Sharna Burgess in the 4th Chair: 20th Birthday Party

It’s the celebration of the century! Sharna Burgess was sitting in the ballroom for the DWTS 20th birthday party and if giving you her front row take of every dance. 

We’re getting down to the nitty gritty, and Sharna has some thoughts on all those perfect scores. Plus, hear her opinion on the Relay Dance and what she thought of the fan favorite elimination - all from the 4th chair, the best seat in the house…

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
And now welcome to the ballroom in the fourth judges chair.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's Shanna Burgess.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
What's up, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of
Shanna Burgers in the fourth chair.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I am Shanna Burgess. I am still recovering from the
emotional night that was the.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Twentieth anniversary of Dancing with the Stars, twenty years of
the most incredible show, nearly fifteen years of my own life,
seventeen seasons. I think it was I want to say
thirteen partners. Someone come in the comments and correct me.
It was a wild night seeing people that I have
known for so long, that I haven't seen for so long.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
The after party, let me tell you, I wish you
could all have.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Been in the room to just see the magic of
the years of history of the people that have worked
on this show, that have brought it to life.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
The speech by Conrad Green, he is the magic.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
He brought it back. He's brought it back to life.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Bigger and better than ever, while keep the nostalgia of
what we were all those years ago. And he's just
so wonderful, and the acknowledgment that he had for everyone
that's been on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
It was really special. That's why he's an incredible leader.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Obviously, Dina Katz as well being an incredible casting director
and executive producer on the show. The whole team is
wonderful and to be there and be a part of
it was a really emotional experience.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I let me tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Okay, the opening number, let's get stuck into that.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
First of all, Derek Haff what a wonderful and incredible piece,
so nuanced with the layers and the way that he
rearranged the Dancing with the Stars theme song, the.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Layers of having something so incredibly traditional with our original
six that came out original six.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Oh my god, all the feels, all the nostalgia.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
The moves that they were doing, to then come down
onto the floor with something that is a bit more
modern and now and We're Dancing with the Stars has
evolved to that has involved commercial dance. Then, oh my god,
my heart strings when we come into the waltz section
with a little bit of Moon River sampled, which was
our Len Goodman's favorite song and the single Spotlight on
his Chair stuff, and I'm gonna get emotional again. And

(02:08):
then to see, oh the dancers spin towards the stage
and that stage open with this Angel heaven Light and
Tom bergeron walk out. I can still barely control my
emotions in thinking about it. It was so spectacular in
having him back in the ballroom, having his voice in
the ballroom, that sound of him, here's the sound of

(02:30):
dancing with the stars.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
He always will be.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
It does not mean that I don't absolutely love and
I'm obsessed with Alfonso and Julianne.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
But that's where I started. You know, Tom was the beginning.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
He's the og, just like those pros, just like our
original three judges, just like Len Goodman. So I am
deep in my fields today. I also go to my
fields with some of the numbers to everyone was spectacular.
I thought it was the most incredible night. We did
see Andy go home, which obviously it was his time,
but no one really knew.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
The buzz and the audience was like, who's.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
It gonna be, because no one really knew if it
was gonna be Andy or not.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
But we did end up with Andy going home.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
It looked all in all, it was an incredible, incredible night.
I honestly can't even put it to words. I'm still
processing and recovering from the emotion and the beauty of
it all and the love that was in that room.
But before I ramble on too long for you all
about my own feels, let's just get straight into the couples.
We start off with Elaine and Alan and they were

(03:32):
doing a salsa.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
We'll go right into what the judges said.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
So Tom, being a personal friend of Elaine, came right
out with his microphone, trying to be all stoic, and
then he just jumped up and down and said that
it was really really good and gave her a cuddle.
I must say, by the way, having Tom as a
judge before we even move forward, I thought he was wonderful,
you know. I thought he was really aligned with where
the dancers were, what the judges saw, and again just

(03:56):
having his magic be out there. I love the things
he said, and it was wonderful having him there. So
definitely a beautiful move by dancing with the stars and
Tom to have him in that chair. Bruno said it
was quality, it was special, and she is like the best.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Champagne always goes down a treat.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Carrie Anne said that she when she looks at her
she sees resilience, you know, and two weeks ago she
could barely even dance, and now she's out there just
kicking booty, I think with her words, and that is true,
like Elaine is not letting this injury stop her. I
don't know if we're going to really know how much
pain she's actually in. She just refuses to give in,

(04:37):
and that is like I think I've said this on
another episode, that era of dancer that Carrie Anne comes from,
and maybe why she sees that resilience in her and
where Elaine was when she was beginning.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Her dance career. That's like the chorus.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Line, eat nails, you know your feet are bleeding. We
don't care, no time for a break like it dances.
We are brutal, we are beasts, and the things that
we can put through is unbelievable. To our detriment sometimes
and I hope it's not to Elaine's detriment. That's not
what I'm saying, but you can see she has that
grit in her, that absolute fire of never give up,

(05:10):
not gonna let this stop me, and I so love
seeing that in her. Derek said she is a salsa queen,
called out the continuous spins and then said, this is
the quarter finals and that's all I'm going to say,
I don't entirely know what he meant by that. Maybe
he's saying this is we're heading into the corner finals
and the pressure is on, or we got to up

(05:31):
the ante, or you're straight in. I couldn't decipher what
he really thought of that. Let me know your thoughts
in the comments. But going back to these continuous spins,
so now these are incredibly hard. Was what she was
doing was a spin after spin after spin where she
has to spot Allan in the middle of her turning.
He is the access point basically, and she is turning

