November 10, 2025 • 47 mins
This week, Karen and Chris welcome immigration attorney and host of Brief Recess Michael Foote to talk about ketamine tears, Sopranos on scooters and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Are you leaving?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I you wanna way back home?
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Either way, we want to be there.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give us
time and a termino and gage.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
We want to send you off in style.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We wanna welcome you back home.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Tell us all about it.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
We scared her? Was it fine? Mal porn? Do you
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need to ride? Do you need to ride? Do you
need to ride? Do you need to ride? Do you
need to ride? Do your need need to ride?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
To ride.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
With Karen and Chris? Welcome to Do you need to ride?
This is Chris Fairbanks.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
And this is Karen Calgaraff.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
You sound great.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Last night I went to my favorite murdered live show,
and you sound it. It was it was I could
tell you we're struggling, but it was kind of sultry.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Thank you so much. I was trying the first show
I really lost my voice in It was the opposite
of sultry. And then in the break in between this
that and the second show, they were like, you can
just talk quietly into the mic, which I was like,
the problem is I can't, though I'm one of the
loudest people on the planet.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So it worked. It worked. You were a young Kathleen Turner.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Thank you. I'd take her young, old whichever.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
It was so fun to watch and be reminded of
how cool your audience is and how into every detail
they get into those stories, very emotionally following along.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah right, it was really cool.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It's very very exciting, making me want to be more
genuine on stage. But that'll pass.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, don't do that, No, God forbid. That's my bit,
not your bit.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well, uh carry I don't know if you remember not,
but we currently have a guest, and I know all
podcasts do this.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
This is what narcissism means to me coming on your show,
and it is going to be about.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Sorry, you're just not there.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
For those of you just tuning in, this is Michael
Michael from TikTok H. Thank you for having Chris.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Was going to give you like an official that was better.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I mean I was. I didn't want to do the
clubs and colleges thing that is getting tough.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
It would be.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Fun have the authentic experience you've seen them at clubs
and colleges.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Put your ears together for Michael Foot.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Little defense lawyer.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
And Harol Week, thank you, thank you for having me.
This is really cool.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Michael, you are out in Los Angeles on like a
trip right here in New York City.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm a New Yorker born and raised, grew
up on Long Island.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Really yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
My family's got like really thick Long Island accents. I
kind of have like a little bit of one. If
I have a couple drinks in me, it comes out.
And but yeah, yeah, I went to private school and
my sister didn't, and our accents are slightly different, which is,
you know, the education system in America.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So did she say handbag and parkway pway?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Yeah no, my dad does though, what Yeah, but this
is thanks for having me. I love the I love
a little ride every now, right.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Just drive around.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Yeah, LA will take.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
You anywhere you want to go. I always say.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
That, don't I do you ever deliver? Is that like
such a line? That's such like a pickup line?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I mean sometimes comedically we used to The original premise
was to take pick up comedians at the airport, okay,
or take them off, Yes, and in still.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Getting tune from the airport is such a bit, so yeah,
it's a real choice. Yes, you guys have really committed
to the bit for many years and you and you
did your time on Maple Drive.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Now bail.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Now you can just take me to coffee please. I
don't need to go to the airport, right, thank you?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Just like well, the Burbank Airport's fine, but oh yeah
yeah not LAX's is the forbidden zone now? Yes?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
When you're in the streets and you're interviewing someone then
they get aggressive, do pull out the accent and get
do a tough voice.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I have like an authoritarian voice that I use an
adversarial situation.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Can we hear it just a little bit?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Yeah? I mean you have to pick a fight with
me though, Okay, we have to, I can it.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Just don't like, well, what if I can't do that.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I'd be well, I'm asking you to do it, but
there's nothing unreasonable about my request.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
So I'll do you.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
That tie doesn't match your sleck? And are you an
expert in this field? What credentials do you have that
shows that you know anything about that?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I wanted to be a fashion designer.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
There we go.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
You both caved so fast. The California has softened you
both standard chan It was just my character. I usually
bike around New York and that is my primary mode
of transportation. I'm very serious about cycling, and you do
get in scuffles like I've seen, especially like the bike
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lanes are so packed with like New York City delivery guys. Now, yeah,
but if a car cuts the cyclists off, like it's
a it's a real you see the community come together
real fast. Like I saw this guy get cut off,
and what I do is I do like a timeout,
Like I'll get in front of the car. We'll do
like a five second countdown before they can drive again,
because it's like, what are you going to do? Hit me? Right?
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Like the last person who want to run over as
a lawyer. But I saw this guy take out his
bike clock and punch through the window with it. Just
like clocked this guys through the window of his bike clock.
It was awesome. It was a real rock and roll
back like a U lock.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, like the big yeah yeah yeah, almost have on
this podcast.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, what we weren't that we didn't like threaten that
guy in any way.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Right, I do recall I'm not rolling down the window
and saying yeah, I get it, you're on a bike.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
But it was just for for fun.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Yeah, yeah, I was like a little banter when I'm
on the bike. You were kind of asking for it.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
We didn't threaten his life with the vehicle, but then
he came at us and swung at the car with
his you lock and.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Shot directly into an intersection.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah he wasn't he was.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
That's a strong choice, that is really Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And I think that like La, bicyclists are dealing with
a whole different There's no structure.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
There's no infrastructure. Yeah, I notice.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, I want to go back in time and not
even do that jokingly. Yeah, just I do that more often.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
You've got a lot of regret around this.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Oh yes, I wake up, I'll have a flash of
it and I'll just flinch and audibly sigh because of
things I said on this podcast a dozen years ago.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
I two have now that I've been doing more and
more podcasts, and I've got my own show coming out
in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Plug.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Uh, what was that?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Plug?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
November thirteenth with Michael Wilson alb leg podcast stars on
the new episode New Episodes, Roberts, I do wake up
in a cold sweat when I record. I don't know
what I'm talking about until three in the morning. Yes,
I fly out of bed, like, oh fuck, did I
really say my sister has more of a New York
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accent than I? Yeah? And then I and then I
can't get back to sleep.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Oh I think on Lisa has gotten tons of texts
for me where I was like that whole area that
I was saying, please get rid of. I don't know
why would I even bring that up?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Yeah, yeah, all text CJ is the producer on my show,
and I'll be like, hey, I forgot that I have
a client who literally I was talking about. Oh yeah,
and I can't we can't air anything that.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You have to be your own legal review. After you
performed wear a lot of hats in this podcast? What
made you? Because I knew you from TikTok and was
so over the moon when we got your submission, But like,
did you get that idea independently of like I've got
to take this to a podcast or No.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I did Ketamine and I wasn't sure. I was really
afraid to put myself out there. I would say up
until like twenty twenty two, twenty three, and that was
when I started getting on social media. More was after
I went to Ketemine therapy. I like worked with a therapist,
and I was like a very scared, anxious person. Even
though I was like a litigator and I did a
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lot of public advocacy work in the immigrant communities, I
was still very like scared of a lot of life
and like just you know, making big leaps and jumps.
So I after ketemine therapy. It really helped me sort
of like reframe how I thought about presenting myself to
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the world, or at least like putting myself out there more.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
It's amazing, katamye how and I took it inappropriately?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
What party? What club? It was at the.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
DM Music Festival where I was doing a stand up
in the hot sun midday?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Are you gay? Are you a little? Are you gay?
I am I allowed to ask that.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Of course you are.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
You can stay in a long time. I'm not. But
I you've never kissed a boy?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Oh? I mean in certain circumstances, me too. Yeah, there's
like like my husband, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Occasionally Chris had a very strong older sister, so he
was me too. Right, So.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
She has a stronger acts. Okay, go back, let's delete.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
That's three IM post. She is the only person I'm
afraid I'm on this earth. Is my sister? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Same, I have an older sister. She's very scary.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
How much older is two years older, a much way
more wiser, has her life together.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I think it would be different if my sister and
I were closer. We are six years apart, so there's
almost like she was part parental figure and playing with
me and making me do voices and everything. So it
was not I was like her play thing. But anyway, yes,
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what was I saying?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Can we turn as.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
We went?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
And then.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Prior to that, all right, well.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
This shows how long I've got some time, I got
up to fifteen. Everything I'm KPI focused on metrics based
O ketamine.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yes, yes, I did it three days in a row
in the way you're not supposed to, like snorting it.
I was happy for a month.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Okay, mine was in like a clinical setting with the
insurance provider.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Was yes, the wafers and every yeah, like micro dosing it.
I highly recommend it based on my.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I mean, okay, so I only have done it in
a clinical setting, and I felt like I would never
want to do this at a party because I was
just crying the whole time. I was just weeping it
was like, not something I would want to do at
like hot Dog Sundays and in Silver Lake.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yes, I it would be interesting to see how different
it would be if I wasn't surrounded by Marilyn Manson
figures on stilts and fire a burning man experienced fire jugglers. Yes.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I kind of love that though, because the first time
I went to therapy none of it wasn't drug related.
Really did that work at all? Are you feeling anything
back there?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, I'm feeling okay.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah. The first time I went to therapy, I think
it was like nineteen or twenty, I did the same thing.
