What's been your
take on the experience so far and now previewing the
rest of the playoffs with the w n B A UM.
Just as the girls are extremely talented, like UM, shout
out to all the w B athletes athletes. They were
there with their families, with their kids, UM. Some of
their husbands were there, some of their partners were there.
So for me to see the ladies on all different
(06:51):
levels UM, day in and day out. UM, just kudos
to them. And also the fact they took on their
activism role. They started to say her name campaign UM
And obviously from a black female's perspective, we felt the
Brianna Taylor situation, We felt some of the other things
that are going on, UM as far as our concern
(07:13):
for not just ourselves but our family and black men.
So for them to carry on that role and be
consistent with it as and and also be inside of
a bubble away from family and trying to raise a
kid or you know, trying to keep a relationship in
the bubble as well as UM, give your best effort
on the court says a lot about the females Right now.
(07:33):
The Connecticut Son and uh, the Aces are battling it out.
They will have Game five tonight and the Aces aren't
gonna win without Angel mccatry being a superstar. So she
has to be a superstar again tonight or I think
the Connecticut Son will win, but no one's gonna beat
that well oiled machine. UM. In the Seattle Storm led
by Sue Bird and Brianna Stewart and jul Lloyd Um
(07:58):
the young Kobe of the w n B A. But
at the end of the day, I don't see anyone
beaten the Seattle store. Mhm okay, old predictions. Last question, un,
let's bounce back to the man. When no one saw,
no one saw that Jimmy Butler in the Miami Heat
(08:22):
going until they started playing, and all of a sudden,
now we have it. Who do you have Lebron James
led Lakers or Jimmy Butler led Miami and y I
have Lebron James. Listen, I like I said, I you
(08:43):
are smiler. I have a Lebron James fan. Um on
so many levels. Um, just because I mean and Steve,
you probably could attest this like he just created a
blueprint for athletes that I think maybe a lot of
guys are. I don't know that he created. I watched them,
(09:05):
but I ain't familiar with that one. You don't think
you don't think he created it as far as like
getting instead of making his crew like just his crew,
you know, he fired his agent, made them hire just guys,
teach them the whole teaching the ropes about you know,
becomeing agents and the behind the scenes and then just
forming a partnership with them and bringing them along as
(09:25):
far as like, I had never seen an NBA guy
do that before. You know, Just think about if Alan
Iverson would took some of his guys and kind of
help them evolve to that point, just what his legacy
would have. It would have been double what it is already. Well,
I think it's I would say this. Yeah, one, I've
(09:46):
seen it in football. It's called nepotism where the coaches, uh,
you know, their kids are around and all of a
shodding like a great example of a really good coach
right now with the s for Niners, Kyle Shannah and
his dad at you know, did that, so he was
around football. So one, you have to have a desire
and you also have to be teachable. Yeah, I don't
(10:07):
know Alan's people, so I'm not gonna I don't think
it's fair for me to say that they weren't. But
obviously Lebron's guys wanted and desire to be teachable and
learn to become who they are today. Right, So you
can always write because how many people, how many players
have you been around and now you're a coach, how
(10:29):
many coaches, how many male and females have you coached?
And you realize at some point this player is only
gonna go this far because they're in their own way.
Yeah no, but and I no, I agree to a
certain extent, like you do have to be teachable, but
at the same time, like Lebron is an eighteen year
(10:50):
old kid, Like I'm trying to I'm thinking back to
when I first went pro, and obviously I was never
on the level of an NBA player or NFL player,
But I wasn't thinking that whether I would have had
those those those people in my life. Now. I mean,
as I look back now, I'm like, you know, I
have friends that went on to become lawyers and financial advisors. Um.
(11:11):
And I'm just thinking, like an eighteen right when I
went pro, or like at twenty one, if I would
have just created my own team, like, how much more
powerful I would have been as a professional athlete. So
that's why I just I follow a lot. I think
a lot of stuff that Lebron has done since an
eighteen year old kid. Um, it just speaks volumes. Like
That's why I say I think he's someone I'm sure
(11:33):
other people have done it to a certain extent, but
he didn't know, not today the revolutionary and what you
know his team has been able to do, and how
he's been able to put other people on. For sure,
I just would have loved if I had, like, if
I could go back, I would have done that the
same way. But I wasn't thinking that way. Um. But
I don't have any regrets about my pro career or
(11:54):
what I did because I did the best that I
knew how. I think every athlete could pretty much say that. Um,
you know, you don't know what you don't know at
the end of the day. But yeah, I think moving
on though, I think the Lakers for sure are gonna
you know, Lebron will get his four three. UM, I
just don't see the Miami Heat beating them in seven games. UM.