(05:53):
around that so not only is she spinning, she's also
spinning in a circle and Allan is leading.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Now this is no easy thing, even if is leading it.
You have to be.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
So solid on your spot. I know pro dancers that
can't do that. You know, it takes a hot minute
to figure it out. And it was very, very impressive.
I thought she had really wonderful fast footwork. I thought
that she really like nailed the character.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
She had a little rhythm in her body, though I
could have gone for a little.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Bit more, especially because we couldn't necessarily do big tricks.
I love that they got some tricks in there, but
a little bit more like rhythm and flavor in her body.
I think would have picked it up just to touch.
I know, we have metal in our feet, so we
can't necessarily stretch our feet all the way that we
want to. But I did feel that the legs were
not as stretched as they could have been on some

(06:42):
of the tricks, so I would have loved to have
seen that a bit more from her.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
And I felt like, you know, it's really hard for them.
Going first.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
There was just this massive emotional piece that is like
a culmination of all the Dancing with the Stars has
been for the last twenty years, and then they have
to come out and not only are they not doing
an emotional piece, they're doing a salsa, which a salsa
can sometimes feel like chatcha, a little bit monotonous and
the little bit same same. And I'm not saying that

(07:12):
they were, but I can see how it didn't necessarily
feel like her greatest dance, even though she was moving
really well, because of just the placement of it. And
I think anyone would have had that, you know, coming
after the opening number, in the moment that we were in.
But I also don't know that it was her best dance,
so for me, the judges ended up on a nine

(07:33):
nine nine nine.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
I was actually very aligned with that.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
She still moved really well, her feet were tidy and
fast and clean, her lines were beautiful.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
There was a lot to love in this dance.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
But for me, it didn't reach a ten because I
did want those legs to be stretched out a little
bit more. And I don't know that it was as
dynamic as I would have loved for it to be.
So don't know what I'm really asking from it choreographically.
Is it that or is it just musicality? But it
was just a little bit flatter than I wanted it
to be for her. But they have survived. They are

(08:03):
in the next week. Alan and Elaine's journey so far
has been wonderful. I do love watching her. I fully
agree with carry In on the resilience of her, and
I really do hope that we see her in the finals. However,
I'm worried, you know, I'm worried it's gonna be well,
who knows who it's going to be. Well, let's come
back to speculations at the end of the episode, but

(08:24):
it's going to be tight to see who's going to
be in that final, And I'm unsure at the moment
if it's a four or five couple final, but yes,
so I ended up at a nine, and the judges
all gave.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
It a nine.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
We were aligned moving into Good Lord, this one made
me emotional.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
You guys Robert and Whitney doing their Fox shot.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Oh now, can I just say, first of all, in
the room, I could have nearly given damn it any
one a ten like it was.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
It was.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
The energy and the emotion in the room was absolutely spectacular.
I've seen some people commenting on scores not being what
they thought. I totally feel you maybe watching it at home,
you've got it, under stand how it felt in the room,
and so just know that. So that'll make sense when
we get into the scores on this one, because I've
had the opportunity to now watch it from my computer

(09:10):
instead of sitting in the room. So let's get into it.
The judges said first, Bruno said it was a poetic
tribute that touched all of us. He couldn't take his
eyes off of him. And not only does he have
the Royal Seal of approval, I think he said, he
has the people's seal of approval, which, look, I think
that's a given and I agree with all of that.
It was a beautiful, poetic tribute, and I think Whitney

(09:33):
did a fantastic job at the choreography and the storytelling.
Oh my god, I'm the tying and of Bindi at
the end, I can't We'll get emotional again.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Carrie Anne said, well, we all saw that foot off.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
The ground, but some moments can change the way that
we do things, meaning the way that she does things.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
She's so proud of him.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
He's gone from this really charismatic guy that we saw
with that jive in week one into this story telling
dancer with an open heart. And then she said, who
cares about lifts? I actually love this from Kerrian. Now,
normally I would want consistency across the board, right, and
I get that, and I look, would I make the

(10:12):
same choice, I don't know, But I love that Carrian
showed this other, like human side of her where this
trick that was an accident that the lift came up.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
They didn't mean to do it.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
It was a swing in momentum and her foot swung
off the floor. Sometimes those are really hard to keep
your feet on the ground. They weren't trying to do
a lift, so it wasn't a blatant break of the rules.
I think having her come out and be like, you know,
some moments can change the way we do things, because
that touched her so deeply. I respect that, actually, and
I love that because there truly was something about this

(10:43):
dance that was as special as when you know BINDI
danced to it and tying it all in and it
was a real moment. Derek said, emotional in his feels
made me emotional, so proud to be a part of
the Irwin story. His father live life with enthusiasm, and
Robert is this generation's version of that, and he's not

(11:05):
just walking through the path or the footsteps, he's dancing
through it. I thought it was beautifully said by Derek.
You know, I know we're in a dance competition. I
know this is dancing with the stars, and I know
that sometimes you guys want critiques, but there are some
moments that get to just be artistry, and I feel
like this was artistry. Tom said that he's called him
a star basically, So in the room, let me be

(11:28):
fully transparent.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
In the room, I was sobbing damn the ugly crying.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Actually I was ugly crying because of the footage that
came up on the floor and watching him drop to
a knee, like the footage of him and his dad
and Bindi when their babies stop it. I'm gonna cry
again now.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
And it was just it was beautiful, It was beautifully done.
It was musical. He had this flow and rhythm in
his body like it was wonderful. So I absolutely see
how four ten paddles got held up. Now as I
get back to go and watch it from my home,
sitting and looking at my computer and trying to remove
myself and just look a dance from a different angle,

(12:06):
I can see there are certain little things in there
where I could go. Maybe that's on the lower end
of a ten, because let's remember we have ten points,
so every point has a spectrum or a higher end
of a nine.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
So my actual notes that I've.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Written down now after having watched it back, A texture
in the arms, beautiful, so much texture, so much emotion
coming through them. You could feel that he was making
this real for himself. And I loved that. I so
lovely rise and fall, sometimes a little bit poppy, not
as smooth with the drive, but really lovely rise and fall.