I just cried the whole time. The one was like, so,
what what brings you here?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
And I was like, I just need to ball my
fucking eyes and yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I need it. I need someone to witness me cry, yeah,
and not tell me to stop crying. It's great.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yeah, I love crying, yeah all the time. It's so
good for you. I think it helps with like bags
under your eyes, like it helps the fluid release.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It gets through to cortisol.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Portisol. I was gonna I was thinking of the word
for it. Yeahduces belly fat Brought to you by Cortisol
do you need a ride? Yeah. That's the thing about
crying is it really does feel a good slide down
the wall of the shower. Crying is so nice.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
A good self pity. I mean that was like that
kind of like it's not fire. Yeah that kind this
is happening to me? Why?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Why that is the best? I love a cry like that.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I've added to my shower slides. A tear of the curtain.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Oh yeah, it down with you. Usually that means your
own drugs in the in the.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Movies, the examples I'm talking about, I was very high
and falling, grabbing.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
So this was like, yeah, this was like we needed
the life alert because I was crying. Charlotte took a tumble.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yes, my apple watch was saying on you okay, and
I said no and then I yanked down.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Yes, so beautiful, it really is.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
At least you didn't break the shower door like in
that Meg Ryan Alcoholic Mom movie, Remember that she breaks
the shower.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
The only thing you broke was the fallacy of toxic masculine.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's right, every episode, so much for your thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
My neighbors can hear me?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Is living in New York, you do have to wonder
like what the neighbors are thinking. We had this downstairs neighbor, Boghda,
who knew everything that was happening in our apartment at
all times and would text me and be like she
was just sort of like a nosy Polish woman, and
she had a cat that attacked people. It would like
scratch people who would come over to like cleaner. And
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then you would see people walking down the street because
it's a small neighborhood with like clow marks.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
On their arms, and you're like, I know you, I
know where you've been.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I know your struggle, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I feel it.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I've seen what I've seen, what you've seen.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I had an apartment in Hell's Kitchen. I I live
there very briefly, working on.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Karen is going on the record letting she's one of
the dolls. She's all right, club, she's at gym bar
every Sat.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Sunday, not first and foremost, but please protect.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Me Hell's Kitchen.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
What year two thousand and eight or nine? Okay, yeah,
we worked on the second season of The Marriage Draft.
Oh yeah, And I had this hilarious apartment in House
Kitchen that I was subletting, of course, and the walls
were so thin that one morning I got up and
I went into pee, and when I sat down, I
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was just kind of sitting there for a second, and
then I heard the guy in the apartment in the
apartment next to me fart. Oh wow, And I was like,
so everything I do in here he.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Hears and.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
A real echo chamber.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I never see this person in the hallway. Why didn't
they put any insulation in this wall?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
It probably wasn't a wall. It was probably Chris's shower,
Like it wasn't even a wall. Yeah, yeah, like you
and your neighbor.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, separated by a blanket, a sound blanket will be
a second.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Every drive through I get like the church giggles no
matter what, just instant giggle, yes, no matter what the situation.
We could be on our way to our funeral and
I'm giggling.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, it's a lot of pressure something about that situation.
I didn't want to get in trouble with that.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
So much trouble.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
You want to do it right.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
That's his authoritarian voice. That was him, That was his cyclist,
but that he has big cyclist energy.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
If we pull up and he's got those little pants
on and be.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
So mad, I'm going to be thrilled.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Do you wear the outfit like a racer.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
No, I'm usually like in a suit because I'm going
down to court.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And what's your what's the craziest thing that's happened to
you on a bike in New York?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
The thing that's happened to me? Oh? Okay. So I
was biking to court and for some reason I had
to go through the West Village wherever I was. It
was like an emergency injunction and I'm in a suit
and it started raining and it was I think it
must have been a bond hearing because it was a Saturday,
and I turned onto Christopher Street.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
It's the gay street in New York. It's like where
a stonemall happened. It's like where all the gay bars are.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Okay, yeah, I'm not. I'm really I didn't come here
to attorney day, but like you really keep leading me
to water and like, I don't know, we're sitting so close,
but I mean, I'm not. I mean, there is twelve percent.
Twelve I think that's actually part of the it's why
the cars beeping. Sorry, that's great sensing the homosexuality.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
That's the Actually gay's a little too stee We could
do a hand like in Titanic.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Anyway, I was turning onto Christopher Street and the rain
makes the paint on the pavement wet, in the bike lank,
so I just get it out. Went down like a
sack of ship flying. And it was the middle of
the gay Pride pary and it was me lying on
the ground in a suit. And I got up, and
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I got back on my.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Bike and went wold anybody say.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
A bunch of lesbians offered me a shot. They were like,
do you want a shot? And I can neither confirm
nor deny because I did go to court. I can't
confirm or deny if I actually took the shot, but
I think we know. I'll confirm it check the gay
censor on the car.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
If I was a lawyer, I would have spent the
first twenty years having a few drinks before court because
for me, little bit comedy shows.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Yeah, yeah, it's a performance. Yeah, I mean you have
to be compelling. Boring lawyers don't do well in court.
You got to keep the jury engage. They're bored, they're mad,
they're upset about.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Well, how did you get over that anxiety. It was
just the academy.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
The anxiety was more about like public perception, less about court.
I've been in court since, Sure, I graduated law school.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Sure. And I am imagining the video as I've seen
where you're on the street and someone I get aggressive.
What our listeners might not know is you are six
four and look like huge of true handle yourself.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Yes, I'm not scared of a little scuffle. I have
to go. I have to, you know, argue with like
cops and I go to Central lock up.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And that's why you have tattoos of horses, Yes, I do.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
How did you know that.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I saw the horse before you got in the.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Cokay, So I wanted a small tattoo. This is I
wanted something subtle. So I went with it's two horses
bucking and there's a sailor tied to their back feet
repelling down into the ocean and abducting a merman.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah was that a dream you had?
Speaker 4 (19:47):
No? Oh wow, we were just sort of brainstorming me
in the artist and that's kind of what we went with.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So really good.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Actually, Chris, that kind of looks like you was so weird.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
If I if I could grow beard.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, wait you can.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I can't. There's just empty patches. It just doesn't happen.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
If you could. If you did a mustache, that would
be great. Oh he's a mustache with.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
That very full tom selleck.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Many a time, many years I had a mustache. I
some would say I was using it as a crutch.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
If you had all you have a full had a
hair and a mustache, yeah, I would take you far
in life. Yeah yeah, well that's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I gotta stop wearing these hats and bring back the stash.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Come on, come on your pressure. I can confirm Karen's
what kind of car is this? I five five has
plenty a couple holders before it really it really does.
It's got everything you need.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
And if I took my phone case off, I can
charge my phone right there, which is the best.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Okay, wait, charge me?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Oh you don't even have just if you put it
right on that, well, you are living on the edge,
falling off bikes with a case.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
The phone's insured.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
So let's see if it works.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Let's let's see if oh so thin that's the new thing.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Oh yeah, he's a charge of twenty one percent and
climbing that dog.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Face not the gate. Yes, it's on my phone.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
No, I meant I meant to climbing. That is really coincidentally,
your phone is also twenty to twenty two.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Okay, two percent. You actually get you're allowed on the
floats up Pride. That's how that works.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Oh wow, I don't think I've ever had this.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I I definitely haven't do not like it.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
It's great.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Okay, that's not the way you said. It was like, Oh,
I haven't had Those of you who can't see Chris
is drinking his gett.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
He hurt his hand and he's got three fingers that
he can hold it with.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, because he's in a cast, and it just I
have permanent martiny pancakes a really fierce Yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Looks like you're being forced to be fancy.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
It might those fingers might stay that way.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, because of the injury.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yes, but yes, they said surgery wasn't necessarily going to
make that not happen. Also, so I don't do him
that the bones are too small and it's you know.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Part of the lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah. Yeah, and it's going to rain in the future.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, I almost You know that thing where there's two
lanes in the car in the left has stopped and
you don't know why, and so you go around them.
I I did that, and someone was jaywalking and I
slammed on the brakes and very very almost hit them.
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The weirdest calm almost washed over this guy's face like
he wanted. It was very bizarre to me. He was like, yes,
it was. I wanted to pull over and talk to him,
but everything. I have skateboard ramps in my back seat,
and one of them had me, wow.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Would you really stop shore? Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Oh, I slammed on the It's weird.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I could have sworn. We talked about this, but that
the reason I never do that is because there's an actress.
You did that and actually killed.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I was trying.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
It was horrible. I know it was, but I think
it's so sad and like that kind of thing where
in La people do it all the time because everybody's
in such a rush and whatever, and it's like, yeah,
if people are stopped in front of you, just assume
there's a reason.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
The reason I really thought they were turning left, I
felt so dumb. It was very scary, but that's crazy.
I went lobby, hobby hobby right after I preyed on it.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
And made sure there's more abortions didn't take place.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I did not know. I mean I went there for supplies. Michael,
are you into Halloween?
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Of course? Yeah. And then I'm going to be a
clownfish because it's like, because it's I'm all about nvenience.