(12:17):
I would hope they would make it a series because
it's just fun to watch and then you know it's
competitive and h for athletes who are super competitive, and um,
you know you want to make it. You want you
want to seem like, Okay, Lebron may not get this,
but I don't think how many how many games? What's
your prediction? I do. I do think the Miami Heat
(12:39):
will win one game, so Lakers and five sept I
just what I just feel like this. I do feel
like the Lakers don't shoot the three ball as well
as some other teams, and UM, as a former player
(13:00):
and as a coach, that zone just does something to you.
I mean, it is what it is. Um. Everyone hates
the zone, especially if you don't have great shooters who
can bust it wide open. So UM, if they can
have a great defensive game and then their shooters can
hit for one game, I feel like and it gets
it's close, and it comes out to the fourth quarter.
(13:20):
I really haven't been other than Lebron's last game against
the Nuggets, I haven't been a hundred percent behind the
Lakers in the fourth quarter when it's closed. They have
terrible turnovers, they can't hit shots, and so they I
don't think they've been the greatest in the fourth quarters.
So that's why I feel like Miami maybe able to
still one, but there has there has to be a
lot of things that go right for them. Jimmy's gotta
(13:42):
be getting and one's the old fashioned way. Uh. The
shooters Hero Robinson have to knock down shots and Bam
has to be unstoppable and get to the free throw line,
and then their zone has to create make them stand
um still three point shooters and they have to knock
them and they have to miss. So that's why I
can kind of see it maybe happen in one game. Um,
(14:04):
but obviously all those things have to fall in place. Well,
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This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at
production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm
Steve Smith Senior and I and this is a cut
to it bonus episode. Good do It, Good do It.
They're getting down to do it, good do it? All right,
(00:22):
so we have to breakdown and so Chastie, what we uh,
what we're gonna talk about is bubble ball. And in
bubble ball is we want your coach. You also balled,
So we want you to break down the finals right
now and also breakdown the w n B A and
(00:43):
what has gone on inside the bubble and why has
it been so successful with everything and unless So let's
start off with what I'm trying to figure out because
I'm baffled. I'm a football guy through and through. I
watched basketball from the couch. I'm coach. I don't know
if that's a good picking roll. I just he either
(01:04):
made it or he didn't not that's all. I let
the ball go in the basket. My son gets on
my nerves with this bull crap talking about pandemic p
oh man. I can't stand because I'm a Clippers fan too,
so I gets on my nerves. So please explain to me,
(01:26):
where are all these young all stars coming from that peak?
Like the heat they got, all these guys shooting threes
four months ago, these dudes where nobody's then all of
a sudden dancing they they shooting threes. Please help a
couch basketball fan like myself. Okay, all right, I'm just
(01:49):
gonna cut to it. Preston Steph Curry, who we all love,
changed the game with three point shot, and um, I
watched the NFL feel the same way you watch basketball, Steve.
I'm on the couch, like did he catch it? Like, Okay,
that's it. I don't know the like why did he
(02:10):
run outside? Why? I'm asking people, why did he just
rush straight up the middle? Like? I don't get it?
You know what I'm saying. So Um, basically, the game
has changed so much that it's a game made for
just and I know people hate for me to say
that for three point shooters. Um, back in the day,
if you watch the game you had, and I guess
the San Antonio's first obviously showed this the best you
(02:32):
had inside outside like the three point I hate people
say the three point shot wasn't always a part of
the game because it's always been a part of the game,
but now for me watching the game, it seems like
it's the only part. And so a lot of players
that are out there now knocking down threes and playing
in the NBA ten years ago wouldn't have made it
to the league. But also now be guys you know,
(02:55):
like Bam shows he can still score. Those types of
players and I'm glad that Miami Heat you do lines
as him. But those types of players are overseas, so
you don't really have those bigs and people that can
score inside or people that can get the old fashioned
end ones. They're pretty much shipped overseas and not in
the NBA anymore. So that's why you have this talent
pool where people are like, who is this dude? But
(03:17):
if he's knocking down threes and um in the NBA system,
then he's going to be successful. So that's kind of
like where the game is going to now. Do you think,
with that being said, do you think that teams are
now depending on three point shot more than they used
to be. It seems almost as if it is predicated
you run your offense. So you look at like the
Houston Rockets, it's it's almost as if it's predicated with
(03:40):
the three point shot. Yeah, it's it definitely is, And
that part of me bothered me coaching with the Greensboro Swarm.