(12:41):
And not only did he have rise and fall, he
had sway in his ribs. Sway, if you remember, is
what we've talked about when your rib cage yawns not
by bending one side, but by lifting and giving air into.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
The rib cage on the opposite side.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
That gives us a beautiful tilt in our shape without
breaking the one side of us. I feel like he
did beautifully in that while doing the rise and fall,
so it gave just a lovely motion to this fox trot.
I also really felt that his frame was nice and
his footwork was actually pretty clean. He didn't feel as
flat footed. His heels and toe rises and all sorts

(13:15):
heel rises and toe lowers were all really quite beautiful.
He has this now watching it back from the angles
that in the camera, he has this movement in his
body that has like this almost a body roll effect,
almost like something is a little bit too exaggerated in
the contraction and the texture in his body. So there
were moments where I thought, oh, not that it fully distorted,

(13:38):
but it did just go a little bit too far,
like it almost collapsed and came back up better than
having nothing absolutely, but I would pull that back just
a touch so it's a little bit more of a
taste of it instead of it means such a whole
big action.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
But I thought he did do really well. The emotion
of it was just just so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
And then again, as I said, to see him hit
that final moment of watching the footage of him and
his dad and Bindi and Bindi coming in to bookend,
the way that Derek and Bindi did their freestyle, it
was just really, really beautiful. So now in watching it back,
sure I could be more like a nine to ten,
but I totally respect and see how the judges got

(14:22):
to a ten ten ten ten I did in the
room as well. I really think, guys, that Robert is
the one to beat at the moment. And here's why.
We have other phenomenal dancers, right. We have Whitney who
has dance training. We have Alex, who I believe had
dance training previously and is doing a phenomenal job with
Val and also has a big fan base. So I
could be wrong here. It could be alexis to take

(14:44):
home too. But Robert reminds me of Joey in the
sense of he is brilliant enough that you're like, oh
my god, he's such a great dancer, but he has
enough imperfections, like that little bit of an over exaggeration
in the body action.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
We go, oh, but he's not a dancer.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
So he is all the things that you want to
dance It with the Stars contestant to be tied with
the Irwin family legacy, tied with his absolute genuine love
of this experience and giving it everything and leaving his
heart on the floor. He's kind of like the perfect
contestant for Dancing with the Stars. We might be seeing
Whitney get another mirror ball, and I wouldn't be mad
at it.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
I loved this dance. I loved it.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
It made me cry. I was so very proud of
watching it and seeing Whitney, by the way emotional in
the Skybarks.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Whitney does it.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Not that she's not emotional, she is absolutely but you
could see the bond between them and how proud she
is because like she was getting emotional too, and I
thought that was really beautiful to see.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Well well done you guys.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Okay getting into Andy and Emma doing a quick step.
Carrie Anne said, it is a privilege watching you show
up week after week, even when it's hard, even when
you don't know if it's going to be great, And
the courage that he displays every week is just wonderful.
He's turning into a dancer, she mentioned, and she's loved

(16:02):
watching him grow. I think we can all echo that,
you know from carry in. It has been an absolute
privilege and joy to watch Andy take to this floor,
to watch him truly grow and come out of his
shell even more and learn to dance and love this
experience of it. And he's just spread joy naturally with

(16:23):
who he is as a person. And again we go
back to saying, here's what this show has always been about.
Someone that doesn't know how to do it, that might
be a little uncomfortable doing it. That's getting out there
and doing it anyway. That's getting out there and doing
the thing that's hard in front of millions of people.
And I'm so proud of Andy too. I'm so very
proud of Emma and her work this season.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Derek said, he's proud of him and he's doing it.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
He's like, you're doing it, man, And he called out
the chasse's moving along the floor, and he had a.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Great likeness to them, like I will agree with Derek.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
There there was the chasseis when the feit go like
side close side, right eight steps side close side, changed direction,
side close side changed direction, and so you do a
lot of those in quick step, and he was doing
it then. He was doing them on his toes. They
had a lightness to them. He was really moving around
that floor. I think the most steps we've seen him
do all season, and I think he handled it as

(17:16):
the best he could. And we had Tom that said
that commented on his own dance that I think Len
saw one time and he said that Len would have
loved it, and Bruno said, you did it.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
It was quick and it had lots of steps. Okay.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
So my notes were, look, if we're getting into dance things.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
The frame was very down.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
We didn't have a proper frame, the elbows were down,
there was lots of gapping, and.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Then I just wrote, I love his performances. I love him.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
And he did a really nice timing on the slow
quick quick slow. There was a little weaving step that
they do with there's a play in timing. He did
a great a great job with that and I was
really impressed because sometimes timing has been an issue for him.
There are a few out of sync issues, you know,
but it's all in all. I think we watch Andy
and take it in for the inspiration and the joy

(18:07):
of it, which we also need on this show. Emma's
choreography was brilliant with him brilliant the whole season. But
I really loved the way she handled the challenge of
giving him so much content this week, and not only
that they had two dances, one of which she was
not going to be in with him.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Like this was a crazy week for these guys.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
We have to take that into account too, the magic
that they created under the pressure that they had for
this week, all couples. So I really am very very
proud of them. Now, the judges weren't a little higher,
as you know usual on Andy than I would have carry.
Anne went eight. Then we had seven, seven, seven from
our three men. I landed on a five. Potentially could

(18:50):
have been a four, but I had him at a
five because there was a decent amount of content in
there that he got going and he had a great
lightness to his feet.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
You know.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
The five is not a reflection of how much I
love watching them, you guys know, that it's just a
reflection of what I saw technically on the floor. But
I have been obsessed with Andy and Emma this season.
I've been a Fandy and I think we've talked at
length about what if he went all the way?

Speaker 2 (19:12):
What if he wanted? What do you know? What if?
What if?