It's the easiest costume. You just get like long orange balloons,
blow them up, tape them to whatever you're wearing already
that day, and then I've got a clownfish hat and
it's sort of like you're in the reeds, like a
scene in the c Yes, it's just like a really
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low and then it's nice because like you don't you're
not in like a skanky outfit. That's really you're freezing
trying to get home in New York, right it's forty
degrees out and you're getting into a number. I can
just pop the balloons. It's like it's fun.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
And you take that off and now now straight to
cour You.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Have to be able to go just barge into court
at any moment.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Not necessary.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Let me deflate these.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Excuse I must interest like who are you?
Speaker 4 (24:46):
What happened on? Like Elsbeth Tassione, Like it would be
like a good wife subplot of like like Alicia Florak
is working in the case and Elsbeth bursts in and
our Halloween costume.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I actually was thinking about that because has as a
lifelong lever and ingester of law and Order. Oh yeah,
do you ever watch it and like relate to their representation?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
I love legal shows. Oh my god, I love watching
all those shows. I don't you know, like doctors will
say they're watching Er and it may drives them crazy,
or they're watching the Pit and it's not accurate. That
doesn't drive That doesn't bother me at all because how
it's like it's a TV show.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
You don't need to get into weeds.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yeah, Like, I would rather watch this in real life.
This lawsuit took four fucking years. Yeah, and slid down
the wall in my shoperire. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I'm sure firemen right now are not distracted by the
fact that the firemen in the show nine to one
one are now in space.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
That's not true.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
It's been four episodes.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
To no show is insane.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
It's very much into it.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I am into it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Someone please explain.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
The only thing I find out about the show is Melissa,
my cost texts me the premise that each episode. I'd
never seen it, but I'll get a text in it?
What is it every Monday night? Yeah, every Monday night,
I get a text and it's after working. It's like
a tornado hit a woman driving a bus full babies,
and babies are stuck in the tree.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
And it starts innocent like that, but I mean a
piece of satellite hit this guy. His way moo went
out of control. They were going in circles. He had
the manufacture lines in the road was sandbags you could
finally stop the car, and then a piece of satellite
embedded into his skull.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
It's gory.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
It gets, it gets really really really, it's a gory show.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
And what is it? Robblow? Who is it?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
No, it's Angela Bassett. It's doing a like impersonation of
herself if she was on a soap opera. They zoom
in on her face. Yes, yeah, her chin is always quivering.
Is this a Tyler Perry product?
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Yea?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Is it for real?
Speaker 4 (27:02):
No, it's it's a It is a It is of
the same universe.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
It is.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
And Jennifer love Hewitt is like a dispatcher in it,
and she can cry anything. She cries every episode does
so They're like, okay, three Jennifer will cry there. I'm
not exaggerating every single episode, damn, but I think my
brother has he.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Never has heard.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
You can watch her eyebags they get concave below.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yeh, it's just all tears. Beautiful.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
And are her sleeves passed her hands or they in
a normal adult place?
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Now?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Oh, that's more of a ghost whisper thing.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
She was doing.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I'm glad I checked.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I've also been lost whisper it is very good.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I guess I'm on a real Hewett kick.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Do you love her?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
You like her music? Showed that one hit and the
nineties it's called bare Naked and she was wearing like
a turtleneck in the music video.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Irony it was.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
It was really a choice. Yeah, it was a star choice.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I got to get into our music. What can't you do?
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I don't know if you want to get mm hmm
it was. There was one song for a reason I
think was like what we sort of ascertained?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
But yeah, I think she was one of those she
had it all. Every time she was on TV, everybody
showed up to watch her do whatever. Yes, so when
that happens, they're like.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
What do you want to what do you want next?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
What do you want you? Can you want to go
to Broadway?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
We'll make it happen to get a broadwayand up anything
but that.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
No, can you sing?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
No, that's okay, we'll make it happen.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
That's fine, We'll make it happen.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
We'll get someone to sing for you. Jennifer Love Hewitt
lived in to Luca Lake and so a couple of
times I saw her when I lived over there. Yeah,
it was that was a good solid star sighting.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
That is a good star sighting.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I one time saw Miley Cyrus on her bike with
her friends.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Oh hell yeah. And it's definitely punched a lock through
a window. She is absolutely someone who's punched a fucking
you lock through someone's window. You know it.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
She is the greatest that she is And she's.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
In on the joke of Miley Cyrus. That's what I
love about her. Like she like Kathy Griffin was ragging
on her and she would embrace it back in the day.
That's what I love.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
She would love it.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
She really loves to.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Did she you see her? Give Joe Rogan on Joe
Rogan's show, So Much Ship. No, this guy is literally
on my ass.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
He's not happy.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Look at this.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Oh my god, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
She is riding?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
What you're on drugs? There you go? There you go?
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Oh this is like I always have trouble finding This
is like a Mario card that.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Here's the thing. We're gonna end up in the same
red light up there. What's right?
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Where are you even going?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
You fool?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
It's what people. That's like when people drive on the
five you get mad you don't fill this gap, and.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
It's like, and it's ten feet.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
It's ten feet, And that's the ten foot gap that
when I first started driving, I kept rear ending people
because I was like, yeah, let's get out there.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
And then they were were trying to fill it. And
then he's gonna take that as a challenge. Oh, he's
gonna get erratic. He's gonna lose lose some of his
loose tools.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
This is actually the show's premise is that Karen and
Chris take people out fucking insight road bridge.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
We'll try to get into either fist Fight World or
Chicken Chicken.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Sir.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I can't wait till the light turns red, and we're
just gonna pull right up next to him.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Hey, what's up, Karen's driving like a New York City cabby.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
New York guys, did you.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Ever see the New York Cab. There was a like
a little coffee table book that they made, I think
in the two thousand and it said the Cab Driver Wisdom,
and it was just quotes that this one guy collected
from all his cab drivers. And this is my favorite.
He goes bike messengers. They searched for death was the quote.
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And we would always like, because there's a bunch of
good ones, but that one we would like flip through
and then just be like this, guys.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Search for death.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
They search for death.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
They do. They really are on borrow time.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Like I said, those videos in the beginning of YouTube.
That's one of the first YouTube videos I watched was
a bike messenger with a camera on him on like
the real thin tense speed.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Bike lanes now, but like back then it was every man. Yeah,
that was Mayor Bloomberg, who.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Correct me if I'm wrong though, the bike Like, if
you're if we were going in this direction on the
bike lane would be on the opposite side going towards No.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
That's not true. That's miss information. I don't know, So
that's I have to paper the right.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Then there's a separate bike lane.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Now, no, that is also InCred Nope, who told you this?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I experienced it when I was there. There's several times
where maybe it was a one way street.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Were high on Kedemy.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
There was so many times where a bike turning left
or a car turning left is not expecting a bike
to be in a lane there, And I saw so
many near collisions. It must have been one way, yes, yes, great.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
I The one way is that it depends what side
of the street it's going to be on, and it's inconsistent. Okay,
So if the ground is kind of like green painted,
there is going to be a bike flying by in
any seconds. So if you're trying to take this right
here and there was green, you would have to yield
to the cyclists. So like New New York City, drivers
don't know that right and they just beef it right
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into the bike lane and people go flying.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I saw so many near deaths. I was just on it.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
I'm pretty bullish, Like I would like if we were
driving like this and I was biking next to and
used to it to pull over, I would probably get
in front of you, yeah, and keep going, and you
would get behind me and you would have to just suffer.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
And then I'd start honking like that.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Guy, and I would be like this is great, like
I'm living my life. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
But also being a pedestrian with those new bike lanes
in New York City is pretty wild.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
People go down like a sack of ship, like they're
really well people, well, because it's one of these uh
here's a guy on a fucking scooter. My sister in
law is a nurse and she says, don't ever get
on one of those scooters. She sees so many people
come into the er, like the bird scooters, like completely paralyzed,
neck down from just by because those scooters go so fast.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Did you not know how guy on the scooter was
like a heavy from the Sopranos.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Yes, yeah it was. It was Walnutsty. It was in
the full track suit. Yeah. Actually maybe that was his costume, right, Yeah,
that's a good costume.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
We got to keep in mind that it's Halloween.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Wait, which one had glasses because your glasses you could
definitely be one the Sopranos guys.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah, we did have glasses.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Oh, I think it was the grand dad.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Oh yeah, didn't really like him.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
That's kind of the look I'm going for. I'm glad
I'm accomplishing it.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I met uh, what's her name, Adifalco. Oh, she's great,
She's really lovely.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
She's such a good actress.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
She's such a great actress.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Fucking Nurse Jackie. She acted so much like my mom
who was also I was just like, what did you do?
Did you just go?
Speaker 4 (34:33):
That show is so good.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Just being like always knowing best and be like, well,
you can do what I'm telling you, but I guess
you're just going to do that all right? Fine? Like
so accurate.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
That is so accurate. I love I love a brass
in New York City.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, I bet nurses watch Nurse Jackie.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Yes, oh yeah, that's like the nurses show about medical
the medical industry.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
It's by nurses. Foreig nurse.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Yes, yeah, yeah, it's nurse generated content. I love nurser.