You know, I'm I'm trying to get guys like inside
to do just an up and under. You know, there
are guys six nine, six ten that could easily average
ten and twelve by just making basic moves inside. But
they're getting the ball and dribbling to kick it out
(04:02):
to it for a three point shot. I mean, you
can see it when you watch the game, and then
you'll have guys that can go in and get an
N one like I love. I used to love how
Stephan Mary Marbury would cut the ball when he drove
to the basket against all those big dudes and finish
with the A one. You don't see guys do that anymore. Um,
Miami Heat has shown it something, but they've just kind
of gone away from that. It's like you drive to
(04:24):
pitch and that's kind of like the NBA game right now.
But I always say it's a game. It's it's just trendy.
So we're gonna it's not anything to hate on. You
enjoy it. Some people like it, some people want the
old school basketball. But I think it'll trend back to,
you know, at least having post score inside and do
(04:44):
different things. Or maybe it won't. I don't know, but
I missed. I missed the big scorner inside. So I
enjoyed watching BAM with the Miami Heat. What has the
bubble done for basketball in regards to the restart, I
think it's just made it more neutral. I think once
you get the fans out of it and the home
(05:05):
court advantage it brings it, it brings back a sense
of purity to the game of just you know, we're
in the bubble. The guys are in the bubble, and
it's just basketball, and it's um. If you played AU
or you've played in any kind of tournament like a
Thanksgiving turn or whatever, you know, it's just you guys
are there, the women are there at tournaments and it's
(05:26):
just the play. Um, you don't know who you don't.
You may not have a lot of fans. Everyone can't
fit in the GM. At the end of the day,
it's just all about basketball and bragging, right. So I
think that's what we saw in the bubble, and the
bubble is just game in game out. There's no home
court advantage. It's just we all slept pretty much in
(05:46):
the same bed as the same hotel, eating the same food,
and um, you gotta go out and play. Yeah, A
lot of a lot of the players wanted to call
the w B A bubble the bubble, so they were
getting on me because I still called it the bubble
there because I like, I don't like saying wobble. I'm
(06:08):
because I'm old school. I'm like, I'm staying the entertaining.
I'm a grown woman. You always say wobble. What's what's
been your take so far? I know the w n
B A is is still in the wobbo and the
Phoenix Merker you guys, UM, you know you you guys
are are now out of the playoffs. But what's been
your take, UM, on that whole experience so far? You
(06:29):
kind of tol us a little bit. What's been your
take on the experience so far and now previewing the
rest of the playoffs with the w n B A UM.
Just as the girls are extremely talented, like UM, shout
out to all the w B athletes athletes. They were
there with their families, with their kids, UM. Some of
their husbands were there, some of their partners were there.
So for me to see the ladies on all different
(06:51):
levels UM, day in and day out. UM, just kudos
to them. And also the fact they took on their
activism role. They started to say her name campaign UM
And obviously from a black female's perspective, we felt the
Brianna Taylor situation, We felt some of the other things
that are going on, UM as far as our concern
(07:13):
for not just ourselves but our family and black men.
So for them to carry on that role and be
consistent with it as and and also be inside of
a bubble away from family and trying to raise a
kid or you know, trying to keep a relationship in
the bubble as well as UM, give your best effort
on the court says a lot about the females Right now.
(07:33):
The Connecticut Son and uh, the Aces are battling it out.