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Because he really is what the show's about. But I
think his journey came to an end at the perfect point.
I think we got to see so much from him,
and now we get to move forward into these next
two weeks with the remaining couples, who were all spectacular.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
In their talent and dance, and who knows where it's
going to go. But Andy and Emma, I'm so proud
of you.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
I've loved watching your work and you will be missed,
but I've loved your journey.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
All right.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Moving into Dylan and Danny, you guys, I can this
woman's core. The strength in her core makes me miss
my dancer body, Like good lord, do I miss feeling
that strong when I move? It has been a hot
minute since I felt that strong. I have absolute body envy,
let corese strength envy of her, and it was just spectacular.

(20:10):
That's not to take away from Dylan right, and his
strength and balance on what he was doing in this too.
But Danny is just otherworldly, you know what I mean,
It's so great. Let's get into the judges first. Derek
turned around and said one of Len's lines, hold my gaze,
and so that was your breakthrough moment by a long shot.

(20:32):
He has been the most surprising. The improvement has been astonishing,
and complimented Danny on the choreography. I one hundred percent
agree his improvement has been unreal. I would say, you know,
we've seen him do so many things. He plateaued out
a little bit there, and then now we have this
moment come out. It's really just wild to see and

(20:54):
the power and the strength he had in this that
it was it was stoic, but not you know, there
was a beautiful chemistry between them. The way he led
it was ridiculous and we will get into that in
a moment. But I love those comments from Derek because
I agree the improvement in him has been astonishing. Tom's
called him a leading man, which I agree. I think

(21:16):
he said something like, your brother's the actor, but you're
the leading man. Bruno said, You're not just dancing, you're
starring and you did it perfectly. Carrie Anne said his
journey has been outstanding. Compared his tangos to Jial's Marine
He Jials who danced with Peter for Argentine Tango and

(21:36):
says that he took the top spot. Now, this is
for a male celebrity we're talking about, obviously, not a
female celebrity, because it is very, very different in that sense.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
I don't know, I've got to go back and watch.
I remember Jeal's and Peter being pretty spectacular.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
I'd have to go back and watch a fully comment
on that, but it is a massive compliment coming from
Carrianne My notes. Basically, first thing I wrote when watching
it back again was holy crap, like, which is exactly
how I felt in the moment. I was like, I
like clutched my pearls and gasped at just the strength
in her being parallel to the floor and the whole

(22:13):
little walking things she did on the beat on the music.
It was just so beautiful and so well choreographed for him,
for her, just really well done.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
The change. So let's talk about the steps that were
in this.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Okay, I know we're going to get into this because
you're going to compare it to Whitney and Mark and
how many things she did or how many things Mark
did in comparison to.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Dylan, Like, yes, I get you. Is there more that
Dylan could have done?

Speaker 1 (22:38):
More flourishes, possibly, but what he did so much more
than most male celebrities do. You have to take that
in Like in the past, we've had Argentine tangos that
are not really on Argentin tango. I've done some of
them because it's just what you can do with the person.
The point is those kicks, those flicks, those gan shows,
those shows, those links, those soicatas. They are not easy.

(23:01):
It is not easy to keep it that smooth and
that sharp. The movements were slick, the retractions on the
flicking of the ganchos and the odos like.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
It was just beautiful.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Paired with the fact that when they're doing these steps,
very much in Argentine tango, it's not that you independently kick,
flick or move your leg.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
It is all a chain reaction.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
There is specifically a step that they did in the
beginning called the chain step. Now, as they were doing
it and they were circling around the floor, the one
person doesn't move their leg until the other person activates
it by moving it. Go back and watch it, like
both Whitney and Mark do this, and both and Dylan
and Danny do this. But they were doing it authentically.
They weren't just pushing through the moves and muscling them themselves.

(23:45):
They were waiting to be led and indicated to move,
activated to move by their partner. Male and female do
this for each other in Argentine tango. It would be
like if you relate it to say, a regular tango
and they're in frame, but we're talking about there being
lots of gapping and no following and no letting everything is.

(24:05):
It feels a bit disjointed. That's what Argentine tango really is.
If what people aren't connecting the legs and the links
and the things aren't flicking, that means they're just doing
it independently.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Danny and Dylan did this together. He was leading her.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
If you watch the nuances of when his legs and
his feet connect with her legs and feet, he is
activating her and moving her. Now, let's talk about the
tricks that they did. Let me tell you that double
twist I've only pulled off with one other other partner.
I've tried this with other male pros, not necessarily in
Dancing with the Stars here, but I've tried this with

(24:38):
other professional male dancers and not nailed it.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
It is hard to keep consistent. This was a ballsy move.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Insider information Danny had let me know that they did
not land it in the dress rehearsal. That lift, that
double twist lift did not go on the dress rehearsal.
And they nailed it, which is why they had that
little cheeky smile with each other when they nailed it
in the live show.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Now that is a risk that pays off. It was brilliant.
I loved this routine, you guys. I loved it. What
more would I want from it? Now?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
This was another one that in the moment I was like,
tens across the board, give me a ten, feeding for
a ten for them. I can see how some people
would feel, especially when comparing the two of them, like
Dylan to Whitney, who also got a ten. Why they
feel that maybe Dylan got overscored. You have to understand

(25:29):
how hard it is for him to do what he
did and the learning to lead. He had the beautiful
a faint frame posture, his legs and feet were in
the right positions, his feet were kissing the floor, he
had nice closes, he was for the most part, quite tidy.
It really was brilliant. Was his footwork as complicated as Whitney's.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
No, definitely not.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
He did do the tricks which are incredibly complicated, and
they would have had to spend a lot of time
rehearsing those things. So you have to take that into
account too. But if I watch it back and I
look at it, I still want to give ten. Let's
remember ten as a spectrum. He would be on the
lower end of a ten. Whitney would be on the
higher end, just simply because of her dance ability.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
But I can see how.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Maybe you could have had a nine in there in
just wanting more content from him doing more, maybe in comparison,
but at the night you don't have the ability to compare.
You just have to score it in the moment. And
so I look, I'm under nine to ten here because
I got to watch it back the next day, But
I really in the room was a ten. You guys,
you got to understand the way that that felt in