My friend Kirsten is a nurse and we call her
nurse and she she really doesn't like that. No one
likes to be reduced down to their profession, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Not unless you can make good content.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Unless yeah, unless yea nurse. Someone take that handle.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah, someone called me Rex did my second coffee?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Excuse me?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yes, and I would have.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Been like, sir, I said, is that a slur?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
They said Rex, and I'm like, yeah, I don't know
about that. I know about something about Rex though. Rex
is a man who gets shipped done.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah it is. It's kind of a hot handyman name.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Yeah it is. It's very Yeah, guys name Rex are
like the kind of guy that calls me Mike, like
it's it's a blue collar like over the age of
like fifty five sixty New Yorker. He's here, he's fixing
my like faucet. Yeah, and he calls me Mike.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
He calls you Mike.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Iras is a name that needs to be embroidered on
a work share.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Yes, yes, yeah, and then years from now we'll be
sold in a vintage store in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
This is the only bus in LA. It seems you
thought I've seen the whole time. Oh really, there's no
public transport. Yeah, yeah, isn't it. And it's it's kind
of just part of the deal.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
You don't like it, then you can hack it here off.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
When I very first moved, I was staying with my
friend Laura and her roommate Jerry, who I didn't know.
Girl Jerry. She's a piano teacher. She was in the
band Red Cross. She's like a piano. I was going
to say impresario, but it's like a child prodigy.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Oh prodigy.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Anyhow, she was the coolest. So she and I were
at the house by ourselves, and I just like come
down and had a couple of meetings. So I was like, oh,
I have a meaning in Culver City. And I just
started looking up how to take the bus and looking
at the bust thing and Drey goes, wait what And
I'm like, I have to take the bus to Culver City.
(37:13):
And she's like, no, wait, that's pull. I'll drive you.
And I'm like, you don't have to.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Why is she Share?
Speaker 4 (37:19):
She was like that.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
She talked and she was so mad across. But she
was so mad because she's like, you can't take the
bus and I'm like, well, it's so generous of you
and I'm not asking you this favor. But she it
was like she would.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Not have the bull that is that is Share in Mermaids,
that is her the character. Yes, she couldn't find her
ass with both hands. I love I say that all
the time. You can find her as with both hands.
That is such a read.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah, I'm sorry, but had a bust and that's just
a visual thing. I shouldn't even bring it up. But
the logo on that license plate frame very much looks
like a Nazi wing.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Yeah it does, with like kind of a god. Is
this like a dog with it's right underneath the motors rating.
I don't want to read it because them will I
know we'll have someone will swap them.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Or how about I just say the phone number.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yes, because they put their personal phone number six.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Any complaints and it's I do.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
It's a biographic design.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
I had the elusive female uper driver on my way
around la earlier today.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Was she Salt of the Earth.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
She was playing Best of eighties. It was so good.
It was Patty Smith the Warrior, so good a heartache
bang bang.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Fucking Patty. I've never seen Patty Smith fighting with Howard
Stern about how she basically was like you have given
me more promo and like helped my career and you
just didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Good for her yet him gather that bitch so.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Good where she's like we were good friends. You said
you believed in me, and you never helped me.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
I was love when people just come for because coming
for Howard Stern is going to be better for your
career and any puffy bullshit conversation we're gonna have with him,
just going in there and being like, these are the
things you have done, are like things that like we've
got to really like hammer this out is always so
it's such a better compelling interview.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
And also if any if you can do it with anybody,
that guy better be up for it, because like you're
out here keep saying whatever the fuck you want to
anybody while you have strippers strip on the radio.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Yeah, Like people will come at me, like on the internet,
and I'm like, yeah, come at me, like I am
asking for it, Like I am out here talking about
crazy shit my clients are doing. I'm taking you to
court with me. I'm talking about like and I'm a litigator.
I'm trained to fight like that is literally I went
to school for it. Yeah, so like, yeah, come at me.
(40:06):
I've been called every fucking gay slur on the internet
and it's all in my DMS. I don't care. Bring it, like,
fight me, not the fourteen year olds.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yeah, for real, what I love is I DM Michael.
I was in I was on the road.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
It was so funny.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
I already bought this jacket and I had just got
sent a sizzle reel of my show. Yeah, and because
because it's the first show we've done where it's like
starts as video all video, and so that we had that,
they had this thing they were trying to cut together,
and so I had to give notes on it and
it was just like, it's so hard to cut anything,
(40:44):
and this is so good and I loved it so much.
And then I was just like, I just feel closer
to Michael than we actually technically are, but I don't care.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
I just DMed him on TikTok and I was like,
this is like Eve inappropriate, but You're greatest. I loved it.
There was no pause.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Oh no, I'm on.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
There are those bubbles came up immediately.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
They ever do that little implant in your brain from
black Mirror where you can see the Internet in your eyes,
I will do it, like I love it. The Internet
has only made my life better, Like it is so fun.
I have so many friends I've made on there. People
message me like that all the time, and I'm like,
I love the ship. People think like, oh, he's not
gonna respond. People will be like, hey, my uncle just
(41:31):
got picked up by ice. This is where I am,
and I'll go. I did this one. I did a
meet and greet. I called it a meet and greet
during one of the protests where if you got arrested
out a protest, I would come bond you out for free.
And it was a Michael Foot meet and greet. And
I went down to the courthouse and I was there.
(41:51):
I said I'd be there nine to five Saturday and
Sunday during the note Kings protests and if you get arrested,
I'll bond you out. And it was so much fun.
It was like I was in I got to like, oh,
this person's on a risk of the community. Oh they'll
post bail, they're not a flight risk. It was just
like Churn and burn. It was like me and I
did a fair number. It was not it was it
(42:12):
wasn't as many as I expected. We thought there were
going to be a lot more arrests, Like the hype
on the internet was a lot more than what actually
ended up. And uh, the NYPD I think after the
George Floyd protests, I've I've at least seen as a
very privileged white man in a suit, a little bit
of a shift from my very biased perspective and how
(42:36):
they're not just like en mass beating people, whereas during
George Floyd, I think they just like showed about a
Pride parade at one point, and we're like arresting people
and like hit. I mean, it was really really bad.
And I'm not saying it's good now, and I'm definitely
not saying that like what they're doing is totally fine.
I'm sure it's just it wasn't. I I just haven't
(42:59):
seen too much people are Yeah. I mean you saw
to protest. Karen and I we were sending stuff on TikTok,
like the people who were standing up to ice in
New York City, Like the New Yorkers were really fucking wild.
It was great.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
They don't have the majority, and they certainly don't have
their sliding into this kind of like that's people can't
be behind it anymore because they're like, well, now you're
fucking me over, and now I'm seeing the bigger picture exactly,
Like if people are snapping out of it, and I
think a very real way, or at least some people.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
Yeah. I mean immigrants are in all of our lives
in so many ways. Yeah, all wonderful.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
And there's the people who are like, I didn't think
the panther was going to eat my face, and now
your husband's being deported, where it's like, yeah, you're not safe. Yeah,
no one's safe.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
Yeah, oh that couldn't happen to me, not like that.
And it's like, oh no, it is your cousin, it
is yeah, it's your parent. There's it's really real.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
I don't know, Michael, what do you if you are
witnessing the kidnapping of people? What realistically should you do?
What are the most important things other than.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
I will tell you you, yeah, should not touch officers,
like you will be quickly identified as someone who's assaulting
an officer, whether or not that is true, or whether it.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Is even if they're grabbing you. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Yeah. Passive resistance is usually what I advise people. If
there is a situation, intervene in whatever a way that's
comfortable for you and like your stature, so like I'm
a six foot five dude, so it's like a little
bit different for me.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
I'm sorry I called you six four.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
No, okay, okay, I actually I usually lie in Sam
six four because six' five is. Obscene it. IS i
was like a hagrid ogre like kind of knuckle dragging troglodyte.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Situation someone who's by five is just like single tear of,
like how dare? You?
Speaker 4 (44:57):
IS i think short guys Are i'm so so attracted
to short?
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Mats are?
Speaker 4 (45:02):
You? Really they're SO i love because IT'S i will
never know what it's like to be that. Size i'll
never know what it's like to like fit in a.
CAR i just like there's something so like beautifully unobtainable
about short.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Man also the, swagger you, Know, yeah they are trying
to they believe they must make up for.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
It it's funny the WAY i looked at it my whole.
CHILDHOOD i didn't know until dating apps that being under
six feet tall was a bad. Thing. YEAH i really
always looked at, it like IF i saw someone with
the size thirteen foot when they go, snowboarding their toes must,
drag it must be hard to get a good. Edge
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To ride.
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With Karen and Chris? Welcome to Do you need to ride?
