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April 26, 2021 43 mins

Journalisten Alfredo Corchado interviewer et øjenvidne fra Juarez’ kriminelle underverden som siger han ved hvad der sker med de myrdede kvinder. I sagen om Sagrario Gonzales anholder man en mistænkt. Og så igangsætter FBI en hemmelig operation på begge sider af grænsen.

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(00:27):
Many quisettes are hild in Easting since the gang it
glinted the Quinner for Waters. At the beginning, I thought
it was a typical case of a serial killer, but
it appears there was a highly organized group. The fact

(00:47):
that a lawyer is murdered in such execution Visa and
Mam mac full Craft in the Willie On do extremes coming?
If you really want to know the underbelly of what
you need to talk to the Devil's lawyer. Don't tell Marasca.

(01:17):
Children's okay, different smart Dante, So how many things on
affects now A sickle, sir, it's a sudden sma, Dante.
You know I didn't have to stay value and Socilia
telling me I'm Alfredo Cocoa for the tell Us Morning News. Okay,

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the murdle queening over Alfredo has bought em tango meaning
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handle contacting narbo hand not fluked some the games, I

(02:07):
think so or some postible I have first to hunts
Villon on top. The fact that you had an eye
witness was incredibly important. Did I explain victed for his
daughter and afford impostles to a tool poem and postal
events and it takes something like to believe quas yield

(02:36):
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is a Mednde Hans killer ability of putin gang and
the thing that really kind of the biggy start. But
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be sas there's some Italian place here, Alfredo wells in
things silly? What is that cuts hit me a little
to store or schools speci figure or listening. I had
a night witness who alleged that you had visited the
postle have a milving that her first bosh about okay,

(03:26):
this is a queen and adapted Alfredo. I shock it
means the queen on a blue something kiln Norman will
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first time that I might first ago something made effectively short,

(03:49):
probably whatever you were in some less among the visa.
So unless we really get as much evidence as possible,
Alfredo her in Shoki and puts in see rats and
assumely for clar Po Raska McQuinn and iguais spers more

(04:11):
lam and who stole a point from short and helps
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or some hand mood game in a located the owner won,
and that's set upon him on Michoe at times you
feel like an American. Let him herd it's something my
Kingston list or mean this new the hel Vista Save said,

(04:37):
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legs interview on Naco Henla. But then in India. Something
to remember here is that Alfredo and hounded up going
to snoop claim like quin Men parduct not Mead and

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all the vistorm and Mexico's poli providic the l Hanna
provides a Mexico city for a degative from script Totadescuba,
the court, the supervide Manuela unavertn and Dante something for
bits waited into the nether world, and Dante was his

(06:26):
link in Mexico. Finns to Livertna Inverton, the Liga Orphlan
attend Ea in Mexico. There are these two liver a
full standing moon for Lance Drama Eleton, Finnish Men in
Tailor opened up den Verdon a stewart at the organize
criminated network ofvious Mentailor off them. So before Roman skating

(06:53):
Alfredo's killing, you could talk about it openly. Is to
ask alfredos michon do stop back ques obviously finish well
put it So I hadn't Eligo in Anton. I'm certain
that Alfredo was feeling Alfred, don't feel supposed acts because

(07:14):
you're starting to tread Pagna Oscar Nick Ranson killer and
it has like crossover sources into this greyer world. And
I mean and he foresto full stay or that he's
doing when something cause least to billion or scott any
about you look at we'll keep it in the newspaper

(07:37):
everyone you entering and interview Lucina household, especially Narbo Henzat
it will out for Cova men and Newts for the capital,
getting flea for Skately killer ball sources. Alfredo put in
shi seat mid stot gimp forwards for business and more

(07:59):
than a Pokuina on an organist st criminality equis when
first craft imental man and does still lose personal and
slaightly for queen and rapping, but they had supposed her
power floorless still pact the scenes the fifth of putin
facts water or the hell they'll fit land or power

(08:24):
lever ability for tiless Sacrario's history again again for a
whole minute. I mean, Liu, I'm a hope, I'm medical
for him tied up with his father who was he
Steen involve the active you Smith Saddenly, the Monitor and
men then gangs. Sacario first first sweat for the powder

(08:44):
his portuary had tilled malt and the court from who
first spent her Sacario quis lost Timorarius hen for rostaring
equipt some but it could be in the plant insisted
a Jewish book living next sale coup change last man

(09:12):
see slap egg certain problem littvill hansisly we have to
first swanzer lost mess I see it any been summit
berno spiller segments and crowd in India is her powerless

(09:37):
girltis in a sportia not for their six to hell.
God heard a more honitors in abandon matter give a
known for people waban drying the tea to hangue missing
suster or if the flu fimillion hammakin and men really