(26:29):
the room and how much he actually did do that.
Maybe you don't see. It really was impressive. So Dylan
and Danny, I'm a huge fan. This was amazing. It
was otherworldly and Danny, I want to have your core again.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Damn it. I used to have that. Okay, let's move
in to Jordan and Ezra.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
There's been a lot of chatter about this one as
well on my socials and comment sections, so let's get
into it. Tom said that it got hot in the room.
Let's turn the ac on. Bruno said he called her
a bad girl. Bruno was mild. The last person who
called a bad girl was Andy's daughter. I think earlier
this season, I was like, Bruno, no, naughty girl. He

(27:14):
caught her a naughty girl. I think it's the language thing.
He doesn't realize sometimes the way it comes across. He said,
you brought sexy back. Then we go over to carry Anne.
She said it was a really strong dance, but it
was a little wild at times, and her shoulders are
coming up in the turns.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Now, this is true.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Something that I really felt about Jordan while watching It
was a couple things, and we'll get into that in
a moment.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
But she was very out of the floor, so it
felt like it was out.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Of the floor, and it was a little stiffer than
I wanted it to be, and everything felt like it
was rising, which goes into the shoulders that Carrianne's talking
about that was sort of coming up, that was shortening
her neck, and it didn't feel as lengthened as say
her rumba right, and especially in her turns, they tend
to come up, which is natural, right, that your energy

(27:59):
sort of goes and everything pulls up because you're turning
where you have to think of the opposite of driving
down into the ground, driving and grounding yourself when turning soap,
or just in general with dancing. So I do agree
with carry and I felt it was a little out
of the floor and the shoulders were a little high.
And then Derek said he talked about the quality in

(28:21):
her rumber and said that he saw it again tonight.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
He closed his eyes.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
He was going on about a bunch of things settling
in her weight, the texture in her body. With some
of them, he said he loves those things more than
the tricks. I think he was really trying to point
out to them that this was my takeaway. Anyway, I
don't want to put words into Derek's mouth. But this
was my takeaway that.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Just because you can do.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
All the tricks and the things, it doesn't mean you
have to do all the tricks in the things. She
is a fantastic dancer and can do more dancing than
most right, so he loves it when he's seeing that
texture and those technical things that we as dancers geek
out about, the little isms that are hard to teach
just any regular celebrity that hasn't actually danced before, but
someone like Jordan who has such an awareness of her body,

(29:05):
you can really get into those nuances and those things
we really really love to see. And he said that
he saw it. Now for me what I felt. Let
me start with saying that chatcha is a really hard
dance to have this late in the game.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Chatcha is monotonous. It always is, and it's hard.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
It's a really hard technique to get strong, and it's
got a monotonous rhythm to it. There are not many
chatchas that I've absolutely loved unless they've been super blended
with like a commercial style, maybe even a group thing.
That chatcha is that two three chat cha cha two
three chat cha chat.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
It just kind of lives in that world and doesn't get.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
As dynamic as you want it to, paired with the
whole straight leg action, which can look really awkward on
some people. And then you know, unless you've got like
Danny and Pasha doing a chutcha or any of the
pros doing a chutcha, you sort of lose the new
of what it could have. It doesn't get as dynamic
as it could because it feels a little repetitive. So
I think we sort of fell into that a little

(30:07):
bit with Jordan. I did she do a really good job.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
She did a great job. Is she a great dancer.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
She's a great dancer, But it was just missing something
for me. I actually felt like she was not settling
in her hips. So I think we've seen more texture
from her in previous dances. This felt a little bit
Barbie stick straight, which means that she's not settling into
the hips. She's not working through the standing leg to
actually create that distance with the foot, to create power
to move. It felt like it didn't have any power

(30:36):
in it because it was so underneath itself making sure
that legs were just stick straight, and so that then
led to the hips being a little squared off and
not as much movement in them, not as much movement
in the body, the shoulders rising up, and then it
just lost the gooyness of what cha cha can have
right in the body. And I don't mean guey as

(30:56):
in like slow, I mean rhythm in the body. So
unfortunately I didn't love this one for Jordan, you know.
And again I think they're up against it hard with
the dancing. I also felt like some of her lines
that she was hitting and this is a bit of
a gymnast thing. Her arms were like way over extending
back and then her back was arching with it, kind
of like when gymnasts finish a vault pass or a

(31:20):
move or they come off the bars and they do
the end pose. It sort of was reminiscent of that,
which means it was lacking some rotation in her body.
It means the arm was just going out back without
the shoulder and the chest coming forward and the ribcage
coming forward. So we were losing some of the stretched
texture and dynamic and it was just becoming a little
bit gymnast like for me.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
So I mean, moving.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Forward, I would love to see her if she if
she does have another Latin dance, like really working into
those hips, like actually creating that connection with the floor,
driving through the standing leg, getting that proper true hip
action of.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Settling into it. Isolation is what I'm looking forward.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
It's going to give us more isolation in her body,
the snowman that we've talked about before, where the three
layers can move independently and in different directions. We need
a little bit more of that from Jordan, along with
the pushing into the floor and getting grounded into her
hips and her feet, using her feet a little bit more.
It's still a high score from me, like I still
have it at a nine, because what she did do