This is Chris Fairbanks.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
And this is Karen Calgaraff.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
You sound great.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Last night I went to my favorite murdered live show,
and you sound it. It was it was I could
tell you we're struggling, but it was kind of sultry.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Thank you so much. I was trying the first show
I really lost my voice in It was the opposite
of sultry. And then in the break in between this
that and the second show, they were like, you can
just talk quietly into the mic, which I was like,
the problem is I can't, though I'm one of the
loudest people on the planet.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So it worked. It worked. You were a young Kathleen Turner.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Thank you. I'd take her young, old whichever.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
It was so fun to watch and be reminded of
how cool your audience is and how into every detail
they get into those stories, very emotionally following along.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah right, it was really cool.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It's very very exciting, making me want to be more
genuine on stage. But that'll pass.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, don't do that, No, God forbid. That's my bit,
not your bit.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well, uh carry I don't know if you remember not,
but we currently have a guest, and I know all
podcasts do this.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
This is what narcissism means to me coming on your show,
and it is going to be about.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Sorry, you're just not there.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
For those of you just tuning in, this is Michael
Michael from TikTok H. Thank you for having Chris.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Was going to give you like an official that was better.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I mean I was. I didn't want to do the
clubs and colleges thing that is getting tough.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
It would be.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Fun have the authentic experience you've seen them at clubs
and colleges.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Put your ears together for Michael Foot.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Little defense lawyer.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
And Harol Week, thank you, thank you for having me.
This is really cool.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Michael, you are out in Los Angeles on like a
trip right here in New York City.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm a New Yorker born and raised, grew
up on Long Island.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Really yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
My family's got like really thick Long Island accents. I
kind of have like a little bit of one. If
I have a couple drinks in me, it comes out.
And but yeah, yeah, I went to private school and
my sister didn't, and our accents are slightly different, which is,
you know, the education system in America.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So did she say handbag and parkway pway?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Yeah no, my dad does though, what Yeah, but this
is thanks for having me. I love the I love
a little ride every now, right.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Just drive around.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Yeah, LA will take.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
You anywhere you want to go. I always say.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
That, don't I do you ever deliver? Is that like
such a line? That's such like a pickup line?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I mean sometimes comedically we used to The original premise
was to take pick up comedians at the airport, okay,
or take them off, Yes, and in still.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Getting tune from the airport is such a bit, so yeah,
it's a real choice. Yes, you guys have really committed
to the bit for many years and you and you
did your time on Maple Drive.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Now bail.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Now you can just take me to coffee please. I
don't need to go to the airport, right, thank you?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Just like well, the Burbank Airport's fine, but oh yeah
yeah not LAX's is the forbidden zone now? Yes?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
When you're in the streets and you're interviewing someone then
they get aggressive, do pull out the accent and get
do a tough voice.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I have like an authoritarian voice that I use an
adversarial situation.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Can we hear it just a little bit?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Yeah? I mean you have to pick a fight with
me though, Okay, we have to, I can it.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Just don't like, well, what if I can't do that.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I'd be well, I'm asking you to do it, but
there's nothing unreasonable about my request.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
So I'll do you.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
That tie doesn't match your sleck? And are you an
expert in this field? What credentials do you have that
shows that you know anything about that?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I wanted to be a fashion designer.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
There we go.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
You both caved so fast. The California has softened you
both standard chan It was just my character. I usually
bike around New York and that is my primary mode
of transportation. I'm very serious about cycling, and you do
get in scuffles like I've seen, especially like the bike
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lanes are so packed with like New York City delivery guys. Now, yeah,
but if a car cuts the cyclists off, like it's
a it's a real you see the community come together
real fast. Like I saw this guy get cut off,
and what I do is I do like a timeout,
Like I'll get in front of the car. We'll do
like a five second countdown before they can drive again,
because it's like, what are you going to do? Hit me? Right?
(06:08):
Like the last person who want to run over as
a lawyer. But I saw this guy take out his
bike clock and punch through the window with it. Just
like clocked this guys through the window of his bike clock.
It was awesome. It was a real rock and roll
back like a U lock.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, like the big yeah yeah yeah, almost have on
this podcast.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, what we weren't that we didn't like threaten that
guy in any way.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Right, I do recall I'm not rolling down the window
and saying yeah, I get it, you're on a bike.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
But it was just for for fun.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Yeah, yeah, I was like a little banter when I'm
on the bike. You were kind of asking for it.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
We didn't threaten his life with the vehicle, but then
he came at us and swung at the car with
his you lock and.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Shot directly into an intersection.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah he wasn't he was.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
That's a strong choice, that is really Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And I think that like La, bicyclists are dealing with
a whole different There's no structure.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
There's no infrastructure. Yeah, I notice.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, I want to go back in time and not
even do that jokingly. Yeah, just I do that more often.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
You've got a lot of regret around this.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Oh yes, I wake up, I'll have a flash of
it and I'll just flinch and audibly sigh because of
things I said on this podcast a dozen years ago.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
I two have now that I've been doing more and
more podcasts, and I've got my own show coming out
in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Plug.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Uh, what was that?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Plug?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
November thirteenth with Michael Wilson alb leg podcast stars on
the new episode New Episodes, Roberts, I do wake up
in a cold sweat when I record. I don't know
what I'm talking about until three in the morning. Yes,
I fly out of bed, like, oh fuck, did I
really say my sister has more of a New York
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accent than I? Yeah? And then I and then I
can't get back to sleep.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Oh I think on Lisa has gotten tons of texts
for me where I was like that whole area that
I was saying, please get rid of. I don't know
why would I even bring that up?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Yeah, yeah, all text CJ is the producer on my show,
and I'll be like, hey, I forgot that I have
a client who literally I was talking about. Oh yeah,
and I can't we can't air anything that.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You have to be your own legal review. After you
performed wear a lot of hats in this podcast? What
made you? Because I knew you from TikTok and was
so over the moon when we got your submission, But like,
did you get that idea independently of like I've got
to take this to a podcast or No.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I did Ketamine and I wasn't sure. I was really
afraid to put myself out there. I would say up
until like twenty twenty two, twenty three, and that was
when I started getting on social media. More was after
I went to Ketemine therapy. I like worked with a therapist,
and I was like a very scared, anxious person. Even
though I was like a litigator and I did a
(09:16):
lot of public advocacy work in the immigrant communities, I
was still very like scared of a lot of life
and like just you know, making big leaps and jumps.
So I after ketemine therapy. It really helped me sort
of like reframe how I thought about presenting myself to
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the world, or at least like putting myself out there more.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
It's amazing, katamye how and I took it inappropriately?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
What party? What club? It was at the.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
DM Music Festival where I was doing a stand up
in the hot sun midday?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Are you gay? Are you a little? Are you gay?
I am I allowed to ask that.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Of course you are.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
You can stay in a long time. I'm not. But
I you've never kissed a boy?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Oh? I mean in certain circumstances, me too. Yeah, there's
like like my husband, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Occasionally Chris had a very strong older sister, so he
was me too. Right, So.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
She has a stronger acts. Okay, go back, let's delete.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
That's three IM post. She is the only person I'm
afraid I'm on this earth. Is my sister? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Same, I have an older sister. She's very scary.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
How much older is two years older, a much way
more wiser, has her life together.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I think it would be different if my sister and
I were closer. We are six years apart, so there's
almost like she was part parental figure and playing with
me and making me do voices and everything. So it
was not I was like her play thing. But anyway, yes,
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what was I saying?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Can we turn as.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
We went?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
And then.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Prior to that, all right, well.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
This shows how long I've got some time, I got
up to fifteen. Everything I'm KPI focused on metrics based
O ketamine.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yes, yes, I did it three days in a row
in the way you're not supposed to, like snorting it.
I was happy for a month.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Okay, mine was in like a clinical setting with the
insurance provider.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Was yes, the wafers and every yeah, like micro dosing it.
I highly recommend it based on my.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I mean, okay, so I only have done it in
a clinical setting, and I felt like I would never
want to do this at a party because I was
just crying the whole time. I was just weeping it
was like, not something I would want to do at
like hot Dog Sundays and in Silver Lake.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yes, I it would be interesting to see how different
it would be if I wasn't surrounded by Marilyn Manson
figures on stilts and fire a burning man experienced fire jugglers. Yes.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I kind of love that though, because the first time
I went to therapy none of it wasn't drug related.
Really did that work at all? Are you feeling anything
back there?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, I'm feeling okay.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah. The first time I went to therapy, I think
it was like nineteen or twenty, I did the same thing.