(10:00):
you he let ran from cranticize me for an hurrycan
familiar and helling thing and if the letters in wars
and more lil Man Lilio Bluna are the good da
sil pointing to my familiar and come in their speech

(10:22):
to mill Hoostom gonna see how you can't us soon
and God luck Marxi and go Collissacario men man Liliu
will lack for until for Lily Baylor, and my name
is da m caelen coyote the income to bay famil

(10:46):
crands until he was saying facts because smaller handy kuminska
men stuffer and slacks powler, he is familiar to lomasti
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egae and popular profold foinet teenagers and men who lilio
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(11:09):
something hands for cruiser grands until say then selling powderqui
for menu lilius for businesses to decriminate milades so for
who knows vote and cop emi Lisa fatty and flawless
familiar in as but for the any calcine iron familiar

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the powder per yelpam vot i if the sacrario's legal
pultfunel pursued them, Manu lilu hin powerless myself men some
pezzled little elder timum instead the blockstar PreO on peter
plus bumps Famakiane behinds pursuit would on her tin event.

(12:01):
Let's say you and say to call for a mile,
I love macral him eagerly from personal What's on in
the studio show or dig yours power. It means for
the pregulting miss Tang who have to each to two yes,

(12:22):
even the mommer say for taken to put in her
moon CD say louis they be a good verde they
have for peneting if the inspected, if the menu Lulu

(12:44):
who miss it vent a power of intibated a little
elder but they had to suspoke not famili until part
healing nera makes it flu blew up of a failure
led the sport. You couldn't come in tango. This brad
scrolls are yous now when they put in it move
staying on a tig and lunar and claire Yett beltil

(13:14):
lemas both in fertural neat and sileam. I'm written to
me steel he sobers. Letts say nikin making low to
come to my playing for Tillma Sen who on your

(13:40):
soul level and plus the hins them tailorb killed him
my Paula Paula in so squat id die my class
tamus as well. Yeah yeah vent and stay plow hint

(14:17):
event we could he saw him a silk first cure
to Lok for his insect case. However, sore blank a
billion them to them cure of fatial fatal and say

(14:48):
more to have a manual Lilio medicine. So or if
to tell part mar who were a little if the
Sacrado woun from Indian but I for powerless about his
spurn of a blue hood who helpful it now sell
him now in the cup fund vehicle decent man who

(15:10):
lilius are by the some coyote come off the contact
Fali Tuba and also in power kinder or some Sacio
also kids in infoider as. Yet I think the program
sometimes win. Then there's the gag Manu Lilu duggle up
for bmvent psluted powerless for confront um started Manni Manu

(15:34):
Lilio kin to know some hills and to tell them
lost Marcos file Valley well not Kelly affinity him Customerville

(15:55):
when powever all the wisdom taking stop her for tell him,
but he stills to and art DISCUSSI Villian know I
mean instead of still because she was my powers her
house lad who said he'll have names Manu Lilu Lloyd
me Villian, I'm sa Gradio's more men when made and
Nargo Handla of a denoty inva h Manu Lilio Fell

(16:51):
Powler and groubnargo handlers to pay more sa gradio on
who filled the powder in Hull after mandy her absolute
inge Well said if the Hins purchased foreign states and
clayon minula who knew informed shot a dailymd thefortune hints
and clans control aguadis form ye good mable pawler mood

(17:15):
and servainly obvious attitude. He said, if the would tell
them a spoil who the food startlement men Powler hal
fest On menu Lilu blue, if the foot here again
and mun tell you I'm sacradios for Sweden and clarns

(17:35):
for clans having for Tillers for fear that's plessed, send
her means handle smooller or grandson and then smaller anaco
form the vegus month powlert inly bveils a tad who

(17:57):
leader if mental men Lilio please seen for claring to
pay or in had to get any new for claring
and postal handle eleen powlers up to tops for headling
for a confront your friend you're steel say for till

(18:19):
Melson who in gang for to us border and man
gang and Stogne first player and bang rupt the night
and steel Let's say mosquite right can mean struggle six

(18:41):
gang man Liliu, visita gang stog Sacario a Powlett's or
Eddie can say for an l whom a passipal and
species set the post tell it was ex added to

(19:05):
dega hotel Willow and killed the stay hotel him hand
schoold taste to Also with the Helikovic, I mean both
school man Lilio, fram stills some water and Hartson student.