(32:18):
was great and musical, and she gave it a great performance.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
I don't know that it was.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Necessarily that cheeky, floaty, sexy chut chu cha that we
usually love and that is the original essence and flavor
that we go for in a chut yard, but it
definitely had a fierceness to it. Like I love her
fierceness when she gets into that, but I think we
only saw that on the more commercial, strutted out Beyonce moves,
not necessarily on her chutchyar content.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
If I'm going to be one hundred percent honest with you.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
I part of me even wanted to go an eight
on it, just because I feel it fell flat. But
I do think that was executed well. So I landed
on a nine. Our judges landed on a nine ten,
nine to nine. I'm very excited to see with they
have come up next week. I think it's Argentine Tango,
which I bet you is gonna be spectacular, So I
can't wait to see that. Okay, getting into Alex and Vow,

(33:11):
let me tell you how this girl has made a
fan out of me over the space of the season.
Y'll no, I was not that into it in the beginning.
I was like, I'm not really connecting with her. I
kind of need more. It was just kind of whatever,
And now I consider me a fan. Let's get into
the judges. So Bruno said, have I entered ballroom Heaven? Yes, Len,

(33:32):
this is how you do it. Basically said that she
captured old Hollywood Golden Age, which absolutely she did in
the way that she looked and moved, and like even
the way.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
She animated, which we'll get into. But I agree with this.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
I think it was beautifully done, beautifully choreographed, and really
well executed.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
She looked gorgeous too.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
By the way, Carrie Anne said that she agrees with
Bruno and she noticed that she is letting go and
that is really what the hard and soul of the
show is, is just truly like letting yourself be you
out on there and showing everyone who you are, that vulnerability,
which I love that she called that out because I
think that's also why I'm male fan of her, that
I feel like I'm actually seeing her instead of what

(34:11):
she was trying to put forward or nervous about putting forward.
We're really seeing a true, authentic Alex And I love
that she said there's so much elegance. The lines were smooth,
smooth moves. She raved, she loved it basically, and then
we have Derek that came up and said it was clean,
it was classic, it was stylish, it was sophisticated, and
that foxtrot was flawless.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
And then we went into.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Tom who said it was goosebump inducing and said it
was a chemistry class. Why I love that one from
Tom is because I felt very early on in the
season there was zero chemistry between these guys and I
actually saw some of you guys saying that online too,
and I found it really beautiful to acknowledge, and also
same I agree, we get to see chemistry between them

(34:55):
now there's like a friendship that is bringing out this
really beautiful, full chemistry on the floor because they're connected,
they're doing it together. It's not two individual people, They're
in this together. They're that team.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
God.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
That's some of the things that I love about Dancing
with the Stars, seeing people connect and become a team,
Like you're watching a whole relationship develop and unfold, and
it's just absolutely beautiful. So my very first thing that
I wrote down was she is so animated, which is
something we have been wanting from her, to.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Truly give it face. I do still.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Think now, while I thought this was spectacular and I
loved everything about it, and before I even say the
rest of it, the judges gave it all tens, and
I ended up giving it a ten as well. I
thought it was amazing, and again ten is a spectrum.
But I do feel there is just that one thing now.
Everything else was so great. Her arms were beautiful, the
way she was using them and releasing her back and
her neck into it, the way she would fold her

(35:47):
hand over and then twist her wrists, so it was
the back of her palm going down. Then she'd twist
it and it was the front of her palm going down.
Like these are little nuances and things that you have
to teach and you may not ness csarily noticed, but
that's like the little next level detail stuff. So much
music and texture in her body and what she was doing,
it was gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
I loved her lines. I thought the frame was lovely.
There is just still that gapping man.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
There is just that little bit of gapping where really
really really want her to get in and put her
crutch on his leg, like you're supposed to put your
vagina on the man's leg and he's supposed to put
his penis on the girl's leg. I don't know if
I'm allowed to say that, but it is. We lovingly
call it vol and dol because it is. It creates
the idea that you are supposed to be locked and

(36:36):
that way you are connected low you can push out
up the top and create this frame, create the distance
from each other, and so your access point, your center point,
your center of gravity together is connected and lower to
the ground. And what I notice happened with Alex and
Val every time is that it's more like their chests
are together and their hips are away from each other,
and we just need it to.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Be the opposite.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
And I would love, love life to see that happen
before the end of the end of the season. However,
it was a little better this week, and I think
the choreography was really well designed around it.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
I thought the routine was beautiful.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Let's remember it's an American smooth style, so open frame,
changing frame, all of that is good.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
But I just it's just the one thing that slap man.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
She's improved so much in like absolute leaps and bounds.
But I very very much want them to have this
body contact going through to another ballroom dance. Should they
have it again. I've said this before, Vow is an
absolute beast. I've loved watching him create and work with
her this season. I can imagine the pressure knowing Val
that he's got on himself all of the couples. When

(37:40):
you get to this point, by the way, the pros
and the pressure that you're putting on yourself is immense.
You don't want to mess it up. You don't want
to do the wrong steps. You don't want to you
want to take risks, but not too much. You just
want to keep pushing, pushing, pushing, because you know, especially
these guys, it's anybody's game and so it is to
rest full at this point in the competition.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
And they're all doing such a good job.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Okay, getting into the final couple's performance, we have Whitney
and Mark doing their Argentine Tango. We talked about it
a little bit in comparison to to Dylan, but let's
get into what the judges said. So Kerrie in said
she's a big fan of her. Whatever you do, I'll
go watch it. Loved it, nailed it, such an incredible
passionate dance, and she stuck the landing, thank you very much.