I just cried the whole time. The one was like, so,
what what brings you here?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
And I was like, I just need to ball my
fucking eyes and yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I need it. I need someone to witness me cry, yeah,
and not tell me to stop crying. It's great.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yeah, I love crying, yeah all the time. It's so
good for you. I think it helps with like bags
under your eyes, like it helps the fluid release.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It gets through to cortisol.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Portisol. I was gonna I was thinking of the word
for it. Yeahduces belly fat Brought to you by Cortisol
do you need a ride? Yeah. That's the thing about
crying is it really does feel a good slide down
the wall of the shower. Crying is so nice.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
A good self pity. I mean that was like that
kind of like it's not fire. Yeah that kind this
is happening to me? Why?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Why that is the best? I love a cry like that.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I've added to my shower slides. A tear of the curtain.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Oh yeah, it down with you. Usually that means your
own drugs in the in the.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Movies, the examples I'm talking about, I was very high
and falling, grabbing.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
So this was like, yeah, this was like we needed
the life alert because I was crying. Charlotte took a tumble.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yes, my apple watch was saying on you okay, and
I said no and then I yanked down.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Yes, so beautiful, it really is.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
At least you didn't break the shower door like in
that Meg Ryan Alcoholic Mom movie, Remember that she breaks
the shower.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
The only thing you broke was the fallacy of toxic masculine.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's right, every episode, so much for your thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
My neighbors can hear me?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Is living in New York, you do have to wonder
like what the neighbors are thinking. We had this downstairs neighbor, Boghda,
who knew everything that was happening in our apartment at
all times and would text me and be like she
was just sort of like a nosy Polish woman, and
she had a cat that attacked people. It would like
scratch people who would come over to like cleaner. And
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then you would see people walking down the street because
it's a small neighborhood with like clow marks.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
On their arms, and you're like, I know you, I
know where you've been.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I know your struggle, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I feel it.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I've seen what I've seen, what you've seen.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I had an apartment in Hell's Kitchen. I I live
there very briefly, working on.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Karen is going on the record letting she's one of
the dolls. She's all right, club, she's at gym bar
every Sat.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Sunday, not first and foremost, but please protect.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Me Hell's Kitchen.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
What year two thousand and eight or nine? Okay, yeah,
we worked on the second season of The Marriage Draft.
Oh yeah, And I had this hilarious apartment in House
Kitchen that I was subletting, of course, and the walls
were so thin that one morning I got up and
I went into pee, and when I sat down, I
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was just kind of sitting there for a second, and
then I heard the guy in the apartment in the
apartment next to me fart. Oh wow, And I was like,
so everything I do in here he.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Hears and.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
A real echo chamber.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I never see this person in the hallway. Why didn't
they put any insulation in this wall?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
It probably wasn't a wall. It was probably Chris's shower,
Like it wasn't even a wall. Yeah, yeah, like you
and your neighbor.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, separated by a blanket, a sound blanket will be
a second.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Every drive through I get like the church giggles no
matter what, just instant giggle, yes, no matter what the situation.
We could be on our way to our funeral and
I'm giggling.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, it's a lot of pressure something about that situation.
I didn't want to get in trouble with that.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
So much trouble.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
You want to do it right.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
That's his authoritarian voice. That was him, That was his cyclist,
but that he has big cyclist energy.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
If we pull up and he's got those little pants
on and be.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
So mad, I'm going to be thrilled.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Do you wear the outfit like a racer.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
No, I'm usually like in a suit because I'm going
down to court.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And what's your what's the craziest thing that's happened to
you on a bike in New York?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
The thing that's happened to me? Oh? Okay. So I
was biking to court and for some reason I had
to go through the West Village wherever I was. It
was like an emergency injunction and I'm in a suit
and it started raining and it was I think it
must have been a bond hearing because it was a Saturday,
and I turned onto Christopher Street.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
It's the gay street in New York. It's like where
a stonemall happened. It's like where all the gay bars are.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Okay, yeah, I'm not. I'm really I didn't come here
to attorney day, but like you really keep leading me
to water and like, I don't know, we're sitting so close,
but I mean, I'm not. I mean, there is twelve percent.
Twelve I think that's actually part of the it's why
the cars beeping. Sorry, that's great sensing the homosexuality.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
That's the Actually gay's a little too stee We could
do a hand like in Titanic.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Anyway, I was turning onto Christopher Street and the rain
makes the paint on the pavement wet, in the bike lank,
so I just get it out. Went down like a
sack of ship flying. And it was the middle of
the gay Pride pary and it was me lying on
the ground in a suit. And I got up, and
(18:08):
I got back on my.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Bike and went wold anybody say.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
A bunch of lesbians offered me a shot. They were like,
do you want a shot? And I can neither confirm
nor deny because I did go to court. I can't
confirm or deny if I actually took the shot, but
I think we know. I'll confirm it check the gay
censor on the car.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
If I was a lawyer, I would have spent the
first twenty years having a few drinks before court because
for me, little bit comedy shows.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Yeah, yeah, it's a performance. Yeah, I mean you have
to be compelling. Boring lawyers don't do well in court.
You got to keep the jury engage. They're bored, they're mad,
they're upset about.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Well, how did you get over that anxiety. It was
just the academy.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
The anxiety was more about like public perception, less about court.
I've been in court since, Sure, I graduated law school.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Sure. And I am imagining the video as I've seen
where you're on the street and someone I get aggressive.
What our listeners might not know is you are six
four and look like huge of true handle yourself.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Yes, I'm not scared of a little scuffle. I have
to go. I have to, you know, argue with like
cops and I go to Central lock up.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And that's why you have tattoos of horses, Yes, I do.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
How did you know that.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I saw the horse before you got in the.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Cokay, So I wanted a small tattoo. This is I
wanted something subtle. So I went with it's two horses
bucking and there's a sailor tied to their back feet
repelling down into the ocean and abducting a merman.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah was that a dream you had?
Speaker 4 (19:47):
No? Oh wow, we were just sort of brainstorming me
in the artist and that's kind of what we went with.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So really good.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Actually, Chris, that kind of looks like you was so weird.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
If I if I could grow beard.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, wait you can.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I can't. There's just empty patches. It just doesn't happen.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
If you could. If you did a mustache, that would
be great. Oh he's a mustache with.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
That very full tom selleck.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Many a time, many years I had a mustache. I
some would say I was using it as a crutch.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
If you had all you have a full had a
hair and a mustache, yeah, I would take you far
in life. Yeah yeah, well that's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I gotta stop wearing these hats and bring back the stash.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Come on, come on your pressure. I can confirm Karen's
what kind of car is this? I five five has
plenty a couple holders before it really it really does.
It's got everything you need.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
And if I took my phone case off, I can
charge my phone right there, which is the best.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Okay, wait, charge me?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Oh you don't even have just if you put it
right on that, well, you are living on the edge,
falling off bikes with a case.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
The phone's insured.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
So let's see if it works.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Let's let's see if oh so thin that's the new thing.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Oh yeah, he's a charge of twenty one percent and
climbing that dog.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Face not the gate. Yes, it's on my phone.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
No, I meant I meant to climbing. That is really coincidentally,
your phone is also twenty to twenty two.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Okay, two percent. You actually get you're allowed on the
floats up Pride. That's how that works.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Oh wow, I don't think I've ever had this.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I I definitely haven't do not like it.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
It's great.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Okay, that's not the way you said. It was like, Oh,
I haven't had Those of you who can't see Chris
is drinking his gett.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
He hurt his hand and he's got three fingers that
he can hold it with.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, because he's in a cast, and it just I
have permanent martiny pancakes a really fierce Yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Looks like you're being forced to be fancy.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
It might those fingers might stay that way.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, because of the injury.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yes, but yes, they said surgery wasn't necessarily going to
make that not happen. Also, so I don't do him
that the bones are too small and it's you know.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Part of the lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah. Yeah, and it's going to rain in the future.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, I almost You know that thing where there's two
lanes in the car in the left has stopped and
you don't know why, and so you go around them.
I I did that, and someone was jaywalking and I
slammed on the brakes and very very almost hit them.
(22:41):
The weirdest calm almost washed over this guy's face like
he wanted. It was very bizarre to me. He was like, yes,
it was. I wanted to pull over and talk to him,
but everything. I have skateboard ramps in my back seat,
and one of them had me, wow.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Would you really stop shore? Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Oh, I slammed on the It's weird.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I could have sworn. We talked about this, but that
the reason I never do that is because there's an actress.
You did that and actually killed.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I was trying.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
It was horrible. I know it was, but I think
it's so sad and like that kind of thing where
in La people do it all the time because everybody's
in such a rush and whatever, and it's like, yeah,
if people are stopped in front of you, just assume
there's a reason.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
The reason I really thought they were turning left, I
felt so dumb. It was very scary, but that's crazy.
I went lobby, hobby hobby right after I preyed on it.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
And made sure there's more abortions didn't take place.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I did not know. I mean I went there for supplies. Michael,
are you into Halloween?
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Of course? Yeah. And then I'm going to be a
clownfish because it's like, because it's I'm all about nvenience.
It's the easiest costume. You just get like long orange balloons,
blow them up, tape them to whatever you're wearing already
that day, and then I've got a clownfish hat and
it's sort of like you're in the reeds, like a
scene in the c Yes, it's just like a really
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low and then it's nice because like you don't you're
not in like a skanky outfit. That's really you're freezing
trying to get home in New York, right it's forty
degrees out and you're getting into a number. I can
just pop the balloons. It's like it's fun.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
And you take that off and now now straight to
cour You.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Have to be able to go just barge into court
at any moment.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Not necessary.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Let me deflate these.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Excuse I must interest like who are you?
Speaker 4 (24:46):
What happened on? Like Elsbeth Tassione, Like it would be
like a good wife subplot of like like Alicia Florak
is working in the case and Elsbeth bursts in and
our Halloween costume.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I actually was thinking about that because has as a
lifelong lever and ingester of law and Order. Oh yeah,
do you ever watch it and like relate to their representation?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
I love legal shows. Oh my god, I love watching
all those shows. I don't you know, like doctors will
say they're watching Er and it may drives them crazy,
or they're watching the Pit and it's not accurate. That
doesn't drive That doesn't bother me at all because how
it's like it's a TV show.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
You don't need to get into weeds.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yeah, Like, I would rather watch this in real life.