(19:26):
You couldn't bine spider, but then God there have ability
at Felo for the Andrew Smoller Wofa helped Munti on
the brasel again but didn't servently process me in Suner book,
the marchest raving sheriff rebuilt this banton push your fear
and a new Manu Lilio men Manu Lilio wasn't bought

(19:49):
Fields and Escario and Harry first I'm going you know,
and then middle school the in stare of a bullets
and so totals firm hand. Also don't put to if
you gangs start a man name andrewlle mentis Bama Barrios

(20:15):
say apple cloud. More on els things Hanatan inst but
up house man pay more story of Friedrunt the mayor
or House meant pay for bullets over then Lucas did
them force at Echo free two or if the more

(20:37):
post stop powerless to Bay met this first mood Mendi
Missanga chip network that the trinity a murder and mint
vehicle after hunting me and Mia pla rimers and powerless
made blend of fullness parion. Yes, so it was the

(20:59):
aunt of a young woman who then until filed a
tendency in oakfinitd I for sweat to Bay to bosically
in a man powerless mobile pockets for certain in the
years and implore yet, my mayor of Clad, you help
me solve this crime. And I think those dreams are born.

(21:23):
It's like your food show some famili in the food.
But for this job there affinity and slatly on a
kin job for business on Alfredo's story or he storing
a Manu lilu swear, I mean there's these chilling manually

(21:54):
you have a clod powder Alfredo's kilo have a tenness,
tells Alfredo man in open mountia nago he mint pool.
Obviously girls are in here for us extreme simply here,

(22:16):
but they have a money pink for phones, and waters
who don't necessarily have the family money can wounded familiarly
he be a benton it frisk or the drug cartel
offers them in hand there and then some must randscape
for the trade the finish. That's like you know, Infernago's

(22:36):
moving underworld. There's no justice systems to be of the
inn typically a death sentence manually you most viosly menu
you hit. So they had moved to man god cloud
and then do men Elacus familia life goodbye. That was

(23:02):
something very remarkable. Elements a little powder flores factor for
students feel sympathy but he needs presumingly at a stern
day and a philoshim petit for then movie it was
shown befin as I. Then they simanually lose daily things,

(23:23):
I mean official for climbing up and handle a lean
hand some sized snow. It brought f murdle sa gradrio
better incident, familiar event non under full and opprently till
stoles to powder on Margo Handlon for Ilvaire France. For

(23:45):
Anakin at a couver tailor mid Network for Tracy School,
scutent p individual cella PVS moviely network tonels up sore
still inside little miss tanged Vegasila grandstandom and certain modes
on it. David according to a Candice scraping pauper quarters

(24:06):
to bay Heli, Candice Abi does some criminal law professional
State University. I was trained by FBI profilers in quad
and the proflier in FBI equatical Virginia is consistent. Some
suger louse their mom in bulk on our ins, but
then's letting against an layer some su for scally former

(24:29):
for su personal of identicate. If the little sport paganic
still it was mendubious. It's a handle up game. Not
at gimme go say if they say, if they say
of sue identity, I first minister house by the villains,
that we could go against le criminality. Candice ye to
Quarres something Winna Collega Robert Wrestler, wrestler and punctioner against

(24:54):
the Hall admits it up started. I FBI, so the
behavioral science unit, the today a criminal Elfair Hannostus the
expert a fact this car and Airna and the first
Triggs Water Candice a wrestler defense Aguadas performed learning and
I'm a King's cigarettes Rocky from mudelan equadis candice a

(25:18):
gang says homicide for game A game goes a little
took so holding mind there was one serials will see
if the elfast for more led smoke pier appear clan

(25:42):
the candicees game ganger says, map and to the cloud
for him at a rate factory and sitting water puss
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on the push a gradio Alia Alexandra, Pezzy Mooster they
were a magna more on the data for pluef Candia
and he too little in a stir post points Scala

(26:08):
aldre her seat where most of these hundreds who demand
more steels close model in the traditional sense egg instantly
it ganning still Candy sells suit some picraft at a
forking Analys who knows universes e fil also well one

(26:34):
of the bodies was who as they were city at
first boater plafono and made her walk with culta but

(26:54):
with er landscape and tell him clear gang dequal after
exposed nude. If if the Ludi in bas element and known,
I miss pray to be certain. First episode felt again
and instill with the mood in spray to being there's

(27:16):
for him he to they're they're disgust of her trust
Manga also fighting or six or eight for bullets Candace
Shokia sit Robert Wrestler. I asked Agent Wrestler about that,
because he has yes and wrestle of a hands tang

(27:38):
over a little finger, then find me perhaps if the
fos little finger the high he like this yes, board
on my nons in her seat. I mean they study
mostly they operate then to permit yesterday the number is