(38:25):
I think that's because last week we didn't stick the landing.
That was one of my things too. She did stick
the landing this week. Derek said, the siicadas, the ganchos,
the hooks, all that choreography that we also talked about
for Dylan in spades in this one, and what she
was producing and what she was doing and some of
the actual combinations. A difficulty level of being able to

(38:46):
have the momentum to do those and it's off the
charts and so it was very, very impressive. There was
absolute leading and following. They could not have done this
type of routine and choreography together had they not been
in those positions of leading and following for the momentum
to actually carry them across and do it.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
It was really great, he said.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
It was dripping in silky smooth precision and control and elegance.
It was filled with artistry and musicality and theatrics and
it just had it all. I think we can agree
by now that Mark is always going to bring you
some of the best musicality.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
You're going to see.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
The way that he choreographs, the way that he hears music,
the way that he makes you hear the music is
what's so spectacular because you'll watch Mark's choreography and you go,
oh my god, there was a guitar strum, or there
was a flute, or there was a piano key, or
he added something, because it just emphasizes what the move
is and it's so beautiful.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
That's one of the things that I learned watching him
and Derek. The way that they use music and choreography
is spectacular.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
And this was just another one another one of those
moments where it emphasizes the music, and the music emphasizes
the dance, and it's so beautifully done. Tom said, basically
he was having a moment with his words, but he
basically said, you.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Vote for him because it's true, right. Voting is happening
in the night.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
They're doing this dance, but now they have immunity, which
means they're not dancing again.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
So is it a good thing or is it.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
A negative thing that you don't actually get to dance
again because people aren't seeing you and everyone is putting
their votes somewhere. So I thought that was cute of
Tom to mention. Bruno said it was razor sharp focus.
Sidchuries legwork. Look up Sidcheries if you don't know, she says,
had some of the best legs in the business. Best
dancer or dance of tonight. I couldn't quite decipher what

(40:30):
it was that he said. It was either you're the
best dancer of the night or the best dance of
the night. But I guess that comes back to the
same sentiment. Judges gave it a ten ten ten ten.
I gave it a ten. The only thing I felt
that wasn't necessarily in there that I could have had
more of was the seduction of it all. You know,
they were talking in the package about the way Gabby

(40:50):
and Val did it. And while I think they have
a chemistry, I think for me one of the things
about Argentine tango, Argentine tango for me is just.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Like pure sex.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
It is intimacy and intensity, and it's beautiful, and it's
sexy and sultry, and it's sometimes a power play between
the man and woman, but a playful power play. It
is just absolutely beautiful and it's understated and it doesn't
need to be aggressively sexy, but there's something between them.
I don't know if I actually got that from Whitney.

(41:21):
I don't know, Like I think there was connection, but
I don't actually think it was as sultry as I
would have loved it to have been. Now me as
a dancer, that was one of my jams, right like
this whole other Shanna Number two comes out on the
dance floor and I am sultry and sexy and sassy
and sensual. It is like those parts of me just
come out. And so maybe that's why I value that

(41:44):
so much, especially in an Argentine tango. But I feel
like I wanted just to touch more of that between them.
But listen, on a technical level, on a performance level,
she was still absolutely brilliant, like no notes really on
what she did. Choreography included everything amazing, and I still
gave it a ten. But I wish that I could
have seen just a little bit more sultoriness in it,

(42:07):
like that part of the actress in her coming out,
because she's so animated when it comes to the other things, joyful, playful, goofy.
But I would have loved to have seen just a
little bit more like sex kitten in this one. That's
just my personal opinion though. So before we get into

(42:32):
the celebrity challenge, the relay I think we called it,
there was a judge's package, and I just want to
point out that how beautiful it was to see that
package for you all to get an insight of what
it's like to have to create that chemistry and balance
on a judge's table. It's not just that they put
four people together or three people together and hope that

(42:52):
they say good stuff. You know, they all have to
work together as a team. So, as carry Anne pointed out,
if they're all saying the good things and there's some
stuff left to critique. Someone's got to say it. And
I love that she's really taken on that role. You know,
it's not a villain era thing, but she's like, you
know what, I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
I'm gonna say the things.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
And I remember her saying in an interview was it
the podcast, that sometimes she gets read a different way
because she's a woman saying it and not a man
saying it. Like think we used to love Len for
his grumpiness, but now where we're you know, saying all
sort not where but the online. God, there's been some
hate online this season.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
God, we'll get back to that.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
But you know, I loved that she shared that It's like, well,
not everyone can be nice. Someone's got to call out
the stuff and they have to work together in that.
And you also have to remember that judging, yes, there
is on technical aspects, but dance is also about your perspective,
on the judge's perspective on what they love, what they
were looking at. So at some point they've got to
be looking at the technique and the intention and the

(43:51):
character and the chemistry and the footwork and are there
any mistakes and the hand placements and the like all
sorts of things you have to cover, so at any
given point, one judge may see something and another judge
may not see it. So that's why you have multiple
of them, so they can cross all.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Boxes. I guess tick all boxes.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
And so I think our three judges do an amazing
job at that and I'm incredibly proud of what they
do every week. And they certainly taught me so much
when I was standing on the other side of that
judge's table and I take that information with me back
to Australia and even sitting here, but.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
I really appreciated that we got to have the judge's package.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
So you could all listen to a little bit of
what goes into being a judge, because I think it's
cool to understand that. Okay, we get into this challenge
that we had. Now, there's not that much to be
said about it. Really, there was only one couple that
I felt was close. I will say that I loved
the challenge. I think it's super fun. I think it's
also very challenging. I think it's super challenging for the

(44:50):
people that you have no idea who's going to get
how long it's been since that person danced, and now
you have to make sure that they can and you're
going to have the Now, usually our celebrity beat male
or female is pretty much heavily led by their partner
and spoken to with our little languages and all those
things that we come up with. Now you have another

(45:11):
celebrity out there that is trying to do that job,
and it's tough. So we first we had Apollo and Jordan,
and we had Richard and Elaine. Now I feel Apollo
and Jordan had the stronger job. Apollo, by the way, wow,
like took up frame and I said, Okay, he just
hasn't looks like he hasn't lost it.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
It was amazing, and I thought they did a really
good job.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
I think they had a little slip up or a
timing thing at some point, but nothing too crazy. Richard
and Elaine had some mess ups, and there were some
timing issues, and there were some things.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
It felt a little.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Bit rough for a lane, and so that's one of
the things where it's like, that's not Elaine's fault, but
that is just part of the challenge, you know, And
I do like the challenge.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
I say we do it again.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Maybe there's some variables that we can figure out. I
don't know, but I do like it. I just think
sometimes it's a bit of a do you call.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Them lucky dips? What do you call them?