This lawsuit took four fucking years. Yeah, and slid down
the wall in my shoperire. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I'm sure firemen right now are not distracted by the
fact that the firemen in the show nine to one
one are now in space.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
That's not true.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
It's been four episodes.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
To no show is insane.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
It's very much into it.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I am into it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Someone please explain.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
The only thing I find out about the show is Melissa,
my cost texts me the premise that each episode. I'd
never seen it, but I'll get a text in it?
What is it every Monday night? Yeah, every Monday night,
I get a text and it's after working. It's like
a tornado hit a woman driving a bus full babies,
and babies are stuck in the tree.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
And it starts innocent like that, but I mean a
piece of satellite hit this guy. His way moo went
out of control. They were going in circles. He had
the manufacture lines in the road was sandbags you could
finally stop the car, and then a piece of satellite
embedded into his skull.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
It's gory.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
It gets, it gets really really really, it's a gory show.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
And what is it? Robblow? Who is it?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
No, it's Angela Bassett. It's doing a like impersonation of
herself if she was on a soap opera. They zoom
in on her face. Yes, yeah, her chin is always quivering.
Is this a Tyler Perry product?
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Yea?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Is it for real?
Speaker 4 (27:02):
No, it's it's a It is a It is of
the same universe.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
It is.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
And Jennifer love Hewitt is like a dispatcher in it,
and she can cry anything. She cries every episode does
so They're like, okay, three Jennifer will cry there. I'm
not exaggerating every single episode, damn, but I think my
brother has he.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Never has heard.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
You can watch her eyebags they get concave below.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yeh, it's just all tears. Beautiful.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
And are her sleeves passed her hands or they in
a normal adult place?
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Now?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Oh, that's more of a ghost whisper thing.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
She was doing.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I'm glad I checked.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I've also been lost whisper it is very good.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I guess I'm on a real Hewett kick.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Do you love her?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
You like her music? Showed that one hit and the
nineties it's called bare Naked and she was wearing like
a turtleneck in the music video.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Irony it was.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
It was really a choice. Yeah, it was a star choice.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I got to get into our music. What can't you do?
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I don't know if you want to get mm hmm
it was. There was one song for a reason I
think was like what we sort of ascertained?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
But yeah, I think she was one of those she
had it all. Every time she was on TV, everybody
showed up to watch her do whatever. Yes, so when
that happens, they're like.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
What do you want to what do you want next?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
What do you want you? Can you want to go
to Broadway?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
We'll make it happen to get a broadwayand up anything
but that.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
No, can you sing?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
No, that's okay, we'll make it happen.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
That's fine, We'll make it happen.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
We'll get someone to sing for you. Jennifer Love Hewitt
lived in to Luca Lake and so a couple of
times I saw her when I lived over there. Yeah,
it was that was a good solid star sighting.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
That is a good star sighting.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I one time saw Miley Cyrus on her bike with
her friends.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Oh hell yeah. And it's definitely punched a lock through
a window. She is absolutely someone who's punched a fucking
you lock through someone's window. You know it.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
She is the greatest that she is And she's.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
In on the joke of Miley Cyrus. That's what I
love about her. Like she like Kathy Griffin was ragging
on her and she would embrace it back in the day.
That's what I love.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
She would love it.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
She really loves to.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Did she you see her? Give Joe Rogan on Joe
Rogan's show, So Much Ship. No, this guy is literally
on my ass.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
He's not happy.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Look at this.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Oh my god, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
She is riding?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
What you're on drugs? There you go? There you go?
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Oh this is like I always have trouble finding This
is like a Mario card that.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Here's the thing. We're gonna end up in the same
red light up there. What's right?
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Where are you even going?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
You fool?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
It's what people. That's like when people drive on the
five you get mad you don't fill this gap, and.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
It's like, and it's ten feet.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
It's ten feet, And that's the ten foot gap that
when I first started driving, I kept rear ending people
because I was like, yeah, let's get out there.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
And then they were were trying to fill it. And
then he's gonna take that as a challenge. Oh, he's
gonna get erratic. He's gonna lose lose some of his
loose tools.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
This is actually the show's premise is that Karen and
Chris take people out fucking insight road bridge.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
We'll try to get into either fist Fight World or
Chicken Chicken.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Sir.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I can't wait till the light turns red, and we're
just gonna pull right up next to him.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Hey, what's up, Karen's driving like a New York City cabby.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
New York guys, did you.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Ever see the New York Cab. There was a like
a little coffee table book that they made, I think
in the two thousand and it said the Cab Driver Wisdom,
and it was just quotes that this one guy collected
from all his cab drivers. And this is my favorite.
He goes bike messengers. They searched for death was the quote.
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And we would always like, because there's a bunch of
good ones, but that one we would like flip through
and then just be like this, guys.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Search for death.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
They search for death.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
They do. They really are on borrow time.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Like I said, those videos in the beginning of YouTube.
That's one of the first YouTube videos I watched was
a bike messenger with a camera on him on like
the real thin tense speed.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Bike lanes now, but like back then it was every man. Yeah,
that was Mayor Bloomberg, who.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Correct me if I'm wrong though, the bike Like, if
you're if we were going in this direction on the
bike lane would be on the opposite side going towards No.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
That's not true. That's miss information. I don't know, So
that's I have to paper the right.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Then there's a separate bike lane.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Now, no, that is also InCred Nope, who told you this?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I experienced it when I was there. There's several times
where maybe it was a one way street.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Were high on Kedemy.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
There was so many times where a bike turning left
or a car turning left is not expecting a bike
to be in a lane there, And I saw so
many near collisions. It must have been one way, yes, yes, great.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
I The one way is that it depends what side
of the street it's going to be on, and it's inconsistent. Okay,
So if the ground is kind of like green painted,
there is going to be a bike flying by in
any seconds. So if you're trying to take this right
here and there was green, you would have to yield
to the cyclists. So like New New York City, drivers
don't know that right and they just beef it right
(32:49):
into the bike lane and people go flying.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I saw so many near deaths. I was just on it.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
I'm pretty bullish, Like I would like if we were
driving like this and I was biking next to and
used to it to pull over, I would probably get
in front of you, yeah, and keep going, and you
would get behind me and you would have to just suffer.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
And then I'd start honking like that.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Guy, and I would be like this is great, like
I'm living my life. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
But also being a pedestrian with those new bike lanes
in New York City is pretty wild.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
People go down like a sack of ship, like they're
really well people, well, because it's one of these uh
here's a guy on a fucking scooter. My sister in
law is a nurse and she says, don't ever get
on one of those scooters. She sees so many people
come into the er, like the bird scooters, like completely paralyzed,
neck down from just by because those scooters go so fast.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Did you not know how guy on the scooter was
like a heavy from the Sopranos.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Yes, yeah it was. It was Walnutsty. It was in
the full track suit. Yeah. Actually maybe that was his costume, right, Yeah,
that's a good costume.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
We got to keep in mind that it's Halloween.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Wait, which one had glasses because your glasses you could
definitely be one the Sopranos guys.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah, we did have glasses.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Oh, I think it was the grand dad.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Oh yeah, didn't really like him.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
That's kind of the look I'm going for. I'm glad
I'm accomplishing it.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I met uh, what's her name, Adifalco. Oh, she's great,
She's really lovely.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
She's such a good actress.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
She's such a great actress.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Fucking Nurse Jackie. She acted so much like my mom
who was also I was just like, what did you do?
Did you just go?
Speaker 4 (34:33):
That show is so good.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Just being like always knowing best and be like, well,
you can do what I'm telling you, but I guess
you're just going to do that all right? Fine? Like
so accurate.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
That is so accurate. I love I love a brass
in New York City.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, I bet nurses watch Nurse Jackie.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Yes, oh yeah, that's like the nurses show about medical
the medical industry.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
It's by nurses. Foreig nurse.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Yes, yeah, yeah, it's nurse generated content. I love nurser.
My friend Kirsten is a nurse and we call her
nurse and she she really doesn't like that. No one
likes to be reduced down to their profession, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Not unless you can make good content.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Unless yeah, unless yea nurse. Someone take that handle.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah, someone called me Rex did my second coffee?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Excuse me?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yes, and I would have.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Been like, sir, I said, is that a slur?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
They said Rex, and I'm like, yeah, I don't know
about that. I know about something about Rex though. Rex
is a man who gets shipped done.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah it is. It's kind of a hot handyman name.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Yeah it is. It's very Yeah, guys name Rex are
like the kind of guy that calls me Mike, like
it's it's a blue collar like over the age of
like fifty five sixty New Yorker. He's here, he's fixing
my like faucet. Yeah, and he calls me Mike.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
He calls you Mike.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Iras is a name that needs to be embroidered on
a work share.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Yes, yes, yeah, and then years from now we'll be
sold in a vintage store in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
This is the only bus in LA. It seems you
thought I've seen the whole time. Oh really, there's no
public transport. Yeah, yeah, isn't it. And it's it's kind
of just part of the deal.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
You don't like it, then you can hack it here off.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
When I very first moved, I was staying with my
friend Laura and her roommate Jerry, who I didn't know.