(28:00):
maintingo or the coop meaning I don't think I wanted
anybody watching me do it. Hints slow sentermansca is a
landing paushuku come cit savia, we can see them over
then school a cuvilli, a coustost victim, the vic maties

(28:22):
bula or but an eldermen or who stole phin because
there is a path. When I was saying anti bounion
after not begun to PLoP or loose and their scenes
to offer turning any of us in pointing any finger
to beat up former Debilon Altrica for Hanna dalienpact. Obviously
ann botailed in so they're fell in ust and packed

(28:43):
up Edwig noons in the beginning path finger a million
known as for the yes Pasi the god wills got
in familiar they can just prescribe or their tribe for
for no listen school they know on perhaps I mean
for that Ben Fox something in new tubersity more I

(29:07):
phillihins and alusive in a whole or san td mac
fillmoreguards in us on low I'm loyally as household more
and awaken x ray effect a curtail on this word
divan VICTI daily but DENTI from gel maybe sail just
two open loosed fagianic still on or Egan means donma

(29:30):
wolf give me if it's in Candice or Robert Wrestler
rests some severely experta maningling. If there there's two gang said,
if BI in official, if they're forcing made the formal,
I thin with a mere or but then cat opera
Oba shon blue late that Frank Evans, that lunar again

(29:52):
the passing for order and films the or sacrario for
sweat intil or to to my name's Frank Evans. And
while I was in the FBI, Hello Frank Evans, but
the FBI the vote for pull because happening our coastening
or going to see the community. Do I say, I

(30:13):
mean a fine man nacle if the fostening the black
matter dealing yal pazzle, So what interested the passo FBI
in the hottest cartel Well at that time obviously, but
its point in campus spiller if ill at the smaller
ghosts USA control Nago that was smaller than all kinds cooking,

(30:34):
You folcome on callamans one spelling, He'll put an ends
to the Cornstan file passle urant saying events missed. If
the attracted rule of Anarcohen cataylo To made a extreme
vote for Prescott toy a dense la vote skilled eignment
nationality in the new films move to FBI tip, I

(30:57):
mean cover my cans can min uptill Mexico. This FBI
could be beas and more on the part of my
states for vid and claim lelandis the chinder Cardio quintus
I FBI hut or Ouliville so I think still is

(31:18):
for Hatten. You would say, hey doing fortill Phil getting
mixing case, getting them loads to cruise Grandson for hinder
or slin now not for me shooting ba operation Plaza sweep.
I mean we crossed in with food because of any
len milk vent sars a table toy later still want

(31:41):
a skina criminating technic schools to actually instead of the
fact discus Lee hoops bois or more passive bi space
here and her pass on and the scale of the
indust I'm find if the fastening like slap store. You
know the cartel didn't have cartellan a motto was from
mad taco pool or corns truly shocked the or so

(32:05):
no two fbi again, but there's who's to provide any
Mexico the frank and come to wards either hands more
evaluis ever then pstri blue in Samuel Perval he opted

(32:26):
her no fundamental probma. Many of the crime scenes were
contaminated again still a popular complements, for example the foot
botman in her for class. You know if elite sulivanma
tail culminated tak daily or criminate tig comma still in

(32:47):
a little up there when you find out the place
honest right now, I'm they did tell her in the
first Epicent Detective that was their gam and hole to
a little nono but anything the media, no passion Valgancer, Sorry,

(33:08):
I wouldn't want somebody. It doesn't occur by acts of
an up stop slacks show. I can see the gave
itself fill and he pervist for how many complements Aganist
movement include the kepul bit, same misting if you're Frank,
so it would say aganist and a previst blue pillow

(33:33):
when you don't follow your established protocols. I'm MANI for
you in first Poco so Simon Samson got some in
sad visa trial you undermine everything Frank on sales and
at a blue pillow, theganister and inquis or different hintle

(33:54):
for bulls and eat nose in eplud the trap Frank
Apprandy biscuits to some mills on more permitted Peco the
cat men. You can inity ben Fbi. It will build
a yet bit of locally pull te up clerk quin
part of it. We're selfish. We're trying to see can

(34:14):
we work with anybody today? School weren't socially on the fenders,
nor locate finning, locate gold Michael Grads and last this
week available to you to save it to him we
hadn't mess with a suicide. You can guarantee yes if
the folning and mind the FBI for FBI based to
get infocoming it gi your sakes meaning he specific to

(34:40):
Bill Frank, pull to l Ganty FBI specialist, the Equantico
DVC trainer Robert Restless Mitla in equade tag to till
pud process some candice olive wility six FBI. We were
given seventies six files your sex I have just scaley

(35:03):
six marba the profile in here after gim geek expam
them and say find I'm a king's law enforcement entity
and then f the a fatile to say at the
gam villas of interest that they wanted to explore further
fat is sexy doabilden in hold it said first strike

(35:28):
the palper and Samakoba Minska in one dilno starting put
kimp gimposing minus Gad Frank at the Hendville sing Kolea
in Mexico. It was at that point demon sobody at
Uaha say fbis reporter to say any memos saying them.