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Where you dip into a bag and you take out
a random thing and you don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
In Australia we call it a lucky dip potluck? Do
you call it a potluck? Something like that?

Speaker 1 (46:12):
So I think there's some things that might feel inconsistent,
but I also think it's fun and I love seeing
these contestants come back and seeing how great they're doing,
and I thought it was really cool for me.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Definitely.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
The winner was Apollo and Jordan as well. And you
also have to take it to the fact that the
men were having to lead. These women are used to
being led by men that know what they are doing
and have been doing it their whole lives, and they
had to follow these men. So I think we'd have
to take our hats off to everyone in this challenge.
They did a great job. Then we got into Andy
and Caitlin and Dylan and Rumor. I mean, look, no

(46:46):
competition here really on who was going to win it.
I thought Dylan and Rumor had fabulous chemistry of fabulous dancing.
It was really great considering they were both not professional dancers.
Amazing rumor looks like she hasn't lost a beat.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
It was so good. It was so good catching up
with her. And then we had Andy and Caitlin, and
I just wrote, blessed Caitlin.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
She was doing the most at getting Andy around that
floor and having a great time doing it. But you
can see now when Emma's not there and helping with
that language that they've built, and like how you can
see that Emma is talking Andy through the whole routine.
Usually that was Caitlyn's job. So I just want to
point out how big of a thing that was for
Caitlin to go out there and do that, and she

(47:26):
did such a wonderful job.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
When the shirt opened, I died in a great way.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
I absolutely loved it, and I thought it was a
really fun way for us to remember Andy, you know,
I thought it was really really cool. And then we
got into Robert and Sochi and Joey and Alex. Now
this one was close and the people around me were like,
I'm surprised it went that way, and other people were like, no,
that was the right result.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
It really could.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Have gone either way. I think Robert and Sochi were
super cute. He had fabulous action. They both did fabulous
drive action, kicks and flicksess nose overtes. Everything in that
was really really good, so I appreciated it. Joey and
Alex I thought it was cute and fun and.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
It was really clean.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
That it wasn't quite as dynamic, so I probably would
have landed on the same one going for Robert and
Sochi as the winners on that. So that is everybody.
We saw Andy go home. We talked about that earlier.
He had a beautiful run on the show. What a
twenty year anniversary for Dancing with the Stars. I just
have to say once again, like what an honor it

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is to be a part of such an incredible show,
to have.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
This be a part of my life.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
A couple of the things I got asked on the
red carpet was you know how it changed my life
or what's it done for me? And the truth of
the matter is it shaped my life. You know, before
I joined Dancing with the Stars, I genuinely thought I
was going to be a world champion ballroom dance. I
own a dance studio on Wogga Wogga, Australia, and that's
where I was going to live my life, teaching dance
and joining.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
This show completely changed my world.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Somehow I ended up in Hollywood on one of the
greatest shows in television, getting to inspire people dancing a
world that I never thought that I could do. I
found my love of performance and storytelling being here in
Los Angeles. I met Brian, I had my baby.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
I've built my entire life.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
The magic that this show created in my life just
continued through and built my life. And so to be
there and celebrate twenty years with everyone was really special
and emotional. I do have to say before we go
there is while this show has gotten so unbelievably popular
in the last couple of years, and I love that popularity.
I love that we have new fans that were like

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Tom who you know, we have a whole new generation
of people that are coming in and you're getting to
fall in love with this show that we've loved for
so many years, and that's beautiful. It's also and this
is not about the young fans. This is about fans
as a whole. It's complicated, you know, with this rise
in social media presence and everybody talking about the show,
and everyone wanting to have a viral TikTok, and everyone

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wanting to have.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Hot take, as they call them. I find that.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
There has been just a lot of negative feedback and thoughts.
And I've said this before. You know, all opinions are welcome,
but all words are not. And yes, this show is
about public opinion and public vote and we should have
that and y'all should rally for your favorites.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
But the bullying has got to stop.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Man, the spreading hate and attacking people as a person
simply because they're a part of a dance show doing
their absolute best, by the way, something that is incredibly
hard and a vulnerable experience, only to be attacked for it.
And I think this goes across the board for all
the contestants and past contestants. It breaks my heart. I
saw earlier today that my partner that I won with,

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Bobby Bones, said that he sent his mirror ball back
to Dancing with the Stars because of the hate that
he was getting. And I have no desire to get
into the who said whats of all of that, but it.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Does break my heart.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
You know, back when we won we went through some
of that, and I certainly had my journey with how
that wind felt because of the negative feedback that we
would get. But now it seems that everyone is getting
it constantly, and even he's getting more of it now.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
And we won six.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Years ago, and I just think that my message is
to just keep it kind, you know, keep it loving
and nice and respectful. Everyone is doing the absolute best
that they can. You have no idea what it takes
to do their job. No, I'm not saying it's the
hardest job on the planet, but it is a job
that you don't understand. So all you should be doing
is having respect for it, whether you vote for it

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or not, but respect that people are giving it absolutely everything,
their blood, sweat and tears. At this point, no one
is going out. They're trying to do a job. You know,
everyone is going out. They're giving it their absolute heart
and soul, and there is a lot that they don't
have control over. And so what you have control over
is your voice, and what you have control over is

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your vote.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
So use it wisely and use it kindly. I'm sending
you all so much love.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Thank you for tuning into another episode with me and
we will be back for two more episodes. I can't
believe it is almost over. What a ride this has been,
and as always, thanks for hanging and I'll see you
on the next one.