Girl Jerry. She's a piano teacher. She was in the
band Red Cross. She's like a piano. I was going
to say impresario, but it's like a child prodigy.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Oh prodigy.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Anyhow, she was the coolest. So she and I were
at the house by ourselves, and I just like come
down and had a couple of meetings. So I was like, oh,
I have a meaning in Culver City. And I just
started looking up how to take the bus and looking
at the bust thing and Drey goes, wait what And
I'm like, I have to take the bus to Culver City.
(37:13):
And she's like, no, wait, that's pull. I'll drive you.
And I'm like, you don't have to.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Why is she Share?
Speaker 4 (37:19):
She was like that.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
She talked and she was so mad across. But she
was so mad because she's like, you can't take the
bus and I'm like, well, it's so generous of you
and I'm not asking you this favor. But she it
was like she would.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Not have the bull that is that is Share in Mermaids,
that is her the character. Yes, she couldn't find her
ass with both hands. I love I say that all
the time. You can find her as with both hands.
That is such a read.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah, I'm sorry, but had a bust and that's just
a visual thing. I shouldn't even bring it up. But
the logo on that license plate frame very much looks
like a Nazi wing.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Yeah it does, with like kind of a god. Is
this like a dog with it's right underneath the motors rating.
I don't want to read it because them will I
know we'll have someone will swap them.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Or how about I just say the phone number.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yes, because they put their personal phone number six.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Any complaints and it's I do.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
It's a biographic design.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
I had the elusive female uper driver on my way
around la earlier today.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Was she Salt of the Earth.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
She was playing Best of eighties. It was so good.
It was Patty Smith the Warrior, so good a heartache
bang bang.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Fucking Patty. I've never seen Patty Smith fighting with Howard
Stern about how she basically was like you have given
me more promo and like helped my career and you
just didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Good for her yet him gather that bitch so.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Good where she's like we were good friends. You said
you believed in me, and you never helped me.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
I was love when people just come for because coming
for Howard Stern is going to be better for your
career and any puffy bullshit conversation we're gonna have with him,
just going in there and being like, these are the
things you have done, are like things that like we've
got to really like hammer this out is always so
it's such a better compelling interview.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
And also if any if you can do it with anybody,
that guy better be up for it, because like you're
out here keep saying whatever the fuck you want to
anybody while you have strippers strip on the radio.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Yeah, Like people will come at me, like on the internet,
and I'm like, yeah, come at me, like I am
asking for it, Like I am out here talking about
crazy shit my clients are doing. I'm taking you to
court with me. I'm talking about like and I'm a litigator.
I'm trained to fight like that is literally I went
to school for it. Yeah, so like, yeah, come at me.
(40:06):
I've been called every fucking gay slur on the internet
and it's all in my DMS. I don't care. Bring it, like,
fight me, not the fourteen year olds.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yeah, for real, what I love is I DM Michael.
I was in I was on the road.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
It was so funny.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
I already bought this jacket and I had just got
sent a sizzle reel of my show. Yeah, and because
because it's the first show we've done where it's like
starts as video all video, and so that we had that,
they had this thing they were trying to cut together,
and so I had to give notes on it and
it was just like, it's so hard to cut anything,
(40:44):
and this is so good and I loved it so much.
And then I was just like, I just feel closer
to Michael than we actually technically are, but I don't care.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
I just DMed him on TikTok and I was like,
this is like Eve inappropriate, but You're greatest. I loved it.
There was no pause.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Oh no, I'm on.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
There are those bubbles came up immediately.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
They ever do that little implant in your brain from
black Mirror where you can see the Internet in your eyes,
I will do it, like I love it. The Internet
has only made my life better, Like it is so fun.
I have so many friends I've made on there. People
message me like that all the time, and I'm like,
I love the ship. People think like, oh, he's not
gonna respond. People will be like, hey, my uncle just
(41:31):
got picked up by ice. This is where I am,
and I'll go. I did this one. I did a
meet and greet. I called it a meet and greet
during one of the protests where if you got arrested
out a protest, I would come bond you out for free.
And it was a Michael Foot meet and greet. And
I went down to the courthouse and I was there.
(41:51):
I said I'd be there nine to five Saturday and
Sunday during the note Kings protests and if you get arrested,
I'll bond you out. And it was so much fun.
It was like I was in I got to like, oh,
this person's on a risk of the community. Oh they'll
post bail, they're not a flight risk. It was just
like Churn and burn. It was like me and I
did a fair number. It was not it was it
(42:12):
wasn't as many as I expected. We thought there were
going to be a lot more arrests, Like the hype
on the internet was a lot more than what actually
ended up. And uh, the NYPD I think after the
George Floyd protests, I've I've at least seen as a
very privileged white man in a suit, a little bit
of a shift from my very biased perspective and how
(42:36):
they're not just like en mass beating people, whereas during
George Floyd, I think they just like showed about a
Pride parade at one point, and we're like arresting people
and like hit. I mean, it was really really bad.
And I'm not saying it's good now, and I'm definitely
not saying that like what they're doing is totally fine.
I'm sure it's just it wasn't. I I just haven't
(42:59):
seen too much people are Yeah. I mean you saw
to protest. Karen and I we were sending stuff on TikTok,
like the people who were standing up to ice in
New York City, Like the New Yorkers were really fucking wild.
It was great.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
They don't have the majority, and they certainly don't have
their sliding into this kind of like that's people can't
be behind it anymore because they're like, well, now you're
fucking me over, and now I'm seeing the bigger picture exactly,
Like if people are snapping out of it, and I
think a very real way, or at least some people.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
Yeah. I mean immigrants are in all of our lives
in so many ways. Yeah, all wonderful.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
And there's the people who are like, I didn't think
the panther was going to eat my face, and now
your husband's being deported, where it's like, yeah, you're not safe. Yeah,
no one's safe.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
Yeah, oh that couldn't happen to me, not like that.
And it's like, oh no, it is your cousin, it
is yeah, it's your parent. There's it's really real.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
I don't know, Michael, what do you if you are
witnessing the kidnapping of people? What realistically should you do?
What are the most important things other than.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
I will tell you you, yeah, should not touch officers,
like you will be quickly identified as someone who's assaulting
an officer, whether or not that is true, or whether it.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Is even if they're grabbing you. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Yeah. Passive resistance is usually what I advise people. If
there is a situation, intervene in whatever a way that's
comfortable for you and like your stature, so like I'm
a six foot five dude, so it's like a little
bit different for me.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
I'm sorry I called you six four.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
No, okay, okay, I actually I usually lie in Sam
six four because six' five is. Obscene it. IS i
was like a hagrid ogre like kind of knuckle dragging troglodyte.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Situation someone who's by five is just like single tear of,
like how dare? You?
Speaker 4 (44:57):
IS i think short guys Are i'm so so attracted
to short?
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Mats are?
Speaker 4 (45:02):
You? Really they're SO i love because IT'S i will
never know what it's like to be that. Size i'll
never know what it's like to like fit in a.
CAR i just like there's something so like beautifully unobtainable
about short.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Man also the, swagger you, Know, yeah they are trying
to they believe they must make up for.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
It it's funny the WAY i looked at it my whole.
CHILDHOOD i didn't know until dating apps that being under
six feet tall was a bad. Thing. YEAH i really
always looked at, it like IF i saw someone with
the size thirteen foot when they go, snowboarding their toes must,
drag it must be hard to get a good. Edge
(45:42):
and WHEN i watch the THINGS i enjoy, SKATEBOARDING i
like A compact five.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
Nine, YEAH i also think like short met IF i
were with a short, man he would just absolutely worship.
Me you. KNOW i think there's something so beautiful about,
it right, RIGHT i would be treated so fucking. Right
AND i of course married a six foot two tall man.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Who doesn't need it from.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
You it doesn't give a shit about every once in
a while something is just three inches.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
Higher it's. True, YEAH i. DO i open all.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
The pickle jars in the, House give it to.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
Me give it To i'll take care of. It and
then WHEN i, do he, says you loosen to it every.
Sausagear come, on come, on we're a little bit of.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Credit we're about to roll into our second. Hour do
you want to do like a roll into a second?
Episode just do your part order and we can do
a quick.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
Like you, know maybe if we want to do a
transition of likenstay on like and then we can pur
close and then.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Restart, yeah when we come. Back the rest of what
you can do if you WATCH I Apprehend, someone that's.
Right you got to a.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Cliffhanger that's a really good.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
One you've been listening.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
To do you need to?
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Ride do you want?
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Ar this has been an Exactly Right.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Production our senior producer Is Annalise.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
Nelson mixed By Edson.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Choy our talent booker Is Patrick.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Coottner theme song By Karen. Kilgarriff artwork By Chris.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Fairbanks follow the show On, Instagram, twitter And facebook at
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Speaker 1 (47:27):
Podcast for more, information go to exactly rightmedia dot.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
Com thank, You, Oh you're. Welcome
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Chris Fairbanks
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