They will have Game five tonight and the Aces aren't
gonna win without Angel mccatry being a superstar. So she
has to be a superstar again tonight or I think
the Connecticut Son will win, but no one's gonna beat
that well oiled machine. UM. In the Seattle Storm led
by Sue Bird and Brianna Stewart and jul Lloyd Um
(07:58):
the young Kobe of the w n B A. But
at the end of the day, I don't see anyone
beaten the Seattle store. Mhm okay, old predictions. Last question, un,
let's bounce back to the man. When no one saw,
no one saw that Jimmy Butler in the Miami Heat
(08:22):
going until they started playing, and all of a sudden,
now we have it. Who do you have Lebron James
led Lakers or Jimmy Butler led Miami and y I
have Lebron James. Listen, I like I said, I you
(08:43):
are smiler. I have a Lebron James fan. Um on
so many levels. Um, just because I mean and Steve,
you probably could attest this like he just created a
blueprint for athletes that I think maybe a lot of
guys are. I don't know that he created. I watched them,
(09:05):
but I ain't familiar with that one. You don't think
you don't think he created it as far as like
getting instead of making his crew like just his crew,
you know, he fired his agent, made them hire just guys,
teach them the whole teaching the ropes about you know,
becomeing agents and the behind the scenes and then just
forming a partnership with them and bringing them along as
(09:25):
far as like, I had never seen an NBA guy
do that before. You know, Just think about if Alan
Iverson would took some of his guys and kind of
help them evolve to that point, just what his legacy
would have. It would have been double what it is already. Well,
I think it's I would say this. Yeah, one, I've
(09:46):
seen it in football. It's called nepotism where the coaches, uh,
you know, their kids are around and all of a
shodding like a great example of a really good coach
right now with the s for Niners, Kyle Shannah and
his dad at you know, did that, so he was
around football. So one, you have to have a desire
and you also have to be teachable. Yeah, I don't
(10:07):
know Alan's people, so I'm not gonna I don't think
it's fair for me to say that they weren't. But
obviously Lebron's guys wanted and desire to be teachable and
learn to become who they are today. Right, So you
can always write because how many people, how many players
have you been around and now you're a coach, how
(10:29):
many coaches, how many male and females have you coached?
And you realize at some point this player is only
gonna go this far because they're in their own way.
Yeah no, but and I no, I agree to a
certain extent, like you do have to be teachable, but
at the same time, like Lebron is an eighteen year
(10:50):
old kid, Like I'm trying to I'm thinking back to
when I first went pro, and obviously I was never
on the level of an NBA player or NFL player,
But I wasn't thinking that whether I would have had
those those those people in my life. Now. I mean,
as I look back now, I'm like, you know, I
have friends that went on to become lawyers and financial advisors. Um.
(11:11):
And I'm just thinking, like an eighteen right when I
went pro, or like at twenty one, if I would
have just created my own team, like, how much more
powerful I would have been as a professional athlete. So
that's why I just I follow a lot. I think
a lot of stuff that Lebron has done since an
eighteen year old kid. Um, it just speaks volumes. Like
That's why I say I think he's someone I'm sure
(11:33):
other people have done it to a certain extent, but
he didn't know, not today the revolutionary and what you
know his team has been able to do, and how
he's been able to put other people on. For sure,
I just would have loved if I had, like, if
I could go back, I would have done that the
same way. But I wasn't thinking that way. Um. But
I don't have any regrets about my pro career or
(11:54):
what I did because I did the best that I
knew how. I think every athlete could pretty much say that. Um,
you know, you don't know what you don't know at
the end of the day. But yeah, I think moving
on though, I think the Lakers for sure are gonna
you know, Lebron will get his four three. UM, I
just don't see the Miami Heat beating them in seven games. UM.
(12:17):
I would hope they would make it a series because
it's just fun to watch and then you know it's
competitive and h for athletes who are super competitive, and um,
you know you want to make it. You want you
want to seem like, Okay, Lebron may not get this,
but I don't think how many how many games? What's
your prediction? I do. I do think the Miami Heat
(12:39):
will win one game, so Lakers and five sept I
just what I just feel like this. I do feel
like the Lakers don't shoot the three ball as well
as some other teams, and UM, as a former player
(13:00):
and as a coach, that zone just does something to you.
I mean, it is what it is. Um. Everyone hates
the zone, especially if you don't have great shooters who
can bust it wide open. So UM, if they can
have a great defensive game and then their shooters can
hit for one game, I feel like and it gets
it's close, and it comes out to the fourth quarter.
(13:20):
I really haven't been other than Lebron's last game against
the Nuggets, I haven't been a hundred percent behind the
Lakers in the fourth quarter when it's closed. They have
terrible turnovers, they can't hit shots, and so they I
don't think they've been the greatest in the fourth quarters.
So that's why I feel like Miami maybe able to
still one, but there has there has to be a
lot of things that go right for them. Jimmy's gotta
(13:42):
be getting and one's the old fashioned way. Uh. The
shooters Hero Robinson have to knock down shots and Bam
has to be unstoppable and get to the free throw line,
and then their zone has to create make them stand
um still three point shooters and they have to knock
them and they have to miss. So that's why I
can kind of see it maybe happen in one game. Um,
(14:04):
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