(35:56):
Fact is postby FBI supporter p craft up delative Sheriff's
school head and equiptus migatas to tilt sale for the
water sat for the tail in pendent topical clear more
for they distorted what the full extindy reports in ho

(36:16):
after the tentholing, has the thing been wuff wuffa miss
ludus the gang pogang in little of clad mode. We
had evidence that the defense the visas very colo hunter
and aquin the oystems of medical quality posed procedure and

(36:39):
the assumption is it is tailor on incompetience of pull
at the tail sectal. You know you can only be
in competent. Incompetent and gang sinsumed it from our perspective
of both at the equanto, what have a shop for

(37:01):
a plaque in but resolve the femicides frank I fbi
vist process offer. Now we speculated no men, we heard
at that most people shan people and nomen take the hands,
say oh Clark for the extime painted for on the
silver marketings in all time, it's going to come back

(37:25):
to you. You mean the law enforcement of thirties saw
me open smarting, orton smarting. But if you actually mool it,
gig back or clap more pina, I mean that the
active by involved even continue for clad then or ti

(37:46):
us for bulls, I give a blue loosed Alfredo's are,
but if I've felt pie in Hattney, Alfredo Pluto's artists
for a Stooley point from short on Nargo hand and
he thinks and in the mire wouki in Kimber his story,
well he paired up with another colleague. She was a

(38:08):
sathing and colleague or suthin Googles didn't for the caraft
of the year. But if there happening up for FBI
in Mexico one of the law enforcement accounts that ever
clan and some Alfredo include in his story and my
change the man. All you have to do is putting

(38:31):
fancy went stops. Who am ConA steel a discipliness to
go up the hilla other than because for me in
foods are spinning on foods and it was six cicario
as a lime water the pessive effect put in fee
limit anymore in cancer, for he knew that foods its

(38:53):
taste action trophemic. He loosed more do here a few
Elska fields in the control mediat for you and I
hear the local putty coming in east come in. I
hate that quote, but I don't doubt it's true Alfredo

(39:15):
was able to Alfredo if you get the big castle
and then puts his to your please drop the vibe
scooda off or if the force granting factors typical. When
you read that, the tellas morning news first to forces
history understand, but the kimp stored it was huge. Alfredo's

(39:37):
are tiger, but regular people are to trun a fear
senas and Narbo hendlan is for claming bone midnight in Mexico.
For Gatti, the word humlessards to go up. The cards
were first identified potential victims. Start you didn see if
you see a pullet or for us the dowly routina. Start,

(40:01):
Have I swear the logan queen tell them that family
members which the stubble kick that familiar, But says an
impropout father hensity. First, what do you say for cobra
bol first time I was slut seat form for me

(40:23):
a police region they here for claud didn't tell me
if the tuning as a gradio differ clowers of over
extra and he puts his Logbo sells seat Alexandra Kimber
for sleep before you for noon that our courts act tailor.
I mean Sam swells the Asta. Some Alfredo men like

(40:52):
you're storing sluder here they corrupt the Poultic corps accordity
leaning Alfredo hell in me for the capital that Dante's
killer hell for tell Tom I know the soon I
was Visi Pulty in planning. I mean this mill and
my pultice and a battle provider catill Well liked acted

(41:15):
there as influencer. So then my els milscularly bought first
or more Pocuna for supper pisualties first moved our Alfredo.
It pursuit I Martins syndrome in Mexico City or here
if you can fare Atton and like me a fathom
in corrupt the Pulty min Yeah, I mean I'm in

(41:38):
the harder parts in downtown. Come go send Mary Park
and Puss before a keyboard a tragedy play says what's that?
In English, I'm right behind you, called Lee beta e precise.

(42:01):
In September Boulevard, I was being watched, Ye be the
actor Alfredo vscant inventors that an inst come tango Dan
the first time, I s's first thing Dante, I think
the anal and anything, he says, saying your fucked as

(42:23):
aid why he says they're auntie but empty sport. Lallinia's
anti Lallinia apospos era in this house needs to give

(42:45):
a view. But then Alfredo come a sigle min st
for suit of store that Lallinia of ignoralities pillar in
one mid in courts mill in this sta house need
eddiculi the cleaner a wis you know not see Sson,

(43:07):
you know not see see we got us a bag
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